Caylee Anthony Evening Thread 09/11/08 [Archive] - Page 3

summer4meplz

09-12-2008, 01:13 AM

>>Here's a question I had -

I'm wondering how Cindy got Casey to leave with her??
In Nate's interview with NG, he said Casey said she'd go outside and talk but she wouldn't go anywhere with her mother.
What changed her mind? It seems to me there must have been some threat involved - (Come with me or I'll make a scene and tell TonE all about you?! - something like that.)

I particularly liked your horse with no legs HWNL - I think we should use this!

Picturing this HWNL at the Derby gave me the biggest liugh of my day:)

AllMO

that's a good question,,,she apparently didn't even pop in to say she was leaving with her mom ..or apparently take anything with her if she was just going outside to talk to her mom for a minute...

luvinlife

09-12-2008, 01:15 AM

my, but this woman is like an unmarried black widow....:chicken:

Isn't she though, it is quite disturbing, but alas there always seems to be a willing victim. :)

summer4meplz

09-12-2008, 01:15 AM

Put it this way, I don't think that Amy is being totally honest in many ways, nor a few of the other cohorts of Casey's - and believe me, Casey was an idiot for signing someone else's checks even IF she tries to claim that she had blank checks from Amy and her blessings to sign them.

You just don't do that!

care to elaborate on why you think amy is not being totally honest, or is that something else that only you know about?

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:15 AM

as a nana myself I cannot imagine my girls going out at night to clubs and taking my granddaughters with them.. Where did Cindy think Casey was going those nights with little Caylee?

I hate seeing those pictures of Casey drunk. I know that has be really hard on Cindy and George.

Great question.........there is no way i would allow my daughter in law to go out partying like that with my grand baby i would call CPS and 911.

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 01:15 AM

Cindy said she was going to call Children Services on the protester with the baby. Wonder how many times she made that same threat to Casey? jmo

Caylee:rose:

barskin&co.

09-12-2008, 01:16 AM

As to Amy's relationship with Casey.

Amy met her about a year before the police were called into this case. Casey was at a party at Amy's, and right after that, Amy went away to work on the cruise ship for 6 months. When she got back, Casey had become friendly with Amy's friends, and then the two of them became friends. So this was hardly a life-long friendship. It was about 6 months in duration. As I have said before, I doubt that Casey held on to relationships very long on a regular basis.

See pages 396-399

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

If people think she is "stupid" or worse to have trusted that Casey would not forge her checks and empty her bank account while she was gone, so be it.

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:16 AM

I agree..Just because she forgot and left her check book didn't give Casey the right to steal her money..Especially after Amy was kind enough to loan her car to Casey.
That's gratitude for you. This woman doesn't deserve any consideration at all. imo

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 01:17 AM

And, Amy loaned Casey her car, with a checkbook in the glove compartment. Now, that is stupid.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

well, imo, if she considered her a good enough friend to lend her the car--she surely wouldnt expect casey to steal from her.
amy said she didnt know about caseys lies and stuff until a few days before she was interviewed? was it?
something like that.

she had no clue about the real casey, just like no one else did.

imo/jmo

Takotna

09-12-2008, 01:17 AM

Thanks for the gentle snipping. It is that I have made that particular post so many times in various threads and it never seems to stick. I am certain that Cindy likely said she would have her thrown in jail for theft if she didn't leave right then and did she want to still stay there and have cops show up in front of Tony? that is how I think that Cindy played it...jmo ofcourse I could be wrong.

I just thought that after her own daugher goes missing and is likely dead that Casey is out drunk...not shocking but threatening to kill people. A psychologist would say, "Hey guys, blank with me and I will kill you..cuz I go the blank to back that up...now that I actually have." That is why I think it is significant...and not just coincidental drunk speak. Jmo.And thanks for snipping my billboard of a post. :D

I'm quite snipable too - I generally think mine are too long.... Your post was great in its original form! I am one who tends to read every post and have come to like it when folks snip when commenting on a portion. (I'm a bit leery of snipping after the other night) Thanks for The ok.

I think you're right about Cindy's approach. Casey probably knew Cindy could create a big scene. Casey was in a bad spot - so she probably went because it was making Cindy look unreasonable in front of her friends.

I have been of the opinion for quite some time that Casey was not 'ready' for this confrontation - her plan was cut short by Cindy showing up unexpectedly.

AllMO:)

I'm off to bed - Have a restful night everyone. :rose: for Caylee

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:17 AM

Put it this way, I don't think that Amy is being totally honest in many ways, nor a few of the other cohorts of Casey's - and believe me, Casey was an idiot for signing someone else's checks even IF she tries to claim that she had blank checks from Amy and her blessings to sign them.

You just don't do that!

cohorts..........yes yes did you ever get that proof about them having criminal backgrounds? or what that just rumors? :no:

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:19 AM

Cindy said she was going to call Children Services on the protester with the baby. Wonder how many times she made that same threat to Casey? jmo

Caylee:rose:

i'll guess about 1,987,067,097 times am i close?

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:20 AM

Thanks. Don't know that I believe NG. What she does is make money. Was that the "bombshell" for tonight?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomNG always has several THs, she doesn't make all the statements herself. Nancy also gives a lot of time to victims. She goes to advocate meetings and speaks. She's not just on TV. imo

Syd'sMiMi

09-12-2008, 01:20 AM

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I do know why Tim Miller wasn't searching for Caylee. He was in Aruba meeting with ALE and requesting permission to search near a dam/pond for Natalie Holloway. I also heard tonight that he was on the way back to Texas. Maybe the search will resume for Caylee.

Tim Lives in Texas City which is under mandatory evacuation tonight due to the Hurricane. Maybe he had to come back to secure his property. Just a thought.

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 01:20 AM

Cindy said she was going to call Children Services on the protester with the baby. Wonder how many times she made that same threat to Casey? jmo

Caylee:rose:

funny, when I heard that on the video, one of the first thoughts I had was why? & then hmmm I bet she knows the cps laws in FL

imo/jmo

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:21 AM

Tim Lives in Texas City which is under mandatory evacuation tonight due to the Hurricane. Maybe he had to come back to secure his property. Just a thought.

Tims in Aruba. Been there a few days.

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:21 AM

Probably the same way one would convince their parents that a mythical nanny took off with their granddaughter.

in addition to having a job for 2 years....NOT!

she is extremely good at what she does. case in point: a nanny for no job....

doesnt anyone understand how ridiculous this is? SHE DIDNT HAVE A JOB....but Casey keeps saying she handed the child off to 'the nanny!"

and her parents maintain they believe her...despite the knowledge now she hasnt held a job for 2 years.....

let me off this bus....

and now, those who were CLEARLY unsuspecting friends (no history like the Anthonys' history) are now being called inept and inferences being made they are cohorts.

unbelieveable....

where's that large font: SHE DIDNT HAVE A JOB...THEREFORE, SHE DIDNT NEED CHILDCARE. AND SHE DIDNT GO TO WORK THAT DAY OR ANY DAY AFTER APRIL 2006.

best regards,
Pru

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 01:21 AM

again, Amy met her a little over a year ago and was away for 6 months...subtract that time from when she 'met' her, which really wasnt a 'meet', Casey happened to be at a party she hosted....

her statement is pretty clear as to how Casey 'became' a part of her life.

best regards,
Pru

Thanks, Pru!

I once had a friend that I thought was a "good friend", who I later learned was stealing from me. Mostly petty stuff, like switching her old mascara with my brand new one. Sheesh.

OneUp

09-12-2008, 01:21 AM

For all we know, Casey might be spending her time at her attny's office reading the boards all day.

So, we probably should avoid giving her any new BS stories for her defense.I had that thought last night...the devilish part of me wanted to post some really dumb "ideas" and other goofs just to see what happened...LOL.

Boxer

09-12-2008, 01:22 AM

NEVER. Casey was "the mother of the year".

exactly. she was such a good mothah that she kept a spare car key in her pocket for emergencies. cars and kids, she's not so good with but spare keys are her forte

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 01:22 AM

Hi all,
Just thought I'd check and voila, I see we are open again.
Thank you CW.
Will now do a bit of :read: to see where you all are.
:seeya:

dixie77

09-12-2008, 01:23 AM

Put it this way, I don't think that Amy is being totally honest in many ways, nor a few of the other cohorts of Casey's - and believe me, Casey was an idiot for signing someone else's checks even IF she tries to claim that she had blank checks from Amy and her blessings to sign them.

You just don't do that!
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lol yeah...i can see it now........Amy left blank checks in the car so that she can try and frame poor Casey. And Casey's other friends that u mention......yeah....they r all after Casey. Casey was an idiot? Oh, i have a few other names for her that i wont post here. JMO

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 01:23 AM

funny, when I heard that on the video, one of the first thoughts I had was why? & then hmmm I bet she knows the cps laws in FL

imo/jmo

Yep. My thought was I bet she has said that before. :)

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:24 AM

i always find it disturbing when people start blaming real victims. i see that a lot on here tonight. very very sad.

