View Full Version : Caylee Anthony 09-12-08 A.M thread
need2no
09-12-2008, 10:31 AM
Looks like someone has shown up with a big sign at the Anthony home.
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 10:33 AM
Thanks to all for the cam link..:)
Somebody is out by the billboard. woman in a tank top, must be Cindy. LOL
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 10:33 AM
Good morning! Here's the NG transcript, if you like.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/11/ng.01.html
Thanks Joan:seeya:
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233
"MONSTER mom Casey Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, and fed the girl's body to the gators in Florida's swamps! That's the chilling claim by the Orlando crime suspect's best friend, who rips the lid off Casey's secret life - and her beliefs about the tragic toddler's grim end - in a shocking GLOBE world exclusive that will leave you in tears."
Didnt know if anyone saw this..makes me sick to even see her on the cover of a trashy mag. (jmo)
OMG and how does this "best friend" know that Casey fed Caylee to the gators in the swamps? I don't know whether to laugh or cry...oh that Globe. Reporting at it's finest. :rolleyes:
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233
"MONSTER mom Casey Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, and fed the girl's body to the gators in Florida's swamps! That's the chilling claim by the Orlando crime suspect's best friend, who rips the lid off Casey's secret life - and her beliefs about the tragic toddler's grim end - in a shocking GLOBE world exclusive that will leave you in tears."
Didnt know if anyone saw this..makes me sick to even see her on the cover of a trashy mag. (jmo)
Doesn't GLOBE pay people for their stories? I don't think anyone should be making money of Cayle's death but I think Amy should make money off Casey. It's the only way she will get her money back that Casey stole. I don't buy trash mags but I might this time to see what Amy has to say. I'm assuming it's Amy that was her best friend they are talking about?
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
I believe they have a timeline for that from the friends boyfriend and roomates an Target video and cell calls. they probably have other information to help them narrow down a timeline too. IMOThanks, Rebel. Hope all those busy party animals and students have good memories. I couldn't tell ya what I was doing a month ago....imo
need2no
09-12-2008, 10:34 AM
Somebody is out by the billboard.
I believe it's Cindy...but I can't tell what she is doing.
num1barb
09-12-2008, 10:35 AM
OR the water cooler at Baez's office. :D
I'd rather it be at the anthony home...that way when they go out to confront protestors and a protestor shouts "where is Caylee" then they'd have to give an honest answer whether they wanted to or not :)
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Somebody is out by the billboard. woman in a tank top, must be Cindy. LOL
It does look like her...
BobbysGirl
09-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Good Morning, Trying to catch up here.
So, If I read correctly, Casey is spending her days at Baez office. She has no job. Anthonys have no monies. How is she paying her lawyer?
I think Baez has hired her as an Office Gopher Girl in exchange for her attorneys fees. Of course, that is MO.
BG
tybek
09-12-2008, 10:36 AM
snipped ...
Casey Anthony is the most cold-hearted person I have ever read about. There doesn't seem to be an ounce of love or compassion in her soul- for anyone. She is just empty inside. When she walks into a room she must bring a cold chill with her. I don't know how her attorney can stand the sight of her, I couldn't. She disgusts me.
Every day when I wake up and see that poor Caylee has yet to be found, I just can't wrap my head around the fact that so many complete strangers have taken this little girl into their hearts- but her own mother has no spot for Caylee in her own heart. I just don't understand.
A while ago I was reading up on the difference between psychopath and sociopath, and one article I read said a bottom line difference is that socio-paths are capable of limited caring for and attachments to persons, whereas psychopaths are incapable of having care or feelings for anyone under any circumstances. They said, for example, a sociopath might lie, cheat, steal from or kill anyone except their grandmother (or latinos, or children, whatever exception person or group they have developed) whereas a psychopath has no exceptions. Using this criteria, I've tried to decide if I'd put Casey in the catergory of socio-path or psychopath. She has not shown care or concern to anyone in her family including her own daughter, imo. But she does seem to have had feelings for Tone and possibly other boyfriends in the past. So what does that make her? Completely unfeeling or a warped socio-path incapable of normal relationships and normal feelings but able to "care" and develop attachments in limited circumstances. I'd say the first because I think she would lie, cheat and steal or harm anyone including her past boyfriends if it served her end goal...in other words, I don't think these "attachments" necessarily indicate true care or deeper feelings. IMO
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 10:36 AM
Looks like someone has shown up with a big sign at the Anthony home.
Yup. It's going to be Groundhog Day from now on. Every day there will be people with signs, Casey taking her daily outing to the Jose Baez Criminal Perp's Day Care Center, one or more of the Anthony family standing outside, blowing up....
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 10:36 AM
Good Morning Everyone Ok will anything BIG happen today?
I hope so. Good to see ya :seeya:
bchand
09-12-2008, 10:37 AM
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233
"MONSTER mom Casey Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, and fed the girl's body to the gators in Florida's swamps! That's the chilling claim by the Orlando crime suspect's best friend, who rips the lid off Casey's secret life - and her beliefs about the tragic toddler's grim end - in a shocking GLOBE world exclusive that will leave you in tears."
Didnt know if anyone saw this..makes me sick to even see her on the cover of a trashy mag. (jmo)
Thanks kOOkie - well they found the perfect picture of Casey for the "monster" tag.
marshmallow
09-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Doesn't GLOBE pay people for their stories? I don't think anyone should be making money of Cayle's death but I think Amy should make money off Casey. It's the only way she will get her money back that Casey stole. I don't buy trash mags but I might this time to see what Amy has to say. I'm assuming it's Amy that was her best friend they are talking about?
it doesn'tsay who it is.
Mizzchiff
09-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Here is a video I found ...the guy states it like it is, he doesn't hold back a thing. Just thought it was good and thoght I would share, watch if you want to....
911 CALL Missing FLorida Toddler (Casey Anthony arrest)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4vI4NgS4Y&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N01iVuc7Uoo
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Doesn't GLOBE pay people for their stories? I don't think anyone should be making money of Cayle's death but I think Amy should make money off Casey. It's the only way she will get her money back that Casey stole. I don't buy trash mags but I might this time to see what Amy has to say. I'm assuming it's Amy that was her best friend they are talking about?
Rumored Kristina.. I think? ...I dont think any of them should be talking right now or being paid too either.~ (jmo)
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Somebody is out by the billboard. woman in a tank top, must be Cindy. LOLLooks like protesters. imo
Mizzchiff
09-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Did anyone notice yesterday during the protestor problem (when Lee supposedly hit one) CA was not wearing a Caylee shirt. She had on jeans and a plain shirt. I thought that was pretty interesting.
She's havin' it modified into a lowcut snug fitting shorty tank top. :chicken:
imo
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Wouldn't all the no trespassing and yellow tape draw more attention?
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
That picture on the billboard really tugs at my heart. Caylee looks like such an angel in that picture.
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Thanks kOOkie - well they found the perfect picture of Casey for the "monster" tag.
..ha no doubt! lol that one looks photo-shopped to me..~
Loves2Read
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233
"MONSTER mom Casey Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, and fed the girl's body to the gators in Florida's swamps! That's the chilling claim by the Orlando crime suspect's best friend, who rips the lid off Casey's secret life - and her beliefs about the tragic toddler's grim end - in a shocking GLOBE world exclusive that will leave you in tears."
Didnt know if anyone saw this..makes me sick to even see her on the cover of a trashy mag. (jmo)
Wow! The picture of Casey and Caylee on the cover was scary! I wonder where that picture came from? Could that be one of the pictures the hairstylist took? Caylee does look like she has a bruise under her eye in the pic. IMO
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Looks like protesters. imo
After watching her she looks to tall to be CA..
cassidy
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Here is a video I found ...the guy states it like it is, he doesn't hold back a thing. Just thought it was good and thoght I would share, watch if you want to....
911 CALL Missing FLorida Toddler (Casey Anthony arrest)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4vI4NgS4Y&NR=1
I watched the video. He is good. And he has some good points too. At one point he asks "who is standing up for Caylee?" Casey has an attorney, GP's have an attorney. The all feel the need to protect themselves...from WHAT?
Regina.Lampert
09-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Why would they refuse if they had nothing to hide? I know if I were innocent I would be begging to take one. Especially If I were being veiwed as they are by the public.
It really looks bad because as we all remember in the beginning of this case cynthia told everyone that casey didn't trust the local LE and would only talk with the FBI. Now of course we learn
that the FBI wanted all of them to take a polygraph and they refused.
And this family wonders why they are turning into one of the most hated families in America?
Does CA have an assitant? Is that who is helping with the sign?
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks, Rebel. Hope all those busy party animals and students have good memories. I couldn't tell ya what I was doing a month ago....imo
I don't know about the others but Nate seemed to have his head on straight and was able to give particular dates or time frames.
I couldn't tell ya what i did a month ago unless it was an important event or something. lol
FrankieBones1
09-12-2008, 10:41 AM
Yup. It's going to be Groundhog Day from now on. Every day there will be people with signs, Casey taking her daily outing to the Jose Baez Criminal Perp's Day Care Center, one or more of the Anthony family standing outside, blowing up....
Quite a few people outside the home. Must be something going on again.
Velouria
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Haven't checked the webcam in a while. I see they've adjusted the camera so that you can see around the billboard quite nicely. Looks like they've got one perched on the neighbor's roof now!
st777jo
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
Could Cindy be putting out a sign asking Casey where is Caylee? Since she isn't allowed to talk to her.
num1barb
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
..ha no doubt! lol that one looks photo-shopped to me..~
Yeah, that's what I thought too. I have noticed in a couple of the pics released of casey and Caylee that to me it looks like casey is forcing a smile for the camera....looks almost like casey is gritting her teeth...and her eyes are too scrunched up MOO
WinnieLeigh7
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
I'm not sure if the same holds true in FL, as it does here, but I imagine they have something 'like this'...
"Pro Bono" attorneys, or attorneys that take cases at no charge to the client, still get benefits and things from the state bar...
Attorneys are required to have IOLTA accounts here, which draw interest, that interest is then taken and put into a fund for those that can not afford their own attorney (mostly public defenders) thus the "you have a right to an attorney, if you can not afford one, one will be provided for you..." type deal
As for Beaz, not only could he be getting this "Pro Bono" credit(s)...
He's making his name very big, in a national case...
The money will come...
If not in through "interviews, opinions, books and movie rights"...
Then through the hourly increase in his rate for becoming "high profile" attorney "Beaz"...(especially if he's able to pull off ANY defense for Casey)...
All, JMO, Always
tashi
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
Good Morning Everyone Ok will anything BIG happen today?
*fingers crossed* I hope so...I'd like Caylee found
But I think it's going to be same old, same old
Protesters going crazy in the streets
The Anthony's flipping out...running down protesters,turning on sprinklers
LE holding onto inside info
And of course, Casey, calm as a cucumber, walking through all the madness with amusement :mad:
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
I also feel sad that the searches have been called off....
*big snip*
I feel that they have her already. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but TE went home in a flurry of trailers and dust. Tim had said he wouldn't leave until she is found. They could have searched the landfill or somewhere dry if it was too wet in places. Then it got silent from LE. No leaks, nothing until charges yesterday. And now they have ended the searches. I'm betting they are waiting on identification through DNA. I'm probably wrong, but a gal can dream. ;-) MOO
SandyO
09-12-2008, 10:42 AM
Good Morning, Trying to catch up here.
So, If I read correctly, Casey is spending her days at Baez office. She has no job. Anthonys have no monies. How is she paying her lawyer?
I think Baez has hired her as an Office Gopher Girl in exchange for her attorneys fees. Of course, that is MO.
