Shady characters

[KEEPINITREAL]

Oj simpson has become a thug!!!!! What i think is real weird is how 3 or so years after he was accquited of the murder i saw him on cnn getting busted by the fbi for a breif case full of the illegal drug exctasy.street value of those pills is 15-20 dollars a pill!!!! What ever happened to that case??? Obviously a faulty search warrant but i've never seen a case so quietly swept away!!!!!!!!i mean there was a breif case full of exctasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At his house. What did he do threaten to sue the feds for interupting his party.
Murder!road rage!drugs!now robbery! That's a thug folks.

[Spyder88]

Oj simpson has become a thug!!!!! What i think is real weird is how 3 or so years after he was accquited of the murder i saw him on cnn getting busted by the fbi for a breif case full of the illegal drug exctasy.street value of those pills is 15-20 dollars a pill!!!! What ever happened to that case??? Obviously a faulty search warrant but i've never seen a case so quietly swept away!!!!!!!!i mean there was a breif case full of exctasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At his house. What did he do threaten to sue the feds for interupting his party.
Murder!road rage!drugs!now robbery! That's a thug folks.

You get no arguement from me! :D

Personally, I think thug doesn't even come close to what I think he really is.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

You get no arguement from me! :D

Personally, I think thug doesn't even come close to what I think he really is.



HUMMMMM:beer: I could use some colourful language but wont waste my breath on this useless excuse for a human being..He will meet his reward after he moves on to the here after..he may want to invest in fire retardent garments!!

LMS:biggrin:

[callmetree]

You’re forgetting that O J Simpson is a former Heisman trophy award winner, a star running back, a top notch movie actor, and a hero to the black community, before his recent run of bad luck which began shortly after he was falsely accused of murder by the LAPD and the LA county prosecutors office :flamemad:


Yerka1

this man was at one time a very respected person and well thought of by anybody that had followed his career. his fall from grace was self induced. i sat thru his entire trial 13 years ago and can clearly remember the day the jury came in with a not guilty verdict. :( i cried. i agree there were alot of things done wrong in that trial but in my heart of hearts i feel this person on trial got away with 2 murders. this is just my opinion. all some of us can hope for is that this jury will find this man guilty. it's simply time he pay for all the times he has hurt others. i for one have a hard time even saying this person's name. i still see the faces of the three familys he destroyed.:rose: jmo

[Philly]

You’re forgetting that O J Simpson is a former Heisman trophy award winner, a star running back, a top notch movie actor, and a hero to the black community, before his recent run of bad luck which began shortly after he was falsely accused of murder by the LAPD and the LA county prosecutors office :flamemad:


Yerka1

:lol: "Run of Bad Luck". That usually means something like - losing one's job due to downsizing, having monstrous medical bills, losing one's home due to foreclosure.

Orenthal is totally responsible for what he has become. He had a great opportunity to make a success of his life. But he is a ruthless thug who thinks he is above the law.

[hiitsme]

:beer:

Bet ya that poster was on the jury who slept throughout the murder trial.

Yeah, can you imagine? What a stroke of bad luck for O.J. for losing the civil trial only because he was "falsely accused" according to that poster. Little does that poster know how many crimes O.J. has committed since that time. Man, such bad luck for O.J....NOT

imo

:lol:

Hi bookclubfan
I'll bet that poster Yerka1's comments are facetious. Noone in their right mind would state that OJ Simpson was a top notch actor! barf His acting since he murdered 2 people has been pathetic.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Love it! He's going down now: can't wait till Monday! :beer:

I sure hope Justce is served this time..even with the Civil Conviction..and responsibility for the deaths , followed by a judgement against him..with the tip off..OJ was able to hide his assets..which we have now heard about. If OJ's excuse for liberating all those items at gunpoint along with his pack of goons was to retrieve HIS Property??? I find that rediculous..as actually this property actually belongs to the Goldman's and the Browns's by extension of the Judgement against OJ!!

How can anyone get away with such a premis?..As to OJ's thug mentality.he has indeed surrounded himself with anyone and everyone who he can control, manipulate and drops them like a hot potatoe and rolly eyes..jokes and lies about his role..HUMMMMM..Me thinks he sees himself as a "DON" of the sleazy side of society..and those sucked into "his family" should have known better..they are like "Pons" in OJ's "Games of Life" He gets others to do his dirty work..and yes, I even wonder just how far his legal reps have gone to hide inculpating facts!

LMS:no:

[Alibar]

Can you truly blame O J Simpson for acting the way he has?

Wherever he goes he’s treated like a pariah, an outcast, someone to be feared, even though he was acquitted by a jury of his peers. that same jury who was sequestered for 266 days and sat there patiently in the courtroom for 8 months of testimony, and yet, who decided after a mere 3 ½ hours that O J Simpson was completely innocent.

If O J Simpson became a thug it’s because you and I, and countless others made him that way :mad:

Yerka1

No, no, no, at no time was he found "completely innocent" as you've stated above. He was found not guilty, which is not at all the same thing. In our courts a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent.

[hiitsme]

Can you truly blame O J Simpson for acting the way he has?

Wherever he goes he’s treated like a pariah, an outcast, someone to be feared, even though he was acquitted by a jury of his peers. that same jury who was sequestered for 266 days and sat there patiently in the courtroom for 8 months of testimony, and yet, who decided after a mere 3 ½ hours that O J Simpson was completely innocent.

If O J Simpson became a thug it’s because you and I, and countless others made him that way :mad:

Yerka1

Just curious, what movie made OJ Simpson a top notch actor in your view? That assessment of him said it all! barf

[hiitsme]

No, no, no, at no time was he found "completely innocent" as you've stated above. He was found not guilty, which is not at all the same thing. In our courts a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent.

ITA Alibar
It was "Spin City" by the defense and an awestruck jury who bought it and acquitted this murderer.

[Alibar]

ITA Alibar
It was "Spin City" by the defense and an awestruck jury who bought it and acquitted this murderer.

Also, about him being a thug... He simply reverted to his younger years when he ran with thugs during his teens. His football talents helped him rise above it, but, he couldn't maintain the front of respectability and when consumed by burning rage, he took the knife and committed the murders, leaving behind the life he could have had.

I don't even like to look at him, especially when he's wearing those blue contact lens. To me, thos blue eyes magnify his killer personna.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Can you truly blame O J Simpson for acting the way he has?
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YES I DO!...LMS..JMOO
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Yerka1

Wherever he goes he’s treated like a pariah, an outcast, someone to be feared, even though he was acquitted by a jury of his peers. that same jury who was sequestered for 266 days and sat there patiently in the courtroom for 8 months of testimony, and yet, who decided after a mere 3 ½ hours that O J Simpson was completely innocent.
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HE HAS BEEN TREATED with more deferrance than most ..\He made sure of that!! As for those jurors..I do not want to comment..History HAS be written in their decision?!
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Yerka1[/QUOTE]
If O J Simpson became a thug it’s because you and I, and countless others made him that way :mad:
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I am so glad you are taking some responsibility for creating this monster.If it was not for enabling..groupie mentality..Orenthal would never have taken advantage if so many people..he bullies, he bluffs, he writes about his personal experience of murdering his wife and Ron Goldman and sought $$$$$ and more notoriety. He is truly a parasite!! and sucks the life out of those who enable him!!

The only reason OJ has gotten away with so much is because of #1 MONEY..#2 LEGAL COUNCIL #3 ABLITY TO USE people and the system #4 SILLY GROUPIES who seem to believe his BS!!

LMShammer

P.S. OJ should get some justice served here..but? HIS JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED way past our lowly position here on earth!!

[callmetree]

I sat through the trial as well and posted on this very same message board (although back then it was court tv) and the verbal abuse I took in defending O J Simpson was unpalatable. but in the end I was proven correct and O J Simpson was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

Looks like the jury consultant for the defense Jo-ellan Dimitrius, was correct in her assessment regarding the makeup of the jury and their response to any unnecessary O J bashing by the prosecution.


