Caylee Anthony 09-10-08 afternoon/evening thread

[kakax]

Thanks for posting this on what is considered Elder Financial Abuse. Looks like the granddaughter's actions with the checks are covered in the very first point.

jmo

Looks that way to me too! Maybe we are just too morally bereft to understand though.

[Boxer]

BINGO! I do believe that was the case. Why would Casey have any control over her grand parent's account?

huh?

she didn't have control over it...that's why it's called stealing

[kitty1182]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks to you too:beer:

[Carol25]

Dang, I didn't mean too and clicked the cam off..
Link please?:(
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Rebel Rouzer]

You know I'm not sure. Does it vary from state to state. I never committed that crime. ;)

lol Me either but I thought for it to be grand theft felony it had to be over 10 grand. I might be wrong.

[st777jo]

What's up with all this hate stuff you keep taking about? I don't think anyone on this board has stated that they hate the Anthony's. Would you please just give that a rest? I'm asking nicely.

I can tell you if I thought I knew who had my GD I would be all over them like ugly on ape. They'd be happy to go to jail to get me off of them. That's what I cannot understand, if George says they know who has her and they are being watched, then why in the he77 don't they have LE or the FBI go and bring her home? Because they don't know who has her and they know she is more than likely no with us any longer.

I know I ranting, but I'm not hating, just angry.

Yes, I have said I Hate The Anthony's. IMO, they have without a doubt put their adult daughter ahead of an innocent baby, who had no say in the matter.

[Regina.Lampert]

Anyone no what the white sign say's in front of the house?

It says "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. " *





* obscure movie reference, from "As Good As It Gets.".........lol. :tongue:

[anyonesguess]

Thanks for posting this on what is considered Elder Financial Abuse. Looks like the granddaughter's actions with the checks are covered in the very first point.

jmo


Fraud is the use of deception, trickery, false pretence, or dishonest acts or statements for financial gain

And the one above as well. Seems very straightforward to me imo, and not sure why someone else doesn't understand this. I call it reading and COMPREHENDING. :)

[True2Blues]

Read the terms, what Casey did cannot, in any shape, form or fashion be considered Elder abuse. :)


I've read the terms and defrauding a bank to empty the account of elderly people does qualify. In fact, I have a lovely book that is about nothing but Elder abuse.

[WillowInFlight]

Dang, I didn't mean too and clicked the cam off..
Link please?:(
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Boxer]

It says "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. " *





* obscure movie reference, from "As Good As It Gets.".........lol. :tongue:

I thought it said 'the money pit' ?

[Albini]

And they are being crucified for erroneously believing that there is any humanity or compassion in the world. I'm sure they know better now.

imo

You have got to be friggin joking me!

They dont see compassion in the world? Then they missed the dozens of people out there looking for thier granddaughter when thier own sorry azz daughter wouldnt do it. :flamemad:

If they wish to see no compassion, then they need to look at thier own child and stop putting the blame on mankind for all thier ails.

What about compassion for the elderly grandmother Casey stole from?

What about compassion for Caylee?

Frankly the people here have showed infininte more comapssion for Caylee then her own mother has..so enough with how inhumane the rest of us are...we didnt put them where they are, thier child did.

I hold no responsibility for these people. Any compassion from the general public is more then anyone DESERVES. But it is what we have shown.

[kitty1182]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

thank you!! :beer:

[dtviewer]

And they are being crucified for erroneously believing that there is any humanity or compassion in the world. I'm sure they know better now.

imo


Nope, they are being crucified for doing nothing to help to find their Grandaughter while protecting Casey and covering for her lies.

They decided they had to choose to protect one or the other.

They chose Casey.

Disgusting...........

[bchand]

I thought it said 'the money pit' ?


Is that Lee knocking the sign over?

[desmom]

Hi Willow. Grand theft is anything over 10,000 dollars correct?


Charges http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

Count 1. Grand Theft 3rd Degree

"...between the 7th day of July, 2008 and the 11th day of July, 2008, in said county and State did in violation of Florida Statue 812.014(2)(c)(1), pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, knowingly obtain or use, or endeavor to obtain or use United States Money Current, of a value of Three Hundred Dollars ($300.00) or more, the property of another, to wit: AH, as owner or custodian thereof, with the intent to temporarily or permanently deprive said owner or custodian of a right to the property or a benefit therefrom, or to appropriate the property to the defendant's own use or to the use of a person not entitled thereto."

FL Statues http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...2/titl0812.htm

812.014(2)(c)(1)c) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.

[kakax]

I've read the terms and defrauding a bank to empty the account of elderly people does qualify. In fact, I have a lovely book that is about nothing but Elder abuse.


TY for all your information!! I hope that LE is looking into this abuse!

[crymeariver2006]

Actually even Nancy Grace ("The Amazing One" :D) believes that Cindy did not wash those pants knowingly destroying forensic evidence. And apparently LE doesn't either.

The only problem I can see regarding the pants is IF the police asked George and Cindy if they had removed any items from the car (once it was ascertained that the dogs hit on it), and they lied and said no they didn't and the truth was that she had already removed them and washed them.

The unknowingly, unwittingly washing away of possible forensic evidence isn't going to be the problem, it's going to be the lying about it.

Remember the police didn't find out about the pants until 8/4, and she admits she washed them on 7/15 but didn't tell the police.

Again, the pants aren't going to come up for discussion until after any murder charge is filed.

All JMO

[bchand]

You have got to be friggin joking me!

They dont see compassion in the world? Then they missed the dozens of people out there looking for thier granddaughter when thier own sorry azz daughter wouldnt do it. :flamemad:

If they wish to see no compassion, then they need to look at thier own child and stop putting the blame on mankind for all thier ails.

What about compassion for the elderly grandmother Casey stole from?

What about compassion for Caylee?

Frankly the people here have showed infininte more comapssion for Caylee then her own mother has..so enough with how inhumane the rest of us are...we didnt put them where they are, thier child did.

I hold no responsibility for these people. Any compassion from the general public is more then anyone DESERVES. But it is what we have shown.


Wonderful reply to Scooby's post ! thank you.

[kitty1182]

Is that Lee knocking the sign over?

Don't know..Don't that boy work anymore?

[desmom]

This could be interesting. Around here, they want to stay "hidden" because what they did was wrong. Not checking for proper ID, etc.

They did check for ID.

Page #4 http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09.03.08_Frau d4.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

[Rebel Rouzer]

dtviewer and Albini you are both correct :seeya:

[Loves2Read]

OK dg here's the string of all the posts now tell me where did I mislead you into thinking that Casey was currently in jail? :read:

She's still out on Bond with her Economic charges.

You are right it does not get Caylee any justice. What it does give to the situation is some place for Casey to be where she won't be tempted to leave and start over with a new persona or kill herself there by taking her secrets with her. This also gives LE more time to find the body, and get all of their evidence tested and the experts lined up.

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

[frances1]

Not if they don't file charges. THUD!

Dunnie, you don't seem to get it. Just as in child abuse, elder abuse does not have to have an individual pressing charges.

[Lorna]

Actually, he may be headed home, or home already - to promote the Benefit for donations that he has on the 13th.

Between that, and going back to Aruba, it may be an entire month before he gets back to Caylee, if he does.

Good for him! He needs to take time for himself and rest before he does another search.

He has enough volunteers to do the searches as it is, so those who ask for help, get it.

:beer:Tim and Georganne and TES

[OneUp]

If that's not elder abuse, please tell me what is? Using routing numbers from someone's checking account is theft no matter how you look at it.


Ger her for elder abuse too!
If Casey did in fact steal from her grandparents it is Elder abuse and will likely be charged as such. That is a special, seperate charge though I don't know how Florida statutes deal with it. Here a person might or might not be charged for theft by the guardian or the money holder themselves, the state represented by SRS ( Social and Rehabilitative Services, names are different in many states, I think DCF is Florida) will press the Elder abuse charges either way if a social worker, nursing home director etc. knows of it ( a mandated reporter).
The charges are more severe than for petty theft as it is ABUSE. I'll try to search out a link on Floridas Elder abuse laws, though law is far from my speciality.
JMO.
ETA: BTW...the date on this thread is incorrect...I'm sure I'm not the first to notice though.

[WillowInFlight]

Good point! We will never find justice for Caylee. That child is gone at the hands of her mom, I would guess.

I also blame Cindy and George for not taking better of their grandbaby. But, what's done is done. May Caylee RIP. I sure have learned a lot of lessons here.

:rose:
This is the strangest post I have ever seen. This case is far from over. And I hardly think it was the Anthony's job to take care of Caylee, maybe they should have done a better job of taking care of Casey and getting her the medical help she so badly needed at a young age.
You don't become a thief and a liar over night. Cindy knew Casey had problems for years, she chose to look the other way.

[cutiepatootie61]

You have got to be friggin joking me!

They dont see compassion in the world? Then they missed the dozens of people out there looking for thier granddaughter when thier own sorry azz daughter wouldnt do it. :flamemad:

If they wish to see no compassion, then they need to look at thier own child and stop putting the blame on mankind for all thier ails.

What about compassion for the elderly grandmother Casey stole from?

What about compassion for Caylee?

Frankly the people here have showed infininte more comapssion for Caylee then her own mother has..so enough with how inhumane the rest of us are...we didnt put them where they are, thier child did.

I hold no responsibility for these people. Any compassion from the general public is more then anyone DESERVES. But it is what we have shown.

:beer: Good for you! It's unreal how some posters want to spin this chaos the Anthony's have created on everyone but where it belongs.

[Boxer]

Nope, they are being crucified for doing nothing to help to find their Grandaughter while protecting Casey and covering for her lies.

They decided they had to choose to protect one or the other.

They chose Casey.

Disgusting...........



it is disgusting. everytime I see one of them wearing a Caylee tee shirt I cringe. or two of them high fiving in Caylee tee shirts. or just see them not looking for Caylee...I'm disgusted.

they should put Casey back in jail and walk away straight towards the nearest search group, and keep searching. Personally, I don't think that they think Caylee is alive at all...or they would not have been searching their own property with crime in mind.

[num1barb]

Don't know..Don't that boy work anymore?

Maybe he doesn't need to with the 1.5 mi deals on the table? :shrug:

[bchand]

Don't know..Don't that boy work anymore?


Who knows. lol At one point the sign was knocked over and I thought it looked like him on the side walk. The sign is back up so maybe they'll be calling LE again.

[trich]

You have got to be friggin joking me!

