Caylee Anthony 09-12-08 afternoon thread

[nutterbutter]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo
Dang I thought I fixed the date.

[margaritaville]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo


Ditto... I only wish I could see her face!!

[bchand]

When the cop says there is no sign of her dropping off Caylee at the Sawgrass Apts according to surveillance tape, I thought this is the reason she's changed her story now to she dropped her off at Blanchard Park.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

Click on an unlit candle to start

:rose:

[firefly75]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo
Dang I thought I fixed the date.

thank you:)

[bchand]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo
Dang I thought I fixed the date.


Can you change the date nutter?

[nutterbutter]

thank you:)
so sorry I thought I had fixed the date.I write CW to see if she can fix.

[bchand]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo
Dang I thought I fixed the date.


Can you change the date nutter?


( I think you can use the advanced edit to change your title now.)

[concernedmom]

Half way thru 2nd tape and had to pause and reflect.
I dont think she was prepared for Cindy to call the cops.
She started with a lie and just keeps building on it.
Before I was looking for clues in what she says but hearing is different than reading.
I dont find any clues in there where she left Caylee. Its just building a lie on top of a lie.:(

[jakee]

When the cop says there is no sign of her dropping off Caylee at the Sawgrass Apts according to surveillance tape, I thought this is the reason she's changed her story now to she dropped her off at Blanchard Park.


That makes sense!

I just listened to the tapes, but the second one ended abruptly. I didn't hear the end of it. Anyway, I think it is weird how she admits she doesn't have a job and now in this second tape she pretends she does again. Or did I hear it all wrong? :) I was trying to read and listen at the same time. I am not good at that. :o

[bchand]

That makes sense!

I just listened to the tapes, but the second one ended abruptly. I didn't hear the end of it. Anyway, I think it is weird how she admits she doesn't have a job and now in this second tape she pretends she does again. Or did I hear it all wrong? :) I was trying to read and listen at the same time. I am not good at that. :o

I'm about 2/3 of the way through the 2nd tape and haven't heard her say anything about working to this point.

She's talking about the car running out of gas now.

[Acorn]

Nice to see the board busy today.Nice we can now hear casey roll the lies out her mouth.moo
Dang I thought I fixed the date.

Bring Friday back! :tongue:



OMG I cannot believe what comes out of that girl's mouth.
How does a person like this function without remorse, guilt or a conscience? I do know, but I just don't understand. I can't.

[concernedmom]

I wish I could have seen her face when they told her that one building was an old folks home.:biggrin:

[kOOkie1]

Does anyone have the fox link to the tapes..I think the last one i listened too was cut short. :confused:

[Boxer]

my tape 2 just ended in mid thought. Is it supposed to or have I missed something?

[5boxersmom]

I wonder if Casey ever knew a ZF-G that has died? Maybe a friend of her grandmothers or someone that worked at her school. Just thinking of something here.

Caylee:rose:

[bchand]

my tape 2 just ended in mid thought. Is it supposed to or have I missed something?


Sorry mine is still running but it may stop eventually.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-interview-2,0,7831127.mp3file

[kakax]

my tape 2 just ended in mid thought. Is it supposed to or have I missed something?


My Fox tape ended too. I went to the other link and ff to where I was.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-interview-2,0,7831127.mp3file

[bluwaters]

She sure loves talking about her cell phone, plans, sim card, etc. ad nausea m!

[Boxer]

I wonder if Casey ever knew a ZF-G that has died? Maybe a friend of her grandmothers or someone that worked at her school. Just thinking of something here.

Caylee:rose:

I don't know how to get the Colonial High School yearbood photos, but someone posted a while back that there was a Zenaida in her yearbook. Please correct me if I am wrong..:seeya:

[Acorn]

She sure loves talking about her cell phone, plans, sim card, etc. ad nausea m!

That's the round and round the bush technique. hammer It's irritating as well as telling. imo

[jakee]

Do you all think the June 9th date was just a mistake on Casey's part, seems like one would remember the last time you saw your baby. I know, she lies, but, gosh I don't know what to think.

It is sad that she did seem afraid of Cindy's reaction, unless that was a lie too. grrrrr I am baffled.

[101Spots]

It's my understanding that Casey was fired from Universal waaaaay back about '06. Does anyone know why she was fired?

Or have I misunderstood?

[spiritwolf46]

On the third tape. Making me so sick. barf

It is so much different listening to it than reading it, isn't it??

Oh poor little Caylee. :rose:

[WillowInFlight]

Trying to catch up, on the tape did Casey say the last time she saw Caylee was June 9th?

[dmh]

I listened to tape 1 and 2 She is unbeleivable!!!!!! Can anyone link me up to tape 3 thanks in advance

[bchand]

It's my understanding that Casey was fired from Universal waaaaay back about '06. Does anyone know why she was fired?

Or have I misunderstood?

She definitely was fired. Cindy said the same thing at the bond hearing. We don't know why, but I've also read about others "being fired" from there. I don't get that either - they don't say lay off or let go, they say fired.

[crymeariver2006]

Who was it that said we needed a BIG leak today?

:D

[concernedmom]

Good cop bad cop. :D

[bchand]

Trying to catch up, on the tape did Casey say the last time she saw Caylee was June 9th?


Yes she did, many times.

[dmh]

This will really pizz the protesters. The anthony's should concider guards after this.

[spiritwolf46]

has she been arrested again yet?

[Boxer]

Do you all think the June 9th date was just a mistake on Casey's part, seems like one would remember the last time you saw your baby. I know, she lies, but, gosh I don't know what to think.

It is sad that she did seem afraid of Cindy's reaction, unless that was a lie too. grrrrr I am baffled.


these dates mix me up. On 911 Cindy says she has not seen Caylee since June 7, tells police June 9, then we have the video and witness saying at assisted living on June 15....

[WillowInFlight]

Yes she did, many times.
Thank You:)

[Boxer]

Who was it that said we needed a BIG leak today?

:D


one video said Fridays were news days for this case

[spiritwolf46]

I had a rather brilliant rant on the earlier thread today about the leaks, and the timing thereof. :D

Unfortunately, everyone was knee deep in Casey's interview tapes by then. {sniffle}


Doesn't that just whiz on your tree when that happens? I had that happen the other night.

:rose: For Caylee

[Boxer]

I had a rather brilliant rant on the earlier thread today about the leaks, and the timing thereof. :D

Unfortunately, everyone was knee deep in Casey's interview tapes by then. {sniffle}

feel free to rerant:D

[msjoni]

This will really pizz the protesters. The anthony's should concider guards after this.

I agree, I think the Anthony's will have a LARGE crowd tonight....

[ccat]

When will she be arrested????

[jakee]

these dates mix me up. On 911 Cindy says she has not seen Caylee since June 7, tells police June 9, then we have the video and witness saying at assisted living on June 15....

This is what I am trying to understand. I know Cindy forgot about the Father's Day visit being the 15th, but Casey keeps saying the 9th. Why? I think for some reason they wanted it to be the 9th? Does anyone think that they thought LE would not find out about Father's Day visit? I think I am losing parts of my brain again. I know, I am probably stretching here. hammer

[SavannahStar]

Do you all think the June 9th date was just a mistake on Casey's part, seems like one would remember the last time you saw your baby. I know, she lies, but, gosh I don't know what to think.

It is sad that she did seem afraid of Cindy's reaction, unless that was a lie too. grrrrr I am baffled.

I think they all just didn't put two and two together as far as the actual date of Father's Day, and then realize it was the day after Father's Day. I don't read much into it.

[SavannahStar]

When will she be arrested????

Wrong board for that question.

OCSD Internal Message Board thataway ---->

[crymeariver2006]

I had a rather brilliant rant on the earlier thread today about the leaks, and the timing thereof. :D

Unfortunately, everyone was knee deep in Casey's interview tapes by then. {sniffle}

LOL, I didn't see the rant. By the time I got back on, the tapes were out and everybody was talking about them.

Feel free to re-post it!

This is NG tonight: :cuss:

Then once she unleashes the lawyers and they talk back to her: :flamemad:

I can't wait!

[jakee]

I think they all just didn't put two and two together as far as the actual date of Father's Day, and then realize it was the day after Father's Day. I don't read much into it.

Ok thank you. My mind was going crazy and I am thinking crazy thoughts. I can understand dates getting mixed up.

[SavannahStar]

I believe in this case it is very noteworthy.

See... the cases brought up above... there is grieving going on.

This? No grieving. I think Casey slipped up. Again. :)

Oh I'm sure more people agree with you on that than not. But.....I think with everything else closing in on Casey, it's probably a very moot point.

[crymeariver2006]

Okie dokie. :D

My earlier rant ...


That was fast!

Oh man, the protesters are going to be out in full force tonight. If Baez has a lick of d@mn sense, he'll turn her in today at four and not have her bailed out until Monday.

But, I also think if he had a lick of sense he'd already be in discussion with the state on all these felonies which are sure to result in convictions.

[crymeariver2006]

Wrong board for that question.

OCSD Internal Message Board thataway ---->


Except that OCSO dot com will take you to the Sheriff's department.

OCSD dot com will take you to the Sanitation Department.

:tongue:

[~jomomma~]

Except that OCSO dot com will take you to the Sheriff's department.

OCSD dot com will take you to the Sanitation Department.

:tongue:


:lol: you guys crack me up :D

[concernedmom]

Arrested for what?


This girl is whacked.
Criminally insane.

[crymeariver2006]

I don't know why they say June 9th or June 15th.

June 9th is seven whole days worse than June 15th.

[SavannahStar]

Except that OCSO dot com will take you to the Sheriff's department.

OCSD dot com will take you to the Sanitation Department.

:tongue:

:eek: OOPSIE! :lol:

[SavannahStar]

This girl is whacked.
Criminally insane.

A little weird, she is that. I dunno about criminally insane. No, I don't think so.

