Caylee Anthony 09-14-08 A.M thread

[desmom]

Casey did not have sense enough to know since she was parked in someone elses(business) parking lot that they would have it towed.
that there would be a record of when it was first noticed there and for how long.
Not sure what she really thought except that she was not thinking
about what would happen since of course George was not coming to take care of it.
You can just tell so many untruths before they come back to hit you in the butt!!!


IMO, because it was not parked in front of the door, she belived it would not be towed.

IIRC, she said she left a note on the car. I wonder if the Amscot employee or tow truck driver saw the note.

[barskin&co.]

I don't believe the story about the 2 guys. I think Casey was low on gas, pulled into the lot and let the car run until it ran out of gas. IMO, it was her plan to abandon the car because of the smell. JMO.

I agree about abandoning the car because of the smell. Obviously, if she was just out of gas, she would have brought some gas, and got going. I hadn't thought about her running the car until it ran out, though. Good theory!

[Shellberry]

Yeah- "what she planned" is one big mystery. I think it might have included murdering her parents, but she had a hard time, because getting rid of two adults is a lot more difficult than one little toddler. :(

omg-you know what I was thinking..
maybe she planned on sneaking in the house one day doing something to them, then going on a little vacation.
coming home and finding all of her family 'gone'
she'd get the house, money, cars....

I wonder if we'd be following a different story right now if cindy didnt call 911 when she did
imo/jmo

[Unperson1984]

Also, TonE wanted to deal with the car and Casey told him her dad would take care of it.

Is it possible TonE let Casey use his car when he visited his family for a few days? I think he was gone within a few days from the time she left her car in the parking lot.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Yeah- "what she planned" is one big mystery. I think it might have included murdering her parents, but she had a hard time, because getting rid of two adults is a lot more difficult than one little toddler. :(

Hi barskin doll.

I have a theory on what Casey was planning but it's just a theory. I think she was going to gather money and leave the state and never have to explain anything to anyone jus lose contact with parents except for every now and then and make excuses why Caylee can't talk. People in another state would not know Casey had a child if she didn't want them to know. If she did tell them she had a child once but lost her. *Scott Peterson story to Amber Frey* Same thing with Casey if things hadn't fell apart. Just my theory and opinion on what Casey was planning.

[luvinlife]

I believe Casey was trying to "set the scene". The jogger that was murdered in Blanchard Park also left her purse in her car. Coincidence...i'm not buyin it. As for Cindy seein that car twice a day..why didn't she stop and see if anyone had seen Caylee then? None of this makes sense to me. jmo



I am behind so sorry if this was addressed. I don't think Cindy saw the car I think she meant why park it where she could have seen the car. I am sure she has said this in another interview. I don't have a link so imo

[rosejustrose]

If she was really out of gas, the 2 guys would have gotten her some, even if she had no money on her...

If there were two guys she most likely lied and said the car broke down and her father was coming to help her. They would probably buy that and move on, if there were two guys and I don't think there were. IMO.

[OneUp]

I don't think she thought that far when it came to the car.

If Caylee was in the trunk, and if the car smelled, she may have left it in the parking lot hoping it would air out ... Probably thinking that if it wasn't in the street, it wouldn't get towed.

But, if the car did smell that bad, and 2 guys helped her push it, why didn't they smell anything. They would have been pushing it from the trunk end. And speaking of the 2 guys ... why haven't they surfaced?

IMOThe interview of the man @ the towyard ( Birch?) stated that when George opened the door the smell came out in a wave ( paraphrased) and overtook them. I'm guessing the trunk was fairly airtight to the outside, but plenty of airflow between the trunk and the car. In my old car, the backseat folded down, so the air would be "shared" inside the trunk/car. If the trunk seal was tight, it's possible the smell outside, esp. as early as when it was abandoned, was faint.
First, I think they probably would have come forward by now, secondly I don't think it was out of gas when she pulled in, and third if she needed to she could push it herself...it's not a really big car. I'm only 5'2" and I've pushed my old GMC Jimmy alone on a level surface that turned into a slight Uphill. It wasn't easy, but I managed. Once it got rolling it wasn't bad, and on the level it went easy. I just had to rock it to get it rolling. It was a '92 and had a very heavy all metal body, not the plastic type panels on so many new cars.
JMO.

[Kathlb]

I heard (not here) that someone said GA was interviewed this morning and he said he believes that the protesters are being paid. :eek: Is he having out of body experiences??? If you don't agree with and buy the lies the Anthony's tell, you have to be on someone's payroll??? This is getting nuts. If anyone knows of a link to the interview, I'd love to see it. MOO

[impartial]

Is it possible TonE let Casey use his car when he visited his family for a few days? I think he was gone within a few days from the time she left her car in the parking lot.


Wasn't the car at the parking lot for only a few days as well?

I know the date the car was first noticed to be at the lot was the 27th ... I don't recall what date it was towed.

IMO

[st777jo]

I don't think Casey was out of gas. She knew the gauge didn't work so used it as an excuse to leaving it there. Then when she called Tone, it would be so Casey could use the poor me in telling Tone the car was broke and her daddy would pick it up and get it fixed.

Did that make sense? lol

[Rebel Rouzer]

I heard (not here) that someone said GA was interviewed this morning and he said he believes that the protesters are being paid. :eek: Is he having out of body experiences??? If you don't agree with and buy the lies the Anthony's tell, you have to be on someone's payroll??? This is getting nuts. If anyone knows of a link to the interview, I'd love to see it. MOO

IF true. I'm not shocked. I should be but i'm not. Some of the things they say make no sense. IMO
I thought they had a criminal defense attorney to speak on their behalf and run their PR for them?

[OneUp]

Van Der Slooting"
Perfect!
That sums it.

Anyone notice the more cases you follow, you start to see many common traits among the killers and their enablers. All of which are covered by the defenses, famous..... You can't possibly judge these people.........everybody grieves differently.
Or is it just me?
imoNope, it's not just you. There are predictable patterns to cover the "norms" of Criminal behavior...profilers for example, work on utilizing and developing them all the time.
There will always be an anomaly or two, but we humans are terribly predictable. I guess no one wants to admit how boring and alike we are!:D
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

I don't think Casey was out of gas. She knew the gauge didn't work so used it as an excuse to leaving it there. Then when she called Tone, it would be so Casey could use the poor me in telling Tone the car was broke and her daddy would pick it up and get it fixed.

Did that make sense? lol

About as much sense as anything else Casey has done or said. LOL.

[st777jo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathlb View Post
I heard (not here) that someone said GA was interviewed this morning and he said he believes that the protesters are being paid. Is he having out of body experiences??? If you don't agree with and buy the lies the Anthony's tell, you have to be on someone's payroll??? This is getting nuts. If anyone knows of a link to the interview, I'd love to see it. MOO



I think the only ones making money off this, is the Anthony's. jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

I have wondered how she got around after she abandoned the decomp wagon at the amscot.

I believe she borrowed Amy's car. I just read that or heard that in a news report. i thought? :shrug:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Nope, it's not just you. There are predictable patterns to cover the "norms" of Criminal behavior...profilers for example, work on utilizing and developing them all the time.
There will always be an anomaly or two, but we humans are terribly predictable. I guess no one wants to admit how boring and alike we are!:D
JMO.

lol So true.

Good to see ya Oneup

[kitty1182]

If there were two guys she most likely lied and said the car broke down and her father was coming to help her. They would probably buy that and move on, if there were two guys and I don't think there were. IMO.

I don't think so either..She backed into that space all by her self...

[Unperson1984]

Wasn't the car at the parking lot for only a few days as well?

I know the date the car was first noticed to be at the lot was the 27th ... I don't recall what date it was towed.

IMO

The 30th.

There are a lot of unanswered questions about where Casey stayed and how she got around while TonE was out of town. We know he didn't trust her enough to let her stay at his house.

[rosejustrose]

I believe she borrowed Amy's car. I just read that or heard that in a news report. i thought? :shrug:

She borrowed Amy's car in July for a week while Amy was on vacation. IIRC, it was the day Amy came home and Casey picked her up at the airport that Cindy was finally able to pinpoint Casey's location and go get her. IIRC, that was also when the first 911 calls started so it would be about July 15. JMO.

[kakax]

I believe she borrowed Amy's car. I just read that or heard that in a news report. i thought? :shrug:

Wasn't Amy only gone a week? The car was towed at the end of June...

[Rebel Rouzer]

I knew she had Amys car the week Amy was on vacation but it was more than a week from car drop off to 911 call wasnt it?


I think she let her use it more than just that time frame. i'll see if I can't find a link to wht i read/heard about it. Hopefully I can find it today. lol

[rosejustrose]

The 30th.

There are a lot of unanswered questions about where Casey stayed and how she got around while TonE was out of town. We know he didn't trust her enough to let her stay at his house.

Didn't Amy let her stay at her house?

[Texas48]

IMO, maybe they should toss the whole bunch, including the protesters and the Anthony's, in the drunk tank for the night next time they get into it. They'll either cool off or kill each other. Problem solved!
:biggrin:

IMO,,You are so correct. I wish LE would think about doing just this. Great Idea.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Wasn't Amy only gone a week? The car was towed at the end of June...

I had a question for you. Not related to the car.

Was there anything interesting on Casey's facebook as of recent? Has she posted to you on there? :D
Enquiring minds want to know. lol

[Cury-us Coyote]

Rebel ...

A poster I have the utmost respect for thinks she may have left the car there as a statement to her mother .... since it was left in a place where her mother would pass by every day ... you know, a middle finger gesture.

IMO

Read that post also. IMO, parking the car in the Anthony front yard with four flat tires etc would be a message received with more certainty and impact to one's pride.
jmo

[rosejustrose]

I think Baez' problem isn't so much the gas as the decomp in the trunk. He will attack the science of the air sample and the credibility of the dogs. He will say there is no proof that a decomposing body would have been Caylee's and that others had access to the car both before and after it was left at Amscot. Casey is a wonderful person and lent her car routinely to others, often to her co-worker/friend from Universal, Sarah Biden. Sarah occasionally came to the Anthony house for a swim and, now that Casey thinks about it, frequently spoke about the possibility of burying a body there in the sandbox. Casey will not take the stand.

MOO

Wow!! A flock of pigs just flew by:biggrin:

[OneUp]

Hi barskin doll.

I have a theory on what Casey was planning but it's just a theory. I think she was going to gather money and leave the state and never have to explain anything to anyone jus lose contact with parents except for every now and then and make excuses why Caylee can't talk. People in another state would not know Casey had a child if she didn't want them to know. If she did tell them she had a child once but lost her. *Scott Peterson story to Amber Frey* Same thing with Casey if things hadn't fell apart. Just my theory and opinion on what Casey was planning.My theory on that is similar Reb...But I think the "marine" was a part of that plan.( Was his name Hawkins? My computer is SLOOOW and the docs. are taking forever to open).
Either she was going to tell him he was Caylees dad and milk that for all it's worth ( he MAY potentially be one to "look" at if need arises BTW). She could esily explain Caylees absence with a "tragic accident" story. That would also gain her sympathy and explain why she needed to leave Florida (...too many sad memories...:rolleyes:).
OR she planned to tell him that Her parents had custody of Caylee. That works unless he had reason to think he was Caylee's dad, in which case he might have tried for custody and found her out.
I do think her contacting him is significant. IMO, California was her next planned escape. Different coast, different crowd. Easy for her to hide from Cindy and disappear into the masses.
JMO.

[marshmallow]

No the child laying in the road crying in pain wasnt a patient..but a victim in this mess brought on by two adults who should have both know better. IMO

I think that's my favorite post today!
All the adults get the blame!

[purplepoints]

From what I was told with the new phones having GPS device made into the phones. They can track where the phone is by it just being turned on.

My S/O's cell phone beeps when we gain signal again after not having any signal in certain areas. So obviously it pings the tower that is closest when it gains signal and beeps. IMO I would think that is what happens anyway. Not an expert though.


Thanks for the info.

[summer4meplz]

I believe she borrowed Amy's car. I just read that or heard that in a news report. i thought? :shrug:

but she didn't get Amy's car until July 8....so what did she do between abandoning the car on June 26, or 27th and July 8th....

[Rebel Rouzer]

My theory on that is similar Reb...But I think the "marine" was a part of that plan.( Was his name Hawkins? My computer is SLOOOW and the docs. are taking forever to open).
Either she was going to tell him he was Caylees dad and milk that for all it's worth ( he MAY potentially be one to "look" at if need arises BTW). She could esily explain Caylees absence with a "tragic accident" story. That would also gain her sympathy and explain why she needed to leave Florida (...too many sad memories...:rolleyes:).
OR she planned to tell him that Her parents had custody of Caylee. That works unless he had reason to think he was Caylee's dad, in which case he might have tried for custody and found her out.
I do think her contacting him is significant. IMO, California was her next planned escape. Different coast, different crowd. Easy for her to hide from Cindy and disappear into the masses.
JMO.


