Caylee Anthony Evening Thread 09/11/08

[day2day]

I totally agree, and I am of the mind that I could care less if LE calls anyone a suspect or POI, officially. It makes no difference to me; we know what we see. Same with SP; we always knew he was THE Main Suspect, just as in other cases, it's clear when someone is the main suspect. Family HAS TO BE ruled out first. And I agree NO ONE in this Family has been "officially ruled out" in any way shape or form.
Not Yet.

Dots


Jessies Dad posted this message on his myspace page. This message speaks volumes.
Going to add a comment to my own blog: Why do you need a fundraiser and warchest of money for a child neglect and lying to law enforcement charge? Why do you need 7-hours a day with your lawyer unless you are preparing for a murder charge? They are building a web site for a defense fund and assembling a team of defense experts for a child endangerment charge?! What about all the other people out there that get charged everyday that cannot afford an attorney, are they going to do this for them? there are thousands of people every year that are victims of injustice who get no help!

This P.R. firm, web site, defense fund story is only throwing fuel on to the fire of outrage that is about to explode. Between Baez and this Todd Black LE won't need much to finish the job as they are doing them a favor in their actions. Innocent until proven guilty is one thing but arrogant and offensive is another!!!

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=431718606

JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Okay, so why do YOU think he was waiting for them to walk into the driveway? So he could offer them lemonade and cookies?lol.......

[bluwaters]

Hmmm, they quoted a statement, but they didn't quote the question.

:seeya:

IMO

there is a video you can watch
http://www.wesh.com/video/17452770/index.html
Commotion Erupts At Anthony Home
The coverage of the incident with Lee starts at 5:20 into the video.

[cutiepatootie61]

Couldn't a Zoo be considered potentially dangerous and violent?


Well I'll agree with that, once rode an elephant and had it sneeze snot and crackers all over me and the kids!

[forensicsgal]

Where's the camera??? How come it's not on??

[Chevalier]

The only one in the family not starting to lose it, is Casey....What a shame. She's the one that needs to crack and I just don't see that happening. IMO she seems more amused than upset by all the drama around her. :mad:
Good point. Casey's all coddled & cool. When will her parents smarten up and just throw her under the bus where she belongs?


NG2

Why have searches been called off? Does not believe it is because of flooding.
<snip>

I'm with Nancy. I never believed that's why the search was called off suddenly in the afternoon like that.



NG cracks me up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I have asked you 50 times what was going on in that house and now you tell me the Anthony's declined polygraphs!:cuss:

[bookie]

I would like to see a link where LE says the family is NOT involved. Care to share? jmo


I can't offer any links to police calling them suspects or POI's because they haven't, only Casey. They have repeatedly said George and Cindy were cooperating with the investigation if you'd like links to that.

[Joan Weiss]

Absolutely. Crossing the street is dangerous. Actually, just going outside could be dangerous...imo

[concernedmom]

Bugged is bugged, invasion of privacy either way.


Maybe he just had one of those "Listen UP" that you can buy at CVS. Or maybe the person he had inside had one. :D

[tiny paw-prints]

So now the whole family killed Caylee - that little girl that hasn't even officially been pronounced dead, but anyway, the whole danged family killed her?


I haven't yet seen any Real evidence that Casey actually left the Anthony house on June 15th--with Caylee. Have you?

The neighbor heard Casey's foul language on June 15th?

Cindy put both Casey and Caylee to bed and could hear them sleeping on June 15th?

George saw Casey and Caylee at 1:50pm on June 16?

[flipflop]

Dramapostaphobia :D


Geez, read CW's warning. Discussing other poster gets you auto banned. I really don't want this closed again.

[AMS]

NG - caller asks why GPs need a criminal defense attorney. TH said everyone is accused of the GPs covering up. NG says the have not been accused of anything. TH compares it to the Ramseys.

TH - not an admission of guilt to lawyer up. 2nd TH - the obviously believe their rights have been violated or they might be charged with something down the line.

[Heartland]

Good evening everyone!

Wow, miss a day on the board and you miss a lot. I haven't had time to read up and catch up but wanted to comment on the protesters.

I understand and respect that it's their constitutional right to protest but how in the world is this helping find Caylee? Isn't that what everyone should focus on? Their time could be much better spent searching.

Someone is going to get hurt and to put a child in harms way is beyond deplorable.

MOO

[spiritwolf46]

Maybe he just had one of those "Listen UP" that you can buy at CVS. Or maybe the person he had inside had one. :D

:lol:

:rose: WHERE IS CAYLEE????

[True2Blues]

There is a video of the newscast, which covers what happened in the Anthony drive way. Lee Anthony says he was waiting for one of them to step in front of the driveway. He does not say he was waiting for someone to make a claim, but that he was waiting for the chance to do what he did.

That was to the reporter, when the deputies confronted him he said something about people being in the driveway. They say they weren't, either way, he had no right to try and run into anyone.

LE needs to make it clear to the Anthonys once and for all that they do not own the sidewalk, and they are not above the law.

http://www.wesh.com/video/17452770/index.html

[bookie]

What if he were just listening though? What if he didn't record anything?


I think it's the same principle. IMO he could face criminal charges and a civil suit either way.

[Joan Weiss]

When you intentionally walk in front of a moving car it does.She didn't do that. :read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

[Rebel Rouzer]

Good point. Casey's all coddled & cool. When will her parents smarten up and just throw her under the bus where she belongs?



I'm with Nancy. I never believed that's why the search was called off suddenly in the afternoon like that.



NG cracks me up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I have asked you 50 times what was going on in that house and now you tell me the Anthony's declined polygraphs!:cuss:

The search was suspended until today as fa as i know. Today was when the completely called it quits. As of Sunday it was just suspended and there were still certain searches going on. :read:

[Shellberry]

Oh wow; yes that's it tonight, no arrest, the charges she was arrested on were suspicion, now she is formally charged by the DA. Facing a total of 50 years on all charges per CNN. All searches called off; on that I do not know why but I wonder if they have found something..Or realize they never will.
Why didnt Padilla spill this weeks ago about the Lie Detector business? I dont know if I can trust what he says....Not sure on that guy. I think he is only hogging the limelight; getting his more than 15 minutes of "fame" he disturbs me !! :cuss:
thank you Jenny for responding.
Im trying so bad to catch up in here tonight, seems like a whirlwind in here.

I really havent had a chace to read.
but Im skimming-what is it about the house being bugged?
is it suspected, confirmed?
did I read a link yesterday about the house being bugged or something.
man I dont even know anymore...

You can 'bug' someone in FL as long as you dont try to use it against them in court.
it isnt illegal, it just wont hold up in court without the other parties consent.





imo/jmo/etc

[hamebone]

When you intentionally walk in front of a moving car it does.

where did you read that?

You can easily dismiss Lee's statement and say they are printed out of context....then you go and say this about someone...you dont even know.....you really think she tried to get hurt or get her child hurt by walking in front of a car?

[msjoni]

Lee said that was what he had been waiting for. "Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

I liked Lee at first, I thought he was the most sane one..but no more...maybe he and Casey can share a cell.:mad:

[bookie]

Okay, so why do YOU think he was waiting for them to walk into the driveway? So he could offer them lemonade and cookies?



Without knowing what he was asked we have no way of knowing what he meant or even really said. It could have been just what has been specualted.....that he was waiting for it because he knew it was going to happen.....like when the 5th car trying to squeeze between the RR crossing arms gets hit. People say "I was waiting for that to happen" because they knew it was inevitable.

[OneUp]

then how come none of them baked her a cake when she was in the slammer??? HMMMMM, I doubt she has 1400 friends!!!I doubt that too...more like 1400 lookie loos...I'd be one if I thought anything positive could come of it.
I'm sure some are very young people whose first knowledge of this case is reading whatever malarky is on her page, a good portion are likely Christians who want to help and are praying for her, and then there is "us"...the lookie loos and crime followers.:D
JMO.

[day2day]

I can't offer any links to police calling them suspects or POI's because they haven't, only Casey. They have repeatedly said George and Cindy were cooperating with the investigation if you'd like links to that.

Thats ok bookie. Are we sure that cooperating means they are innocent? I am still a little leary of their story. I have read and re-read the 400 page document drop and lots of their statements and their story seems to change ---alot?! In my heart I don't want them to be involved but I just can't cross them off my list. (if that makes sense) :(

Caylee:rose:

[concernedmom]

I doubt that too...more like 1400 lookie loos...I'd be one if I thought anything positive could come of it.
I'm sure some are very young people whose first knowledge of this case is reading whatever malarky is on her page, a good portion are likely Christians who want to help and are praying for her, and then there is "us"...the lookie loos and crime followers.:D
JMO.


Im :chicken: to join. People dont seem to fare to well being her friend.

[st777jo]

Doubtful since the majority of their signs and mugs are pointed towards the CAMERAS and away from the very home they're pretending to protest.

Maybe its easier for the Anthony's to see the protesters on their tv than to stand for hours looking out a window.

[mattncats]

I'm not sure what of anything I believe that comes out of that man's mouth.

I think He's used up his 15. min of fame. Sent home with his tail tucked under. Kinda sad acting.

[luvinlife]

Why is it that sometimes I can watch the videos from wesh and sometimes I can't grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

My only comment about the protestors is that isn't the guy with the fake headstone the same guy that brought the doll. He is twisted I have to say. moo

[Motomom]

No, not really, because Lee didn't "put himself out there" at all, he was already out and was coming home, pulling into his own family's driveway.

Maybe the pretend protesters should get OUT of the driveway - and leave their babies at home.



Yes, the protester should not have been in the driveway, however.. it could have been anyone in the driveway. Not neccesarily a protester. NOBODY should be pulling into their driveway like that, in a neighborhood like that, when there are people out and children out. It's very easy to accidently not see someone, more so when you can see them. What if he lost control of that car at that moment? I remember being much younger and taking my brothers mustang out down to the shore, some kids were being punks on the way home and wanted to loligag in the road, when I went to turn I purposefully used the power that those cars have. I ALMOST hit one of them. I was stupid and that is how Lee was in this incident. Your right, she shouldn't have been there, BUT she wasnt' threatening his life in anyway and whether on purpose or accident, he COULD have hurt or killed her and her child.

[bluwaters]

I can't offer any links to police calling them suspects or POI's because they haven't, only Casey. They have repeatedly said George and Cindy were cooperating with the investigation if you'd like links to that.
The last time I heard Nieves give a press conference, he said that the Anthony's were communicating. He was very careful with his words. He did not say cooperating. That was the presser when he stated several times that LE is looking for Caylee Marie Anthony, as a missing person. He did not say alive or deceased - just missing,

[day2day]

Im :chicken: to join. People dont seem to fare to well being her friend.

