Caylee Anthony 09-14-08 A.M thread

[bluwaters]

Well, it seems Mark Nejame's PR strategy is faring less well than he expected. :rolleyes:
What was he thinking when he got involved with this bunch?
Where is he this AM? Out on any talk shows telling America what good citizens these Anthony's are. God, family, and apple pie all the way!

[Velouria]

Disgusting,

Round here in Texas this sh** don't tolerate. We have city ordinance and noise laws.

:(

BG

Hi Neighbor. :seeya: I agree wholeheartedly.

Both sides need to knock it off.

I wonder if TruTV is there taping a new series - "Hammer Patrol" ?
It's right up there with the worst of the trash reality shows.

[desmom]

I've heard theories that possibly Casey and Melinda Duckett placed their babies where alligators could get them. I am wondering what you all think.
Women usually use poison, ie., a quiet means of killing. So how would a "violent" burial accompany that means of death.

Yet she seems so confident in her stance, indicating to me that she knows Caylee will never be found.

What do you all think?

I have to believe if Melinda left Trenton and Casey left Caylee near water, they did it because it was a beautiful and peaceful place and they never even considered the gators.

I know there are evils out there, like Diane Downs shooting her children or Susan Smith watching her children drown, but I do not have to believe anyone would purposefully leave their babies for gators.

jmo

[Rayosunshine]

I did. Rather than tend to the little boy rolling in the street holding his arm, she lights a cigarette and goes to yell at Cindy who is now on the sidewalk in front of her house. Again, awesome. :rolleyes:

Would that, could that be child neglect.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[morson]

Given that these protests are occurring, it really matters little what I think of them. But I do believe that the Anthonys are responsible for the continuation of the circus--and now it is like a snowball rolling downhill, and the Anthonys have the power to stop it. ...if they made some intelligent choices/decisions (which, personally, I do not think that they have done, at least for the last 22 years!)

What would be happening now

IF, when the media had first set up camp on their doorstep, they had just ignored them or said "No comment"

IF, when the protestors first showed up, they did not stretch tape across the sidewalk and the easement, engaged in discourse, or accosted anyone

IF, Cindy had not run to every camera she could find and spewed as many or more lies than Casey

IF, the Anthonys had appeared to be cooperating with TES?

I think that the answer would be peace and quiet on Hopespring Drive, but that is just my opinion

[kitty1182]

ROFLMAO:lol:

Yeah, that was good..:D

[johnielee333]

Mornin all..
It is an everyday thing with the Anthony's. IMO they love the spotlight. She had NO business out there at that time of night unless she was lookin for a fight.
Note to the Anthony's:
The monster you are searching for is RIGHT under your roof. Maybe if you were as angry with her as you are at the protestors, this whole nightmare would be over. JMO

i go out into my front yard or back yard in the middle of the night pulling weeds,picking up garbage,shovel snow & hammer my alarm sign into the ground.
i'm a night owl. if i had my way, i would mow the grass in the middle of the night too. maybe cindy is a night owl too.

[rosejustrose]

I think there's plenty o' blame to go around. Both the protester lady and Cindy were wrong. What were either of them thinking???

Obviously, they weren't thinking.

[day2day]

Has anyone thought that maybe if the media stopped camping out on the Anthony's doorstep that the protesters would stop trying to get their 15 minutes of fame and Cindy would stay in the house? Of course, then "we" couldn't see what is going on either! I'm as guilty as the rest of you at watching that webcam, but at least I am doing it from my home and not screaming obscenities in other people's faces.

I wonder when the movie is made (you KNOW it will be) if they will show thousands of people in their homes at their computers? :D

One poster got it right with "Who let Cindy loose?" but got it al wrong about the ABC's of Florida. That wasn't very nice. All states have child abusers and child killers, rapists, drugs, etc. The only thing FL has different is people who don't know how to use voting machines and ya'all know that!

There is a simple answer to all of this. Maybe if the Anthony's were ACTUALLY out searching for Caylee instead of pounding signs and hangin crime scene tape, they wouldn't be there to get so frustrated.

OR better yet. Tell Casey either you cooperate with LE or you will be going back to jail.

simple ...real simple imo

[msgatorslayer]

Has anyone thought that maybe if the media stopped camping out on the Anthony's doorstep that the protesters would stop trying to get their 15 minutes of fame and Cindy would stay in the house? Of course, then "we" couldn't see what is going on either! I'm as guilty as the rest of you at watching that webcam, but at least I am doing it from my home and not screaming obscenities in other people's faces.

I wonder when the movie is made (you KNOW it will be) if they will show thousands of people in their homes at their computers? :D

One poster got it right with "Who let Cindy loose?" but got it al wrong about the ABC's of Florida. That wasn't very nice. All states have child abusers and child killers, rapists, drugs, etc. The only thing FL has different is people who don't know how to use voting machines and ya'all know that!

Oh yes. The Casey Cam is fueling this freak show, IMO. Most, if not all the signs, aren't even pointed at the Anthony home. They're looking straight at the cam.

Anyone following the case knows you can get on cam by going over there. Even when the cam is down and not live, if you come, they'll flip the switch.

:lol:About the voting machines.

[rosejustrose]

What was he thinking when he got involved with this bunch?
Where is he this AM? Out on any talk shows telling America what good citizens these Anthony's are. God, family, and apple pie all the way!


Only problem is they used rotten apples to make the pie, IMO.

[spageddy]

Has anyone thought that maybe if the media stopped camping out on the Anthony's doorstep that the protesters would stop trying to get their 15 minutes of fame and Cindy would stay in the house? Of course, then "we" couldn't see what is going on either! I'm as guilty as the rest of you at watching that webcam, but at least I am doing it from my home and not screaming obscenities in other people's faces.

I wonder when the movie is made (you KNOW it will be) if they will show thousands of people in their homes at their computers? :D

One poster got it right with "Who let Cindy loose?" but got it al wrong about the ABC's of Florida. That wasn't very nice. All states have child abusers and child killers, rapists, drugs, etc. The only thing FL has different is people who don't know how to use voting machines and ya'all know that!

Please forgive me for that ABC comment. WHat I am trying to say is that I know folks who feel that way about Fla. I disagree as do many others In our circle. We try to educate these mis-informed folks, whenever the topic comes up, but when they are seeing new coverage like this- well it doesn't help the argument. I apologize if anyone thinks I dislike Florida. That is Very far from the truth

[johnielee333]

You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.

yep i agree with ya.

[day2day]

i go out into my front yard or back yard in the middle of the night pulling weeds,picking up garbage,shovel snow & hammer my alarm sign into the ground.
i'm a night owl. if i had my way, i would mow the grass in the middle of the night too. maybe cindy is a night owl too.

do you have crime scene tape in your yard? (hides your hammer) :seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

For the record I just watched the video between Cindy and the protester and Cindy shouldnt have gone to the car ..BUT that protester PIZZED me off when she walked off an dleft her kid roilling in pain in the road..WTF is wrong with these people?

Bet that protester gets a spot on NG. If so, she better turn it down.

Isabelle,
Ray;sMom

[rosejustrose]

What was he thinking when he got involved with this bunch?
Where is he this AM? Out on any talk shows telling America what good citizens these Anthony's are. God, family, and apple pie all the way!

Media attention and $$$$$$$$$$.

[kOOkie1]

..I think Cindy cant help herself she is easily provoked thats for sure!! ..I also think some of the protesters that come out for a drive by know it..soo there ya go. Either wayy.. not good...I think Cindy has always had to get emotional and defend Casey when she's been caught in lies, ya know? I personally feel it would be much better served for the Anthony's to have quiet in that house with their thoughts. ..Something has to get thru to these people!!! (imo)..they gotta be feelin some paranoia thinking the house is bugged..lol

[Velouria]

i go out into my front yard or back yard in the middle of the night pulling weeds,picking up garbage,shovel snow & hammer my alarm sign into the ground.
i'm a night owl. if i had my way, i would mow the grass in the middle of the night too. maybe cindy is a night owl too.


Thanks to the media, Cindy's front lawn is so lit up she can get a LOT of work done at night. :)

[Joan Weiss]

Given that these protests are occurring, it really matters little what I think of them. But I do believe that the Anthonys are responsible for the continuation of the circus--and now it is like a snowball rolling downhill, and the Anthonys have the power to stop it. ...if they made some intelligent choices/decisions (which, personally, I do not think that they have done, at least for the last 22 years!)

What would be happening now

IF, when the media had first set up camp on their doorstep, they had just ignored them or said "No comment"

IF, when the protestors first showed up, they did not stretch tape across the sidewalk and the easement, engaged in discourse, or accosted anyone

IF, Cindy had not run to every camera she could find and spewed as many or more lies than Casey

IF, the Anthonys had appeared to be cooperating with TES?

I think that the answer would be peace and quiet on Hopespring Drive, but that is just my opinion:beer:

That is why people are so angry, imo.

[cantstandnuts]

ITA, and I think Cindy was responsible. Didn't she see the child there, or was she blinded by her anger? jmo

FGS, the mother of that child knew he was there and it is her job to protect him! She didn't do that. Poor thing rolling around on the ground in pain and she keeps right on fighting. Disgusting. How is Cindy responsible for the actions of this woman? She invited her to drop by, I suppose, just so they could fight.

[st777jo]

IMO, yesterday morning, Cindy picking weeds, no protesters. Midnight, protesters come by, Cindy decides to fix her signs. No brainer to me.

[st777jo]

FGS, the mother of that child knew he was there and it is her job to protect him! She didn't do that. Poor thing rolling around on the ground in pain and she keeps right on fighting. Disgusting. How is Cindy responsible for the actions of this woman? She invited her to drop by, I suppose, just so they could fight.

I believe the woman was in her car, leaving. Cindy came to her car.

[day2day]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Joan Weiss]

You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.So are you saying everybody should not go out at that hour of the night? like a curfew? :confused:

[impartial]

"Come on George the protesters are here..its time to RUMBLE" (grabs her hammer and away she goes)


I hate that the protestors are there, I hate that they are bringing their children and staying until midnight, way past their child's bedtime ...

But, your post ... it cracked me up. :)


IMO

[bluwaters]

Yep. Silly me for thinking George would be the one...

Cindy attacked that woman, and had a dangerous weapon in her hand. If that were anyone else, they'd have been arrested, imo.
I need to watch it again because I didn't see Cindy touch her.
*blu wonders how she finds herself defending CA*
*needs to take a break*

[Joan Weiss]

What? I'm just stating my opinion. What's with the rolleyes?Define "redneck."

[SandyO]

I know that I am visiting Jack more than is customary since getting caught up in this!
:hat:

Yep, "Vino" is my new middle name.

[day2day]

IMO, yesterday morning, Cindy picking weeds, no protesters. Midnight, protesters come by, Cindy decides to fix her signs. No brainer to me.

She was so frustrated and she had to take it out on somebody? Surely she can't let Casey see her anger. So she grabs the hammer and goes after the protestor. She sure did JUMP back when the woman opened that door!:lol:

[Joan Weiss]

I need to watch it again because I didn't see Cindy touch her.
*blu wonders how she finds herself defending CA*
*needs to take a break*blu, if someone wades into your open car door and gets in your face, you wouldn't consider that a threat to your well being?

[kitty1182]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

This is the first time i've seen that pot hole in the road..:read:

[cantstandnuts]

I believe the woman was in her car, leaving. Cindy came to her car.

Point is, that woman is responsible for her child, yet left him rolling around on the ground.

[msgatorslayer]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I see the lawn mower is also out. Gardening time at the Anthony's!!!Maybe Casey is in the backyard. Tackling those pesky bamboo sprouts.