They dont see compassion in the world? Then they missed the dozens of people out there looking for thier granddaughter when thier own sorry azz daughter wouldnt do it. :flamemad:

If they wish to see no compassion, then they need to look at thier own child and stop putting the blame on mankind for all thier ails.

What about compassion for the elderly grandmother Casey stole from?

What about compassion for Caylee?

Frankly the people here have showed infininte more comapssion for Caylee then her own mother has..so enough with how inhumane the rest of us are...we didnt put them where they are, thier child did.

I hold no responsibility for these people. Any compassion from the general public is more then anyone DESERVES. But it is what we have shown.


I couldn't have said it better.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Charges http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

Count 1. Grand Theft 3rd Degree

"...between the 7th day of July, 2008 and the 11th day of July, 2008, in said county and State did in violation of Florida Statue 812.014(2)(c)(1), pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, knowingly obtain or use, or endeavor to obtain or use United States Money Current, of a value of Three Hundred Dollars ($300.00) or more, the property of another, to wit: AH, as owner or custodian thereof, with the intent to temporarily or permanently deprive said owner or custodian of a right to the property or a benefit therefrom, or to appropriate the property to the defendant's own use or to the use of a person not entitled thereto."

FL Statues http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...2/titl0812.htm

812.014(2)(c)(1)c) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.


Ok so in FL grand theft is anything over 300 dollars

[msjoni]

I'm inclined to think Nancy treads softly regarding Cindy and George because of the pending lawsuit against her. I don't think she wants anymore grandparents taking her to court to sue her over emotional distress, nor does she want the public to accuse her of harassing the grandparents.

I agree, I was surprised at Nancy with her dealings with the grandparents.

[Boxer]

This is the strangest post I have ever seen. This case is far from over. And I hardly think it was the Anthony's job to take care of Caylee, maybe they should have done a better job of taking care of Casey and getting her the medical help she so badly needed at a young age.
You don't become a thief and a liar over night. Cindy knew Casey had problems for years, she choose to look the other way.


me too. please call Cold Case Files and tell them they make no sense.

[crymeariver2006]

Is that Lee knocking the sign over?

Lee seems to have a problem with signs.

[Laurieann]

From what I understood, Grandma sent her a check for her birthday and she used the numbers off that check..

Fwiw
Rick (Cindy's Brother) posted that Casey had stolen 4 checks from grandmother's check books, including checks from a dedicated account that paid for grandpa's care. He stated that one check he knew was cashed in the amount of $352.00.
He didnt say what the check was written for.
He did say the stolen checks were the reason for the huge father's day fight that seems to have led to Casey leaving with Caylee.

this is posted as I remember it .
mho

[dtviewer]

____________________________________

And I'm showing you nicely, and no, I won't "give it a rest", but thanks all the same. As long as hate is posted here, I am also allowed to post my views as well.

If you need more, scan the threads at any time, night or day, 24/7, you'll find it here in volumes.


The post where you talked about putting your hands around Caseys neck. You remember it I'm sure.

Would that be considered 'hate'?

:shrug:

[Lorna]

Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert


Name one thing cynthia and george have done to find Caylee.

________________________________

You have somehow forgotten that if not for Cindy, Caylee wouldn't even be known as a Missing Person.

Eventually, she would have been. Someone would have missed her and began questioning the family.

They didn't live in a vacuum.

I give her credit for that. It's the stonewalling she has done since that has baffled me.

[crymeariver2006]

I see what you're saying. Do we have any indication they were lying about it? You're right....won't know anything until and unless a murder charge comes into play.

Well, we do know that George supposedly retrieved a garbage back that he said was in the car, so....I think it would be a fair guess to say that LE did indeed ask if any items were removed from the car.

That'd just be a guess. But if cadaver dogs hit on a car, I'm sure the police would be very interested in contents of said car.

:shrug:

[Rebel Rouzer]

They must have missed all the people searching for their granddaughter.

Oh wait... no they didn't. Cindy knew all about them. She just wanted nothing to do with them.

I do believe compassion & the Anthony's are strangers.

IMO.


I believe that that posters OPINION on what the Anthony's believe or don't believe about people not having compassion etc is just that and OPINION and I place no value on it. It's their perception that people have no compassion. they have no clue what the Anthony's think or believe. They shouldn't project their own views and opinions on to someone else they have no clue about and have never met. IMO

Hi Landshark :seeya:

[Broderick]

Lee seems to have a problem with signs.

As an aside, I think the sign from the other day kicked his rear.

Sign -1
Lee -0

[forensicnut]

I'm still leaning towards the whole drug deal/drug dealer scenarios. I know if Dragon was still here, he'd give me a run for my money and counterback with his intelligent rebuttals. But, I'm going to add this to my current list on the whole drug involvement theory.

Casey is a thieve, even according to her family.

If Casey tells the judge that she had a severe drug problem at the time of the thefts and stole monies only to obtain more drugs.......
can the judge order a drug diversion program as opposed to jail time?

It's done here in California all the time and if you successfully complete the program and stay clean for X number of months, the charges will be reduced or dropped.

:shrug:

Does anyone know if Florida has a similiar drug diversion program utilized by the courts for first time offenders?

[concernedmom]

Lee seems to have a problem with signs.

Good grief. Doesnt he have better things to do like go pick his sister up ?Maybe he doesnt have to do that today if Baez is taking her to jail.

[WinnieLeigh7]

You said that Cindy, knowing how Casey has lied all of her life, should be able to see right through her lies.

You can't compare what Cindy is faced with NOW, with her Granddaughter missing and perhaps dead, with Cindy's PRIOR knowledge of Casey's everyday lies. There's no comparison.

You can know that your child is a liar in previous instances, but do you really want to touch that base of reality in THIS case - because to "go there" and recognize that your child is a liar would also be admittance that your Grandchild may be dead.

Huge difference!


No, I said I believe Cindy knows Casey better than anyone, that is to include her lies, yes, but also her behaviors, her tendencies, her 'covering up, her behaviors, etc.


And I disagree, to know how bad your daughter is to the point that you seek counseling....to the point that you call cops to have her arrested...then you know, she's capable of anything!


Cindy has admitted Casey is a liar, so she knows that...
and if questioned about Casey's nonsense stories, Cindy will go into something along the lines of "I wasn't aware I was here to defend my daughters mistruths, I thought this was about Caylee"....

And in the next instant, she's denying the evidence findings and spewing out some story just as wild as Casey's...

[beemeup]

I would just like to clarify things i have posted out of anger and frustration. I dont hate the Anthony's. What i do hate is their beh. and lack of.

[crymeariver2006]

Lee and George both seem to have an anger problem..all against females which I find VERY scary. Do none of ther male protesters upset them or is it the fact they know they can get away with striking a female?

This to me speaks volumes about their characters.

ITA

After Lee's performance yesterday, my DH now calls him "Manley Man, the Sign Slayer".

[True2Blues]

Good for him! He needs to take time for himself and rest before he does another search.

He has enough volunteers to do the searches as it is, so those who ask for help, get it.

:beer:Tim and Georganne and TES

Yes indeed. I don't know what all the harping on Tim Miller and TES having a fundraiser is about. If he wants to go to a fund raiser and personally thank the people who are supporting his work, I think that's great.

At the moment he can't search in Orlando, so why not take a moment to show gratitude to people who support the work TES does? He gives his help to those who need it, free of charge.

[MichelleP]

Casey is the POI here, are George & Cindy? NO.

Huge difference in hate transference there!

Weren't you sticking up for Casey at one time too?

[bchand]

As an aside, I think the sign from the other day kicked his rear.

Sign -1
Lee -0


lolol and he had the nerve to ask if anyone wanted to help him. (My husband said he'd help him alright.)

[st777jo]

____________________________________

And I'm showing you nicely, and no, I won't "give it a rest", but thanks all the same. As long as hate is posted here, I am also allowed to post my views as well.

If you need more, scan the threads at any time, night or day, 24/7, you'll find it here in volumes.

Knock your self out.

[desmom]

They said it, trust me they don't. Called covering your ***, which is why I don't believe any of the "sworn testimonies."

JMO.

Read the report. LE has the checks. jmo

[WinnieLeigh7]

WB Flmom :seeya:

[ginky41]

Says who? The nosy public, who is drooling for information into the Anthonys private lives, and who also, aren't going to get it no matter how much they stomp their feet?

In what possible stretch of the imagination did 'they have to choose' ?

They didn't, and haven't.

And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.


Besides calling the police (which I think was done out of anger at Casey, IMO, not the desire to find Caylee) what have the Anthony's done to try and locate Caylee? Have they gone door to door like they pledged to do? No. Have they searched the swamps and the parks and the waterways, etc? No.

[Boxer]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.

[dtviewer]

Casey is the POI here, are George & Cindy? NO.

Huge difference in hate transference there!

I see-YOU get to decide when 'HATE' is appropriate, and when it isnt.

Gotchya......;)

[Peach]

____________________________________

And I'm showing you nicely, and no, I won't "give it a rest", but thanks all the same. As long as hate is posted here, I am also allowed to post my views as well.

If you need more, scan the threads at any time, night or day, 24/7, you'll find it here in volumes.

Then why are you here? To light the way of compassion for all of us? You light the way of argument for sure...

[Broderick]

lolol and he had the nerve to ask if anyone wanted to help him. (My husband said he'd help him alright.)


It was actually embarrassing from a male perspective.

[crymeariver2006]

As an aside, I think the sign from the other day kicked his rear.

Sign -1
Lee -0


Wouldn't today make it

Sign - 2
Lee - 0

But he might get an eighth of a point from Sunday when he tore a piece of the sign that the lady George shoved was holding.

I'll have to check the rule book.

:read:

[Albini]

And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.


Can you explain how far it is from being false?

[saydeezmom]

I'm not up on FL law, cryme, but that sounds right. I'm not worried about Casey "walking"......no way, no how. That's why I really don't get angry or impatient. She won't be "free" for a long, long, long time, if ever.

I thought the same way; but Broderick seem to think I was living a pipe dream.

[Peach]

Hate hate hate...blah, blah blah....:rolleyes:

[BrownEyedF]

I know G&C loved Caylee without a doubt just as my mother loves my children. I believe they would have done anything for her.

However, I think they were trying to get her to take more responsibility for her daughter in an attempt to get her to 'move on' with her life and get some direction for her future. I think towards the end of this whole fiasco they were maybe pulling back some on the babysitting and expecting her to pick up the slack.