Yerka1

it looks as though u are still getting some verbal abuse for defending him:lol:

[callmetree]

I sat through the trial as well and posted on this very same message board (although back then it was court tv) and the verbal abuse I took in defending O J Simpson was unpalatable. but in the end I was proven correct and O J Simpson was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

Looks like the jury consultant for the defense Jo-ellan Dimitrius, was correct in her assessment regarding the makeup of the jury and their response to any unnecessary O J bashing by the prosecution.


Yerka1

i did forget to ask u this question... did u ever look in the faces of the family's of nicole or ron? just wonder if u have children and how u would feel had they been slaughtered as these two young people were?:shrug: imo u couldn't have watched the whole trial and really feel about this person as u say u do.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

No it wasn’t an awe struck jury :flamemad:

It was Mark Fuhrman’s refusal to shake the hand of Phil Coleman (a black man) at the marine recruiting center; it was the testimony of Mary Anne Gerchas who saw four men wearing ski masks fleeing from Nicole’s residence; It was Frank Chiuchiolo who saw two white men running from the double-murder scene, It was the Fuhrman Tapes, It was Kathleen Bell and Andrea Terry’s testimony regarding their dealing with an apparently racist mark fuhrman; it was Denise Brown and Candace Garvey’s testimony in which O J Simpson was acting strange at the dance recital (earlier in the evening prior to the killings) only to have the defense play a video showing O J Simpson laughing and in a great mood ….the examples go on and on...

It's called Reasonable doubt


Yerka1

All I can say is goodness gracious..I only hope you have never ever held any prejudgice thoughts in your life..even back ..maybe as a youngin..in your 20s ..hummmmmmmm and maybe what really counts at the end is just how you have conducted your life..not with your off the wall opinion in a given point in time..YIKS!!! You walk in those shoes.and maybe you will get it!!

I dont make judgemens on anyones thought..or beliefs..it is how they apply those thoughts that count. In a way you are equating Mark Fuhrman with the likes of Klu Klux Klan menatility..Purity of thought belongs to saints and the almighty..and unfortunately we have been exposed to MANY prejudices as children..and thankfully most of us have grown beyond..So OJ was able to CAPITALIZE..so be it..but dont mistaken stories or spins of same information as actual TRUTH..and given 12 years has passed..the damage of his not guilty verdict will forever reverberate throught decades to come..DNA was in it's infancy at that time..and today..given the factual Forensics ..there would be a much different view of the evidence..BUT ITS WATER under the bridge..but not forgotten.

The real shame is that instead of OJ seeing the "Light" with his 2nd chance..he chose to see the 'DARK" and take advantage..lie, extort, and hide behind his big buck lawyers..I have absolutely NO RESPECT for this maggot!

LMS :cuss:

BtW..Prejudice takes many forms..and to put your faith in a questionable example of virtue and preach his Sainthood rings rather hollow in my ears

[callmetree]

I didn’t miss a second of the trial (I taped the testimony while I was at work) and regularly logged on to CNN and BET to receive updates. I quickly discovered that BET was the only impartial media outlet :mad:

In regard to the Browns and Goldman’s; I lost all respect for both families when they refused to stand for the jury as they were leaving the courtroom after the verdict was read. One member of the brown family said aloud “I’m not standing for these people” and Kim Goldman said “murderer, murderer, as she was leaving the courtroom”



Yerka1

can u honestly say u would have stood up and thanked them or shown them any respect? to this day each one of those jurors have said if they had been given the info that the jurors got in the civil trial they would have found him guilty. u have your opinion and i have mine. but do you honestly think he has done all the things he has done since his aquittal because the majority of the public have turned their backs on him? i think not....but that's my own personal belief and just as you , i'm entitled to that. you have a good night.:seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Speaking as a straight african american male I find your comments slightly off target :eek:

Consider for a moment; just prior to the verdict being read CBS news conducted a National poll and 88% of african american believed O J Simpson innocent, while 88% of whites thought him guilty.

BTW: After the verdict was read my friends and I partied well into the night :beer:

Yerka1

Given your rationale for your beliefs..it seems you are way behind in the growth from 12 years ago..Yiks there is even a chance that an African American male could become President of the United States of America..I think it is time you get out of the rut of old school and maybe hang your hat on recent and applicable polls and up to date social understanding..If you cant grow and move on..one is really doomed to live in "The Past"..humm..in a way I feel very badly for you..sorry you got stuck in the past and cant see the present or future..HUMM!
LMS:punch:

Not much sense in discussion with someone who cant see the forest for the tree in front of his face..It's a big world out there...so much to enjoy and by the way ethnic-wise..there are far more cultures living together in a society than African American and Caucasians..It called a "Multicultural Society"..Hello

[Alibar]

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[callmetree]

Speaking as a straight african american male I find your comments slightly off target :eek:

Consider for a moment; just prior to the verdict being read CBS news conducted a National poll and 88% of african american believed O J Simpson innocent, while 88% of whites thought him guilty.

BTW: After the verdict was read my friends and I partied well into the night :beer:

Yerka1

:shrug: i fail to see what there was to party about. the man got found not guilty? i ask u again... do u have children? there were still two people dead. i see nothing to party over.

[callmetree]

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i totally agree with you. i honestly get angry with myself for repliying to this yerka poster. :shrug:

[Alibar]

i totally agree with you. i honestly get angry with myself for repliying to this yerka poster. :shrug:

When a person's mindset is frozen in time, even if the perp looks that person straight-on and assures that he is guilty... said person would explain to him he is wrong.

I cannot comprehend being on the side of a heinous murderer because he is of my race, which is Caucasian. If a killer is Caucasian, he is a killer and his race is of no consequence. Ever. If a Caucasian murders anyone of any other race, he/she is still a murdering killer. He is cut no slack, in any way because of his race.

[Cait48]

O.J. is BECOMING a thug?!

he has been a thug all his life.

and i have no race cards to pull.

he is a sociopath, has no conscience or any sense
of guilt or remorse EVER, about any of his actions.

he truly believes he is above the law. :no:

Cait

[callmetree]

When a person's mindset is frozen in time, even if the perp looks that person straight-on and assures that he is guilty... said person would explain to him he is wrong.

I cannot comprehend being on the side of a heinous murderer because he is of my race, which is Caucasian. If a killer is Caucasian, he is a killer and his race is of no consequence. Ever. If a Caucasian murders anyone of any other race, he/she is still a murdering killer. He is cut no slack, in any way because of his race.

you are so right ! it makes no difference if one is purple, red, black or white. if they have done something wrong they should be punished. i have never thought of this case in terms of race. this man's attorney turned it into a race thing. his game worked , only to cause more heartbreak for the ones left to grieve. IMO, he did this man no favor. he has only gone on to continue his evil ways and hurt others. i often wonder about nicole's two chidren and how they are. chidren have a tough time in this world such as it has become. but to grow into adulthood always wondering if the man that fathered them actually killed their mother..... all they have witnessed since that time is to watch this man continue to go the wrong way. let's just hope they are happy and well adjusted. it's too bad they have to go through another trying time over this man.:(

[Celebration]

O.J. is BECOMING a thug?!

he has been a thug all his life.

and i have no race cards to pull.

he is a sociopath, has no conscience or any sense
of guilt or remorse EVER, about any of his actions.

he truly believes he is above the law. :no:

Cait


And yet, wherever he goes folks like you and me rush up to him and beg for his autograph.

What's the matter with US ????

[Celebration]

huh? You have asked that murderer for an autograph?

I would spit on him.

jmo

barf

Of course I HAVE NOT and WOULD NOT.

What kind of accusation is that?

But many do.

