Caylee Anthony 09-11-08 A.M thread

[day2day]

Good for the HOA, that's just what i'd do...limit the houras and location...They seem to realize there is a right and productive way to get rid of pests and a wrong way, thus we don't see (most) neighbors breaking signs, getting out the hose, and yelling their fool heads off.
JMO.

Pfft..you forgot the sprinkler...:cool:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Do you recognize grace and poise? :rolleyes:

Taking from the Judge's words about Casey. I'd say they are strangers. :D

[Kathlb]

Thank you, I will keep on here and post some. I cannot seem to get away from this case. Hadto get up at 3 to use bathroom and then got on here to see what was going on. This case is taking over my life. It is facinating that there is more news, accurate and breaking before it is ever on tv. Thanks for all the info/link/explanations. Alto that web cam is driving me crazy. I am a 60 year old women sitting on my computer looking at someone else house and waiting on a garage door to open, or someone drive up. I am going insane, but it looks like i am in good company.


LOL yep, and we even might pass around refreshments too. ;-)
Welcome!

I'm anxious to see the full charges and what it means in time and bond for the new ones. It's adding up quickly now. Somebody's gonna have to float another promissory note I'll bet. MOO

[KKKKKKatie]

I think it's time for someone to get Casey all liquored up. Regardless of violating her bond.

Can't make Casey talk? BULL.

Give her some alcohol. Not only will she be happy to drink it, she'll most definitely let loose with how she went about murderering her daughter.

Guaranteed.

IMO.

not to mention she would land back in jail for it ;)

[Joan Weiss]

Thank you, I will keep on here and post some. I cannot seem to get away from this case. Hadto get up at 3 to use bathroom and then got on here to see what was going on. This case is taking over my life. It is facinating that there is more news, accurate and breaking before it is ever on tv. Thanks for all the info/link/explanations. Alto that web cam is driving me crazy. I am a 60 year old women sitting on my computer looking at someone else house and waiting on a garage door to open, or someone drive up. I am going insane, but it looks like i am in good company.Welcome to the club. :biggrin:

[MyrDawn]

Does anyone know if Florida has a "Three strikes you're out" law, and how it's worded if they do?

[OneUp]

What.. by providing shelter and food for their precious grandaughter for three years? They had nothing to do with the disappearance of Caylee, they didn't ask for it, they didn't want it. I honestly can't believe the cold heartedness of people who have no idea what pain these people must be feeling.IMO, you have no idea what the pain of a caregiver is like when they lose a child.
Your moral high horse is a strange one...equipped with low spots that allow you to put down posters on this board who have felt genuine grief and loss....
Always, MO.

[desmom]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html

New charges were filed Thursday morning against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is now facing ten charges related to check fraud.

After Caylee's disappearance, Casey Anthony was arrested on child neglect charges. She was arrested again on Aug. 29 for petty theft.

Deputies said they have surveillance video of Casey using forged checks.

She bonded out in that case last week. The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I started a social group entitled "Friends of Caylee Marie Anthony" for us to leave our thoughts to Caylee. Please join. I'll check it out shortly. Thanks :seeya:

[num1barb]

I'm saying that it's a choice whether to actually have compassion in your heart and recognize that the Anthonys are victims of the probably the saddest, most compounded situation that is possible on this earth, and as supposed humans, you can either view them with evil intent, search for that evil intent and by golly you will surely find that evil intent each and every time.

And as for your George example, if you can't understand that man has been emotionally pushed to his limit with the goof-troops who have been camping outside his door, harassing that family in any way that they possibly can, then I seriously have pity on you.

Even OCSO has spoken out about it, and they, too cannot seem to understand what those supposed protesters think they're doing for this situation, they're tired of it!

Once again, Daddy's Girl, If the anthonys would actually LOOK for Caylee somewhere (besides inside their computers), and leave casey in jail, the protestors would go away! MOO of course

[barskin&co.]

[QUOTE=num1barb;12099254]



I watched NG last night. She pretty much asked for ONE specific lead as he mentioned he actually had four. He wouldn't answer and I would be interested to find out if LE actually claimed they can't give information on leads to a LIVE Caylee. That Makes absolutely no sense to any thinking person. So they get all these leads and LE wants it hush hush?

Somebody needs to verify with LE that LE wants the public to know nothing about potential sightings of Caylee.

You know what those "leads" are. People who have seen a toddler who is a brunette haired girl. I'll tell you what they aren't; people who have seen Zenaida and Samantha Gonzalez and their silver Ford Focus who are inexplicably roaming around with Caylee.

[Kathlb]

I started a social group entitled "Friends of Caylee Marie Anthony" for us to leave our thoughts to Caylee. Please join.

That was a nice thing to do Barefooted and I am happy to join.

[luvinlife]

[QUOTE=num1barb;12099254]



I watched NG last night. She pretty much asked for ONE specific lead as he mentioned he actually had four. He wouldn't answer and I would be interested to find out if LE actually claimed they can't give information on leads to a LIVE Caylee. That Makes absolutely no sense to any thinking person. So they get all these leads and LE wants it hush hush?

Somebody needs to verify with LE that LE wants the public to know nothing about potential sightings of Caylee.



I have been wondering about that too, I asked last night. Has LE ever said this to anyone that we know of before. I was told SP said this and LE discounted it right away.

I just wonder IF true why would they say that?

[Joan Weiss]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html)




ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state attorney's office filed 10 new charges against Casey Anthony on Thursday.

The charges range from grand theft and fraud to forging checks. The alleged victim in all of the new charges was Anthony's friend, Amy Huizenga.

Anthony could be arrested for a third time within the next few days on additional charges of fraud involving checks, officials at the Orange County Sheriff's Office said.Here's the info on the child neglect charges. The current charges are going to be affected by the neglect charges, if she's found guilty on those. imo


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0827/Sec03.HTM

[luvinlife]

I think it's time for someone to get Casey all liquored up. Regardless of violating her bond.

Can't make Casey talk? BULL.

Give her some alcohol. Not only will she be happy to drink it, she'll most definitely let loose with how she went about murderering her daughter.

Guaranteed.

IMO.


lol

I think you could be right, it may truely be the only way.

[MyrDawn]

Thank you, I will keep on here and post some. I cannot seem to get away from this case. Hadto get up at 3 to use bathroom and then got on here to see what was going on. This case is taking over my life. It is facinating that there is more news, accurate and breaking before it is ever on tv. Thanks for all the info/link/explanations. Alto that web cam is driving me crazy. I am a 60 year old women sitting on my computer looking at someone else house and waiting on a garage door to open, or someone drive up. I am going insane, but it looks like i am in good company.

I'm a sixty four year old woman doing the same thing. :seeya:

And, you're in excellent company, and I don't mean me! I wonder if anyone has a pool on how many times Casey will be arrested and bailed out...

[Rebel Rouzer]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html

New charges were filed Thursday morning against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is now facing ten charges related to check fraud.

After Caylee's disappearance, Casey Anthony was arrested on child neglect charges. She was arrested again on Aug. 29 for petty theft.

Deputies said they have surveillance video of Casey using forged checks.

She bonded out in that case last week. The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for.


So she won't be rearrested? :confused:

[shelbar53]

huh? I was never in that situation. But I appreciate your kind words.


Ni, I was refering to what you said to someone else...sorry i dont have kind words for you.

[WinnieLeigh7]

GUEST CARD

Reads:
C - Zenaida Gonzale


NOT Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales



And list "Jasmine, Y Michelle"

I guess as possible roomies? Although question asked if it was going to be soley used.


:shrug:

[Acorn]

I believe she wrote "On Death and Dying".....not sure of the exact title. A pioneer in researching the death process (from emotional standpoint) and grieving. Hope I said that right...maybe someone else can elaborate.


That's right. She explains the stages of grieving. My dad gave me the book when my grandpa died. It's very helpful and touching.

[nc1948]

LOL yep, and we even might pass around refreshments too. ;-)
Welcome!

I'm anxious to see the full charges and what it means in time and bond for the new ones. It's adding up quickly now. Somebody's gonna have to float another promissory note I'll bet. MOO

didn't i read on here that they were paid a million for the photos they used on 20/20? or was proven to be an untruth. It is so hard to remember what has been proven wrong. If they weren't , sorry. But if they were, then they can keep bailing her out for a long time.

[bballgrl]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html)




ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state attorney's office filed 10 new charges against Casey Anthony on Thursday.

The charges range from grand theft and fraud to forging checks. The alleged victim in all of the new charges was Anthony's friend, Amy Huizenga.

Anthony could be arrested for a third time within the next few days on additional charges of fraud involving checks, officials at the Orange County Sheriff's Office said.

Awesome, so these are NEW charges. I thought somebody said these were just the official charges from her last arrest. So, she WILL be going back to jail! Yippee.....

Is there ANY way that LE can keep her in this time? Please??? A tiny ray of hope?

[joolz]

Sorry, i did not write that clearly. I meant that through donations we could help in taking care of her final resting place. That is why is usually lurk and don't post, I don't do a good job of writing what i am thinking. will go back to lurking.


Please don't get bullied into not posting. :)

[Mizzchiff]

I think it's time for someone to get Casey all liquored up. Regardless of violating her bond.

Can't make Casey talk? BULL.

Give her some alcohol. Not only will she be happy to drink it, she'll most definitely let loose with how she went about murderering her daughter.

Guaranteed.

IMO.

I hoped that would happen her first night out. What does it tell you that it didn't happen ?

[anon-o-miss]

Thank you, I will keep on here and post some. I cannot seem to get away from this case. Hadto get up at 3 to use bathroom and then got on here to see what was going on. This case is taking over my life. It is facinating that there is more news, accurate and breaking before it is ever on tv. Thanks for all the info/link/explanations. Alto that web cam is driving me crazy. I am a 60 year old women sitting on my computer looking at someone else house and waiting on a garage door to open, or someone drive up. I am going insane, but it looks like i am in good company.
:D:beer::D

[OneUp]

what's cold hearted is leaving Caylee out there in some woods rotting away...while they make sure Casey is sleeping in a nice place, getting food and everything she needs. I have lost a husband and a child. NEVER EVER did I lie or try to make money off of it. Everyone wanted me to sue the drunk driver who Killed my husband coming home from the Country club he got so wasted at that lead to my husbands death. They also wantedme to sue the club. Did I? No, I said why? That's not going to bring him back. It took everything I had to get out of bed and feed my liitle ones much less trying to wheel and deal and make a buck.I remember you sharing your pain with the board before Diane. I hope you have been well as I didn't see you around for a few days!
Just caring for the kids gets time consuming though, thankfully my little one takes some naps and I'm a fast reader!
You do certainly have first hand experience with pain and loss...no need for you to be able to quote from Kuhbler-Ross...you have lived those stages of grief. That makes you an unfortunate expert.
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Once again, Daddy's Girl, If the anthonys would actually LOOK for Caylee somewhere (besides inside their computers), and leave casey in jail, the protestors would go away! MOO of courseAnd isn't it interesting that the ones who push George and Lee's buttons are a little old lady and an unprotected woman and her dog. ;)

imo

[Joan Weiss]

I love this group! I was so happy to find them! I too have been addicted to this case. I had to walk away for a few days. These peeps always get the scoop before NG and Gretta. When Casey was arrested on live TV one of the regs said "Wow, for the first time NG really had breaking news" I spewd my diet coke all over my desk. They will crack you up when you need it the most. Great bunch! Some of them even drove to Florida and seached with Tim. I love these peeps!:beer:I can only ditto that.

