Caylee Anthony Evening Thread 09/11/08

[Brattnt]

I hope its okay to start a new one....

[kakax]

Thanks Bratt!! TY CW!!

Interesting stuff on NG tonight!!

[Brattnt]

Oh foo, I forgot..Thank you CW!...:)

So the family refused polygraphs...I guess it shouldnt surprise me...hammer

[luvinlife]

Thanks Bratt!! TY CW!!

Interesting stuff on NG tonight!!


No kidding I really hate it when LP does that, he just pops in with some new info, why has he never mentioned this before?

[hamebone]

Lets stay on topic Kiddies.

:rose:

[steffaroob4]

Thanks Bratt!! TY CW!!

Interesting stuff on NG tonight!!

Really, I can't watch it, yet.

Is the BH on?

[ginky41]

Ginky here. :seeya:

I just got confirmed as a friend on Casey's Facebook page. Interesting huh? She's got something like 1400 friends. Lots of folks are posting on her wall that they support her and "don't listen to all the negativity....etc."

[Snewpy]

Evening everyone.. just got home, trying to catch with boards and NG simultaneously - not so easy...

Why would you refuse a polygraph? Isn't that a pretty common request in missing children cases? They always want to eliminate family first so they can focus on the "real" suspects and POI's. If you have nothing to hide, why not HELP the LE do their jobs?

Oh wait. That hasn't happened yet in this case. I forgot for a moment that I am in the bizarro world.

Prayers for sweet Caylee..

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

Just click on an unlit candle to start

:rose:

[ginky41]

Lil Bitty? You here tonight to give us a recap of NG?

:cool:

[Snewpy]

TY TY TY TY TY TY TY Cold Water :rose::rose::rose:

Thank you!!!!

LP totally had bugs in the Anthony house. twice on NG tonite he said during the lie detector conversation going on in the Anthony home that he was IN THE RV...neither time did NG call him on this given the whole debate about not talking cuz of the bugs. The guy said he was in his RV watching LE come in and overheard...my goodness.
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OMG good catch! I heard that but it didn't register in my head that he wasn't in the same room, etc. Wow.. wonder why NG didn't call him on it?

[msgatorslayer]

TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.

[kakax]

Lil Bitty? You here tonight to give us a recap of NG?

:cool:

Can you pm me her facebook name?

[ginky41]

Great! Just what she needs. LOL
I bet a lot of people are hoping to run into some of 'slips' of the type!

One of our fellow posters sent a message earlier. She got a response that it wasn't Casey monitoring the site but a friend helping to run the site. Not sure if that's accurate or not - interesting nonetheless.

[~jomomma~]

THANK YOU CW!!!! :seeya:

n/t....Leonard said that the FBI was there asking them to take the polygraph.

they refused

[bluwaters]

Confrontation Erupts Between Lee Anthony, Protesters
HOA Wants Limits On Activity At Anthony House

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

Commotion erupted Thursday between Lee Anthony, brother of Casey Anthony, and some of the many protesters that have become permanent fixtures at the Anthonys' East Orange County home.
When Lee Anthony arrived at his parents' house to the usual group of protesters, one woman claimed that he almost clipped her and she spun around as he pulled into the driveway.

[summer4meplz]

Ginky here. :seeya:

I just got confirmed as a friend on Casey's Facebook page. Interesting huh? She's got something like 1400 friends. Lots of folks are posting on her wall that they support her and "don't listen to all the negativity....etc."


it's moderated and will allow only positive statements...right?

[DeeN]

No surprise there!

Ready.
Right now NG is talking about who the father of Caylee is...
So many people have been talked about as being the dad. According to Casey dad died on way to birthday party in car accident. B'day party was for Caylee.
Casey at one point thought that the father was Jesse Grund the ex-cop. then it was alleged that Jesus Ortiz an old highschool chum who was on Casey's myspace page...at one point. Did die in a car crash. Just not in August on the way to Caylee's b'day party. Jesus Ortiz died in a car accident in MAY...UGGHHH...

[ginky41]

it's moderated and will allow only positive statements...right?

That very well could be the case. It no longer looks like a "private" page. IOW: there is a lot of "help find Caylee" stuff on there. It's not just a social page any longer. IMO.

[AustinsMama]

Can someone please give us a rundown on what's on NG? Sorry I'm at work I can't watch unfortunately. Or PM please.

Thank you so much. =)

[msgatorslayer]

Ready.
Right now NG is talking about who the father of Caylee is...
So many people have been talked about as being the dad. According to Casey dad died on way to birthday party in car accident. B'day party was for Caylee.
Casey at one point thought that the father was Jesse Grund the ex-cop. then it was alleged that Jesus Ortiz an old highschool chum who was on Casey's myspace page...at one point. Did die in a car crash. Just not in August on the way to Caylee's b'day party. Jesus Ortiz died in a car accident in MAY...UGGHHH...

In other words, she doesn't know who the baby daddy is, IMO.

While we were on lockdown, I was reading over at WS. Dr. Phil will be doing a show on Caylee. Let me go find the link.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-look.html

[n/t]

THANK YOU CW!!!! :seeya:

n/t....Leonard said that the FBI was there asking them to take the polygraph.

they refused

How does he know this though?

[bluwaters]

Lee Anthony was waiting for the chance to hit a protester with his car?:eek:

[ginky41]

So was princess rearrested? Geeze..I leave the computer for like, 10 minutes and the story totally changes. I can't keep up!

[AustinsMama]

K; what is up with CaseyA sashaying down the sidewalk like she is on the cat walk as she is arrested? I really think that NG is right and the Shrinks are right; she is Enjoying all of this; it's her moment, she's lived for this; to be famous. Talking to everyone; even adding people on facebook. What does that tell most of you? And, who would try to add her as a "friend" on facebook now? Is it like writing to an inmate that you think is innocent; or what. :slap:

Did she just get arrested?

[MyrDawn]

No kidding I really hate it when LP does that, he just pops in with some new info, why has he never mentioned this before?

Nancy wondered the same thing. She's asked LP what goes on in the A's house about every time he's been on her show, and suddenly he pops out with they were asked to take polygraphs and refused. I don't think she was too happy he'd waited to long to tell her.

JMO

[nellbell]

First off THANK YOU CW :rose::rose::rose:
When they bug a house is it just house or does it include phone or do you do a different bug system for that? I have always wondered how the bug stuff works. Just curious to learn something new. MOO

[concernedmom]

Im not sure Im buying the reason for ALL searches being called off. I am so hoping Caylee has been found and a surprise murder charge is about to hit.

[ginky41]

Im not sure Im buying the reason for ALL searches being called off. I am so hoping Caylee has been found and a surprise murder charge is about to hit.

Do you really think they could keep quiet for this long? I sure hope you're right tho.

Have you guys seen this:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17451650/detail.html

Questions Surround Who Cashed In On Caylee Anthony Video

[~jomomma~]

How does he know this though?

he said Lee was outside, told them they were going to take the test then shortly after came back out and said they were not going to.


in that clip when they show her being arrested...she sure does have that EVIL look on her face...imo!

[summer4meplz]

How does he know this though?

i THINK lee told him.....i'm going to have to watch the rerun i guess...otherwise, the only way he would have known is if he was listening to a bugged house....??

[steffaroob4]

Lee Anthony was waiting for the chance to hit a protester with his car?:eek:

Isn't that just strange...

[Snewpy]

TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...

[msgatorslayer]

One of our fellow posters sent a message earlier. She got a response that it wasn't Casey monitoring the site but a friend helping to run the site. Not sure if that's accurate or not - interesting nonetheless.

A friend? Is there a real friend out there, anywhere? Probably Casey, IMO. Or Lee. I can see Lee keeping up with it. I don't think Casey has any friends. Nobody who knows her really knows her. She's a stranger to them. :mad:

[summer4meplz]

Im not sure Im buying the reason for ALL searches being called off. I am so hoping Caylee has been found and a surprise murder charge is about to hit.


there's been a lot of speculation that they found something Sunday...i don't know how long it takes to do testing...it seems like forever...

[~jomomma~]

TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.


i keep forgetting!! hammer
what was the date she borrowed that shower???

[concernedmom]

Do you really think they could keep quiet for this long? I sure hope you're right tho.

Have you guys seen this:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17451650/detail.html

Questions Surround Who Cashed In On Caylee Anthony Video

I just cant allow myself to think she will not be found .

[ginky41]

i keep forgetting!! hammer
what was the date she borrowed that shower???

Do you mean shovel? LOL.

[luvinlife]

Im not sure Im buying the reason for ALL searches being called off. I am so hoping Caylee has been found and a surprise murder charge is about to hit.



I thought the same thing when I heard it.

[True2Blues]

Ginky here. :seeya:

I just got confirmed as a friend on Casey's Facebook page. Interesting huh? She's got something like 1400 friends. Lots of folks are posting on her wall that they support her and "don't listen to all the negativity....etc."


They showed that on the Orlando Fox news. I noticed there was an area on the left side of the page that said, "Give a gift to Caylee" Is that through paypal by any chance?

[ginky41]

I just cant allow myself to think she will not be found .


I know - sickening isn't it?

[n/t]

he said Lee was outside, told them they were going to take the test then shortly after came back out and said they were not going to.


in that clip when they show her being arrested...she sure does have that EVIL look on her face...imo!

Ahhhh ok. Got it now. Thanks.

I don't know if I believe Leonard. He makes it sound like he and Lee are best buds. He said Lee calls him every day on a previous NG show. Yeah whatever.

[ginky41]

According to the document dump AND Casey's myspace page before it's deletion Casey was with Jesse Grunde that weekend. Tony had gone out of town to NY. Casey posted on the myspace page of a friend Cameron Campano that she got drunk on the 27th (posted on his myspace page and shared a photobucket) and said the following: "Got drunk last night. Threatened to kill someone. Good times."

Well...isn't that something.

[~jomomma~]

Did she just get arrested?

no, she was not arrested, that i know of

[SavannahStar]

Thank you! I promise to use ignore:D

:beer: I trust everyone has read CW's posts at the end of that one thread.

Thank you, CW, for opening us up again!

[MyrDawn]

Yikes NG is just now reporting on the Ortiz dead and going to the birthday party and dying in the carcrash. So they are totally backtracking now; as well....Going back to who is this Childs Father?

I am not sure who I think this childs father is. But I have my suspicions.

Did you all hear LP say that Lee was acting strangely and refused to take a LDT? That they all refused to take a test after agreeing to one? LP; I am just not sure I can believe this guy; he comes out with information that doesnt seem to be true. Why would he just come out with this info tonight? He cant stay out of the media spotlight either? It makes me really sick you guys! :eek:

If Jesus Ortiz was Caylee's father and he died in a car accident on the way to her birthday party, he must have been coming from the moon. He died in May and her birthday is in August. :rolleyes:

http://www.zimbio.com/Casey+Anthony/articles/23/Jesus+Ortiz+Most+Likely+Not+Caylee+Marie+Anthony

JMO

[concernedmom]

Ahhhh ok. Got it now. Thanks.

I don't know if I believe Leonard. He makes it sound like he and Lee are best buds. He said Lee calls him every day on a previous NG show. Yeah whatever.

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmo

[trich]

TY TY TY TY TY TY TY Cold Water :rose::rose::rose:

Thank you!!!!

