Caylee Anthony 09-10-08 afternoon/evening thread

[nutterbutter]

new thread is ready as we have almost reach our thousand on morning thread.Lot of good posts today and good posters.
:rose: for Caylee.

[spiritwolf46]

Thanks for the new thread! I am going to beddy by for a little while but will be back. Now you all, don't type too fast or I will NEVER catch up!

have a terrific afternoon all and I pray that Caylee will be found today.

:rose: FOR CAYLEE

[FrankieBones1]

Good afternoon, folks. Looks like it is almost time for a new thread as the other on is going to hit 1,000 posts soon.

[FrankieBones1]

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[nutterbutter]

OH! I beat the crowds! Nothing new eh? No new arrests? :shrug: I do hope LE is building a solid case before they charge her. Ughhh.

LB
I just phoned my daughter that works at Jacksonville sheriffs office,she says any check over $300.00 is a felony and also a felony if it is more than one check that adds up to more than $300.00.So any check over $300.00 in Florida is a felony.thats per my daughter so I will say moo.

[Tiger]

new thread is ready as we have almost reach our thousand on morning thread.Lot of good posts today and good posters.
:rose: for Caylee.

Thank you:seeya:

[purplepoints]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

[kakax]

Good afternoon, folks. Looks like it is almost time for a new thread as the other on is going to hit 1,000 posts soon.



Thanks Frankie :seeya:

[steffaroob4]

I think we have two. I'm still getting used to maneuvering my way through the board. :seeya:

I do love the new boards, I do have some small issues, but I am working around them.
I wonder if Baez will take casey to the jail for the new charges.

[5boxersmom]

Fox News about new charges coming up.


Caylee:rose:

[nana6]

Thank you Frankie. What is new? Anything important with the case? I have not been well last night or today so I have been unable to keep up/ I sure hope this all ends soon and they find our little angel Caylee.

[AustinsMama]

Fox News about new charges coming up.


Caylee:rose:


Can you please give us an update? I'm at work and don't have access.

THANK YOU! :)

[Motomom]

Anyone have the new sub-total of Casey's estimated time to serve for all charges up to today's date?

Last count I think was 17 years. Did today's new charges add another 5 or more?

Anyone?

Hopefully she'll get the max for them all and get them stacked.

[steffaroob4]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

Did you read the transcript from Ryan Palsey, he mentioned caseys habit of one-upping him. It was very interesting.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[st777jo]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

[day2day]

Cindy Anthony told Eyewitness News she wanted to work with the homeowners' association. She said she and her family had been writing down license plate tag numbers of protesters so they could eventually be turned over to authorities in hopes of filing trespassing charges.

I guess in between the thousands of tips she receives ..she runs to the window to jot down license plate numbers..GMAFB. Pffft...
http://www.wftv.com/news/17440866/detail.html

jmo

[steffaroob4]

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

You are right, I have heard kids use that for their grandmas.
I never did hear what caylee called her gamma, my kids use Nana.

[day2day]

Anyone have the new sub-total of Casey's estimated time to serve for all charges up to today's date?

Last count I think was 17 years. Did today's new charges add another 5 or more?

Anyone?

If convicted, Anthony's charges -- one grand theft count, three fraud counts and six forgery counts -- could mean 50 years in prison.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html

[charm7]

I just heard on FOX new charges were laid on Casey today. Was she arrested again?

[day2day]

If convicted, Anthony's charges -- one grand theft count, three fraud counts and six forgery counts -- could mean 50 years in prison.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html

[Boxer]

huh? wow, I didn't know that. Been off line for 2-3 days, broken computer and sick family. Trying to play catch up.


It's temporary while they wait for some water to go down. At least that's the last I heard but I've been at work for the past couple days

[nannigranni]

Did you read the transcript from Ryan Palsey, he mentioned caseys habit of one-upping him. It was very interesting.

Haven't read it - where did you find it? If in the 400 pgs of docs could you advise the page #, please. TYIA.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[crymeariver2006]

I guess in between the thousands of tips she receives ..she runs to the window to jot down license plate numbers..GMAFB. Pffft...
http://www.wftv.com/news/17440866/detail.html

jmo

Yes, when my grandaughter is missing/presumed dead and my youngest child is currently out on bond while the felonies are piling up, my husband is shoving little old ladies into the street, and my son is tearing up signs and taking water away from dogs (and both are caught on camera) I always take the time to write down license numbers of the cars driving by my house.

Doesn't everyone?

:rolleyes:

[steffaroob4]

Haven't read it - where did you find it? If in the 400 pgs of docs could you advise the page #, please. TYIA.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080376/Casey-Anthony-documents-released-part-3

See if you can open this, he is page 1.

[day2day]

Won't happen. Couda, woulda, shoulda. Her parents obviously won't file charges against her.

Her parents don't have to press charges. This is what she faces for what she has done to friend Amy. JMO...

[johnielee333]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

i lit one. thanks for keeping it going !

a :rose: for Caylee.

[cutiepatootie61]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.

[Broderick]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html

Any defense attorney will bargain this down to one or a couple of charges so this dream of 50 years for fraud is pointless. She may serve some time for them, and in addition some time for the child neglect etc but not 50 years. Maybe 1 or 2 with good behavior.

They have time, perhaps even years, to file homicide or similar charges. That is where real time will be spent.

[ginky41]

Her parents don't have to press charges. This is what she faces for what she has done to friend Amy. JMO...


Hi day, I'm just trying to catch up a bit here.

I saw that Bratlings added her as a friend on Facebook, do we know if Casey ever responded to her post? TIA.

:seeya:

[kitty1182]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.

Same here..LOL

[martha]

Tim is no longer searching for Caylee (temporarily). He's in Aruba right now. What is tim doing in aruba now? I have not heard he was there.

[nutterbutter]

Psssssssst, this thread has the wrong date on it.....can you edit? Plus, there are two afternoon threads going on....
It would not let me edit the date.I already had this thread going and posted before other thread was started.lol
moo

[johnielee333]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.

yeah me either. i'm on both.

[day2day]

Hi day, I'm just trying to catch up a bit here.

I saw that Bratlings added her as a friend on Facebook, do we know if Casey ever responded to her post? TIA.

:seeya:


Hey there ginky!! I read that also..I don't know if she has or not. Amazing..isn't it?! :chicken:

[snap4]

Won't happen. Couda, woulda, shoulda. Her parents obviously won't file charges against her.


Did you read the article or just comment on one you didn't read? It is charges brought on by her freind...
to quote part of the article...

The charges range from grand theft and fraud to forging checks. The alleged victim in all of the new charges was Anthony's friend, Amy Huizenga.

[crymeariver2006]

Sounds like she may not be re-arrested afterall. :shrug:


Might be the article; other articles posted earlier on the other thread indicate there is probably going to be another arrest in the next few days for more economic/financial crimes.

:shrug:

All of these charges were already in the previous arrest records that we got a while back. Baez will now have to enter a formal plea (which he will probably do in writing again.)

In any event, I, for one, cannot believe Amy is the only victim of Casey's "spending spree". No way, no how.

[nana6]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.

Hi, I think we should just stay here on this one:shrug:

[steffaroob4]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.

I only see one, we do have people still on morning thread, correct me if I am wrong.

[nana6]

Hey there ginky!! I read that also..I don't know if she has or not. Amazing..isn't it?! :chicken:

OMG is she still going on facebook?

[johnielee333]

i'm on both threads.

[Fallen Angel]

What is tim doing in aruba now? I have not heard he was there.

not sure i can post the link though.

Natalee Holloway Investigation: Exclusive … Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch in Aruba to meet With ALE/Prosecutor … New Witness That Puts Joran & Paulus Van der Sloot Near Ponds on 5/30/05

[bluwaters]

Hi, I think we should just stay here on this one:shrug:
I agree. The date is incorrect on the other afternoon thread.

[Broderick]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html

Any defense attorney will bargain this down to one or a couple of charges so this dream of 50 years for fraud is pointless. She may serve some time for them, and in addition some time for the child neglect etc but not 50 years. Maybe 1 or 2 with good behavior.

They have time, perhaps even years, to file homicide or similar charges. That is where real time will be spent.

[cutiepatootie61]

Hi, I think we should just stay here on this one:shrug:

Yeah, I'll hang with you, I'm getting motion sickness from the back and forth. Eventually they'll be merged right? and we'll be one big snippy family again;)

[nana6]

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO:)

[Fallen Angel]

would be wonderful if Tim could find Natalee and Caylee :(

[day2day]

OMG is she still going on facebook?

I believe she add Bratling VERY early this mornin --like 3 am est? IIRC?!

[crymeariver2006]

Any defense attorney will bargain this down to one or a couple of charges so this dream of 50 years for fraud is pointless. She may serve some time for them, and in addition some time for the child neglect etc but not 50 years. Maybe 1 or 2 with good behavior.

They have time, perhaps even years, to file homicide or similar charges. That is where real time will be spent.

Make that "any defense attorney with a brain in his head" would have already begun discussions with the state.

