Saturday Afternoon/Early Evening Caylee Anthony Discussion

[Shellberry]

I had the thought that Casey was secretly hanging out in the "model" apt., the one that is only used to show to prospective tenants and is never rented. She could have overheard the whole thing. :shrug:

the apt-210- that was shown to zenaida wasnt a rental, but it was saved for people to lease out (something like that)-they did use it as a model apt for potential renters to look at though.
I read that somewhere in the 400 docs.



imo/jmo

[summer4meplz]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

amy alluded as did nate and tony that casey brought Caylee over when it clearly wasn't a child appropriate place for a child...

and by virtue of the fact that cindy wanted to take custody of Caylee, one would assume it was because cindy didn't think casey was taking good care of Caylee...

[marshmallow]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom



I think Casey was a part time Mom. She seemed to like putting the child out there for attention it brought her but when she was done... back the kiddo went to Cindy for the tough part of parenting.
I'm sure the time she parented in public she did fine but I get the idea that Cindy did the rest.

[Rayosunshine]

And that makes it RIGHT...why?:rolleyes:

I think it may be right if the child was conceived as the result of a rape. The mother may not have asked the rapist's name.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[nana6]

Never mind, it's gone. We have to stay on topic.

Do you think Casey will get hauled in on the new charges?

Joan, I would love to have her back in the slammer one way or the other. I would prefer murder charges this time as we all know that they would have a very good case against her even without the little body of Caylee. I was babysitting 3 of our 6 grandchildren tonight and holding their new baby girl. Just looking at her and t hinking of Caylee and I was so sad again.:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomAmy said she didn't like it when Casey brought Caylee to adult parties and put her to sleep on the couch. Tony told LE that Caylee was too friendly with strangers. One of them told LE that Caylee was too "flirty" with men. Those are not sterling "mom" qualities, imo. Those are major no-nos. imo

[summer4meplz]

the apt-210- that was shown to zenaida wasnt a rental, but it was saved for people to lease out (something like that)-they did use it as a model apt for potential renters to look at though.
I read that somewhere in the 400 docs.



imo/jmo

remember all the dings on the door....surely it wasn't considered a model apt....

i still think, that while it has nothing to do with Caylee's death, that there is something weird going on with the sawgrass apts....maybe not anymore...but there's too much coincidence about zenaida and ppl from fuscian living there....

[Sioux_girl]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Thats what i dont understand - all the pictures of Casey and Caylee together and they look so happy together.

[Shellberry]

i don't know, but i seem to remember her giving her password to lee when she was in jail...might have been just to myspace...
she gave the pass to her att too, I think she gave him passwords to all her online stuff that people 'found'- photobucket, etc.
all the stuff was made private or closed out before she got out of jail the first time.




imo/jmo

[NanceeDrew]

You don't understand - if Casey doesn't have control over her account, then she's not privy to that information at all.

There are perfectly good legal reasons that her account is likely being controlled by someone else now.

:no: Actually, there would be no LEGAL reason - perfectly good or bad for her account being controlled by someone else (on facebook, myspace, etc) because that would be illegal by violating the agreement to the terms of those sites usage policy. Those sites stipulate that you agree that you are the only person accessing those accounts and that you are to NOT SHARE your password or personal information with anyone online or offline.

[Velouria]

Why was Cindy threatening to take Caylee from her mother if Casey was a model mother? More lies from Cindy

Im curious by the time this has all finished just how many lies that family will have told :(


Not just Cindy, Sioux_girl...

Remember George telling us about how all of Casey's friends called her "Mom" because she was such a doting mother, and how she only went out to clubs to say hello to her friends for an hour or so, and didn't drink?

Guess she had to get up early the next morning for her imaginary job. :rolleyes:

[rj1212]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Yeah...I find it VERY interesting...

It makes sense hearing Cindy and George say that because they've been covering for Casey year after year.

But other people...friends and acquaintances...they apparently didn't know what was really going on with Casey and Caylee.

Casey obviously had them drinking the "kool-aid".

JMO

[Shellberry]

Don't you find it interesting that no one (I don't think anyone has) said anything about Casey being a bad mom?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I think that is interesting too.
but you know-people can put on an act in front of everyone...but no one really knows what goes on/went on behind closed doors, how she treated caylee when no one was around.


imo/jmo

[bchand]

Amy said she didn't like it when Casey brought Caylee to adult parties and put her to sleep on the couch. Tony told LE that Caylee was too friendly with strangers. One of them told LE that Caylee was too "flirty" with men. Those are not sterling "mom" qualities, imo. Those are major no-nos. imo

Plus "good moms" don't let their child go missing for 30 days without contacting the police.

[why-me]

I'm there, too. Misty Menthol Lights 120 and Strawberry daquiri. Gettin a little crowded, probably should bring along my own lawn chair, too?

Nah we'll have a BIG swing :D

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, I would love to have her back in the slammer one way or the other. I would prefer murder charges this time as we all know that they would have a very good case against her even without the little body of Caylee. I was babysitting 3 of our 6 grandchildren tonight and holding their new baby girl. Just looking at her and t hinking of Caylee and I was so sad again.:rose:I know. I feel so sad when I look at her pics. It makes my heart ache.

I, too, wish they would just end this and put her in the slammer. She doesn't deserve to be in her bed, on her computer, and being babied by her parents, brother, and Baez. How can they do that? :confused:

imo

[day2day]

It's quite interesting how some don't know the ins and outs of the case but yet they know IT ALL. Yeah sure they do. :rolleyes:

Mhmm they do! And the excuses ...it is good to know that the A's have puters is all ima sayin.:seeya::read:

[Rayosunshine]

Amy said she didn't like it when Casey brought Caylee to adult parties and put her to sleep on the couch. Tony told LE that Caylee was too friendly with strangers. One of them told LE that Caylee was too "flirty" with men. Those are not sterling "mom" qualities, imo. Those are major no-nos. imo

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[nc1948]

Actually your description of someone just wanting to get there face on tv and not actually doing anything to help find out whats happened to Caylee also fits Cindy Anthony JMO

Now ain't that the truth.

[barskin&co.]

Plus "good moms" don't let their child go missing for 30 days without contacting the police.

Yep. There's your bottom line!

[summer4meplz]

I think it may be right if the child was conceived as the result of a rape. The mother may not have asked the rapist's name.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

i don't ever remember hearing that casey had been raped.....

[desmom]

Do you know if this was in the lobby or somewhere 'public'? I always thought casey may have looked at the application sitting on a desk or counter, but perhaps she was there listening and overheard ZFG say and spell her name? just a thought...

Page 57 of the documents: The community manager said she "entered the leasing office" where she met Det. Yuri. She also 210 has been vacant since February 2008 and 210 shares a stairway with 110, the demo unit.

Page 54 is the Guest Card that was completed by a Sawgrass Apt. employee. The guest card asks several questions, one being "Will this apt home be just for you?" The employee circled "yes", but listed 2 names (ZG's children). The card also lists the prospective tenant's name as "G. Zenaida Gonzalez"....not "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

IIRC, Tony was looking for a new apt. I think Casey took it upon herself to scout apts for Tony and stopped in Sawgrass apts the day GZG was also looking for an apt.

jmo

[summer4meplz]

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

maybe not THAT night....

[Snewpy]

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Maybe .. maybe not.. but sadly she left her two year old daughter's decomposing BODY in her car while she partied...

So sad

[aubrey04]

If they're "gawkers", what are WE? :lol:



Please don't answer.

but...but... but.. I have to answer. We are "gawkers" too, IMO. So, I can't be too critical of the protesters because I am sitting here with the webcam page up watching.

Where is the halo smiley? :tongue:

[concernedmom]

Yeah...I find it VERY interesting...

It makes sense hearing Cindy and George say that because they've been covering for Casey year after year.

But other people...friends and acquaintances...they apparently didn't know what was really going on with Casey and Caylee.

Casey obviously had them drinking the "kool-aid".

JMO

She could have put on a good mom face around other people. She didnt seem to have a problem convincing them she had a job even her long time friends.

[Joan Weiss]

I think that is interesting too.
but you know-people can put on an act in front of everyone...but no one really knows what goes on/went on behind closed doors, how she treated caylee when no one was around.


imo/jmoThat's correct. I know a mom who everyone thinks is wonderful, but she can turn on a dime. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. People are always surprised by the deeds of someone they thought was a good parent. Happens all the time. imo

[Tiger]

Did Casey say she was raped?:eek:

Flmom, don't worry she did not! just someone trying to start "rumors":rolleyes:

[nana6]

The Homeowners Assn has filed an injunction against the protesters because they're fed up. Some have even planted trees to keep them off their grass which is being destroyed. One of the neighbors has put their house on the market. If approved, the protesters will have to remain outside the complex and can no longer loiter in front of the Anthonys' house and/or on the block itself. They hope to receive a reply this week.

well, good luck to the family who has put their home on the market!!! If I ws looking for a home and found out it was on the street where all of this was happening I would turn that car right around and head the opposite direction. Who needs that?

[rj1212]

Not just Cindy, Sioux_girl...

Remember George telling us about how all of Casey's friends called her "Mom" because she was such a doting mother, and how she only went out to clubs to say hello to her friends for an hour or so, and didn't drink?

Guess she had to get up early the next morning for her imaginary job. :rolleyes:



"...and didn't drink..." :lol:

(I'm having the vision of Casey Anthony drunk as a skunk using the restroom near cars in what looks like a parking garage...among other pics that show her three sheets to the wind...)

Yes, I remember Cindy saying that in one of the early interviews...I think maybe it was Greta...it was very amusing.

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
The mother can deny by simple omission, yes. It's done every single day by mothers who don't want to name their baby's birth father.

Do you know how many children across this country do not have a father listed on their legal birth certificate?

A LOT.
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But u forgot to mention that these mothers( that dont want to name the baby's birth father) can not get assistance from the father. On the other hand, a mother can leave off the name of the father on the birth certificate and still can get asistance from the father.

[st777jo]

Actually you're wrong, we don't agree because you misread my post.

I agreed with Nellie, even highlighting one of her comments about intentionally NOT adding the birth father's name to the birth certificate for very good reasons.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nellie

He was probably a schmuck. It seems to me that Casey didn't have to have a long relationship with someone before....welll....you know. So, guys line up for it. A nice, young man in her crowd would have been able to SEE that she was pregnant. He would know he had sex with her at the right timing. If he was all that nice, I think he may have questioned if it was his child and even insisted on a test. I'm sure it wasn't someone she had a deep relationship with....if she eve knew who it was. Girls getting drunk....having sex while drunk...heck, they can't even remember what happened the night before with whom..
You get my drift. Men used Casey. She used men. All my own opinion!