BINGO!! I can see her doing research on alllll of her new found friends..ya never know who she might blame next. And for Gods sake if you DO become her friend..hide all your financial info! jmo

[Heartland]

Why is it that sometimes I can watch the videos from wesh and sometimes I can't grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

My only comment about the protestors is that isn't the guy with the fake headstone the same guy that brought the doll. He is twisted I have to say. moo

Scary twisted!

[True2Blues]

So you think Lee was driving down the sidewalk!?!?

Not so much!

I guess you didn't notice that the sidewalk crosses the driveway. Sorry, I didn't know I needed to explain that.

[Cury-us Coyote]

It's in the linked article earlier in the thread. A quote from Lee Anthony saying he waited for someone to cross the driveway so he could that.

Try reading before you jump on people.

Is there a video to see and hear what occurred? TIA

[shelbar53]

when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?

[~jomomma~]

ok

6/25 (wed.)Casey talks to Jesse, tells him she's free that weekend

6/27 (fri.) Casey drops off car--Tony picks her up

did Casey and Jesse actually go to the beach that weekend?

when was tony out of town?

if she had no phone activity around the 28-29 what was she really doing that weekend? was she with jesse?


it wasn't until the week of July 8 that Casey went on shopping spree with Amy's checkbook. the AT&T was electronic.

so......that $574 to AT&T can't be a purchase around June 28 (when she wasn't using her phone for 24 hrs)

also...in the PDF doc of the affidavit, it states that Amy said she retrieved her checkbook from the ex-boyfriend of the suspect???

[cassidy]

Doubtful since the majority of their signs and mugs are pointed towards the CAMERAS and away from the very home they're pretending to protest.
Maybe they think the family is inside watching the live cameras? :shrug:

[luvinlife]

Glad to see the boards are open!
I do not get him sometimes. Why would Lee tell any of Padillas people such a thing. One thing for sure LE/FBI knows if such a thing happened during the few days LP was there. Do I believe if asked to take a LD test would they refuse? Absolutely. However that does not mean it actually happened or that he was privy to it. I see a Grand Jury in Lenny`s future.

I did email him with the fly question in hopes NG would ask Kobie. I am just not knowing if I believe him or not any more with all his breaking news.



I know, he doesn't make any sense why would they agree just to turn around and say no, did this happen in a matter of minutes, that is how it sounded to me. Too weird.

And after all this time to say this about the lie detector, why?

LP and crew have been talking but what is with the drip, drip, drip of info. They are worse than LE. I don't get it.

[bookie]

There is a video of the newscast, which covers what happened in the Anthony drive way. Lee Anthony says he was waiting for one of them to step in front of the driveway. He does not say he was waiting for someone to make a claim, but that he was waiting for the chance to do what he did.

That was to the reporter, when the deputies confronted him he said something about people being in the driveway. They say they weren't, either way, he had no right to try and run into anyone.

LE needs to make it clear to the Anthonys once and for all that they do not own the sidewalk, and they are not above the law.

http://www.wesh.com/video/17452770/index.html


I just watched it and he DID NOT say he was waiting for a chance to do what he did. Why keep adding your words to what he really said? :rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

Is there a video to see and hear what occurred? TIA

There is on WESH. It's the whole news cast but you can skip forward a few minutes and see the reports.

[Unperson1984]

I always had the impression he was inserting himself into this; one of those who is too eager to help LE; just too eager for my comfort level. Something not right; and have never been able to quite pin that feeling down, except that he freaks me out; always has. If I were his "fiance" I'd run; I'd run so fast. I'd never let them near another child that is certain. No way; not ever. Too violent and dysfunctional to me; I'm a firm believer in some people just shouldnt breed. I dont have any nice way to put that either. Am not even going to try to say that nicely. Some people are not cut out for parenting. I wouldnt want to see another child ruined by this type of dysfunction. :cuss:

And just who will decide who can or cannot breed...you?

[Tiger]

Yes, the protester should not have been in the driveway, however.. it could have been anyone in the driveway. Not neccesarily a protester. NOBODY should be pulling into their driveway like that, in a neighborhood like that, when there are people out and children out. It's very easy to accidently not see someone, more so when you can see them. What if he lost control of that car at that moment? I remember being much younger and taking my brothers mustang out down to the shore, some kids were being punks on the way home and wanted to loligag in the road, when I went to turn I purposefully used the power that those cars have. I ALMOST hit one of them. I was stupid and that is how Lee was in this incident. Your right, she shouldn't have been there, BUT she wasnt' threatening his life in anyway and whether on purpose or accident, he COULD have hurt or killed her and her child.

Lee is such a coward! It also shows what he thinks of small children and how he does not care if he hurts them. How sad!

[baywench]

right now casey is waiting charges on fraud theft etc and will face some jail time { i doubt she will have to serve 50 years} everyone wants her to tell them what she did with caylee and then she will face life in prison...what incentive does she have to tell the truth {other than being the right thing to do}. she can go to prison for several years on the theft charges and come out and have access to some of the blood money.

I agree completely. She has never had any incentive. She cannot be guilted into talking, nor shamed into talking. She does not feel emotion imo. I don't think there is anything that would make her talk...I'm not even sure threat of the death penalty would (if it were to come to that). I have decided to keep myself sane I must stop trying to apply logic and empathy to a person that has none. I hope the blood money will be hard for her to get ahold of. People's attention is short....in a few years there are those of us that would still probably want to know where Caylee is and what happened...but how would anyone ever know if she was telling the truth? jmo

[Heartland]

Watching NG. Anyone have info on Casey being re-arrested vs turning herself in?

[OneUp]

Jessies Dad posted this message on his myspace page. This message speaks volumes.


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=431718606

JMOTY for the quote, now that I know there is an update I'm going to go read it. I do admire Rev. Grund. He seems to be a good man who is much better at maintaining Godly ways than I manage to be.
I do feel in better company now knowing that even someone who has done such a fine job of following God has some os the same concerns as I do. I was beating myself up a bit today for failing to find more compassion within myself in light of the videos that were sold and the recent violent outburts. Maybe Rev. Grund has some words to help me keep Gods intents in my heart.
JMO.

[True2Blues]

I just watched it and he DID NOT say he was waiting for a chance to do what he did. Why keep adding your words to what he really said? :rolleyes:


I'm happy for you to see and hear what you want to. :seeya:

[luvinlife]

ok

6/25 (wed.)Casey talks to Jesse, tells him she's free that weekend

6/27 (fri.) Casey drops off car--Tony picks her up

did Casey and Jesse actually go to the beach that weekend?

when was tony out of town?

if she had no phone activity around the 28-29 what was she really doing that weekend? was she with jesse?


it wasn't until the week of July 8 that Casey went on shopping spree with Amy's checkbook. the AT&T was an electronic transfer.

so......that $574 to AT&T can't be a purchase around June 28 (when she wasn't using her phone for 24 hrs)

also...in the PDF doc of the affidavit, it states that Amy sais she retrieved her checkbook from the ex-boyfriend of the suspect???


Wasn't Jesse's stmt missing from the doc drop?

It has been awhile since i read them, LE is probably already looked into this, and LP is just catching up.lol

[~jomomma~]

So FBI asked for them to take the Lie Dect Test, and Lee came back out saying no we wont do that. What was he in charge that early on?
K I find him leading Casey around by the hand disturbing; it bothers me.

28th to the 29th no calls she makes 25 to 50 calls a day per padilla. So what happened mid day the 28th thru the 29th. Was it just that the phone was cut off; turned off by the phone co or turned off by Casey?

the 28th, what day did Amy return from Puerto Rico you guys? Can you help me out with that date? The dates are a little hard for me to keep up with. TIA if anyone knows

I couldnt believe that a caller called in about being under the pool; that was something I touched on a few weeks ago; that depression near the edge of the pool really bothered me; like maybe someone tried to dig near the edge of that pool and slipped her under it. It's a good theory to check their water bill to see if they filled that pool at anytime during the month of June or July. :(


according to the timeline, Amy was gone July 8-15

??

[True2Blues]

Lee was 'waiting for' someone to be in his way so he could do what he did today?

Lee is now premeditating his law breaking. And he admits it on camera.

I said before that nothing was shocking with this family.

I take that back.

Shocking indeed.

There's video on WESH, but it's up to your own individual interpretation. ;)

[bookie]

The last time I heard Nieves give a press conference, he said that the Anthony's were communicating. He was very careful with his words. He did not say cooperating. That was the presser when he stated several times that LE is looking for Caylee Marie Anthony, as a missing person. He did not say alive or deceased - just missing,




Late Friday afternoon, a briefing was held at the Orange County Sheriff's Office, but detectives revealed little new information, except to disclose where the evidence collected came from.

"I believe it was from outside the house, somewhere in the back, not exactly sure where," Padilla said, adding that George and Cindy Anthony were cooperating with the investigation.

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/CayleeAnthony1/tabid/700/Default.aspx



Just one of many quotes that George and Cindy were cooperating with the investigation.

[spiritwolf46]

Maybe they think the family is inside watching the live cameras? :shrug:

I have not seen all the protesters looking for the camera. The only time I have seen them in the camera is when they are interviewed. :shrug:

[cassidy]

Perhaps someone can clear this up for me. where I live the area between the sidewalk and the street belongs to the city. We, as the homeowners, are expected to maintain it (ie, cut the grass). Is it different in various parts of the country? Why can't someone clarify this both to the Anthony's and the protesters?

[hamebone]

If you go to a baseball game, you can expect to get hit by a ball. Assumption of Risk.

But if you stand in front of the pitcher and home plate its a given.

And thats what you said (using your own analogy)..it was her intention to get ran over...

double-minded...

[tiny paw-prints]

If you go to a baseball game, you can expect to get hit by a ball. Assumption of Risk.


If you betray your daughter with constant threats in obtaining sole custody of your granddaughter while constantly treatening to kick your daughter (mother of your granddaughter) to the curb--you can expect to get hit with some consequences. Assumption of Risk. Betrayal.

[Heartland]

Anyone getting the live WebCam? Mine is out.

[Chevalier]

LOL, NG is pretty broken up over Lil' Lucy's mosquito bite.

[Chevalier]

Anyone getting the live WebCam? Mine is out.


I've got a snow storm.

[day2day]

TY for the quote, now that I know there is an update I'm going to go read it. I do admire Rev. Grund. He seems to be a good man who is much better at maintaining Godly ways than I manage to be.
I do feel in better company now knowing that even someone who has done such a fine job of following God has some os the same concerns as I do. I was beating myself up a bit today for failing to find more compassion within myself in light of the videos that were sold and the recent violent outburts. Maybe Rev. Grund has some words to help me keep Gods intents in my heart.
JMO.


YVW OneUp--i visit his myspace page alot. He seems like a very level headed person. Maybe the only level headed person in the whole bunch. I cried when he talks about Caylee and his wife playing..:(..
His words lift me up ..and remind me that we are all human.
:(

[bookie]

Thats ok bookie. Are we sure that cooperating means they are innocent? I am still a little leary of their story. I have read and re-read the 400 page document drop and lots of their statements and their story seems to change ---alot?! In my heart I don't want them to be involved but I just can't cross them off my list. (if that makes sense) :(

Caylee:rose:



They have been cooperating with police and nothing indicates the police are investigating them. Everything the police are looking at ties to Casey....her actions, her phone calls, where she was in those days.