Ricardo said that Casey brought Caylee over to his house to spend the night 3-4 nights a week and that they all slept in the same bed. I found that pretty shocking...not that couples let their children sleep with them, I am not against that. However, this relationship that she was having with Ricardo went from Feb I think until May. It was hardly a long-term or serious relationship IMO. There is no reason that Caylee should have been in that man's bed. But why would Casey have her there with them if she had a choice? If she could have taken her home and tucked her into bed and then come back, I think she would have.

I think this is the reason she lied about times that she had to work so that she could have some free time without Caylee. I think George and Cindy were her only babysitters other than friends occasionally. I think she needed the fake emails for the days when she wanted Cindy to babysit.

I think she may have told them that she had another babysitter for Caylee so she could breeze outta the house and say, "going to work, gonna drop Caylee at nanny's." Then she went out and took her daughter to parties or spent the night with guys, whatever it is she did. I don't think Cindy would have approved of Caylee being in the middle of these parties and drinking, etc.

I have heard a lot of people ask, "Why would she kill her when she could have just left Caylee with her parents and done whatever she wanted to?" I truly don't believe that was the case. I think C&G were getting fed up with her and they were not going to support her going out to have a good time as often as she wanted to. When she flew the coop over father's day weekend she no longer had anyone to watch Caylee. That is when this all exploded.

If, in fact, Cindy had hinted to Casey before she left that she would try to take custody of Caylee, it may have been what set this whole unfortunate chain of events into motion. What would she use to manipulate Cindy if she didn't have Caylee anymore?

JMO

[joolz]

A good defense will be able to say they are mutually exclusive, if this ever goes to trial, which I don't think it will.

What does one have to do with the other. She stole money, she's a thief and a liar, doesn't make her a murderer.

(I do think she murdered her child though.) :rose:

It will be up to a jury of her peers if it ever gets to that.

Let us not forget "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt". Prosecution has a tough road ahead of them if they decide to proceed with this case (murder), based on what we know at this point.

JMO.


What I was answering was your post that read:

"I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. "


So, again: why does putting her in jail rule out finding out what happened to Caylee?

How could the defense use that? It's not like anyone would be saying, "well she's been convicted of theft so she must be a killer.":rolleyes:

What your post seems to say is that if she goes to prison for monetary crimes the truth will never be learned and Caylee will get no justice.

So that means that you must believe that if Casey never serves a day in prison on monetary crimes that increases the chance of finding out what happened to Caylee?

Is that based on how forthcoming Casey has been while she's been walking around free?

[Syd'sMiMi]

Yes, I have said I Hate The Anthony's. IMO, they have without a doubt put their adult daughter ahead of an innocent baby, who had no say in the matter.

I stand corrected!

[Broderick]

Wouldn't today make it

Sign - 2
Lee - 0

But he might get an eighth of a point from Sunday when he tore a piece of the sign that the lady George shoved was holding.

I'll have to check the rule book.

:read:


I don't know what happened today, but I had forgot about his lame limpy grab on that woman's sign. He got a small corner piece.

You are right.

Signs 2
Lee 0

He should give up and quit embarrassing the male species. At least his dad can intimidate.

[kate482000]

[QUOTE=Rebel Rouzer;12101149]I believe that that posters OPINION on what the Anthony's believe or don't believe about people not having compassion etc is just that and OPINION and I place no value on it. It's their perception that people have no compassion. they have no clue what the Anthony's think or believe. They shouldn't project their own views and opinions on to someone else they have no clue about and have never met. IMO

Hi Landshark :seeya:[/QUOTe

Basically their behaviour displays a lack of compassion and common sense seems to dictate most of the posters opinions...We usually know compassion or lack thereof when we see it....

[kitty1182]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.

Don't forget her mirror...

Hi babe:seeya:

[Carol25]

Wouldn't today make it

Sign - 2
Lee - 0

But he might get an eighth of a point from Sunday when he tore a piece of the sign that the lady George shoved was holding.

I'll have to check the rule book.

:read:
:beer: That good ol' rule book, huh? Good one!

[Lorna]

I know Amy did. But, it's only about $700 worth. A mere pittance. Will Cindy and George press charges?

Catch up!

It has been reported earlier that the banks are now pressing charges.

Catch up! :)

[True2Blues]

Besides calling the police (which I think was done out of anger at Casey, IMO, not the desire to find Caylee) what have the Anthony's done to try and locate Caylee? Have they gone door to door like they pledged to do? No. Have they searched the swamps and the parks and the waterways, etc? No.


No they haven't done those things, but they've gone out of their way to to misdirect and obstruct those who want to find Caylee. Cindy was beside herself trying to get rid of Tim Miller.

[kitty1182]

There are a few standing close to the driveway, George will blow a cork.. :eek:

[Boxer]

Don't forget her mirror...

Hi babe:seeya:lol. :seeya:

you're right, no mirror!

[WillowInFlight]

Interesting the signs come out around 4:00 :D

[WinnieLeigh7]

What?? I can't hear you.....the screen keeps getting fuzzy.I think we have a bad connection..

:lol:

Can I borrow this line sometime?

[kOOkie1]

ITA

After Lee's performance yesterday, my DH now calls him "Manley Man, the Sign Slayer".
....haha:)

[oldbluesmith]

Good Afternoon everyone, I found the following state statutes about the theft charges of which Casey may be accused:

(c) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.

2. Valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000.

3. Valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000.

4. A will, codicil, or other testamentary instrument.

5. A firearm.

6. A motor vehicle, except as provided in paragraph (a).

7. Any commercially farmed animal, including any animal of the equine, bovine, or swine class, or other grazing animal, and including aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility. If the property stolen is aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility, then a $10,000 fine shall be imposed.

8. Any fire extinguisher.

9. Any amount of citrus fruit consisting of 2,000 or more individual pieces of fruit.

10. Taken from a designated construction site identified by the posting of a sign as provided for in s. 810.09(2)(d).

11. Any stop sign.

12. Anhydrous ammonia.

However, if the property is stolen within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252, the property is stolen after the declaration of emergency is made, and the perpetration of the theft is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the offender commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property is valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000, as provided under subparagraph 2., or if the property is valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000, as provided under subparagraph 3. As used in this paragraph, the term "conditions arising from the emergency" means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or the response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this paragraph is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.

(d) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, and is taken from a dwelling as defined in s. 810.011(2) or from the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling pursuant to s. 810.09(1).

(e) Except as provided in paragraph (d), if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, the offender commits petit theft of the first degree, punishable as a misdemeanor of the first degree, as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3)(a) Theft of any property not specified in subsection (2) is petit theft of the second degree and a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and as provided in subsection (5), as applicable.

(b) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted of any theft commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(c) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted two or more times of any theft commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(d)1. Every judgment of guilty or not guilty of a petit theft shall be in writing, signed by the judge, and recorded by the clerk of the circuit court. The judge shall cause to be affixed to every such written judgment of guilty of petit theft, in open court and in the presence of such judge, the fingerprints of the defendant against whom such judgment is rendered. Such fingerprints shall be affixed beneath the judge's signature to such judgment. Beneath such fingerprints shall be appended a certificate to the following effect:


"I hereby certify that the above and foregoing fingerprints on this judgment are the fingerprints of the defendant, _____, and that they were placed thereon by said defendant in my presence, in open court, this the _____ day of _____, (year) ."


Such certificate shall be signed by the judge, whose signature thereto shall be followed by the word "Judge."

2. Any such written judgment of guilty of a petit theft, or a certified copy thereof, is admissible in evidence in the courts of this state as prima facie evidence that the fingerprints appearing thereon and certified by the judge are the fingerprints of the defendant against whom such judgment of guilty of a petit theft was rendered.

(4) Failure to comply with the terms of a lease when the lease is for a term of 1 year or longer shall not constitute a violation of this section unless demand for the return of the property leased has been made in writing and the lessee has failed to return the property within 7 days of his or her receipt of the demand for return of the property. A demand mailed by certified or registered mail, evidenced by return receipt, to the last known address of the lessee shall be deemed sufficient and equivalent to the demand having been received by the lessee, whether such demand shall be returned undelivered or not.

(5)(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle so as to cause it to leave the premises of an establishment at which gasoline offered for retail sale was dispensed into the fuel tank of such motor vehicle unless the payment of authorized charge for the gasoline dispensed has been made.

(b) In addition to the penalties prescribed in paragraph (3)(a), every judgment of guilty of a petit theft for property described in this subsection shall provide for the suspension of the convicted person's driver's license. The court shall forward the driver's license to the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles in accordance with s. 322.25.

1. The first suspension of a driver's license under this subsection shall be for a period of up to 6 months.

2. The second or subsequent suspension of a driver's license under this subsection shall be for a period of 1 year.

(6) A person who individually, or in concert with one or more other persons, coordinates the activities of one or more persons in committing theft under this section where the stolen property has a value in excess of $3,000 commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.



Hope this helps with your questions. Oldblue

[kitty1182]

Interesting the signs come out around 4:00 :D

Yep......:o

[FrankieBones1]

Same here..LOL
That is partly my fault. I didn't see a Thursday Afternoon/Evening thread when I started mine. My mind doesn't do numbered dates well.

[Syd'sMiMi]

____________________________________

And I'm showing you nicely, and no, I won't "give it a rest", but thanks all the same. As long as hate is posted here, I am also allowed to post my views as well.

If you need more, scan the threads at any time, night or day, 24/7, you'll find it here in volumes.

Ok going back to lurking, this is too much for me! CYA again sometime.

[dtviewer]

LOL So we should all love Casey, right?

You've somehow forgotten, amid your intense misplaced hate for George & Cindy, that Casey IS the POI, as noted by LE.

Nope, havent forgotten a thing. No misplaced hate at all. There is enough blame to be found with ALL the Anthonies.

I just love watching your spin everytime you are caught between your hypocritical posts.........

[Peach]

And the checks mean what? They were forged? Not a big deal, compared to a missing Child. :rose:

The checks are a map...to a murder charge. In the big picture, Caylee is most important. These are things LE has found out while investigating this case.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I'm still leaning towards the whole drug deal/drug dealer scenarios. I know if Dragon was still here, he'd give me a run for my money and counterback with his intelligent rebuttals. But, I'm going to add this to my current list on the whole drug involvement theory.

Casey is a thieve, even according to her family.