I agree she was going to head to California. IMO

[bluwaters]

Wasn't the car at the parking lot for only a few days as well?

I know the date the car was first noticed to be at the lot was the 27th ... I don't recall what date it was towed.

IMO
George said Casey came by on June 24, and he removed his stolen gas cans from her trunk.

Car was abandonned by June 27, possibly earlier?

The car was towed on June 30.

TonE was in out of town over July 4 holiday - don't know the exact dates, 1-7? maybe?
Did Casey use his car during that time.

Amy was in PR July 8 - 15.
Casey had the use of Amy's car during that week.

Casey was staying at TonE's full time during the last 2 weeks of June.
She probably just used him for rides from abandoning her car until he left town.
Maybe used his car while he was out of town.
Had the use of Amy's car about the time TonE returned.

Need to check out some dates and if Casey used Tone's car while he was away, but, this could explain Casey's transportation after leaving her car at Amscot.

[rosejustrose]

but she didn't get Amy's car until July 8....so what did she do between abandoning the car on June 26, or 27th and July 8th....

When was Tony out of town? Casey was probably mooching rides off of acquaintances and partying her butt off. The big 4th of July weekend was coming up. Remember Casey at the anything but clothes party desecrating the US Flag. IMO, she wasn't hurting for rides. IMO.

[Texas48]

I don't know about not letting your children come on a midnight mission, but

Cindy, the nurse who cares about people's blood pressure (Kitty Gonzalez, George Anthony), doesn't care to tend to a child who is obviously in pain.


So I say, poor Caylee.
And I say "poor child" that was on the ground crying in pain and no one had enough sense to STOP screaming and go and check on him. IMO

[Unperson1984]

but she didn't get Amy's car until July 8....so what did she do between abandoning the car on June 26, or 27th and July 8th....

That's why I wonder if she used TonE's car while he was out of town. Did't he leave on June 30th?

[summer4meplz]

George said Casey came by on June 24, and he removed his stolen gas cans from her trunk.

Car was abandonned by June 27, possibly earlier?

The car was towed on June 30.

TonE was in out of town over July 4 holiday - don't know the exact dates, 1-7? maybe?
Did Casey use his car during that time.

Amy was in PR July 8 - 15.
Casey had the use of Amy's car during that week.

Casey was staying at TonE's full time during the last 2 weeks of June.
She probably just used him for rides from abandoning her car until he left town.
Maybe used his car while he was out of town.
Had the use of Amy's car about the time TonE returned.

Need to check out some dates and ifCasey used Tone's car while he was away, but, this could explain Casey's transportation after leaving her car at Amscot.


Re: casey staying at tony's full time....she stayed with jesse that final weekend didn't she? the day her phone had no activity..i think it was june 28?

[summer4meplz]

I wonder why ws keeps deleting those photos?

[tiny paw-prints]

I don't expect you to search, lol, it just isn't mentioned much...iirc it was to celebrate cindy's 50th birthday....so I would assume casey and Caylee had the house to themselves during that time...no, wait...it must have been in July....Caylee was already gone by then and casey wasn't living at home....

Hi summer :seeya:

IIRC, G&C took a mini-vacation for Cindy's 50th birthday sometime during the week of June 9-14th, or more likely sometime during the week of June 7-14th according to their first signed statements:

As having last seen Caylee; Cindy's first signed statement said June 7, George said June 8, Casey said June 9th.

However, as we all know, the above dates Later changed due to the Father's Day video camera stamped date of June 15th, retrieved from one of the Anthony computers, as well as sworn statements taken from other witnesses.

[rosejustrose]

George said Casey came by on June 24, and he removed his stolen gas cans from her trunk.

Car was abandonned by June 27, possibly earlier?

The car was towed on June 30.

TonE was in out of town over July 4 holiday - don't know the exact dates, 1-7? maybe?
Did Casey use his car during that time.

Amy was in PR July 8 - 15.
Casey had the use of Amy's car during that week.

Casey was staying at TonE's full time during the last 2 weeks of June.
She probably just used him for rides from abandoning her car until he left town.
Maybe used his car while he was out of town.
Had the use of Amy's car about the time TonE returned.

Need to check out some dates and ifCasey used Tone's car while he was away, but, this could explain Casey's transportation after leaving her car at Amscot.

Wasn't June 24 the day he reported them stolen to LE? So he saw Casey on June 24, nine days after he last saw Caylee. I wonder if he asked where she was and why he didn't become concerned at that point. JMHO.

[summer4meplz]

When was Tony out of town? Casey was probably mooching rides off of acquaintances and partying her butt off. The big 4th of July weekend was coming up. Remember Casey at the anything but clothes party desecrating the US Flag. IMO, she wasn't hurting for rides. IMO.

was that pic from this past july 4...?

[Pruddennce]

You are so smart. :read:
What do you think Baez will try to do about the car?

thats not his biggest problem....a babysitter/nanny need for non-existent employment.

TWO YEARS of deception....the only time she needed a "NAME" for a babysitter was when she was caught, without her car and without her child.

her parents under oath will say the inevitable (Cindy at the bond hearing)....she 'knew of' ZG but never had a need to communicate with her, meet her, etc.

LE will have the results of their investigation brought forth.....she wasnt employed for two years....which brings forth a common sense thought process regarding a babysitter existing.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[OneUp]

I heard (not here) that someone said GA was interviewed this morning and he said he believes that the protesters are being paid. :eek: Is he having out of body experiences??? If you don't agree with and buy the lies the Anthony's tell, you have to be on someone's payroll??? This is getting nuts. If anyone knows of a link to the interview, I'd love to see it. MOOI hadn't heard that...but if true I do wonder what led him to think that? Maybe somebody else's paid supporters and Facebook fans planted the seed of that idea?
BTW, concerning the Facebook page of Casey's..I read some talk last night suggesting it may be someone other than Casey utilizing it, correct?
IMO if someone else is using it, they are committing a no no for a few reasons. IIRC, thoset ype sites specify that you agree to be the person you are purporting to be (I do realize many people on their lie!) this is far more seriousif you are "famous" or if you are using your site to garner $$$. If you present that people are signing up to be "Casey's friends" and chat with Casey when in fact it is someone else that's a BIG fraud IMO.
Imagine you set up a Brad Pitt facebook site and took donations. Your site says you are Brad Pitt, and people think their $ and comments go to Brad...can you imagine the trouble you would face if caught?
I don't think it matters if the $ ends up with Casey, you're still "selling" something that is not what people are "getting". Didn't people once get into some trouble for selling celebrity signatures that weren't the celebraties? In this case you are marketing Casey's "time" or attention to potential donors.
I imagine I'm explaining this rather poorly, but I hope you get my point.
JMO anyway.

[rosejustrose]

Lee has no room to talk at all..he IS an accident waiting to happen himself. Out ordering ppl of the sidewalk, trying to break signs and throwing the dogs water...for shame.

Don't forget almost mowing down 3 people, 1 adult and two children, with his 'stang!

[Armchairdet]

George said Casey came by on June 24, and he removed his stolen gas cans from her trunk.

Car was abandonned by June 27, possibly earlier?

The car was towed on June 30.

TonE was in out of town over July 4 holiday - don't know the exact dates, 1-7? maybe?
Did Casey use his car during that time.

Amy was in PR July 8 - 15.
Casey had the use of Amy's car during that week.

Casey was staying at TonE's full time during the last 2 weeks of June.
She probably just used him for rides from abandoning her car until he left town.
Maybe used his car while he was out of town.
Had the use of Amy's car about the time TonE returned.

Need to check out some dates and ifCasey used Tone's car while he was away, but, this could explain Casey's transportation after leaving her car at Amscot.

Interesting to note, she would have needed a car to get to and from work. That is to say she would need an explanation for when people asked how she was getting to work. I know she used the excuse she worked from her laptop.

But let's imagine for a moment you are TonE. This new girlfriend who is now without transportation, but works from your apartment still would need to get to and from appointments, to visit her daughter etc. If you did loan her your car for such things it would seem you would expect her to pick up the car seat for use when she is with her daughter.

So either A, he allowed her the use of the car but she never had her daughter with her during that time, or B, she had other transportation. Did she have a carseat in Amy's car? Even if we were to believe Caylee had been kidnapped Casey would have carried the seat with her, would she not have? To me it would have gave more credibility to her kidnapping story.

IMO

[5boxersmom]

She is as ill as Casey. She can not control herself. She is so needy for attention and confrontation that having the protestors out there is simply irresistable.


WOW I just saw the video. Why can't Cindy just ignore them? Why can't the protesters leave their kids at home? Just crazy.

I noticed when Cindy says at the end she has people looking for Caylee, for some reason it just does not sound very convincing to me. Just sounds like the same old line over and over again.jmo

Caylee
:rose:

[rosejustrose]

was that pic from this past july 4...?

Yes that's how it was posted.

[summer4meplz]

Hi summer :seeya:

IIRC, G&C took a mini-vacation for Cindy's 50th birthday sometime during the week of June 9-14th, or more likely sometime during the week of June 7-14th according to their first signed statements:

As having last seen Caylee; Cindy's first signed statement said June 7, George said June 8, Casey said June 9th.

However, as we all know, the above dates Later changed due to the Father's Day video camera stamped date of June 15th, retrieved from one of the Anthony computers, as well as sworn statements taken from other witnesses.


Hi Tiny
with all the lies and confusion, it's nearly impossible to put it together...but...i thought cindy said, the reason they didn't get the tow notice was because they were out of town...so did they take 2 trips?

[OneUp]

I don't think so either..She backed into that space all by her self...That would be just one more coincidence if one believes she did accidentally run out of gas at the Amscot. How fortunate to run out right at ones destination...she did go there to cash checks didn't she?

[Pag Boi]

George took gas with him when he went to get the car, but did he need it?
I know he used it, but was it necessary?

Thanks bluwaters. I missed that. Do you know what George used as a gas container? I thought his were stolen. Or had the culprit returned them by that date?

[rj1212]

Last night I thought Cindy or another member of the Anthony's were on this thread along with some other posters...

Let's just say it's here again...;)



Uh...WHERE'S CAYLEE?

There'd be child on the ground rolling around if you allowed Casey Anthony to stay IN JAIL...where you claimed she would be "safer" anyway...

[rosejustrose]

And the protesters need a lesson in humanity, civility, and decency, oh and parenting.

jmho

Ditto that for the Anthonys. IMO, this whole mess is because they raised a lying tramp and put up with her pathological ways for her entire life. By definition pathological liars do not know humanity, civility and decency. They have no regard for the rights of others. To enable such a cretin is to be put in the same category. Oh, and parenting - let's not even go there, OK.

JMO.

[bluwaters]

The difference is that Cindy was at her own home. The Mother of the child was there to incite trouble, and trouble she got. In any case, Ciney isn't responsible for the well being of that child. That child was injured due to the actions of its mother. No one to blame but her.

jmho

There is a moral obligation for adults to look to the needs of children.
As a teacher, I have a legal obligation to report suspected abuse of a child to the authorities.
I don't know who's talking about blame when it comes to the neglect of that child's injury.
It seems to me that reasonable adults would have all responded to that child's need at the time. Reasonable people would not have been in that situation, on either side of the argument.
jmho

[OneUp]

Just like Lee said the other day. It was an accident waiting to happen, and sure enough.. it did.Do you have a link to the quote from Lee stating that there was an accident waiting to happen? I miss some of the articles, and I'm SURE I missed that one!
Thnks!

[tiny paw-prints]

I wonder why ws keeps deleting those photos?

I noticed that too. There were several photos uploaded over there yesterday and then very soon removed (a member's private photobucket)? Did you happen to view the 2 photos of Caylee and Cindy in the pool, and the other photo of Caylee and George in the pool? Both photos were taken on the same day.

[marshmallow]

And the protesters need a lesson in humanity, civility, and decency, oh and parenting.

jmho




seems to me there's enough blame in that situation for ALL the adults. The protesters and Cindy who went out with a weapon and a threat to use it. All the adults involved were wrong all of them :no:

[bluwaters]

Its never a good thing to walk in front of a moving car, especially with children. Also not sucha good thing to plant your family on the driveway of a private residence. I guess these people just never learn.
:o
No one walked in front of the car. The protester holding the child was not on private property.
Lee wheeled his car into the drive with reckless disregard for the people who were obviously already there.
Lee seemed to mistakenly think that he was justified had someone been injured by the car.
In FL, pedestrians always have the right of way.