[day2day]

would be wonderful if Tim could find Natalee and Caylee :(

Yes it would be. I had not heard he was going to Aruba. News to me! I did hear he had a fundraiser the 13th. jmo

[Broderick]

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO:)


The only regret I see in these people is the 911 calls. It was done to one up the pressure (power struggle) but Cindy "talked" too much and has had to backtrack ever since.

[nana6]

Yeah, I'll hang with you, I'm getting motion sickness from the back and forth. Eventually they'll be merged right? and we'll be one big snippy family again;)

Snippy it seems to be already!!!

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.
So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

[shelbar53]

Question. At the bond hearing cindy stated she was aware of the nanny for a few years. If the nanny doesnt exist, LE file charges for obstruction or somehow being complicit with the lie?

[snap4]

You don't file charges against someone that you have give "permission" to use your car.... of your credit cards, etc. As I mentioned in the morning thread, a family member of mine took $60,000 out of her grand parents account, but charges were never filed.

LE only has so much authority if no one "presses charges". JMO.


You still don't get it do you? Did you read the article or just comment on one you didn't read? It is charges brought on by her freind...
to quote part of the article...

The charges range from grand theft and fraud to forging checks. The alleged victim in all of the new charges was Anthony's friend, Amy Huizenga.
AND YES SHE IS PRESSING CHARGES

[tiny paw-prints]

Is Josh Duckett still planning to have a fund raiser in Tampa for all missing children this weekend? Does anyone know?

[Kathlb]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

I keep forgetting to thank you blu for your dedication and for the reminders each day!! :rose:

[johnielee333]

You don't file charges against someone that you have give "permission" to use your car.... of your credit cards, etc. As I mentioned in the morning thread, a family member of mine took $60,000 out of her grand parents account, but charges were never filed.

LE only has so much authority if no one "presses charges". JMO.


the state can pick up the charges even when someone doesnt press charges or someone presses charges & then drops the charges. thats what happened to me back in 1984. it might be different now tho.

[steffaroob4]

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.


You can think that, I believe that Cindy thought casey was hiding caylee from her. Her 911 call was nothing more than a power struggle to get casey to tell where Caylee was, I do not think Cindy thought Caylee was in need of being found when she first called 911. That said, it has been 2 months, she called LE and she called TES, she asked people to look on their computers, so in short, she is wanting other people to find caylee, when the key to the mystery is sleeping in her home.

[desmom]

In the morning thread, there seem to be some confusion about the Grand Theft Charge. Maybe this will help:

Bringing this over from the morning thread re: Grand Theft:


Charges http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

Count 1. Grand Theft 3rd Degree

"...between the 7th day of July, 2008 and the 11th day of July, 2008, in said county and State did in violation of Florida Statue 812.014(2)(c)(1), pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, knowingly obtain or use, or endeavor to obtain or use United States Money Current, of a value of Three Hundred Dollars ($300.00) or more, the property of another, to wit: AH, as owner or custodian thereof, with the intent to temporarily or permanently deprive said owner or custodian of a right to the property or a benefit therefrom, or to appropriate the property to the defendant's own use or to the use of a person not entitled thereto."

FL Statues http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...2/titl0812.htm

812.014(2)(c)(1) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.

[WillowInFlight]

The only regret I see in these people is the 911 calls. It was done to one up the pressure (power struggle) but Cindy "talked" too much and has had to backtrack ever since.

ITA, in one of the phone calls NG played last night, it was either the first or the second, you could hear the defiance in Cindy's voice, like she was challenging Casey.

[Broderick]

Maybe the Three Strikes Law will come into play for Miss Anthony...

This is a series of charges that will end up being negotiated imo. The pipe dream of 50 years for miscellaneous fraud charges will never happen.

[Boxer]

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo



lol, I see you've forgotten nothing;)

The only people who have tried to help this child since the evening this 911 call was made are strangers to Caylee. It would be nice if her blood family put some effort into finding her so she can come home to some nice foster family.....

MOO

[day2day]

Question. At the bond hearing cindy stated she was aware of the nanny for a few years. If the nanny doesnt exist, LE file charges for obstruction or somehow being complicit with the lie?

Was she under oath?

[kitty1182]

George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet? :rolleyes:

Don't think he has....LOL

[cassidy]

ITA, in one of the phone calls NG played last night, it was either the first or the second, you could hear the defiance in Cindy's voice, like she was challenging Casey.

Yep. I think Cindy started the ball rolling with an "IF you don't tell me where Caylee is right now, I'm calling the police and having you arrested for stealing. THEY"LL make you tell me!" (imaginary conversation). and it all blew up in her face. I'll bet that Cindy will regret that call for the rest of her life.

JMO

[johnielee333]

Depends on what the charges are. If, say for example, you say someone stole from your credit card. It is up to YOU, as the credit card holder whether you will "accept" those charges and pay for them yourself. So, in effect, LE has no jurisdiction if you agree to pay the charges yuorself.

yeah youre probably right. the charges the state picked up on my case was agg. assault.

[Peach]

You still don't get it do you? Did you read the article or just comment on one you didn't read? It is charges brought on by her freind...
to quote part of the article...

The charges range from grand theft and fraud to forging checks. The alleged victim in all of the new charges was Anthony's friend, Amy Huizenga.
AND YES SHE IS PRESSING CHARGES

The state takes over, I believe if over a certain amt. Now I know Amy pressed charges, but I also think Cindy provided LE with all info pertinent to Casey stealing money from them and GG as well.

[WillowInFlight]

George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet? :rolleyes:
Now you know better than that, If George had done that or even told LE were Caylee was, Caylee would have been in danger. Oh wait, they said from day one she was in danger.:rolleyes:

They have done nothing but had T shirts made up and drove around with a roaming billboard.

[snap4]

QUOTE=MicheleL;12100489]George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

GOOD ONE!:beer:

[newbiee]

I believe she add Bratling VERY early this mornin --like 3 am est? IIRC?!

do you have that link?

[shelbar53]

Was she under oath?

oh yes she was under oath, she was at the courthouse up in the witness chair. i watched the video of it somewhere and i thought she was rather arrogrant with some answers

[day2day]

We know she didn't buy the chloroform with Amy's checking account..sooo that narrows it down a bit. I wonder if that was something she spent her grandmas money on?! Or maybe George or Cindy's credit card? :eek:

jmo

[Armchairdet]

I can understand the grandparents not wanting to believe that Caylee is no longer alive. But even if Caylee was kidnapped, it is always a possibility when someone takes a child that they will hurt the child. It just stands to reason that a search would be done. I am not saying the grandparents need to be out there searching, but it seems Cindy was not very nice to the people that came to help.

There are two possibilities. Well, one as far as I am concerned. But anyway, either Casey did something to Caylee, or some unknown person has/had her.

I also don't believe that grandparents that seem that controlling of situations like people near their lawn, or walking outside with signs are going to sit back at home and make no attempt to address the supposed kidnappers.

[MichelleP]

Any defense attorney will bargain this down to one or a couple of charges so this dream of 50 years for fraud is pointless. She may serve some time for them, and in addition some time for the child neglect etc but not 50 years. Maybe 1 or 2 with good behavior.

They have time, perhaps even years, to file homicide or similar charges. That is where real time will be spent.


I think she'll get more than one or two years for those charges even if her attorney manages to get a couple of them thrown out.

[tiny paw-prints]

George stated that he knew where the kidnappers
were and that they were being watched ..

Has he gone to get Caylee from them yet? :rolleyes:


I think Casey "misplaced" little Caylee from the trunk of the car to the backyard and the "kidnappers" (Lee, George, Cindy) took Caylee to "hide" her from Casey and the public. JMO

[day2day]

oh yes she was under oath, she was at the courthouse up in the witness chair. i watched the video of it somewhere and i thought she was rather arrogrant with some answers

Oh yea if she lies under oath she could be in big trouble. :no:

[shelbar53]

Maybe the nursing home or state will file "elder abuse", Just because cindy paid back the account and the ggm refused to press charges doesnt mean the state wont. imo

[dreamtime]

Was she under oath?

_______________
Cindy was under oath and has always said that she thought Zanny was the nanny. As did other people around Casey. It is Casey's lie about the nanny, not Cindy's.

[MichelleP]

Make that "any defense attorney with a brain in his head" would have already begun discussions with the state.

Didn't she already plead not guilty for child neglect? Don't know about the other charges.

[WinnieLeigh7]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?

I've thought about that too.

I actually have a "daycare worker" however, I use to have an individual who "babysat" and was thus the babysitter.


I agree, in my terminology, nanny refers to one that lives with the family and is way more than a "babysitter"

A babysitter watches your child for you to go to work, or out for a short time. A nanny is basically a second mom, who does the primary caregiving, if that makes sense.


Which would make sense with Casey's statements of the "nanny" taking Caylee to all these places.

Regardless, IMO, Casey was just trying to make herself sound and appear more sophisticated.

[snap4]

The state takes over, I believe if over a certain amt. Now I know Amy pressed charges, but I also think Cindy provided LE with all info pertinent to Casey stealing money from them and GG as well.

YES but these charges are ONLY related to AMY no one else. THere may be other chares they have not filed yet regarding other pople but these are only about AMY. SO all this arguing over C's parents dropping the charges are mute because they have nothing to do with it.

