Wednesday Afternoon/Early Evening Discussion - Sept. 10th

[True2Blues]

If the "protesters" cannot control their provocative behaviors and choices and seem to need to physically and emotionally harass and provoke grieving and extremely stressed people..they need to seek help or stay at home. They make their bed by choosing to physically go over to the Anthony home..its theirs to deal with. No sympathy from me what so ever. I hope their mothers spank their immature little behinds and send them to bed with no dinner.:biggrin:

I missed the protesters physically provoking the Anthonys. When was that?

They are within their rights to protest and I've seen them do that, but I haven't seen anyone touch one of the Anthonys. Though George seems to like physically assaulting them.

[KatieKates]

Hello everyone :seeya:
Trying to catch up as well.

I am sure that this has probably been discussed but in the document dump didn't Casey say that Zanny attended UCF...the campus where LE is now actively searching as of yesterday (a heavy wooded area that is near the campus)?

They touched on this on NG last night, and apparently so. IIRC.

[Syd'sMiMi]

If the "protesters" cannot control their provocative behaviors and choices and seem to need to physically and emotionally harass and provoke grieving and extremely stressed people..they need to seek help or stay at home. They make their bed by choosing to physically go over to the Anthony home..its theirs to deal with. No sympathy from me what so ever. I hope their mothers spank their immature little behinds and send them to bed with no dinner.:biggrin:


Ok, so if Caylee is alive and in TX, PR, NY and the kidnappers are being watched, why are the Anthony's grieving??? Didn't the lawyer for CA & GA state that they were grieving? If they know where she is and who has her then why in sam hill don't they go and bring her home? Because she is not alive and they don't know where Casey dumped her precious little body. That's why?

[lonetraveler]

You need to go and listen to Lee's testimony at the bail hearing. Under oath, he stated that Absolutely he could get Casey to tell him the truth if they would just set bail. Which is another clue IMHO, each of the Anthony's including Casey use the word "Absolutely" every other sentence when questioned. It becomes really repetitive and noticeable.

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IMO, Casey has told Lee the truth. I firmly believe that all the Anthonys know the truth. Their love for Casey obviously is much greater than their love for a dead Caylee. As Cindy said "something like this: There is nothing we can do. And she also mentioned that they were at peace now...........IMO, George would not trust Casey to hide Caylee's body so that LE or anyone else would find it. I believe that he knows, personally, where Caylee is, therefore, Casey is probably telling the truth about not "really" knowing where Caylee is.

[Kathlb]

Here it is, the whole act.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17441792/index.html

Wow, even the news people were telling him he can't destroy her property. (not speaking of the man who brought her sign back but the news media). Then he went back and took her dog's water, dumped it and headed up the street to the trash of some neighbor. I can't believe he did that. He also lied to her and she kept calling him on it very politely. They have truly lost it. She was about as peaceful and quiet as anyone could ever be. IMHO

[Chillin]

Yes, yippee, let's waste the tax payers money and clog the courts more. :rolleyes:
I;m in Fla. I vote for them to use my taxes to press charges against a bully. Maybe Lee will learn a lesson. Then he can explain it to his father and mother.

[firefly75]

That isn't at all what Savannah said, and you know it.

Stop the drama already.

oh sweetie your one to talk;)

[Dogmatic]

ITA. I am NOT an apologist for the Anthony family, but I think this is just human nature. Is their reaction "right"? No, IMO. But nothing good will come of the protests. It will only make the Anthony's see Casey as a martyr and dig in their heels harder which is a very twisted way of looking at things but it is a FACT that their way of looking at things is twisted by anyone's perspective. Yes, we may have the right to protest people (although I'm not positive about this applying to individual, private citizens) but just because it's legal doesn't mean we should do it.

It reminds me of someone poking a stick at an animal, tease, tease, tease, and then being incredulous that the animal bites them. What good would come of the provocation?

I bet I *could* go to my neighbors whose political beliefs differ than my own, and picket, yell, record live on a website, their home, coming and goings, etc. But I wouldn't be surprised if I got my azz kicked.

Again, I ask, what good will come of it? :shrug:


Bravo. It's just like the playground bully that torments a kid for months and then yells "he took the first swing" when the poor, tormented, soul retaliates.

They aren't helping Caylee, they are baiting the Anthony's.

[Armchairdet]

Absolutly not lol

Well, actually Lee was just a spokesperson for the homeowners. He was but a tiny child when the family moved there and would not have signed anything. He is not a resident of the home. So as far as the lady was concerned he was just some guy telling her what to do..in a legal way. I know she knows who he is. Just saying..she didn't really have to listen to him. She could have. But she didn't have to. IMO

[Chevalier]

Interesting that Lee's rationalized taking the woman's sign due to homeowner's association restrictions on signs. Shortly thereafter, the Anthony's had the billboard parked in front of their house again.

[KKKKKKatie]

But who are any of you to dictate where she stays? The court doesn't have a problem, and neither should any of you. imo


Why do you have to make it personal? bay knows full well she can't dictate where Casey goes...it's called an opinion and a debate. :rolleyes:

[luvinlife]

What good would it do to file charges against Lee? Is that what you mean?

Personally, I would never let someone who used violence against me go without legal recourse. I don't think she was being violent at all so there's no tit for tat.

If I misunderstood your post, I apologize in advance.

In real life, there are many times when people have to use their internal ignore button. It's easy to do, if only the Anthonys would try it.


So the Anthony's who are going through the most painful period in their lifetime, should use their internal ignore, but the protestor who have no personal relationship with this situation or people in it ,shouldn't have to use theirs.

[dvsone]

Jesse's Grund's father wrote an amazing blog, I wish I still had the link; asking for mercy and empathy; indicating that if one hasn't shown mercy, they will not receive mercy.

I'm frankly appalled at the media, the protestors, and the manner in which everyone is so quick to jump on every little detail that could be interpreted negatively ... ie, when trash lady first reported that cards had been thrown out, most were so disgusted that the Anthony's would throw out Hallmark Cards from well-wishers ... then, it was revealed that only postcards from protestors were thrown out.

This case is a media circus, the media is there only because of ratings. If they were there because they cared so much, they would be in my neighborhood showing the 38 year old woman who gave birth at her home, put the baby in the dumpster, only to have her 11 year old daughter retrieve it.

An average of 2400 children go missing in the US every day. Now if someone wants to get behind a cause, that certainly is one to take on. Why isn't the media focusing that? Because it won't bring in the ratings.

Casey may or may not have murdered Caylee. One thing for sure, Caylee is missing, and is probably dead. Cindy, George and Lee have lost a family member, and are facing losing another one. How is screaming in front of their home going to change anything? It isn't.