[AnnInOhio]

You’re forgetting that O J Simpson is a former Heisman trophy award winner, a star running back, a top notch movie actor, and a hero to the black community, before his recent run of bad luck which began shortly after he was falsely accused of murder by the LAPD and the LA county prosecutors office :flamemad:


Yerka1

I respect your position and your posts. I don't know that I agree that OJ was "falsely accused of murder" because there was so much evidence pointing to him. I agree with the verdict in the first case but also agree with the verdict in the second. The first case was the prosecution's to win or lose and they lost it by not playing it straight from the beginning. LAPD lost credibility with me in that case - a white woman. OJ wasn't a suspect when Furhman went over the wall at Rockingham...yeah, right. I made up my mind that nothing that was found or learned at Rockingham should have been allowed in that case as evidence because LAPD lied through their teeth to get that search warrant. If the prosecution is going to prove somebody guilty, they need to do it withing the rules of our laws. While I can understand how the first jury arrived at their decision I also think the second jury got it right based on the evidence they were given under civil rules of law. The only way the murder affects the current trial is if it matters whether the items being taken were or were not OJ's. Clearly most of the items at one time belonged to OJ, but the finanicial ramifications of the second trial - statements sworn to under oath as a result of the second jury award regarding what OJ did and did not own - may come into play. If he goes down for this, I hope the decision is reached based on the merits of this case alone. I have a lot of faith in this judge that she will do everything in her power to be sure that happens.

[deep*fear]

That's one shady character I can't wait to see go to jail. Would he be in general population? I would like that as well.

:rose: Nicole and Ron and their families

[Alibar]

Poor, poor OJ. He whines and cries about being the one abused even as he beats the **** out of his wife and, most recently, his girlfriend. He was a woman beater long before the trial. Party on, animals. If that is what turns you on. barf


If he does go to prison, he will probably enjoy the adulation he'll receive from other prisoners. I think the other murderers will look up to him and other hardened criminals will also. He will almost have an instant gang of admirers crowding around wanting to run errands for him.

[deep*fear]

If he does go to prison, he will probably enjoy the adulation he'll receive from other prisoners. I think the other murderers will look up to him and other hardened criminals will also. He will almost have an instant gang of admirers crowding around wanting to run errands for him.

I hope they resent him. They didn't get a pass, why should he have?

[Adalena935]

Oj simpson has become a thug!!!!! What i think is real weird is how 3 or so years after he was accquited of the murder i saw him on cnn getting busted by the fbi for a breif case full of the illegal drug exctasy.street value of those pills is 15-20 dollars a pill!!!! What ever happened to that case??? Obviously a faulty search warrant but i've never seen a case so quietly swept away!!!!!!!!i mean there was a breif case full of exctasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At his house. What did he do threaten to sue the feds for interupting his party.
Murder!road rage!drugs!now robbery! That's a thug folks.

Apparently that's all he's ever been outside of being able to run with a football and some coach giving him a break. When Nicole and Ron were murdered I was thinking how unusual it is for someone in their mid 40's to suddenly do such a horrible crime. Then we learned he had been a thief as a teenager.

After the murder trial I predicted he'd be in trouble again so this doesn't surprise me. I'm just glad he didn't kill anybody again. The recipe for disaster existed in that hotel room for sure. eek. He's a dangerous man and should be put away for this crime. I hope the jury does well.

[lmercer]

:lol:PERFECTOj simpson has become a thug!!!!! What i think is real weird is how 3 or so years after he was accquited of the murder i saw him on cnn getting busted by the fbi for a breif case full of the illegal drug exctasy.street value of those pills is 15-20 dollars a pill!!!! What ever happened to that case??? Obviously a faulty search warrant but i've never seen a case so quietly swept away!!!!!!!!i mean there was a breif case full of exctasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At his house. What did he do threaten to sue the feds for interupting his party.
Murder!road rage!drugs!now robbery! That's a thug folks.

[lmercer]

Can you truly blame O J Simpson for acting the way he has?

Wherever he goes he’s treated like a pariah, an outcast, someone to be feared, even though he was acquitted by a jury of his peers. that same jury who was sequestered for 266 days and sat there patiently in the courtroom for 8 months of testimony, and yet, who decided after a mere 3 ½ hours that O J Simpson was completely innocent.

If O J Simpson became a thug it’s because you and I, and countless others made him that way :mad:

Yerka1

Are you for real? When you are aquitted it does not mean you are innocent, that is why they DONT say that, it means the case was not proven beyond reasonable doubt to the jury.I know there will always be people who want to marry him and be with him,and think of him as a hero, that is sad.

[dmcgrath]

This case should have never gotten this far; however, since it has I believe OJ has a very good chance of being acquitted after listening to Yale Galanter's opening statement. It was powerful! It put a whole new spin on what "really" happened. OJ was not after sports memorabilia that was supposedly the Goldman's BUT after his own property that had been stolen from his house years ago. I don't blame OJ. It was his and he deserved to get it back. He has an excellent lawyer and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for OJ. D.McGrath

[Fallen Angel]

This case should have never gotten this far; however, since it has I believe OJ has a very good chance of being acquitted after listening to Yale Galanter's opening statement. It was powerful! It put a whole new spin on what "really" happened. OJ was not after sports memorabilia that was supposedly the Goldman's BUT after his own property that had been stolen from his house years ago. I don't blame OJ. It was his and he deserved to get it back. He has an excellent lawyer and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for OJ. D.McGrath

cool beans............so let me get this straight. you feel like if someone has your stuff you can go into their house or hotel room with a gun to get it back?

the other 99.99999999% of America can't do that :lol:

The stuff was NOT stolen from his HOUSE. it was in a storage unit that he didn't pay for. Opening statements they can LIE.

[Shells2]

In my opinion OJ Simpson thinks he is above the law. Regardless of his guilt or innocence in the Simpson/Goldman murders - this man believes he is well within his rights to bust into someones room and threaten their lives because things don't go his way.

I just hope he is held accountable this time for his despicable actions.

[impartial]

While I am not "on OJ's side" I don't see him getting acquitted here. They will convict him for the murders and that is what he is being tried for here. Otherwise, this DA would have stopped this circus long ago.

I can just hear Chris Owens saying, "LA didn't get him but I will"...


He is not being tried for murder here, and hopefully the jury will do their job this time ... render a verdict on the evidence.

OJ murdered Nicole and Ron IMO ... but, I think this whole thing may have been a set-up ... I hope not, because if it was, it will come out.

I missed opening statements .. are they finished? How did they go?

TIA

IMO

[Mizzchiff]

No it wasn’t an awe struck jury :flamemad:

It was Mark Fuhrman’s refusal to shake the hand of Phil Coleman (a black man) at the marine recruiting center; it was the testimony of Mary Anne Gerchas who saw four men wearing ski masks fleeing from Nicole’s residence; It was Frank Chiuchiolo who saw two white men running from the double-murder scene, It was the Fuhrman Tapes, It was Kathleen Bell and Andrea Terry’s testimony regarding their dealing with an apparently racist mark fuhrman; it was Denise Brown and Candace Garvey’s testimony in which O J Simpson was acting strange at the dance recital (earlier in the evening prior to the killings) only to have the defense play a video showing O J Simpson laughing and in a great mood ….the examples go on and on...

It's called Reasonable doubt


Yerka1

There was nothing reasonable about it, imo

[Mizzchiff]

I didn’t miss a second of the trial (I taped the testimony while I was at work) and regularly logged on to CNN and BET to receive updates. I quickly discovered that BET was the only impartial media outlet :mad:

In regard to the Browns and Goldman’s; I lost all respect for both families when they refused to stand for the jury as they were leaving the courtroom after the verdict was read. One member of the brown family said aloud “I’m not standing for these people” and Kim Goldman said “murderer, murderer, as she was leaving the courtroom”



Yerka1

I wouldn't have stood for them either. I don't respect that jury.

[vonna]

Well, whatever happens this time it’s out of our hands; but I can still fe el proud to have supported O J Simpson during his greatest time of need :patriot:

And as for Jury Nullification, I believe their decision was more along the line of Group Think, at some point they simply decided "is this all the prosecution has" :mad:

Yerka1

It's preposterous to say OJ was tried by a jury of his peers - he was tried by fellow black people which is not the same thing. I hope he gets what's coming to him this time.