[tybek]

Rolling foward from the last thread...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broderick
Didn't her mother get the truth out of her at times? Was it through a gentle approach? I tend to doubt anyone in the family is gentle.

That is what Cindy claims, but I'm not sure I believe it. I think it is more likely that Cindy got irrefutable evidence on Casey's misdeeds at times in the past, and then (and only then) Casey probably made up a lie/excuse to explain away the situation which Cindy took for the truth. Like the "borrowing" of credit cards... JMO

[day2day]

Wrong board for that question.

OCSD Internal Message Board thataway ---->

lol ..get outa my head wouldya!!

[joolz]

Hi:seeya: I'm trying to skim through and catch up while listening to the audiotapes (yikes). Did someone mention earlier that Amy sold an interview to one of the tabloids? Is that true?

[kakax]

I don't know about you guys but child neglect charges don't seem harsh enough if you misplace your child. Even if they don't have evidence of murder 1, there has to be a different charge that would give what she has done more weight. Kimberly Gm said something about a negligent circumstance homicidem. Anyone else remember her talking about that?

[dreamtime]

Last night, someone posted that they heard a Knoxville, Tenessee radio station say that the Body Farm people had left for Orlando, Fl the day before.
But I never saw anything else posted about it.

So, I am unsure if this is true or not.
I tried to look up all the radio stations in Knoxville, Tn
and some do not have their news on their web site.

Anyone else know anything about this?
Or did I just dream it after being on line for 3 hours straight?

Thanks

[101Spots]

Except that OCSO dot com will take you to the Sheriff's department.

OCSD dot com will take you to the Sanitation Department.

:tongue:

In this case, either may be applicable.

[tybek]

rolling forward from prior thread. If there is a way to roll a post foward to a new thread so that it looks llike it originally did (quotes in purple) TIA

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneUp
That explains the tears for me anyway...she was crying because she was thinking about how "mean" Cindy is to her...the detectives just called her attention to the fact and gave her an "out" to say she was upset about Caylee and just couldn't control her tears....I'm not surprised they dried right up with a quickness.
JMO.


The tears are also right about when they switch from "bad cop" to "good cop" mode...I think it caught her off guard, but then she adapts pretty quickly. I also find it interesting that she then tells the "good cop" how Zanny used to give her praise about how she was raising Caylee...she actually says something like Zanny said she was "PROUD of the way Caylee was being raised" and then says, "you know, nothing I haven't heard from friends before..." I think she was trying to convince them (and herself) that she was a good mom. Interesting that she does this right after "good cop" bring up Cindy yelling at Casey and fighting with her. Since we now know about Cindy's talk with the counselor and advice to get custody. IMO

[steffaroob4]

fox 8 tapes (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=13&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)

[msgatorslayer]

Listening to Casey it sounds as though Zanny was homeless.:lol:

She lived here, watched kids at {forgot name}, moved here, went there, lived with her Mom, moved into Sawgrass.:rolleyes:

[Boxer]

This is what I am trying to understand. I know Cindy forgot about the Father's Day visit being the 15th, but Casey keeps saying the 9th. Why? I think for some reason they wanted it to be the 9th? Does anyone think that they thought LE would not find out about Father's Day visit? I think I am losing parts of my brain again. I know, I am probably stretching here. hammer

I'll give her an error for the 9th being the 15th, but what of the 7th? I just don't get it! :confused:

[IfIMay]

IMO, they forgot about the father's day visit and was just getting their story straight - so that's the date they came up with. My other thought on that is that they wanted her pings from June 15-June 18 not examined closely (substitute any other day, say June 9)

How do you forget the last time you saw your granddaughter was with your own dad? I don't know if there is any significance to it, but I'd have mentioned Father's day with Dad and then we came home...something like that. Weird.

[Ionmhainn]

A little weird, she is that. I dunno about criminally insane. No, I don't think so.

I don't quite know what to make of her. Listening to the tapes...while I understand the pressure tactics, I couldn't help wishing the dets had left more room for "uncomfortable silences." Casey strikes me as the sort who would have a need to "fill the silence." Just a thought and mo.

[SavannahStar]

Last night, someone posted that they heard a Knoxville, Tenessee radio station say that the Body Farm people had left for Orlando, Fl the day before.
But I never saw anything else posted about it.

So, I am unsure if this is true or not.
I tried to look up all the radio stations in Knoxville, Tn
and some do not have their news on their web site.

Anyone else know anything about this?
Or did I just dream it after being on line for 3 hours straight?

Thanks

I think I read on HERE this morning that someone heard it on another board. Maybe WS? I take it as an unfounded rumor.

[WillowInFlight]

Arrested for what?

The charges they filed on her yesterday.

[Broderick]

Rolling foward from the last thread...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broderick
Didn't her mother get the truth out of her at times? Was it through a gentle approach? I tend to doubt anyone in the family is gentle.

That is what Cindy claims, but I'm not sure I believe it. I think it is more likely that Cindy got irrefutable evidence on Casey's misdeeds at times in the past, and then (and only then) Casey probably made up a lie/excuse to explain away the situation which Cindy took for the truth. Like the "borrowing" of credit cards... JMO


Could be. That is why I don't think there is any proper approach to getting her to tell the truth because she creates reality as she sees fit in her mind. I think she was a bit flumoxed by LE because she is so used to re-creating the reality and having people believe her. I think brow beating a bit causes the stumbles such as past tense talk and things that can be correlated to any other verbal statements and written statements. Basically they get her to elaborate on her lies by playing it the way they did.

George was married before and didn't his wife leave him because he lied all the time? Seems a real pattern within the family as there are numerous lies documented with Cindy. I think reality was a bit off in the house and having people believe your lies was the norm, even if you had to elaborate on them. A different reality every day. I think we learn patterns like this in nurture rather than nature.

[Broderick]

Man! A light just went on in my muddled head.

That is pretty obvious, but it got tripped up by the camera.

[spiritwolf46]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

This is the greatest point I have heard. It makes so much sense! Thank you!

[day2day]

I'll give her an error for the 9th being the 15th, but what of the 7th? I just don't get it! :confused:

Didn't George and Cindy say the 9th also?

[happy2bme]

<p>Wow...listening to her is unbelievable.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>One thing I have learned today....I could never ever be in LE because I am afraid I would have jumped up and smacked her one for repeatedly lying to me.:punch:</p>

[5boxersmom]

I hope that anyone that knew Caylee wouldn't be so crass as to do that and jeapordize their testimony. (yeah, I know the Anthonys already have, I mean 'normal' people)

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

Caylee:rose:

[day2day]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

Thats what I was thinking! I just don't understand how none of them couldn't remember the right date? :shrug:

[anyonesguess]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

ITA LS. I have ALWAYS thought it was so weird they ALL got Father day wrong. Not criminal of course, but remembering when you LAST saw your granddaughter would NOT be a date I would think you would forget imo.

[concernedmom]

Wow...listening to her is unbelievable.


One thing I have learned to day....I could never ever be in LE because I am afraid I would have jumped up and smacked her one for repeatedly lying to me.:punch:

I couldnt have stayed as patient as they did either when someone was looking me in the eye and lying out the butt.I would have
:punch: her too.

[msgatorslayer]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

And IMO, LE called the Anthony's on the 9th date after talking to Amy and, one of the guys, forgot who, had seen Casey and Caylee on that date.

I've never believed that all the Anthony's could accidentally forget Father's Day.

[bluwaters]

I don't know about you guys but child neglect charges don't seem harsh enough if you misplace your child. Even if they don't have evidence of murder 1, there has to be a different charge that would give what she has done more weight. Kimberly Gm said something about a negligent circumstance homicidem. Anyone else remember her talking about that?

I do think that there is a real problem with the neglect being the heaviest charge for losing your child. Ooopsie!
Until Casey came along, had anyone ever just 'lost' a child before, without a credible explanation? I don't think that the law could have possibly anticipated Casey Anthony. There needs to be a change in the law to address this sad circumstance. If Casey gets away with this, it may look easy to another trapped parent.

Sorry, I don't know about Kimberly's comment.

[crymeariver2006]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

Yes. Add in the email from Lee to Yuri where he's telling him Zaneida's name, her sister's name, the mother's name, the father's name, the car and the fact that Zaneida's father bought the car.

He said that he got the information from George and Cindy.

That's a lot of ground to cover before you call the police.

[spiritwolf46]

<p>Wow...listening to her is unbelievable.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>One thing I have learned today....I could never ever be in LE because I am afraid I would have jumped up and smacked her one for repeatedly lying to me.:punch:</p>


ITA!!!! I would have definitely given her a FRESH ONE!

[SavannahStar]

rolling forward from prior thread. If there is a way to roll a post foward to a new thread so that it looks llike it originally did (quotes in purple) TIA

*snipped*




I think (if the thread is not locked), you can quote the post you wish to reply to, then in the new reply window, just copy the entire quote (along with the quote tags). Then come to the new thread and hit "post", then in the post window paste what you copied.

[Broderick]

Wow...listening to her is unbelievable.


One thing I have learned to day....I could never ever be in LE because I am afraid I would have jumped up and smacked her one for repeatedly lying to me.:punch:

You can sense their frustration as she carries the lie she just admitted to and continually weaves it into the conversation down the road. It is amazing and quite fascinating.

[Boxer]

Didn't George and Cindy say the 9th also?

in the 911 call, Cindy said she had not seen Caylee since the 7th.

[anyonesguess]

Lies roll off of her tongue as easily as the truth rolls off of the majority of people imo. She sure has a silver tongue when it comes to lying for sure.

[joolz]

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

Caylee:rose:


TY. I'm never going to buy the Globe, so does anyone know if this alleged "best friend" is really Amy? Or do they even claim it is? I was really hoping she and TonE would stay silent until a trial.