Goodbye! :seeya:
*click*

[OneUp]

Interesting to note, she would have needed a car to get to and from work. That is to say she would need an explanation for when people asked how she was getting to work. I know she used the excuse she worked from her laptop.

But let's imagine for a moment you are TonE. This new girlfriend who is now without transportation, but works from your apartment still would need to get to and from appointments, to visit her daughter etc. If you did loan her your car for such things it would seem you would expect her to pick up the car seat for use when she is with her daughter.

So either A, he allowed her the use of the car but she never had her daughter with her during that time, or B, she had other transportation. Did she have a carseat in Amy's car? Even if we were to believe Caylee had been kidnapped Casey would have carried the seat with her, would she not have? To me it would have gave more credibility to her kidnapping story.

IMOI *think* I remember reading that at one point Casey bagan to tell TonE and his roomate(s) that her boss was allowing her to work from the computer "at home" so she stayed in on the computer all day( home being TonE's). Anyone want to bet that she was first "allowed to work from home" right about when her car was abandoned?
JMO.

[Cury-us Coyote]

IMO, because it was not parked in front of the door, she belived it would not be towed.

IIRC, she said she left a note on the car. I wonder if the Amscot employee or tow truck driver saw the note.

Based on Amy's transcript of taped interview (page 255), IMO Casey's car was towed once before the Amscot; Amy had cash - Casey did not.
jmo

[marshmallow]

The reporter narrating that video made it perfectly clear that that's exactly what happened in stating that the woman came onto Cindy's property. :)

and Cindy with her ham mer and threats was wrong too :no:
I refuse to pick a side (or a fight), all the adults were wrong.

[summer4meplz]

I noticed that too. There were several photos uploaded over there yesterday and then very soon removed (a member's private photobucket)? Did you happen to view the 2 photos of Caylee and Cindy in the pool, and the other photo of Caylee and George in the pool? Both photos were taken on the same day.


There were also pictures of some kind of party...I think they said it was Lauren's bbq....the house in the background was at oveida...i don't know if that's spelled correctly, but it was conjectured that this is the house amy referenced about getting her mail....it's for sale for over half a million dollars...kinda pricey for 2 young girls...imo

[rj1212]

I'm certainly not going to defend irresponsible parenting...

but the Anthony's had to know that they were awaking a sleeping giant when Cindy told America to get off their a**es and help find her grand daughter...remember that?

Now the people of America (yes, that includes the crazy ones too, like the Jerry Springer types and those who aren't the best of parents) are saying to the Anthony's "Why aren't you looking for Caylee? You've bailed out Casey TWICE and haven't looked for Caylee YET!"

As for those irresponsible parents...they're probably irresponsible with their children EVERY Friday and Saturday night, if not every night. So from their point of view it makes no difference...:punch: it is what it is.

[Shellberry]

There were also pictures of some kind of party...I think they said it was Lauren's bbq....the house in the background was at oveida...i don't know if that's spelled correctly, but it was conjectured that this is the house amy referenced about getting her mail....it's for sale for over half a million dollars...kinda pricey for 2 young girls...imo

oh wow-is there a link for/to it?
I'd love to see it, I was wondering what part-if any-the oveido house plays in this.


imo/jmo

[bluwaters]

Then Cindy tromped right on out to her car...even after the lady got off her property..to swing her hammer and threaten.
I saw 2 videos, and the woman was not on the Anthony's property in either one. Cindy sure did march right out into the public street with her hammer.

[Armchairdet]

I *think* I remember reading that at one point Casey bagan to tell TonE and his roomate(s) that her boss was allowing her to work from the computer "at home" so she stayed in on the computer all day( home being TonE's). Anyone want to bet that she was first "allowed to work from home" right about when her car was abandoned?
JMO.


I think you are spot on. But I am trying to think like a patholigical liar that is trying to hide the fact that I did something to my child. Wouldn't I still pretend I needed things like a carseat? I mean even if she was not using his car, would she not grab it out of her car when he picked her up at the Amscot lot? You know, kind of pretending she would need it someday?

[charm7]

I just checked the cam and this one is working now, hopefully it does tonight.
If your aware already just ignore me I haven't had a chance to read upthread.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[martha]

If george got the gas cans out of the car on the 24 and the car was towed on the 27 then there was more in the trunk than just gas cans. you know the trunk smelled bad then. on the 24 when he got the gas cans out was there something elce in the trunk that casey did not want him to see. now that makes me wonder did ga know more than he is telling. I know ga and ca is protecting casey big time. jmho:rose:

[kakax]

I had a question for you. Not related to the car.

Was there anything interesting on Casey's facebook as of recent? Has she posted to you on there? :D
Enquiring minds want to know. lol

I just checked and she hasn't posted anything to me. It is only a page with people saying they are praying for her. There are no posts from her.

This is posted on the page

due to the mass amount of tips coming through daily, the Anthony family is unable to read your comments and messages. however, we will do our best to relay any information to them. thank you for your support. -a friend of the anthony family

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Was the child Cindy's patient?

I truly hope you are being sarcastic..or trying to be funny..If not i am shocked with that "Tag Line"!

Nurses or True Caregivers need not to be assigned a patient, or assignment to turn on their instincts to care for someone??..It's called compassion!! However, it is true that some nurses are just like that.."Im not being paid to look after someone elses patient/child"!...Like all professions, some people are in it for the wrong reasons..!

The mentality to care, nurture, protect is an instinct, not learned. You either feel it or you dont.

LMS:(

[OneUp]

Its never a good thing to walk in front of a moving car, especially with children. Also not sucha good thing to plant your family on the driveway of a private residence. I guess these people just never learn.
:oNever learn what exactly? that a pedestrian ALWAYS has the right of way over a car?
JMO...here in the distant land of Kansas, people can ( an do) walk wherever they like, the cars and their drivers must make way.

[Newclothes]

I have never read or heard anything that said Lee was known to have a temper. Had he ever been in trouble due to his temper, before the mob started trespassing on his parents property? Did he have any trouble as he was growing up, in school, at work, at all. I haven't heard that he did.

IMO....You don't have to read anything about Lee having a temper! Just watch the video's.

[bluwaters]

I'm certainly not going to defend irresponsible parenting...

but the Anthony's had to know that they were awaking a sleeping giant when Cindy told America to get off their a**es and help find her grand daughter...remember that?

Now the people of America (yes, that includes the crazy ones too, like the Jerry Springer types and those who aren't the best of parents) are saying to the Anthony's "Why aren't you looking for Caylee? You've bailed out Casey TWICE and haven't looked for Caylee YET!"

As for those irresponsible parents...they're probably irresponsible with their children EVERY Friday and Saturday night, if not every night. So from their point of view it makes no difference...:punch: it is what it is.
:lol: Cindy was using exactly the kind of language that called out just the kind who are now off their a**es and hanging out in front of her house!

[Armchairdet]

If george got the gas cans out of the car on the 24 and the car was towed on the 27 then there was more in the trunk than just gas cans. you know the trunk smelled bad then. on the 24 when he got the gas cans out was there something elce in the trunk that casey did not want him to see. now that makes me wonder did ga know more than he is telling. I know ga and ca is protecting casey big time. jmho:rose:

Good question. And leaving the car where Cindy would see it twice a day..(Cindy's own words if I am not mistaken). That is not the best way to hide something bad from them. Unless they already knew something had happened. Or unless she hoped it would be picked up, brought home, and then the evidence would be at the Anthony home.

[marshmallow]

There is a moral obligation for adults to look to the needs of children.
As a teacher, I have a legal obligation to report suspected abuse of a child to the authorities.
I don't know who's talking about blame when it comes to the neglect of that child's injury.
It seems to me that reasonable adults would have all responded to that child's need at the time. Reasonable people would not have been in that situation, on either side of the argument.
jmho

well said :)

[Pruddennce]

When was Tony out of town? Casey was probably mooching rides off of acquaintances and partying her butt off. The big 4th of July weekend was coming up. Remember Casey at the anything but clothes party desecrating the US Flag. IMO, she wasn't hurting for rides. IMO.

Tony last saw Caylee on June 2.

Tony's car was towed on June 9th and was serviced. He picked the car up the same day.

June 30 thru July 5, Tony was in New York. But she didnt stay at his place while he was away, she stayed with Amy.

She also stayed the nite of June 9th at Ricardo's with Caylee. which kind of is interesting because she had 'kind of' moved in with Tony.

witness' accounts indicate Caylee never stayed overnite at Tony's, I suspect the big blowup happened at home, and she left with Caylee and went to Ricardo's....probably because she didnt want to 'rock the boat' with her new relationship....she liked the 'no kid zone' arrangement. and wasnt going to show up there with Caylee for the nite.

best regards,
Pru

[msjoni]

Would the prosecution be able to subpoena Cindy's therapist for trial, or is that privileged information?

[martha]

I really think the reason ca,ga,and lee or not out looking for caylee is they already know she is gone. They know she is dead. now all they have left is casey and they or going to do what ever they have to do to keep her from going to jail. I bet casey gets out of all this mess and they will make a lot of money on a book and tv deal. jmho. they have the lawyers to get them all out of what ever has happened. they had no money so they have got to get money from some where. both lawyers know there will be big money down the road. They will get their part of it too. jmho:rose:

[bluwaters]

If george got the gas cans out of the car on the 24 and the car was towed on the 27 then there was more in the trunk than just gas cans. you know the trunk smelled bad then. on the 24 when he got the gas cans out was there something elce in the trunk that casey did not want him to see. now that makes me wonder did ga know more than he is telling. I know ga and ca is protecting casey big time. jmho:rose:
I agree with you Martha.

[rj1212]

:lol: Cindy was using exactly the kind of language that called out just the kind who are now off their a**es and hanging out in front of her house!

Rather ironic, isn't it??? :biggrin:

[impartial]

Would the prosecution be able to subpoena Cindy's therapist for trial, or is that privileged information?


Privileged.

Now, if the therapist comes into information that a child is being abused, they have to report it ... same as an MD.

IMO

[Acorn]

Would the prosecution be able to subpoena Cindy's therapist for trial, or is that privileged information?

It's not always privileged. It can be heard in chambers and sealed from the public record. imo

[charm7]

Hagd e1

oh yeah,,your very welcome:rolleyes:

[rj1212]

I'm tellin' ya guys...

One of the Anthony's is on this thread right now...

be back in a bit...

[rosejustrose]

Fending off? LOL

You mean that supposed excuse for a "mother" who brought her kid out to witness F bombs and confrontation was fending off, right? - all the while promoting the F bombs and confrontation that she was "fending off".

Now that's funny. :)

She shouldn't have had her kid there to begin with while pretending to protest poor parenting as she displayed poor parenting herself.

You're assuming she was the child's mother. I don't believe the protesters are protesting Cindy's poor parenting, per se. I believe they are protesting Casey's lack of empathy and disregard for the whereabouts of her child. That's poor parenting, he!! that's a good example of a soulless, cold blooded, witch. Cindy's anger problems are evident in many of her interviews and interactions with the protesters and others. All of the adults involved in last night's confrontation were guilty of poor judgement, not poor parenting. OMG, get a grip. No one was right in that situation. The Anthonys need to recognize the rights of others and respect them. IMO.

[cuddlyrunner]

She is online on facebook at the moment (doesn't seem to want to chat with me though lol),

Surely this internet access should be being monitored. If it is someone else using her account it opens up the question does she have passwords to other people's accounts-is that common in her circle? And if so, is she contacting/or has she contacted people using a different name than what LE are looking for?

[rosejustrose]

I have never read or heard anything that said Lee was known to have a temper. Had he ever been in trouble due to his temper, before the mob started trespassing on his parents property? Did he have any trouble as he was growing up, in school, at work, at all. I haven't heard that he did.

DUI comes to mind. IMO

[Newclothes]

WELCOME ABOARD!:seeya:

Thanks:seeya:

[OneUp]

I think you are spot on. But I am trying to think like a patholigical liar that is trying to hide the fact that I did something to my child. Wouldn't I still pretend I needed things like a carseat? I mean even if she was not using his car, would she not grab it out of her car when he picked her up at the Amscot lot? You know, kind of pretending she would need it someday?NO, remember, Casey kept telling anyone who would ask that the "nanny" had Caylee at the beach...and Disneyland...and just staying one more day...
This is why I think casey was already plotting her next escape ( it started ffrom Cindy's to TonE's)...planning to head to Ca. when Amy and whomever else found out they had $ missing and caught on to her lies. I'm sure she thought she would be long gone before anyone really started getting concerned about not seeing Caylee around.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Someone over at Children's Services will see the tape and hopefully open an investigation for that child.