[Broderick]

I think Casey "misplaced" little Caylee from the trunk of the car to the backyard and the "kidnappers" (Lee, George, Cindy) took Caylee to "hide" her from Casey and the public. JMO

Touche. Thus, Casey really doesn't know where Caylee is because as far as she is concerned she left her in the park, which is code for the backyard after the car smelled too bad. I bet she wishes someone stole the car as might have been the intention by leaving it where it was left with purse in tow.

[True2Blues]

oh yes she was under oath, she was at the courthouse up in the witness chair. i watched the video of it somewhere and i thought she was rather arrogrant with some answers

I agree, Cindy is extremely arrogant. It seems to be a family trait. So does lying and I believe no one in that family has any compunction about doing so under oath, because they think they are above the law.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I don't know about any where else or anyone, but I called my grandmother Nanny. And my kids call my mom Nanny.

True...My kids have a Nanny (Daddy's mom)

a Granny, Papa, Opa, etc. etc.

[Peach]

I can understand the grandparents not wanting to believe that Caylee is no longer alive. But even if Caylee was kidnapped, it is always a possibility when someone takes a child that they will hurt the child. It just stands to reason that a search would be done. I am not saying the grandparents need to be out there searching, but it seems Cindy was not very nice to the people that came to help.

There are two possibilities. Well, one as far as I am concerned. But anyway, either Casey did something to Caylee, or some unknown person has/had her.

I also don't believe that grandparents that seem that controlling of situations like people near their lawn, or walking outside with signs are going to sit back at home and make no attempt to address the supposed kidnappers.

Sad thing is, the only thing they CAN control right now is people in their yard. They have lost control of everything. Surprising they can even get out of bed in the morning. Guess they learned they can't control their daughter...nor could they ever.

[shelbar53]

_______________
Cindy was under oath and has always said that she thought Zanny was the nanny. As did other people around Casey. It is Casey's lie about the nanny, not Cindy's.

Cindy said she was aware of the nanny for a few years....

[Armchairdet]

Maybe the nursing home or state will file "elder abuse", Just because cindy paid back the account and the ggm refused to press charges doesnt mean the state wont. imo

I said that yesterday. They may have no choice in the matter. It may be that they have to file charges because they are responsible for the person in their care.

[Syd'sMiMi]

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

Touche', very well said.

[day2day]

Thanks for showing some sense. The case will be thrown out of court if the family refuses to formally file charges. LE only has so much "power" thank God!

IF you are talkin bout Amy's money. Casey is in trouble. IF Amy wants her money back she HAS to prosecute her. What makes you think Amy wants to donate $700.00 to Casey?...:shrug:

[Peach]

YES but these charges are ONLY related to AMY no one else. THere may be other chares they have not filed yet regarding other pople but these are only about AMY. SO all this arguing over C's parents dropping the charges are mute because they have nothing to do with it.

No need to yell with the caps. I get it.:no:

[WillowInFlight]

Catch up.

Amy pressed charges. :)
THANK YOU!!:seeya:

[True2Blues]

Thanks for showing some sense. The case will be thrown out of court if the family refuses to formally file charges. LE only has so much "power" thank God!

I believe the places where Casey cashed bogus checks and the bank she defrauded can probably press charges. Whether the money was replaced or not, a crime was committed on them.

[5boxersmom]

Fox said 10 counts against Casey. Baez says he wanted to take Casey to jail, in ciivilized manner. Doesn't want LE pulling up rearresting her, LE said fine. Baez said LE said that last time and didn't do it.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Cindy said she was aware of the nanny for a few years....


If i remember correctly. That statement contradicted another statement she made about knowing Zanny. :read:

[crymeariver2006]

Didn't she already plead not guilty for child neglect? Don't know about the other charges.

She did. Baez entered it in writing and she was not required to be in court for that.

The same procedure will follow for this new round of official charges.

[Loves2Read]

DG that sems to be true, but I think that is about where it stops for Cindy helping at least to the public eye. I think her calls to 911 were real. I also tend to think that when she found out the real truth about what happened she closed down. IMO:)

I am pretty sure you are not alone in your opinion nana6!

[newbiee]

Catch up.

Amy pressed charges. :)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bank of America and Target also wanted to press charges.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

Yes, she called 911 and when the police arrived she proceeded to lie and give the wrong date as to when she last saw Caylee alive. She also managed to wash away evidence that may have been on casey's slacks found in the death car.

Ladyhawk and Shell gave the correct answer which was both cynthia and george searched the four sheds and grounds, inlcuding under the playhouse for Caylee's body. That's what they did. Since that search tho, they personally have done nothing, however they have whined about what everyone else should be doing.

IMO

[snap4]

thanks for showing some sense. The case will be thrown out of court if the family refuses to formally file charges. Le only has so much "power" thank god!

it is not charges brought on by the family it is charges brought on by amy wow! How many times do i have to say this!!!!

Dunnie you should have read the article instead of yapping about something you know nothing about

[Ladyhawk]

How did we get 2 afternoon threads going, this a pain in my big dupah to switch back and forth, not sure where I belong.
Stick with this one Cutie....the other one is dated 9-10-08 so it can't possibly be for this afternoon. :)

[beemeup]

K-so do i have this right? There are more charges to come later today. That part i get. Scanning quickly to catch up-will she be re-arrested or not. Anyone know for sure thru confirmation? :rose:

[cuddlyrunner]

OMG is she still going on facebook?


She added me too. I'd sent a friend request about a week ago. I think she added a lot of people last night. I sent a message(no reply), wrote on her wall(no reply) and attempted a chat (no reply).

I will let you all know if I hear anything lol!

[Peach]

it is not charges brought on by the family it is charges brought on by amy wow! How many times do i have to say this!!!!

Dunnie you should have read the article instead of yapping about something you know nothing about

You dont have to say it anymore. We all understand you. No one cares.

[nana6]

So unless the public is allowed into the Anthonys personal lives, gawking for knowledge that doesn't belong to them - then it's just to be assumed that they're doing nothing to help find Caylee.

The Anthonys asked the public into their personal lives when they told the public to get off of their azzess and look for Caylee. When the public is asked by the family then they (the public) will be following or gawking for knowlegdge as you put it. To be expected IMO

[True2Blues]

Cindy said she was aware of the nanny for a few years....


Cindy lied (Hardly a shock, I know). She couldn't describe her and had no number to contact her. She knows of one non-imaginary person who did some baby sitting, but that's a different (actual) person.

[WinnieLeigh7]

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo



:beer: Not Moo, I gotta lean with you there! so no MOO, Lets do MOOT (too)

even though that completely contradicts the second O, I'm just going to scream denial and make it ok.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Fox said 10 counts against Casey. Baez says he wanted to take Casey to jail, in ciivilized manner. Doesn't want LE pulling up rearresting her, LE said fine. Baez said LE said that last time and didn't do it.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Well if she is surendered by her attourney knowing the warrant is filed. He doesn't have to wait on LE to do anything. IMO he is doing his best to make LE look bad but there are things he can do to avoid the scene. If he knew they were going to arrest her the last tim. all he had to do was surrender her himself and there would not have been such a circus at the Anthony home. Not everyone is as stupid as Baez tries to portay or make people believe. JMO

[kakax]

At this point, I just want charges to be brought against Casey for harming her child. If the grandparents are or aren't looking it isn't going to matter in the big scheme of things.

They have the power to put pressure on Casey to talk, but they aren't and I believe it is because they know what will come out of that....it is what it is.

I just pray that LE has enough to eventually charge her with murder -these financial charges discourage me somewhat.

[st777jo]

I definitely agree that when Cindy made that 911 call, she never thought that Casey would hold out for this long, but the fact still remains that Cindy IS the one who put her foot down and denied Casey's plea of 'give me one more day'/ 'we'll go get Caylee tomorrow' - and if Cindy had not stood her ground, no one would ever know that Caylee was missing.

As for Casey sleeping in her home, that's unconditional love of Cindy's daughter, and no matter where Casey may be sleeping, she's either going to come clean with the truth, or not.

Her month+ silence didn't seem to fare much better when she sat in jail.

IMO, someone somewhere would notice Caylee not being around.

And if she were my daughter, knowing she is the only with who knows where Caylee is, her butt would still be sitting in jail.

[True2Blues]

The Anthonys asked the public into their personal lives when they told the public to get off of their azzess and look for Caylee. When the public is asked by the family then they (the public) will be following or gawking for knowlegdge as you put it. To be expected IMO

Too True! Look how they couldn't get enough of being on TV. They sought out the press, went on talk shows, focused National attention on this situation. Now the Nation is looking too close and they're mad.

You Reap what you Sow.

[steffaroob4]

Yes, she called 911 and when the police arrived she proceeded to lie and give the wrong date as to when she last saw Caylee alive. She also managed to wash away evidence that may have been on casey's slacks found in the death car.

Ladyhawk and Shell gave the correct answer which was both cynthia and george searched the four sheds and grounds, inlcuding under the playhouse for Caylee's body. That's what they did. Since that search tho, they personally have done nothing, however they have whined about what everyone else should be doing.