[cassidy]

I have not seen all the protesters looking for the camera. The only time I have seen them in the camera is when they are interviewed. :shrug:

I don't know. Anytime there are protests or strikes around my area, the people are facing the street so the passer-by's can see what it's all about? Maybe that's what they are doing?

[Chevalier]

Perhaps someone can clear this up for me. where I live the area between the sidewalk and the street belongs to the city. We, as the homeowners, are expected to maintain it (ie, cut the grass). Is it different in various parts of the country? Why can't someone clarify this both to the Anthony's and the protesters?

I think it's reasonable to believe that it's been explained to them plenty of times. IMO, they make up their own rules.

[spiritwolf46]

I was always taught that two wrongs don't make a right.
:read:


Perhaps Lee should have been taught that as well?

[st777jo]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Its working for me, hope its better.

[Joan Weiss]

Lee is such a coward! It also shows what he thinks of small children and how he does not care if he hurts them. How sad!Yes, exactly. Most decent people would be upset at the very thought that they might have hurt someone, let alone a baby. Not bothering Lee at all. imo

[Boxer]

Perhaps someone can clear this up for me. where I live the area between the sidewalk and the street belongs to the city. We, as the homeowners, are expected to maintain it (ie, cut the grass). Is it different in various parts of the country? Why can't someone clarify this both to the Anthony's and the protesters?

I live in a very small neighborhood, the very first subdivision of my tiny town..no sidewalks at all, but there is still an easment into my front yard for utilities. And between my house and the neighbor to my north there is also another easment for utilities. I maintain it all but for the second year in a row they will pull my chain link and dig a huge rut in the side yard and across the front yard across my back drive and across my front drive. Last year new water line...this year, redo the backfill of the new waterline. Huge mess and new sod to have to water each time. The watering is on my dime cuz they don't care if the grass lives. They start Monday.

[day2day]

Actually it apparently needs to be explained to the pretend protester who is out there blathering fake tears claiming that Lee was at fault.

She apparently isn't aware that Lee can't auto-pilot OVER the sidewalk portion of the driveway in order to park up next to the garage, so she needs to get her keister away from that sidewalk portion of the driveway.

I am emailing LE and thanking them for removing the gun from that property.
So far this week:
George assaults elderly woman.
Lee takes a protestors sign and tosses it. And the doggy dish.
Now Lee takes aim with his car at a lady and her child.

Do you see a pattern here? jmo

[~jomomma~]

that's why you can't plant a tree, etc. in that 'strip' between the sidewalk and street...it is city/county property

[spiritwolf46]

I don't know. Anytime there are protests or strikes around my area, the people are facing the street so the passer-by's can see what it's all about? Maybe that's what they are doing?


Could very well be, cassidy. But I am sure that they do not just face the camera for their 15 minutes as some would want us to believe. ;)

:rose: For little CAYLEE! There are people out there trying to help you, baby. WE love you!

[barskin&co.]

Watching NG. Anyone have info on Casey being re-arrested vs turning herself in?


If I have been hearing correctly, she may be re-arrested or she may turn herself in. I hope that clears things up.

[Tiger]

Actually it apparently needs to be explained to the pretend protester who is out there blathering fake tears claiming that Lee was at fault.

She apparently isn't aware that Lee can't auto-pilot OVER the sidewalk portion of the driveway in order to park up next to the garage, so she needs to get her keister away from that sidewalk portion of the driveway.

I think if Lee cannot drive into a drive without almost hitting a woman and child he probably doesn't need to be having a drivers license. Call me crazy but that is how I feel:shrug:

[Chevalier]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Its working for me, hope its better.
Yep, mine is now too. House lit up like a Christmas tree.

[bookie]

Lee was 'waiting for' someone to be in his way so he could do what he did today?

Lee is now premeditating his law breaking. And he admits it on camera.

I said before that nothing was shocking with this family.

I take that back.

Shocking indeed.



Lee did not say he was waiting for someone to be in his way so he could do what he did. He said he was waiting for someone to do that, be somewhere they shouldn't. Words are being added to what he actually said.

[st777jo]

I live in a very small neighborhood, the very first subdivision of my tiny town..no sidewalks at all, but there is still an easment into my front yard for utilities. And between my house and the neighbor to my north there is also another easment for utilities. I maintain it all but for the second year in a row they will pull my chain link and dig a huge rut in the side yard and across the front yard across my back drive and across my front drive. Last year new water line...this year, redo the backfill of the new waterline. Huge mess and new sod to have to water each time. The watering is on my dime cuz they don't care if the grass lives. They start Monday.

Same here, Boxer, I think they can come 4 ft. onto my property.

[cassidy]

Actually it apparently needs to be explained to the pretend protester who is out there blathering fake tears claiming that Lee was at fault.

She apparently isn't aware that Lee can't auto-pilot OVER the sidewalk portion of the driveway in order to park up next to the garage, so she needs to get her keister away from that sidewalk portion of the driveway.

It's my understanding that the pedestrian has the right of way on the sidewalk. When I am leaving my house in the AM I have to stop at the end of my driveway and look both way for the kids going to school walking on the sidewalk. I can't just plow through them even if they stop right there to chat for a few minutes. :shrug:

[concernedmom]

So now Cindy betrayed Casey by telling her that she was going to file for custody of Caylee?

Holy SMOKES!

The problem is she probably made threats all the time and didnt follow through on any of them.
If Cindy would have filed for custody and kicked Caseys butt out along time ago Caylee may not be missing today.

[lonetraveler]

Im not sure Im buying the reason for ALL searches being called off. I am so hoping Caylee has been found and a surprise murder charge is about to hit.


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I do know why Tim Miller wasn't searching for Caylee. He was in Aruba meeting with ALE and requesting permission to search near a dam/pond for Natalie Holloway. I also heard tonight that he was on the way back to Texas. Maybe the search will resume for Caylee.

[st777jo]

It's my understanding that the pedestrian has the right of way on the sidewalk. When I am leaving my house in the AM I have to stop at the end of my driveway and look both way for the kids going to school walking on the sidewalk. I can't just plow through them even if they stop right there to chat for a few minutes. :shrug:

According to my family in Florida, pedestrians have all the rights, no matter what.

[Heartland]

If I have been hearing correctly, she may be re-arrested or she may turn herself in. I hope that clears things up.

Thanks Barskin!

[kakax]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Its working for me, hope its better.



Garage going up or down...I can't tell.

[bookie]

If I have been hearing correctly, she may be re-arrested or she may turn herself in. I hope that clears things up.



What was filed today is from the charges she was arrested on last week. She is not going to be arrested on those charges again, she's already out on bond on those charges. The reporter said he heard more charges may be coming later.

[flipflop]

I am emailing LE and thanking them for removing the gun from that property.
So far this week:
George assaults elderly woman.
Lee takes a protestors sign and tosses it. And the doggy dish.
Now Lee takes aim with his car at a lady and her child.

Do you see a pattern here? jmo

You live what you learn. You grow up with anger, you learn aggression.

[barskin&co.]

The problem is she probably made threats all the time and didnt follow through on any of them.
If Cindy would have filed for custody and kicked Caseys butt out along time ago she may not be missing today.

Oh, absolutely. Caylee would have been alive today.

[day2day]

Avery big patern :read:


Scares the heck out of me. :read:

[lonetraveler]

I don't even know what to think about this. I mean.. why would she suddenly not have her phone on? I may just be braindead.. can anyone throw a theory or two out there? I don't have one... for a change lol...

Prayers for Caylee...

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Could this be when Casey stated to Lee during the Jail visit that she had lost the sim card for her phone, that it must have fallen out of her pocketbook or something like that as I recall???

[day2day]

I see the pattern. So far, their (George & Lee) violent outbreaks have been focused on women.

I'm glad the gun was confiscated but obviously they don't need guns for their violence against women.

IMO.

Scares me. I have never seen them EVER approach a male. It makes you wonder what goes on in their home. JMO...

[tiny paw-prints]

according to the timeline, Amy was gone July 8-15

??

Is it true that Amy's personal checkbook was inside her car when she let Casey borrow the car July 8-15th?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Why would Baez insist on notification prior to arrest if she was not going to be rearrested? I'm not understanding how they are doing this with the info given. He could have avoided th first circus and he can do the same with this one. If she isn't going to be rearrested then what is Baez talking about?

[OneUp]

Oh NO one of those? Those dolls FREAK ME OUT!! Of course, now I can just see it omg. I know some love those things but OMG!
My G Aunt had one that is the size of a 4yr old child. It is so freaky; and old and expensive but so freaky that it is covered up in the garage in our family home; out of state and it is turned backwards so no one can see it's face. It is one of "THOSE" dolls. YIKES! So that is why that doll catalog was in the trash? My GM had a lovely tiny doll collection they were only 3 to 4 inches high; a family member stole it though and it was lost forever. There were like 50 of them. The large dolls totally give me the freaks. I dont like their eyes!
Is that really why a protestor brought the doll do you think? I thought it was so weird, and wondered, well who would think of that and why use it in the first place. Esp with its arms out like that, well I wish I had not seen it actually.

I had horrible nightmares still again this morning when I made myself go back to sleep. I dont know about all of you; but Im trying hard to sleep and am not "dwelling" on this persay...but my sub-conscience is really having a field day trying to digest what this family is and is not doing. It's bothering me that much. To know that Caylee is just gone. They smelled her dead body. They know they did. I think George saw her, found her, and got rid of the evidence. They all wiped her butt like they always have, am sorry I dont have a nicer way to say that; but it's exactly what they are doing, enabling at it's very worst. Maybe they've always known that she had No mothering instinct. I would like to know what lee meant "was this like before" I would like to know if Casey has a Juvinile record, or a record of seduction or inappropriate relationships with men from an early age. Like Melanie McGuire did. That type of pathology. I'll bet, that she does.

Dots.Jenny, I'm sorry you are having nightmares, me too. I just sent a letter to Rev. Grund because his words have helped me with this sorrow I have for Caylee and I wanted him to know that too. He is so close to this, Caylee was his child too for much of her short life ( when everyone thought she was Jesses and even after), but he still finds some peace with Gods help.
Below is the link to his MySpace. I thought it might help you have some peace too...I keep reminding myself to trust in God and know He will set thigs right in the end.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85212505&MyToken=ffe60819-9639-4e82-b0ba-391c2b939b30

[Chevalier]

Big spot lights turned off the Anthony house. Now there's a car parked on the road in front of the driveway. Is that Georges car?

[Acorn]

If Cindy witnessed the baby being placed in harm's way, she is bound by law as an R.N. to report this to DCF.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Put in harm's way by who is the question. The driver has the responsibility to make sure the way is clear.

