Laurean could return to NC next week

[athy]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3530721/

[henry]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3530721/

:patriot:thanks soo much athy (hah - did you forget a letter?)

that's the absolute best news i've heard! . . . we can finally start singing . . . when cesar comes marching home again, hurrah hurrah . . . or should i say oorah!

edit . . . it's also in the jdnews

A Mexican court judge has ruled that Cesar Laurean will be returned to Onslow County, according to information received by the Onslow County Sheriff's Office. Laurean's return could be expected within one week. Federal authorities will handle transporting Cesar Lauren back to the Onslow County Jail.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/_59365___article.html/_.html

[caejde]

This is great news!

[henry]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3530721/

it sure is caejde! is there any other news being released now? help me out here . . . what's the name of that reporter that seems to know what's going on?

guess i'll be spending time on the links page rereading and trying to get the facts straight!

[StickyBeak]

Woweee! Has been a long time since any news.

Henry, do you mean Lyndell blog? Think this is the link


http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?cat=3

[henry]

thanks stickyb . . . that's the name - i'll have to save this link for early morning reading

[AlohaRainbow]

Laurean could return to NC next week
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3530721/

Yay!
good news
i wonder how quickly or slowly the wheels of justice will spin once he's back in NC

[henry]

on the blog link lkay says he could be coming back as soon as wednesday . . . going to see if i can find more

[henry]

lol - i'm out of practice here & didn't make the 10 minute edit!

let the confusion begin - again!

dadewey says he won't be back next week and he was . . . quote . . . "blindsided" by Brown's announcement, and based on the information he has, the earliest Laurean could return to face charges in Onslow County is mid-October."

cesar's lawyer is saying . . . "I do not know whether my client will appeal the extradition or not," he said. "But we are at least a month or more away from his return."

it also says cesar has 15 days to appeal the extradition decision that was granted on september 4 . . .

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/_59365___article.html/_.html

[caejde]

Thanks for the info henry! In my opinion, I don't think they should announce when he's coming back until he is acutally back and behind bars!

[donna]

This is great news!

Hi, caejde!

Can you believe it? FINALLY!!! I just cannot wait until Cesar is back and the wheels of justice start rolling!

I hope the old gang comes back to post!

:patriot:

[baywench]

Hi, caejde!

Can you believe it? FINALLY!!! I just cannot wait until Cesar is back and the wheels of justice start rolling!

I hope the old gang comes back to post!

:patriot:


One of the old gang reporting for duty:patriot: Wow what an absolute news blackout on this one. Can't wait to see him....hope he looks haggard. jmo

[IvySterling]

Hopefully now, we get some facts on this case. Wonder how quiet they'll try to keep it when he arrives?

[henry]

gmorning ivysterling . . . i'm guessing he'll be safely in sbrown's jail before we hear anything. but i'm sure lkay will give us the scoop :) - or, at least the parts of it he wants us to know!

he/lkay did mention on his blog recently that . . . quote: The last sentence in the now infamous note Laurean is said to have left to his wife the morning he fled Onslow County - the one she turned over to authorities - asks her to burn the letter after reading it.

wonder why he's letting that one out of his pocket now? also, it'd be interesting to learn how he "discovered" this little tidbit . . . iirc, that note has not been released by LE.

here's the link to the quote above

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=646

[donna]

One of the old gang reporting for duty:patriot: Wow what an absolute news blackout on this one. Can't wait to see him....hope he looks haggard. jmo

:seeya:

Hi, baywench! (hope your daughter is doing great - military, right?)

I have been away and am just now seeing your post! So Cesar is not back yet, huh? I cannot wait to see him either! Better yet, I absolutely cannot wait until the trial begins!

:patriot:

[baywench]

:seeya:

Hi, baywench! (hope your daughter is doing great - military, right?)

I have been away and am just now seeing your post! So Cesar is not back yet, huh? I cannot wait to see him either! Better yet, I absolutely cannot wait until the trial begins!

:patriot:

Hi Donna good to see you! She's doing great thank you. She is however redeploying around the first of October. I am bummed....she is not.:(

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425923,00.html

"Laurean will not be singled out; he will receive the same humane treatment all the inmates in the jail do," Brown said. "Humans are humans; if you mistreat them for any reason you are not who you are supposed to be."

[SavannahStar]

Well, very interesting. What I have always thought......