LP totally had bugs in the Anthony house. twice on NG tonite he said during the lie detector conversation going on in the Anthony home that he was IN THE RV...neither time did NG call him on this given the whole debate about not talking cuz of the bugs. The guy said he was in his RV watching LE come in and overheard...my goodness.
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Lee came out and told him they were first going to take the lie detector test but then changed their minds.

[msgatorslayer]

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...

Since it was the day after she dumped the car, maybe she was worried it would be found, fast. So she shut her phone off so her Mom couldn't call her.

She went back to the scene of the crime. Covering her tracks. Disposing of things.

I don't know. Something was up for her to go from 25-50 calls everyday down to nothing.

[ginky41]

They showed that on the Orlando Fox news. I noticed there was an area on the left side of the page that said, "Give a gift to Caylee" Is that through paypal by any chance?


I'm not seeing a link like that....but I'm no Facebook pro either. Lots of links to helpfindcaylee.com. And, all the family's direct phone numbers are right there in the open as well.

[bookie]

"Because I had the baby in my hands. He was right next to me and he didn't even stop. Of course I hit the car to make him stop because there's a baby. What is he going to do run us over?" protester Stephanie Phillips said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

Do any of these people think? She shouldn't have a baby at any protest much less one that has already involved violence. IMO she's no better than Casey. She is knowingly endangering a baby.

[~jomomma~]

Do you mean shovel? LOL.

no, i mean when she went to shower at someone's house...LOL!!

[SavannahStar]

Nancy wondered the same thing. She's asked LP what goes on in the A's house about every time he's been on her show, and suddenly he pops out with they were asked to take polygraphs and refused. I don't think she was too happy he'd waited to long to tell her.

JMO

I'm not sure what of anything I believe that comes out of that man's mouth.

[summer4meplz]

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...


maybe it needed a charge and since she was with tony, she didn't need to call anyone?

[luvinlife]

Lee came out and told him they were first going to take the lie detector test but then changed their minds.



I wonder why they changed their minds, surely LP has the answer to that, no.

[msgatorslayer]

i keep forgetting!! hammer
what was the date she borrowed that shower???

We all need paper calanders to keep track of dates, lol. I thought of this other day cause I get so confused. Still haven't bought one though.

[OneUp]

Ginky here. :seeya:

I just got confirmed as a friend on Casey's Facebook page. Interesting huh? She's got something like 1400 friends. Lots of folks are posting on her wall that they support her and "don't listen to all the negativity....etc.":eek:
Ginky girl! You have better self control than I...makes you wonder about people when they give support to someone who admits themselves that they have been stupid and led to the current situation (whatever you think that situation is...this is per her statements to LE that she should have reported Caylee gone).
I had looked about for a MySpace or facebook, but decided I couldn't use that knowledge for anything positive...so i dropped it.
JMO.

[concernedmom]

Since it was the day after she dumped the car, maybe she was worried it would be found, fast. So she shut her phone off so her Mom couldn't call her.

She went back to the scene of the crime. Covering her tracks. Disposing of things.

I don't know. Something was up for her to go from 25-50 calls everyday down to nothing.

Does anyone know where to find when her phone was shut off and when she used Amys check at ATT?

[n/t]

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmo


You may be right. Wouldn't that be something. OMG! Can you imagine. :eek:

[bcrmom]

According to the document dump AND Casey's myspace page before it's deletion Casey was with Jesse Grunde that weekend. Tony had gone out of town to NY. Casey posted on the myspace page of a friend Cameron Campano that she got drunk on the 27th (posted on his myspace page and shared a photobucket) and said the following: "Got drunk last night. Threatened to kill someone. Good times."


And didn't Lenny just say that there was no phone activity on the 28th? Hmmmm. Wow. Just Wow.

Hey, I took a break to go to LBs and you'd all split the pad and came here. :) Glad it's back up.

I think I just saw Strawberry Shortcake, The Protester, on NG. :lol:

[trich]

If Jesus Ortiz was Caylee's father and he died in a car accident on the way to her birthday party, he must have been coming from the moon. He died in May and her birthday is in August. :rolleyes:

http://www.zimbio.com/Casey+Anthony/articles/23/Jesus+Ortiz+Most+Likely+Not+Caylee+Marie+Anthony

JMO


Just more of Casey's lies.
She gets so rapped up in them she actually believes them
herself . IMO
but since they are lies she can not remember so therefore it changes .

I agree with the shrink...Casey is enjoying all this .
Again IMO she has no moral compas.

[Joan Weiss]

Confrontation Erupts Between Lee Anthony, Protesters
HOA Wants Limits On Activity At Anthony House

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.htmlLee is beginning to look like the most dangerous Anthony. He was waiting for someone to step into the driveway? And he was going to do what? :chicken:

imo

[MyrDawn]

I'm not sure what of anything I believe that comes out of that man's mouth.

I sure don't believe everything he says. Sometimes I get the feeling he says what he thinks the host of whatever show is on wants to hear or will react the most to.

JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Does anyone know where to find when her phone was shut off and when she used Amys check at ATT?

The 8th is ringing a bell for when her phone was shut off. But don't take my word for it. So many dates...hammer

[MyrDawn]

I agree, and I think Lenny is intentionally scattering this every which way he can, for good reason.

ITA. I think he's doing it so he'll be invited back to the shows again and again.

[ginky41]

:eek:
Ginky girl! You have better self control than I...makes you wonder about people when they give support to someone who admits themselves that they have been stupid and led to the current situation (whatever you think that situation is...this is per her statements to LE that she should have reported Caylee gone).
I had looked about for a MySpace or facebook, but decided I couldn't use that knowledge for anything positive...so i dropped it.
JMO.


I haven't done anything with my "friend" status yet. LOL. I'm pretty sure if I posted something nasty that they could just delete it or not post it something. I'm still figuring out how all this works. I guess I had sorta hoped the page was still private, still personal to her and not a "help find caylee shrine." I say that only b/c in my rosy-colored world I could have posted an encouraging message saying "Casey, please come forward...yadda yadda yadda." No such luck. It looks very much "professional" now for lack of a better term.

[hamebone]

Lee Anthony was waiting for the chance to hit a protester with his car?:eek:

OMG...and she had a baby in her hands...shame on her...shame on him...someone will get hurt if this doesnt stop....I hope Lee doesnt own a gun...and I hope these adult will at the least leave the babies at home...God forbid a child is hurt...

[bcrmom]

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmo

I said that the second day he was there. Sonic Ears or something out there with those tazer guns. Boyz love Toyz, esp when they can play "Spy" with them.

[tashi]

TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.


I know I read somewhere that Casey's phone got turned off by the phone company...not sure if that was a rumor or not. Could that have been during that time period? Anyone remember that?

[SavannahStar]

I sure don't believe everything he says. Sometimes I get the feeling he says what he thinks the host of whatever show is on wants to hear or will react the most to.

JMO

Oh exactly.

[bcrmom]

The 8th is ringing a bell for when her phone was shut off. But don't take my word for it. So many dates...hammer

lenny said the 28th on NG tonight.

[bluwaters]

Isn't that just strange...
He doesn't get it does he? That's all the family needs, Lee getting slapped for assault with a deadly weapon. He actually said that. The woman was holding a baby!

Cindy is going to call DCF to report the protester for putting a baby in harm's way. :no:

I don't agree with children being at these protest, in fact, I don't really support these protests, but they are legally allowed to protest until/if the injunction from the HOA is approved.

This family have all got serious anger control issues. It is very sad.

[SavannahStar]

Lee is beginning to look like the most dangerous Anthony. He was waiting for someone to step into the driveway? And he was going to do what? :chicken:

imo


I think Lee is at the end of his rope. Honestly I can't blame him. All of this is just to much to bear.

[OneUp]

Lee Anthony was waiting for the chance to hit a protester with his car?:eek:
hats how I'm reading that article blu...geesh! When is LE going to make it end? Now he thinks he can run a woman WITH A BABY down with his car!?!?
If they aren't careful it WILL become a mob with pitchforks! Can you imagine if an ambulance had to be called or worse? Lee really has NO excuse, he doesn't have to live there all day and put up with it...he hadn't even been to that house for half a year before this according to his own testimony.
Of course, I'm not sure he told any truths on the stand either...
JMO.

[shelbar53]

I'm not seeing a link like that....but I'm no Facebook pro either. Lots of links to helpfindcaylee.com. And, all the family's direct phone numbers are right there in the open as well.

i dont know how to post links but for the face book link go this mornings thread and look for post 98, the link is there

[Joan Weiss]

The 8th is ringing a bell for when her phone was shut off. But don't take my word for it. So many dates...hammerI wonder if that is when she "bought" the blackberry?

[msgatorslayer]

lenny said the 28th on NG tonight.

BC, we're looking for the date when the phone company shut it off, supposedly, for non payment.:)

[concernedmom]

;)All I know from the NG show is that Padilla says twice that he was in the RV while the Anthony's were in their home debating about whether or not to take a lie detector test.


Yep. Telling wasnt it?

[bluwaters]

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...

What was the date that she passed that check (on Amy's acct :rolleyes:) at the ATT store? Was she paying for a lapsed bill?
Had her service been cut off?

[bookie]

I thought she shouldn't have the baby there. Placing a baby in harms way is not a good thing to do. I'd almost like to see Children's Services called and urged to go out there and investigate whether these protesting parents are acting in a manner consistent with their child's best interests. Knowingly taking your children into a potentially violent and dangerous environment shouldn't be tolerated.
imo



Yes they should.

[msgatorslayer]

What was the date that she passed that check (on Amy's acct :rolleyes:) at the ATT store? Was she paying for a lapsed bill?
Had her service been cut off?

If thats the case, Lenny needshammer. HE should know all of this ,lmao.

[day2day]

Why did they call off all of the searches for Caylee? Can someone explain?
Thanks CW for letting us back in. I will count to 10 before I press submit reply.!:seeya:

[SavannahStar]

;)


Yep. Telling wasnt it?

Yes it's telling IF he was telling the truth, and that's a big IF. You think he isn't in this for his 15 min. of fame? Anything he can throw out there that is salacious?

[shelbar53]

Yikes NG is just now reporting on the Ortiz dead and going to the birthday party and dying in the carcrash. So they are totally backtracking now; as well....Going back to who is this Childs Father?


I am not sure who I think this childs father is. But I have my suspicions.

Did you all hear LP say that Lee was acting strangely and refused to take a LDT? That they all refused to take a test after agreeing to one? LP; I am just not sure I can believe this guy; he comes out with information that doesnt seem to be true. Why would he just come out with this info tonight? He cant stay out of the media spotlight either? It makes me really sick you guys! :eek:


I dont understand what you mean by backtracking? are they alluding to what LP said earlier about paternity being true? {who the real fater is?}

[ginky41]

Why did they call off all of the searches for Caylee? Can someone explain?
Thanks CW for letting us back in. I will count to 10 before I press submit reply.!:seeya:

My rosy-colored glasses on so I'm going to say that perhaps they've found her? (I hope I hope I hope.....)

[tashi]

He doesn't get it does he? That's all the family needs, Lee getting slapped for assault with a deadly weapon. He actually said that. The woman was holding a baby!

Cindy is going to call DCF to report the protester for putting a baby in harm's way. :no:

I don't agree with children being at these protest, in fact, I don't really support these protests, but they are legally allowed to protest until/if the injunction from the HOA is approved.

This family have all got serious anger control issues. It is very sad.