[rosejustrose]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Thanks for the link. You know, if they would take down the tape and the signs, they would attract a lot less attention. That bright yellow tape is light a beacon for protestors. JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

FGS, the mother of that child knew he was there and it is her job to protect him! She didn't do that. Poor thing rolling around on the ground in pain and she keeps right on fighting. Disgusting. How is Cindy responsible for the actions of this woman? She invited her to drop by, I suppose, just so they could fight.As I said befooorrre... looked to me like she wasn't aware that her child was hurt. She was being restrained. imo

[day2day]

Point is, that woman is responsible for her child, yet left him rolling around on the ground.

I agree. But he wouldnt have been rollin on the ground if Cindy hadn't rushed the car?! :shrug:

[johnielee333]

I did. Rather than tend to the little boy rolling in the street holding his arm, she lights a cigarette and goes to yell at Cindy who is now on the sidewalk in front of her house. Again, awesome. :rolleyes:

right, didnt even care the little boy got hurt.

[bluwaters]

I think there's plenty o' blame to go around. Both the protester lady and Cindy were wrong. What were either of them thinking???
Thank you marshmallow! :)
That's my position, stated better than I could.

[summer4meplz]

This is the first time i've seen that pot hole in the road..:read:

that's not a pothole, it's a manhole...i remember someone asking about how hard it is to lift one of those the other day.....eww gruesome thought...but this case is nothing but gruesome...

[rosejustrose]

I see the lawn mower is also out. Gardening time at the Anthony's!!!Maybe Casey is in the backyard. Tackling those pesky bamboo sprouts.

Do you think she can find a neighbor willing to lend her a shovel:rolleyes:

[Pruddennce]

IMO, I have not forgotten who caused this situation: LP and friends.

this is what happens when people insert themselves into a tragedy for personal gain....and it was for personal gain.

Caylee Anthony, a missing child, has all but been forgotten because of them.

laywers, guns and money.....that is what this has been reduced to...sensationalism caused by outside forces.

the anthonys were doing their 'thang' without much fanfare before 'they' came along and IMO would be suffering silently in their home with no 'concerned protestors' invading their space...IMO they would have continued speaking to the media, on a much lower exposure level, because after all, this case, as many before them, would have faded into secondary reporting with a POI behind bars awaiting court action....

the anthonys, mainly cindy, has become a deflector, by choice AND by design...its her persona....if Casey A were behind bars, that support, her voice. would not have gotten continued airtime because there wouldnt be all of this nonsense to report.

a child is still missing, but the focus would have remained on the POI, where it belongs, today and every day. but now, its the 'made for tv movie' antics of all involved...except for the POI. The anthonys are scapegoats, all because of a bailbond that should have never been.

I think if any blame is to be afforded, go back to the source. I wouldnt be surprised if the 'source' is behind rallying people to come to their home under the guise 'doing something good'....

people are easily baited when it comes to freedom of expression, and some without much thought process as to what they are really doing...which is NOTHING to further the cause of finding a missing child.

they are on the wrong pavement. and those pavement dwellers wont be reaping any money from this....they are puppets...easily instigated.

however, its a ching ching for future earnings for those that furthered this insufferable situation...the source.

IMO IMO

best regards,
Pru

[cantstandnuts]

I agree. But he wouldnt have been rollin on the ground if Cindy hadn't rushed the car?! :shrug:


If he wasn't there in the first place, it couldn't have happened. The mother is responsible and Cindy isn't that child's mother.

[Rayosunshine]

DCF? That's ridiculous. Clearly, Cindy caused this situation, imo. She should be arrested, particularly when she uttered the threat about using the hammer. imo

I didn't pay attention well enough, who uttered the first words?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[day2day]

I see the lawn mower is also out. Gardening time at the Anthony's!!!Maybe Casey is in the backyard. Tackling those pesky bamboo sprouts.

:lol:...Now now ...you should know by now that Casey is online searching for Caylee-:punch: whatsthematterwithya!!

[st777jo]

Point is, that woman is responsible for her child, yet left him rolling around on the ground.


When I get to see the total video, then I'll make a decision. Cindy had no right going to that woman's car with a hammer. jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Do you think she can find a neighbor willing to lend her a shovel:rolleyes:

Daddy's home. She can have access to the family shed, lmao.

[kitty1182]

that's not a pothole, it's a manhole...i remember someone asking about how hard it is to lift one of those the other day.....eww gruesome thought...but this case is nothing but gruesome...

I meant man hole..LOL I was the one asking the other day..In fact I emailed OCSC and ask them if any had been checked out..Hubby says most are heavy, but some are made of alumimun(sp)..

[Joan Weiss]

Believe me, I hail from redneck central. LOL

It just looked to me like the woman came out of the van like, "whatcha gonna do, huh?"

That's JMO. I didn't mean to get anybody's panties in a wad.

I'm friendly... not trolling.... Just stating my opinion, which I hope is welcome here.:seeya:You don't even know this woman. You are basing your opinion on a derogatory term.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redneck

[desmom]

IMO..........

The protesters are not there for their concern over Caylee. They are there to provoke the Anthonys. These are probably the same people that would encourage a jumper by chanting "Jump" or load up their children to go look at the blood and gore of a 5 car pile up. These people are not there for Caylee!!

The Anthonys need to learn to ignore them. They need to go about there day to day business. If Cindy wants to work in her front yard, she should wear a set of head phones to block them out. All of them should not respond to anything being said by the protesters.

And one of the 2 groups need to back off about the trespassing signs and yellow tape. We all know the sidewalk and grassy area between the sidewalk and street is city property. The Anthonys putting up the tape and signs around this area provokes the protesters. The protesters know when they stand in that area or tear down the signs and tape, it provokes the Anthonys.

This is not the Hatfield and McCoys. This is about a missing 3 year old child.

jmo, imo and throwing in a moo or two for good measure!

[day2day]

If he wasn't there in the first place, it couldn't have happened. The mother is responsible and Cindy isn't that child's mother.

I agree that the child shouldnt be there. I also believe it is way past time for the Anthony's to drop the freakin hammer and get to searchin for Caylee. jmo

[cantstandnuts]

When I get to see the total video, then I'll make a decision. Cindy had no right going to that woman's car with a hammer. jmo

That woman's child and his welfare should take priority and it didn't. You can't really get any plainer than that. Simply, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[Joan Weiss]

If he wasn't there in the first place, it couldn't have happened. The mother is responsible and Cindy isn't that child's mother.Oh, OK. Everyone is free to do whatever they want, because children are only the parent's responsibility. :rolleyes:

Cindy deliberately approached the car. She didn't care about that child. Hmmm...where has that come up before?

imo

[bluwaters]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

~It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor~

[spicedtea]

I don't think it ridiculous at all to involve DCF. A child was injured and ignored by the brawling adults all around. I wonder about the sobriety of the woman driver as well. Cindy did not injure the child.

The adults with the child were clearly not concerned with his welfare.
Everyone makes choices. It seems to me that adults made very poor decisions last night, on both sides, and a child was injured in a violent confrontation.

Yeah,I totally agree. It was appalling,that poor child should never have been subjected to such an altercation,so-called "protest", in the first place. But what made it even worse was that brown haired woman pulling the kids arm to lift him part way,then just let him go and fall to the street as she walked away leaving the poor boy was writhing in agony!

I will say though that the mother was pushed by the shirtless guy into the door as he tried to restrain her so she technically wasn't the one responsable for it closing. But thank God the child got out of the vehicle when he did or it would have been his head crushed!:flamemad:

Does it matter that she didn't directly push the door on the boys arm when she incited the fight in the first place? If they were getting ready to drive off when Cindy got to the vehicle,then why was the boy standing in the open door like that? Would the mom have just up and pulled off not bothering to notice the boys dangerous position???

I'm sorry but that "mother" IS no better than Casey,IMO. She was not taking care of her child and he could have been seriously hurt or possibly even killed had he not jumped down and out of the vehicle just in the nick of time.

Kinda ironic that she's screaming baby killer at someone and her own child gets hurt and almost wound up worse as a result of her own behavoir/lack of giving a darn about her own sons safety.

I hate feeling so angry at a protester,you'd think they were all there in support of Caylee but the truth is,many seem to be there to find a reason to get on tv or show their crazy selves off. (not all of course,but obviously some)

This has got to stop, for the kids sake.

[impartial]

That woman's child and his welfare should take priority and it didn't. You can't really get any plainer than that. Simply, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.



Yep.

What did she tell him before they got there ... Hey honey, we're going to go to a house where the mother murdered her 3 year old and yell baby killer to the grandmother.

Nice bedtime story for that child.

IMO

[Rayosunshine]

Her child was with her, they were getting in the car to leave. What's not to understand about that? imo


Was the mother of the child getting ready to leave or was she being restrained, when she was pushed or fell against the door with the child's arm in it? I didn't think the mother of the child had her back to Cindy as if she were getting in her car to leave.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[cantstandnuts]

I agree that the child shouldnt be there. I also believe it is way past time for the Anthony's to drop the freakin hammer and get to searchin for Caylee. jmo


We agree. I further believe they shouldn't allow Casey to be holed up in their house, either, but I can't pretend I'd know exactly what I'd do in a similar situation so I'm having a hard time seeing them as anything but flawed people under extreme stress who aren't handling it well.

[st777jo]

IMO..........

The protesters are not there for their concern over Caylee. They are there to provoke the Anthonys. These are probably the same people that would encourage a jumper by chanting "Jump" or load up their children to go look at the blood and gore of a 5 car pile up. These people are not there for Caylee!!

The Anthonys need to learn to ignore them. They need to go about there day to day business. If Cindy wants to work in her front yard, she should wear a set of head phones to block them out. All of them should not respond to anything being said by the protesters.

And one of the 2 groups need to back off about the trespassing signs and yellow tape. We all know the sidewalk and grassy area between the sidewalk and street is city property. The Anthonys putting up the tape and signs around this area provokes the protesters. The protesters know when they stand in that area or tear down the signs and tape, it provokes the Anthonys.

This is not the Hatfield and McCoys. This is about a missing 3 year old child.

jmo, imo and throwing in a moo or two for good measure!

I'll agree with some of this. Except for the protester part. I don't know why they are there. But if I was there, it would be to protest for the Anthony's bringing Casey back for the second time, knowing how people feel. Most, IMO, want to know where is Caylee, and only Casey knows for sure.

[MyrDawn]

George is watering...all is well at the Anthony's---jmo
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I see the lawnmower is out of the garage, too. Will we get a show today? :)

[Joan Weiss]

That woman's child and his welfare should take priority and it didn't. You can't really get any plainer than that. Simply, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.Yeah, everybody should not go anywhere they want because they might get hurt. Good tactic to control the population. Curfews all around. Guess I have to stay in the house, not safe out there...imo :rolleyes:

[mattncats]

Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

If it were me, I would have said "I am not guilty, I want an attorney present" I think they will try to throw it out because of that. But, there is a lot more damaging testimony than that.

[kitty1182]

~It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor~

I wish we had a cam in the back yard too..I know, I'm sick..:tongue:

[Shellberry]

I need to watch it again because I didn't see Cindy touch her.
*blu wonders how she finds herself defending CA*
*needs to take a break*

ditto-cindy didnt touch her, in fact she was walking away while the older son was trying to restrain his mother-looks like that is how the door got shut on the little boy.

looks to me like the older boy, trying to push his mother back might have bumped her into that back door.

not cindys fault.
she was outside late, probably thinking everyone was gone-safe for her to go outside. I doubt they were sitting out there trying to catch a glimpse of her, that person was probably driving by and saw her outside.


imo/jmo

oh=good day everyone, I suppose this is the only news for today?
how did we miss that last night, we had our cams on while that was going on.


