Caylee Anthony 9-13-08 A.M thread [Archive] - Page 3

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 02:45 PM

Animosity? - those are your words, not mine.

Casey hasn't even been charged yet with Caylee's murder, it's early in her game as of now, so not only will it be interesting to see IF she ever is charged with anything to do with Caylee's murder, it'll be interesting to see what skeletons crawl out of the closet from all of her friends, or maybe it'll just be some of them.

No one in the public knows if she acted alone, if she murdered Caylee, or where Caylee is at this time - nothing is written in stone.

Nope, nothing is written in stone.
And it will be VERY interesting what skeletons crawl out of the Cindys closet.
As YOU said, no one in the public knows if Casey acted alone. And many believe the people most likely to have helped her are inside that house.........

msjoni

09-13-2008, 02:45 PM

Oh lordy. Just thinking of that happening and Al Sharpton on NG makes my head pound. hammer

I can see it happening though as you stated.

Perhaps they can get Geraldo involved too. :)

warrkat

09-13-2008, 02:46 PM

Hi Warrkatt always great to see you here. I could have sworn I read it right here on this message board. I'll have to go search now. :D I swear she is up for parole? I'll go check and come back.

Don't bother.... I can look. Really, I was just responding to the resemblance that you noted in the two women. I hadn't thought of it. They're both strong-willed, to say the least.

hammer (that's Cindy pounding Betty).

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 02:46 PM

Isnt betty broderick going to be released soon? Can we get her to play Cindy Anthony on Lifetime perhaps? Whatcha all think?
:read:

I think the woman who played Delores Claiborne would be good :p

imo/jmo

has there been any word on the dumpster near the apt complex that LE was looking into?
I wonder if she threw away some of caylees belongings in that dumpster? maybe a bag full of stuff that was at tony's apt belonging to caylee? extra toys, clothes, diapers?

imo/jmo

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 02:46 PM

I believe she acted alone too, I'm just not sure about a cover up..
This was a traumatic act, I find it hard to believe that she didn't confide in someone.

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 02:47 PM

LOl nice spin.:rolleyes:

It's strikes me as odd that some people can see that there is a HUGE difference between the media and a message boards standards and accountability. Yet they can't differentiate the HUGE difference between a message board and the standards held within a court of law.:read:

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 02:47 PM

I am curious. What is it with your animosity towards the people who Casey used and called "friends"? Do you have some inside information or are you just trying to paint everyone with Casey's brush? I keep seeing you making statements about how "criminal" everyone remotely associated with Casey.. Why?

You know I have to agree with you, there has been a lot of finger pointing at people in this case that had the bad luck to be friends with casey. Most of them are people she knew for a very short time. More things have been said about Tone than he deserves, holy carp he didn't even know her for a solid 2 months. Why has there been a constant push by some towards college going, hard working friends, when casey herself can't even be put in that category.
That and the constant defense of LP that changes his story more often than casey changes men...

Pebbles

09-13-2008, 02:48 PM

That's a good observation and I'm sure at some level it's true. I think the reason so many are upset (including me) is all of the lies and "seeming" covering up for Casey. They could enjoy the time they have left with their daughter without the lies, confrontations in the front yard and spinning. MOO

I agree with you Kathib.

In regards to having time with Casey. There are many parents that have not had the opportunity the Anthonys have. They didn't have the chance to spend additional time with their children. Their children are no longer here due to war, accident or illness. These children did not cause the type of pain that Casey has caused for her family and I can guarantee that these parents would give anything in the world to be able to have had"some extra" time with their children that are no longer here.

:rose: For sweet, adorable little Caylee

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 02:49 PM

Animosity? - those are your words, not mine.

Casey hasn't even been charged yet with Caylee's murder, it's early in her game as of now, so not only will it be interesting to see IF she ever is charged with anything to do with Caylee's murder, it'll be interesting to see what skeletons crawl out of the closet from all of her friends, or maybe it'll just be some of them.

No one in the public knows if she acted alone, if she murdered Caylee, or where Caylee is at this time - nothing is written in stone.

And it will be interesting to see what skeletons crawl out of Casey's closet. You have to remember something if Casey is brought on trial she will be the one on trial not her friends.

Just the other day I thought you said you never stuck up for Casey.

lonetraveler

09-13-2008, 02:49 PM

personally I would go into the back yard and hire someone to do the front yard....but I don't like being on tv :)

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It appears that the Anthonys don't like being in their back yard anymore. Wonder why?

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 02:49 PM

Really, some it seems like spitting out their 2 cents worth, but don't like it when their given their 2 cents back. IMO

Maybe Cindy could go out in the back yard and clean Caylee's play house for when she comes back from the babysitter. JMO

Even tho there are no camera's or reporters back there.

IMO, she's just baiting the cameras and reporters. Hoping one of them will say something to her.

st777jo

09-13-2008, 02:50 PM

This was a traumatic act, I find it hard to believe that she didn't confide in someone.

She did confide in people, only most are imaginary. jmo

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 02:51 PM

Neighbors said the neighborhood has turned into a circus, and they want to move the protesters from the front of the Anthony home to the entrance of the community.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

Looks to me like that would bother the entire neighborhood having to drive in and out of there, rather than just the surrounding neighbors on Hopespring Drive.

:shrug:

I know this is a stupid question but I also know what a sue happy country we are, can the neighbors sue the Anthony's?

Takotna

09-13-2008, 02:51 PM

Hey, dots. I would think they retrieved the garbage bag, they checked everything out the next day. I doubt the dumpster was emptied that quickly. imo

IIRC LE retrieved the bag from the towyard the next day. It's in the 400ogs - white trash bag with blue ties. This brings up the point that Cindy never saw the bag or the maggots inside the bag because she wasn't with the towman and G when they went to the car. If Cindy saw maggots at all (which I doubt) they would have had to be in the car.

Does anyone remember....after Cindy first started saying it was pizza-smell, there was something about G getting a bag of trash AT THE HOUSE and giving it to LE - saying it came from the car? Was he trying to pass off other trash as coming from the car? (Maybe he wasn't counting on the towman remembering....) Y'all know how I think G has explaining to do - this is just one more thing...

AllMO:)

firefly75

09-13-2008, 02:51 PM

Neighbors said the neighborhood has turned into a circus, and they want to move the protesters from the front of the Anthony home to the entrance of the community.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/13/casey_anthony_could_face_new_economic_charges.html

Looks to me like that would bother the entire neighborhood having to drive in and out of there, rather than just the surrounding neighbors on Hopespring Drive.

:shrug:ITA! Also I would be so upset if my house was right next to the entrance. This is because of the Anthony's!

ellegna

09-13-2008, 02:53 PM

I am trying to think of anyone outside the Anthony family who has lied to LE that we know of. There is only one, Anthony Rusciano. So for anyone thinking a friend may know more about it than we know, check there. IMO

Out of curiosity....Whatever happened with Anthony Rusciano the Deputy who was fired lying about his relationship with Casey?
If their relationship had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance, why he didn't just come out and say they were dating? Why the secrecy? :shrug:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/26/ng.01.html

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An Orange County sheriff`s deputy was fired just hours ago after it was proven that he lied about reportedly having a sexual relationship with Caylee`s mother, CaseyAnthony.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They did a forensic search of Casey Anthony`s computer and typed in some key words. It led them to pages of chats between Rusciano and Anthony. They did talk about her daughter, Caylee, in those chats, but none of the chat was truly meaningful in terms of helping detectives find the missing three 3-year-old. We do understand that Rusciano and Anthony had a sexual relationship. Apparently, they were talking to each other around the end of May, which would be just weeks before Casey says she last saw her daughter.

OCSO Memo
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-memo-deputy-fired-casey-anthony-pdf,0,3953269.acrobat

firefly75

09-13-2008, 02:53 PM

It's strikes me as odd that some people can see that there is a HUGE difference between the media and a message boards standards and accountability. Yet they can't differentiate the HUGE difference between a message board and the standards held within a court of law.:read:

Hello Rebel:)
BTW...very good point!

Joan Weiss

09-13-2008, 02:54 PM

chrissybot

09-13-2008, 02:54 PM

O Lord:rolleyes:. Casey and ONLY Casey is 100% responsible for HER daughter, so TRYING to throw her friends under the bus IS ludicrous!! The fact alone that she did not bother to inform anyone or care that her daughter was missing for 31 days is enough for me.

Loves2Read

09-13-2008, 02:54 PM

I have hope Joan I do. Because her TimeOfDeath is so important in pinning down in this case. You know what, last night it was late but I couldnt help but notice again, that LE on all sites are still going with June 9th as Date she was last seen alive, and then looking at Caylee on that "fathers day video" and again, noticing that I swear she does not look old enough on that tape for it to be of this year. She looks like a 2 year old, more recent photos showed a different child all together, like her in her Crocs, etc. I dont beleive that video is of this year Fathers Day, at all.

I guess one day in court that will be explained but I believe this family tried to use it as a tool to aide in their alibi. I've always thought that.....Early on. :(

ITA I thought she looks younger in the video and even though the police "verified" it I feel that there are ways to put a current date on an older video. IF this is the case I think the first dates they used when they were first interviewed by the police where correct. IMO

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 02:55 PM

I know this is a stupid question but I also know what a sue happy country we are, can the neighbors sue the Anthony's?

good question, Im sure in this day and age, they can for something.

unable to sleep at night, being scared to let your kids outside.

I wouldnt be surprised if one of the neighbors does, or may a few of them together, before this is all over.

imo/jmo

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 02:55 PM

Geraldo may still be under the blow dryer trying to dry himself off after being tossed into the drink via Hurricane Ike as he foolishly sat on the break wall.
LOL that was almost as good as him getting his nose broken by a chair.

aubrey04

09-13-2008, 02:55 PM

I read the 400 page drop when it was first released but I don't remember reading anything about Jeff Hopkins and his parents being interviewed. (Jeff Hopkins is supposedly Casey's friend who used Zanny the Nanny, too.. according to Casey).. I read in the summary section of the 400-page doc that LE was unable to locate Jeff Hopkins because his phone was shut off, but they interviewed his parents.. and his parents claim that Jeff did NOT know Casey Anthony.

Last night, I scanned all the documents again... and again.. but I could not find where Jeff's parents were interviewed OR anything about them trying to locate Jeff. Does anyone recall reading that portion? The place I looked at documents had them all chopped up in 3 portions.. I am not sure if I just missed part of the documents or what?

So the question is:

Did LE talk to Jeff Hopkins? If not, why couldn't they locate him?.. and did they talk to his parents.. and if so, why couldn't they put LE in touch with Jeff?

TIA

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 02:55 PM

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 02:56 PM

I know this is a stupid question but I also know what a sue happy country we are, can the neighbors sue the Anthony's?

I believe if anyone gets sued at all it would be the HOA depending on what is set in the HOA neghborhood agreement form/contract. I could be wrong but that's my opinion having dealt with HOA before. Not with something of this nature or magnitude though. The HOA has certain standards they must follow as well as the home owners who belong to the association. IMO

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 02:56 PM

I know this is a stupid question but I also know what a sue happy country we are, can the neighbors sue the Anthony's?

I don't know. But they might get further with that than a lawsuit against the protesters.

And there are no stupid questions. I've wondered the same thing. I know when we had a condo with an HOA, you could be sued if your property became a public nuisance (loud parties, drugs, etc). I'm not sure what their HOA by-laws are. Ours were like 500 pages of "wherefores" and "heretos" but my DH is kind of @n@l retentive and he read the whole thing.

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 02:57 PM

ITA I thought she looks younger in the video and even though the police "verified" it I feel that there are ways to put a current date on an older video. IF this is the case I think the first dates they used when they were first interviewed by the police where correct. IMO

I have said that a bunch of times, it is possible to change the dates to make all the pics/vids on the camera at the current time to that date.
I can do it on mine.
I have 2 digicams and a digi vid recorder, I can do it on all 3.

casey had a nikon coolpics- the majority of them have a rechargable battery-every time you take the battery out to charge it, the date resets itself-so you have to manually set it again.

you can read that on the nikon website.

imo/jmo

cassidy

09-13-2008, 02:57 PM

Geraldo may still be under the blow dryer trying to dry himself off after being tossed into the drink via Hurricane Ike as he foolishly sat on the break wall.

LOL sorry I missed that.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 02:58 PM

I am trying to think of anyone outside the Anthony family who has lied to LE that we know of. There is only one, Anthony Rusciano. So for anyone thinking a friend may know more about it than we know, check there. IMO

ITA with you.