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:26 AM

Amy wasn't stupid. Amy needed to get to the airport, IIRC, and Casey probably suggested it. Casey needed a car, and Amy was the mark. Amy made a leap of faith, imo.

she sure did Joan. as I think most people have in their lives at least once. :)

best regards,
Pru

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:27 AM

msgatorslayer

09-12-2008, 01:28 AM

Especially after Amy was kind enough to loan her car to Casey.
That's gratitude for you. This woman doesn't deserve any consideration at all. imo

And Casey didn't waste any time. She was spending on the very same day.

I've been working on an on-line calender so I can remember some of these dates.

Wonder if Casey had any money, cash money, left, on the day Caylee was reported missing. The 15th is when she cashed a check for $250 "cash". Her intentions were to, IMO, get some fast cash before picking Amy up from the airport and putting the check book back like nothing ever happened.

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 01:29 AM

Thankfully it is not that bad. I can't see as well as I was able to... I blame law school and the white boards with black marker and horseshoe shaped rooms to hold a 100 plus people...I just find it was interesting that someone whose daughter is missing has a little drunken bravado and threatens to kill someone...even if no one else thinks that is significant...I guess I do..because she already did...and to me...given all of the other evidence...it would fit...jmo
Thanks...:biggrin:

Maybe she threated to kill them because they ask where Caylee was. :(

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:29 AM

True LB, they obviously had other warnings/proof in fact that Casey had stolen, but to make that huge leap to connect that your daughter may be a murderer is a whole 'nother ballgame.

I don't think they knew half of what Casey and her friends were into, and really, how could she know? Casey certainly wasn't going to be forthcoming with that information.

what were her friends into?

partying, drinking, smoking, smoking other stuff, dating, having sex...blah blah blah as single 20 somethings....

then we have a mom in the mix...with a kid on the couch.

so what were her friends into that infer there is a problem with THEIR behaviour and lifestyles that directly connect to Casey not reporting her daughter missing?

best regards,
Pru

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 01:29 AM

IF this ever gets tried as a murder case, it'll be interesting to see who all of the participating parties might be who are yanked out of the woodwork.
ohhhhhhhhh definately!

LE knows a lot more than they let us see.

I notice how Amy hasnt answered her door with the new charges against casey & even in the beginning, she simply wouldnt talk to news channels.

imo/jmo

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:30 AM

Thanks, Pru!

I once had a friend that I thought was a "good friend", who I later learned was stealing from me. Mostly petty stuff, like switching her old mascara with my brand new one. Sheesh.

now thats really low tiny....lol!

best regards,
Pru

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:31 AM

Kids her age usually hang with their own likeness, so you think that Casey hung with a bunch of law-abiding, straight & narrow 'others', and she was the only bad seed, huh?

I don't think so!

I dont think so either...its truly amazing they all came together:

that many psychopaths all becoming friends and hanging out together...what are the odds of that?

best regards,
Pru

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:32 AM

I've always felt that there is something about Amy.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomWhy? Because she's not talking? Yeh, there is something about Amy...She has integrity. imo

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:34 AM

ohhhhhhhhh definately!

LE knows a lot more than they let us see.

I notice how Amy hasnt answered her door with the new charges against casey & even in the beginning, she simply wouldnt talk to news channels.

imo/jmoThe Anthonys could learn a lot from her. imo

msgatorslayer

09-12-2008, 01:34 AM

in addition to having a job for 2 years....NOT!

she is extremely good at what she does. case in point: a nanny for no job....

doesnt anyone understand how ridiculous this is? SHE DIDNT HAVE A JOB....but Casey keeps saying she handed the child off to 'the nanny!"

and her parents maintain they believe her...despite the knowledge now she hasnt held a job for 2 years.....

let me off this bus....

and now, those who were CLEARLY unsuspecting friends (no history like the Anthonys' history) are now being called inept and inferences being made they are cohorts.

unbelieveable....

where's that large font: SHE DIDNT HAVE A JOB...THEREFORE, SHE DIDNT NEED CHILDCARE. AND SHE DIDNT GO TO WORK THAT DAY OR ANY DAY AFTER APRIL 2006.

best regards,
Pru

I watched Cindy on the stand at the bond hearing, again, today.

She ho-hums around the questions about Casey's 'current' employment. Universal can mean many things, bla, contractors, bla, bla. She hasn't found anything in her 'own' investigation about the matter. It's LE's job to do that. {Something like that, she doesn't make any sense, IMO}

But when asked about the time she knows for "FACT' that Casey had a job. She was very detailed. Remembers the dates and everything cause she was there when Casey was interviwed. Knew all about Kodak being bought by Color Vision, etc. And was able to say when Casey told her she got fired.

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 01:35 AM

Lol LB I was waiting for someone to do that hehe!! I like bold letters actually. Sometimes it makes people listen.
The photos I agree, yes they were and are Skanky. Not one of the "beuatiful People" Just easy peeps. There is a difference.
I still think that it's very possible that CA had some type of prostitution scheme going on. If someone could find out her online site, now that would be pretty much gold in this case. Her income, her true income.
I think she probably had a studio apt somewhere and worked out of it. I think that LE would have that Info from her drive, if she did have her own "business" persay like so many do. They work online, meet with clients strictly and directly from the net. It's easy. I think that was her income. I dont want to fill up my drive with BS though so I've decided not to look too hard for this info. But I think if someone did; they may just find it. Her income or website I thnk.

The only thing with that is why would she need to steal from people? Take showers at others houses?

Caylee:rose:

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 01:35 AM

Probably the same way one would convince their parents that a mythical nanny took off with their granddaughter.

:) Then how come...the Cindy grandmother primary caregiver of toddler Caylee....Did Not Know know about the mythical nanny when she admittedly knew about the...Daily house sitter and Jesse Grund family sitting arrangements of toddler Caylee during Casey's working year in 2006?

Casey (age 20-22) was that convincing of a mythical nanny to Cindy, George, Lee and all those that knew Casey for nearly two years?

Somebody needs to shake this Family Tree!

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:37 AM

Kids her age usually hang with their own likeness, so you think that Casey hung with a bunch of law-abiding, straight & narrow 'others', and she was the only bad seed, huh?

I don't think so!

well last night you said they had criminal backgrounds but REFUSED to show proof. why is that?

they might ALL be horrible,...i have NO clue. i'm sure we'll all find out some shocking stuff during the trial. BUT for now they all seem like nice kids. imo

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:38 AM

I watched Cindy on the stand at the bond hearing, again, today.

She ho-hums around the questions about Casey's 'current' employment. Universal can mean many things, bla, contractors, bla, bla. She hasn't found anything in her 'own' investigation about the matter. It's LE's job to do that. {Something like that, she doesn't make any sense, IMO}

But when asked about the time she knows for "FACT' that Casey had a job. She was very detailed. Remembers the dates and everything cause she was there when Casey was interviwed. Knew all about Kodak being bought by Color Vision, etc. And was able to say when Casey told her she got fired.

selective memory....interesting testimony, I agree.

she hasnt eaten,no sleep, she's thirsty, Im so confused...

but she knows stuff..esp about Zanny...heard about her for 1.5 years or so....when asked, the responses were no:

never met her
no tele #
no location
never spoke to her because......

she never had a need to.

best regards,
Pru

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:39 AM

So now all of Casey's 'cohorts' are of the same 'likeness' as Casey.

That sure is a lot of sociopaths to have in one place at one time.

The rumor starting is getting beyond ridiculous.

and i must be blind because i haven't seen ANY of them arrested. ;)

msgatorslayer

09-12-2008, 01:39 AM

:) Then how come...the Cindy grandmother primary caregiver of toddler Caylee....Did Not Know know about the mythical nanny when she admittedly knew about the...Daily house sitter and Jesse Grund family sitting arrangements of toddler Caylee during Casey's working year in 2006?

Casey (age 20-22) was that convincing of a mythical nanny to Cindy, George, Lee and all those that knew Casey for nearly two years?

Somebody needs to shake this Family Tree!

She had no reason to know about her.;) Isn't that what she said? lol

You can clearly see in the bond testimony how she knows EVERYTHING during the time period Casey REALLY worked.

And knows a whole lotta nothin about the time period when Casey FAKED work. Things start getting really grey and foggy.

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:39 AM

Same odds that all Ted Bundy's friends were serial killers.

kinda scary how some people think huh? lol

OneUp

09-12-2008, 01:41 AM

funny, I wondered if she read about herself online--to check our theories against herself.

imo/jmoIf she has not, she should. IMO our "stories" are ALL far better than hers.:read:...read Casey, read.

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:41 AM

And Casey didn't waste any time. She was spending on the very same day.

I've been working on an on-line calender so I can remember some of these dates.