IMO

Sheesh, I forgot they looked under the pavers and under the playhouse, not that I would ever look there for a missing child.
Q for GPs:
What were you looking for under the pavers and playhouse?

[WillowInFlight]

I recall hearing that Caseys Grandmother was VERY upset when she found out that Casey had stolen, forged, money from the account for the assisted living.

Maybe the Grandmother will press charges.

You know, this family needs to have Casey held responsible for the crimes that she has committed. Always covering for her, always dropping charges and not seeing them through, are NOT going to teach Casey the difference between right and wrong.

The crime sprees with OPM (other peoples money) is wrong and illegal.

I wonder if she stole from Tony and his roommates too.

She stole from EVERYONE.
I'm not sure if her grandmother can press charges since Cindy paid all the money back. :shrug:

[kakax]

Catch up.

Remember the reported seventeen years Casey will be facing in prison?

It's now up to fifty years. :beer:

All the info is out there if you choose to seek it out. :)


For those who don't wish to seek it, here it is...


11 a.m.: Prosecutors officially charged Casey Anthony with charges related to $300 in checks stolen from a friend in July.

The 22-year-old is charged with one count grand theft; three counts of fraudulent use of personal identification information; three counts of forgery of a check and two counts of uttering a forged check. Each count is a third-degree felony, which is punishable by up to five years in prison.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091108,0,1513322.story

[shelbar53]

Sworn Testimony

http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/caylee-anthony-courtroom-video-from-bond-hearing/

thanks for that link, im listening to cindy again
sheds some new light on cindys communication style

[True2Blues]

Catch up.

Remember the reported seventeen years Casey will be facing in prison?

It's now up to fifty years. :beer:

All the info is out there if you choose to seek it out. :)

Let's hope the sentences are consecutive. Then they'll know where to find her when they get ready to charge her with murder.

[crymeariver2006]

Fox said 10 counts against Casey. Baez says he wanted to take Casey to jail, in ciivilized manner. Doesn't want LE pulling up rearresting her, LE said fine. Baez said LE said that last time and didn't do it.

jmo

Caylee:rose:


Huh? These aren't new charges. These are the same charges she was arrested for back during the middle of Nancy Grace. Why would he surrender her to the jail when all he needs to do is enter a plea?

:shrug:

[n/t]

Fox said 10 counts against Casey. Baez says he wanted to take Casey to jail, in ciivilized manner. Doesn't want LE pulling up rearresting her, LE said fine. Baez said LE said that last time and didn't do it.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Baez is something else isn't he? Telling LE how to do their jobs. :punch:

[~jomomma~]

Believe me, that's the last thing they want to do. They get bogus checks all the time and happily take their 10% off the top.

:confused:

[steffaroob4]

That's reaaaaaaaaaally a stretch of wild imagination.


So is believing caylee is alive after you look under pavers and a playhouse for her.

[Cookies]