:rose: caylee

[Rayosunshine]

Imo, they were just trying to find her missing child, and they were beginning to see how arduous a task that was going to be. I don't think they did anything inappropriate. I don't know FLA law. imo

Agree with you, but I think more interviews have been done on LE's turf with audio/video set up. Those may or may not be seen when the case is in trial.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[summer4meplz]

I meant man hole..LOL I was the one asking the other day..In fact I emailed OCSC and ask them if any had been checked out..Hubby says most are heavy, but some are made of alumimun(sp)..


i thought that's what you meant....if you lift one...is it just a straight shot down to the drain pipe? i've never looked in one before....

[day2day]

KING: And you're saying the authorities are not looking for that baby-sitter and the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.

In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-743074.html

So Cindy saw the car? Hmmmm...

[Joan Weiss]

Was the mother of the child getting ready to leave or was she being restrained, when she was pushed or fell against the door with the child's arm in it? I didn't think the mother of the child had her back to Cindy as if she were getting in her car to leave.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomI'm done with this. You see what you want to see. :seeya:

[KKKKKKatie]

So you think that the mother slammed the door on her child on purpose??? WHERE do you get that?

It was an accident. Should the child have been there? NO, but to say that this was endagering a minor ON PURPOSE....well....I will not get banned over it.

:rose: FOR CAYLEE

I must live in outer space because some to the things posted about this even I don't see at all on the video :shrug:

The women was not in her driveway....Cindy came down the driveway to yell at her and walked all the way across the street to confront the woman in her car. The woman did not close the door on the child....it got shut when the man restrained the woman.

I don't like the protesters much...I don't think they are accomplishing anything but making the situation worse....but the video doesn't lie. No matter how some here want to spin it

[~jomomma~]

~It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor~

can you say 'hammer'?



sure....i knew you could




one thing that disgusts me is when parents use disgusting cuss words, especially the 'F' word infront of kids.

did i hear the mother right in saying 'what the F you gonna do about it'?

[rosejustrose]

Oh, OK. Everyone is free to do whatever they want, because children are only the parent's responsibility. :rolleyes:

Cindy deliberately approached the car. She didn't care about that child. Hmmm...where has that come up before?

imo

IMO, Cindy has been out of control since she made that 3rd 911 call reporting Caylee kidnapped/stolen. She's been over the edge and now her lunacy is started to manifest itself in her attacks on the protestor. JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

KING: And you're saying the authorities are not looking for that baby-sitter and the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.

In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-743074.html

So Cindy saw the car? Hmmmm...Why would Cindy be looking in a check cashing place? Why would she be driving by when she was on vacation?

[johnielee333]

I agree, Savannah...!! They are baiting her... To be honest, if Casey were MY daughter, she wouldn't have a hair left in her head at this point... But, it is outrageous, IMO, that these protesters are allowed to bring little Children to the "Riots"...!! This has gone waaaaaay beyond a "peaceful protest".... LE needs to step in...

Poochie

yep i agree with you.

[bluwaters]

blu, if someone wades into your open car door and gets in your face, you wouldn't consider that a threat to your well being?
Well, of course, but I wouldn't have been in front of house, not even on public property, screaming at Cindy in the first place.

What would you arrest Cindy for?
maybe -
disorderly conduct?
disturbing the peace?
Maybe both Cindy and the woman protester should be charged.

[MyrDawn]

So are you saying everybody should not go out at that hour of the night? like a curfew? :confused:

At midnight, screaming and cursing at Cindy? What about the neighbors? Does the right to protest trump their right to sleep?

[cantstandnuts]

Oh, OK. Everyone is free to do whatever they want, because children are only the parent's responsibility. :rolleyes:

Cindy deliberately approached the car. She didn't care about that child. Hmmm...where has that come up before?

imo

You sure do love that rolling eyes icon, huh?

You're really stretching in saying that this is Cindy's fault, IMO. This woman brought her child to this situation. It is her responsibility. She is responsible for her child and I would wager you'd be saying the same thing if this were another case not involving Cindy Anthony, who seems to be to blame for everything where you're concerned. IMO

[summer4meplz]

Why would Cindy be looking in a check cashing place? Why would she be driving by when she was on vacation?


Do we know very much about this vacation ...do we even know for sure if it happened, and if so when?

[day2day]

~It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor~

Wont ya be my neighbor! :D They have to tidy up before the "prayer vigil"...I sure hope they dont drop the f-bomb tonight. **sighs**

[rosejustrose]

Agree with you, but I think more interviews have been done on LE's turf with audio/video set up. Those may or may not be seen when the case is in trial.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


IIRC, the Universal interview was the last time Casey spoke with investigators. She lawyered up right after that and they can't interview her without her lawyer's consent. So, they only spoke to her twice, IIRC, in her home and at Universal. JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

i thought that's what you meant....if you lift one...is it just a straight shot down to the drain pipe? i've never looked in one before....Somehow I don't see Casey lifting a manhole cover...

[johnielee333]

Apparently Cindy has no concern for her neighbors to be out hammering at midnight. IMO

you can h ammer quitely.

[day2day]

You guys, I'm going to go outside now and harvest my corn and visit with my new flock of baby peeps that are growing. They are so cute! Will one of you come put a cam out here so you can watch me attack the bugs in my yard with a hammer? Shall we do this at midnight, full moon and all that? You wont need your flash then....AND we can all put on the Same Tshirts? And Khaki bermuda shorts? Come ON! I know you will want to watch......:D (sigh) No one interested. OK I know I know I havent killed anyone, the draw just isnt there! Well, I think they all Love to stand outside and be on that Cam. How often is it a family is on Camera 24/7 like Ozzy for free! I'd shake that cam down too if I were them. How is this legal actually can someone explain this to me? Because honest if y'all did try to set up a live cam in the orchard or field or trees next to me to watch me, I'd sue.


you have baby PEEPS? my littleone has ONE. His name is peeper...and is just gettin his feathers in. He is SO adorable.....

[Shellberry]

I agree. But he wouldnt have been rollin on the ground if Cindy hadn't rushed the car?! :shrug:

at the beginning of that video though, cindy was in the driveway and that lady was out of her car.
she probably was driving by, hopped out when she saw cindy.
imo, she started it not cindy.

but of course we only see a part of what happened, so who knows.


imo/jmo/etc


anyhoo
has anyone seen the globe for sale at any of their local stores yet?

[Joan Weiss]

Do we know very much about this vacation ...do we even know for sure if it happened, and if so when?That's why the car wasn't picked up earlier. I don't have time to find that info for you. imo

[Armchairdet]

That woman's child and his welfare should take priority and it didn't. You can't really get any plainer than that. Simply, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.




I agree. I would not involve a small child in that. There are other ways to teach them about the constitution. I don't believe all these parents are trying to teach their children about the ammendments to the constitution by bringing them there, as has been suggested before. The Anthony family have rights too. The grandparents have no charges against them.

If a person believes a house contains one or more 'baby killers', all the more reason to keep the child away.

[Joan Weiss]

You guys, I'm going to go outside now and harvest my corn and visit with my new flock of baby peeps that are growing. They are so cute! Will one of you come put a cam out here so you can watch me attack the bugs in my yard with a hammer? Shall we do this at midnight, full moon and all that? You wont need your flash then....AND we can all put on the Same Tshirts? And Khaki bermuda shorts? Come ON! I know you will want to watch......:D (sigh) No one interested. OK I know I know I havent killed anyone, the draw just isnt there! Well, I think they all Love to stand outside and be on that Cam. How often is it a family is on Camera 24/7 like Ozzy for free! I'd shake that cam down too if I were them. How is this legal actually can someone explain this to me? Because honest if y'all did try to set up a live cam in the orchard or field or trees next to me to watch me, I'd sue.You'd lose. imo

[KKKKKKatie]

at the beginning of that video though, cindy was in the driveway and that lady was out of her car.
she probably was driving by, hopped out when she saw cindy.
imo, she started it not cindy.

but of course we only see a part of what happened, so who knows.


imo/jmo/etc


anyhoo
has anyone seen the globe for sale at any of their local stores yet?

looked to me like she was in the street in front of her dirveway....not in her driveway.

[kitty1182]

i thought that's what you meant....if you lift one...is it just a straight shot down to the drain pipe? i've never looked in one before....

I'll have to ask hubby...
He did tell me the other day when I asked about how heavy they were, he said most were heavy, but the alumimun lighter...
He works for the City..LOL

[summer4meplz]

at the beginning of that video though, cindy was in the driveway and that lady was out of her car.
she probably was driving by, hopped out when she saw cindy.
imo, she started it not cindy.

but of course we only see a part of what happened, so who knows.


imo/jmo/etc


anyhoo
has anyone seen the globe for sale at any of their local stores yet?

I have, I actually picked it up to buy it....(Gawd, I'm losing it) saw the look on my husband's face, and put it back....the entire article is online, I go so many places I don't remember where...probably ws??

[Rayosunshine]

So you think that the mother slammed the door on her child on purpose??? WHERE do you get that?

It was an accident. Should the child have been there? NO, but to say that this was endagering a minor ON PURPOSE....well....I will not get banned over it.

:rose: FOR CAYLEE

I am seeing that the child's mother went to the Anthony's on purpose and brought her child with her. By bringing her child with her I think she was endangering her child.

Of course, many would see it as the mother just happened to be passing by and was attacked by Cindy. NOT

Funny, the video does not start when the woman first arrived. It only shows what happened after her arrival, so we don't know what happened before the video was shot.

I did notice that Cindy turned her back and walked away, as the protester continued her tirade. I guess many would call that freedom of speech. I call it harassment.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

At midnight, screaming and cursing at Cindy? What about the neighbors? Does the right to protest trump their right to sleep?I don't think that would be a high priority for LE. It's not high priority in my neighborhood. That's OK, it gives me license to make noise, too. ;)

[aubrey04]

I just finished reading the other thread and I wonder if Casey (or her mother) didn't look up Hopkins in the phone book and pick the wrong one. I wonder what her purpose was in calling. Did Cindy make her call to call her bluff on that particular lie? it is a possiblity

Marsh.. I hope you're still here... I reading the beginning of the thread. Anyway, I have been DYING to know the answer to that. It might be a trivial piece of the puzzle, but it's still a piece that just doesn't fit right.

Why did she call the Jeff Hopkins parents? What was the purpose in calling Jeff period...?

[kitty1182]

I see only one of the cars in the garage..

[johnielee333]

Anyone heard anything about Caseys IQ?? From what her parents are showing it doesn't rate very well. IMO I heard she never finished High School; am I correct in that?
Love the fruit not falling far from the tree comment. Makes sense.

not that i'm standing up for casey but just because someone doesnt finish High School doesnt mean that they dont have a norm or high IQ.

[Regina.Lampert]

IMO, I have not forgotten who caused this situation: LP and friends.

this is what happens when people insert themselves into a tragedy for personal gain....and it was for personal gain.

(snipped).

however, its a ching ching for future earnings for those that furthered this insufferable situation...the source.

IMO IMO

best regards,
Pru

Well, since it's the anthonys who are purported to have a 1.5 million dollar media/book/film deal in the works, I would guess that any and all little confrontations they can instigate would go into the material for the book/film/interview deal.

The Padilla's on the other hand have a $50,000 reward for information about Caylee Anthony.

[Tiger]

I am seeing that the child's mother went to the Anthony's on purpose and brought her child with her. By bringing her child with her I think she was endangering her child.

Of course, many would see it as the mother just happened to be passing by and was attacked by Cindy. NOT

Funny, the video does not start when the woman first arrived. It only shows what happened after her arrival, so we don't know what happened before the video was shot.

I did notice that Cindy turned her back and walked away, as the protester continued her tirade. I guess many would call that freedom of speech. I call it harassment.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
You also call it "funny" :no:

[day2day]

at the beginning of that video though, cindy was in the driveway and that lady was out of her car.
she probably was driving by, hopped out when she saw cindy.
imo, she started it not cindy.

but of course we only see a part of what happened, so who knows.


imo/jmo/etc


anyhoo
has anyone seen the globe for sale at any of their local stores yet?