If Casey tells the judge that she had a severe drug problem at the time of the thefts and stole monies only to obtain more drugs.......
can the judge order a drug diversion program as opposed to jail time?

It's done here in California all the time and if you successfully complete the program and stay clean for X number of months, the charges will be reduced or dropped.

:shrug:

Does anyone know if Florida has a similiar drug diversion program utilized by the courts for first time offenders?


You know what...

There was a lady here locally to me, that was arrested today for trying to sell her baby to a dealer for more crack...

It blew my mind.
BUT it made me think about this theory...

Possible, it is.

[OneUp]

Says who? The nosy public, who is drooling for information into the Anthonys private lives, and who also, aren't going to get it no matter how much they stomp their feet?

In what possible stretch of the imagination did 'they have to choose' ?

They didn't, and haven't.

And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.I don't think it in any way inhibits the task of finding caylees body...nor do I think it stands achance of helping that search either. What it does do IMO, is reward the person responsible for Caylee being a body instead of a beautiful, living, breathing, giggling, little girl. I am consoled as living with her hateful mother and being confined to a law office all day must be a very small reward ineed for Casey...one which likely preceeds a long stay in prison, and eventually an even longer stay in Hell.
JMO.

[ginky41]

And the checks mean what? They were forged? Not a big deal, compared to a missing Child. :rose:

Where did anyone say the monetary crimes were more significant (or even equally significant) to a missing child? What am I missing here? :shrug:

[Rebel Rouzer]

I agree that what that poster posts is her opinion. But I also believe what EVERY poster posts is merely an opinion. For example: Cindy and George don't want Caylee's body ever found; Cindy and George are totally responsible for the current "circus;" Cindy and George KNOW that Caylee is dead.....and on and on.

ALL we post here is just our opinion. Even WITHOUT "IMO" after our posts. That goes for everyone.


They are key players in this case and most of the opinions about them are due to their actions and statement. Most on here do not assume things about them with no basis of fact to back it up. Most of us here don't attack posters and searchers through our posts and claim that's what the Anthony's believe or think so they can get by with bashing posters personally. Most of us attak the veracity of the post and it's contents not the posters and public themselves. There is and should be a difference. with some there isn't.

I may not like what you say but i don't need to make attacks on you for saying it. I'll debate or attack the contents unless the person has attacked or berated the poster and not the post.

Just my opinion

[kitty1182]

That is partly my fault. I didn't see a Thursday Afternoon/Evening thread when I started mine. My mind doesn't do numbered dates well.

As long as I'm posting :beer:

[num1barb]

Nope, havent forgotten a thing. No misplaced hate at all. There is enough blame to be found with ALL the Anthonies.

I just love watching your spin everytime you are caught between your hypocritical posts.........


It's comical, isn't it?

[st777jo]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.

Thats just what I have time and again. Why make her comfy? Caylee isn't. IMO

[kitty1182]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks to you too:beer:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Wouldn't today make it

Sign - 2
Lee - 0

But he might get an eighth of a point from Sunday when he tore a piece of the sign that the lady George shoved was holding.

I'll have to check the rule book.

:read:

Sign - 2
Lee - 0
:lol:

[johnielee333]

This is the strangest post I have ever seen. This case is far from over. And I hardly think it was the Anthony's job to take care of Caylee, maybe they should have done a better job of taking care of Casey and getting her the medical help she so badly needed at a young age.
You don't become a thief and a liar over night. Cindy knew Casey had problems for years, she chose to look the other way.

i agree. there were probably signs that casey had mental problems way back when she was a kid. some parents either choose to not take them in for help for whatever reason or they just dont realize they need help. either way, casey needed help. instead they probably just spoiled her & let her get away with stuff thinking she would grow out of it.

[True2Blues]

And the checks mean what? They were forged? Not a big deal, compared to a missing Child. :rose:

The checks mean Casey committed a crime. Several, in fact, and the job of LE is to investigate crime and arrest the wrongdoers so they can be brought to trial. Casey doesn't get a pass just because she's involved in more than one investigation. Why should she?

There are a lot of resources going into the investigation into what happened to Caylee, but it isn't the only crime in Orlando. They don't handle just one crime at a time.

As far as the other charges against Casey, those people deserve Justice. If that means that the POI in a case involving a missing child gets put in jail, so be it. At least they don't have to worry about her running away (which I believe she would do if given the chance) while they investigate Caylee's disappearance.

[joolz]

And the checks mean what? They were forged? Not a big deal, compared to a missing Child. :rose:

Who says it's a big deal next to a missing child?

Is it that hard to understand that they are two separate issues?

[trich]

They said it, trust me they don't. Called covering your ***, which is why I don't believe any of the "sworn testimonies."

JMO.



The report said that CAsey's drivers license number was on back of check.
I think she wrote the checks out to herself as being payee and forged Amy's as the payer.
therefore she had id with her own drivers license.

[WillowInFlight]

Is that one couple on the wrong side of the yellow tape?

[toadii]

You know what...

There was a lady here locally to me, that was arrested today for trying to sell her baby to a dealer for my crack...

It blew my mind.
BUT it made me think about this theory...

Possible, it is.
i hope that was a typo:eek:
surely you meant "buy crack"
TY, i needed to laugh, i make typos tooo

[dtviewer]

Why not stay and use ignore. I hear its very peaceful.

The only problem with ignore is it would deprive me of the pleasure of being able to laugh at some of the ridiculous posts and spin...:D

[need2no]

As an aside, I think the sign from the other day kicked his rear.

Sign -1
Lee -0



:biggrin:


ITA...I couldn't help but laugh....and then the guy retrieved the sign and gave it back to the protester, after all of Lee's effort to destroy it.

[Broderick]

Broderick is right - 50 years for these Economic crimes will never happen, and although some may not want to admit it, I think inside it's no great secret.

That aside, do you really want her to do 50 years for something other than being held accountable for Caylee's disappearance?

Is it just about getting her to do jail time, or actually making her take accountability through appropriate charges?

Dunnie's post was right on target!



It is just a fact. I would like someone to show me where someone ever went to jail for more than a year or two for first offense small economic crimes regardless if they are felonies on the surface or not.

It would be plead down to one or two charges or misdemeanors with some possible restitution. People steal hundreds of thousands if not millions and serve a few years at best.

Now, if she had been prosecuted successfully previously on similar charges and then went on another rampage then she would probably serve more time. As far as I know, she has no criminal past in the courts.

[Tiger]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.
ITA! with all that said......she still has more than Caylee has now:(

[Pooh]

Your crack?

Edit time. :)

ROFLMAO!! :lol:

[kitty1182]

Is that one couple on the wrong side of the yellow tape?

I think so...:o

[oldbluesmith]

Definition of Abandoned Child in Florida:

http://library.adoption.com/child-abuse-and-neglect/definitions-of-child-abuse-and-neglect-florida/article/8448/1.html

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)

'Abandoned' means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child, or in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver responsible for the child's welfare, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and makes no effort to communicate with the child, which situation is sufficient to evince a willful rejection of parental obligations. If the efforts of such parent or legal custodian, or caregiver primarily responsible for the child's welfare, to support and communicate with the child are, in the opinion of the court, only marginal efforts that do not evince a settled purpose to assume all parental duties, the court may declare the child to be abandoned.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I know G&C loved Caylee without a doubt just as my mother loves my children. I believe they would have done anything for her.

However, I think they were trying to get her to take more responsibility for her daughter in an attempt to get her to 'move on' with her life and get some direction for her future. I think towards the end of this whole fiasco they were maybe pulling back some on the babysitting and expecting her to pick up the slack.

SNIPPED.....


Wonderful post and I agree...

Except for one question, to state that they weren't letting Casey get by with not 'stepping up' and that's why she had Caylee with her all the time (sleeping in Ricardo's bed, etc.)...

and then for Casey to want freedom after Cindy threatened to take Caylee from her...
Well, obviously Casey could have given Caylee to Cindy and went on her lil' "party style" life, right?

[OneUp]

Yes indeed. I don't know what all the harping on Tim Miller and TES having a fundraiser is about. If he wants to go to a fund raiser and personally thank the people who are supporting his work, I think that's great.

At the moment he can't search in Orlando, so why not take a moment to show gratitude to people who support the work TES does? He gives his help to those who need it, free of charge.
Exactly, Tim is not in especial charge of finding Caylee and only Caylee...there are many other families desperate for his assistance, as well as he fundraising thatr allows TES to search which needs tending to. It is the same for LE, no matter how much they want to resolve Caylees case, they are not able to drop everything and focus on Caylee to the exclusion of everything else.
The Anthony's however, should be able to do just that. Finding Caylee should be their #1 priority...how many other missing children are they expected to devote their time to?
JMO.

[beemeup]

I laughted when the protester went and got it out of the trash and stood it back up,poor lee all that work for nothing:D

Darn i missed it all !!!!!!

[True2Blues]

Ok going back to lurking, this is too much for me! CYA again sometime.

Don't let anyone chase you away. Just put whoever on ignore.

[Lorna]

I definitely agree that when Cindy made that 911 call, she never thought that Casey would hold out for this long, but the fact still remains that Cindy IS the one who put her foot down and denied Casey's plea of 'give me one more day'/ 'we'll go get Caylee tomorrow' - and if Cindy had not stood her ground, no one would ever know that Caylee was missing.

As for Casey sleeping in her home, that's unconditional love of Cindy's daughter, and no matter where Casey may be sleeping, she's either going to come clean with the truth, or not.

Her month+ silence didn't seem to fare much better when she sat in jail.

This was probably the first time Cindy had ever put her foot down so to speak to Casey. She had been covering for her misdeeds of stealing, lying etc. for years.

You speak of a parent's unconditional love. That doesn't mean that we are supposed to just ignore the wrongs our children do. We make them take responsibility for their actions, and face the consequences for those actions. That is out of love for our children.

Unconditional love is when you love your child, no matter what they've done, no matter the person they have become. However, it doesn't mean that you keep enabling them to do the same things over and over. That is nothing but crippling them from becoming productive adults.

I understand unconditional love. I don't understand this lunacy that has been going on with these parents and their children.

Casey should have been made to face the consequences long ago, it might have saved Caylee and the Anthony family a lot of grief.

As for the protestors, if the family wants them to go away, the best way to accomplish that is to give them nothing. Don't engage them, don't feed them as you see them doing.

They will become bored with no interaction, just as trolls on a message board will become bored if people ignore them. Eventually, they'll go away.

Same with the media. They will stay as long as they get a show like we saw last night.

