Saturday Afternoon/Early Evening Caylee Anthony Discussion

[kitty1182]

Please don't take offense, but I think it was a private matter. Their decision, not yours, mine, or anyone else. I don't understand how any complete stranger to this family feels they have a right to determine which family member should be present or which one should cut the cord.
:shrug:

This is MOO. No way would I have my Dad in a delivery room while I was giving birth..You have your opinion, I have mine lady..
Shoo.

[desmom]

Pulling weeds is a good way to help relieve stress. I have used it many times during a trying time. Goodness knows, having Casey in that house has got to be stressful!

I agree...

[concernedmom]

Please don't take offense, but I think it was a private matter. Their decision, not yours, mine, or anyone else. I don't understand how any complete stranger to this family feels they have a right to determine which family member should be present or which one should cut the cord.
:shrug:

I dont think its appropriate for anyones dad to be looking at their private parts no matter the circumstances. But maybe thats just me.:shrug:

[CNTM]

LOL, pulling Casey's hair out would be better than pulling weeds..

Yesssssssssss, and I would have already done so, a long time ago!:flamemad:

[joolz]

You could be right, Joolz. It chills me to the bone to think it could be so.


I can't think of another case that has included so many things that I wish I was wrong about. :(

[baywench]

:lol: I agree. I would have been left on my own as he lay on the floor! He would have fainted the first time I brought the subject up!

Oh good grief...when my first child was born my Dad was a little embarrased when he came to see me because i think he figured out I was having sex with my husband. He would rather think I didn't HAVE any female parts let alone see them. jmo

[charm7]

Please don't take offense, but I think it was a private matter. Their decision, not yours, mine, or anyone else. I don't understand how any complete stranger to this family feels they have a right to determine which family member should be present or which one should cut the cord.
:shrug:


It may be a private matter being mere mortals we are allowed opinions:shrug:
It's not like anyone here is trying to give the Anthony's advice. Then I would agree and say nomb!:lol:

[kitty1182]

I dont think its appropriate for anyones dad to be looking at their private parts no matter the circumstances. But maybe thats just me.:shrug:

I so agree..

[Snuggles]

Very strange, if you ask me. The father of the baby should be cutting the cord.

OKay, I agree, but my husband was a marine, and deployed at the time of our sons birth, so my father and mother were in the delivery room with me, but the doctor cut the cord, and my father sat up near my head the whole time... btw he is a doctor, I did not feel weird at all, was happy to have the support as it was a difficult birth, and I was sad not having my hubby there... sorry that was convoluted, but I do not see having GA there as that odd, now cutting the cord, I dunno about that... I

[msjoni]

Yes and even casey said she was "petrified" of telling cynthia about Caylee.

Which is why I believe... Cindy is in guilt/protect mode and not in denial.....

[MajorJaybird]

:lol: I agree. I would have been left on my own as he lay on the floor! He would have fainted the first time I brought the subject up!


I could not imagine the need for him to be there to cut the cord. I think grandfathers should be in the waiting room, but that is a personal preference. Here in our local hospitals I think they allow anyone the mother says is ok to be in the delivery room. 6 yrs. ago when my grandson was born I was in the room with dil and oh my, did I ever see TOO MUCH of this girl if you catch my drift. Could not imagine my husband in that room, gosh UGH!!! BTW.. hello everyone and thanks for all the personal views of everyone on this forum.. Jaybird:seeya:

[CNTM]

Oh good grief...when my first child was born my Dad was a little embarrased when he came to see me because i think he figured out I was having sex with my husband. He would rather think I didn't HAVE any female parts let alone see them. jmo

:lol::lol:

[day2day]

:lol: I agree. I would have been left on my own as he lay on the floor! He would have fainted the first time I brought the subject up!

Exactly. I will never understand these folks.:shrug:

[True2Blues]

No worries. Have you seen this thread yet?
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339979

Every time they open their mouths I become more convinced that Casey murdered Caylee and George and Cindy helped her cover up.

[Snuggles]

I dont think its appropriate for anyones dad to be looking at their private parts no matter the circumstances. But maybe thats just me.:shrug:

okie, I agree, and mine never did, like I said he sat up near my head... just wanted to clear that up before anyone thinks I am weird, or have an odd family dynamic...:chicken:

[concernedmom]

okie, I agree, and mine never did, like I said he sat up near my head... just wanted to clear that up before anyone thinks I am weird, or have an odd family dynamic...:chicken:
:lol::lol:

[MoonFlwr]

OKay, I agree, but my husband was a marine, and deployed at the time of our sons birth, so my father and mother were in the delivery room with me, but the doctor cut the cord, and my father sat up near my head the whole time... btw he is a doctor, I did not feel weird at all, was happy to have the support as it was a difficult birth, and I was sad not having my hubby there... sorry that was convoluted, but I do not see having GA there as that odd, now cutting the cord, I dunno about that... I

Great to hear a different opinion on this matter! Thanks for sharing! :)

[mojito]

Just getting back to the Board...what's up with the stacks of stuff in the garage at the Anthony's? TIA

[CNTM]

OKay, I agree, but my husband was a marine, and deployed at the time of our sons birth, so my father and mother were in the delivery room with me, but the doctor cut the cord, and my father sat up near my head the whole time... btw he is a doctor, I did not feel weird at all, was happy to have the support as it was a difficult birth, and I was sad not having my hubby there... sorry that was convoluted, but I do not see having GA there as that odd, now cutting the cord, I dunno about that... I

The way you related your experience does not sound so weird. It sounds like a caring family there for their daughter. :rose:

[day2day]

Every time they open their mouths I become more convinced that Casey murdered Caylee and George and Cindy helped her cover up.

I agree True. I believe that they are doin more than standing by their daughter. jmo..

[kitty1182]

The way you related your experience does not sound so weird. It sounds like a caring family there for their daughter. :rose:

I agree...:)

[True2Blues]

okie, I agree, and mine never did, like I said he sat up near my head... just wanted to clear that up before anyone thinks I am weird, or have an odd family dynamic...:chicken:

That's the other end from where the cord is, that's different. :)

[concernedmom]

Just getting back to the Board...what's up with the stacks of stuff in the garage at the Anthony's? TIA

They may be Caylee T Shirts but Anthonys may be packing up someones things too.

[desmom]

Future Grandfather in the Delivery Room - Supportive or Perverse? (http://weblog.momaroo.com/momaroo/674042534/future-grandfather-in-the-delivery-room---supportive-or-perverse.html)

Grandfather in delivery room? (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080404080913AA4fVOZ)

[MoonFlwr]

Hear, hear Frankie! :beer:

(Tried quoting your post but IS seemed to be playing up. I was hear-hearing your statement about the origin of the information re the cutting of the cord).

[Snuggles]

I believe that most defense oriented members will say the opposite of what we are feeling. But that aside, it would be nice to know where the story originated.

not defense oriented at all, and no not trying to pick a fight, I do think its a lil over the line that he cut the cord, I think (doctor or no) I may have tried to bite my Dad's hand off if he got anywhere near my areas!!!! I just thought I would share a different experience, but really why was this bit leaked? I mean are the Anthony's leaking it to say "look how close we are" cause if they are I would say "People this makes you look even more freakish than you already do!" without some kinda back story it makes them look a bit too close, and maybe just a bit too domineering and take charge with everything! jmo

[mojito]

They may be Caylee T Shirts but Anthonys may be packing up someones things too.

Definitely looks like more than was there earlier. Do we know who is stacking it up?

[Velouria]

[QUOTE}Originally Posted by $MakesUCuter
Please don't take offense, but I think it was a private matter. Their decision, not yours, mine, or anyone else. I don't understand how any complete stranger to this family feels they have a right to determine which family member should be present or which one should cut the cord. [/QUOTE]


How could we determine a decision that was made three years ago?

[True2Blues]

Just getting back to the Board...what's up with the stacks of stuff in the garage at the Anthony's? TIA


There's quite a bit in there. They've probably packed up Caylee's room. I'm sure they all know she won't be needing it again.:mad:

[CNTM]

The sun is just right on that window and if you enlarge your screen, you can make out Caylees little face on the poster!:rose:

[Snuggles]

The way you related your experience does not sound so weird. It sounds like a caring family there for their daughter. :rose:

Thank you, it was, and it was a very difficult time, so I needed all the help and support I could get, but anyway, I dunno about the Anthony's with everything we have heard about them, it does come off sounding perverse

[day2day]

OKay, I agree, but my husband was a marine, and deployed at the time of our sons birth, so my father and mother were in the delivery room with me, but the doctor cut the cord, and my father sat up near my head the whole time... btw he is a doctor, I did not feel weird at all, was happy to have the support as it was a difficult birth, and I was sad not having my hubby there... sorry that was convoluted, but I do not see having GA there as that odd, now cutting the cord, I dunno about that... I

**hugs**...i'm sorry that your husband couldn't be with you. I am happy you had someone with ya. And i agree..GA cuttin the cord is umm...strange!

[CNTM]

There's quite a bit in there. They've probably packed up Caylee's room. I'm sure they all know she won't be needing it again.:mad:

Maybe someone else in the home is going somewhere and won't be needing personal belongings!

[concernedmom]

not defense oriented at all, and no not trying to pick a fight, I do think its a lil over the line that he cut the cord, I think (doctor or no) I may have tried to bite my Dad's hand off if he got anywhere near my areas!!!! I just thought I would share a different experience, but really why was this bit leaked? I mean are the Anthony's leaking it to say "look how close we are" cause if they are I would say "People this makes you look even more freakish than you already do!" without some kinda back story it makes them look a bit too close, and maybe just a bit too domineering and take charge with everything! jmo


George cutting the cord and Cindy holding the baby first is good for Caseys defense. Looks like they took possession of the baby from the beginning. It must have been down hill for Casey from there on.

[Snuggles]

They may be Caylee T Shirts but Anthonys may be packing up someones things too.

ohhhhohhhh anyone think they are Casey's? Maybe they finally woke up, smelled the BullSh** and decided to evict the slacker! ohhh, or maybe they are some Caylee items:(

[True2Blues]

not defense oriented at all, and no not trying to pick a fight, I do think its a lil over the line that he cut the cord, I think (doctor or no) I may have tried to bite my Dad's hand off if he got anywhere near my areas!!!! I just thought I would share a different experience, but really why was this bit leaked? I mean are the Anthony's leaking it to say "look how close we are" cause if they are I would say "People this makes you look even more freakish than you already do!" without some kinda back story it makes them look a bit too close, and maybe just a bit too domineering and take charge with everything! jmo

It certainly makes it sound like G & C were claiming the baby as "theirs".