I dunno..IF George and Cindy were out trying to find Caylee-none of this would happen. JMO

[rosejustrose]

You sure do love that rolling eyes icon, huh?

You're really stretching in saying that this is Cindy's fault, IMO. This woman brought her child to this situation. It is her responsibility. She is responsible for her child and I would wager you'd be saying the same thing if this were another case not involving Cindy Anthony, who seems to be to blame for everything where you're concerned. IMO

This situation is a direct result of the actions of the Anthony family, each and every one of them. Casey for "losing" Caylee, Cindy for spinning more lies in the media than Casey, George for making bogus statements about knowing and watching the people who have Caylee, and Lee for the ridiculous high fives with Casey and for almost running down people when he pulled into his parents driveway. This "average" American family is the reason for the circus like atmosphere. OMG, even NeJame, during his media blitz, admitted the Anthonys realized that their actions contributed to this mess. Cindy is not to be blamed for everything. IMO, she didn't cause global warming.:)

[Rayosunshine]

ITA, and I think Cindy was responsible. Didn't she see the child there, or was she blinded by her anger? jmo

Would it be Cindy's fault that the mother of the child brought her child to the scene with her? I think that child's mother did that of her own free will, and it was not a good choice, it was a dangerous one.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[summer4meplz]

That's why the car wasn't picked up earlier. I don't have time to find that info for you. imo


I don't expect you to search, lol, it just isn't mentioned much...iirc it was to celebrate cindy's 50th birthday....so I would assume casey and Caylee had the house to themselves during that time...no, wait...it must have been in July....Caylee was already gone by then and casey wasn't living at home....

[SandyO]

Given that these protests are occurring, it really matters little what I think of them. But I do believe that the Anthonys are responsible for the continuation of the circus--and now it is like a snowball rolling downhill, and the Anthonys have the power to stop it. ...if they made some intelligent choices/decisions (which, personally, I do not think that they have done, at least for the last 22 years!)

What would be happening now

IF, when the media had first set up camp on their doorstep, they had just ignored them or said "No comment"

IF, when the protestors first showed up, they did not stretch tape across the sidewalk and the easement, engaged in discourse, or accosted anyone

IF, Cindy had not run to every camera she could find and spewed as many or more lies than Casey

IF, the Anthonys had appeared to be cooperating with TES?

I think that the answer would be peace and quiet on Hopespring Drive, but that is just my opinion

And even right up until last night, Cindy's demeanour is all wrong and is gaining her no friends. If she had only appeared to be a sympathetic figure ---- if she had cried and said, "Oh, please help me, my heart is broken", she would have gained so much support from all those present and those viewing via audio tape. But no. Cindy has to be confrontational and ugly. It's ruined her every time when she had a chance to get sympathy and support.

[Acorn]

I agree. But he wouldnt have been rollin on the ground if Cindy hadn't rushed the car?! :shrug:

Torts: But for Cindy's actions, the event would not have occurred.

imo

[msgatorslayer]

KING: And you're saying the authorities are not looking for that baby-sitter and the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.

In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-743074.html

So Cindy saw the car? Hmmmm...

Spin, spin, spin, and as usual not making any sense.

If there was no devious reason for Casey dropping that car off, she would have done what most people do when they run out of gas. Have TonE take her to the nearest gas station for, um, gas.

[Armchairdet]

I dunno..IF George and Cindy were out trying to find Caylee-none of this would happen. JMO

I don't know if it would happen or not. Even if they were searching, they have a right to be at home some of the time. Nobody seems to be calling the family 'missing child non searchers'.

[Rayosunshine]

I believe the woman was in her car, leaving. Cindy came to her car.

I wonder how many videos of this altercation exist. Would like to see them all. Was the webcam on when it happened and did anyone here see it from the start to the end. That is, when the car first arrived.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Shellberry]

looked to me like she was in the street in front of her dirveway....not in her driveway.

cindy was walking down her driveway, the lady was in the road.
I didnt say the lady was in her driveway.


imo/jmo

[day2day]

I don't know if it would happen or not. Even if they were searching, they have a right to be at home some of the time. Nobody seems to be calling the family 'missing child non searchers'.

But Armchair...they could end this easily. It is really simple.
Either Casey cooperates with LE to help find Caylee home OR she goes back to jail. :shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

I need to watch it again because I didn't see Cindy touch her.
*blu wonders how she finds herself defending CA*
*needs to take a break*

Looked like Cindy had a roll of yellow tape in her hand, but it also looked like a blow-dryer to me, lol.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[aubrey04]

Awwww, from that link:
"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

The article also says "The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

Screaming and cursing? Sounds like those protesters purposely wanted to get Cindy irate. But, why do they continue to take their little kids there? And, so late at night! So they can curse in front of them? :cuss:


Did you see the video? The woman was screaming and pushed the door in.. and the kids arm was in the door. You could CLEARLY see it in the video.. then the child falls to the cement crying out in pain, but the mother was so wrapped up screaming the F-word at Cindy (and Cindy saying it back)..that she didn't even notice her child was hurt.

The children need to be left at home. Enough if enough. I am NOT fan of Cindy Anthony and if that child hadn't have been there, I would be more on the side of the protester but c'mon. Lee almost ran over a woman w/a child in her arms the other day.

This is a hostile environment and someone is going to get hurt eventually.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

[johnielee333]

Her child was with her, they were getting in the car to leave. What's not to understand about that? imo

the kid shouldnt of been with her in the first place while she was going there to protest.

[SandyO]

And even right up until last night, Cindy's demeanour is all wrong and is gaining her no friends. If she had only appeared to be a sympathetic figure ---- if she had cried and said, "Oh, please help me, my heart is broken", she would have gained so much support from all those present and those viewing via audio tape. But no. Cindy has to be confrontational and ugly. It's ruined her every time when she had a chance to get sympathy and support.

Sorry for all that underlining, folks. I tried to edit, then delete, and ended up making a big mess. I'm still not accustomed to this new software!

[Joan Weiss]

ditto-cindy didnt touch her, in fact she was walking away while the older son was trying to restrain his mother-looks like that is how the door got shut on the little boy.

looks to me like the older boy, trying to push his mother back might have bumped her into that back door.

not cindys fault.
she was outside late, probably thinking everyone was gone-safe for her to go outside. I doubt they were sitting out there trying to catch a glimpse of her, that person was probably driving by and saw her outside.


imo/jmo

oh=good day everyone, I suppose this is the only news for today?
how did we miss that last night, we had our cams on while that was going on.


:rose: cayleeCindy wasn't walking away. George pulled her away. Cindy also said "if you call her that one more time, I'm going to use it."

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

[Rayosunshine]

I agree. But he wouldnt have been rollin on the ground if Cindy hadn't rushed the car?! :shrug:

And the child wouldn't have been rolling around on the ground if the mother hadn't taken him there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[day2day]

Spin, spin, spin, and as usual not making any sense.

If there was no devious reason for Casey dropping that car off, she would have done what most people do when they run out of gas. Have TonE take her to the nearest gas station for, um, gas.


Well we both know Casey isn't the normal 22 year old. That being said I am beginning to believe none of them have told the truth. It just isn't in them. It is heart-breaking !!:rose:

[KKKKKKatie]

cindy was walking down her driveway, the lady was in the road.
I didnt say the lady was in her driveway.


imo/jmo

sorry Shell...I mis-read your post. You didn't say that. I apologize! :)

[Joan Weiss]

the kid shouldnt of been with her in the first place while she was going there to protest.I think that speaks to the fact that the protester didn't expect an altercation. imo

[Armchairdet]

But Armchair...they could end this easily. It is really simple.
Either Casey cooperates with LE to help find Caylee home OR she goes back to jail. :shrug:

Well, I agree with that. I am just saying I don't know that even that will stop drive by insults etc.

Each person has a different opinion on what will satisfy them. So, I don't know that that woman wouldn't have gone by the house even if Casey was in jail.

All I am saying is if I know yelling things at Cindy will make her angry I have choices. I can not yell the things, or I can yell them and see what happens. In either event I would not take a child there. It would be scary to hear your parent in an argument with a stranger even if their was no real physical threat. IMO

[impartial]

I don't know if it would happen or not. Even if they were searching, they have a right to be at home some of the time. Nobody seems to be calling the family 'missing child non searchers'.


I imagine if they were out searching for a live Caylee, they would get pretty much the same reaction they are getting in front of their home.

And I don't understand why they are so vilified for having hope that Caylee is still alive.

Why would a stranger screaming at them make them lose their hope?

:shrug:


IMO

[Rayosunshine]

I did. Rather than tend to the little boy rolling in the street holding his arm, she lights a cigarette and goes to yell at Cindy who is now on the sidewalk in front of her house. Again, awesome. :rolleyes:

Katie, which video shows the mom lighting the cigarette. There is a video referenced very early in the thread and I couldn't get that to open - all I got was a blank screen. Was it that one? It was CFNnews 13. I may go to their site to try and see it.

Thanks,

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[KKKKKKatie]

Did you see the video? The woman was screaming and pushed the door in.. and the kids arm was in the door. You could CLEARLY see it in the video.. then the child falls to the cement crying out in pain, but the mother was so wrapped up screaming the F-word at Cindy (and Cindy saying it back)..that she didn't even notice her child was hurt.

The children need to be left at home. Enough if enough. I am NOT fan of Cindy Anthony and if that child hadn't have been there, I would be more on the side of the protester but c'mon. Lee almost ran over a woman w/a child in her arms the other day.

This is a hostile environment and someone is going to get hurt eventually.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

she did not push the door closed...it got closed when they guy restrained her. She did not reach back and close it.

[Tiger]

i think that speaks to the fact that the protester didn't expect an altercation. Imo

ita!!.....

[bluwaters]

You also call it "funny" :no:

I read that "funny" as in "odd."

Sorry, Isabelle, I don't mean to speak for you. That's my interpretation of what you wrote.

[Acorn]

Cindy wasn't walking away. George pulled her away. Cindy also said "if you call her that one more time, I'm going to use it."

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

Where I'm from, they call that assault with a weapon.

moo

[Kathlb]

This will never happen, but what I would like to test is if the protesters went away, the online cams went away and the media went away. The only news on the situation with the Anthonys would be text with NO video. We would know what is happening by reading and no watching and no interviews, etc. In my mind, that would cause Cindy to self destruct quicker than anything. jmho :D

[Joan Weiss]

I don't expect you to search, lol, it just isn't mentioned much...iirc it was to celebrate cindy's 50th birthday....so I would assume casey and Caylee had the house to themselves during that time...no, wait...it must have been in July....Caylee was already gone by then and casey wasn't living at home....Right, it was in July. IIRC, Cindy spent most of her vacation at home, she and George just went somewhere for a couple of days. imo

[bluwaters]

Torts: But for Cindy's actions, the event would not have occurred.

imo
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[MyrDawn]

IIRC, the Universal interview was the last time Casey spoke with investigators. She lawyered up right after that and they can't interview her without her lawyer's consent. So, they only spoke to her twice, IIRC, in her home and at Universal. JMO.


Per the arrest affidavit, they also spoke with her at their central operations after the time at Universal. They'd had some phone calls about her and Caylee from people that knew them and the LE gave Casey one more chance to change her story at that time. When she didn't, they arrested her:
http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

[Armchairdet]

I imagine if they were out searching for a live Caylee, they would get pretty much the same reaction they are getting in front of their home.

And I don't understand why they are so vilified for having hope that Caylee is still alive.

Why would a stranger screaming at them make them lose their hope?