[WillowInFlight]

Could be. That is why I don't think there is any proper approach to getting her to tell the truth because she creates reality as she sees fit in her mind. I think she was a bit flumoxed by LE because she is so used to re-creating the reality and having people believe her. I think brow beating a bit causes the stumbles such as past tense talk and things that can be correlated to any other verbal statements and written statements. Basically they get her to elaborate on her lies by playing it the way they did.

George was married before and didn't his wife leave him because he lied all the time? Seems a real pattern within the family as there are numerous lies documented with Cindy. I think reality was a bit off in the house and having people believe your lies was the norm, even if you had to elaborate on them. A different reality every day. I think we learn patterns like this in nurture rather than nature.

Didn't George have a gambling problem? maybe thats why lied so much. Not saying it's right of course.

[msgatorslayer]

You know how Cindy gets the truth? She tracks it down herself. (her controlling nature) I doubt Casey gives the truth unless she wants to.

:beer:Thats why she can't find Caylee. There is nobody to taddle on Casey and tell what happened.

[Broderick]

Sorry ... come again? I don't understand your post? :confused:

They were working out the date as the 9th. If it wasn't for the camera with pictures from father's day that date would still be the date the family went with.

[crymeariver2006]

I wonder if the girl from Tennessee (myspace and youtube) that sings a song for Caylee -- if she's associated with the farm or if she is just a random person that cares about Caylee


I'm thinking she's just a random person that cares about Caylee and what happened to her.

Much like the rest of us.

[Armchairdet]

Someone please explain to me how she can be caught in the lie about her job, and yet continue on for the rest of the interview explaining the many homes of ZG that Caylee stayed at, and how she did not know the roommates of ZG because they worked an opposite schedule of Casey? Who by the way also mentioned working late from time to time.

[anyonesguess]

If going to the nursing home is a fairly regular event, Cindy probably had to take Caylee fairly often so that Casey could "work"

I agree with that Mizz, but I would think that Cindy would know the exact date she last saw her granddaughter, and not a full week error either imo.

[forensicnut]

Two threads going at the same time! Here's all 8 parts of the interview:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=13&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Boxer]

Okay, I've listened to the final part of the long interview twice, and both times they seem cut off. One is cut off sooner than the other, but both are cut off.

Anyone else have the same problem?

Anyone here hear the final, final of the 2nd interview, right up to the swearing of the statement part?


same problem, cut off mid sentence. maybe we will get the rest later. maybe that is all they had ready to go.

[Broderick]

Didn't George have a gambling problem? maybe thats why lied so much. Not saying it's right of course.


I am talking about his first wife of course, and possibly that was the crux of his problem.

[SavannahStar]

You can sense their frustration as she carries the lie she just admitted to and continually weaves it into the conversation down the road. It is amazing and quite fascinating.


It IS. It actually IS fascinating.

And a HECK of a lot better than watching the webcam. :hat:

[Boxer]

Someone please explain to me how she can be caught in the lie about her job, and yet continue on for the rest of the interview explaining the many homes of ZG that Caylee stayed at, and how she did not know the roommates of ZG because they worked an opposite schedule of Casey? Who by the way also mentioned working late from time to time.

2 errors for Cindy. first the 7th, then 9th, then 15th after police do whatever it is that police do to the memory card.

[joolz]

Okay, I've listened to the final part of the long interview twice, and both times they seem cut off. One is cut off sooner than the other, but both are cut off.

Anyone else have the same problem?

Anyone here hear the final, final of the 2nd interview, right up to the swearing of the statement part?

How do you get to start the tape at the point you want? I stopped in the middle of the second tape and when I started it again it went back to the beginning. TYIA

[OneUp]

I don't know about you guys but child neglect charges don't seem harsh enough if you misplace your child. Even if they don't have evidence of murder 1, there has to be a different charge that would give what she has done more weight. Kimberly Gm said something about a negligent circumstance homicidem. Anyone else remember her talking about that?IDK about the neg. circumstance homocide charge...I know they have several options for charging homicide. I don't think they will have any trouble proving the current charges OR getting the max. sentence on them. Proving the murder gets more dicey because of the "reasonable doubt" factor. Findfing Caylee would certainly help to cinch the case IMO.
I do think that the gravity of the situation combined with her not only failing to help, but actively working to hinder the investigation by lying is the reason the bail is set so high. It was, IMO set on the FACTS of the severity of the crime, not because of a judges emotional response to Casey. I think he made no bones about the fact that he found her pretty despicable ( who wouldn't? ...maybe Cindy...), but I seriously doubt he set the bail based on his personal feelings rather than the facts. That wouldn't make him much of a judge, would it?
JMO.

[happy2bme]

Still listening..

Did I just hear Casey right

She said when she talked to Caylee that it was crazy she(caylee) didn't get upset when she talked to her and then turned around and said she never gets upset when they talk on the phone:confused:

[crymeariver2006]

:beer:Thats why she can't find Caylee. There is nobody to taddle on Casey and tell what happened.


"Absolutely"

:D

[5boxersmom]

TY. I'm never going to buy the Globe, so does anyone know if this alleged "best friend" is really Amy? Or do they even claim it is? I was really hoping she and TonE would stay silent until a trial.


I haven't bought it and probably will not. Maybe someone here will. The rumor on another board is that it was Kristina. jmo

Caylee:rose:

[msjoni]

IMO, Cindy lies with the same abandon, if not the same level of conviction, as her daughter. I'm at the point of not believing a word out of Cindy's mouth, either. Not a word.

The whole family lies, probably why they refused the lie detector tests...:cuss:

[True2Blues]

<p>Wow...listening to her is unbelievable.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>One thing I have learned today....I could never ever be in LE because I am afraid I would have jumped up and smacked her one for repeatedly lying to me.:punch:</p>

The lies come out in a torrent don't they? I noticed Casey said that Zanny never showed any obsessive love of Caylee, like she wanted her for her own. As I recall, that's one of Cindy's tall tales, that Zanny just had to have Caylee for her own.

Lots of Me Me Me. The compliments she got from Zanny about how well She'd raised Caylee were the same ones she got from all of her friends. Everything is about Casey.

I'd definitely have to be Bad Cop, because there's no way I could stroke that ego when I wanted to shake her until her teeth rattle.

[SavannahStar]

How do you get to start the tape at the point you want? I stopped in the middle of the second tape and when I started it again it went back to the beginning. TYIA

You have to drag the little thingy over to approx. where you left off. Sorry, don't know the proper word for the little thingy.

[cassidy]

It IS. It actually IS fascinating.

And a HECK of a lot better than watching the webcam. :hat:

Unbelievably fascinating. She is totally caught in a lie and keeps right on going with it. Never heard anything like that before. Must be VERY frustrating to LE. They didn't get anywhere with her. Nothing rattled her calm.

[WillowInFlight]

She was arrested and bonded out for those charges already :confused:

Yesterdays charges were new, one included grand theft.

[forensicnut]

The date is wrong on this thread. Today is the 12th....it might confuse people. Like me.

[margaritaville]

2 errors for Cindy. first the 7th, then 9th, then 15th after police do whatever it is that police do to the memory card.



Makes me wonder what ws so significant about the June 9th date...

Casey used that over and over and over again as the last day she saw Caylee..But we all know it was the 16th...........

I still wonder why the 9th????

[ruth66]

Casey tells the detective that she heard from Zenaida's friends different things that Zenaida said about her feelings for Caylee. He was asking if Zenaida had ever said anything that made her think this might happen. So why hasn't anyone ever heard of Zenaida or why haven't any of those "friends" come forward?

JMO

[concernedmom]

It IS. It actually IS fascinating.

And a HECK of a lot better than watching the webcam. :hat:

Maybe they will keep her brain and do a study on it.lol
I am facinated by how her lie just kept growing and being repeated after she was caught.
Ive never known anyone that could do that.:eek:

[OneUp]

Don't criminals usually lie about the date - forward instead of backward. So there is more time for clean up.Lying "backwards" allows more time to elapse between when she supposedly last had Caylee and the TOD (if it can ever be determined, but no one would be able to count on that two+ months ago).
JMO

[Boxer]

Two threads going at the same time! Here's all 8 parts of the interview:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=13&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


love ya, mean it...:D

this girl is in no way wanting her child found.

[bchand]

Where is Casey and Baez today? :shrug:

Anyone seen Lee zipping around trying to run over protestors today? LOL


Baez wasn't in his office today so Casey got to stay at home allllll day with Cindy.

[crymeariver2006]

Man! A light just went on in my muddled head.


Is it the same light that went on in mine?

Does it relate to Cindy?

[day2day]

in the 911 call, Cindy said she had not seen Caylee since the 7th.


Thanks Boxer..the 7th the 9th imo they taught Casey very well.

[forensicnut]

Makes me wonder what ws so significant about the June 9th date...

Casey used that over and over and over again as the last day she saw Caylee..But we all know it was the 16th...........

I still wonder why the 9th????


On such a milestone date, when you lose your daughter....you'd think it would be cemented in her mind!

[Boxer]

The date is wrong on this thread. Today is the 12th....it might confuse people. Like me.


lol, true, but the thread isn't missing

[WillowInFlight]

Listening to part 3 again, she sounds like a flippant little brat.

[True2Blues]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.


They're all accomplished liars, that's for sure.

[SavannahStar]

There is a little triangle that shows where you are on the tape.

Click on it & move it to where you want to be in the tape. Hope that helps. :)


That's what I said! Drag the little thingy!! :lol:

[bchand]

Casey tells the detective that she heard from Zenaida's friends different things that Zenaida said about her feelings for Caylee. He was asking if Zenaida had ever said anything that made her think this might happen. So why hasn't anyone ever heard of Zenaida or why haven't any of those "friends" come forward?

JMO

Because neither Zenaida nor her friends exist.

(I know you knew that :) )

[Boxer]

Because she couldn't keep track of theirlie of the 9th

imo

I think so...

[happy2bme]

Welp the Det. was right about people would crucify her for this.