Wonder if Casey had any money, cash money, left, on the day Caylee was reported missing. The 15th is when she cashed a check for $250 "cash". Her intentions were to, IMO, get some fast cash before picking Amy up from the airport and putting the check book back like nothing ever happened.Except she forgot to put the checkbook back? No, I think she tried to convince Amy someone else took it. I recall something like that in the docus. She might have gotten away with it, too, if Cindy hadn't pressed her issues. imo

I think Cindy has a lot of dues to pay, from Casey's view. imo

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 01:41 AM

The Anthonys could learn a lot from her. imo

that is the truth.

whether she is hiding something or not, I dont know -some people just dont want to get involed though.
for whatever reasons...

(not only in this case, in other various cases as well)

it disrupts your whole life.

imo/jmo

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:43 AM

Excellent point! Spot on!

There has to be a commonality and it was what?

you are funny.

the commonality was they are all 20 something individuals......and the person who had NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THEM:

Casey.

she was a parent who should have been living a different lifestyle, that of a mother, a responsible individual who was responsible for another human being.

and stepping into 'their' world every now and then to feel her age and be with her contemporaries every now and then....the problem was:

she couldnt have that life full time. not with a little child.

thats the difference. she didnt belong.

you got it backwards. IMO

best regards,
Pru

babblefishie

09-12-2008, 01:44 AM

Same odds that all Ted Bundy's friends were serial killers.

Sociopaths are often initially very charming and I have no doubt that Casey is able to befriend pretty normal people quite easily.

I have no doubt these friends of hers like to party, even do drugs and howl at the moon, but I'm sure they're probably pretty normal college kids. NOT that most parents on here want to think about that

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:44 AM

Lol LB I was waiting for someone to do that hehe!! I like bold letters actually. Sometimes it makes people listen.
The photos I agree, yes they were and are Skanky. Not one of the "beuatiful People" Just easy peeps. There is a difference.
I still think that it's very possible that CA had some type of prostitution scheme going on. If someone could find out her online site, now that would be pretty much gold in this case. Her income, her true income.
I think she probably had a studio apt somewhere and worked out of it. I think that LE would have that Info from her drive, if she did have her own "business" persay like so many do. They work online, meet with clients strictly and directly from the net. It's easy. I think that was her income. I dont want to fill up my drive with BS though so I've decided not to look too hard for this info. But I think if someone did; they may just find it. Her income or website I thnk.Jenny, it doesn't make sense that she would be stealing all that money from everyone if she was a hooker. She's just a con, pure and simple. Focused on working everyone. And I don't see that Caylee was excluded from Casey's evil deeds. imo

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 01:46 AM

For all we know, Casey might be spending her time at her attny's office reading the boards all day.

So, we probably should avoid giving her any new BS stories for her defense.

Hi cherish, love your nic, but I think Casey is quite capable of making up her own BS stories all on her own. Seems to me she's been doing it all her life and continues to do so. I believe I heard a new BS story presented on NG tonight. You may be right that she's reading here and possibly every other message board on this case, but, frankly I refuse to stop posting any ideas or opinions I have just because she may be reading.
I don't feel the need to back down, bow down or be askeerd because a possible murderess may be reading. I actually think she isn't reading here, her parents maybe :shrug:, but I think she's more interested in MySpace and Facebook and trying to hook up with someone there than she is in anything any of us may be posting about her.
If her parents are reading, well, maybe that's a good thing. They can see that alot of us empathsize with them, feel bad about what they must be going thru and also see how many of feel they should be doing the right thing and not being mean and defensive. Maybe if they read enough of the comments that say they should be taking control and stop enabling Casey, they just might find the courage to do just that.
I doubt it, but I also can hope.

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:46 AM

Sociopaths are often initially very charming and I have no doubt that Casey is able to befriend pretty normal people quite easily.

I have no doubt these friends of hers like to party, even do drugs and howl at the moon, but I'm sure they're probably pretty normal college kids. NOT that most parents on here want to think about thatITA. And it's been my experience that young adults aren't that picky about their associations. imo

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 01:47 AM

So now all of Casey's 'cohorts' are of the same 'likeness' as Casey.

That sure is a lot of sociopaths to have in one place at one time.

The rumor starting is getting beyond ridiculous.

we think alike in that regard. :)

best regards,
Pru

babblefishie

09-12-2008, 01:50 AM

ITA. And it's been my experience that young adults aren't that picky about their associations. imo

Also, with the exception of small handful of friends, Casey seems to burn through different circles before people get a good read on her. I guess you have to do that when you're pilfering funds from your "friends". I don't think these kids really knew WHO they were associating with.

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:51 AM

barskin&co.

09-12-2008, 01:52 AM

Being a hooker would have been too much work for her. Stealing was easier. Maybe drug dealing, but not hooker IMHO. She is too lazy to do "real" work.LOL.

If she had been a prostitute, I believe that would have been revealed by now. That is the sort of thing that is discovered very easily; remember how quickly Amy Fisher's secret life as a pro was exposed?
There are too many clients, coworkers, etc. who will talk.

babblefishie

09-12-2008, 01:53 AM

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 01:54 AM

Why? Because she's not talking? Yeh, there is something about Amy...She has integrity. imo

It's too bad that Casey, some how, wasn't influenced by Amy's integrity. Maybe Cindy could take note of Amy's integrity?

Bluegal

09-12-2008, 01:54 AM

You may be right that she's reading here and possibly every other message board on this case, but, frankly I refuse to stop posting any ideas or opinions I have just because she may be reading.

Respectfully *snipped*

Oregongal,

I can almost see her reading the boards -
Can you imagine how many times she's thought, "Are you KIDDING me?" because some poster has hit really close to what she actually did with Caylee.

Bet her arse gets so tight sometimes you couldn't drive a toothpick in it with a sledgehammer!:biggrin:

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 01:55 AM

Also, with the exception of small handful of friends, Casey seems to burn through different circles before people get a good read on her. I guess you have to do that when you're pilfering funds from your "friends". I don't think these kids really knew WHO they were associating with.Yep. She's a real con artist. Hits the marks and moves on, before anyone gets wise. I suspect there are more who got ripped off, smaller amounts maybe, and they were reluctant to do anything about it. They were probably just glad she moved on. imo

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:55 AM

Prior to now, they've only 'lived' Casey's lies & theft - a far cry from living the horror that she's now putting them through, and that's not even counting the horror that includes the Granddaughter missing that they so dearly cherish.

I know someone in fact in my office who is known to be a liar, obviously on more trivial, minor things than what Casey lied about, but never, EVER would I think that he'd murder anyone.

One does not always equal the other, nor if you're accustomed to one, can you acclimate yourself to the other with ease.

OMG you work with someone that lies :eek: ohhhh ohhhhhh

but i do agree a liar does not equal a murderer.

barskin&co.

09-12-2008, 01:55 AM

Well, it's been a long night of contemplating who else in the big wide world is surely responsible for Caylee's disappearance and likely death other than Team Casey.

Flat wore me out.

Good-night all. :seeya:

I hear ya! :seeya:

As I said before: IMO, Casey probably went through and used up "friends" on a regular basis.

babblefishie

09-12-2008, 01:56 AM

G'nite fellow posters. I love your theories and how we all keep each other on our toes with respectful banter and opposing opinions. Play nice and sleep well. :seeya:

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 01:56 AM

He was supposedly heading to Aruba for Holloway again, but he also has a donations drive on the 13th back in Texas, so who knows where he is at this very moment.
i'm sure the donation drive her in TX will be canceled since where it's at has a manditory evacuation.

OneUp

09-12-2008, 01:57 AM

Awww! I had written Rev. Grund earlier to let him know his faith and words have helped me keep everything in perspective, and to share my sympathies with him. He replied with the loveliest note, and was kind enough to say that my words inspired him. He shared that he has been having a hard time the last few days too. I know that his family is Caylees family regardless of the biology and their hearts must just be broken right now.
If his words have comforted and encouraged you, I recommend that you let him know. Everyone needs encouragement sometimes!
:rose:For those who are Caylees family, not in name but in love.

luvinlife

09-12-2008, 01:57 AM

I have read a few posts re: Calling off the search. Are we still talking about Tim? Or or we talking about LE as well. Is it due to all the standing water on both parties? If that is the case it does not look good. Maybe something was found? Can anyone fill me in on the facts. Thanks:rose:

I believe they were talking about LE stopping all searches, yes due to standing water and no credible leads.

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 01:59 AM

I think Amy's skeerd about something or hiding something.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I think Amy is most likely following LE's suggestion that she not talk to anyone. Except her attorney, if she has one.

Joan Weiss

09-12-2008, 02:00 AM

We do indeed.

But get this.... not one of Casey's 'cohorts' had a child. None. Zero. Zilch.

Completely takes away from the proposed rumor of 'commonality' doesn't it?

Yes.

It does. :)Great observation, Shark. Sadly, that hastened Caylee's departure, imo.