:shrug:


IMO

Kinda my point. Darned no matter what they do. Nothing they do will satisfy everyone. I can understand having hope. There is a lot I don't understand about what they are doing in public. But I know nothing about what is going on in private. I am not super fond of a lot of things I have seen Cindy, George, or Lee do. But I am not ready to throw them to the wolves.

IMO

[rosejustrose]

This will never happen, but what I would like to test is if the protesters went away, the online cams went away and the media went away. The only news on the situation with the Anthonys would be text with NO video. We would know what is happening by reading and no watching and no interviews, etc. In my mind, that would cause Cindy to self destruct quicker than anything. jmho :D

:lol: Good one.

[johnielee333]

do you have crime scene tape in your yard? (hides your hammer) :seeya:

no but she still has a right to go out into her own yrd whenever she feels like it,day or night.

[Acorn]

she did not push the door closed...it got closed when they guy restrained her. She did not reach back and close it.

I agree. They moved in tandem and when they both made contact with the vehicle, that caused the door to shut.

[KKKKKKatie]

This will never happen, but what I would like to test is if the protesters went away, the online cams went away and the media went away. The only news on the situation with the Anthonys would be text with NO video. We would know what is happening by reading and no watching and no interviews, etc. In my mind, that would cause Cindy to self destruct quicker than anything. jmho :D

she would just blame everyone for not careing about Caylee anymore. IMO It will happen one day in the not to distant future....it will all go away.

[Shellberry]

Somehow I don't see Casey lifting a manhole cover...

if she had crowbar she might be able to.
they arent that big around down here, I never lifted one, so I dont know how heavy it is, but they are smaller than ones Im used to seeing up north.


imo/jmo

[rosejustrose]

Per the arrest affidavit, they also spoke with her at their central operations after the time at Universal. They'd had some phone calls about her and Caylee from people that knew them and the LE gave Casey one more chance to change her story at that time. When she didn't, they arrested her:
http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

Thanks for the clarification! Appreciate the info.

[Acorn]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

:D

Which one would you label as Cindy?

[Joan Weiss]

Where I'm from, they call that assault with a weapon.

mooExactly. Now that they have her statement on tape, if there's a next time and she uses it, bye-bye Cindy. imo

[KKKKKKatie]

I agree. They moved in tandem and when they both made contact with the vehicle, that caused the door to shut.

Thank you! I was begining to think I was seeing things with all the spin going on LOL

[desmom]

KING: And you're saying the authorities are not looking for that baby-sitter and the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.

In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-743074.html

So Cindy saw the car? Hmmmm...

I have heard about the purse in the front seat, but could not remember who said it or where it came from. TY~

IMO, the reason Casey left her purse in the front seat of the car and did not drive it into a lake is because she wanted someone to steal that car. She needed someone's fingerprints besides her, her family or her friends inside that car. I believe Casey was watching the car and as soon as it was missing, she would report a carjacking with Caylee inside the car. I also believe she saw the car being towed away. That had to be an Oh Cr** moment because now she had to dream a new scenario. jmo

[OneUp]

You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.Hi SS! I'm addressing this via your post, because I think you actually will take the time to read it...and to realize that it's a general statement and not an argument with you in particular. OKIE?

It is really buggin me to hear posters say "the protesters" time and again, especially when criticizing them. You all do realize they aren't a single uniform organism,right? There are probably some there for photo ops and to take a picture in front of the house for some type of weird vacay. souvenir...BUT there are also people there who are engaging in a peaceful demonstration of grief and frustration (or trying to anyway). Now, of course, guess which ones the news writes about and interviews? it's just like the same occurance every time a tornado comes through this area...The News picks some crazy-eyed lady in her nightgown and curlers to interview instead of a boring Joe.
Point being, it is unfair to lump all of the folks outside the home into one group. It's not an organized demonstration, and likely none of these people even know eacj other. The Doll people do not =the car bump mother who does not equal Berniece's owner whodoes not equal last nights yellers. Diffierent people, different intentions, different behaviors. Some of them do cross the line IMO...even ALOT of them, but some of them have a pretty legit way of choosing to express their POV. If you want to lump them all together, that's your perogative. I prefer to address the individual demonstrators and their individual actions myself. It just seems a bit more fair and even handed to me.
Just as some here object to lumping Cindy and her behavior into the same kity as casey and her criminal guilt, I object to addressing the demonstrators as a whole. When you do that you throw the baby out with the bathwater...
JMO.

[Shellberry]

sorry Shell...I mis-read your post. You didn't say that. I apologize! :)

np-I thought maybe I mistyped, I had to go back and reread, lol

[johnielee333]

Define "redneck."

jeff foxworthy (or whatever his last name is) can Define "redneck."

[MyrDawn]

I don't think that would be a high priority for LE. It's not high priority in my neighborhood. That's OK, it gives me license to make noise, too. ;)

We old fa*ts like our sleep around here. :D

[Joan Weiss]

Spin, spin, spin, and as usual not making any sense.

If there was no devious reason for Casey dropping that car off, she would have done what most people do when they run out of gas. Have TonE take her to the nearest gas station for, um, gas.Or at least get some gas and come back for it...

I'd be danged if I'd leave my car and be without wheels for a reason like that. Doesn't make sense. Judge Judy says if it doesn't make sense, it's not true. imo

[Regina.Lampert]

Cindy wasn't walking away. George pulled her away. Cindy also said "if you call her that one more time, I'm going to use it."

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

Exactly right. cynthia anthony thinks she can shut people up, take away their freedom of speech. She is in for a huge surprise when this gets into the courtroom. Remember the crowds surrounding the scott peterson courthouse? This will pale in comparison, no matter if they change the venue or not.

If I lived in the area I would have a huge sign that asked cynthia and george how they could let Caylee down this way? I am very glad that I'm tucked safely away up here in Maryland.

[Joan Weiss]

jeff foxworthy (or whatever his last name is) can Define "redneck."Satire-humor. imo. I don't like it...

[Texas48]

Some of them sure don't have their priorities straight, that's for sure!
JMO
IMO...they do not have their priorities in order but it seems they have no life at all. Yes..it is their right to protest...but why are they putting their children at risk for who knows what. These are parents screaming at other parents??????

[impartial]

Or at least get some gas and come back for it...

I'd be danged if I'd leave my car and be without wheels for a reason like that. Doesn't make sense. Judge Judy says if it doesn't make sense, it's not true. imo


To me, leaving the car because it ran out of gas is the most damning piece of evidence LE has thus far.

IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Exactly right. cynthia anthony thinks she can shut people up, take away their freedom of speech. She is in for a huge surprise when this gets into the courtroom. Remember the crowds surrounding the scott peterson courthouse? This will pale in comparison, no matter if they change the venue or not.

If I lived in the area I would have a huge sign that asked cynthia and george how they could let Caylee down this way? I am very glad that I'm tucked safely away up here in Maryland.

what I don't understand is why she goes out there when they are there? Why not wait to fix the signs after they leave? The only reason I can think of is to have some kind of confrontation IMO

[Shellberry]

Cindy wasn't walking away. George pulled her away. Cindy also said "if you call her that one more time, I'm going to use it."

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

I didnt see that vid- I was talking about the other one with cindy in the driveway-she was walking away after she said "when caylee comes home you're going to go to he!!"


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Exactly right. cynthia anthony thinks she can shut people up, take away their freedom of speech. She is in for a huge surprise when this gets into the courtroom. Remember the crowds surrounding the scott peterson courthouse? This will pale in comparison, no matter if they change the venue or not.

If I lived in the area I would have a huge sign that asked cynthia and george how they could let Caylee down this way? I am very glad that I'm tucked safely away up here in Maryland.ITA. Coercion and threats to shut people up does not work in this country. imo

:patriot:

[aubrey04]

the kid shouldnt of been with her in the first place while she was going there to protest.

Right. And this happened at 12 midnight? Why was the kid out so late anyway?

I have watched the video a few times and it is very clear that Cindy is rushing the woman.. the woman is screaming back going towards Cindy.. some really skinny white guy with no shirt runs to hold the woman back and pushes her into her car door, which slams into the boys arm.

Then he hits the cement screaming and crying.. and Cindy & the woman continue to throw the F-bombs out..drowning out the poor kids cries. Cindy & George walk away... Finally some other lady who is with them.. notices the kid on the ground.. she grabs him to pull him up but then lets go of him and he falls back on the ground crying.. Rather than comfort the child or alert the female protester and man.. She goes and yakks it up with them.

I have nothing against the protesters, just the ones who bring their children there.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

[bluwaters]

I imagine if they were out searching for a live Caylee, they would get pretty much the same reaction they are getting in front of their home.

And I don't understand why they are so vilified for having hope that Caylee is still alive.

Why would a stranger screaming at them make them lose their hope?

*snipped shrug icon*


IMO
They are not vilified for having hope that Caylee is alive.
They are scorned because they tell lies, use people and then discard them, and behave in a coarse and vulgar manner.
Unfortunately, they are not very likable people.
:punch::no:hammer
imho

[Rebel Rouzer]

I'm thinkin that Cindy is focusing on the protesters because if she focuses on what is really going on and Casey and Caylee then reality will settle in and she will have to face it and she is doing everything to avoid that at this time. IMO I don't know I could be way off base. Who knows. :shrug:

She *Cindy* does need to learn sticks and stones
*or hammers* will break bones but names will never hurt you. :no:

[st777jo]

Exactly right. cynthia anthony thinks she can shut people up, take away their freedom of speech. She is in for a huge surprise when this gets into the courtroom. Remember the crowds surrounding the scott peterson courthouse? This will pale in comparison, no matter if they change the venue or not.

If I lived in the area I would have a huge sign that asked cynthia and george how they could let Caylee down this way? I am very glad that I'm tucked safely away up here in Maryland.


My thoughts exactly.

[Rayosunshine]

Oh, OK. Everyone is free to do whatever they want, because children are only the parent's responsibility. :rolleyes:

Cindy deliberately approached the car. She didn't care about that child. Hmmm...where has that come up before?

imo

What I'l like to know is why did Cindy approach the car?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[kitty1182]

Looks like GA is talking to some man now..

[MyrDawn]

IMO...they do not have their priorities in order but it seems they have no life at all. Yes..it is their right to protest...but why are they putting their children at risk for who knows what. These are parents screaming at other parents??????

IMO, maybe they should toss the whole bunch, including the protesters and the Anthony's, in the drunk tank for the night next time they get into it. They'll either cool off or kill each other. Problem solved!
:biggrin:

[bluwaters]

Where I'm from, they call that assault with a weapon.

moo

even without contact?
not being snarky, I thought contact is required for assault but could well be wrong.

[OneUp]

And she has the same pretty mouth as Casey. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. IMO. It doesn't matter how great a lawyer they hire as long as Cindy keeps acting like this..people are going to think badly of her.
I say-anger management classes for the whole bunch..but thats just me!No doubt! Good luck Nejame, good luck. You're going to need it!
I'd walk the first time something like this happened were I representing them. IMO, it was he who sent the BG's. in an attempt to take away the excuse of 'defendig our property' and feeling threatened from George and Cindy ( And Lee too apparently). I'm sure he thought if they had no legit reason to "need" to go out then they wouldn't. Little did he know, huh?
IMO, every instance of trouble starts with one of this family actively seeking attention, TROLLING for it if you will. Just like us, sometimes you get a het up demonstrators and an Anthony gets the fight they're looking for. I agree with those who said, why cause trouble? You KNOW demonstrators will yell if you go out front...stay inside and let the hirelings do the work. For Pete's sake! They have a back yard, and obviously aren't accustomeed to hanging out in the front...thus they missed all the notices fro the tow yard for two weeks.
JMO....don't dish it out if you can't take it!:cuss:
...I learned that in kindergarten!

[trich]

Spin, spin, spin, and as usual not making any sense.