:beer:

[desmom]

In Roy House's statement...

He states that he saw Caylee on the 13th of June with her mom


Doesn't Tony say it was ~June 2nd when he last saw her??

Tony did say June 2. He is a full time student at Full Sail. From what I have read about FS, they have a pretty hectic schedule.

Does Clint attend FS or college?

[Armchairdet]

I have mixed feelings about the protesting. If I were Queen of the world, (trying to add a little lightheartedness) I would say people would have to get a permit. It would be free, but that way authorities would know who they were. No felons allowed. No children allowed. Signs would have to be a specific size. There would be a curfew. First come first serve. A limited amount of people at a given time. Permit good for one day. You can apply for another one but may not protest two days in a row. I am not trying to change any laws. But my gosh, I can't see bringing kids there. I think the rest of the neighborhood should be considered. I think large crowds could be more likely to cause problems.

IN MY OPINION ONLY

[Rebel Rouzer]

LandShark. You are right. I bet if someone did get her liqored up she would talk.

Nejame said shaking her might not be the best way to get answers outfo Casey. Wonder what he thinks about getting her liquored up?

[Kathlb]

So she won't be rearrested? :confused:


I don't think that statement on their website is correct. She was bonded out on the charges filed last time. I don't know how they can add these on to that bond without raising it. JMHO

[Carol25]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html

New charges were filed Thursday morning against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is now facing ten charges related to check fraud.

After Caylee's disappearance, Casey Anthony was arrested on child neglect charges. She was arrested again on Aug. 29 for petty theft.

Deputies said they have surveillance video of Casey using forged checks.

She bonded out in that case last week. The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for.
Her family has bonded her out on the new charges?

[MyrDawn]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html

New charges were filed Thursday morning against the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is now facing ten charges related to check fraud.

After Caylee's disappearance, Casey Anthony was arrested on child neglect charges. She was arrested again on Aug. 29 for petty theft.

Deputies said they have surveillance video of Casey using forged checks.

She bonded out in that case last week. The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for.

I dunno why, but I feel like shouting "nanny nanny boo boo". :biggrin:

I STILL wanna see a murder charge filed against Casey in my lifetime.

[num1barb]

And isn't it interesting that the ones who push George and Lee's buttons are a little old lady and an unprotected woman and her dog. ;)

imo

YEP. they're bullies IMO. Only going to pick on people weaker and smaller than them.....sounds kind of familiar, huh? Just like IMO casey did with Caylee.
I didn't see either george or lee outside duking it out with the protestors last Friday when the neighbors got into it with the young male protestors. Wonder if they were inside peeking out the window??

[Joan Weiss]

Does anyone know if Florida has a "Three strikes you're out" law, and how it's worded if they do?There is something in this link about 3 felony convictions and how it increases the penalties; I read it but I don't remember where, exactly.


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=ch0812/Sec014.HTM

[MyrDawn]

Her family has bonded her out on the new charges?


They can't until she's been arrested and had a bail hearing and the bond has been set. As far as I know, she hasn't been arrested...yet.

JMO

[Broderick]

I understand the purpose of the injunction, if it's court ordered, would be so that the LE could stop or limit the protesters, depending on the wording of the injunciton. A person that fails to adhere to an injunction faces civil or criminal penalties. That would hold true if any protesters ignore an injunction, too.

As for the ACLU, it's a bit sticky. The A's neighbors feel their rights are being violated by the protesters. Who's rights are more important...the protesters or the people that live by the A's?

JMO


The ACLU is an interesting bunch. Whether morally right or wrong they seem to care less about the whole. I could see them coming in for rights to protest even for a single individual. Never seen them, to my knowledge, come in and work against the rights to protest for noise and disruption concerns.

By the way, what rights are being violated specifically in regards to the other homeowners in the area? Specifically, as in constitutionally and not basic morays. They seem pretty interested in article 1 don't you think?

[day2day]

And isn't it interesting that the ones who push George and Lee's buttons are a little old lady and an unprotected woman and her dog. ;)

imo

yea..not any big ole boys who could hold their own. Great observation, Joan!! :)

[Carol25]

"The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for. "

What does that mean? The article is poorly written!

[Joan Weiss]

YEP. they're bullies IMO. Only going to pick on people weaker and smaller than them.....sounds kind of familiar, huh? Just like IMO casey did with Caylee.
I didn't see either george or lee outside duking it out with the protestors last Friday when the neighbors got into it with the young male protestors. Wonder if they were inside peeking out the window??My point, exactly. If those two women with the dog had been two young guys, Lee would never have made an appearance. imo

[purplepoints]

GUEST CARD

Reads:
C - Zenaida Gonzale


NOT Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales



And list "Jasmine, Y Michelle"

I guess as possible roomies? Although question asked if it was going to be soley used.


:shrug:

I also thought it interesting that the two names were not really the same. IIRC Jasmine and Michelle where her children.

[GrandmaGA]

You stop too..That poster has as much right to post on here as you do..

My my so testy. I didn't tell her to stop posting, I told her to stop the drama. If anyone thinks internet bloggers will have to bury Caylee IF in fact she is dead that is WAY out of line IMO. My God there is NO proof she is even dead wittout worrying about her family not burying her IF it does turn out she is dead. Drama without knowing the facts, Guessing how the family feels and thinks, that's all this case is and it is getting quite silly IMO. These are real human beings in pain and all some people can think of is their ideas on how to trash them more. Enjoy if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

[Kathlb]

Looks like GA is hooked up to the big sign.

[Broderick]

I'm also wondering how they can do that since the protesters are on public property and the Assoc. doesn't have control over public property as far as I know. MOO


Same wondering here. Unless the injunction is against a member specifically in relation to disturbances resulting from them. That would be an injunction against the Anthonys in my opinion.

[Regina.Lampert]

First of all, the Anthonys don't have to prove anything to the gawking public pertaining to grief, how they spend their time, money, or anything else to do with their personal lives.

And because the public isn't getting their demanding way, (which they won't ever get no matter what they do), people are assuming so much, assuming, with no basis of fact whatsoever that the Anthonys aren't looking.

Why was Nejame brought onboard then? Seems to me he said that was the exact reason, to help with the image the public has of cynthia and george.

[joolz]

I totally agree. I on the other hand do not put posters on Ignore.... I just make it a point to Ignore my own need to respond to them... ;) Alot of times, ther venom and misplaced agression is quite comical!:hat:

The claims to know things about the case that are never backed up are pretty funny too.:seeya:

[MyrDawn]

There is something in this link about 3 felony convictions and how it increases the penalties; I read it but I don't remember where, exactly.


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=ch0812/Sec014.HTM


Thanks, Joan!

[Carol25]

They can't until she's been arrested and had a bail hearing and the bond has been set. As far as I know, she hasn't been arrested...yet.

JMO
Thank you, MyrDawn! Does anyone have a link to the County Sheriff's Office and the page of charges? I'd like to know if there any other holds.

I hope they aren't going to bail her out again before "Community protection" is questioned.

[KKKKKKatie]

George is driving off with the billboard

[Joan Weiss]

AWWW thanks oneup. I seen that jennyanddots has lost a child too and this case is getting to her. When I get a chance I'm going to PM her. A lot of people on here have suffered loss. I guess that's why we just don't get the Anthony's. (hugs)My family had two similar situations, and they didn't sue, either. They were engulfed in grief. :rose:

[dixielover]

And there are many ways to look for Caylee without actually getting out there beating feet on the street.

The problem is, you don't know exactly what they are doing to find Caylee, and just because they haven't announced it to the public, you automatically assume that they're doing nothing.

Not true at all.

Do you have some kind of inside information??
Why don't you tell the Anthonys that if they want people's opinion of them to change and they want the protestors to go home, they should SHARE with the public WHAT it is that they are doing to find Caylee.

They are probably sitting and talking with the kidnapper via email. The kidnappers are letting them know that Caylee is doing great traveling on vacation to Texas, Mexico and then down to PR. Maybe they are even sending pictures via their camera phones. I have often wondered why no one actual sends a picture of Caylee with all these leads. I know my kid has a cell phone with a camera. Just my quess what is going on-sure!!! jmo

[anon-o-miss]

It's their home.
So they should be very comfortable inside.

[BrownEyedF]

Are you DaddysGirl? You post and bait just like her. Could you please stop doing that it's annoying. I have to go to work soon and I'd rather not see you doing this when I have a short time to read. Thanks in advance! : )


Diane: I agree with you. If the sniping posts were gone, it would be a lot easier to find the real information being posted here. I don't know why the administrators allow it to continue. I come here to learn more about this case, not what everyone's beefs are with each other. It is obvious some people here have some history with each other. Honestly I don't even look at the name of the poster when I read their post unless it is something that stands out to me.

[Regina.Lampert]

My point, exactly. If those two women with the dog had been two young guys, Lee would never have made an appearance. imo

Both lee and george are cowards, imo. Let's see them stand up to the little princess.

That woman with the doggie had the perfect thought printed on her sign, I feel the same way.

[Carol25]

Same wondering here. Unless the injunction is against a member specifically in relation to disturbances resulting from them. That would be an injunction against the Anthonys in my opinion.
Do you know when that will be heard?

[barskin&co.]

Why was Nejame brought onboard then? Seems to me he said that was the exact reason, to help with the image the public has of cynthia and george.


Whoops! There you go making sense, again! :D

[snap4]

Ok so I am utterly confused could someone help clear this up for me...

The new charges ...are they old charges or new charges?

And it had stated that they related to the girl Casey stole checks from, the girl that let her borrow her car...if she let her borrow the car why is there grand theft auto charges on there?

Are the grand theft auto charges stemming from her mother wanting to press charges on C for taking G & C's car? And if it is G&C's car they are talking about couldn't C&G just drop the charges if they chose or can prosecuters do that without them wanting to press charges afterall.
Because I beleive and correct me if I am wrong please but Casey has never been formally charged with stealing her parents car right?
Thanks for any help

[KKKKKKatie]

A social group entitled "Friends of Caylee Marie Anthony" has been started jfor us to leave our thoughts to Caylee. Please join. Leave your message for Caylee, if you want, or leave your prayers. This is a Public Group.
(This is a new feature of our new board)

How do I find it? LOL Sorry....I am lost here

[GrandmaGA]

First of all, the Anthonys don't have to prove anything to the gawking public pertaining to grief, how they spend their time, money, or anything else to do with their personal lives.

And because the public isn't getting their demanding way, (which they won't ever get no matter what they do), people are assuming so much, assuming, with no basis of fact whatsoever that the Anthonys aren't looking.

ITA, one thing I have got to admit it is a big lesson in humanity and how civilization has not progressed much.

[Cury-us Coyote]

GUEST CARD

Reads:
C - Zenaida Gonzale


NOT Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales



And list "Jasmine, Y Michelle"

I guess as possible roomies? Although question asked if it was going to be soley used.