Once again, I leave when you come. Good night, sleep well. :seeya:

luvinlife

09-12-2008, 02:00 AM

Kids her age usually hang with their own likeness, so you think that Casey hung with a bunch of law-abiding, straight & narrow 'others', and she was the only bad seed, huh?

I don't think so!

I would agree if Casey were not a psychopath, she was finding new friends because she had no one left to steal from in the old crowd. She wanted a new life and found a group that she wanted to be like and could pretend to and they wouldn't be any wiser. imo

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 02:02 AM

I think Amy's skeerd about something or hiding something.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Oh, but I just read that Amy has integrity?

IIRC, Amy was bummed because LE had her tied up for several hours during interrogation when she had previously made plans to connect with Tony to retrieve her checkbook.

Please remind me, who is Amy's current boyfriend? Ricardo?

Ricardo taking integrity lessons from Amy?

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 02:02 AM

I wonder about the searches being called off. They knew the flooding and water was there when they started. I have to wonder if something wasn't found. :shrug:

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:02 AM

Im telling you that spare info Key, is Key to this case. I know it is.
But I also think; that she had a place an apt somewhere, a studio, somewhere that Caylee and her slept. I wonder if LE has looked into anything like that. I am not sure about what Apts in her area rent rooms by the month or day or week. I'd check into every one and show her picture though. She was staying somewhere. With Caylee.
I wonder if anyone has looked at those types of Apts? Rent by the week.month etc. They are usually not mainstream; or clean. LE should go to every single one in her small zone she lived in. With Her Picture and Caylees. Maybe someone who doesnt speak english and isnt from the USA, someone who keeps things like this quiet, doesnt follow the news or cases in the news.....saw her?

Who is putting up the 250K for a live Caylee anyway? Did anyone ever find this out? I think it's a good question pinning down her transportation; the cars are also Key in this case. Maybe Caylee died in Amy's car. Casey wouldnt have had that spare key. She would have had the spare key for her pocket for HER car, not Amy's though. Dont mind me I like to just write and throw things out there, it's my way of working things out in my head. Sorry to bore anyone :rose:

I have wondered in the past if cindy helped her get a secret apt.
maybe george wanted her out to 'grow up' & maybe casey convinced cindy to put her up in an apt somewhere, since cindy is the one who convinced her not to give caylee up for adoption.
maybe she made her feel guilty somehow, etc etc.

imo/jmo/just thinking aloud

I dont think any of that would be significant. They are college students, legally not even residents of Florida if they dont want to be.
in FL-you are a legal resident of the state if you have your d/l switched over -if you applied for a job and actually worked somewhere in FL.
if you enroll your children im public school, register to vote, file for homestead exemption, or reside in FL for more than 6 consecutive months.
(read this in my phone book a little while ago)

imo/jmo/etc

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:04 AM

We do indeed.

But get this.... not one of Casey's 'cohorts' had a child. None. Zero. Zilch.

Completely takes away from the proposed rumor of 'commonality' doesn't it?

Yes.

It does. :)
actually caseys friend kristina chester has a child.

OneUp

09-12-2008, 02:07 AM

Kids her age usually hang with their own likeness, so you think that Casey hung with a bunch of law-abiding, straight & narrow 'others', and she was the only bad seed, huh?

I don't think so!Actually, that's exactly the type people I think she would gravitate to. It's probably rather difficult to pull a con on other cons...don't you think?
JMO.

Ionmhainn

09-12-2008, 02:08 AM

We do indeed.

But get this.... not one of Casey's 'cohorts' had a child. None. Zero. Zilch.

Completely takes away from the proposed rumor of 'commonality' doesn't it?

Yes.

It does. :)

I think that's an oversimplification. Not having a child is no measure of good behavior , is it?

Pruddennce

09-12-2008, 02:08 AM

Casey is not just a liar. She's a psychopath - lying is just one symptom.

I believe the Anthony's have lived with their daughter's problems for 22 years and did the best they could - under circumstances that no layman can understand. IMO Casey is the bad seed.

ditto.

I point out their discrepancies because it is fact...however, it is also behaviour that cannot be undone in a blink of an eye after all of those years dealing with her...caving in because its easier than facing the storm. false sense of security when they claim they 'always got to the bottom of the truth with Casey'....it was the truth they wanted it to be.

thus, they remain in their false truth state: Caylee is abducted.

although they know now their daughter didnt have a job and had no need for child care, they continue the same behaviour.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 02:08 AM

Well, that's IF all of her friends were actually 'new'. ;)

i'm a little confused. do you believe caseys friends had something to do with Caylee missing?

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 02:13 AM

Not true at all, there's only ONE person of interest and that's Casey according to LE.

I think LE is also interested in the kidnappers.

The body kidnapping snatchers, maybe?

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 02:16 AM

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

Scary picture.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

cherish

09-12-2008, 02:19 AM

Why wasnt Amy's car pulled into CSI along with Casey's? Did she find anything out of the ordinary in HER car? Any stains; blood or did she have to clean it really well after she came back? We have no clue. WHY it wasnt confiscated in this case I dont know. Now I'm going to be unable to sleep as I ponder THIS thought, that she wouldn NOT have had a spare key and could have locked Caylee IN that car, and couldnt get her OUT, in time. Like Before. LIke lee said was this like before. What could have prompted this family to Agree and Know, that Casey had this spare key she always kept in her pocket so she wouldnt lock Caylee inside the car.......Now that makes sense to ME.
GEEZ Louise.

I locked my keys in the car, with my kids in their car seats, while the car was running. I was at a do-it-yourself car wash, got out to dry off the car, and the dog hit the door lock button. This was before everyone had cell phones, so I ran to the closest business and got them to call police. It was only minutes til the police came and broke into the car.

That's was the first and last time I ever did anything that stupid. It's also when I decided to hide a spare key under the car.

But, keeping a spare key in your pocket makes no sense to me.

(What if you lose your pants, on the same day that you lock your kid in the car?)

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 02:20 AM

We'll see when the time comes, but I'm certainly not ruling that out!
very true, time will tell. right now though you have NO PROOF they are ANYTHING like Casey.

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 02:21 AM

Why wasnt Amy's car pulled into CSI along with Casey's? Did she find anything out of the ordinary in HER car? Any stains; blood or did she have to clean it really well after she came back? We have no clue. WHY it wasnt confiscated in this case I dont know. Now I'm going to be unable to sleep as I ponder THIS thought, that she wouldn NOT have had a spare key and could have locked Caylee IN that car, and couldnt get her OUT, in time. Like Before. LIke lee said was this like before. What could have prompted this family to Agree and Know, that Casey had this spare key she always kept in her pocket so she wouldnt lock Caylee inside the car.......Now that makes sense to ME.
GEEZ Louise.

jenny, we don't know that Amy's car wasn't. Since LE is keeping so much so close, they may have CSI'd her car and found nothing. In fact, I feel they might have because it figures into the timeline when Caylee went missing. They may have even dusted for prints on the glove box at least because Amy's checkbook was in there when Casey had the car. A bit of proof attached to the economic charges.
Also, about Lee saying...like before...this makes me think this family is hiding ALOT about Casey's mothering long before Caylee going missing.
Poor lil girl. :(

Fallen Angel

09-12-2008, 02:22 AM

True, she hadn't "gotten there yet" - but what was she into with these people that she needed to get rid of Caylee for a month while she did it?

Only drinking and shacking up?

I don't think so!

show us the proof you have that these kids have a "criminal record" like you said last night.

need2no

09-12-2008, 02:24 AM

Thank you! Your insightful and intelligent post allows me to leave this board in peace tonight. :seeya:

WOW...what a nice compliment...especially coming from you!

Sleep well.:seeya:

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 02:25 AM

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/233

Scary picture.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

It is a scary picture.

Looks like Cindy when she takes hold of the hammer

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:27 AM

:chicken: Do you all get that? It really isnt even that far fetched.

How did Casey think she was going to get around, after she gave Amy her car back, and was pretty much stranded over at Tone's Apt? Who, was driving her around? Is this why he resigned because he was in some way involved; in transporting her around during the time Caylee was missing? I really need to know WHY he resigned. It's the timing; it's too convenient. Too much for me; and then he leaves the state?

Is Casey afraid of him because he was LE? did he threaten her in some way? There is no TRO; nothing like that. So why did he Leave and resign that job with LE? And did LE ask him to resign because he was involved in some way, maybe with check cahsing or something illegal. Maybe he popped positive on a drug test. what do you all think the reason is for him resigning from his position?

huh? I thought he was fired for lying about his involvement with her?
he said it was a one night thing-but her computer and their conversations over the comp said otherwise?:shrug:

imo/jmo

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:31 AM

She's not one of the 'cohorts.'

Unless of course someone here has some rumor thought up about her too. :shrug:
lol, I must have been absent the day that the official list of cohorts was revealed.

imo/jmo

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:35 AM

It is a scary picture.