:)

[kitty1182]

I laughted when the protester went and got it out of the trash and stood it back up,poor lee all that work for nothing:D

I liked that little man..:)

[frances1]

And the checks mean what? They were forged? Not a big deal, compared to a missing Child. :rose:


Are you just naturally obtuse, or do you have to work at it? Fourth one for "ignore".

[chrissybot]

I know G&C loved Caylee without a doubt just as my mother loves my children. I believe they would have done anything for her.

However, I think they were trying to get her to take more responsibility for her daughter in an attempt to get her to 'move on' with her life and get some direction for her future. I think towards the end of this whole fiasco they were maybe pulling back some on the babysitting and expecting her to pick up the slack.

Ricardo said that Casey brought Caylee over to his house to spend the night 3-4 nights a week and that they all slept in the same bed. I found that pretty shocking...not that couples let their children sleep with them, I am not against that. However, this relationship that she was having with Ricardo went from Feb I think until May. It was hardly a long-term or serious relationship IMO. There is no reason that Caylee should have been in that man's bed. But why would Casey have her there with them if she had a choice? If she could have taken her home and tucked her into bed and then come back, I think she would have.

I think this is the reason she lied about times that she had to work so that she could have some free time without Caylee. I think George and Cindy were her only babysitters other than friends occasionally. I think she needed the fake emails for the days when she wanted Cindy to babysit.

I think she may have told them that she had another babysitter for Caylee so she could breeze outta the house and say, "going to work, gonna drop Caylee at nanny's." Then she went out and took her daughter to parties or spent the night with guys, whatever it is she did. I don't think Cindy would have approved of Caylee being in the middle of these parties and drinking, etc.

I have heard a lot of people ask, "Why would she kill her when she could have just left Caylee with her parents and done whatever she wanted to?" I truly don't believe that was the case. I think C&G were getting fed up with her and they were not going to support her going out to have a good time as often as she wanted to. When she flew the coop over father's day weekend she no longer had anyone to watch Caylee. That is when this all exploded.

If, in fact, Cindy had hinted to Casey before she left that she would try to take custody of Caylee, it may have been what set this whole unfortunate chain of events into motion. What would she use to manipulate Cindy if she didn't have Caylee anymore?

JMO

I agree 100%.:beer: Good post. Now back a few pages to play catch-up.:seeya:

[Broderick]

Where did anyone say the monetary crimes were more significant (or even equally significant) to a missing child? What am I missing here? :shrug:

In court, the missing child would have nothing to do with the economic charges.

[Tiger]

i hope that was a typo:eek:
surely you meant "buy crack"
TY, i needed to laugh, i make typos tooo

I love winnie posts:) But that was to funny...:lol:

[Duckaroo]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.

Excellent Idea..I'll add to that, I'd get every picture of Caylee I had, and cover her walls with them. If she said anything, I'd tell her I thought it would help her to feel closer to Caylee, until Zanny the Nanny brings her home.


:beer:

[beemeup]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7410014&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1


Baez can get Casey back out of jail within 24 hours so this trip would be rather speedy. LOL

I knew this was going to be like sitting and watching a tennis match.

[Ms. Monk]

Definition of Abandoned Child in Florida:

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)

'Abandoned' means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child, or in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver responsible for the child's welfare, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and makes no effort to communicate with the child, which situation is sufficient to evince a willful rejection of parental obligations. If the efforts of such parent or legal custodian, or caregiver primarily responsible for the child's welfare, to support and communicate with the child are, in the opinion of the court, only marginal efforts that do not evince a settled purpose to assume all parental duties, the court may declare the child to be abandoned.

So.... does this mean that Casey could also face abandonment charges in addition to neglect because she isn't helping LE find Caylee (if there is any truth that she did give her to this Z person)?

Would that lead to jail time?

I am concerned that they haven't pressed any homicide or manslaughter charges because the forensics aren't as supportive of that as the leaks from LE are implying.

[bchand]

Are you just naturally obtuse, or do you have to work at it? Fourth one for "ignore".

I'll bet my list matches your list.

[forensicnut]

You know what...

There was a lady here locally to me, that was arrested today for trying to sell her baby to a dealer for my crack...

It blew my mind.
BUT it made me think about this theory...

Possible, it is.

I posted all the reasons why I'm leaning more toward the drug theory, the other day. This was just one more. I don't think Casey sold Caylee though. Part of my "drug theory" was that it could be possible that someone (drug connection) threatened to hurt or harm Caylee if Casey didn't do what they asked from her. That thought is of course a part of the scenario in whole.

Also, that's why I wondering about the drug diversion program, but you're the only one that even answered me. I'm chopped liver today, I guess.

[WillowInFlight]

Is the princess home yet?

[OneUp]

I'd strip that room down to a bed also. no computer, no tv, no radio, no video games, no nothing. just a bed. let her spend her days in there totally alone with nothing to do.I would have saved my time and money and gotten off my duff to search.
I DID spend weeks searching day in and day out. While not the one who found my baby, I was at the site she was left at when she was found, and I stayed by her side every second I could when she was found though it was too late for that to comfort her.
It comforted ME to know she was being handled gently and with respect.

[margaret kep]

They did check for ID.

Page #4 http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09.03.08_Frau d4.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

IIRC it was stated casey only had a driver's permit, and yet drove all over town with just Caylee (underage) in vehicle. and if so, why would parents lend her their vehicle?:confused:

[5boxersmom]

ROFLMAO!! :lol:

I know. I needed that today.:lol:

Caylee:rose:

[Armchairdet]

i agree. there were probably signs that casey had mental problems way back when she was a kid. some parents either choose to not take them in for help for whatever reason or they just dont realize they need help. either way, casey needed help. instead they probably just spoiled her & let her get away with stuff thinking she would grow out of it.


I agree Casey has some mental health issues. I read she even was treated for a seizure. I know you can have one without the other, but there could be a connection. In any event I don't think they spoiled her, I think they protected her in the beginning, then they just became tired and did whatever to make life go as easily as possible. I think she may have had a lot to do with the problems in C&G's marriage. I think they keep digging the hole deeper and deeper, and have been lying for her for so long they don't know how not to lie for her. I am not even sure the lying is just to protect her. I think it is to protect them. Not that they did anything wrong legally. But the guilt of not getting her help soon enough, not knowing how bad she was, has to keep them up at night.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Your crack?

Edit time. :)



:lol:

You just made me spew coke all over my screen over my own typo


whoa...so, is this where I plead the 5th or just start making up stories denying the sell of my crack :biggrin:

[Peach]

I myself just don't understand. The facts speak for themselves. My guess is that some people just could not pass the bar, but are still compelled to be defense attorneys from their computer chairs.

The facts:
Decomp
Chloroform
theft
child never reported missing by the mother
grandparents asking for a defense fund
stuffed toys that were donated thrown in trash


:lol::lol::lol:

[Albini]

Just reposting my question

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.

Can you explain how far it is from being false?


[/QUOTE]

[impartial]

They are key players in this case and most of the opinions about them are due to their actions and statement. Most on here do not assume things about them with no basis of fact to back it up. Most of us here don't attack posters and searchers through our posts and claim that's what the Anthony's believe or think so they can get by with bashing posters personally. Most of us attak the veracity of the post and it's contents not the posters and public themselves. There is and should be a difference. with some there isn't.

I may not like what you say but i don't need to make attacks on you for saying it. I'll debate or attack the contents unless the person has attacked or berated the poster and not the post.

Just my opinion


I agree ... but it seems to me that certain posters are continually criticized for their posts ... not the post itself, but the poster.

GrandmaGA has been called Cindy on this board, and well as other things. I looked up her profile, she registered here well before Caylee went missing.

I come here to find out about the case itself, because it really isn't being covered here with the exception of NG, who I will not watch, and Greta, who comes on at a time frame that I am unable to watch.

I look at this case more on a technical basis, and even though I get flustered with some of the hostility, I like seeing differing opinions ... it's a lesson on how different people perceive the same set of facts, and come out with different opinions.


:seeya:

IMO

PS ... God bless you for expending your energies to search for Caylee.

[WillowInFlight]

I love winnie posts:) But that was to funny...:lol:
:lol: That was pretty funny. innocent but funny!

[cassidy]

Broderick is right - 50 years for these Economic crimes will never happen, and although some may not want to admit it, I think inside it's no great secret.

That aside, do you really want her to do 50 years for something other than being held accountable for Caylee's disappearance?

Is it just about getting her to do jail time, or actually making her take accountability through appropriate charges?

Dunnie's post was right on target!One does not preclude the other. She can be charged and convicted of fraud and the investigation into Caylee's disappearance will continue. tucking her away in prison while that happens isn't a bad thing.

[kitty1182]

I would have saved my time and money and gotten off my duff to search.
I DID spend weeks searching day in and day out. While not the one who found my baby, I was at the site she was left at when she was found, and I stayed by her side every second I could when she was found though it was too late for that to comfort her.
It comforted ME to know she was being handled gently and with respect.

God bless:rose:

[kOOkie1]

Darn i missed it all !!!!!!

..This is the one from yesterday with Lee

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=649_1221120035

[Chevalier]

It says "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. " *





* obscure movie reference, from "As Good As It Gets.".........lol. :tongue:
Honestly, it's so true. I wish the Anthony's would save themselves and stick that girl back in jail where she belongs. I know it won't happen. They'll let her destroy them.


That explains it. Thanks for the explanation. :)
Where's the banging head against the wall icon?


Read the report. LE has the checks. jmo
That would make too much sense LOL.


I liked that little man..:)
I liked him too. He just appeared from behind Lee with that sign, "here's your sign, lady."



Would somebody please go clear the cobwebs from the bottom left corner of the cam?

[WinnieLeigh7]

Oh my my my..now we know what she does when she aint a posting haha (joking)

That was somebody else (Zanny) posting, it happened after I went to huh get my car that had been towed, because my employer, John McCain sent me to coordinate his speech coming up...

Oh NM

:D

[oldbluesmith]

So.... does this mean that Casey could also face abandonment charges in addition to neglect because she isn't helping LE find Caylee (if there is any truth that she did give her to this Z person)?

Would that lead to jail time?

I am concerned that they haven't pressed any homicide or manslaughter charges because the forensics aren't as supportive of that as the leaks from LE are implying.I don't know. I think there are charges that could be added at the time of trial that could include the this. The abandonment may be the result of neglect. I found this under the page titled: Definitions of Child Abuse and Neglect Florida. So does this mean that neglect is the same as abandonment? JMHO

[msjoni]

I liked that little man..:)

Me too, I had a feeling he was a neighbor and not a protester.