BG
I wouldn't be surprised if they're giving her some "busy work" to do, but I'll betcha she's beginning to get bored with the Baez Law Office by now, too. It's better for her than being stuck in the house all day with Cindy, but it's not an ideal situation by a long stretch.
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 10:43 AM
After watching her she looks to tall to be CA..
Yes, I, after due consideration, have come to the conclusion that she is just another woman who happens to be wearing a tank top.
Mizzchiff
09-12-2008, 10:44 AM
Wasn't it just the other day that George was asked to move it, he refused so a neighbor moved it?
If it breaks community rules, code enforcement or the HOA can have it towed and charge the Anthonys (or put a lien on their home)
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:44 AM
I feel that they have her already. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but TE went home in a flurry of trailers and dust. Tim had said he wouldn't leave until she is found. They could have searched the landfill or somewhere dry if it was too wet in places. Then it got silent from LE. No leaks, nothing until charges yesterday. And now they have ended the searches. I'm betting they are waiting on identification through DNA. I'm probably wrong, but a gal can dream. ;-) MOOI think not. The media would be all over that. imo
Any news reports on what was changed on the billboard?
TIA
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 10:45 AM
Could Cindy be putting out a sign asking Casey where is Caylee? Since she isn't allowed to talk to her.
You mean another sign in front of that HUGE bilboard? :biggrin: Take a look. She's not Cindy.
FrankieBones1
09-12-2008, 10:45 AM
I think the billboard might be there so that hopefully, when the camera's are rolling, Caylee's picture might be in the background. Usually though, the camera's are focused on the front of the house and the protesters- not Caylee's picture.I thought it was parked there as a privacy barrier.
Looks like someone holding a large white sign is being interviewed at the Anthony home.
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 10:46 AM
Yes, I, after due consideration, have come to the conclusion that she is just another woman who happens to be wearing a tank top.
LOl..LOL...
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:47 AM
Y'all are welcome for the links. :)
Did Casey leave yet?
Velouria
09-12-2008, 10:47 AM
You mean another sign in front of that HUGE bilboard? :biggrin: Take a look. She's not Cindy.
It can't be. That woman is wearing pants.
bballgrl
09-12-2008, 10:47 AM
I feel that they have her already. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but TE went home in a flurry of trailers and dust. Tim had said he wouldn't leave until she is found. They could have searched the landfill or somewhere dry if it was too wet in places. Then it got silent from LE. No leaks, nothing until charges yesterday. And now they have ended the searches. I'm betting they are waiting on identification through DNA. I'm probably wrong, but a gal can dream. ;-) MOO
I hope you are right Kath... Seems to me that Friday is a great day to spring something like that huh? Crossing fingers and Praying! :rose:
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 10:47 AM
I feel that they have her already. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but TE went home in a flurry of trailers and dust. Tim had said he wouldn't leave until she is found. They could have searched the landfill or somewhere dry if it was too wet in places. Then it got silent from LE. No leaks, nothing until charges yesterday. And now they have ended the searches. I'm betting they are waiting on identification through DNA. I'm probably wrong, but a gal can dream. ;-) MOO
I'm thinking they may have found something during the search near the University if they found her at all.
Praying they did.
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 10:48 AM
If it breaks community rules, code enforcement or the HOA can have it towed and charge the Anthonys (or put a lien on their home)
Wow I didn't know they could go so far as to put a lien on their house.:eek:
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:48 AM
Yes, I, after due consideration, have come to the conclusion that she is just another woman who happens to be wearing a tank top.ITA. Too tall and slim. imo
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 10:49 AM
I think not. The media would be all over that. imo
You're probably right but I just want her to be found so badly and brought home to rest. Then Casey back in jail for good. If the LE were able to get her out of there without anyone seeing, they have been pretty good at no leaks until they are ready with other things. I guess we'll see when the time comes. *sigh*
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 10:49 AM
I feel that they have her already. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but TE went home in a flurry of trailers and dust. Tim had said he wouldn't leave until she is found. They could have searched the landfill or somewhere dry if it was too wet in places. Then it got silent from LE. No leaks, nothing until charges yesterday. And now they have ended the searches. I'm betting they are waiting on identification through DNA. I'm probably wrong, but a gal can dream. ;-) MOO
Keeping my fingers crossed you are right! I stated this the other day but didn't when LE found Brooke Bennett they waited until a day later to make an anouncement?
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 10:50 AM
I'm thinking they may have found something during the search near the University if they found her at all.
Praying they did.
I think if they had found anything....at the university, or when Tim was searching...we would have heard. It seems whenever there is a missing child/person case, the MINUTE they find a body, or anything thought to be perhaps related, it's publicized. :shrug:
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm thinking they may have found something during the search near the University if they found her at all.
Praying they did.
I am thinking that too and they are waiting to make sure it's Caylee and then they can hold a news conference and announce she has been charged with murder..MO
Mint_Julep
09-12-2008, 10:52 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed you are right! I stated this the other day but didn't when LE found Brooke Bennett they waited until a day later to make an anouncement?
I don't remember that case, how long was she missing? With Caylee being gone so long it may take quite a while to identify her through DNA or dental records - if she had any.
st777jo
09-12-2008, 10:52 AM
You mean another sign in front of that HUGE bilboard? :biggrin: Take a look. She's not Cindy.
LOL. I know. I was a smart a$$
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 10:52 AM
I am thinking that too and they are waiting to make sure it's Caylee and then they can hold a news conference and announce she has been charged with murder..MOLots of dreamin' going on here... imo
Any reports of CSI vans around the search sites?
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 10:54 AM
Lots of dreamin' going on here... imo
Any reports of CSI vans around the search sites?
No :( and yer burstin' my bubble Joan. ;-)
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 10:54 AM
There is a search going on tomorrow. Here is a link about it from WS if anyone is interested in joining.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70963 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70963)
snap4
09-12-2008, 10:54 AM
Here is a video I found ...the guy states it like it is, he doesn't hold back a thing. Just thought it was good and thoght I would share, watch if you want to....
911 CALL Missing FLorida Toddler (Casey Anthony arrest)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te4vI4NgS4Y&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N01iVuc7Uoo
That was a good one too but I had to chuckle right out loud at the guy's last comment about pizza on the first one, didn't you?
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 10:55 AM
I don't remember that case, how long was she missing? With Caylee being gone so long it may take quite a while to identify her through DNA or dental records - if she had any.
I think she was missing about a week. She was found buried.
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 10:56 AM
I'm not sure if the same holds true in FL, as it does here, but I imagine they have something 'like this'...
"Pro Bono" attorneys, or attorneys that take cases at no charge to the client, still get benefits and things from the state bar...
Attorneys are required to have IOLTA accounts here, which draw interest, that interest is then taken and put into a fund for those that can not afford their own attorney (mostly public defenders) thus the "you have a right to an attorney, if you can not afford one, one will be provided for you..." type deal
As for Beaz, not only could he be getting this "Pro Bono" credit(s)...
He's making his name very big, in a national case...
The money will come...
If not in through "interviews, opinions, books and movie rights"...
Then through the hourly increase in his rate for becoming "high profile" attorney "Beaz"...(especially if he's able to pull off ANY defense for Casey)...
All, JMO, Always
http://www.uiowa.edu/~cyberlaw/elp00/ajfin01.html
..Thanks for the info..This kind of helped explain it also..haha maybe Casey is helping to defray the cost by doing office work..faxing? :rolleyes:
"There are a variety of cases that involve court-appointed attorneys. They may defend the accused in the initial trial, help convicts appeal their guilty verdicts or sentences (including death sentences), promote the interests of children in cases of abuse or neglect, or represent the interests of parents in abuse or neglect cases. Court appointed attorneys also represent the interests of people with disabilities or those who are or who may become institutionalized for mental impairments.
Such diverse populations require the attorney to be skillful and dedicated if the attorney is to represent the client in the client's best interest.
Each state and the federal government chooses the cases for which a court will appoint an attorney to represent a client. Available opportunities may vary widely. For example, the Ninth Judicial Circuit of Florida only uses court-appointed attorneys to represent indigent defendants in felony, misdemeanor, traffic and juvenile delinquency cases in Orange County when the Public Defender withdraws due to a conflict of interest.(1) In some jurisdictions the court may appoint an attorney to represent all indigent defendants in criminal cases because there is no public defender system."
st777jo
09-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Does any one wonder why C and/or G never went looking for Casey and the car when they hadn't seen or talked to Caylee after a few weeks?
Regina.Lampert
09-12-2008, 11:00 AM
If they've found Caylee it's the best kept secret since McCain picked Sara Palin, imo. If the remains were found that area would have to be roped off as a crimescene and gone over with a finetooth comb by a forensic team.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:01 AM
snipped ...
A while ago I was reading up on the difference between psychopath and sociopath, and one article I read said a bottom line difference is that socio-paths are capable of limited caring for and attachments to persons, whereas psychopaths are incapable of having care or feelings for anyone under any circumstances. They said, for example, a sociopath might lie, cheat, steal from or kill anyone except their grandmother (or latinos, or children, whatever exception person or group they have developed) whereas a psychopath has no exceptions. Using this criteria, I've tried to decide if I'd put Casey in the catergory of socio-path or psychopath. She has not shown care or concern to anyone in her family including her own daughter, imo. But she does seem to have had feelings for Tone and possibly other boyfriends in the past. So what does that make her? Completely unfeeling or a warped socio-path incapable of normal relationships and normal feelings but able to "care" and develop attachments in limited circumstances. I'd say the first because I think she would lie, cheat and steal or harm anyone including her past boyfriends if it served her end goal...in other words, I don't think these "attachments" necessarily indicate true care or deeper feelings. IMOVery interesting post. It appears her BFs last about 2 months. IIRC, she and Ricardo ended their relationship mutually. I can't remember who said it, but someone did say Ricardo was a very superficial guy, not prone to heavy emotion, or something like that.
According to Tony's roommates, she did everything to make herself welcome in their apt. She reminds me of other women I have known that insinuate themselves into people's lives; ie; doing laundry, cleaning, cooking, etc. Kind of setting it up so that one would feel guilty and appear ungrateful if they were to tell her to get lost. imo
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Does any one wonder why C and/or G never went looking for Casey and the car when they hadn't seen or talked to Caylee after a few weeks?
Casey told her she was on a "business trip with the nanny" (so the nanny could take care of Caylee when Casey was in "business meetings"). Then, Casey told her they went on a "mini-vacation, to bond." And, after all, Casey is an adult (chronologically) and Caylee was her child (biologically), so she couldn't actually go to the police.
FrankieBones1
09-12-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm thinking they may have found something during the search near the University if they found her at all.
Praying they did.
If it's a case of them finding skeletal remains, how long would it take to make a positive ID?
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:03 AM
No :( and yer burstin' my bubble Joan. ;-)Aw...sorry. :(
I just think we would have heard something...the media surely keeps an eye on the search areas. imo
Fallen Angel
09-12-2008, 11:04 AM
I hope so. Good to see ya :seeya:
Good to see you too Rebel, i'm really ready for a BIG break
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:05 AM
If it's a case of them finding skeletal remains, how long would it take to make a positive ID?
Well, how long did it take to do the DNA tests on Laci and Conner Peterson? That could be a guide.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:05 AM
If they've found Caylee it's the best kept secret since McCain picked Sara Palin, imo. If the remains were found that area would have to be roped off as a crimescene and gone over with a finetooth comb by a forensic team.Good morning, Reggie. ITA. No reports of CSI vans that I know of. It is what it is.
Mint_Julep
09-12-2008, 11:05 AM
Good to see you too Rebel, i'm really ready for a BIG break
Me too. Every morning I get up wondering if this might be "the day".
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:05 AM
Lost the webcam..anyone else?