If there was no devious reason for Casey dropping that car off, she would have done what most people do when they run out of gas. Have TonE take her to the nearest gas station for, um, gas.



Exactly....
Any normal person would have asked TonE to take her to get some gas or to bring it with him.
Being she lied , again, about her Dad coming to get the car and take care of it.
That is obvious since the car stayed there until the tow truck was called.

It is just one lie after another where there are witnesses to the fact ...there is no way to get out of them
she can not accuse everyone else of lying it just will not work.

[rosejustrose]

They are not vilified for having hope that Caylee is alive.
They are scorned because they tell lies, use people and then discard them, and behave in a coarse and vulgar manner.
Unfortunately, they are not very likable people.
:punch::no:hammer
imho

I totally agree.

[Rayosunshine]

I'm done with this. You see what you want to see. :seeya:

Thanks.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

Cindy wasn't walking away. George pulled her away. Cindy also said "if you call her that one more time, I'm going to use it."

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

ditto-cindy didnt touch her, in fact she was walking away while the older son was trying to restrain his mother-looks like that is how the door got shut on the little boy.

looks to me like the older boy, trying to push his mother back might have bumped her into that back door.

not cindys fault.
she was outside late, probably thinking everyone was gone-safe for her to go outside. I doubt they were sitting out there trying to catch a glimpse of her, that person was probably driving by and saw her outside.


imo/jmo

oh=good day everyone, I suppose this is the only news for today?
how did we miss that last night, we had our cams on while that was going on.


:rose: caylee

I didnt see that vid- I was talking about the other one with cindy in the driveway-she was walking away after she said "when caylee comes home you're going to go to he!!"


imo/jmoHere is your post. :no:

[bluwaters]

:D

Which one would you label as Cindy?

:lol: Can't figure it out, myself.

[impartial]

even without contact?
not being snarky, I thought contact is required for assault but could well be wrong.



An assault is the threat of an imminent battery.

Battery is a physical contact without consent.

However, when the statement is qualified with words like "if you don't stop" or "if you do that again" ... then there is no threat of an imminent contact.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

No doubt! Good luck Nejame, good luck. You're going to need it!
I'd walk the first time something like this happened were I representing them. IMO, it was he who sent the BG's. in an attempt to take away the excuse of 'defendig our property' and feeling threatened from George and Cindy ( And Lee too apparently). I'm sure he thought if they had no legit reason to "need" to go out then they wouldn't. Little did he know, huh?
IMO, every instance of trouble starts with one of this family actively seeking attention, TROLLING for it if you will. Just like us, sometimes you get a het up demonstrators and an Anthony gets the fight they're looking for. I agree with those who said, why cause trouble? You KNOW demonstrators will yell if you go out front...stay inside and let the hirelings do the work. For Pete's sake! They have a back yard, and obviously aren't accustomeed to hanging out in the front...thus they missed all the notices fro the tow yard for two weeks.
JMO....don't dish it out if you can't take it!:cuss:
...I learned that in kindergarten!Excellent post, One Up. :cool:

[bluwaters]

jeff foxworthy (or whatever his last name is) can Define "redneck."
more accurately than merriam-webster too. :)

[OneUp]

Did you see the video? The woman was screaming and pushed the door in.. and the kids arm was in the door. You could CLEARLY see it in the video.. then the child falls to the cement crying out in pain, but the mother was so wrapped up screaming the F-word at Cindy (and Cindy saying it back)..that she didn't even notice her child was hurt.

The children need to be left at home. Enough if enough. I am NOT fan of Cindy Anthony and if that child hadn't have been there, I would be more on the side of the protester but c'mon. Lee almost ran over a woman w/a child in her arms the other day.

This is a hostile environment and someone is going to get hurt eventually.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20ProtestersI agree with you totally. I pray that this stops...people are beginning to be hurt, and worst of all it has been CHILDREN at risk. Don't bring your kids, and for pitys sake! Leave the kids alone and take it out on the adults!
JMO.

[Rayosunshine]

Wont ya be my neighbor! :D They have to tidy up before the "prayer vigil"...I sure hope they dont drop the f-bomb tonight. **sighs**

If I start singing that song it's gonna be in my head all day long. Don't even think about, "It's a small world afterall".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Rayosunshine]

you can h ammer quitely.

Rubber mallet?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[impartial]

If I start singing that song it's gonna be in my head all day long. Don't even think about, "It's a small world afterall".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Oh, dang you. ;)

[Joan Weiss]

Right. And this happened at 12 midnight? Why was the kid out so late anyway?

I have watched the video a few times and it is very clear that Cindy is rushing the woman.. the woman is screaming back going towards Cindy.. some really skinny white guy with no shirt runs to hold the woman back and pushes her into her car door, which slams into the boys arm.

Then he hits the cement screaming and crying.. and Cindy & the woman continue to throw the F-bombs out..drowning out the poor kids cries. Cindy & George walk away... Finally some other lady who is with them.. notices the kid on the ground.. she grabs him to pull him up but then lets go of him and he falls back on the ground crying.. Rather than comfort the child or alert the female protester and man.. She goes and yakks it up with them.

I have nothing against the protesters, just the ones who bring their children there.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20ProtestersI'm not sure the video is a flow of events. I'm wondering if the last clip preceded the altercation. Neither of them seems that upset in that second clip. imo

[Acorn]

Right. And this happened at 12 midnight? Why was the kid out so late anyway?

I have watched the video a few times and it is very clear that Cindy is rushing the woman.. the woman is screaming back going towards Cindy.. some really skinny white guy with no shirt runs to hold the woman back and pushes her into her car door, which slams into the boys arm.

Then he hits the cement screaming and crying.. and Cindy & the woman continue to throw the F-bombs out..drowning out the poor kids cries. Cindy & George walk away... Finally some other lady who is with them.. notices the kid on the ground.. she grabs him to pull him up but then lets go of him and he falls back on the ground crying.. Rather than comfort the child or alert the female protester and man.. She goes and yakks it up with them.

I have nothing against the protesters, just the ones who bring their children there.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

I don't know about not letting your children come on a midnight mission, but

Cindy, the nurse who cares about people's blood pressure (Kitty Gonzalez, George Anthony), doesn't care to tend to a child who is obviously in pain.


So I say, poor Caylee.

[Texas48]

Wow, I watched the video of last nights fight...poor little boy...whats sad is the psychopath Casey that could put a stop to this for her family and neighbors.

The witch is watching calmly while her family implodes. I read your post and then reread your post...ITA w/you that Casey is a psychopath and she could put an end to everyones saddness and angy emotions..but...You also mentioned the "poor little boy". Did his mother stop what she was doing to rush and see about him or did she light up a smoke and keep on screaming? Take a step back and look at all not just a few. JMO

[OneUp]

IMO, maybe they should toss the whole bunch, including the protesters and the Anthony's, in the drunk tank for the night next time they get into it. They'll either cool off or kill each other. Problem solved!
:biggrin::beer: I love that idea...it'll never happen, but i just love it! At least the neighbors would get a night of peace! maybe Cindy would scream herself horse and give everyone a break for a day or two.....
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

I'm not sure the video is a flow of events. I'm wondering if the last clip preceded the altercation. Neither of them seems that upset in that second clip. imoHave a good day, everyone. :seeya:

[bluwaters]

IMO...they do not have their priorities in order but it seems they have no life at all. Yes..it is their right to protest...but why are they putting their children at risk for who knows what. These are parents screaming at other parents??????

What really gets to me on those videos, putting aside all the shoulda, coulda, and woulda that led up to the incident, is the non-reaction of all the adults to the injured child. That poor little boy was screaming and writhing in the street after his arm was slammed in the car door. That in itself didn't cause everyone brawling to drop their fighting and rush to the child's aid.

Why did no one care about the child?

[Shellberry]

Here is your post. :no:

as I said, I didnt see that video.
I didnt notice him pull her away in the other video, I thought she walked away
she didnt touch the lady in regards to it being cindys fault that the door got shut on the little boy.
she wasnt at the lady when the door got shut on him.
whether she got pulled away or walked away-she didnt make the door shut.


oh brother.
I thought you were done with the protester topic anyway?

:rolleyes:

seriously, I was wondering which topic would be hashed out forever on here today.


imo/jmo

[johnielee333]

do you have crime scene tape in your yard? (hides your hammer) :seeya:

:seeya: no i dont hide my h ammer.

[desmom]

Opps gotta disagree with you on this one desmom. Casey couldn't use the carjacking theory because she called TonE to come an pick her up and the car was there.

Darn forgot TonE....

Okay, she sees the car is missing, tells Tone her car is ready, leaves, finds a not so busy intersection and calls 911 to report her car was hijacked with the baby in it.

No? Well it might work in a bad made for tv movie, I am just not sure about real life... Real life? In this case? I think not!

Back to "why the heck did Casey leave her car at the Amscot?" and "was the purse really in the car?" drawing board.

jmo

[Rayosunshine]

You also call it "funny" :no:

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the whole incident was funny. What I thought was funny was that the video I saw only showed action after it began, it did not show the woman drive up, or what caused the altercation, i.e., who started it.
Thanks.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[martha]

Good morning everyone. I have a bad tooth that is hurting so much so i did not read all the psot from last night. I did read one that touched my heart. OREGONAL it was your post and it really got to me because it is the way I feel. It was just like I was posting I feel the same way you do. ITA with every word you wrote. May God bless you. I so want as everyone elce does to find Caylee. I want to believe caylee is alive but just can;t because of what they found in the car. I want someone to pay if something has happened to caylee. jmho:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Is there any place online where we can view the COMPLETE video of the altercation last night?

I'd like to know what was said after Cindy said she had 3 people out looking for Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

as I said, I didnt see that video.
I didnt notice him pull her away in the other video, I thought she walked away
she didnt touch the lady in regards to it being cindys fault that the door got shut on the little boy.
she wasnt at the lady when the door got shut on him.
whether she got pulled away or walked away-she didnt make the door shut.


oh brother.
I thought you were done with the protester topic anyway?

:rolleyes:

seriously, I was wondering which topic would be hashed out forever on here today.


imo/jmoYou thought I was done? Oh brother, good response. :rolleyes:

[trich]

Casey did not have sense enough to know since she was parked in someone elses(business) parking lot that they would have it towed.
that there would be a record of when it was first noticed there and for how long.
Not sure what she really thought except that she was not thinking
about what would happen since of course George was not coming to take care of it.
You can just tell so many untruths before they come back to hit you in the butt!!!

[martha]

Sorry it was your post of 1541 and it is just the way I feel. :rose:

[kitty1182]

Cindy is out and about now..

[bluwaters]

An assault is the threat of an imminent battery.

Battery is a physical contact without consent.

However, when the statement is qualified with words like "if you don't stop" or "if you do that again" ... then there is no threat of an imminent contact.

IMO

Thank you! :seeya:
I once again learned something.
It is really lively here today, for a Sunday and all.

[Rayosunshine]

Did you see the video? The woman was screaming and pushed the door in.. and the kids arm was in the door. You could CLEARLY see it in the video.. then the child falls to the cement crying out in pain, but the mother was so wrapped up screaming the F-word at Cindy (and Cindy saying it back)..that she didn't even notice her child was hurt.

The children need to be left at home. Enough if enough. I am NOT fan of Cindy Anthony and if that child hadn't have been there, I would be more on the side of the protester but c'mon. Lee almost ran over a woman w/a child in her arms the other day.

This is a hostile environment and someone is going to get hurt eventually.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

That's the video that won't load and play. Am going to the site to see if it is there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[SavannahStar]

IMO, this has nothing to do with rights, legal or otherwise. This situation calls for common sense, something Cindy is clearly lacking. Those signs are useless and she knows it. There was no pressing reason for her to be out there at midnight hammering them back into the ground. Common sense dictates that you keep yourself removed from potentially explosive confrontations. Cindy wanted confrontation, she charged the woman who was sitting in her van. The Anthonys have a lot to answer for - that's just fact. JMHO.