The only one in the family not starting to lose it, is Casey....What a shame. She's the one that needs to crack and I just don't see that happening. IMO she seems more amused than upset by all the drama around her. :mad:

[bcrmom]

All I know from the NG show is that Padilla says twice that he was in the RV while the Anthony's were in their home debating about whether or not to take a lie detector test.


What? Huh? I can't hear yooooou! lol j/k

I know. So either he's wanting us to believe that Lee came out and gave him that info, or for us NOT to believe that he was eavesdropping.

I know he was out there listening. Does he appear to you to be a man that would know he had the tools to listen in, and not listen in? Or fear that he would get caught? Nope. Me neither. He'll obviously do whatever he wants, when he wants, for his own purposes.


:seeya:

[True2Blues]

"Because I had the baby in my hands. He was right next to me and he didn't even stop. Of course I hit the car to make him stop because there's a baby. What is he going to do run us over?" protester Stephanie Phillips said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

Do any of these people think? She shouldn't have a baby at any protest much less one that has already involved violence. IMO she's no better than Casey. She is knowingly endangering a baby.


I think it's Lee who needs to be worried about. He admitted that he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could take a run at them. That is twisted thinking, to go ahead and do it to a woman who is holding a child, regardless of why she's there, is way, way, over the line.

[Joan Weiss]

I think Lee is at the end of his rope. Honestly I can't blame him. All of this is just to much to bear.I don't see what you're talking about. Lee hasn't been hassled at all. He gave extended interviews to the media. He quit giving interviews when his visits with Casey stopped, and we hadn't seen him for quite awhile. Now he's back and writing his own laws. I think he is a big nerd/jerk. I also think he likes being the center of attention, and does those things to get a rise out of the public, not to mention the media. imo

[luvinlife]

BC, we're looking for the date when the phone company shut it off, supposedly, for non payment.:)


I thought that they just couldn't get phone records past July 7 or 8 because the bill wasn't paid, not that it was shut off. I could be wrong, and I don't have link. imo

[day2day]

My rosy-colored glasses on so I'm going to say that perhaps they've found her? (I hope I hope I hope.....)

Hiya ginky:seeya: I hope they have ...this littleone deserves a proper burial. :rose:

[OneUp]

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmoIf Lenny is telling the truth ( who knows about him though? he confuses me...) can someone please tell me why my compassion button is broken if I don't feel sorry for them? Who refuses a poly? It's not court admissable anyway...Of course, guilty people refuse a poly. I was only thinking that everyone was in on purposely confusing the facts, maybe not bringing forth evidence, but IMO refusing a poly (IF it turns out to be true) is a big tell that someone in the group is feeling guilty and worried about being caught at something outright illegal...and that all three are working to keep that under wraps.
Do any of you know of a single missing child case where a poly was refused by family who was found later to be innocent?
I'm sure someone will have a million excuses why one would refuse a poly, but in my book the truth needs not hide its face. The truth really is its own best defense.
JMO.

[bcrmom]

BC, we're looking for the date when the phone company shut it off, supposedly, for non payment.:)


I know. Lenny just said it was off on the 28th-29th and he wasn't sure if the phone was shut off for non-payment or if she had the phone off. But, I bet that's the date when the phone was cut off by the ph co. Wasn't it? Then she goes and steals/buys/borrows another phone.

[rainydays]

I think Lee is at the end of his rope. Honestly I can't blame him. All of this is just to much to bear.


you can't blame him for wanting to run over a woman and her child??

i don't agree with the kids being at the protests but they are and no matter what anguish the anthony family is feeling, i CAN blame lee for wanting to hit a woman holding a baby with his car.

[k_can004]

I thought she shouldn't have the baby there. Placing a baby in harms way is not a good thing to do. I'd almost like to see Children's Services called and urged to go out there and investigate whether these protesting parents are acting in a manner consistent with their child's best interests. Knowingly taking your children into a potentially violent and dangerous environment shouldn't be tolerated.
imo

IMO.... neither should violent or dangerous behavior (be tolerated)

[Joan Weiss]

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmoLenny didn't say that, and Lenny doesn't have the authority to bug the house. That's serious business. imo

[Destini]

What was the date that she passed that check (on Amy's acct :rolleyes:) at the ATT store? Was she paying for a lapsed bill?
Had her service been cut off?

Do we know when she supposedly lost one of her phones? Maybe it was "lost" & then went dead? Then she bought another phone from the ATT store?

[msjoni]

I never liked Lenny. But I think he knows more than he lets on. I think Lenny had that house bugged and was sitting in his RV listening to everything.

jmo

I think he was too.

[Albini]

"Because I had the baby in my hands. He was right next to me and he didn't even stop. Of course I hit the car to make him stop because there's a baby. What is he going to do run us over?" protester Stephanie Phillips said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

Do any of these people think? She shouldn't have a baby at any protest much less one that has already involved violence. IMO she's no better than Casey. She is knowingly endangering a baby.


Wow, bringing a baby to a protest? How silly is that? If Casey did kill her own child, what makes this person think that showing up with a baby in tow is going to make an impact on Casey?

I wouldnt put my 4 in a hundred mile radius of Casy at this point..let alone drive them there.hammer

[bookie]

IMO.... neither should violent or dangerous behavior (be tolerated)



I've seen protestors banging on the Anthony's door despite no trespassing signs in the yard. I've seen protestors fighting with residents in the neighborhood. Those protestors don't care about the law and they don't care about the small children they are putting in harms way. Bringing children to protests that have been violent is not only dangerous behavior but outright stupidity.

[trich]

I don't agree with bringing children to the protests but no matter where a person is standing you don't hit them with your vehicle because they are in the way....what it is ok to run over someone because they are standing where you want to go?( yes I know he did not run over them but it may have been only by the grace of God he didn't.
I don't care how frustrated you are.
You beep the horn and ask them to please move.
What has happened to common decency and doesn't anyone have any maners any more?

[spiritwolf46]

I was completely surprised that the Ice Princess could face up to 50 years on the charges they have against her now.

I did not know this until tonight's NG. It was prolly stated on here before, so sorry if I had missed that.

I think that is terrific! I just hope and pray that they will get her on murder soon.

:seeya:

[msjoni]

Lenny didn't say that, and Lenny doesn't have the authority to bug the house. That's serious business. imo

He might not have the authority but it does not mean he didn't do it.

[Joan Weiss]

IMO.... neither should violent or dangerous behavior (be tolerated)I don't get why some are giving the Anthonys a free pass, and blaming people just for being there. Attacking people on public property is not legal. Period. imo

[bluwaters]

"Because I had the baby in my hands. He was right next to me and he didn't even stop. Of course I hit the car to make him stop because there's a baby. What is he going to do run us over?" protester Stephanie Phillips said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

Do any of these people think? She shouldn't have a baby at any protest much less one that has already involved violence. IMO she's no better than Casey. She is knowingly endangering a baby.

Currently, she is within her rights to be there with her baby. That's just the legal position at the moment.

I don't know about other states, but in Florida, a driver is required to keep his vehicle under control. It is not OK to run into pedestrians, even if you don't like them, what they are doing, or if they are on your property.

OK - now Savannah is going to tell me that it is legal to run over a woman holding a baby. j/k ;)

[day2day]

If Lenny is telling the truth ( who knows about him though? he confuses me...) can someone please tell me why my compassion button is broken if I don't feel sorry for them? Who refuses a poly? It's not court admissable anyway...Of course, guilty people refuse a poly. I was only thinking that everyone was in on purposely confusing the facts, maybe not bringing forth evidence, but IMO refusing a poly (IF it turns out to be true) is a big tell that someone in the group is feeling guilty and worried about being caught at something outright illegal...and that all three are working to keep that under wraps.
Do any of you know of a single missing child case where a poly was refused by family who was found later to be innocent?
I'm sure someone will have a million excuses why one would refuse a poly, but in my book the truth needs not hide its face. The truth really is its own best defense.
JMO.

Steve Groene actually failed his lie detector test-we all know Joseph Duncan was the monster that raped/tortured his ex-wife and children-he allowed Shasta to live

:rose: Shasta
Melinda Duckett refused -we know what happened to her-
:rose: Trenton

Peterson refused IIRC

IIRC Polly Klaas Dad.. wanted a lie detector so that he could be CLEARED so the police could focus on finding the real killer. I also believe he has told other familes of missing children to always take the test ...

jmo

[concernedmom]

Actually Lee does have an excuse, and in my opinion, he has a pretty good excuse. On the other hand, there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this mother to be standing in the driveway of a private residence simply because wants to be a part of the circus and a chance to be on Nancy Grace. They aren't there for Caylee, they are there only for themselves.

imo


Im not making an excuse for a grown man that is responsible for his actions.
Thats the problem with Casey now. Too many excuses for her behavior and no accountability.
Same with the mother who should have left her child at home. This scene could turn violent at any moment and no place for a child.

[True2Blues]

He doesn't get it does he? That's all the family needs, Lee getting slapped for assault with a deadly weapon. He actually said that. The woman was holding a baby!

Cindy is going to call DCF to report the protester for putting a baby in harm's way. :no:

I don't agree with children being at these protest, in fact, I don't really support these protests, but they are legally allowed to protest until/if the injunction from the HOA is approved.

This family have all got serious anger control issues. It is very sad.


Nothing like planning assault with a deadly weapon and being proud of it. It is completely beyond the Anthonys that they are subject to the laws and not allowed to assault others. I think Lee needs a little time in jail to cool down.

There is no excuse under the sun for trying to run over a woman with her child. As you say, the protesters have the right to be there.

It's time LE stops letting the Anthonys get by with this carp. They've been allowed a lot of room, but it's time to stop them. Before another member of that family kills someone.

[OneUp]

I haven't done anything with my "friend" status yet. LOL. I'm pretty sure if I posted something nasty that they could just delete it or not post it something. I'm still figuring out how all this works. I guess I had sorta hoped the page was still private, still personal to her and not a "help find caylee shrine." I say that only b/c in my rosy-colored world I could have posted an encouraging message saying "Casey, please come forward...yadda yadda yadda." No such luck. It looks very much "professional" now for lack of a better term.That is pretty much what my plan was as well. To be friendly and offer to pray with her, heck even be her BBF for life if she would do the right thing. I just didn't think I had the tenacity to keep my anger and disgust in check long enough to do anything positive. I don't think anything would make her tell the truth...but if there is a hope it is through God and prayer. I know a Sociopath doesn't have it in them to accept responsibility or make admissions, but with God anything is possible.
As much as I am disgusted with her actions, God still has the power to help her if she accepts her Earthly consequences and asks Him for forgiveness. I don't think God lets you dodge the consequences of your actions, but He does have the power to give you peace and keep your hiney out of Hell.
IMO anyway

[Joan Weiss]

I don't agree with bringing children to the protests but no matter where a person is standing you don't hit them with your vehicle because they are in the way....what it is ok to run over someone because they are standing where you want to go?( yes I know he did not run over them but it may have been only by the grace of God he didn't.
I don't care how frustrated you are.
You beep the horn and ask them to please move.
What has happened to common decency and doesn't anyone have any maners any more?This is about more than manners. This is about having respect for human life. imo

[bookie]

I don't agree with bringing children to the protests but no matter where a person is standing you don't hit them with your vehicle because they are in the way....what it is ok to run over someone because they are standing where you want to go?( yes I know he did not run over them but it may have been only by the grace of God he didn't.
I don't care how frustrated you are.
You beep the horn and ask them to please move.
What has happened to common decency and doesn't anyone have any maners any more?


