Friday September 12 - Night thread

[puppies]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308sep13,0,6848116.story?track=rss

Investigator: Did Zenaida give you any money that day [you last saw Caylee]?

Anthony: No. I would not have sold my daughter. If I wanted to really just get rid of her, I would've just left her with my parents and I would've left. I would've moved out. I would've given my mom custody.



How the ***** can she talk like this about Caylee?:flamemad:

[puppies]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308sep13,0,6848116.story?track=rss

Constantine : Anthony has "a bit of sarcasm in her voice. She is also nervous when she says 'absolutely' twice. She fumbles for a word that will add validity to her statement. She says 'absolutely scared,' and that is probably the most telling sign of deception. She is also quite rehearsed in her statements."



A BIT?Not only is she very sarcastic but also very arrogant,IMO.

[Lynden1000]

Here's the scoop:

Searchers thought they had a break in the case when bones were found near the Anthony's Orange County home Sunday. However, it was determined that someone had wrapped a dead dog in a baby blanket.

During Monday's search, several other piles of bones were found on Lee Vista Boulevard.

"It looks like a spine or backbone," searcher Martin Krasinsqui said.

The new bones were marked for investigators.

You can read the rest of the article here :)

http://www.local6.com/news/17362849/detail.html

I really rely on local6.com for the most current info. It's a great bookmark!

Melanie

I was part of the search team that found the bones you mention above- the ones that looked like a backbone. We didn't hear any official results, but I did see Tim Miller walk by the individuals who had found the bones and say that they were almost certainly animal bones.

[SavannahStar]

Or that Elizabeth Smart was sealed in a tomb - I believe that one even made the NG program.

Caylee's case has been no different with sensationalistic rumors which all too quickly morph themselves into being someone's form of "truth".

I dont recall any rumours running rampant in this case.

Only theories and opinions.

this case is unique as we initially saw a very dark side of the POI, without much audio....just those abbreviated jailhouse calls....which were SHOCKING as to her demeanor with her mother, brother and girlfriend...

a missing child, never reported missing and mom is yelling 'what about me!'.....

Shocking...which hardly leaves any room for rumours as to what kind of person Casey Anthony is...

best regards,
Pru

Pru I don't think DG was necessarily talking about rumors about what kind of person Casey is.

I have seen a lot of rumors in this case myself. One of the biggest I've seen, and I noticed it was still being discussed last night, is that of a big blow-up argument on Father's Day. I read where someone posted (paraphrased), "the neighbor said" there was a major fight that night. I've researched this pretty in-depth, and can't to this day find any verification of that. The only thing is what Mark Fuhrman told Greta....that a neighbor told HIM that there was arguing that weekend...he did not specify any day of the weekend, and only said that this was not unusual, that there was always arguing heard over in that house.

(I have read sporadically that "Rick" did claim there was an argument that night...to my knowledge, that is the only time I've heard that, specifically "that night." I didn't read where he said this myself, though. And I consider anything HE said to be a rumor anyway. Not verified.)

IMO, to say that there was one BIG MAJOR argument on Father's Day NIGHT which precipitated all of this is total speculation. But quite often it's tossed out there as "fact."

So that's just one example of a rumor in this case. There are more: the plate glass window incident with George; George's gambling habit; now we even have George's alleged ex-wife saying he had a bad temper.

Any of the above COULD be true, but we just don't have the solid proof.

But to say there are NO rumors in this case is, IMO, just plain wrong.

[chrissybot]

Nope, to "slander" one would had to have made a statement/s as a fact.

Eight years ago I was bed ridden for over 6 months. I had the most loving & caring nurse who fell apart in tears when the doctor gave me 2 1/2 days to live.

Her being a nurse for 2 decades I thought it strange as I figured they were kinda use to deaths.

I recovered obviously but she didn't, she had a bad crystal meth addition for many years. I think she is out of prison now but lost custody of her Children.

I had no ideal she had an addiction & she was a good Mother as her Children were very healthy, happy and well mannered.

I knew another nurse decades ago who also lost her Children & had many additions.

Being a nurse does not make one immune to addictions. It's also IMO a very hard job, one I know I could not do.

Sly
G'morning:seeya: everyone. Actually if you listen to Cindy & George's defense attorney the night he was on NG, he referred to Cindy as a FORMER nurse. Just wanted to clarify that for everyone.