Just a shame they didn't do that for Caylee before Casey murdered her.

IMO.

[impartial]

Well.. where I live if someone jumps in front of my car and they are injured because of it, I wouldn't be held responsible. A driver has a duty of care towards a pedestrian, that doesn't mean he has to become superman and propell his car into the air to avoid hitting someone who clearly stepped into the path of his moving car.

jmho



I went to traffic school a few years ago, and the officer said that pedestrians do not have the right-of-way ... roads are for cars, not pedestrians ... except if they are in a crosswalk.

:shrug:


IMO

[rosejustrose]

Now thats makes me wonder if Casey had a life insurance policy on Caylee...:eek:

Oh my, good point:beer:

[Newclothes]

Get your scroll button ready or the ignore feature warmed up..its a bumpy ride at times.

LOL! I have already put it to use:)

[st777jo]

Yes, here is why -

"The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

Me thinks someone needs to clearly look at that video again.

Me also needs to ask why would Cindy come out at midnight to hammer a post, knowing full well there were protesters out there? jmo

[Lyndawitha"Y]

She is online on facebook at the moment (doesn't seem to want to chat with me though lol),

Surely this internet access should be being monitored. If it is someone else using her account it opens up the question does she have passwords to other people's accounts-is that common in her circle? And if so, is she contacting/or has she contacted people using a different name than what LE are looking for?


i do think they can trace where postings come from by the "IP" address..so doesnt matter what nic..passwords get used to log on..as it is the location of the 'LOG ON" which will tell the tale!!

LMS

[Kathlb]

LOL arrest.....

Don't look for that to happen considering the reporter of that video made it perfectly clear that Cindy was using that hammer to put up new signs that the pretend protesters had knocked down - as the hee haw group came onto Cindy's property.

You've called other people this name twice now and since it didn't get a reaction the first time, you've put it in bold typeface this time. It's not going to get a reaction this time either. You may as well just move on to pertinent things concerning Caylee missing. JMHO

[rosejustrose]

No, I said was he known to have temper problems BEFORE the protesters came. I watched the video, and I think Lee should have taken a chain saw to the big sign, since he was having trouble breaking it. As far as Lee having a bad temper, Ive seen worse tempers on these forums.

jmho

Are you gonna show us yours:D

[Pag Boi]

If george got the gas cans out of the car on the 24 and the car was towed on the 27 then there was more in the trunk than just gas cans. you know the trunk smelled bad then. on the 24 when he got the gas cans out was there something elce in the trunk that casey did not want him to see. now that makes me wonder did ga know more than he is telling. I know ga and ca is protecting casey big time. jmho:rose:


Hiya Martha - what else was in the trunk? How do we know? Thanks

[rosejustrose]

Is it illegal for a homeowner to hold a hammer in Florida?

It's illegal in any state to hold a ham mer and threaten someone with it. Duh!

[OneUp]

Someone over at Children's Services will see the tape and hopefully open an investigation for that child.I wil agree with that. I don't like seinga child out that late unless maybe for a special occasion ( going to see the Anthony House of Horrors is not a special outing in my book), and no one there checking his injury is troublesome as well. IMO, Cindy was not the only adult there displaying a nasty temper. It has been my experience that Violent outburts like that don't happen in a vaacum.
Now, as this forum is dedicated to Caylee's case, I'll let the subject of my concerns for that particular child rest. If anyone here has a grave concern I highly recommend that you call DCF in Florida an suggest they look into it.
If not, this may not be the place for worries about his wellbeing anyway...you can always start a thread in the child abuse/neglect forum here just for that little boy. You even have article and news links to add.
JMO>

[Acorn]

Well.. where I live if someone jumps in front of my car and they are injured because of it, I wouldn't be held responsible. A driver has a duty of care towards a pedestrian, that doesn't mean he has to become superman and propell his car into the air to avoid hitting someone who clearly stepped into the path of his moving car.

jmho

Lee said he honked at her, so obviously he saw her in the sidewalk easement of the driveway.

Pedestrians are allowed in that portion and don't have to walk out to the street through the grass to avoid a driveway then walk back through the grass to get back onto the sidewalk.

He saw her there.

moo

[5boxersmom]

Me thinks someone needs to clearly look at that video again.

Me also needs to ask why would Cindy come out at midnight to hammer a post, knowing full well there were protesters out there? jmo

I don't understand her doing that. She was out earlier in the day weeding with the bodyguard so why confront someone like that? jmo

Caylee:rose:

[cuddlyrunner]

i do think they can trace where postings come from by the "IP" address..so doesnt matter what nic..passwords get used to log on..as it is the location of the 'LOG ON" which will tell the tale!!

LMS

I'm not explaining myself very well (it's my age lol). I meant that when LE seized computers, did they seize every computer she had access to during the time period they are interested in. Otherwise she may have had logged on to a site/account using a friend's name and sent messages to someone. For example , I could go to my local library and log on to my h2b's myspace account and send a message to someone. Unless that person went to LE and told them, LE wouldn't know.

[OneUp]

:lol: Cindy was using exactly the kind of language that called out just the kind who are now off their a**es and hanging out in front of her house!
You have a point...a duck calls brings ducks and a turkey call brings turkeys
JMO.

[joint-heir]

Does anyone have any more info on this house that hasn't been posted? Did Amy live there before with other girls? Thanks;)

[rosejustrose]

LOL arrest.....

Don't look for that to happen considering the reporter of that video made it perfectly clear that Cindy was using that hammer to put up new signs that the pretend protesters had knocked down - as the hee haw group came onto Cindy's property.

Get your facts straight. It's obvious from the videos no one trespassed on the Anthony property. Quite the contrary, crazy Cindy charged the van weilding her ever present hammer. And yes, LE can consider charges if the woman Cindy threatened presses charges, just like George may likely face assault charges for manhandling a woman. Geez, does abusing women and small children run in the Anthony family?

IMO.

[day2day]

I saw 2 videos, and the woman was not on the Anthony's property in either one. Cindy sure did march right out into the public street with her hammer.


You bet she did. Swingin hammers and f-bombs a flying. I hope that she doesn't use her pretty talk at the vigils. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Yes, here is why -

"The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

Appeared to come onto the property isn't the same as came onto the property. The videos show they didn't. IMO

[OneUp]

Is it illegal for a homeowner to hold a hammer in Florida?I'm no lawyer, but I *believe* it IS illegal to threaten to use one on someone.
JMO
* BTW, I'm still patiently waiting for a link to the article where Lee says there is an accident waiting to happen at his parents house. I think board courtesy dictates you should provide me with one. It may just change my outlook on Lee...which is admittedly pretty bleak at this point in time.

[5boxersmom]

IMO, because she's harboring the murderer of her granddaughter, tiptoeing around her, handling her with kid gloves, making sure she's comfy and has everything she needs ... and she's got some serious pent-up emotion around the whole thing.

You are probably right. And like I said earlier when Cindy says she has people looking for Caylee, her voice just sounds empty. Like she is just repeating the same thing over and over and she is not even convincing herself.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[day2day]

IMO, because she's harboring the murderer of her granddaughter, tiptoeing around her, handling her with kid gloves, making sure she's comfy and has everything she needs ... and she's got some serious pent-up emotion around the whole thing.

I agree! All she has to do is put her hammer down on her own flesh and blood. Draw the line. Either she helps LE or she will help revoke the bond. This would BRING Caylee home and end this nonsense ONCE and for all. jmo

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Quote:
Originally Posted by martha
If george got the gas cans out of the car on the 24 and the car was towed on the 27 then there was more in the trunk than just gas cans. you know the trunk smelled bad then. on the 24 when he got the gas cans out was there something elce in the trunk that casey did not want him to see. now that makes me wonder did ga know more than he is telling. I know ga and ca is protecting casey big time. jmho


Man oh man, I thought those gas can's had been reported on the 24th as missing on the 24th by George?..Isnt there a document somewhere on the link thread showing this report of the shed being broken into and those gas cans and gas missing??

I actually think that George found those gas cans in the trunk when he brought that car home from the yard..removed them from that trunk after getting home from his stinky drive with windows open wide!!

Someone please correct me if my recall is faulty?!TYIA

LMS

[bchand]

You bet she did. Swingin hammers and f-bombs a flying. I hope that she doesn't use her pretty talk at the vigils. JMO

Oh but she did, didn't she day2day? It was at a Sunday night vigil that she told everyone to get off their A@@es and find her granddaughter IIRC.

I was wondering how the pastor felt about that.

[rosejustrose]

That wasn't a human being, it was a sign post. There is a difference.

Go back to the original question. Cindy weilding a hammer and threatening someone is illegal. We're not talking about you trying to destroy a protesters sign or run down pedestrians. IMO.

[Newclothes]

I don't understand her doing that. She was out earlier in the day weeding with the bodyguard so why confront someone like that? jmo

Caylee:rose:

IMO..Cindy wants people to talk about the protesters more than about Casey and Caylee. This brings the attention off Casey and on to someone else. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Wow!! A flock of pigs just flew by:biggrin:

Make that a drift of pigs flying by........ :tongue:


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_group_of_pigs_are_called

[rosejustrose]

Lee got a DUI? What does a dui have to do with a temper. Dui will get you sent to AA, not anger management.

It's indicative of a "I don't give a damn" attitude. Another Anthony family trait, IMO.

[debkay]

Does anyone have any more info on this house that hasn't been posted? Did Amy live there before with other girls? Thanks;)

Today is the first I heard anything about this house. Can you fill me in or give me a link to read about it? Thanks.:shrug:

[Regina.Lampert]

Oh but she did, didn't she day2day? It was at a Sunday night vigil that she told everyone to get off their A@@es and find her granddaughter IIRC.

I was wondering how the pastor felt about that.

One of these days somebody is gonna ask her if she kissed Caylee with that mouth!

[day2day]

Oh but she did, didn't she day2day? It was at a Sunday night vigil that she told everyone to get off their A@@es and find her granddaughter IIRC.

I was wondering how the pastor felt about that.

She did?!?!? Lord help her. The solution to this problem is such a simple one. Casey should be in jail. Caylee should have a proper burial. jmo...

[AnnInOhio]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

Frankly, if I were Cindy and wanted something hammered outside I'd send Casey out to do it. Everytime a protester showed up, I'd tell her "Casey, someone is here because of you - come deal with it sweetie."

[rosejustrose]

Cindy didn't hit anybody with a h ammer, so I don't get your argument. A homeowner does have a right to defend his or her property. There are plenty of homeowners who would come out with gun to defend.

jmho

You mean after they retrieved it from the trunk of their car? BTW, does Cindy own the street? She clearly crossed the street to go after that woman with her handy-dandy ham mer. IMO.

[Newclothes]

It's indicative of a "I don't give a damn" attitude. Another Anthony family trait, IMO.

I agree! IMO a DUI shows not much regard for life of others!

[st777jo]

I agree! All she has to do is put her hammer down on her own flesh and blood. Draw the line. Either she helps LE or she will help revoke the bond. This would BRING Caylee home and end this nonsense ONCE and for all. jmo



Sums it up nicely for me.

[tiny paw-prints]

Hi Tiny
with all the lies and confusion, it's nearly impossible to put it together...but...i thought cindy said, the reason they didn't get the tow notice was because they were out of town...so did they take 2 trips?

Only 1 trip, between the days of June 7-14th, IMO. Do we know the day of Cindy's birthday from any official docs?

The excuses, lies and confusion, are/were part of the cover-up to deflect from the TRUTH of whatever happened to Caylee on the date of June 15th.

[luvinlife]

I thought there was a protestor thread.



Where is Caylee????



When do you think Casey will be arrested on any charge????

[bchand]

Frankly, if I were Cindy and wanted something hammered outside I'd send Casey out to do it. Everytime a protester showed up, I'd tell her "Casey, someone is here because of you - come deal with it sweetie."

Right - "Sweetheart, it's for you." !!

Been wondering where you've been Ann - I thought of you the other night when I posted about my favorite protestor who yelled "where are you people from? OHIO?" It just hit me funny but there were other Ohioans on to :punch: me about it.

[rosejustrose]

READ.

"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

You seem to have a lot of faith in what the media reports. That was one reporters perception. Did they verify the parent/child relationship or talk to the woman? Not as far as I heard. And, if you believe everything you read in the media, you should be out there protesting to have that guilty, child-murdering witch put back in jail. Because, of course, the media is always accurate.:rolleyes:

MOO

[bluwaters]

Lee said he honked at her, so obviously he saw her in the sidewalk easement of the driveway.