:shrug:

IMO, the ZHG coicidence will require a reasonable explanation. How did Casey learn of the Sawgrass visit to weave that detail into her statement?

[Chillin]

Just getting home from treatment..would some sweetheart care to share with me the news of the day?

[Rebel Rouzer]

George is driving off with the billboard


Wonder where he is taking it and what it means?

[kitty1182]

My my so testy. I didn't tell her to stop posting, I told her to stop the drama. If anyone thinks internet bloggers will have to bury Caylee IF in fact she is dead that is WAY out of line IMO. My God there is NO proof she is even dead wittout worrying about her family not burying her IF it does turn out she is dead. Drama without knowing the facts, Guessing how the family feels and thinks, that's all this case is and it is getting quite silly IMO. These are real human beings in pain and all some people can think of is their ideas on how to trash them more. Enjoy if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

I've been here for several years, you are the first poster I've seen who has a hard time accepting anyone's posts but their own..Now you get warm and fuzzy..The poster stated she typed it out wrong..Maybe you should read ALL the posts before trying to make a comment..

[WinnieLeigh7]

Tony did say June 2. He is a full time student at Full Sail. From what I have read about FS, they have a pretty hectic schedule.

Does Clint attend FS or college?


Clint, Roy, "Nate"


:shrug:


One moved out end of June
"Nate" has always been there according to statements on NG


*Confused*


I'm just trying to clear my mind, have "fresh" eyes (which are now crossed lol) and go back through these documents for something...anything, maybe that's been overlooked....

I'm reaching for anything that doesn't "add up" to complete the puzzle.

[bballgrl]

The claims to know things about the case that are never backed up are pretty funny too.:seeya:


Right you are my dear joolz! :seeya: (back at ya)

[Joan Weiss]

I doubt there is anyone here who hasn't suffered a loss in their life. I also doubt that anyone here has been in the same situation that the Anthony's find themselves in.

imoA poster's experience doesn't have to be exactly the same to understand grief and loss. I defy you to find a case exactly the same as this one.

When are you going to provide some information, and join the evidence discussion? imo

[steffaroob4]

Whoops! There you go making sense, again! :D

lol
Where the charges against GA dropped or did they GPs attornet get LE to remove the incident report from their Caylee page?
http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

[Rebel Rouzer]

He needs to turn it back in to kidfinders instead of parking it in a closed garage at the HOA. Someone has a child missing that would actually use it-- non like the Anthony Camp.

I agree. That is sad.

[MyrDawn]

The ACLU is an interesting bunch. Whether morally right or wrong they seem to care less about the whole. I could see them coming in for rights to protest even for a single individual. Never seen them, to my knowledge, come in and work against the rights to protest for noise and disruption concerns.

By the way, what rights are being violated specifically in regards to the other homeowners in the area? Specifically, as in constitutionally and not basic morays. They seem pretty interested in article 1 don't you think?

They sure are an interesting bunch! In a couple cases, I got the feeling they went to the aid of the first side that contacted them, and if the opponent had done it first, the ACLU would have aided them, instead.

As to the neighbors complaints, most of what I've heard is just general stuff, but I did see one of them on TV complaining she can't let her child play outside now, and they feel they're all in danger of being run down.

I wonder if the injunction, if ordered, will apply to the media as well as the protesters. Hmmmmmm

[desmom]

"The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for. "

What does that mean? The article is poorly written!

I think ....

LE arrested Casey on 8/29. Today the DA officially filed charges re the 8/29 arrest. Some of the media outlets are reporting additional charges may be filed soon.

jmo

ETA ~ looks like the billboard is going for a ride...It is hooked up to GA's car.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Carol25]

LMAO watching Lee tackling that poster board was hysterical!!
He even ask others if they would like to help him-- he had no
takers!! Yea-- he proved how weak he is physcially-- too many
video games and sitting on his aZZ not looking for Caylee!
Could you post the cam link again? I thought I saved it, but guess I didn't.... Sorry.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I also thought it interesting that the two names were not really the same. IIRC Jasmine and Michelle where her children.

Yea, almost like Casey got a glimpse of something, but her memory didn't safeguard it.



Betcha she's one of those people that try to remember your credit card number if you lay it down a moment on the counter in a store....

[Chillin]

welcome chillin...Hope your well. I've gotta sign in for work. I'll try and peek in off and on. See y'all later :)

Ty Diane:seeya:

[Pebbles]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story Here's the original story, deeper in the article is the statement that NeJame was hired by Never Loose Hope Foundation. According to other posters they have applied for charitable status in 07, haven't received it yet. The link below is the "contact" link they have on their web site, some posters have taken to time to email their feelings (I'm a daily sender!)
'I plan to remind them daily what a disgrace it is to merge their high missioned (help FIND missing PERSONS)organization to the donkey tails of these two low missioned (protect Casey at all costs) multi-celled organisms! The last time I looked, George & Cindy were NOT missing (well, perhaps missing class, social grace, emotion control, common sense, comprehension skills....etc.)!"


http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/contact.html


Excellent investigating JoyPath. :beer:

I am sending an e-mail also.

I do question this foundations purpose, it does seem that money should go to finding a missing person, not defending someone.

[kitty1182]

Wonder where he is taking it and what it means?

Maybe he was finally asked to move it..

[barskin&co.]

[QUOTE=num1barb;12099254]

They are probably sitting and talking with the kidnapper via email. The kidnappers are letting them know that Caylee is doing great traveling on vacation to Texas, Mexico and then down to PR. Maybe they are even sending pictures via their camera phones. I have often wondered why no one actual sends a picture of Caylee with all these leads. I know my kid has a cell phone with a camera. Just my quess what is going on-sure!!! jmo

A lot of them probably do send pictures...of little brown haired girls. Can you imagine how many little brown haired girls who look about 3 there are? What would be interesting is something about the elusive Zenaida and her sister, Sam. What would be interesting is if one person anywhere has ever known this woman before or after June 16, 2008.
Now, that would be a lead, and so far there has been nothing like this.
Nor, IMO, will there ever be.

[Chillin]

Ty to all who answered me..:(

[purplepoints]

Are we talking about the Zenaida Casey "claims" is the nanny? I thought I read where she said Zenaida had no children of her own?


no, this is the Zenaida that went to Sawgrass Apts to look at an apartment

[tashi]

How do I find it? LOL Sorry....I am lost here


Same here...I've spent the last ten minutes looking for it :confused:

[WingNIt]

Will someone please tell me how to put someone on ignore? Some people just thrive on drama and I'm not going to waste my time reading their nonsense because,in my opinion, they just aren't worth my time.

[Joan Weiss]

Maybe he was asked to return it? :shrug:Probably headed back to Wendy's. ;)

[dixielover]

[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12099508]I doubt there is anyone here who hasn't suffered a loss in their life. I also doubt that anyone here has been in the same situation that the Anthony's find themselves in.

:no:

I have and that what make me so mad-The only difference is when my child was kidnapped, I actually called LE and they had her back in 3 hours. I didn't go partying, hang out at my boyfriends and cook dinner and do his washing, shopping etc. I was absolutely hysterical but able to get people together and piece together what happened. We even got a composite of the kidnapper. I didn't wait around for 30 days. Yes - I know what it is like and I tell you nothing was going to get in the way of getting my baby back. jmo

[OneUp]

AWWW thanks oneup. I seen that jennyanddots has lost a child too and this case is getting to her. When I get a chance I'm going to PM her. A lot of people on here have suffered loss. I guess that's why we just don't get the Anthony's. (hugs)Yes, many many IS posters are brought here through the helplessness or the empathy they have felt as a result of personal tragedy.
They ones who come here still raw and searching for solace really worry me...There is no way I could face the things on this board weekes or even short years after losing my child. It has taken me nearly a decade to return to a place of composure where I have some comfort. I can't imagine how I wound have survived my childs death if I did not have a wonderful group of friends and a strong self.
Sadly, some people who suffer w/o any support system have brought it in themselves by choosing to live in isolation, others have had that choice made for them by abusive spouses, physical limitations, etc.
No one should have to suffer alone, I can't imagine Choosing to isolate yourself from offers of support as the Anthony family has done.
JMO.

[WinnieLeigh7]

IMO, the ZHG coicidence will require a reasonable explanation. How did Casey learn of the Sawgrass visit to weave that detail into her statement?



:shrug: Dunno

I agree it's too close to something to just be a qinky dink though!

[day2day]

Why was Nejame brought onboard then? Seems to me he said that was the exact reason, to help with the image the public has of cynthia and george.

Obviously they DO care~ jmo~

[Joan Weiss]

Will someone please tell me how to put someone on ignore? Some people just thrive on drama and I'm not going to waste my time reading their nonsense because,in my opinion, they just aren't worth my time. Click on your nic in your post. Good idea.

[desmom]

Just getting home from treatment..would some sweetheart care to share with me the news of the day?

Official charges filed against Casey Anthony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7409128&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Broderick]

Do you know when that will be heard?

As I read it and it is rather generic in reporting, the injunction is yet to be filed. HOA don't have police powers and they don't have the right to regulate anyone outside of the actual homeowners in an open community or use of government property not owned by the home owners. I assume it is an open community without gates and the road structure is public as is the easements.

I will be interested to see how they think they will govern the protesters by fiat and how the courts act upon it.

Methinks, even a temporary injunction, will open the doors to the ACLU which likes article one of the constitution very much.

[Pebbles]

I think ....

LE arrested Casey on 8/29. Today the DA officially filed charges re the 8/29 arrest. Some of the media outlets are reporting additional charges may be filed soon.

jmo

ETA ~ looks like the billboard is going for a ride...It is hooked up to GA's car.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


I guess parking the sign in front of their house is how the Anthonys will tell everyone that they were searching for Caylee. That's right, they are in the house doing all their investigating on the computer. Nope, I'm wrong, they are running background checks on people that are driving by their house to see if they have any convictions. Nice to know they have their priorities in order.



I thought the HOA stated they couldn't park the sign on the street. I'm confused

[Chillin]

:seeya: Hi:seeya:..Is there any news today that I missed?

[OneUp]

First of all, the Anthonys don't have to prove anything to the gawking public pertaining to grief, how they spend their time, money, or anything else to do with their personal lives.

And because the public isn't getting their demanding way, (which they won't ever get no matter what they do), people are assuming so much, assuming, with no basis of fact whatsoever that the Anthonys aren't looking.If they want my show of support or my money they have to prove it to me. AS they fail to prove they have bothered to look for Caylee, they get neither from me...and I am not alone.
"What a waste"...to pay for PR when just acting Humane would buy them far more public sympathy and understanding.
JMO.

[jammies]

Here's the live webcam for those asking. Although it is either stuck, or GA hasn't driven off with the sign yet.


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[st777jo]

First of all, the Anthonys don't have to prove anything to the gawking public pertaining to grief, how they spend their time, money, or anything else to do with their personal lives.

And because the public isn't getting their demanding way, (which they won't ever get no matter what they do), people are assuming so much, assuming, with no basis of fact whatsoever that the Anthonys aren't looking.