If the last line on the “note” instructed Christina to burn it, and she actually had done that, Cesar might be as free as a bird now. She did the right thing by taking the notes to LE, although the personal cost to her has been heavy, both socially, and emotionally.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=646

[martha]

Do you all think cl will be back next week? I sure hope so and hope we get some more news on this case. I still think about that pretty ml and her baby. jmho:rose:

[GentleBreeze]

Do you all think cl will be back next week? I sure hope so and hope we get some more news on this case. I still think about that pretty ml and her baby. jmho:rose:

I think it will be about 2 weeks from now. We may never even know about it until he is already being held in Sheriff Brown's jail.

imoo:seeya:

[martha]

Thanks GB I got something today saying he might be back in a few weeks. I guess we will not know for sure until they have him back in jail in the us. I wonder how long we will have to wait on that trial.ha jmho.:rose:

[GentleBreeze]

Thanks GB I got something today saying he might be back in a few weeks. I guess we will not know for sure until they have him back in jail in the us. I wonder how long we will have to wait on that trial.ha jmho.:rose:

Hey Martha!

Yes, I think they are going to bring him back and give no prior warning that he is coming. Sheriff Brown is a very fair minded man and he knows that it is his duty to do the right thing when it comes to seeing that Laurean is not harmed. I am sure they will keep him away from the other inmates and he will most likely be put in a cell by himself.

Now the trial? Laurean will just begin to have contact with his lawyer for the first time there so I think it will probably be at least 9 months to a year. Unless Laurean wants to get on with it. He hasn't even been arraigned yet. After then he can opt for a speedy trial. His lawyer has already stated though that Laurean will plead Not Guilty.

Wonder if he is still married and if so will she come to see him and bring their daughter?

imoo:seeya:

[donna]

One of the old gang reporting for duty:patriot: Wow what an absolute news blackout on this one. Can't wait to see him....hope he looks haggard. jmo


:seeya:

Hi, bay!!!

I hope Cesar looks haggard also and that freedom will seem such a distant memory to him! He will have a warm welcome in Onslow County Jail!!! People will still be furious at him and reality will again set in.

Wonder if Christina will take their little girl to visit him? I would think that he will be able to have visitors. When/if he sees his little girl again, I hope he is just eaten up with remembering that all he had to do was keep his pants zipped, go to work every day, come home and enjoy life with his little girl.

But no, Cesar could not do that. Maria and Gabriel are dead. I hope that he never has another peaceful moment as long as he lives!

I wonder how long we are going to have to wait for a trial?

(O/T - Bay, I hope your daughter is doing well!)

:patriot:

[donna]

:seeya:

Martha, I hope you are doing well!! - :rose:

Cesar will be back soon! Wonder if Cesar's lawyer wants a speedy trial?

:)

[donna]

Hi Donna good to see you! She's doing great thank you. She is however redeploying around the first of October. I am bummed....she is not.:(

I am going to check back here every day until Cesar is back!

(bay, your daughter will STAY in my prayers, and so will you and your family.)

:patriot:

[martha]

:seeya:

Martha, I hope you are doing well!! - Wonder if Cesar's lawyer wants a speedy trial?

:)Hi Donna, I don;t know but I hope they have a trial soon. I know it has taken a long time to get him back but I sure hope the trial don;t take that long. I have come to this board a lot just to check and see if there was any news on him. It sure got quite and I have not got one bit of news on cl. Ddo you think his family has got to go see him while he was in jail in mexico? He has made a lot of people suffer with what he did. jmho:rose:

[Keegan]

I am going to check back here every day until Cesar is back!

(bay, your daughter will STAY in my prayers, and so will you and your family.)

:patriot:

I check in daily. I will continuing doing it. I will stop the day he is taken to the chamber.

[Search4U]

Where the HECK is he???????

[martha]

I live in miss. and don;t get any news on this case so I come here to see if he has been brought back to the states. I sure hope someone will let me know if there is any news on cl. I wish cases like this did not take so long. jmho:rose:

[gaelicpeas]

Just checking in to see if there is anything new in this case...

[sunbunny]

Just checking in to see if there is anything new in this case...

this is the latest that i could find, dated 9/12/08. (emphasis added)
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2008/09/cesar-laurean-extradition-approved.html

from the article:
DA Dewey Hudson said the earliest Laurean could return to face charges in Onslow County is mid-October, as Laurean could appeal the court decision.