I find it amazing people try to paint Amy in a bad light, that girl was a friend, even after casey stole money from her she still DEFENDED casey, saying that she thought casey would never hurt her child on purpose.hammer

MyrDawn

09-13-2008, 02:58 PM

Hey Joan and good day btw and hi everyone. Do you all really believe, that Cindy did find Maggots in that car, and that when they retrieved the bag at the Tow Yard, they were able to save some of them for Forensics in this case? We all know that maggots feed off of dead flesh, they are natures way of taking care of a very nasty problem, smelly dead bodies. I have to have lots of hope that Entimologists have found out a lot from them, if they do in fact Have them in this case. They can pinpoint Caylees TOD if they have them....

:rose:

Dots........................

Well Dots, I don't know for sure they did get maggots, but I sure hope so! It's amazing how much info the forensic entomologists can get from them. Besides the time of death, they can be used to detect drugs and poisons.

JMO

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 02:58 PM

Thanks firefly and JW :seeya:

st777jo

09-13-2008, 02:59 PM

Geraldo may still be under the blow dryer trying to dry himself off after being tossed into the drink via Hurricane Ike as he foolishly sat on the break wall.

Maybe you can stick with topic, ok?

anon-o-miss

09-13-2008, 02:59 PM

Hey Joan and good day btw and hi everyone. Do you all really believe, that Cindy did find Maggots in that car, and that when they retrieved the bag at the Tow Yard, they were able to save some of them for Forensics in this case? We all know that maggots feed off of dead flesh, they are natures way of taking care of a very nasty problem, smelly dead bodies. I have to have lots of hope that Entimologists have found out a lot from them, if they do in fact Have them in this case. They can pinpoint Caylees TOD if they have them....

:rose:

Dots........................

:seeya:
I'm not sure if they did, but I hope they were able to. I found a link that has a list of the different stages of decomp and the various insects that are present in each stage.
:read:
http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00206/text_ta_time_since_death.htm

Pebbles

09-13-2008, 03:00 PM

The GPs know more than they are telling; therefore, impeding LE from FINDING Caylee... I truly wish that LE could make a case for Cindy and George to be brought up on obstruction of justice charges or lying under oath. I think if they were charged, they would crack and spill it. Eventually they are going to realize their low-life, loser, murdering daughter is nothing but dead weight... She will bring everyone in her family down with her. Her parents need to realize that.

I think LE is focusing their efforts on Casey..and finding Caylee, but the GPs might truly be the key to all of this. (I am not saying they are involved, just that they know more than they have admitted... Casey HAS to have told them more..they are all cooped up in the house together).
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Aubry this is my feeling also. I feel that once the Anthonys did find out what happened to Caylee they went into the defense mode and began lying and telling stories to protect Casey. Caylee was only used as a means to not admit that Casey was not helping in the search for her daughter. Whenever someone questioned the Anthonys regarding what Casey may have done, the Anthonys held up Caylee's picture and said, "this is what is important". I would get so angry when I heard that, because if finding Caylee was so important, why were the Anthonys protecting the one person that could bring their granddaughter home.

The Anthonys anger is directed at everyone but the person sitting in their home who is laughing at the world while little Caylee is still missing. Casey is only concerned about herself, in her mind Caylee never existed after June 9.

This is JMO.

Please pray for justice for Caylee. :rose:

warrkat

09-13-2008, 03:01 PM

http://www.prisonerlife.com/page_members.cfm?MemberID=999

Yes her release date is 2010; I new it was coming up. Two years..
she will be a free woman.

Scary lady, but I guess we're safe as long we don't get between her and her man, when she finds a new one.

farrahrani

09-13-2008, 03:01 PM

The GPs know more than they are telling; therefore, impeding LE from FINDING Caylee... I truly wish that LE could make a case for Cindy and George to be brought up on obstruction of justice charges or lying under oath. I think if they were charged, they would crack and spill it. Eventually they are going to realize their low-life, loser, murdering daughter is nothing but dead weight... She will bring everyone in her family down with her. Her parents need to realize that.

I think LE is focusing their efforts on Casey..and finding Caylee, but the GPs might truly be the key to all of this. (I am not saying they are involved, just that they know more than they have admitted... Casey HAS to have told them more..they are all cooped up in the house together).
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/ita!
Good afternoon everyone. I'm just getting to the board, and am starting from this post I am quoting so if it's been said, I aplogize.

I recall the statements that the kidnappers were being observed, and wish that those statements could be used in court for obstruction. Telling the police they have no idea where Caylee is, then saying to the media that the kidnappers are being observed by them, such a contradiction you rarely see these days. It's like the Anthonys expect the world to develop selective amnesia every time they make a new statement. :flamemad:

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:02 PM

Nope, nothing is written in stone.
And it will be VERY interesting what skeletons crawl out of the Cindys closet.
As YOU said, no one in the public knows if Casey acted alone. And many believe the people most likely to have helped her are inside that house.........

I am willing to bet that we will see a parade of skeletons crawl out of the Anthony's closet. Let's not forget about all the nasty statements casey made about her parents, that will open some doors to all kinds of goodies. I am sure casey's friends will look like angels compared to the anthony family.

concernedmom

09-13-2008, 03:03 PM

Casey may not be taking this home confinement too badly. She can tan by the pool, doesnt have to get up and pretend to go to work and no kid to take care of.

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 03:04 PM

And I still haven't stuck up for Casey, so your point would be ____?

Animosity? - those are your words, not mine.

Casey hasn't even been charged yet with Caylee's murder, it's early in her game as of now, so not only will it be interesting to see IF she ever is charged with anything to do with Caylee's murder, it'll be interesting to see what skeletons crawl out of the closet from all of her friends, or maybe it'll just be some of them.

No one in the public knows if she acted alone, if she murdered Caylee, or where Caylee is at this time - nothing is written in stone.

You're not sticking up for her Casey, by the way it looks like to me trying to by badmouthing her friends? You know the funny thing is it doesn't matter much what her friends have to say. The real evidence will be the evidence from the trunk and whatever other evidence they have.

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:04 PM

I am willing to bet that we will see a parade of skeletons crawl out of the Anthony's closet. Let's not forget about all the nasty statements casey made about her parents, that will open some doors to all kinds of goodies. I am sure casey's friends will look like angels compared to the anthony family.

Oh I agree, Cindy wants something hid, and I think it's big.

iluvmua

09-13-2008, 03:05 PM

I'm hoping that all of these stupid protesters don't push Casey over the edge so much that she decides to kill herself.

If that happens then Caylee will most likely never see justice.

Pebbles

09-13-2008, 03:05 PM

Casey may not be taking this home confinement too badly. She can tan by the pool, doesnt have to get up and pretend to go to work and no kid to take care of.

I think about that every day!

GrandmaGA

09-13-2008, 03:06 PM

Actually the Anthonys did bring ALL of this to their neighbourhood.

Cindy got in bed with the media, early on.

I have not seen the media "protesting". :no:

Armchairdet

09-13-2008, 03:06 PM

Actually the Anthonys did bring ALL of this to their neighbourhood.

Cindy got in bed with the media, early on.

Exactly. Casey mentions her cameo on the first jail tape. Cindy was saying 'which one'?

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:06 PM

Casey may not be taking this home confinement too badly. She can tan by the pool, doesnt have to get up and pretend to go to work and no kid to take care of.

You know I wonder what in fact goes through her mind, I wonder if she has any regret, remorse. Or is it all about Casey.

Takotna

09-13-2008, 03:06 PM

:)I read the 400 page drop when it was first released but I don't remember reading anything about Jeff Hopkins and his parents being interviewed. (Jeff Hopkins is supposedly Casey's friend who used Zanny the Nanny, too.. according to Casey).. I read in the summary section of the 400-page doc that LE was unable to locate Jeff Hopkins because his phone was shut off, but they interviewed his parents.. and his parents claim that Jeff did NOT know Casey Anthony.

Last night, I scanned all the documents again... and again.. but I could not find where Jeff's parents were interviewed OR anything about them trying to locate Jeff. Does anyone recall reading that portion? The place I looked at documents had them all chopped up in 3 portions.. I am not sure if I just missed part of the documents or what?

So the question is:

Did LE talk to Jeff Hopkins? If not, why couldn't they locate him?.. and did they talk to his parents.. and if so, why couldn't they put LE in touch with Jeff?

TIA

I pretty much wrote this off as another imaginary friend, like Juilette and ZG. Perhaps she once knew someone with this or a similar name but I doubt the Jeff Casey is talking about really exists - Of course, IMO Jeff's son Zack is imaginary too - I would think invisibility is an heriditary trait.

LE may have talked to him after the 400pgs?

AllMO:)

MyrDawn

09-13-2008, 03:08 PM

Hi Warrkatt always great to see you here. I could have sworn I read it right here on this message board. I'll have to go search now. :D I swear she is up for parole? I'll go check and come back.

Hi again, Dots.

If I'm not mistaken, Betty Broderick comes up for parole in 2011. Warkkat is right, the actress that played her, Meredith Baxter, would be great playing Cindy, IMO.

nutterbutter

09-13-2008, 03:08 PM

We know that Caylee was seen at the nursing home on 9/15. Is that the last believable sighting of Caylee that we have? I just keep don't understand why the Anthony's (includin Casey) alllllllll swore to the 7th or the 9th? :shrug:
trying to make sure they all told the same story?:shrug:

Loves2Read

09-13-2008, 03:08 PM

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 03:08 PM

Willow I forgot to add. If the Anthony's failed to uphold or abide by any part of the agreement they signed with the HOA. The HOA can file a claim with the city on behalf of all it's members. They will have to either comply with what they agreed to or be held accountable for failing to do so. Depending on what i in the agreement. The Anthony's did not invite the protesters but they may not have helped take control of the situation properly which might make them liable for any claims the HOA makes against them IF any at all. We don't know what is in the HOA agreement so it may mean the Anthony's are not in violation of anything. IMO
Hope that I conveyed that well enough that it makes sense to you and others. lol

dixie77

09-13-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
I think by the time this case ever goes to Trial, Amy may not be the only friend of Casey's who is found to have skeletons in their closet - not by a long shot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl
Probably because that's her home, her yard, and they shouldn't have to hide from the mob mentality of the foolish Media who are only out to sensationalize this case - of which the Media is apparently either unaware or just don't plain care that this case is about Caylee, and not about every burp the Anthony family makes. =========
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Who cares about any of Casey's friends skeletons? The only person i see being named a POI is Casey. U continueosly talk about Casey's friends as if u think they r involved in this. Then u talk about the media........i'm more than sure u hang onto every word that the media is reporting. U would be complaining if they werent reporting. Its something like.....damn if they do and damn if they dont. Geesh....give it a rest, wont u. JMO

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:09 PM

IIRC LE retrieved the bag from the towyard the next day. It's in the 400ogs - white trash bag with blue ties. This brings up the point that Cindy never saw the bag or the maggots inside the bag because she wasn't with the towman and G when they went to the car. If Cindy saw maggots at all (which I doubt) they would have had to be in the car.

Does anyone remember....after Cindy first started saying it was pizza-smell, there was something about G getting a bag of trash AT THE HOUSE and giving it to LE - saying it came from the car? Was he trying to pass off other trash as coming from the car? (Maybe he wasn't counting on the towman remembering....) Y'all know how I think G has explaining to do - this is just one more thing...

AllMO:)

You have to look at this (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340038)
Index & Persons of 400pg Official Documents w/Links

bchand

09-13-2008, 03:10 PM

Broderick

09-13-2008, 03:10 PM

By their very presence at the house, is a form of protest.

All here:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:10 PM

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:11 PM

:)

I pretty much wrote this off as another imaginary friend, like Juilette and ZG. Perhaps she once knew someone with this or a similar name but I doubt the Jeff Casey is talking about really exists - Of course, IMO Jeff's son Zack is imaginary too - I would think invisibility is an heriditary trait.

LE may have talked to him after the 400pgs?

AllMO:)

Well, we do know that Jeff Hopkins is a real person.
It would be ridiculous to believe that LE hasnt interviewed Jeff. Just because his interview wasnt yet released doesnt mean he wasnt questioned.
What it most likely means is the interview is being held with the evidence related to Casey and a murder charge.

Texas48

09-13-2008, 03:13 PM

I made several attempts to listen to the tapes released yesterday and gave up out of frustration.

Her lies flowed as smoothly as water out of a faucet which leads me to believe, she practiced this story. Last week on NG (I think), a guest said Casey told him about a script she was supposed to follow. I do believe there is a script...a script Casey wrote and probably re-wrote several times until she thought it was believable. I wonder if LE found the script on her computer.

jmo

ETA ~ I hope all in the path of Ike are safe. After following this case from the start..watching and listening to all involved..none of them need a script to follow. The lies seem to flow very easy and now after hearing last nights tapes from LE..Casey seems to be the very best at the lies. She does it with such ease..All knows they are lies and yet she just keeps going. Maybe it was built into her from her parents..who knows? This is JMO.