[FrankieBones1]

Snuggles: Your situation wasn't even close to Casey's. I'm glad your dad was there for support (at the head of the bed).

[Ionmhainn]

Would I be correct in asssuming there has been no news today? :biggrin:

[kakax]

I have to say, it has been interesting looking at another city's news. Every time I go on an Orlando site, I see something interesting. Yesterday it was the SUV in the pool, today it was a naked dog walker tased by police.

[True2Blues]

George cutting the cord and Cindy holding the baby first is good for Caseys defense. Looks like they took possession of the baby from the beginning. It must have been down hill for Casey from there on.

Either that or Casey didn't want anything to do with the baby.

[Snuggles]

I am a lil slow tonight.. Casey is 22 now right? Well that would make her 19 or 20 when she had Caylee? You know they keep (IMO) trying to make her out to be a young mom, that is not that young, i dunno where i am going with this...

[kakax]

Would I be correct in asssuming there has been no news today? :biggrin:


Obviously, rofl! Ice cream man came by the house...Cindy pulled weeds. That is about it.

[joolz]

George cutting the cord and Cindy holding the baby first is good for Caseys defense. Looks like they took possession of the baby from the beginning. It must have been down hill for Casey from there on.


That's a really good point for the defense, but I think there's another way for the prosecution to spin it: that she had no desire to have this baby at all and her parents were overbearing in "persuading" her to keep Caylee. So Casey was resentful from day one. JMO

[CNTM]

What???? What are you looking at? Where do you see Caylee's face?

The window to the right of the front door. In the center of the bottom half. It was discussed a day or two ago and we could not figure out exactly what was there.

[mojito]

I'm beginning to question my own sanity. Seriously. Ya know, I can't get away with crap. My parents don't even live near me (8 hours away), but I can feel guilty as crap by a phone call. Do you know what I'm saying?

Every single night I say "It's not fair, God, that she's getting away with this." And then I remember all of the other people who have slipped through the cracks of the justice system. Yet...I can't seem to pull myself away from it. Some days I try not to even look at the Board because I know there's not going to be anything new on it. Other days I want so bad for something to break and there to be some resolution to this case.

Just thoughts...

[day2day]

It certainly makes it sound like G & C were claiming the baby as "theirs".

Exactly. I would love to know more about this little family before Caylee vanished. jmo

[joolz]

Either that or Casey didn't want anything to do with the baby.

:D True. We think the same way.

[CNTM]

That's a really good point for the defense, but I think there's another way for the prosecution to spin it: that she had no desire to have this baby at all and her parents were overbearing in "persuading" her to keep Caylee. So Casey was resentful from day one. JMO

I think that may be it joolz!

[Snuggles]

I have to say, it has been interesting looking at another city's news. Every time I go on an Orlando site, I see something interesting. Yesterday it was the SUV in the pool, today it was a naked dog walker tased by police.

Wow, nothing like that ever happens here! Goodness, Orlando has a nudity problem! First the Anthony's nude swimming neighbor, and now a dog walker, HA! Okay, now I cannot stop laughing....:lol:

[True2Blues]

Maybe someone else in the home is going somewhere and won't be needing personal belongings!

That works for me.

[CNTM]

That works for me.


We can only hope and pray!

[True2Blues]

:D True. We think the same way.

:tongue: Great minds and all that.

[day2day]

I'm beginning to question my own sanity. Seriously. Ya know, I can't get away with crap. My parents don't even live near me (8 hours away), but I can feel guilty as crap by a phone call. Do you know what I'm saying?

Every single night I say "It's not fair, God, that she's getting away with this." And then I remember all of the other people who have slipped through the cracks of the justice system. Yet...I can't seem to pull myself away from it. Some days I try not to even look at the Board because I know there's not going to be anything new on it. Other days I want so bad for something to break and there to be some resolution to this case.

Just thoughts...

My littleone and I are lucky to have my Dad very close. That being said..he can tell in a heartbeat if something isn't right with me. I could NEVER lie to him. He would call me on it in two seconds.
This is what I have been praying when i get frustrated and believe me its OFTEN. Thanks to Rev. Grund for teaching it to me...

"I pray that every hidden thing be revealed. What ever was done in the dark shall be brought into the Light. What ever was whispered in the darkness shall be shouted for all to hear.

[kakax]

I'm beginning to question my own sanity. Seriously. Ya know, I can't get away with crap. My parents don't even live near me (8 hours away), but I can feel guilty as crap by a phone call. Do you know what I'm saying?

Every single night I say "It's not fair, God, that she's getting away with this." And then I remember all of the other people who have slipped through the cracks of the justice system. Yet...I can't seem to pull myself away from it. Some days I try not to even look at the Board because I know there's not going to be anything new on it. Other days I want so bad for something to break and there to be some resolution to this case.

Just thoughts...


I was thinking this just last night. After hearing those audio tapes, I was very depressed. At the end of tape, the detective had a very quiet tone. I felt like he new they were going to have a difficult time finding her, if ever. We have been hearing new arrests for a week now, but nothing has happened.

I pray there will be some justice in this case. I believe there will be.

[Amy]

OKay, I agree, but my husband was a marine, and deployed at the time of our sons birth, so my father and mother were in the delivery room with me, but the doctor cut the cord, and my father sat up near my head the whole time... btw he is a doctor, I did not feel weird at all, was happy to have the support as it was a difficult birth, and I was sad not having my hubby there... sorry that was convoluted, but I do not see having GA there as that odd, now cutting the cord, I dunno about that... I


I work in maternal child. As a rule, the people in attendance during delivery other than the father (for those who are there) are more likely to be the parents' moms or sisters. However, there have been instances when the mom's dad was there. @ least one time, the mom's brother was there. The choice as to who will be present is up to the mom----we honor her request no matter who she aloows to stay.

[bluwaters]

I have to say, it has been interesting looking at another city's news. Every time I go on an Orlando site, I see something interesting. Yesterday it was the SUV in the pool, today it was a naked dog walker tased by police.
errr,actually, the dog walker was in Tallahassee. :o

[5boxersmom]

I am a lil slow tonight.. Casey is 22 now right? Well that would make her 19 or 20 when she had Caylee? You know they keep (IMO) trying to make her out to be a young mom, that is not that young, i dunno where i am going with this...


I see what your are saying. It is not like she was 15 or 16. She was 19. An adult. Younger people then her are over in Iraq and Afg.


jmo

Caylee:rose:

[kakax]

errr,actually, the dog walker was in Tallahassee. :o

Made you look, made you look LOL!! I didn't actually read the article rofl!

[Joan Weiss]

I understand about them needing to get back to a somewhat normal routine, but to me it just seems like they are flaunting/playing to the cameras. No way would I be able to go out and pull weeds under those circumstances.I totally agree. I also think the bodyguard accompanying her is absurd. Nobody is walking off the sidewalk. I think she's provocative, and now she's trying to make it look like SHE needs protection. imo

[kakax]

Sorry 'bout that. I see what your referring to now.

Yesterday, there was a video of someone peeking out at the "monster" protesters and you could see the flier of Caylee then. For a few days we had been wondering what the shadow was on the window.

[bluwaters]

Made you look, made you look LOL!! I didn't actually read the article rofl!
you don't get a link for that! :punch: lol

So, do we think there will be any action tonight?
Will Casey return to jail?

[Snuggles]

I see what your are saying. It is not like she was 15 or 16. She was 19. An adult. Younger people then her are over in Iraq and Afg.


jmo

Caylee:rose:

I know, right?! I think you explained it better than me, I just do not buy the whole immature thing because of her age! I will buy that she is a self centered, spoiled, immature little *itch, but I will not buy that that, or anything she did to Caylee was because she was a young mother... and if that is their excuse then someone needs to blow that out of the water with something like "Well whose fault is it that she was a young mother?" the phrase if you can't do the time, dont do the crime comes to mind...jmo

[kitty1182]

I totally agree. I also think the bodyguard accompanying her is absurd. Nobody is walking off the sidewalk. I think she's provocative, and now she's trying to make it look like SHE needs protection. imo

Right!!! I think the whole family think they are rock stars now..MOO

[kakax]

you don't get a link for that! :punch: lol

So, do we think there will be any action tonight?
Will Casey return to jail?

Rofl!

I don't think there will be any action. It has been so quiet all day. Maybe it is the quiet before the storm...I can wish...

[kitty1182]

Rofl!

I don't think there will be any action. It has been so quiet all day. Maybe it is the quiet before the storm...I can wish...

Isn't there a full moon tonight?:read:

[baywench]

$MakesUCuter - I'm trying to give you respect but do you realize how passive-agressive your posts are? Of course we don't determine people's decisions. We do have on opinions on them however and this is a message board. jmo

[kitty1182]

She, also, said, "If I didn't want Caylee, I'd hand over custody to my mother." She didn't say "to my parents". Or even, "I'd ask my mother if she would take custody."

Correct!!!
:seeya:

[kakax]

Breaking news....

There is a new angle from the web cam. :)

[bluwaters]

Isn't there a full moon tonight?:read:
98% - pret near full! :chicken:

[5boxersmom]

I know, right?! I think you explained it better than me, I just do not buy the whole immature thing because of her age! I will buy that she is a self centered, spoiled, immature little *itch, but I will not buy that that, or anything she did to Caylee was because she was a young mother... and if that is their excuse then someone needs to blow that out of the water with something like "Well whose fault is it that she was a young mother?" the phrase if you can't do the time, dont do the crime comes to mind...jmo


Yes, I will tell you something else I found strange. When it was said her mom was at her interview at US with her? Why couldn't she go herself?

I said earlier they act like she is 12 not 22. The way they talk about her, treat her. Just disgusting. jmo

Caylee:rose:

[kakax]

Isn't there a full moon tonight?:read:


9/15 is a full moon...

[oldbluesmith]

Thank you! :seeya:YRVW CNTM. I hope you enjoy your read.

[Snuggles]

While I realize that this is meandering off topic, I agree with what your concerns are.

I was in the delivery room with both of my kids but it was mostly to offer support. Not sure why I would have wanted to "cut the cord" unless, of course, that was the "Trendy Thing of the Day" to do.

I am aware of other births where practically everyone is invited and I see absolutely no reason for anyone of them to be there.

Not that there is any real similarity but "Private Parts" being "Private Parts" - why would this be a whole lot different than inviting "The Fam" to come over and witness a Prostate Exam?