I think it will backfire on Cindy and Lee will be taking the responsibility for this episode.

She'd be better off helping DCF make a case against her own daughter for putting Caylee in harm's way.

imo

[baywench]

If Cindy witnessed the baby being placed in harm's way, she is bound by law as an R.N. to report this to DCF.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I see what you're saying but imo as a nurse, mother, or grandmother Cindy hasn't done what she should have done, let alone legally should do. jmo

[Heartland]

I have to say it again when he was first interviewed I wrote on here right away how much he freaked me out; how inappropriate his body language and smiling was; how inappropriate his language was; about Caylee, he was defending Casey even then; saying all this BS that she was a beautiful Mom and Caylee was so smart because Casey was such a great woman etc etc. I blew up and came here right then, first interview and blasted him because the smiling and laughter was too freaky for me. ABsoLutely Too Freaky for me. And, Exactly like Caseys behavior. It was then, right then that I started to look to who raised them both. And WTH happened. And then Cindy started to make her "cameo appearances" and the rest was history. :cuss:

This whole case is so disturbing. I really question is poor Caylee will ever be found. :confused:

[Takotna]

So FBI asked for them to take the Lie Dect Test, and Lee came back out saying no we wont do that. What was he in charge that early on?
K I find him leading Casey around by the hand disturbing; it bothers me.

28th to the 29th no calls she makes 25 to 50 calls a day per padilla. So what happened mid day the 28th thru the 29th. Was it just that the phone was cut off; turned off by the phone co or turned off by Casey?

the 28th, what day did Amy return from Puerto Rico you guys? Can you help me out with that date? The dates are a little hard for me to keep up with. TIA if anyone knows

I couldnt believe that a caller called in about being under the pool; that was something I touched on a few weeks ago; that depression near the edge of the pool really bothered me; like maybe someone tried to dig near the edge of that pool and slipped her under it. It's a good theory to check their water bill to see if they filled that pool at anytime during the month of June or July. :(

Hi Dots - Amy came home on July 15th - Casey picked her up at the airport. I cannot believe the nerve of Casey - wiping out Amy's bank account and picking her up! Amazing.:)


AllMO

[day2day]

Yeah, the pretend protesters need to create lives of their own, which based on what they've shown, could occupy a LOT of their time!

And what would you have the Anthony's do? Sit at home on their puters eatin bonbons while volunteers search for THEIR grandchild?
I'm just askin...?

jmo

[spiritwolf46]

I see the pattern. So far, their (George & Lee) violent outbreaks have been focused on women.

I'm glad the gun was confiscated but obviously they don't need guns for their violence against women.

IMO.

Pretty scary stuff, alright. Seems to me that they are all entitled to do whatever they want, or so they think, anyway.

[day2day]

Is it true that Amy's personal checkbook was inside her car when she let Casey borrow the car July 8-15th?

IIRC it was in her glove compartment.

[Joan Weiss]

I think if Lee cannot drive into a drive without almost hitting a woman and child he probably doesn't need to be having a drivers license. Call me crazy but that is how I feel:shrug:You are correct. If people are walking across a driveway on a public sidewalk, anyone entering a driveway does not have a right to run over them.

Simple. :shrug:

[Acorn]

Scares me. I have never seen them EVER approach a male. It makes you wonder what goes on in their home. JMO...

Oh, that wee tiny frail guy who was on the grass strip with his camera, chairs and umbrella, that's who George confronted.

[concernedmom]

Big spot lights turned off the Anthony house. Now there's a car parked on the road in front of the driveway. Is that Georges car?

I just saw a man in the yard for a minute.Then screen went white.

[tiny paw-prints]

I was always taught that two wrongs don't make a right.
:read:

I was always taught that you cannot steal your grand-children by betraying your own children in the process.

[~jomomma~]

Is it true that Amy's personal checkbook was inside her car when she let Casey borrow the car July 8-15th?

well, i don't know for sure but that is what we've heard? i'm too tired right now to go searching for it...LOL!

i posted this a little bit ago in a post:

also...in the PDF doc of the affidavit, it states that Amy said she retrieved her checkbook from the ex-boyfriend of the suspect???

so, did Tony have Amy's checkbook then? or Casey left it at Tony's?

[bookie]

Where Lee thinks the protesters should be or not be is of no consequence.

No one was on the Anthony property. Period.

You don't know that. There is no video of what actually happened, only a hysterical woman claiming he clipped her daughter, the daughter saying no he didn't and Lee saying they weren't on the public strip but IN the driveway itself.

There was NO arrest made. Why do you think that is? I think it's because the woman blew what actually happened out of proportion.

[day2day]

Oh, that wee tiny frail guy who was on the grass strip with his camera, chairs and umbrella, that's who George confronted.

You are right..Thank you -i stand corrected. Tossed the flag-how could i forget :(

[shelbar53]

well, i don't know for sure but that is what we've heard? i'm too tired right now to go searching for it...LOL!

i posted this a little bit ago in a post:

also...in the PDF doc of the affidavit, it states that Amy said she retrieved her checkbook from the ex-boyfriend of the suspect???

so, did Tony have Amy's checkbook then? or Casey left it at Tony's?

amy left it in the glove compartment and then it was found in caseys stuff at tonys house

[st777jo]

Yeah, the pretend protesters need to create lives of their own, which based on what they've shown, could occupy a LOT of their time!

The protesters have a legal right to be there. And since Casey lived in the Anthony's home, they had a legal right to get in her business too. And didn't. IMO

[barskin&co.]

well, i don't know for sure but that is what we've heard? i'm too tired right now to go searching for it...LOL!

i posted this a little bit ago in a post:

also...in the PDF doc of the affidavit, it states that Amy said she retrieved her checkbook from the ex-boyfriend of the suspect???

so, did Tony have Amy's checkbook then? or Casey left it at Tony's?

Yes, I believe Casey left the checkbook at Tony's. It probably got lost in the shuffle after Cindy came to take her away.

[Chevalier]

I just saw a man in the yard for a minute.Then screen went white.

Yeah, it was real dark but I think I made out a light on in the garage and George in the garage side side yard, then walking across the driveway. That's when the media's lights started popping back on again.

[~jomomma~]

I think thats correct she left it there by mistake:read:


God works in strange ways

Casey's eye's probably bugged out when she saw that checkbook and just couldn't help her sorry self.

had that not happened, she'd still be free as a bird.

:read:

[Takotna]

Perhaps someone can clear this up for me. where I live the area between the sidewalk and the street belongs to the city. We, as the homeowners, are expected to maintain it (ie, cut the grass). Is it different in various parts of the country? Why can't someone clarify this both to the Anthony's and the protesters?

It's the same where I live. IMO even if someone clarified this to the Anthonys, they wouldn't listen. They are going to believe what they want to regardless if it has any basis in fact.

AllMO:)

[bluwaters]

If Cindy witnessed the baby being placed in harm's way, she is bound by law as an R.N. to report this to DCF.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
She certainly is and it is her son who endangered the baby.

[shelbar53]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?

[kakax]

Yeah, it was real dark but I think I made out a light on in the garage and George in the garage side side yard, then walking across the driveway. That's when the media's lights started popping back on again.

I wonder what that black thing is in Casey's window. I saw it last night but can't make it out.

[~jomomma~]

amy left it in the glove compartment and then it was found in caseys stuff at tonys house


ahhh...thanks!

[anyonesguess]

<snip>[QUOTE=jennyanydots;
That strip is not their personal property, so GA is wrong about thinking it is. Call and ask. We found out early on that strip belongs to the city. And you are expected to mow it maintain it etc, and So I believe the Protesters should be able to stand there all they want. Whether they like it or not. Dats my 2 c!! :D[/QUOTE]

Well, it appears the won't have to mow that strip for awhile. There is no grass left on it.

[bookie]

So somehow in your mind, you've now decided that Casey is the victim here?

Unbelievable!

I'm really glad LE doesn't agree with that, nor DCFS.


Wait a sec. Didn't we just hear that Cindy went for counseling and the couselor told her to sue for custody? And now it's being twisted into Cindy betraying Casey?

[st777jo]

Continue to have hope, faith, and pray that Caylee is still alive - just as all Grandparents should do for their Grandchild.

While calling people names, and telling them to get off their a$$es and look for Caylee.

[kakax]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?

The prosecutor asked her this exact question, IIRC. Cindy's answer was that sometimes they communicated by text message or on myspace. I can't wait until we get phone records to pour over. I guess we won't get that until she is charged or there is a trial.

[Chevalier]

I wonder what that black thing is in Casey's window. I saw it last night but can't make it out.

I didn't know we'd established which window is Casey's. Did the BH let us in on that little nugget of info?

[day2day]

Continue to have hope, faith, and pray that Caylee is still alive - just as all Grandparents should do for their Grandchild.

Smiles...I suppose you are right DG. And I do pray for the Anthony's nightly. I don't wish this nightmare on anyone.

Time for me to hit the bed...sadly i have to work in the field tomorrow.
Be good and play nice!

Caylee:rose:

[Motomom]

Scares me. I have never seen them EVER approach a male. It makes you wonder what goes on in their home. JMO...

George did push a male before he pushed the old lady (no offense to old ladies, I love them).

The protesters today were really upset after the one was almost hit. It's a shame all the way around. I wish it was on camara so the LE could see it and he could be punished legally for it, even if just a ticket. I understand the Anthonys are frustrasted, among other things right now, but they are making it worse and worse for themselves. Stay inside, don't confront the protesters, give the protesters nothing to protest and maybe they will leave.

[anyonesguess]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?


I am not sure, but I bet it was a lot of message leaving imo and not direct contact.

I know Cindy has already said there was a call on her bill that did not show up on the bill that LE has, and from the pings. :confused:

[bluwaters]

I don't know. Anytime there are protests or strikes around my area, the people are facing the street so the passer-by's can see what it's all about? Maybe that's what they are doing?
well, if I were one of the protesters, which I would not be, but, if I were, there's no way I'd turn my backside to the camera!
just sayin...:biggrin:

[shelbar53]

I pray that the protesters or the anthonys dont do anything stupid again...im so sick of reading about it...this topic of lee almost hitting someone is being beaten to death and is so boring....why doesnt someone start a protester thread and take the conversation there!!!

[anyonesguess]

You are correct. If people are walking across a driveway on a public sidewalk, anyone entering a driveway does not have a right to run over them.

Simple. :shrug:

I am just now reading, and haven't seen or heard about this, but was the person just walking on the sidewalk in the driveway portion of the walk, and he almost hit them?

I thought IF WALKING that pedestrians had the right of way in that type of situation?

[shelbar53]

I am not sure, but I bet it was a lot of message leaving imo and not direct contact.

I know Cindy has already said there was a call on her bill that did not show up on the bill that LE has, and from the pings. :confused:

I doubt the phone company made a mistake...did you ever see a bill...they are so precise and detailed.