Pruddennce

09-13-2008, 03:15 PM

when she is being asked about medications growing up for herself or if Caylee needed medication:

she says Caylee is extremely healthy.....she has had one cold in the last TWO days in her entire life...

???

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7419603&version=1&locale=EN-US

and then starts giggling in agreemet when he said the chairs were uncomfortable.....

best regards,
Pru

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 03:15 PM

Thank you Rebel, I swear I'm not a stalker, I just love your posts.

lol i know you're not. and thanks. :seeya:I enjoy your posts as well.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 03:16 PM

No that is not what I said.
C_E, don't worry we all know what you said:)

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:16 PM

The Judge, the Jury, Defense & Prosecution may if this ever goes to Trial.

And that's just for starters.

Why is it ok for you to insinuate Casey's former friends have something to do with Caylee's disappearance, but the GPs are off limits?

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 03:17 PM

Actually the Anthonys did bring ALL of this to their neighbourhood.

Cindy got in bed with the media, early on.

Because it was a missing child case.

No, no one in that neighborhood will be able to sue that family and win. It will never happen. Impossible. Sue for WHAT? The bottom line is the law will see that the Anthonys did NOT "bring" anything to their neighborhood. The media came there. The protestors came there. The justice system would say it's not the fault of the Anthonys.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:18 PM

Actually the Anthonys did bring ALL of this to their neighbourhood.

Cindy got in bed with the media, early on.

Yes they are bringing problems into the neighborhood and they can be sued or even be forced from the neighborhood, depending on the HOA rules. That said, I don't think anyone would win a lawsuit against them.

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:19 PM

Yes! That's right I have several different cameras and this is a fun little camera that I used for a few years. I love NIkon and all my 35mm are Nikon. And yes, you have to reset the date; and you can also opt to not have the info imprint on the photo or video that is downloaded. So it's easy to manipulate, if you would ever need to do something like that. Never thought of it actually but I think this family did; to verify their New date of the 15th, not the 9th. Big Mistake imo.

Dots...................

I think they did as well.
extremely easy to do, when I take pics off, sometimes I forget to hit the delete pics on camera button. so next time I d/l-I have doubles.
and they all have different dates.

imo/jmo

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:19 PM

Not necessarily true, don't forget, Casey signed a sworn statement as well as did her friends, claiming that everything she said there was absolute truth. ;)

And luckily for LE, so did the Grandparents.........;)

Broderick

09-13-2008, 03:20 PM

Wouldn"t it be more fair to just move THE ANTHONY's? They have found life on Mars.

I may sound cold, but if I were a neighbor and a part of the home owner association I would be pushing to have them ticketed for violating the peace, hoping to bring it to a point where they are forced out. Since the HOA cannot ticket protesters or police the situation on public property, they can enforce existing laws regarding member's violations only. You pay for most HOA I do believe. They determined they had to have Casey home so she could visit her lawyer all day and this keeps the neighborhood clogged. The circus followed her release from jail. If her lawyer is so intent on having her out, working with promotion companies and alike, while paying for body guards, he could perhaps place her in a safe place away from restless neighbors.

When I watched the video of Lee getting his rear kicked by a sign, it appeared that the HOA is putting pressure on them.

Did you see the flood lights on last night - focused on the house? That is a neighborhood nightmare right there.

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:23 PM

I do too L2R~ I really think that when they all penned on their statements the 9th, they meant the 9th and that was the start of sticking to a script. A pact, alibi whatever one wants to call it.

Easy to change the date on your dvd/cameras. I'd like to see what her hard drive held. It's got to be a plethora of information
Cant wait until that is released in court. Emails, searches, etc.

I wonder who did the search online for the Cholor, do you think it was Cindy? I do. I dont think Casey is that smart. She may have us fooled, jailers said she was a "voracious reader" but I wonder if she was just posing, as usual. She's a poser, to me.

I believe the 9th was the date as well, that is basically the only thing anyone of them agreed on.
they said they checked the sim card on the camera, but again, it is easy to change the dates so the sim card really didnt 'help' trying to confirm.
I think when casey stole the gas cans- she saw the chloro. in the shed and looked it up online to see about it.
I still think geo/cindy had some in the shed for all the crazy bugs down here.
cindy said she was a yard person, to surely get rid of fire ants, especially with a baby/toddler running about, you can buy/mix chloro.

I have lots of thoughts right now, and each one sounds just as good as the next. lol
imo/jmo

dixielover

09-13-2008, 03:23 PM

You know what the answer is, yes. And so can the BANK and that is where it could get really dicey for Casey A. Cant prove murder charges? Let the ball start rolling on these other 10 charges, which add up to 50 Years. By the time LE is ready she will already be serving 5 years hard time. She will have all the attention she craves, in jail. Lots of women there for her to choose from. It's sad, but she will probably fit right in like Melanie McGuire. Well thats my 2c this morning anyway!!

Dots..............................

I know these are proably dumb questions-

If she goes to jail for theft and fraud, will she be in protective custody or thrown in with the general population- I know she has really been protected in jail

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 03:24 PM

Not necessarily true, don't forget, Casey signed a sworn statement as well as did her friends, claiming that everything she said there was absolute truth. ;)

How would they know what Casey said? Why would they have to swear to what Casey said? Wouldn't they swear to their own statement they gave is the truth?

dixie77

09-13-2008, 03:24 PM

The Judge, the Jury, Defense & Prosecution may if this ever goes to Trial.

And that's just for starters.=====
=========================================

The prosecution will call her (former) friends to testify AGAINST her. JMO

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:25 PM

Insinuate? Have you not noticed the "may have" in there?

LOL nice spin.
You have insinuated repeatedly about many different friends.

anyonesguess

09-13-2008, 03:25 PM

Not necessarily true, don't forget, Casey signed a sworn statement as well as did her friends, claiming that everything she said there was absolute truth. ;)

Amy's checks that were cashed, and video's of Casey emptying her account and using the checks in store's show she is the VICTIM. I don't care if Amy has robbed banks in the past, committed previous murders, stole cars, or cashed checks that were not hers. She was vicitimized by Casey and CASEY is the one charged with the current economic crimes, and it WILL be proven in court. Victims should NOT be victimized more. It sets a bad precedence for future victims to report things to LE if they are going to be victimized by the court of law as well imo. MANTRA= AMY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH NOTHING = AMY IS THE VICTIM

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:26 PM

Insinuate? Have you not noticed the "may have" in there?

:rolleyes:gotcha;)

aubrey04

09-13-2008, 03:26 PM

Yes they did.

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/files/casey_anthony_documents02.pdf

Pages 54 & 55

You're a saint, bchand. Thank you. Now I recall that summary of the interview with the Hopkins.. That's so weird that Casey called their house on the 16th.. strange.

btw: thanks to Jennyanydots, ~daddysgirl~ and Takotna for answering too..

5boxersmom

09-13-2008, 03:28 PM

Right.

So Cindy brought all of this on her family , from the way she parented her ill daughter, enabling her in a life of crime that not only involved theft but also murder. Then inviting the media, smoozing up to the camera, any camera, she couldn't resist those cameras, and I still think she wants that camera on her.

So now she wants them all gone from her house when not too long ago she demanded the attention to bring the focus on CAYLEE.

She should have thought of consequences before not later. Same with her parenting style that not only created psycotic Casey but also enabled her in crime, if not helped her cover up some of those crimes.

Not holding her accountable for the money she has stolen and for the child she has killed.

Cindy is not only in bed with the media but in my opinion, with a killer.

ITA and what do they think is going to happen if everything goes away? Still no Caylee, Casey is still going to be like she is. I don't understand them. If Casey gets away with murder this time, she will just think she can do it again. imo

Caylee:rose:

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:28 PM

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:28 PM

Hey Pru, you're right wasnt that Disturbia!?? It sure was for me. I had heard the tapes weeks ago; and again Im really glad that EVERYONE is now hearing them so we are all on the same page here.

Last night when I listened to her talking about that one apt where Jlewis lived and all "three girls" were never there at the same time; as they worked different Hours, well I think that is an Apt for call girls. I think LE just needs to break this wide open, even if NO ONE is still at that particular apt she spoke of. It sure wasnt the sawgrass apts either. She gave little info on the whereabouts, so I'd have to dissect that tape but I hope that LE is already CANVASSING the area to SEE; did anyone ever SEe Caylee or Casey there....And exactly what apt was she talking about anyway. I do not want to fill up my drive with porn or call girl sites, but I am sure that this is what Casey's profession was, based on what we've heard. It could explain her refusal to come clean with LE about what she really did for a living. At first I thought it was drugs, and that she was dealing. This is still of course a huge possiblity. As she told Lee, in the Park she wasnt exactly working or it wasnt exactly "fun" speaking in code even then. Lee knows exactly what Casey did for a living. Of that Im sure. dont mind me this is what happens when Frap meets Keyboard. Thanks Starbucks!!

How did you hear them weeks ago? Just curious..if you can't answer I understand.

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:28 PM

You're a saint, bchand. Thank you. Now I recall that summary of the interview with the Hopkins.. That's so weird that Casey called their house on the 16th.. strange.

btw: thanks to Jennyanydots, ~daddysgirl~ and Takotna for answering too..

That is the interview with Jeff Hopkins' father.
Not the Jeff Casey was talkng about.

tiny paw-prints

09-13-2008, 03:29 PM

No they can't.

The Anthonys didn't invite those people to the neighborhood.

Casey invited them to the neighborhood:

An analysis of Caylee Anthony's Disappearance

http://www.statementanalysis.com/caylee/

911: Hi. What can you...can you tell me what's going on a little bit?

Casey: I'm sorry?

911: Can you tell me a little bit what's going on?

Casey: My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days.

911: And you know who has her?

Casey: I know who has her. I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone call today. Now from a number that is no longer in service. I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment. About a minute.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:29 PM

Why is it ok for you to insinuate Casey's former friends have something to do with Caylee's disappearance, but the GPs are off limits?

:beer:
Well, there if a fact we know for sure, the GPs have known her for 22 years, they are the number one and two people on the prosecutions skeleton list, let the games begin!

st777jo

09-13-2008, 03:30 PM

Hey Pru, you're right wasnt that Disturbia!?? It sure was for me. I had heard the tapes weeks ago; and again Im really glad that EVERYONE is now hearing them so we are all on the same page here.

Last night when I listened to her talking about that one apt where Jlewis lived and all "three girls" were never there at the same time; as they worked different Hours, well I think that is an Apt for call girls. I think LE just needs to break this wide open, even if NO ONE is still at that particular apt she spoke of. It sure wasnt the sawgrass apts either. She gave little info on the whereabouts, so I'd have to dissect that tape but I hope that LE is already CANVASSING the area to SEE; did anyone ever SEe Caylee or Casey there....And exactly what apt was she talking about anyway. I do not want to fill up my drive with porn or call girl sites, but I am sure that this is what Casey's profession was, based on what we've heard. It could explain her refusal to come clean with LE about what she really did for a living. At first I thought it was drugs, and that she was dealing. This is still of course a huge possiblity. As she told Lee, in the Park she wasnt exactly working or it wasnt exactly "fun" speaking in code even then. Lee knows exactly what Casey did for a living. Of that Im sure. dont mind me this is what happens when Frap meets Keyboard. Thanks Starbucks!!

You may have some points there. Even after being found out about her not working at Universal, she still went on talking like she still worked. IMO, that is why it seems to roll off her tongue so easy about a job and her phone. IIRC, didn't someone mention about some sort of service call Universal something?

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 03:31 PM

Because it was a missing child case.

No, no one in that neighborhood will be able to sue that family and win. It will never happen. Impossible. Sue for WHAT? The bottom line is the law will see that the Anthonys did NOT "bring" anything to their neighborhood. The media came there. The protestors came there. The justice system would say it's not the fault of the Anthonys.

IMO, the media would have been long gone had there been one coherent statement coming out of that family. There would have been no protesters had there been no ridiculous stories concerning "people working outside the normal scope of things" and "she's leading you to a place, but she can't quite lead you to the exact place" and so forth. Throw in a bounty hunter with an RV parked outside and you've got the makings for making neighbors furious.

The neighbors have a problem too. It was a neighbor who threw the first punch at a protester. It is the Anthonys and neighbors (especially that girl with the blonde hair) who never missed an opportunity to mug for the camera.