Well I think we can positively say Caylee is not under the bed, in the closets, under the playhouse, or inside the computer. Casey, where is the Angel?

[MyrDawn]

Thank you, MyrDawn! Does anyone have a link to the County Sheriff's Office and the page of charges? I'd like to know if there any other holds.

I hope they aren't going to bail her out again before "Community protection" is questioned.


Here's the Orange County Clerks website. That's where the info on the charges are kept:
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Default.aspx

Click "case search" then "criminal" and enter Casey's last and first names where indicated. Then click "search for cases" and it will give you a list with dates you can click to see the charges, etc. when you click "detail". You can then check each one. Looks like the new charges aren't there yet.

[happy2bme]

My my so testy. I didn't tell her to stop posting, I told her to stop the drama. If anyone thinks internet bloggers will have to bury Caylee IF in fact she is dead that is WAY out of line IMO. My God there is NO proof she is even dead wittout worrying about her family not burying her IF it does turn out she is dead. Drama without knowing the facts, Guessing how the family feels and thinks, that's all this case is and it is getting quite silly IMO. These are real human beings in pain and all some people can think of is their ideas on how to trash them more. Enjoy if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.


I will say it again.....Go back and read all post before posting your "drama". The poster clearly said she worded her post wrong. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what she meant. IMO

[Carol25]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=649_1221120035

Also-- I think fox has the clip.
Thanks so much, Serenity!

[Chillin]

I am not an investigator on this case. Neither are you. No information is being furnished by anyone here, its all speculation, and nothing more.

So true..thats why I dont get it when a person has to attack anothers posts..its all speculation..with a few known facts thrown in..all served up as an opinion.

[newbiee]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Mizzchiff]

LandShark. You are right. I bet if someone did get her liqored up she would talk.

Nejame said shaking her might not be the best way to get answers outfo Casey. Wonder what he thinks about getting her liquored up?

What was his stance on waterboarding?

[dmh]

I'm not going to say who is right or wrong about how someone should feel.
When my husband had is heart attack, we were told he has two years to live. When he died I was in shock and denial even though I knew in advance what was to come. I was in denial for a while and then I had to say to myself it must be true. With all the evidence that cindy and george are seeing..I would think they have to say to themselves It just may be true. I would search both ways (dead or alive) to find the truth. Even if they don't want to beleive that casey can do this I would help in what ever way I can, in case I want to beleive a kidnaper took her and holding her or killed her. As a mother I want to know if my child is dead or alive. either way dead or alive I would not be able to sleep because I can not think of her in any of those situations.
But thats just how I feel. I hope I did not offend anyone.:chicken:

[day2day]

LMAO watching Lee tackling that poster board was hysterical!!
He even ask others if they would like to help him-- he had no
takers!! Yea-- he proved how weak he is physcially-- too many
video games and sitting on his aZZ not looking for Caylee!

I also thoght it was SO funny. Yea ...he isn't the strongest boy on the block. jmo!!

hammer

[Chillin]

Nothing earth shattering, that's for sure .. :(
Good..now i dont have to read back. TY

[barskin&co.]

How do I find it? LOL Sorry....I am lost here

To join "social groups," click on your name, and on your personal pages. on the right, you will see your "mini-statistics," friends, and group memberships. Click on join social groups.

[Carol25]

Here's the Orange County Clerks website. That's where the info on the charges are kept:
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Default.aspx

Click "case search" then "criminal" and enter Casey's last and first names where indicated. Then click "search for cases" and it will give you a list with dates you can click to see the charges, etc. when you click "detail". You can then check each one. Looks like the new charges aren't there yet.

Thank you MyrDawn! Hate to be so much trouble this morning.

[MyrDawn]

"The new charges are for the arrest Anthony is already out on bond for. "

What does that mean? The article is poorly written!

Already bonded out? Could the media have missed her being arrested and all that? I wonder...

[Rebel Rouzer]

Same here...I've spent the last ten minutes looking for it :confused:

For you and Katie. I think you go to that persons profile and click on news groups or social groups they belong to.

[Joan Weiss]

They sure are an interesting bunch! In a couple cases, I got the feeling they went to the aid of the first side that contacted them, and if the opponent had done it first, the ACLU would have aided them, instead.

As to the neighbors complaints, most of what I've heard is just general stuff, but I did see one of them on TV complaining she can't let her child play outside now, and they feel they're all in danger of being run down.

I wonder if the injunction, if ordered, will apply to the media as well as the protesters. HmmmmmmACLU, FLA:

http://www.aclufl.org/

[kOOkie1]

Why was Nejame brought onboard then? Seems to me he said that was the exact reason, to help with the image the public has of cynthia and george.

..IMO THEY (the Anthony's) created that image. All they had to do in the beginning of the case is get in front of media with a picture of Caylee and have the same comment every time.."This is my granddaughter she is missing..help us find her".. Every time..nothing more. I wouldnt care, if this was my granddaughter, what ANYONE thought of me..I would use whatever resources available to me ..even if it meant being harrassed.."gawked" at etc. Nothing would be more important. NOTHING.They cant look for a missing 3 yr old without the PUBLIC. Casey created this..they have continued it..now they want everyone to like them and feel compassion for them. I would say most people do not ever want to be in their shoes..most people sympathize. I agree with Regina they now need damage control...enter Nejame.(jmo)

[Chillin]

Looks like she hasn't be arrested again yet though.
I hope you're feeling ok. ;)

I've been better and Ive been worse..so its all good. TY for the link. Wont do any good to arrest her..she will just bail out again..but I do like seeing more charges tacked on.

[purplepoints]

Yea, almost like Casey got a glimpse of something, but her memory didn't safeguard it.



Betcha she's one of those people that try to remember your credit card number if you lay it down a moment on the counter in a store....

Yep, that makes sense. One thing that I am sure has bugged others besides just me is how did Casey come up with the ZFG name when someone with that name (actually just similar) actually did look at an apartment there. Can it be just a coincidence?

For arguments sake, let's believe Cindy and that would mean Casey actually made up the ZFG name almost 2 years ago. Where did it come from?

IIRC in the 400 docs, didn't it originally say that this ZG looked at the apartment in april, then when investigated, the card about her visit said June?

[Mizzchiff]

First of all, the Anthonys don't have to prove anything to the gawking public pertaining to grief, how they spend their time, money, or anything else to do with their personal lives.

And because the public isn't getting their demanding way, (which they won't ever get no matter what they do), people are assuming so much, assuming, with no basis of fact whatsoever that the Anthonys aren't looking.

Link please that the Anthonys have looked anywhere. (I'm not holding my breath b/c I've noticed you don't answer difficult questions with links or facts)

[frances1]

Here's the live webcam for those asking. Although it is either stuck, or GA hasn't driven off with the sign yet.


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


I see George still has the easements taped off as if he owns them.

[WingNIt]

Click on your nic in your post. Good idea.


Thanks Joan

[Chillin]

Case in point. I don't have time for your little message board games. I came here to find out about Caylee, not you.

Did I not just read a post by YOU stating how you came here to read and not watch arguing yet you seem to fit right in.

We really need to stay on topic so CW doesnt have to close us down.

[MyrDawn]

Thank you MyrDawn! Hate to be so much trouble this morning.

No trouble at all! This case is very interesting (obsessed) to me and I have all kinds of links. I just need better organization for them. :)

[Heyes]

Thank you, I will keep on here and post some. I cannot seem to get away from this case. Hadto get up at 3 to use bathroom and then got on here to see what was going on. This case is taking over my life. It is facinating that there is more news, accurate and breaking before it is ever on tv. Thanks for all the info/link/explanations. Alto that web cam is driving me crazy. I am a 60 year old women sitting on my computer looking at someone else house and waiting on a garage door to open, or someone drive up. I am going insane, but it looks like i am in good company.

Your welcome. I know what you mean about the web cam. We do tend to get addicted to it. Never know, maybe we'll see those lovely detectives roar up onto that front yard one more time and haul caseys butt out in cuffs again. Once there is an arrest for murder we'll all go back to our normal lives. It's the waiting that keeps us here. It's just a matter of time.
On another note I would think protesting the attorneys office and costing him a little business would make as much sense as protesting outside the anthoneys. The fact that george and cindy and lee cannot stop antagonizing the protesters just adds to the draw. There is something wierd about that. I mean would you be out there gunning for a fight . The day they went out to adjust the no tresspassing signs and redo the tape was nothing more than an excuse to go nose to nose with the protesters...imo.

[Rebel Rouzer]

What was his stance on waterboarding?

lol I don't know. :D

[Kathlb]

My family had two similar situations, and they didn't sue, either. They were engulfed in grief. :rose:

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO

[FoxySly]

Has anyone considered how GA may react against Casey when Caylee's body is found? When his "reasonable doubt" evaporates? I think if Casey is in that house when GA gets the definitive word that Caylee is dead it's not gonna be pretty for Casey. My guess is that somebody in the Anthony family camp thinks the same thing, hence the call to LE about the gun. GA needs an attorney "on call" for what he and CA know is the inevitable.


george has already proved himself to be about the dimmest bulb on a long string of lights... being former LE yet not be able to figure out his 22 year old daughter living under his roof had a fake job, fake life.

george also has shown major anger management problems.
I'd like to see his LE record as I am willing to bet there are complaints on him & maybe the reason why he only worked for LE 10 years.

He sure wasn't old enough for retirement when he was gone from that job plus he has a hard time even keeping a security guard job.

HA! casey & george maybe both pretending they had a job while really watching cooking shows!

Sly

[jakee]

Is it true that George picked up $1500 worth of supplies at Staples that were donated to the TES search team, and TES had to pay out of their pocket for supplies??


I know I read that somewhere too, but cannot remember where. :confused:

[Chillin]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO
God Bless You :rose:

[purplepoints]

I'm thinking the new charges are related to the other charges and just hadn't been made at that time and are just now being processed.

I think they are probably either more checks that hadn't been put through Amy's bank at the time she reported the incident
OR
TARGET, AT&T or WinnDixie or some such business now pressing charges
OR Both

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=DianeA;12099535]

I have and that what make me so mad-The only difference is when my child was kidnapped, I actually called LE and they had her back in 3 hours. I didn't go partying, hang out at my boyfriends and cook dinner and do his washing, shopping etc. I was absolutely hysterical but able to get people together and piece together what happened. We even got a composite of the kidnapper. I didn't wait around for 30 days. Yes - I know what it is like and I tell you nothing was going to get in the way of getting my baby back. jmoI have, too. Mine was missing 6 hours; I was paralyzed by the phone. I was afraid to use the phone because I might get a call about my baby from LE, and miss it if they got a busy signal. :rose:

[luvinlife]

Yes,she came up with the stages of grieving.....denial being one of them.
IE: if you are told you have terminal cancer your brain just can't completely wrap it's mind around that and you start looking for cures,etc.
When my son died I KNEW it was true,but I was thinking.....no,no ,dr.go back and work on him some more.More CPR,more electric shocks.There were times I had daydreams that it was a mistake and he would come home somehow.There was some bargaining with God.
But I always knew he was really dead.I didn't tell people he wasn't,that he dr,s were wrong. I really don't think LE would make the GP's suffer if there was a chance that was not decomposition from Caylee in the car.
At this point I think most people would start accepting that Caylee's gone.I personally would go to LE and say "are you sure?"
I asked the ER dr that while staring at his black shoes.
I could understand one person being in such deep denial,but not all three.George is ex-LE.He knows.
People keep saying the GP's don't want to lose their daughter,too.OMG she would be toast if she was my daughter.



so sorry for your loss:rose:


I think that this is part of the problem LE has told them and the public that she could be alive. So they are clinging to that hope. I also believe Casey and her lawyer are finding enough experts to poo poo the tests that they are wanting to believe it, this doesn't necessarily mean that they haven't thought about it or think it's remotely possible, but at that moment they refuse to go there. JMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Already bonded out? Could the media have missed her being arrested and all that? I wonder...