IMO

You win post of sensibilty for today! :beer:

[jessjam]

That isn't at all what Savannah said, and you know it.

Stop the drama already.

Why don't you stop the drama already!

[impartial]

OMG, impartial. You are amazing. POST OF THE DAY from me. :rose:

I too loved Richard Grund's blog that you're talking about. Another truly amazing human being.

:beer:


Thanks, SS. Perhaps working on brain damaged baby cases for years has caused me to be too empathetic. Those tiny babies didn't do anything wrong, and yet, their lives from birth are horrific.


I'm hoping Lynn has the link and will weigh in with it.

:seeya:


IMO

[baywench]

But who are any of you to dictate where she stays? The court doesn't have a problem, and neither should any of you. imo

I believe I was addressing a poster on the issue of the protestors. I have not dictated anything to anyone No, not me, not a dictator...just a poster on a message board:) Maybe you should take a break....not dictating, just suggesting. jmo

[jbellaj]

According to Lee they were County and don't know what they are talking about :rolleyes:

Well I'm sure there is something in writing somewhere to show that is public property. I know here in Ga. the township took over that part of land in some neighborhoods to widen the street so people could park on the streets since where I live we don't have sidewalks.

[day2day]

Well, you don't really think the local Police know the laws better than Lee and the Home Owners Association now, do you?

:D ..great post!
Note to the Anthony's
If you really believe that Caylee is alive, you might wanna curb your tempers. Children Services just might be watching and if you don't settle down they won't allow her back in your care. Your tempers are scarin some of us....

~a concerned citizen..

jmo

[kitty1182]

Wonder if that woman would say, "Not MY dog! Not MY dog!"

Hahahaha :lol:

[crystalclear]

snipped respectfully... Because she is not alive and they don't know where Casey dumped her precious little body. That's why?
Uhm so I think that means they are grieving.

[KKKKKKatie]

Well, actually Lee was just a spokesperson for the homeowners. He was but a tiny child when the family moved there and would not have signed anything. He is not a resident of the home. So as far as the lady was concerned he was just some guy telling her what to do..in a legal way. I know she knows who he is. Just saying..she didn't really have to listen to him. She could have. But she didn't have to. IMO


I agree....and by comparison I thought she was very nice to him and very calm

[spiritwolf46]

I;m in Fla. I vote for them to use my taxes to press charges against a bully. Maybe Lee will learn a lesson. Then he can explain it to his father and mother.

If I lived in Fla. i would do the exact same! Thanks chillin!

:rose: For CAYLEE

[firefly75]

Interesting that Lee's rationalized taking the woman's sign due to homeowner's association restrictions on signs. Shortly thereafter, the Anthony's had the billboard parked in front of their house again.
That is exactly what I thought but like always the rules are for everyone else but the Anthonys

[Armchairdet]

I agree....and by comparison I thought she was very nice to him and very calm

I thought so too.

[KatieKates]

Thanks. What does IIRC mean? I have always wanted to ask...

Incidentally it appears the dark lass will be going back to the slammer
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html

IIRC=If I remember correctly. ;)

Thanks for the link!

[OneUp]

How many other family members of abused and neglected and yes even murdered children get these kind of CRAZY protesters, media coverage, video cams, etc. You consider it "doing their job" by allowing these crazies to push people to their brink and putting out leaks wtihout proof? Are they and many of you just waiting to see a live murder on that video cam when these people are pushed beyond what they can handle? Truly sickening IMO.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7394244&version=1&locale=EN-USIf you are asking what I think you are asking...I do think LE is doing their job.
Though I do wish they would expect the Anthony's to follow the law. They have ticketed a few protestors have they not?
I see protestors outside the homes of child abusers, sex offenders, and murderers frequently. Though if you read my post you will see that protesting is not my way, nor do I specifically condone it.
Regarding the other families of missing children, I think most of them would give just about anything to have their child featured on the national news for one night. I have never seen another family of a missing child act as this one has, cursing at the puiblic, refusing to cooperate on terms they don't set, assaulting people, and mocking LE at every turn ( except when they call the police to THEIR rescue).
*I do not want to see anyone murdered or even hurt. I personally do not even want to see Casey physically harmed, I'm not an advocate of the Death Penalty.
aAways, JMO.

[KKKKKKatie]

Interesting that Lee's rationalized taking the woman's sign due to homeowner's association restrictions on signs. Shortly thereafter, the Anthony's had the billboard parked in front of their house again.

that one had me shaking my head lol

[Adonna]

I believe the Anthony's are looking via their cam from inside the house for anything outside their home to spice up extra drama for their highly possible book and movie. Cindy so cunning with the water hose on that lady and her dog. Cindy knew she was on camera for a little extra drama! Give me a break, she knew weeks ago this could turn into a movie or book. To profit off Caylee is the utmost disgrace, to even consider it is!

They should worry less about peaceful demostrators outside their home and putting all their frustrations on Casey who knows Caylee's fate! Why are they watching a cam when their baby needs a decentresting placed? Casey is the one they need to direct their frustrations at for the truth!

What is the matter with them?! As a grandparent I could never in a million years act as they do...worried about the Home Owners Association when my grandchild is out there missing and most likely not
with us anymore on this earth.

[day2day]

Thanks, SS. Perhaps working on brain damaged baby cases for years has caused me to be too empathetic. Those tiny babies didn't do anything wrong, and yet, their lives from birth are horrific.


I'm hoping Lynn has the link and will weigh in with it.

:seeya:


IMO
Here's his link and please if you have time read his latest writings and listen to the song..it is beautiful!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=428758943

[GrandmaGA]

ITA. I am NOT an apologist for the Anthony family, but I think this is just human nature. Is their reaction "right"? No, IMO. But nothing good will come of the protests. It will only make the Anthony's see Casey as a martyr and dig in their heels harder which is a very twisted way of looking at things but it is a FACT that their way of looking at things is twisted by anyone's perspective. Yes, we may have the right to protest people (although I'm not positive about this applying to individual, private citizens) but just because it's legal doesn't mean we should do it.

It reminds me of someone poking a stick at an animal, tease, tease, tease, and then being incredulous that the animal bites them. What good would come of the provocation?

I bet I *could* go to my neighbors whose political beliefs differ than my own, and picket, yell, record live on a website, their home, coming and goings, etc. But I wouldn't be surprised if I got my azz kicked.

Again, I ask, what good will come of it? :shrug:



Good? NONE IMO but a lot of BAD will come out of it IMO. They are pushing these people until they crack and then we will have people come on these boards and say well, they asked for it. All the A's are asking for is to be left alone and to find Caylee as they see fit. If these people who THINK they have all the answers let them search as they see fit but harrassing the A's and the whole neighborhood is beyond disgusting and they are acting wrose than animals. Do onto others!!!!