From experience, I will not sit and blame Cindy and George or Casey for not putting this young sperm donor on the birth certificate. There are reasons....very good reasons...not to do so. I'll blame them for just about everything else (LOL), but having walked in these shoes, I can say sometimes it's better not to name the sperm donor on the birth certificate or go after child support, so that's one thing I'll give them some benefit of doubt on. And, as a g-ma I can tell you I also would not have wanted my g-child to be adopted out. I would have advised my daughter against it too....just for the mere fact that I knew we would love our g-child and welcome her. So, I'm not going to beat Cindy up for that one either. She didn't MAKE Casey keep Caylee, but may have had a hand in talking with her and convincing her that they could all raise her and love her.

If this was another family, maybe. But,

After all the info and actions from the Anthony's, I'd say bio dad was left out so there would be no control or concern or visitation rights or custody fight from the bio dad and his family. JMO

[Amy]

I will give them your congrats.. thank you ! It's strange but now when I meet their little girl for trhe first time, and for as long as I know them, they will be inextricably linked to this case for me...

And I don't get why Casey just didn't let them take custody of Caylee.. except 1) it's clearly a power struggle between she and overbearing Cindy.. and 2) it would have meant the end of the gravy train for Casey... JMO of course

It could be that Cindy (@ the time @ least) did not want to take custody. The girl living @ my house recently (moved out, thank goodness, she's like Casey--you'll know when she's lying, it's if her mouth is moving) was going to give her baby up, but her dad and stepmom talked her into keeping the baby, and they would help her. Well, they do when they aren't disagreeing w/the girl who then moves to her moms or anywhere else. She uses the baby like a pawn--if she doesn't like what you do or say, she will keep you from seeing her baby. The poor tyke doesn't know up from down, where she lives, or who is family. The grandparents wanted the baby in their lives, but not enough to just take custody when they knew from the get-go she didn't want to keep the baby. Sad, sad, sad. Sure hope little Dani doesn't end up like little Caylee.

[orbison11]

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Ahhhhhh there u go again saying that Casey's account is being controlled by someone else. So i'll say it again....by JB's secretary. So your post means no more than mine. right? JMO

so why would a legal secretary waste her time aproving friends for casey's account on facebook?

maybe not a lot of clients to keep her busy?
just wondering
thanks

[barskin&co.]

Thats what i dont understand - all the pictures of Casey and Caylee together and they look so happy together.

Did Casey love any number of people in Fusian, 'cause she sure looks happy with them in pictures, too? Forget pictures, they mean nothing.
Listen to her on the 911 tape. Listen to her on the jailhouse tapes. Listen to her in the interrogation tapes. Is she a good mother? I would say a resounding, NO!

[Joan Weiss]

but...but... but.. I have to answer. We are "gawkers" too, IMO. So, I can't be too critical of the protesters because I am sitting here with the webcam page up watching.

Where is the halo smiley? :tongue:Thank you. I love your posts, and I bestow a halo on you for your forthrightness. :biggrin:

[Tiger]

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

WOW!!! Then lets give her the "mother of the year award"

[bchand]

but...but... but.. I have to answer. We are "gawkers" too, IMO. So, I can't be too critical of the protesters because I am sitting here with the webcam page up watching.

Where is the halo smiley? :tongue:

Hey at least we're not ruining their grass aubrey !!

[rj1212]

She could have put on a good mom face around other people. She didnt seem to have a problem convincing them she had a job even her long time friends.

Excellent points...

[kitty1182]

I don't think anyone has said much about her other than she is a habitual liar.

I don't think she was a good or bad mom..IMO, she was never a mom, she just gave birth..

[Oregongal]

What are your thoughts and wishes as to where Caylee might be?

Isabelle,
Ray'Mom

I don't have any thoughts about where Caylee may be, if I did I would have contacted LE. My wishes and prayers are that wherever she is she will be found...sooner, rather than later...so that she could have proper internment. I won't say burial because who knows what the family would choose in that regard. But, a proper place where the many strangers who have fallen in love with her could go and say goodbye, pray, and be able to finally know where she is and that she is finally safe and know she is lovingly in her Father's arms.
An earthly place where people could pay their respects and place real roses on her resting place.
For Caylee
:rose::rose::rose:

[Laurieann]

That may be true, but if no one complains or the mother doesn't apply for assistance, nothing is done about that. imo

I agree Joan. All I am saying is, at this time, we do not know who the daddy is, if he was informed, if he might have been a good or poor father, or if he did or did not want to be a father. Casey and Cindy did not have the right to make that decision.
Some posters seem to feel that if the mother thinks daddy isn't good enough to be around their child then they have the right to say he can't be. That is not true. A mother/father does not have the right to refuse her/his childs right to have the financial and physical support of their father/mother.
If said parent feels there is a reason the child should not be parented by the other parent, they then have the right to go befor a judge, in a court of law, who will make that decision for them.

[summer4meplz]

I don't think anyone has said much about her other than she is a habitual liar.


and thief...

[nana6]

Page 57 of the documents: The community manager said she "entered the leasing office" where she met Det. Yuri. She also 210 has been vacant since February 2008 and 210 shares a stairway with 110, the demo unit.

Page 54 is the Guest Card that was completed by a Sawgrass Apt. employee. The guest card asks several questions, one being "Will this apt home be just for you?" The employee circled "yes", but listed 2 names (ZG's children). The card also lists the prospective tenant's name as "G. Zenaida Gonzalez"....not "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

IIRC, Tony was looking for a new apt. I think Casey took it upon herself to scout apts for Tony and stopped in Sawgrass apts the day GZG was also looking for an apt.

jmo

Did Zenaida ever really go to Sawgrass to look at apts?

[Joan Weiss]

Thats what i dont understand - all the pictures of Casey and Caylee together and they look so happy together.Sure, and didn't Laci and Scott look happy?

Get real, it's a pose. Some of those photos show Caylee looking very uncertain. I can see it in her eyes. imo

[Velouria]

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Well not on those particular occasions, anyway.

[SaraSidle]

peeping toms!hammer

crimesolvers LOL

[day2day]

Maybe .. maybe not.. but sadly she left her two year old daughter's decomposing BODY in her car while she partied...

So sad

That she did. Heartbreaking i tell ya..:(

[Joan Weiss]

Did Zenaida ever really go to Sawgrass to look at apts?Yes. Remember her interview?

[NanceeDrew]

Thats what i dont understand - all the pictures of Casey and Caylee together and they look so happy together.

I think if Casey spent only the time it took to snap a photo of two of them and almost no time spent parenting a child, the picture may be deceiving. Cindy said on her myspace that she was the one raising the child, paying for her medical, basically stating that she was the parent per her definition. If the only time Casey spent "parenting" was the time she was parading around as "sucessful single mom" introducing the child to her friends - that may be true, but she self-admittedly spent little time with the child since Caylee was supposedly left at "the Nannie's" and even left Caylee to spend the night at "the Nannie's" when Casey didn't want to pick up Caylee at night to keep from "disrupting the Nanny" when it was too late at night. So when she told everyone "Caylee's with the Nanny" or grandma or whatever (as she told all of her clique that she was working at Universal, going to school part-time-wanted to transfer to UCF after completing her associate's <yet she's a high school dropout in real life> and on top of all that there is photographic proof that she was a self-defined party-animal and club-goer <often> (as per Tony's roommates and Casey's own admissions) - doesn't look like she was much of anything. Neglect and abuse can be described by those facts or representations alone.

[day2day]

crimesolvers LOL

Sounds MUCH better than peepin toms!! :seeya:

[SaraSidle]

I had the thought that Casey was secretly hanging out in the "model" apt., the one that is only used to show to prospective tenants and is never rented. She could have overheard the whole thing. :shrug:

I think so too and I wonder if anyone went through it for evidence. IMO

[why-me]

It's quite interesting how some don't know the ins and outs of the case but yet they know IT ALL. Yeah sure they do. :rolleyes:

WB rebel how was the birthday dinner?

[concernedmom]

I don't think she was a good or bad mom..IMO, she was never a mom, she just gave birth..

Yep. I think Cindy was the mom.

[nana6]

Yes. Remember her interview?

thank you Joan. I have had a migraine today and I am not really tracking very well

[summer4meplz]

i did a search and didn't find a reply, so I'll ask again. :)

is there anyway to see posts that casey left for others on myspace? it was done in the melinda duckett case and was really helpful filling in some blanks.


you might try links here....ws...i'm sure someone somewhere has saved them...google is my new best friend

[SandyO]

I have thought that as well. But then I think about Casey, who doesn't think ahead and deals only with the uncomfortable when it is absolutely necessary. If it true that C&G refused to acknowledge her pregnancy, then they enabled her denial.
The thing that really disturbs me in all of the speculation over Caylee's father and the fact that JG somehow thought it could have been him is the utter disregard for safe sex. What is with Casey and the apparently revolving door of partners that none of them uses protection? It worries me that with all the education out there, that the kids are so reckless with their own health, not to mention possible unwanted pregnancy.

It's really scary, isn't it?! All this sex education in the schools and on the media, and it doesn't seem uncommon for many young people to ignore the danger of disease, nevermind pregnancies. Hopefully there are also many who are not so careless. I just wonder if Casey had an ulterior motive for letting her pregnancy advance so far. I do not believe she has lofty religious objections to abortion.

[Hey Paula]

well, good luck to the family who has put their home on the market!!! If I ws looking for a home and found out it was on the street where all of this was happening I would turn that car right around and head the opposite direction. Who needs that?

ITA! But it tells you how disgusted the neighbors are that they want to sell their house even in this tough real estate market, even with the added strike against them of these people disrupting the peace day in and day out. I'll bet the protesters wouldn't want to live there and put up with themselves everyday.

IMO

[kitty1182]

Yep. I think Cindy was the mom.

Yep. I agree:)

[nellbell]

i did a search and didn't find a reply, so I'll ask again. :)

is there anyway to see posts that casey left for others on myspace? it was done in the melinda duckett case and was really helpful filling in some blanks.

Yes, unless it is set on private and then you have to be a friend. If you are not a friend you are out of luck. MOO

[SaraSidle]

Sounds MUCH better than peepin toms!! :seeya:

Well it certainly is my intent however I am powerless to do much except think.

[nana6]

A man has a right to know he fathered a child...IF after knowing this you find he isnt father material then you go to court.

A child has a right to know who their father is.

As to your post you said. 'a woman had a child then LATER found out the man was a wife beater..' so doesnt seem she could use that as an excuse for not naming him prior to knowing. JMO

Its simple..before you sleep with a man..look him over and ask yourself ..would you want him to be the father of your child.

ITA. I always told our girls to watch how their boyfriends treated their mothers. I thought it was a good indication of how they would treat women and by gosh it works too. I have seen the bad and the good. Thank goodness in our family both girls married wondeful menwho adore their mothers.

[day2day]

Didn't George and Cindy say they hadn't seen Casey for 30 days?
VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were -- how many gas cans?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That's when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don't believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I'm almost positive it's a Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Hmmm...another slip up?

jmo

[Oregongal]

I believe the implication is that it's LE ---- wanting to see who's contacting her and what they're saying.