I don't think Lee tried to hit anyone. The woman said he was right next to her and she hit the car. With the level of hate spewed at the Anthony's the woman may have overreacted and now it's being blown out of proportion.

[hamebone]

Actually Lee does have an excuse, and in my opinion, he has a pretty good excuse. On the other hand, there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this mother to be standing in the driveway of a private residence simply because wants to be a part of the circus and a chance to be on Nancy Grace. They aren't there for Caylee, they are there only for themselves.

imo


If Lee runs someone over and they die or even hurt ...I doubt his excuse will get him very far...NOW...I agree these people at the very least should keep the children out of it.

[Albini]

True, I wonder why Cindy didn't call Children's Services on her own Daughter.

Amen to that.

:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Nothing like planning assault with a deadly weapon and being proud of it. It is completely beyond the Anthonys that they are subject to the laws and not allowed to assault others. I think Lee needs a little time in jail to cool down.

There is no excuse under the sun for trying to run over a woman with her child. As you say, the protesters have the right to be there.

It's time LE stops letting the Anthonys get by with this carp. They've been allowed a lot of room, but it's time to stop them. Before another member of that family kills someone.Very well said. Bravo! :patriot:

[shelbar53]

cant for the life of me figure out what IIRC means.

[bookie]

Currently, she is within her rights to be there with her baby. That's just the legal position at the moment.

I don't know about other states, but in Florida, a driver is required to keep his vehicle under control. It is not OK to run into pedestrians, even if you don't like them, what they are doing, or if they are on your property.

OK - now Savannah is going to tell me that it is legal to run over a woman holding a baby. j/k ;)


I didn't say it wasn't legal for her to have her child there. I said it's dangerous and stupid and that she is no better than the person she is protesting against but I guess since she is protesting while she endangers her child it's acceptable to put a child in danger?

[hamebone]

Actually Lee does have an excuse, and in my opinion, he has a pretty good excuse. On the other hand, there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this mother to be standing in the driveway of a private residence simply because wants to be a part of the circus and a chance to be on Nancy Grace. They aren't there for Caylee, they are there only for themselves.

imo


If Lee runs someone over and they die or even get hurt ...I doubt his excuse will get him very far...NOW...I agree these people at the very least should keep the children out of it.

[True2Blues]

I don't get why some are giving the Anthonys a free pass, and blaming people just for being there. Attacking people on public property is not legal. Period. imo

No and it's time LE stopped letting the Anthonys do whatever they want and get away with it.

[concernedmom]

Particularly with his own team member stationed inside the home.

Exactly. ITA

[OneUp]

OMG...and she had a baby in her hands...shame on her...shame on him...someone will get hurt if this doesnt stop....I hope Lee doesnt own a gun...and I hope these adult will at the least leave the babies at home...God forbid a child is hurt...God forbid ANOTHER child is hurt at the hands of an Anthony. And for Petes sake people, Leave your BABIES at home...children do need to learn their parents values, but not at a protest where violent outbursts have occurred day after day. Hopefully some parents will learn not to place their children within the reach of this family.
JMO.

[bcrmom]

Particularly with his own team member stationed inside the home.


True but what you're missing is that he didn't have to put any bugs in the house at all. I know there's equipment that he can just turn on from his trailer and listen to whatever's going on inside that house. Unless they are running washers, dryers, and have the TV on really loud all day and night, he could hear what they were saying.

[msgatorslayer]

I know. Lenny just said it was off on the 28th-29th and he wasn't sure if the phone was shut off for non-payment or if she had the phone off. But, I bet that's the date when the phone was cut off by the ph co. Wasn't it? Then she goes and steals/buys/borrows another phone.

Oh, I didn't hear him say he wasn't sure if the phone was shut off or not for non-payment. I just remember him saying that NG should ask Nate if he knew what Casey was doing during that time frame [28-29]

Thankfully, it repeats in the 30 min.:D

[Joan Weiss]

Actually Lee does have an excuse, and in my opinion, he has a pretty good excuse. On the other hand, there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this mother to be standing in the driveway of a private residence simply because wants to be a part of the circus and a chance to be on Nancy Grace. They aren't there for Caylee, they are there only for themselves.

imoYou don't have a clue why they're there. imo

[~jomomma~]

I've seen protestors banging on the Anthony's door despite no trespassing signs in the yard. I've seen protestors fighting with residents in the neighborhood. Those protestors don't care about the law and they don't care about the small children they are putting in harms way. Bringing children to protests that have been violent is not only dangerous behavior but outright stupidity.

child endangerment, in my eyes

[Velouria]

Cindy is going to call DCF to report the protester for putting a baby in harm's way. :no:



Pot, meet kettle.:seeya:

[Destini]

I don't get why some are giving the Anthonys a free pass, and blaming people just for being there. Attacking people on public property is not legal. Period. imo

If the Anthonys would just stay inside, eventually I believe the protesting would stop. Every time they come outside & show their face, pound signs in the ground, confront these people, etc., they just encourage more to show up. They keep coming hoping for these confrontations. Not that I don't believe they have a right to be there, because they do.

The Anthonys have a beautiful back yard. Why not just hang out back there if they need to get outside. Makes me think they want the drama, too.

[tashi]

cant for the life of me figure out what IIRC means.


If I recall correctly

[True2Blues]

cant for the life of me figure out what IIRC means.

If I Recall Correctly. That one got me for a long time too.

[k_can004]

I've seen protestors banging on the Anthony's door despite no trespassing signs in the yard. I've seen protestors fighting with residents in the neighborhood. Those protestors don't care about the law and they don't care about the small children they are putting in harms way. Bringing children to protests that have been violent is not only dangerous behavior but outright stupidity.


I do not agree with people having thier children there... but I sure as heck don't agree with an angry person trying to use thier vehicle to get the point across... They need to show thier anger to the person responsible for a "missing" CAYLEE... jmooc

[msgatorslayer]

cant for the life of me figure out what IIRC means.

If I recall correctly.:)

[Joan Weiss]

Where was that protester's respect for her child's human life, when she placed it in harms way?So Lee gets to drive wherever he wants, with no regard for human life? Try that argument in court, see how far you get. imo

[rainydays]

There would be no violence or dangerous behavior, but for the uncivilized "protesters" there to inject themselves into this case, and incite trouble.

imo

there would also be no violence or dangerous behavior if casey would not have killed her daughter and lied from day 1. jmo

[hamebone]

As far as the issues with the protesters (GOF)...it is really irrelevant. Some think that they have the right to be there. Myself and others respect the right to protest but think that they should not be disrupting a neighborhood like this.
The real crux of the matter is this: Will Casey come out and say what she knows? NO. So while they are angry and protesting the missing Caylee...they are having about as much impact on getting Casey to talk as LE throwing her back in the slammer time and time again.

I refer to Ryan Paisley (document dump and listed as BFF on Casey's cell phone has known her for 17 years and says she is a liar and has been one for a long time): She won't talk unless there is something IN IT for her. And by that I am assuming that unless there is NOOOOO jail time...there will be no admission of anything. Hence, bring all the babies and signs you want. File all the charges of fraud and theft you want. She WILL NOT talk because she KILLED that child. And there is nothing in it for her to lead LE to her remains or CHANGE her story to the truth or some other version of it because ZANNY has to be the LAST person she CLAIMS had Caylee so if CAYLEE is found dead in the woods somewhere that CASEY didn't see her last.

Hey LB....I wonder if LE can keep charging her...if they have more stuff to charge her with that is..til it runs up to 50 years and they offer her say 25 years wop ..for the truth?

[spiritwolf46]

There would be no violence or dangerous behavior, but for the uncivilized "protesters" there to inject themselves into this case, and incite trouble.

imo


I have yet to see any of the protesters being uncivillized. I hear them yelling at Casey, but the only uncivilized people I have seen, laying hands on others, are none other than the Anthony's.

JMO, but this just shows this family's dynamics. If they don't want the protesters there, hating them, then they should stop with their lying, spinning and made up stories and perhaps tell the truth. That actually MAY bring a little peace and perhaps some kindness towards them. But, they don't have it in them. Not one of them do.

So, the uncivilized people IMO, are the ones who have caused this whole mess and circus.

[Joan Weiss]

I've seen protestors banging on the Anthony's door despite no trespassing signs in the yard. I've seen protestors fighting with residents in the neighborhood. Those protestors don't care about the law and they don't care about the small children they are putting in harms way. Bringing children to protests that have been violent is not only dangerous behavior but outright stupidity.So the whole group is responsible for a few? You don't really know what they care about, do you?

[True2Blues]

Where was that protester's respect for her child's human life, when she placed it in harms way?


If Lee Anthony wasn't determined to run someone over, there would have been no 'harm's way'. Purposely running over people is against the law.

[bookie]

If the Anthonys would just stay inside, eventually I believe the protesting would stop. Every time they come outside & show their face, pound signs in the ground, confront these people, etc., they just encourage more to show up. They keep coming hoping for these confrontations. Not that I don't believe they have a right to be there, because they do.

The Anthonys have a beautiful back yard. Why not just hang out back there if they need to get outside. Makes me think they want the drama, too.



Lee, George and Cindy have not been charged with a crime nor have they been accused of a crime. They have the same rights that you, I, or anyone else has. They shouldn't have to hide in their home or in their backyard. They have more right to be in their own yard then ANYONE else does. :rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

Don't jump all over me if I get this analogy wrong, but it seems to me like Lee is running interference for his parents by taking the heat on himself. :shrug:No, he and they are creating the disturbance. They are all approaching the protesters on public property. They are wrong. imo

[bookie]

If Lee Anthony wasn't determined to run someone over, there would have been no 'harm's way'. Purposely running over people is against the law.

Lee wasn't a part of the fights that broke out in the yard on Friday. Fights that could have resulted with small children being hurt. So your wrong. There is "harm's way" there that has nothing to do with Lee, George or Cindy.

[Joan Weiss]

Lee, George and Cindy have not been charged with a crime nor have they been accused of a crime. They have the same rights that you, I, or anyone else has. They shouldn't have to hide in their home or in their backyard. They have more right to be in their own yard then ANYONE else does. :rolleyes:Sure they do. So why do they go over to the sidewalk? Why do they appear with their Hammers
and sticks at precisely the time that the protesters are there, and go get in the protesters faces?

[baywench]

As far as the issues with the protesters (GOF)...it is really irrelevant. Some think that they have the right to be there. Myself and others respect the right to protest but think that they should not be disrupting a neighborhood like this.
The real crux of the matter is this: Will Casey come out and say what she knows? NO. So while they are angry and protesting the missing Caylee...they are having about as much impact on getting Casey to talk as LE throwing her back in the slammer time and time again.

I refer to Ryan Paisley (document dump and listed as BFF on Casey's cell phone has known her for 17 years and says she is a liar and has been one for a long time): She won't talk unless there is something IN IT for her. And by that I am assuming that unless there is NOOOOO jail time...there will be no admission of anything. Hence, bring all the babies and signs you want. File all the charges of fraud and theft you want. She WILL NOT talk because she KILLED that child. And there is nothing in it for her to lead LE to her remains or CHANGE her story to the truth or some other version of it because ZANNY has to be the LAST person she CLAIMS had Caylee so if CAYLEE is found dead in the woods somewhere that CASEY didn't see her last.