Laurean's court-appointed lawyer, Dick McNeil said he doesn’t know if Laurean will appeal and we are at least a month or more away from his return.

[nuttintodo]

He won't be returning anytime soon....

Laurean fighting extradition

Jacksonville attorney Dick McNeil said his client has filed an extradition appeal in a Mexican court.

Local prosecutors ... but now say the wait could be more than a year.

The Onslow County District Attorney said his office has made inquiries about Laurean's extradition appeal status through the U.S. State Department, but has not received an official reply from Mexican authorities.

"I trust what Dick McNeil says about it. He is a good attorney with a solid reputation," said Dewey Hudson, the district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.

And in news on the DNA front:

Federal investigators have property that contains Laurean's DNA, but were waiting to perform a paternity test when Laurean returns to North Carolina to ensure a clean sample...

However, Ciccarelli told The Daily News on Friday that if the extradition process drags on, NCIS will consider serving a search warrant through Mexican authorities to get a DNA sample from Laurean.

"We need to get this critical investigative step taken care of," Ciccarelli said of the paternity test.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_59998___article.html/extradition_attorney.html

Also the reporter Lindell Kay has posted that a federal source has told him that Christina Laurean has been denied requests (made by her) to visit her husband in Mexico by the Marine Corps.

So it appears that we are in for a long wait.

Hi everyone. Wish I could have brought better news.

[martha]

Thank you so much for this inf. I hate he is not coming back sooner. I just think there was a lot to this case we did not know. I wonder if his mother and daddy has got to go down and see him. I bet he will always fight coming back to the usa. jmho:rose:

[gaelicpeas]

[QUOTE=nuttintodo;12265007]And in news on the DNA front:

Federal investigators have property that contains Laurean's DNA, but were waiting to perform a paternity test when Laurean returns to North Carolina to ensure a clean sample...

However, Ciccarelli told The Daily News on Friday that if the extradition process drags on, NCIS will consider serving a search warrant through Mexican authorities to get a DNA sample from Laurean.

"We need to get this critical investigative step taken care of," Ciccarelli said of the paternity test.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_59998___article.html/extradition_attorney.html

(respectfully snipped)

Hi Nuttin - so it appears, or at least to me, that no one knows the paternity results according to this statement by Ciccarelli. Am I mis-reading this?

[IvySterling]

[QUOTE=nuttintodo;12265007]And in news on the DNA front:

Federal investigators have property that contains Laurean's DNA, but were waiting to perform a paternity test when Laurean returns to North Carolina to ensure a clean sample...

However, Ciccarelli told The Daily News on Friday that if the extradition process drags on, NCIS will consider serving a search warrant through Mexican authorities to get a DNA sample from Laurean.

"We need to get this critical investigative step taken care of," Ciccarelli said of the paternity test.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_59998___article.html/extradition_attorney.html

(respectfully snipped)

Hi Nuttin - so it appears, or at least to me, that no one knows the paternity results according to this statement by Ciccarelli. Am I mis-reading this?

I think the clean sample is what they'll need in court to remove all doubt of results.

[henry]

good morning . . .

oh crap . . . was just able to get into jdnews & lkay's blog (it's still taking forever to load) . . . lkay posted an update last nite that i wish i hadn't read . . . quote:

Another thing I meant to say is that McNeil said he thinks the Mexican government looks at life without parole (the only sentence allowable for first-degree murder in N.C.) as cruel and unusual punishment. So he doesn’t see the Mexican high court allowing Laurean to be extradited at all.

Comment by Lindell Kay — October 12, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

[martha]

Thanks Henry, I so wanted to know what really happened in this case but it looks like we may never know. I guess cl thinks his best hope is to stay in mexico. I wonder if any of his family gets to see him down there. He may have a lot of family down there too. If they don;t bring him back to the usa will he have a trial in mexico?
The last picture of him I saw he really looked bad. I bet he don;t want to face the military courts. jmho:rose:

[nuttintodo]

[QUOTE=nuttintodo;12265007]And in news on the DNA front:

Federal investigators have property that contains Laurean's DNA, but were waiting to perform a paternity test when Laurean returns to North Carolina to ensure a clean sample...

However, Ciccarelli told The Daily News on Friday that if the extradition process drags on, NCIS will consider serving a search warrant through Mexican authorities to get a DNA sample from Laurean.