[Leanne Weich]

You need to learn how to quote I believe. Where did brain tumor come into play to with this whole cherade. So people are starting to believe that Casey has some sort of brain malfunction. Could it be from drugs? I'm very sorry but I can't find it in my christian heart to have any feeling for her or her family. I also see no reason to continually rehash each event, whether the cam moved today or she moved today. I Want News About Caylee. Sorry if you thought I didn't believe in humanity. If Casey believed in humanity would we be having this exchange?

Nobody is forcing you to rehash events - or even read here for that matter. If you don't like the way things are done around here, maybe you should open your own forum where you can teach people how to quote and prescribe what can and cannot be discussed. JMO.barf

[MyrDawn]

G'morning:seeya: everyone. Actually if you listen to Cindy & George's defense attorney the night he was on NG, he referred to Cindy as a FORMER nurse. Just wanted to clarify that for everyone.

The 10th of Sept? I read the transcript and don't see him refer to Cindy as a "former" nurse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/10/ng.01.html

JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone! I woke up really anxious this morning, I think it's due to listening to the audio yesterday in addition
to watching the progression of Ike on the Gulf Coast, and then
hearing about that terrible train crash in California where so many
died.

I tell ya, we need some good news this weekend. :(

[zinnia]

OK, I'm just throwing this out here. If one has a nanny they usually don't work for free and I don't imagine that Casey had only cash to pay her. Has anyone heard anything about a paper trail of cashed checks for Zanny? That at least would prove/disprove that she exsited.
So want Caylee found. As all of us here do.
Peace for
Caylee
:rose:

[crymeariver2006]

The 10th of Sept? I read the transcript and don't see him refer to Cindy as a "former" nurse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/10/ng.01.html

JMO

It may not be in the transcript, but he definitely said "former nurse".

I heard it and thought "Huh?"

Then I figured he was just referring to the fact that she wasn't working now.

[chrissybot]

The 10th of Sept? I read the transcript and don't see him refer to Cindy as a "former" nurse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/10/ng.01.html

JMO
uo!:eek:. I don't at all care for that man, now I gotta go rewind my DVR & play it agin. DARNIT!!

[SavannahStar]

OK, I'm just throwing this out here. If one has a nanny they usually don't work for free and I don't imagine that Casey had only cash to pay her. Has anyone heard anything about a paper trail of cashed checks for Zanny? That at least would prove/disprove that she exsited.
So want Caylee found. As all of us here do.
Peace for
Caylee
:rose:

OMGosh, what a GREAT point about paper trail to Zanny!! :beer: I have such faith in LE, no doubt they checked that out, but honestly I've never seen that mentioned on here.

[chrissybot]

It may not be in the transcript, but he definitely said "former nurse".

I heard it and thought "Huh?"

Then I figured he was just referring to the fact that she wasn't working now.
TY CRY!! I did NOT want to watch that man again! Thanks for verifying!:seeya:

[zinnia]

OMGosh, what a GREAT point about paper trail to Zanny!! :beer: I have such faith in LE, no doubt they checked that out, but honestly I've never seen that mentioned on here.

This case is like a bad movie that runs in my head all the time. Woke up this morning with the question...hope LE has checked it out.
TY!!

[Marianne]

Great post Melanie


I'm sorry but the quote that the above quote is responding to will not appear but it seems to reference much of what I posted recently ..this am.

i have to disagree with you about spirit. Spirit is love.love is light and truth. Spirit does not hold a grudge. Even if you kill someone if there was love there it will never die. That is what jesus came to tell people.

Also there is no proof that Casey did kill Caylee...all we can do is speculate. The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it. You dont need that much to kill someone.

Also I am if very different belief. A body does not need to buried to have the spirit rise from it. As I said no one can destroy love. many people are cremated and yet doesnt prevent their spirit being with their loved ones.

Caylee is not suffering, she is not caught in some nether world. Her spirit is intact and she has transcended. it would be nice to bring her body home as it would provide closure and completness and some comfort but it in no way interferes with the love bond between mother and daughter.

I too can at times get drawn in to wanting to see her punished but I try to step back and realize she is human and her reasons are beyond our control and understasnding.