[kakax]

I don't know about you guys but child neglect charges don't seem harsh enough if you misplace your child. Even if they don't have evidence of murder 1, there has to be a different charge that would give what she has done more weight. Kimberly Gm said something about a negligent circumstance homicidem. Anyone else remember her talking about that?


Sorry I was on my bb and I see I made typos..rofl.

[spiritwolf46]

The date is wrong on this thread. Today is the 12th....it might confuse people. Like me.

Already been addressed. :seeya:

[True2Blues]

On such a milestone date, when you lose your daughter....you'd think it would be cemented in her mind!

You'd think so wouldn't you?

[OneUp]

How do you forget the last time you saw your granddaughter was with your own dad? I don't know if there is any significance to it, but I'd have mentioned Father's day with Dad and then we came home...something like that. Weird.I agree, if anything, most of us would have said "I saw her last on Fathers Day...gosh, when was that?"...not remembered the date, but not a significant event. That is the biggest part of why I think that date ( the 15th) was a specifically chosen and agreed upon l-i-e.
JMO.

[joolz]

You have to drag the little thingy over to approx. where you left off. Sorry, don't know the proper word for the little thingy.

Thank you. I don't know the name of it either, but I think I know the little thingy you mean :D. That bar thing at the bottom, right?

[jakee]

Casey tells the detective that she heard from Zenaida's friends different things that Zenaida said about her feelings for Caylee. He was asking if Zenaida had ever said anything that made her think this might happen. So why hasn't anyone ever heard of Zenaida or why haven't any of those "friends" come forward?

JMO


Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMO

[msgatorslayer]

Makes me wonder what ws so significant about the June 9th date...

Casey used that over and over and over again as the last day she saw Caylee..But we all know it was the 16th...........

I still wonder why the 9th????

I'm not sure the 9th is significant for any reason. They all knew the Fathers Day blow out occured. Looks bad. So they may have picked an earlier date, just because.

[concernedmom]

Absolutely. Because even if they didn't lie on the big, HUGE stuff, they lie so much as a general rule that they'd probably all flunk a lie detector test so badly they'd set a new standard for lie detector failure results.

:lol: I agree with you.

[Boxer]

That's what I said! Drag the little thingy!! :lol:


imo, lol, this could mean Casey, :D

[crymeariver2006]

Yesterdays charges were new, one included grand theft.


The only new thing from yesterday was the one for "grand theft". The others were for the arrest during NG. These are the official charges by the state.

Oddly enough, in Cindy's first 911 call she used the exact words "Grand Theft" when she said she wanted her daughter arrested.

[Armchairdet]

On such a milestone date, when you lose your daughter....you'd think it would be cemented in her mind!

Which is another reason her pretending Caylee was with a nanny while she was working does not compute. For instance, she went to pick her up after work...and was going to then take her where? What were the plans? Who was expecting them? Where did she end up going that night? Was she upset? Was she upset at 'work' the next day?

IMO

[SavannahStar]

Thank you. I don't know the name of it either, but I think I know the little thingy you mean :D. That bar thing at the bottom, right?


:).........

[Broderick]

I'm not sure the 9th is significant for any reason. They all knew the Fathers Day blow out occured. Looks bad. So they may have picked an earlier date, just because.

Didn't Cindy not want the grandparents interviewed? See, they had the 9th or so down pat but some pictures of Caylee at Father's day at the great grandfathers was found on a camera by LE. Cindy was there. Caylee was there. Before that camera was taken, the date was the 9th or before.

[ruth66]

Because neither Zenaida nor her friends exist.

(I know you knew that :) )

Thank you for that last comment, I hesitate to post often even though I read daily. The back and forth is torture here.....

JMO:patriot:

[Boxer]

Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMO


Beevis J Hopkins and Butthead M Lewis, imo.....

[trich]

I must say that as frustrated as I am at, well ... everything surrounding this case ... I absolutely LOVE the way all the information and 'leaks' are being put out to the public. It's a slow drip-drip, like Chinese water torture. It keeps the focus on the fact that Caylee is STILL MISSING. It keeps the focus on the bizarre, criminal and detestable behavior of Casey. It keeps the focus on her bevy of enablers -- mom and dad, brother Lee, and Baez. And every day it ramps up public outrage just a little more.

If this is LE strategy, and something tells me a great deal of it is, it is brilliant, IMO. I think they want a slam-dunk case, which can only be had by finding Caylee's remains, and enough of them to confirm homicide as the COD. Barring that, applying this kind of slow drip pressure to the entire Anthony team is having a clear effect. And in true Anthony style, their reaction to the pressure is making them appear less sympathetic by the DAY. Heck, even their world-renowned, highly paid, criminal defense attorney's media blitz had little to no effect on public sentiment -- and perhaps had the opposite effect as was intended.

Even if Casey never speaks a word of truth, by the time this torturous process has played out, IMO, the circumstantial evidence and singularly despicable behavior of Team Anthony will be enough to not only charge Casey with Caylee's death, but will also be enough to convict her.

All IMO, of course.


I agree....with all the lies and stories Casey and her family have told and are recorded I don't see any defense ....she will never get up on the stand to testify for herself.
Surely Baez has better sense then to put her up there...the prosecution will make mince meat of her.
Heck I think one of us laymen could do that . LOL
You know the way I understand it a lawyer can not knowingly condone their client to get up and lie under oath...considering so many things she had lied about and are recorded how can she say differently...another reason not to let her testify for herself.

[joolz]

There is a little triangle that shows where you are on the tape.

Click on it & move it to where you want to be in the tape. Hope that helps. :)


TY - and I like your theory about June 9th and getting their lies coordinated. :) Makes sense. Well, as much as anything makes sense in this insane case.

[msjoni]

I haven't bought it and probably will not. Maybe someone here will. The rumor on another board is that it was Kristina. jmo

Caylee:rose:

It was Kristina,and now she won't be a credible witness....:mad:

[Acorn]

Casey tells the detective that she heard from Zenaida's friends different things that Zenaida said about her feelings for Caylee. He was asking if Zenaida had ever said anything that made her think this might happen. So why hasn't anyone ever heard of Zenaida or why haven't any of those "friends" come forward?

JMO

Isn't it sad. All the invisible friends and inventing the invisible nanny to tell her how great a mom she is.

The invisible nanny who is opposite of Cindy up until the point of Cindy's threat of taking Caylee away which becomes transferred to the invisble nanny persona. How weird.

imo

[WillowInFlight]

The only new thing from yesterday was the one for "grand theft". The others were for the arrest during NG. These are the official charges by the state.

Oddly enough, in Cindy's first 911 call she used the exact words "Grand Theft" when she said she wanted her daughter arrested.
Thanks Cry.

[Velouria]

Absolutely. Because even if they didn't lie on the big, HUGE stuff, they lie so much as a general rule that they'd probably all flunk a lie detector test so badly they'd set a new standard for lie detector failure results.

Right SayWHAT - they'd owe the poor examiner a new machine by the time it was over. ;)

[OneUp]

ITA LS. I have ALWAYS thought it was so weird they ALL got Father day wrong. Not criminal of course, but remembering when you LAST saw your granddaughter would NOT be a date I would think you would forget imo.
One would also think that Cindy, during the month she didn't see or speak to Caylee, would have been obsessing over every detail or clue. I'm sure she would have noted and gone back to that last day over and over.
JMO.

[kakax]

I do think that there is a real problem with the neglect being the heaviest charge for losing your child. Ooopsie!
Until Casey came along, had anyone ever just 'lost' a child before, without a credible explanation? I don't think that the law could have possibly anticipated Casey Anthony. There needs to be a change in the law to address this sad circumstance. If Casey gets away with this, it may look easy to another trapped parent.

Sorry, I don't know about Kimberly's comment.

I'm not ambitious enough to go look for it either rofl.

If they end up not having enough for murder 1, I hope they can come up with some other alternative.

[Boxer]

Yep.

And then the story changed & they all had the wrong date.

All of them. With the same wrong date.

I bet law enforcement is seriously looking at the whole family.

I am sure they are. And as Cindy says, if everyone would leave the family alone it will all be just fine...:cool:

[bluwaters]

Agreed. The whole family was trying to get their stories straight.

Hence the fact that they all had the same wrong date.

IMO.

Cindy went into a long explanation about why she thought that FD was on the 9th, since it is always on the second Sunday in June, but obviously this year it wasn't, it was the 3rd Sunday, yak, yak, yak.
Where is that tape?
Cindy's testimony at the 1st Bond Hearing perhaps?
At any rate, she over-explained the error in my opinion.
So yeah, I've got to agree that they had all agreed on June 9 as being the date that Caylee was seen.

I have thought about over emphasizing every little thing that Casey says. However, I don't think that it is at all normal or common place for Casey to speak of Caylee in the past tense while talking about her health or things she likes. As a mom, I don't speak of my children in the past tense, unless it is about something that they are unlikely to do again - such as a special, once in a lifetime vacation. Going to the park and playing - a normal, everyday kind of activity for a mother and child - the past tense sounds really wrong to me.
Could just be mine.

Anyway, I have read those interviews several times. The impact I got today while listening was electrifying! I thought that the detectives were great. :patriot:

I couldn't stand up to them even if I was innocent.

[OneUp]

And IMO, LE called the Anthony's on the 9th date after talking to Amy and, one of the guys, forgot who, had seen Casey and Caylee on that date.

I've never believed that all the Anthony's could accidentally forget Father's Day.Cindy and Caylee had spent the night with Ricardo on the 9th, through the morning of the 10th.

[Armchairdet]

Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMO

I am suprised she did not say a girl helped her push the car. When asked if she had a name, tell LE her name was Anita Carr...sorry.

[msgatorslayer]

Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMO

Within a month, they moved to North Carolina, New York, back to J'Ville, and then Japan. Casey had their number and was in contact with them. They switched from ATT, Verizon, and finally, Alltell. Then Casey lost her phone:D

[joolz]

It was Kristina,and now she won't be a credible witness....:mad:


:flamemad:Stoooooopid girl!