Looks like Cindy when she takes hold of the hammer

huh? who is her best friend that the article talks about--is there a place to read the entire article online?

dang I was at a store today with these silly mags and I didnt even think to look at them!

imo/jmo

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:37 AM

Yeah, she's the one who was sobbing in the phone call with Casey in jail, right?

Just sobbing, near hysteria, so sad.

yea, she is the one in the phone call with the 'oh my god what a waste' comment.

Kristina is the one that says, sobbing "if anything happens to my baby".....

imo/jmo

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 02:38 AM

Hey jenny...and again sorry for your loss:rose: I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if Casey was an online call girl (sorry if that is not the hip term--maybe progressive female exploring her options for cash) but regardless...something stuck with me just like with the car...the stuff she has said has half truths in them...I understand the searches by LE are officiallly called off...but I wonder, did they find anything?

I notice that the Anthony's car is blocking the driveway...from the cam. BTW it is raining slightly now here in Houston. I am on the north side of town. Not evacuating. But we lose power at the slightest glitch on 290

I have thought the same about Casey...ie: call girl, pros, working girl...I don't think it matters what term, hip or not. I showed my 28 yr old DD some of Casey's pics, the hot body ones at Fushion and the ones that were found online, those 4 suggestive ones, she said immediatley, she's a ho. My DD is now a devoted single, Christian mom, but she has a past. So I trust her instincts on things like this. She laughs and thinks I'm cute (blech :tongue:) about my naivete in alot of things. But, she's also been my go to girl about alot of things having to do with Casey.

Stay safe LB and I hope it doesn't get any worse for you than losing power.
:rose:

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 02:42 AM

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:43 AM

Yikes before I go I had to look; I think that is superimposed on caylee's photo; thats actually two photos because I remember seeing that photo of Casey and Caylee wasnt there she was hamming for the camera; at a bar. I can almost see where it was cropped. Did anyone save this photo before they were erased? Wow, a Globe Exclusive....geez louise!
ACK I say. Rubbish as the McScuses would say........
hmm-could be another photo that say only a best friend would have.
is the article on the stands yet?
who is her best friend?
ugh.
someone sold out to the globe-I notice we dont hear anything from amy or kristina

imo/jmo
the way caylees hair falls on her arm looks like a legit pic-maybe that is a day the nanny was picking her up (from the bar)
ugh.

again-imo/jmo

mosey2

09-12-2008, 02:45 AM

ITA. George's incident report about the gas cans is at 10AM and Casey shows up at 2:30 PM with the gas cans the same day! George said there was 1 gal gas in one can, value $20. and 2 gal. gas in the other can, value $50. on the police report. Come on, we have all had something taken from our premises without reporting it to the police. George also said he saw Casey & Caylee leave on the 17th at 1:30 just before he went to work (watching food Program) so why was he home on the 24th at 2:30 when Casey arrived with gas cans - 7 days later I doubt his schedule was changed. Did he tell Cindy to shut up after he arrived home on the 15th after she had found Casey and reported her to the police? Cindy sure changed her tune right after that. Maybe that is why Casey isn't talking because she doesn't know where Caylee is. Looks like the whole family is protecting each other to me.
Casey's first call during the "flurry of calls" is to George at 3pm. The following calls start an hour later and are mear minutes apart -to Mom (several), Tony and Amy, but never to George again, which leads me to believe she actually spoke to him. Also the very first jailhouse phone call has Casey speaking to everyone in the house but George. Why? Did he already know the story the others were trying to get out of Casey?

MOO

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 02:46 AM

OneUp

09-12-2008, 02:47 AM

Night all!
Thanks for not giving me grief about the "stinky meat in the wedding ring" story, my family has been ribbing me since yesterday. The Sheriffs office though sent me a little note thanking me for the "insight" and said it was something that no one writing in tips and ideas had suggested yet.(That they P/U Casey's jewelry she wore regularly and check the crevices, etc. for decomp./DNA). I was surprised to get a return note!
I felt silly sending them an email, but can you imagine if this went unsolved for 20 years and then *thud* some yahoo found Caylee's DNA in Casey's ring and FINALLY the last clue to clinch it was there....I'd never forgive myself! Better to look foolish than always wonder!:D...luckily I'v found that looking foolish isn't fatal!
Jmo...last Opinion from me tonight!
Night:seeya:

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:48 AM

Reading some articles, it's too bad that the search was called off, anyone know why Kidfinder pulled out when Tim was here?

Is there some Golden Rule that only one search organization can look for a missing person?

Hmmm....

heck no, I dont think it's a rule--look at those blog people that went looking.
oh and a story I read about a family searching and finding their loved one on the property where they thought she might be.
so sad.
(I think that story was on here somewhere)

you bet your duppa I'd be out looking for my baby, or anyone near me that I could.
Im not a search team, but I consider myself a good detective spy on the homefront here.
;)

imo/jmo/etc

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 02:48 AM

Hi 5BM, did you see the one webcam that was on that flooded Pond today? Im sorry peeps but I tried to keep up today and I never did read if anyone knew; was this the flooded area they are planning on searching? It was disturbing; there was stuff floating all over; it was a flooded pond on Cam1 today. I wish I had not seen it; all I wanted to know was what the hell did that have to do with this case? why was the cam on it all day today? And, did they find something? Why were the searchers crying were those reports bogus and who would report something like that if it was not true....

I just dont know; all I want is for Justice for these little kids who should be playing ball right now; and going back to school and getting ready for Halloween. I think that Madeleine loved to dress up too. From her pictures I could tell that. I think Caylee loved to dress up too. From her pictures that I can tell. I dont believe that Caylee and Casey really moved out of the home, I believe that was a lie. No one, not one person can tell us where Caylee was sleeping during this time.
Why not? Was she at home as usual? Did she slip out and get into the pool one morning after the Anthony's left for work, and Casey was hung over as usual? Why did cindy bring up the ladder and the pool during Greta's interview?? Did she really have Caylee that day and Casey was GONE; but Caylee was at HOME with Cindy and when the Flurry of calls came in it was CASEY to try to find out where Caylee was and why her mom or dad would not answer her calls? Im still kind of on that theory...as you can see. After all Cindy is the one who brought it up to Greta.

Blah. Finally I am tired out and hope that LE has what they need to charge in this case. Im just not sure, really who had Caylee last. I think if the Video tape is not of this year though, that will be huge proof that the Anthony's tried to mislead this investigation. Hasnt anyone else, actually sat down and looked, really LOOKED at that recent photo of Caylee, she looks much older than that Video, longer legs longer Hair, her face is different, Im totally not convinced that video was of this year. Where are the nurses from the nursing home; why havent one of them been bought for a tell all on the last time I saw Caylee etc. Usually by now; someone would have been bought. They would have been one of the last people to see her alive. So why havent we heard from ONE SINGLE AIDE from that nursing home??

Was Caylee and Casey staying at her G'mas home during those few weeks? Why hasnt HER home been searched? Why hasnt SHE been interviewed?? About 2 weeks ago I heard about HER apt, had NO IDEA that Casey's GMA had an apt close by. Did she sleep there? Someone had to see this child at night; where the hell was she sleeping? In the trunk? None of us want to believe that; and none of us want to even go there about scratches on that trunk. But they were mentioned. :shrug: Im going to try to sleep now I think I've worn myself out; finally. Litty Bitty stay safe during the storm. Seeya all tomorrow, thanks for letting me vent and rant....I just have these questions and I want answers.
For the little ones
Dots

I did see that on the cam today. Someone said there was a contest of some kind going on. Nothing to do with Caylee.
I also wondered about the GM's apartment. I spent many nights at my GM's house so I guess Casey could have too.

It bothers me that Caylee was around so many different people, at parties and such. Poor little thing. I bet she wanted her Grandma.:(

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Leanne Weich

09-12-2008, 02:50 AM

Doubtful since the majority of their signs and mugs are pointed towards the CAMERAS and away from the very home they're pretending to protest.

Seeing as it i obvious the Anthonys are monitoring the news stations, the protesters possibly feel that that is the way to get their message across to them.

mosey2

09-12-2008, 02:51 AM

TT, don't forget about the $400 that came up missing from Amy before she went on her vacation. So she did, IMO, already put the screws to Amy. The checkbook and cleaning out Amy's account was the topping on the cake. The only thing wrong with Amy is she was just one of those, me included, that trusts people a lil too much. Trust is a good thing until we find out we've been betrayed by those we trust.
:(

What got me is, that during Amys interview with LE she said something along the lines of "Casey won't know I'm saying these things about her, will she? She's my best friend and I don't want to hurt her feelings" (paraphrasing)

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 02:51 AM

hmm-could be another photo that say only a best friend would have.
is the article on the stands yet?
who is her best friend?
ugh.
someone sold out to the globe-I notice we dont hear anything from amy or kristina

imo/jmo
the way caylees hair falls on her arm looks like a legit pic-maybe that is a day the nanny was picking her up (from the bar)
ugh.

again-imo/jmo

The rumor on another board is that it is Kristina. :eek:

jmo

Caylee:rose:

2Hope4

09-12-2008, 02:52 AM

you are funny.

the commonality was they are all 20 something individuals......and the person who had NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THEM:

Casey.

she was a parent who should have been living a different lifestyle, that of a mother, a responsible individual who was responsible for another human being.

and stepping into 'their' world every now and then to feel her age and be with her contemporaries every now and then....the problem was:

she couldnt have that life full time. not with a little child.

thats the difference. she didnt belong.

you got it backwards. IMO

best regards,
Pru

Oh how very true. IMO, Casey was a cameleon (sp?) attempting to fit in with whatever crowd she was hanging with at the time. She didn't want to be a part of the single parent crowd. She wanted to hang with the 'cool' group. The crowd that was out having fun, partying, taking exams on an hours sleep, living on their own, with their own money, and only responsible for themself, with no one to answer to. No curfews. No one asking them where they were going, and what time they would be home, etc.