How about some common sense on the part of the protestors? "Protesting" in front of the Anthonys' home serves NO purpose whatsoever. It's not getting Casey put back in jail, it's not getting Caylee's body found, it's not getting Casey charged with murder. So common sense should tell them to STAY HOME.

Yes, common sense sure dictates that you keep yourself removed from potentially explosive confrontations.......so what, then, are the protesters there for?

[kitty1182]

Is there any place online where we can view the COMPLETE video of the altercation last night?

I'd like to know what was said after Cindy said she had 3 people out looking for Caylee

I would like to hear that myself..

[Pruddennce]

Well, since it's the anthonys who are purported to have a 1.5 million dollar media/book/film deal in the works, I would guess that any and all little confrontations they can instigate would go into the material for the book/film/interview deal.

The Padilla's on the other hand have a $50,000 reward for information about Caylee Anthony.

it started with the Padillas.

and it will end with them reaping millions. a reward that will never be paid out.

best regards,
Pru

[MyrDawn]

Have a good day, everyone. :seeya:

You too, Joan. :seeya:

What time do you want to meet me tonight in front of the A's...was it 10PM? Remember, we are both supposed to bring signs! :biggrin:

[impartial]

Darn forgot TonE....

Okay, she sees the car is missing, tells Tone her car is ready, leaves, finds a not so busy intersection and calls 911 to report her car was hijacked with the baby in it.

No? Well it might work in a bad made for tv movie, I am just not sure about real life... Real life? In this case? I think not!

Back to "why the heck did Casey leave her car at the Amscot?" and "was the purse really in the car?" drawing board.

jmo


I can think of no reasonable explanation.

The science, thus far, can be attacked.

Casey's lies can be softened ... she's lied for years, so her lies about the circumstances surrounding Caylee's missing do not have the same value as it would if she were honest prior, and lied only about this situation.

But the car ... all it needed was gas. She apparently went without a car until using Amy's.

That car will get her, one way or another.

IMO

[OneUp]

What really gets to me on those videos, putting aside all the shoulda, coulda, and woulda that led up to the incident, is the non-reaction of all the adults to the injured child. That poor little boy was screaming and writhing in the street after his arm was slammed in the car door. That in itself didn't cause everyone brawling to drop their fighting and rush to the child's aid.

Why did no one care about the child?
That is an excellent question blu.
IDK about others, but I react when I hear a child scream...in any circumstance the children are the peope I am focused on, maybe because I'm a mom? Even at ball games I find myself noticing kids running into the parking lot or hanging off the bleachers and smile and jokingly tell them to be careful...that I wouldn't want to see them hurt. Certainly, were I near a child who was hurt my first concern would be the child...I guess people act strange when angry. Anger is an emotion I try to avoid, it's nonproductive IMO.
JMO

[day2day]

I have heard about the purse in the front seat, but could not remember who said it or where it came from. TY~

IMO, the reason Casey left her purse in the front seat of the car and did not drive it into a lake is because she wanted someone to steal that car. She needed someone's fingerprints besides her, her family or her friends inside that car. I believe Casey was watching the car and as soon as it was missing, she would report a carjacking with Caylee inside the car. I also believe she saw the car being towed away. That had to be an Oh Cr** moment because now she had to dream a new scenario. jmo

I believe Casey was trying to "set the scene". The jogger that was murdered in Blanchard Park also left her purse in her car. Coincidence...i'm not buyin it. As for Cindy seein that car twice a day..why didn't she stop and see if anyone had seen Caylee then? None of this makes sense to me. jmo

[marshmallow]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off but why can't both Cindy and the protester woman be wrong?


none of this helps find a missing little girl. The person who can do that was probably inside either making new internet buddies or sleeping just fine in the bed she used to share with Caylee.

[johnielee333]

Rubber mallet?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

yep i've used that.

[aubrey04]

I just realized that we all are "assuming" that the protester was the mother of the child. We have no idea what the relationship was! There we go again, you know what they say about "assume". I'm leaving for awhile so you all can argue over who was right and wrong in the chaos. But will leave you with one thought, why doesn't Cindy just work in the back yard where she can't be bothered by the protesters? Oh, and why doesn't her big name defense attorney intervene? Hasn't he already told her to keep quiet? Just like Casey, she can't stop talking! Off to do some things I've been neglecting, will be back later. :seeya:

I never assumed that child was the protesters, but the child was in the same car as the protester.. and child clearly shouldn't have been out that late at night.. in front of ANYONES house with adults screaming the vulgar curse words.. and "baby killer". I agree with whsat the protesters are saying.. just leave the kids out of it.

It doesn't make a difference to me who this childs parents are..he should not have been exposed to all that.. and whoever was his guardian/caretaker that night should be ashamed because he was obviously hurt in the fiasco and NOBODY tended to him after he was hurt.

It's just plain wrong..

[OneUp]

Is there any place online where we can view the COMPLETE video of the altercation last night?

I'd like to know what was said after Cindy said she had 3 people out looking for CayleeOh REB! You just know that if it is something we really WANT to see there is probably not a complete video to be found...that seems to be the way it works. Sensation, sensation, sensation!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Casey did not have sense enough to know since she was parked in someone elses(business) parking lot that they would have it towed.
that there would be a record of when it was first noticed there and for how long.
Not sure what she really thought except that she was not thinking
about what would happen since of course George was not coming to take care of it.
You can just tell so many untruths before they come back to hit you in the butt!!!

I honestly think Casey thought that the car would be towed and nobody would be contacted about it. I think she possibly thought that she could tell her parents the car was stolen but little did she know the towing yard contact the owners of the vehicle when they get a car towed in that does not belong to the person having it towed. I had a car towed off my property once that did not belong to me. They told me they send a certified letter to the owner of the vehicle with notification that the vehicle had been towed and what date and time and the cost to get it out of tow. Not sure if that is how they do things there in Florida or not but it seems like it from the information we have on that situation and how the Anthony's were contacted. IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off but why can't both Cindy and the protester woman be wrong?


none of this helps find a missing little girl. The person who can do that was probably inside either making new internet buddies or sleeping just fine in the bed she used to share with Caylee.

....or painting her nails getting ready for her outing tomorrow. I was thinking the same thing :mad:

[bluwaters]

You too, Joan. :seeya:

What time do you want to meet me tonight in front of the A's...was it 10PM? Remember, we are both supposed to bring signs! :biggrin:

Can I come too? Let's get together first for some :beer:, k?

[day2day]

:seeya: no i dont hide my h ammer.

I just wanna say... I really value everyones opinions and respect all of you! Even when we don't always agree.

Take care everyone...I need to take my littleone to lunch!

:rose: Caylee...I hope she is never forgotten in all of this mess.

[Shellberry]

You thought I was done? Oh brother, good response. :rolleyes:

here is your post :no:

I'm done with this. You see what you want to see. :seeya:




If you're getting offline, you have a great day-we'll see ya later on





imo/jmo/etc

[bluwaters]

Have a good day, everyone. :seeya:

Bye Joan! You have a good day too. :seeya:

[martha]

WHAT HAPPENED AT THE ANTHONY HOUSE LAST NIGHT. I CAN;T GET THE VIDEO TO PLAY FOR ME. I hope the little boy you all or taling about is not hurt bad. what was being said? :rose:

[Rayosunshine]

I read that "funny" as in "odd."

Sorry, Isabelle, I don't mean to speak for you. That's my interpretation of what you wrote.

Is okay.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[bchand]

Happened last night too. Someone put up a sad looking pic of Casey walking with Caylee. Someone deleted it a few minutes later.

I grabbed that one and saved it on my computer.

[OneUp]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off but why can't both Cindy and the protester woman be wrong?

<snip>
.
Thank YOu! There really isn't a need for sides on this topic...I thouroughly believe Cindy goes out spoiling for a fight to vent her internalized rage in...and I definitely believe SOME fo the demonstrators go there hoping for confrontation and even some hoping for their 15 minutes of "fame".
No one seems to have much sense or decency anymore in this "Jerry Springer" influenced era...JMO.

[johnielee333]

I just wanna say... I really value everyones opinions and respect all of you! Even when we don't always agree.

Take care everyone...I need to take my littleone to lunch!

:rose: Caylee...I hope she is never forgotten in all of this mess.

i feel the same way.
have a good day. :seeya:

[Texas48]

A child did get hurt last night. It appears that the protesters were leaving in their car when Cindy approached them in the street. The child was hurt when the male companion of the woman protester tried to restrain her and pushed her against the open car door where the child was standing in the car.

Amazing and disturbing scene with bad behavior all around.

I hate to see that child writhing in the street in pain, ignored by everyone, except a rather mean attempt by a young female (older sister?) to make him stand.

Everyone is out of control. :flamemad: JMO..and my question sands...where was this "hurt" child's mother? Did she stop what she was doing and run and check on her child? The answer, I believe, is NO. They need to take their kids home where children belong. Playing games, watching tv or possibly sleeping. JMO

[aubrey04]

Did you see the video? The woman was screaming and pushed the door in.. and the kids arm was in the door. You could CLEARLY see it in the video.. then the child falls to the cement crying out in pain, but the mother was so wrapped up screaming the F-word at Cindy (and Cindy saying it back)..that she didn't even notice her child was hurt.

The children need to be left at home. Enough if enough. I am NOT fan of Cindy Anthony and if that child hadn't have been there, I would be more on the side of the protester but c'mon. Lee almost ran over a woman w/a child in her arms the other day.

This is a hostile environment and someone is going to get hurt eventually.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters

she did not push the door closed...it got closed when they guy restrained her. She did not reach back and close it.

He body pushed the door in, yes.. I never said that she reached back and closed it..

[SavannahStar]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone. I won't use that term anymore. Even though, I must say, it's tame compared to what I see here.....


*giggle* Yup.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I have another thought about Casey and the car.

Does anyone think she was going to tell her parents she let Zanny borrow the car to take Caylee some place because Zanny's car was being worked on and she never returned with Caylee and doesn't know where the car or Caylee are at until everything fell apart and she had to change her story? :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

here is your post :no:






If you're getting offline, you have a great day-we'll see ya later on





imo/jmo/etcYea, I knew you wouldn't let that go. :)
That was posted to another poster, not the subject in general. After all, that's the subject today, isn't it? ;)

[bluwaters]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off but why can't both Cindy and the protester woman be wrong?


none of this helps find a missing little girl. The person who can do that was probably inside either making new internet buddies or sleeping just fine in the bed she used to share with Caylee.

Thank you again marshmallow for stating so clearly what I fumble around to say.:patriot:

IMO, both Cindy and the protester were behaving badly and an innocent child was hurt in the process.

[MyrDawn]

Can I come too? Let's get together first for some :beer:, k?

Sure! In fact, let's skip the protesting and just have the :beer:'s
I think the expert protesters already have it covered.

[marshmallow]

JMO.. They need to take their kids home where children belong. Playing games, watching tv or possibly sleeping. JMO


like Casey is and Caylee isn't :(

(snipped it but wasn't disagreeing with you or poking at you)

[impartial]

I have another thought about Casey and the car.

Does anyone think she was going to tell her parents she let Zanny borrow the car to take Caylee some place because Zanny's car was being worked on and she never returned with Caylee and doesn't know where the car or Caylee are at until everything fell apart and she had to change her story? :shrug:


Can't .... TonE came and got her from Amscot.

She is stuck with abandoning the car.

All it needed was gas.

The car is going to cook her.

IMO

[kitty1182]

I grabbed that one and saved it on my computer.

I saw that pic on another board too..