[kakax]

Yep.

And then the story changed & they all had the wrong date.

All of them. With the same wrong date.

I bet law enforcement is seriously looking at the whole family.


I sure hope so...nice catch!!

[crymeariver2006]

Isn't it sad. All the invisible friends and inventing the invisible nanny to tell her how great a mom she is.

The invisible nanny who is opposite of Cindy up until the point of Cindy's threat of taking Caylee away which becomes transferred to the invisble nanny persona. How weird.

imo

Yeah, freaky ain't it?

[ruth66]

Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMO

Casey can spin some really incredible stories.....she really is quite smooth at launching the lies and not blinking an eyelash when she is obviously not being truthful (like just answered the same question completely differently). Maybe someone needs to do a case study on her....

JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy and Caylee had spent the night with Ricardo on the 9th, through the morning of the 10th.

Thank you, Oneup. And IIRC, the date was significant to him because of a birthday or some memorable event. Same with Amy. She was positive she had seen them both on the 9th.

[Velouria]

It was Kristina,and now she won't be a credible witness....:mad:

I wouldn't really worry msjoni...Kristina's testimony is really only relevant as to the date when she claims Casey brought Caylee over and they all went for a walk. She doens't have much bearing on the facts surrounding the real crux of the case, other than to perhaps offer character testimony during the sentencing phase.

[greylover]

Well, I'm only at the first tape, when Casey is telling LE about all of the people she was "calling" from the two lost phones.

Here's a couple of idle thoughts.

First of all, she says she called Jeff/Zenada (phone disconnected)/Juliette/Zenaida's mother. I'll bet my paycheck that there are no records of any of these calls on the date(s) in question, when Caylee went "missing."

I am sooooo certain that LE has tons of stuff we haven't heard yet and will be amazed when we do..

I said this the other day, and I'll say it again - Casey has been lying to amateurs her whole life. On the day she gave these interviews she started lying to professionals, and that will be her demise. I believe SHE believes she pulls the wool over everyone's eyes. Not any more.

I wonder if she really and truly believes that she will win this case before a jury, when (and I believe it is a matter of when) it ever comes to court on the Caylee charges. Can it be possible that she believes people on a jury will buy her story? Or has she been lying for so long to so many that she cannot herself figure fact from fiction?

She is a very intriguing person (in a psychological way) - the behaviorists will enjoy studying her pathology in the years to come.



jmo

[crymeariver2006]

Within a month, they moved to North Carolina, New York, back to J'Ville, and then Japan. Casey had their number and was in contact with them. They switched from ATT, Verizon, and finally, Alltell. Then Casey lost her phone:D

And then she emailed them twice that morning and the emails bounced back.

:D

[WillowInFlight]

After listening to the tapes I wonder if LE was surprised they couldn't crack her.

[joolz]

How about the constant referral to people using three names, like serial killers. ZFG. Her friend Jefferey; same thing, she uses their three names and it's very weird.

I am firm on the 9th being their "story" all three, and it's going to screw them in my mind it sure did. When i saw all three of their handwriting on their own statements say the 9th; That was When I knew for SURE.

Criminals make 32 mistakes. This is the one that will be the Anthony's undoing. I'm certain of that. It's convoluted, but sometimes crimes are.
there are 3 minds on this one, not one.

Jenny, what do you mean when you say that criminals make 32 mistakes? :confused:

[day2day]

Didn't Cindy not want the grandparents interviewed? See, they had the 9th or so down pat but some pictures of Caylee at Father's day at the great grandfathers was found on a camera by LE. Cindy was there. Caylee was there. Before that camera was taken, the date was the 9th or before.

Yep ..that is when the story changed. After LE showed Cindy the pics.

jmo

[kakax]

Cindy went into a long explanation about why she thought that FD was on the 9th, since it is always on the second Sunday in June, but obviously this year it wasn't, it was the 3rd Sunday, yak, yak, yak.
Where is that tape?
Cindy's testimony at the 1st Bond Hearing perhaps?
At any rate, she over-explained the error in my opinion.
So yeah, I've got to agree that they had all agreed on June 9 as being the date that Caylee was seen.

I have thought about over emphasizing every little thing that Casey says. However, I don't think that it is at all normal or common place for Casey to speak of Caylee in the past tense while talking about her health or things she likes. As a mom, I don't speak of my children in the past tense, unless it is about something that they are unlikely to do again - such as a special, once in a lifetime vacation. Going to the park and playing - a normal, everyday kind of activity for a mother and child - the past tense sounds really wrong to me.
Could just be mine.

Anyway, I have read those interviews several times. The impact I got today while listening was electrifying! I thought that the detectives were great. :patriot:

I couldn't stand up to them even if I was innocent.

They were incredible. The patience they showed is unbelievable. They gave her so many outs, were sympathetic at times, always respectful. They did everything they could. Was she placed under arrest right after this interview - before they even left the building? I can't remember now if they allowed her to go home first.

[OneUp]

Someone please explain to me how she can be caught in the lie about her job, and yet continue on for the rest of the interview explaining the many homes of ZG that Caylee stayed at, and how she did not know the roommates of ZG because they worked an opposite schedule of Casey? Who by the way also mentioned working late from time to time.Because she is just not all that bright, and she can't figure out that one lie depends upon the other for support.
Pull out one card and the entire house crumbles. She probably also has trouble remembering which lie she tells which person. I can't remember who, but at least one peer interviewed talked about Casey saying things that don't make sense...probably times she switched stories midstream cause she forgot what she had already said.
That has been my experience with liars who aren't very smart or who aren't very experienced.
IMO anyway

[Boxer]

I wouldn't really worry msjoni...Kristina's testimony is really only relevant as to the date when she claims Casey brought Caylee over and they all went for a walk. She doens't have much bearing on the facts surrounding the real crux of the case, other than to perhaps offer character testimony during the sentencing phase.

In the trial of Robert Blake, a witness sold his story to a paper like that, then turned around and testified against his own father. Cole McClarty was that witness. Seems Blake got off.:shrug:

I don't like it when people sell their stories but I think she can still testify to what she knows.

[True2Blues]

I wouldn't really worry msjoni...Kristina's testimony is really only relevant as to the date when she claims Casey brought Caylee over and they all went for a walk. She doens't have much bearing on the facts surrounding the real crux of the case, other than to perhaps offer character testimony during the sentencing phase.

Is she the one who said they all went for a walk on the 12th, 13th or 14th?

[forpsystudent]

On the third tape. Making me so sick. barf

It is so much different listening to it than reading it, isn't it??

Oh poor little Caylee. :rose:



Spiritwolf46:


ITA. Reading the transcript didn't affect me this much. I feel like a skin crawly thing. Ugh. JMO

[jakee]

Within a month, they moved to North Carolina, New York, back to J'Ville, and then Japan. Casey had their number and was in contact with them. They switched from ATT, Verizon, and finally, Alltell. Then Casey lost her phone:D


Is that not believable? :D

[crymeariver2006]

Cindy and Caylee had spent the night with Ricardo on the 9th, through the morning of the 10th.

Whoa! Cindy spent the night with Ricardo???

Well, here's to you Mrs. Robinson!

:beer:

(Just kiddin' widya)

[spiritwolf46]

Makes sense to me. Intentional. My thoughts exactly. :)

The fact that Cindy, George and Lee actually *worked out* their stories about the 9th being the last date they saw Caylee.

I've been operating under the assumption that the Anthonys are lying mostly out of habit, being under extreme stress, trying to protect Casey, etc. None of those are good reasons to lie - no reason is a good reason to lie - but they are all relatively benign reasons in comparison to the thought that the 3 of them sat down and actually made sure their dates were jiving.

That's ... intentional. I guess I haven't really wanted to contemplate that they are covering up something more sinister than just obstructing the investigation.

Now I'm really wondering. Hope that makes sense. Like I said -- my thinking is still a bit muddled on all this.

This is EXACTLY what I think, too! There was little doubt in my mind that they knew the truth, but after hearing these tapes (better than reading cuz ya miss stuff) I am SURE that they knew and, got together and got their dates. Only thing is, it will bite 'em in the arse down the road, I think. Oh well, good nuff for em.

JMO, of course!

[SavannahStar]

Within a month, they moved to North Carolina, New York, back to J'Ville, and then Japan. Casey had their number and was in contact with them. They switched from ATT, Verizon, and finally, Alltell. Then Casey lost her phone:D

:lol:That sounds so funny when you put it all out like that.

[purplepoints]

I posted on the end of the other thread, then realized there is a new thread, so I will say it again.

Listening to LE talk about Caylee's decompossing body and being in the trash or buried, just about killed me. But not Casey, she showed no emotion whatsoever. Even if her ZFG story was true, that should have bothered her.

I wish, LE had asked her "We have already established that you are not employed, so if why did you drop Caylee off at the nanny's?"

[True2Blues]

LOL. They'd smoke that baby. Probably make the lights flicker and dim throughout the building. :D

:lol: I truly believe that would happen.

[joolz]

In the trial of Robert Blake, a witness sold his story to a paper like that, then turned around and testified against his own father. Cole McClarty was that witness. Seems Blake got off.:shrug:

I don't like it when people sell their stories but I think she can still testify to what she knows.


IIRC it happened in OJ too. A woman who said she had nearly had a car collision with OJ near the condo in Brentwood right around the time of the murders sold her story and never got to testify.

[kakax]

It was Kristina,and now she won't be a credible witness....:mad:



Look at this picture of Casey....sends chills up my spine...

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

[SavannahStar]

After listening to the tapes I wonder if LE was surprised they couldn't crack her.

Good point! I wish I had that bang-your-head-on-the-brick-wall smilie.....I bet that's what they felt like.