[kakax]

I didn't know we'd established which window is Casey's. Did the BH let us in on that little nugget of info?

I think the first window to the right of the door is Caseys. During Greta's interview, they walked from the living room down the hall to Casey's bedroom and it was the first door on the right. The other bedrooms are further down the hall. I could be completely wrong though. Just going on what I recall.

[tiny paw-prints]

So now Cindy betrayed Casey by telling her that she was going to file for custody of Caylee?

Holy SMOKES!


No, Cindy didn't "tell" Casey that.

Cindy made constant threats about that. Big difference.

If Casey truly wanted a "single life without child", I'm sure Casey would have been amenable to any sole custody arrangement by Cindy.

Wouldn't you agree?

[tashi]

The prosecutor asked her this exact question, IIRC. Cindy's answer was that sometimes they communicated by text message or on myspace. I can't wait until we get phone records to pour over. I guess we won't get that until she is charged or there is a trial.


And what a record that will be...I was shocked to hear Padilla say she made around 50 calls a day

[concernedmom]

If I were in their shoes Id like the media outside because its free security for them.

[~jomomma~]

I pray that the protesters or the anthonys dont do anything stupid again...im so sick of reading about it...this topic of lee almost hitting someone is being beaten to death and is so boring....why doesnt someone start a protester thread and take the conversation there!!!

hey, that's a good idea!!

[Shellberry]

[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12103296]If you go to a baseball game, you can expect to get hit by a ball. Assumption of Risk.[/QUOTE
ita
these people in the streets are playing with fire, do they not expect to be burned?

I suppose, the person with the child so happened to be the one that stepped on the actual property.

I dont condone Lee pulling into their own driveway like that- but what did she expect to happen? seriously-the people outside are there for the cameras. I dont care what anyone says, if you are going to protest-you dont take your kids with you, you get someone to watch them-or you go another day.
Yea, they know where their kids are..but would you take them to a murder trial?
seriously.

I hope the injunction the HOA is trying to get passed, does indeed get passed.
The protesters are making a mockery of the neighborhood Im glad I dont live there.
I would go totally ballistic if something wee going on like this right next door that my baby couldnt sleep at night or I'd be scared to let her outside in my own yard to play.

imo/jmo/etc

[concernedmom]

Why would george have his car parked on the street instead of the garage? Are they expecting company?:shrug:

[dixie77]

Continue to have hope, faith, and pray that Caylee is still alive - just as all Grandparents should do for their Grandchild.
=============

Grandparents should pray that their grandchild is alive when theres decomposition of their grandchild in the trunk of their daaughter's car?

[anyonesguess]

[QUOTE=Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
Continue to have hope, faith, and pray that Caylee is still alive - just as all Grandparents should do for their Grandchild.QUOTE]


What do you mean by the above statement that all grandparens should have hope and faith and pray that their grandchildren are alive? :confused:

I KNOW where my grandchildren are, as do their parents. They have not been misplaced.

[st777jo]

I think the spot in the window is a shadow from the tree

[nana6]

I wonder what that black thing is in Casey's window. I saw it last night but can't make it out.

I believe someone thought last night it may be a big picture of Caylee

[Acorn]

You are right..Thank you -i stand corrected. Tossed the flag-how could i forget :(
No problem. That guy is about Casey's size, if not smaller, so.....

I think George has a scope for size and muscle mass to judge who he thinks is the less formidable opponent. I hope he doesn't hold a rank in any martial art.

imo

[Takotna]

Is it true that Amy's personal checkbook was inside her car when she let Casey borrow the car July 8-15th?


Yup - What amazed me is Casey wasted no time spending Amy's money - in reading the formal charges at least one of the checks was used on the 8th! Casey moves fast.

AllMO:)

[Motomom]

I wonder what that black thing is in Casey's window. I saw it last night but can't make it out.

kakax, it could be something but it looks like the curtains are opened there, forming that block spot, and maybe a low table or dresser is across the window. when I saw it last night I thought casey was looking out. Well, at first I thought it was a ghost, until it didn't go away lol.

[st777jo]

Thats right, and that is destruction of public property. Last I heard that is unlawful.

Not counting the decomposition of a body in an Anthony car and yard.

[kakax]

I personally don't like the idea of the protesters, although I respect their right to be there. I definitely don't think children should be there, like others here have expressed.

None of these protesters should be standing near the driveway. My husband comes careening up our driveway and I'm always afraid he is going to hit one of the kids because he goes too fast.

Protesters need to stay away from that driveway because Lee is only thinking about getting in the driveway quickly.

I just worry that someone is going to get hurt, intentionally or not intentionally. Protesting isn't worth someone getting hurt, IMO.

[anyonesguess]

I doubt the phone company made a mistake...did you ever see a bill...they are so precise and detailed.

Shel, Yes, mine are quite detailed. I guess if ANYONE in the world's would be different, it would be Cindy's :)

I agree that LE's is an accurate record.

[Tiger]

Continue to have hope, faith, and pray that Caylee is still alive - just as all Grandparents should do for their Grandchild.
I understand hope and faith but when you have evidence that she is dead then it is their duty give Caylee a peaceful resting place. Also, this is not a Disney movie this a real life. I don't think any babysitter took her to give her a better life because they thought Casey was a bad mom. The only thing Disney in this story is Casey said she worked at UV! If someome took her (which I don't think they did) they are torturing her and doing things to her that would make you sick. If she was taken by someone who is doing these things to Caylee then death might be a blessing. Have you ever been tortured by heartless people? You would be praying for death! I just cannot understand how people want to believe she is alive being tortured? I understand hope but the only hope ones can have now is her fragile little body is brought home!

[nana6]

Why would george have his car parked on the street instead of the garage? Are they expecting company?:shrug:

Maybe he is not staying in tonight, Maybe he is going to take Casey in to LE

[kakax]

[QUOTE=Shellberry;12103562]

No argument from me.
:seeya:

Glad you have no arguments with yourself rofl!!

[Velouria]

I am not sure, but I bet it was a lot of message leaving imo and not direct contact.

I know Cindy has already said there was a call on her bill that did not show up on the bill that LE has, and from the pings. :confused:


And the cadaver dogs had "inconsistent alerts".

And the smell of decomposition was rotten pizza.

And the air sampling and hair testing from Casey's trunk is "unconfirmed".

And Casey has some "mistruths and half-truths".

And as for Caylee's father well, she can't remember his name.


My money is on the phone company records, and not what Cindy says.

[tiny paw-prints]

I think thats correct she left it there by mistake:read:

That's a pretty stupid "mistake" if you ask me, especially since Amy already knew that Casey had stolen the cash when Casey spent the night.

Amy being a long time friend of Casey, suggests to me that they both flocked together in the deception arena. If you knew your friend stole cash from you, would you let that friend borrow your car for 7 days while you're out of the country, and make the "mistake" of leaving your personal checkbook in the car? All this deception within a timeline of less than a month. Best Friends?

[bluwaters]

According to my family in Florida, pedestrians have all the rights, no matter what.
This is true. It is an unequal balance of forces.
A motor vehicle is deadly against a person.
The driver is required to control the car and not hit people.
Even people who may be standing where they should not be.
Pedestrians always have the right of way in Florida.
As Tim Miller would say - period, the end.

[hamebone]

I see what you're saying but imo as a nurse, mother, or grandmother Cindy hasn't done what she should have done, let alone legally should do. jmo

Cindy had very real concerns on July the 3rd when she wrote :

Thursday, July 03, 2008

Current mood: http://x.myspace.com/images/blog/moods/iBrads/sad.gif distraught

She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?
_ Cindy Anthony


She admits....Casey has no money, no future...safe to assume...she knew she had no healthy home at the time.

I dont know, maybe its me, perhaps I'm different...I love my Gbabies..I love them, I adore them, they are the joy of my life. I couldnt let them go off with no money, no future, no home to call thier own..They would have to lock me up in prison, cause she wouldnt be taking my babies under these conditions.

[beemeup]

Yes and I maintain it is a violent malevolent atmosphere. And Caylee, lived in the midst of it. And we need to remember that; and focus on that to find out how she died. She isnt alive in Puerto Rico, this child is dead, the FBI has said so LE has said so, Cindy said she smelled a dead body, saw Maggots for Gods sake as cruel and horrible as her statements are, hers bother me the most (thats no secret here)

Who could sleep at night with Casey in their home? Or with all the hammers in that home? With this level of hatred and temperaments, could any of you sleep at night? I'm over here and I cant even sleep at night. they are all giving several of us nightmares, because We are only thinking OF CAYLEE, something they refuse to do. They refuse to even look for her. cindy lied to the camera when she said that she would knock on doors and never sleep etc, all the while, they are sleeping, dressing every day; confronting strangers on their lawn, sticking out their chests repeatedly for the camera, STRUTTING in front of the camera continually. It's been a sickening performance. Yes, she looks like Betty Broderick; its' so hard for me not to think of her when I see cindy on film. It's too uncanny her resemblance to her. I thought BB was bad. CA tops her. I actually wondered if Broderick was her, because we had referred to her as such here on the board.
Forgive me Broderick I hope you are not CA. But I wonder because we all know they are reading here. And most likely posting too. They love the confrontation. This is the perfect atmosphere for all of them.

What, is Casey doing On Facebook adding "friends" fgs. She is that desperate to talk to people? Can you imagine, it's the last place I'd be if I were facing charges like she will be.......it defies logic to me.

Then again, no one she knew will talk to her; so she is probably so LONELY. And sad (sniff) :cuss:
That was a very good post. It just reps what u and all of us feel and the folks out in front of the house. It all defies logic. Casey is a classic socio and every beh. she has exibited supports it. Still living in the del.of grandeur. The cat walk to the sunglasses and beh. prior. Claims of a Nanny when most have babysitter's to the stealing etc. She is spinning. Not sure what is happening with the rest of the family. Not a typical familial response. It is a very unhealthy dynamic but nevertheless one that will be studied. We can only pray for Caylee wherever she is.:rose I know she is in a better place.

[anyonesguess]

Maybe he is not staying in tonight, Maybe he is going to take Casey in to LE

Maybe he thinks he can keep the police at bay that way so they won't arrest Casey or show up in the middle of the night for another removal of any items. :)

[shelbar53]

my grandaughter is at my house almost on a daily basis. anywhere from 10 hours to 3. Wow what a commontion when she is here. toys everywhere, tv to disney channel. meme come here, meme play with me, meme im hungry. its tireing. but after she is gone for an hour...i get buggy and miss her and want her back. Im sure the anthonys house was turned upside down with a little one running around and now.........NOTHING. its no wonder they go outside and get angry...they are at a loss how to cope in an empty house that was once filled with life and they are coping with the reason WHY the house is empty. We might not like them but im sure their hearts are just shattered without cayee there. :(

[anyonesguess]

And the cadaver dogs had "inconsistent alerts".