Just stopping by to say hi guys.

~~~Justice for little Caylee~~~:rose::rose::rose:

[Mizzchiff]

Won't happen. Couda, woulda, shoulda. Her parents obviously won't file charges against her.

The money she stole from her ggp account amounts to elder abuse (similar to child abuse) - the state can press charges without permission from the Anthony clan. I see this coming with HRS investigating -- they aren't just investigating the child abuse charges, IMO

[bchand]

Catch up.

Remember the reported seventeen years Casey will be facing in prison?

It's now up to fifty years. :beer:

All the info is out there if you choose to seek it out. :)


You dreamer you.

[Armchairdet]

I also wonder why she left the car at Amscot. The thought amoung many people was the smell. Ok, let's go with that for this post.

I had heard that Cindy drove by that area on her way to work. So if the idea was for Cindy to find it and bring it home, then Casey had to assume the odor would not suprise her mom much.

If she did not want Cindy to see it then putting it somewhere she drove by all the time was silly.

I know it was perhaps out of gas. But even with gas prices as they were, five bucks would have gotten it at least as far as twenty miles from there.

Some people would say maybe she did not have five bucks. But didn't TonE pick her up with bags of groceries?

[Syd'sMiMi]

And don't forget George says the kidnappers are being watched.

[Boxer]

Well if she is surendered by her attourney knowing the warrant is filed. He doesn't have to wait on LE to do anything. IMO he is doing his best to make LE look bad but there are things he can do to avoid the scene. If he knew they were going to arrest her the last tim. all he had to do was surrender her himself and there would not have been such a circus at the Anthony home. Not everyone is as stupid as Baez tries to portay or make people believe. JMO



I personally loved the media circus. It's nearly as cool as the anthony home of wax and the speak no truth hall of fame they all seem to belong to.

[Peach]

You have no idea whether they've done anything else since then, they're not answering to the gawking public, as it should be.

If LE isn't bothered by Cindy washing pants, etc., why should anyone else?

They shouldn't, but that sure won't stop some from perpetuating the hate.

How do you know LE isn't going to do anything with Cindy washing those pants and possibly destroying evidence? You have NO idea what LE has and doesn't. It is bothersome that Cindy continually covers her daughters butt. Except of course, the initial 3 phone calls.

[n/t]

For those who don't wish to seek it, here it is...


11 a.m.: Prosecutors officially charged Casey Anthony with charges related to $300 in checks stolen from a friend in July.

The 22-year-old is charged with one count grand theft; three counts of fraudulent use of personal identification information; three counts of forgery of a check and two counts of uttering a forged check. Each count is a third-degree felony, which is punishable by up to five years in prison.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee-anthony-missing-091108,0,1513322.story



What does uttering a forged check mean? I know it was probably asked and answered before but I forgot. :o

[Rebel Rouzer]

I pressed charges against someone once. That person called LE and asked if there was any way he could avoid being arrested at his workplace. They told him to meet an officer in the parking lot of the police station and turn himself in. They sceduled a time with a police officer to meet in the parking lot and there was no scene at his plce of work. I am sure Baez knows he can do this with Casey as well.

[crymeariver2006]

I'm not sure if her grandmother can press charges since Cindy paid all the money back. :shrug:

That's going to depend, I think, on how she used the account routing numbers. If she made fake checks on the computer, that in an of itself is a crime, if the account did not belong to her.

And we don't know that Cindy paid all the money back. It depends on when Casey stole it. If the fight over Father's Day weekend, or Father's Day, was started with the grandmother telling Cindy what had happened, she wouldn't have had time to cash in the 401k and pay the grandmother before Casey was arrested.

[Boxer]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:


It might in my opinion, if need be, keep her in the jail so that the murder case can be investigated

[beemeup]

I also wonder why she left the car at Amscot. The thought amoung many people was the smell. Ok, let's go with that for this post.

I had heard that Cindy drove by that area on her way to work. So if the idea was for Cindy to find it and bring it home, then Casey had to assume the odor would not suprise her mom much.

If she did not want Cindy to see it then putting it somewhere she drove by all the time was silly.

I know it was perhaps out of gas. But even with gas prices as they were, five bucks would have gotten it at least as far as twenty miles from there.

Some people would say maybe she did not have five bucks. But didn't TonE pick her up with bags of groceries?
That is why i believe somewhere her plan got foiled. I do believe the parents were next. MOO

[lonetraveler]

Tim is no longer searching for Caylee (temporarily). He's in Aruba right now.


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Do you know if Tim being in Aruba have anything to do with Natalie?

[desmom]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bank of America and Target also wanted to press charges.

I believe so.

[kakax]

What does uttering a forged check mean? I know it was probably asked and answered before but I forgot. :o

831.09 Uttering forged bills, checks, drafts, or notes.--Whoever utters or passes or tenders in payment as true, any such false, altered, forged, or counterfeit note, or any bank bill, check, draft, or promissory note, payable to the bearer thereof or to the order of any person, issued as aforesaid, knowing the same to be false, altered, forged, or counterfeit, with intent to injure or defraud any person, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

[Peach]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:


Sure lets them punish her in the meantime, and take time cementing a case against her. That is good enough for me.

[Cookies]

And don't forget George says the kidnappers are being watched.

That's one George-ism I really "like".:rolleyes:

[num1barb]

So is believing caylee is alive after you look under pavers and a playhouse for her.

ITA. They knew that day that there was a reasonable chance that Caylee was dead. Otherwise, WHY would they look under the pavers and playhouse?

[Broderick]

You dreamer you.

The press likes to feed pipe dreams to the masses for consumption purposes.

[WinnieLeigh7]

It might in my opinion, if need be, keep her in the jail so that the murder case can be investigated

I agree!

I want both!!!

I want answers (and justice once we have the answers for Caylee)

AND I want Casey in jail being, I hope, miserable until she gives those answers!! Whatever the 'charges'....
and then paying for her actions once she does!

[Rebel Rouzer]

I personally loved the media circus. It's nearly as cool as the anthony home of wax and the speak no truth hall of fame they all seem to belong to.


lol Boxer. you are such a doll. I understand where you are coming from. i'm just saying Baez excuses don't make any sense if he truly doesn't want the circus at the Anthony home. He could have avoided it the last tiem as well because he knew ahead of time. So he wanted the circus as well to just turn around and chastize the media and LE for how they handled it.
IMO Hugs to you doll

[desmom]

Believe me, that's the last thing they want to do. They get bogus checks all the time and happily take their 10% off the top.


They do things differently here...they do press charges. jmo

[nana6]

Baez is something else isn't he? Telling LE how to do their jobs. :punch:

ITA with you. Just for that alone they should pull up and get her in any scene they would like. I really do not think that the popo have to tippy toe around Casey like and dislikes. She is not the princess she or her family think her to be-not anymore

[WillowInFlight]

and order the public to get off their a$$es to look for Caylee ..
Yep. ;) To some I guess thats doing something.

[Fallen Angel]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.

the sad thing is Casey has talked to her family .......she said She's close, she's safe, she's in danger, she's overseas...............I feel so sorry for George, Cindy and Lee....Casey's the pupet mistress and they are her slaves :( and why do they believe her is my question......

[tiny paw-prints]

That's reaaaaaaaaaally a stretch of wild imagination.


It's only a stretch of wild imagination because most people would not be able to comprehend it. The reality would be over and beyond, stranger things have happened.

Does Cindy think someone is going to steal those "No Trespassing" signs? She probably feels like the public is attempting to "trespass" into her family's Real History. LE is getting close, and that history is probably more threatening to Cindy than a missing Caylee.

[lonetraveler]

I also wonder why she left the car at Amscot. The thought amoung many people was the smell. Ok, let's go with that for this post.

I had heard that Cindy drove by that area on her way to work. So if the idea was for Cindy to find it and bring it home, then Casey had to assume the odor would not suprise her mom much.

If she did not want Cindy to see it then putting it somewhere she drove by all the time was silly.

I know it was perhaps out of gas. But even with gas prices as they were, five bucks would have gotten it at least as far as twenty miles from there.

Some people would say maybe she did not have five bucks. But didn't TonE pick her up with bags of groceries?

-------------------------
Does anyone remember when George and Cindy started their "at home" vacation? If Cindy wasn't working during the time that the car was parked in the Amscot parking lot, she would not have passed it each day on the way to work and therefore would not have seen it, right? Casey most likely knew that her parents were on vacation? I would think so since Cindy stated that she was in phone contact ie., voice or text mgs. during this time.

[kitty1182]

It might in my opinion, if need be, keep her in the jail so that the murder case can be investigated

I agree...

[Armchairdet]

That is why i believe somewhere her plan got foiled. I do believe the parents were next. MOO

Well, if she was trying to get Cindy to see the car and pick it up then the car, and the smell would be in Cindy and Georges custody. She could then in theory report her daughter missing. The daughter she told some friends was with Cindy and George. She also told friends there were problems at the Anthony home. She also told friends she would end up with the home.

IMO

[purplepoints]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:


I definitely want justice for Caylee, I pray they get Casey for her death. With that said, any amount of time spent in jail, for any reason is just deserved.

[5boxersmom]

Huh? These aren't new charges. These are the same charges she was arrested for back during the middle of Nancy Grace. Why would he surrender her to the jail when all he needs to do is enter a plea?

:shrug:


:shrug: That's what was reported on Fox.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

It might in my opinion, if need be, keep her in the jail so that the murder case can be investigated


Agree. And enforcing the idea to Casey that no matter what she will be in jail for a long long time so why not give up where Caylee is. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I agree, Cindy is extremely arrogant. It seems to be a family trait. So does lying and I believe no one in that family has any compunction about doing so under oath, because they think they are above the law.

I agree, she was arrogant and flippant up on that stand answering questions.

Normal people whose granddaughter is missing make law enforcement their best friends. They bend over backwards to cooperate in the investigation. They do not argue and impede the investigation, except if there is something to hide.

I blame the anthonys for not putting all their efforts into protecting Caylee, the most vulnerable person in this nightmare. casey anthony should have come second to that, not the other way around.

IMO

[kitty1182]

If they don't have the evidence now, they never will. JMO.

Never say Never..;)

[Peach]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.

CIndy washing those pants wasn't covering Casey's butt? She saved all the reciepts from her CC's to give to LE but washed a pair of pants that could have had forensic evidence on them...Seriously?

Dramatic....look who's taking DG

You are here day in and day out ragging on people to further your OWN theory...

That is theatrics. Get some sleep.

[nana6]

That's a question that someday, maybe they'll answer, because no one else knows, and pretending to know only perpetuates more hate.

Now really! We are all speculating on a missing person case here!! It's ok to do that and it does NOT take rocket scientist to know why they were home looking under pavers or slabs as they are called