[spiritwolf46]

Spiritwolf46:


ITA. Reading the transcript didn't affect me this much. I feel like a skin crawly thing. Ugh. JMO

You and me both. The coldness of it all........neck hairs are standing straight up. I could have come through this computer when she started laughing about the chairs being uncomfortable. REALLY Casey? How uncomfortable to you suppose your baby has been all this time?

GGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!! hammer

[bchand]

I wouldn't really worry msjoni...Kristina's testimony is really only relevant as to the date when she claims Casey brought Caylee over and they all went for a walk. She doens't have much bearing on the facts surrounding the real crux of the case, other than to perhaps offer character testimony during the sentencing phase.

I was hoping they could play the jail tapes to show how concerned Kristina was over this missing baby compared to Casey saying "whoa, calling you guys was such a waste."

[penguinlady]

ok..I KNOW that this has to have been addressed-probably many times..but while listening to Casey and the "phone call she recieved from Caylee". What phone did Caylee call (wasn't Casey's disconnected at that time?) and if she had that phone with her couldn't they trace the number??

Please don't hammer me..I am just confused again!

TIA!!!!
K!

[happy2bme]

I can only imagine what it will be like in the Anthony house this weekend after these tapes were released.

They only thought they had protestors before.

[Armchairdet]

:lol:That sounds so funny when you put it all out like that.

It does. I wonder if she knows how silly she sounds when she says stuff like that.

She knows all these odd details, but so few important details.

[trich]

One would also think that Cindy, during the month she didn't see or speak to Caylee, would have been obsessing over every detail or clue. I'm sure she would have noted and gone back to that last day over and over.
JMO.



Also according to the great grandmother when she , Cindy and Caylee left the nursing home they went to her house to eat.
so how do you forget when that happened?

[True2Blues]

I would bet that she has a juvenile record -- shoplifting and probably more of the same (check fraud, etc)
If LE asks you if you stole something, and you say no, and they can't prove it - nothing happens to you. I wonder if this scenario played itself out in Casey's juvenile years.

I've wondered about that myself. Those records are all closed now, but I think there must be something in there just from some offhand comments that were made.

Like the one Sheriff who said something about Casey's past, and Cindy wanted an apology and he laughed and said, "She isn't getting one."

[crymeariver2006]

I wouldn't really worry msjoni...Kristina's testimony is really only relevant as to the date when she claims Casey brought Caylee over and they all went for a walk. She doens't have much bearing on the facts surrounding the real crux of the case, other than to perhaps offer character testimony during the sentencing phase.


ITA. Especially if it's the same girl in the phone call to the house. She's crying and Casey says "Oh My God....calling you guys....huge waste".

Then it's not gonna matter to the jury what she sold or for how much.

Baez will make an issue out of it for sure, but I don't think he's gonna get anywhere with it.

[msgatorslayer]

Is that not believable? :D

I wanna hammer her over the head. She can remember where everyone lived, where they moved, to and from, which cell providers they had, but can't remember anyones actual phone number.

If this was in the 80's, she really would say that Dumbo ate her phone book.

[Boxer]

Mom Cindy never able to forgive


oops mistake! even if I had my car in perfect condition...then changed to under perfect conditions

[penguinlady]

[QUOTE=greylover;12107150]

**snippped**
I am sooooo certain that LE has tons of stuff we haven't heard yet and will be amazed when we do..

I said this the other day, and I'll say it again - Casey has been lying to amateurs her whole life. On the day she gave these interviews she started lying to professionals, and that will be her demise. I believe SHE believes she pulls the wool over everyone's eyes. Not any more.



I completely agree with this! She has been lying to amateurs and people that will buy into her lies...


K!

[trich]

ok..I KNOW that this has to have been addressed-probably many times..but while listening to Casey and the "phone call she recieved from Caylee". What phone did Caylee call (wasn't Casey's disconnected at that time?) and if she had that phone with her couldn't they trace the number??

Please don't hammer me..I am just confused again!

TIA!!!!
K!


I believe the LE said there is no record of that call.

[ruth66]

One more thing before I go...

Regarding the family's story being fishy, at the bond hearing all three (GA, CA & Lee) were asked what kind of a mother Casey was. They all said virtually the same thing. Casey gets down eye level with Caylee and talks to her blah..blah...blah. It seemed so practiced. I know if my parents and siblings were asked that question they would agree that I am a good mother (of course ;)) but I don't think they would all use the same example to describe it....

Anyone else catch that or is it common and I am way out there?

JMO

[joolz]

I've wondered about that myself. Those records are all closed now, but I think there must be something in there just from some offhand comments that were made.

Like the one Sheriff who said something about Casey's past, and Cindy wanted an apology and he laughed and said, "She isn't getting one."


She wanted an apology? The Anthony sense of entitlement is mind-boggling. :eek:

[Boxer]

Also according to the great grandmother when she , Cindy and Caylee left the nursing home they went to her house to eat.
so how do you forget when that happened?

you purposely mislead:D

[anyonesguess]

One would also think that Cindy, during the month she didn't see or speak to Caylee, would have been obsessing over every detail or clue. I'm sure she would have noted and gone back to that last day over and over.
JMO.


Exactly ONEUP. I still cannot figure out why they came to the date of the 9th. I am sure they have their reason, I just wish I could figure it out.

[True2Blues]

ok..I KNOW that this has to have been addressed-probably many times..but while listening to Casey and the "phone call she recieved from Caylee". What phone did Caylee call (wasn't Casey's disconnected at that time?) and if she had that phone with her couldn't they trace the number??

Please don't hammer me..I am just confused again!

TIA!!!!
K!

Casey kept saying that some of the numbers she was called from were out of service when she tried to call back. I'm not sure if that call was one of them, but apparently the phone company is running around taking every phone "Zanny" uses out of service, the moment she hangs up.

[forpsystudent]

You and me both. The coldness of it all........neck hairs are standing straight up. I could have come through this computer when she started laughing about the chairs being uncomfortable. REALLY Casey? How uncomfortable to you suppose your baby has been all this time?

GGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!! hammer


And the relief in her voice when she thought she had them when they started chuckling along with her. Oh, the Anthony's are going to busy tonight. JMO

[Sweetly]

WOW :eek: She is a complete and total accomplished liar! UNBELIEVABLE how she maintains these lies. I am just blown away! I am completely convinced the entire family is in "defend Casey at ALL costs" mode and I am completely amazed that any family would do so! This is sick beyond words!

It is so clear to me that Caylee is no longer with us. There is just no way she could be after my listening to all eight tapes! And, I am convinced she died at the hands of Casey! The detectives are so right when they say COLD, CALLOUS, LIAR! Add to this, MURDERESS of her own innocent child!!!!

[OneUp]

Because she couldn't keep track of theirlie of the 9th

imoI keep coming back to the "use" of the 9th originally as the date last seen. I wonder if it hinges on the fact that others saw Casey with Caylee and thus they couldn't go further back in time OR If just maybe somehow the 9th of JULY was the actual last date. The problem with that is where was Caylee all that time though?...that's what keeps me believing that June 9th was just the furthest date back that they could agree upon to pick in the short time they had to get a semi-cohesive story together. I am convinced that the use of the 9th of June was a flat out lie on the part of every member of that family, not one doubt.
JMO.

[Marianne]

[QUOTE=Armchairdet;12107099]Which is another reason her pretending Caylee was with a nanny while she was working does not compute. For instance, she went to pick her up after work...and was going to then take her where? What were the plans? Who was expecting them? Where did she end up going that night? Was she upset? Was she upset at 'work' the next day?

IMO[/QUOTE

Maybe george was lying when he screamed "the dead body in my car was not the body of my granddaughter" because it is the only way he can protect Cassey...no body she walks. It also gives him the excuse for cleaning the car with chloroform as he can claim he wasnt tampering with evidence just getting rid of a bad smell.

On Father's Day that is when the neighbors heard the Anthony's fighting. Had Cassey already stolen her grandparents funds? Is that what they were fighting about? If so maybe Cindy was avoiding that date so as not to further convict her daughter. How much money was in the fund? In what form did Cassey have the money...a check or cash?

She could have done a lot for herself and for Caylee with that money if she had wanted to. Instead she seems to have spent it on friviolities continuing to mooch off her friends not thinking about tomorrow, just waiting till her money ran out and finding the next victim. She was becoming a common crook...a professional one...making it her livlihood. just a cold hard person.

[forpsystudent]

Exactly ONEUP. I still cannot figure out why they came to the date of the 9th. I am sure they have their reason, I just wish I could figure it out.



I originally thought it had to do with TOD.
Now I think it is the one day they all have alibis for IMO.

[True2Blues]

She wanted an apology? The Anthony sense of entitlement is mind-boggling. :eek:

Isn't it just.

[101Spots]

After listening to the tapes I wonder if LE was surprised they couldn't crack her.

I only wish they had had more time and more tries at her. If they couldn't crack her, at least they would have had more incriminating evidence.

And we would have had more to chew over, too! :D

[bluwaters]

Welp the Det. was right about people would crucify her for this.
They prophesied that!
They told her that she would look like a cold, callous monster.
They told her that she would cause lots of problems and pain for many people.
They told her that it would go much better for her if she just told them what happened and where to find Caylee.
They even said that they would try to help her so it wouldn't be so bad for her. Did she not catch that?
Those guys knew where this was going to go if she tried to stick with her lies.
Casey is so arrogant that she thought she would get away with this.

I think that her jerking them around and their compassion for Caylee has made this very personal for LE.
For the first time, I think that LE wants to see her face the DP.
I haven't thought that the DA would go for that until hearing those tapes today.

Now I think that they are making such a show of the economic charges for several reasons.

First, to be able to incarcerate her for a long time while they take their time to build a murder case. They don't need Caylee's body, but it would certainly help to take away any remnant of reasonable doubt.

Secondly, to make it very clear that Casey Anthony is a hardened criminal. She won't look like a Melanie McGuire who never did anything wrong before in her life. They are showing how hard hearted Casey is, ripping off friends and family, even her grandfather's ALF funds!