Ok Sandy, whish...that implication flew right over my head. :D
I can see that. But, I can also see Casey online at 3 am trying to hook up with whoever she can so she can have contact with anyone other than just her parents, brother, attorney and LE.
I wouldn't be surprised to know that LE is monitoring her every keystroke either.

[Rebel Rouzer]

WB rebel how was the birthday dinner?

It was good well sort of lol Japanese food. Apple Saki lmao. :D

[desmom]

i did a search and didn't find a reply, so I'll ask again. :)

is there anyway to see posts that casey left for others on myspace? it was done in the melinda duckett case and was really helpful filling in some blanks.

ETA ~ Are you talking about the posts that surfaced after Melinda died?

I remember that. Wasn't it a back door in myspace's program, they did not know it was "unlocked" and has since been locked?

[Joan Weiss]

so why would a legal secretary waste her time aproving friends for casey's account on facebook?

maybe not a lot of clients to keep her busy?
just wondering
thanksI don't think Casey's facebook is that important. I think Casey is taking care of it. Tim said she went back to her computer after her brief hello. Really, it's not all that intriguing. Unless someone wants to contact a weirdo like her. jmo

[Amy]

I agree with this as well but what can you do? Go do a DNA test on every male until the one is found. It is a lot easier for the male to walk away.

I was thinking the same thing. And, who would they go with, a list made by Casey? Or every male in the Orlando area--and what if baby daddy is NOT from there? AND, without Caylee, DNA testing would be a bit difficult. Whose DNA are they going to test against?

EVEN IF some dude stepped forward today, he'd have a hard time proving he is the daddy. IMO

[Laurieann]

The mother can deny by simple omission, yes. It's done every single day by mothers who don't want to name their baby's birth father.

Do you know how many children across this country do not have a father listed on their legal birth certificate?

A LOT.

Yes, but you were agreeing to the statement that it was their right and it was as it should be. I am simply saying that it is not their right to make that decision nor should it be.

I could walk out my door right now and shoot the windows out of my neighbors house. Do I have the right to? NO
should I be able to? NO.
Just because you can (physically) does not gve you the right to, nor does it make it the right thing to do.

[Joan Weiss]

Ok Sandy, whish...that implication flew right over my head. :D
I can see that. But, I can also see Casey online at 3 am trying to hook up with whoever she can so she can have contact with anyone other than just her parents, brother, attorney and LE.
I wouldn't be surprised to know that LE is monitoring her every keystroke either.Sure, we like to go on line, don't we? What else has Casey got? Cindy and George in the other room....imo

[dixie77]

so why would a legal secretary waste her time aproving friends for casey's account on facebook?

maybe not a lot of clients to keep her busy?
just wondering
thanks
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Sorry i said that in jest. It was my reply to Daddysgirl when she said that maybe Casey wasnt in control of her account.

[rj1212]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

__________________


WOW!!! Then lets give her the "mother of the year award"


Where WAS Caylee when Casey partied??? I'm talking BEFORE Caylee was clearly missing...

IMO I believe Casey could've put Caylee in the trunk while she went clubbing...

Remember, Casey was mad at Cindy and she took Caylee from Cindy...remember the Myspace page where Cindy vented back in early July?

The point I'm making is this...I wouldn't put it past Casey that she'd leave Caylee in the trunk while she got drunk/high. If she forgot where she put Caylee for an extended length of time, then there you have it...after all, Casey has NO problem disconnecting from reality...we've seen quite a bit of that already from Casey AND Cindy!


JMO

[Joan Weiss]

I was thinking the same thing. And, who would they go with, a list made by Casey? Or every male in the Orlando area--and what if baby daddy is NOT from there? AND, without Caylee, DNA testing would be a bit difficult. Whose DNA are they going to test against?

EVEN IF some dude stepped forward today, he'd have a hard time proving he is the daddy. IMOLE has Caylee's DNA.

[barskin&co.]

Sure, we like to go on line, don't we? What else has Casey got? Cindy and George in the other room....imo

Yeah, I have a feeling they are not gathering in the living room to watch "Saturday Night Live."

[st777jo]

There was a comment on last night's board here of someone's own personal experience who had a son and later found that the father was not only a wife beater, but a child beater as well.

I'm not saying that this mother made that decision to not name the birth father, she didn't say that, but she did add that the birth father has been dead for 30 years, her son is now 37, and "God works in mysterious ways".

I agree with her, and that's only one small example of why it's sometimes best not to name the birth father on the birth certificate.

Certainly couldn't have been worse than what Casey done to Caylee, whatever that might be.

[cloe23]

Oh but, Cindy made it so clear:

CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee's never had a father. He was a friend of Casey's. He's never been in Caylee's life. He's not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Kaylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee's life. This is her life. Excuse me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

:see ya:
TY for the link. I tried to catch up with these threads but there are just too many posts to read. I apologize in advance for my questions and comments that most likely have been hashed and re-hashed.

1) Maybe Casey was sleeping with a married man and wants to protect his identity? I once thought this could be the case but her personality doesn't support this 'protective' behaviour, IMO.
What leads me to feel this way is, if Casey knows who the father was she would go after him for each and every dime she could get in child support. IMO

2) Maybe Casey really has no idea who the daddy is? If true she wouldn't admit this to her parents, IMO.

3) Or maybe the father was under 18yrs and she feared legal trouble? It appears that Casey is all about Casey, she very well could of been protecting herself as to who's the daddy or she is was so active she has no clue?

4) Was the only DNA found in Casey's car taken from the trunk?
I question the gas peddle and break peddle showing anything that would of assisted LE in the search of little Callie's body? What if she got dumped in a dumpster at the same store she left her car? The trash very well may have been picked up and taken away by the garbage men the day after she died?

Just some theories.

[Joan Weiss]

Yes, but you were agreeing to the statement that it was their right and it was as it should be. I am simply saying that it is not their right to make that decision nor should it be.

I could walk out my door right now and shoot the windows out of my neighbors house. Do I have the right to? NO
should I be able to? NO.
Just because you can (physically) does not gve you the right to, nor does it make it the right thing to do.OMG. You do realize that the "right thing to do" is not in the Anthony's repertoire, don't you? imo

[marinewife5]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

__________________





Where WAS Caylee when Casey partied??? I'm talking BEFORE Caylee was clearly missing...

IMO I believe Casey could've put Caylee in the trunk while she went clubbing...

Remember, Casey was mad at Cindy and she took Caylee from Cindy...remember the Myspace page where Cindy vented back in early July?

The point I'm making is this...I wouldn't put it past Casey that she'd leave Caylee in the trunk while she got drunk/high. If she forgot where she put Caylee for an extended length of time, then there you have it...after all, Casey has NO problem disconnecting from reality...we've seen quite a bit of that already from Casey AND Cindy!


JMO

casey may have realized that her friends were not hip to her bringing caylee to adult parties and rather than grow up, just left her in the car. and i have hardly heard a reliable source come forth and claim she is a good mom. the grund's hardly saw her, her mother is biased, and a bunch of young, single, childless kids? please.

jmo

[kitty1182]

maybe the father was never told. I still lean towards she slept with so many she has no idea which ones the daddy.

amen..amen!!

[Oregongal]

Thats what i dont understand - all the pictures of Casey and Caylee together and they look so happy together.

I can understand it, nobody usually takes pics of unhappy times. And in my mind Casey is one of those people that wears a mask and when someone wants a happy mask for pics, she's very good at putting that mask on.
Pictures do not real life make.

[nellbell]

I was thinking the same thing. And, who would they go with, a list made by Casey? Or every male in the Orlando area--and what if baby daddy is NOT from there? AND, without Caylee, DNA testing would be a bit difficult. Whose DNA are they going to test against?

EVEN IF some dude stepped forward today, he'd have a hard time proving he is the daddy. IMO

They have Caylee's dna it was found in the car from her hair. MOO

[concernedmom]

I think the name isnt on the BC simply because Casey didnt know "Whose the Daddy?"
Otherwise poor Jessie wouldnt have flunked the paternity test.
If present behaviors are indicators of the past than if Casey was preggers right now we could ask "Whose the Daddy" because 4 potential candidates have already been exposed.

[Oregongal]

:no: Actually, there would be no LEGAL reason - perfectly good or bad for her account being controlled by someone else (on facebook, myspace, etc) because that would be illegal by violating the agreement to the terms of those sites usage policy. Those sites stipulate that you agree that you are the only person accessing those accounts and that you are to NOT SHARE your password or personal information with anyone online or offline.

Welcome Nancee!
:seeya:

[marinewife5]

I think the name isnt on the BC simply because Casey didnt know "Whose the Daddy?"
Otherwise poor Jessie wouldnt have flunked the paternity test.
If present behaviors are indicators of the past than if Casey was preggers right now we could ask "Whose the Daddy" because 4 potential candidates have already been exposed.

ita...he was a nameless, faceless person. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

OMG. You do realize that the "right thing to do" is not in the Anthony's repertoire, don't you? imo

I'm almost sure Laurieann realizes what is real and what isn't concerning her opinion about te Anthony's. She is somewhat how I am on the subject. trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but knowing they are more involved than we want to admit. IMO i'm sorry if i mispoke for her. :eek:

[bchand]

Yeah, I have a feeling they are not gathering in the living room to watch "Saturday Night Live."


Oh thanks for the reminder. Season premier coming up next.

[kitty1182]

I can understand it, nobody usually takes pics of unhappy times. And in my mind Casey is one of those people that wears a mask and when someone wants a happy mask for pics, she's very good at putting that mask on.
Pictures do not real life make.

That is so true!!!!! My first husband beat me and abused me bad, but when we were somewhere and had a pic took, you would think truer love was never known..Wrong, I hated him, but didn't want my parents to know I was being so abused..So like you said, Pictures do not always tell the truth..

[barskin&co.]

I would love to have that statement analyst- you know, this guy:

http://www.statementanalysis.com/

go over Cindy's spiel:


CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee's never had a father. He was a friend of Casey's. He's never been in Caylee's life. He's not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Kaylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee's life. This is her life. Excuse me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Doesn't she sound like she's protesting too much?

[Joan Weiss]

:see ya:
TY for the link. I tried to catch up with these threads but there are just too many posts to read. I apologize in advance for my questions and comments that most likely have been hashed and re-hashed.
<snipped for band width>

4) Was the only DNA found in Casey's car taken from the trunk?
I question the gas peddle and break peddle showing anything that would of assisted LE in the search of little Callie's body? What if she got dumped in a dumpster at the same store she left her car? The trash very well may have been picked up and taken away by the garbage men the day after she died?

Just some theories.I'm sure LE has gone over that car with a fine-toothed comb. The dumpster pickup truck has a GPS tracking device, LE was able to go directly to the exact grid where it was emptied. They found nothing.