[Mairi II]

Could the HOA ask the Anthonys to move? I don't live in one so I don't know how they work. What kind of authority do they have? I can't believe they can "evict" a person who owns their own home - but can they flex any kind of muscle if they so choose?

[Albini]

Just to interject on this comment from impartial


An average of 2400 children go missing in the US every day. Now if someone wants to get behind a cause, that certainly is one to take on. Why isn't the media focusing that? Because it won't bring in the ratings.

The vast majority of those children who are reported missing are vicitms of parental abductions. Another small percents are runaways and kids who were not where they were supoosed to be at the time.

That is vastly different then a case of a child who is taken by a stranger.

There are agencies who are behind those causes. And they are horridly underfunded.

Any case of a child who has gone missing is a tragedy. But I do understand why the media tends to focus on the stranger abductions moreso then the parental abductions. In cases of those abductions the mortaility rate is almost nil.

In the case of stranger abductions, the death rate is almost 100%.

Children taken by strangers make up only 3% of abductions. So the idea that the media gives that issues more airtime is understandable. Maybe not morally right, as a child is a child...but understandable IMO.

[Hey Paula]

But Casey's parents are not just not trying, they are talking like everything Casey has said is the truth. And Casey has said nothing but pure fiction. That is enabling their criminal of a daughter.

Perhaps they feel if they earn Casey's trust, she will tell them what has become of Caylee. When the family demanded answers about Caylee's whereabouts when Casey was in jail the first time, she accused them of being against her and caring solely about Caylee without regard for her being imprisoned. She clammed up and refused their visits.

As a parent and grandparent myself, I can't imagine being placed in the Anthonys' position. Cindy had Casey arrested in order to find her beloved granddaughter and this resulted in her daughter being suspected of her granddaughter's demise. I can't fathom a worse position to be in.

What can this family possibly do to find Caylee, whom they want so much to believe is alive and don't want to entertain the thought she died while in their daughter's care, custody and control? These thoughts are likely inconceivable to them. Most families of the missing cling to every last bit of hope until there is physical proof their loved one has actually perished.

IMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Why do you have to make it personal? bay knows full well she can't dictate where Casey goes...it's called an opinion and a debate. :rolleyes:

Exactly doll. I can't understand why people do what they do and twist peoples posts.

[True2Blues]

ITA, she was not being disruptive. The cameras have been there since day one, I don't recall protesters until Casey was released from jail....I hope someone gave the dog more water.:patriot:

I think the local Humane Society need to have a talk with Lee about taking water from an animal.

[SavannahStar]

So the Anthony's who are going through the most painful period in their lifetime, should use their internal ignore, but the protestor who have no personal relationship with this situation or people in it ,shouldn't have to use theirs.

Oh you missed the discussion. Ya know, that's right, the Anthonys need to ignore the protestors but if the protestors use THEIR "ignore button" it means they are ignoring a precious missing child. So we should all descend on the Anthonys' home to prove that we care about that child. :rolleyes:

[jbellaj]

ITA, she was not being disruptive. The cameras have been there since day one, I don't recall protesters until Casey was released from jail....I hope someone gave the dog more water.:patriot:

I understand and agree however why does the media have to be there 24/7. Quite frankly what's so interesting about watching Casey leave to go to Baez's office and come home from his office? :shrug:

[msjoni]

Oh honey they have circled the wagons around Casey.

If thats what the feel the need to do ...so be it....but dont get mad when some in the puplic see it as throwing Caylee under the bus.

But they have thrown that poor baby under the bus and that is what I can't understand....:rose:

[KKKKKKatie]

Exactly doll. I can't understand why people do what they do and twist peoples posts.


tis a puzzlement :)

[Armchairdet]

Could the HOA ask the Anthonys to move? I don't live in one so I don't know how they work. What kind of authority do they have? I can't believe they can "evict" a person who owns their own home - but can they flex any kind of muscle if they so choose?

I could be wrong, because someone else told me this. I have not found out for sure if it is true. But I have heard that an HOA can have it to where they do not allow people with felony convictions. I know that has not happened here...BUT, if that is true then perhaps they can have other exclusions. IMO

[MyrDawn]

Ok, but was what I said correct or was I way off base? TIA

You were defintely correct. They can't request discovery or evidence until she's charged. Only to preserve evidence, which would be turned over after she's charged.

[Cury-us Coyote]

OMG, impartial. You are amazing. POST OF THE DAY from me. :rose:

I too loved Richard Grund's blog that you're talking about. Another truly amazing human being.

:beer:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=428758943

[hamebone]

Wow, even the news people were telling him he can't destroy her property. (not speaking of the man who brought her sign back but the news media). Then he went back and took her dog's water, dumped it and headed up the street to the trash of some neighbor. I can't believe he did that. He also lied to her and she kept calling him on it very politely. They have truly lost it. She was about as peaceful and quiet as anyone could ever be. IMHO


Wonder why he took it to a neighbors trash?

I thought when I watched it does he lie too..

He was telling her she heard wrong...or it wasnt him she talked to someone else ...very odd

[trich]

I hope he realizes how stupid he looked with that sign and pouring the dogs water out and taking the water bowl.
IMO that is outrageous.
The Sheriff from what I read said she had right to be there.

Oh by the way does Lee not work either.....how is he supporting his family.
That is if he even has one....I thought I read he had a wife and child not sure if that is true though.

[True2Blues]

Could the HOA ask the Anthonys to move? I don't live in one so I don't know how they work. What kind of authority do they have? I can't believe they can "evict" a person who owns their own home - but can they flex any kind of muscle if they so choose?

They can ask, but the HOA isn't immune to the laws. They have to follow them, just like everyone else.

[k_can004]

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IMO, Casey has told Lee the truth. I firmly believe that all the Anthonys know the truth. Their love for Casey obviously is much greater than their love for a dead Caylee. As Cindy said "something like this: There is nothing we can do. And she also mentioned that they were at peace now...........IMO, George would not trust Casey to hide Caylee's body so that LE or anyone else would find it. I believe that he knows, personally, where Caylee is, therefore, Casey is probably telling the truth about not "really" knowing where Caylee is.


ita

:rose: CAYLEE

[KKKKKKatie]

Could the HOA ask the Anthonys to move? I don't live in one so I don't know how they work. What kind of authority do they have? I can't believe they can "evict" a person who owns their own home - but can they flex any kind of muscle if they so choose?


I live in one and I believe there is a nuisance clause with hefty fines they can attach.

[SavannahStar]

Perhaps they feel if they earn Casey's trust, she will tell them what has become of Caylee. When the family demanded answers about Caylee's whereabouts when Casey was in jail the first time, she accused them of being against her and caring solely about Caylee without regard for her being imprisoned. She clammed up and refused their visits.