[WillowInFlight]

I think so...:o

It looks like they have tape along the side walk in front of their house, isn't that city property?

[Broderick]

Yep, until they finally figure out if they can file murder charges, that revolving door will continue.


I actually don't mind. I think the revolving door is keeping her from comfort which is a tactic the police are using to try and get her to give "credible information" as the chief has requested many times in public.

[joolz]

I'll bet my list matches your list.


:lol:I'll see your four and raise you two.

[bchand]

Is the princess home yet?

Not sure but it looks like quite a crowd is gathering. She should be home by 4 right?

[OneUp]

I agree that what that poster posts is her opinion. But I also believe what EVERY poster posts is merely an opinion. For example: Cindy and George don't want Caylee's body ever found; Cindy and George are totally responsible for the current "circus;" Cindy and George KNOW that Caylee is dead.....and on and on.

ALL we post here is just our opinion. Even WITHOUT "IMO" after our posts. That goes for everyone.You are absolutely correct. And I respect the way in which you choose to share your opinions, even the ones I choose to disagree with. It is nice how that works!:)
I'm getting sick of waiting for November myself, aren't you ready for the trial to begin so we can see some of the witnesses on the stand? I like to see a person when they are speaking myself. I find my opinion on their truthfulness can be greatly affected by their demeanor. Definitely, for the time being I will take their word as truth over that of a known liar any day fo the week...but it will beinteresting to see who presents in public as they present "on paper".
Do you think they will televise this trial for neglect?
JMO, as always.

[bchand]

Me too, I had a feeling he was a neighbor and not a protester.



I have to admit, one of my favorite protestors was the lady who was yelling: "Where do you people come from? OHIO?"

[summer4meplz]

even if they never find Caylee's body, may she rest in peace, casey still has to go to trial on numerous charges and hopefully will be convicted and sentenced to the max on all charges.....




:rose:in memory of 9.11.01 may we NEVER FORGET

[Dogmatic]

Fox news said Baez was going to turn her in. Casey cashed a check on Amy's acct for $250 on the 15th at BofA and they said they will file charges, also the investigator at Target. There is also a payment to AT&T for $574. that looks like an auto payment. Amy's acct was overdrawn by the time she got home. Wonder what Casey was going to do with the $250 cash on the 15th.

Probably figured her friend wouldn't call the cops.

I feel bad for Amy. Nothing like getting burned by a friend.

[johnielee333]

I agree that what that poster posts is her opinion. But I also believe what EVERY poster posts is merely an opinion. For example: Cindy and George don't want Caylee's body ever found; Cindy and George are totally responsible for the current "circus;" Cindy and George KNOW that Caylee is dead.....and on and on.

ALL we post here is just our opinion. Even WITHOUT "IMO" after our posts. That goes for everyone.

ITA :beer:

[msgatorslayer]

Hi all.

So, no new arrest, but a new arrest can come at any time. {Shakes head} Guess I didn't miss anything, lol.:seeya:

[dtviewer]

Considering the fact that LE has one person and only one person listed as a POI, and that would be Casey, - yes, that's misplaced anger, but you're right in the term that you used, "found", if you choose to seek hate in the Anthonys, then that's surely what your eyes will find.


Ahh, so now we are spinning 'hate' to 'anger'.

Wow, you must be getting dizzy by now. Round and round you go....

[Lorna]

Serious question - What in the world do you think that Cindy can do to make Casey talk?

She can't, period.

So all of this dramatic "Cindy is covering Casey's butt" is nothing more than theatrics.

Serious answer here. She can stop enabling her. She can let her sit in jail and await the court date on her charges for theft.

It might not make her talk about Caylee, but it will make her take responsibility for once in her life for something.

The only theatrics going on in this case has been done by the family and a few select people who choose to make a scene outside of their house.

However, the family is helping to perpetuate this also.

:)

[johnielee333]

Hate hate hate...blah, blah blah....:rolleyes:

love love love !!! :biggrin:

[Broderick]

One does not preclude the other. She can be charged and convicted of fraud and the investigation into Caylee's disappearance will continue. tucking her away in prison while that happens isn't a bad thing.


That is correct. She can serve time for the crimes as she should, and it will be ordinary and customary time spent for the level of crime. Maybe a 2 year sentence tops. The jail system doesn't have room for these types of crimes and most of the sentence would be parole and supervision. She broke the law by stealing and forging. She should be punished for that.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I love winnie posts:) But that was to funny...:lol:

Yea, I even "Cracked" myself up on that on :o

[kOOkie1]

I have to admit, one of my favorite protestors was the lady who was yelling: "Where do you people come from? OHIO?"

..LOL I know that was too funny!

[Pooh]

Thats why I dont use it. :seeya:

Oh no! You're not "Chillin" anymore?? Darn! Well, good to see you!! And I adopted ignore for the first time today. I'd be gone if I didn't! LOL

I agree with Shark on that cobweb on the lense thing with the webcam. Driving me nuts. HA!

[True2Blues]

It looks like they have tape along the side walk in front of their house, isn't that city property?

Yes, but the Anthonys think it's theirs.

[num1barb]

Just reposting my question

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.

Can you explain how far it is from being false?


[/QUOTE]

FYI _ don't hold your breath waiting for an answer to a direct question....you'll turn blue and pass out before you get one. IMO based on questions I and others have asked that have not been answered.

[oldbluesmith]

I found this interesting reading of a website for identity theft in Florida that includes check fraud also:

http://myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/4492d797dc0bd92f85256cb80055fb97/f6995a8304fb723685256cca0059975f!OpenDocument

[Syd'sMiMi]

Noooo,please don't go or the trolls win

Using ignore and my blood pressure is going back to normal. So I'm sticking around. Wanna know when she's led back to the pokey even if it is for 24 hours. ;)

[Lorna]

A few knuckleheads with signs are waiting for her arrival!!

Looks like a white park bench out there with something written on it.
Geeze!!

I have enlarged the photo and cannot tell what it is or what the letters are spelling out.

I've lost my cam picture and I can't gawk anymore right now. :(

[OneUp]

LOL So we should all love Casey, right?

You've somehow forgotten, amid your intense misplaced hate for George & Cindy, that Casey IS the POI, as noted by LE.I don't love or hate casey, I find her to be utterly disgusting and an affront to humanity unfit for the honor of the title "parent"...but neither love nor hate enters into the equasion as I reserve those emotions for things more personal to me.
I, however, do not have a desire to physically harm her (unlike you) I wish to see justice brought on behalf of Caylee and to see that Casey pays to the full extent of the law for her especially depraved crimes ( In case it is hard to tell, the "especially depraved crimes" portion of that is my opinion and not yet fact).
JMO.

[summer4meplz]

I actually don't mind. I think the revolving door is keeping her from comfort which is a tactic the police are using to try and get her to give "credible information" as the chief has requested many times in public.


i personally think casey loves the attention...absolutely lives in a fantasy world every day and these days, she thinks she's the new Britney"

[Anakerie]

Webcam question: Does anyone know what the big sign on the ground at the curb says?

[num1barb]

I actually don't mind. I think the revolving door is keeping her from comfort which is a tactic the police are using to try and get her to give "credible information" as the chief has requested many times in public.


ITA. I liken it to a game of chess

[johnielee333]

when one poster doesnt agree with what most posters believe, why do all kinds of posters start getting on that one poster ???

3 :rose::rose::rose: for Caylee.

[Albini]

You come to a missing, presumed dead toddler forum to get your laughts? Gee.
:no:


SPIN:rolleyes:

[Ms. Monk]

Does anybody know why these protesters start showing up around 4 in the afternoon? Is it to taunt Casey or do you all think its more to get themselves on the evening news? IMO the protesters are wasting their time. Casey isn't going to break. We will never get the truth from her.

[dtviewer]

You come to a missing, presumed dead toddler forum to get your laughts? Gee.
:no:


If thats what you got from my post, then I am going to have to agree with DaddysGirl for once.
Reading comprehension IS really missing from this board.;)

[WinnieLeigh7]

**Squeak, Squeakkkkk**

Still wiping up coke from the computer, looks like I need to go back to *ahem* work...might have to buy another one...

[Dogmatic]

The in/out of jail tactic is making her dig her heels in deeper.
She is way over the jail experience and may look forward to
going in/out-- she gets a great deal of attention when she
is released!! LOL Bodygards and protection from Baez. She
doesn't mind the drama at all. She will perform her high 5's
upon entering her escape vehicle-- and love the helicopters
flying over the top of her.

She is winning this game in her own sick mind-- IMO



I tend to agree. Her entry into the Hot Body Contest displays a certain love of attention whether the attention is positive or negative.

Once you have a child the attention you are used to receiving normally turns to the child. This makes some parents reach out for the wrong type of attention.

[Anakerie]

Me too, I had a feeling he was a neighbor and not a protester.
I agree. He seemed to know Lee and the family and Lee seemed to know that nice man. I thought it was great when he retrieved the sign and then went back for the stand/holder for the woman. I hope he picked up the dog's dish and returned it to her too.

[WillowInFlight]

Does anybody know why these protesters start showing up around 4 in the afternoon? Is it to taunt Casey or do you all think its more to get themselves on the evening news? IMO the protesters are wasting their time. Casey isn't going to break. We will never get the truth from her.
IMO its to taunt Casey.

[True2Blues]

I actually don't mind. I think the revolving door is keeping her from comfort which is a tactic the police are using to try and get her to give "credible information" as the chief has requested many times in public.

Casey has no one to blame for the 'revolving door' but herself. She committed a series of crimes, she got caught, she's going to have to deal with it. Anyone else would be arrested for doing those things, why should she be the exception?

I don't believe she'll ever give anyone any credible information, no matter what they do.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I would like to get back on topic but I don't want you guys to think I'm ignoring your posts so i'll reply then we can get back on topic to avoid getting closed down.

Savannahstar and impartial. If certain posters would not twist what others say and go after the poster instead of the posts they would not get the treatment they receive from some. Especially the constant twisting that those who believe Caylee is no longer alive into they would RATHER find a dead body and not a live Caylee. That is purposeful twisting and baiting and uncalled for. Nobody would RATHER find a dead body than a live person. They know this yet they twist and bait with that comment along with many other comments. There can be debate and differing opinion without all that. IMO

Thank you both for your kind words as well. That was very nice and much appreciated, :seeya:

[Albini]

Both have been stated on this thread if you read the posts.