So the HOA can, if it's within their bylaws, decide that the Anthony house is a nuisance to the neighborhood and are the root cause for the disruption.

Again, I would like to see the by-laws and I would like to see the actual injunction. I don't think the HOA has a leg to stand on. That's JMO.

mags

09-13-2008, 03:31 PM

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 03:31 PM

You totally misread the post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Not necessarily true, don't forget, Casey signed a sworn statement as well as did her friends, claiming that everything she said there was absolute truth.

Well we already know who lied to LE. Now if her friends may have done some things they regret in the past. Please tell me what that has to do with this case?

nutterbutter

09-13-2008, 03:31 PM

Ok, this is just my opinion.

I think they are waiting for her to break. They have her on charges that could net her 50 years for fraud and I do not think she will win any of those charges.

IMO I think it is just a matter of time before they offer her more immunity to tell what happened just to close this case and bring Caylee home for a proper buriel.

Now here is the major question to all of you.

When everything comes out do you think her parents will:

1. Stand behind her as she sits in jail for years or appeals a death penalty?

2. Will George and Cindy finally split and divorce?

3. What are the odds that Cindy Anthony will start a foundation named after Caylee and reap the rewards as Director with the moniker of helping find lost children?

4. If Casey is found guilty can her parents still sell rights, TV, Book, etc or would they be excluded to do so because of their relationship with Casey?
1. yes
2.they will split up and good ole Georgia will replace her with another hmmmmmmm model.
3. Cindy will not start anything except lawsuites to still claim ole casey is innocnt and Zannie did it.
4.Her parents I feel have already sold some rights although that is moo

Broderick

09-13-2008, 03:32 PM

Yes sir ree and they all put down the 9th, and I dont believe three people make a mistake on what day it was....now THAT was a poor attempt at an alibi. Early on. And it never washed with ME.

hammer

Dots....

That date all seems fine and dandy (on reasonable doubt creation) when you consider that same park mentioned so often had a murder of a counselor named Nicole there at that time. If they had found or find the body there, well, who knows what would be speculated on now. Darn camera's that keep dates.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:32 PM

And luckily for LE, so did the Grandparents.........;)

Yes, and if my memory is correct I didn't see the TAPED interviews LE did with the GP's in those docs, can we safely assume skeletons?

nc1948

09-13-2008, 03:33 PM

Under her picture, it states this...

due to the mass amount of tips coming through daily, the Anthony family is unable to read your comments and messages. however, we will do our best to relay any information to them. thank you for your support. -a friend of the anthony family

I don't know if it is actually run by Casey.

For any NORMAL family with a misplaced child this message would be very appropriate. Most families would be very busy looking under every rock, in every ditch and just walking the streets looking. But I guess the Anthonys are to busy matching stories and thinking for reasons for each piece of evidence released. For example: you said what-the car smelled like a dead body. Oh well , how about if we say it smelled like a pizza. I think that will work, we will just ignore you said body and no one will remember. JMHO

anyonesguess

09-13-2008, 03:33 PM

Isn't it interesting that certain posters defend the GP's as the victims and then when there are REAL victims of CRIME, they get slaughtered with inuendo from those same posters.

Proves the point that the purpose is to inflame and not in fact at all for the victims rights.

It is scary actually, like there is a heirarchy to who can be a victim and who cannot according to what ONE person thinks. Thank goodness our country is not run like that. That is a dictatorship imo.

Takotna

09-13-2008, 03:33 PM

dixie77

09-13-2008, 03:34 PM

Isn't it interesting that certain posters defend the GP's as the victims and then when there are REAL victims of CRIME, they get slaughtered with inuendo from those same posters.

Proves the point that the purpose is to inflame and not in fact at all for the victims rights.

===========

I agree. We always have the same ones that do the flaming here. JMO

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 03:34 PM

ITA and what do they think is going to happen if everything goes away? Still no Caylee, Casey is still going to be like she is. I don't understand them. If Casey gets away with murder this time, she will just think she can do it again. imo

Caylee:rose:

That whole family seems to think they have the right to do harm to other people and not face consequences for it.

Broderick

09-13-2008, 03:34 PM

Of course.

It seems as though the neighbors are siding with the Anthonys when it comes to the mob mentality out there, as well as is the HOA.

I can't seem to get a good read on that. I don't think we can say either way. We just don't know beyond some ancillary snippets and this injunction request is neither supporting nor disapproving. That was clear in the remarks to the press.

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:35 PM

Isn't it interesting that certain posters defend the GP's as the victims and then when there are REAL victims of CRIME, they get slaughtered with inuendo from those same posters.

Proves the point that the purpose is to inflame and not in fact at all for the victims rights.

I do believe you are right!

Has anyone found out what the papers that were served at the Anthony's last night were?

Anakerie

09-13-2008, 03:36 PM

Not necessarily true, don't forget, Casey signed a sworn statement as well as did her friends, claiming that everything she said there was absolute truth. ;)

And your point is?

Casey has been charged and arrested for lying to the investigators. None of the former friends have been charged and arrested for lying to the investigators.

I'll ask again, why do you insist that the former friends are just like Casey? Those former friends had real jobs. Some former friends were actually going to school. Those former friends seem to have real lives and not an imaginary one like Casey's.

~jomomma~

09-13-2008, 03:36 PM

hey everyone!

i'm just back at a computer for a few minutes.

last night they said Jose was at the house. was there any news after NG show last night?

TIA! :seeya:

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:37 PM

For any NORMAL family with a misplaced child this message would be very appropriate. Most families would be very busy looking under every rock, in every ditch and just walking the streets looking. But I guess the Anthonys are to busy matching stories and thinking for reasons for each piece of evidence released. For example: you said what-the car smelled like a dead body. Oh well , how about if we say it smelled like a pizza. I think that will work, we will just ignore you said body and no one will remember. JMHO

Great point!

lonetraveler

09-13-2008, 03:37 PM

Can you get death without a body? BTW good to see you sweet Katie.:seeya:

--------------------
IMO, If Casey is charged with 1st degree murder and the death penalty is laid on the table, then I think that Cindy and George and Lee and Baez will convince Casey to lead them to the body so that she can avoid the death penalty. Unless Caylee is found prior to this, I do not think that Casey will budge.

marshmallow

09-13-2008, 03:38 PM

I can't seem to get a good read on that. I don't think we can say either way. We just don't know beyond some ancillary snippets and this injunction request is neither supporting nor disapproving. That was clear in the remarks to the press.

If I were a neighbor there I'd be fed up with both the protesters and the Anthonys. I'd have enough "fed up" to spread around.

luvinlife

09-13-2008, 03:38 PM

The way I understood it was Caylee only ever had one cold on her whole life and it lasted 2 days. I'll have to listen to that again - I know how thorough you are!

AllMO:)

.

That is how I heard it as well, I just listened to it again to be sure.

5boxersmom

09-13-2008, 03:38 PM

That whole family seems to think they have the right to do harm to other people and not face consequences for it.

ITA. I also think they have the "Us against the world" attitude.

I remember Cindy saying she told Casey and Lee when her and George were gone they would only have each other. What about their spouses, children, What about CAYLEE?

Caylee:rose:

Broderick

09-13-2008, 03:39 PM

And your point is?

Casey has been charged and arrested for lying to the investigators. None of the former friends have been charged and arrested for lying to the investigators.

I'll ask again, why do you insist that the former friends are just like Casey? Those former friends had real jobs. Some former friends were actually going to school. Those former friends seem to have real lives and not an imaginary one like Casey's.

Several of them even had their own money, e.g.

Amy who had money in the bank before Casey got ahold of the checkbook.
Another friend also related borrowing her money.

Didn't her mom call her a mooch, thief, and a sociopath?

tiny paw-prints

09-13-2008, 03:39 PM

LOL

So now because a bunch of foolish pretend protesters create havoc, the Anthonys should be forced to move out of their own home?

Good luck with that one. ;)

Is there a script for:

"foolish pretend protesters" ?

What makes you think they are pretending?

marshmallow

09-13-2008, 03:40 PM

But you don't know that her friend's sworn statements were anymore truthful than Casey's.

and you don't know either, unless.... you do and you'd like to share your inside info with all of us. I know I'd appreciate any help in trying to muddle through all this.

As for me, I plan to assume the friends are being honest since the only lies I've seen proven to be lies are from Casey.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 03:41 PM

But you don't know that her friend's sworn statements were anymore truthful than Casey's.
I bet you that Baez has already checked her friends out and their statements and if he found out things that were lies then Cindy would of told the media by now. You know to save her precious murderer:flamemad:

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 03:41 PM

But you don't know that her friend's sworn statements were anymore truthful than Casey's.

But you don't know they weren't. Please stop assuming things, aren't you the one crying and complaining when anyone says anything or assumes or suggests anything about the grandparents so why is it alright to do it to her friends?

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:42 PM

Is there a script for:

"foolish pretend protesters" ?

What makes you think they are pretending?
How can you? I just ignored that post.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:42 PM

The bold really hurts my eyes, I am having to scroll by half the posts.
:(

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 03:42 PM

Casey invited them to the neighborhood:

An analysis of Caylee Anthony's Disappearance

http://www.statementanalysis.com/caylee/

911: Hi. What can you...can you tell me what's going on a little bit?

Casey: I'm sorry?

911: Can you tell me a little bit what's going on?

Casey: My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days.

911: And you know who has her?

Casey: I know who has her. I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone call today. Now from a number that is no longer in service. I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment. About a minute.

That has bugged me since the beginning. The line about the phone call coming that day and then the line going immediately out of service. To me that makes no sense. Does Zanny have a contact at the phone company who shuts her phone lines down the moment she gets off the line?

nutterbutter

09-13-2008, 03:42 PM

mags

09-13-2008, 03:43 PM

Yes very much like Bobby Cutts. That is exactly how they worked Jessies Case. And it worked, even with a bad cop.

I think he showed them where the body was before he was officially charged.

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 03:44 PM

Is there a script for:

"foolish pretend protesters" ?

What makes you think they are pretending?

I'm trying to figure out how you *pretend* to protest?
Unless of course you are acting in a movie or play :read:

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 03:45 PM

How can you? I just ignored that post.

Hmmmm, were the earliest protesters neighbors themselves?

They sure didn't want Casey coming back into that neighborhood.

Just going by memory here.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 03:45 PM

I think they are ONLY here to inflame and get posters banned as

opposed to those that are here for Caylee.

Pretend Posters.

:lol: I miss santa. I sure hope they cover this case on TruTv

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:45 PM

I'm trying to figure out how you *pretend* to protest?
Unless of course you are acting in a movie or play :read:

Oh oh I did once, but thats another story.

anyonesguess

09-13-2008, 03:46 PM

I agree.

I have always thought of my self as an advocate for victims in these cases. This case has been a confusing one though.

At this point I still don't see George and Cindy as victims, I see them as the creators of it. Although they could be victims, I have only seen incriminating behaviour from them.

I don't agree with the way they parent their daughter, thats for sure!

I totally agree. They have been bailing Casey out of her messes for awhile, and her own parents could prosecute her if they want for the monies she stole from Cindy. They continue to enable her as they are now imo

Unperson1984

09-13-2008, 03:46 PM

Beyond having specific laws written in advance of an upcoming event, which many times gets challenged anyway, can you cite some examples? Just my curiosity actually. I see it being a difficult action for a court to rule on when or if there are no laws written for this type of protest. This is not a permit request. This is individual protester action. In the case of planned parenthood, they tried and failed to get orders to move protesters to different areas if I recall correctly. It was overturned in higher courts in Minnesota I believe.

I believe that under the Madsen decision by the US Supremes, a Florida Judge may establish a 36 foot no protester buffer zone around a private residence, including the driveway. That 36 foot zone would move the protesters to the middle of the street blocking traffic, which would violate traffic laws.

Kathlb

09-13-2008, 03:46 PM

Maybe you can stick with topic, ok?

I agree, I get so tired of people trying to get the board closed. :no:

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 03:47 PM

I think they are ONLY here to inflame and get posters banned as

opposed to those that are here for Caylee.

Pretend Posters.

Your mom must be very proud. :beer:

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:47 PM

TY Shellberry your posts are always very intelligent and a good read. I like voices of reason! So ty; and I agree. Cindy has a green thumb and I really do believe that the Chloro was something they already, had on hand. I dont believe Cindy in that tape with Greta, that the tool shed was locked up becuase of TOOLS that Caylee could get into. Also her Body language on that tape as Greta opens the door and point blank pins her down about the Gas Can Report? She puts her head down, backs out of the shed and says in a little girl voice, oh you'd have to ask George about that..................