That is why I was confused. It doesn't sound like she will be rearrested.

[luvinlife]

Ty to all who answered me..:(



Sorry Chillin I missed it


Could you repeat please:)

[Kathlb]

lol
Where the charges against GA dropped or did they GPs attornet get LE to remove the incident report from their Caylee page?
http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

The last I heard and read, those charges went on a long list that has to be processed and it may take some time before they reach the top of the list. MOO

[purplepoints]

As anyone heard anything else about the search at UCF (I think that is where it was). I know nothing has been found or told to be found, or we would have heard that, but does anyone know if they are still looking there or if they have stopped?

[anon-o-miss]

My my so testy. I didn't tell her to stop posting, I told her to stop the drama. If anyone thinks internet bloggers will have to bury Caylee IF in fact she is dead that is WAY out of line IMO. My God there is NO proof she is even dead wittout worrying about her family not burying her IF it does turn out she is dead. Drama without knowing the facts, Guessing how the family feels and thinks, that's all this case is and it is getting quite silly IMO. These are real human beings in pain and all some people can think of is their ideas on how to trash them more. Enjoy if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.
I think it could be a valid concern. If Caylee is dead her remains would most likely not be in a good condition, Cindy has already expressed that she didn't think DNA was that reliable (I believe on Nancy grace when she called in, and I also believe she said it on her front lawn when the issue first came up, no links so this is JMO.) If DNA is what she has to go on she may be in such denial that she doesn't believe the results. Not saying this will happen, but seeing the depths of denial these folks are willing to go, I wouldn't rule it out.
So for someone to think it is a possiblility, is less of a stretch, than believing Zanny, Sam, and 3 children kidnapped Caylee took off to NY, Georgia, NC, near the Anthony's home, Texas, Mexico and Puerto Rico, all the while leaving no traces of their very existence.

[Joan Weiss]

george has already proved himself to be about the dimmest bulb on a long string of lights... being former LE yet not be able to figure out his 22 year old daughter living under his roof had a fake job, fake life.

george also has shown major anger management problems.
I'd like to see his LE record as I am willing to bet there are complaints on him & maybe the reason why he only worked for LE 10 years.

He sure wasn't old enough for retirement when he was gone from that job plus he has a hard time even keeping a security guard job.

HA! casey & george maybe both pretending they had a job while really watching cooking shows!

SlySly, let's be fair here. George lost his recent security job because of this situation. He didn't go to work. They needed somebody on the job, imo.

As for his LE job, we can speculate, but that's it. Those records will never be open for view. imo

[Snuggles]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO

I am so sorry, and so glad that you are strong and were able to overcome.:rose:

[dmh]

I posted a reply on pg 19 #741 It may have been skipped. But I wonder if I made any sense?

[frances1]

That is why I was confused. It doesn't sound like she will be rearrested.


Not on the charges just posted, but there are more.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Yep, that makes sense. One thing that I am sure has bugged others besides just me is how did Casey come up with the ZFG name when someone with that name (actually just similar) actually did look at an apartment there. Can it be just a coincidence?

For arguments sake, let's believe Cindy and that would mean Casey actually made up the ZFG name almost 2 years ago. Where did it come from?

IIRC in the 400 docs, didn't it originally say that this ZG looked at the apartment in april, then when investigated, the card about her visit said June?


That's right, June...17th?!?!


Even though it's not the exact name...still too close to be pure coincidence IMO


and I don't believe Cindy on this matter...She originally stated she didn't know this person and later corrected that she had 'heard of her'

Both she and George seem unaware of this 'person' in the statements they gave also...on 7-16.

[KKKKKKatie]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO

Bless you :rose:

[happy2bme]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html)







If convicted, Anthony's charges -- one grand theft count, 3 fraud counts and 6 forgery counts -- could mean 50 years in prison.

Meanwhile, Anthony made another visit to the office of her attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

Her brother, Lee, dropped her off.

Baez is aware of the 10 new charges against his client. Although the State Attorney's Office said it is unlikely that she will get rearrested, Baez said he prefers Anthony be able to turn herself in.

[day2day]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO


I am so sorry for your loss!

:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

I couldn't believe it when I read that he had pilfered the supplies that were donated to help with the search for his grand daughter.Where did you read that? I recall George went to the search headquarters for several hours early on. imo

[Kathlb]

Will someone please tell me how to put someone on ignore? Some people just thrive on drama and I'm not going to waste my time reading their nonsense because,in my opinion, they just aren't worth my time.

Go to the top and click on "user CP" then on the left you will see "edit ignore list" and click on that and add a username and then click "save". It's a wonderful thing. ;-)

[Chillin]

Yes,she came up with the stages of grieving.....denial being one of them.
IE: if you are told you have terminal cancer your brain just can't completely wrap it's mind around that and you start looking for cures,etc.
When my son died I KNEW it was true,but I was thinking.....no,no ,dr.go back and work on him some more.More CPR,more electric shocks.There were times I had daydreams that it was a mistake and he would come home somehow.There was some bargaining with God.
But I always knew he was really dead.I didn't tell people he wasn't,that he dr,s were wrong. I really don't think LE would make the GP's suffer if there was a chance that was not decomposition from Caylee in the car.
At this point I think most people would start accepting that Caylee's gone.I personally would go to LE and say "are you sure?"
I asked the ER dr that while staring at his black shoes.
I could understand one person being in such deep denial,but not all three.George is ex-LE.He knows.
People keep saying the GP's don't want to lose their daughter,too.OMG she would be toast if she was my daughter.


I agree.I know when I was told my health issue and given the choice of treatment vs dying I kept waiting for the doctor to pop back in and say it was all a mistake you are fine and can go home. Denial helps so it doesnt soak in quite so fast.

If I lost my child my life would be over. I dont even know if I could live thru the time it would take to search for him. Then again I know people are stronger than they think they are when confronted with a crisis.

I know I wouldnt be high fiving, partying and carrying on like nothing happen.

[OneUp]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO:rose:First, my deepest empathy to you on the loss of your son from your life. I wish no one ever knew the loss of their child. It's not supposed to work that way is it?
Your post states the point excellently. Those who know pain also know false and aberrant behavior when they see it, those who are buffaloed by the farce either don't know deep pain and loss first hand ( but are kind people who WANT to believe no one could fail to do their all to find sweet Caylee) or are just out to be facetious.
JMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHO

Your post is very well stated and conveys what a lot of others feel. Sorry for your loss :rose:

[Mizzchiff]

I doubt there is anyone here who hasn't suffered a loss in their life. I also doubt that anyone here has been in the same situation that the Anthony's find themselves in.

imo

Mark Hacking's family were - their son murdered their grandchild. There have been many many people in the situation of losing their grandchild to foul behavior of their child - most don't act like the Anthonys.

[Joan Weiss]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17445767/detail.html)







If convicted, Anthony's charges -- one grand theft count, 3 fraud counts and 6 forgery counts -- could mean 50 years in prison.

Meanwhile, Anthony made another visit to the office of her attorney, Jose Baez, on Thursday.

Her brother, Lee, dropped her off.

Baez is aware of the 10 new charges against his client. Although the State Attorney's Office said it is unlikely that she will get rearrested, Baez said he prefers Anthony be able to turn herself in.Thank you. So they could put her away for a long, long time. That makes me worry that they may think they'll never get her on Caylee's disappearance. Hopefully it doesn't mean that. imo

[MyrDawn]

Sly, let's be fair here. George lost his recent security job because of this situation. He didn't go to work. They needed somebody on the job, imo.

As for his LE job, we can speculate, but that's it. Those records will never be open for view. imo

That's all true, plus, as for his former LE job he retired from...many jobs you allow you to retire with benefits after a certain number of years, and it's not dependant upon your age.

[happy2bme]

Download for 10 "new" charges


http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf (http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf)

[luvinlife]

..IMO THEY (the Anthony's) created that image. All they had to do in the beginning of the case is get in front of media with a picture of Caylee and have the same comment every time.."This is my granddaughter she is missing..help us find her".. Every time..nothing more. I wouldnt care, if this was my granddaughter, what ANYONE thought of me..I would use whatever resources available to me ..even if it meant being harrassed.."gawked" at etc. Nothing would be more important. NOTHING.They cant look for a missing 3 yr old without the PUBLIC. Casey created this..they have continued it..now they want everyone to like them and feel compassion for them. I would say most people do not ever want to be in their shoes..most people sympathize. I agree with Regina they now need damage control...enter Nejame.(jmo)


I agree with you, but I do think in the beginning Cindy did try to just talk about Caylee and said so at least on NG & LK(I don't get fox news). It always turned to questions about Casey and what she did or was lying about. All the TH's saying Caylee was dead and that Casey did it.
I can imagine that would be hard to deal with, especially when you don't want to believe it yourself. Then she just started attacking back. I think they should have had PR from the beginning, I think she thought she could handle it herself, how wrong she was.

[WillowInFlight]

Just logging on, has the princess been rearrested yet?

[babblefishie]

One thing I don't understand -- I believe Casey is guilty as sin and her parents have handled the case terribly, but does anyone think the protesting is going to have a positive result and be an effective part in bringing Caylee home?

The problem as I see it with the protests is, the family seems to have operated for a long time in an us vs them mindset -- likely even before the disappearance of Caylee.

If this is the case than protesting (WHICH yes is a right) is ineffective and only seems to be shoring the family up to rally and defend one another in all of this. The more they are villified, the less likely ANY of them are to help scratch at the truth.

So I would tell the protestors that they have the right to be there, but they may be hurting Caylee's chances of being found in an odd way.

I totally disagree with the Anthony's defending Casey at all costs, but think getting out and searching is a better use of energy. :shrug:

[Cury-us Coyote]

9/11/08 New Charges PDF
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

ETA sorry for duplication

[Chillin]

Just logging on, has the princess been rearrested yet?

Nope..still strutting in her cheap sunglasses and matching tiara.

[steffaroob4]

State Files Formal Fraud, Theft Charges Against Casey Anthony (http://www.wftv.com/news/17447733/detail.html)

doc
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

[anon-o-miss]

LMAO watching Lee tackling that poster board was hysterical!!
He even ask others if they would like to help him-- he had no
takers!! Yea-- he proved how weak he is physcially-- too many
video games and sitting on his aZZ not looking for Caylee!
LOL No one accepted the invitation to help and if I recall correctly everyone there started lecturing him.