And the smell of decomposition was rotten pizza.

And the air sampling and hair testing from Casey's trunk is "unconfirmed".

And Casey has some "mistruths and half-truths".

And as for Caylee's father well, she can't remember his name.


My money is on the phone company records, and not what Cindy says.

Exactly :)

[st777jo]

The protesters may have had a legal right to be there, but I don't think they had the moral right to do so.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I don't know about the morality inside that house either, jmo

[Velouria]

Protesters need to stay away from that driveway because Lee is only thinking about getting in the driveway quickly.



You can't really blame him. He wants to be sure he makes it home in time for Nancy Grace.

[kakax]

You can't really blame him. He wants to be sure he makes it home in time for Nancy Grace.


LOL!!!! ugh, LOL is too short.

ETA: My husband doesn't have that excuse!! I'm going to put a speed limit sign in my driveway.

[Shellberry]

Why would george have his car parked on the street instead of the garage? Are they expecting company?:shrug:

I would do it to stop the gawkers from parking out front of my house
:shrug:

imo/jmo

[kakax]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html

If anyone wants to watch Myfox Orlando ... they may have already covered this case.

[flipflop]

my grandaughter is at my house almost on a daily basis. anywhere from 10 hours to 3. Wow what a commontion when she is here. toys everywhere, tv to disney channel. meme come here, meme play with me, meme im hungry. its tireing. but after she is gone for an hour...i get buggy and miss her and want her back. Im sure the anthonys house was turned upside down with a little one running around and now.........NOTHING. its no wonder they go outside and get angry...they are at a loss how to cope in an empty house that was once filled with life and they are coping with the reason WHY the house is empty. We might not like them but im sure their hearts are just shattered without cayee there. :(

You are right. Wanting to place their anger SOMEwhere. It is just too bad they aren't placing their anger where it belongs. On Casey.

[Fallen Angel]

Cindy had very real concerns on July the 3rd when she wrote :

*sniped for space*


She admits....Casey has no money, no future...safe to assume...she knew she had no healthy home at the time.

I dont know, maybe its me, perhaps I'm different...I love my Gbabies..I love them, I adore them, they are the joy of my life. I couldnt let them go off with no money, no future, no home to call thier own..They would have to lock me up in prison, cause she wouldnt be taking my babies under these conditions.
sure would have been nice if Cindy would have called Child protective services when Caylee was still alive :(

[tiny paw-prints]

So somehow in your mind, you've now decided that Casey is the victim here?

Unbelievable!

I'm really glad LE doesn't agree with that, nor DCFS.

No, somehow in your mind, you've decided that Casey is more of an adult than Cindy.

Do you have a link of denying that?

[kakax]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html

If anyone wants to watch Myfox Orlando ... they may have already covered this case.


NM, it is already over.

[st777jo]

I've always wondered what it is that is bothering her so much in life that she has this need to threaten the media, LE, people she doesnt know the Tow Magr, trying to actually go down there and telling him what he did and did not smell; absurd. And manipulative, and its' that behavior that really makes me believe that Caylee was in Trouble, early on. The one photograph of her in the backseat of the car, that questioning look on her face, it's a real moment caught on film, that I think showed the Real Caylee too; she's concerned in that photo. About what; was my question. I cant hardly look at that photo becuase I see a little girl afraid. Questioning, almost a dirty look, like Hey wait, it's not a nice look. then I go to her shaking her little finger no no no on that video and how Cindy would shake her finger at the media......Geez Louise.

Little kids mimic what they see and learn in the home. They mimic the adults in their life. We've never heard anyone in this family, tell us who Caylee really was. A stranger had to do that; Nate. Thanks Nate for telling us about Caylee, this family hasnt even mentioned her birth mark, let alone the color of her eyes, her likes, dislikes...Nothing. They've erased her. Like others did online in other missing person cases. That's hard to watch for me. Cindy A said I cant afford to lose another one. She Threw Caylee under a BUS.
For the world to see; on film. If there really was a heaven, and Caylee could look down on them all; how betrayed she would feel. The final insult.

Dots :no:

I am with you, Dots

[bchand]

I pray that the protesters or the anthonys dont do anything stupid again...im so sick of reading about it...this topic of lee almost hitting someone is being beaten to death and is so boring....why doesnt someone start a protester thread and take the conversation there!!!


Excellent idea shelbar!

[Shellberry]

You're welcome Shellberry! Yes We've been speculating about the house being bugged and this is the reason that she is not spending the days in the house; and possibly the reason they were writing notes that were found in the garbage that the lady went through. NG is upset about the 6 hours a day, Experts saying most likely house is bugged, and NG is totally upset that she is watching HBO and cable with her feet up blogging away online! Yep it burns me up to think about it too;

Hey Casey, you really dont deserve it but enjoy it while you can, taking a life has a cost. And Casey, you will have to pay for that; for the first time in your life, you are going to be held responsible for your actions!! You would have to have a face transplant at this point for people to not notice you and say "omg she is the one that killed her kid" whisper whisper, that will folllow you for the rest of your life, Ask Kate McCann. Ask them Casey. Write them a letter online. Maybe you can team up with them fly to London and have them support you in their town too. Babysit the Twins or something like that. (!!!!)
Dots

TY again!!


hmmmm-wouldnt it be funny if say, casey help LE bug the house? (if it is/were bugged)
I wonder if she is telling her attorney that it was the gp's that did something to caylee, and if they just bug the house they will find that out.

(trying to get herself off of course)

she has such a twisted sinister mind, I wouldnt doubt at all she would do something like that.


imo/jmo

[Pruddennce]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?

oh, cindy 'explained' that...why she called 911 and said she just found her...

see, she WAS in contact with her every day, *now here's the hair splitting*....except for TWO TIMES when it was voicemail back and forth AND text messages....

she specifically said EVERY DAY except those two times...but since those two instances occurred, she began to worry.

the phone records are key as to their credibility as it relates to the bond hearing testimony. many things were said in the bond hearing that dont connect to what they stated in their interviews.

bond hearing:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

best regards,
Pru

[st777jo]

I don't think Amy was one of the brightest bulbs in the pack.

Isabelle,
Rays'Mom

But I think Amy had 2 jobs and school, someone correct me if I am wrong.

[Shellberry]

[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12103591]

Glad you have no arguments with yourself rofl!!
huh? I didnt post that, lol

must be that 'quote' glitch that is going on on the new boards here.

[OneUp]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?AFAIK shelbar, that has never been released. I do *think* Cindy was talking to Nancy Grace once recently claiming the phone records were wrong and calls were missing that she made to Casey. I would assume that mean there weren't any/very many calls showing and she wanted to portray that she had called regularly but was upset that the records proved her wrong...(that's my reading between the lines though, so please don't mistake it for anything but my opinion). Probably, she also wanted to make it seem that Casey had recieved calls from Z F-G that were "missing", of course any calls gone to kaka-lalal-lamba land is just plain bull IMO.
JMO

[Chevalier]

I pray that the protesters or the anthonys dont do anything stupid again...im so sick of reading about it...this topic of lee almost hitting someone is being beaten to death and is so boring....why doesnt someone start a protester thread and take the conversation there!!!Good luck dictating the course of the conversation.

The best way for you to accomplish your goals is to step up and start a stimulating conversation about something you find worthy of discussion. Something interesting enough that you will totally distract posters from the protester drama. Are you up to the task? Go for it.

[hamebone]

I don't think Amy was one of the brightest bulbs in the pack.

Isabelle,
Rays'Mom


Lets see..

AMY....college

Casey..HS drop out

AMY...Job

Casey..play Job

AMY... money

Casey.. well, you get the point.

[Joan Weiss]

That's a pretty stupid "mistake" if you ask me, especially since Amy already knew that Casey had stolen the cash when Casey spent the night.

Amy being a long time friend of Casey, suggests to me that they both flocked together in the deception arena. If you knew your friend stole cash from you, would you let that friend borrow your car for 7 days while you're out of the country, and make the "mistake" of leaving your personal checkbook in the car? All this deception within a timeline of less than a month. Best Friends?Casey denied stealing the money. She convinced Amy that Amy had sleepwalked and hid the money. Amy thought oh well, it's in the house someplace and it'll be there, safe. imo

[msjoni]

This is true. It is an unequal balance of forces.
A motor vehicle is deadly against a person.
The driver is required to control the car and not hit people.
Even people who may be standing where they should not be.
Pedestrians always have the right of way in Florida.
As Tim Miller would say - period, the end.

If I'm not mistaken, pedestrians always have the right of way.... in all States. Here in NJ we have to stop for people crossing the street who are going to the post office.

[shelbar53]

Those parents have been cleared, BTW - doubtful that Casey will have equal findings.

LE never said the parents were clear, their are so many lies coming out of their mouths, they are still being investigated

[tiny paw-prints]

So you're only assuming that Cindy didn't tell Casey, and that she made constant threats.

Why assume that in order to twist what we DO know, which certainly isn't what you have just posted?

LOL! I'm not assuming Anything!

I'm positive that Casey Marie Anthony would have been amenable to any sole custody arrangement by her own mother Cindy, if Casey truly wished to operate a single life, totally free of any parental child responsibilities. Positive! Happens every day in America and abroad. It's workable.

[shelbar53]

Good luck dictating the course of the conversation.

The best way for you to accomplish your goals is to step up and start a stimulating conversation about something you find worthy of discussion. Something interesting enough that you will totally distract posters from the protester drama. Are you up to the task? Go for it.

i have been, my next step is to put them on ignire...they waste space

[Tiger]

Casey denied stealing the money. She convinced Amy that Amy had sleepwalked and hid the money. Amy thought oh well, it's in the house someplace and it'll be there, safe. imo

Your right! Also she was not long time friend. IIRC she only knew Casey a little over a year. Amy seems like she is just a really nice girl who wanted to believe Casey was a friend to her.

[Joan Weiss]

Maybe he is not staying in tonight, Maybe he is going to take Casey in to LEMaybe he's going to work. I doubt he'd make Casey walk to the curb, in the dark. imo

[Joan Weiss]

Your right! Also she was not long time friend. IIRC she only knew Casey a little over a year. Amy seems like she is just a really nice girl who wanted to believe Casey was a friend to her.Exactly. Nothing wrong with having trust and faith in a friend. imo

[Chevalier]

Lets see..

AMY....college

Casey..HS drop out

AMY...Job

Casey..play Job

AMY... money

Casey.. well, you get the point.

Good job. :beer:

[shelbar53]

Would you please provide a link in support of this statement? TIA

tomorrow,,,,im to tired now

[Joan Weiss]

Would you please provide a link in support of this statement? TIAhave you ever provided any links?