As a parent and grandparent myself, I can't imagine being placed in the Anthonys' position. Cindy had Casey arrested in order to find her beloved granddaughter and this resulted in her daughter being suspected of her granddaughter's demise. I can't fathom a worse position to be in.

What can this family possibly do to find Caylee, whom they want so much to believe is alive and don't want to entertain the thought she died while in their daughter's care, custody and control? These thoughts are likely inconceivable to them. Most families of the missing cling to every last bit of hope until there is physical proof their loved one has actually perished.

IMO

I've been enjoying your posts on here, Paula.

[Dogmatic]

Perhaps they feel if they earn Casey's trust, she will tell them what has become of Caylee. When the family demanded answers about Caylee's whereabouts when Casey was in jail the first time, she accused them of being against her and caring solely about Caylee without regard for her being imprisoned. She clammed up and refused their visits.

As a parent and grandparent myself, I can't imagine being placed in the Anthonys' position. Cindy had Casey arrested in order to find her beloved granddaughter and this resulted in her daughter being suspected of her granddaughter's demise. I can't fathom a worse position to be in.

What can this family possibly do to find Caylee, whom they want so much to believe is alive and don't want to entertain the thought she died while in their daughter's care, custody and control? These thoughts are likely inconceivable to them. Most families of the missing cling to every last bit of hope until there is physical proof their loved one has actually perished.

IMO


Bingo! Knowing is always better than wondering

[Armchairdet]

Thanks I really was way off base...I thought IIRC meant something way different.

Yeppers...Casey going back to the slammer o rammer...this is beginning to feel like a broken yo yo.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html
She is not going to talk...


Oh that is mean...now I want to know what you thought iirc meant. LOL

[KatieKates]

Thanks I really was way off base...I thought IIRC meant something way different.

Yeppers...Casey going back to the slammer o rammer...this is beginning to feel like a broken yo yo.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html
She is not going to talk...

I don't see her talking either. I think they're starting to realize that being in the comforts of mommy and daddy's home isn't doing the trick. They should arrest her on the fraud charges, raise the bail, and stick her in solitary until her court date. That's really the only way I see this working, if at all. IMO :rolleyes:

[Fallen Angel]

Thanks I really was way off base...I thought IIRC meant something way different.

Yeppers...Casey going back to the slammer o rammer...this is beginning to feel like a broken yo yo.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html
She is not going to talk...

i wonder who will bail her out then

[Windsmiles]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!

[impartial]

Here's his link and please if you have time read his latest writings and listen to the song..it is beautiful!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=428758943


Thank you !!!

:seeya:

[jbellaj]

Thanks. What does IIRC mean? I have always wanted to ask...

Incidentally it appears the dark lass will be going back to the slammer
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html

IMO Baez will have her turn herself in and have boond posted again. It will be a 24 hour 48 hours at the most turn around. Same verse as the first. JMO

[MyrDawn]

Since she hasn't been charged with the crime of murder, can he do that? Unless she's admitting she did Caylee in, I wouldn't think Baez would have any right to tell LE what to do with evidence in their investigation. Especially since LE hasn't said they intended to arrest Casey, so it's his own hunch' he goes on.

He can file the motion to preserve it, not to have it turned over to him, since she hasn't been charged yet. The judge can decide whether to approve the motion or not.

[Katprint]

Bravo. It's just like the playground bully that torments a kid for months and then yells "he took the first swing" when the poor, tormented, soul retaliates.

They aren't helping Caylee, they are baiting the Anthony's.
What kind of freakish playground bullies did you have at your elementary school? The bullies at mine were the hands-on type like George and Lee. "Sticks and Stones" are indeed worse than "Names" that will "never hurt me." Thank God that LE already took away the hidden gun - I hope there's no more guns on the property of these short fuses.

And you can call it "baiting" but I think "protesting" is the right word as in "They are protesting the Anthony family's decision to harbor a murderer."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Mairi II]

I could be wrong, because someone else told me this. I have not found out for sure if it is true. But I have heard that an HOA can have it to where they do not allow people with felony convictions. I know that has not happened here...BUT, if that is true then perhaps they can have other exclusions. IMO

I can believe that (about the felonies). Thanks!

Lee, I think, said something to the woman with the beautiful St. Bernard about the sign not being allowed - I thought it was by the HOA. I wonder what the HOA can do, though, if you go against their rules. Maybe I misunderstood Lee, too.

I thought he was very polite and restrained. Then he had to grandstand for the cameras and blew my positive opinion of him.

[SavannahStar]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=428758943

Thank you. Well worth the read if anyone missed it. :rose:

[Shellberry]

According to Lee they were County and don't know what they are talking about :rolleyes:
could be-if you've ever lived in a gated community you'd know what he was talking about.

they have their own 'police'- IE neighborhood watch-supposed to take care of crime stuff, etc

there is one right next to me, no gate, so anyone can drive through- we go through there as a shortcut to get to walmart, in every block is a little area posting all the 'rules' of the community, as well as neighborhood watch signs

anyhoo

imo/jmo

[OneUp]

:beer:

I can't imagine wasting a "right" on protesting in front of their house like that, but, to each their own, I suppose. JMOIMO, exercising your rights is never a "waste". I take my rights seriously, and I hope others do too. I cannot legislate my morality onto others, and I do not always approve of how they exercise their rights.
Frankly, in this case the only one whose rights concern me are Caylees rights which have been sorely abused IMO, and my right to post my opinion here at IS.
JMO.

[KKKKKKatie]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!


there is a huge list of videos here

http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html

Welcome to the boards....only a few here bite :D

[luvinlife]

ITA

I mean even if they think Caylee is alive, at least go door to door... I would be, at least. I guess GPs, Lee & Casey feel doing nothing but being critical of any search effort (including LE) is the way to go.

I also wonder why Casey is spending SO MUCH TIME at her Attorney's office.... be real. I wonder if Baez is allowing her freedoms she cant get at home.

JMO.IMO


What doors LE looked where Casey said she thought Caylee would be, found out everything was bs, where should they look, she is not talking. All they can do is hand out flyers, drive around a billboard, send tips received to LE. Casey isnt telling them anything either, at least not the truth.

We don't know who they are calling, desperately trying to find one tiny shred of proof of who Caylee is with. Calling LE in all the places that these tips are coming from and letting LE know about tips is really all they can do.

Befor anyone tells me that they should have helped with the ground search well that is not where I would look if I believed someone was alive.

I do think Casey killed Caylee, but I can also understand why the Anthony's want to believe she is alive.