But maybe I'm just old-fashioned. :shrug:
:lol:ewwwwwwwwwwww!~

[kitty1182]

While I realize that this is meandering off topic, I agree with what your concerns are.

I was in the delivery room with both of my kids but it was mostly to offer support. Not sure why I would have wanted to "cut the cord" unless, of course, that was the "Trendy Thing of the Day" to do.

I am aware of other births where practically everyone is invited and I see absolutely no reason for anyone of them to be there.

Not that there is any real similarity but "Private Parts" being "Private Parts" - why would this be a whole lot different than inviting "The Fam" to come over and witness a Prostate Exam?

But maybe I'm just old-fashioned. :shrug:

True..When hubby has one, I don't go in to see it..LOL

[True2Blues]

I totally agree. I also think the bodyguard accompanying her is absurd. Nobody is walking off the sidewalk. I think she's provocative, and now she's trying to make it look like SHE needs protection. imo

It's ridiculous. No one has ever tried to attack any of the Anthonys. The Anthonys on the other hand feel free to strike out at anyone they please.

As has been stated before, it's other people who need protection from the Anthonys.

[day2day]

She, also, said, "If I didn't want Caylee, I'd hand over custody to my mother." She didn't say "to my parents". Or even, "I'd ask my mother if she would take custody."

Adoption really is a great thing. I thank God that my littleones birth mom made the decision to allow me to raise her. And I thank my Dad for all he did to help get the adoption through. Imo-Casey wasn't ready for a baby and Caylee would have been better off with someone else. I think Casey used Caylee against her parents. I wonder what she is using now. JMO

[Boxer]

Right!!! I think the whole family think they are rock stars now..MOO


The phrase soup sandwich comes to mind...

They do all act like they are some kind of rare phenomenon.

[kitty1182]

Hey, kitty! :seeya:

Hi babe:seeya:

[kitty1182]

The phrase soup sandwich comes to mind...

They do all act like they are some kind of rare phenomenon.

Soup sandwich..LOL :D

[Snuggles]

Yes, I will tell you something else I found strange. When it was said her mom was at her interview at US with her? Why couldn't she go herself?

I said earlier they act like she is 12 not 22. The way they talk about her, treat her. Just disgusting. jmo

Caylee:rose:

Sounds like Cindy runs that family, and maybe she wanted to make sure Casey didnt say anything that she had not approved. I can totally see Cindy needing to monitor everything, especially seeing as Casey is not very trustworthy, or accurate in her statements, wouldnt want her to incriminate or belittle good old GA and Cindy in a nationally read mag!jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Was the carseat ever mentioned in the 400 pg document released? Was casey ever asked about it? I'm sure she would say that Zenaida had it, but I'm surprised (if) it was never asked about.It was in the car. LE has it.

[desmom]

Re: the bonding issue....If a mother can only bond with their child because they hold them in the delivery room, then I guess adoptive mother's never bond with their children. IOW, bull hockey......who holds the baby lst does not have one iota to do with Casey did not bond because she did not hold Caylee first.
And unless Cindy delivered the Caylee, she was not the lst one to hold her.

Things have changed dramatically over the years. Fathers are no longer banned to a waiting room. Mother's do not spend 7 days in the hospital for a normal delivery. Most hospitals do not move the mother from the labor ward to the delivery ward to recovery to a room anymore either.

As long as the Mother to be, the Dr. and the hospital do not have a problem with who is in the delivery, IMO, it is no one else's business.


jmo

[kitty1182]

Sorry folks,

Is it possible we are all losing focus here?

Personally I think that finding Caylee's bio dad is extremely important.

I am not suggesting one thing or another, but let's get real.

I don't think Miss Casey or anyone knows who he is..

[Joan Weiss]

Adoption really is a great thing. I thank God that my littleones birth mom made the decision to allow me to raise her. And I thank my Dad for all he did to help get the adoption through. Imo-Casey wasn't ready for a baby and Caylee would have been better off with someone else. I think Casey used Caylee against her parents. I wonder what she is using now. JMOInformation. The truth. imo

[5boxersmom]

Sounds like Cindy runs that family, and maybe she wanted to make sure Casey didnt say anything that she had not approved. I can totally see Cindy needing to monitor everything, especially seeing as Casey is not very trustworthy, or accurate in her statements, wouldnt want her to incriminate or belittle good old GA and Cindy in a nationally read mag!jmo

Oh no. I shouldn't have put US. I meant Univeral Studios. When she went for that interview for her job what 3 years ago? :) Sorry I confused ya.

Caylee:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

IMO She is still using Caylee against them by withholding her. Casey is jealous to the bone. This is her moment.Yes. The shrink on NG said she was jealous.

[Snuggles]

IMO She is still using Caylee against them by withholding her. Casey is jealous to the bone. This is her moment.she might just be using herself too, something to the affect of, if you turn on me, I am going to be out of your life too! Then they would lose two people in one fell swoop... kinda sad, but I can see Casey being that evil as to make them choose her over Caylee...imo

[5boxersmom]

IMO She is still using Caylee against them by withholding her. Casey is jealous to the bone. This is her moment.

Yep......


Caylee:rose:

[Boxer]

IMO She is still using Caylee against them by withholding her. Casey is jealous to the bone. This is her moment.


yup, calling you guys...what a waste!

[bluwaters]

I don't think Miss Casey or anyone knows who he is..

I agree with knot though, I also think Caylee's paternity is important.
The FBI expressed interest as well. Perhaps they know?

[rj1212]

Sorry folks,

Is it possible we are all losing focus here?

Personally I think that finding Caylee's bio dad is extremely important.

I am not suggesting one thing or another, but let's get real.

I think it's VERY relevant...especially when it seems to be imperative to know whose light is on at the Anthony's by way of the cam...

Seems to me that a Dad is very important...but for some reason in this case Casey, George, and Cindy apparently didn't think it was important to know.

I'm with you on that...

[baywench]

Joan, you are so correct. She wants to be the victim, not fair that her daughter should have all the limelight. Funny, weeks ago when she was saying she was getting threats, she was able to prance out without body guards. What changes now??? They are going for the drama, cuz the more drama, the more limelight, the bigger book deals, the more press fawning for her attention. The RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD HAVE BEEN TO PUT CASEY IN ANOTHER LOCATION, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, AND HER MISSING GRANDDAUGHTER. oH, BUT i FORGOT, they do not know right from wrong, half truth from whole lie, CINDY,CINDY,CINDY how quickly the love for you grandaughter faded as soon as the big lights of TV flashed in your face.


Great post. ITA You hit it right on the head. mo

[FrankieBones1]

Sorry folks,

Is it possible we are all losing focus here?

Personally I think that finding Caylee's bio dad is extremely important.

I am not suggesting one thing or another, but let's get real.Why do you feel this way? Do you think that Caylee's father could shed some light on all of this? Is it possible Casey told him something long before the birth that is disturbing?

[ccat]

Sorry folks,

Is it possible we are all losing focus here?

Personally I think that finding Caylee's bio dad is extremely important.

I am not suggesting one thing or another, but let's get real.

Maybe he is married.

[kitty1182]

Yes. The shrink on NG said she was jealous.

That smile and wave to mommy and daddy as she was leaving the courtroom that day..
Like she was saying"it's just me now mommy and daddy"..

MOO

[day2day]

Re: the bonding issue....If a mother can only bond with their child because they hold them in the delivery room, then I guess adoptive mother's never bond with their children. IOW, bull hockey......who holds the baby lst does not have one iota to do with Casey did not bond because she did not hold Caylee first.
And unless Cindy delivered the Caylee, she was not the lst one to hold her.

Things have changed dramatically over the years. Fathers are no longer banned to a waiting room. Mother's do not spend 7 days in the hospital for a normal delivery. Most hospitals do not move the mother from the labor ward to the delivery ward to recovery to a room anymore either.

As long as the Mother to be, the Dr. and the hospital do not have a problem with who is in the delivery, IMO, it is no one else's business.


jmo

I agree -adoptive mothers do bond with their babies. As for it not being anyones business...some things are better left NOT being told. THIS was one of them. They made it our business and i think its ...creepy. jmo

[Boxer]

That smile and wave to mommy and daddy as she was leaving the courtroom that day..
Like she was saying"it's just me now mommy and daddy"..

MOO


rotten thing is, they've embraced it.

[FrankieBones1]

Maybe he is married.That is one angle I hadn't thought of! Very interesting.

[kitty1182]

I agree with knot though, I also think Caylee's paternity is important.
The FBI expressed interest as well. Perhaps they know?

We could be shocked at what they know..:) I bet a lot is being held back till court..

[Amy]

not defense oriented at all, and no not trying to pick a fight, I do think its a lil over the line that he cut the cord, I think (doctor or no) I may have tried to bite my Dad's hand off if he got anywhere near my areas!!!! I just thought I would share a different experience, but really why was this bit leaked? I mean are the Anthony's leaking it to say "look how close we are" cause if they are I would say "People this makes you look even more freakish than you already do!" without some kinda back story it makes them look a bit too close, and maybe just a bit too domineering and take charge with everything! jmo


The dad didn't have to see anything---the doc lays the baby on the mom's abd (which is covered with a drape) and from the side, cuts the cord, doesn't see anything of the perineum. She obviously didn't have the father of the baby there for support, so it makes sense for her parents to are there for her. Every mom should have someone "there" for her during labor and deliver, if she wants them.

[5boxersmom]

That smile and wave to mommy and daddy as she was leaving the courtroom that day..
Like she was saying"it's just me now mommy and daddy"..

MOO

She was acting like a little girl wasn't she?

jmo


Caylee:rose:

[st777jo]

Sorry folks,

Is it possible we are all losing focus here?

Personally I think that finding Caylee's bio dad is extremely important.

I am not suggesting one thing or another, but let's get real.

I think so too. They had and have a right as much as the Anthonys. And with Cindy as a nurse, she should have more understanding of that.

[rj1212]

Maybe he is married.


Wow...up until now I never thought of that...:eek:

Thanks...

[kitty1182]

rotten thing is, they've embraced it.

I agree!!!!!

[Boxer]

THe Anthony's IRS information? I have always said this will prove that Cindy knew Casey was not working at a "real" job.

The year bankruptcy was filled and what dollar amount it was for? I think bankrupcy is public information.

In Oklahoma it is, and it's found in Federal District Court I think..

[day2day]

Information. The truth. imo

True. I think Caylee is why Casey got by stealing from her grandparents. jmo

[trich]

Oh no. I shouldn't have put US. I meant Univeral Studios. When she went for that interview for her job what 3 years ago? :) Sorry I confused ya.