Imo, one would have to be a complete moron to put a body or anything related to that body in a dumpster right next to the car in question. imo

[marinewife5]

I would love to have that statement analyst- you know, this guy:

http://www.statementanalysis.com/

go over Cindy's spiel:


CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee's never had a father. He was a friend of Casey's. He's never been in Caylee's life. He's not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Kaylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee's life. This is her life. Excuse me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Doesn't she sound like she's protesting too much?


she does indeed. a simple "none of your business" or "no comment" would have sufficed. the reality is that she's embarassed because her princess doesn't know the name of the frog she kissed. jmo

[Shellberry]

Sure, and didn't Laci and Scott look happy?

Get real, it's a pose. Some of those photos show Caylee looking very uncertain. I can see it in her eyes. imo
I agree.
in some pics you can see something about caylee that doesnt look like what a child should look like in a picture.
I cant put my finger on it.
I go back and look at pics of my daughter and you can just see the gleam in her eyes, even when I catch her off guard, that she is a happy child.

there was a pic posted recently when trash lady found that hat- a pic of casey and the friend wearing the hat, taken in the front seat of her car, you can see caylee sitting in the back, peeking at the camera.
she just looks very sad.

imo/jmo

[dixie77]

I knew that you did, because it certainly didn't come from anyplace else.
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I dont remember saying i had a link to prove it. Did I ? If u can make assumptions then so can anyone else. JMO

[bchand]

I can understand it, nobody usually takes pics of unhappy times. And in my mind Casey is one of those people that wears a mask and when someone wants a happy mask for pics, she's very good at putting that mask on.
Pictures do not real life make.

I came across this one at another site today. I don't know who took it but it's not your typical "happy" shot of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/caylee1.jpg

[Amy]

There is absolutely no reason to believe shes not in control of that account right now. No reason whatsoever in fact. JMO

You will be saying soon she wasnt in control of her daughter when she went missing either I guess :rolleyes:

I could see her giving permission to someone (Lee?) to run her account whilst she was incarcerated. But, whenever she is out, it would make sense that she would be in control again. Don't see why whomever would want to NOT give her back her space or book. IMO

[kitty1182]

Dear kitty. :rose:

It's ok, I got the pick of the liter 23 years ago..He's the greatest:)

[Shellberry]

I'm sure LE has gone over that car with a fine-toothed comb. The dumpster pickup truck has a GPS tracking device, LE was able to go directly to the exact grid where it was emptied. They found nothing.

Imo, one would have to be a complete moron to put a body or anything related to that body in a dumpster right next to the car in question. imo

I dont think she put the body in the dumpster, but extra things from tonys house-diapers, clothes, toys, etc.
anything that would say caylee stayed there and slept.


imo/jmo

[barskin&co.]

Oh thanks for the reminder. Season premier coming up next.

Yeah, I want to see Tina Fey playing Sarah Palin. 'Ya think Casey is interested in that? :D

[why-me]

we have to all wear really really short shorts, seems the fad down there. :lol:

i'll have my rum and marl lights.

I will if you will and then we can run through the sprinklers :biggrin:

[nana6]

I agree.
in some pics you can see something about caylee that doesnt look like what a child should look like in a picture.
I cant put my finger on it.
I go back and look at pics of my daughter and you can just see the gleam in her eyes, even when I catch her off guard, that she is a happy child.

there was a pic posted recently when trash lady found that hat- a pic of casey and the friend wearing the hat, taken in the front seat of her car, you can see caylee sitting in the back, peeking at the camera.
she just looks very sad.

imo/jmo

with all of the pics that are coming out of Caylee I have yet to see one of her with other little children. I thought maybe kids from their neighborhhod or even cousins that G or C may have nothing He.. we don't even see anyone going to the house to support these people. I wonder where friends and family are?

[st777jo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by st777jo View Post
Certainly couldn't have been worse than what Casey done to Caylee, whatever that might be.Not necessarily true at all, because first of all we don't know where Caylee is, nor what's really happened to her.

IF she is no longer alive, which I doubt, she at least had nearly 3 loving, very happy years with people who loved her - by comparison to what could have been 3 torturous years with a drugged sperm donor who physically abused her.

Not only do we not know about Caylee right now, but we also don't know the quality of person who was Caylee's sperm donor - so yes, it could have been worse.

What part of "whatever that might be" don't you get?

As for the rest of your post, you don't know that for fact, so you are a$$uming. jmo

[margaret kep]

Yep. I think Cindy was the mom.

I read somewhere that Ricardo stated Casey had given him a story about a guy named Brad or Brandon that she met through her brother Lee and that is who her baby's father was. Wonder if LE can check that out.

[cloe23]

I'm sure LE has gone over that car with a fine-toothed comb. The dumpster pickup truck has a GPS tracking device, LE was able to go directly to the exact grid where it was emptied. They found nothing.

Imo, one would have to be a complete moron to put a body or anything related to that body in a dumpster right next to the car in question. imo

TY for clearing this up for me.:)

[Joan Weiss]

It's really scary, isn't it?! All this sex education in the schools and on the media, and it doesn't seem uncommon for many young people to ignore the danger of disease, nevermind pregnancies. Hopefully there are also many who are not so careless. I just wonder if Casey had an ulterior motive for letting her pregnancy advance so far. I do not believe she has lofty religious objections to abortion.I don't believe being against abortion carries "lofty religious objections." Casey doesn't strike me as the type to worry about that. I don't pretend to know what went on in her mind, but abortion is readily available and she didn't get one. :shrug:

imo

[Oregongal]

casey may have realized that her friends were not hip to her bringing caylee to adult parties and rather than grow up, just left her in the car. and i have hardly heard a reliable source come forth and claim she is a good mom. the grund's hardly saw her, her mother is biased, and a bunch of young, single, childless kids? please.

jmo

:beer:
And good to see you marinewife, I've missed you since have not been on the Maria L forum for a long while.
:seeya:

[barskin&co.]

I read somewhere that Ricardo stated Casey had given him a story about a guy named Brad or Brandon that she met through her brother Lee and that is who her baby's father was. Wonder if LE can check that out.

Hey, maybe our new poster, Lorakai, can index and catalogue all the statements and lies made about Caylee's father. It would take someone with her talent to accomplish that.

To Lorakai, for the great job she did organizing the data on this case-
:beer:

[Unperson1984]

I think it may be right if the child was conceived as the result of a rape. The mother may not have asked the rapist's name.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

We know one thing about the father...he was foolish enough to have unprotected sex with Casey Anthony.

:no:

[Joan Weiss]

I read somewhere that Ricardo stated Casey had given him a story about a guy named Brad or Brandon that she met through her brother Lee and that is who her baby's father was. Wonder if LE can check that out.I recall reading that he was in the military. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read that, or who said it. There are, however, pictures of Casey wearing someone's dog tags, and pictures of Caylee wearing someone's army hat. :shrug:

I think Caylee looks just like JP Chatt. imo

[dkny]

I would love to have that statement analyst- you know, this guy:

http://www.statementanalysis.com/

go over Cindy's spiel:


CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee's never had a father. He was a friend of Casey's. He's never been in Caylee's life. He's not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Kaylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee's life. This is her life. Excuse me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Doesn't she sound like she's protesting too much?

ITA, way too much. JMO

[Laurieann]

I agree, and as for Cayee's "Right to be acquainted with her bio dad" - parents control those Rights of minor children and make decisions accordingly, just as any other decision they make for their minor child - as it should be.


OMG. You do realize that the "right thing to do" is not in the Anthony's repertoire, don't you? imo

ummm yes, Joan, I do realize that. I was resonding to an ongoing conversation with DG about the comments she made.

[Oregongal]

That is so true!!!!! My first husband beat me and abused me bad, but when we were somewhere and had a pic took, you would think truer love was never known..Wrong, I hated him, but didn't want my parents to know I was being so abused..So like you said, Pictures do not always tell the truth..

I'm so sorry Kitty, you said first husband, I hope you have a good one now.
:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

with all of the pics that are coming out of Caylee I have yet to see one of her with other little children. I thought maybe kids from their neighborhhod or even cousins that G or C may have nothing He.. we don't even see anyone going to the house to support these people. I wonder where friends and family are?Thank you for bringing that up. I have felt that was strange from the beginning. Most young mothers that I have seen hang with other young mothers. Caylee seems not to have had any playmates. There is NOTHING in the docus that say otherwise, either; ie; no young mother's affidavits. Christine has a child, but no pics of her and her child with Caylee. Poor baby. imo

[Amy]

I have thought that as well. But then I think about Casey, who doesn't think ahead and deals only with the uncomfortable when it is absolutely necessary. If it true that C&G refused to acknowledge her pregnancy, then they enabled her denial.
The thing that really disturbs me in all of the speculation over Caylee's father and the fact that JG somehow thought it could have been him is the utter disregard for safe sex. What is with Casey and the apparently revolving door of partners that none of them uses protection? It worries me that with all the education out there, that the kids are so reckless with their own health, not to mention possible unwanted pregnancy.

Seems that condoms are still a dirty word. When I ask my kids if the kids having unprotected sex think about STD's AIDs, pregnancy, they just shrug their shoulders. It's so SIXTIES as they say, to worry about this stuff. I say, in the SIXTIES a little penicillin would cure whatever you picked up (except the pregnancy) but NOW you can DIE!!!! But, of course, it won't happen to any of THEM. :shrug:

[marinewife5]

:beer:
And good to see you marinewife, I've missed you since have not been on the Maria L forum for a long while.
:seeya:

since our favorite fugitive is coming home soon, i'm sure you'll be seeing more of me!

this case just stresses me the h-e-double-hockey-sticks out. if it isnt the anthony's it's the trolls...i'm on the same diet as python!

jmo

[anyonesguess]

He's a Marine, whom Casey had on her myspace page or Facebook one of the two, telling him that 'she has a exciting surprise for him' - and that she'd tell him soon when she came to see him out in California.

An exciting surprise? I don't recall it quite that way imo. Are you sure that is what she said?

[Laurieann]

I'm almost sure Laurieann realizes what is real and what isn't concerning her opinion about te Anthony's. She is somewhat how I am on the subject. trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but knowing they are more involved than we want to admit. IMO i'm sorry if i mispoke for her. :eek:


Hee hee
you can speak or misspeak for me anytime :D

[Oregongal]

No one besides Casey has any idea who the father is IIRC.

Welcome AdverseParty, :seeya::seeya:
And ITA, but also have to add...if she has any idea.
:eek:

[Amy]

And that makes it RIGHT...why?:rolleyes:

The mom can put whatever name she wants as father of the baby, but if fob isn't around to sign the paternity papers, the name isn't on the birth certificate when it is sent to the state for registration. @ least this is the way it is in KS.

[bchand]

LB is alive. Having survived her first hurricane. Whew. The winds last night were more than scary. It looks like a warzone out here. I finally go power back a half an hour ago. I lost power sometime around 2am this morning. I am one of the fortunate ones. I don't have running water but I do still have plenty of water in the fridge and I filled out my bathtub long before I lost power.