A woman who could kill her own 3 year old child and not flinch.
Casey Anthony is a dangerous person.

:chicken:

[jakee]

I believe the LE said there is no record of that call.

Doesn't Cindy have records that she told NG about that dispute LE? Not sure which calls she was talking about though. IMO

[crymeariver2006]

The fact that Cindy, George and Lee actually *worked out* their stories about the 9th being the last date they saw Caylee.

I've been operating under the assumption that the Anthonys are lying mostly out of habit, being under extreme stress, trying to protect Casey, etc. None of those are good reasons to lie - no reason is a good reason to lie - but they are all relatively benign reasons in comparison to the thought that the 3 of them sat down and actually made sure their dates were jiving.

That's ... intentional. I guess I haven't really wanted to contemplate that they are covering up something more sinister than just obstructing the investigation.

Now I'm really wondering. Hope that makes sense. Like I said -- my thinking is still a bit muddled on all this.

I agree. Lots went on long before the police were called.

Lots.

And waaaaaaaaaay long before the police were called.

JMO

[purplepoints]

One more thing before I go...

Regarding the family's story being fishy, at the bond hearing all three (GA, CA & Lee) were asked what kind of a mother Casey was. They all said virtually the same thing. Casey gets down eye level with Caylee and talks to her blah..blah...blah. It seemed so practiced. I know if my parents and siblings were asked that question they would agree that I am a good mother (of course ;)) but I don't think they would all use the same example to describe it....

Anyone else catch that or is it common and I am way out there?

JMO

I thought it strange too, that they couldn't each come up with something different, like, "you know, like my wife said, she got down on Caylee's level, but she also thought the world of that baby, tucked her in every night, read her a bed time story, made sure she brushed her teeth..." I don't know, something, anything.

[msjoni]

In the trial of Robert Blake, a witness sold his story to a paper like that, then turned around and testified against his own father. Cole McClarty was that witness. Seems Blake got off.:shrug:

I don't like it when people sell their stories but I think she can still testify to what she knows.

I keep thinking about the OJ case. The people who sold their stories to tabloids were considered not credible....

[spiritwolf46]

And the relief in her voice when she thought she had them when they started chuckling along with her. Oh, the Anthony's are going to busy tonight. JMO

They sure are going to be busy tonight! It is what it is Anthony's.

[joolz]

One more thing before I go...

Regarding the family's story being fishy, at the bond hearing all three (GA, CA & Lee) were asked what kind of a mother Casey was. They all said virtually the same thing. Casey gets down eye level with Caylee and talks to her blah..blah...blah. It seemed so practiced. I know if my parents and siblings were asked that question they would agree that I am a good mother (of course ;)) but I don't think they would all use the same example to describe it....

Anyone else catch that or is it common and I am way out there?

JMO

Good catch. More prior agreement about just what to say about things when questioned. It's like criminals who recount their alibis word for word each time - a sign that it's fabricated. Ugh, what a bunch of horrors.

[bluwaters]

After listening to the tapes I wonder if LE was surprised they couldn't crack her.

I bet they were more than surprised, they were pizzed. :flamemad:

[concernedmom]

They prophesied that!
They told her that she would look like a cold, callous monster.
They told her that she would cause lots of problems and pain for many people.
They told her that it would go much better for her if she just told them what happened and where to find Caylee.
They even said that they would try to help her so it wouldn't be so bad for her. Did she not catch that?
Those guys knew where this was going to go if she tried to stick with her lies.
Casey is so arrogant that she thought she would get away with this.

I think that her jerking them around and their compassion for Caylee has made this very personal for LE.
For the first time, I think that LE wants to see her face the DP.
I haven't thought that the DA would go for that until hearing those tapes today.

Now I think that they are making such a show of the economic charges for several reasons.

First, to be able to incarcerate her for a long time while they take their time to build a murder case. They don't need Caylee's body, but it would certainly help to take away any remnant of reasonable doubt.

Secondly, to make it very clear that Casey Anthony is a hardened criminal. She won't look like a Melanie McGuire who never did anything wrong before in her life. They are showing how hard hearted Casey is, ripping off friends and family, even her grandfather's ALF funds!

A woman who could kill her own 3 year old child and not flinch.
Casey Anthony is a dangerous person.

:chicken:

:beer: bravo.

[spiritwolf46]

WOW :eek: She is a complete and total accomplished liar! UNBELIEVABLE how she maintains these lies. I am just blown away! I am completely convinced the entire family is in "defend Casey at ALL costs" mode and I am completely amazed that any family would do so! This is sick beyond words!

It is so clear to me that Caylee is no longer with us. There is just no way she could be after my listening to all eight tapes! And, I am convinced she died at the hands of Casey! The detectives are so right when they say COLD, CALLOUS, LIAR! Add to this, MURDERESS of her own innocent child!!!!


Here...here!!!! :beer: I completely agree! Makes me SO darned mad and sick! This THING killed her baby and has NO remorse at all.

Always a believer in what goes around, comes around. Gotta keep that belief in this insane case.

:rose: For CAYLEE

[msgatorslayer]

Doesn't Cindy have records that she told NG about that dispute LE? Not sure which calls she was talking about though. IMO

Dispute LE! Thats funny!! [laughing santa]

It's all a set up cause they can't find Zanny. Must close the case. Backup plan - it's the Mom. They don't want the community to fear a crazy nanny on the loose.

[kitty1182]

They prophesied that!
They told her that she would look like a cold, callous monster.
They told her that she would cause lots of problems and pain for many people.
They told her that it would go much better for her if she just told them what happened and where to find Caylee.
They even said that they would try to help her so it wouldn't be so bad for her. Did she not catch that?
Those guys knew where this was going to go if she tried to stick with her lies.
Casey is so arrogant that she thought she would get away with this.

I think that her jerking them around and their compassion for Caylee has made this very personal for LE.
For the first time, I think that LE wants to see her face the DP.
I haven't thought that the DA would go for that until hearing those tapes today.

Now I think that they are making such a show of the economic charges for several reasons.

First, to be able to incarcerate her for a long time while they take their time to build a murder case. They don't need Caylee's body, but it would certainly help to take away any remnant of reasonable doubt.

Secondly, to make it very clear that Casey Anthony is a hardened criminal. She won't look like a Melanie McGuire who never did anything wrong before in her life. They are showing how hard hearted Casey is, ripping off friends and family, even her grandfather's ALF funds!

A woman who could kill her own 3 year old child and not flinch.
Casey Anthony is a dangerous person.

:chicken:

She is a very dangerous person..

[Broderick]

Doesn't Cindy have records that she told NG about that dispute LE? Not sure which calls she was talking about though. IMO

And NG asked her to release them. She stuttered and changed subjects if I recall. She may have a record on her phone going to Casey's voice mail if Casey's phone was off and there would be no record on Casey's phone was my only thought. That would be another lie that could be proven with phone records because I am sure they keep track at the phone company if you leave voice mail on a powered down phone.

[WillowInFlight]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

[Regina.Lampert]

I agree. Lots went on long before the police were called.

Lots.

And waaaaaaaaaay long before the police were called.

JMO

Uh, oh......you, SayWhat and Forpsy really have me shocked at what's in the released audio. :eek: I gots some catching up to do.

[spiritwolf46]

They prophesied that!
They told her that she would look like a cold, callous monster.
They told her that she would cause lots of problems and pain for many people.
They told her that it would go much better for her if she just told them what happened and where to find Caylee.
They even said that they would try to help her so it wouldn't be so bad for her. Did she not catch that?
Those guys knew where this was going to go if she tried to stick with her lies.
Casey is so arrogant that she thought she would get away with this.

I think that her jerking them around and their compassion for Caylee has made this very personal for LE.
For the first time, I think that LE wants to see her face the DP.
I haven't thought that the DA would go for that until hearing those tapes today.

Now I think that they are making such a show of the economic charges for several reasons.

First, to be able to incarcerate her for a long time while they take their time to build a murder case. They don't need Caylee's body, but it would certainly help to take away any remnant of reasonable doubt.

Secondly, to make it very clear that Casey Anthony is a hardened criminal. She won't look like a Melanie McGuire who never did anything wrong before in her life. They are showing how hard hearted Casey is, ripping off friends and family, even her grandfather's ALF funds!

A woman who could kill her own 3 year old child and not flinch.
Casey Anthony is a dangerous person.

:chicken:

GREAT post, blu! :beer:

[5boxersmom]

About the 9th. Remember when it first came out George told LE that family friends saw Caylee at a shopping center on the 12th. Who were these people? Who was Caylee with on the 12th if not Casey? Is this just another lie told to LE?

Then you don't hear anymore about it after the date of the 15th comes out. I still want to know who the family friends were and who Caylee was with on the 12th.hammer

Caylee:rose:

[True2Blues]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

Yes she did. After she'd been told that other officers had checked her initial stories and found them to all be lies.

[concernedmom]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

You heard right.:biggrin:

[Armchairdet]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

Yeah, I heard that. Probably while she was dating Brad Pitt. :rolleyes:

[Boxer]

And NG asked her to release them. She stuttered and changed subjects if I recall. She may have a record on her phone going to Casey's voice mail if Casey's phone was off and there would be no record on Casey's phone was my only thought. That would be another lie that could be proven with phone records because I am sure they keep track at the phone company if you leave voice mail on a powered down phone.



I'm wondering if George and Cindy didn't hire a criminal defense attorney bacause their own cell phone records have been asked for by LE

[spiritwolf46]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

Yep! you heard it right.
How can that be when she never graduated from high school? I don't think that she ever got her GED, did she? Yet, another lie that so easily fell out of her cold, miserable mouth. Unreal!

[SavannahStar]

I believe the LE said there is no record of that call.