Caylee:rose:



If that is true that is outrageous.
Who takes their mother on an interview for a job.:shrug:

[CNTM]

Sorry 'bout that. I see what your referring to now.

No prob. I guess I did sound a bit Miss Cleo-ish if you didn't know what I meant! :lol:

[True2Blues]

Adoption really is a great thing. I thank God that my littleones birth mom made the decision to allow me to raise her. And I thank my Dad for all he did to help get the adoption through. Imo-Casey wasn't ready for a baby and Caylee would have been better off with someone else. I think Casey used Caylee against her parents. I wonder what she is using now. JMO

I wonder too.

I think you're exactly right about Casey. She didn't want Caylee and saw her only as a way of controlling her parents. I believe that Cindy made Casey make keep Caylee as both a punishment and a means to try and 'force' Casey into settling down and becoming supermom.

If anyone in that family had truly ever cared about that child, they would have allowed her to go to a home where she was wanted and would be loved.

[kitty1182]

She was acting like a little girl wasn't she?

jmo


Caylee:rose:

Yes she was..She is now the baby in the family again..MOO

[Amy]

Definitely looks like more than was there earlier. Do we know who is stacking it up?

Well, there is probably baby stuff that will no longer be needed. Maybe they are packing to move? Once this is all over, one way or the other, they just may want to live somewhere else.

[desmom]

The dad didn't have to see anything---the doc lays the baby on the mom's abd (which is covered with a drape) and from the side, cuts the cord, doesn't see anything of the perineum. She obviously didn't have the father of the baby there for support, so it makes sense for her parents to are there for her. Every mom should have someone "there" for her during labor and deliver, if she wants them.

Thank you.

[Boxer]

maybe he's on a little 5-10 vaca himself?

[day2day]

We could be shocked at what they know..:) I bet a lot is being held back till court..

I agree. I think we all will be shocked. jmo

[Snuggles]

If that is true that is outrageous.
Who takes their mother on an interview for a job.:shrug:
ohhh sorry, I thought you meant a mag, as in US magazine, on a job interview? now that is funny, pathetic, and funny, goodness, what an overbearing mother!!! imo

[bluwaters]

Wow...up until now I never thought of that...:eek:

Thanks...

Cindy told Greta he was married during the house interview.
He had another family and then he sadly, but conveniently, passed away.
It is one of the stories Cindy has told about Caylee's dad.

[CNTM]

Never mind. I erred!

[Boxer]

ohhh sorry, I thought you meant a mag, as in US magazine, on a job interview? now that is funny, pathetic, and funny, goodness, what an overbearing mother!!! imo


maybe Cindy wanted to be sure she went to the interview. She had already faked one job at Sports Authority, didn't she?

[st777jo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0000dori View Post
Joan, you are so correct. She wants to be the victim, not fair that her daughter should have all the limelight. Funny, weeks ago when she was saying she was getting threats, she was able to prance out without body guards. What changes now??? They are going for the drama, cuz the more drama, the more limelight, the bigger book deals, the more press fawning for her attention. The RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD HAVE BEEN TO PUT CASEY IN ANOTHER LOCATION, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, AND HER MISSING GRANDDAUGHTER. oH, BUT i FORGOT, they do not know right from wrong, half truth from whole lie, CINDY,CINDY,CINDY how quickly the love for you grandaughter faded as soon as the big lights of TV flashed in your face.
-----------------


Terrific post.

[ccat]

Well, there is probably baby stuff that will no longer be needed. Maybe they are packing to move? Once this is all over, one way or the other, they just may want to live somewhere else.

They may lose everything defending their daughter.

[Snuggles]

well good night all, thanks for the discussions!:) Hopefully there will be some closer in this case soon! I will be praying for it! It is movie night in my house, and my son and hubby are calling! Ya'll take care, and everyone say a lil prayer for Caylee, and the people in Tx!:seeya:

[baywench]

ohhh sorry, I thought you meant a mag, as in US magazine, on a job interview? now that is funny, pathetic, and funny, goodness, what an overbearing mother!!! imo


ROFL....I can't get the mental picture outta of my head of my daughters' faces if I was with them at a job interview. Too funny. This family is too twisted. The poor interviewer:eek:

[nc1948]

I think they know Caylee is dead and they've written her off and are now attempting to make as much $$ off of the situation as they can. Not to mention hoping to be able to keep appearing on TV telling their stories for years to come.

If it was one of my Mom's grandchildren, we'd have to forcefully drag her home and make her eat and sleep. We'd all be out there looking day and night, not sitting on our duffs waiting for a chance to mug in front of a camera.


Remember Cindy said they wanted life to get back to normal. Mayb she tended the yard in her normal life.

Some said that LE had told the Anthonys not to search. Don' know if it is true, but they would have to lock me up to keep me from searching for my Grandchild. Also if it were one of my children suspected they would still be in jail. And I would be much to busy searching to visit them. This is and always has been about Casey for the Anthonys. IT is not now or ever been about Caylee. JMHO

[kitty1182]

well good night all, thanks for the discussions!:) Hopefully there will be some closer in this case soon! I will be praying for it! It is movie night in my house, and my son and hubby are calling! Ya'll take care, and everyone say a lil prayer for Caylee, and the people in Tx!:seeya:

Good night! :seeya:

[kitty1182]

Good idea! No soup sandwich for YOU! :biggrin:

LOL..LOL :tongue:

I wish I could put that in my sig, but guess I better not..

[CNTM]

well good night all, thanks for the discussions!:) Hopefully there will be some closer in this case soon! I will be praying for it! It is movie night in my house, and my son and hubby are calling! Ya'll take care, and everyone say a lil prayer for Caylee, and the people in Tx!:seeya:

Night Snuggles! Family time, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh great!! :beer:

[Amy]

I totally agree. I also think the bodyguard accompanying her is absurd. Nobody is walking off the sidewalk. I think she's provocative, and now she's trying to make it look like SHE needs protection. imo

I caught a glimse of a video the other day where Cindy, with her stern? look on her face is doing something @ the edge of the yard. Now, with all the carp going on, why in the world would she even be going out to pull weeds right where all the people are, anyway? Wonder if she did her own yard work prior to all this? Or, maybe (to give her the benefit of the doubt) she just has to do SOMETHING to keep busy, keep her mind off her troubles. Oh, yeah, guess it would be kind of hard to keep her mind otherwise occupied when she went right up to the people who would surely remind her. :shrug:

[True2Blues]

They may lose everything defending their daughter.

I'd feel really sorry for them if the last part of that sentence was "looking for their Granddaughter."

As it stands, I couldn't care less.

[why-me]

A lot of the confusion seems to come from the fact that for all intents and purposes, until Caylee disappeared, Casey seemed to be at the least a decent mother. All witness statements from her friends that I read said she seemed loving and that shetook care of Caylee..

From my own perspective on motherly love.. my own mother was more than capable of being very loving and caring, at times - especially those times when she had an audience.

She was also the least maternal human being on earth and there were times in my late childhood into adolescence when she made me fear for my own safety. And yet, to even my close friends, it appeared that she was a good mom and very loving. I am not denying that she loves me, in her fashion, but she is also mentally ill and when in a rage, terrifying.

I only throw this out there to try to speak to the dual images of Casey from prior to Caylee's disappearance and what must have happened to now. All MOO of course...

Are we related?? I could swear you are talking about my mother. On top of what you said, mine LOVES to pass any and all information on about us kids, good or bad. Absolutely no prirvacy whatsoever. I am the complete opposite with my son.

[day2day]

well good night all, thanks for the discussions!:) Hopefully there will be some closer in this case soon! I will be praying for it! It is movie night in my house, and my son and hubby are calling! Ya'll take care, and everyone say a lil prayer for Caylee, and the people in Tx!:seeya:

Night Snuggles..have a great movie night and snuggle up!!

:rose: Many prayers for Caylee!! ..and the people in texas!

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, you are so correct. She wants to be the victim, not fair that her daughter should have all the limelight. Funny, weeks ago when she was saying she was getting threats, she was able to prance out without body guards. What changes now??? They are going for the drama, cuz the more drama, the more limelight, the bigger book deals, the more press fawning for her attention. The RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD HAVE BEEN TO PUT CASEY IN ANOTHER LOCATION, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, AND HER MISSING GRANDDAUGHTER. oH, BUT i FORGOT, they do not know right from wrong, half truth from whole lie, CINDY,CINDY,CINDY how quickly the love for you grandaughter faded as soon as the big lights of TV flashed in your face.It seems to me that Cindy is also jealous, and is competing with Casey for the attention of the media. I recall one of her first appearances, I think it was Greta or NG. She went on and on about how she wasn't sleeping, eating, how tired she was, etc. I was appalled. She considers herself a victim. She's no different than Casey, imo. Casey said in her phone call from jail that all everybody cares about is Caylee.

They are both focused on their victimhood, and Lee is now approaching the same level with his attack on the woman with the dog, and the incident in the driveway. Worse yet, too many are responding to that, and giving him a license to abuse whomever gets in his way.

I don't think they are even thinking about Caylee. George, imo, strikes out and thinks about it later. He seems angry at EVERYONE, but in actuality, he's angry at himself, imo.

I don't think we can count on any of them to worry about Caylee. She's just the catalyst for their neurotic acting out.

To me, she's a beautiful little child, who was stuck in a hornet's nest.


Caylee :rose:

jmo

[SavannahStar]

There has been so many lies about who the father is, that it makes you think they all really know, and it is just part of their controlling behavior to not have competing grandparents in the picture, OR they know that Casey just slept with so many boys it would be impossible to know, so a ficticious one who conveniently died sounded better, or Cindy's other possibility was that she said it was a married man who moved away (find this hard to believe).

I don't think who the father is is relevant at all, to anything. And as far as the paternal grandparents, they only have rights if the father is on the birth certificate. Cindy said he wasn't, right? Now if the father, and his parents, knew about the child and wanted rights and responsibilities toward Caylee, they could have petitioned the court for paternity testing.

[CNTM]

I caught a glimse of a video the other day where Cindy, with her stern? look on her face is doing something @ the edge of the yard. Now, with all the carp going on, why in the world would she even be going out to pull weeds right where all the people are, anyway? Wonder if she did her own yard work prior to all this? Or, maybe (to give her the benefit of the doubt) she just has to do SOMETHING to keep busy, keep her mind off her troubles. Oh, yeah, guess it would be kind of hard to keep her mind otherwise occupied when she went right up to the people who would surely remind her. :shrug:

I have to admit, their yard was very nicely landscaped and weed free in the beginning. Might be something she did every Saturday afternoon.:shrug:

[True2Blues]

Remember Cindy said they wanted life to get back to normal. Mayb she tended the yard in her normal life.