[lmercer]

No it wasn’t an awe struck jury :flamemad:

It was Mark Fuhrman’s refusal to shake the hand of Phil Coleman (a black man) at the marine recruiting center; it was the testimony of Mary Anne Gerchas who saw four men wearing ski masks fleeing from Nicole’s residence; It was Frank Chiuchiolo who saw two white men running from the double-murder scene, It was the Fuhrman Tapes, It was Kathleen Bell and Andrea Terry’s testimony regarding their dealing with an apparently racist mark fuhrman; it was Denise Brown and Candace Garvey’s testimony in which O J Simpson was acting strange at the dance recital (earlier in the evening prior to the killings) only to have the defense play a video showing O J Simpson laughing and in a great mood ….the examples go on and on...

It's called Reasonable doubt


Yerka1


Yes dear but that does not mean INNOCENT.

[Cornblossom]

I hope you don't have anyone's "stuff" in your house because if you do and they want it back.........

[lmercer]

If O J Simpson became a thug it’s because you and I, and countless others made him that way :mad:
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I am so glad you are taking some responsibility for creating this monster.If it was not for enabling..groupie mentality..Orenthal would never have taken advantage if so many people..he bullies, he bluffs, he writes about his personal experience of murdering his wife and Ron Goldman and sought $$$$$ and more notoriety. He is truly a parasite!! and sucks the life out of those who enable him!!

The only reason OJ has gotten away with so much is because of #1 MONEY..#2 LEGAL COUNCIL #3 ABLITY TO USE people and the system #4 SILLY GROUPIES who seem to believe his BS!!

LMShammer

P.S. OJ should get some justice served here..but? HIS JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED way past our lowly position here on earth!!

Bravo to you! Most excellent post. Says it all.

jmo

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PERFECT

[vonna]

Bravo to you! Most excellent post. Says it all.

jmo

:beer:

PERFECT[/QUOTE]

I'm not concerned with his punishment beyond the grave. I live in the here and now - and he should be in prison.

[Softail]

The way Marta is dressed she looks like a character on the 60's series Star trek..

[sailordog]

Let's not forget, before OJ even became a murderer - he was a wife beater. He fell from grace long before he brutally murdered Nicole and Ron. He had every avene open to him and he could have become a great man, he chose not to.

[vonna]

i totally agree with you. i honestly get angry with myself for repliying to this yerka poster. :shrug:

There is the ignore feature. People like this will go away if they receive no response to their rantings.

[Philly]

If he does go to prison, he will probably enjoy the adulation he'll receive from other prisoners. I think the other murderers will look up to him and other hardened criminals will also. He will almost have an instant gang of admirers crowding around wanting to run errands for him.


That's fine with me if he spends the rest of his life with ruthless criminals(like himself) behind bars. They can do all the errands they want for him. He will still hear the bars clang and the doors close and know that he can't go out and continue to put himself above the law.

[pebblepup]

This case should have never gotten this far; however, since it has I believe OJ has a very good chance of being acquitted after listening to Yale Galanter's opening statement. It was powerful! It put a whole new spin on what "really" happened. OJ was not after sports memorabilia that was supposedly the Goldman's BUT after his own property that had been stolen from his house years ago. I don't blame OJ. It was his and he deserved to get it back. He has an excellent lawyer and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for OJ. D.McGrath

LOLOLOLOL! "spin" is right........

[Lqqkout]

It appears you're endorsing criminal conduct. If OJ had a right to missing belongings, he should have tried to get them back legally. Jeez!

He did try....more than once.

[kellabeck]

:confused:
How can anyone support this arrogant sociopathic double killer?

[Lqqkout]

While I am not "on OJ's side" I don't see him getting acquitted here. They will convict him for the murders and that is what he is being tried for here. Otherwise, this DA would have stopped this circus long ago.

I can just hear Chris Owens saying, "LA didn't get him but I will"...

ITA !!!!! What we will see is a professional miscarriage of justice! This trial is the only way for people to get OJ because they do not believe in the justice system which found him NG. How sad to watch this in action.
And this witness is an obnoxious con who is looking to be rich and famous.

[Lqqkout]

:confused:
How can anyone support this arrogant sociopathic double killer?

FYI..Oj was found NOT GUILTY.

[Details]

FYI..Oj was found NOT GUILTY.And he was found responsible.

In fact, that verdict lead right to this case.

[Lqqkout]

Figures, you don't even know what this case is about. Get a clue, which I think in your case will take you about 100 yrs. We'll send O.J. to your house next.

jmo

:lol:

Can you post anything intelligent? Or are you just a mean person naturally?

[DebinNv]

FYI..Oj was found NOT GUILTY.

Many people are found guilty by juries. A select few are later exonerated.
The opposite also happens. People are found not guilty when they really are.
JMO

[ALL RISE]

Now that we've seen the stuff - no family photos or anthing like that. We know we're not talking about anything that wouldn't generally get sold at sports shows... by OJ or anyone else. Next question: is this the stuff he had a friend remove from the house so the Goldman's representative could not have it - AND is this the same stuff he didn't pay the storage on - so it got sold at auction and then legally belonged to someone else?
BUt let me give it to you - lets say the stuff is really his and just terribly important to him; does he then get to go steal it back at gunpoint? You or I would not get to do that - how come OJ gets to do it by your opinion?

I found it curious, as stated by Yale G. in his opening, that OJ went to the police twice about getting his stuff back, and they said they couldn't and wouldn't help. So whats a person to do? You and me wouldn't go in with a bunch of yelling people...but thats what he did. So far, we've heard that OJ didn't know there was a gun...the tape described him as saying bring 'heat'. So that could mean any variety of terms; gun, police, etc.

Trial outcome will say why OJ got to do it and how much he will have to pay with time spent in a LV prison or walk away again waiting for that gottcha moment when once again he will be in trouble with LE.

[AnnInOhio]

I found it curious, as stated by Yale G. in his opening, that OJ went to the police twice about getting his stuff back, and they said they couldn't and wouldn't help. So whats a person to do? You and me wouldn't go in with a bunch of yelling people...but thats what he did. So far, we've heard that OJ didn't know there was a gun...the tape described him as saying bring 'heat'. So that could mean any variety of terms; gun, police, etc.

Trial outcome will say why OJ got to do it and how much he will have to pay with time spent in a LV prison or walk away again waiting for that gottcha moment when once again he will be in trouble with LE.

I'm not sure, but I think Yale may have mis-spoke (and remember, what Yale says isn't evidence!) I believe it was Riccio who went to the FBI asking about OJ getting his stuff back. I've not seen anything about OJ personally attempting to get his stuff back through any legal means. If you've got a link, please provide it.

[dmcgrath]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath

[AnnInOhio]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath


Um, why post - especially make a new thread - if not to try and defend your position?? What's your point and what does it matter what you - or anybody else for that matter - think about OJ?

[Mrs.Brea]

You’re forgetting that O J Simpson is a former Heisman trophy award winner, a star running back, a top notch movie actor, and a hero to the black community, before his recent run of bad luck which began shortly after he was falsely accused of murder by the LAPD and the LA county prosecutors office :flamemad:


Yerka1

I'm not one to shoot down peoples opinions as your entitled to it (as am I) but are you kidding me? Bad Luck? You attribute his thuggish, vile behavior and problems with the law to bad luck? That's pretty delusional. One of the biggest problem with OJ is his his inability to take responsibility for his own actions. The last thing this world needs is anyone helping him with that.

[Lqqkout]

I definitely feel the judge is severely limiting the defense. She remembers everything, but he is talking to the JURY.

[Lqqkout]

Everyone should be on the side of "innocent until proven guilty" with NO bias from previous cases !!!