[flipflop]

Oh my that is too funny. In the last month we have watched our neighbour across the road drive thru the garage door 3 times. Each time he came over and he and my hubby put the door back on. He kept blaming the car. He is on car number 4 now in 4 weeks. This morning he made it in as i sat and had my coffee. Hit it but did not knock it off. I hollered out hey Joe how's the new car working out for ya. He has a very good sense of humour or i would not have said it. I just question his sense at times. :lol:

I don't mean to be rude but CW has said auto bannings on off topic. I really don't want the board shut down b/c I rely on them to inform me.

[Shellberry]

[QUOTE=Shellberry;12103562]No argument from me.
:seeya:
ok, there it is LOL- crazy post glitch


I think a thread about the protesters would be an excellent idea.

[bookie]

It is a little strange huh?
:shrug:



It's easy to fix. At the top of the quoted post is this....



[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12103701][QUOTE=Shellberry;12103695]

Just remove the name of the person you aren't quoting. I'm quoting you so I removed shellberry's name and the quote should be fixed.

[Tiger]

Exactly. Nothing wrong with having trust and faith in a friend. imo

You are so correct:) A matter of fact I think I have heard "faith" and "hope" alot on this board this evening:)

[bluwaters]

sure would have been nice if Cindy would have called Child protective services when Caylee was still alive :(
:( I think Cindy will always regret that. But, how could she have foreseen this? For all of Casey's faults and dishonesty, how could her mother imagine that Casey would kill Caylee?

:rose:

[Chevalier]

It looks like peeps are attacking the web cam. Oh goodness...

Huh? You mean the dude and woman in the big yellow vehicle? The guy who stopped his car in the middle of the street, got out and snapped pics of the house?

[Joan Weiss]

If I'm not mistaken, pedestrians always have the right of way.... in all States. Here in NJ we have to stop for people crossing the street who are going to the post office.Not to mention that every driver is expected to have his/her car under control. If you rear-end someone, you get the ticket/fault. WTH is the argument about that?

Thanks for bringing this up. imo

[Shellberry]

It looks like peeps are attacking the web cam. Oh goodness...

dang-I missed it!
man, today feels like it has been such a busy day for me, Im still waiting to get into relax mode here so I can try to catch up
missed lots today from what I gather.



is there a vigil this weekend in tampa does anyone know?
I read yesterday there was supposed to be one for caylee, trenton & other missing kids in FL?
I am so close, I will definately go to it if there is one!!

[flipflop]

You are so correct:) A matter of fact I think I have heard "faith" and "hope" alot on this board this evening:)

Which means a faith in God. Yay I have heard that too.

[msjoni]

But I think Amy had 2 jobs and school, someone correct me if I am wrong.

Amy has a college degree. I would say Amy was trusting and naive and not believing a friend could do this to her.

[Takotna]

But I think Amy had 2 jobs and school, someone correct me if I am wrong.


>>In reading Amy's interview, she struck me as a hardworking trusting person who was really making an effort to get on her feet. IIRC she just got a degree = something theater related - eventhough it's her chosen area of interest, she has to keep a couple jobs at a time because it doesn't pay well.

IMO she was the kind of friend 'regular folks' can treasure. It ocurred to
me she probably thought Casey was the same sort of person. They really didn't know eachother too long - I'll have to check the tome...I know the friendship wasn't long term.

Casey took Amy for a ride and probably thought she'd get away with it. Perhaps she would have, had all the other business not come down the pike. Casey moves from group to group - superficial relationships -


AllMO:)

[Joan Weiss]

Which statement of fact made by me would you like a link to?Assumption of risk. Got a legal link for that?

[Shellberry]

It's easy to fix. At the top of the quoted post is this....



[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12103701][QUOTE=Shellberry;12103695]

Just remove the name of the person you aren't quoting. I'm quoting you so I removed shellberry's name and the quote should be fixed.

see it shows up the correct way when I am about to post--then when I posted it crapped out, I didnt have a prob quoting until just a sec ago.
they much still be working out the glitches.
imo/jmo

[anyonesguess]

But I think Amy had 2 jobs and school, someone correct me if I am wrong.

Well that kind of talk is very alien to this message board. Someone who works at 2 jobs, and goes to school? Sounds like one end of the spectrum between Amy and Casey to me imo.

[Pruddennce]

That's a pretty stupid "mistake" if you ask me, especially since Amy already knew that Casey had stolen the cash when Casey spent the night.

Amy being a long time friend of Casey, suggests to me that they both flocked together in the deception arena. If you knew your friend stole cash from you, would you let that friend borrow your car for 7 days while you're out of the country, and make the "mistake" of leaving your personal checkbook in the car? All this deception within a timeline of less than a month. Best Friends?

Amy wasnt a long time friend of Casey's. She met her a little over a year ago per her statement.

amy didnt want to accuse her....and she didnt...she wanted to 'believe' the story casey told and she did just that. Casey is a manipulator, a liar, an actress. Amy was deceived. She is the victim.

listen my husband isnt a 20 something year old and he is always taking his wallet out of his pocket and putting in his car console when he drives....and has on MANY occasions left it in the car....its maddening to me...

he is a brilliant guy, but thats what he does now and then.

so, no, I dont see her as a cohort, she was responsible...she had JOBS, she went to work and earned a living and then was victimized.

best regards,
Pru

[Shellberry]

I rest my case on the quoting, lol-it just did it again

[tiny paw-prints]

Lets see..

AMY....college

Casey..HS drop out

AMY...Job

Casey..play Job

AMY... money

Casey.. well, you get the point.


Yep! And the point?

They were Best Friends! For how long?

[dixie77]

When LE comes out and states that without additions of "we believe", "it implies", "we think", and then tie it all up with "but this is still a Missing Persons case, and we'd love to find Caylee alive!" - then maybe it'll be believable that they actually do know that Caylee is deceased.

Until then, not so much!
==========

OHHHHHHH they know. JMO

[Tiger]

Yep! And the point?

They were Best Friends! For how long?
Where are you getting the "Best Friends" thing?:shrug:

[bluwaters]

Casey denied stealing the money. She convinced Amy that Amy had sleepwalked and hid the money. Amy thought oh well, it's in the house someplace and it'll be there, safe. imo
Amy did not know that Casey had ripped her off until after her trip to PR.
Casey picked her up and acted like everything was fine.
Amy went online to check her bank balance and discovered that it had been cleaned out. That's when Amy had to face the truth about Casey.

[bchand]

>>In reading Amy's interview, she struck me as a hardworking trusting person who was really making an effort to get on her feet. IIRC she just got a degree = something theater related - eventhough it's her chosen area of interest, she has to keep a couple jobs at a time because it doesn't pay well.

IMO she was the kind of friend 'regular folks' can treasure. It ocurred to
me she probably thought Casey was the same sort of person. They really didn't know eachother too long - I'll have to check the tome...I know the friendship wasn't long term.

Casey took Amy for a ride and probably thought she'd get away with it. Perhaps she would have, had all the other business not come down the pike. Casey moves from group to group - superficial relationships -


AllMO:)


IIRC Amy was away on a cruise ship working and when she came back she said Casey had ingratiated herself with Amy's group of friends, so she figured she was ok.

[tiny paw-prints]

Casey denied stealing the money. She convinced Amy that Amy had sleepwalked and hid the money. Amy thought oh well, it's in the house someplace and it'll be there, safe. imo

Really?!!??

How do you convince someone that they sleepwalked?

I might want to try that some day.

[Shellberry]

THREAD ABOUT THE PROTESTERS
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12103787#post12103787

thought I'd go ahead and make one--I really do think we need one at this point.

dont want to get closed down in the daily threads for any reason.



imo/jmo

[anyonesguess]

It looks like peeps are attacking the web cam. Oh goodness...


On a sidenote seeing Georges car blocking the driveway. I would think it is illegal for him to park like that blocking driveway. In our area I think we would be warned or ticketed. How could an ambulance or firetruck get up in driveway if necessary?

[bluwaters]

If I'm not mistaken, pedestrians always have the right of way.... in all States. Here in NJ we have to stop for people crossing the street who are going to the post office.

I know it is true in Florida and am very glad to hear that it is the law everywhere in the States.
You just can't hit peeps with a car because you are mad at them!

:beer:

[Shellberry]

IIRC Amy was away on a cruise ship working and when she came back she said Casey had ingratiated herself with Amy's group of friends, so she figured she was ok.

yep that is true, amy didnt even really 'know' her.


imo/jmo

[Tiger]

Really?!!??

How do you convince someone that they sleepwalked?

I might want to try that some day.

Have you ever seen anyone sleepwalk? They do not remember anything at all...nada...zilch...nothing! You could easily tell someone they did something when they sleepwalked and they could not say they didn't. Very easy!

[bluwaters]

LE never said the parents were clear, their are so many lies coming out of their mouths, they are still being investigated

You are correct. LE has never said that C & G are clear. Just like they never said that the backyard was clear after bringing in cadaver dogs.

[concernedmom]

On a sidenote seeing Georges car blocking the driveway. I would think it is illegal for him to park like that blocking driveway. In our area I think we would be warned or ticketed. How could an ambulance or firetruck get up in driveway if necessary?
I wouldnt want to park on the street because someone could come up on the side the TV people cant see and slash a tire. Maybe he thinks LE will be coming and he is trying to block them out?:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Amy did not know that Casey had ripped her off until after her trip to PR.
Casey picked her up and acted like everything was fine.
Amy went online to check her bank balance and discovered that it had been cleaned out. That's when Amy had to face the truth about Casey.I know that. :shrug:

[Pruddennce]

Yep! And the point?

They were Best Friends! For how long?

again, Amy met her a little over a year ago and was away for 6 months...subtract that time from when she 'met' her, which really wasnt a 'meet', Casey happened to be at a party she hosted....

her statement is pretty clear as to how Casey 'became' a part of her life.

best regards,
Pru

[Tiger]

Christina was supposedly Casey's best friend, Amy was a new good friend from what I also recall.
Thank you:) That is what I remembered too!

[cherish]

TY again!!


hmmmm-wouldnt it be funny if say, casey help LE bug the house? (if it is/were bugged)
I wonder if she is telling her attorney that it was the gp's that did something to caylee, and if they just bug the house they will find that out.

(trying to get herself off of course)

she has such a twisted sinister mind, I wouldnt doubt at all she would do something like that.


imo/jmo

For all we know, Casey might be spending her time at her attny's office reading the boards all day.

So, we probably should avoid giving her any new BS stories for her defense.

[dixie77]

Where did the info regarding the search being called off originate? Thanks.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
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Hi Isabelle That came from NG tonite. If its true, i find it very strange. Maybe the bones and clothes they found over the weekend were Caylee's. God only knows. JMO

[5boxersmom]

I would love to know how Casey got around after the 27th until she borrowed Amy's car. Also how did she get from place to place when Tone left and she didn't stay at his apartment? Did she have Amy's car the whole time Tone was in in NY?


Caylee:rose:

[dixie77]

LE has cleared the backyard, yes.
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According to the talking heads on NG tonite. JMO

[bluwaters]

tomorrow,,,,im to tired now

There is no reason for you to provide a link to something that was never said. Scooby needs to provide the link where LE states that the GPs are clear.