Fallen Angel
09-12-2008, 11:05 AM
If it's a case of them finding skeletal remains, how long would it take to make a positive ID?
probably a week. imo
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:06 AM
After all these weeks have passed, has anyone seen Cindy or George get out in front of the cameras and make a plea for the so-called kidnappers to bring Caylee back home? And Casey could be out there too, begging for Caylee to be brought back and "lets make a deal". Not one of them have done anything except go to vigils. And Casey is peeking thru the curtains at the protestors while Cindy goes outside to provoke them.That is a BIG thing which has bothered me snowjade! Even if Baez is worried how casey will "play" in an interview he could tape a plea from her in his office with as many takes as he felt was necessary to make her "look right".
I'm sure any media source would snap up such a thing for broadcast...it would be the closest to an interview they are likely to get.
I have been wondering about Baez's family this morning. I wonder if their aquaintances...other kids at school are giving them a hard time about all of this? I don't think I would want to do defense of people like Casey if I had a family...it just has to be too difficult for your kids and spouse, especially in a high profile case and with such an unpopular defendant. They must get so much flak from outside, and then the moral conflict that the children must go through trying to understand it all...
I don't have any Prob. with a defense attorney, I'm sure it's a hard job and Lord knows someone must do it. What I have a problem with is a defense attorney who helps his client "make" his pay by selling video of the child that she probably murdered (which I'm sure he knows better then any of us). That is blood money, and IMO he has a direct hand in making it...you have to draw a line somewhere and refuse to step over it. Helping a murderer make money off a dead child is definitely oveer the line IMO. There has been alot of talk about how "wrong" the protests are, but far less about how sick someone must be to make money off of a dead child. To me that presents a far more serious moral dilemna.
I don't know how his wife and child(ren?) can abide it. He could choose to do this case free if he wanted, but it looks like he won't. I couldn't be with a man who did something like that...to think that my vacation or Christmas gifts were bought with the profits from Caylees death...<<<shudder>>>. IMO, Baez is giving Defense attorney's a bad name with his sketchy ways. The idea of ANYONE cashing in on Caylee makes me positively ill.
JMO though.
st777jo
09-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Casey told her she was on a "business trip with the nanny" (so the nanny could take care of Caylee when Casey was in "business meetings"). Then, Casey told her they went on a "mini-vacation, to bond." And, after all, Casey is an adult (chronologically) and Caylee was her child (biologically), so she couldn't actually go to the police.
True, I understand she couldn't go to the police, but if it was me, I would have asked to talk to Caylee or asked her for the "nanny's #, to ease my mind. Especially knowing what I knew about Casey.
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Lost the webcam..anyone else?
Its back:)
Hello:seeya:
I wonder if Baez will be working over the weekend with casey?
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:08 AM
probably a week. imo
Yeah, but if there were any human skeletal remains found, I feel pretty sure it would be in the news. Remember, even if the remains were not Caylee's, they would belong to someone else whose life mattered.
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Lots of dreamin' going on here... imo
Any reports of CSI vans around the search sites?
Probably dreamin. Someone did tell me there is a message board that has someone reporting that CSI people from TN Body Farm were headed down to Orlando. Thats not really a report so......:shrug:
All I know is usually when all searches are called off in a case they usually make an announcement as to why a day or 2 later. Usually because remains were found etc. I guess I'm just wanting her found so badly that Im hoping thats the reason and being unrealstically optomistic.
Fallen Angel
09-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Me too. Every morning I get up wondering if this might be "the day".
i had that feeling everyday with jessica lundsford. OMG that case rocked me to the core. It left me in tears for days and made me have to sit back and think about the evil that lives near our kids.
Katt2
09-12-2008, 11:08 AM
I am thinking that too and they are waiting to make sure it's Caylee and then they can hold a news conference and announce she has been charged with murder..MO
Doc, I doubt if Tim and his team found Caylee. There is no way some of the searchers wouldn't know about it and someone would have talked.
kakax
09-12-2008, 11:09 AM
Well, Shep is going to be on at 10 pm tonight with live coverage following him afterward through the night for Hurricane Ike. No Greta it looks like. Glad we still have NG to wrap up what has happened during the day!!!
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:09 AM
Hello:seeya:
I wonder if Baez will be working over the weekend with casey?
I bet the protestors are gonna be real bad over the weekend.
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 11:10 AM
If it's a case of them finding skeletal remains, how long would it take to make a positive ID?
I just read an article about a man that was missing for 4 1/2 years. Took them a week to ID the bones. So I'm not sure.
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 11:10 AM
That is a BIG thing which has bothered me snowjade! Even if Baez is worried how casey will "play" in an interview he could tape a plea from her in his office with as many takes as he felt was necessary to make her "look right".
I'm sure any media source would snap up such a thing for broadcast...it would be the closest to an interview they are likely to get.
I have been wondering about Baez's family this morning. I wonder if their aquaintances...other kids at school are giving them a hard time about all of this? I don't think I would want to do defense of people like Casey if I had a family...it just has to be too difficult for your kids and spouse, especially in a high profile case and with such an unpopular defendant. They must get so much flak from outside, and then the moral conflict that the children must go through trying to understand it all...
I don't have any Prob. with a defense attorney, I'm sure it's a hard job and Lord knows someone must do it. What I have a problem with is a defense attorney who helps his client "make" his pay by selling video of the child that she probably murdered (which I'm sure he knows better then any of us). That is blood money, and IMO he has a direct hand in making it...you have to draw a line somewhere and refuse to step over it. Helping a murderer make money off a dead child is definitely oveer the line IMO. There has been alot of talk about how "wrong" the protests are, but far less about how sick someone must be to make money off of a dead child. To me that presents a far more serious moral dilemna.
I don't know how his wife and child(ren?) can abide it. He could choose to do this case free if he wanted, but it looks like he won't. I couldn't be with a man who did something like that...to think that my vacation or Christmas gifts were bought with the profits from Caylees death...<<<shudder>>>. IMO, Baez is giving Defense attorney's a bad name with his sketchy ways. The idea of ANYONE cashing in on Caylee makes me positively ill.
JMO though.
Absolutely! :patriot:
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Hello:seeya:
I wonder if Baez will be working over the weekend with casey?Well, no reports of Casey having left to go to his office, so I'm thinking she stayed home today, maybe in preparation for the arrest on the new charges? IIRC, she was granted permission for weekday visits, no weekends. imo
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Casey told her she was on a "business trip with the nanny" (so the nanny could take care of Caylee when Casey was in "business meetings"). Then, Casey told her they went on a "mini-vacation, to bond." And, after all, Casey is an adult (chronologically) and Caylee was her child (biologically), so she couldn't actually go to the police.
That bonding statement always bothered me, was Casey and Caylee having problems that they needed to get away to "bond", Cindy never seemed to question that. I have 3 children and I never needed to get away with them to "bond".
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Yeah, but if there were any human skeletal remains found, I feel pretty sure it would be in the news. Remember, even if the remains were not Caylee's, they would belong to someone else whose life mattered.
ITA. If anything were found at all, it would be publicized. I know that's happened in previous cases.
Mint_Julep
09-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Dumb question here. If skeletal remains were found, does the hair disintegrate? Could LE use any hair to see if drugs or alcohol were in her body?
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:12 AM
Doc, I doubt if Tim and his team found Caylee. There is no way some of the searchers wouldn't know about it and someone would have talked.
Hi sweetie..I know, I'm just hoping..:(
KKKKKKatie
09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Or am I looking at bushes or shrubs?:confused:
hit control and + it will enlarge the pic ;)
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Aw...sorry. :(
I just think we would have heard something...the media surely keeps an eye on the search areas. imo
I don't know what happened after we left but Media wasn't allowed to know where we were searching specifically. :shrug:
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
My thoughts are that if they have found something/someone it might be days before we'd know if because testing would have to be done to even know who they found. So many missing people so little time. Even size of bone would not be a no brainer because of other children like Trenton are missing yet.
I'm willing to wait. Not very patient person normally but I'll make an exception here. They have Casey on so many other charges that she isn't going anywhere for a long while. Investigations take time...Casey will be doing time. It will work out. I know it will.
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
True, I understand she couldn't go to the police, but if it was me, I would have asked to talk to Caylee or asked her for the "nanny's #, to ease my mind. Especially knowing what I knew about Casey.
That's what ticked Cindy off. She did call Casey, and Caylee was always sleeping or "with the nanny" or some such nonsense. Why Cindy was comfortable with never seeing, not knowing and not having any contact information for Caylee's long-time "nanny" is a mystery to me and lots of other people. Reporters once asked her if Caylee ever mentioned her nanny by name, and she brushed off the question, saying there was no need. :confused:
penguinlady
09-12-2008, 11:15 AM
Home confinement isn't normal for the crimes she's been charged with though. She's a heck of a lot more restricted than usual for being bonded out on those charges.
JMO
Bond is unusually high too. My dh keeps going on and on about the fact that for child endagerment (what she was charged with) $500,000 is more than normal.
IMO
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:16 AM
Does any one wonder why C and/or G never went looking for Casey and the car when they hadn't seen or talked to Caylee after a few weeks?
I honestly don't understand that. Having had my daughter and g-child living with me the first two years of her life (like the Anthony's), I can't imagine why they didn't find them before a month of being gone. I've not heard any mention of them even looking for them. If my daughter and I had a fight and my daughter left with my g-child...and especially if I thought my daughter was an unstable person...I would have been finding them before a month passed! I'll never understand it. Was it stubborness? I mean, if it was that easy to find them through Amy a month later....then they could have found them the same way early on.
I think G&C are in on a cover up and have thought that from the beginning and I don't like them. With that said, I get a twinge of sympathy for the guilt they must feel and wonder if it's why they can't face Caylee being dead. I think deep inside they must know the truth but don't want to face it. I think it's more about protecting Casey, but maybe they really can't face her being dead because they'd feel so guilty for not protecting her. I know I would. I even catch myself wondering if Casey left with Caylee in the middle of her fight with Cindy and even said something like "You'll never see her again". I do NOT believe George's story that "they just left for work and the Nanny like any other day". I believe there was a fight and they were throwing Casey out and she took Caylee and might have even told them they'd never see her again. If that's the way it went, can you even begin to imagine the guilt they would feel? I couldn't live with it.
I think George has shown more of the grieving process than Cindy....anger is a part of the grieving and I've seen more of that from him. I don't get how Cindy can appear so calm.
And I wonder if they've ever asked what their lives will be like if Casey doesn't wind up in jail and continues to live with them. They had a nightmare before but at least they had Caylee in their lives for some joy. Down the road something very bad could happen in that household (on top of what has already happened with Caylee). If I were them, I'd be afraid....very afraid.
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 11:17 AM
Dumb question here. If skeletal remains were found, does the hair disintegrate? Could LE use any hair to see if drugs or alcohol were in her body?
I thought I heard years ago that hair and nail continue to grow even after death.:shrug:
Mizzchiff
09-12-2008, 11:17 AM
Wow I didn't know they could go so far as to put a lien on their house.:eek:
Most HOA's can force compliance with their rules (at the homeowners cost) It costs a lot less to hire someone to cut your grass than to pay the HOA to do it.
Here are some nightmare stories
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/HOA-horrors1.asp
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:17 AM
i had that feeling everyday with jessica lundsford. OMG that case rocked me to the core. It left me in tears for days and made me have to sit back and think about the evil that lives near our kids.