[Mrs.Brea]

If you think that post was delusional, read the others. Did you know we are responsible for O.J.s behavior as well? Who knew?

Psst, some shouldn't have access to the net for they'd never speak this way in public.

Back on topic: O.J. is mumbling to himself again. Is he acting?

imo

:seeya:

Unfortunately, I have been and I feel a migraine creeping up so I stopped.

He is a "top notch" actor after all, right?

:seeya:

[callmetree]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath

:lol:IMO ...WE ALL PICK LOSERS FROM TIME TO TIME!!

[Lqqkout]

LQQ, you miss the point. Everyone is entiled to their opinion. They are not entiled to start baiting threads and run away to switch nics. Get it? Read the TOS if you need more help.

Oh by the way, this isn't the court room. I can state O.J. is a murderer who got off, but thankfully found responsilbe. I can state he's is a thief and I can state he's a giant POG who doens't deserve to walk the face of this earth. HE IS GUILTY AS THE DAY IS LONG!

imo
I have no idea what you are talking about. Baiting and running away to switch nics? Who is doing that? I have had the same nic and the ONLY nic for a year. I agree everyone has the right to their own opinion, but to already have decided his guilt before even hearing the trial is what is wrong. You are innocent until proven guilty and these guys who puked for a deal and this man who is out for riches show how low the prosecution will stoop to make a name for themselves. Very sad to watch this corruption in the legal system in action.

[ALL RISE]

Oj simpson has become a thug!!!!! What i think is real weird is how 3 or so years after he was accquited of the murder i saw him on cnn getting busted by the fbi for a breif case full of the illegal drug exctasy.street value of those pills is 15-20 dollars a pill!!!! What ever happened to that case??? Obviously a faulty search warrant but i've never seen a case so quietly swept away!!!!!!!!i mean there was a breif case full of exctasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At his house. What did he do threaten to sue the feds for interupting his party.
Murder!road rage!drugs!now robbery! That's a thug folks.

I wish I could answer your question. I'd like to know too!!!! Please don't forget the cable television debocle LOL at his home in Fla.;)

[Teeka]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath



Me too. Everyone deserves a fair trial, regardless of what the public may perceive that transpired many years ago.

[Topher]

No it wasn’t an awe struck jury :flamemad:

It was Mark Fuhrman’s refusal to shake the hand of Phil Coleman (a black man) at the marine recruiting center; it was the testimony of Mary Anne Gerchas who saw four men wearing ski masks fleeing from Nicole’s residence; It was Frank Chiuchiolo who saw two white men running from the double-murder scene, It was the Fuhrman Tapes, It was Kathleen Bell and Andrea Terry’s testimony regarding their dealing with an apparently racist mark fuhrman; it was Denise Brown and Candace Garvey’s testimony in which O J Simpson was acting strange at the dance recital (earlier in the evening prior to the killings) only to have the defense play a video showing O J Simpson laughing and in a great mood ….the examples go on and on...

It's called Reasonable doubt


Yerka1
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As stated previously by one of the posters, Not Guilty by a Reasonable Doubt does not mean innocent!!! It was also stated previously, that the trail was thrown purposely to avoid more riots, loss of life and property, at a time where CA had already had its share of racial riots. That in the end, inept Clarkson and Darden were chosen to prosecute "the crime of the century," should have been a clue. The venue was moved to an area pro-Simpson jury pool, just drooling for jury nullification against all injustices against their race. Crucial evidence of guilt was not allowed because the papers for its admission was were filed too late. (e.g. the empty Swiss knife box in Simpson's bathroom) Remember Simpson's return to CA, when he handed Kardashian a clothing style bag, WHICH WAS NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN. Then Kardashian immediately reactivates his law license, becoming part of the Simpson legal defense team, doing absolutely nothing throughout the trial, but remaining silent, because there was now client attorney privilege. As for "If the glove does not fit, You must acquit," Simpson was told to stop taking his arthritis medication which then caused his hands to swell. Then there was the I DROPPED A GLASS, excuse for all of the cuts on his hands. Also, back then people knew less about domestic abuse leading to murder. I watched Court TV gavel to gavel, and saw all the evidence which was not admitted. He was a domineering, coke abusing, over-testosteroned murderer. I was appalled at how many people called me racist because I believed and still believe he is a double murderer, thug and liar. He claimed that he could not wait to get home to his children. Then as soon as the acquittal came, he went on an extended golfing vacation with a bimbo, leaving his children at home. He also said he would spend the rest of his life searching for Nicole's killer. There is no evidence that he kept that promise. He then moved to Florida, where the Homestead Act, was beneficial to him, when it came to the Goldman's judgement against him. Since then he has been involved with squirmishes with the law, this last one being the most serious. Not to mention hiding assets to avoid paying the Judgement to the Goldman's. He sure as heck hid that huge advance for "If I Did It" real fast. Did anyone see the HBO special right after the murder trial, where one of the jurors who seemed to have the brains of a termite gave her reasons for finding Simpson "Not Guilty?" It was as sickening as "If I Did It."

Topher

[ALL RISE]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath

but you have every right to post your opinion. I sadly agree with you. And it upset me yesterday when Judy Jackie interrupted and it upset me even more today when Judge Jackie interrupted again and again and again. She is definitely prejuiced against the defense in my estimation.

Bottom line here...first have to sort out who the property legally belonged to and who it was stolen from and IF it was indeed Fred Goldman's>

And that too bothered me that the 'F' word came in (Fred Goldman) because this trial isn't suppose to be a trial within a trial. It is suppose to be about the charges as read yesterday by the clerk.

I smell appeal already plastered all over what testimony there has been?!:rolleyes:

[ALL RISE]

I'm not sure, but I think Yale may have mis-spoke (and remember, what Yale says isn't evidence!) I believe it was Riccio who went to the FBI asking about OJ getting his stuff back. I've not seen anything about OJ personally attempting to get his stuff back through any legal means. If you've got a link, please provide it.
Sorry I cannot provide a link but if you have availability to the opening transcript, that's where it would be found.....
Wish I could help.:seeya:

[lmercer]

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As stated previously by one of the posters, Not Guilty by a Reasonable Doubt does not mean innocent!!! It was also stated previously, that the trail was thrown purposely to avoid more riots, loss of life and property, at a time where CA had already had its share of racial riots. That in the end, inept Clarkson and Darden were chosen to prosecute "the crime of the century," should have been a clue. The venue was moved to an area pro-Simpson jury pool, just drooling for jury nullification against all injustices against their race. Crucial evidence of guilt was not allowed because the papers for its admission was were filed too late. (e.g. the empty Swiss knife box in Simpson's bathroom) Remember Simpson's return to CA, when he handed Kardashian a clothing style bag, WHICH WAS NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN. Then Kardashian immediately reactivates his law license, becoming part of the Simpson legal defense team, doing absolutely nothing throughout the trial, but remaining silent, because there was now client attorney privilege. As for "If the glove does not fit, You must acquit," Simpson was told to stop taking his arthritis medication which then caused his hands to swell. Then there was the I DROPPED A GLASS, excuse for all of the cuts on his hands. Also, back then people knew less about domestic abuse leading to murder. I watched Court TV gavel to gavel, and saw all the evidence which was not admitted. He was a domineering, coke abusing, over-testosteroned murderer. I was appalled at how many people called me racist because I believed and still believe he is a double murderer, thug and liar. He claimed that he could not wait to get home to his children. Then as soon as the acquittal came, he went on an extended golfing vacation with a bimbo, leaving his children at home. He also said he would spend the rest of his life searching for Nicole's killer. There is no evidence that he kept that promise. He then moved to Florida, where the Homestead Act, was beneficial to him, when it came to the Goldman's judgement against him. Since then he has been involved with squirmishes with the law, this last one being the most serious. Not to mention hiding assets to avoid paying the Judgement to the Goldman's. He sure as heck hid that huge advance for "If I Did It" real fast. Did anyone see the HBO special right after the murder trial, where one of the jurors who seemed to have the brains of a termite gave her reasons for finding Simpson "Not Guilty?" It was as sickening as "If I Did It."