Here is a link to an alternative search for Caylee:
http://www.briansdreams.com/cayleesearch/

You can check this link for updates on their search or if you would like to join them in searching now that TES is gone for the time being.


:seeya: Good to see you LB! Glad you made it through the hurricane.

[barskin&co.]

If you don't know who the papa is then how can you know what is a lie or not?
:shrug:

Oh, she told Tony and Clint that Caylee's father "died in a car crash on the way to Caylee's birthday party." That's what I mean about lies.

[nana6]

He's a Marine, whom Casey had on her myspace page or Facebook one of the two, telling him that 'she has a exciting surprise for him' - and that she'd tell him soon when she came to see him out in California.

when was that ? I wonder when she wrote that to him?

[Joan Weiss]

Wasn't the military guy some friend of Lee's from California?I don't know, but that doesn't rule him out, does it?

She had plans to go to CA, she had something to tell the guy. Something she'd already discussed with her parents. I don't know if that's the one you're talking about.

I just wonder if that's the daddy, and she was going to tell him that her parents were taking custody of Caylee. It's possible... imo

[why-me]

It was good well sort of lol Japanese food. Apple Saki lmao. :D

That was your well deserved thanks for the searching you did got little Caylee. Thank you again for that.

[Oregongal]

First you have to be a friend of Casey's if she has her space set to private. Once you can view her profile, you just click on any one of her friends and you can see any messages she left for them.

I just listened to the jail tapes again this afternoon and Casey gave Kristina her pw to her myspace page over the phone. (they bleeped it out). Casey can access facebook or myspace from any computer anywhere. Why would anyone think someone else is "controlling" it?

I've been lurking in the background for a few days, even removed myself from the board and probably will not post much and even then will be very careful what I say. I wouldn't want any of this showing up in court anywhere. I saw the supboena's to myspace and facebook and JB was asking for anyone who even "looked" at her pages! I live in FL, I can't risk losing my job! My luck the change of venue will be to Miami!

BTW, I'm kicked back with my blackberry Vodka/ginger ale and running outside now for a quick Marlboro Ultra Light Menthol! BRB

Whoops, sorry I flew on by your post but then reading back noticed you are a newbie...Welcome Miami Mania!
:seeya:

[Amy]

I think Casey was a part time Mom. She seemed to like putting the child out there for attention it brought her but when she was done... back the kiddo went to Cindy for the tough part of parenting.
I'm sure the time she parented in public she did fine but I get the idea that Cindy did the rest.

That sounds like what some girls I know do, so it could very well be true in this case.

[luvinlife]

I don't have any thoughts about where Caylee may be, if I did I would have contacted LE. My wishes and prayers are that wherever she is she will be found...sooner, rather than later...so that she could have proper internment. I won't say burial because who knows what the family would choose in that regard. But, a proper place where the many strangers who have fallen in love with her could go and say goodbye, pray, and be able to finally know where she is and that she is finally safe and know she is lovingly in her Father's arms.
An earthly place where people could pay their respects and place real roses on her resting place.
For Caylee
:rose::rose:


sorry snipped a rose so I could use one.



I have to say my biggest wish would be that Caylee is alive, however I don't believe that to be the case.

If that wish can't come true, than my next wish would be exactly as you stated here.


For Caylee:rose:

[nana6]

Please excuse my O/T, but I thought you all should know.....

that it is being reported that the engineer who caused the big train crash in LA yesterday, was text messaging one minute prior to the crash. Texting while driving a train filled with passengers.
:(

350 passengers!!!!!!!!!!!

[anyonesguess]

You need to read more carefully and you'd see that I didn't "decide".

And the BIO father could possibly have NEVER known he fathered a child, and would have LOVED to have had her in his life. Maybe he wouldn't have MISPLACED HER either, and we would not be sitting here typing out our theories over the nut case Caylee had as a womb donor imo.

[dixie77]

LB is alive. Having survived her first hurricane. Whew. The winds last night were more than scary. It looks like a warzone out here. I finally go power back a half an hour ago. I lost power sometime around 2am this morning. I am one of the fortunate ones. I don't have running water but I do still have plenty of water in the fridge and I filled out my bathtub long before I lost power.

Here is a link to an alternative search for Caylee:
http://www.briansdreams.com/cayleesearch/

You can check this link for updates on their search or if you would like to join them in searching now that TES is gone for the time being.=
==========

Glad to see u r ok, Bitty. It must have been a nightmare.

[Joan Weiss]

The mom can put whatever name she wants as father of the baby, but if fob isn't around to sign the paternity papers, the name isn't on the birth certificate when it is sent to the state for registration. @ least this is the way it is in KS.i've never heard of that. I doubt some daddies would want to sign, or could be forced to. imo

[rj1212]

Not necessarily true at all, because first of all we don't know where Caylee is, nor what's really happened to her.

IF she is no longer alive, which I doubt, she at least had nearly 3 loving, very happy years with people who loved her - by comparison to what could have been 3 torturous years with a drugged sperm donor who physically abused her.

Not only do we not know about Caylee right now, but we also don't know the quality of person who was Caylee's sperm donor - so yes, it could have been worse.

What IS clear is this...Caylee deserved a Mom and a DAD...not sperm donor, but DAD who cared about Caylee who obviously needed to pull Caylee away from this crazy situation that was taking place between Cindy and Casey...it was unhealthy...

and no...it could NOT have been worse, because Caylee Anthony is dead and the Mom could care less...that much is true. Then you've got grandparents who are lying for Casey which is a slap in the face to the spirit of their grand-daughter.

[Unperson1984]

I recall reading that he was in the military. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read that, or who said it. There are, however, pictures of Casey wearing someone's dog tags, and pictures of Caylee wearing someone's army hat. :shrug:

I think Caylee looks just like JP Chatt. imo


I do too Joan.

[Joan Weiss]

And the BIO father could possibly have NEVER known he fathered a child, and would have LOVED to have had her in his life. Maybe he wouldn't have MISPLACED HER either, and we would not be sitting here typing out our theories over the nut case Caylee had as a womb donor imo.I think he probably did know, and maybe that's why Casey didn't get an abortion. She was young, maybe she thought he'd keep her. :shrug: imo

[barskin&co.]

Wasn't it true that a classmate of hers died in an accident?

I don't know, but the father dying on the way to Caylee's birthday party is fiction.

[Oregongal]

I came across this one at another site today. I don't know who took it but it's not your typical "happy" shot of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/caylee1.jpg

There ya go. Almost looks to me like she's going thru the motions and not happy about it. Thanks for this bc.

[dixie77]

i've never heard of that. I doubt some daddies would want to sign, or could be forced to. imo
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Here in La., the father doesnt have to sign....but he is forced to take a DNA test if the mother wants to get child support.

[Leanne Weich]

Not sure if you know this, but you can't just contact someone's ISP and glean information of the keystrokes from them.

So in order for LE to obtain any information from computers used at Baez office, they'd have to actually address his computers - and that would be a major infraction to Casey's Attorney/Client privilege - not counting any other personal information that Baez would put on his own computers.

That's the last thing that LE wants to do is give Casey more of an edge by violating her basic Rights.

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a keylogger on the Anthony family's personal computers - definitely not on Baez's though. Not only would that violate the attorney/client privilege insofar as CA is concerned, but the privilege of any of Baez's other clients. JMOOC.

[SaraSidle]

rose::rose:Dear kitty. :rose:

[Amy]

At least Casey didn't leave her in the car while she partied.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

That we know of. That has been one of the theories speculated on, that Casey used the car or the trunk of the car for Caylee's playpen or bed whilst she went partying. Maybe someone had told her how inappropriate it was for Caylee to be @ the parties, and this is how she handled "baby sitting."

[st777jo]

What IS clear is this...Caylee deserved a Mom and a DAD...not sperm donor, but DAD who cared about Caylee who obviously needed to pull Caylee away from this crazy situation that was taking place between Cindy and Casey...it was unhealthy...

and no...it could NOT have been worse, because Caylee Anthony is dead and the Mom could care less...that much is true. Then you've got grandparents who are lying for Casey which is a slap in the face to the spirit of their grand-daughter.

Thank you.

[bluwaters]

I think the name isnt on the BC simply because Casey didnt know "Whose the Daddy?"
Otherwise poor Jessie wouldnt have flunked the paternity test.
If present behaviors are indicators of the past than if Casey was preggers right now we could ask "Whose the Daddy" because 4 potential candidates have already been exposed.
I don't think that Casey would have told Jesse even if she knew that he was not the father. Casey mode is just to live the lie until the last possible moment, then make up a new one. I don't see
Casey stopping Jesse from taking the DNA test, even if she knew he was not Caylee's father.
This is the reason why I am not worried by Casey's seeming so confident that Caylee will never be found. Casey's MO is to act confident no matter how outrageous the lie. I think that Casey's demeanor is as meaningless as Casey's words.

[martha]

I can;t believe cindy did not know casey was preg. Casey is a very small person and it would not take much for it to show on her.jmho:rose:

[anyonesguess]

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a keylogger on the Anthony family's personal computers - definitely not on Baez's though. Not only would that violate the attorney/client privilege insofar as CA is concerned, but the privilege of any of Baez's other clients. JMOOC.

ITA. They could also have remote access to her entire computer.

[Joan Weiss]

ummm yes, Joan, I do realize that. I was resonding to an ongoing conversation with DG about the comments she made.Oh, sorry, iggy is my friend. ;)

[rj1212]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bchand
I came across this one at another site today. I don't know who took it but it's not your typical "happy" shot of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...nd/caylee1.jpg

There ya go. Almost looks to me like she's going thru the motions and not happy about it. Thanks for this bc.

For some reason, that photo of Caylee with Casey really made my heart break all over again. Again, Caylee deserved better than this...:mad:

[st777jo]

Respectfully.. Spirits can't be slapped in the face. If I am going to imagine Caylee's spirit, I would think she would be very sad to see all those people attacking her grandma and grandpa. After all.. they were the ones who loved and cared for Caylee, her entire life.

jmho

And disrespectfully have now thrown her under the bus for princess casey. jmo

[SaraSidle]

Like I said in my previous post, Casey was just playing with her little baby doll when it suit her, then handing her back to Cindy for the real world.

No argument Very depressing. IMO

[nellbell]

Do we need to start a new board? It is over a 1000. I do not know how can someone do it? MOO

[Amy]

we have to all wear really really short shorts, seems the fad down there. :lol:

i'll have my rum and marl lights.

Oh, dear. Short shorts? Really? Well, I guess if I have to, but people might appreciate it if I wore them a tad bit longer. I guess they sell them year 'round down there?