Pedestrians are allowed in that portion and don't have to walk out to the street through the grass to avoid a driveway then walk back through the grass to get back onto the sidewalk.

He saw her there.

moo
The apron of the driveway is also part of the public easement including the portion that adjoins the sidewalk.

[kakax]

Me thinks someone needs to clearly look at that video again.

Me also needs to ask why would Cindy come out at midnight to hammer a post, knowing full well there were protesters out there? jmo


And why didn't she have the bodyguards do it when they were there. It is like she waited for them to leave....

[st777jo]

Note to Cindy:

The protesters had nothing to do with Caylee.

That person you bailed out did.

You need to take your anger out on that person.

I believe, everyone else wants to know where is Caylee.

Everyone, it seems, but the Anthony's.

JMO

[rosejustrose]

I'm not explaining myself very well (it's my age lol). I meant that when LE seized computers, did they seize every computer she had access to during the time period they are interested in. Otherwise she may have had logged on to a site/account using a friend's name and sent messages to someone. For example , I could go to my local library and log on to my h2b's myspace account and send a message to someone. Unless that person went to LE and told them, LE wouldn't know.

I don't believe that they physically took the computers/laptop. IIRC, they made copies of the appropriate hard drives and cache files. Stand to be corrected.

[trich]

June 9 th .
Remember that date being said as the last time Caylee was seen and we all wondered why that date was mentioned.

Well I ws just rereading the interviews and it seems that according to RICADO MORALES that is the date that Casey and Caylee spent the night with him.
Now maybe that is why the date stuck in Casey's mind.
Then of course Cindy went along with that date for some unknown reason...forgetting about the nursing home visit on Father's Day.

Also the car was parked at Amscot on June 27th ...the car was towed on June 30th.

[day2day]

I thought there was a protestor thread.



Where is Caylee????



When do you think Casey will be arrested on any charge????

More charges could soon be filed against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, an Orange County Sheriff's spokesman told News 13.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

this was dated 9/13/08. :seeya:

[Kathlb]

I'm no lawyer, but I *believe* it IS illegal to threaten to use one on someone.
JMO
* BTW, I'm still patiently waiting for a link to the article where Lee says there is an accident waiting to happen at his parents house. I think board courtesy dictates you should provide me with one. It may just change my outlook on Lee...which is admittedly pretty bleak at this point in time.


http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2080705/posts

[rosejustrose]

Duh! Cindy didn't threaten anyone with that hammer. LOL

Apparently you didn't read the article nor view the link, because had you done so you would have seen that Cindy was using that hammer to once again replace the no trespassing signs.

You must have missed it. But, I get the distinct impression that you'll only see and believe what you want to. That's cool.;)

[AnnInOhio]

Right - "Sweetheart, it's for you." !!

Been wondering where you've been Ann - I thought of you the other night when I posted about my favorite protestor who yelled "where are you people from? OHIO?" It just hit me funny but there were other Ohioans on to :punch: me about it.

I've been lurking on and off. A little hung over after the Buckeyes' humiliating defeat by USC last night!

[Acorn]

The apron of the driveway is also part of the public easement including the portion that adjoins the sidewalk.

Yes Ma'am. That too.

[luvinlife]

More charges could soon be filed against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, an Orange County Sheriff's spokesman told News 13.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

this was dated 9/13/08. :seeya:




:seeya:

Didn't they say that last week too??

I don't know it is getting frustrating, I wonder what police are waiting for to charge her?
If they are waiting for Caylee's body, that worries me. I really hope that the only reason to wait for her body is that then they could charge her with 1st degree murder and not that they don't have enough evidence.

[bchand]

I've been lurking on and off. A little hung over after the Buckeyes' humiliating defeat by USC last night!

:rose: :rose:

[SavannahStar]

I *think* I remember reading that at one point Casey bagan to tell TonE and his roomate(s) that her boss was allowing her to work from the computer "at home" so she stayed in on the computer all day( home being TonE's). Anyone want to bet that she was first "allowed to work from home" right about when her car was abandoned?
JMO.


Good point, OneUP.

(BTW, yes I did read your earlier post to me, and point well taken. I don't totally agree with what you said there, but I do appreciate your time and thoughtfulness to make a courteous and well thought out responsive post! :seeya:)

[rosejustrose]

You are probably right. And like I said earlier when Cindy says she has people looking for Caylee, her voice just sounds empty. Like she is just repeating the same thing over and over and she is not even convincing herself.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I agree with you both. She had absolutely no conviction in her voice when she made that statement. I pity her when reality comes crashing down on her head. IMO, the posters who say it's probably a good thing the protesters are there because they provide an outlet for Cindy, George and Lee are correct. Casey would most likely be mince meat if they didn't have a place to vent their very explosive anger. JMO.

[Ionmhainn]

I'm no lawyer, but I *believe* it IS illegal to threaten to use one on someone.
JMO
* BTW, I'm still patiently waiting for a link to the article where Lee says there is an accident waiting to happen at his parents house. I think board courtesy dictates you should provide me with one. It may just change my outlook on Lee...which is admittedly pretty bleak at this point in time.


I think the expresssion "an accident waiting to happen" is pretty common and generally understood to mean that there is possible danger. Everything uttered by any of the Anthonys, including everyday expressions, seems to be taken to mean something sinister. A poster upthread mentioned how quickly tempers flare here, so I think it's a bit much to expect the Anthonys to remain calm no matter the provocation. It's a natural human response to get defensive when you feel you are under attack. imo

[marshmallow]

READ.

"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

I think this is something we can all agree to disagree on and move on from, don't you?
:)

[OneUp]

Well.. where I live if someone jumps in front of my car and they are injured because of it, I wouldn't be held responsible. A driver has a duty of care towards a pedestrian, that doesn't mean he has to become superman and propell his car into the air to avoid hitting someone who clearly stepped into the path of his moving car.

jmho...:eek:...Where do you live that someone may drive around at rapid speeds ina residential neighborhood filled with children and NOT be held liable for hitting a pedestrian? Most people I know drive carefully in family neighborhoods and certainly slow their cars before entering their driveways to maintain control. I've been at street fairs and carnivals as well and I *believe* that drivers there are expected to keep an eye out and drive slow....that house is certainly a carnival atmosphere if I've ever seen one!
I thought the laws of driving clearly state that the vehicle must be operated at all times at a rate of speed that allows the driver to remain in control and able to respond to any adverse conditions, etc. Here that is true regardless of posted speed limits, etc.
I never saw that video either though, where did you see one in which someone purposely stepped into Lee's car? I saw one with a person attempting to walk across a driveway on the public sidewalk?...or maybe once I saw some people crossing the street?
JMO...I'm glad I live in Kansas, apparently the home of the safety concious and courteous driver.:patriot:

[rosejustrose]

I agree! All she has to do is put her hammer down on her own flesh and blood. Draw the line. Either she helps LE or she will help revoke the bond. This would BRING Caylee home and end this nonsense ONCE and for all. jmo


Hi day2day! You know what I think, I think Cindy, George and Lee are so deeply entrenched in Casey's lies that they truly believe she has cooperated with LE and told them all she knows. Notice how they keep pointing fingers at everyone else claiming no one is helping them find Caylee, except, of course, those 3 anonymous people. However, for everyone's safety, I think Casey should be thrown back in jail and left there for the duration. Her presence at home with all its comforts is what infuriates people. She knows what she did with Caylee. She is just a self-absorbed, narcissistic b***h that she could not care less about what she's putting her family through. And for all their bluster, the Anthonys, less Casey, are starting to crack. It's gonna get a lot uglier before it get any better. JMHO.

[Armchairdet]

I think this is something we can all agree to disagree on and move on from, don't you?
:)

I would like to second this.

[st777jo]

LOL - the very nature of the word "mother" implies that she has a child.

But anyway, the child was in the back, busily getting his arm slammed in the door by his very own supposed mother.

I seen 3 different video's and I apologize. I didn't know you were there.

[TxLady2]

If you pay attention to the video, Cindy has long-since been pulled back across the street when that kid fell to the ground in pain - AND - notice the person yanking that kid up OFF the ground by his arm right before he falls back to the ground for the 2nd time.

There were plenty of the hee-haw bunch who brought that kid to a pretend protest who were in very close proximity to him at that vehicle to tend to his needs if they cared to do so.


Not to mention that if Cindy had stepped up to assist the kid, she would probably have been stomped to death by the kid's mother in the process! The boy's mother is ultimately the one to blame... they should not bring kids to this free-for-all anyway!

[Pebbles]

Me thinks someone needs to clearly look at that video again.

Me also needs to ask why would Cindy come out at midnight to hammer a post, knowing full well there were protesters out there? jmo


I totally disagree with protesters bringing small children to the Anthonys house, especially the language that small boy was using towards Cindy.

But I also feel that Cindy likes to get things stirred up for the camera. Let the body guards hammer in the no trespassing signs, they definitely do not seem to be working too hard. Is Cindy going to actually try and make us believe it was necessary for her to come out late at night to take care of the signs. Cindy leave the protesters alone, if you want them to leave you alone, or do you enjoy the attention!

I always remember my mother saying "two wrongs don't make a right". How true. While I am extremely angry with the Anthonys and Casey regarding little Caylee and so desperately want to see justice served, I feel some of the protesters are not helping the situation when they confront Cindy and the Anthonys with name calling.

Protest in silence, otherwise you will turn public opinion against you and what you are trying to do. Your screaming and name calling will not help bring justice to Caylee. Think of little Caylee when you are out there screaming and yelling, do you honestly think you are helping her when you do that! Cindy enjoys getting a reaction from you, stop giving her the satisfaction! There are also other ways to protest, write letters to the newspaper and news shows, or go out and search for Caylee.

I want Casey to pay for what she did to Caylee and I am just as angry as you regarding the Anthonys, but I honestly am embarrassed when I see the protesters shouting words that I would never let my children or grandchildren use. How is that helping anyone?



Caylee the angels are taking care of you now.

[rosejustrose]

Make that a drift of pigs flying by........ :tongue:


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_group_of_pigs_are_called

:D You learn something everyday. I hope that one comes up on Jeopardy.

[msjoni]

I’m not sure if this video was ever posted, it’s from the end of July at NYC local fox affiliate. This is when I stopped having sympathy for Cindy...moo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvEhnzlobA

[SavannahStar]

I think the expresssion "an accident waiting to happen" is pretty common and generally understood to mean that there is possible danger. Everything uttered by any of the Anthonys, including everyday expressions, seems to be taken to mean something sinister. A poster upthread mentioned how quickly tempers flare here, so I think it's a bit much to expect the Anthonys to remain calm no matter the provocation. It's a natural human response to get defensive when you feel you are under attack. imo

Very true, Ionmhainn! :beer:

[rosejustrose]

Probably is if they are nuts.

:lol: Too funny!

[kaylynn]

I thought there was a protestor thread.



Where is Caylee????



When do you think Casey will be arrested on any charge????

:rose: For Caylee.

As far as her beyond idiotic "mother", I think she'll be arrested again, absolutely. I think the prosecution is just taking their time and being extra-careful building a case against her.

[Unperson1984]

I don't understand her doing that. She was out earlier in the day weeding with the bodyguard so why confront someone like that? jmo

Caylee:rose:

Just a guess, but LE won't respond to a trespassing call unless there is a "No Trespassing" sign posted. So the protesters show up and Cindy goes outside to put the sign back up while George calls LE.

[Velouria]

I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for these protesters. They are there solely to cause trouble, and when they get what they came for, suddenly they become victims? I don't think so.

I can kinda see your point there. Likewise, I find it hard to see someone as a victim when they ask that a perp be arrested, then turn around and not only bail out said perp, but give them a place to stay.

[Keegan]

The protesters actually hurt the case. I don't know what they hope to accomplish. Do they think they can rush LE into charging her? Charging her before they have enough evidence to charge her to the highest degree? They are hurting the case.

When LE is ready, she will be arrested. All this will be history.

[marshmallow]

Just a guess, but LE won't respond to a trespassing call unless there is a "No Trespassing" sign posted. So the protesters show up and Cindy goes outside to put the sign back up while George calls LE.

I feel bad for the Anthonys and their obvious loss of control, this could all stop if Casey would talk. That's where all the blame should be w/ the person who caused all of this. This is about Caylee, not Cindy and protesters mutual stupity. Too bad neither Cindy or the protesters were thinking about the missing little girl huh? I suggest we all put aside our bickering and remind ourselves of what this is about.
Caylee.