[Joan Weiss]

I have lost a child too. I just normally don't mention it. My child was shot and the details are still not known. That was in 1988. No apparent reason was found and he was alone in a normal situation when found. Autopsy showed no unusual things of any kind. It's been a horrible sort of limbo since then, but not once have I criticized, blamed or garnered publicity. I finally had to accept and move on for the rest of the family and my own sanity. That is why it's wrong I feel to criticize others' feelings without knowing their background and experiences. A lot of us know exactly the feelings having been there and so we come from an unwelcome position of authority on the subject of how it feels and what normal reactions are as well as cold, unfeeling reactions. We had family friends that were in the same position of losing a child to a drunk driver a few years before we faced loss. No one should assume that others don't come from a position of knowledge. In that case you are setting yourself up as judge and jury without any background or facts. When you do that you are in the wrong!

In this case, I have absolutely no understanding of why the Anthony's are acting the way they are. Grief and loss are awful things, but they don't automatically result in lies, truth twisting, avoiding ANY avenue of searching out the truth and blaming others indiscriminately. That is why I question motives here and 'seemingly' actions to cover up the truth and evidence. JMHOI am so sorry. :rose:

I am so glad you were able to move on. My mom never did.

[babblefishie]

9/11/08 New Charges PDF
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

ETA sorry for duplication

Thanks for that! My hope is that they can put this girl away for a LONG time just based on these economic crimes. It's a shallow victory, but a victory none-the-less if they can't pursue a homicide case. They may surprise us yet though :)

[Chillin]

I think for most caring humans, the simple fact that their Granddaughter is missing should be proof enough.

When they start showing they care about Caylee..maybe they will get support..being grandparents of a missing child doesnt always mean they are victims. We'll see when the facts are all in just how much they cared for Caylee and helped to bring her home. IMO

[dixielover]

[QUOTE=dixielover;12099584]I have, too. Mine was missing 6 hours; I was paralyzed by the phone. I was afraid to use the phone because I might get a call about my baby from LE, and miss it if they got a busy signal. :rose:

I am so happy that it worked out well for you too. I still almost get paralyzed by just thinking about it. I guess I should not be reading these boards because I start hollering at some of the statement. I told myself I just have to let it go and just keep praying they find Caylee.

[snap4]

Download for 10 "new" charges


http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf (http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf)


I noticed that count one is missing from the document regarding the grand theft auto... so again, I am still confused as I had asked earlier but no one has helped me clear this up... anyone know?

(earlier asked) Ok so I am utterly confused could someone help clear this up for me...

The new charges ...are they old charges or new charges?

And it had stated that they related to the girl Casey stole checks from, the girl that let her borrow her car...if she let her borrow the car why is there grand theft auto charges on there?

Are the grand theft auto charges stemming from her mother wanting to press charges on C for taking G & C's car? And if it is G&C's car they are talking about couldn't C&G just drop the charges if they chose or can prosecuters do that without them wanting to press charges afterall.
Because I beleive and correct me if I am wrong please but Casey has never been formally charged with stealing her parents car right?
Thanks for any help

[WillowInFlight]

When they start showing they care about Caylee..maybe they will get support..being grandparents of a missing child doesnt always mean they are victims. We'll see when the facts are all in just how much they cared for Caylee and helped to bring her home. IMO
ITA, the only thing I find they care about is how they are looking in the media. IMO

[Kathlb]

I agree.I know when I was told my health issue and given the choice of treatment vs dying I kept waiting for the doctor to pop back in and say it was all a mistake you are fine and can go home. Denial helps so it doesnt soak in quite so fast.

If I lost my child my life would be over. I dont even know if I could live thru the time it would take to search for him. Then again I know people are stronger than they think they are when confronted with a crisis.

I know I wouldnt be high fiving, partying and carrying on like nothing happen.


I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. I think you have to dig down really deep in these instances and find that strength somewhere. And there so many turn-arounds and success stories with all of the new medical treatments out there that we can realistically expect the best too. My thoughts and prayers are with you. :rose:

[Chillin]

ITA, the only thing I find they care about is how they are looking in the media. IMO

And precious Casey.

[purplepoints]

I noticed that count one is missing from the document regarding the grand theft auto... so again, I am still confused as I had asked earlier but no one has helped me clear this up... anyone know?

(earlier asked) Ok so I am utterly confused could someone help clear this up for me...

The new charges ...are they old charges or new charges?

And it had stated that they related to the girl Casey stole checks from, the girl that let her borrow her car...if she let her borrow the car why is there grand theft auto charges on there?

Are the grand theft auto charges stemming from her mother wanting to press charges on C for taking G & C's car? And if it is G&C's car they are talking about couldn't C&G just drop the charges if they chose or can prosecuters do that without them wanting to press charges afterall.
Because I beleive and correct me if I am wrong please but Casey has never been formally charged with stealing her parents car right?
Thanks for any help

It's not grand theft auto, it is just grand theft.

[Chillin]

I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. I think you have to dig down really deep in these instances and find that strength somewhere. And there so many turn-arounds and success stories with all of the new medical treatments out there that we can realistically expect the best too. My thoughts and prayers are with you. :rose:

Ty. I do well...no complaints.

[Mizzchiff]

Joypath
Have you gotten a response from that Organization? I posted earlier that I contacted them and am waiting for a response.

[Joan Weiss]

PDF of new charges here:

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0911/17446834.pdf

Also:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17447733/detail.htmlThank you for the excellent links.

Lest we forget, the child neglect charges are already on the docket. Anyone know if the trial in November will encompass these new charges? I'm assuming not.

Baez must be tearing his hair out. imo

[Chillin]

It's not grand theft auto, it is just grand theft.

Maybe thats the grandparents money.

[Kathlb]

I frankly don't see denial.

I see denial of the truth and evidence, I just question the reasons and motives behind the denial.

[Broderick]

I see denial of the truth and evidence, I just question the reasons and motives behind the denial.

Maybe in that context but I might add sinister to the description. I don't see denial in the form of a grieving process.

[WingNIt]

Go to the top and click on "user CP" then on the left you will see "edit ignore list" and click on that and add a username and then click "save". It's a wonderful thing. ;-)

TY...and yes, it IS a wonderful thing.

[FrankieBones1]

I must have missed it..:confused:
There is a small blue box with an arrow in it next to my name in my post. Click on that and it'll eventually take you back to the original post.

[babblefishie]

Does anyone know how much time Casey might do if she was only convicted on the economic charges, but sentenced harshly? :shrug:

[toadii]

Sly, let's be fair here. George lost his recent security job because of this situation. He didn't go to work. They needed somebody on the job, imo.

As for his LE job, we can speculate, but that's it. Those records will never be open for view. imo

lets be fair here.
george lost a job that he just started.
where/when was he working prior?
i have not read about his prior employment in Fl, only that 'they' were on vacation the first part of june.
we know cindy cashed in her 401k, but no mention of george having one or choosing to do so.
on one of the first Today shows, cindy describes george has being "former LE" and now in the security business.
i know you have followed this case closely, maybe you would know.
TY

[WillowInFlight]

And precious Casey.

I heard on NG last night that George and Cindy are NOT allowed to talk to her about Caylee, so Casey really has it made, no pressure from the family, no pressure from LE. Now if she can just find a way to get rid of those dreaded protesters. :rolleyes:

[snap4]

It's not grand theft auto, it is just grand theft.

THANKS WOW THAT HAD MY HEAD SPINNING!!!LOL So the newspaper article had it wrong ..I swear that first artile stated grand theft AUTO...ok so I thought I was losing it LMAO

BUt since I am thinking aobut it does anone know if C&G ever did press charges on their wonderful daughter for stealing their car or did they just drop that?

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=Joan Weiss;12099664]

I am so happy that it worked out well for you too. I still almost get paralyzed by just thinking about it. I guess I should not be reading these boards because I start hollering at some of the statement. I told myself I just have to let it go and just keep praying they find Caylee.Oh, dear, it still comes back for me, too. I don't think it ever goes away, the memory of that feeling of terror, we just learn to live with it. At least we got our children back. :rose:

[Chillin]

Heres my problem with the Anthonys. I can understand them thinking shes alive..of course thats what they want. Holding out hope isnt abad thing...but what I dont get is why didnt they encourage searchers to help Tim...it didnt have to change how they felt or what the outcome will be. I just dont get why they had to go and treat him and those helping like crap.

[WillowInFlight]

[QUOTE=dixielover;12099749]Oh, dear, it still comes back for me, too. I don't think it ever goes away, the memory of that feeling of terror, we just learn to live with it. At least we got our children back. :rose:

:rose::rose:

[Chillin]

I heard on NG last night that George and Cindy are NOT allowed to talk to her about Caylee, so Casey really has it made, no pressure from the family, no pressure from LE. Now if she can just find a way to get rid of those dreaded protesters. :rolleyes:And those darn searchers that just might uncover her dirty little secret.:(

[Syd'sMiMi]

I am not an investigator on this case. Neither are you. No information is being furnished by anyone here, its all speculation, and nothing more.


Ya know WudScoobyDo, I've tried to make sense out of what you post, by mainly being a lurker and not posting much; however, you seem to be so combative against most of the posters on here. What's up with that? Just how close are you to the Anthony's that you can say they are not doing what some posters think they are? If you don't agree, then keep it to yourself. Making others angry at you seems to be a sport with you. :shrug:IMP, MOO

Just asking? Now I guess you'll throw a bushel load at me, but I don't post much anyway, so go ahead.:(

[Joan Weiss]

lets be fair here.
george lost a job that he just started.
where/when was he working prior?
i have not read about his prior employment in Fl, only that 'they' were on vacation the first part of june.
we know cindy cashed in her 401k, but no mention of george having one or choosing to do so.
on one of the first Today shows, cindy describes george has being "former LE" and now in the security business.
i know you have followed this case closely, maybe you would know.
TYI have no idea if he worked previous to this last job. I really have no interest in finding out. He got a retirement pension from LE, so maybe didn't have to work.

He's not arrested, Casey is. imo

[Velouria]

I don't know where I read it.

I had the impression that the donated supplies were at Staples to be picked up, and that George had picked them up, so TES had to pay for the supplies out of their own pocket. :shrug:


C_E, I read that too, and have been trying to locate the source this morning. I believe I saw it on Websleuths and one other site. Will post when I locate something...
:read:

[WillowInFlight]

Heres my problem with the Anthonys. I can understand them thinking shes alive..of course thats what they want. Holding out hope isnt abad thing...but what I dont get is why didnt they encourage searchers to help Tim...it didnt have to change how they felt or what the outcome will be. I just dont get why they had to go and treat him and those helping like crap.

Do you really think that they think she is alive or do you think they want us to think that they think she is alive? Damn does that make sense?

[purplepoints]

THANKS WOW THAT HAD MY HEAD SPINNING!!!LOL So the newspaper article had it wrong ..I swear that first artile stated grand theft AUTO...ok so I thought I was losing it LMAO

BUt since I am thinking aobut it does anone know if C&G ever did press charges on their wonderful daughter for stealing their car or did they just drop that?


You are welcome.

As far as I know, as soon as they realized Caylee was "missing" and law enforcement got involved all those things they were saying about the car and money were forgotten about.