[Oregongal]

since our favorite fugitive is coming home soon, i'm sure you'll be seeing more of me!

this case just stresses me the h-e-double-hockey-sticks out. if it isnt the anthony's it's the trolls...i'm on the same diet as python!

jmo

Oh really? Thanks for the heads up, haven't heard that.
Yes, this case affects and stresses me in so many ways. I keep my focus on Caylee and I just try to scroll on by, breathe and try not to throw things when I get angry with the Anthony's...or anyone else
:biggrin:

[Joan Weiss]

I don't think that Casey would have told Jesse even if she knew that he was not the father. Casey mode is just to live the lie until the last possible moment, then make up a new one. I don't see
Casey stopping Jesse from taking the DNA test, even if she knew he was not Caylee's father.
This is the reason why I am not worried by Casey's seeming so confident that Caylee will never be found. Casey's MO is to act confident no matter how outrageous the lie. I think that Casey's demeanor is as meaningless as Casey's words.I have to agree with you, blu. That strut out of the house when she got arrested the last time would have put Diane Downs to shame, I tell ya. hammer

imo

[Joan Weiss]

it goes along (if the story rick told is true) w/ casey's whole disassociated personality. she was probably denying the fact she was pregnant and/or not taking care of herself properly during her pregnancy prior to her parents finding out. can't you just see her not caring at all for the child growing inside her?

jmoMaybe she was disassociated from her body? :shrug:

[rj1212]

Respectfully.. Spirits can't be slapped in the face. If I am going to imagine Caylee's spirit, I would think she would be very sad to see all those people attacking her grandma and grandpa. After all.. they were the ones who loved and cared for Caylee, her entire life.

jmho

I'm sorry...I assumed that you knew that it was a saying...an idiom of sorts. It would be a figurative slap in the face, not a literal one.

BTW, I respectfully disagree with you regarding the grandparents.
I would stand behind the grandparents every step of the way if they didn't engage in false statements and cover-up for Casey Anthony.

[Duckaroo]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times or answered before, it's hard to keep up sometimes.

I was wondering..does anyone know if LE ever found or talked to the guy that "supposedly" hooked Casey up with Zanny the Nanny? I remember she said that "Zanny" supposedly had watched his child too and that's how she met her or she was recommended to her.

[Joan Weiss]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bchand
I came across this one at another site today. I don't know who took it but it's not your typical "happy" shot of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...nd/caylee1.jpg



For some reason, that photo of Caylee with Casey really made my heart break all over again. Again, Caylee deserved better than this...:mad:The photo is deleted. :confused:

[Oregongal]

LB is alive. Having survived her first hurricane. Whew. The winds last night were more than scary. It looks like a warzone out here. I finally go power back a half an hour ago. I lost power sometime around 2am this morning. I am one of the fortunate ones. I don't have running water but I do still have plenty of water in the fridge and I filled out my bathtub long before I lost power.

Here is a link to an alternative search for Caylee:
http://www.briansdreams.com/cayleesearch/

You can check this link for updates on their search or if you would like to join them in searching now that TES is gone for the time being.

LB!!!! I'm so glad to 'see' you, have been worried and praying. Thank you so much for letting us know you are ok.
My prayers have been answered and all I can say is YAHOO!!!!
Hugs and Love LB!
:rose:

[anyonesguess]

That's what she said, yes - her original post is still over at WS rolling around on various threads, or was as of about 2 weeks ago.


On July 17, the day the sheriff’s office arrested Casey Anthony, a man named Mark Hopkins, who said he was a Marine in California, called investigators.
He said he and Casey had been talking daily by phone and on the Internet and Casey had told him she was planning a trip to California to tell him something. She said she told her mom and brother, but she didn’t know how he’d react. He told investigators he still didn’t know what she wanted to tell him.


Where does it say she had something exciting to tell him? It doesn't AT ALL. :rolleyes:

[nana6]

I wonder if anyone here can please tell me how to use the ignore feature? I think I need it!!!!!!

[st777jo]

The photo is deleted. :confused:

That was quick. I just seen it.

[Joan Weiss]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times or answered before, it's hard to keep up sometimes.

I was wondering..does anyone know if LE ever found or talked to the guy that "supposedly" hooked Casey up with Zanny the Nanny? I remember she said that "Zanny" supposedly had watched his child too and that's how she met her or she was recommended to her.IIRC, they bumped into each other at a dinner place where they were dining with separate parties. He told LE they spoke briefly and that was it. She called his parents shortly after, and left a message. He said he had no idea why she did that. That's all I know. :shrug:

[rj1212]

The photo is deleted. :confused:

OMG Joan...

I just looked at it only minutes ago, and you're right...I can't get to it now!

[Laurieann]

Oh, sorry, iggy is my friend. ;)

:seeya: no problem. I'm finished with it now anyway. My head hurts from banging it with the keybord.
I just realized she's leading the original convo waaaaaay o/t and I'm the idiot for following her while trying to make a point lol :punch:

[barskin&co.]

I wonder if anyone here can please tell me how to use the ignore feature? I think I need it!!!!!!

Go to your user CP and to the "edit ignore list." Type in the name; it's programmed to complete the name you are probably trying to enter.

[anyonesguess]

it goes along (if the story rick told is true) w/ casey's whole disassociated personality. she was probably denying the fact she was pregnant and/or not taking care of herself properly during her pregnancy prior to her parents finding out. can't you just see her not caring at all for the child growing inside her?

jmo


She could have told Cindy it was an immaculate conception and Cindy would have believed her imo.

[Joan Weiss]

That was quick. I just seen it.OK, so one of the Anthonys is reading here, RIGHT NOW. imo

[dlamonica7]

Like I said in my previous post, Casey was just playing with her little baby doll when it suit her, then handing her back to Cindy for the real world.

Amen to that! :beer:

[rj1212]

Go to your user CP and to the "edit ignore list." Type in the name; it's programmed to complete the name you are probably trying to enter.

I've seen the light as well...I think it's time for me to use the iggy feature for the first time ever on this board.

Thanks for the info!

[dixie77]

OMG Joan...

I just looked at it only minutes ago, and you're right...I can't get to it now!

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Maybe Casey or Cindy is here reading and they went and deleted it. JMO

[st777jo]

I've seen this phrase repeatedly tossed around here without merit - unless of course you believe that the Grandparents are smarter than LE?

Ignorant, sometimes obnoxious, but never smarter. jmo

OH yea, their actions my dear.

[concernedmom]

The photo is deleted. :confused:


it wasnt a minute ago because I saw it which means casey must be reading here.

Casey where is Caylee

[Oregongal]

Thank you for the :seeya: I'm really not so new, I was on previously for a few days but tried to stay in the background. I don't like the way some people just try to push buttons, haven't figured out the ignore thing yet but there are a few I want to put in there!

Don't stay in the background, your ideas and opinions will be valued by most of us here. I don't use iggy, I just scroll on by.
;)

[Duckaroo]

IIRC, they bumped into each other at a dinner place where they were dining with separate parties. He told LE they spoke briefly and that was it. She called his parents shortly after, and left a message. He said he had no idea why she did that. That's all I know. :shrug:


Thanks..I'd been wondering that for a bit, since she seems to be still sticking with the nanny story, only now she switched to the park and that they gave her a script..or last I heard that's what it was.

[Joan Weiss]

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Maybe Casey or Cindy is here reading and they went and deleted it. JMONo maybe about it. imo

[dlamonica7]

it wasnt a minute ago because I saw it which means casey must be reading here.

Casey where is Caylee

It's Cindy in mho:eek:


:rose: For OUR Angel Caylee :rose:

[Joan Weiss]

it wasnt a minute ago because I saw it which means casey must be reading here.

Casey where is CayleeRepeat......

[anyonesguess]

it wasnt a minute ago because I saw it which means casey must be reading here.

Casey where is Caylee

If you go back to the original post of #1118, you can still see it. I think the link loses it's translation somehow when it is then quoted again by another poster. :)

[concernedmom]

It's Cindy in mho:eek:


:rose: For OUR Angel Caylee :rose:


Doesnt matter. Im sure I saw that pic on another site. Ill see if I can find it.

[barskin&co.]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times or answered before, it's hard to keep up sometimes.

I was wondering..does anyone know if LE ever found or talked to the guy that "supposedly" hooked Casey up with Zanny the Nanny? I remember she said that "Zanny" supposedly had watched his child too and that's how she met her or she was recommended to her.


Oh yes. They checked up on him right away and flound out he hadn't worked at Universal (he did as a high school student) for 6 years. This is one of the details Casey had to end up admitting was a lie.

Further:

Fox’s Phil Keating reported that while Casey told authorities that Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis knew she was searching for Caylee, Juliet Lewis has yet to be found, and Jeff Hopkins responded via email that he wouldn’t classify himself as her “friend.” He says he was an acquaintance, but never introduced her to the nanny Casey says took her daughter. Jeff also says he is furious that Cindy Anthony keeps referring to him in the media as a person to validate Casey’s story.
http://www.missingabducted.com/2008/07/index.html

We were able to track down a Jeffrey Hopkins Senior who also has a son named Jeffrey Hopkins.

According to the elder Hopkins, they know the Anthony family and were asked by the family not to talk.

But he said off camera, that his son worked for Universal Studios in high school. And he insisted that Anthony and his son never dated and has never met Caylee.

Deputy Padilla said detectives have talked to the family, but so far found no relevant information.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7092429&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

[anyonesguess]

LOL

Of course it doesn't, because you're reading from the doc dump, which logically doesn't include Casey's post on myspace or Facebook, as was stated in my post.

I don't believe anything she wrote on the facebook, myspace, and I do not believe anything she told LE. Do you now know she is a bonified pathological liar?

I do however believe the marine that called LE on his own, and he says NOTHING about Casey wanted to tell him something exciting.

[bluwaters]

Hey Blu...and ITA. Casey has no feelings about Caylee...or had very little for her beyond...slight caring. I think that when whatever happened to Caylee happened...Casey felt something akin to relief. Just my opinion. I think that she intended to move forward with a plan to murder her parents for the home...and was partying and shopping and getting tattooed all in anticipation of her beautiful new life...jmo...her family's money, Caylee no longer a burden...a house...
It is so good to hear from you my dear! I can't wait to hear all about your date with Ike!
I agree with you that Casey had some kind of terrible plan for C&G - and saw herself as the queen in the castle. Entitled to it all as well, for some sick reason. If only Cindy hadn't tracked her down. hammer

[concernedmom]

If you go back to the original post of #1118, you can still see it. I think the link loses it's translation somehow when it is then quoted again by another poster. :)

Thanks. That was freaky. But I still think she reads here.

[Laurieann]

Thanks!!! That was only a category two but the damage was ridiculous. I am never staying behind again. That was more than a little scary. Thanks for the prayers...

Yahoo...is exactly what I said when the power came back on 2 hours ago. And I am one of the lucky ones.

Have I missed anything in the case over the last day? I have been answering phone calls and monitoring the boards a bit since I cam back...haven't had a whole lot of time to do the Nancy Drew bit...:read:

Hi LB :seeya:
Glad you made it thru.
Nothing going on today. boards are bored I think. Lots of rehashing and stuff. I could have missed something tho.

[why-me]

O/T again, but we DO wear jeans in the winter down here! Final post, off to bed! Someone start a new thread so I can catch up in the morning!!