Topher

I agree, I too watched gavel to gavel, I USED to like OJ before these awful murders, do you all remember, the one crucial piece of evidence that inept ITO would not allow was the carpet fiber of his car was a rare carpet and only a few had it, one being HIS and it was like found on goldman or something.

[Topher]

I agree, I too watched gavel to gavel, I USED to like OJ before these awful murders, do you all remember, the one crucial piece of evidence that inept ITO would not allow was the carpet fiber of his car was a rare carpet and only a few had it, one being HIS and it was like found on goldman or something.
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Yes, I was really ticked off that the customized Bronco carpet fiber was not allowed into evidence. But, again, I do not think that it would have mattered. The DNA evidence was totally ignored by the jury. Isn't it amazing that the "ugly ***" shoe photo claimed to be a fake by Simpson and his defense team, was followed by a pethora of photos showing him wearing the same style "ugly ***" shoes at different events, and proven not to be fakes, AFTER the verdict!!! That trial, in that venue, with those prosecutors, that Judge, and THAT JURY could not have had any other verdict. I remember watching the white Bronco chase live, and seeing the many people along the route screaming "Go Juice!!!" Sic transit gloria mundi... AGAIN, TO ALL OF THOSE WHO SAY THAT SIMPSON WAS FOUND INNOCENT: The Jury found that he was Not Guilty by a Reasonable doubt, which are two completely different things. I believe that in Great Britain the legal term is Not Proven, which does NOT MEAN INNOCENT OF THE CRIME. As we saw in Phil Sector 1, verdicts and mistrials are not always based on the facts of the case, as presented in the court room, as the Judge instructs that they should be. In a perfect world, no jurors would lie during voire dire. Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world. It is very possible that there are people on this jury who believe that Simpson has been punished enough, who also do not understand the difference between public and private personas, and would possibly never convict him of any of the serious counts...

Topher

[lmercer]

EXACTLY, they were trying to get even, which was so wrong

[callmetree]

I read all of your responses to my original message re: being on OJ's side. I am not going to try and defend my position because I have a right to my opinion just as you seem to think you do. Let me just say, GO Yale Galanter!!! And, I'M STILL ON OJ's SIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE!!! D. McGrath

:punch: i think u are going to be very lonely. and your rights are the same as all of ours. hope u get a goods nite sleep.:seeya:

[lmercer]

Please, don't you mean African Americans who bring on their own persecution? It is always someone else's fault isn't it.

[Topher]

Faced with a majority black jury; johnny cochran’s poignant plea to send a message to the LAPD was brilliant and moving :beer:


Yerka1
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Cochran's playing that [sic] "poignant" race card plea to an all black jury to send a message to the LAPD was an abominable defense tactic. Asking for, and getting, a jury nullification verdict for a client on trial for a heinous double murder is repugnant, and denigrates the American judicial system. Cochran's strategy only succeeded because of the change of venue. A juror from the original venue would never have made a post-verdict obtuse remark like "Domestic abuse does not lead to murder." Sic transit gloria mundi...

Topher

[lmercer]

exactly, always the white mans fault

[geragoes]

I wish to personally apologize to Mr. Montana for the trashing of his reputation in this trial.

Compared to the Juice, he is like good vs: evil.

At the hotel when the alleged thugs were stuffing the items into pillow cases they couldn't resist the signed Joe Montana Lithos ( with a Montana hologram).

Why not just take OJs stuff?

Well GREED for one.

The Montana Lithos, signed, sell easily for $75.00
There were hundreds of them. Can you say cha-ching ???
Riccio said the stuff was 'Junk'.....sorry JOE

The Prosecution is obviously saving its' coup de grace for the end of their presentation or even rebuttal.

Gallant Gallanter will show that the gunmen changed their stories after being offered a plea. Well yeah...while facing life in prison sometimes the truth does shine through.

Try walking into WAMU on monday and pulling out a gun. Take all the money in your account and about $20,000 extra. Tell the bank guard that you will return the money thats' not yours. SEE HOW THAT FLYS??

:hat:

[AnnInOhio]

What flys is the fact the criminals who set this encounter up and the crooks who meant to take or accidently did rake property not O.J.'s into the pillow case, seem to be the ones skating away without repercussion. This case absolutely sucks and it wouldn't take me 40 minutes to put an end to it if I were juror. Just another attempt to Monday Morning Quarterback on the situation. I do not feel sorry for any of the jerks involved.

As far as the value of Joe Montana's property goes, it took all this time to figure out how valuable it is? I could have told anyone that a long time ago. He's my hero and always will be. His memorabilia is invaluable. To hear the criminal Riccio explain it, the property was worthless?! Talk about saving your own backside.

Everyone knows OJ is a hothead and when told his property was there would naturally go to retrieve stolen property that the cops didn't care was stolen. I GIVE UP! What DO the police do? What ARE they responsible for? I'd like to see them become a lot more Proactive and a little less Reactive, unless of course, they were in on the gig.

Unless someone told OJ (I have a gun) and OJ didn't tell them NOT to take it in that room (who really knows for sure since the set up included video footage of the incident). At NO TIME did it show OJS with a weapon. Just his usual big screaming mouth.

Steal my property and see where my mouth goes. :chicken:

Many people say this crime is only being prosecuted because of OJ. I ask you, would any of those men have been in that room if not for OJ Simpson? Do you not believe that OJ had his family and friends remove items from his trophy room just prior to the seizure at Rockingham? You seem upset at law enforcement's lack of interest in whether or not the property was stolen from OJ. I liken it to when a couple divorces and one party hides assets from the other spouse. That's not criminal, it's civil. The matter of OJ's missing memorabilia is a civil matter, not a criminal one because I don't believe OJ ever reported it stolen. And I don't believe the family pictures fall into the same category as the memorabilia. They left Simpson's family under different circumstances; probably legally purchased by a 3rd party. Let your spouse "steal" money from your joint account and secret it into another bank in their own name - no cops gonna charge them with theft. It'll be a civil matter wherever your mouth goes. Go rob that bank in order to take it back and THAT will be a criminal matter.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

You’re right of course this thread is regarding O J Simpson’s character which seems to have taken quite a hit since June of 1994.

All I can say to his character is back in 95’ the jury gave him a second chance at life in the hope of redemption, and he wasn’t as opportunist with that second chance as they’d hoped :(

Yerka1

I am abit confused by your post..who is the "THEY" referring to opportunist they had hoped???.On the contrary he took all the oportunities aforde to him from the giddy up..including post Civil Suit..OJ would never have known by moving to Floriday thus the "Homestead Law' unless advised...hummmm OJ would not have been able to hid his assets without 3rd party assistance..hummm ..OJ would not have received untracable money without assistance and advice..OJ would not have been able to receive fund without trace without assistance..OJ weuld not have been able to duck and get away with many other low level crimes without assistance...If it was not for his money..his legal bufer and his 3rd party enablers..OJ wuld not be getting away woth anything..

OJ has advise..(He's not that smart) he has his stooges..he has his enablers..he has his groupies..and he gives 2 hoots about none of them..except his lawyers..who he hopes can bail him out once again!!

Race Card will not get it in this day and age..Star Power has got him where he is today..along with those groupies who will sell their soul to gain favor!
LMS:punch:

[mbmb]

Pia,

You are so right in your post. What we all have to remember: is what goes around comes around. And, so now Karma may get her due. And, she always get's her dues....

[Lyndawitha"Y]

If the race card is so unimportant these days, then why did the prosecution expend all of his challenges to expel the remaining black jurors with the exception of a few alternates? :eek:

you couldn't possibly be more wrong :flamemad:


Yerka1

All I will say to that claim by you is HUMMMMM??hammer

Off the chart wrong ..I guess you will have to take that to the Supreme Court with your argument..Times have changed..at least from my perspective..Black/White/Asian/Caucasian/Latino..not a difference..Right wrong..Good Evil yes..and they do not hold any color/race/creed definitions!!