It's not rocket Science people!! hammer

That really upset me the first time I saw it and even as late as last night, that and the pool ladder info. I say thanks Greta, for that, as I believe she pulled that info right out of Cindy. Where is Mark F anyway? I wish that he would comment more on this case; I would love to know what his thoughts are at this point weeks later in the case.

:seeya:

Dots

np jenny, I feel likewise about your posts.
we have shed similar to theirs, ours is right out in the open, my very inquisitive, almost 20 month old daughter could care less about it. we have a lock on it-but we dont actually lock it, the padlock is just to keep the doors shut when it gets very windy.
I dont think it was locked for tools, I think because of chemicals, (or casey stealing) even though their shed is way back in the back corner of their house, all of caylees toys/playthings for outdoors were right there out in the open.
I cant see her venturing way back into the back corner of the house to look at the closed doors of the shed.
with nothing else of interest to her around, besides the side of the house. caylee is pretty tall, imo she cant reach the openings of the doors to open it.
I have to lift my arm up a little to get to the part that opens the doors.

we have a long 1 acre yard, as compared to wide, we have fireants galore up at the 'top' of the yard.
thankfully my daughter doesn't venture up that way, because all of her playthings are right near the house.
sometimes she'll take a walk up to the trees & gate to watch the cars, but Im right behind her. I scoop her up quick if she is walking near a fireant hill.
if she did constantly try to play up there, I'd look into anything that would rid us of the fireants totally.

imo/jmo/etc

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 03:48 PM

Oh oh I did once, but thats another story.

lol I think I know what you are referring to. If i'm wrong, either way. That's funny :lol:

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 03:48 PM

I am sure that a lot of the protesters are the neighbours..

I think they are too. That's why I don't think this injunction is going to fly.

JMO

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Using that theory, Casey hasn't been charged with murder as of yet either, so does that mean that she won't be?

Exactly. Kind of like when I explained to you that even though the GP's have not been arrested for obsturuction yet it means nothing.;)

aubrey04

09-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Aubry this is my feeling also. I feel that once the Anthonys did find out what happened to Caylee they went into the defense mode and began lying and telling stories to protect Casey. Caylee was only used as a means to not admit that Casey was not helping in the search for her daughter. Whenever someone questioned the Anthonys regarding what Casey may have done, the Anthonys held up Caylee's picture and said, "this is what is important". I would get so angry when I heard that, because if finding Caylee was so important, why were the Anthonys protecting the one person that could bring their granddaughter home.

The Anthonys anger is directed at everyone but the person sitting in their home who is laughing at the world while little Caylee is still missing. Casey is only concerned about herself, in her mind Caylee never existed after June 9.

This is JMO.

Please pray for justice for Caylee. :rose:

/ita!
Good afternoon everyone. I'm just getting to the board, and am starting from this post I am quoting so if it's been said, I aplogize.

I recall the statements that the kidnappers were being observed, and wish that those statements could be used in court for obstruction. Telling the police they have no idea where Caylee is, then saying to the media that the kidnappers are being observed by them, such a contradiction you rarely see these days. It's like the Anthonys expect the world to develop selective amnesia every time they make a new statement. :flamemad:

Good points, Farrahrani & Pebbles.. I agree with both of you.

Farrah- yes, the GPs did make contradicting statements in regards to the kidnappers. George said that they know who the kidnappers are and they are being watched. Cindy said that they didn't know where the kidnappers are or who they are, IIRC. Geez. They needed to at least get their story (lies) straight..

firefly75

09-13-2008, 03:49 PM

I'm trying to figure out how you *pretend* to protest?
Unless of course you are acting in a movie or play :read:
I am thinking if they are pretending then it is not really happening...So why is she so upset?:rolleyes:

kakax

09-13-2008, 03:50 PM

Exactly. Kind of like when I explained to you that even though the GP's have not been arrested for obsturuction yet it means nothing.;)

I love your posts!!:D

I'm going to check news sites, then head off for a bit..have a great day, everyone!!

ccat

09-13-2008, 03:51 PM

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:51 PM

That date all seems fine and dandy (on reasonable doubt creation) when you consider that same park mentioned so often had a murder of a counselor named Nicole there at that time. If they had found or find the body there, well, who knows what would be speculated on now. Darn camera's that keep dates.

that is just the thing though, caseys camera doesnt keep a date, if you have a camera with a rechargable lit. battery, you know that you have to charge constantly when you use it a lot.
every time you take it out to charge it, you need to reset the date when you put it back in.
I can set the date on my one camera back to 2000-well, the year automatically comes up as 2000.
I have a lot of pics of my daugther dated march 01, 2000 because Im just to lazy to change the date.
but anyhooo...

caseys nikon camera-does not keep a date, when you take the battery out, you need to reset.
again, you can find that info on the nikon website.

imo/jmo

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 03:51 PM

I am thinking if they are pretending then it is not really happening...So why is she so upset?:rolleyes:

Good question lol :shrug:

Anakerie

09-13-2008, 03:51 PM

Is there a script for:

"foolish pretend protesters" ?

What makes you think they are pretending?

I'm still trying to figure out what a "pretend protester" is! LOL
:shrug:

firefly75

09-13-2008, 03:53 PM

:seeya: Firefly

How far do posters think that Cindy would go to PROTECT her daughter from any charges and/or convictions?

Theft?

Murder??

Maybe Casey will kill them next.
C_E:seeya:

I think there is no limit that Cindy will go to protect Casey. I think she will protect Casey even before Lee and George. IMO

Carol25

09-13-2008, 03:54 PM

barskin&co.

09-13-2008, 03:55 PM

Let me ask everyone a question:

How many here would let someone dictate to them what they could say or not say in their own home?

The idea that they are not suppose to talk to Casey about Caylee is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard.(I understand that from a lawyers point of view)Casey is the daughter and Caylee the missing grandaughter and if I wanted to ask questions I would.
There would be no one to make me do different.
Consdering it is my home and my family.

If she didn't want to answer she would be out of my house.

It is time that people stopped treating Casey like the sun rises and sets because of her.
time to be accountable.

I just would not have anyone telling me how to act or what to say especially in my house.

does anyone else have similar thoughts?

Oh, do I ever agree. Someone asked before, what her parents could do that the police couldn't do, and I answered, "Plenty." Her parents can (and God knows they should) ask her questions without Mirandizing her. They do not have give her a lawyer. Caylee is their granddaughter. Yet, instead of demanding answers, the Anthonys have buckled under to her and enabled her to abandon all hope of bringing Caylee home to rest.

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 03:55 PM

Until this case goes to trial, or probably prior to that after she's charged and LE promotes more "leaks", the truthfulness of Casey's friends isn't really known to be true at all.

True. Luckily a lot of the GP's lies have been made in public. For everyone to see.;)

dixie77

09-13-2008, 03:55 PM

But you don't know that her friend's sworn statements were anymore truthful than Casey's.
========================

So in order to believe that statement, one would have to believe that her former friends lie as much as (or more than) Casey does. YEAH OK. jmo

5boxersmom

09-13-2008, 03:56 PM

that is just the thing though, caseys camera doesnt keep a date, if you have a camera with a rechargable lit. battery, you know that you have to charge constantly when you use it a lot.
every time you take it out to charge it, you need to reset the date when you put it back in.
I can set the date on my one camera back to 2000-well, the year automatically comes up as 2000.
I have a lot of pics of my daugther dated march 01, 2000 because Im just to lazy to change the date.
but anyhooo...

caseys nikon camera-does not keep a date, when you take the battery out, you need to reset.
again, you can find that info on the nikon website.

imo/jmo

But wouldn't LE know this? Why did they tell the Anthony's that? hmmmm. Why are the Anthony's not saying NO the date is wrong. We last saw Caylee on the 9th? Oh I am so hammer

Caylee:rose:

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:56 PM

It appears that two of the cases of check fraud have been closed as of 9/11. Does that mean C and G are making restitution and litigators are not pressing charges now?

The new charges today...are they economic as well?

Little confused. :confused:

ohh interesting!
I wonder if they did/are paying them back.
they did that when casey stole from her gf didnt they?
imo/jmo

tiny paw-prints

09-13-2008, 03:57 PM

I'm trying to figure out how you *pretend* to protest?
Unless of course you are acting in a movie or play :read:

It's a coping mechanism to pretend. Survival.

SandyO

09-13-2008, 03:58 PM

Probably that since the pretend protesters don't have enough intelligence or decency to not trample the Anthonys lawn and bang on their door at 7AM pretending to "demand" answers of which they're not at all entitled to, the Anthonys would tape it off to give them a hint - of which even after that, the pretend protesters weren't intelligent enough to recognize.

Let's change the word "protesters" to demonstrators.

Carol25

09-13-2008, 03:59 PM

ohh interesting!
I wonder if they did/are paying them back.
they did that when casey stole from her gf didnt they?
imo/jmo
When I saw "case closed" I was was hoping it was for neglect. And it was being replaced with murder....

That's why I asked about the new charges. :)

mags

09-13-2008, 03:59 PM

ohh interesting!
I wonder if they did/are paying them back.
they did that when casey stole from her gf didnt they?
imo/jmo

Wouldn't those charges be dropped when they filed the formal charges. I assumed they were rolled up into those ten other charges.

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 03:59 PM

The bold really hurts my eyes, I am having to scroll by half the posts.
:(

lol
I dont mind the bold, and I dont mind people using colors either.

this new board for this case, it is even harder to keep up than before.

the bold and colors help me to pick up where I left off when I walk away from the comp for a bit.

IMO/JMO

:rose: caylee

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:01 PM

Well pretend protesters are what pretend posters talk about.
:D

That makes perfect sense!

Carol25

09-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Wouldn't those charges be dropped when they filed the formal charges. I assumed they were rolled up into those ten other charges.
I don't know how it works. I had the link on my favorites and it just had four cases, updated as of 9/13.

So, perhaps there's another place to look and it appears lumped together somewhere else.

tiny paw-prints

09-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Until this case goes to trial, or probably prior to that after she's charged and LE promotes more "leaks", the truthfulness of Casey's friends isn't really known to be true at all.

Would that be the truthfulness of Casey's friends or her "foolish pretend" friends?

I need clarification, thanks.

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:03 PM

I believe that under the Madsen decision by the US Supremes, a Florida Judge may establish a 36 foot no protester buffer zone around a private residence, including the driveway. That 36 foot zone would move the protesters to the middle of the street blocking traffic, which would violate traffic laws.

The fixed buffer zone,,,, but was that limited to the public access to abortion only. I don't think it applies in this case.

Again, it is just a curiosity. I appreciate the post very much.

I can see a judge issuing the temporary injunction, under what Florida law will be interesting. I can also see it being challenged. Heck, all we need is the ACLU being added to the circus.

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 04:03 PM

Until this case goes to trial, or probably prior to that after she's charged and LE promotes more "leaks", the truthfulness of Casey's friends isn't really known to be true at all.

So do you know or are you again assuming they will be a witness for the prosecution?

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 04:03 PM

True. Luckily a lot of the GP's lies have been made in public. For everyone to see.;)

They sure are going to be fun to watch on the stand, I am willing to bet between the GPs they will spend many more days squirming in the witness chair than Casey's friends. Can you imagine the field day the prosecuters are going to have with all the news clips. I can't wait till they ask GA who is watching the kidnappers & CA why she thinks he daughter deserves the mother of the year award. LE might be using the soft gloves on GPs right now, but that will change when they are on the stand.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:04 PM

The neighbors have been speaking out against the mob mentality out there, which in turn has furthered the cause of the HOA to appeal as they have done.

They've also started to tape off their own properties because they're sick and tired of the mob not having the decency to stay where they belong.

Well mabey the "mob" is sick because the Anthony's don't have the decency of helping to look for Caylee. The Anthony's are trampeling all over innocent Caylee with all the lies. IMO I would rather be known as a "mob" who trampled all over a lawn than as a "family" who trampled all over a 3 year old!

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 04:06 PM

ohh interesting!
I wonder if they did/are paying them back.
they did that when casey stole from her gf didnt they?
imo/jmo

Is that because they have now filed the formal charges? Does one replace the other?

aubrey04

09-13-2008, 04:07 PM

That is the interview with Jeff Hopkins' father.
Not the Jeff Casey was talkng about.

bchand just gave me the link. Jeff Hopkins I (the dad) and Jeff Hopkins II(Casey's ex-classmate) were both interviewed. On page 54 - it talks about how Jeff Jr no longer had the same telephone # and he did not live at such and such address.