Both of which are misguided toward the Anthonys.

I understand your position, and I do respect it.

But honestly, I dont feel that my personal feelings towards the Anthonys are misguided.

What did they do that earns them my respect or admiration?

I dont hate them, never said I did. But I dont feel any kinship with them either.

[WillowInFlight]

Looks like a few more knuckleheads are showing up. I can't tell what that white object is with a message on it. White park bench? I just can't make it out. I can only enlarge so far and then it becomes a larger blurr. LOL

I'm counting 9, but I can't make out what the signs say

[Lorna]

And what has the supposed "stonewalling", which in translation equates to denail, & grief, - have to do with the discovery of Caylee?

They've not hampered that. So?

You honestly believe that the lying, hiding, and not cooperating with LE or the searchers in this case has not hampered finding Caylee?

Talk about denial.

:)

[day2day]

I have to admit, one of my favorite protestors was the lady who was yelling: "Where do you people come from? OHIO?"

Hey nowwwww!! LOL! I was born and nearly raised a buckeye..!!:seeya:

[ginky41]

The in/out of jail tactic is making her dig her heels in deeper.
She is way over the jail experience and may look forward to
going in/out-- she gets a great deal of attention when she
is released!! LOL Bodygards and protection from Baez. She
doesn't mind the drama at all. She will perform her high 5's
upon entering her escape vehicle-- and love the helicopters
flying over the top of her.

She is winning this game in her own sick mind-- IMO

Perhaps they will find her NOT eligible for bail this time. She is certainly setting new precedents. Time to make some more!

[num1barb]

SPIN:rolleyes:


Like a Maytag.

I wonder if Baez will take princess to the SO or will LE show up and arrest her live on NG again. I really don't care one way or the other. As long as she's not comfortably lounging at home or her attorney's office it's all good to me. I don't like thinking about her all snuggled into her bed at night, while Caylee is out there somewhere.

[WillowInFlight]

ok, who is going to call Nancy Grace tonight? I will if someone tells me the number...I'm central time. I see we now have a motive...Did anyone catch what Grant(roommate) said the other night on nancy? He said... We asked Casey not to bring Caylee to the apt at night because of all the people that are there at night.. ie: partying. Ok, now...Cindy kicked Casey out Father's day night. Therefore, she could not take Caylee over to TonE's that night. I believe she did give her something to sleep and she never woke up. How do I make that a question?:shrug:

I would say it just like that, and then add "could that be a possible theory"

[OneUp]

Yep, until they finally figure out if they can file murder charges, that revolving door will continue.

NO. the revolving door will likely get stuck sometime in November ( the 13th?) when she goes to court on obstruction/neglect/falsifying info. charges. At which point she will face the neweer chat-rges from her jail cell IMO.
I guess it MAY take a bit longer if the trial runs long, but the initial charges seem pretty open and shut to me.
JMO.

[dtviewer]

Both have been stated on this thread if you read the posts.

Both of which are misguided toward the Anthonys.



Your post probably should have read "The Anthonies misguided anger and hate are in no way helping to find Caylee."

Because it seems to me they have been directing their anger at the public, LE, Tim, the media, and anyone else except Casey......;)

[Armchairdet]

ok, who is going to call Nancy Grace tonight? I will if someone tells me the number...I'm central time. I see we now have a motive...Did anyone catch what Grant(roommate) said the other night on nancy? He said... We asked Casey not to bring Caylee to the apt at night because of all the people that are there at night.. ie: partying. Ok, now...Cindy kicked Casey out Father's day night. Therefore, she could not take Caylee over to TonE's that night. I believe she did give her something to sleep and she never woke up. How do I make that a question?:shrug:

Ask has the possibility (your post here) been explored?

[marshmallow]

Ok going back to lurking, this is too much for me! CYA again sometime.




please don't stop posting.

[Albini]

To add to your post if you dont mind..but why should anothers opinion of the Anthonys bother anyone on this board? We all have an opinion and shouldnt let someone elses bother us.

I Never mind when you chip in :)

[bchand]

Webcam question: Does anyone know what the big sign on the ground at the curb says?

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone

[Rebel Rouzer]

ok, who is going to call Nancy Grace tonight? I will if someone tells me the number...I'm central time. I see we now have a motive...Did anyone catch what Grant(roommate) said the other night on nancy? He said... We asked Casey not to bring Caylee to the apt at night because of all the people that are there at night.. ie: partying. Ok, now...Cindy kicked Casey out Father's day night. Therefore, she could not take Caylee over to TonE's that night. I believe she did give her something to sleep and she never woke up. How do I make that a question?:shrug:


I thought about caling lastnight but didn't i might call in tonight. Do you have to call in ahead of time or as soon as the show starts or when?

[Lorna]

Says who? The nosy public, who is drooling for information into the Anthonys private lives, and who also, aren't going to get it no matter how much they stomp their feet?

In what possible stretch of the imagination did 'they have to choose' ?

They didn't, and haven't.

And if you think that by Casey being back home somehow inhibits the discovery of Caylee's body, explain that, because it's so far from being true.
Au contraire I think we (the nosy, drooling public) have found out a lot of information that we didn't care to know about the Anthonys.

And we didn't even have to stomp our feet, they gave it to us on a silver platter.

:)

[day2day]

Perhaps they will find her NOT eligible for bail this time. She is certainly setting new precedents. Time to make some more!

I would love to know the terms of her big bond. Maybe Lenny will show up and tell us! :seeya:

[True2Blues]

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone


I thought that's what it looked like.

[sukapi]

I have to ask a question here to EVERYONE on this board. Do you want Casey in prison, or do you want Justice for Caylee?

I don't give a rats *** how much money she stole from anyone, I want to know what happened to Caylee. JMO.

Putting her in prison for monetary crimes does not get Caylee any justice. :rose:

:beer:
I Tee-totally agree FIND CAYLEE first - deal with the socio later, stolen money, hot checks, theft are nothing compared to the life of this precious, precious little angel :rose: For Caylee

[Regina.Lampert]

The in/out of jail tactic is making her dig her heels in deeper.
She is way over the jail experience and may look forward to
going in/out-- she gets a great deal of attention when she
is released!! LOL Bodygards and protection from Baez. She
doesn't mind the drama at all. She will perform her high 5's
upon entering her escape vehicle-- and love the helicopters
flying over the top of her.

She is winning this game in her own sick mind-- IMO


I wonder about that, because each time they swoop in and arrest her (and I must admit to loving her being cuffed and taken out to the catcalls of protesters) they are attempting to break her down, making her go thru the routine of being processed. Part of that is being taken into a room where detectives can "talk" to her, imo. I would love to know what they say to her, bet it's not pleasant.

I look forward to another arrest, hopefully on Friday night, during the Nancy Grace Show, just like last time.

[Syd'sMiMi]

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone

Geez, that is too much. They need to put her back in jail and leave her there. She's not going to tell where she left little Caylee so let her sleep on a hard bed while looking at the sink and toilet. She deserves nothing better.

[Anakerie]

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone
Thank you for answering my question. I was beginning to think I was posting invisibly.

I think I'll just go back to lurking occasionally.. Too frustrating to read all the sniping and spinning... *sigh*

[Lorna]

There are a few standing close to the driveway, George will blow a cork.. :eek:

My camera came back up! I am fully engaged in gawking again. :seeya:

[ginky41]

I would love to know the terms of her big bond. Maybe Lenny will show up and tell us! :seeya:

Or some other ANONYMOUS donor. :shrug:

[Velouria]

Bubble gum money to them, since they have millions in that filing cabinet. LOL


And don't forget, there's always "donations".

[day2day]

I wonder about that, because each time they swoop in and arrest her (and I must admit to loving her being cuffed and taken out to the catcalls of protesters) they are attempting to break her down, making her go thru the routine of being processed. Part of that is being taken into a room where detectives can "talk" to her, imo. I would love to know what they say to her, bet it's not pleasant.

I look forward to another arrest, hopefully on Friday night, during the Nancy Grace Show, just like last time.

ITA..Can you imagine knowing you were going to be arrested..and not knowing when? Alot of this is to work on her "mind"! I would love to be a fly on the wall when they talk to her!!

[Boxer]

Au contraire I think we (the nosy, drooling public) have found out a lot of information that we didn't care to know about the Anthonys.

And we didn't even have to stomp our feet, they gave it to us on a silver platter.

:)



this is true...I found that my definition of love for a grandchild and child is very different from the Anthonys...and I'm glad. Putting a stop to Casey's nonsense a long time ago had absolutely nothing to do with not loving her and everything to do with loving her. Didn't they want her to be a productive person? I guess not.

[Vibo]

I wonder if the armed forces could break Casey and make her talk with some of their tactics?:lol:

[Broderick]

Doesn't seem to be working real well for them then.

Who is to say? They have more experience in these matters. I think people want immediate justice and closure which usually doesn't happen in most cases. It takes time. I think the television sitcom and docudramas have created the lack of patience in people. Law enforcement has nothing but time on their hands because they got involved so late in the disappearance.

As we have heard, there are stages of grief. I bet there are stages of criminality too. If she is a person that creates a new reality each day as some have suggested, we may never get anything from her that is real. Most persons of interest lawyer up and quit talking. That is normal. Law enforcement deals with this all the time and they build their cases without it through forensics, interviews, and other assorted evidence of crime.

[msgatorslayer]

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone

:eek: AW, thats, not right. I can't believe someone did that.

[Albini]

:beer:
I Tee-totally agree FIND CAYLEE first - deal with the socio later, stolen money, hot checks, theft are nothing compared to the life of this precious, precious little angel :rose: For Caylee

My thought on that is

1. She commited those crimes and needs to be punished regardless of who she is. She did the crime she needs to pay for it.

2. Maybe the LE is using these tatics in order for Casey to feel like "I am going to jail for these crimes anyways, I may as well tell where Caylee is, they may let me make a plea.""


JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

I thought that's what it looked like.

Sad.:( I wonder what the family thinks of that?

[forensicnut]

Thank you for answering my question. I was beginning to think I was posting invisibly.

I think I'll just go back to lurking occasionally.. Too frustrating to read all the sniping and spinning... *sigh*

Don't feel bad. I'm invisable today too. All I asked is if Casey can claim that she's a drug addict...say it's the reason why she stole... and get a drug diversion program sentence instead of jail time and nobody answered me.