That was the most awful case. That happened two counties north of me. My son was working up that way and drove by the house, saw all the stuffed animals and balloons out there in front.....it just seems we have more than our share of heartbreaking crimes in FL. :(
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:17 AM
That's what ticked Cindy off. She did call Casey, and Caylee was always sleeping or "with the nanny" or some such nonsense. Why Cindy was comfortable with never seeing, not knowing and not having any contact information with Caylee's long-time "nanny" is a mystery to me and lots of other people. Reporters once asked her if Caylee ever mentioned her nanny by name, and she brushed off the question, saying there was no need. :confused:
That bothers me too..I would have had to know the number of this so called nanny and where she lived..I would have went to her house and introduced myself as Caylee's GM and gave her my number if she needed anything..What if Casey got into an accident and was killed, GM would want to know how to find her GD..Makes no sense to me..
Mint_Julep
09-12-2008, 11:17 AM
That's what ticked Cindy off. She did call Casey, and Caylee was always sleeping or "with the nanny" or some such nonsense. Why Cindy was comfortable with never seeing, not knowing and not having any contact information for Caylee's long-time "nanny" is a mystery to me and lots of other people. Reporters once asked her if Caylee ever mentioned her nanny by name, and she brushed off the question, saying there was no need. :confused:
Cindy, IMO, had to be lying there. She seems to be a control freak and I can't see her not knowing such an important piece of info.
need2no
09-12-2008, 11:18 AM
Or am I looking at bushes or shrubs?:confused:
:biggrin:Bushes and shrubs, unless I need my eyes checked.
margaritaville
09-12-2008, 11:18 AM
Well, IMO, two things are true:
1) This is absolutely allowed by the terms of her house arrest. She cans spend as long as she and Baez say is necessary at his office.
BUT
2) This is yet another example of bad PR on the part of Team Casey, since everybody is well aware that clients do not have to stay all day, every day in their lawyers' offices. Everybody is well aware that this is criminal perp day care service masquerading as "client conferences."
Or there is more going on then just client/lawyer relationship :eek:..........JMHO
st777jo
09-12-2008, 11:19 AM
That's what ticked Cindy off. She did call Casey, and Caylee was always sleeping or "with the nanny" or some such nonsense. Why Cindy was comfortable with never seeing, not knowing and not having any contact information with Caylee's long-time "nanny" is a mystery to me and lots of other people. Reporters once asked her if Caylee ever mentioned her nanny by name, and she brushed off the question, saying there was no need. :confused:
Believe or not, I have read about 90% of everything, but the old brain, well what can I say. lol
The reason it bothers me, is my son was not paying on his car loan. When I got the message, I drove an hour to my sons area and drove all over looking for that car. He he, I found it and took the keys. But that just me and why I said I would have been riding around, asking anybody if they knew Casey or Caylee.
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:19 AM
My thoughts are that if they have found something/someone it might be days before we'd know if because testing would have to be done to even know who they found. So many missing people so little time. Even size of bone would not be a no brainer because of other children like Trenton are missing yet.
I'm willing to wait. Not very patient person normally but I'll make an exception here. They have Casey on so many other charges that she isn't going anywhere for a long while. Investigations take time...Casey will be doing time. It will work out. I know it will.
But I don't think they always wait for positive ID, Boxer. I remember hearing in many cases, "remains have been found which may possibly be XXXX"
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:19 AM
That bonding statement always bothered me, was Casey and Caylee having problems that they needed to get away to "bond", Cindy never seemed to question that. I have 3 children and I never needed to get away with them to "bond".You don't have Cindy in the house. It's not hard to imagine Cindy taking over everything, and dictating Caylee's care. I suspect Casey wanted to do things for Caylee herself. I recall when I had my babies, I couldn't wait to get away from those nurses and care for my child myself.
I could understand the "bonding" statement. imo
KKKKKKatie
09-12-2008, 11:20 AM
Thanks for that info. But the cam refreshes every 5 secs and by the time i use ctrl+ it refreshes.
But I'm sure I need to put my bi-focals back on :)
it should still work...and you can do it more than once to make it really big! I have IE and it works on that
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:21 AM
Thanks for that info. But the cam refreshes every 5 secs and by the time i use ctrl+ it refreshes.
But I'm sure I need to put my bi-focals back on :)Mine does that, too. It seems to affect the transmission of the signal. :confused:
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:21 AM
That bonding statement always bothered me, was Casey and Caylee having problems that they needed to get away to "bond", Cindy never seemed to question that. I have 3 children and I never needed to get away with them to "bond".
Yeah, I always found that bonding conversation "suspect".
You don't bond with your children when they are almost 3.
You bond with them while you're carrying them and from the minute they are born. You don't need to take a vacation to "bond" with them.
The statement sounded stupid to me. If she would have said, "they took a vacation to get away" it would have made more sense. I think that bonding explanation was just a lie.
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:21 AM
That bothers me too..I would have had to know the number of this so called nanny and where she lived..I would have went to her house and introduced myself as Caylee's GM and gave her my number if she needed anything..What if Casey got into an accident and was killed, GM would want to know how to find her GD..Makes no sense to me..
With a registered nurse for a grandmother and former deputy sheriff for a grandfather it makes no sense not to have had emergency numbers for the so called nanny, an address and something other than your scamming former (not) sports authority employed lying daughter's word for it.
Right there, for me, is the very reason why I think Cindy has been lying ever since the woman said 911, what is your emergency.
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:22 AM
it should still work...and you can do it more than once to make it really big! I have IE and it works on that
HI Katie, I tried and I can't get it to work either. I am hitting ctrl and the plus sign and i get nothing!!!
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:25 AM
I thought I heard years ago that hair and nail continue to grow even after death.:shrug:No, they don't. The flesh shrinks.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1944/do-hair-and-nails-continue-to-grow-after-death
Lorna
09-12-2008, 11:25 AM
Good morning Martha. I read somewhere that Lee's g-friend is pregnant. If she is, it would probably be hard to just move on.
I can't remember if I read about her being pregnant here or on a news site so JMO.
If she is pregnant, she should just distance herself no matter how hard. Can you imagine your baby being around Aunt Casey?
I wouldn't allow it.
KKKKKKatie
09-12-2008, 11:26 AM
HI Katie, I tried and I can't get it to work either. I am hitting ctrl and the plus sign and i get nothing!!!
hmmm don't know why? I have IE and it works great. I just hold down the control button and hit the +. Each time I hit the + it gets bigger and bigger :shrug:
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:27 AM
Bond is unusually high too. My dh keeps going on and on about the fact that for child endagerment (what she was charged with) $500,000 is more than normal.
IMOThe prosecution argued against bond until Caylee is found. I suspect the judge compromised on that argument. imo
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 11:27 AM
Yeah, I always found that bonding conversation "suspect".
You don't bond with your children when they are almost 3.
You bond with them while you're carrying them and from the minute they are born. You don't need to take a vacation to "bond" with them.
The statement sounded stupid to me. If she would have said, "they took a vacation to get away" it would have made more sense. I think that bonding explanation was just a lie.
I think it was a lie too..I dont think Cindy wanted to say there was a huge argument and Casey got pissed and left with Caylee..Cindy was being stubborn at that time, imo, and was letting Casey see what it was like to tend to a toddler. Like others, to me, I cannot see CA & GA NOT knowing even a phone # for a baby sitter..makes no sense. (jmo)
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 11:27 AM
hmmm don't know why? I have IE and it works great. I just hold down the control button and hit the +. Each time I hit the + it gets bigger and bigger :shrug:
Works for me as well and I'm using Firefox.
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:27 AM
hmmm don't know why? I have IE and it works great. I just hold down the control button and hit the +. Each time I hit the + it gets bigger and bigger :shrug:
Oh Well, I will try again thank you anyway:seeya:
Mizzchiff
09-12-2008, 11:28 AM
If it's a case of them finding skeletal remains, how long would it take to make a positive ID?
I don't know if there would be much regarding dental records for a 2-3 year old. I know they can usually tell by the pelvis of adults if it's male or female, but not so sure with children. With Trenton missing so nearby, I would think they'd wait for DNA identification (and until Casey is in custody) to announce that they have found Caylee.
BrownEyedF
09-12-2008, 11:29 AM
That bonding statement always bothered me, was Casey and Caylee having problems that they needed to get away to "bond", Cindy never seemed to question that. I have 3 children and I never needed to get away with them to "bond".
I think the "bonding" story was a bunch of BS. Cindy didn't want to air her dirty laundry and say we had a fight and she left. There were probably arguments before she split about Cindy assuming the role of mother to Caylee. Therefore, Cindy wanted to put the most positive spin on her running off, so she used the 'bonding' story. I always thought that was a bunch of dung.
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:29 AM
With a registered nurse for a grandmother and former deputy sheriff for a grandfather it makes no sense not to have had emergency numbers for the so called nanny, an address and something other than your scamming former (not) sports authority employed lying daughter's word for it.
Right there, for me, is the very reason why I think Cindy has been lying ever since the woman said 911, what is your emergency.
Something just not right about not knowing about the "nanny"..
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:29 AM
You don't have Cindy in the house. It's not hard to imagine Cindy taking over everything, and dictating Caylee's care. I suspect Casey wanted to do things for Caylee herself. I recall when I had my babies, I couldn't wait to get away from those nurses and care for my child myself.
I could understand the "bonding" statement. imo
Interesting. I agree with you.
Serious question, Joan....do you think Casey loved Caylee? I'd be interested to hear your answer. And if the answer is "no"...how that meshes with your post above.
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:30 AM
Is the case manager a man or a woman?
And I wonder if Casey had saved a brownie for them?
;)If they were smart they gave her a female caseworker...that will save everyone from dealing with casey playing her little "Venus flytrap" games and trying to manipulate with her "wiles".
I guarantee she would do her best to flutter her eyelashes at any man within fluttering distance. Had she not Harmed Caylee I do think she would have eventually ended up in the news anyway as a "black widow".
I still say baez needs to worry about creating the appearance of impropriety...maybe he has an assistant he keeps in the room with casey? I definitely would if I were him, you just KNOW that if he angers her in any way, she will come up with whopper of a victim story and claim impropriety towards her from him.
JMO.
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:30 AM
You don't have Cindy in the house. It's not hard to imagine Cindy taking over everything, and dictating Caylee's care. I suspect Casey wanted to do things for Caylee herself. I recall when I had my babies, I couldn't wait to get away from those nurses and care for my child myself.
I could understand the "bonding" statement. imo
That was one thing I was extremely careful about with my daughter/g-child living with us. I NEVER wanted to take over the "mom role" and didn't want the responsibilty of raising a child again. Plus, I wanted my daughter to be "mom" and know those responsibilities, as I didn't want them living with us forever. So, I took steps to assure that SHE WAS THE MOM. I didn't even get up in the middle of the night....that was "mommy's job" and I wanted her to do as she would have to do if I wasn't here. It taught her to be responsible with her own child.
I know some other people who handled it much differently....pretty much like the Anthonys. I advised them when they came to talk to me about their daughter being pregnant that they needed to keep in mind that this would be HER CHILD and they needed to maintain the grandparents' roles. I knew they wouldn't take my advice...and they didn't. In the beginning the daughter was perfectly fine with them taking responsibility while she partied and had her freedom. Now that she has grown up it has created problems because the g-parents now won't let her have her own child. It's a mess.
I do not believe that Casey ever wanted the responsibilities of Caylee nor wanted to do things for her. She was still in "party mode" and a baby doesn't fit into that lifestyle. I'm sure she was quite content to let Cindy and George do it all. And I also think Cindy took too much control instead of teaching her daughter to be responsible for Caylee.
Of course if Casey just refused to do things, then someone had to step up to the plate. I think it was a combination of Cindy's control and Casey's willingness to let her control so she didn't have to be responsible.