As usual right on LB. I think everyone agrees that there has been bad behavior between all parties regarding the protestors. I have not been in touch really today. Has it been verified that she will not go to jail again for the new charges? jmo

[bookie]

So the whole group is responsible for a few? You don't really know what they care about, do you?


I know that the ones who bring their children there don't give a darn about the well being of those children. Their actions prove that.

[True2Blues]

So the whole group is responsible for a few? You don't really know what they care about, do you?

It doesn't matter what those people did weeks ago. Lee Anthony tried to run someone over with a car. Assault with a deadly weapon. Pre-planned assault, according to him. He has no right to try to hurt or kill other people. That's the bottom line.

If that isn't bad enough, this poor grieving man tried to run over a child and didn't care. You gotta give it to Lee, he represents his family to a tee.

[Joan Weiss]

I have hawk ears and can also hear things way down the road and way up the mountain behind me some nights. Skeery! And, I can smell smoke if someone drives by smoking; or smokes 4 to 5 houses away. That's bad, lol.

I think they bugged the house early on; when they were there searching the first few times. I really do believe that.
I think as soon as LE found out that GAs gasoline report was a false report, their flags went up just like Mine Did. :rose:I thought LP had someone posted in the house?

[Motomom]

One of our fellow posters sent a message earlier. She got a response that it wasn't Casey monitoring the site but a friend helping to run the site. Not sure if that's accurate or not - interesting nonetheless.

Just getting here, havent' watched nancy yet.. That's kind of funny, she's that important that she needs a friend to monitor her facebook?? Sounds a bit odd.. wonder who that friend is, I'm surprised she has many left.. if it's a friend.

[Takotna]

Quote:
Originally Posted by msgatorslayer
TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.


I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...


Here's an idea - Remember the story Casey told Lee on the jail phone - the one abour switching sim cards, saving to the phone, saving to the sim card,,,,etc? Lee asked her about getting the BlackJack - it sounded like she'd gotten it recently (I'll have to go back and read this).

When did she get the BlackJack?

Maybe....During the 24hour period her phone wasn't pinging she took the sim card out and/or turned it off so pings wouldn't happen. Then, she lost it, got it wet - or something like that. So she had to get a new phone - the BlackJack. Does anyone remember where the AT&T store was? I think she just gave Lee the street name.

I'll find the transcript of the jail call for the details. Casey would probably know about pings but not the specifics. The best thing to do would be to ditch the phone completely. I think the speck of truth in the cell phone story may be the sim card - IMO she couldn't bring herself to part with it because it was full of all her 'friends'. Also, pictures are saved to the phone (at least on mine) there could be other things that save to a phone that Casey would want to be rid of too?:shrug:

Just MO - half-baked idea.

Any thoughts?

[bluwaters]

Steve Groene actually failed his lie detector test-we all know Joseph Duncan was the monster that raped/tortured his ex-wife and children-he allowed Shasta to live

:rose: Shasta
Melinda Duckett refused -we know what happened to her-
:rose: Trenton

Peterson refused IIRC

IIRC Polly Klaas Dad.. wanted a lie detector so that he could be CLEARED so the police could focus on finding the real killer. I also believe he has told other familes of missing children to always take the test ...

jmo
Marc Klaas has been critical of the Anthony's failure to take a LDT.
As I see it, the results of the test itself are not reliable, but unwillingness to take the test when a child is missing speaks loudly.
Why would anyone not take it if it helps to further the investigation?

[kakax]

If I recall correctly.:)

A new one should be IKIRC...I know I recall correctly LOL!!

So Cindy is going to file charges with DCF? Any other news...been running around getting kids backpacks together.

[Joan Weiss]

I know that the ones who bring their children there don't give a darn about the well being of those children. Their actions prove that.I don't think there would BE any violence, if the Anthonys stayed on their property. I don't see the protesters attacking them, I see them approaching the protesters. The Anthonys are creating the dangerous atmosphere. The Anthonys are dangerous. imo

[OneUp]

I wonder if that is when she "bought" the blackberry?Perhaps she actually DID have another phone for a few days and consequently lost it. May be that blackjack that a few folks saw her with and then wondered why she no longer had? ...another example of her lying before anyone knows to question?
JMO
....BTW, I can't think of ANY justification for Lee to purposely hit someone with a baby...The baby can't help it that she/he was there. Shame on the mom, but double shame on Lee. I cannot see any justification to run over a baby with ones car.:cuss: He is lucky a mob didn't take him down! Shame for going after a female (and helpless baby), again.
JMO.

[bookie]

I have yet to see any of the protesters being uncivillized. I hear them yelling at Casey, but the only uncivilized people I have seen, laying hands on others, are none other than the Anthony's.

JMO, but this just shows this family's dynamics. If they don't want the protesters there, hating them, then they should stop with their lying, spinning and made up stories and perhaps tell the truth. That actually MAY bring a little peace and perhaps some kindness towards them. But, they don't have it in them. Not one of them do.

So, the uncivilized people IMO, are the ones who have caused this whole mess and circus.


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CbBKmVjN7sM

No Anthony's involved.

[tiny paw-prints]

True, I wonder why Cindy didn't call Children's Services on her own Daughter.

Cindy didn't and wouldn't contact them because she's aware of the family's dysfunction--she's a participant; she's part of the problem!!

While Casey was employed during 2006, I wonder why Cindy took an interest in knowing who was babysitting Caylee during that time, but didn't take any interest knowing about ZFG for nearly 2 years? Sheesh.

[bcrmom]

I have hawk ears and can also hear things way down the road and way up the mountain behind me some nights. Skeery! And, I can smell smoke if someone drives by smoking; or smokes 4 to 5 houses away. That's bad, lol.

I think they bugged the house early on; when they were there searching the first few times. I really do believe that.
I think as soon as LE found out that GAs gasoline report was a false report, their flags went up just like Mine Did. :rose:

Legally, LE would have had to have a warrant to bug the joint. Not saying they haven't had a sealed warrant to do so that we aren't privy to but I heard THs today saying they hadn't done it yet. Yeah, like they'd know.

That said, I don't think LE would have told LP that they bugged the place. LP could have assumed it was bugged but would take it upon himself to get his own dirt on the family cuz he knew LE wouldn't tell him what they had heard.

Following me on this? :)

[kakax]

Quote:
Originally Posted by msgatorslayer
TY CW.

For a 24 hr period between the 28-29th, Casey had no phone activity. Hmmm, that was the day after she dumped the car. She had groceries when TonE picked her up. WHAT was she up to for those 24hrs?

LP said NG should ask Nate if he knows what she was doing.





Here's an idea - Remember the story Casey told Lee on the jail phone - the one abour switching sim cards, saving to the phone, saving to the sim card,,,,etc? Lee asked her about getting the BlackJack - it sounded like she'd gotten it recently (I'll have to go back and read this).

When did she get the BlackJack?

Maybe....During the 24hour period her phone wasn't pinging she took the sim card out and/or turned it off so pings wouldn't happen. Then, she lost it, got it wet - or something like that. So she had to get a new phone - the BlackJack. Does anyone remember where the AT&T store was? I think she just gave Lee the street name.

I'll find the transcript of the jail call for the details. Casey would probably know about pings but not the specifics. The best thing to do would be to ditch the phone completely. I think the speck of truth in the cell phone story may be the sim card - IMO she couldn't bring herself to part with it because it was full of all her 'friends'. Also, pictures are saved to the phone (at least on mine) there could be other things that save to a phone that Casey would want to be rid of too?:shrug:

Just MO - half-baked idea.

Any thoughts?



Do you really think she got a blackjack? I was assumming this was another lie to explain why she didn't have phone numbers.

[hamebone]

Marc Klaas has been critical of the Anthony's failure to take a LDT.
As I see it, the results of the test itself are not reliable, but unwillingness to take the test when a child is missing speaks loudly.
Why would anyone not take it if it helps to further the investigation?

Did LP say they at first they agreed to take it...but Lee talked them out of it?

[Destini]

Lee, George and Cindy have not been charged with a crime nor have they been accused of a crime. They have the same rights that you, I, or anyone else has. They shouldn't have to hide in their home or in their backyard. They have more right to be in their own yard then ANYONE else does. :rolleyes:

They certainly have that right, but if they want to stop the circus in their front yard it would help if they used a little restraint. I know I wouldn't be out there encouraging it if I were in their shoes. :rolleyes:

[trich]

I can't believe any of the protesters think that by protesting they would get Casey to admit her guilt.
I think they are just so upset and ,excuse the exression ,but "pissed" off at all the lies and deceitful ways of all the Anthonys that protesting is the only way to let out their frustrations and sadness about Caylee.

Actually I do not believe there is anything that will move Casey to do the right thing because she has never ever had to do the right thing.
she has no conscious.

[nana6]

Don't jump all over me if I get this analogy wrong, but it seems to me like Lee is running interference for his parents by taking the heat on himself. :shrug:

I think I agree with you. Lee is living with a father who has a very bad temper and a mother who can't keep quiet. He has to deal with Casey and what she may have done and yet try to get something out of her. He may not be the bad guy here:shrug:

[bluwaters]

I didn't say it wasn't legal for her to have her child there. I said it's dangerous and stupid and that she is no better than the person she is protesting against but I guess since she is protesting while she endangers her child it's acceptable to put a child in danger?
Lee Anthony was the one who put the child in danger.
ETA: I don't know her history. Perhaps she has killed a child and disposed of the body.
If she has done that, then you are correct, she is no better than the person she is protesting against.

[day2day]

Marc Klaas has been critical of the Anthony's failure to take a LDT.
As I see it, the results of the test itself are not reliable, but unwillingness to take the test when a child is missing speaks loudly.
Why would anyone not take it if it helps to further the investigation?

Gosh blu...You know if your child/grandchild was missing you would do ANYTHING possible to help find her/him. I have never in my life seen a family that has been so unwilling to help. It really breaks my heart.
I will never forget Cindy saying she did not want volunteers to help Tim search for a "dead Caylee"...it spoke right to my heart. jmo..

[baywench]

I think it's devasting that the search for Caylee is off. It sickens me that Cindy, George and Lee are protecting their daughter instead of standing up for their helpless granddaughter. Why?? To show Casey that she can always get away with things and they will always protect her and make things better for her?? When does it stop?? I use to think George and Cindy were victims as well...but I know feel they are cold, heartless people. It's their house...they don't have to "live" by Jose Baez's rules. If they want to question Casey, they can. It's their house. If Casey doesn't like it, she can go back to jail...or move in with Baez and his wife.

Great post. I am hoping that LE knows exactly what they are doing and will charge exactly when the time is right. They have proven so far that they had things well in hand. I don't believe they've completely showed their hand. Well, that's sure what I'm hoping. So far so good. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

I know that the ones who bring their children there don't give a darn about the well being of those children. Their actions prove that.What actions? The only action I see are the Anthonys provoking the crowd. imo

[True2Blues]

Lee wasn't a part of the fights that broke out in the yard on Friday. Fights that could have resulted with small children being hurt. So your wrong. There is "harm's way" there that has nothing to do with Lee, George or Cindy.

One fight, two guys. The police were called it was taken care of. Neither of them tried to harm a child.

Lee admits that he tried to run over a woman and a CHILD. He acted like a donkey yesterday, leaning down and threatening a woman who was not breaking the law, threatening the man who was talking to him.