Unfortunately, Caylee didn't fit in with this lifestyle. :(

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 02:56 AM

I have thought the same about Casey...ie: call girl, pros, working girl...I don't think it matters what term, hip or not. I showed my 28 yr old DD some of Casey's pics, the hot body ones at Fushion and the ones that were found online, those 4 suggestive ones, she said immediatley, she's a ho. My DD is now a devoted single, Christian mom, but she has a past. So I trust her instincts on things like this. She laughs and thinks I'm cute (blech :tongue:) about my naivete in alot of things. But, she's also been my go to girl about alot of things having to do with Casey.

Stay safe LB and I hope it doesn't get any worse for you than losing power.
:rose:
I wouldnt be surprised if casey was doing something like that.
imo/jmo

and again the duckett case comes to mind here.

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:04 AM

Seeing as it i obvious the Anthonys are monitoring the news stations, the protesters possibly feel that that is the way to get their message across to them.
no, they've been facing the webcam since it was put up.

imo/jmo
The rumor on another board is that it is Kristina. :eek:

jmo

Caylee:rose:
ohhhhh interesting...interesting....
I have a theory on her, but Im not saying it yet.

imo/jmo

No idea trying to find out about the searches myself. Could be many reasons we dont know. I think Tim's response made alot of sense about the water levels and perhaps compromising a search by running over water sogged territory with ATV's etc. not to mention the risk to searcher's with all that excessive water. Gator's/snakes etc. Kudos to all that do the searching. You are truly earths angels. :rose:
did any of the searchers that went from here mention the water/flooding? I cant remember if I read that any of them encountered it or not.
if you live in fl one thing you know is that is gets hot after a rain, so it could be a downpour-and the ground is literally dry 5 minutes later and you wouldnt even know it rained.
at least that is how it is in my town.
the canal out back will rise a little, but the next day it is down again.
Not that I dont believe Tim.
he is working with LE though-could be he was asked to keep quiet-I can still see him at the PC -he was so choked up in the beginning of it for a little bit, my heart dropped, I thought for sure he was going to say they found caylee.

imo/jmo

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 03:05 AM

Jenny, it doesn't make sense that she would be stealing all that money from everyone if she was a hooker. She's just a con, pure and simple. Focused on working everyone. And I don't see that Caylee was excluded from Casey's evil deeds. imo

Oh but Joan, she has a sense of entitlement. She obviously wanted everyone to believe she was better than she was and wanted more than she had. Her using the word nanny rather than babysitter or day care provider is an example. And she probably isn't a good money manager, stealing gas from her parents is an example of that. Most people who manage their finances well keep up on the amount of gas they have, broken gauge or not. She may have been a hooker, but had to supplement by thieving and conning. Just because she may have been a paid ho, doesn't mean she made enough that she wouldn't have had steal and con others to get the money she wanted and/or felt entitled to.

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:08 AM

Oh but Joan, she has a sense of entitlement. She obviously wanted everyone to believe she was better than she was and wanted more than she had. Her using the word nanny rather than babysitter or day care provider is an example. And she probably isn't a good money manager, stealing gas from her parents is an example of that. Most people who manage their finances well keep up on the amount of gas they have, broken gauge or not. She may have been a hooker, but had to supplement by thieving and conning. Just because she may have been a paid ho, doesn't mean she made enough that she wouldn't have had steal and con others to get the money she wanted and/or felt entitled to.

oh man, I still remember her childhood friend saying she was a 'one upper'- he was near to graduate college and she said she worked at universal, something along those lines-man I can even remember what his name was.
he's in the 400 docs though

imo/jmo

cherish

09-12-2008, 03:09 AM

I wouldnt be surprised if casey was doing something like that.
imo/jmo

and again the duckett case comes to mind here.

I would totally be surprised. "Working girls" earn a living.

It seems that Casey doesn't "earn", she takes.

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:10 AM

lol, you didn't offend, silly.

I just thought you'd like to have the links for yourself so that you could pass to others the type that do not require downloading, that's all. :seeya:

lol
thanks for posting them
I redid my comp a couple weeks ago and never reinstalled the stuff to download pdf's, so those are very handy if I dont have to d/l them

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:11 AM

I would totally be surprised. "Working girls" earn a living.

It seems that Casey doesn't "earn", she takes.
but when she ran out of people to take from--she had to get the money somewhere.

imo/jmo

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 03:11 AM

oh man, I still remember her childhood friend saying she was a 'one upper'- he was near to graduate college and she said she worked at universal, something along those lines-man I can even remember what his name was.
he's in the 400 docs though

imo/jmo

Ryan?

The sad thing is Casey could have had a good job and things like that if she would have worked at it a little bit. Wonder what her life has been like since she got fired in 2006 until June 2008?

Caylee:rose:

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 03:13 AM

Garcias. Sorry. Didn't mean to hijack any links. I guess I am on edge because of where I am vs. evil hurricane. thanks. If you have better links than me post them to the document dump. that would be good. :D

Be safe. That is nice to just click on the isn't it?

Caylee:rose:

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 03:13 AM

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:16 AM

Ryan?

The sad thing is Casey could have had a good job and things like that if she would have worked at it a little bit. Wonder what her life has been like since she got fired in 2006 until June 2008?

Caylee:rose:

oh yea, Im pretty sure that was his name.
sadly, I think caseys mind went when she herself found out she was pg.
lets see, caylee was born in august of 05 so in Nov/Dec of 04 she was pg.
practically just out of high school, well, you know.
but still, her life was 'over' before it began in her eyes.

imo/jmo

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 03:21 AM

I wonder about the searches being called off. They knew the flooding and water was there when they started. I have to wonder if something wasn't found. :shrug:

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I wonder too boxer, the reasons given are because of the flooding and absolutely no good lead they can go on. But, in the back of my mind (as sick as it makes me) I can't help but think they may have found something. And it would make sense they wouldn't say right away, they would need a few days to confirm whether or not it was Caylee.
I am still in the place where I want her found yet am afraid to know if they found her. I guess I just yet can't handle that picture in my mind.

aubrey04

09-12-2008, 03:25 AM

ugh. The hurricane is headed my way and it is messing w/my ability to keep up with this case. I see new charges have been filed against Casey and she is now facing up to FIFTY YEARS in prison? Help me out -- any kind soul.. I read the article about the new charges - how are they different from the charges from last week?

Don't they pertain to Casey's unlawful usage of Amy's credit cards?

Anyone care to explain... ? pretty please. TIA. :seeya:

ETA -- oops not credit cards, checks -- I meant.......... errrr.

5boxersmom

09-12-2008, 03:27 AM

I wonder too boxer, the reasons given are because of the flooding and absolutely no good lead they can go on. But, in the back of my mind (as sick as it makes me) I can't help but think they may have found something. And it would make sense they wouldn't say right away, they would need a few days to confirm whether or not it was Caylee.
I am still in the place where I want her found yet am afraid to know if they found her. I guess I just yet can't handle that picture in my mind.

I know what you mean. Tim looked so wore out, then some of the searchers were crying, a few have posted over the net of finding something but won't say what. I understand why they can't. Just makes me wonder. :(

Caylee:rose:

Shellberry

09-12-2008, 03:29 AM

I thought one of the searchers from here did say that was the reason-weather. Dont quote me. I also remember a post from one of the searchers here that there was a find of something of interest and approp. secured and then the search was called off for the weather reasons i mentioned. Didnt know if there is any link to that or what anyone else may have found. I truly hope so. I dont think this has a good outcome and gawd it would be good to bring that little girl home to rest. i know when i saw Tim on that broadcast my heart sunk as well-he looked so worn. How he does what he does is beyond me. And of course the many others like him.