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:31 AM
Or there is more going on then just client/lawyer relationship :eek:..........JMHO
Frankly, I don't believe that. I think Baez is a professional criminal defense attorney who is well aware that his client is a psychopath, and therefore, he ain't getting involved with that sort of thing. But, lots of people think it is going on, which just adds to their PR dilemma. However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes. And then, he is still left with that time, keeping Casey occupied playing games or surfing the net, while he is stuck inside, unable to go out and do normal business. I would say the situation is pretty bad for him in many ways. He is under house arrest in his office.
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:31 AM
I think it was a lie too..I dont think Cindy wanted to say there was a huge argument and Casey got pissed and left with Caylee..Cindy was being stubborn at that time, imo, and was letting Casey see what it was like to tend to a toddler. Like others, to me, I cannot see CA & GA NOT knowing even a phone # for a baby sitter..makes no sense. (jmo)
Makes NO sense at all..Somethimes we leave our dog at the vets if we go camping..My son and my mom know the vets number in case we don't make it back, they can get my dog...
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:32 AM
If they were smart they gave her a female caseworker...that will save everyone from dealing with casey playing her little "Venus flytrap" games and trying to manipulate with her "wiles".
I guarantee she would do her best to flutter her eyelashes at any man within fluttering distance. Had she not Harmed Caylee I do think she would have eventually ended up in the news anyway as a "black widow".
I still say baez needs to worry about creating the appearance of impropriety...maybe he has an assistant he keeps in the room with casey? I definitely would if I were him, you just KNOW that if he angers her in any way, she will come up with whopper of a victim story and claim impropriety towards her from him.
JMO.
Yes, if he is smart he will have someone in the room with he and Casey for sure. It is not different than a doctors office. Many internists and gyn doc do the same thing when they have to examine patients.
steffaroob4
09-12-2008, 11:33 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:33 AM
Interesting. I agree with you.
Serious question, Joan....do you think Casey loved Caylee? I'd be interested to hear your answer. And if the answer is "no"...how that meshes with your post above.I can't imagine not loving your baby. So, I guess she did, but wasn't allowed to fully care for Caylee. I have a niece whose parents denied her that privilege, and gave her no confidence in her own abilities. I, on the other hand, had to muddle through by myself, so gained that confidence.
I'm not fully convinced that she intentionally killed Caylee; I think it may have been an accident. It's too soon to say. imo
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
Yes, if he is smart he will have someone in the room with he and Casey for sure. It is not different than a doctors office. Many internists and gyn doc do the same thing when they have to examine patients.
I hope he has someone in the room with them..No telling what kind of story she would come up with...
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.
Ooooh, I read them in the 400 page doc, but to hear them will really be something.
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
i think the "bonding" story was a bunch of bs. Cindy didn't want to air her dirty laundry and say we had a fight and she left. There were probably arguments before she split about cindy assuming the role of mother to caylee. Therefore, cindy wanted to put the most positive spin on her running off, so she used the 'bonding' story. I always thought that was a bunch of dung.
.......ita!!!!
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
HI Katie, I tried and I can't get it to work either. I am hitting ctrl and the plus sign and i get nothing!!!
Hi Nana,
Are you hitting the key on your keyboard or the plus key on your number pad? If it's the keyboard, try the one on your number pad. Just a thought.
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.
Wow! Please post link if you do find them.
need2no
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
Yes, if he is smart he will have someone in the room with he and Casey for sure. It is not different than a doctors office. Many internists and gyn doc do the same thing when they have to examine patients.
Doesn't Baez's daughter work at his office?
Velouria
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
I think the "bonding" story was a bunch of BS. Cindy didn't want to air her dirty laundry and say we had a fight and she left. There were probably arguments before she split about Cindy assuming the role of mother to Caylee. Therefore, Cindy wanted to put the most positive spin on her running off, so she used the 'bonding' story. I always thought that was a bunch of dung.
That's putting it kindly.
You don't "bond" with your child by constantly dropping them off at the imaginary nanny's, do you?
That was entirely Cindy's invention, just like the idea of someone else putting a dead body in Casey's car at the impound lot. Pure-T fictional.
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
Frankly, I don't believe that. I think Baez is a professional criminal defense attorney who is well aware that his client is a psychopath, and therefore, he ain't getting involved with that sort of thing. But, lots of people think it is going on, which just adds to their PR dilemma. However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes. And then, he is still left with that time, keeping Casey occupied playing games or surfing the net, while he is stuck inside, unable to go out and do normal business. I would say the situation is pretty bad for him in many ways. He is under house arrest in his office.
ITA, Casey strikes me as a very needy person, she is probably draining the life out of him.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
Frankly, I don't believe that. I think Baez is a professional criminal defense attorney who is well aware that his client is a psychopath, and therefore, he ain't getting involved with that sort of thing. But, lots of people think it is going on, which just adds to their PR dilemma. However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes. And then, he is still left with that time, keeping Casey occupied playing games or surfing the net, while he is stuck inside, unable to go out and do normal business. I would say the situation is pretty bad for him in many ways. He is under house arrest in his office.Wow, thanks for putting a new perspective on that! You could be right. :eek:
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:36 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.
Can't wait to hear them!
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:36 AM
The prosecution argued against bond until Caylee is found. I suspect the judge compromised on that argument. imoI definitely do think that the "high" bond is in direct relation to the factthat the child is still missing. I imagine it is much lower in many neglect cases, but most of them are probably concerning a child who is already placed in a foster home ( theoretically safe and sound). Refusing to aid in finding your child, even going to great lengths to lie and confuse the facts certainly qualifies as "egregious" circumstances ( I hope I got the term right! :)...Lawspeak again...I can't seem to get them right). Combine the utter refusal to help secure the childs safety with a month long lack of concern and I can't see any neglect charge having a higher bond unless there is proof the child has been injured or killed at the time.
JMO. I don't see why anyone thinks her bail was set too high though.:shrug: I'd think the "high end" was for just such circumstances...it is there to be used for a reason.
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 11:36 AM
Ooooh, I read them in the 400 page doc, but to hear them will really be something.
..I agree!!! bet she doesnt even hesitate between lies~ (jmo)
SavannahStar
09-12-2008, 11:36 AM
I can't imagine not loving your baby. So, I guess she did, but wasn't allowed to fully care for Caylee. I have a niece whose parents denied her that privilege, and gave her no confidence in her own abilities. I, on the other hand, had to muddle through by myself, so gained that confidence.
I'm not fully convinced that she intentionally killed Caylee; I think it may have been an accident. It's too soon to say. imo
Thanks for the response. It was as I suspected. You and I think A LOT alike about that.
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:37 AM
Something just not right about not knowing about the "nanny"..
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:37 AM
I thought one of the people involved has a young teen being made fun of? Did I dream that? I don't remember who either? Padilla?Yes, Tony Padilla mentioned that on WS.
JMO.
steffaroob4
09-12-2008, 11:37 AM
Ooooh, I read them in the 400 page doc, but to hear them will really be something.
Me too, I want to hear her reactions to thos questions and she if she was laughing at times. I can't find them anywhere, yet.
Velouria
09-12-2008, 11:38 AM
However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes.
LOL
I'm thinking more like 5, Barskin!
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 11:38 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel..
Lorna
09-12-2008, 11:38 AM
On the other hand, though, what WOULD make her "look good"? Nothing, absolutely nothing, IMO. If she came out of her house, ran to a church up the street and confessed in front of the minister, God, and the WESH cameras and begged for forgiveness, do you think even that would make her look good? Nothing she can do will make her look good, nothing. So, what would be her point in trying to appear any different than she really is? :shrug:
I believe if she told where her daughter could be found would make her look a lot better to most people. I know it would to me.
It would show she was actually remorseful, and that she loved Caylee more than she did herself.
I think it would be a powerful thing for her to do.
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:39 AM
Doesn't Baez's daughter work at his office?
not sure but i would get both of my daughters and myself in there if this were my husband She is NUTS
Acorn
09-12-2008, 11:39 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.
I haven't. Maybe it's the recordings of what they have the transcripts of, hmmm.
Will we get to hear her laugh? hmmmmm
Fallen Angel
09-12-2008, 11:40 AM
For anyone living in Florida, this site will notify you when an offender moves close to your work, school, or home (you just put in the addresses you want monitored)
http://www.floridaoffenderalert.com/
eta: I know it wouldn't have helped Jessica, but maybe it will save another child
we have one like that here in san antonio and i was shocked to find out our 62 yr old neighbor thats a PROFESSOR was on the list. He's since then moved. but it was very hard for me to even let our daughters and their friends swin in our own backyard.
Lorna
09-12-2008, 11:40 AM
Baez's office to check to see if she was where she was suupposed to be according to the news.
Thank you GrandmaGA I had not heard that.
:)
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 11:40 AM
Doesn't GLOBE pay people for their stories? I don't think anyone should be making money of Cayle's death but I think Amy should make money off Casey. It's the only way she will get her money back that Casey stole. I don't buy trash mags but I might this time to see what Amy has to say. I'm assuming it's Amy that was her best friend they are talking about?
Sorry, just trying to catch up here.
Globe, Enquirer and the Star do. I thought and I good be WRONG but if Amy did a paid interview would that hinder her testamony in court? Also I wonder if the interview is really from Amy. Sometimes those rag sheets say an inside source said, or a close friend of, you know stuff like that. I've seen that happen before that the story was not actually given to them by the individual they are reporting on.:shrug:
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
Can't wait to hear them!
me too! anybody got em? they are not on the orange county update site yet.
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
How in the world would Cindy know there was no odor when the car was towed?.....unless she and George were the ones who abandoned the car! :shrug:
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
Hi Nana,
Are you hitting the key on your keyboard or the plus key on your number pad? If it's the keyboard, try the one on your number pad. Just a thought.
thank you I will keep trying
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
I can't imagine not loving your baby. So, I guess she did, but wasn't allowed to fully care for Caylee. I have a niece whose parents denied her that privilege, and gave her no confidence in her own abilities. I, on the other hand, had to muddle through by myself, so gained that confidence.
I'm not fully convinced that she intentionally killed Caylee; I think it may have been an accident. It's too soon to say. imo
You can't imagine not loving your baby. You are not a psychopath. Remember, after Caylee was gone, Casey did not skip a beat. She romped on over to Tony's, never showed a care in the world, partied....Casey did not love Caylee; I am utterly convinced it was not possible for her to do so. I am also convinced it was no accident. I simply don't think Caylee had an accident, and, by happy coincidence, Casey turned out to be a psychopath who didn't care anyway. And, if it were a genuine accident, why didn't Casey call the police? Don't tell me she "panicked." If we've seen anything about this woman, it is that she does not panic.
bballgrl
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
They don't want to announce until they know and can put Casey under suicide watch. Can you imagine if they announce they found a child's remains, Casey kills herself and it is Trenton or another child?
imo
No.. I don't see Casey killing herself. She is too IMPORTANT and self-loving for that....:rolleyes:
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:42 AM
A borrowed shovel..
yup. I'll go ahead and put it inside the quote. so as to maintain the complete list
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:42 AM
Sorry, just trying to catch up here.
Globe, Enquirer and the Star do. I thought and I good be WRONG but if Amy did a paid interview would that hinder her testamony in court? Also I wonder if the interview is really from Amy. Sometimes those rag sheets say an inside source said, or a close friend of, you know stuff like that. I've seen that happen before that the story was not actually given to them by the individual they are reporting on.:shrug:
I thought it was Kristinia?
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
adding car repair lies
tashi
09-12-2008, 11:44 AM
In the past two weeks LE has been extremely silent
I think LE regrets:
Arresting Casey so early in the in the investigation
They thought she would crack in jail..she didn't
Now they've lost opportunities to listen in and follow her
Releasing all the info on decomp, chloroform, dna from hair samples etc.