Some said that LE had told the Anthonys not to search. Don' know if it is true, but they would have to lock me up to keep me from searching for my Grandchild. Also if it were one of my children suspected they would still be in jail. And I would be much to busy searching to visit them. This is and always has been about Casey for the Anthonys. IT is not now or ever been about Caylee. JMHO

Exactly right.

[day2day]

Remember Cindy said they wanted life to get back to normal. Mayb she tended the yard in her normal life.

Some said that LE had told the Anthonys not to search. Don' know if it is true, but they would have to lock me up to keep me from searching for my Grandchild. Also if it were one of my children suspected they would still be in jail. And I would be much to busy searching to visit them. This is and always has been about Casey for the Anthonys. IT is not now or ever been about Caylee. JMHO

IIRC ..someone from TES said this was the FIRST search that the family of the missing was not involved. I can see them not hitting the swamps..but my Lord they could have been there passing out water-thanking the volunteers -SOMETHING. jom

[Boxer]

Maybe not. But we'll always see it there, anyway. :D Priceless.



I know I always do.:D

[day2day]

More charges could soon be filed against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, an Orange County Sheriff's spokesman told News 13.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

[CNTM]

I don't think who the father is is relevant at all, to anything. And as far as the paternal grandparents, they only have rights if the father is on the birth certificate. Cindy said he wasn't, right? Now if the father, and his parents, knew about the child and wanted rights and responsibilities toward Caylee, they could have petitioned the court for paternity testing.

I've been thinking maybe the identity of the Father is why they don't tell where Caylee is.:shrug:

[ccat]

There has been so many lies about who the father is, that it makes you think they all really know, and it is just part of their controlling behavior to not have competing grandparents in the picture, OR they know that Casey just slept with so many boys it would be impossible to know, so a ficticious one who conveniently died sounded better, or Cindy's other possibility was that she said it was a married man who moved away (find this hard to believe).

In that interview with Cindy I got the impression that he married after he was with Casey.

[MyrDawn]

I agree that Caylee's dad is a very relevant piece of this puzzle. I just don't hold out any hope that he'll be revealed.

What HAS been revealed, IMO, is more of the same arrogant, dismissive behavior on the part of the Anthonys, that not a one of them, by all appearances, felt the need for the baby's father to be a part of her life. Or to take responsibility. It's dysfunctional in the extreme, IMO.

Knowing Casey's inclinations, I wouldn't be surprised if she herself isn't sure who Caylee's father is.

JMO

[rj1212]

I agree that Caylee's dad is a very relevant piece of this puzzle. I just don't hold out any hope that he'll be revealed.

What HAS been revealed, IMO, is more of the same arrogant, dismissive behavior on the part of the Anthonys, that not a one of them, by all appearances, felt the need for the baby's father to be a part of her life. Or to take responsibility. It's dysfunctional in the extreme, IMO.

ITA :beer:

[Boxer]

IIRC ..someone from TES said this was the FIRST search that the family of the missing was not involved. I can see them not hitting the swamps..but my Lord they could have been there passing out water-thanking the volunteers -SOMETHING. jom

I'd have settled for an interested look and not turning away searchers on national television.....but hey, that's just me.

[day2day]

If Caylee is found dead then they would have to face the fact their daughter killed their grandbaby. Denial allows them to live in a fantasyland where Casey is still an innocent. IMO

I spose you are right. Fantasyland is a bad place to live...jmo

[st777jo]

I don't think who the father is is relevant at all, to anything. And as far as the paternal grandparents, they only have rights if the father is on the birth certificate. Cindy said he wasn't, right? Now if the father, and his parents, knew about the child and wanted rights and responsibilities toward Caylee, they could have petitioned the court for paternity testing.


Sorry, I disagree.

What if they had a medical emergency?

[SavannahStar]

I've been thinking maybe the identity of the Father is why they don't tell where Caylee is.:shrug:


I don't understand what you're saying? Can you elaborate? (BTW, I don't think Cindy/George know where Caylee is, Casey alone does....but that's irrelevant.)

[SavannahStar]

Sorry, I disagree.

What if they had a medical emergency?

Again I don't understand, please elaborate. If who had a medical emergency?

[desmom]

I've been thinking maybe the identity of the Father is why they don't tell where Caylee is.:shrug:

:confused:

[Amy]

Re: the bonding issue....If a mother can only bond with their child because they hold them in the delivery room, then I guess adoptive mother's never bond with their children. IOW, bull hockey......who holds the baby lst does not have one iota to do with Casey did not bond because she did not hold Caylee first.
And unless Cindy delivered the Caylee, she was not the lst one to hold her.

Things have changed dramatically over the years. Fathers are no longer banned to a waiting room. Mother's do not spend 7 days in the hospital for a normal delivery. Most hospitals do not move the mother from the labor ward to the delivery ward to recovery to a room anymore either.

As long as the Mother to be, the Dr. and the hospital do not have a problem with who is in the delivery, IMO, it is no one else's business.


jmo


IMO, even if the mom does not hold the baby first, that has nothing to do with "bonding." As you point out, the doctor holds the baby first. Where I work, sometimes the baby is placed on mom's tummy, and she gets to "hold" the baby first, most of the time, a nurse holds the baby first. I usually have the dad come take the baby to mom, as IMO, they deserve to be the first to hold the baby (other than doc and nurse.) You would be amazed @ the number of times the grandma or aunt or someone tries to take the baby before he can get it to mom!!! Seems a lot of grandmas/aunts think they have the right to hold the baby before mom! No matter who held the baby, when we go check on them later, mom and baby usually are having a good bonding time.

[SavannahStar]

Knowing Casey's inclinations, I wouldn't be surprised if she herself isn't sure who Caylee's father is.

JMO

That could very well be true.

[Boxer]

If Caylee is found dead then they would have to face the fact their daughter killed their grandbaby. Denial allows them to live in a fantasyland where Casey is still an innocent. IMO

O/T but not O/T...The mother of Bobby Franks, the boy killed by Leopold and Loeb, sat daily by her window waiting for Bobby to come home...until the day she died.

I could believe this of Cindy and George if not for the actions shown to the public including the whole date missing snaffu.

[desmom]

Sorry, I disagree.

What if they had a medical emergency?

You lost me. :confused:

[Amy]

I don't think Miss Casey or anyone knows who he is..

I tho't it had been confirmed (not just the Anthony's words) that the dad of the baby died in a car accident? Maybe on NG or GVS or somewhere. It was in posts quite some time ago.

[MyrDawn]

I've been thinking maybe the identity of the Father is why they don't tell where Caylee is.:shrug:


Do you think they'd rather have it this way, with Casey facing 50 years in prison, and probably a murder charge, to protect the identity of Caylee's father?

[SavannahStar]

You lost me. :confused:

Glad at least you're lost on the same two posts I am.

[st777jo]

Again I don't understand, please elaborate. If who had a medical emergency?

Caylee.

With Cindy being a nurse, she should understand the need to know the background of his family. Medical history.

[CNTM]

I don't understand what you're saying? Can you elaborate? (BTW, I don't think Cindy/George know where Caylee is, Casey alone does....but that's irrelevant.)


The Father might be someone well known in the community, a close family friend, someone they don't want the public to know about.

[Boxer]

I tho't it had been confirmed (not just the Anthony's words) that the dad of the baby died in a car accident? Maybe on NG or GVS or somewhere. It was in posts quite some time ago.
so far he's died twice...:shrug:

[Maelstrom5]

For anyone bored, anyone who cares about the fact that 100,000+ post about one missing child ignorer’s the 100,000 other missing people out there. For anyone who may be interested in a few other cases.



Hi,
Maelstrom5: Here are some links to the hiker/camping cases that I was talking about in WA and OR. Both cases have stuck with me because of how senseless they were. I think I know which case you are talking about in CA. Was it two young counselors who were shot dead on a beach or something like that? I understand how you feel with regards to what you were saying about the poetry, etc. Sometimes, I almost feel a connection to some missing people, because I desperatly want there to be some sort of answer or closure in the cases. Sometimes I'll think to myself: Where is he/she today? Do they know that there are people searching for them who care about them? Are they safe? Hurt? Or I'll wake up in the morning, and think to myself: Is this the day that his/her parent's find the answers that they are looking for?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161577,00.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003126096_hikersslain14m.html

Hi,

Yes, you got the correct case. I think we may be writing back and forth, everyone else is posting about Caylee Anthony. Not that anything new has been discovered but.. hay it’s a hot case. Thousands more will be ignored until that case winds it way through the court system. Maybe I will post this on that thread also, who knows maybe a few will wander down and take a look at all the other cases out there.

Alyssa; the girl I wrote about is Mel’s middle daughter.

I don’t think she would mind if I post this. She loves the song written about her mother.

Melanie’s Whispers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFnH9rTeCJc

[CNTM]

:confused:

Maybe they don't want anyone to know who the Father is for whatever reasons.

[Boxer]

The Father might be someone well known in the community, a close family friend, someone they don't want the public to know about.

lol:D I'm in denial of that and going with Who's Incarcerated for 300 Alex.

[day2day]

so far he's died twice...:shrug:

That doesn't surprise me at all. :D

[SavannahStar]

Caylee.

With Cindy being a nurse, she should understand the need to know the background of his family. Medical history.


It's helpful. But think of the many adopted children who have no idea who their birth parents are. They don't know their background/medical history of the family.

Another thing I think people are forgetting.....sometimes it happens when a young single woman finds herself pregnant, the "father" runs the other way. "Nice knowin' ya.......see ya!" That type of thing. If that were the case, the guy (and perhaps his family, IF they knew of the pregnancy) obviously wanted nothing to do with the child. And apparently the Anthonys were financially able to take care of Caylee. So therefore no real need of child support, and why force paternity on someone who doesn't want it and would probably not be a good father.

[Joan Weiss]

Did we lose the Caylee thread?:shrug:Right. This is Caylee's board. There is a board for missing children. This isn't it. imo

[SavannahStar]

I dont think who the father is has anything to do with Caylee missing nor would it help locate her in my opinion.


Oh ITA. Totall irrelevant.

[SavannahStar]

I think it is safe to say that Cindy, George and Lee know what happened to Caylee. The Orange County Police have said that as I best can remember.