Then this is what is said in the police report regarding the interview of Jeff Hopkins JR,..the same one Casey was talking about -- I believe, since it says they went to the same HS, page 55:

Jeffrey Hopkins II went to high school with Ms. Anthony. Jeffrey Hopkins II had not seen years until two or three weeks prior to July 16th, 2008. Jeffrey Hopkins II ran into Ms. Anthony while they were eating with separate parties at 641 North Alafaya (Orlanda Ale House). Ms. Anthony and Jeffrey Hopkins II had a brief conversation and returned to their meals.

but his parents claim that Casey called them at 0500am on July 16th.. well, at least someone called from her phone.. because it read on their caller ID, "Anthony Casey 407-619-9286". (page 54)...

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/files/casey_anthony_documents02.pdf

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

In Caseys own words, and its still interesting, that Casey said that her MOM would understand the BOND between a mother and daughter.

Im reading between the lines and I think I know EXACTLY what Casey was referring to, that a Mother, Her Mother would protect her, and help her avoid prosecution from ANY mistakes she made, including killing Caylee.
could very well be. The sad part of this is to bad Casey could not understand the "bond between a mother and daughter" :(

5boxersmom

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

Back to discussing Caylee and the body that was in the trunk of that Sunfire.

Look at these pics of the trunk.

I think its barely large enough to get a set of golf clubs in there.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/03corolla_le_trunk.jpg

This is a 1999 sunfire, see how the back seat folds down?

http://www.infected.ca/carpc/emptytrunk.jpg

The trunk IS small and you have to take into consideration the wheel wells that are on either side..

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~beno/journal/2004/pictures/20040702sooni1web.jpg

My BIL has a Sunfire and I have looked in the trunk to see how big it is.:) See where the dog is standing in the one photo? The trunk goes back quite a bit. Like under the back window. It is big enough to hold a body expecially a small body. :rose:

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

But wouldn't LE know this? Why did they tell the Anthony's that? hmmmm. Why are the Anthony's not saying NO the date is wrong. We last saw Caylee on the 9th? Oh I am so hammer

Caylee:rose:

I dont know.
OR maybe they do know.

LE said they gave the camera they took to a camera person.
my ex's bro is a big camera seller in PA, so I know what I post about cameras is fact.
I can post the link to his ebay and his store, he has dealt with cameras, film & developing for ages.
all the camera person would know is the date that was stamped on the photos on the card.
if she had to put the battery back in and reset the date--that is the date they would see.
you cant see a previous date once the date has been reset again.

the camera they took from the house was a kodak camera--not caseys nikon.
I think whatever happened on the 9th-which was the sunday before fathers day. they are trying to give an extra week.
maybe in the beginning the anthonys thought the body would be found.
if caylee had been given any drugs or anything-they'd need that extra week for the drugs to be out of her system.
I think they took caylee for an early fathers day visit. (the 9th)

imo/jmo

but it is the same thing for a kodak camera with the dates/battery.

I really think that they were hoping to find a body soon.
at this point, god forbid, if caylee is out in the elements, they arent going to be able to tell anything, her tissue will all be gone :(

snowflakes

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

ohh interesting!
I wonder if they did/are paying them back.
they did that when casey stole from her gf didnt they?
imo/jmo

Could be. They allegedly got a lot of money for the 20/20 interview. JMO

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

IMO, the media would have been long gone had there been one coherent statement coming out of that family. There would have been no protesters had there been no ridiculous stories concerning "people working outside the normal scope of things" and "she's leading you to a place, but she can't quite lead you to the exact place" and so forth. Throw in a bounty hunter with an RV parked outside and you've got the makings for making neighbors furious.

The neighbors have a problem too. It was a neighbor who threw the first punch at a protester. It is the Anthonys and neighbors (especially that girl with the blonde hair) who never missed an opportunity to mug for the camera.

So the HOA can, if it's within their bylaws, decide that the Anthony house is a nuisance to the neighborhood and are the root cause for the disruption.

Again, I would like to see the by-laws and I would like to see the actual injunction. I don't think the HOA has a leg to stand on. That's JMO.

Well I agree with what you say about the HOA and also agree they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The problem is proving the Anthonys "caused" any of this. We out here in cyberspace on message boards can rage all we want about how Cindy and George are subhuman and everything is their fault, they raised a monster, they lied to LE, they sucked up to the media and yada yada yada, but a court of law would never see it that way. We have bias speaking right here on the board, that's all there is to it. A lawsuit against the Anthonys for that purpose would be laughed out of court. In fact I bet no attorney would even take the case. Just IMO.

trich

09-13-2008, 04:08 PM

When I saw "case closed" I was was hoping it was for neglect. And it was being replaced with murder....

That's why I asked about the new charges. :)

Case closed could be the stealing from the great great grandfathers nursing home account.
Cindy did get the money from her 401k to pay that back.
I suspect since it was family and Cindy paid the account back the money Casey took that those charges were dropped especially since Cindy made those charges to start with.

You would think Casey would have some kind of guilt for tht alone.

st777jo

09-13-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by trich View Post
Let me ask everyone a question:

How many here would let someone dictate to them what they could say or not say in their own home?

The idea that they are not suppose to talk to Casey about Caylee is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard.(I understand that from a lawyers point of view)Casey is the daughter and Caylee the missing grandaughter and if I wanted to ask questions I would.
There would be no one to make me do different.
Consdering it is my home and my family.

If she didn't want to answer she would be out of my house.

It is time that people stopped treating Casey like the sun rises and sets because of her.
time to be accountable.

I just would not have anyone telling me how to act or what to say especially in my house.

does anyone else have similar thoughts?
------------------------------------------------------------

I most definitely share your thoughts. I probably would have torn into her when she said 31 days. And no way would I have bailed her out without her leading me right to Caylee. And believe me on what I say, ask anyone in my family.

Shellberry

09-13-2008, 04:11 PM

When I saw "case closed" I was was hoping it was for neglect. And it was being replaced with murder....

That's why I asked about the new charges. :)

oh I have no clue--all of you who quoted me on it, I dont know.

if you are little and you get caught shoplifting, a lot of times the stores threaten, but wont press charges as long as the money gets paid back.

That is what I was going on, maybe they all got their money & decided against lawsuit.
who know-those are pretty big stores, people may boycott going there in the future. especially the people out there who think casey is innocent.

kwim?

imo/jmo

Unperson1984

09-13-2008, 04:12 PM

The fixed buffer zone,,,, but was that limited to the public access to abortion only. I don't think it applies in this case.

Again, it is just a curiosity. I appreciate the post very much.

I can see a judge issuing the temporary injunction, under what Florida law will be interesting. I can also see it being challenged. Heck, all we need is the ACLU being added to the circus.

It was a Florida case and also dealt with protesters at a private residence, and the fact that the message of the protesters can have no bearing on such injunctions. So I would think a Florida Judge can impose a buffer zone against protesters at a private residence.

GentleBreeze

09-13-2008, 04:13 PM

I did read that LE retrieved the garbage bag from where Mr Birch dumped it.

I certainly hope they did find it. What I would like to know if there were still maggots in the bag?

I have often thought that the trunk may have been strewn with junk and she laid Caylee's body on top of it. Papers, trash, pizza box etc. Then when she removed her body, she then quickly picked up everything in the trunk and threw all the items in the bag.

The reason I asked about the maggots is I read a link about the Body Farm and the founder said that if a body is covered, such as, with a blanket, will have maggots quicker than a body that was not covered.

IMO

barskin&co.

09-13-2008, 04:13 PM

They sure are going to be fun to watch on the stand, I am willing to bet between the GPs they will spend many more days squirming in the witness chair than Casey's friends. Can you imagine the field day the prosecuters are going to have with all the news clips. I can't wait till they ask GA who is watching the kidnappers & CA why she thinks he daughter deserves the mother of the year award. LE might be using the soft gloves on GPs right now, but that will change when they are on the stand.
Actually, it might be impossible for the defense to put George and Cindy on the stand at all. I would not expect them to testify, unless the prosecution calls them as hostile witnesses, which I also doubt. I think the jury will hear the 911 calls ("the car smells like there's been a dead body in it") and the jailhouse calls ("Whose fault is it you're sitting in jail. Are you blaming me you are sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. What do you mean it is not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you would have told them the truth and not lied about everything…"), and it's going to be baaaaad.

dixie77

09-13-2008, 04:14 PM

Well mabey the "mob" is sick because the Anthony's don't have the decency of helping to look for Caylee. The Anthony's are trampeling all over innocent Caylee with all the lies. IMO I would rather be known as a "mob" who trampled all over a lawn than as a "family" who trampled all over a 3 year old!
===============

Excellent post!!!!!!!
I dont like when Casey gets bailed out of jail but i have to accept it because its her right. The protestors have a right to be at the A's home....if they step over the line then they will be cited or should be cited. The A's brought all of this on theirselves. And thats just how it is. JMO

Anakerie

09-13-2008, 04:14 PM

Well pretend protesters are what pretend posters talk about.
:D
Ohhh! I get it now!

I'll just have to scroll on by the "pretend poster" that likes to talk about the "pretend protesters" then... heehee...

On another subject, has anyone heard if the flooded areas are getting dry enough to search yet?

Kathlb

09-13-2008, 04:15 PM

It was a Florida case and also dealt with protesters at a private residence, and the fact that the message of the protesters can have no bearing on such injunctions. So I would think a Florida Judge can impose a buffer zone against protesters at a private residence.

LE said the other day that they had to be VERY careful not to usurp any First Amendment rights. So it was going to be a touchy situation. I'm thinking it could go either way.

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:15 PM

It was a Florida case and also dealt with protesters at a private residence, and the fact that the message of the protesters can have no bearing on such injunctions. So I would think a Florida Judge can impose a buffer zone against protesters at a private residence.

It was private property, but not a private residence.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-880.ZS.html

Am I reading the right case?

Velouria

09-13-2008, 04:15 PM

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I agree. We always have the same ones that do the flaming here. JMO

I stopped paying attention to them long ago, because IMO Shakespeare summed it up best:

"...full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I'll leave off the first part of the quote because it just might get me banned. ;)

Amy, Ricardo, Tony, et al, have not been named persons of interest and I find it highly unlikely that they will be at anytime in the future.

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 04:16 PM

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 04:16 PM

lol
I dont mind the bold, and I dont mind people using colors either.

this new board for this case, it is even harder to keep up than before.

the bold and colors help me to pick up where I left off when I walk away from the comp for a bit.

IMO/JMO

:rose: caylee
I guess today will be a slow news day.

Some stuff doesn't bother my eyes, but the bold really bothers me. I am reading 5 pages at once, so I am not just focused on here. I had brain surgery and ever since certain visual things are painful to my eyes.
The only reason I said anything is because I love reading all the posts, I was experiment with the italics to see if they would bother me on here, they don't seem as bad.

I would hate to miss a good post, because I have to scroll by it and any around it out of my eye sight area.

These boards are full of great info and opinions on casey and I love reading every word of them.:D

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 04:18 PM

Casey uses and manipulates Amy and takes her for everything she could and now Amy get's blasted and accused of anything and everything. including pretending to be Casey's friend? On top of what she did to Amy she did the same to her own parents and grandparents. Yet Amy is being targeted and accused of things Casey herself did all on her own.

UNBELIEVABLE.

What's next accusing Amy of being responsible for Casey murdering her own child? :rolleyes:

I think Amy would have got stuck with the majority of the bills, where was Casey ever going to get the money to pay rent? Her job at universal?

Maybe she would have got one, but I kinda doubt it.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:19 PM

My part of the MOB since I am a tax payer in FLORIDA is tired of my tax dollars being wasted on the likes of that family
and their many lies and wild goose chases.

All the crazy 911 calls that this family make whining about a situation they knew would happen when they allowed their bailed thief, liar, and possible baby killing daughter to come back to their house.

All the GAS that the LE has spent carrying her sorry self around to all these nanny locations and job THAT DONT EXIST.

The time LE is using up on 'watching' out for her so some fed up tax payer dont take a whop at her...All this time that is being paid by TAX PAYERS.

I think the Anthony's owe you some money back:D You might try to get it back because I hear they are now millionaires.....

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:19 PM

I guess today will be a slow news day.

Some stuff doesn't bother my eyes, but the bold really bothers me. I am reading 5 pages at once, so I am not just focused on here. I had brain surgery and ever since certain visual things are painful to my eyes.
The only reason I said anything is because I love reading all the posts, I was experiment with the italics to see if they would bother me on here, they don't seem as bad.

I would hate to miss a good post, because I have to scroll by it and any around it out of my eye sight area.