[rosejustrose]

More charges could soon be filed against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, an Orange County Sheriff's spokesman told News 13.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

this was dated 9/13/08. :seeya:

IMO, they should prosecute her on the charges they have. Dang, she'll be put away for quite some time. In the meantime, they can continue the search for Caylee without all the crazy distractions and/or build a murder case without the body. Casey Anthony needs to be in jail. JMHO.

[joint-heir]

There were also pictures of some kind of party...I think they said it was Lauren's bbq....the house in the background was at oveida...i don't know if that's spelled correctly, but it was conjectured that this is the house amy referenced about getting her mail....it's for sale for over half a million dollars...kinda pricey for 2 young girls...imo

DebKay,
This is the quote for what I saw this morning...I remember somewhere it being mentioned about something might have gone in the mail to there.??

[kitty1182]

Are you talking about the Oviedo house?

There's plenty of information on it over at WS.

Quite interesting, I might add.

Sure is, that could be where her body is..

[OneUp]

Hiya Martha - what else was in the trunk? How do we know? ThanksPer the documents released, there was also trash which Mr. Birch (?...not sure on the name?) at the tow yard threw over the fence of the tow yard and into a dumpster. It was later retrieved by LE. Sorry, I don't have the exact page #.

[kitty1182]

You don't have faith that LE has checked out that home yet, and has instead just allowed her body to rot there?

There are lots of woods there..Yes, I would think they have searched..

[TxLady2]

It's illegal in any state to hold a ham mer and threaten someone with it. Duh!

If she raised the hammer up, indicating she might use it, that would be a threat. If she was merely holding the hammer at her side, it is not. Did she say she would use it on the woman? Did she indicate in any way that she would? If not... then I don't see where the threat is.

[rosejustrose]

LOL - the very nature of the word "mother" implies that she has a child.

But anyway, the child was in the back, busily getting his arm slammed in the door by his very own supposed mother.

But that's still not as bad as being murdered by your very own supposed mother, IMO.

[Magnum357]

It appeared she couldn't tend his needs because Cindy was in her face with a hammer. IMO

She didn't tend to his needs because she was too busy confronting Cindy. That was more important than her own child. Definitely a candidate for 1st runner up for 'Mother of the Year'.

[rj1212]

I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for these protesters. They are there solely to cause trouble, and when they get what they came for, suddenly they become victims? I don't think so.

I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for the Anthonys...:shrug:

[day2day]

:seeya:

Didn't they say that last week too??

I don't know it is getting frustrating, I wonder what police are waiting for to charge her?
If they are waiting for Caylee's body, that worries me. I really hope that the only reason to wait for her body is that then they could charge her with 1st degree murder and not that they don't have enough evidence.

Well this is more economic charges. I have no clue about Caylee. I am beginning to wonder if anyone besides us are still caring about her :(

JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

Goodmorning everyone :) *snip*
I thought it odd such a long pause when Casey was asked if Caylee went missing before or after the car ran out of gas or something to that effect....
what was casey's answer as to whether caylee went missing before or after the car ran out of gas??

[Pebbles]

IMO..Cindy wants people to talk about the protesters more than about Casey and Caylee. This brings the attention off Casey and on to someone else. JMO

I agree!:beer:

[rosejustrose]

I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for these protesters. They are there solely to cause trouble, and when they get what they came for, suddenly they become victims? I don't think so.

Most are there because they are infuriated at Casey's callous attitude towards her missing child and because they want justice for Caylee. Some are there because, whether they like it or not, the Anthonys are now something of a Central Florida freak show and curious people want to see with their own eyes what these people look like. Deal with it. JMHO.

[marshmallow]

Well this is more economic charges. I have no clue about Caylee. I am beginning to wonder if anyone besides us are still caring about her :(

JMO

I'm not too sure some here are caring about Caylee :mad:

[joint-heir]

Thanks, could you give me a hint on which forum-title- there?

[day2day]

And A letter To Casey.
Dear Casey,
Where is your child?
How could you do what you have done with no remorse whatsoever?
Is life as great as you thought it would be now that you have done this to Caylee?
No one believes the lies you tell Casey no one not even your parents, they just don't want to lose another family member.
How could you hurt the greatest gift on earth that God has given you?
Was the stealing, parties, bar hoping, men, and drugs worth killing your child over?
Some day even you will have to pay.
How can you sleep at night knowing your child is laying where you put her..never to be found.
But i thik your wrong Casey they will find her and you will forever pay for what you have done.
She was innocent:rose:
She was BEAUTIFUL:rose:
She deserved so much more then you gave her.

GOD BLESS YOU CAYLEE:rose:
JMO


I hope she reads this. Thank you!

[5boxersmom]

Not only has Casey let Caylee down. She will not let her come home for a decent burial as she deserves. She is also letting her parents and brother make fools of themselves. One of them or all of them may end up in jail too because of her. They defend her, argue with people, lie on tv. Among other things. What does Casey do? She bakes brownies, surfs the net, gets to go to her attorneys office wearing her big sunglasses and wearing her backback. Like a 12 year old going to school.

This woman is cold. A souless con artist. I can only hope she spends the rest of her life in prison.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Unperson1984]

The protesters actually hurt the case. I don't know what they hope to accomplish. Do they think they can rush LE into charging her? Charging her before they have enough evidence to charge her to the highest degree? They are hurting the case.

When LE is ready, she will be arrested. All this will be history.

You're right, the protesters are making the case for a change of venue motion.

[Regina.Lampert]

I’m not sure if this video was ever posted, it’s from the end of July at NYC local fox affiliate. This is when I stopped having sympathy for Cindy...moo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvEhnzlobA


WOW! There she goes again blaming everyone but the person she should be blaming. She is a very unlikable person, imo.

[OneUp]

Frankly, if I were Cindy and wanted something hammered outside I'd send Casey out to do it. Everytime a protester showed up, I'd tell her "Casey, someone is here because of you - come deal with it sweetie."
That idea gave me my first laugh on this forum in a while.It would be fitting! I always lett my teen deal with the problems she creates...but enough said to explain why that will never happen.
Personal responsibility and facing the consequences + Casey= does not equate.
JMO.

[marshmallow]

Not only has Casey let Caylee down. She will not let her come home for a decent burial as she deserves. She is also letting her parents and brother make fools of themselves. One of them or all of them may end up in jail too because of her. They defend her, argue with people, lie on tv. Among other things. What does Casey do? She bakes brownies, surfs the net, gets to go to her attorneys office wearing her big sunglasses and wearing her backback. Like a 12 year old going to school.

This woman is cold. A souless con artist. I can only hope she spends the rest of her life in prison.

jmo

Caylee:rose:



great post!!!
thanks for putting focus back on Caylee!!! :rose:

[Kathlb]

Click on extended video on the right. The woman did say she was taking her child to the hospital. Cops called of course. Cindy did rush the car when it was all over. Woman and family reacted to Cindy's coming out around midnight by asking her why she is protecting her daughter and Cindy replied and it escalated.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

[marshmallow]

So if some of us don't care to participate in the hate grandparents party, that means we don't care about Caylee? No one has ever said they don't care about Caylee, and I take offense to your very judgmental statement.

jmho

I have no problem agreeing to disagree with you. I can respect your need to defend Cindy.

[frances1]

Well this is more economic charges. I have no clue about Caylee. I am beginning to wonder if anyone besides us are still caring about her :(

JMO


I agree. Have you noticed how far down the board this story has dropped in the last week or so?

[day2day]

I'm not too sure some here are caring about Caylee :mad:

Maybe this is part of the "script" to get peoples minds off the REAL situation..that there is a precious littleone GONE ..and noone is searching for her. Noone cares...it is heartbreaking to say the least!

[martha]

I really think the reason ca,ga,and lee or not out looking for caylee is they already know she is gone. They know she is dead. now all they have left is casey and they or going to do what ever they have to do to keep her from going to jail. I bet casey gets out of all this mess and they will make a lot of money on a book and tv deal. jmho. they have the lawyers to get them all out of what ever has happened. they had no money so they have got to get money from some where. both lawyers know there will be big money down the road. They will get their part of it too. jmho:rose:

Of that.. I have no doubt.What was cindy doing out in her yard that late at night? she should go out in her back yard if she feels the need to get out of the house.jmho:rose:

[day2day]

I agree. Have you noticed how far down the board this story has dropped in the last week or so?

She is being overshadowed by protestors and economic charges. I have to believe that LE is working hard to wrap this up and put the princess in her new castle. They have to be. jmo

[5boxersmom]

snip
Personal responsibility and facing the consequences + Casey= does not equate.
JMO.


Yep, I bet she has never had to deal with anything. I think it is time now. So sad her parents and brother don't see it that way.


Caylee:rose:

[rosejustrose]

The protesters actually hurt the case. I don't know what they hope to accomplish. Do they think they can rush LE into charging her? Charging her before they have enough evidence to charge her to the highest degree? They are hurting the case.

When LE is ready, she will be arrested. All this will be history.

I disagree. I don't think the protesters have any impact on any of the charges brought against Casey or any potential charges. They are problematic to the neighbors, for sure. There quality of life is suffering because the Anthonys refuse to play by the rules of decent society. They have a right to be there but they do not have a right to engage in confrontations nor do the Anthonys have a right to confront the protesters. JMHO.

ETA - They are bringing pressure to bear on the Anthonys. Maybe that'll be what it takes to get Casey to tell the truth - watching her family disintergrate.

[martha]

I wish everyone would stop going to the anthony house. stay away they or not going to cause the anthony to change their story and they sure or not going to break casey with anything they do or say. she is cold hearted jmho:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Because I'd venture to guess that to the majority of us on this board, the protesters are inconsequential. They're there -- whoopee. Who really cares except those who are trying to divert attention away from the real crime here, which is that Caylee is missing and very likely dead, and the last one to see her is inside that house, being coddled and enabled -- as per usual -- by her decidedly dysfunctional family.

I love your sensible posts:)

[Shellberry]

Now thats makes me wonder if Casey had a life insurance policy on Caylee...:eek:
I doubt casey did, but cindy/geo might have-Im always getting that mail for the gerber life ins. policy for my daugher -you dont have to be the parent to sign up for it, you can be a gp as well

I went to traffic school a few years ago, and the officer said that pedestrians do not have the right-of-way ... roads are for cars, not pedestrians ... except if they are in a crosswalk.

:shrug:


IMO
exactly=peds have the right of way in the crosswalk, not in the middle of the street.
I don't understand her doing that. She was out earlier in the day weeding with the bodyguard so why confront someone like that? jmo

Caylee:rose:
Im betting the other person saw her out-when she thought it was safe to go out and put the signs back up- I think that woman was just driving by -saw her and started yelling crap.

I'm not explaining myself very well (it's my age lol). I meant that when LE seized computers, did they seize every computer she had access to during the time period they are interested in. Otherwise she may have had logged on to a site/account using a friend's name and sent messages to someone. For example , I could go to my local library and log on to my h2b's myspace account and send a message to someone. Unless that person went to LE and told them, LE wouldn't know.
I see what you mean, I think, lol
I have no doubt casey had a few of her friends passwords for things online.

does someone have a link to a report of Lee's dui?
when did lee have a dui?
all he had were speeding tickets.
you can go to that orange county clerk site to see his list of offenses.


I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for these protesters. They are there solely to cause trouble, and when they get what they came for, suddenly they become victims? I don't think so.
exactly- they go to rile the family up hoping that it will make casey confess somehow.
or to get their 15 minutes.
you dont take children with you to protest-you leave them with someone or you wait until another time if no one is avail. to watch them


IMO/JMO/etc

[frances1]

Fair enough. I feel a great deal of sorrow and sympathy for George and Cindy, and Lee too. We are supposed to have unconditional love for our children. Maybe thats what they believe they are doing, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us.


The actions taken in dealing with the responsibility of raising children depend upon one's definition of "love", doesn't it?

[AlohaRainbow]

I feel bad for the Anthonys and their obvious loss of control, this could all stop if Casey would talk. That's where all the blame should be w/ the person who caused all of this. This is about Caylee, not Cindy and protesters mutual stupity. Too bad neither Cindy or the protesters were thinking about the missing little girl huh? I suggest we all put aside our bickering and remind ourselves of what this is about.
Caylee.
this whole out of control situation remnds me of a hurricane (hurricane casey?). casey is the "eye" of the hurricane, squarely (or roundly) in the calm center, not letting anything 'get to her', while her family and the protestors swirl and whirl around her in a reactive chaos.