I remember reading it was called because of the weather situation, but I was wondering if any of their teams actually encountered the 'conditions' that were talked about.
I cant even remember what I read in that thread anymore, and Im too tired to look through it right now.
man this case is taking its toll on me for sure.
I think something (someone) was found in this past weekends search & that is why Tim pulled out.
did he even pull out? I didnt see anything official-just going by snippets that I've skimmed through in here today. (not time to catch up :()
ugh.

imo/jmo/etc

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 03:33 AM

aubrey04

09-12-2008, 03:34 AM

It's my understanding thru very quick reading that she was just formally charged on the charges mentioned prior. I dont have a list of them but i know it was posted earlier. We were out of the city for several hrs. so i cant remember how far back. However i did also read there were other charges pending of the same nature. Sorry i could not be more help. Much more savvy people on this board but probably sleeping by now.

TY very much. That makes sense. I was confuzzled :read:..

Marianne

09-12-2008, 03:36 AM

he said Lee was outside, told them they were going to take the test then shortly after came back out and said they were not going to.

in that clip when they show her being arrested...she sure does have that EVIL look on her face...imo!

They way yhey explained it on NG was that everyone had at first agreed to the test then George made a big scene and forbade it.

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 03:36 AM

You see THIS is exactly where I think the media and how you Look comes into play. Surely a blond pretty Dr, could not would not slap her own child too hard or OD her on sleeping pills could she!! Surely a pretty young 22 yr old could not murder her own child to further her single life, esp if she has a body and is the least bit photogenic.
But if you are the mother of 7 children married to a SO; and NOT beautiful surely you just walked away and left 7 children behind, these are the recent cases in the news. And there is a definite stigma and bias towards these cases if you are a beautiful child or a beautiful lovely mother, a doctor, an event planner, daughter of prior LE surely you could not have offed your own? And this is what the Anthony's are banking on; this script of the Media spin, as this slimy PR Atty did just last night on Prime Time TV, surely this child is MISSING ABDUCTED, maybe in a Pedo ring or something!!!!
And we say, we sit here and PROTEST in writing because we are calling BS on these "mothers" because we are sure they killed their child. Sure as sos for dinner for the rest of Casey Anthony's life in prison. LE is building their case. Lets hope not too many blind peeps send in MONEY to their DEFENSE FUND which I KNEW was surely to come next. I hope they have feedback on that site, and I hope it BOMBS as much as Drew Petersons did. It was taken down, what within a few days? I forgot already. He's yesterdays news. The anthony's are after the Big Bucks. Of that, Im certain. Caylee has been forgotten as surely and as quickly as Madeleine was. The only thing missing here is the Pope.

Dots

YES, you go girl! And let's not forget how if failed with Scott Peterson too. I also hope that no lil old ladies or peeps that trust anything that comes along will not be drawn into this. To me that will be a travesty and will look at it as just another way Casey is stealing and conning. If you go there jenny, let us know if there is a feedback feature and post a link. I'm will sure go and give some feedback and I think a good many of us would also.
Caylee has not been forgotten by me, that's the only reason I'm here.
For Caylee
:rose:

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 03:45 AM

Jen, I also saw cam1 this morning, afternoon.

Made me very sad.

Someone posted earlier today that that cam was from a wave board, surf board competition or something like that. Had nothing to do with Caylee and the searches.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 03:48 AM

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...

Now I'm just throwing some ideas out here...One is: she was running away from home essentially stealing the kid (since she knew Cindy wanted custody ) so she wanted to do a disappearing act....she had already dumped Caylee's body by then and was staging a kidnap...her own kidnap. She was surprised when her mother found her. She did a really lousey job in staging her disappearance since she left her pocket book and Amy's number on the front seat. So it is really hard to figure out what she had up her sleeve.

Also she had to have dumped Caylee and then gone food shopping before running out of gas and i think she planned and timed all this. There is confusion as to when Tony picked her up.was it 7 am or 1:30 pm and how did she contact Tony?

Then remember in the jail house convo with Lee as she goes on about loosing her sim card and changing them etc...a big long lie about losing her phone...dont know the dates on that....also she lies and says Nanny contacted her on the phone.

So did she lose her phone (s) (the sim card thing) and then go out and buy a new phone....perhaps open a new account?

Marianne

09-12-2008, 03:50 AM

Do you mean shovel? LOL.

No poster means shower i believe...she called one of her boyfriends to take a shower at his place.

luvinlife

09-12-2008, 04:08 AM

Why does NG keep having this Mark Jacobs (I think) on her show, the girl is much better imo he keeps getting things wrong or he doesn't know stuff that I think he should about the story? jmo

:mad:

tiny paw-prints

09-12-2008, 04:09 AM

There's a LATE NIGHT THREAD now open for business!

:hat:

Oregongal

09-12-2008, 04:11 AM

What got me is, that during Amys interview with LE she said something along the lines of "Casey won't know I'm saying these things about her, will she? She's my best friend and I don't want to hurt her feelings" (paraphrasing)

Sociopaths have that effect on people. There is a certain unidentified fear within those who have been even a little close to them. Their guts and intuition are telling them something, but they just can't identify or prove it.
They will say things just like Amy said to not have to face or bring out the constant undercurrent of rage running within the socio's. Amy saying Casey won't know I'm saying these things about her, will she, tells me she has that gut feeling of fear of Casey.
There are many wives married to sociopath/narcisstics that say, but he's my husband and I love him and it isn't because they are physically abused, they just know within them there is that fear that cannot be proven, so they will not speak of it.
Picture Amy as that wife and Casey as that husband.
Don't know if this is making sense to anyone, but I can understand why Amy would say this. And I can totally understand and think that she may be scared beyond words at this point with all these new charges against Casey that pertain to her. It could also be another reason, other than what I posted before (LE asking her not to talk to anyone), why she may not be responding and/or talking to reporters or anyone about this whole thing.

luvinlife

09-12-2008, 04:17 AM

Sociopaths have that effect on people. There is a certain unidentified fear within those who have been even a little close to them. Their guts and intuition are telling them something, but they just can't identify or prove it.
They will say things just like Amy said to not have to face or bring out the constant undercurrent of rage running within the socio's. Amy saying Casey won't know I'm saying these things about her, will she, tells me she has that gut feeling of fear of Casey.
There are many wives married to sociopath/narcisstics that say, but he's my husband and I love him and it isn't because they are physically abused, they just know within them there is that fear that cannot be proven, so they will not speak of it.
Picture Amy as that wife and Casey as that husband.
Don't know if this is making sense to anyone, but I can understand why Amy would say this. And I can totally understand and think that she may be scared beyond words at this point with all these new charges against Casey that pertain to her. It could also be another reason, other than what I posted before (LE asking her not to talk to anyone), why she may not be responding and/or talking to reporters or anyone about this whole thing.

I agree, I have used the abused wife analogy as well for Cindy and George. They continue to defend for the same reason imo not for fear of safety but the mental challenge of challenging her. I have no experience with a sociopath, but do know women in abusive situations and women who live with drug addicts who continually lie. To catch them in the lie is so exhausting, you sometimes give up out of frustration and doubting yourself. They do and say what they have to, to survive the situation until they have the strength to get away. jmho

Marianne

09-12-2008, 04:23 AM

If Lenny is telling the truth ( who knows about him though? he confuses me...) can someone please tell me why my compassion button is broken if I don't feel sorry for them? Who refuses a poly? It's not court admissable anyway...Of course, guilty people refuse a poly. I was only thinking that everyone was in on purposely confusing the facts, maybe not bringing forth evidence, but IMO refusing a poly (IF it turns out to be true) is a big tell that someone in the group is feeling guilty and worried about being caught at something outright illegal...and that all three are working to keep that under wraps.
Do any of you know of a single missing child case where a poly was refused by family who was found later to be innocent?
I'm sure someone will have a million excuses why one would refuse a poly, but in my book the truth needs not hide its face. The truth really is its own best defense.
JMO.

It seems to me that this whole family is a pack of liers. i got that impression initially from Cindy when she so matter of factly excused her own daughters lying as nothing more than 'half truths' which didn't seem to concern her. (and remember Casey has been betraying her for a year and a half and more).

I would be outraged to find out my daughter had lied to me, stolen from me and deceived me about my granddaughter.) But now lying seems to come easy for Cindy as well as George.

I think as a collective they all know they are a sorry bunch...but then George is the one most afraid....and George knows he is lying...at least about the body in the trunk....possibly more re the chloroform, the gas cans, ???

Truth is not important to them. Survival is. And as long as LE doesnt have a body Casey cant get life or the DP. And as long as they can excuse Casey they do not have to face themselves.

nutterbutter

09-12-2008, 04:50 AM

I agree, I have used the abused wife analogy as well for Cindy and George. They continue to defend for the same reason imo not for fear of safety but the mental challenge of challenging her. I have no experience with a sociopath, but do know women in abusive situations and women who live with drug addicts who continually lie. To catch them in the lie is so exhausting, you sometimes give up out of frustration and doubting yourself. They do and say what they have to, to survive the situation until they have the strength to get away. jmho
Morning thread is open.Please follow here.thanks

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12104446#post12104446

Marianne

09-12-2008, 04:50 AM

True, I wonder why Cindy didn't call Children's Services on her own Daughter.