Correct. They listed the two closest calls in time to when that call supposedly occurred, and who those two calls were from. For some reason I can only recall one of them, a friend named "Kyle." Anyway, NO call when she said it came in, and not from Zanny.

[Broderick]

You heard right.:biggrin:


She stole bits and pieces of her life past and present from people she knew. In this case with her so-called "college" it was a girl Kiomarie iirc.

[msgatorslayer]

She wanted an apology? The Anthony sense of entitlement is mind-boggling. :eek:

Yup. And in the bond hearing, the State asked Cindy if it was true that she told LE she wouldn't cooperate with them unless they allowed Casey out of jail. She got annoyed, IIRC, then backspun, only saying that she may have said SOMETHING like that.

[forpsystudent]

They sure are going to be busy tonight! It is what it is Anthony's.


You got that right. Still, scary thought about what might happen. Is it me or does LE release a little "something" about every 2-2.5 days? I haven't looked at the timeline of their releases but it sure does feel like they're trying to out-psych her. JMO

[OneUp]

Why haven't the 2 guys who helped push her car into the parking lot come forward? Might they be invisible too?

I guess I should say, I have not heard of them coming forward yet. IMOBecause they don't exist of course.;)
I think if, big IF, the car was out of gas ( yes, i know George took gas to the tow yard, etc....it probably was out) that she probably drove it until close to empty, knew she had to abandon it soon and it either DID run out at the Amscot, or she let it idle till it ran out figuring the Amscot parking lot was a good place to allow it to get stolen.
Maybe she picked there because she thought Cindy would see it on the way to work and think the worst.
I'm still having a feeling that she intended at one point to "go missing". maybe she just didn't have it all set up yet? maybe Cindy found her too soon, or not enough $$$ yet, or if the marine in Ca. was her next stop then maybe she didn't have that all set up yet.(the only reason I see for her to have contacted him out of the blue...he was her new hidey hole).
I still have a couple of options on how she meant things to go down eventually. But I'm sure it was Cindy that put a kink in her plans. Cindy found her, went bonkers and got the police involved, then they all had to figure out how to try to minimize the damage after the 911 call so casey wouldn't be "lost" too. I see both of these females as pretty emotionally remote and cold, easily able to "switchoff" any feelings long enough to deal with the situation. Casey prob. doesn' have any real upset over caylee, and Cindy may just be able to shift to control mode long enough to get through a temporary amount of a crisis ( I can do that even in the worst circumstances, and generally keep my composure in public. It is part of my coping mechanisms from my childhood...I'm the one who "fixes" things).
JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

They prophesied that!
They told her that she would look like a cold, callous monster.
They told her that she would cause lots of problems and pain for many people.
They told her that it would go much better for her if she just told them what happened and where to find Caylee.
They even said that they would try to help her so it wouldn't be so bad for her. Did she not catch that?
Those guys knew where this was going to go if she tried to stick with her lies.
Casey is so arrogant that she thought she would get away with this.

I think that her jerking them around and their compassion for Caylee has made this very personal for LE.
For the first time, I think that LE wants to see her face the DP.
I haven't thought that the DA would go for that until hearing those tapes today.

Now I think that they are making such a show of the economic charges for several reasons.

First, to be able to incarcerate her for a long time while they take their time to build a murder case. They don't need Caylee's body, but it would certainly help to take away any remnant of reasonable doubt.

Secondly, to make it very clear that Casey Anthony is a hardened criminal. She won't look like a Melanie McGuire who never did anything wrong before in her life. They are showing how hard hearted Casey is, ripping off friends and family, even her grandfather's ALF funds!

A woman who could kill her own 3 year old child and not flinch.
Casey Anthony is a dangerous person.

:chicken:

Wow!!! Good for LE to have released these audios, I am in full agreement with this strategy. People need to hear this for themselves. Off to listen now....................:chicken:

[crymeariver2006]

Uh, oh......you, SayWhat and Forpsy really have me shocked at what's in the released audio. :eek: I gots some catching up to do.

Well catch up!

:D

[Larkin]

Did I hear right on tape 7 Casey said she went to college for a year and a half?

Yes, Valencia....she told TonE that too.

[WillowInFlight]

Yeah, I heard that. Probably while she was dating Brad Pitt. :rolleyes:

:lol: It's just amazing how her answers come so readily. I'd be stuttering and tripping over my tongue. She's a very seasoned liar.

[girlspell]

Yes, Valencia....she told TonE that too.


She might have told everyone that, but she never finished high school. Correct?

[WillowInFlight]

Wow!!! Good for LE to have released these audios, I am in full agreement with this strategy. People need to hear this for themselves. Off to listen now....................:chicken:

I just wish I could see her facial expressions.

[msjoni]

It's conceivable the Kristina person would not make a great witness in any event. She got very upset very quickly on the phone call with Casey -- sort of an immediate meltdown. Either she was very suspicious of what Casey was capable of (which none of the rest of her friends seemed to be initially), or she's, shall we say ... a very emotional individual. Either way, it might not have played well on the stand.

When I heard Kristina on that 1st police tape, I thought she was the most credible and/or the most sincere...:shrug:

[kitty1182]

:lol: It's just amazing how her answers come so readily. I'd be stuttering and tripping over my tongue. She's a very seasoned liar.

She's so good she could sell me a vaccumn cleaner..

[crymeariver2006]

I'd say there's about a 100% probability C and G hired a criminal defense attorney for good reason -- and that good reason was NOT so that he could mount his ill-conceived, short-lived, utterly dull 'media blitz' in order to change the public's mind about the Anthonys.

Yeah, whatever became of that media blitz?

:shrug:

Did he really think he could rehabilitate the Anthonys into Ward and June Cleaver?

[Boxer]

Ain't it great? :Dyes, except for the part where they keep releasing Casey:D

[Boxer]

I'm wondering, also, if LE doesn't have pinging proof that Casey was not at the Anthony's home at 12:50pm on June 16th.


great idea!

[msgatorslayer]

I just wish I could see her facial expressions.

I do too. But I have a feeling she was as smooth looking as she sounded. Completely different than Mom, Cindy. Scratching her arms, putting her hand through her hair, and itching her chest while on the stand for the bond hearing.

[Larkin]

She might have told everyone that, but she never finished high school. Correct?

Yep, she never graduated H.S.

[crymeariver2006]

I just wish I could see her facial expressions.


Can you imagine? Grinning ear to ear, trying to show some cleavage...

She was just surprised that none of them wanted to take her right then and there on the conference table.

JMO :D

[Broderick]

AND -- the 9th would have been where LE and Tim (TES) would have been searching Casey's pings instead of the correct day.


They might be hiding another date. George came up with the food channel carp from the 16th. The flurry of unanswered calls might lead back to that date but who is to say there isn't another date - like when wheel chucks were needed and gas cans were stolen that are really the important dates. If, let's say she was chloroforming the kid at night, going out on the town after the 16th and she really killed the kid on a later date, but the family wanted it backtracked for investigation purposes to the 9th and got tripped up with the father's day pictures.

[OneUp]

It was Kristina,and now she won't be a credible witness....:mad:Given how upset Kristina got in that jailhouse phone call, I doubt she could be much of a witness anyway. I'm betting her emotions are in shreds right now. If she did sell that story, it is IMO bacause she is enraged and appallled at this whole mess.
Maybe she had nothing relevant to the case to add anyway? If she was a material witness, I would think LE would have cautioned her against talking to the media, it appears other s are avoiding talking.
She did seem to come to believe Casey may have harmed Caylee pretty quickly in that call in the jail..."if anything has happened to (my?) baby..."
JMO.
*do I have the right Kristina though? are there two? I've seen two spellings of the name.
* also, not sure of the quote and holding my own baby, can't get to links to check readily.

[bluwaters]

Look at this picture of Casey....sends chills up my spine...

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

Scaaaaaryyy! :eek:
I think it's photoshopped though. It looks like a composite of a few different pics I've seen.
Cruella DeVille never looked so good.

This is a very freaky YouTube video of Casey by a wickedly talented woman who is very good with shape-shifting photos.
It scared me too much to watch the whole thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM

[concernedmom]

I'm wondering, also, if LE doesn't have pinging proof that Casey was not at the Anthony's home at 12:50pm on June 16th.

I have never believed that one.

[msgatorslayer]

I'm wondering, also, if LE doesn't have pinging proof that Casey was not at the Anthony's home at 12:50pm on June 16th.

LE has alot of everything, I think. Just waiting on something to tie Casey to certain things or find Caylee. I hope, anyway.:)

[happy2bme]

Have a good weekend everyone! bye:seeya:

[forpsystudent]

I'm wondering if George and Cindy didn't hire a criminal defense attorney bacause their own cell phone records have been asked for by LE



Could be.
When did Cindy and George stop visiting the OCSD?

[crymeariver2006]

Given how upset Kristina got in that jailhouse phone call, I doubt she could be much of a witness anyway. I'm betting her emotions are in shreds right now. If she did sell that story, it is IMO bacause she is enraged and appallled at this whole mess.
Maybe she had nothing relevant to the case to add anyway? If she was a material witness, I would think LE would have cautioned her against talking to the media, it appears other s are avoiding talking.
She did seem to come to believe Casey may have harmed Caylee pretty quickly in that call in the jail..."if anything has happened to (my?) baby..."
JMO.
*do I have the right Kristina though? are there two? I've seen two spellings of the name.
* also, not sure of the quote and holding my own baby, can't get to links to check readily.

*Here, let me hold the baby.......

[penguinlady]

Something strange....Casey said that the nanny wasn't on the Dr.s approved list for treatment of Caylee.

When my SIL watched my ds, she was on the list, so just in case something happened and I (or my dh) couldn't be reached she could take him to the doctor.

I just think that is odd...

Of course..we all know that there wasn't a nanny! :eek:

[Boxer]

Could be.
When did Cindy and George stop visiting the OCSD?

wasn't it around the time Tim Miller showed up