[tiny paw-prints]

I think the expresssion "an accident waiting to happen" is pretty common and generally understood to mean that there is possible danger. Everything uttered by any of the Anthonys, including everyday expressions, seems to be taken to mean something sinister. A poster upthread mentioned how quickly tempers flare here, so I think it's a bit much to expect the Anthonys to remain calm no matter the provocation. It's a natural human response to get defensive when you feel you are under attack. imo


These events, each of them, occurring outside of the Anthony home certainly sheds some light about what goes on inside in the home. All of it might have something to do with Casey's "compelling reasons" as suggested by Baez.

[Magnum357]

Guess we saw the video different. I place blame on both the mother and Cindy personally. Two adults acting like children while a child lay on the ground in pain.

However I remember seeing Cindy up in the mothers face. She may have not know her son was hurt.

The mother exited the vehicle of her own volition---Cindy didn't yank her out of there. It appeared to me that when the shirtless guy tried to restrain the mother, the boy was injured. I have nothing good to say about Cindy but I just don't see this incident as being her fault. The child shouldn't have been there in the first place. IMO

[marshmallow]

I can't watch the video of CA and the protester, as we are blessed with dial-up.

Does CA appear to have been drinking?

There was talk at the beginning of this case the whole family likes to partake of the brew.

Did GA come out and try and restrain CA?

Is not consuming alcoholic beverage a part of Casey's bond?

Wonder if "they" ever just test her for alcohol/drugs at random while she is out on bond?

TIA
good questions :) The answers will be interesting to learn.
I personally feel Cindy was spoiling for a fight and so were the protesters. I blame everyone involved. The protesters for their actions, Cindy for her's.

I do question the need for bodyguards unless.... they're guarding those chairs lest anyone sneak over and move them. My lawn chairs went missing once, I hblamed the neighbor hooligans but it turned out to be the wind and I made them (the neighbors not the chairs) cookies as an apology.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Just a guess, but LE won't respond to a trespassing call unless there is a "No Trespassing" sign posted. So the protesters show up and Cindy goes outside to put the sign back up while George calls LE.


I agree with this but GA or CA should have called LE before the confrontation began in the street.IMO
Actually CA should have stayed in her yard and not confronted the woman by going to her car.

The Woman should not have had a child with her at this protest. The way things are going somebody is seriously going to end up getting hurt bad and I sure would hate to see it be a child that gets hurt severely over something the adults want to do.

I believe everyone has a right to protest but this has gotten way out of control. The neghbors and their children are suffering because of it and a child was hurt due to being there in the middle of it all.

If the protesters are not ON the Anthony's property then the Anthony's need to IGNORE them.

Like I said Cindy needs to learn sticks and stones *or ham'ers* make break bones but names will never hurt you.

She doesn't want these people calling her daughter names then she should get her daughter to tell the truth about what happened to Caylee or take the frustration and anger out on Casey not everyone else who is sick of the lies, denials and cover ups for Casey concerning where Caylee is and what happened to her. They don't have to believe Caylee is dead to try and get the truth from Casey or get her to talk to LE. If they are not supposed to talk to Casey about the case then convince her to talk to LE about it. one way or another they have choices and it seems they have all been making very bad choices since this nightmare began. Purposeful and intentional? Maybe. Maybe not. I know what i think and believe but none of us know for fact what is really going on with them or why they have said and done what they have.

I do know they could do more than wha they have to resolve this situation but they haven't for whatever reason. It's sick and sad and the one person who suffered and continues to suffer the most in all of this mess is Caylee. Whether one believes she is alive or believes she is dead at the hands of her mother. Without Casey talking and getting at the truth. Caylee is in a strange place and not where she should be and at risk of never being found alive or deceased.

The focus should be finding Caylee's location. Not the Anthony's Not the media. Not the protesters.

Caylee needs found and given dignity and justice. ALIVE or DECEASED. IMO

Hi Unperson. Always enjoy and respect your posts even when and if we don't agree. You are very intelligent. :seeya:

[TxLady2]

I just can't understand why anyone would want to keep making excuses for the Anthonys...:shrug:

Disagreeing with the protestors is not making excuses for the Anthonys. It is merely using logic. People complain because Cindy and George are not out searching for Caylee. But are these protestors out searching? Maybe one or two were on some searches, but not all.
Are they helping the case any? No.. not so far. Has it caused Casey to confess as to where Caylee is. No.
I'm not happy with how the Anthonys have handled this, but I'm not in their shoes, and I don't know how I would act. I would think that having media and protestors in front of my house 24/7, screaming and yelling insults and vile names would be enough to drive me insane. I might be threatening them with more than a hammer!
I know that they have the right to protest. But what this woman did makes no sense. She IGNORED her little boy while he was crying and rolling on the ground in pain, just to be in Cindy's face arguing and yelling. Is that a good parent? NO.
I sure don't make excuses for them, but I don't think they should be stripped of every right they still have, either. Such as going out in their front yard to mow the grass or weed the flower bed or put up no trespassing signs. IT'S THEIR YARD!!!!!! Why would anyone expect them to stay out of sight so that the protestors can be safe?? GOOD GRIEF!!! people.... where do we draw the line!!!!!!

[kitty1182]

Matha.. I think the better question is: What were complete strangers doing out in her yard late at night? Cindy certainly has more of a right and reason to be there than the strangers do.

Yes, but CA should have enough common sense to stay in the house and just call LE and let them handle it..

[rosejustrose]

They are only inconsequential because they aren't stomping all over your property. Casey is going to be tried for her crimes, in a court of law, not outside her parents house. The protesters are not judge and jury, and their presence there does absolutely nothing to help Caylee in any way, nor does it help LE with their investigation.

jmho

Yeah, and........? Most of us aren't harboring a murderer, especially the one that murdered a loved family member. Most of us aren't media w****s telling lies everytime a camera is put in front of us. Those protesters are most certainly helping Caylee, they are keeping Caylee's name and picture out there. Maybe, just maybe, someone will remember something that will put a needle in Casey's arm. JMHO>

[tisamystery]

I don't think Casey knows who Caylee's father was. Pure and simple.

[kitty1182]

I don't think Casey knows who Caylee's father was. Pure and simple.

I agree..IMO it could be one of many!!

[summer4meplz]

oh wow-is there a link for/to it?
I'd love to see it, I was wondering what part-if any-the oveido house plays in this.


imo/jmo


hi shel...sorry to be so late in responding....unexpected company tore me away from my computer...lol...ws....thread is titled oviedo house...

[Ladyhawk]

What was cindy doing out in her yard that late at night? she should go out in her back yard if she feels the need to get out of the house.jmho:rose:

I can't imagine that Cindy would be very comfortable in her backyard. Remembering that the dog hit in the yard...remembering that she and George went through the sheds and the yard looking for foul play. There was some reason they did that. What was it? What was it that possessed them to search the yard? Had George smelled something days before and when he got the car, it reminded him of the smell in the yard?

[rosejustrose]

They're hurting this case in many, many ways, yes - but little do they know, and if they did, little would they care about true justice.

True justice will be served when Caylee is found, given a proper burial and her own supposed mother gets the punishment she deserves. BTW, the protesters have absolutely nothing, repeat, absolutely nothing with the ongoing investigations into Casey's many, many crimes. JMHO.

[Shellberry]

I can't watch the video of CA and the protester, as we are blessed with dial-up.

Does CA appear to have been drinking?

There was talk at the beginning of this case the whole family likes to partake of the brew.

Did GA come out and try and restrain CA?

Is not consuming alcoholic beverage a part of Casey's bond?

Wonder if "they" ever just test her for alcohol/drugs at random while she is out on bond?

TIA
just like no firearms I thought there was no alcohol to be on the premises either? :shrug:

So you think that others should be able to dictate whether the Anthony family lives in peace?!?!

I think that's shameful.

Which I know of course you wouldn't feel that way if you were the one being badgered night and day - it's just ok if it's happening to someone else.

yes, protesters have a right to be there and protest peacefully-like the policeman told that one person the other day
They dont have a right to yell and scream their heads off and disrupt the neighborhood. (or park in the middle of the street, or just plop themselves down on someone elses lawn to catch a view)
which is exactly what is happening.
there were days when we didnt see anyone go out of the house, yet the people were still there-sitting for hours just waiting, as soon as someone steps out of the house they start up yelling stuff.




imo/jmo

[marshmallow]

Fair enough. I feel a great deal of sorrow and sympathy for George and Cindy, and Lee too. We are supposed to have unconditional love for our children. Maybe thats what they believe they are doing, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us.

my heart breaks for all the people who loved that little girl but as a parent myself I know that unconditional love (to me) means loving them even when they screw up not excusing them for it. My children know that I am by their side, thick or thin, good and bad but I won't stand in front of them to deflect them from the repercussions of their actions. Theyk now that should they break laws, my love will still be there whether they're home or in jail taking their punishment.

[rosejustrose]

what was casey's answer as to whether caylee went missing before or after the car ran out of gas??

"Before, definitely before." IIRC.

[nachomama]

Did ya'all hear Cindy ask the lady about Yuri Melich paying her to be there??
That was WAY out of line... :flamemad:

[Magnum357]

What was cindy doing out in her yard that late at night? she should go out in her back yard if she feels the need to get out of the house.jmho:rose:

It's her yard. The end.

[rosejustrose]

Because they have not been named as accomplices to any crime. In fact, the opposite. LE has repeatedly stated that they have cooperated. They have a right to live in peace. They didn't harm Caylee, they took care of her for her entire life. They loved their grandaughter more than ANYONE. They should be allowed to come to terms with their grief.

Then they need to thrown their lying, murdering daughter back in jail. That'll solve that problem, IMO.

[OneUp]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2080705/postsThank you for taking the time to find those articles for me Kathy! I appreciate it! However, I don't think they are the ones Advers was referring to. I've seen those, and was familiar with them ( re-read them to be certain I didn't miss something or misinterpret). No where does Lee mention that an accident was likley to happen.

Confrontation Erupts Between Lee Anthony, Protestors
http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

"Lee Anthony said that was what he had been waiting for.

"Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway," he said."

That is the complete quote from Lee in both articles. I see no mention of an accident, it could even be interpreted to mean he was laying in wait for a chance to run someone over purposely...or perhaps it was taken totally out of context and he meant he was waiting for the Easter Bunny to show up? LOL
I still haven't seen his quote referring to a "fear" of accidents happening. But I'd like to.
JMO, but I doubt there IS a quote of Lee saying he is concerned about anyone outside of the Anthony family.
I am still requesting that link from the OP. Please?

[kitty1182]

Did ya'all hear Cindy ask the lady about Yuri Melich of paying her to be there??
That was WAY out of line... :flamemad:

She's a real piece of work...Why doesn't she use that anger on her daughter and get some truth out of her?
IMO MOO

[Unperson1984]

OK Im a big person and will admit when I am wrong..and I am wrong.

After watching the extended video of the clash with Cindy and protester..Cindyu didnt have the hammer at the car and the protester was clearly in the wrong..that baby was screaming while the screaming was going on and the little boy was allowed to speak to Cindy like trash...OMG....and yes the mother saw the child on the ground screaming and sent the boy to check him. SICK.

I was totally wrong on this one.

Very classy!

[spiritwolf46]

Yeah, and........? Most of us aren't harboring a murderer, especially the one that murdered a loved family member. Most of us aren't media w****s telling lies everytime a camera is put in front of us. Those protesters are most certainly helping Caylee, they are keeping Caylee's name and picture out there. Maybe, just maybe, someone will remember something that will put a needle in Casey's arm. JMHO>

Their brand of 'unconditional love' has played a very large role in this tragedy. The Anthonys are in the midst of a tragedy brought on by one of their own, aided and abetted by the rest of them. Those are the facts.

Just because they never imagined it would 'go this far' doesn't give them a pass. And just because they have lost their precious granddaughter doesn't give them a pass for having done such a phenomenally poor job with their daughter.

Both are VERY good posts! Thank you! :seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

this whole out of control situation remnds me of a hurricane (hurricane casey?). casey is the "eye" of the hurricane, squarely (or roundly) in the calm center, not letting anything 'get to her', while her family and the protestors swirl and whirl around her in a reactive chaos.

Now that is just so symbolic..and hits this nail on the head!!1= I love those metaphors!

LMS:read:

[GrandmaGA]

OK Im a big person and will admit when I am wrong..and I am wrong.

After watching the extended video of the clash with Cindy and protester..Cindyu didnt have the hammer at the car and the protester was clearly in the wrong..that baby was screaming while the screaming was going on and the little boy was allowed to speak to Cindy like trash...OMG....and yes the mother saw the child on the ground screaming and sent the boy to check him. SICK.

I was totally wrong on this one.


It takes a big person to admit it.

The sad thing is if we didn't have that extened video we would not know the truth and the gossip would swirl.