It is had to understand and so pathetic to watch how Cindy can be so duped so betrayed by own logic and so taken advantage of. I think Cindy must be borderline herself to at once know her daughter was a lier and a sociopath and hurt people and then to trust her as her best friend. Cindy believed in a fantasy she wanted to believe qbout her daughter and her daughter knew the script by heart and just fed it to her....you know the glamour everything is easy and Ok ...zanny and fun, a job at universal...money no problem....just steal it....its only a half crime since she needed it she would say to herself and of course Cindy is willing to endorse it.

Cindy didnt call social services because her daughter was all of a sudden so mature and responsible and socially correct.

Cindy at the bond hearing is still unwilling to accept that Casey put her off refusing to let her talk to Caylee who was already dead..no Cindy excuses it blames her self for calling at inopertune times.

There is something very seriously detrimental that happens to a child when a parent thinks everything they do and every decision they make is just Ok and wonderful and of no need for concern. I dont know if you remember Kathy Boudine who was part of a group to take down the gov't with force (in the 60's). She is now behind bars for life. But she was a priviledge child of a rich lawyer and a poet and she went to private schools but her mother always treated her like that...and her mother who is the poet and perfectly sane has spent much of her time in psychoanalysis because it is a chic thing to do and she could afford it. It gave her this air of total indifference.mystically qualifying everything Kathy did as just perfectly fine and that she would work out whatever she needed to on her own.

You cannot treat a child with such indifference, you have to set boundaries and you have to let a child know when it has hurt you. When children have no boundaries it leads to violence, to crime and indifference to others.

Sure Cindy does a great job indulging her children when they are young at least but I have no doubt if Caylee were still alive and living with the GP that she too would have problems as she got into her teens.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 05:10 AM

[QUOTE=~DaddysGirl~;12103024]How are they protecting her, and from what?

Surely you know that if and when LE ever gets it together, they're more than free to charge Casey with murder, right?

So what are George & Cindy "protecting" - and from whom?[/QUOTe

SELF-RESPONSIBILITY

Marianne

09-12-2008, 05:13 AM

Just getting here, havent' watched nancy yet.. That's kind of funny, she's that important that she needs a friend to monitor her facebook?? Sounds a bit odd.. wonder who that friend is, I'm surprised she has many left.. if it's a friend.

Baez is doing it to raise money.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 05:21 AM

Did LP say they at first they agreed to take it...but Lee talked them out of it?

George refused to allow his family to take it. He made a big scene...."no testing". George is the problem.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 05:38 AM

[QUOTE=~DaddysGirl~;12103089]more from this link -

"Making life a hell and misery for the rest of the Anthony family isn't going to achieve making Casey talk." What they're doing is PUNISHING the Anthony family because they can't punish Casey or have any real affect on her. If they protested the office of whoever allows Casey such lenient time away from home confinement at her lawyers office, maybe they'd achieve something.

There are a lot of people who say the Anthonys should make Casey spill the beans.

How pray tell?

Beat it out of her?

Starve her?

Kick her out of the house?

Like many criminals Casey is stubborn and refuses to talk because the moment she does she commits herself to more than likely a lifetime in prison. If she's not going to open up and tell LE or the FBI who have skilled investigators how do we expect the family to get it out of her?"

http://www.truecrimereport.com/[/QUOTE

She's feel my wrath, my disgust and shame at having her for a daughter. She's cook her own dinner and clean up after herself. She would watch me beat my breast and make ugly faces at her and listem to me me rant about how could she kill her own child. How could she allow her child to be taken? She wouldnt get any tee shirts from me.

LP did say last night that Cindy and the rest of the bunch were forbidden to talk to her about the case.

How do women handle anger? A lot internalize it.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 06:09 AM

And Casey didn't waste any time. She was spending on the very same day.

I've been working on an on-line calender so I can remember some of these dates.

Wonder if Casey had any money, cash money, left, on the day Caylee was reported missing. The 15th is when she cashed a check for $250 "cash". Her intentions were to, IMO, get some fast cash before picking Amy up from the airport and putting the check book back like nothing ever happened.

This is what I don't understand. She had already cleaned out her greatgrand parents retirement account. Where is all that money? why would she even need to steal from Amy if she had all that dough?

mosey2

09-12-2008, 06:21 AM

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...
Wasn't this the weekend she supposedly went to the beach with Jesse Grund? On Saturday June 28th @ 1:12pm Casey posts Facebook message to Cameron Campana (Fuzzy Red Balloons band): "Got drunk last night. Threatened to kill someone. Good times."
and @ 3:45pm Casey shares photobucket pic(s) w/Cameron.
I havent seen the pictures yet, though. The "All White Paryt" was at Fusian on Friday the 27th, but we don't know if Casey was there.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 06:40 AM

It sounds like the grandmother took that same leap by just writing Casey a check. If Casey had not found Amy`s checkbook, I just bet she would of found another way to put the screws to Amy.

I for one never thought it would be so easy to walk into a store and use a check with no ID. Casey is quite the con artist and her daughter missing did not slow her down one bit. So very sad.

You know I know Casey at the age of 22 is considered a grown woman but under the circumstances she is living at home with a child her mother is caring for...but it seems Cindy would want to know more about Casey's finances...if she was working and had a job why not contribute to the hosehold. wouldnt she want to know where her daughtwer banked?

Did she just write checks to Casey and expect her to get ripped off at a check cashing place?

From what we have all heard about I haven't seen or heard of any expense that would add up to the over $45,000 (retirement fund ???).
I just dont get it. Where are all the new clothes she bought...hanging in her closet back home...at Tony's? Did she take anything with her when she left on 'vacation'? LE said she spent it on items a 20 yr old would buy...what's that? You dont spend $30,000 on mascara and spaghetti.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 06:46 AM

you are funny.

the commonality was they are all 20 something individuals......and the person who had NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THEM:

Casey.

she was a parent who should have been living a different lifestyle, that of a mother, a responsible individual who was responsible for another human being.

and stepping into 'their' world every now and then to feel her age and be with her contemporaries every now and then....the problem was:

she couldnt have that life full time. not with a little child.

thats the difference. she didnt belong.

you got it backwards. IMO

best regards,
Pru

And she took the child just for spite; for surly if she did want that lifestyle even enjoying it as a fake without any real job or skill she still could have had it if she had left Caylee home. Casey wanted revenge and she wanted to hurt them bad.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 06:53 AM

:chicken: Do you all get that? It really isnt even that far fetched.

How did Casey think she was going to get around, after she gave Amy her car back, and was pretty much stranded over at Tone's Apt? Who, was driving her around? Is this why he resigned because he was in some way involved; in transporting her around during the time Caylee was missing? I really need to know WHY he resigned. It's the timing; it's too convenient. Too much for me; and then he leaves the state?

Is Casey afraid of him because he was LE? did he threaten her in some way? There is no TRO; nothing like that. So why did he Leave and resign that job with LE? And did LE ask him to resign because he was involved in some way, maybe with check cahsing or something illegal. Maybe he popped positive on a drug test. what do you all think the reason is for him resigning from his position?

You have Tony and Jesse mixed up. She was with Tony when Amy and Cindy came to get her. But I agree how did she get around.? She lied to her friends saying her father would buy her a new car. (for just running out of gas?) But what did she expect to do about faking Caylee to the Nanny...just say the Nanny agreed to keep her for as long as it takes?

The guys obviously werent that much into her. They needed a maid and a cook and lo and behold one fell into their laps. They had too much on their minds to be concerned with her business and enough sense to know it was not a good place for a two year old going on three.

Marianne

09-12-2008, 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=forensicpsy;12104083]Casey is not just a liar. She's a psychopath - lying is just one symptom.

I believe the Anthony's have lived with their daughter's problems for 22 years and did the best they could - under circumstances that no layman can understand. IMO Casey is the bad seed.[/QUOTE

I dont buy the bad seed theory. There are no bad seeds. But there is bad parenting. Most parents know how to deal with the obvious to be expected needs of a child but when a child has a different temperment or talents or sensiblity then the parents are at a loss. In this case Casey does not seem in any way nuaual but her parents dispalay very obvious flaws in comprehension, in responsibility authority, in understanding their roles and the science of mind as in morality.

Scientists have discovered that lying does strange things to the brain. If anyone wants to look that up it was a front page article in Scientific American not too many years ago.

Even Casey's friends who used to hang out together in high school told Casey to get some help from a therapist. The whole family needs it.

From the outside the GP's seem the most caring and responsible but in all such cases it is always the child who is a victim of such craziness who does not know how to set herself free who becomes the monster. Its not genes...it is timeing....its the biological time clock the desperation of surging life force.

A Freudian psychiatrist once told me that it is a child whose mother has wound the apron strings too tightly who will steal from the purse of his or her mother. A secure confident child with a sense of direction and future , sure of their own capabilities would never do what Casey does.

Dr. Phil needs to talk to the Anthonys and get them each into individual councelling....enforced by LE.