"We need to get this critical investigative step taken care of," Ciccarelli said of the paternity test.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_59998___article.html/extradition_attorney.html

(respectfully snipped)

Hi Nuttin - so it appears, or at least to me, that no one knows the paternity results according to this statement by Ciccarelli. Am I mis-reading this?

No, you didn't misread a thing Ms. GPeas. LKay has posted that his "source" (federal-wise) has said the possibility exists that the baby wasn't Laurean's. (And remember she recanted in November 2007 that the baby wasn't his.)

Just my opinion here but I agree with Ivy, NCIS wants a clean sample and it's easier to get the sample directly from Laurean than attempting to obtain some of his DNA sample that's stored in the military databank in Rockville, Md.

Hope you are doing well! LTNS.

[GentleBreeze]

[QUOTE=gaelicpeas;12265986]

No, you didn't misread a thing Ms. GPeas. LKay has posted that his "source" (federal-wise) has said the possibility exists that the baby wasn't Laurean's. (And remember she recanted in November 2007 that the baby wasn't his.)

Just my opinion here but I agree with Ivy, NCIS wants a clean sample and it's easier to get the sample directly from Laurean than attempting to obtain some of his DNA sample that's stored in the military databank in Rockville, Md.

Hope you are doing well! LTNS.

Well my goodness what a nice surprise. LTNS Nuttin!:seeya:

Well I cant believe they would wait that long to know their case evidence. A clean sample can certainly be obtained from a toothbrush, hairbrush or even from the steering wheel on his truck. It no longer takes much to get a full DNA sample like it once did. Forensics are getting more fine tuned everyday and really I think if Gabriel is not his child then it will change their theory of the case.

The only thing that I can think of is they did run the sample and it came back not his and they now want to make sure that the profile they have already done is matching up with what they will take from him when he returns, whenever the heck that will be.

For LKs inside sources to even say that then they have to have something (i.e. dna sample) to bring them to that possible conclusion.

JMO tho.

[GentleBreeze]

Thanks Henry, I so wanted to know what really happened in this case but it looks like we may never know. I guess cl thinks his best hope is to stay in mexico. I wonder if any of his family gets to see him down there. He may have a lot of family down there too. If they don;t bring him back to the usa will he have a trial in mexico?
The last picture of him I saw he really looked bad. I bet he don;t want to face the military courts. jmho:rose:

Hi Martha!:rose:

Keep the faith.

We will get there sooner or later. He will come back to stand trial and maybe it wont take a year to get him back.

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Wow - LWOP is considered cruel and unusual punishment for a double murder? Mother and baby almost ready to be born? I wonder what Mexico considers reasonable punishment for such a crime in their country.
:shrug:

Well unfortunately Snow even in the State of NC he would not be charged with the death of Gabriel. They don't have that law.

imoo

[martha]

Hi Martha!:rose:

Keep the faith.

We will get there sooner or later. He will come back to stand trial and maybe it wont take a year to get him back.

imooHi honey, I sure hope it don;t take so long. I would love to hear or watch that trial. I would really like to know what happened and if he had help. :rose:

[nuttintodo]

Well unfortunately Snow even in the State of NC he would not be charged with the death of Gabriel. They don't have that law.

imoo

I am beyond anger and disbelief that NC hasn't forged ahead in broadening our fetal homicide law. As it stands now, the baby would have had to taken its first breath outside of the womb in order to constitute a double murder charge.

There have been several attempts to update/change the fetal homicide law, but none have been successful as of yet.

One would think with all the murders of pregnant women in the last several years that NC would move ahead with the times. How many more murders of pregnant women in NC will it take for this change to happen?

Hey g/f LTNS! Hope all is well. :seeya:

[henry]

hey nuttintodo . . . any reasons given why they're not passing it?

for the record . . . mary did an interview on the today show on 10/16/08. there's also a good narrative update

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27213272/

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Ok guys..what is the status of his extradicion??,,I heard weeks ago he would be returned....Man oh man....!!If and when he gets back on American Soil..what is the time frame for trial dates??..I'll just bet its another few years..Hopefully it will be behind bars..I guess thats all I can say..I just hope for accountability..and justice and hopefully Cesar's wife is held accountable too..But, what do I know??