[kitty1182]

It's her yard. The end.

Yes, but if you stir poo, it's gonna stink more, so why not just say inside in the middle of the night and call LE ? Why go out and stir the poo?

MOO

[rosejustrose]

You're right, the protesters are making the case for a change of venue motion.

Long before the protesters showed up the defense had a case for a change in venue. Cindy and all her appearances on TV come to mind. National media attention on this case. Blogs in all the local media, etc. The protesters are not solely responsible for a change in venue. Dang, waiting 31 days to report your child missing is enough to inflame an entire community. JMHO.

[Ionmhainn]

These events, each of them, occurring outside of the Anthony home certainly sheds some light about what goes on inside in the home. All of it might have something to do with Casey's "compelling reasons" as suggested by Baez.

I don't think it sheds one bit of light on anything, nor would I presume to know what goes on behind closed doors. I think it's safe to say that most people would have a "reaction" to ranting and screaming directed at them. Most people tend to "respond in kind." imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

So you think that others should be able to dictate whether the Anthony family lives in peace?!?!

I think that's shameful.

Which I know of course you wouldn't feel that way if you were the one being badgered night and day - it's just ok if it's happening to someone else.

Since when did CW start allowing posters such as yourself to give psychic predictions or a psychic analysis of other posters and their thoughts and actions or inactions? :read: I believe she stated the next person to talk about a poster personally and going off topic was going to be banned or lose posting privilges?? :read:

Please get back on topic and stop injecting your personal opinion of posters into your posts. Which should be about the case and the key players involved in it. Mainly Caylee who has yet to be found.

Where's Caylee? is the big question everyone is waiting for Casey Anthony to answer.

[rosejustrose]

Maybe this is part of the "script" to get peoples minds off the REAL situation..that there is a precious littleone GONE ..and noone is searching for her. Noone cares...it is heartbreaking to say the least!

IIRC, LE is still searching for Caylee. However, with all the flooding and storms in the area certain places are unsafe and inaccessible. I think we're all hoping and praying for little Caylee. But the key to assisting the searchers find her rests with the Anthonys, Casey in particular. If anyone has lost sight of little Caylee, it's them. JMHO.

[OneUp]

I'm positive you can find it on the links thread.Then you would be wrong. It doesn't exist there. When asked for a link to something stated as a quote or fact, I believe we are expected to CLEARLY state that it is our own interpretation or admit that we have made a mistake if we cannot supply the link. That sounds reasonable to me, I've had to admit to many mistakes in my life, & here on the board as well. It's really not a big deal to say "I've made a mistake, that was just my interpretation"...I'll just interprete an apology into your post and consider it all good. I'd prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to a fellow poster!
But please if YOU do find the link to back up your opinion of Lee's kind nature and concern, share it with us. I'm open to being proven wrong.
No biggie :shrug: you live and learn. This case is certainly something with a revelation around every corner.
JMO and all that.:)

[EGirl]

Because they have not been named as accomplices to any crime. In fact, the opposite. LE has repeatedly stated that they have cooperated. They have a right to live in peace. They didn't harm Caylee, they took care of her for her entire life. They loved their grandaughter more than ANYONE. They should be allowed to come to terms with their grief.

They should:

#1 Consent to lie detector test

and

B Quit spouting bs stories like "the kidnappers are being watched"

[Unperson1984]

Long before the protesters showed up the defense had a case for a change in venue. Cindy and all her appearances on TV come to mind. National media attention on this case. Blogs in all the local media, etc. The protesters are not solely responsible for a change in venue. Dang, waiting 31 days to report your child missing is enough to inflame an entire community. JMHO.

The protesters indicate the community's feelings anout the Anthony family. The community is the jury pool.

[kakax]

I can't watch the video of CA and the protester, as we are blessed with dial-up.

Does CA appear to have been drinking?

There was talk at the beginning of this case the whole family likes to partake of the brew.

Did GA come out and try and restrain CA?

Is not consuming alcoholic beverage a part of Casey's bond?

Wonder if "they" ever just test her for alcohol/drugs at random while she is out on bond?

TIA

Cindy isn't stumbling or slurring her words, I wouldn't think that she had been drinking just watching that.
GA did come out and try to restrain Cindy, while he was on the phone.
They do test Casey for alcohol/drugs randomly.
I have no idea if it is part of Casey's bond to not have alcholic beverages in the house.

I watched the video and it gives me the creeps. People yelling and screaming at Cindy isn't going to change the facts in this case. I wouldn't have a problem with the protesters if they handled themselves differently.

I don't understand why Cindy even came out there. It was after 11pm. The body guards could have put those signs back up before they left. I also don't understand why the protesters were there after 11, with their children. The police have stated there are times and conditions for these protests. You can't yell and scream after 11, I feel sure.

I think both parties are to blame.

I really wish LE had the goods on Casey to rearrest her.

[marshmallow]

OK Im a big person and will admit when I am wrong..and I am wrong.

After watching the extended video of the clash with Cindy and protester..Cindyu didnt have the hammer at the car and the protester was clearly in the wrong..that baby was screaming while the screaming was going on and the little boy was allowed to speak to Cindy like trash...OMG....and yes the mother saw the child on the ground screaming and sent the boy to check him. SICK.

I was totally wrong on this one.

I am impressed with you :rose:

[Pag Boi]

I believe you are correct. Here my mother wanted to call the police on my nieces abusive ex husband and was told to put up signs first.



What did the signs say? Keep out wife beater? I hardly think an abusive relative on private property threatening harm is the same thing as protesters. In the US, We are allowed to gather in so-called peaceful protest (altho the requirements vary from state to state)

Your niece needed a restraining order. Please don't tell me that FL makes you put up signs to warn the creep that is legally prevented from approaching his victim?

[nutterbutter]

Matha.. I think the better question is: What were complete strangers doing out in her yard late at night? Cindy certainly has more of a right and reason to be there than the strangers do.

I think Cindy came out looking for trouble.moo

[hamebone]

Those mothers in that video are as bad as Casey in my eyes. Hollaring and screaming while that baby is scared to death crying and allowing that little boy to scream things at Cindy...what a lesson he was taught. Geeesh.

I agree with the protesters rights..but not that..no way.

ITA... all these protesters are doing is adding fuel to the flames.

AND, Cindy's not all that innocent either, why confront a mob.

She isnt going to change their minds and vice-versa.

[rosejustrose]

So you think that others should be able to dictate whether the Anthony family lives in peace?!?!

I think that's shameful.

Which I know of course you wouldn't feel that way if you were the one being badgered night and day - it's just ok if it's happening to someone else.

Huh? Are you not following this case? The reasons they are being "badgered" night and day is because they are harboring and enabling a murderer. They are supporting and spreading her lies. It's not happening to anyone else because most people don't coddle to sociopathic murderers. There will be no peace in that house until they send the princess back to jail and come to terms with what their daughter has done to their grandchild. End of story, IMO.

[nutterbutter]

I just want lil Caylee found because this baby is on mind night and day.
exactly right.

mo

[kitty1182]

I didnt see the protesters in their yard..Yes I would have stayed inside had I been Cindy and George.

I didn't see them in the yard either...I would have stayed inside too, but I guess some people like to stir poo.LOL

MOO IMO

[rosejustrose]

Fair enough. I feel a great deal of sorrow and sympathy for George and Cindy, and Lee too. We are supposed to have unconditional love for our children. Maybe thats what they believe they are doing, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us.

I don't know your definition of unconditional love but mine is doing what is best for your child. In this case, the best thing they can do is make Casey own up to what she has done. That wouldn't mean they don't love her it would mean they don't like what she's become. JMHO.

[nachomama]

Did ya'all hear Cindy ask the lady about Yuri Melich paying her to be there??
That was WAY out of line... :flamemad:

I just listened again and the name she said was Kathi Belich not Yuri Melich ..

[kitty1182]

I'd be scared I'd go out to confront one and they'd shoot me.

LOL, me too..

[Pag Boi]

They should:

#1 Consent to lie detector test

and

B Quit spouting bs stories like "the kidnappers are being watched"

#1 Have the Anthonys been asked to take lie detector test? What good will it do? It is not admissible as evidence in court. What if they both pass with flying colors? How does that change their actions?

B They have quit spouting stories for the most part. You can't unring the bell. They want to believe their child. They are doing so at all costs. They are ruined. They know it. Casey knows it. JMO

[Magnum357]

Yes, but if you stir poo, it's gonna stink more, so why not just say inside in the middle of the night and call LE ? Why go out and stir the poo?

MOO

It makes for good footage and keeps the people glued to those cams 24/7 entertained.

[OneUp]

Very true, Ionmhainn! :beer:I don't think anyone has questioned the meaning of that phrase Savannah. I just asked for a link to wherever Lee stated it. I can't find one, the OP can't seem to find one, and no one else has offered up a link with any quote containing that phrase.
It's an easy mistake to make, I'm sure we all tend to remember paraphrased statements rather then exact quotes. It should just be clarified that it is not intended to be taken as a quote, but as the posters interpretation or opinion. As others have mentioned, that's how rumors get started.
I believe it has been mentioned to me when I have clearly been asking a question or stating an opinion. I am now extra careful to mention that I am questioning or opining and one should not take a particular statement as fact.I'm sure it makes the few facts easier for all to follow when I make things clear in my posts, and don't present opinion as fact.
JMO.

[kitty1182]

It makes for good footage and keeps the people glued to those cams 24/7 entertained.

I got mine on...:beer:

[Acorn]

Did ya'all hear Cindy ask the lady about Yuri Melich paying her to be there??
That was WAY out of line... :flamemad:

No, I didn't. Yuri? No waay. He's my home skillet.

[Ionmhainn]

I just want lil Caylee found because this baby is on mind night and day.

Amen.......

[Acorn]

I just listened again and the name she said was Kathi Belich not Yuri Melich ..

Oh, TG. whew

[rosejustrose]

just like no firearms I thought there was no alcohol to be on the premises either? :shrug:



yes, protesters have a right to be there and protest peacefully-like the policeman told that one person the other day
They dont have a right to yell and scream their heads off and disrupt the neighborhood. (or park in the middle of the street, or just plop themselves down on someone elses lawn to catch a view)
which is exactly what is happening.
there were days when we didnt see anyone go out of the house, yet the people were still there-sitting for hours just waiting, as soon as someone steps out of the house they start up yelling stuff.




imo/jmo

My understanding is that the woman who had the confrontation with Cindy was NOT a protester. She was just one of the many curious driving by. Stand to be corrected.

[OneUp]

She didn't tend to his needs because she was too busy confronting Cindy. That was more important than her own child. Definitely a candidate for 1st runner up for 'Mother of the Year'.
LOL, I am amused by how you chose to put that!..I bet i have a GREAT candidate for Miss Congeniality!
JMO...sorry if the levity offends.

[marshmallow]

I'd be scared I'd go out to confront one and they'd shoot me.

as would I. Especially if I'd had death threats. But that's me and I'm a bit of a scardy cat I'm afraid.

[hamebone]

I'd be scared I'd go out to confront one and they'd shoot me.


and something like that very well could happen...some nut gets drunk or drugged and decides to defend caylee honor...in their drug induced mind. I dont blame the A's for having body guards there.

I wish that the A's had hired a mouthpiece from the get go...it might not of gotten to this point..... BUT Cindy has to have a say or even the last word in things.

[KKKKKKatie]

Just watched the extended version. They are ALL disgusting. Every last one of them! IMO

[WillowInFlight]

Ah ... I knew that was coming.

It's not about having perfect children. It's about teaching them not to lie, and to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. It's also about getting professional help for a child who, despite your best parenting efforts, is heading down a wrong path.

In the case of the Anthonys, from what I've seen, they couldn't parent effectively because they, too, aren't married to the truth, nor do they take responsibility for the trouble they create.
THIS IS THE POST OF THE DAY!!!!! Thank you.

[jessjam]

Their brand of 'unconditional love' has played a very large role in this tragedy. The Anthonys are in the midst of a tragedy brought on by one of their own, aided and abetted by the rest of them. Those are the facts.

Just because they never imagined it would 'go this far' doesn't give them a pass. And just because they have lost their precious granddaughter doesn't give them a pass for having done such a phenomenally poor job with their daughter.

I couldn't of said it better myself. I agree 100%

[LouBLou]

It sickens me to see people taking their children along on their 'protests'. I can't believe someone would expose their child to all the foul language, aggression etc. Allowing a small child to stand outside the house shouting 'baby killer' is just wrong for so many reasons. In what way could any of this help to find Caylee? Rant over, hi everyone I'm new here!