I'll go lurk with you.

[Dogmatic]

I wonder if the armed forces could break Casey and make her talk with some of their tactics?:lol:

This case has made me a sudden fan of water boarding

[ginky41]

I wonder if the armed forces could break Casey and make her talk with some of their tactics?:lol:

We did suggest waterboarding MANY weeks ago.

[OneUp]

Thank you.

I don't know if it will be televised. I almost wish NOT....the last one I watched (actually via live stream) was Mary Winkler.....I do work, and it's so hard to keep up with boards as well as an actual trial while working. :lol:I (thankfully) have TIVO so I record things of interest and watch them when the "Amazing Sleep Free Baby" is up in the wee hours.
I sometimes feel ambiguous about watching trials, but the body language in this one will be worth my while.
JMO.

[Dogmatic]

:eek: AW, thats, not right. I can't believe someone did that.


Fake tombstone??????

That's over the top

[WillowInFlight]

My camera came back up! I am fully engaged in gawking again. :seeya:

You voyeur. :lol:

[kitty1182]

:eek: AW, thats, not right. I can't believe someone did that.

Yeah, that was way over the top to do that:no:

[Velouria]

when one poster doesnt agree with what most posters believe, why do all kinds of posters start getting on that one poster ???

3 :rose::rose::rose: for Caylee.

That really depends. When ONE poster is constantly replying with ad hominem attacks, then yes, you can expect other posters to take exception.

[day2day]

This case has made me a sudden fan of water boarding

:eek: ...even i hadn't thought of that ;)!!

[Ionmhainn]

:eek: AW, thats, not right. I can't believe someone did that.


I agree. For shame. imo

[dvsone]

I keep thinkin SP got out of SQ and is now a woman.... Casey.

[Rebel Rouzer]

My thought on that is

1. She commited those crimes and needs to be punished regardless of who she is. She did the crime she needs to pay for it.

2. Maybe the LE is using these tatics in order for Casey to feel like "I am going to jail for these crimes anyways, I may as well tell where Caylee is, they may let me make a plea.""


JMO.

That's along the lines of what i was thinking. Get less time on these other charges if she comes clean or get life and not the DP if she comes clean. I think it's something along those lines.

Agree with both your comments.

[Dogmatic]

I will have to agree. They need to stick to signs directed at Casey.


Exactly. They are antagonizing and provoking violence. Not a peaceful demonstration

[Ms. Monk]

I will have to agree. They need to stick to signs directed at Casey.


I don't think Casey sees this as bad. She just loves any kind of attention IMO. Movie star shades and high-5s in the attorney's office tell me that she's just loving all this attention. Caylee is a faraway memory to her at this point from what I've seen.

[msgatorslayer]

Fake tombstone??????

That's over the top

I didn't even look at the link. Wonder if its the same person who brought the freaky doll days ago. Someone likes shock value, IMO.:chicken:

[kitty1182]

GA is not gonna like those people being in his driveway..:eek:

[day2day]

Did someone dare cross the line? Oh dear its...hammertime

Umm they are on the driveway...:chicken:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Fake tombstone??????

That's over the top

I agree. Some people are taking it too far and only do things for the attention. Hoping to get a shot on media.

[Lorna]

Looks like a few more knuckleheads are showing up. I can't tell what that white object is with a message on it. White park bench? I just can't make it out. I can only enlarge so far and then it becomes a larger blurr. LOL

Thank you Serenity. I just lost my gawk ability again. Hopefully I'll be fully restored soon. :seeya:

[Armchairdet]

I didn't even look at the link. Wonder if its the same person who brought the freaky doll days ago. Someone likes shock value, IMO.:chicken:

IMO hearing him talk I think it was the same man. IMO

[Broderick]

I don't think Casey sees this as bad. She just loves any kind of attention IMO. Movie star shades and high-5s in the attorney's office tell me that she's just loving all this attention. Caylee is a faraway memory to her at this point from what I've seen.

I would consider the high 5 classless behavior, as class eludes most in the family. I think it was more in relation to getting in to the building safely. I don't think it was as nefarious as they were celebrating getting away with something. I would imagine they were both nervous making the trip alone together without bodyguards or the safety of Baez.

[Dogmatic]

Very over the top. I agree with the 'wheres Caylee' signs but this is going to bring George and Lee out swinging.

And I would back their reaction with 100% approval. But that's just me.

Lose the tombstone sign losers!

[True2Blues]

Sad.:( I wonder what the family thinks of that?

I doubt they care. I believe they wrote Caylee off back in the beginning. Not that it doesn't present the opportunity for a public performance, but if they're waiting to get paid for it, they may be out of luck.

[kakax]

Both have been stated on this thread if you read the posts.

Both of which are misguided toward the Anthonys.



So what....

[day2day]

Very over the top. I agree with the 'wheres Caylee' signs but this is going to bring George and Lee out swinging.

I'm not sure about that Flmom. Yesterday when Lee tore up the sign..the other girls sign had a pic of lee and casey high fiving over a grave and he didn't bother her?! :shrug:

IF i was going to tear up a sign that would have been the one. jmo :shrug:

[EGirl]

Yeah, that was way over the top to do that:no:

:( It is just wrong.



Praying today is the day this beautiful baby comes home :rose:

[bchand]

Umm they are on the driveway...:chicken:

Some serious yelling going on now.

[Anakerie]

:eek: AW, thats, not right. I can't believe someone did that.
The fake tombstone is a lot better than the signs saying "baby killer" and the screaming teenagers that were out there.

[WillowInFlight]

GA is not gonna like those people being in his driveway..:eek:

Oh wow, they look hostile. Time to call the law I guess. Whats that pink thing, a horn?

[kitty1182]

Looks like they are looking towards the back of the house?

[Dogmatic]

Some serious yelling going on now.


Another day of "peaceful demonstrations"......................sigh

[shelbar53]

No, it's not elder abuse. LOL

If that money was in a private account, which has been reported, it's then up to Cindy's mother to press charges, and her alone.

No matter WHAT account though, it would never legally be misconstrued as "elder abuse". lol

elder abuse financial:e.g. illegal or unauthorized use of a person’s property, money, pension book or other valuables (including changing the person's will to name the abuser as heir), often fraudulently obtaining power of attorney, followed by deprivation of money or other property, or by eviction from own home. So if that money was alloted to care for her ggf's personal needs then it would be condidered elder abuse. If i remember correctly it was the rest home facility that brought it to the ggm attention.

[True2Blues]

Umm they are on the driveway...:chicken:

They need to watch that. Is there someone in the back yard or on the side of the house? They look like they're talking to somebody.

[kitty1182]

Oh wow, they look hostile. Time to call the law I guess. Whats that pink thing, a horn?

Wonder if GA and CA are home?

[Broderick]

Taunting is taunting. How do you determine where the line is drawn? If the protesters have a right to be there, what difference does it make as far as the message they are conveying?

Taunting is a penalty in football. Protesting is taunting in its own way, but not against the law.

[BrownEyedF]

Wonderful post and I agree...

Except for one question, to state that they weren't letting Casey get by with not 'stepping up' and that's why she had Caylee with her all the time (sleeping in Ricardo's bed, etc.)...

and then for Casey to want freedom after Cindy threatened to take Caylee from her...
Well, obviously Casey could have given Caylee to Cindy and went on her lil' "party style" life, right?

I think she could have went on with her party lifestyle if she gave Caylee to Cindy, but she would have no longer had a place to live. She wouldn't have had free electricity, car, car insurance, food, etc. She needed Caylee so she could manipulate Cindy. She really didn't have anywhere to go. She had places to crash, but it didn't seem to me like anyone was asking her to move in (for free). Amy offered to be her roommate, but she would have had to shell out some money for that. Casey wanted to continue to be supported by her family AND have her daughter supported also.

[kakax]

I agree. Some people are taking it too far and only do things for the attention. Hoping to get a shot on media.

I agree. Give em torches and we are back in Salem. It makes me very uneasy.

[msgatorslayer]

IMO hearing him talk I think it was the same man. IMO

Thanks for your MOO. It's over the top. That's why I immediately thought of the doll. Seems like the idea came from the same bad egg.

[Dogmatic]

Taunting is a penalty in football. Protesting is taunting in its own way, but not against the law.


Peaceful protest is not against the law.

This protest is by my standards

[johnielee333]

I have to admit, one of my favorite protestors was the lady who was yelling: "Where do you people come from? OHIO?"

like ohio was a bad place. i didnt like that when she said that. ohio is just as good or bad as any other state. theres good & bad in every state.

[Ms. Monk]

I would consider the high 5 classless behavior, as class eludes most in the family. I think it was more in relation to getting in to the building safely. I don't think it was as nefarious as they were celebrating getting away with something. I would imagine they were both nervous making the trip alone together without bodyguards or the safety of Baez.


I wish I could believe that. I wish there was some kind of normal human reaction in Casey. I just don't see it. To me, she seems to lack any normal human reaction. I know there are some who feel the need to defend her saying we don't know for sure if there is any truth to her story, but even if any bit of it is true (that Caylee was kidnapped), I just don't understand her IMO lack of suffering or sense of loss. I would be unable to function at any level if someone kidnapped my child, let alone go to nightclubs, cook dinner for boyfriends, be capable of robbing a friend who was kind enough to loan me her vehicle. Her behavior is just beyond comprehension.

[Lorna]

It's a fake tombstone. It says:

Caylee Anthony
2005-2008
Our Angel
Rest in Peace

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Video - right side - fake tombstone
Whoever did that should be ashamed of themselves. It's not right.

:(

[Broderick]

It is. :(

Oh and PLEASE don't anyone post, "Well the Anthonys asked for it." :(

They did. There is a way to make it all end.

[day2day]

They need to watch that. Is there someone in the back yard or on the side of the house? They look like they're talking to somebody.

Thats what it looks like to me..my camera keeps going down :(!

[kitty1182]

Seems like someone is in the back/side yard ..

[~jomomma~]

do you have sound with the webcam? :confused:

[kakax]

I have a horrible question: I just logged onto cam 1 and it's showing a flooded pond of some kind and the visual was so horrible is this where they think she is??? Does anyone else have this flooded pond on the Cam???

I wish I'd not seen this.....I had nightmares all night, AGAIN. :cuss:

I'm trying so hard to just sleep at night; and am failing for sure. Thanks Anthonys!!



There is a wave board event this weekend. I heard it on the early morning news.