[kakax]

:shrug: That's what was reported on Fox.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I saw on Fox that they stated the new charge was the "grand theft" charge. That was added today supposedly.

[purplepoints]

-------------------------
Does anyone remember when George and Cindy started their "at home" vacation? If Cindy wasn't working during the time that the car was parked in the Amscot parking lot, she would not have passed it each day on the way to work and therefore would not have seen it, right? Casey most likely knew that her parents were on vacation? I would think so since Cindy stated that she was in phone contact ie., voice or text mgs. during this time.

IIRC the vacation was through June 8th, long before she abandoned the car.

[forensicnut]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

Very, very, very good point! Nicely said.

[Loves2Read]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

You are right it does not get Caylee any justice. What it does give to the situation is some place for Casey to be where she won't be tempted to leave and start over with a new persona or kill herself there by taking her secrets with her. This also gives LE more time to find the body, and get all of their evidence tested and the experts lined up.

[Boxer]

If they don't have the evidence now, they never will. JMO.



huh? lots of cases get solved months or years later. someone could come forward at any point, or Caylee can be found...lots of things can happen.

[Broderick]

If they don't have the evidence now, they never will. JMO.

One could gather that they have plenty of evidence. There are thousands here and elsewhere sorting through the limited details released by them daily - all hours of the days and weeks. Law Enforcement doesn't have the numbers in relation, and they are putting the pieces together to give the DA a viable case imo. If they stumble across new evidence it will be added to the enormous list they have. They have only released evidence on the current charges. They have not released anything else beyond a few scraps of leak material.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.



Casey not talking and Cindy "covering her butt", two different things IMO

I actually agree with you in that I don't think Cindy can get Casey to talk...

but on the other hand, I think Cindy knows Casey better than anyone and should see through her lies, not necessarily to know the whole truth, but to know enough that she isn't out there screaming "pizza in the car, the tow company put a body in there after it was towed, etc."

THAT is "covering Casey's butt", or at least an attempt too.


JMO

[Boxer]

I think that to make Casey talk, the family needed to stop giving her the attention she craved.

[Laurieann]

LE owes Baez and Whacky Casey nothing!! They continue to be holed up in his office working on her defense-- while LE is busting their azzes and using resources to find out what happened to Caylee!!

I believe I read on a link upthread or the other thread that they may not re-arrest her after all.

Didn't you mean they are working on her defense FUND?

[~jomomma~]

Yes, it did. But I don't really keep up with that case anymore. Someone else posted he is now back from Aruba. I don't think anything came of his time down there recently. I honestly don't know much other than that.

as far as i know, he is still there

[Syd'sMiMi]

That's a question that someday, maybe they'll answer, because no one else knows, and pretending to know only perpetuates more hate.

What's up with all this hate stuff you keep taking about? I don't think anyone on this board has stated that they hate the Anthony's. Would you please just give that a rest? I'm asking nicely.

I can tell you if I thought I knew who had my GD I would be all over them like ugly on ape. They'd be happy to go to jail to get me off of them. That's what I cannot understand, if George says they know who has her and they are being watched, then why in the he77 don't they have LE or the FBI go and bring her home? Because they don't know who has her and they know she is more than likely no with us any longer.

I know I ranting, but I'm not hating, just angry.

[crymeariver2006]

Actually these financial charges are what's keeping her in the system while LE is building their case, so I'm not discouraged. In one way anyway. Though in another way this does seem to be taking A LOT longer than I expected. If the forensics are as good as some of us think they are, I don't understand not further charging her. As pointed out, a body is NOT needed for a charge of murder. I think, however, LE is probably stumped between murder and accident, and still investigating thoroughly.

The above is me thinking aloud.

True and that's the difference between murder and manslaughter.

If they are able to get felony convictions on the financial charges, even an additional manslaughter conviction should put her away for the rest of her life (IF Florida follows the 3 strikes).

Correct?

[joolz]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

Why do you think they are mutually exclusive? :confused:

[num1barb]

That's a question that someday, maybe they'll answer, because no one else knows, and pretending to know only perpetuates more hate.

"pretending to know"....noooo....not pretending to know. Using reasonable judgement that a 3 y.o. child could not fit under concrete pavers unless the child was buried in the dirt under said pavers. If the child is buried under the dirt under the concrete pavers, it is reasonable judgement to deduce that the child is either dead or will be dead from lack of oxygen.

[Peach]

huh? lots of cases get solved months or years later. someone could come forward at any point, or Caylee can be found...lots of things can happen.

Great post!

Great minds think alike;)

[Cookies]

huh? lots of cases get solved months or years later. someone could come forward at any point, or Caylee can be found...lots of things can happen.


ITA.You never know.

[frances1]

You dont have to say it anymore. We all understand you. No one cares.

I care. Dunnie needs to catch up before arguing. In the case of elder abuse, which has been stated before, the state can choose to press charges, also.

[kakax]

huh? lots of cases get solved months or years later. someone could come forward at any point, or Caylee can be found...lots of things can happen.

I agree, and I also admit to being impatient. I want her charged, yesterday.

I don't know if any of you read this, but another toddler was murdered in this county on Friday night. The boyfriend of the mother was arrested. This isn't their only case. Can you imagine having multiple cases like this?

[sickntired]

She added me too. I'd sent a friend request about a week ago. I think she added a lot of people last night. I sent a message(no reply), wrote on her wall(no reply) and attempted a chat (no reply).

I will let you all know if I hear anything lol!

Wow, I can't even imagine what you posted, interesting if she responds.

[kitty1182]

I think that to make Casey talk, the family needed to stop giving her the attention she craved.

I agree...Just don't talk to her at all and she might finally start saying something...I couldn't stand to look at her in my house if she were my daughter until I got the truth!!

[Peach]

What's up with all this hate stuff you keep taking about? I don't think anyone on this board has stated that they hate the Anthony's. Would you please just give that a rest? I'm asking nicely.

I can tell you if I thought I knew who had my GD I would be all over them like ugly on ape. They'd be happy to go to jail to get me off of them. That's what I cannot understand, if George says they know who has her and they are being watched, then why in the he77 don't they have LE or the FBI go and bring her home? Because they don't know who has her and they know she is more than likely no with us any longer.

I know I ranting, but I'm not hating, just angry.

Yeah DG has unconditional love for the Anthony's and they can do no wrong in her eyes. So we are all the haters.:rolleyes:

[kOOkie1]

I also wonder why she left the car at Amscot. The thought amoung many people was the smell. Ok, let's go with that for this post.

I had heard that Cindy drove by that area on her way to work. So if the idea was for Cindy to find it and bring it home, then Casey had to assume the odor would not suprise her mom much.

If she did not want Cindy to see it then putting it somewhere she drove by all the time was silly.

I know it was perhaps out of gas. But even with gas prices as they were, five bucks would have gotten it at least as far as twenty miles from there.

Some people would say maybe she did not have five bucks. But didn't TonE pick her up with bags of groceries?

...I thought someone mentioned earlier that this was the same morning she called and asked Jessi if she could shower at his apt.?

[Peach]

Actually even Nancy Grace ("The Amazing One" :D) believes that Cindy did not wash those pants knowingly destroying forensic evidence. And apparently LE doesn't either.

I don't care what anyone else thinks. It is what I think. She hurried up and washed them to eliminate the evidence. My opinion. I don't take NG's opinion as my own. You don't know what LE thinks. Have they told you?

[WinnieLeigh7]

huh? lots of cases get solved months or years later. someone could come forward at any point, or Caylee can be found...lots of things can happen.

huh?

LMAO

Okay, seriously, once again...AGREE!

In fact MOST cases of this nature take months before someone is charged and then even longer before convicted.

[Broderick]

Actually even Nancy Grace ("The Amazing One" :D) believes that Cindy did not wash those pants knowingly destroying forensic evidence. And apparently LE doesn't either.


I think Nancy likes to keep her phone lines and cameras open to the Anthonys and to her reps. That is why she treads softly on anything related to them.

[Boxer]

I agree, and I also admit to being impatient. I want her charged, yesterday.

I don't know if any of you read this, but another toddler was murdered in this county on Friday night. The boyfriend of the mother was arrested. This isn't their only case. Can you imagine having multiple cases like this?

I'm sorry about that. It's so sad.

Some young people put strangers into their kids lives so easily...

[True2Blues]

No, it's not elder abuse. LOL

If that money was in a private account, which has been reported, it's then up to Cindy's mother to press charges, and her alone.

No matter WHAT account though, it would never legally be misconstrued as "elder abuse". lol


Stealing and misusing the money of an elderly person is Elder Abuse.

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/elderabuse.html

[MichelleP]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.

One thing she could have done is gave her the boot. So could have her whole family, it would have been much cheaper too, imo.

[Mizzchiff]

You don't file charges against someone that you have give "permission" to use your car.... of your credit cards, etc. As I mentioned in the morning thread, a family member of mine took $60,000 out of her grand parents account, but charges were never filed.

LE only has so much authority if no one "presses charges". JMO.

Yes, but if you call in a false report the police can press charges on the person. So Cindy calling in that her car was stolen, but it wasn't...

[crymeariver2006]

:shrug: That's what was reported on Fox.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I know, I'm just thinking it's confusing for official charges to come down on the same day (or the same time frame) where we are expecting an arrest on additional charges.

Baez is expecting an arrest or he wouldn't have said that. But he said that yesterday, before these documents came down. They don't get re-arrested for an arraignment do they?

[cutiepatootie61]

ITA. They knew that day that there was a reasonable chance that Caylee was dead. Otherwise, WHY would they look under the pavers and playhouse?
Of course they suspected, and you'll notice they haven't searched for her since, not for a live child or a deceased one. Makes you wonder if something was found under that playhouse that decided whether or not to get off their asses to search for Caylee....:shrug:

[jessjam]

So what? It is nothing heroic, the stranger down the street would have done the same thing. Cindy should be rewarded for this? Gramma of the year award?? When she gets off her *** to find the child as she so eloquently ordered the public maybe I'll consider the pass you seem to insist she get on her outrageous behavior. Enough with that already. I would move mountains to find my missing 3 yr old daughter/granddaughter no matter who was suspected of harming her. She doesn't get to pass go because she made the 911 call, which she was only motivated to do to spite Casey about her sticky fingers. moo

I agree 100%

[True2Blues]

I agree, she was arrogant and flippant up on that stand answering questions.

Normal people whose granddaughter is missing make law enforcement their best friends. They bend over backwards to cooperate in the investigation. They do not argue and impede the investigation, except if there is something to hide.