These boards are full of great info and opinions on casey and I love reading every word of them.:D
Great post, I am partially blind so I love that you made that post.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:20 PM

===============

Excellent post!!!!!!!
I dont like when Casey gets bailed out of jail but i have to accept it because its her right. The protestors have a right to be at the A's home....if they step over the line then they will be cited or should be cited. The A's brought all of this on theirselves. And thats just how it is. JMO

Agree 100%!!!

purplepoints

09-13-2008, 04:23 PM

I think they took caylee for an early fathers day visit. (the 9th)

respectfully snipped

The home where Cindy's dad is confirmed that she and Caylee were there on the 15th IIRC

st777jo

09-13-2008, 04:23 PM

Imagine the difficulty in getting an injunction against people that chose to protest, that LIVE on that street.

I don't think it will work.

Too bad Cindy.

Really dumb. If I wanted to walk my dog past the Anthonys house, I have the right. I would also have the right to carry a sign with me.

All Day Long. Thanks Lionel

dixie77

09-13-2008, 04:24 PM

I stopped paying attention to them long ago, because IMO Shakespeare summed it up best:

"...full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I'll leave off the first part of the quote because it just might get me banned. ;)

Amy, Ricardo, Tony, et al, have not been named persons of interest and I find it highly unlikely that they will be at anytime in the future.
========

OHHHHHH i love that "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing". Lets try and remember that when we read...........i cant say anything else. lol And i agree with u.......no one is a POI except Casey. JMO

tiny paw-prints

09-13-2008, 04:24 PM

Considering the fact that Amy was about to share residence with Casey, do you really want to get into "foolish pretend friends"? ;)

I think it's more likely that Casey misJudged Amy to be a "foolish pretend friend". Amy has the intregrity about her character that is forcing Casey to legally meet the intersection of accountability, trust, responsibility, integrity, consequences, etc.

I don't believe Casey Marie Anthony ever considered Kristina Marie Chester to be a "foolish pretend friend", although I could be wrong. By all reports and credible sources, Kristina is a close friend to the Anthony family and Casey.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:24 PM

Casey uses and manipulates Amy and takes her for everything she could and now Amy get's blasted and accused of anything and everything. including pretending to be Casey's friend? On top of what she did to Amy she did the same to her own parents and grandparents. Yet Amy is being targeted and accused of things Casey herself did all on her own.

UNBELIEVABLE.

What's next accusing Amy of being responsible for Casey murdering her own child? :rolleyes:

I tell ya....I think the way some people think that Amy should have been as deceitful as Casey:( Thank god she wasn't!!!

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:25 PM

And that's not for the mob to determine nor rectify - that's LE's job.

Nope, but it is absolutely their right to 'protest'.
;)

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:25 PM

that is just the thing though, caseys camera doesnt keep a date, if you have a camera with a rechargable lit. battery, you know that you have to charge constantly when you use it a lot.
every time you take it out to charge it, you need to reset the date when you put it back in.
I can set the date on my one camera back to 2000-well, the year automatically comes up as 2000.
I have a lot of pics of my daugther dated march 01, 2000 because Im just to lazy to change the date.
but anyhooo...

caseys nikon camera-does not keep a date, when you take the battery out, you need to reset.
again, you can find that info on the nikon website.

imo/jmo

I believe LE has verified that Caylee and Cindy were at the facility on the date of the photo, in ways other than just the photo.

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:27 PM

Really dumb. If I wanted to walk my dog past the Anthonys house, I have the right. I would also have the right to carry a sign with me.

All Day Long. Thanks Lionel

Thinking like that is exactly why I am interested in the attempted injunction being presented by the Home Owner's Association which has power over its members but not over others in regards to public property. Now if they put a no-protest allowed in the charter and vote accordingly on it, they can probably fine members of the HOA for violation I guess. That would be thrown out too if taken to court imo.

barskin&co.

09-13-2008, 04:27 PM

I think Amy would have got stuck with the majority of the bills, where was Casey ever going to get the money to pay rent? Her job at universal?

Maybe she would have got one, but I kinda doubt it.

Oh, absolutely! I don't believe that Amy would have wanted to move in with Casey if she knew that she was lying about being employed. Not only that, if Casey found some guy to move in on and pay her way, she would have left Amy holding a lease, high and dry.

dixie77

09-13-2008, 04:28 PM

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:28 PM

Their attorney might advise them to plead the fifth.
And I wonder how that will come across to the jury. but it is their given right.

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 04:28 PM

I believe LE has verified that Caylee and Cindy were at the facility on the date of the photo, in ways other than just the photo.

That is why LE told Casey they knew she was even lying about the last time she saw Caylee. They know it was not the 9th and when and how she said.
It wasn't just because they didn't see her on servailence video. If everyone listens to that interview. They are telling her they know she is even lying about the last time she saw Caylee.IMO

Takotna

09-13-2008, 04:29 PM

bchand just gave me the link. Jeff Hopkins I (the dad) and Jeff Hopkins II(Casey's ex-classmate) were both interviewed. On page 54 - it talks about how Jeff Jr no longer had the same telephone # and he did not live at such and such address.

Then this is what is said in the police report regarding the interview of Jeff Hopkins JR,..the same one Casey was talking about -- I believe, since it says they went to the same HS, page 55:

but his parents claim that Casey called them at 0500am on July 16th.. well, at least someone called from her phone.. because it read on their caller ID, "Anthony Casey 407-619-9286". (page 54)...

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/files/casey_anthony_documents02.pdf

Thanks for the specifics! IMO Casey was spinning her lies and she included Jeff H. > Yes, he was a real person (tiny speck of truth) but for the purposes of her story he was a made-up character. I think she wouldn't have even thought of him if it hadn't been for bumping into him so recently. Strange about the call - she was with LE - did someone else have her phone - especially since Lee (in jail talks) was trying to get Casey to remember where her phone(s) were...:shrug:

AllMO:)

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:29 PM

I believe LE has verified that Caylee and Cindy were at the facility on the date of the photo, in ways other than just the photo.

They did.

(Replys must be 10 characters now????)

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:30 PM

Oh, absolutely! I don't believe that Amy would have wanted to move in with Casey if she knew that she was lying about being employed. Not only that, if Casey found some guy to move in on and pay her way, she would have left Amy holding a lease, high and dry.

Hey hows bean town? ITA, Casey has no soul, she would use the devil himself and come out on top.

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 04:31 PM

I think Amy would have got stuck with the majority of the bills, where was Casey ever going to get the money to pay rent? Her job at universal?

Maybe she would have got one, but I kinda doubt it.

I sure wouldn't be banging the drum of casey and Amy living together, since they were supposed to move into the anthony's house. One could think there may have been a plan to get the house by some ilegal way, if you start down that road.

Unperson1984

09-13-2008, 04:31 PM

It was private property, but not a private residence.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-880.ZS.html

Am I reading the right case?

It dealt with both, the original Florida law imposed a 300 foot buffer zone around a private residence, the Supremes ruled that distance violated the protesters First Amendment rights. However they did hold that the 36 foot buffer zone around a clinic was legal and could be applied to a private residence.

The part of the decision dealing with a private residence is only one small paragraph toward the end of the ruling.

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:32 PM

They did.

(Replys must be 10 characters now????)

Yes but if you want to make a short reply just add dots after it:

yes.........

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:32 PM

And I wonder how that will come across to the jury. but it is their given right.
Cindy does not even have to say a word to make you have an opinon about her.....She can talk with her expressions..

BTW....I already know some are going to say you cannot judge on expressions..blah...blah....well sorry but I can:)

5boxersmom

09-13-2008, 04:32 PM

So does everyone think the 9th was the date they all came up with together? Is that why GA said family friends saw Caylee at a shopping center the 12? Were they working this date together until LE got the 15th date from the camera and the ALF? I also think Casey messed up with the date saying 31 days. 31 days from the 9th is not the 16th, but is is from the 15th.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:32 PM

Yes but if you want to make a short reply just add dots after it:

yes.........

Good idea!!!!!!

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:33 PM

I sure wouldn't be banging the drum of casey and Amy living together, since they were supposed to move into the anthony's house. One could think there may have been a plan to get the house by some ilegal way, if you start down that road.

Wondering out loud how she intended to get the house. No doubt, with the mortgage and all, if a divorce was Casey's reasoning, was she believing that would entitle her to the house or that they would just give her the house? How could she afford it? I wonder if they had insurance policies. Maybe she had bigger plans.

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:33 PM

Cindy does not even have to say a word to make you have an opinon about her.....She can talk with her expressions..

BTW....I already know some are going to say you cannot judge on expressions..blah...blah....well sorry but I can:)

Me too, scratch scratch.

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:34 PM

If I were an Anthony neighbor, I'd be much more concerned about living close to evil than I would being temporarily inconvenienced by the media cameras, protesters, and increased traffic.

None of it would thrill me, but I really believe I'd feel much differently about my home and surroundings knowing what was living a few houses down or round the corner.

Me too. Especially since George and Lee have both proven themselves willing to assault other people (unarmed women at least). I think all of the danger in that situation comes from inside of that house.

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:34 PM

It is VERY interesting that the Anthonys ALL stayed away from the June 15-16th as the dates they last saw Caylee.

Puts new light on that fight at the house.

What fight? Keep in mind no neighbor ever stated there was a fight on Father's Day.

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:35 PM

It is VERY interesting that the Anthonys ALL stayed away from the June 15-16th as the dates they last saw Caylee.

Puts new light on that fight at the house.

There was a marriage and family councilor that was about Casey's age that was kidnapped, raped, and murdered in Blanchard park around the 9th. The 9th may have a more reasonable appeal to the family if the body is found in Blanchard park because it could have been blamed on some killer already active on that date. Would that be the focus had the 9th not been disrupted by a camera and pictures?

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:36 PM

cindy has expressions alright...hammer
so do george and lee...:punch:

And casey.....:shrug:

lmao......

barskin&co.

09-13-2008, 04:36 PM

And I wonder how that will come across to the jury. but it is their given right.

I do not believe that they will have to take the fifth. IMO, they will never be called to testify.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 04:36 PM

Cindy has expressions alright...hammer
so do George and Lee......:punch:

And Casey.....:shrug:

ahhhhh...your good!

st777jo

09-13-2008, 04:37 PM

It is VERY interesting that the Anthonys ALL stayed away from the June 15-16th as the dates they last saw Caylee.

Puts new light on that fight at the house.

IIRC, didn't CA say she tucked them in bed on the night of the 15th but Nate said Casey slept over that night. And GA was watching the food channel when Casey got ready to leave, and described Casey's clothing.

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:37 PM

What fight? Keep in mind no neighbor ever stated there was a fight on Father's Day.

We dont know if a neighbor did or not.
There are still pieces of evidence/statements we havent seen.

We have just heard it reported, but have not seen anything official as of yet.

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:38 PM

It does indeed.

The whole family had to get their stories straight.

Too bad for them they screwed that part up royally.

But why did they pick June 9th, which is a Monday. who released the picture from fathers day? Why did Caylee look so scared in that picture?.

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:38 PM

I think Amy liked Casey and trusted her. I believe she had totally fallen for some of her lies but not all. She loaned Casey her car..that shows trust and a like right there.

I think Casey used that and Amy got burned big time. I respect Amy for filing charges.

I agree. There is nothing to suggest that Amy ever did anything bad to Casey. There's no denying that Amy is the victim. There is video taped evidence in this case. Casey used Amy, lied to Amy and robbed Amy.

What's unclear about that?

steffaroob4

09-13-2008, 04:38 PM

Wondering out loud how she intended to get the house. No doubt, with the mortgage and all, if a divorce was Casey's reasoning, was she believing that would entitle her to the house or that they would just give her the house? How could she afford it? I wonder if they had insurance policies. Maybe she had bigger plans.

interesting... isn't it
I can't believe that Lee is even over there, if she was my sister I would be scared to DEATH.:eek:

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:40 PM

And no surprise. Arrogance is not a substitute for intelligence.

That would make a great siggy.

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:40 PM

Prob because she isnt around this grandfather often...looked shy to me.
I thought it was posted early on Cindy took her there often?

trich

09-13-2008, 04:41 PM

I believe LE has verified that Caylee and Cindy were at the facility on the date of the photo, in ways other than just the photo.

Yes they had signed in when they went too!
I remember reading that!

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 04:42 PM

No one was assaulted so badly that it prevented them from appearing on Nancy Grace.
:rolleyes:

So what? So you are saying you have to be badly hurt to file assault charges?

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:42 PM

We dont know if a neighbor did or not.
There are still pieces of evidence/statements we havent seen.