They thought this would put pressure on Casey to tell her family something...if anything they are more firmly standing in her corner
And now the public has gone insane and have turned the Anthony home into a war zone
It's the world against the Anthonys
I don't think we're going to hear much more from LE until formal charges are filed...no more drips
Unfortunately, LE's strategies have not played out well in this case
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
Looking for information on identification and came across this site. Informative material IMO
ABFO Guidelines for the Use of Dental Information in Missing Person and Unidentified Body Cases
http://www.abfo.org/MissUnID.htm
It gives other useful information other than dental information.
Loves2Read
09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
You don't have Cindy in the house. It's not hard to imagine Cindy taking over everything, and dictating Caylee's care. I suspect Casey wanted to do things for Caylee herself. I recall when I had my babies, I couldn't wait to get away from those nurses and care for my child myself.
I could understand the "bonding" statement. imo
I can totally see your point Joan! I felt the same way with my kids... but in this situation I don't think it fits. If Casey really was feeling the strong desire to take care of a beloved child she never in a million years would be able to go and shake her butt in the clubs not know where she was! I just can't see any love at all there, no I take that back ... she seems to love herself very much. I don't see her love for anyone else in her actions. IMO
charm7
09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
I can't imagine not loving your baby. So, I guess she did, but wasn't allowed to fully care for Caylee. I have a niece whose parents denied her that privilege, and gave her no confidence in her own abilities. I, on the other hand, had to muddle through by myself, so gained that confidence.
I'm not fully convinced that she intentionally killed Caylee; I think it may have been an accident. It's too soon to say. imo
I have no love for Cindy and will say that upfront BUT I don't see how anyone can condemn her for "taking over" the care of Caylee. She paid all the bills, bought all the groceries, expensive playthings in the back yard , medical care etc etc etc,
What did Casey contribute to her daughters care? Nothing NADA!!
If Casey wanted to have the joy of being a MOM and the privledges that go with that she should have got off her a$$ got a job and gave up some partying and maybe grandma woldn't have been so dominant.
This was all on Casey!!
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
You can't imagine not loving your baby. You are not a psychopath. Remember, after Caylee was gone, Casey did not skip a beat. She romped on over to Tony's, never showed a care in the world, partied....Casey did not love Caylee; I am utterly convinced it was not possible for her to do so. I am also convinced it was no accident. I simply don't think Caylee had an accident, and, by happy coincidence, Casey turned out to be a psychopath who didn't care anyway. And, if it were a genuine accident, why didn't Casey call the police? Don't tell me she "panicked." If we've seen anything about this woman, it is that she does not panic.
ITA As I have said before , she is the ice queen. Three veteran detectives could not budge this 22 year old!!! She is tough and cold and manipulating. She drags them over to Universal and then says she does not work there really!!!! She is not scared because she is not worried. She just does not realize yet that mommy and daddy cannot make this go away like I am so sure they have done before to clean up her messes. IMO
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:46 AM
You can't imagine not loving your baby. You are not a psychopath. Remember, after Caylee was gone, Casey did not skip a beat. She romped on over to Tony's, never showed a care in the world, partied....Casey did not love Caylee; I am utterly convinced it was not possible for her to do so. I am also convinced it was no accident. I simply don't think Caylee had an accident, and, by happy coincidence, Casey turned out to be a psychopath who didn't care anyway. And, if it were a genuine accident, why didn't Casey call the police? Don't tell me she "panicked." If we've seen anything about this woman, it is that she does not panic.
ITA with you! And I don't think it was any accident. I believe she wanted to hurt Cindy for trying to kick her out of the house....and she used Caylee to do that. I believe she killed Caylee to "get back" and Cindy.
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:46 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:46 AM
Frankly, I don't believe that. I think Baez is a professional criminal defense attorney who is well aware that his client is a psychopath, and therefore, he ain't getting involved with that sort of thing. But, lots of people think it is going on, which just adds to their PR dilemma. However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes. And then, he is still left with that time, keeping Casey occupied playing games or surfing the net, while he is stuck inside, unable to go out and do normal business. I would say the situation is pretty bad for him in many ways. He is under house arrest in his office.:lol:
On a serious note, I am comforted by the knowledge that no matter how "nice" anyone tries to make things for Casey, she is still goiing to jail, and fairly soon.
She will undoubtably serve time for her economic crimes, & for the obstruction/neglect business too...probably a significant amount of time. I do believe if there is no finding of Caylee or more evidence found by the time she is scheduleed for release that they will bring murder charges then. I think the thing holding back on those charges now are ...
1). They want to locate Caylee, for more evidence and just for decencies sake.
2). There isn't a way to prove she was the last/only with access to that trunk and they cannot find any evidence via witness, or on her clothes to place her with a deceased Caylee. Yet.
Remember, Cindy is the last person that anyone outside the family documents as being with Caylee. IMO that is *just* enough doubt to make LE and the Prosecution wary of bringing charges unless they are "forced" to. I know that any person with a lick of sense can figure out what really happened, Casey had Caylee when she took off, she got mad/lost her temper/didn't pay attention/decided to get even/decided to get rid of Caylee...whatever and cayle ended up dead. casey then disposed of her end of story until Cindy came snooping.
Just remember, it doesn't take much to create "reasonable doubt" sometimes It's ridiculous how little.
JMO.
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:46 AM
adding car repair lies
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:47 AM
That was one thing I was extremely careful about with my daughter/g-child living with us. I NEVER wanted to take over the "mom role" and didn't want the responsibilty of raising a child again. Plus, I wanted my daughter to be "mom" and know those responsibilities, as I didn't want them living with us forever. So, I took steps to assure that SHE WAS THE MOM. I didn't even get up in the middle of the night....that was "mommy's job" and I wanted her to do as she would have to do if I wasn't here. It taught her to be responsible with her own child.
I know some other people who handled it much differently....pretty much like the Anthonys. I advised them when they came to talk to me about their daughter being pregnant that they needed to keep in mind that this would be HER CHILD and they needed to maintain the grandparents' roles. I knew they wouldn't take my advice...and they didn't. In the beginning the daughter was perfectly fine with them taking responsibility while she partied and had her freedom. Now that she has grown up it has created problems because the g-parents now won't let her have her own child. It's a mess.
I do not believe that Casey ever wanted the responsibilities of Caylee nor wanted to do things for her. She was still in "party mode" and a baby doesn't fit into that lifestyle. I'm sure she was quite content to let Cindy and George do it all. And I also think Cindy took too much control instead of teaching her daughter to be responsible for Caylee.
Of course if Casey just refused to do things, then someone had to step up to the plate. I think it was a combination of Cindy's control and Casey's willingness to let her control so she didn't have to be responsible.Thanks, Nellie. You could be right. I know my niece was in the same situation as Casey, but her parents wouldn't allow her to take the baby when she moved out. Her child wanted the grandmother, not her.
The difference in my niece's situation as compared to Casey was that the grandparents wanted her to give the baby up for adoption, and she refused. She wanted her baby. She cried for a week, and they had to go get the baby.
Sure, a young kid wants to go out, and it suited Casey to let Cindy take over, but I suspect Casey inevitably wants her own way all of the time. imo
WillowInFlight
09-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Another thing that has bothered me is what Cindy wrote on her MySpace about Caylee being taken away from her, didn't she write that before she even knew Caylee was missing?
Loves2Read
09-12-2008, 11:48 AM
You can't imagine not loving your baby. You are not a psychopath. Remember, after Caylee was gone, Casey did not skip a beat. She romped on over to Tony's, never showed a care in the world, partied....Casey did not love Caylee; I am utterly convinced it was not possible for her to do so. I am also convinced it was no accident. I simply don't think Caylee had an accident, and, by happy coincidence, Casey turned out to be a psychopath who didn't care anyway. And, if it were a genuine accident, why didn't Casey call the police? Don't tell me she "panicked." If we've seen anything about this woman, it is that she does not panic.
ITA. You hit the nail on the head hammer !!!!
I disagree. The Anthony's are in total denial that Casey could have harmed Caylee. JMO.
They have already admitted to themselves and LE that this is a possibility. They aren't in denial, IMO.
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 11:48 AM
Cindy, IMO, had to be lying there. She seems to be a control freak and I can't see her not knowing such an important piece of info.
IIRC didn't CA say that they were texting back & forth with each other so she didn't have any reason to think that Caylee wasn't with Casey ?
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:49 AM
I have no love for Cindy and will say that upfront BUT I don't see how anyone can condemn her for "taking over" the care of Caylee. She paid all the bills, bought all the groceries, expensive playthings in the back yard , medical care etc etc etc,
What did Casey contribute to her daughters care? Nothing NADA!!
If Casey wanted to have the joy of being a MOM and the privledges that go with that she should have got off her a$$ got a job and gave up some partying and maybe grandma woldn't have been so dominant.
This was all on Casey!!
I think the grands loved Caylee. They also love their daughter. I guess I can't blame them for that. But when push comes to shove, at the top of the list of priorities, Caylee's name should be first.
margaritaville
09-12-2008, 11:49 AM
Frankly, I don't believe that. I think Baez is a professional criminal defense attorney who is well aware that his client is a psychopath, and therefore, he ain't getting involved with that sort of thing. But, lots of people think it is going on, which just adds to their PR dilemma. However, for arguments sake, let's pretend something untoward is going on. How much of the day would that take up? 15, maybe 20 minutes. And then, he is still left with that time, keeping Casey occupied playing games or surfing the net, while he is stuck inside, unable to go out and do normal business. I would say the situation is pretty bad for him in many ways. He is under house arrest in his office.
You are right!! Can he leave hwe with say an associate or secretary or does he himself have to be with her at all times while she is at his office??
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:49 AM
TODAY'S UPDATES: (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Recordings of Casey Anthony interviews released
11:16 a.m.: The Orange County Sheriff's Office today released the audio recordings of interviews conducted between Casey Anthony and investigators on July 16 - the day the 22-year-old mother was arrested.
Anyone listen to them yet? I can't find them.Oh BOY! I need to run errands, but I think those will be very "interesting" to listen too. It should definitely clear up any ideas about whether or not Casey's laughter was inappropriate or whether she was "harassed and pressured" by detectives...of course, there are some who still thought that flippin "high five" was within the bounds of propriety...:rolleyes:
JMO.
tashi
09-12-2008, 11:50 AM
I think Padilla really regrets posting bond the first time. If Casey had stayed in jail, she might have "broke". JMO.
ETA: The judge thought he had posted bond high enough, that no one would be able to get her out of jail.
I do too...I don't think he had any idea what he was getting into
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:50 AM
In the past two weeks LE has been extremely silent
I think LE regrets:
Arresting Casey so early in the in the investigation
They thought she would crack in jail..she didn't
Now they've lost opportunities to listen in and follow her
Releasing all the info on decomp, chloroform, dna from hair samples etc.
They thought this would put pressure on Casey to tell her family something...if anything they are more firmly standing in her corner
And now the public has gone insane and have turned the Anthony home into a war zone
It's the world against the Anthonys
I don't think we're going to hear much more from LE until formal charges are filed...no more drips
Unfortunately, LE's strategies have not played out well in this case
ITA I don't think LE ever thought they would have to deal with anyone like Casey. I am sure they have seen alot but I would think that they thought they could get her to crack. They probably can on a normal person but she is not normal. IMO. They hopefully are working with people in the psychological field who can advise them on her mental issues as they see them and then they can handle her differently than they do others. IMO
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:50 AM
IIRC didn't CA say that they were texting back & forth with each other so she didn't have any reason to think that Caylee wasn't with Casey ?
I believe she stated that at the bond hearing.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:51 AM
:lol:
On a serious note, I am comforted by the knowledge that no matter how "nice" anyone tries to make things for Casey, she is still goiing to jail, and fairly soon.