LMS

[Details]

Sad but true - thugs hang out with thugs, so when you go to try them, your top witnesses will be thugs. But, recordings are not contaminated with dirt based on who is using the tape recorder.

[Details]

Because tape recorders are not sentient, nor able to create new words.

You really believe that a tape recorder records different words when held by a criminal versus a law abiding citizen?

[Details]

We've heard those tapes. Who said what is sometimes open to interpretation, some words are not as clear as they could be - but there are hours of tapes - not little incriminating snippets, and the topic is entirely clear.

Riccio has said he didn't know the people, other than OJ and himself, enough to identify their voices on the recorder. But he did know when he or OJ was talking. And he did say that the errors in the transcriptions were little stuff that did not alter the meaning of the conversation.

[riohouse]

I think there is something sexy about his honesty.:rose:

Riohouse

[Wok Inn]

I think there is something sexy about his honesty.:rose:

Riohouse

Really? :eek:

[riohouse]

Snowbird,

you are so right~!!:beer:

Riohouse

[NJ_Follower]

Sexy? The thought of Riccio's mouth/teeth anywhere near me makes me nauseous on the spot.

[callmetree]

Yup. and his sense of humor. I loved him giving li'l Ms "Black and White" a hard time on Best Defense... in a lighthearted manner.
He told her that he's betting against whatever she says the outcome will be . I would do so too. I wonder what the odds are in Vegas. I want a piece of that action.

i also enjoyed this interview. i often wonder why they even have her on the show other than to get people riled up.hammer

[Charms]

This case is a farce and a waste of taxpayer dollars. A bunch of shady characters with criminal records are supposed to be the state's key to the case? OJ definitely ain't no angel, but he definitely has been overcharged.

What was that paraphrase... If the boys in CA can't get it right, we can.
:no:

[Details]

A bunch of shady characters because that's who OJ chooses to associate with, and their testimony is entirely backed up by unbiased tape and video recordings, as well as the testimony of the victims.

Nor is it an overcharge - OJ was charged the same as all of the rest of them - and this is normal charging in any prosecutor's office. They charge what fits, and the jury decides what you get convicted of.

[Grayson]

I have to say that in my opinion OJ is a classic case study of a criminal. Once he gets aquited legally of a crime, although the facts are pretty much all in place to conclude he did commit a crime, he continues to commit more crimes. it's jsut a classic case. And also he is a sociopath.

[frances1]

I haven't been following this trial, because, frankly, O J Simpson simply bores me. He's not worth thinking about. My question is why the posters on here keep letting this Yerka character pull your chains? Put him/her on ignore. So much more peaceful that way.

[callmetree]

OJ's handicapped because he's a dyslexic? Ha! Big deal! He should have it as bad as I do. I'm an insomniac, athiestic, dyslexic. So every night I have to lay awake, wondering if there really is a Dog!

More seriously, he certainly is a criminal. Now, he's got 13 felonies. Is there another definition?

i'm handicapped also. LOL getting old. but certainly not stupid. no excuses fot him MOO:biggrin:

[fbgweezer]

OJ's handicapped because he's a dyslexic? Ha! Big deal! He should have it as bad as I do. I'm an insomniac, athiestic, dyslexic. So every night I have to lay awake, wondering if there really is a Dog!

More seriously, he certainly is a criminal. Now, he's got 13 felonies. Is there another definition?

don't forget illiterate, bad knees, and a rap sheet!

[Alibar]

don't forget illiterate, bad knees, and a rap sheet!

Hell, according to Jami Floyd, it's all because he's black. :hat:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Hell, according to Jami Floyd, it's all because he's black. :hat:

Heck, it seems to me that Jamie Flloyd ha set back the 'Equality' dream back ten steps..Her constant referance to judgement by color is so out of touch..maybe back in the 60's things have not only moved along socially, but legally as well!!

I also dont get OJ being equated to a 'Black Issue' as since his early successes in sports areana ..movies...media opportunities..he lost his roots and never ever tried to make a difference in the movement!!
Then of course, in this new Century, society is far more diverse than ever before..races, colors, creeds are far more prevalent than ever before..Even sexual orientation, acceptance of females in high powered postions has grown!!!

In short, Jamie does make me wonder just why she wallows in history..rather than look at the positive gains. She is a Black women, married to a white male..readily acceptable even common place..yet not 50 years ago, Black and White couples were termed "Salt and Pepper"..and looked at as odd..My oh my..we have come along way indeed!! Tolerance is the word of the day..yet those who whine or complain about judgements, or being held accountable claim OLD FASHION excuses or blamegame!!

Guess I wasnt so short, eh? Put on those glasses that allow you only to see actions, spirit, heart of a person..not their skin color or where they worship or what they wear...

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I have heard many labels for OJ..Never ever have I heard the heard that term connection to OJ!!! (Handicapped)

IF OJ is handicapped..then most of the world is either bedridden, or in vegetable state!! He has Arthritis..so what..he has been able to walk, play golf, feed himself, go up and down stairs, put that drink (many) to his lips, travel, party, sign his name, wave to his fans/jeerers, noooo, He is not disabled other than his mindset..now there is where he is disabled..and his heart belongs to no one but his own self and benefit!! That is indeed a handicap..but not qualifying for benefits of any insurance plan that I know of!!

LMS:eek:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I have heard many labels for OJ..Never ever have I heard the heard that term connection to OJ!!! (Handicapped)

IF OJ is handicapped..then most of the world is either bedridden, or in vegetable state!! He has Arthritis..so what..he has been able to walk, play golf, feed himself, go up and down stairs, put that drink (many) to his lips, travel, party, sign his name, wave to his fans/jeerers, noooo, He is not disabled other than his mindset..now there is where he is disabled..and his heart belongs to no one but his own self and benefit!! That is indeed a handicap..but not qualifying for benefits of any insurance plan that I know of!!

LMS:eek:

Too Late to edit this..but just want to quote Tom Scotto on an interview he did where he states how smart his buddy it..doesnt sound handicapped to me..Maybe stupid..but not handicapped!!

Quote:

SCOTTO: I know O.J. very well. He is a very intelligent person. He can't jaywalk without getting in trouble. He would never put himself in that position, ever.

Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297351,00.html

LMShammer

[Heyes]

Heck, it seems to me that Jamie Flloyd ha set back the 'Equality' dream back ten steps..Her constant referance to judgement by color is so out of touch..maybe back in the 60's things have not only moved along socially, but legally as well!!

I also dont get OJ being equated to a 'Black Issue' as since his early successes in sports areana ..movies...media opportunities..he lost his roots and never ever tried to make a difference in the movement!!
Then of course, in this new Century, society is far more diverse than ever before..races, colors, creeds are far more prevalent than ever before..Even sexual orientation, acceptance of females in high powered postions has grown!!!

In short, Jamie does make me wonder just why she wallows in history..rather than look at the positive gains. She is a Black women, married to a white male..readily acceptable even common place..yet not 50 years ago, Black and White couples were termed "Salt and Pepper"..and looked at as odd..My oh my..we have come along way indeed!! Tolerance is the word of the day..yet those who whine or complain about judgements, or being held accountable claim OLD FASHION excuses or blamegame!!

Guess I wasnt so short, eh? Put on those glasses that allow you only to see actions, spirit, heart of a person..not their skin color or where they worship or what they wear...

LMS

The "white" side of Jamies family must think they're chopped liver. She refuses to acknowledge part of her heritage. IMO!