The question now is what can we do as a community to make sure that she goes back to jail and stays there without bond.

Everyone think of every word said. Maybe as a collective group we can file a class action lawsuit on the basis she admitted she lied when at Universal interview.

I am stating this because a lot of people here seem to have no real opinion other than to slam the Anthony's.

I agree, they need to be slammed but what can we, as a group do to get her back behind bars.

CIVIL SUIT, class action.

No, it's not "safe to say".......your first two sentences I totally disagree with.

Good luck on the law suit.

[crymeariver2006]

lol:D I'm in denial of that and going with Who's Incarcerated for 300 Alex.


:lol:

and ....... cause msg too short!

[Joan Weiss]

Well if the father has nothing to do with this then why do they not identify him?

Their "He died in a car accident" does not answer any of the questions.Why do you need to know? LE has, I'm sure, already checked it out. imo

[rj1212]

Being a Dad, I think it's very relevant. Perhaps it's a bit personal for me regarding this.

If the situation was different, and a Dad was a suspect in a case where the child was missing w/ the same circumstances as this case, EVERYONE would want to know who the Mother is...and if the Dad simply said that the child's mother died, I'm sure his statement would be very suspect to say the least. I know...it's not an exact comparison because there is an actual record of Mother's at the hospitals and birth certificates and such...

I just feel soooo sad for Caylee...because she should have had a Dad fighting FOR CAYLEE...and Caylee deserved that...:mad:

I know that there are lots of absentee fathers in the world, and it's a sad reality for whatever reasons, but Caylee needed someone who wouldn't lie to protect Casey in this situation. The Anthony's have done alot of lying for Casey since the 3rd 911 call...
JMO

[SavannahStar]

Well if the father has nothing to do with this then why do they not identify him?

Their "He died in a car accident" does not answer any of the questions.


Good grief, why SHOULD they? Because you want to know who it is? Why? LOL!

[Boxer]

Being a Dad, I think it's very relevant. Perhaps it's a bit personal for me regarding this.

If the situation was different, and a Dad was a suspect in a case where the child was missing w/ the same circumstances as this case, EVERYONE would want to know who the Mother is...and if the Dad simply said that the child's mother died, I'm sure his statement would be very suspect to say the least. I know...it's not an exact comparison because there is an actual record of Mother's at the hospitals and birth certificates and such...

I just feel soooo sad for Caylee...because she should have had a Dad fighting FOR CAYLEE...and Caylee deserved that...:mad:

I know that there are lots of absentee fathers in the world, and it's a sad reality for whatever reasons, but Caylee needed someone who wouldn't lie to protect Casey in this situation. The Anthony's have done alot of lying for Casey since the 3rd 911 call...
JMO


I agree.

[kitty1182]

The last thing a drug dealer wants is a 3 year old. Too expensive to take care of. They might have stolen Casey's car, laptop, or forgery skills, but not Caylee.

I agree..The mob doesn't want kids either..IMO, no one has this child, she was killed by Casey Anthony..MOO

[day2day]

Being a Dad, I think it's very relevant. Perhaps it's a bit personal for me regarding this.

If the situation was different, and a Dad was a suspect in a case where the child was missing w/ the same circumstances as this case, EVERYONE would want to know who the Mother is...and if the Dad simply said that the child's mother died, I'm sure his statement would be very suspect to say the least. I know...it's not an exact comparison because there is an actual record of Mother's at the hospitals and birth certificates and such...

I just feel soooo sad for Caylee...because she should have had a Dad fighting FOR CAYLEE...and Caylee deserved that...:mad:

I know that there are lots of absentee fathers in the world, and it's a sad reality for whatever reasons, but Caylee needed someone who wouldn't lie to protect Casey in this situation. The Anthony's have done alot of lying for Casey since the 3rd 911 call...
JMO


Great post rj. I agree completely. Caylee deserves alot more than the Anthony's have offered. I do believe the Anthony's have been covering up Casey's lies for years. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

No, it's not "safe to say".......your first two sentences I totally disagree with.

Good luck on the law suit.SS, ITA with you on that. :cool:

[bluwaters]

I've been reading this forum for a few years, but I've never had my DH so interested in a case. We listened to the tapes yesterday and this morning. I think he has some of the same views as others on this forum and he stands by the possibility that Caylee is with drug dealers or something. He said Casey was too calm, that she could not have kept up that senerio if she was guilty.
I disagree. What do you guys think?
Whose body was decomposing in Casey's car?

[Pebbles]

There has been so many lies about who the father is, that it makes you think they all really know, and it is just part of their controlling behavior to not have competing grandparents in the picture, OR they know that Casey just slept with so many boys it would be impossible to know, so a ficticious one who conveniently died sounded better, or Cindy's other possibility was that she said it was a married man who moved away (find this hard to believe).


I agree. I often wonder if there are grandparents out there that do not know they had a lovely, adorable granddaughter and they never had the chance to get to know her. If Caylee's dad really died in an accident, didn't these grandparents have a right to know about Caylee.


I also wonder if everything that is said about Caylee's dad is just a story made up by the Anthonys because they wanted Caylee all to themselves. I think Cindy looked at Caylee as her own child because she no longer had a mother/daughter relationship with Casey, Caylee was helping Cindy feel needed as a mother again. Of course now that Caylee is gone, Cindy wants to get her daughter back into her life and will do anything including lying to achieve that.

[bluwaters]

so far he's died twice...:shrug:
maybe even 3...

[AlohaRainbow]

Cindy told Greta he was married during the house interview.
He had another family and then he sadly, but conveniently, passed away.
It is one of the stories Cindy has told about Caylee's dad.
great phrase... sadly but conveniently...
lots of those in this case...
sadly but conveniently:
nobody would put an adult on the phone when caylee called casey on july 15th
zanny's phone was abruptly disconnected when casey tried to call back
casey lost her phone and all of her numbers
her car ran out of gas or was otherwise inoperable and she had to abandon it in a parking lot
amy walked in her sleep and hid, mislaid and/or lost her own money
casey had to investigate caylee's disappearance on her own without the help fo family, friends or police for 30 (or 31) days
zanny had the help of sam when she kidnapped caylee, so that even though she "fought with the kidnappers", there was an extra pair of kidnapping hands available to cover casey's mouth so she couldn't even scream or yell for help
george must have somehow lost sight of the kidnappers, whose identity was known to him and who he was "watching"
zanny was known to frequent the fusion so that casey was forced to spend her evenings/nights there hunting for zanny
aparently there just happened to be a decomposing human body in casey's trunk, but it just so happens it was someone other than caylee



too bad, so sad (but my, how convenient!)

[kitty1182]

Because maybe she doesnt know who the father is ..or maybe he is dead..or married..or in prison..or who knows. The father and who he is didnt cause her to do what she did IMO.

I don't thinks she has any idea who the dad is..Seems like she slept around a lot..IMO..MOO

[SavannahStar]

I really don't understand how someone can make a statement that a child's father isn't relevant at all.

I thought it was generally known that children deserve TWO parents.

I hope you read my previous post about fathers who don't WANT to be fathers and do everything in their power to avoid responsibility!

Sure every child deserves two parents. But it is not always possible.

And when I said it was "irrelevent" I meant at THIS point who Caylee's father is is totally irrelevant to what happened to her and where she is now. In other words, it will do nothing whatsoever to solve the case.

People who want to know who Caylee's father is don't really have a right to know......it's morbid curiosity, IMO.

[Boxer]

I don't thinks she has any idea who the dad is..Seems like she slept around a lot..IMO..MOO

around, over, up, down and sideways....

[desmom]

Well if the father has nothing to do with this then why do they not identify him?

Their "He died in a car accident" does not answer any of the questions.


Why should they id the father? TIA

[MyrDawn]

I really don't understand how someone can make a statement that a child's father isn't relevant at all.

I thought it was generally known that children deserve TWO parents.

Of course children deserve 2 parents. But, the identity of Caylee's father isn't relevant to this situation. He's never been part of her life, and isn't a suspect in her disappearance.

[5boxersmom]

So if the father had another family that means Caylee has half siblings somewhere. So sad she never got to meet them.

ITA with everyone that said it is a shame she never got to meet her father. Maybe he could have protected her and not been so blind to Casey. Just so sad with all the what if's.


jmo

Caylee:rose:

[rj1212]

Great post rj. I agree completely. Caylee deserves alot more than the Anthony's have offered. I do believe the Anthony's have been covering up Casey's lies for years. jmo

Yeah...it seems so...

WE saw the lies after the 3rd 911 calls, but it's painfully obvious that Casey has been spoiled and lied for.

The Anthony's have been playing the "defense lawyer" role and have done an awful job of it. If they put half of the energy in getting Casey to tell the d*** truth as they have at playing "cover up for Casey" then we'd know where Caylee's body is by now.

[Boxer]

I hope you read my previous post about fathers who don't WANT to be fathers and do everything in their power to avoid responsibility!

Sure every child deserves two parents. But it is not always possible.

And when I said it was "irrelevent" I meant at THIS point who Caylee's father is is totally irrelevant to what happened to her and where she is now. In other words, it will do nothing whatsoever to solve the case.

People who want to know who Caylee's father is don't really have a right to know......it's morbid curiosity, IMO.


I don't have a morbid curiosity at all. I just wonder sometimes if there isn't some guy out there who at the time thought it best, or maybe wasn't even told. It could be possible that there is a Caylee's dad who walked away rather than deal with Cindy and Casey at the time, who would have taken her and raised and loved her rather than let Casey kill her.

[day2day]

My sister had her baby in a birthing center. She invited ALL of us to attend. My Dad said he and my Mother had 6 kids and he was not going to be in there. He did not like the idea at all.

Your Dad is a smart man. I was gonna call my Dad and ask him if he would go in the delivery room with me..then i thought -better not!! He will think I'm preggers and I will spend weeks trying to prove to him i'm not. hammer

[dreamtime]

Caylee.

With Cindy being a nurse, she should understand the need to know the background of his family. Medical history.

_______________--
Casey told no one who the father of Caylee is. Well, she did tell lies, about JG, who had a DNA test when Caylee was about a year old and the lie about the real dad being in a car accident. And the lie about the real dad died in a car crash on the way to Caylee's birthday party. The man who died in a crash died in May. Caylee's birthday is in August.
Cindy said she did not remember the name of the man who died, when she said Casey had shown her the obituary. You would think a grandmother would like to know the name of her only grandchild's father. Odd.

[MyrDawn]

around, over, up, down and sideways....

:lol:
Thanks for the laugh!