:hat:

[bookie]

Okay, thanks. Lets see if I did it right?



Yep, you got it right.

[Joan Weiss]

THREAD ABOUT THE PROTESTERS
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12103787#post12103787

thought I'd go ahead and make one--I really do think we need one at this point.

dont want to get closed down in the daily threads for any reason.



imo/jmoYou're not trying to get our attention, are you? Some days that's all we have to discuss. What would you like to discuss?

[Shellberry]

I think someone tried that already. It ended up right back in the daily thread, IIRC.
oh well, I tried, lol
if it ends up in-it does.

:shrug:


imo/jmo

[Tiger]

And, Amy loaned Casey her car, with a checkbook in the glove compartment. Now, that is stupid.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Amy forgot it was in the glove compartment. Amy should not be blamed for Casey stealing...Casey should be blamed for Casey stealing! I do not think you should be attacking a victim here:no:

[BrownEyedF]

I think it's devasting that the search for Caylee is off. It sickens me that Cindy, George and Lee are protecting their daughter instead of standing up for their helpless granddaughter. Why?? To show Casey that she can always get away with things and they will always protect her and make things better for her?? When does it stop?? I use to think George and Cindy were victims as well...but I know feel they are cold, heartless people. It's their house...they don't have to "live" by Jose Baez's rules. If they want to question Casey, they can. It's their house. If Casey doesn't like it, she can go back to jail...or move in with Baez and his wife.

Exactly~~~I totally agree. If she doesn't want to be questioned, then she can find somewhere else to stay. Why in the world would her parents agree to not ask her questions? That baffles me. I don't think Cindy would have the self-control not to ask.

[Shellberry]

You're not trying to get our attention, are you? Some days that's all we have to discuss. What would you like to discuss?

lol, no
I saw a post a few pages back someone mentioned starting a protester thread...
there is a lot of talk about them today, that I've seen since I got on.
I dont want the board to get closed down again if some people come in and start complaining about being 'off topic' with caylee by posting about the protesters.



imo/jmo

I made it big because everyone does that when they start a new thread I noticed...

[Takotna]

As backed up by Tony and nate (the on the couch roomie) who was there on the 15th when Amy knocked on the door to Tony's apt and asked to talk to Casey...and Casey was in a huff about it...that Casey went outside and then was immediately followed back in by Amy and Cindy (whom they didn't know was Casey's mom at the time) and that they left soon after.

Gently snipped..

Like going into the Kentucky Derby and betting on the horse with no legs...

gently snipped

..

>>Here's a question I had -

I'm wondering how Cindy got Casey to leave with her??
In Nate's interview with NG, he said Casey said she'd go outside and talk but she wouldn't go anywhere with her mother.
What changed her mind? It seems to me there must have been some threat involved - (Come with me or I'll make a scene and tell TonE all about you?! - something like that.)

I particularly liked your horse with no legs HWNL - I think we should use this!

Picturing this HWNL at the Derby gave me the biggest liugh of my day:)

AllMO

[Joan Weiss]

And, Amy loaned Casey her car, with a checkbook in the glove compartment. Now, that is stupid.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomBlame the victim. In her excitement about her trip, Amy forgot it was in there.

So if someone loans a friend her car, it's OK to rip that friend off, because she is "stupid" to trust her friend? :rolleyes:

[Fallen Angel]

:( I think Cindy will always regret that. But, how could she have foreseen this? For all of Casey's faults and dishonesty, how could her mother imagine that Casey would kill Caylee?

:rose:

ohhh no no i don't think Cindy would ever in her wildest dreams imagine Casey would kill Caylee but she had to know Casey was a partier and drank a lot and that alone could have cause physical or mental harm to Caylee.

[kitty1182]

Amy forgot it was in the glove compartment. Amy should not be blamed for Casey stealing...Casey should be blamed for Casey stealing! I do not think you should be attacking a victim here:no:


I agree..Just because she forgot and left her check book didn't give Casey the right to steal her money..

[tiny paw-prints]

(snipped)....

Somehow, you've made Casey out to be the "betrayal victim" in this, which is pretty much hugely twisting everything about this case that we know to be fact.


I've snipped your post to eliminate the unnecessary bold, red, and underline content of your posts.

Fact? I am not aware that Casey exited the Anthony house with Caylee on the night of June 15th. Do you have proof that she did?

[Shellberry]

On a sidenote seeing Georges car blocking the driveway. I would think it is illegal for him to park like that blocking driveway. In our area I think we would be warned or ticketed. How could an ambulance or firetruck get up in driveway if necessary?

imo-you are allowed to block your own driveway.
(at least you are where I was from in PA)

[dixie77]

Thanks. Don't know that I believe NG. What she does is make money. Was that the "bombshell" for tonight?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
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I didnt see any bombshell tonite. lol

[Shellberry]

I think there is much more to that story than is now being said as well.

I think there is a lot more to everything than we are being told.
well, a lot more than LE is letting out.




imo/jmo

[Pruddennce]

And, Amy loaned Casey her car, with a checkbook in the glove compartment. Now, that is stupid.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

and Casey stole from Amy and thats CRIMINAL.

I think I would prefer to be known as stupid rather than a criminal.

however a better choice of words is careless, thus, she became a victim.

best regards,
Pru

[dixie77]

Probably the same way one would convince their parents that a mythical nanny took off with their granddaughter.

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Post of the nite. JMO

[Tiger]

and Casey stole from Amy and thats CRIMINAL.

I think I would prefer to be known as stupid rather than a criminal.

however a better choice of words is careless, thus, she became a victim.

best regards,
Pru

Very good point!

[5boxersmom]

Little Bitty

Why are you yelling at me? :confused:

I can't keep all the dates straight.

So if Tone was back by the 4th and them Amy left the 8th or 9th. Wonder what Casey did to get around in that time?

Caylee:rose:

[barskin&co.]

Really?!!??

How do you convince someone that they sleepwalked?

I might want to try that some day.

I am not sure why you are expressing so much hostility to a woman who is merely a witness and a victim of Casey's theft. :confused:

[bluwaters]

I wouldnt want to park on the street because someone could come up on the side the TV people cant see and slash a tire. Maybe he thinks LE will be coming and he is trying to block them out?:shrug:
I think that the car is there to block the drive from anyone who might drive up it with malicious intent. Maybe they can sleep better knowing the drive is closed off. Of course, I couldn't sleep at all if Casey was in the house. :chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

lol, no
I saw a post a few pages back someone mentioned starting a protester thread...
there is a lot of talk about them today, that I've seen since I got on.
I dont want the board to get closed down again if some people come in and start complaining about being 'off topic' with caylee by posting about the protesters.



imo/jmo

I made it big because everyone does that when they start a new thread I noticed...The protesters have never been off-topic. They're there, and that's the topic.

That was pretty big lettering, imo.

[Fallen Angel]

I think there is much more to that story than is now being said as well.

you think Amy gave Casey blank checks?
i keep a book of checks in my glove box in case i'm some where and i run out. infact that just happen to me a few weeks ago buying school clothes.

[luvinlife]

According to the document dump and Casey's myspace page before the contents were deleted...Tony went to NY that weekend of the 27th. That same night and whole weekend Casey spent with Jesse Grunde ex-cop and possible but non-father of Caylee by DNA tests. She quoted on Cameron Compano's myspace pabe of June 28th and even shared a photobucket with Cameron that she: Got drunk last night. Threatened to kill someone. Good times. Her words not mine.[/FONT][/SIZE]


adjusted size lol

Do we know for sure they were together. Anyways that would explain the lack of phone calls if she were trying to get snuggly with Jesse because Tony was out of town. moo

[Pruddennce]

According to the document dump and Casey's myspace page before the contents were deleted...Tony went to NY that weekend of the 27th. That same night and whole weekend Casey spent with Jesse Grunde ex-cop and possible but non-father of Caylee by DNA tests. She quoted on Cameron Compano's myspace pabe of June 28th and even shared a photobucket with Cameron that she: Got drunk last night. Threatened to kill someone. Good times. Her words not mine.

alot of large font for old news.

best regards,
Pru

[Shellberry]

For all we know, Casey might be spending her time at her attny's office reading the boards all day.

So, we probably should avoid giving her any new BS stories for her defense.

funny, I wondered if she read about herself online--to check our theories against herself.

imo/jmo

[nana6]

ohhh no no i don't think Cindy would ever in her wildest dreams imagine Casey would kill Caylee but she had to know Casey was a partier and drank a lot and that alone could have cause physical or mental harm to Caylee.

as a nana myself I cannot imagine my girls going out at night to clubs and taking my granddaughters with them.. Where did Cindy think Casey was going those nights with little Caylee?

[Boxer]

adjusted size lol

Do we know for sure they were together. Anyways that would explain the lack of phone calls if she were trying to get snuggly with Jesse because Tony was out of town. moo



my, but this woman is like an unmarried black widow....:chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

and Casey stole from Amy and thats CRIMINAL.

I think I would prefer to be known as stupid rather than a criminal.

however a better choice of words is careless, thus, she became a victim.

best regards,
PruAmy wasn't stupid. Amy needed to get to the airport, IIRC, and Casey probably suggested it. Casey needed a car, and Amy was the mark. Amy made a leap of faith, imo.

[Shellberry]

The protesters have never been off-topic. They're there, and that's the topic.

That was pretty big lettering, imo.
sorry it doesnt look big on my comp.
it is actually kinda small, but the font is in bold (arial bold)

thats all.

nothing meant by it, etc etc.

and there were people in a night thread last night or one of the last couple nights complaining about the posts regarding the protesters.



imo/jmo

[cherish]

Casey denied stealing the money. She convinced Amy that Amy had sleepwalked and hid the money. Amy thought oh well, it's in the house someplace and it'll be there, safe. imo

Really? I haven't heard this yet. I guess I've got some catching up to do.

[Larkin]

im asking this again: when cindy called 911 she said her daughter has been missing for a month. at the bond hearing she said she talked to casey everyday. I wonder what the phone logs show. does it show she talked to casey everyday...maybe she called her but got voicemail. I wonder how long the calls were...just long enough for a voice mail or regualr conversation. did casey ever call her mom during that month? was this ever mentioned?

Shelbar, that's the same question I have! If anyone has read throught the 400 docs, does it show any phone logs, texts or IM's in the entire 30+ days Cindy said Casey was missing? Cindy stated at the bond hearing, that they were in contact everyday.... ABSOLUTELY!

I find that hard to believe, but another Cindy "mistruth" during the bond hearing was that Cindy stated Casey had graduated HS... Hmmmm Just adding it to the lie "list" ..... Cindy is never going to be able to go to trial with all the "mistruths" she herself has spread. Should be veddy interesting, if she ever goes on the stand under oath...

Oh, but wait...she was under oath at that bond hearing, no?