Good night Miami

[Shellberry]

The mom can put whatever name she wants as father of the baby, but if fob isn't around to sign the paternity papers, the name isn't on the birth certificate when it is sent to the state for registration. @ least this is the way it is in KS.

i've never heard of that. I doubt some daddies would want to sign, or could be forced to. imo

that is how it is in PA-you can give your baby any last name.
it doesnt have to be the fathers.
I was thinking rockafeller for my daughter :tongue: lol-but no seriously.
her fathers name isnt on her b/c-not because he didnt want it to be, but when he filled out the forms in the hosp-he signed his with the wrong date, he signed his birthdate instead of the current date.
and the nurse witness, didnt even look at it, she signed in her spot.
when we got home, I looked a the papers a few days later and noticed it was wrong.
sure enough we got her b/c in the mail and it says father not recorded or father not on record.

I can;t believe cindy did not know casey was preg. Casey is a very small person and it would not take much for it to show on her.jmho
I have a friend who is tiny (short and very thin) ! no one at all knew she was pg -unless she told them. she has a twin sister, they are both tiny
you really could not tell. both of their kids are now taller than they are and they are still very young, lol (the kids)
ITA. They could also have remote access to her entire computer.
I was thinking a program like pc anywhere.
mostly used in offices, but it would work.

Maybe she was disassociated from her body? :shrug:
could be- I hear of people having the postpartum psychosis where they just never bond with their child. (not post partum depression)
psychosis, where they never bond no matter how old the child is and end up harming the child.
and there are cases where it starts the second someone finds out they are pg.

The photo is deleted. :confused:

that is weird, I just looked at it a sec ago-caylee walking with a football and casey holding her hand? is that the pic?
imo, she's tugging her along, look how far ahead of caylee she is..


as always, everything imo/jmo/etc

[summer4meplz]

I agree.
in some pics you can see something about caylee that doesnt look like what a child should look like in a picture.
I cant put my finger on it.
I go back and look at pics of my daughter and you can just see the gleam in her eyes, even when I catch her off guard, that she is a happy child.

there was a pic posted recently when trash lady found that hat- a pic of casey and the friend wearing the hat, taken in the front seat of her car, you can see caylee sitting in the back, peeking at the camera.
she just looks very sad.

imo/jmo

i thought she looked so tired when she was sitting on her greatgrandfather's lap...that's probably her last picture....

[st777jo]

By wanting to believe their precious grandaughter is still alive? I'm not sure they have had a moment of peace to be able to grasp the reality of their situation. I can't fault them for keeping hope in the absense of absolute proof. Or keeping hope in the absense of a murder charge. Is it really fair to make them accept something that the authorities don't know for sure, and apparently haven't enough evidence to prove it. George and Cindy loved that little girl more than anyone on the planet, and I'd bet that Caylee loved them more than anyone on the planet too. While I respect that everyone has a right to their opinion, I am unable to be a participant in the heartless lynching of those grandparents.

jmho

I am quite sure Caylee loved her GP's and her mom.

[SaraSidle]

Thanks!!! That was only a category two but the damage was ridiculous. I am never staying behind again. That was more than a little scary. Thanks for the prayers...

Yahoo...is exactly what I said when the power came back on 2 hours ago. And I am one of the lucky ones.

Have I missed anything in the case over the last day? I have been answering phone calls and monitoring the boards a bit since I cam back...haven't had a whole lot of time to do the Nancy Drew bit...:read:

I just wanted to say I am very happy you and yours are okay. Prayers to everyone else in Texas:rose::rose:

[rj1212]

Wow...this is weird.
It certainly makes sense now...

Scrolling back over the thread for the past hour or so will reveal some interesting comments that will shed light on whether or not an Anthony wasn't just lurking but commenting as well...hammer

[bluwaters]

The photo is deleted. :confused:
It was there just a moment ago, I saw it. It's gone now! :eek:

[anyonesguess]

Thanks. That was freaky. But I still think she reads here.

Between hammering trespassing signs, putting up yellow caution tape, and answering the 1000 tips she gets daily on her cell phone, I believe you could be correct.:D

[MoonFlwr]

I can;t believe cindy did not know casey was preg. Casey is a very small person and it would not take much for it to show on her.jmho:rose:


Not always!

When my sister was pregnant I flew overseas to visit her and first saw her when she was already 6 months pregnant. We're both slim, but her stomach was like a board, still and flatter than mine! I wondered where the baby was fitting in, in there! Seriously!

[summer4meplz]

I am quite sure Caylee loved her GP's and her mom.


absolutely.,...kids love their mommies...even abusive ones...

[st777jo]

Anyone have that poem in pink, in case the Anthony's are on here, they should read it and weep.

[anyonesguess]

Odd, because it ended up on the Marine's page although there are claims that he didn't know her. ;)


If you are going to quote me, please quote it ALL or say you are snipping my quotes.

[summer4meplz]

Odd, because it ended up on the Marine's page although there are claims that he didn't know her. ;)


is that the guy in california she was going to go see...and had some mysterious message for him or something:confused:

[Duckaroo]

Oh yes. They checked up on him right away and flound out he hadn't worked at Universal (he did as a high school student) for 6 years. This is one of the details Casey had to end up admitting was a lie.

Further:

Fox’s Phil Keating reported that while Casey told authorities that Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis knew she was searching for Caylee, Juliet Lewis has yet to be found, and Jeff Hopkins responded via email that he wouldn’t classify himself as her “friend.” He says he was an acquaintance, but never introduced her to the nanny Casey says took her daughter. Jeff also says he is furious that Cindy Anthony keeps referring to him in the media as a person to validate Casey’s story.
http://www.missingabducted.com/2008/07/index.html

We were able to track down a Jeffrey Hopkins Senior who also has a son named Jeffrey Hopkins.

According to the elder Hopkins, they know the Anthony family and were asked by the family not to talk.

But he said off camera, that his son worked for Universal Studios in high school. And he insisted that Anthony and his son never dated and has never met Caylee.

Deputy Padilla said detectives have talked to the family, but so far found no relevant information.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7092429&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

:seeya: Thanks..so the Anthony's asked them not to talk. I guess maybe they found this out after she "lawyer-ed up"? Just curious what her story was or would be then after the story of how she even met Zanny turned out to be a lie too.

[why-me]

It wasn't just a few minutes ago. Casey had her head down and didn't look a bit happy. Caylee just looked forlorn, hanging on to her mommy's hand.

If you go back to the original post, it will come up. I just did.

[summer4meplz]

hi little bitty :seeya:so glad to see you made it through the hurricane....my brother and his family did too, minimal damage but no power of course...hope you have power....

i'll bet you couldn't wait to get back to this message board...sadly no arrest...and we still don;'t know where Caylee is...

[EaudeT]

i've never heard of that. I doubt some daddies would want to sign, or could be forced to. imoThat's how it was when I had my first daughter in kansas to.
I put her dad on the BC, but they told me it wouldn't go on it unless he signed it and agreed to paternity. If he wouln't do that I would have to go to court and establish the paternity to get him legally listed as her dad. Lucky for me he just signed. But not really lucky if you get my drift.
I saw someone up on a message ealier ask why didn't Caseys friends ever call her a bad mom and then another person I think it was Kitty? said because she just wasn';t a mom . Thats what I was going to post until they beat me to it. Casey was just like a sister or like my babies godmothers were. They took them to the park and bought them stuff and showed them off. But they never did the Mom stuff. Just the fun stuff like a visitation daddy does.
Everyone seem to like kids when they can drop them off when they get tired of them.

[Joan Weiss]

I came across this one at another site today. I don't know who took it but it's not your typical "happy" shot of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/caylee1.jpgI don't see anything particularly noteworthy. :confused:

Wow, that's really weird. It's here...

[mags]

My date with Ike was terrible. He picked me up...drove 80 miles an hour to a McDonad's...we didn't even go inside...he bought me a happy meal in the drive thru and asked me for change. Then he sped back to my house and told me to jump from the car while it was still rolling...never again I say. ;)


That had me cracking up. I do not in anyway think it is funny you just went through a hurricane but your discription is funny. Glad to see you are ok and have power back on.

[st777jo]

Someone, anyone, have that poem in pink, re: Caylee to Mommy?
Can someone post just in case the Anthony's are reading here, TIA

[Laurieann]

wow, I made a new thread
cool:D

[anyonesguess]

dangit, is everyone on here drunk?!:lol:


I can't type and drink at the same time. They would get me for TUI and if given a field sobriety test, I would have to tell them I know by alphabet but just not is alphabetical order. :)

Pythonesque, I will go to a new thread if you create it. :seeya:

[Laurieann]

Made a new thread
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12115394#post12115394

never did that befor lol

[Joan Weiss]

dangit, is everyone on here drunk?!:lol:O/T....please...

[nana6]

it wasnt a minute ago because I saw it which means casey must be reading here.

Casey where is Caylee

Casey, do the right thing. This is your chance. You will be surprised how many people will support you if you just tell where Caylee is. Think of her and your memories of her. She needs you now inthis very important way. Please

[concernedmom]

:beer::beer:

[anyonesguess]

You apparently missed it. :)



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I don't believe anything she wrote on the facebook, myspace, and I do not believe anything she told LE.
Odd, because it ended up on the Marine's page although there are claims that he didn't know her.

Then I apologize.

[Joan Weiss]

If you go back to the original post, it will come up. I just did.Thanks, but why that? :confused:

[summer4meplz]

That is probably true, but IIRC.. prior to Caylee's disappearance, there were no reports to the authorities of any abuse commited by Casey or her parents.

not by her parents, but, iirc....the hair dresser did make a report...

we need a new thread but i;m not gonna do it....i always get the mean ppl...lol...

[dlamonica7]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340157

:D

[martha]

Thank you for the new thread. I would have done it but just don;t know how ha. Is the web cam froze tonight? I guess we have no news now. maybe tomorrow they will find caylee. I pray she is alive but my heart tells me she is not. sure hope my heart is wrong. jmho:rose:

[concernedmom]

I hate the pic on the web cam. To the left by the drive way it looks like a woman flying thru the air.:eek:

[Shellberry]

hi all
:rose: for caylee

I really dont think casey would bother herself reading here-it is too fast paced.

imo/jmo

[rj1212]

dangit, is everyone on here drunk?!:lol:

:lol: I'm just getting started with my first Corona...

Maybe I don't need it after all??? :shrug:

Anyway, that pic of Caylee and Casey seemed sad to me...just the innocence of Caylee looking confused, yet dependent on her Mother.

Soooo sad...