Lee is a violent person. What he did on purpose, could have maimed or killed a woman and a child, neither of whom were threatening his life in any way. He is out of control and will be the next Anthony who needs bailing out.

[bookie]

I don't think there would BE any violence, if the Anthonys stayed on their property. I don't see the protesters attacking them, I see them approaching the protesters. The Anthonys are creating the dangerous atmosphere. The Anthonys are dangerous. imo


The Anthony's were INSIDE their own home bothering no one when protestors started beating on their door. But hey!!!!let's give those lawbreakers a free pass because they are protesting another lawbreaker. :rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

I think I agree with you. Lee is living with a father who has a very bad temper and a mother who can't keep quiet. He has to deal with Casey and what she may have done and yet try to get something out of her. He may not be the bad guy here:shrug:If you think he's trying to get something out of her, I've got a bridge to sell you. In Nevada. imo

[spiritwolf46]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CbBKmVjN7sM

No Anthony's involved.

I have seen this. My post was about the protesters being uncivilized towards the Anthony's or the opposite.

Thanks for writing to me! :seeya:

[summer4meplz]

I was completely surprised that the Ice Princess could face up to 50 years on the charges they have against her now.

I did not know this until tonight's NG. It was prolly stated on here before, so sorry if I had missed that.

I think that is terrific! I just hope and pray that they will get her on murder soon.

:seeya:

so can you add 16 years to the 50,,,16 from the original charge and 50 from the new charges? 66 years in jail would make her 88 when she gets out....?

[tashi]

Legally, LE would have had to have a warrant to bug the joint. Not saying they haven't had a sealed warrant to do so that we aren't privy to but I heard THs today saying they hadn't done it yet. Yeah, like they'd know.

That said, I don't think LE would have told LP that they bugged the place. LP could have assumed it was bugged but would take it upon himself to get his own dirt on the family cuz he knew LE wouldn't tell him what they had heard.

Following me on this? :)


Maybe LP got all the inside scoop from the woman that was inside the house guarding/babysitting Casey...She had to have been privy to what was going on.

[OneUp]

Actually Lee does have an excuse, and in my opinion, he has a pretty good excuse. On the other hand, there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this mother to be standing in the driveway of a private residence simply because wants to be a part of the circus and a chance to be on Nancy Grace. They aren't there for Caylee, they are there only for themselves.

imoCan anyone tell me if this mother was holding a protest sign? If she was not, then how would Lee know what she was doing there? She could have come to talk sense into a relative and get them home...she could have been a friend of a neighbor urging them home....IMO he was just lookig for another vulnerable victim. FYI, NONE of these people are protesting on LEE'S property or at LEE'S home.
JMO.

[True2Blues]

I think I agree with you. Lee is living with a father who has a very bad temper and a mother who can't keep quiet. He has to deal with Casey and what she may have done and yet try to get something out of her. He may not be the bad guy here:shrug:

He intentionally tried to run over a woman and her child. To me, that's a bad guy. There's no excuse for that.

[Motomom]

Lee, George and Cindy have not been charged with a crime nor have they been accused of a crime. They have the same rights that you, I, or anyone else has. They shouldn't have to hide in their home or in their backyard. They have more right to be in their own yard then ANYONE else does. :rolleyes:

I'm reading backwards tonight and I'm not sure what all has gone on. The Anthonys have a very nice back yard. I imagine it may be painful for them to go back there right now, but regardless, I'd bet money that they didnt' frequent their front yard as much as they do now. They should avoid the front yard when the protesters are out there if at all possible IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

The Anthony's were INSIDE their own home bothering no one when protestors started beating on their door. But hey!!!!let's give those lawbreakers a free pass because they are protesting another lawbreaker. :rolleyes:Yeah, everyone who ever showed up on the sidewalk is responsible for that. :rolleyes:
imo

[Wok Inn]

Sure they do. So why do they go over to the sidewalk? Why do they appear with their Hammers
and sticks at precisely the time that the protesters are there, and go get in the protesters faces?

Frankly, if I heard some of that hate-filled garbage being directed towards me, if I had to go out in my yard or felt I needed to confront protesters, I would go out with a weapon for self defense. Who knows how out of hand this could get?

Additionally, I feel that the grandparents are just trying to keep it together as best they can. I don't like that they've created a monster daughter, but I also don't think they have anything to do with the actual disappearance of their granddaughter and want to believe that she's still alive out there.

[bookie]

One fight, two guys. The police were called it was taken care of. Neither of them tried to harm a child.

Lee admits that he tried to run over a woman and a CHILD. He acted like a donkey yesterday, leaning down and threatening a woman who was not breaking the law, threatening the man who was talking to him.

Lee is a violent person. What he did on purpose, could have maimed or killed a woman and a child, neither of whom were threatening his life in any way. He is out of control and will be the next Anthony who needs bailing out.



SO now you were there and you know he did it on purpose??? Puhlease!!! Where's the video? All of those camera's aimed at the house and there's no video of Lee mowing down innocent people? And why isn't he in jail? After all he deliberately (according to you) tried to run down a woman and a baby.

[spiritwolf46]

so can you add 16 years to the 50,,,16 from the original charge and 50 from the new charges? 66 years in jail would make her 88 when she gets out....?

Hmmmm....thanks summer! That made me even happier.

[Joan Weiss]

I'm reading backwards tonight and I'm not sure what all has gone on. The Anthonys have a very nice back yard. I imagine it may be painful for them to go back there right now, but regardless, I'd bet money that they didnt' frequent their front yard as much as they do now. They should avoid the front yard when the protesters are out there if at all possible IMO.yep. They didn't pick up the notice for the towed car for days because they never went out there. :rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

I'm beginning to think it's a good idea for the protesters to show up. It increases the pressure for the whole family; maybe that's what it'll take to get them to cave. imo

[bluwaters]

Lee, George and Cindy have not been charged with a crime nor have they been accused of a crime. They have the same rights that you, I, or anyone else has. They shouldn't have to hide in their home or in their backyard. They have more right to be in their own yard then ANYONE else does. :rolleyes:
And they need to accept the fact the protesters have a right to be on the public property bordering their yard. The Anthony's do not seem to be able to control themselves. Their anger is dangerous, not only to others, but to themselves!

[Acorn]

He intentionally tried to run over a woman and her child. To me, that's a bad guy. There's no excuse for that.


Woah. I'm late to the game. Who tried to run over who? TIA

[Unperson1984]

I've been away, Lee Anthony tried to run someone over with his car? Is he in jail?

[msgatorslayer]

July 19th is when Amy called LE to say that another check was in the process of being drawn on her account. It was presented electronically from AT&T for $574.

[baywench]

Hmmmm....thanks summer! That made me even happier.


Keep those charges coming! Al Capone went to jail for tax evasion remember lol OK back to :read: unless something besides protestors comes up. jmo

[msjoni]

If the Anthonys would just stay inside, eventually I believe the protesting would stop. Every time they come outside & show their face, pound signs in the ground, confront these people, etc., they just encourage more to show up. They keep coming hoping for these confrontations. Not that I don't believe they have a right to be there, because they do.

The Anthonys have a beautiful back yard. Why not just hang out back there if they need to get outside. Makes me think they want the drama, too.

Exactly, ITA

[Joan Weiss]

SO now you were there and you know he did it on purpose??? Puhlease!!! Where's the video? All of those camera's aimed at the house and there's no video of Lee mowing down innocent people? And why isn't he in jail? After all he deliberately (according to you) tried to run down a woman and a baby.Read the article. His statement says exactly that. imo

[True2Blues]

SO now you were there and you know he did it on purpose??? Puhlease!!! Where's the video? All of those camera's aimed at the house and there's no video of Lee mowing down innocent people? And why isn't he in jail? After all he deliberately (according to you) tried to run down a woman and a baby.

It's in the linked article earlier in the thread. A quote from Lee Anthony saying he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could that.

Try reading before you jump on people.

[johnielee333]

3 :rose::rose::rose: For our little baby girl Caylee.
May you Rest in Peace.
We all love you Caylee.
You have touched our hearts big time.
I wish they could find you.
I am praying for you Caylee.

Please Casey, tell us all where your little girl is.
Bring her home so she can have a safe place to rest.
Caylee deserves that.
Fess up & face the music Casey.
Do the right thing for once.
Do it for Sweet little Caylee.
Bring her home.

[OneUp]

Steve Groene actually failed his lie detector test-we all know Joseph Duncan was the monster that raped/tortured his ex-wife and children-he allowed Shasta to live

:rose: Shasta
Melinda Duckett refused -we know what happened to her-
:rose: Trenton

Peterson refused IIRC

IIRC Polly Klaas Dad.. wanted a lie detector so that he could be CLEARED so the police could focus on finding the real killer. I also believe he has told other familes of missing children to always take the test ...

jmoYes, I do know of a few who took one and failed ( trust me, the stress is the worst thig you can imagine...I'm surprised people can string two sentences together many times.). Melinda would be the only one I can think of who refused and wasn't later charged ( for obvious reasons, but I'm sure most people are still convinced of her guilt).
I wondered how many have refused and were in fact innocent. I cannot think of ANY. There may be one or some, that's why I asked. A poly is not admissable, so even failing one won't get you in the pokey if you are innocent. Besides, I'd be willing to risk it if that was the price for bringing my Angel home sooner.
JMO though.

[bluwaters]

I know that the ones who bring their children there don't give a darn about the well being of those children. Their actions prove that.
Yes, but that isn't the issue. It's too bad that stupidity can't be legislated away. :shrug:

[nana6]

If you think he's trying to get something out of her, I've got a bridge to sell you. In Nevada. imo

Hi Joan, I know what you are saying, but I just remember his first talk on the phone to police. He was giving them the lowdown on what he knew at that time and I don't know he sounded very sincere at that time. Now, maybe things have changed. Maybe he has found out something terrible has happened and he is now into his protect Casey at any cost mode. It really does not matter because I believe the whole lot of them are either truly liars or Lee is up to his neck on runninf interference beween the police and his parents,who by the way do nothing to help matters:)

[kakax]

Legally, LE would have had to have a warrant to bug the joint. Not saying they haven't had a sealed warrant to do so that we aren't privy to but I heard THs today saying they hadn't done it yet. Yeah, like they'd know.

That said, I don't think LE would have told LP that they bugged the place. LP could have assumed it was bugged but would take it upon himself to get his own dirt on the family cuz he knew LE wouldn't tell him what they had heard.

Following me on this? :)


Anyone think along with shaking trees, Cindy has been searching her house all over for bugs?

[Joan Weiss]

Legally, LE would have had to have a warrant to bug the joint. Not saying they haven't had a sealed warrant to do so that we aren't privy to but I heard THs today saying they hadn't done it yet. Yeah, like they'd know.

That said, I don't think LE would have told LP that they bugged the place. LP could have assumed it was bugged but would take it upon himself to get his own dirt on the family cuz he knew LE wouldn't tell him what they had heard.

Following me on this? :)That's awfully complicated, I think not. And as for LE bugging the place, I've heard many THs say that's possible and probable.

So why would they make that public? imo

[Amy S.]

moo
Larry wouldn't have been able to bug the house, legally.