BTW, I think Cindy was just calling 911 and saying those things to try to scare Casey into talking, but it didn't work. I doubt Cindy would have followed through with pressing any charges against Casey. JMO

[jammies]

I heard on NG last night that George and Cindy are NOT allowed to talk to her about Caylee, so Casey really has it made, no pressure from the family, no pressure from LE. Now if she can just find a way to get rid of those dreaded protesters. :rolleyes:


Who made those rules? The lawyers? Like that would EVER stop me! Do they think we buy this junk?

[Joan Weiss]

I heard on NG last night that George and Cindy are NOT allowed to talk to her about Caylee, so Casey really has it made, no pressure from the family, no pressure from LE. Now if she can just find a way to get rid of those dreaded protesters. :rolleyes:I can't imagine being in her shoes, having those eyes meet hers every day...
She must be made of steel. imo

[Chillin]

Do you really think that they think she is alive or do you think they want us to think that they think she is alive? Damn does that make sense?
Actually yes it does. I think they know shes dead. They had the car first remember. Cindy knew what she smelled..George says the body that was in the car wasnt his GD.

That shows they both know a dead body was in the trunk and Caylee is missing. I think they might have a flicker of hope but deep down they know. IMO

[dmh]

Heres my problem with the Anthonys. I can understand them thinking shes alive..of course thats what they want. Holding out hope isnt abad thing...but what I dont get is why didnt they encourage searchers to help Tim...it didnt have to change how they felt or what the outcome will be. I just dont get why they had to go and treat him and those helping like crap.

I agree. Dead or alive I would want to find my grandchild no matter what unless they are not in denial and beleive she is dead.

[kaelieanne]

I sent her a message, I am hoping I can talk to her. I promised not to ask her any questions. I just have a bit to say if she will listen, mother to mother.
--------
How do you know this is the REAL CA? There are dozens on facebook. It could be someone wanting to play a trick on you.

[desmom]

http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7410014&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

However, FOX 35 in Orlando was told by the Orange County Sheriff's Office that more charges -- separate from those officially filed Thursday -- could come down later today against Casey.

Those charges would be similar to those she is already charged with.

Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, told FOX 35 off-camera Thursday that he expects more charges will be filed.

He has asked that the sheriff's office allow him to turn Casey in to authorities to avoid any more activity outside her home.

Baez said the sheriff's office told him they will allow him to take Casey to the jail, but he says he is not sure they will hold up to that.

[kitty1182]

There is a small blue box with an arrow in it next to my name in my post. Click on that and it'll eventually take you back to the original post.

Thanks..:seeya:

[FrankieBones1]

The 3 trolls have shown up. Time for me to go or get banned. I'm tired of all the crap they spew. Always looking for a fight. Whatever. Live for another day. See you all later! :seeya:

I've had to take a break from posting, too. I'll have to change my signature line again. I wish people would just quit quoting the bait posts. It's so much easier to ignore....Skip and scroll is best.

Is it true that Casey has been charged with another felony? Have they picked her up yet?

[Chillin]

I agree. Dead or alive I would want to find my grandchild no matter what unless they are not in denial and beleive she is dead.

I think they dont want her found ebcause they know they will lose Casey.

I'd been ..ok lets search and if we dont find her the chances are betetr shes alive. But to not search at all..is sad.

[luvinlife]

Heres my problem with the Anthonys. I can understand them thinking shes alive..of course thats what they want. Holding out hope isnt abad thing...but what I dont get is why didnt they encourage searchers to help Tim...it didnt have to change how they felt or what the outcome will be. I just dont get why they had to go and treat him and those helping like crap.



I don't get it and I was very angry for accusing Tim of coming for publicity. I will say that I think Cindy is someone who attacks people who don't do what she wants. It is not right but to me that is a personality flaw, something that is now exaggerated.

I think she truely felt like he and LP betrayed her, first they said they would look for a live Caylee, which we now LP did, and Tim does look for live missing people. I don't know what they discussed privately, but I don't think Tim mislead her, it is that she never expected him to look for a dead Caylee. I don't know. moo

[purplepoints]

Who made those rules? The lawyers? Like that would EVER stop me! Do they think we buy this junk?


Yeah, I'd be da**ed if that would stop me. I would totally be on her 24/7 wanting some answers, even if I had to go to jail myself.

[dixielover]

[QUOTE=Joan Weiss;12099795]

:rose::rose:

I thank God everyday for the LE and all the volunteers. You are right we are blessed. I just wish someone could do something to make Casey come around. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

I don't know where I read it.

I had the impression that the donated supplies were at Staples to be picked up, and that George had picked them up, so TES had to pay for the supplies out of their own pocket. :shrug:OK, thank you. :)

[Syd'sMiMi]

http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7410014&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

However, FOX 35 in Orlando was told by the Orange County Sheriff's Office that more charges -- separate from those officially filed Thursday -- could come down later today against Casey.

Those charges would be similar to those she is already charged with.

Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, told FOX 35 off-camera Thursday that he expects more charges will be filed.

He has asked that the sheriff's office allow him to turn Casey in to authorities to avoid any more activity outside her home.

Baez said the sheriff's office told him they will allow him to take Casey to the jail, but he says he is not sure they will hold up to that.

Maybe the Anthony's will wisen up and leave her in jail this time and the protestors can camp outside that facility for a while.

[snap4]

Heres my problem with the Anthonys. I can understand them thinking shes alive..of course thats what they want. Holding out hope isnt a bad thing...but what I dont get is why didnt they encourage searchers to help Tim...it didnt have to change how they felt or what the outcome will be. I just dont get why they had to go and treat him and those helping like crap.

Exactly, I mean really, how did they know for certain that the "fake" babysitter didn't kill her and dump her somewhere, if it was me, I would, especially after this much time has passed, want them searching everywhere as the thought that "whoever" had taken her may have done something awful to her and I would want her found no matter, dead or alive. I don't know of any cases where a child was actually abducted and the parents refused to accept searchers looking for remains. You praise them searching but hold out hope that someone finds her alive, you sure as he!! don't stop them in your "attempt" to still beleive! That wouldn't seem normal to me.
jmo

[Chillin]

Ok nap time. If REAL breaking news happens someone scream real loud and wake me. :seeya:

[Syd'sMiMi]

If and when Caylee is found.. George and Cindy have to face it all. Every ugly bit of it. They have to accept that the lies were purposeful in stopping the police from finding her. They have to accept the fact that their confrontation with Casey MAY have lead her to snap. They have to accept that for a whole month .. they didn't try to find Caylee.
They have to accept the cold hard hideous truth.
I totally GET their choice to stay deep in denial until they are left with no other choice.
JMO


Hi Idol. I believe even if she is found and DNA proves it her, the Anthony's will still maintain that it's not her. I just can't see them going that route with everything they've done to protect Casey. JMO

[jammies]

Yeah, I'd be da**ed if that would stop me. I would totally be on her 24/7 wanting some answers, even if I had to go to jail myself.



ANY NORMAL parent would do the same. This family is simpy not "right" which is why it's so difficult for us to understand them.

[Pooh]

I've had to take a break from posting, too. I'll have to change my signature line again. I wish people would just quit quoting the bait posts. It's so much easier to ignore....Skip and scroll is best.

Is it true that Casey has been charged with another felony? Have they picked her up yet?
I have never used ignore until today. But at least I can at least READ here! LOL

Yes, they added 10 additional theft charges - all related to her ex-friend Amy. I was hoping her grandparents account theft would also be in there but I guess it's not.

[tashi]

Actually yes it does. I think they know shes dead. They had the car first remember. Cindy knew what she smelled..George says the body that was in the car wasnt his GD.

That shows they both know a dead body was in the trunk and Caylee is missing. I think they might have a flicker of hope but deep down they know. IMO


I agree...but I don't think they will EVER believe Casey harmed Caylee

[Kathlb]

I've had to take a break from posting, too. I'll have to change my signature line again. I wish people would just quit quoting the bait posts. It's so much easier to ignore....Skip and scroll is best.

Is it true that Casey has been charged with another felony? Have they picked her up yet?

She is at the lawyer's office now Frankie and I don't think they have come for her yet. Baez said they told him they will let him bring her in this time. We'll see. :-)

[day2day]

When they start showing they care about Caylee..maybe they will get support..being grandparents of a missing child doesnt always mean they are victims. We'll see when the facts are all in just how much they cared for Caylee and helped to bring her home. IMO

I agree chillin. jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Who made those rules? The lawyers? Like that would EVER stop me! Do they think we buy this junk?

Yes when she lawyered up she became off limits to everyone except Baez.

[Joan Weiss]

I think they dont want her found ebcause they know they will lose Casey.

I'd been ..ok lets search and if we dont find her the chances are betetr shes alive. But to not search at all..is sad.They're going to lose her anyway, with all the other charges. They'll be visiting her in federal prison, regardless.

These other economic charges have the paperwork proof, she can't win. imo

[SavannahStar]

If and when Caylee is found.. George and Cindy have to face it all. Every ugly bit of it. They have to accept that the lies were purposeful in stopping the police from finding her. They have to accept the fact that their confrontation with Casey MAY have lead her to snap. They have to accept that for a whole month .. they didn't try to find Caylee.
They have to accept the cold hard hideous truth.
I totally GET their choice to stay deep in denial until they are left with no other choice.
JMO


Well said. I totally agree, I "get" their choice too. How can one face the fact their granddaughter is dead and their own daughter caused it? And yes, they will then have to accept ALL that goes with that. It's staggering.

[kakax]

http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7410014&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

However, FOX 35 in Orlando was told by the Orange County Sheriff's Office that more charges -- separate from those officially filed Thursday -- could come down later today against Casey.

Those charges would be similar to those she is already charged with.

Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, told FOX 35 off-camera Thursday that he expects more charges will be filed.

He has asked that the sheriff's office allow him to turn Casey in to authorities to avoid any more activity outside her home.

Baez said the sheriff's office told him they will allow him to take Casey to the jail, but he says he is not sure they will hold up to that.

Ty for the update!!

[Joan Weiss]

I have never used ignore until today. But at least I can at least READ here! LOL

Yes, they added 10 additional theft charges - all related to her ex-friend Amy. I was hoping her grandparents account theft would also be in there but I guess it's not.Not yet, anyway...

[cuddlyrunner]

will she have to be bailed out on these charges after going back to jail or just be able to go home again?

[st777jo]

I agree...but I don't think they will EVER believe Casey harmed Caylee


I do believe that also. But what I can't get past my brain is why they aren't doing anything in their power to want Caylee brought home. No matter what happened to her or who did it to her. jmo

[frances1]

I've had to take a break from posting, too. I'll have to change my signature line again. I wish people would just quit quoting the bait posts. It's so much easier to ignore....Skip and scroll is best.

Is it true that Casey has been charged with another felony? Have they picked her up yet?


I've already put two on ignore. Time to do the same with the third.

[Acorn]

I think they dont want her found ebcause they know they will lose Casey.

I'd been ..ok lets search and if we dont find her the chances are betetr shes alive. But to not search at all..is sad.

I agree. Plus, looking for a body will just add to the shaken dirt pile from the closet rugs.