We have just heard it reported, but have not seen anything official as of yet.

Heard it reported by who?

IIRC, Mark Fuhrman reported on Greta that a neighbor told him there was arguing that weekend (no date specified) which wasn't unusual, there was always arguing over there.

So, unless you can tell me something other than that, I haven't heard anyone state there was a fight ON Father's Day. :shrug:

aubrey04

09-13-2008, 04:42 PM

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:42 PM

No one was assaulted so badly that it prevented them from appearing on Nancy Grace.
:rolleyes:

Is whether or not you are able to appear on Nancy Grace an accepted guage as to how bad an assault was?

Which court uses 'The Nancy Grace' rule to determine if an assault was bad or not?

A link would be nice.......;)

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:43 PM

I do not believe that they will have to take the fifth. IMO, they will never be called to testify.

I can see that being the case. If put on the stand nothing they say could be trusted, because they've been caught in so many lies.

If the Defense put them on, the Prosecution would bring out all of those lies. It wouldn't benefit anyone to put those two on the stand.

Though I imagine they'll both want to get up there and perform.

Rebel Rouzer

09-13-2008, 04:45 PM

But why did they pick June 9th, which is a Monday. who released the picture from fathers day? Why did Caylee look so scared in that picture?.

Willow. I have a feeling that with all the confusuion and emotions going on at that time. The Anthony's were mistaken at first and were going by the weekend Casey gave for the last time she saw Caylee. It wasn't until they sat down and thought about it and their memories were refreshed that they knew it was the Fathers day weekend. I believe it was They and the people at the home where Cindy's mother is that the dates changed by Cindy and George. While Casey stuck with the 9th. I may be way off base here but I believe thats what transpired in the beginning. Then I believe after the Anthiny's intentionally tried to cover for Casey. One of them I believe did more than just try and cover for her more than just verbally.
Again. I may be wrong. But I may not be either.

Some things just do not add up especially the complete turn around by the Anthony's after the 911 call and search of their own backyard etc. IMO

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 04:47 PM

Heard it reported by who?

IIRC, Mark Fuhrman reported on Greta that a neighbor told him there was arguing that weekend (no date specified) which wasn't unusual, there was always arguing over there.

So, unless you can tell me something other than that, I haven't heard anyone state there was a fight ON Father's Day. :shrug:

Heres one news report (for what its worth) that said the fight was right before Casey left.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:47 PM

Often but not everyday. I see my nieces two kids maybe a couple times a month..sometimes once a week..her youngest is almost three and will do the shy thing for a few before she lets me hold her.

maybe it's your perfume. J/K LOL, I met my grandson for the second time when he was 10 months old, he took to me
immediately, but then again he probably saw my immature side. ;)

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:47 PM

There was a marriage and family councilor that was about Casey's age that was kidnapped, raped, and murdered in Blanchard park around the 9th. The 9th may have a more reasonable appeal to the family if the body is found in Blanchard park because it could have been blamed on some killer already active on that date. Would that be the focus had the 9th not been disrupted by a camera and pictures?

Is that the crime that was referred to when someone, one of the Anthonys I think, said something to the effect of, if that crime had been solved this never would have happened?

Broderick

09-13-2008, 04:49 PM

It dealt with both, the original Florida law imposed a 300 foot buffer zone around a private residence, the Supremes ruled that distance violated the protesters First Amendment rights. However they did hold that the 36 foot buffer zone around a clinic was legal and could be applied to a private residence.

The part of the decision dealing with a private residence is only one small paragraph toward the end of the ruling.

I read number 8 which applies to staff residences and I can assume the smaller buffer zone is 36 feet in application. If that is the case they use, it may apply but it is a stretch imo because they are very narrow rulings and apply specifically to residences of abortion workers and this clinic.

If it were to somehow applys, where is the residence start and end? The beginning of the sidewalk? Thirty six feet is not that much and if you were the one that said the middle of the road that would probably be correct.

Has this case been applied to other protests and demonstrations in Florida????

I can't wait to see the injunction itself and the opinion from the court and the ruling. The ruling may be anybodies guess, but I would want to see if it gets challenged if it restricts anything. Nevertheless, the 36ft buffer wouldn't apply if the request is put the zone a block away.
How do those folks on that side of the fiasco feel?

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:51 PM

Willow. I have a feeling that with all the confusuion and emotions going on at that time. The Anthony's were mistaken at first and were going by the weekend Casey gave for the last time she saw Caylee. It wasn't until they sat down and thought about it and their memories were refreshed that they knew it was the Fathers day weekend. I believe it was They and the people at the home where Cindy's mother is that the dates changed by Cindy and George. While Casey stuck with the 9th. I may be way off base here but I believe thats what transpired in the beginning. Then I believe after the Anthiny's intentionally tried to cover for Casey. One of them I believe did more than just try and cover for her more than just verbally.
Again. I may be wrong. But I may not be either.

Some things just do not add up especially the complete turn around by the Anthony's after the 911 call and search of their own backyard etc. IMO
Which brings up another thing, I saw here yesterday that the Anthony's dug up their yard before calling LE?

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:51 PM

Would you really like to argue degrees of assault?

George & Lee have a penchant for violence towards women. End of story.

IMO.

Regardless of the "Degree", Assault is against the law. George had no right to put his hands on anyone who was not threatening or touching him.

st777jo

09-13-2008, 04:51 PM

I can see that being the case. If put on the stand nothing they say could be trusted, because they've been caught in so many lies.

If the Defense put them on, the Prosecution would bring out all of those lies. It wouldn't benefit anyone to put those two on the stand.

Though I imagine they'll both want to get up there and perform.

If I was the prosecutor, I would put them on, hostile or not, because some people, including me, thinks there was a cover up. JMO

Snewpy

09-13-2008, 04:52 PM

Heres one news report (for what its worth) that said the fight was right before Casey left.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html

Thank you for the link... I'm trying to catch up - is TE coming back after the ground dries out? Or is the search by them actually "called off" indefinitely?

Prayers for Caylee...

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:52 PM

:beer: I hope Lee gets charged for assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder. shame on him!

For what?:confused:

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:54 PM

:beer: I hope Lee gets charged for assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder. shame on him!

LE needs to stop turning a blind eye to the things the Anthonys are doing. It just supports that family's belief that they are above the law.

Ionmhainn

09-13-2008, 04:54 PM

Would you really like to argue degrees of assault?

George & Lee have a penchant for violence towards women. End of story.

IMO.

I don't feel any need to argue degrees of assault, but do take issue with "penchant." I think that's a bit of a stretch. imo

SavannahStar

09-13-2008, 04:55 PM

Thank you dtviewer:seeya:

The Anthonys tried to distance the disappearance of Caylee from the date of that FIGHT.

Yes thank you. But.......no "Father's Day" fight.

dixie77

09-13-2008, 04:55 PM

I'm not so sure the neighbors fully support a bunch of ill mannered "protesters" standing outside their childrens bedroom windows, chanting "baby killer", displaying fake tombstones, monster costumes, damage to their landscaping, and last but not least, dog doo left behind on their property.

moo
============

I may be wrong but u sound (or post) just like another poster here. JMO

kitty1182

09-13-2008, 04:55 PM

link please that there was dog doo.

lol..lol ...

barskin&co.

09-13-2008, 04:56 PM

Well, here's a completely unsurprising news article:

Audio of Casey Anthony's July 16 interview with investigators reveals deception, voice-analysis expert says
Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writer
September 13, 2008
Photos and videos of Casey Anthony have topped news shows for weeks but offered little insight about the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie.

Audio recordings released Friday of Anthony's interview with Orange County Sheriff's Office investigators offer new details about the 22-year-old single mother as she was pressed hard for the truth.

To Susan Constantine, a local jury consultant and expert in voice-stress analysis, the recordings of the July 16 interview are revealing.

Constantine listened to the statements Anthony made a day after she was arrested and charged with child neglect, filing a false statement and obstructing a criminal investigation.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308sep13,0,6848116.story

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:56 PM

Link please that there was dog doo.

There wasn't any on the video of Lee threatening that woman and stealing her stuff. I doubt she would have left any behind either. If she had, you know we'd have heard about it.

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 04:57 PM

lol..lol ...
did I tell you I don't like Merlot. gag.

cutiepatootie61

09-13-2008, 04:58 PM

I can see that being the case. If put on the stand nothing they say could be trusted, because they've been caught in so many lies.

If the Defense put them on, the Prosecution would bring out all of those lies. It wouldn't benefit anyone to put those two on the stand.

Though I imagine they'll both want to get up there and perform.

I would think that Cindy at least will have to take the stand, she made the 911 call to report Caylee missing. No?

Snewpy

09-13-2008, 04:58 PM

Link please that there was dog doo.

If anyone needs a link to dog doo.. I think you can just come to my yard on any given day :eek:

Can anyone verify for me when the A's looked in their backyard? Was it after they got the car back that smelled like decomp, and BEFORE the 911 calls? Or after the first 911 calls when Cindy "found out" Caylee was missing, but before the police got there? I'm confused on the timing of that.

TIA

Prayers for Caylee

True2Blues

09-13-2008, 04:59 PM

Well, here's a completely unsurprising news article:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308sep13,0,6848116.story

Funnily enough, I am not surprised.

st777jo

09-13-2008, 04:59 PM

Does anyone know if Casey get convicted on the charges she now has against her, will she go in general population?

WillowInFlight

09-13-2008, 05:00 PM

I don't know the date of the fight, other than it was mid June.

Allegedly around Fathers Day, although I am not sure.

We just know that Casey left after that with Caylee and she was never seen again...

It was, my dad died the day before Fathers day, so I hold that day dear to my heart. I would never forget a fight.

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 05:00 PM

Yes thank you. But.......no "Father's Day" fight.

No, but the post you replied to said 15-16th.

Quote:
Originally Posted by C_E
It is VERY interesting that the Anthonys ALL stayed away from the June 15-16th as the dates they last saw Caylee.

Puts new light on that fight at the house.

[QUOTE=SavannahStar]What fight? Keep in mind no neighbor ever stated there was a fight on Father's Day. [QUOTE=SavannahStar]

Snewpy

09-13-2008, 05:01 PM

It was, my dad died the day before Fathers day, so I hold that day dear to my heart. I would never forget a fight.

My condolences, Willow... Prayers for you and your family ...

Unperson1984

09-13-2008, 05:01 PM

I read number 8 which applies to staff residences and I can assume the smaller buffer zone is 36 feet in application. If that is the case they use, it may apply but it is a stretch imo because they are very narrow rulings and apply specifically to residences of abortion workers and this clinic.

If it were to somehow applys, where is the residence start and end? The beginning of the sidewalk? Thirty six feet is not that much and if you were the one that said the middle of the road that would probably be correct.

Has this case been applied to other protests and demonstrations in Florida????

I can't wait to see the injunction itself and the opinion from the court and the ruling. The ruling may be anybodies guess, but I would want to see if it gets challenged if it restricts anything. Nevertheless, the 36ft buffer wouldn't apply if the request is put the zone a block away.
How do those folks on that side of the fiasco feel?

The ruling in Madsen relied on a previous ruling in the 1988 Frisby case. In the Frisby case the Court made reference to all types of picketing and protest outside a private residence.

firefly75

09-13-2008, 05:02 PM

There wasn't any on the video of Lee threatening that woman and stealing her stuff. I doubt she would have left any behind either. If she had, you know we'd have heard about it.
YeP! Cindy would of been on the Television telling us all about it!

BTW....Dixie you deserve a Scooby snack;)

crymeariver2006

09-13-2008, 05:02 PM

Yes thank you. But.......no "Father's Day" fight.

In your opinion there was no Father's Day fight.

But if the article says the argument occurred "mid June", and "30 days hath September, April, June and November"...."mid June" can be construed as June 15th, which coinkydinkly WAS Father's Day.

Just as we haven't seen the exact date and cannot say for sure that June 15th (Father's Day) was the day of the fight, you cannot say for certain that it wasn't.

:tongue:

dtviewer

09-13-2008, 05:02 PM

One of the smarter ones... I trust.

:no:

:confused:

MichelleP

09-13-2008, 05:03 PM

Some links

http://www.northfloridacriminaldefense.com/topics/assaultandbattery.html

http://www.cobblawfirm.com/assault_battery.htm

784.03 Battery; felony battery.--

(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:

1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or

2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/09/09/bizarre-george-anthony-in-altercations-and-facing-charges-with-protestors-and-casey-anthony-high-fives/

I think he would be charged with that if he is charged. Maybe someone could verify that for me.

But 1. does not say that you have to hurt the person you strike or touch.