[True2Blues]

I understand and agree however why does the media have to be there 24/7. Quite frankly what's so interesting about watching Casey leave to go to Baez's office and come home from his office? :shrug:


It's their job. This is a big case, it has National attention. If they didn't cover it, people would wonder why. It's a very competitive business and everyone wants the story.

If everyone stopped watching the news, there would be no need for them to care, but until then, it's going to go on.

[Mairi II]

I live in one and I believe there is a nuisance clause with hefty fines they can attach.

Ahhhhhhhhhh, okay. So it's fines (which they shouldn't be assessed for, under the circumstances) - not like they can be compelled to move. Thanks for your reply.

[Oregongal]

Watching him trying to break that sign was hilarious!

So? Another arrest could be coming soon! VERY good! We will see how long it takes her to get out of that one. With their new found funds, I would bet less than 24 hours.

Am on, trying to catch up, just came to last page so all I'm caught up on is the video with the sign incident with Lee.
I'm not sure how I feel about the sign, it was awful large and Lee kept mentioning the HOA and some injunction. I think he handled it much better than George would have, but think he should have just moved it across the street or to the curb. One thing I kind of chuckled at tho was when that man brought her sign back to her, I noticed her dog stepping over the yellow tape into the yard...all I could think was uh-oh, Cindy's gonna come out with the house, hope the dog didn't decided to relieve itself on the lawn.
:eek:
Looking forward to seeing the A's attorney on NG tonight. Hope you all are having a good afternoon/evening.

[kitty1182]

I hope he realizes how stupid he looked with that sign and pouring the dogs water out and taking the water bowl.
IMO that is outrageous.
The Sheriff from what I read said she had right to be there.

Oh by the way does Lee not work either.....how is he supporting his family.
That is if he even has one....I thought I read he had a wife and child not sure if that is true though.

I thought he worked too..Looks like he's Caseys' driver now.Maybe he and wife or girlfriend , which ever it is, have moved in with the rest of them, waiting on the "gravy train" to roll in..

[MyrDawn]

Thank you. Well worth the read if anyone missed it. :rose:

Oh, that was beautiful! :rose:

[KKKKKKatie]

could be-if you've ever lived in a gated community you'd know what he was talking about.

they have their own 'police'- IE neighborhood watch-supposed to take care of crime stuff, etc

there is one right next to me, no gate, so anyone can drive through- we go through there as a shortcut to get to walmart, in every block is a little area posting all the 'rules' of the community, as well as neighborhood watch signs

anyhoo

imo/jmo

I do live in one....the "police" here are just a security company. If you have a problem you don't call them you call the real police. Theyonly take care of parking and such

[KatieKates]

IMO, exercising your rights is never a "waste". I take my rights seriously, and I hope others do too. I cannot legislate my morality onto others, and I do not always approve of how they exercise their rights.
Frankly, in this case the only one whose rights concern me are Caylees rights which have been sorely abused IMO, and my right to post my opinion here at IS.
JMO.

I can see your point. :)

[Dogmatic]

What kind of freakish playground bullies did you have at your elementary school? The bullies at mine were the hands-on type like George and Lee. "Sticks and Stones" are indeed worse than "Names" that will "never hurt me." Thank God that LE already took away the hidden gun - I hope there's no more guns on the property of these short fuses.

And you can call it "baiting" but I think "protesting" is the right word as in "They are protesting the Anthony family's decision to harbor a murderer."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I call it stalking.

No murder charges have been filed.

[day2day]

Thank you !!!

:seeya:

YVW, Impartial! :seeya:

[pebblepup]

Why don't you quit talking to yourself!


:punch: Rather than being rude, why don't you just put her on ignore? She has the right to state her opinion whether we agree with it or not, just like anyone else.

Anyway, I hope it isn't too hot outside for that dog. I think that lady could get her point across without subjecting her dog to excessive heat. Notice, she's wearing a ball cap. That dog has no shade. :(

[Armchairdet]

I thought sadly that it meant Information in real context. I am such a weirdo. I have been seeing that forever and that is what I thought it meant. :punch:



There is a board on here..or was that tells you the common ones. You are not a weirdo, I have to google some of them myself.

[Chevalier]

That was one tough sign and one very polite, lady.

[KKKKKKatie]

Ahhhhhhhhhh, okay. So it's fines (which they shouldn't be assessed for, under the circumstances) - not like they can be compelled to move. Thanks for your reply.

I would have to go read mine...but I don't want to...it is HUGE lol

If I see my neighbor I will ask him...he is on the board

[GrandmaGA]

What kind of freakish playground bullies did you have at your elementary school? The bullies at mine were the hands-on type like George and Lee. "Sticks and Stones" are indeed worse than "Names" that will "never hurt me." Thank God that LE already took away the hidden gun - I hope there's no more guns on the property of these short fuses.

And you can call it "baiting" but I think "protesting" is the right word as in "They are protesting the Anthony family's decision to harbor a murderer."

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsReally, when was the trial and conviction let alone the arrest for murder? :no:

[jbellaj]

You were defintely correct. They can't request discovery or evidence until she's charged. Only to preserve evidence, which would be turned over after she's charged.

Thank you, I thought maybe I was wrong.

[OneUp]

I know people have rights to a peaceful protest.

However, aren't there stalking laws that might apply to this situation?

I mean, think about it.

If some person is outside my home, carrying a sign, and staring at my house and they tell police they are protesting my opinion on a situation, isn't that stalking?

I think if we let this continue, we will allow every stalker in America a whole bunch of rights.

just thinking out loudFYI, stalking involves repetitive behavior on the part of an individual. There may be some individual protestors out there day after day, but I haven't heard of it. Nor have I heard of any who follow the Anthony's around.
JMO.
Let's try not to minimize the terror of actual stalking victims, VN Vets./MIA have already had their terror and torture compared to these.....Indidviduals called the Anthony family. That was rotten enough. IMO.

[Armchairdet]

I can believe that (about the felonies). Thanks!

Lee, I think, said something to the woman with the beautiful St. Bernard about the sign not being allowed - I thought it was by the HOA. I wonder what the HOA can do, though, if you go against their rules. Maybe I misunderstood Lee, too.

I thought he was very polite and restrained. Then he had to grandstand for the cameras and blew my positive opinion of him.

If something is against their rules, they can warn or fine the homeowner. I do not believe they have power over citizens that are obeying the law. Their rules are not law they are just that rules. IMO

[Shellberry]

Could the HOA ask the Anthonys to move? I don't live in one so I don't know how they work. What kind of authority do they have? I can't believe they can "evict" a person who owns their own home - but can they flex any kind of muscle if they so choose?

they can-everyone would have to vote on it.
it really depends on what is in their particular set of 'rules'.

My other halfs mom lives in one -she is in SC.
man the stuff you can and cant do on your own property is just crazy in one of those communities, I'd never want to live in one.

imo/jmo

[Katprint]

I call it stalking.