It seems they can't detach themselves from each other...it's as if their is no definition of where each of them begins and ends in their thoughts, emotions and actions. imo

[WillowInFlight]

They're going to lose her anyway, with all the other charges. They'll be visiting her in federal prison, regardless.

These other economic charges have the paperwork proof, she can't win. imo
I guess we should be thankful for that.

[Chevalier]

I've had to take a break from posting, too. I'll have to change my signature line again. I wish people would just quit quoting the bait posts. It's so much easier to ignore....Skip and scroll is best.

Is it true that Casey has been charged with another felony? Have they picked her up yet?

I agree. Too much nothingness happening in this case too. I'm getting saturated. The web cam freezing up for hours or days on end also helped to untie me from this board. That web cam is the devil I tell ya.

But I just discovered what is probably my favorite new feature on this updated board. When a poster is quoted there's a little arrow next to the quoted nic. Click the little arrow and it takes you to the place in the thread where the quoted poster posted! Maybe it's old news to y'all, but I just did that to find this post of yours and It's a fab feature.

[AnnInOhio]

Are we talking about the Zenaida Casey "claims" is the nanny? I thought I read where she said Zenaida had no children of her own?


I still go with my theory that Casey most likely got Zenaida's name off some document by breaking into her car the day she looked at the Sawgrass apartment. Zenaida Gonzalez was probably just a name that "stuck" in her head. She probably wouldn't have enough time to get much more than a name if there were no checks or banking info in the car to steal! Casey didn't work but always seemed to have money. It's common for all the petty criminals I know to break into cars looking for easy money. It's just too random to be a coincidence that Zenaida Gonzalez visited the apartment across the road from someone Casey knows and that's the name of the phantom nanny. It would be interesting to know where she parked her car that day and if it was registered in her name and if the registration was in the glovebox.

[spiritwolf46]

I agree. Too much nothingness happening in this case too. I'm getting saturated. The web cam freezing up for hours or days on end also helped to untie me from this board. That web cam is the devil I tell ya.

But I just discovered what is probably my favorite new feature on this updated board. When a poster is quoted there's a little arrow next to the quoted nic. Click the little arrow and it takes you to the place in the thread where the quoted poster posted! Maybe it's old news to y'all, but I just did that to find this post of yours and It's a fab feature.

I never knew what that arrow was about, Chev. Thanks! :seeya: Now I have to learn to quote more than one person at a time. :confused:

[WillowInFlight]

I think they have been exonerated to the satisfaction of the vast majority of the world.

ITA. :beer:

[Lorna]

I've been here for several years, you are the first poster I've seen who has a hard time accepting anyone's posts but their own..Now you get warm and fuzzy..The poster stated she typed it out wrong..Maybe you should read ALL the posts before trying to make a comment..

I agree with you kitty. Some are so sanctimonious and righteously indignant and have nothing else to contribute.

[Joan Weiss]

True words Joan. True words.

Casey will be in a Florida Prison by the end of December.

Merry Christmas & Happy New year. :)

IMO.Thank you, Shark. lol, you always
come on when I am leaving...have a nice day. :)

[toadii]

I have no idea if he worked previous to this last job. I really have no interest in finding out. He got a retirement pension from LE, so maybe didn't have to work.

He's not arrested, Casey is. imo
i was just wondering how he could retire with a pension at 31 yrs old . t

[tashi]

I do believe that also. But what I can't get past my brain is why they aren't doing anything in their power to want Caylee brought home. No matter what happened to her or who did it to her. jmo


It is baffling to me as well but I think some families prefer the "keep your head in the sand" mentality. In many ways it's a defense mechanism meant to protect yourself from things that are too distressing to face. I don't understand it personally, but it clearly exists for some. As an avid trail watcher, I've seen many families of convicted defendants continue to believe their loved one would never do what they are convicted of doing...even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

[WillowInFlight]

I never knew what that arrow was about, Chev. Thanks! :seeya: Now I have to learn to quote more than one person at a time. :confused:

I don't see an arrow,:confused:

[Joan Weiss]

I never knew what that arrow was about, Chev. Thanks! :seeya: Now I have to learn to quote more than one person at a time. :confused:Click the quotation mark next to the quote button, on the right. You can add as many quotes as you want to your post. Use the quote button for the last one you want to add on your "list." They'll all show up on your post in the reply box. :cool:

[5boxersmom]

So new charges were filed today? Are they taking her back to jail?


Caylee:rose:

[Chevalier]

If Najeme is really looking out for the Anthony's best interests, he really ought to point them in the direction of a good therapist / grief counselor to help them through this drawn out denial phase of their grief process.

[purplepoints]

I still go with my theory that Casey most likely got Zenaida's name off some document by breaking into her car the day she looked at the Sawgrass apartment. Zenaida Gonzalez was probably just a name that "stuck" in her head. She probably wouldn't have enough time to get much more than a name if there were no checks or banking info in the car to steal! Casey didn't work but always seemed to have money. It's common for all the petty criminals I know to break into cars looking for easy money. It's just too random to be a coincidence that Zenaida Gonzalez visited the apartment across the road from someone Casey knows and that's the name of the phantom nanny. It would be interesting to know where she parked her car that day and if it was registered in her name and if the registration was in the glovebox.

Just a thought - if this is true, and I think it is (Casey somehow saw this name and used it) that means that Cindy did lie and did not know the Zanny the Nanny before Casey came up with the story on the 15th. So, if they all thought Casey was working all this time, where did they really think Caylee was staying?

[~jomomma~]

will she have to be bailed out on these charges after going back to jail or just be able to go home again?

i was wondering about her bail too cuddly

[Chevalier]

I don't see an arrow,:confused:To the right of a quoted posters nic.

[purplepoints]

If Najeme is really looking out for the Anthony's best interests, he really ought to point them in the direction of a good therapist / grief counselor to help them through this drawn out denial phase of their grief process.

True that!

[Velouria]

C_E

The incident with George and the office supplies is referenced in this thread.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70707&highlight=Staples&page=21

Go down to post #511. This poster was at the command center the day it happened and overhead it being discussed. Apparently Staples had donated the supplies to TES, George found out and went to pick them up, but did NOT deliver them to their intended destination. TES had to purchase more supplies out of pocket. :mad:

Okay, so I know Camp Anthony is likely to dismiss this as rumor, but remember - George DID visit the command center that day, and may well have overheard someone mention the donation waiting for pick up.

[desmom]

Car back in garage, door is still up, but I can't tell if it is the car that was towing the billboard.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[AnnInOhio]

Yep, that makes sense. One thing that I am sure has bugged others besides just me is how did Casey come up with the ZFG name when someone with that name (actually just similar) actually did look at an apartment there. Can it be just a coincidence?

For arguments sake, let's believe Cindy and that would mean Casey actually made up the ZFG name almost 2 years ago. Where did it come from?

IIRC in the 400 docs, didn't it originally say that this ZG looked at the apartment in april, then when investigated, the card about her visit said June?

How long ago did the Zanny the Nanny book come out? Casey hypothetically could have mentioned Zanny two years before and then, when breaking into cars looking for money hit paydirt when she broke into ZFG's car after seeing her go into the apartment across from where Casey was staying. Zanny short for Zenaida who lives in Sawgrass apartments - note to self, Casey add this to your cover story!

[spiritwolf46]

Click the quotation mark next to the quote button, on the right. You can add as many quotes as you want to your post. Use the quote button for the last one you want to add on your "list." They'll all show up on your post in the reply box. :cool:

Hey Joan! Thanks!

I don't see an arrow,:confused:

Willow, the arrow is next to the name of the person you quoted. It will be in the quote box right beside the name.

[nutterbutter]

Click the quotation mark next to the quote button, on the right. You can add as many quotes as you want to your post. Use the quote button for the last one you want to add on your "list." They'll all show up on your post in the reply box. :cool:

So new charges were filed today? Are they taking her back to jail?


Caylee:rose:
testing...........test.oh wow pretty cool.

[WillowInFlight]

To the right of a quoted posters nic.

Oh good Lord, I see it now. LOL. DUH.

[Chevalier]

Car back in garage, door is still up, but I can't tell if it is the car that was towing the billboard.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
When did the billboard leave again?

[babblefishie]

True words Joan. True words.

Casey will be in a Florida Prison by the end of December.

Merry Christmas & Happy New year. :)

IMO.

That's what keeps me going too -- I remind myself that NO MATTER what, this momster is going away for a long time. Economic crimes, can be punished quite harshly from what I've seen and she's got a wack of them under her belt.

:rose: It will be a Christmas gift for Caylee

[snap4]

It is baffling to me as well but I think some families prefer the "keep your head in the sand" mentality. In many ways it's a defense mechanism meant to protect yourself from things that are too distressing to face. I don't understand it personally, but it clearly exists for some. As an avid trail watcher, I've seen many families of convicted defendants continue to believe their loved one would never do what they are convicted of doing...even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

You don't have to beleive that your family member did the unthinkable to search dead or alive for a loved one. Remember they beleive someone else took her...SO I would wonder if the "someone else" had harmed them and left their body somewhere, wouldn't you?
jmo

[AustinsMama]

It looks like someone is on the driveway??? Can anyone else see this on the webcam?

[Sweetly]

Miss Cindy is out on the lawn with her hammer again!

[margaritaville]

I never knew what that arrow was about, Chev. Thanks! :seeya: Now I have to learn to quote more than one person at a time. :confused:


Very cool! TY
Now do you know what the colored circle means next the nics? and why they are different colors?

Just curious!

[steffaroob4]

Car back in garage, door is still up, but I can't tell if it is the car that was towing the billboard.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

looks like she is hammering again, I don't feel like that is getting them anywhere.

I sure hope casey gets arrested today, is there a chance that the judge can take a second look on the bail, since the charges are piling up?

[frances1]

i was just wondering how he could retire with a pension at 31 yrs old . t


I'm sure the pension amount for that short of service time would not be much at all. Certainly not enough to live on, even for one person. I used to be in HR for state government.

[~jomomma~]

Miss Cindy is out on the lawn with her hammer again!

LMAO!!! oh my!!!!

[WillowInFlight]

It looks like someone is on the driveway??? Can anyone else see this on the webcam?

I need the link please.

[luvinlife]

C_E

The incident with George and the office supplies is referenced in this thread.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70707&highlight=Staples&page=21

Go down to post #511. This poster was at the command center the day it happened and overhead it being discussed. Apparently Staples had donated the supplies to TES, George found out and went to pick them up, but did NOT deliver them to their intended destination. TES had to purchase more supplies out of pocket. :mad:

Okay, so I know Camp Anthony is likely to dismiss this as rumor, but remember - George DID visit the command center that day, and may well have overheard someone mention the donation waiting for pick up.



I don't know what happened, but it also could be that GA went to staples and he was at the site to bring the items to TES and that poster wasnt' there. I will believe it when TES or LE tell me not a poster from WS. I have noticed this same poster accusing the Anthony's of all kinds of things and have yet to see proof from her. jmo

[MichelleP]

Not on the charges just posted, but there are more.

This is the first time I am seeing the grand theft auto charges, is this the first time she is being charged with it or was she previously charged with it before? Thank you.