She will undoubtably serve time for her economic crimes, & for the obstruction/neglect business too...probably a significant amount of time. I do believe if there is no finding of Caylee or more evidence found by the time she is scheduleed for release that they will bring murder charges then. I think the thing holding back on those charges now are ...
1). They want to locate Caylee, for more evidence and just for decencies sake.
2). There isn't a way to prove she was the last/only with access to that trunk and they cannot find any evidence via witness, or on her clothes to place her with a deceased Caylee. Yet.
Remember, Cindy is the last person that anyone outside the family documents as being with Caylee. IMO that is *just* enough doubt to make LE and the Prosecution wary of bringing charges unless they are "forced" to. I know that any person with a lick of sense can figure out what really happened, Casey had Caylee when she took off, she got mad/lost her temper/didn't pay attention/decided to get even/decided to get rid of Caylee...whatever and cayle ended up dead. casey then disposed of her end of story until Cindy came snooping.
Just remember, it doesn't take much to create "reasonable doubt" sometimes It's ridiculous how little.
JMO.Well, it's too bad George didn't call the cops when he got to the car at the tow yard. I surely would have. Daughter missing, granddaughter's personal things in the car, and the smell. What was he thinking? :confused:
Then Cindy washed the slacks, the knife, and who knows what else that was in the car.
This all makes me go :eek:
jmo
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 11:51 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091208,0,5308451.story)
Hi happy. thanks for the link. I read the article but where do we go to listen to the recording?
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:52 AM
Another thing that has bothered me is what Cindy wrote on her MySpace about Caylee being taken away from her, didn't she write that before she even knew Caylee was missing?
I thought she did. Bothers me too. Leads me to believe she knew something was wrong early on.
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 11:52 AM
You are right!! Can he leave hwe with say an associate or secretary or does he himself have to be with her at all times while she is at his office??
I don't know, and I wonder about that. If he leaves his office, it's going to be hard to explain how the attorney-client conference is going on.
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 11:53 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
You should make a special thread for these..Good job Boxer!
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 11:53 AM
Hi happy. thanks for the link. I read the article but where do we go to listen to the recording?
I will try to find them.
OneUp
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
I believe if she told where her daughter could be found would make her look a lot better to most people. I know it would to me.
It would show she was actually remorseful, and that she loved Caylee more than she did herself.
I think it would be a powerful thing for her to do.If she did that I would pray for her ( I doubt she cares if I or anyone does). I think it would indicate that she has some remorse and love for Caylee...however selfish and awful she may be in general, I do think it might win" her points with a jury too...
of course, she is prob. still sure that w/o a body she won't face a jury.
JMO.
When, I must have missed it while I was sick with a bad cold. I guess I'm not getting your point. They believe Casey killed Caylee? :shrug:
They checked their home and yard for foul play before LE arrived. George pulled LE official aside and told them he thinks Casey is hiding something and may have harmed Caylee. They are now in *cover for Casey* mode, not denial, IMO.
SandyO
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
ITA with you! And I don't think it was any accident. I believe she wanted to hurt Cindy for trying to kick her out of the house....and she used Caylee to do that. I believe she killed Caylee to "get back" and Cindy.
I believe she killed Caylee because she was a nuisance. She interfered with Casey's life too much.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
When, I must have missed it while I was sick with a bad cold. I guess I'm not getting your point. They believe Casey killed Caylee? :shrug:Hey, George directed them in the search of their backyard. He pointed out the dirt that didn't look normal, told them they'd already searched out there, and he also told them he didn't think Casey was being truthful. GEORGE SAID...
imo
nana6
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
They have already admitted to themselves and LE that this is a possibility. They aren't in denial, IMO.
No they sure aren't. They went right home and searched their backyard. How many other grand parets of missing grand children would do that? They knew something terrible had happened and by the way, they could have called LE if in fact they thought that something had happend to Caylee AND Casey. But I believe they assumed it was Caylee and that Casey had something to do with it .
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
How in the world would Cindy know there was no odor when the car was towed?.....unless she and George were the ones who abandoned the car! :shrug:
IOM she's reaching again and doing her twisting act. Remember she said she went to the tow yard to speak to the guy after those doc's were released? She's conducting her own investigation.:rolleyes:
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
You should make a special thread for these..Good job Boxer!
you think so? okay, I will. :seeya:
Acorn
09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
adding car repair lies
The media won't let us search for her - See Kitty Gonzalez protester confrontation video with lady married to funeral home worker and young Latino man chewing out Cindy
steffaroob4
09-12-2008, 11:55 AM
Hi happy. thanks for the link. I read the article but where do we go to listen to the recording?
Do you think they will be releasing anything else, seems odd to me they would just release one item?
day2day
09-12-2008, 11:55 AM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
Cindy saying she doesn't want volunteers to search for a dead Caylee (although noone seems to be searching for a live Caylee)
George "The body in the trunk is not my grandchilds"
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:56 AM
ITA with you! And I don't think it was any accident. I believe she wanted to hurt Cindy for trying to kick her out of the house....and she used Caylee to do that. I believe she killed Caylee to "get back" and Cindy...for kicking her out, and forcing her to provide for her own daughter. I believe Cindy knew Casey couldn't handle it, and she didn't. Bad move, Cindy. Casey couldn't go back home with her tail between her legs. imo
tashi
09-12-2008, 11:56 AM
ITA I don't think LE ever thought they would have to deal with anyone like Casey. I am sure they have seen alot but I would think that they thought they could get her to crack. They probably can on a normal person but she is not normal. IMO. They hopefully are working with people in the psychological field who can advise them on her mental issues as they see them and then they can handle her differently than they do others. IMO
Casey just looks normal...she's obviously NOT
I hope LE is getting advise on how to proceed with her...she would be a great one to do a case study on
KKKKKKatie
09-12-2008, 11:56 AM
The guy that towed the car had a cold so he didn't smell anything -- doesn't mean there was no odor. Allergies will cause a person to not smell really bad odors, too.
...and besides he never opened the car. It was locked...he just towed it!
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 11:57 AM
I thought it was Kristinia?
I thought someone it was Amy.. I guess I'm going to go against my better judgement and buy it to see or just read it while I'm at the check out line.:D
Nellie
09-12-2008, 11:57 AM
I have no love for Cindy and will say that upfront BUT I don't see how anyone can condemn her for "taking over" the care of Caylee. She paid all the bills, bought all the groceries, expensive playthings in the back yard , medical care etc etc etc,
What did Casey contribute to her daughters care? Nothing NADA!!
If Casey wanted to have the joy of being a MOM and the privledges that go with that she should have got off her a$$ got a job and gave up some partying and maybe grandma woldn't have been so dominant.
This was all on Casey!!
I think it's a combination of Cindy and Casey. I've seen how controlling people can "take over" and it always makes me want to scream! Cindy enabled Casey not to fulfill her parental role by her controlling. If Casey ever even TRIED to fulfill her "mom role", would Cindy have been able to let her do it her way? Or would she have criticized everything she did? I don't think Cindy ALLOWED Casey to contribute to the care of Caylee and I don't think Casey wanted to anyway. But not wanting to may have been a result of Cindy not letting her. I just think it was a combination of the both of them.
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 11:57 AM
IIRC didn't CA say that they were texting back & forth with each other so she didn't have any reason to think that Caylee wasn't with Casey ?
She testified to that at the bond hearing, but IMHO that was made up after she called 911 and was already trying to cover for Casey. In the 911 call she said she'd been looking for her daughter for a month and had finally found her but her granddaughter was missing. I don't know how she thinks she can get away with lying on the stand under oath when it's on tape. Jeesh.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 11:59 AM
The guy that towed the car had a cold so he didn't smell anything -- doesn't mean there was no odor. Allergies will cause a person to not smell really bad odors, too.Plus, it was next to a dumpster. Also, a tow guy would just go to the front end and attach a chain and tow bar. He wouldn't have been near the trunk. Go to the yard, unhook the same area. Not a personal experience. imo
Boxer
09-12-2008, 11:59 AM
I see what you're saying now. Thanks. None of it makes any sense to me.
If they supposedly loved Caylee so much, why not keep Casey in jail instead of letting her sleep in a comfy bed. That bothers me a lot for some reason.
Casey's hair is all nice and clean, toe nails painted, etc.
she's still nazdee on the inside....
I think Casey's parents know Caylee is gone and have chosen to try to 'save' their daughter.
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:00 PM
I will try to find them.
If you find them would you mind also posting them in the links thread also? TIA
Loves2Read
09-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
I have a favorite quote of Cindy's that might be a nice addition...
Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Do you think they will be releasing anything else, seems odd to me they would just release one item?
I am not sure. If I had my way Everything would be released because i'm wanting to know everything LE has BUT I know they have to keep things close to the vest and protect the integrity of the case. I don't have to be happy about it but I do understand it.
:punch:<~~~~~ me... for being nosey and anxiously impatient. lol
Nellie
09-12-2008, 12:01 PM
They checked their home and yard for foul play before LE arrived. George pulled LE official aside and told them he thinks Casey is hiding something and may have harmed Caylee. They are now in *cover for Casey* mode, not denial, IMO.
I agree. I thought the things early on showed "cover up mode" and as the time has gone on, I'm even more convinced of it. And think about it....how long does a person stay in denial before they finally begin to realize what has happened? :confused: I don't believe they are in denial either. If they were only in denial, then why so many "cover up lies"? Lies wouldn't be necessary if you're just in denial.
trich
09-12-2008, 12:01 PM
If Cindy and Casey had been texting one another all the time she was out of the house and Caylee had been missing ....and Casey did not even tell her mom about Caylee being "kidnapped" .....well that does not make sense.
Even if you don't call 911 wouldn't you call your mom and say mom help
I don't know what to do?
Nothing in this case makes much sense to normal people....
Every time I hear something else I say to myself how could that be.
that is not even logical.
Boxer
09-12-2008, 12:01 PM
Cindy saying she doesn't want volunteers to search for a dead Caylee (although noone seems to be searching for a live Caylee)
George "The body in the trunk is not my grandchilds"
I made a thread at Kitty's suggestion. Would you put these on it? or do you want me to?
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:01 PM
Hey, George directed them in the search of their backyard. He pointed out the dirt that didn't look normal, told them they'd already searched out there, and he also told them he didn't think Casey was being truthful. GEORGE SAID...
imo
IMO opinion that will come back to haunt him in court. Pros. won't pass up on that.
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 12:02 PM
http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547 (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)
I looked on this link but they have not added the recordings yet. I posted it in case anyone wanted to look at the other info. released.
KKKKKKatie
09-12-2008, 12:02 PM
Can someone pls tell me how I can contact CW? TY
the red triangle or
in.session.coldwater@hotmail.com
OneUp
09-12-2008, 12:02 PM
I think the grands loved Caylee. They also love their daughter. I guess I can't blame them for that. But when push comes to shove, at the top of the list of priorities, Caylee's name should be first.I completely agree..Caylee is a child, Caseyb is an adult. If that weren't enough, they KNOW where Casey is and she is in no immediate danger...Caylee is missing, even if they are 100% cinvinced she is alive, don't they wonder what horrors she is experiencing?
I would. I walked the ground all day until I knew there would be NOTHING left I could do. As long as there was hope I drove and I walked. I didn't sit in my kitchen making brownies and mac& cheese...especially not for the beast that stole my Angel away. Even in their "denial" the Anthony's freely admit that they know casey is to blame for Caylee being gone for 30 days before Casey ever got help, NO before Cindy found out and got help. Casey asked for no help from anyone, LE, friend or family until Cindy sat her down to text her friends and make a myspace page...sickening that the first thing they did was run for their computers....I'm sure kidnappers often hide a child incyberspace.