No murder charges have been filed.
1) Florida law defines Stalking (penal code 784.048) as "Willful, malicious and repeated following or harassing another with credible threats with the intent to place person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury; or willfully, maliciously, repeatedly follows or harasses minor under 16; or after injunction for protection or any court-imposed prohibition of conduct, knowingly, willfully, maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another person."

I have not seen the "credible threats" or the harassment of a "minor under 16" or any injunction prohibiting the protests. But don't let the law concern you - the Anthonys certainly don't concern themselves with following the law.

2) A murderer is still a murderer even before murder charges are filed. Scott Peterson, for example, was a still murderer after he killed his wife but before the murder charges were filed.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[kitty1182]

That was one tough sign and one very polite, lady.

I so agree..:beer:

[BJames]

Holy cow...I just watched that video of Lee taking that lady's sign and trying to destroy it.
Things are not so good in Oz right now...

Just my opinion of course...

[True2Blues]

He can file the motion to preserve it, not to have it turned over to him, since she hasn't been charged yet. The judge can decide whether to approve the motion or not.

Thank you.

[Windsmiles]

Thanks for the links. I still plan to tread lightly.

[KatieKates]

I want to know what that means too. I also want to know how do you get those lil smileys inside your post. Also, one more thing. Is there a link for the people who went to search? I was able to sneak a peak earlier and seen one of the searchers giving some details but I'd like to know if there's a thread showing who all searched and were their cost covered. I'm so proud of those people who took time to drive down there and make a difference.

Diane, just click on the smiley you want in the box next to the text block when you're writing your message. it will be coded, but it will appear in your post.

I also applaud those that are searching in that heat. It must be grueling.

[Shellberry]

I do live in one....the "police" here are just a security company. If you have a problem you don't call them you call the real police. Theyonly take care of parking and such

not in the gated community down the road from me (this one actually has a gate you need to pass your card through)
or in the one that we take our shortcut through.

:shrug:


imo/jmo

[Carol25]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!
Please don't be scared. We all were once! :)

[impartial]

I understand and agree however why does the media have to be there 24/7. Quite frankly what's so interesting about watching Casey leave to go to Baez's office and come home from his office? :shrug:


I don't watch the web cam ... not because I am not curious, but because it's just a little too big brother for me.

Watching Casey come and go has no interest to me either. I also don't think she should be vilified for being out on bail. Many Horses' bail is $250,000 and she confessed to having her son in her trunk since May; and yet she her bail is half of what Casey's is.

I think LE thought if they pressured her enough, she would break. I don't see that happening at this point.

If she didn't break during that interrogation, I don't know what it would take ... heck, I was almost ready to confess just reading it. :eek:


IMO

[baywench]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!



Welcome...don't be scared. You'll be fine as long as you agree with my opinion....Just kidding.

[summer4meplz]

could be-if you've ever lived in a gated community you'd know what he was talking about.

they have their own 'police'- IE neighborhood watch-supposed to take care of crime stuff, etc

there is one right next to me, no gate, so anyone can drive through- we go through there as a shortcut to get to walmart, in every block is a little area posting all the 'rules' of the community, as well as neighborhood watch signs

anyhoo

imo/jmo

can anyone just drive in a "gated community"

[Mairi II]

Perhaps they feel if they earn Casey's trust, she will tell them what has become of Caylee. When the family demanded answers about Caylee's whereabouts when Casey was in jail the first time, she accused them of being against her and caring solely about Caylee without regard for her being imprisoned. She clammed up and refused their visits.

As a parent and grandparent myself, I can't imagine being placed in the Anthonys' position. Cindy had Casey arrested in order to find her beloved granddaughter and this resulted in her daughter being suspected of her granddaughter's demise. I can't fathom a worse position to be in.

What can this family possibly do to find Caylee, whom they want so much to believe is alive and don't want to entertain the thought she died while in their daughter's care, custody and control? These thoughts are likely inconceivable to them. Most families of the missing cling to every last bit of hope until there is physical proof their loved one has actually perished.

IMO

Paula, you always humble me. Thanks. :)

[trich]

I just can not believe the Anthony's can not make Casey tell what she did with Caylee.
I wonder if they had not let her stay at the house...at least at night because that seems to be the only time she is there....
would she have been allowed to be out on bail?
I can not see anyone else letting her live with them.

I would have made her life so miserable she would have told or she would be back in jail.

[GrandmaGA]

Hi Crymeariver (love your name),

I actually do remember there being protesters at the Anthonys after Casey went back to jail though not as many. I remember posting on it because I was surprised. I can imagine that being overlooked by many because the big story at that time was Casey going back to jail. The big debate here at that time was mostly about the how she was arrested and the way LE handled it.

If the protesters goal is to cause pressure in that home then it certainly appears they are succeeding at that one. I wonder what LE thinks of that??

LE is thrilled IMO. Their leaks are working to get the, crazies, fools, self proclaimed do gooders and crazed animals in a frenzy of hate without them even knowing the details of the case.

[MyrDawn]

I just laugh at myself a lot because of it. LMAO...LOL...ROTF...IIRC...I am young and sorta hip but I am not that hip...

I still can't believe more jail time for fraud charges. I just don't know what the point is...unless this is just a ruse...and the charges will be something entirely different...just putting the word out there that they will pick her up. Cuz she will likely be out in a day...unless the theft is of such a nature that it would carry a lot more than 10% of $3,000.

I'm hoping the next charge will be murder, and she can't bond out. I'm afraid that won't be for a while yet, though.

[Armchairdet]

I just laugh at myself a lot because of it. LMAO...LOL...ROTF...IIRC...I am young and sorta hip but I am not that hip...

I still can't believe more jail time for fraud charges. I just don't know what the point is...unless this is just a ruse...and the charges will be something entirely different...just putting the word out there that they will pick her up. Cuz she will likely be out in a day...unless the theft is of such a nature that it would carry a lot more than 10% of $3,000.

I don't know why arrest her. But if you add up all the charges, and she is convicted of all of them at some point, and is in jail then I guess they have all the time they need for a murder trial? Maybe? I don't really get it either. The only way the large amount bond would be revoked is if they were new charges for a crime she commited after being out on bond iiuc. (If I understand correctly) LOL

[Oregongal]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!

Welcome Windsmiles :seeya:
Don't be scared we are all generally friendly peeps here with one focus...Caylee.
There's a links thread that will give you mucho info.
Looking forward to getting to know you.

[st777jo]

Oops, I did it again.

Can someone please give the link for the webcam. TIA

[GrandmaGA]

You can call it anything you want.