[Laurieann]

I am such a dork

I went to the other thread to say I made a new thread.
Then I clicked on the link for the new thread.
Then I closed the old thread.
Then I closed this thread.
Then I treid to get back on IS and it asked for my name and password.
Had to look it up.
I am such a dork lol

[Joan Weiss]

hi all
:rose: for caylee

I really dont think casey would bother herself reading here-it is too fast paced.

imo/jmoYeh, she is probably cruising chemical sites. :rolleyes:
imo

[Joan Weiss]

I am such a dork

I went to the other thread to say I made a new thread.
Then I clicked on the link for the new thread.
Then I closed the old thread.
Then I closed this thread.
Then I treid to get back on IS and it asked for my name and password.
Had to look it up.
I am such a dork lolLol...I hate when that happens.

[Shellberry]

not by her parents, but, iirc....the hair dresser did make a report...

we need a new thread but i;m not gonna do it....i always get the mean ppl...lol...
I cant recall about the hairdresser - I dont really think casey abused caylee like that-if she did Im betting cindy would have been right up her duppa to try to get custody of her.

& love the last part of your post, that was funny, I feel your pain, lol about making the new posts

IMO/JMO

[FoxySly]

A man has a right to know he fathered a child...IF after knowing this you find he isnt father material then you go to court.

A child has a right to know who their father is.

As to your post you said. 'a woman had a child then LATER found out the man was a wife beater..' so doesnt seem she could use that as an excuse for not naming him prior to knowing. JMO

Its simple..before you sleep with a man..look him over and ask yourself ..would you want him to be the father of your child.

ITA Every Child has the right to know if only for medical reasons who their bio parents are.

I have a bio sister who had a Child 3 months after my Son was born. She tried to trap a guy into marring her, she went as far as keeping the baby for 3 months.

This guy, knowing how many others had also went to her to lose their virginity, declined being trapped. This was 1976 before DNA.

My bio sister knew had she tried to take him to court there would be many from the neighborhood who would tell the truth about also being with her. She gave up that precious baby girl thankfully (although I missed her as I took care of her) when she was 3 months old.

I have found my niece but have never contacted her as I am scared if it would be the right thing to do.

Sly
who got away from a sick dysfunctional bio family decades ago

[Laurieann]

Lol...I hate when that happens.


Seriously lmao
I got so excited that I actually started a thread, I guess i just lost it .
Dork I tell you. Well, at least I know my daughter comes by it honestly!

Can Blu post the light a candle link?
or someone?

[nana6]

Good night all. Have a good night and maybe tomorrow will bring us our angel Caylee:rose:

[EaudeT]

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a keylogger on the Anthony family's personal computers - definitely not on Baez's though. Not only would that violate the attorney/client privilege insofar as CA is concerned, but the privilege of any of Baez's other clients. JMOOC.Didn't the police do something about following what someone said in their mysapce in another case about a missing baby. I think he was Trenton and his mom was Miranda or Melissa or something? I thought they looked at her computer visits and what she posted by getting the records frommyspace and places like that were she had accounts instead of bugging her actual computer. However it is that they do it. I know I read somewhere that they can do that, follow you from the website and know what your doing instead of following where your computer goes.Do any of you know about that?

[summer4meplz]

Three of us are meeting for lunch next wednesday in Tulsa if anyone is interested in joining us....I don't think the others would mind if I said this...it's on topic...we will be discussing this case....so you can pm for details....

[Shellberry]

Yeh, she is probably cruising chemical sites. :rolleyes:
imo

honestly, I've wondered if she belonged to any online singles sites.


imo/jmo

[why-me]

Three of us are meeting for lunch next wednesday in Tulsa if anyone is interested in joining us....I don't think the others would mind if I said this...it's on topic...we will be discussing this case....so you can pm for details....

Sounds nice but I think I am way too far away.

[summer4meplz]

Three of us are meeting for lunch next wednesday in Tulsa if anyone is interested in joining us....I don't think the others would mind if I said this...it's on topic...we will be discussing this case....so you can pm for details....


along this same topic...they said bring a friend if anyone is interested but, honestly, I am the only one I know that follows some of these cases...I'm almost on overload between this, and OJ's new trial....I wish I could add Peterson...don't think I'll watch Spector again...it's my new hobby...It's almost like reading a book that hasn't been written yet...

[rj1212]

How much anyone is boozing isn't the topic here - it's Caylee.

Read Coldwater's warnings.


It was figurative, not literal. If you read my entire post it was relating to Casey and Caylee's latest picture that related directly to Caylee Anthony. Clearly...

[why-me]

Good Night all. God Bless little Casey

[Laurieann]

Three of us are meeting for lunch next wednesday in Tulsa if anyone is interested in joining us....I don't think the others would mind if I said this...it's on topic...we will be discussing this case....so you can pm for details....

I'm so jealous!!!


honestly, I've wondered if she belonged to any online singles sites.

imo/jmo

OMG! Can you imagine being the guy she's trying to hook u p with, and finding out who she really is??? eeewwwww

[summer4meplz]

I'm turning off the lights over here.....

[Joan Weiss]

along this same topic...they said bring a friend if anyone is interested but, honestly, I am the only one I know that follows some of these cases...I'm almost on overload between this, and OJ's new trial....I wish I could add Peterson...don't think I'll watch Spector again...it's my new hobby...It's almost like reading a book that hasn't been written yet...It's way too addictive. I think I need a recovery group. I wish I could join you, but it's far too long of a drive. I love OK, too.

[EaudeT]

It seems like it gets really slow in here at noght. Today must have benn slow to tho. cause I pretty much read most of the posts. I guess not alot happened today but I sure wish something would.
I wish there were some posters on late at night to I like reading late at night my kids are sleeping then. LOL:) I probebly should be aslepp I can't read as fast and I don't make sense every time I try to write but this girl matters to me. I feel like Caylee is a little girl I know, like someone who played with my kids. I may sound weird to say that because how can you think that about someone you never met huh?
Atleast you all share your interesting thoughts all day so I get to read them at night and think about them the next day.
Thanks for sharing it all with me.

[Shellberry]

fgs, be careful, the topic police are on the prowl.

put me on ignore b/c i'm riled up!

i still think casey and lee were speaking code in the jail tapes.

I think so too.
I was trying to decipher it, but..well, you know how that all goes.


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

potkettle...What are you talking about?

[purplepoints]

Excuse me sincerely if this is just way old stuff for everyone. I don't know why I haven't seen it before, but I hadn't, and thought others might have missed it as well and would want to see it.

Video of Casey's first appearance in court:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9a_1216408416

[summer4meplz]

It would be nice if something good could come out of this in Caylee's honor...like a new law or whatever it would be that not reporting a crime is a crime unto itself...or maybe it already is a law...
if it is a law, casey hasn't been charged with it because according to casey, Caylee was kidnapped 31 days before cindy found casey...

[luvinlife]

It's way too addictive. I think I need a recovery group. I wish I could join you, but it's far too long of a drive. I love OK, too.

I agree with the recovery group, I can't get this out of my head. My family doesn't know about the case and think I am crazy. My friends don't know about the case and I can't stop talking about it, needless to say I don't talk to them much right now. So I come here and try to get every little tiny drip of information. It is awful.

Casey where is Caylee????

She needs to be found.

Caylee:rose::rose:

[Joan Weiss]

It would be nice if something good could come out of this in Caylee's honor...like a new law or whatever it would be that not reporting a crime is a crime unto itself...or maybe it already is a law...
if it is a law, casey hasn't been charged with it because according to casey, Caylee was kidnapped 31 days before cindy found casey...As far as I know, it's not a law/crime.

[Laurieann]

Excuse me sincerely if this is just way old stuff for everyone. I don't know why I haven't seen it before, but I hadn't, and thought others might have missed it as well and would want to see it.

Video of Casey's first appearance in court:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c9a_1216408416

I had not seen that befor.
She didn't bat an eye did she. I'd have been bawling like a baby when he said no bond.

[luvinlife]

NEW THREAD THIS WAY PLEASE


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340157

[summer4meplz]

I liked it when a bunch of us emailed ng...I swear, I think she was nicer the next few nights....

I'm wondering how international this group is....We could write letters to the President...I could represent the Oklahoma Chapter of the Caylee Law...

I just want something good to come out of this....

[EaudeT]

It looks like everyone here is going to bed so i will take the hint and go to bed too. I hope I have time to read some more tomorrow. And maybe I'll get on here before everyone takes off. Sometimes I like to think outloud about things that bother me like this case and see what everyone else is thinking. It sounds weird but it really helps me. Honestly this situation has given me bad dreams. I just look at my kids and love them so much even when they get a little bratty and especailly when they look like angels alseep. why anyone could do this beats me. I know it happens alot but it still freaks me out every time I hear it happened again.
Good night everyone.

[purplepoints]

I had not seen that befor.
She didn't bat an eye did she. I'd have been bawling like a baby when he said no bond.


It is just truly amazing how calm she is - she is just so detached from reality. IMO

[Joan Weiss]

I hear ya, we should form one.
my other half thinks Im way too obsessed, I started to read the trenton case as well last night-he caught me.
he thinks Im up to no good
I told him if he ever became a mother, and had a child, he'd be interested in missing children cases as well. & he would understand why Im so involved.
This could be our child who was actually truly missing, he still didnt get it
:rolleyes:


did anyone read the globe article?
one line in there stuck out to me.



really makes me wonder what else she might have done to caylee for kristina to know that/say that.


imo/jmo/etcWhoa, that's really scary. My kids howled if they didn't want their hair combed. Maybe she knew better than to protest. :chicken: imo

[Shellberry]

It doesn't appear that Casey was that desperate when so many men were so willing to sleep with her, including LE.

Thats what I was thinking too. Why would Casey have online dating? I doubt she had many problems getting a guy.

jmho

I said I wondered if she belonged to any.
I didnt say she did.

and why on earth not? someone else to lure into her little web, someone else to steal from that didnt actually know her personally.
you can only sleep with so many people at a club or where ever before you get 'branded' and guys dont want anything to do with you knowing your history.


imo/jmo

[luvinlife]

I hear ya, we should form one.
my other half thinks Im way too obsessed, I started to read the trenton case as well last night-he caught me.
he thinks Im up to no good
I told him if he ever became a mother, and had a child, he'd be interested in missing children cases as well. & he would understand why Im so involved.
This could be our child who was actually truly missing, he still didnt get it
:rolleyes:


did anyone read the globe article?
one line in there stuck out to me.



really makes me wonder what else she might have done to caylee for kristina to know that/say that.


imo/jmo/etc





I agree what would make someone say that about someone elses child.

I found the whole article a little (okay alot) weird.

[summer4meplz]

Don't forget that she's also charged with Child Neglect, as well as her Economic crimes.


child neglect is totally different than failing to report her kidnapping...

[kaylynn]

Are there any new updates from this morning? I was gone most of the day, so I'm just checking in :)

[orbison11]

Three of us are meeting for lunch next wednesday in Tulsa if anyone is interested in joining us....I don't think the others would mind if I said this...it's on topic...we will be discussing this case....so you can pm for details....



well soon i will have an IS sleuth moving (back) to my fair town of chilliwack bc and i am hoping we can also do lunch and discuss the 'crime' of the moment

orb