[Kathlb]

Exactly....
Any normal person would have asked TonE to take her to get some gas or to bring it with him.
Being she lied , again, about her Dad coming to get the car and take care of it.
That is obvious since the car stayed there until the tow truck was called.

It is just one lie after another where there are witnesses to the fact ...there is no way to get out of them
she can not accuse everyone else of lying it just will not work.

If nothing else (and LE has plenty more I'm sure) this type of lying is a glaring light shining on Casey's guilt and will be in court. This telling of lies that are easily provable to be lies. Stupidity to the n'th degree IMHO. Let's lie incessantly and tell lies that with just one phone call or one look at the time line proves it to be nothing more than a stupid lie. Casey, Cindy, George and Lee have all done it and it's so stupid as to be laughable if it weren't for a missing, possibly deceased, grandbaby. Casey even stated in the questioning at Universal that she attended college and we all know she didn't even graduate high school. One phonecall can disprove that lie. So ignorant and all their lies will be their undoing on the stand in the trial because the jury will be told that if you find a witness to have lied, you can discount all of their testimony. JMHO

[MyrDawn]

Can't .... TonE came and got her from Amscot.

She is stuck with abandoning the car.

All it needed was gas.

The car is going to cook her.

IMO

I'd forgotten she called TonE to come for her. That blows one of my theories all to pieces.

[Shellberry]

Yea, I knew you wouldn't let that go. :)
That was posted to another poster, not the subject in general. After all, that's the subject today, isn't it? ;)

lol- love ya! :patriot:
it may as well be the subject, sundays are usually pretty quiet news wise around here.


Oh-does anyone know if casey went to church today? was she allowed to?

imo/jmo

[impartial]

Rebel ...

A poster I have the utmost respect for thinks she may have left the car there as a statement to her mother .... since it was left in a place where her mother would pass by every day ... you know, a middle finger gesture.

IMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Can't .... TonE came and got her from Amscot.

She is stuck with abandoning the car.

All it needed was gas.

The car is going to cook her.

IMO

I agree that's what happened. i'm just trying to figure out what she had planned on telling her parents about the car? What was she going to tell them if the tow yard had not contacted Cindy and George? :shrug:

[bluwaters]

*giggle* Yup.

:seeya: Hi SS. Have you been to church and back again?

*slink, slink-
like I intendedto do-:o

I hope you prayed for all of us here!

I'm sure you pray for Caylee :rose:

[Joan Weiss]

You too, Joan.

What time do you want to meet me tonight in front of the A's...was it 10PM? Remember, we are both supposed to bring signs! :biggrin:

Can I come too? Let's get together first for some :beer:, k?

Bye Joan! You have a good day too. Thanks, everyone. Tryin' to get away from this 'puter, lol...

Meet ya all for Jack before the demo, going to work on my sign. ;)

[aubrey04]

What really gets to me on those videos, putting aside all the shoulda, coulda, and woulda that led up to the incident, is the non-reaction of all the adults to the injured child. That poor little boy was screaming and writhing in the street after his arm was slammed in the car door. That in itself didn't cause everyone brawling to drop their fighting and rush to the child's aid.

Why did no one care about the child?


exactly. I wish I had no rewatched that so many times. I wanted to get an accurate play-by-play and watched it several times..and I am now very upset by it all. I can not imagine why the adults (including George and Cindy) ..did not care about that child's pain.

[MyrDawn]

Thanks, everyone. Tryin' to get away from this 'puter, lol...

Meet ya all for Jack before the demo, going to work on my sign. ;)

Great! :seeya:

[bluwaters]

Can't .... TonE came and got her from Amscot.

She is stuck with abandoning the car.

All it needed was gas.

The car is going to cook her.

IMO

You are so smart. :read:
What do you think Baez will try to do about the car?

[Texas48]

FGS, the mother of that child knew he was there and it is her job to protect him! She didn't do that. Poor thing rolling around on the ground in pain and she keeps right on fighting. Disgusting. How is Cindy responsible for the actions of this woman? She invited her to drop by, I suppose, just so they could fight. Good post cantstandnuts,,ITA Thank You!

[ellegna]

what was he thinking when he got involved with this bunch?
Where is he this am? Out on any talk shows telling america what good citizens these anthony's are. God, family, and apple pie all the way!

$ $ and publicity

[rosejustrose]

Can't .... TonE came and got her from Amscot.

She is stuck with abandoning the car.

All it needed was gas.

The car is going to cook her.

IMO

ITA. If she were smart she would have pulled a Susan Smith and disposed of Caylee and the car in one fell swoop. Then she could have cried car jacking. IMO, she abandoned the car so no one else would notice the smell coming from the trunk. Yup, the car is going to cook her. IMO.

[impartial]

I agree that's what happened. i'm just trying to figure out what she had planned on telling her parents about the car? What was she going to tell them if the tow yard had not contacted Cindy and George? :shrug:


I don't think she thought that far when it came to the car.

If Caylee was in the trunk, and if the car smelled, she may have left it in the parking lot hoping it would air out ... Probably thinking that if it wasn't in the street, it wouldn't get towed.

But, if the car did smell that bad, and 2 guys helped her push it, why didn't they smell anything. They would have been pushing it from the trunk end. And speaking of the 2 guys ... why haven't they surfaced?

IMO

[purplepoints]

I don't know much about cell phones, so someone please indulge me on this one.

Do you have to actually use your cell phone, ie make a call, recieve a call, text message etc., in order for your location to be traced? Or, does simply having your cell phone turned on make your steps traceable?

[bluwaters]

exactly. I wish I had no rewatched that so many times. I wanted to get an accurate play-by-play and watched it several times..and I am now very upset by it all. I can not imagine why the adults (including George and Cindy) ..did not care about that child's pain.
Speaks volumes about their character - all of them.
aubrey - I watched it too many times as well and now my head hammer.
I teach PreK and it's just ingrained in me to drop everything when a child is crying in pain. It's priorities I guess.

[impartial]

You are so smart. :read:
What do you think Baez will try to do about the car?


I have been racking my brain ... and I really cannot think of any reasonable explanation he can come up with.

One thing he can come up with is she thought since it was in the parking lot, it wouldn't get towed, so there was no hurry to pick it up ... but, that will be met with it's much easier to get gas in the car than do without a car for several days.

IMO

[trich]

I just looked at cam 1 and it shows yellow tape between the street and the sidewalk.
I thought that the Anthonys were told that piece of grass does not belong to them.
I think they do that just to try and start more crap.
Wish people would not take the bait.

[Shellberry]

I agree that's what happened. i'm just trying to figure out what she had planned on telling her parents about the car? What was she going to tell them if the tow yard had not contacted Cindy and George? :shrug:

I dont think casey thought that far ahead, I think she is an 'in the moment' girl.
saying what she needs to at that time.


imo/jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't think she thought that far when it came to the car.

If Caylee was in the trunk, and if the car smelled, she may have left it in the parking lot hoping it would air out ... Probably thinking that if it wasn't in the street, it wouldn't get towed.

But, if the car did smell that bad, and 2 guys helped her push it, why didn't they smell anything. They would have been pushing it from the trunk end. And speaking of the 2 guys ... why haven't they surfaced?

IMO

Just like Zanny the nanny. I don't think they exist. I think she wanted LE to think she was a weak female and couldn't push a car into the lot by herself. Also did not want to admit she abandon the car. She wanted them to think she was going to go back and pick it up at a later time. Wouldn't be to her advantage to admit she left it and had no intention of picking it back up. IMO

She tried to play LE and garner sympathy but it didn't work. IMO

[barskin&co.]

I agree that's what happened. i'm just trying to figure out what she had planned on telling her parents about the car? What was she going to tell them if the tow yard had not contacted Cindy and George? :shrug:


Yeah- "what she planned" is one big mystery. I think it might have included murdering her parents, but she had a hard time, because getting rid of two adults is a lot more difficult than one little toddler. :(

[bluwaters]

I don't think she thought that far when it came to the car.

If Caylee was in the trunk, and if the car smelled, she may have left it in the parking lot hoping it would air out ... Probably thinking that if it wasn't in the street, it wouldn't get towed.

But, if the car did smell that bad, and 2 guys helped her push it, why didn't they smell anything. They would have been pushing it from the trunk end. And speaking of the 2 guys ... why haven't they surfaced?

IMO

Is it proven that the car was out of gas?
I don't think that it was.
I don't think anyone pushed it to it's perfect parking spot.
There sure has been a lot made of Casey running out of gas, stealing gas, broken gas gauge, etc, by C&G.
George took gas with him when he went to get the car, but did he need it?
I know he used it, but was it necessary?

[bluwaters]

I have been racking my brain ... and I really cannot think of any reasonable explanation he can come up with.

One thing he can come up with is she thought since it was in the parking lot, it wouldn't get towed, so there was no hurry to pick it up ... but, that will be met with it's much easier to get gas in the car than do without a car for several days.

IMO
Also, TonE wanted to deal with the car and Casey told him her dad would take care of it.

[barskin&co.]

Just like Zanny the nanny. I don't think they exist. I think she wanted LE to think she was a weak female and couldn't push a car into the lot by herself. Also did not want to admit she abandon the car. She wanted them to think she was going to go back and pick it up at a later time. Wouldn't be to her advantage to admit she left it and had no intention of picking it back up. IMO

She tried to play LE and garner sympathy but it didn't work. IMO


Casey thinks by crowding her stories with details, she can just bulldoze people into believing her.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't know much about cell phones, so someone please indulge me on this one.

Do you have to actually use your cell phone, ie make a call, recieve a call, text message etc., in order for your location to be traced? Or, does simply having your cell phone turned on make your steps traceable?

From what I was told with the new phones having GPS device made into the phones. They can track where the phone is by it just being turned on.

My S/O's cell phone beeps when we gain signal again after not having any signal in certain areas. So obviously it pings the tower that is closest when it gains signal and beeps. IMO I would think that is what happens anyway. Not an expert though.

[kitty1182]

Casey thinks by crowding her stories with details, she can just bulldoze people into believing her.

She is in for a rude awakening!!

[Heyes]

Yeesh to the alligator thing, but I agree that she seems quite confident that Caylee will never be found and that's why she's Van Der Slooting her way through this thing. Thank god you can take someone to trial in America on circumstantial evidence. And in this case, if nothing else, there is plenty. JMO
Van Der Slooting"
Perfect!
That sums it.

Anyone notice the more cases you follow, you start to see many common traits among the killers and their enablers. All of which are covered by the defenses, famous..... You can't possibly judge these people.........everybody grieves differently.
Or is it just me?
imo

[SavannahStar]

Hi SS. Have you been to church and back again?

*slink, slink-
like I intendedto do-:o

I hope you prayed for all of us here!

I'm sure you pray for Caylee :rose:

Hiya! Yep I'm back. And prayed for EVERYONE. :) Our pastor had a very interesting sermon on forgiveness......

[rosejustrose]

I don't think she thought that far when it came to the car.

If Caylee was in the trunk, and if the car smelled, she may have left it in the parking lot hoping it would air out ... Probably thinking that if it wasn't in the street, it wouldn't get towed.

But, if the car did smell that bad, and 2 guys helped her push it, why didn't they smell anything. They would have been pushing it from the trunk end. And speaking of the 2 guys ... why haven't they surfaced?

IMO

I don't believe the story about the 2 guys. I think Casey was low on gas, pulled into the lot and let the car run until it ran out of gas. IMO, it was her plan to abandon the car because of the smell. JMO.

[kitty1182]

I don't believe the story about the 2 guys. I think Casey was low on gas, pulled into the lot and let the car run until it ran out of gas. IMO, it was her plan to abandon the car because of the smell. JMO.

If she was really out of gas, the 2 guys would have gotten her some, even if she had no money on her...