What law enforcement calls it is what counts. And they don't call it stalking. :)


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7394244&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Sweetly]

I tell ya what the real travesty is in all this:

The Anthony's are rallied around Casey, believing her lies, inventing lies of their own, covering up potential evidence, yelling at anyone and everyone who tries to help or care about Caylee or excercise their own rights, providing their ruthless daughter with a warm place to sleep, food, hot showers, rides, bond monies, attornies, a soft place to land, physically attacking protestors that are completely fed up with this ridiculous nonsense,
all the while while their granddaughter, whom they claim to love, lies dead and rotting somewhere in this big old world, with no blanket, no pillow, no stuffed animals, no food, no one to comfort her, no one to stand up for her rights, no one in that family looking for her and no one reading her stories or brush her pretty hair!

THis is why we have protestors who are indignate, who do their best to follow the rules for the most part, who desire to vent their frustrations peacefully for the most part, desperately hoping to invoke some, any kind of helpful, HONEST, reasonable explanation to so many lies, so many cover-ups, so much nonsense, so much coddling!!!

And with each day that goes by, the Anthony's continue to blame and take their frustrations out on everyone else instead of turning INWARD and confronting themselves! Their attitudes, lies and actions are what has us all sitting on pins n needles because, NOTHING any of them have done IS HONEST, PRODUCTIVE, HELPFUL, REASONABLE, SENSIBLE or even REMOTELY POSSIBLE!

No wonder the public is acting like they are. It really isn't so hard to see why! I'm surprised that whole neighborhood isn't full to the brim of people SICK TO NO END with this family and all their insane antics!

It's when the public loses their indignity about a precious child being harmed, taken, harmed, killed,and left to rot that we should THEN all be worried about! Not about protestors who are indignified for just the opposite reason!!!!

[spiritwolf46]

Thanks for the links. I still plan to tread lightly.


Welcome to the board!!! :seeya:

Don't be scared. Please post away! The majority of the posters here are wonderful. You will get a lot of very useful info. here on the board. These ladies and gents are truly amazing at getting news and info. for debate on here quickly.

Again! Welcome!

:rose: For Caylee

[KKKKKKatie]

not in the gated community down the road from me (this one actually has a gate you need to pass your card through)
or in the one that we take our shortcut through.

:shrug:


imo/jmo

My Mom's place has gate....with 24 hour guard guy on duty but they still are only security people not real LE but I guess not all places are the same :shrug:

I don't know of any "gated" communities here in Cal that have their own offical police force but maybe they do in other states

[Adonna]

I just can not believe the Anthony's can not make Casey tell what she did with Caylee.
I wonder if they had not let her stay at the house...at least at night because that seems to be the only time she is there....
would she have been allowed to be out on bail?
I can not see anyone else letting her live with them.

I would have made her life so miserable she would have told or she would be back in jail.

George, Cindy and Lee could always turn it around and tell Casey "We know what you did to Caylee!"

[cassidy]

Cassidy...click on Arrest Coming?

http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html
Wow I wonder who else pressed charges?

[SavannahStar]

Thanks for the links. I still plan to tread lightly.


Welcome! :seeya:

[Shellberry]

can anyone just drive in a "gated community"

it depends if there is a gate or not, lol
the one we go through for the shortcut has no gate--the one down the block has a huge thick gate that you need to have a key card to get in.


imo/jmo

[joolz]

My first post ever - I'm so scared!
Could anyone point me to where I could find the vids of the bond hearing. I can't find them in links.
Thank you!

:seeya: Welcome!

[st777jo]

I tell ya what the real travesty is in all this:

The Anthony's are rallied around Casey, believing her lies, inventing lies of their own, covering up potential evidence, yelling at anyone and everyone who tries to help or care about Caylee or excercise their own rights, providing their ruthless daughter with a warm place to sleep, food, hot showers, rides, bond monies, attornies, a soft place to land, physically attacking protestors that are completely fed up with this ridiculous nonsense,
all the while while their granddaughter, whom they claim to love, lies dead and rotting somewhere in this big old world, with no blanket, no pillow, no stuffed animals, no food, no one to comfort her, no one to stand up for her rights, no one in that family looking for her and no one reading her stories or brush her pretty hair!

THis is why we have protestors who are indignate, who do their best to follow the rules for the most part, who desire to vent their frustrations peacefully for the most part, desperately hoping to invoke some, any kind of helpful, HONEST, reasonable explanation to so many lies, so many cover-ups, so much nonsense, so much coddling!!!

And with each day that goes by, the Anthony's continue to blame and take their frustrations out on everyone else instead of turning INWARD and confronting themselves! Their attitudes, lies and actions are what has us all sitting on pins n needles because, NOTHING any of them have done IS HONEST, PRODUCTIVE, HELPFUL, REASONABLE, SENSIBLE or even REMOTELY POSSIBLE!

No wonder the public is acting like they are. It really isn't so hard to see why! I'm surprised that whole neighborhood isn't full to the brim of people SICK TO NO END with this family and all their insane antics!

It's when the public loses their indignity about a precious child being harmed, taken, harmed, killed,and left to rot that we should THEN all be worried about! Not about protestors who are indignified for just the opposite reason!!!!


WOW!!! bestest post. Thanks

[True2Blues]

LE probably calls it a waste of their time and resources.

imo, of course.

So far they've called it their right.

[baywench]

I just can not believe the Anthony's can not make Casey tell what she did with Caylee.
I wonder if they had not let her stay at the house...at least at night because that seems to be the only time she is there....
would she have been allowed to be out on bail?
I can not see anyone else letting her live with them.

I would have made her life so miserable she would have told or she would be back in jail.
.
I never thought about that. There can't be many people who would want her. I would think that G & C would be grateful when she goes back to jail. Although I do think think they crave attention. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

LE probably calls it a waste of their time and resources.

imo, of course.

Not anymore of a waste of time they have spent with a so called mother of a missing child who has done nothing but lie. :seeya:

[GrandmaGA]

Wow I wonder who else pressed charges?

sources of course

[KKKKKKatie]

can anyone just drive in a "gated community"

not where I am from...you have to have a card or be on the "offical" list of vistors from each homeowner

[spiritwolf46]

I tell ya what the real travesty is in all this:

The Anthony's are rallied around Casey, believing her lies, inventing lies of their own, covering up potential evidence, yelling at anyone and everyone who tries to help or care about Caylee or excercise their own rights, providing their ruthless daughter with a warm place to sleep, food, hot showers, rides, bond monies, attornies, a soft place to land, physically attacking protestors that are completely fed up with this ridiculous nonsense,
all the while while their granddaughter, whom they claim to love, lies dead and rotting somewhere in this big old world, with no blanket, no pillow, no stuffed animals, no food, no one to comfort her, no one to stand up for her rights, no one in that family looking for her and no one reading her stories or brush her pretty hair!