[Joan Weiss]

Anyone think along with shaking trees, Cindy has been searching her house all over for bugs?That wouldn't surprise me at all. imo

[kakax]

My hubby has a sister who is a real- trip for lack of a better word. But anyhow her way way ex BF is supposedly stalking her. She had her house swept for bugs twice and once I was there. The guy came out with 2 bugs one was about as round as pencil eraser but had tiny holes in it (black) and a sticky side for mounting. The other one was inside a magnet they had on their fridge- it was a magnet for a pizza place where they had cut a perfect little circle out and replaced it with the bug. Completely undetectable except to the trained eye. FWIW



WOW! So they are so small it would be almost impossible to find. I still think that is why they threw out the teddy bears.

[bookie]

I've been away, Lee Anthony tried to run someone over with his car? Is he in jail?


A woman claimed he tried to hit her with his car and no he isn't in jail.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

[trich]

I have a question about Lee....
Is he married ?
Does he have any children.
If he is married I am thinking his wife would be somewhat disturbed at
his actions and all the time he is spending defending his sister and parents.
Not to mention the high 5 ing the other day at police headquarters.
also has he been give a leave of absence from his job too?

I know in my world if people do not work they don't get a pay check and it has been my experience not too many people survive very well without a pay check.


Just think how many lives Casey has messed up not to mention her own daughter's.

[Joan Weiss]

Hi Joan, I know what you are saying, but I just remember his first talk on the phone to police. He was giving them the lowdown on what he knew at that time and I don't know he sounded very sincere at that time. Now, maybe things have changed. Maybe he has found out something terrible has happened and he is now into his protect Casey at any cost mode. It really does not matter because I believe the whole lot of them are either truly liars or Lee is up to his neck on runninf interference beween the police and his parents,who by the way do nothing to help matters:)With his recent actions, I highly doubt it. imo

[spiritwolf46]

Its my opinion that the baby doll display, the fake gravestone, the baby killer signs, and chants are prime examples of uncivilized behavior. However, I respect your right to believe its civilized behavior to bring this garbage into a neighborhood inhabited not just by the Anthony's, but many innocent, unrelated families.


Okeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Dokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :hat:

[kakax]

That's awfully complicated, I think not. And as for LE bugging the place, I've heard many THs say that's possible and probable.

So why would they make that public? imo



They wouldn't. It would defeat the purpose!

[bluwaters]

Perhaps she actually DID have another phone for a few days and consequently lost it. May be that blackjack that a few folks saw her with and then wondered why she no longer had? ...another example of her lying before anyone knows to question?
JMO
....BTW, I can't think of ANY justification for Lee to purposely hit someone with a baby...The baby can't help it that she/he was there. Shame on the mom, but double shame on Lee. I cannot see any justification to run over a baby with ones car.:cuss: He is lucky a mob didn't take him down! Shame for going after a female (and helpless baby), again.
JMO.
Those Anthony men sure do have a thing for taking on women and men who are much smaller than they are. I find their attitude towards women very disturbing.

[cutiepatootie61]

Hoping that Casey is reading this message board....
Hope she never has a peaceful nights sleep as long as she breathes....

Today there will be silence mom,
no crying will you hear.
I didn't mean to anger you,
I just wanted you near.
Today there will be sleep again,
I won't cry out in vain.
The nights I needed comforting,
were filled with hurt and pain.
How could someone so big and strong,
strike out at little me?
I was a gift, your little girl,
unwanted now, I see.
Today there will be love at last,
on angels wings I'll soar.
Way up high, above the clouds,
through heavens golden doors.
So momma, say a prayer for me,
for the life I'll never know.
I just wish you could have cared for me,
for I would have loved you so.. :rose:

1999 Sherry Gautreau All Rights Reserved

http://www.thelaboroflove.com/prose/poems/silence.html

[Shellberry]

hey everyone-can someone please please, give me a quickie update?
when I finally was able to get on, my daughter woke up so I gave her dinner and stuff.

casey not arrested yet?
refused lie detectors.

and did I read they called of all searches?


Im sorry, I was trying to do a quick catch up when the baby got up, but I only got as far as the links thread, I didnt have a chance to read any of them yet.
TIA

[baywench]

moo
Larry wouldn't have been able to bug the house, legally.

Isn't it possible that LP wired his own "girl". Legally or not. Just a thought. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

Anyone think along with shaking trees, Cindy has been searching her house all over for bugs?

No doubt in my mind that she has. I wonder if she or George has found any? :shrug:

[bookie]

It's in the linked article earlier in the thread. A quote from Lee Anthony saying he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could that.

Try reading before you jump on people.


You might want to take the advice in your last sentence. He didn't say he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could run them over.....you added to his statement to make it sound deliberate.


Lee Anthony said that was what he had been waiting for.

"Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway," he said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

[rainydays]

That is so true. Then again Caylee wouldnt be missing and dead if she were not living in a violent hostile family. :rose:

ITA jenny:seeya:

[day2day]

Yes, I do know of a few who took one and failed ( trust me, the stress is the worst thig you can imagine...I'm surprised people can string two sentences together many times.). Melinda would be the only one I can think of who refused and wasn't later charged ( for obvious reasons, but I'm sure most people are still convinced of her guilt).
I wondered how many have refused and were in fact innocent. I cannot think of ANY. There may be one or some, that's why I asked. A poly is not admissable, so even failing one won't get you in the pokey if you are innocent. Besides, I'd be willing to risk it if that was the price for bringing my Angel home sooner.
JMO though.


I really don't know of any family of a missing child that has refused a polygraph. I'm like you I would do anything humanly possible to bring my child home. I am convinced that Caylee is not the Anthony's top priority. jmo

[kakax]

Isn't it possible that LP wired his own "girl". Legally or not. Just a thought. jmo

hmmmm....could be!!

[Takotna]

Do you really think she got a blackjack? I was assumming this was another lie to explain why she didn't have phone numbers.

>>I think she got a BlackJack. The jail conversation involved two phones and the simcard business (granted, mostly confusing lies). IMO Casey having a BlackJack would be easy to check on, her 'friends' would have noticed a nice new phone - I think she would have showed it off too.

Did they ever find the BlackJack? Casey told Lee to look in the bags from TonE's.

Not having phone numbers could be explained by this too - if she lost the old phone (while doing something nefarious) she wouldn't have the numbers to put in the BlackJack - (she could do what I had to do once, go back to my phone bill and try to remember who' who:))

I'll ponder this a bit more...I think there's a reason for the lack of activity.....With all the lies it's near impossible to do anything but speculate!

AllMO

[cutiepatootie61]

Isn't it possible that LP wired his own "girl". Legally or not. Just a thought. jmo


:eek: Is that possible???? :eek:

[Joan Weiss]

No it doesn't. The logical interpretation of his statement, is that he knew it was bound to happen. A completely different meaning. I didn't see any statement where he indicates he planned to intentionally hit a trespasser.Lee said that was what he had been waiting for. "Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

[Boxer]

IMO if they can't get it out of her then "yes"....heck "yes"...kick her out of the house and make her go back to jail. Don't let her have the privledge of going to the atty's office for 6 hours a day to play on the internet and eat what she wants to eat and watch what she wants to watch. Make her sit in a cell and think about things. IMO by letting her stay there not only are they creating the crazziness in their neighborhood, but they are also giving her a comfortable envirnoment to live in. IMO it's just completely wrong.

applause.

IMO, she is thriving on the attention.

[steffaroob4]

Steve Huff has an entry on the case and I very much agree with what he had to say.

"What I also find obscene, I think, is the obsessive chewing over every tiny, meaningless detail of the circus surrounding the case (parsing the actual details that may point to what really happened is a necessary evil). I find it obscene that people insert themselves into the story -- by going to the Anthonys' home -- surely making it a point to do so when the cameras are around -- by starting fights in the street."

http://www.truecrimereport.com


I find it obscene that people insert themselves into the story, like certain blog writers do, in ceratin cases like Spector, Drew Peterson...

[OneUp]

I think it's devasting that the search for Caylee is off. It sickens me that Cindy, George and Lee are protecting their daughter instead of standing up for their helpless granddaughter. Why?? To show Casey that she can always get away with things and they will always protect her and make things better for her?? When does it stop?? I use to think George and Cindy were victims as well...but I know feel they are cold, heartless people. It's their house...they don't have to "live" by Jose Baez's rules. If they want to question Casey, they can. It's their house. If Casey doesn't like it, she can go back to jail...or move in with Baez and his wife.ITA, Good job making your point with few words! ( do you give lessons?)
JMO.

[msgatorslayer]

WOW! So they are so small it would be almost impossible to find. I still think that is why they threw out the teddy bears.

I watched a show once about the history of espionage. It was pretty neat. Showing how technology has changed the tools of the trade. I was :eek: when they showed a wire tap in the olive of a martini.

[bookie]

So now the whole family killed Caylee - that little girl that hasn't even officially been pronounced dead, but anyway, the whole danged family killed her?


My question is when did the police announce that George, Cindy and Lee were involved? Last I heard Casey was the only suspect.

[Joan Weiss]

Ok I barely got through that article, that is just violent and shows blatant disregard for life. It must run in the family. It does run in the family.

:cuss:Yep, and could have killed a baby. imo

[kakax]

Back to state index]

Fla. Stat. ch. 934.03: All parties must consent to the recording or the disclosure of the contents of any wire, oral or electronic communication in Florida. Recording or disclosing without the consent of all parties is a felony, unless the interception is a first offense committed without any illegal purpose, and not for commercial gain, or the communication is the radio portion of a cellular conversation. Such first offenses and the interception of cellular communications are misdemeanors. State v. News-Press Pub. Co., 338 So. 2d 1313 (1976), State v. Tsavaris, 394 So. 2d 418 (1981).

Under the statute, consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that communication. See definition of "oral communication," Fla. Stat. ch. 934.02.

Anyone whose communications have been illegally intercepted may recover actual damages or $100 for each day of violation or $1,000, whichever is greater, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. Fla. Stat. ch. 934.10.

A federal appellate court has held that because only interceptions made through an "electronic, mechanical or other device" are illegal under Florida law, telephones used in the ordinary course of business to record conversations do not violate the law. The court found that business telephones are not the type of devices addressed in the law and, thus, that a life insurance company did not violate the law when it routinely recorded business-related calls on its business extensions. Royal Health Care Servs., Inc. v. Jefferson-Pilot Life Ins. Co., 924 F.2d 215 (11th Cir. 1991).


http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/florida.html

[forensicsgal]

Ginky here. :seeya:

I just got confirmed as a friend on Casey's Facebook page. Interesting huh? She's got something like 1400 friends. Lots of folks are posting on her wall that they support her and "don't listen to all the negativity....etc."

then how come none of them baked her a cake when she was in the slammer??? HMMMMM, I doubt she has 1400 friends!!!

[steffaroob4]

Do you really think she got a blackjack? I was assumming this was another lie to explain why she didn't have phone numbers.

I don't think she did, I wish we could ask LE a few questions, this would be so much easier.

[shelbar53]

Casey is used to going out and partying, boozing and dancing. No girlfriends to laugh with or go shopping. Im wondering if she isnt getting a caged up feeling. Being stuck at home in the evenings and weekends with her parents. I wonder if they sit around and watch sit coms and laugh or if casey goes off by herself in the bedroom. Do they all sit and eat dinner together...is the highchair in the dinning room. Is any of caylees stuff around?

[Boxer]

IMO, it's also a personality disorder to constantly interpret another's posts with as much inappropriate drama as can be mustered.

[impartial]

You might want to take the advice in your last sentence. He didn't say he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could run them over.....you added to his statement to make it sound deliberate.