LMS:punch:

[martha]

I don;t get any news on this case where I live in miss. It still breaks my heart to look at the picture of ML and know her death was so uncalled for. That sweet baby died for nothing. Now they say if he is not brought back to the usa he could be let loose in mexico and live a normal life. Boy I know that must tear the heart out of Mary. As a mother I just know she is really in bad shape over this case and losing her daughter and grandbaby and that cl will never be punished for it.jmho:rose:

[martha]

Oh Martha I simply do not believe he will never be punished for it. I really believe US justice will get him, meanwhile he can rot in a Mexican prison. I can't belive that Mexico wants him out running around among the women there.
Or, if all else fails "God will get him for that!". (remember Maude - way back before Golden Girls?)
Thank you I am with you I hope he gets punished for what he has done and you or right he will not get away with it because God will see to that. The only time I ever seen Maude was on the golden girls. I hope someone will let me know when they bring him back to the usa.:rose:

[lonetraveler]

I am beyond anger and disbelief that NC hasn't forged ahead in broadening our fetal homicide law. As it stands now, the baby would have had to taken its first breath outside of the womb in order to constitute a double murder charge.

There have been several attempts to update/change the fetal homicide law, but none have been successful as of yet.

One would think with all the murders of pregnant women in the last several years that NC would move ahead with the times. How many more murders of pregnant women in NC will it take for this change to happen?

Hey g/f LTNS! Hope all is well. :seeya:

----

I live about fifty miles from Jacksonville, NC where the murder occurred. NC makes a lot of people angry about the lack of laws to protect women and children. Yesterday, a newborn baby girl was found dead in a waste dumpster by the garbage man. LE suspects who put the baby into the dumpster. I can guess that nothing will be done about it. The baby was full term with no abnormalities. What a shame. All the mother had to do was take it to a safe haven.

[crymeariver2006]

Here's a bit of "new" news:

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=797

A high-ranking government official confirmed to me tonight that the Marine Corps has approved Christina Laurean’s leave request to visit her husband Cesar Laurean who is in a Mexican jail awaiting word on his extradition.

From Lindell's blog at JDNews.com

[martha]

Thank you crym where I live I dont get any news on this case. I so want to know what happenes in this case. I will never forget ml and her baby.I hope Tina takes his little girl to see him. The child is to young to understand what has happened and I am sure she still loves her dad.jmho:rose:

[crymeariver2006]

Thank you crym where I live I dont get any news on this case. I so want to know what happenes in this case. I will never forget ml and her baby.I hope Tina takes his little girl to see him. The child is to young to understand what has happened and I am sure she still loves her dad.jmho:rose:

Hi Martha!

The only news I get (and I live in NC) is from periodically checking Lindell's blog.

No word on if she is taking the little girl with her, I think most of the comments lean towards if Christina will even come back to NC and whether the trip is mainly so they can "get their stories straight" prior to his return to NC.

My question is "Why now?" Why is she just now going to see him?

:shrug:

[martha]

You or so right crym, It may be just so they can get their story togeather. I think tina knew what happened to ml from the very first. I am not sure but it may end up she was in on it. I just don;t know what kind of person could kill a young lady and her baby. It just breaks my heart everytime I look at ML picture. Maybe one day there will be justice for ml and her baby. jmho:rose:

[henry]

hmmmm . . . curious about what dadewey will say this morning? before it's asked, as of this time :), there's no indication that it will be televised, but that could change . . . snip from local papers

We're told the news conference is not about the extradition process, but other recent developments that may have an impact on the case.

The news conference is set for 11:00 a.m.

http://www.witn.com/news/headlines/33938964.html

also an article about dick mcneil and updates to this case . . .

A plaque sitting on Dick McNeil's loft office bookshelf reads: "Don't ask if my client committed the offense, ask if he received a fair trial."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/mcneil_60511___article.html/district_attorney.html

[martha]

Thank you Henry for this up date. It sure looks like he has the best lawyer he can get. Sounds like he may make fun of Brown stick. now where I live and when I was a child the older people believed in taking a forked stick like that to find water under ground and that would be where they would dig a well. I know that sounds crazy but they did it all the time. now no one dig a well ha. I really don;t know if cl will ever be back in the usa. have a good day.jmho:rose:

[henry]

video link to yesterday's press conference is now working . . . much more info here than what was reported in the papers . . . sadly, dadewey can't even get xtina's last name right . . .

Web only: Authorities discuss Mexico trip by accused Marine's wife

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3909654/