You do not understand the scope of her mother's influence or how the mind works. Be careful not to project your own feelings and needs on to her. What I mean by need is the need to scapegoat someone , to condemn them to eternal suffering. The dichotomy , the switching between lamenting about poor Caylee and then the lynching of woman of whom we have little to no proof of her deed is truly sickening. It is sad that in this day and age people can be so careless with their words and emotions. Revenge is not of love and accomplishes nothing.

TV is full of misinformation and spin. It is the most deadening assault on our senses out there.. TV gave the public what it wanted to hear tonight.

Please try for objectivity.

[Leanne Weich]

I have read that George is working late night shift for security company...he could have just been leaving for work. Not trying to be a pessimist, but I'm not getting my hopes up about this.

Maybe the 2 security guards we saw at the Anthony home are work mates of George and are helping him out by sitting there in the hopes of intimidating protesters.

[Regina.Lampert]

OK, I'm just throwing this out here. If one has a nanny they usually don't work for free and I don't imagine that Casey had only cash to pay her. Has anyone heard anything about a paper trail of cashed checks for Zanny? That at least would prove/disprove that she exsited.
So want Caylee found. As all of us here do.
Peace for
Caylee
:rose:

Good thinking zinnia, but I'm sure the ever resourceful casey would say that she paid Zanny under the table in cash so Zanny
didn't have to report the money as income. :rolleyes:

[SavannahStar]

I'm sorry but the quote that the above quote is responding to will not appear but it seems to reference much of what I posted recently ..this am.

i have to disagree with you about spirit. Spirit is love.love is light and truth. Spirit does not hold a grudge. Even if you kill someone if there was love there it will never die. That is what jesus came to tell people.

Also there is no proof that Casey did kill Caylee...all we can do is speculate. The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it. You dont need that much to kill someone.

Also I am if very different belief. A body does not need to buried to have the spirit rise from it. As I said no one can destroy love. many people are cremated and yet doesnt prevent their spirit being with their loved ones.

Caylee is not suffering, she is not caught in some nether world. Her spirit is intact and she has transcended. it would be nice to bring her body home as it would provide closure and completness and some comfort but it in no way interferes with the love bond between mother and daughter.

I too can at times get drawn in to wanting to see her punished but I try to step back and realize she is human and her reasons are beyond our control and understasnding.

You do not understand the scope of her mother's influence or how the mind works. Be careful not to project your own feelings and needs on to her. What I mean by need is the need to scapegoat someone , to condemn them to eternal suffering. The dichotomy , the switching between lamenting about poor Caylee and then the lynching of woman of whom we have little to no proof of her deed is truly sickening. It is sad that in this day and age people can be so careless with their words and emotions. Revenge is not of love and accomplishes nothing.

TV is full of misinformation and spin. It is the most deadening assault on our senses out there.. TV gave the public what it wanted to hear tonight.

Please try for objectivity.

Interesting post. Very definitely a minority viewpoint. I agree with much of what you said, not all of it. You have a kind heart and I hope you don't get "bashed" for your personal feelings and beliefs. :rose:

[Regina.Lampert]

I'm sorry but the quote that the above quote is responding to will not appear but it seems to reference much of what I posted recently ..this am.

i have to disagree with you about spirit. Spirit is love.love is light and truth. Spirit does not hold a grudge. Even if you kill someone if there was love there it will never die. That is what jesus came to tell people.

Also there is no proof that Casey did kill Caylee...all we can do is speculate. The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it. You dont need that much to kill someone.

Also I am if very different belief. A body does not need to buried to have the spirit rise from it. As I said no one can destroy love. many people are cremated and yet doesnt prevent their spirit being with their loved ones.

Caylee is not suffering, she is not caught in some nether world. Her spirit is intact and she has transcended. it would be nice to bring her body home as it would provide closure and completness and some comfort but it in no way interferes with the love bond between mother and daughter.

I too can at times get drawn in to wanting to see her punished but I try to step back and realize she is human and her reasons are beyond our control and understasnding.

You do not understand the scope of her mother's influence or how the mind works. Be careful not to project your own feelings and needs on to her. What I mean by need is the need to scapegoat someone , to condemn them to eternal suffering. The dichotomy , the switching between lamenting about poor Caylee and then the lynching of woman of whom we have little to no proof of her deed is truly sickening. It is sad that in this day and age people can be so careless with their words and emotions. Revenge is not of love and accomplishes nothing.