Lee Anthony said that was what he had been waiting for.

"Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway," he said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html


Hmmm, they quoted a statement, but they didn't quote the question.

:seeya:

IMO

[baywench]

:eek: Is that possible???? :eek:

The more I think about it, maybe it could be. I don't think they were "patted" down or anything since LE wasn't inside. Maybe it would explain some of the comments he throws out there that sometimes are right on but he doesn't seem to have the whole story. Maybe he only heard things when the girl was in the room and that's why he missed alot. jmo

[bookie]

Lee said that was what he had been waiting for. "Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html



Am I missing where he said "so I could run them over"? Maybe you'd be so kind as to bold that part of his quote since I can't seem to find it. And while your at it could you highlight the question he was asked because I sure can't seem to find that either.

[bookie]

Hmmm, they quoted a statement, but they didn't quote the question.

:seeya:

IMO


I just mentioned that in my last post. My guess is they didn't quote it so they could put a sinister spin on his answer.

[Joan Weiss]

Those Anthony men sure do have a thing for taking on women and men who are much smaller than they are. I find their attitude towards women very disturbing.I so agree. I'd love to see a group of just guys for about three days, young and tall. Just standing there on the sidewalk with signs. I don't think Lee or anyone else would come out. imo

[st777jo]

IMO if they can't get it out of her then "yes"....heck "yes"...kick her out of the house and make her go back to jail. Don't let her have the privledge of going to the atty's office for 6 hours a day to play on the internet and eat what she wants to eat and watch what she wants to watch. Make her sit in a cell and think about things. IMO by letting her stay there not only are they creating the crazziness in their neighborhood, but they are also giving her a comfortable envirnoment to live in. IMO it's just completely wrong.


Exactly how I feel. And the protesters are there, IMO, because they want the Anthony's to take off the kid gloves on Casey.

[VC2]

What? Huh? I can't hear yooooou! lol j/k

I know. So either he's wanting us to believe that Lee came out and gave him that info, or for us NOT to believe that he was eavesdropping.

I know he was out there listening. Does he appear to you to be a man that would know he had the tools to listen in, and not listen in? Or fear that he would get caught? Nope. Me neither. He'll obviously do whatever he wants, when he wants, for his own purposes.


:seeya:

there is no way on gods green earth that Padilla did not plant a few bugs in the house with 500k worth of casey to keep track of. Whatever his reasons for getting in (and i think they were on the whole decent ones), once she was out she was going to be under microscopic attention by himself and Tony and bob dick and not just for security but to protect their 500k.

imo

[day2day]

My question is when did the police announce that George, Cindy and Lee were involved? Last I heard Casey was the only suspect.

I would like to see a link where LE says the family is NOT involved. Care to share? jmo

[bookie]

Back to state index]

Fla. Stat. ch. 934.03: All parties must consent to the recording or the disclosure of the contents of any wire, oral or electronic communication in Florida. Recording or disclosing without the consent of all parties is a felony, unless the interception is a first offense committed without any illegal purpose, and not for commercial gain, or the communication is the radio portion of a cellular conversation. Such first offenses and the interception of cellular communications are misdemeanors. State v. News-Press Pub. Co., 338 So. 2d 1313 (1976), State v. Tsavaris, 394 So. 2d 418 (1981).

Under the statute, consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that communication. See definition of "oral communication," Fla. Stat. ch. 934.02.

Anyone whose communications have been illegally intercepted may recover actual damages or $100 for each day of violation or $1,000, whichever is greater, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. Fla. Stat. ch. 934.10.

A federal appellate court has held that because only interceptions made through an "electronic, mechanical or other device" are illegal under Florida law, telephones used in the ordinary course of business to record conversations do not violate the law. The court found that business telephones are not the type of devices addressed in the law and, thus, that a life insurance company did not violate the law when it routinely recorded business-related calls on its business extensions. Royal Health Care Servs., Inc. v. Jefferson-Pilot Life Ins. Co., 924 F.2d 215 (11th Cir. 1991).


http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/florida.html


In other words....if he bugged their house and they find out about it they can sue him in civil court.

[Joan Weiss]

I always had the impression he was inserting himself into this; one of those who is too eager to help LE; just too eager for my comfort level. Something not right; and have never been able to quite pin that feeling down, except that he freaks me out; always has. If I were his "fiance" I'd run; I'd run so fast. I'd never let them near another child that is certain. No way; not ever. Too violent and dysfunctional to me; I'm a firm believer in some people just shouldnt breed. I dont have any nice way to put that either. Am not even going to try to say that nicely. Some people are not cut out for parenting. I wouldnt want to see another child ruined by this type of dysfunction. :cuss:ITA. Just recall Lee's interview after his visit with Casey. Blah...blah...blah...

imo

[day2day]

That's exactly why I have said and will continue to say that it's misguided anger & hate.

Very misguided - which only makes the protesters look all the more disingenuous, because they're not there for Caylee, and not there for their anger at Casey either, proven by the fact that they still lined up and behaved foolishly when Casey was back in jail between Bonds.

So what's their excuse?

What's their mission?

CAMERA TIME!

Perhaps their mission is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE! jmo

[kakax]

I watched a show once about the history of espionage. It was pretty neat. Showing how technology has changed the tools of the trade. I was :eek: when they showed a wire tap in the olive of a martini.

Anytime anyone knows of cool shows like this please pm me....I always miss these interesting shows!!

I did read on another board that GA does have a job. He supposedly works nights. Maybe that is why we saw a car leave at 10 last night.

[spiritwolf46]

My question is when did the police announce that George, Cindy and Lee were involved? Last I heard Casey was the only suspect.

OOOOPS! Casey is NOT a suspect, but a person of interest. :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

there is no way on gods green earth that Padilla did not plant a few bugs in the house with 500k worth of casey to keep track of. Whatever his reasons for getting in (and i think they were on the whole decent ones), once she was out she was going to be under microscopic attention by himself and Tony and bob dick and not just for security but to protect their 500k.

imoHaving an investment in someone doesn't give them the right to bug a private residence. Otherwise, all the banks would have bugs all over the place. imo

[tiny paw-prints]

Its my opinion that the baby doll display, the fake gravestone, the baby killer signs, and chants are prime examples of uncivilized behavior. However, I respect your right to believe its civilized behavior to bring this garbage into a neighborhood inhabited not just by the Anthony's, but many innocent, unrelated families.

"...baby doll display..."

At the time, I thought the "baby doll display" by the sidewalk protesters was an uncivilized behavior, cruel and poor example.

Since then, however, it's been speculated that Cindy is a doll collector and she may have an assortment of an expensive baby doll collection on display of her own. Hence, the "baby doll display" by the sidewalk protesters.

[kakax]

In other words....if he bugged their house and they find out about it they can sue him in civil court.



What if he were just listening though? What if he didn't record anything?

[summer4meplz]

Originally I posted:

"Don't jump all over me if I get this analogy wrong, but it seems to me like Lee is running interference for his parents by taking the heat on himself."

Joan jumped all over me and rightfully so- I agree with her wholeheartedly. I didn't explain myself clearly.

The point I was trying to make was that it seems as if Lee is purposefully putting himself outside the house and making himself the object of villification, rather than have the hatred directed towards Cindy and George. Sort of like the Anthony's know that the crowd needs fresh meat every so often (an Anthony to scream at)- so he's volunteered.

Am I making sense now? Gesh, I hope so. Tough crowd. :chicken:


you might have a very good point about lee going out so his parents wouldn't go....the other day with cindy, george and the hammers and lee was trying to run interference....poor lee looked like he was trying to herd cats....just when he would get one parent going toward the garage, the other parent would come out....mo

[AMS]

Just watching NG now. Don't know if this has been reported from her earlier show.

New charges. Some time in the the next few days Casey will be arrested yet again. Punishable up to 5 years for each of the 10 felony charges. Mark Williams - 50 years in the slammer if she is convicted.

Baez wants to be notified before Casey is arrested.

Picture of Casey in the white, bug-eye sunglasses.

Creating a web site to solicit money to help Casey. Press release came from Baez PR firm.

NG - you know you are introuble when you have to hire a PR firm. TH - in her 17 years she has never dealt with a PR firm for a defendent. Other TH says it is not an unwise a decision. Compares it to the Michael Jackson debacle. 3rd TH says jury pool will be affeceted. Media consultant will help.

[bluwaters]

IMO, it's also a personality disorder to constantly interpret another's posts with as much inappropriate drama as can be mustered.

:lol: great post Boxer!!!

[Motomom]

yep. They didn't pick up the notice for the towed car for days because they never went out there. :rolleyes:

Exactly Joan! They got into their car in the garage normally and entered and exited that way is my guess. They used the door from the garage to the house as their main entrance. If they didn't, they would have gotton that letter much sooner. It's silly for them now, to put themselves in harms way even, or risk what is going on with their tempers.

As far as protesters and kids, I agree and dont' agree with some posts. I see nothing wrong with people taking children to protests (non violent ones). GA and CA turn them into potential violence when they come out front and confront protesters. In that case, people do need to keep their kids home if they plan on exercising their right to protest. They are watching the news, they know the dangers there.

[evalles]

IMO, it's also a personality disorder to constantly interpret another's posts with as much inappropriate drama as can be mustered.


Dramapostaphobia :D

[spiritwolf46]

The more I think about it, maybe it could be. I don't think they were "patted" down or anything since LE wasn't inside. Maybe it would explain some of the comments he throws out there that sometimes are right on but he doesn't seem to have the whole story. Maybe he only heard things when the girl was in the room and that's why he missed alot. jmo


WOW! I truly never even thought about that! Makes ya wonder, doesn't it????

[summer4meplz]

What if he were just listening though? What if he didn't record anything?


then he's a whole lot dumber than i gave him credit for...lol

[Velouria]

Am I missing where he said "so I could run them over"? Maybe you'd be so kind as to bold that part of his quote since I can't seem to find it. And while your at it could you highlight the question he was asked because I sure can't seem to find that either.


Okay, so why do YOU think he was waiting for them to walk into the driveway? So he could offer them lemonade and cookies?

[AMS]

NG2

Why have searches been called off? Does not believe it is because of flooding.

Mike Brooks - Casey holds all the cards. Will never break.

Lennie - NG asks what the family does in the house. Casey spending a lot of time in her room. FBI and local officials came over to ask Anthony family to take lie detector test. Lennie was in the RV. At first they agreed. Then Lee came out and told Lennie that the GPs and him (Lee) would not take the test.

[spiritwolf46]

When you intentionally walk in front of a moving car it does.

Intentionally? She intentionally walked in front of a moving car with a baby in her arms?

Looks like I will have to re :read: where it says that she did that. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :hat:

[Joan Weiss]

Am I missing where he said "so I could run them over"? Maybe you'd be so kind as to bold that part of his quote since I can't seem to find it. And while your at it could you highlight the question he was asked because I sure can't seem to find that either.He insinuated that. Nothing wrong with my comprehension. Why do you think that statement wasn't finished? No clarification? I'll bet there was, it couldn't be printed. imo

[shelbar53]

right now casey is waiting charges on fraud theft etc and will face some jail time { i doubt she will have to serve 50 years} everyone wants her to tell them what she did with caylee and then she will face life in prison...what incentive does she have to tell the truth {other than being the right thing to do}. she can go to prison for several years on the theft charges and come out and have access to some of the blood money.