[enlightenme]

Hahaha! Jami Floyd just said she was going to "change the minds" of the 75% of pollsters who said this trial verdict was fair. :confused:

Go for it Jami! :)

[Cornblossom]

Sigh. But it's okay for druggies to get rehab. It's okay for alkies to get rehab. Killers of babies get out of jail free or like Susan Smith, who got a slap on the wrist. So many get the breaks. Killers of husbands get breaks. The only one who doesn't get a break is OJS and he is such a dork for trying to recover his own property after he went to the police and they cared less. Too much reactive crap going on in the world and not enough proactive research. I should think Americans have a helluva lot more to worry about than OJS. You have to be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it and with good reason. :hat:to clarify..Susan Smith received life in prison for killing her babies.

[Cornblossom]

A-HA!!!!! I get it now!!!! Because OJ is dyslexic,he heard people say,"Let's put this memorabilia back into the room" and he saw them them putting the memorabilia BACK not taking it out!!!!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

It seems to me that Vegas has good reason for adherence to laws..regarding guns..robbery and gangland intimidations..It is a city who requires saftey and comfort to those visiting that city..it;s biggest income is by vacationers, gamblers, service industry..and they just cant have selective charging when a gang of thugs, guns, including a hotel's rooms, and facilities is overlooked..and swept under the rug...It would give precident and a license for others to do the same!!

It is indeed fortunate that those tapes did exist..as they cooroberated all the accusations..otherwise it would have been totally a field day to claim "one word against another" or pleading to get famous or you cant trust the messenger..Once again, Celebrity likely would have won the day for OJ!!

The moral of this story is that...tape or video encounters with those you dont trust..as it seems those that have big bucks behind them prevail..regardless of what the real truth is..Geesh..Sad but true!!

LMS :eek:

[Details]

Tapes and videos have been wonderful to help the weak against the powerful, the regular person against the celebrity. Instead of your word against theirs, more and more often we've got a true record.

I've found this interesting how many little cases this has cracked - the teacher abusing kids (yelling, picking one out for abuse, etc.), the corrupt police officer, the suspect who claims a corrupt officer beat him up, when he in fact beat himself up, etc. All these things where before it'd be your word against theirs, and now sometimes it can be something a great deal more reliable. So even when it's a lousy career criminal accusing an upstanding citizen with power and position - if there's a tape, the truth can be shown.

Just as in this case - without a tape, defense attorney tactics of sliming the victims and everyone who agrees to tell the truth, would have worked. Never mind that the thugs who agreed to testify were telling the truth, no one would have believed them. With the tape, they are not as necessary, and the truth is known.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

A major difference between California and Nevada law is in kidnapping. In Cal. you must move the victim, at least somewhere wihin the County. It doen't have to be very far, just some movement.

In Nevada, however, no movement is required. All the actor need do is prevent the person from moving while coercing, forcing and so forth. That's a much different and lower standard. Poor OJ. being dyslexic, he failed to read the statutes before he chose a locale. Durn!

It seems OJ gambled big time given the variations of law..Do I do it in Caliornia?.where Turnover Orders were served/..versus Nevada where Guns, kidnapping, Robbery have such stiff rules?...Hummmmm Guess his gamble went south!..Course he should have realized his groupies were under the table..low lives who dont wish to go down for something that didnt benefit them..I am not speaking about Cashmore,!

OJ's friends have been wheelers and dealers for so long..he never thought they would turn on him...Boy oh boy..was he mistaken!!, There IS NO HONOUR AMONG THIEVES!!!

LMS

[Details]

I do feel sorry for Cashmore. It really seems he didn't have a clue what was going to happen. He did make his mistake - he stayed silent and stayed with his buddies rather than going to police after it happened - but other than that he seems to have done nothing that anyone else wouldn't have done. He didn't run, because he was afraid he'd be shot. He also didn't threaten nor take part in the robbery other than standing there. Definitely the lightest responsibility of them all.

[Details]

Lower bunk, due to medical issues - no doubt arthritis. But he's got a solo cell, probably for life unless he asks for otherwise, is my guess. They'll do all they can to keep him safe, and they normally succeed. Although I don't think OJ will be much of a target in jail.

[nsm]

He still has some choices, though:

1. Bloods or Crips?
2. Upper Bunk or Lower Bunk?
3. Tattoos or no tattoos?

Decisions, decisions! hammer

do you think that they may let him have that picture he wanted so badly of him with J Edgar Hoover to hang in his cell?:lol:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Early on, I remember reading that Simpson's own sister (who was in L.V. for the wedding) told him she had a bad feeling about his plans to go get 'his stuff' back. Also, that there was an attorney (I think it was Singleton) who told Simpson not to do it. But he went ahead, 'got his boys together,' was his 'most menacing' self and did it, didn't he?

He knew he was in big trouble immediately because when he returned to his own hotel room, told Prody (I believe it was) something to the effect 'I fXXXXd up. I'm going to need a bail bondsman.'

It was his own ego, greed, and deep hatred of the Goldman family [who were successful in their civil suit against him] that has put him where he is today.

Normal views of what OJ planned and did..see that it was his fixaion on keeping property out of the Goldman's clutches that drove him to do what he did...So may, ironically the Goldman's pursuit of him led to his actions..and no doubt OJ in his deluded view of right and wrong will continue to blame the Goldmas for all his woes..Heaven forbid he acknowledge his actual cause for this whole mess??!! He has been delusional and this same delusion has been fed by his enablers for so long.that he couldnt see "The forest for the Trees"..Outcome of that thinking led to his demise and capture and conviction of armed robbery along with coersion/kidnapping..and as per taped convo's conspired with many to do this sting!!

OJ will have to pay for this crime..here on earth...the rest of his transgressions will be paid for later..gator..LOL

LMS:D

[Mirage]

It's called Reasonable doubt


Yerka1

No its called extraneous rubbish. Only someone lacking intelligence or racist could have fallen for it. The stuff presented by the defence was fantasy and nothing more.

[Mirage]

You hit the nail on the head with the bolded comment…. Everyone blaming the first jury when they did nothing but what the law required them to do. Put the blame for the NG verdict where it really belongs on the state for not doing their job and for the likes of Mark Furman for getting up there and lying through his teeth.
As much as I think he is guilty (and I cried at the verdict too), the fault does not belong on the jury.

As far as im aware the jury is free to use its own common sense and intelligence and does not soley have to rely on the prosecution, am I correct? If for example the defence presents something so outrageous that is not believable, they have the right to judge it, regardless of how the prosecution handle it. In that case the jury was to blame as much as the prosecution for buying in the outrageous story that the entire lapd decided to frame an innocent with murder.

The problem was the jury was so racist that they were looking for excuses to not convict and cockran gave them plenty of excuses.

[Mirage]

I don't care how many ways to blame OJS, he did not kill Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, and a jury of 12 people said so. This mickey mouse attempt to rectify the didiot crowd will not make him guilty of murder.
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Then why did every shred of evidence (a ton) point to Simpson?

[Mirage]

Do I think Mark Fuhrman is a racist? Yes I do. However, I do not think he planted evidence BECAUSE of that racism. I don’t even know that he or anyone did plant evidence but I believe it is possible that it happened. I also think if he had not lied on the stand, the jury may have believed what he said about the evidence.
(I have always wondered though how someone could get away from such a brutal crime scene as this was with only a few small spots of blood found.)
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But anything can be 'possible', the question is whether something is reasonably possible, and the idea that a large part of the lapd decided to frame an innocent man for murder is not reasonable its absurd. If Fuhrman was such a hating rascist to frame someone for murder surely he would have done so in other cases in his previous past or he would have written a ticket up on OJ when he was called to his house when Nicole got bashed one night but he didnt, he let him off, and we are supposed to believe this man then decided to frame simpson for murder a few years later? Insanity.

You also suggest they thought he was guilty but decided to frame him anyway? Who the hell frames guilty men? Why would you bother to frame a guilty man when ALL the evidence, masses of it all point to him anyway? You dont seem to understand the consequences and risk that would have entailed. Their careers, their pensions, their reputations, and their lives. They could have gotten the death penalty for framing him but apparently they did it 'just to make sure' he was convicted.