JMO.
charm7
09-12-2008, 12:02 PM
I think it's a combination of Cindy and Casey. I've seen how controlling people can "take over" and it always makes me want to scream! Cindy enabled Casey not to fulfill her parental role by her controlling. If Casey ever even TRIED to fulfill her "mom role", would Cindy have been able to let her do it her way? Or would she have criticized everything she did? I don't think Cindy ALLOWED Casey to contribute to the care of Caylee and I don't think Casey wanted to anyway. But not wanting to may have been a result of Cindy not letting her. I just think it was a combination of the both of them.
I agree Casey didn't want to be a mother because she said as much when she wanted to adopt her out at birth BUT the thought that I don't think Cindy ALLOWED Casey to contribute to the care of Caylee is just speculation. IMO
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 12:02 PM
If you find them would you mind also posting them in the links thread also? TIA
will do:seeya:
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 12:03 PM
I have no love for Cindy and will say that upfront BUT I don't see how anyone can condemn her for "taking over" the care of Caylee. She paid all the bills, bought all the groceries, expensive playthings in the back yard , medical care etc etc etc,
What did Casey contribute to her daughters care? Nothing NADA!!
If Casey wanted to have the joy of being a MOM and the privledges that go with that she should have got off her a$$ got a job and gave up some partying and maybe grandma woldn't have been so dominant.
This was all on Casey!!Don't forget Casey wanted to put the baby up for adoption. Cindy vetoed that. Casey may have thought "OK, you want this baby, you care for it." imo
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 12:03 PM
http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547 (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)
I looked on this link but they have not added the recordings yet. I posted it in case anyone wanted to look at the other info. released.
Thanks!! :)
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:03 PM
And "they" hired a criminal defense attorney for "them". Not Casey. JMO.
I have never heard of a criminal defense lawyer doing PR work to change the publics opinion of someone who isn't in need of one in the first place.:shrug:
Regina.Lampert
09-12-2008, 12:03 PM
In the past two weeks LE has been extremely silent
I think LE regrets:
Arresting Casey so early in the in the investigation
They thought she would crack in jail..she didn't
Now they've lost opportunities to listen in and follow her
Releasing all the info on decomp, chloroform, dna from hair samples etc.
They thought this would put pressure on Casey to tell her family something...if anything they are more firmly standing in her corner
And now the public has gone insane and have turned the Anthony home into a war zone
It's the world against the Anthonys
I don't think we're going to hear much more from LE until formal charges are filed...no more drips
Unfortunately, LE's strategies have not played out well in this case
Dija miss the latest "drip?" LE has released the video tape of the monster's interview with LE right after she was arrested. Stay tuned, somebody will post the link to them soon, imo.
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Can someone pls tell me how I can contact CW? TY
Send her a private message. You click on her name and it will drop down a menu and give you the option to send her a private message. Unless you are reporting me for something then ignore those instructions they are bogus and I know nothing of how to contact her. :lol:
Hope you know i'm joking about the latter part of my post.
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
I thought someone it was Amy.. I guess I'm going to go against my better judgement and buy it to see or just read it while I'm at the check out line.:D
Gotta run to Walmart on my lunch...shall I pick it up for us?:biggrin:
Velouria
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
I think it's a combination of Cindy and Casey. I've seen how controlling people can "take over" and it always makes me want to scream! Cindy enabled Casey not to fulfill her parental role by her controlling. If Casey ever even TRIED to fulfill her "mom role", would Cindy have been able to let her do it her way? Or would she have criticized everything she did? I don't think Cindy ALLOWED Casey to contribute to the care of Caylee and I don't think Casey wanted to anyway. But not wanting to may have been a result of Cindy not letting her. I just think it was a combination of the both of them.
..........:beer:
tashi
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
If Cindy and Casey had been texting one another all the time she was out of the house and Caylee had been missing ....and Casey did not even tell her mom about Caylee being "kidnapped" .....well that does not make sense.
Even if you don't call 911 wouldn't you call your mom and say mom help
I don't know what to do?
Nothing in this case makes much sense to normal people....
Every time I hear something else I say to myself how could that be.
that is not even logical.
Nothing in this case makes sense to me either...
Maybe that's a good thing;)
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
IMO opinion that will come back to haunt him in court. Pros. won't pass up on that.Hey, bella, good to read you. Yep, a lot of 'splainin' to do. imo
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
Partying while daughter "missing".
Deleted over 200 pics of Caylee
Random shower/bath @ friends house.
day2day
09-12-2008, 12:05 PM
I am not sure. If I had my way Everything would be released because i'm wanting to know everything LE has BUT I know they have to keep things close to the vest and protect the integrity of the case. I don't have to be happy about it but I do understand it.
:punch:<~~~~~ me... for being nosey and anxiously impatient. lol
:punch: one for me to Reb..i am gettin impatient with ya!
:seeya:
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:05 PM
She testified to that at the bond hearing, but IMHO that was made up after she called 911 and was already trying to cover for Casey. In the 911 call she said she'd been looking for her daughter for a month and had finally found her but her granddaughter was missing. I don't know how she thinks she can get away with lying on the stand under oath when it's on tape. Jeesh.
What about the part they caught on the recording when they were being transfered. Casey said"give me one more day" CA replied "Iv'e given you 30 days". ummm interesting.
need2no
09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
Statements that make no sense to normal people. Feel free to add.
Not knowing how to get ahold of the nanny in emergency.
Having to vaca to bond with your own child.
Elaborate walk through of the employment lies only to admit no employment
The body in my granddaughter's (or daughter's, depending on how you heard it) car is not my granddaughter
There was no odor when the car was towed...no odor.
It was rotting food in the car..
Maybe she hit something...a squirrel
Get off your asses and find Caylee/no I don't want any more searchers
We know who has her/we don't know who has her/ the people who have her are being watched/please don't take her any further into the mountains of Georgia.
She was wearing....by the grandfather
I suddenly remember I was watching a food channel show
And there were the gas cans
A borrowed shovel
Elaborate lies over car repair
First she was at the nanny's apt.
Nanny and Sam take child from park, gives her a script.
Kidnappers are being watched.
She says "she is close"
Cindy says her daughter doesn't know where Caylee is.
Thanks guys...keep em coming and add em to the list
No, I'm not giving you another day, I've given you a month.
There was contact everyday, if we didn't talk she would send text or voice messages... Yet Casey's phone was disconnected on July 8th.
"I truly believe Casey knows who has Caylee but it's code name. That's why they can't find that person just yet.”
"I think Casey trusted her with the same person she has trusted her with for a long time and that person has betrayed her and has since then been threatening her and that is why she can't be 100 percent honest in everything that she is telling people," Anthony said.
George rotating his own tires.
Certified letter notice left on the front door for ???????? days before it was noticed.
Cleaning fluid in Casey's car trunk.
Cindy taking the pants out of the car which smelled of decomp and washing them.
I already lost one and I'm not losing another one.
The father didn't want to be a part of Caylee's life. (CA)
The father never knew he was the father and we will never release his name out of respect for him and his family. (LA)
Kathlb
09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
I agree. I thought the things early on showed "cover up mode" and as the time has gone on, I'm even more convinced of it. And think about it....how long does a person stay in denial before they finally begin to realize what has happened? :confused: I don't believe they are in denial either. If they were only in denial, then why so many "cover up lies"? Lies wouldn't be necessary if you're just in denial.
All she would have had to say (and everyone would have been falling all over themselves in sympathy for her) is when they found the evidence in the trunk... "OMG, I am praying it isn't her, but I'm going to try and keep a positive attitude until we know for sure." MOO
kOOkie1
09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
Send her a private message. You click on her name and it will drop down a menu and give you the option to send her a private message. Unless you are reporting me for something then ignore those instructions they are bogus and I know nothing of how to contact her. :lol:
Hope you know i'm joking about the latter part of my post.
..haha Rebel:)
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
will do:seeya:
You're the best kiddo :seeya:
Nellie
09-12-2008, 12:07 PM
I believe she killed Caylee because she was a nuisance. She interfered with Casey's life too much.
But she really hadn't interfered much in her life....until Cindy kicked her out. So, she was mad at Cindy and killed Casey to "get back at her" and to also "be free"....imo. Up until that point, she wasn't an interference. I can still imagine her telling Cindy as they left...."You'll never see Caylee again"!
summer4meplz
09-12-2008, 12:07 PM
...and besides he never opened the car. It was locked...he just towed it!
has it been confirmed if the car was locked? one theory running around is that casey was trying to lure someone to steal the car by leaving her purse and keys in the car so i was wondering if the windows were down and/or if it was locked...a locked car wouldn't be as enticing i wouldn't think....
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 12:07 PM
Dija miss the latest "drip?" LE has released the video tape of the monster's interview with LE right after she was arrested. Stay tuned, somebody will post the link to them soon, imo.Isn't that great? The written word pales in comparison to the voice inflections, hesitations, etc. imo
nc1948
09-12-2008, 12:07 PM
yup. I'll go ahead and put it inside the quote. so as to maintain the complete list
I can't find my grandaughter but I want to report my car stolen.
day2day
09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
What about the part they caught on the recording when they were being transfered. Casey said"give me one more day" CA replied "Iv'e given you 30 days". ummm interesting.
Good point bella!
kitty1182
09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Partying while daughter "missing".
Deleted over 200 pics of Caylee
Random shower/bath @ friends house.
Good ones..There is another thread for these if you want to post them on there too..:)
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Gotta run to Walmart on my lunch...shall I pick it up for us?:biggrin:
I'm getting ready to run and errand so I'll check it out while I'm waiting on line. I REFUSE to pay for that stuff.
Joan Weiss
09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
has it been confirmed if the car was locked? one theory running around is that casey was trying to lure someone to steal the car by leaving her purse and keys in the car so i was wondering if the windows were down and/or if it was locked...a locked car wouldn't be as enticing i wouldn't think....It was locked, according to Mr. Birch at the tow yard. In the docus, he says George had a key. imo
tashi
09-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Dija miss the latest "drip?" LE has released the video tape of the monster's interview with LE right after she was arrested. Stay tuned, somebody will post the link to them soon, imo.
LOL...I was composing my thoughts at the time, posted it and whaala
LE released something :)
Maybe I should do that each time I'm getting frustrated at the lack of ifo
happy2bme
09-12-2008, 12:09 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
FOX 35's Shannon Butler is gathering the recordings now. Check back momentarily for a complete copy of the recordings.
jbellaj
09-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Hey, bella, good to read you. Yep, a lot of 'splainin' to do. imo
Same here, I've been popping in and out all day.. :seeya:
barskin&co.
09-12-2008, 12:09 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1 (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7418528&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)
FOX 35's Shannon Butler is gathering the recordings now. Check back momentarily for a complete copy of the recordings.
Yippee!!!!
steffaroob4
09-12-2008, 12:10 PM
OUR DUMB STATE: THE CASEY ANTHONY EDITION (http://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/story.asp?id=12610)
Rebel Rouzer
09-12-2008, 12:10 PM
:punch: one for me to Reb..i am gettin impatient with ya!
:seeya:
I think a lot of us are getting impatient because we want so badly for Caylee to be found and for Casey to be brought to justice and the circus to end and the trial to begin. IMO
:seeya:
Nellie
09-12-2008, 12:10 PM
What about the part they caught on the recording when they were being transfered. Casey said"give me one more day" CA replied "Iv'e given you 30 days". ummm interesting.
I've always found that quote interesting. It shows a game between Cindy and Casey and precious little Caylee was the one in the middle of it. It sounds like Cindy had been trying to see Caylee for 30 days and was fed up and Casey's time was up to produce Caylee. That's when Cindy decided to call 911 and put pressure on Casey. It didn't work.....
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