TV is full of misinformation and spin. It is the most deadening assault on our senses out there.. TV gave the public what it wanted to hear tonight.

Please try for objectivity.

Do you believe in our Justice System? In other words, if casey anthony is charged in the death of Caylee, tried and convicted do you support the punishment given by the court?

[MyrDawn]

It may not be in the transcript, but he definitely said "former nurse".

I heard it and thought "Huh?"

Then I figured he was just referring to the fact that she wasn't working now.

Must be the reason. If she'd lost her nursing license, I think we'd have heard about it.

JMO

[zinnia]

Good thinking zinnia, but I'm sure the ever resourceful casey would say that she paid Zanny under the table in cash so Zanny
didn't have to report the money as income. :rolleyes:

Ohhh but if the IRS got wind of that then poor Casey would spend almost as long in jail as for any of her other crimes. The IRS makes me run :chicken:!!

[MyrDawn]

I'm sorry but the quote that the above quote is responding to will not appear but it seems to reference much of what I posted recently ..this am.

i have to disagree with you about spirit. Spirit is love.love is light and truth. Spirit does not hold a grudge. Even if you kill someone if there was love there it will never die. That is what jesus came to tell people.

Also there is no proof that Casey did kill Caylee...all we can do is speculate. The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it. You dont need that much to kill someone.

Also I am if very different belief. A body does not need to buried to have the spirit rise from it. As I said no one can destroy love. many people are cremated and yet doesnt prevent their spirit being with their loved ones.

Caylee is not suffering, she is not caught in some nether world. Her spirit is intact and she has transcended. it would be nice to bring her body home as it would provide closure and completness and some comfort but it in no way interferes with the love bond between mother and daughter.

I too can at times get drawn in to wanting to see her punished but I try to step back and realize she is human and her reasons are beyond our control and understasnding.

You do not understand the scope of her mother's influence or how the mind works. Be careful not to project your own feelings and needs on to her. What I mean by need is the need to scapegoat someone , to condemn them to eternal suffering. The dichotomy , the switching between lamenting about poor Caylee and then the lynching of woman of whom we have little to no proof of her deed is truly sickening. It is sad that in this day and age people can be so careless with their words and emotions. Revenge is not of love and accomplishes nothing.

TV is full of misinformation and spin. It is the most deadening assault on our senses out there.. TV gave the public what it wanted to hear tonight.

Please try for objectivity.

Yes, this is an interesting post. As you say, TV is full of misinformation and spin. So are message boards. Case in point...you stated as a fact, and didn't say it's your opinion that "The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it."

May I ask your source for that information?

[SavannahStar]

Yes,this is an interesting post. As you say, TV is full of misinformation and spin. So are message boards. Case in point...you stated as a fact, and didn't say it's your opinion that "The chloroform was for cleaning the car that is why there is so much of it."

May I ask your source for the information?

I caught that too and that is one reason I said I didn't agree with ALL of her post. But then I also am not entirely sure Casey killed Caylee with chloroform. :shrug:

[Leanne Weich]

After hearing all the tapes you still believe that Cindy killed Caylee???? That's crazy! It's clear that Cindy was mad a Casey for not letting her speak to Caylee for 31 days and Casey was hiding away from her mother and Cindy had to track her down at Tony's apt. If Cindy killed Caylee then why was she the one that reported her missing? If I killed someone I wouldn't be reporting it. This theory of Cindy killing Caylee doesn't make sense & the only one that is guilty right now is Casey and LE knows it.

ITA even though I have yet to listen to the tapes. I have felt this way since day one though.

[MyrDawn]

I caught that too and that is one reason I said I didn't agree with ALL of her post. But then I also am not entirely sure Casey killed Caylee with chloroform. :shrug:

:seeya:
I'm not sure she killed her with chloroform, either. I don't have any doubt Casey is responsible for her death, though.

In fact,gasp I'm not even sure whether it was deliberate murder or as a result of negligence as in drowning or being locked in a hot car.

[SavannahStar]

:seeya:
I'm not sure she killed her with chloroform, either. I don't have any doubt Casey is responsible for her death, though.

In fact,gasp I'm not even sure whether it was deliberate murder or as a result of negligence as in drowning or being locked in a hot car.


Oh I'm right with you on all that too.

[nutterbutter]

Oh I'm right with you on all that too.
New daily thread open.



http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340083