[kitty1182]

I don't have a morbid curiosity at all. I just wonder sometimes if there isn't some guy out there who at the time thought it best, or maybe wasn't even told. It could be possible that there is a Caylee's dad who walked away rather than deal with Cindy and Casey at the time, who would have taken her and raised and loved her rather than let Casey kill her.

AMEN!!!!!! :beer: :beer:

[True2Blues]

I really don't understand how someone can make a statement that a child's father isn't relevant at all.

I thought it was generally known that children deserve TWO parents.

Of course they do. IF and I think it's a big IF with Casey, she actually new who it was, he did have every right to know that the child was his.

I believe that even if she knew, Cindy would not tell him, because she's incredibly selfish and self centered, like her daughter, and was afraid a Father would want to get Caylee as far away from that sick, violent family as he could.

[day2day]

Since Casey was with at least 3 men in June/July, what if she was now pregnant? If she is eventually convicted of murder would her child be taken away from her?

If she is convicted of murder. She will be in prison. She will probly be in prison on the charges they have on her now. I read a little while ago they may have even more charges for the princess. She sure knows how to stack em up. jmo

[kitty1182]

Since Casey was with at least 3 men in June/July, what if she was now pregnant? If she is eventually convicted of murder would her child be taken away from her?

Let's pray she is not with child now..:(

[Amy]

I think it is safe to say that Cindy, George and Lee know what happened to Caylee. The Orange County Police have said that as I best can remember.

The question now is what can we do as a community to make sure that she goes back to jail and stays there without bond.

Everyone think of every word said. Maybe as a collective group we can file a class action lawsuit on the basis she admitted she lied when at Universal interview.

I am stating this because a lot of people here seem to have no real opinion other than to slam the Anthony's.

I agree, they need to be slammed but what can we, as a group do to get her back behind bars.

CIVIL SUIT, class action.


I dont' think John/Jane Q. Public get to go around filing class action civil suits just because someone is not in jail that they think should be. We can sue someone for admitting to a lie?

I think we have to let the LE and DA do their jobs, and I'm believing they have more evidence than what they are putting out (and, we don't really have the right to know all they have) and will work this case toward a successful conviction. They might not be all too happy about Casey being out on bond, but they seem to be able to work with her being out. She doesn't have to be sitting in jail for them to be able to do their work.

Besides, being couped up in her house or @ the law office can't be a walk in the park for someone who likes to party and go places. Especially if she and her parents aren't seeing eye-to-eye on things--she might even would rather be in jail!!!

[nutterbutter]

Well, there is probably baby stuff that will no longer be needed. Maybe they are packing to move? Once this is all over, one way or the other, they just may want to live somewhere else.

I think the neighbors want them to live somewhere else.moo

[5boxersmom]

What if her real dad was a drunk, abusive, a druggy...what if he simply didnt want to take responsibility. Lets not paint him a saint just yet.


No where is that said in my post. I said maybe.

When foster child Marcus Fiesel was killed her in my area by foster parents, there was a lawsuit and the money went to his 2 sibiliings. I was wondering if Caylee does have some half sibilings out there.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[MyrDawn]

I don't have a morbid curiosity at all. I just wonder sometimes if there isn't some guy out there who at the time thought it best, or maybe wasn't even told. It could be possible that there is a Caylee's dad who walked away rather than deal with Cindy and Casey at the time, who would have taken her and raised and loved her rather than let Casey kill her.

Considering how much media coverage this case has had, I'm pretty sure any guy that slept with Casey around the time Caylee was conceived is aware of what happened and would suspect he might be her father. He could easily contact the LE and ask for a DNA test, IF he wanted to be identified.
JMO

[day2day]

Yeah...it seems so...

WE saw the lies after the 3rd 911 calls, but it's painfully obvious that Casey has been spoiled and lied for.

The Anthony's have been playing the "defense lawyer" role and have done an awful job of it. If they put half of the energy in getting Casey to tell the d*** truth as they have at playing "cover up for Casey" then we'd know where Caylee's body is by now.

IMO i think the "story" started before the 911 calls. But they slipped up. They forgot (thank GOD) about the pic at the NH. That has really messed up their story. I am pretty sure before this is all said and done, Casey won't be the only one charged. JMO

And yes..IMO there is a reason they haven't and won't search. They KNOW the truth. So why waste their time and monies..when they can sit at home and attack protestors.:shrug:

[rj1212]

You sound like a wonderful, loving father. I too wish Caylee could have experience a father's love in her short life on earth.

Well, thank you. :) We all certainly have faults...

Somebody else needed to see that there was a VERY unhealthy relationship between Casey and Cindy regarding Caylee. I'm sure George saw it and either he was drinking the kool-aid or he didn't care...

I want to think that George cared, but maybe he didn't see it for what it was.

Again, Caylee needed a DAD who could discern that things were going downhill...

[desmom]

This case has been in national news for the last 2 months. If Caylee's father has any interest in her, don't you think he would have contacted LE by now? jmo

[True2Blues]

What if her real dad was a drunk, abusive, a druggy...what if he simply didnt want to take responsibility. Lets not paint him a saint just yet.


What if he wasn't? If he'd been all of those things, he probably would have signed his rights over, but at least he would have had the choice.

Could she have been any worse off than dead, body unrecovered?

[Amy]

Why do you need to know? LE has, I'm sure, already checked it out. imo

I would think that checking on the dad (if Casey gave them correct information) would be an important part of the investigation. To see whether or not Casey might have turned Caylee over to him, or if he "abducted" Caylee.

I would hope, tho, that if Casey turned Caylee over to him, he would have come forward by now. If he "abducted" Caylee, he, of course would be lying low, but it would seem that Casey would be showing LE HIS trail instead of talking about Zanny. IMO

[kitty1182]

This case has been in national news for the last 2 months. If Caylee's father has any interest in her, don't you think he would have contacted LE by now? jmo

I think he would have..

[Boxer]

Considering how much media coverage this case has had, I'm pretty sure any guy that slept with Casey around the time Caylee was conceived is aware of what happened and would suspect he might be her father. He could easily contact the LE and ask for a DNA test, IF he wanted to be identified.
JMO


that's true. it could also be true that the person may not have heard. it could also be true that he never knew Casey's name other than "hey you, wanna get a six pack and go to the park?"

[kitty1182]

that's true. it could also be true that the person may not have heard. it could also be true that he never knew Casey's name other than "hey you, wanna get a six pack and go to the park?"

Yep!! :beer: :beer:

o/t, where did $makesyoucute (sp) go? LOL

[CNTM]

that's true. it could also be true that the person may not have heard. it could also be true that he never knew Casey's name other than "hey you, wanna get a six pack and go to the park?"

*snicker, snicker* :lol:

[Boxer]

I think he would have..

I know....it's just sad that the only adults in her life could choose to defend her killer..makes me wanna cry.

[luvinlife]

It's helpful. But think of the many adopted children who have no idea who their birth parents are. They don't know their background/medical history of the family.

Another thing I think people are forgetting.....sometimes it happens when a young single woman finds herself pregnant, the "father" runs the other way. "Nice knowin' ya.......see ya!" That type of thing. If that were the case, the guy (and perhaps his family, IF they knew of the pregnancy) obviously wanted nothing to do with the child. And apparently the Anthonys were financially able to take care of Caylee. So therefore no real need of child support, and why force paternity on someone who doesn't want it and would probably not be a good father.


ITA I have experience with just that thing.

Neither the father or his family helped financially or in any other way in my case. The option was given to all that my son could be in their life and they all went on with theirs without bothering to know him, their loss.imo

[ccat]

_______________--
Casey told no one who the father of Caylee is. Well, she did tell lies, about JG, who had a DNA test when Caylee was about a year old and the lie about the real dad being in a car accident. And the lie about the real dad died in a car crash on the way to Caylee's birthday party. The man who died in a crash died in May. Caylee's birthday is in August.
Cindy said she did not remember the name of the man who died, when she said Casey had shown her the obituary. You would think a grandmother would like to know the name of her only grandchild's father. Odd.

And in Cindy's case, I can just see her demanding to know.

[5boxersmom]

that's true. it could also be true that the person may not have heard. it could also be true that he never knew Casey's name other than "hey you, wanna get a six pack and go to the park?"

So true. Might not even know her name.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[kitty1182]

I know....it's just sad that the only adults in her life could choose to defend her killer..makes me wanna cry.

Me too Sissy..:(

[farrahrani]

Since Casey was with at least 3 men in June/July, what if she was now pregnant? If she is eventually convicted of murder would her child be taken away from her?


I'm just reading this thread now, so pardon if this has been addressed.
Remember, Diane Downs, who was convicted of killing her child and attempting to kill the other two, lost custody of her unborn child in the hospital, the baby was put up for adoption.

Convicted or not, because of the neglect charges, I do not see Casey keeping any new babies if she is currently pregnant, nor do I see the co-conspirator grandparents, or any relatives getting custody either. JMO

[SavannahStar]

What if her real dad was a drunk, abusive, a druggy...what if he simply didnt want to take responsibility. Lets not paint him a saint just yet.


Bingo on that!!!! That possibility was what I was getting at.

[bchand]

Nor do I have a 'morbid curiosity' about the situation with Caylee's father. For heaven's sake, where did THAT come from. Thank GOD for the ignore feature. :rolleyes:

Nor do I and I am enjoying the conversation about it.

[nutterbutter]

Again I don't understand, please elaborate. If who had a medical emergency?

:confused:?

[mosey2]

I still do not get it,

Why are you all not considering doing something about this?

I live in the Caribbean so it is not so easy to do it from here but one of you must have a friend or family member that is a Atty you can ask about this.
I totally understand where your frustration and anger are coming from, but have patience. I have a feeling Orange Couny employs very intelligent detectives in its force. The powers that will make sure Casey goes down for her crimes are working on it day and night, night and day. When all the ducks are in a row, all the i's dotted and t's crossed, they will swoop down for the big one. MURDER ARREST. Anything we do now, that involves taking the law into our own hands, can only jeopardize and hamper the ongoing investigation.
But POST AWAY!! It's our right!:patriot:

[kitty1182]

I'm just reading this thread now, so pardon if this has been addressed.
Remember, Diane Downs, who was convicted of killing her child and attempting to kill the other two, lost custody of her unborn child in the hospital, the baby was put up for adoption.