I blame the anthonys for not putting all their efforts into protecting Caylee, the most vulnerable person in this nightmare. casey anthony should have come second to that, not the other way around.

IMO

I agree completely.

[Boxer]

Stealing and misusing the money of an elderly person is Elder Abuse.

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/elderabuse.html



ohhhhhh, slam dunk! it sure is!

[kakax]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.



However, there is, according to Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, a way to break her.

"The strain of the current situation will wear on those around her and pressure her to explain her behavior. Because she cannot explain her lies, she will blame everyone else. She will want to flee. She may even reach for religion as a means to cope, and depression is likely to follow. Then police will be able to talk with her to find out what she really knows. Detectives will be able to get information from her. The key for officers is to know her patterns and approach her the right way. If they key in on her personality, they will be able to get her to tell what really happened."


http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/criminal-profil.html

[WillowInFlight]

I agree...Just don't talk to her at all and she might finally start saying something...I couldn't stand to look at her in my house if she were my daughter until I got the truth!!
Thats what my hubby said, the attention needs to be taken off her, no more NG or Greta, no more protesters. Maybe if she is being ignored she may start to talk.

[kitty1182]

Stealing and misusing the money of an elderly person is Elder Abuse.

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/elderabuse.html

Thank you!! :)

[WinnieLeigh7]

...I thought someone mentioned earlier that this was the same morning she called and asked Jessi if she could shower at his apt.?

That was me and yes, that's correct...

Around 10 am according to his statement.

[Ionmhainn]

Actually these financial charges are what's keeping her in the system while LE is building their case, so I'm not discouraged. In one way anyway. Though in another way this does seem to be taking A LOT longer than I expected. If the forensics are as good as some of us think they are, I don't understand not further charging her. As pointed out, a body is NOT needed for a charge of murder. I think, however, LE is probably stumped between murder and accident, and still investigating thoroughly.

The above is me thinking aloud.

I've been thinking pretty much the same. The forensics, as "leaked" or "sourced" would ...seem...to be pretty strong evidence. Casey's financial crimes, interesting though they may be, don't tell us anything about what happened to Caylee. I'm tired of hearing about protesters, trash picking, etc. There has been very little real news, imo....

[kakax]

ohhhhhh, slam dunk! it sure is!


Elder financial abuse spans a broad spectrum of conduct, including:

Taking money or property
Forging an older person's signature
Getting an older person to sign a deed, will, or power of attorney through deception, coercion, or undue influence
Using the older person's property or possessions without permission
Promising lifelong care in exchange for money or property and not following through on the promise
Confidence crimes ("cons") are the use of deception to gain victims' confidence
Scams are fraudulent or deceptive acts
Fraud is the use of deception, trickery, false pretence, or dishonest acts or statements for financial gain
Telemarketing scams. Perpetrators call victims and use deception, scare tactics, or exaggerated claims to get them to send money. They may also make charges against victims' credit cards without authorization
Who are the perpetrators?

Family members, including sons, daughters, grandchildren, or spouses. They may:

Have substance abuse, gambling, or financial problems
Stand to inherit and feel justified in taking what they believe is "almost" or "rightfully" theirs
Fear that their older family member will get sick and use up their savings, depriving the abuser of an inheritance
Have had a negative relationship with the older person and feel a sense of "entitlement"
Have negative feelings toward siblings or other family members whom they want to prevent from acquiring or inheriting the older person's assets

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/fin_abuse.html

Interesting....hope they get her for this too!!

[kitty1182]

Thats what my hubby said, the attention needs to be taken off her, no more NG or Greta, no more protesters. Maybe if she is being ignored she may start to talk.

I think her parents should ignore her too..

[num1barb]

Of course they suspected, and you'll notice they haven't searched for her since, not for a live child or a deceased one. Makes you wonder if something was found under that playhouse that decided whether or not to get off their asses to search for Caylee....:shrug:

I've wondered if they found anything that day too. Maybe decomp fluid in the dirt....:shrug:

[Loves2Read]

Stealing and misusing the money of an elderly person is Elder Abuse.

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/elderabuse.html

Thank you True2Blues for that informative link. It isn't OK to abuse the elderly and it is not something I would laugh about as others have...:no:

[kitty1182]

Elder financial abuse spans a broad spectrum of conduct, including:

Taking money or property
Forging an older person's signature
Getting an older person to sign a deed, will, or power of attorney through deception, coercion, or undue influence
Using the older person's property or possessions without permission
Promising lifelong care in exchange for money or property and not following through on the promise
Confidence crimes ("cons") are the use of deception to gain victims' confidence
Scams are fraudulent or deceptive acts
Fraud is the use of deception, trickery, false pretence, or dishonest acts or statements for financial gain
Telemarketing scams. Perpetrators call victims and use deception, scare tactics, or exaggerated claims to get them to send money. They may also make charges against victims' credit cards without authorization
Who are the perpetrators?

Family members, including sons, daughters, grandchildren, or spouses. They may:

Have substance abuse, gambling, or financial problems
Stand to inherit and feel justified in taking what they believe is "almost" or "rightfully" theirs
Fear that their older family member will get sick and use up their savings, depriving the abuser of an inheritance
Have had a negative relationship with the older person and feel a sense of "entitlement"
Have negative feelings toward siblings or other family members whom they want to prevent from acquiring or inheriting the older person's assets

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/fin_abuse.html

Interesting....hope they get her for this too!!

I hope so too...

[True2Blues]

Not if they don't file charges. THUD!

Right and that's sad. Still, taking their money does qualify as Elder Abuse. Anything that could put the Elderly in danger is Elder Abuse, and robbing them blind so they cant eat, pay rent or pay for a doctor certainly fits that definition.

[nana6]

True and that's the difference between murder and manslaughter.

If they are able to get felony convictions on the financial charges, even an additional manslaughter conviction should put her away for the rest of her life (IF Florida follows the 3 strikes).

Correct?

I will go back to my original question when this all started. Who does not call 911 when there is an accident especially with your own 2 year old? Answer: there was no accident IMO

[jakee]

And I saw an interview with Cindy where she said she asked if she could wash them, and the cops gave her the okay, I dont think shes lying about something that could be so easily proved as a lie. jmo

I saw that interview of Cindy too, but I also read/saw IIRC, that LE said they never knew about those pants until 3 weeks after Cindy washed them. So I took that to mean that she did not have permission to wash them. IMO. Anyone else remember this?

[frances1]

:shrug: That's what was reported on Fox.

jmo

Caylee:rose:


There are more charges to come. They're just now posting the paperwork on the last charges.

[Syd'sMiMi]

Read the terms, what Casey did cannot, in any shape, form or fashion be considered Elder abuse. :)

Are you kidding me?

[forensicnut]

Stealing and misusing the money of an elderly person is Elder Abuse.

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/elderabuse.html

Was the account that she stole the routing number for an account that Cindy had control over? Or was it actually Grandmas checking account? Just curious. :confused:

[5boxersmom]

I know, I'm just thinking it's confusing for official charges to come down on the same day (or the same time frame) where we are expecting an arrest on additional charges.

Baez is expecting an arrest or he wouldn't have said that. But he said that yesterday, before these documents came down. They don't get re-arrested for an arraignment do they?

I know. It was confusing the way they reported it. I guess it is the State's Attorney charges?

No, I don't think you get re-arrested for an arraignment.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[True2Blues]

Thank you True2Blues for that informative link. It isn't OK to abuse the elderly and it is not something I would laugh about as others have...:no:

Not at all funny and all too common. I grew up around my Grandparents and I know the vulnerabilities of the elderly. I have no tolerance for abuse of the elderly at all.

[kitty1182]

Was the account that she stole the routing number for an account that Cindy had control over? Or was it actually Grandmas checking account? Just curious. :confused:

From what I understood, Grandma sent her a check for her birthday and she used the numbers off that check..

[WillowInFlight]

I think her parents should ignore her too..
Oh you know it, I would make her do her own cooking and her own laundry. Their only job right now is to make sure she doesn't flee.

[Broderick]

LE is grasping at straws. JMO. "Air" will be thrown out of court because it's a science that hasn't been proven yet. They have "nothing" on Casey except "parental neglect" for losing her child.


That is your speculation. Based on several interviews with LE I would speculate much differently. The evidence released is limited to the current charges. Any leaks have been strategic imo and very limited on details.

[frances1]

This could be interesting. Around here, they want to stay "hidden" because what they did was wrong. Not checking for proper ID, etc.

Who is they?

[bchand]

Yeah.... :)

She's looking at fifty & she'll probably get about a third of that.

Sixteen or seventeen years is fine with me.

Much more than she would get if she would have pretended what she did to Caylee was an accident.

And murder charges can be brought at any time.

It's all good for now. :)

See now we know why Casey was so mad at Cindy. She could have gotten off lightly with the accidental death charge, but because of Cindy calling 911, she's gonna sit in jail for a long time on the other charges.

[kOOkie1]

That was me and yes, that's correct...

Around 10 am according to his statement.

..I dont think I had put those dates together before now! ha... Thanks. .. why would she go back to the abandoned car area?? makes no sense~ (jmo)

[True2Blues]

Was the account that she stole the routing number for an account that Cindy had control over? Or was it actually Grandmas checking account? Just curious. :confused:

I believe it was the Grandparents account, but I don't know for certain if Cindy was on it as well. Good Question.

[Mizzchiff]

Plus, Florida seems to have tougher laws to protect seniors than the norm, so that could come into play as well, perhaps. :)

Yes. there are. Assault on an elderly person will get a much more severe sentence than on other adults. (I don't recall the age cut off)

[WillowInFlight]

She's still out on Bond with her Economic charges.
For now. I wonder how much bond will be on grand theft.

[anyonesguess]

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2finfo+2008.cf. 13520.13521.13331.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

For list of charges filed on OSCO page a few minutes ago,


and

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2fSAOdoc_Anthon y.Casey+9.11.08.doc&tabid=547&mid=1935

Lawson Lamar
State Attorney
Ninth Judicial Circuit of Florida

415 North Orange Avenue
Orlando, Florida 32801
(407) 836-2400


PRESS RELEASE


CONTACT:
Danielle Tavernier
Public Information Officer
(407) 836-2361

September 11, 2008

State of Florida vs. Casey Marie Anthony
Case # 2008-CF-13520
Case # 2008-CF-13521
Case # 2008-CF-13331

Charges were filed this morning in the criminal case against defendant Casey Marie Anthony. Additional information regarding court dates will be provided at a later date. Attached are the charging documents.

No calculation has or will be made on potential sentences if these charges result in convictions.

While the State understands the importance of this information to the community, this office does not want to create the type of publicity that would lead to a change of venue. Therefore, we will not comment further on the case itself.