Convicted or not, because of the neglect charges, I do not see Casey keeping any new babies if she is currently pregnant, nor do I see the co-conspirator grandparents, or any relatives getting custody either. JMO

I agree..That was a heartbreaking story..It just proves you never know who can kill their kids...:(

[kitty1182]

It's more common than most people realize, just as also often happens that the pregnant woman decides that she doesn't want the birth father involved, sometimes due to criminal habits of the father - most common are drugs, either selling, using or both.

Maybe people only think that happens in the movies - but it certainly doesn't!

IMO she has no idea who the daddy is..MOO

[mosey2]

Nor do I have a 'morbid curiosity' about the situation with Caylee's father. For heaven's sake, where did THAT come from. Thank GOD for the ignore feature. :rolleyes:
I'd be surprised if CASEY knows who the father is...

MOO:biggrin:

[SavannahStar]

ITA I have experience with just that thing.

Neither the father or his family helped financially or in any other way in my case. The option was given to all that my son could be in their life and they all went on with theirs without bothering to know him, their loss.imo


:rose: Bravo to you. Yes, THEIR loss.

[trich]

Of course they do. IF and I think it's a big IF with Casey, she actually new who it was, he did have every right to know that the child was his.

I believe that even if she knew, Cindy would not tell him, because she's incredibly selfish and self centered, like her daughter, and was afraid a Father would want to get Caylee as far away from that sick, violent family as he could.


Considering that until she was 7 months along before anyone admitted Casey was pregnant(so it has been told) I believe Caylee was the result of a one night stand. Just look at what her behavior had been while Caylee was missing for those 31 days.
And Casey herself probably has no inkling who the father is.

[mosey2]

IMO she has no idea who the daddy is..MOO
Brilliant minds...:)

[day2day]

great phrase... sadly but conveniently...
lots of those in this case...
sadly but conveniently:
nobody would put an adult on the phone when caylee called casey on july 15th
zanny's phone was abruptly disconnected when casey tried to call back
casey lost her phone and all of her numbers
her car ran out of gas or was otherwise inoperable and she had to abandon it in a parking lot
amy walked in her sleep and hid, mislaid and/or lost her own money
casey had to investigate caylee's disappearance on her own without the help fo family, friends or police for 30 (or 31) days
zanny had the help of sam when she kidnapped caylee, so that even though she "fought with the kidnappers", there was an extra pair of kidnapping hands available to cover casey's mouth so she couldn't even scream or yell for help
george must have somehow lost sight of the kidnappers, whose identity was known to him and who he was "watching"
zanny was known to frequent the fusion so that casey was forced to spend her evenings/nights there hunting for zanny
aparently there just happened to be a decomposing human body in casey's trunk, but it just so happens it was someone other than caylee



too bad, so sad (but my, how convenient!)

The list goes on and on ..doesn't it. Makes me sad. :(

[day2day]

that's true. it could also be true that the person may not have heard. it could also be true that he never knew Casey's name other than "hey you, wanna get a six pack and go to the park?"

lol no you dint....:read:

[MyrDawn]

BINGO!

Now it seems this thread may be going where it should.

Caylee is gone, It is time to start from the moment she got pregnant and start from there.

Shall we email Casey and have her send us a list of the men she slept with the first couple weeks of November 2004, and narrow it down from there?

[Amy]

I'm just reading this thread now, so pardon if this has been addressed.
Remember, Diane Downs, who was convicted of killing her child and attempting to kill the other two, lost custody of her unborn child in the hospital, the baby was put up for adoption.

Convicted or not, because of the neglect charges, I do not see Casey keeping any new babies if she is currently pregnant, nor do I see the co-conspirator grandparents, or any relatives getting custody either. JMO

Baby Grace's (Riley Sawyer) mom is pregnant (could have delivered by now?) and it was reported that the baby taken from her immediately. Don't know if relatives will have a choice to take the baby, or if the state has a right to sever parental rights and take custody.

[5boxersmom]

I have a question. When Casey said Zanny and Sam took Caylee at BP she also said her kids were with them. Whose kids did she mean. Zannys or Sams?

In the interview tapes she says Zanny doesn't have any kids.


jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Boxer]

Considering that until she was 7 months along before anyone admitted Casey was pregnant(so it has been told) I believe Caylee was the result of a one night stand. Just look at what her behavior had been while Caylee was missing for those 31 days.
And Casey herself probably has no inkling who the father is.


and terrified of her mother so says Casey herself.

which brings to mind another thought. My mother and I have a horrible relationship. Always have had a horrible relationship. She lives in denial, I live in Oklahoma. But...I would have told her if I were pregnant. Cindy must have a really nasty temper.:cool:

[SavannahStar]

Shall we email Casey and have her send us a list of the men she slept with the first couple weeks of November 2004, and narrow it down from there?

:lol: Yeh that'll do it. We can solve this case!!! Forget LE! :lol:

[Unperson1984]

No where is that said in my post. I said maybe.

When foster child Marcus Fiesel was killed her in my area by foster parents, there was a lawsuit and the money went to his 2 sibiliings. I was wondering if Caylee does have some half sibilings out there.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

They sued the agency that placed him in that foster home, in this case there are no deep pockets to recover damages.

[kitty1182]

I'd be surprised if CASEY knows who the father is...

MOO:biggrin:

I do hope she was using protection these last several months..
I hope the guys were using protection too...For their safety...

[5boxersmom]

Baby Grace's (Riley Sawyer) mom is pregnant (could have delivered by now?) and it was reported that the baby taken from her immediately. Don't know if relatives will have a choice to take the baby, or if the state has a right to sever parental rights and take custody.

I had just went and looked that up when you posted. GMTA.:)

She had the baby, a boy and relatives of hers that live in Dallas are the foster parents.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[mosey2]

Shall we email Casey and have her send us a list of the men she slept with the first couple weeks of November 2004, and narrow it down from there?
"George, can you run to office depot? Casey says she needs a ream of 20# white bond."

[5boxersmom]

They sued the agency that place him in that foster home, in this case there are no deep pockets to recover damages.

Oh there is if they are making money from the media.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[MyrDawn]

:lol: Yeh that'll do it. We can solve this case!!! Forget LE! :lol:

Just tryin' to be helpful. If we are going to start from the moment she got pregnant, we need to know who she was sleeping with.

Sometimes my evil side takes over and I just can't help myself. :chicken:

[kitty1182]

Shall we email Casey and have her send us a list of the men she slept with the first couple weeks of November 2004, and narrow it down from there?

She would just lie..
:D

[Boxer]

Baby Grace's (Riley Sawyer) mom is pregnant (could have delivered by now?) and it was reported that the baby taken from her immediately. Don't know if relatives will have a choice to take the baby, or if the state has a right to sever parental rights and take custody.

per Anne Rule's book, the father of Diane Down's child was given the opportunity to take the child. He declined.


Caylee's father could be anybody. I suspect it was a 3-5 hour stand.

[day2day]

:lol: Yeh that'll do it. We can solve this case!!! Forget LE! :lol:

It might be a very longggggg list...and i'm not sure even LE could sift through it all. JMO

[kitty1182]

My gut tells me that Casey Anthony is sitting in her bedroom watching what we write. Who knows, she may be posting.

Does anyone know how to get the IP address from these posts?

Well if she is, I will ask her once more to throw those white sun shades in the trash..She looks like MJ with them on...barf

[nc1948]

If Caylee is found dead then they would have to face the fact their daughter killed their grandbaby. Denial allows them to live in a fantasyland where Casey is still an innocent. IMO

I kinda disagree. Remember Cindy said that DNA lies. I really think that if remains are found and DNA testing says it is Caylee, that Cindy will deny it is her. I wonder if Cindy will ever be able t admit that Caylee is not with us but in PR, Texas, Ga or wherever. Possibly she will be another Scott Peterson Mother.

[MyrDawn]

"George, can you run to office depot? Casey says she needs a ream of 20# white bond."

:lol:
I hope the web cam is on. :D

[desmom]

lol, I'll bet she'd hop to that little task.

Casey can't state the truth from June 2008 forward - so now we're going to unnecessarily compound matters by going back to November 2004?

OY VEY!

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[day2day]

per Anne Rule's book, the father of Diane Down's child was given the opportunity to take the child. He declined.


Caylee's father could be anybody. I suspect it was a 3-5 hour stand.

I wonder if Ann Rule has said anything about this case?

[Joan Weiss]

I would think that checking on the dad (if Casey gave them correct information) would be an important part of the investigation. To see whether or not Casey might have turned Caylee over to him, or if he "abducted" Caylee.

I would hope, tho, that if Casey turned Caylee over to him, he would have come forward by now. If he "abducted" Caylee, he, of course would be lying low, but it would seem that Casey would be showing LE HIS trail instead of talking about Zanny. IMOI think LE is on top of this. :shrug:

[mosey2]

Walk with me a little deeper into the theater of the bizarre. As Casey's tummy grows bigger with each month of her pregnancy, and her navel (according to her Uncle Rick) becomes an 'outie,' the little Orlando faction of the Anthony clan gathers with other family members in Hawaii for a wedding or some such. And family members, natch, mention Casey's impending blessed event to Cindy and George ... WHO DENY IT for the love of God. It's the Twilight Zone I tell ya.
"She is either pregnant or she is going to die with a tumor the size of a baby" -Rick

[Joan Weiss]

I wonder if Ann Rule has said anything about this case?I doubt she's going to write about this case. She doesn't do notorious cases. imo

[True2Blues]

Considering that until she was 7 months along before anyone admitted Casey was pregnant(so it has been told) I believe Caylee was the result of a one night stand. Just look at what her behavior had been while Caylee was missing for those 31 days.
And Casey herself probably has no inkling who the father is.

Most probably not. At this point, that may be a Blessing for him.

[mosey2]

Is it my imagination or are the majority of you on the same page.

Who is Caylee's father?

Jesus Ortiz per Casey. "Sadly but convienently" dead

[Cury-us Coyote]

Psychologist: Casey Anthony Managed Questioning Stress 'Disturbingly Well'

'It is inconsistent," Day said. "That's a detachment. She is able to push her emotions aside during these interviews. I think she knows something. I don't know if she knows where her daughter is but she knows something."

http://www.local6.com/news/17468007/detail.html

[bchand]

I think LE is on top of this. :shrug:

I agree. They had been in touch with the parents of the Jessie who died and it's up to them if they want to find out if he was Caylee's father.

eta: was that jessie or jesus?

[kakax]

Psychologist: Casey Anthony Managed Questioning Stress 'Disturbingly Well'

http://www.local6.com/news/17468007/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A series of responses given by Casey Anthony during police interviews are not consistent with a desperate mother who wants to find her daughter, a psychologist told Local 6.

Click on link for more.