Remember, these charges are only allegations and do not constitute a proof of guilt. Ms. Anthony has the right to a trial by jury and is cloaked with the presumption of innocence.

Until legal discovery is disclosed to the defense, there are no public records.

###

[day2day]

There is so much you don't know about this case it's not even funny anymore.

It was funny... but it's not anymore.

IMO.

I agree. Someone please take the hammers!hammer jmo

[nana6]

Oh you know it, I would make her do her own cooking and her own laundry. Their only job right now is to make sure she doesn't flee.

Oh Yes, And her computer would be off limits and her door off of the hinges. She could just site there all day and look at my hubby and myself

[toadii]

can anyone make out what that white box- like thing is at the end of the easement. i cannot see the writing on it.

[crymeariver2006]

I will go back to my original question when this all started. Who does not call 911 when there is an accident especially with your own 2 year old? Answer: there was no accident IMO


I know nana, I'm just thinking IF all they can charge her with is manslaughter for whatever reason, it'll be the last felony conviction they need to put her away for life.

(Not very many of us suspect it was an accident, but without proof of intent.....manslaughter may be the best they can do :( )

[WinnieLeigh7]

..I dont think I had put those dates together before now! ha... Thanks. .. why would she go back to the abandoned car area?? makes no sense~ (jmo)

None of this makes sense to me about this: (Copy from previous post)



What happened between 730 and 10 am??
how did she get to Jesse's?
Who's car?
did she have groceries then?
When did she leave Jesses?
How did she leave?
Where did she go?
And what happened between the time she left until she called Tony??
How did she get back to her car to call Tony? Did someone drop her off? If not, where was her means of transportation to get her there??


730 is mightly early to abandon a car, where was she before then?
Where did she stay the night of the 26
What happened between the time Amscot closed on the 26th until the 730 they opened on the 27th
Obviously wasn't at Tony's because she tells him on the night of the 27th to pick her up, her car was out of gas...

[kitty1182]

BINGO! I do believe that was the case. Why would Casey have any control over her grand parent's account?

I think grandma sent Casey a check for her b'day and she used the numbers off that check.

[crymeariver2006]

BINGO! I do believe that was the case. Why would Casey have any control over her grand parent's account?

Hmmmm, seems like the 400 page doc indicated that Casey was given a check for her birthday from her grandmother and she used the routing/account numbers off of that.

[cassidy]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

I want both. Put her in prison for the monetary crimes. At the same time continuing the investigation on Caylee's disappearace. Tuck her away in prison, she isn't helping to find her daughter anyhow.

[WillowInFlight]

Oh Yes, And her computer would be off limits and her door off of the hinges. She could just site there all day and look at my hubby and myself
LOL, we could give a new meaning to "tough love" The door off the hinges is a great idea.

[kitty1182]

Hmmmm, seems like the 400 page doc indicated that Casey was given a check for her birthday from her grandmother and she used the routing/account numbers off of that.

That is correct! :)

[Rebel Rouzer]

For now. I wonder how much bond will be on grand theft.

Hi Willow. Grand theft is anything over 10,000 dollars correct?

[forensicnut]

From what I understood, Grandma sent her a check for her birthday and she used the numbers off that check..

Okay...got it. I do remember something about that now. Thank you.

Question for the board:

All these felony charges from theft have me questioning the breakdown dollar amounts of Florida laws. I thought I heard that anything under $250 was considered petty theft, over $250 another degree and then over $1000 more severe yet and over $5000, grand theft, etc.

So, if the checks to Winn Dixie and Target were smaller amounts and the check to herself for cash was $250, wouldn't there be a range of degrees of the severity charges? Or is it simply that fact that it was forgery and her own hand that executed the checks?

[WillowInFlight]

Hmmmm, seems like the 400 page doc indicated that Casey was given a check for her birthday from her grandmother and she used the routing/account numbers off of that.
BINGO, I believe that was the case.

[jakee]

can anyone make out what that white box- like thing is at the end of the easement. i cannot see the writing on it.

I couldn't read it either, and now my camera froze on a white screen. :)

[Ladyhawk]

Elder financial abuse spans a broad spectrum of conduct, including:

Taking money or property
Forging an older person's signature
Getting an older person to sign a deed, will, or power of attorney through deception, coercion, or undue influence
Using the older person's property or possessions without permission
Promising lifelong care in exchange for money or property and not following through on the promise
Confidence crimes ("cons") are the use of deception to gain victims' confidence
Scams are fraudulent or deceptive acts
Fraud is the use of deception, trickery, false pretence, or dishonest acts or statements for financial gain
Telemarketing scams. Perpetrators call victims and use deception, scare tactics, or exaggerated claims to get them to send money. They may also make charges against victims' credit cards without authorization
Who are the perpetrators?

Family members, including sons, daughters, grandchildren, or spouses. They may:

Have substance abuse, gambling, or financial problems
Stand to inherit and feel justified in taking what they believe is "almost" or "rightfully" theirs
Fear that their older family member will get sick and use up their savings, depriving the abuser of an inheritance
Have had a negative relationship with the older person and feel a sense of "entitlement"
Have negative feelings toward siblings or other family members whom they want to prevent from acquiring or inheriting the older person's assets

http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/fin_abuse.html

Interesting....hope they get her for this too!!

Thanks for posting this on what is considered Elder Financial Abuse. Looks like the granddaughter's actions with the checks are covered in the very first point.

jmo

[Syd'sMiMi]

Hmmmm, seems like the 400 page doc indicated that Casey was given a check for her birthday from her grandmother and she used the routing/account numbers off of that.


If that's not elder abuse, please tell me what is? Using routing numbers from someone's checking account is theft no matter how you look at it.


Ger her for elder abuse too!

[day2day]

I think grandma sent Casey a check for her b'day and she used the numbers off that check.

You are right..IIRC..jmo

[desmom]

This could be interesting. Around here, they want to stay "hidden" because what they did was wrong. Not checking for proper ID, etc.

They didn't check for proper ID? TIA

[~jomomma~]

bingo! I do believe that was the case. Why would casey have any control over her grand parent's account?

what???????????

[kakax]

Anyone no what the white sign say's in front of the house?

I can't read it....it looks a little like the one Bernice's owner had, but not as many words on it.

[BrownEyedF]

one quick question...

is it very common for people to refer to the babysitter as "the nanny". Around here, a nanny is a live in babysitter, someone who watches your child while you work is a babysitter.

Just curious. Was Casey "putting on airs" by calling her a nanny or do others not find a problem with calling her that?


My niece and nephew called me Nanny when they were little. I have never referred to a babysitter for my children as a nanny. I do know someone employed as a nanny and she lives in.

Someone mentioned in the other thread that they found it strange that Cindy did not refer to Zanny by her name in the 911 call. I had never thought of that before. I would have said "Zanny her babysitter or nanny" has her if I was telling someone. I would not have just said the babysitter.

[kitty1182]

Dang, I didn't mean too and clicked the cam off..
Link please?:(

[need2no]

I think Nancy likes to keep her phone lines and cameras open to the Anthonys and to her reps. That is why she treads softly on anything related to them.


I'm inclined to think Nancy treads softly regarding Cindy and George because of the pending lawsuit against her. I don't think she wants anymore grandparents taking her to court to sue her over emotional distress, nor does she want the public to accuse her of harassing the grandparents.

[WillowInFlight]

Hi Willow. Grand theft is anything over 10,000 dollars correct?

You know I'm not sure. Does it vary from state to state. I never committed that crime. ;)

[johnielee333]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

both - Justice for Caylee = LWOP & in prison for the other crimes she did too.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Cindy seeing through Casey's lies in her prior life, before Caylee went missing, is a far different reach for Cindy than what she's faced with now - the possibility that not only her Granddaughter is dead, but that her own Daughter is the perpetrator.

IF Casey murdered Caylee, there is no such thing as "covering Casey's butt", unless there is some mistrust in the public that LE may not be able to prove this crime, or that there ever was a murder.


:confused: Sorry, I read this three times and still don't understand what you're trying to say.

[day2day]

Dang, I didn't mean too and clicked the cam off..
Link please?:(

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[kitty1182]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

thanks:beer:

[OneUp]

~DaddysGirl~
Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,729

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneUp
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If they want my show of support or my money they have to prove it to me.
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I think for most caring humans, the simple fact that their Granddaughter is missing should be proof enough.
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I just brought this "gem" over to reply to. Don't you just love people who think describing you as outside their group of "caring humans" is worthwhile for adding to Caylee's thread? Since it was found worthy of comment, let me further state my opinion on the subject.
FYI....NO, in fact having a missing Grandchild (or other loved one) is NOT proof enough that anyone is deserving of my financial support or my esteem. I choose not to provide either to Drew Peterson, Scott & Jackie Peterson, Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Diane Downs, Hans Reiser, Mary Winkler, Neil Entwistle and his parents, Michelle McGuire, Jeffery Macdonald, and ( by no means least) O.J. Simpson.
I can list more, but I believe my point is made, being related to a missing person or murder victim one does not prove you to be kind, or innocent, or worthy of anyone's esteem and money IMO.
Acting like a loving human being to those offering support, and safeguarding (even in death) the victim you claim to love do earn my esteem and empathy.
JMO.

[forensicnut]

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2finfo+2008.cf. 13520.13521.13331.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

For list of charges filed on OSCO page a few minutes ago,


and

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2fSAOdoc_Anthon y.Casey+9.11.08.doc&tabid=547&mid=1935

Lawson Lamar
State Attorney
Ninth Judicial Circuit of Florida

415 North Orange Avenue
Orlando, Florida 32801
(407) 836-2400


PRESS RELEASE


CONTACT:
Danielle Tavernier
Public Information Officer
(407) 836-2361

September 11, 2008

State of Florida vs. Casey Marie Anthony
Case # 2008-CF-13520
Case # 2008-CF-13521
Case # 2008-CF-13331

Charges were filed this morning in the criminal case against defendant Casey Marie Anthony. Additional information regarding court dates will be provided at a later date. Attached are the charging documents.

No calculation has or will be made on potential sentences if these charges result in convictions.

While the State understands the importance of this information to the community, this office does not want to create the type of publicity that would lead to a change of venue. Therefore, we will not comment further on the case itself.

Remember, these charges are only allegations and do not constitute a proof of guilt. Ms. Anthony has the right to a trial by jury and is cloaked with the presumption of innocence.

Until legal discovery is disclosed to the defense, there are no public records.

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July 16th. The same day cindy went to TonE's with Amy and reported Caylee missing?

Wonder if Cindy encouraged Amy to file the theft charges to put the heat on her daughter?

[kakax]

Thanks for posting this on what is considered Elder Financial Abuse. Looks like the granddaughter's actions with the checks are covered in the very first point.

jmo

Looks that way to me too! Maybe we are just too morally bereft to understand though.