THis is why we have protestors who are indignate, who do their best to follow the rules for the most part, who desire to vent their frustrations peacefully for the most part, desperately hoping to invoke some, any kind of helpful, HONEST, reasonable explanation to so many lies, so many cover-ups, so much nonsense, so much coddling!!!

And with each day that goes by, the Anthony's continue to blame and take their frustrations out on everyone else instead of turning INWARD and confronting themselves! Their attitudes, lies and actions are what has us all sitting on pins n needles because, NOTHING any of them have done IS HONEST, PRODUCTIVE, HELPFUL, REASONABLE, SENSIBLE or even REMOTELY POSSIBLE!

No wonder the public is acting like they are. It really isn't so hard to see why! I'm surprised that whole neighborhood isn't full to the brim of people SICK TO NO END with this family and all their insane antics!

It's when the public loses their indignity about a precious child being harmed, taken, harmed, killed,and left to rot that we should THEN all be worried about! Not about protestors who are indignified for just the opposite reason!!!!

Remarkable post! Thank you! :beer:

[GrandmaGA]

If Princess would stay home long enough, maybe her folks would get it out of her. As long as she can kill 6 hrs a day everyday w/ her atty out of the house, shes going to avoid a big chunk of time everyday.
I am sure she can hold her own against them on weekends.

My thought is I hope her apparently lenient case manager doesn't allow her to spend 30 hrs a week w/ Baez next week too.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7394244&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Kathlb]

Ha! That is too funny. The dog is exactly where the dog wants to be. With his mommy. And a bowl of water. Oh wait... no water. Lee took care of that when he broke the law.

IMO.

I do think that Lee should probably be VERY glad that her husband wasn't there just yet to pick her up and witnessed that destruction of his wife's property and throwing away their dog's water dish. :D

[True2Blues]

Ha! That is too funny. The dog is exactly where the dog wants to be. With his mommy. And a bowl of water. Oh wait... no water. Lee took care of that when he broke the law.

IMO.

That was a class act.

[Takotna]

Thanks for the links. I still plan to tread lightly.

Hi Windsmiles! I lurked for years before I got up the nerve to post! I'm still a newbie - the folks here are smart, insightful, comapssionate and helpful. You'll be just fine!:)

[SavannahStar]

Welcome...don't be scared. You'll be fine as long as you agree with my opinion....Just kidding.

:lol: Oh please, don't even joke about that. If she reads here long enough she'll definitely see that those with a minority opinion aren't always treated so "kindly."

[pebblepup]

Don't worry, Cindy turned the sprinklers on, so it probably cooled the Dog down - which makes the Dog smarter than the protester. ;)

What I don't get is why Cindy, Lee and George even give a rats nest WHO is doing WHAT in front of their house when that baby is still missing? It's no wonder those protestors are aiming their signs at the camera.....the Anthony's are probably watching it on their pc!

Honestly, if my house was closed up with the air on I could very easily avoid paying attention to what's going on in front of my home. Especially, if my child was missing! :mad:

[msjoni]

I understand and agree however why does the media have to be there 24/7. Quite frankly what's so interesting about watching Casey leave to go to Baez's office and come home from his office? :shrug:

It's there job.:shrug: I guess its the same reason why people slow down to see a car wreck. This society with 24 hour national news has changed the way life is.

[SavannahStar]

You're 100% correct, and you're only one of many who knows this to be true.

So I wonder if now TREE TREE will be bugged for about 40 posts for a link? :D

[joolz]

My Mom's place has gate....with 24 hour guard guy on duty but they still are only security people not real LE but I guess not all places are the same :shrug:

I don't know of any "gated" communities here in Cal that have their own offical police force but maybe they do in other states

There are a few near me in So. Cal that have their own private security forces, and they are all ex-LE, the real thing. Those places are $$$$ beyond belief - the homes are on acres and acres and some of them have their own helipads. Needless to say, I don't live in one of them.:D

[Chillin]

The public seems to think they can dictate a lot of things, and it's just not working in that direction for them.

kinda like you dictating that the protesters shouldnt be allowed their rights?

[jbellaj]

:D[QUOTE=impartial;12095791]I don't watch the web cam ... not because I am not curious, but because it's just a little too big brother for me.

Watching Casey come and go has no interest to me either. I also don't think she should be vilified for being out on bail. Many Horses' bail is $250,000 and she confessed to having her son in her trunk since May; and yet she her bail is half of what Casey's is.

I think LE thought if they pressured her enough, she would break. I don't see that happening at this point.

If she didn't break during that interrogation, I don't know what it would take ... heck, I was almost ready to confess just reading it. :eek:

Don't do that. We don't want to see the wrong one in jail.:D

[101Spots]

O/T, Sorta: What happened to the "quick-post" icon at the bottom right of the post (for no quote, just a post)?

They changed the dress, now we have to change shoes, too? I can't keep up.

[Chillin]

What I don't get is why Cindy, Lee and George even give a rats nest WHO is doing WHAT in front of their house when that baby is still missing? It's no wonder those protestors are aiming their signs at the camera.....the Anthony's are probably watching it on their pc!

Honestly, if my house was closed up with the air on I could very easily avoid paying attention to what's going on in front of my home. Especially, if my child was missing! :mad:
They are lovin' the attention. IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

There are a few near me in So. Cal that have their own private security forces, and they are all ex-LE, the real thing. Those places are $$$$ beyond belief - the homes are on acres and acres and some of them have their own helipads. Needless to say, I don't live in one of them.:D


but they are ex-LE so if there was something done that you wanted someone moved or arrested you would call the "real" LE correct?

[steffaroob4]

Wow I wonder who else pressed charges?

There was a story circulating that the greatgrandmother had monies taken, she called bank and bank had to put the money back, because no one but the nursing home was allowed to take money from that account. If that is true, the bank can very easily go after casey for that, if she is the one that took the money.

[baywench]

:lol: Oh please, don't even joke about that. If she reads here long enough she'll definitely see that those with a minority opinion aren't always treated so "kindly."

You're right about that SS....I actually shouldn't have said it even jokingly because I'm sure by the late thread it will be twisted into "Baywench dictates opinions to Newbie" LOL

[pebblepup]

Ha! That is too funny. The dog is exactly where the dog wants to be. With his mommy. And a bowl of water. Oh wait... no water. Lee took care of that when he broke the law.

IMO.

How do you know that's where the dog wants to be? And now without water he really doesn't belong there.

I'm not against the protesting whatsoever. What bothers me is when people use their babies and pets in that heat to prove a point. :shrug:

[Oregongal]

Wow I wonder who else pressed charges?

BofA and Target?
:shrug:

[day2day]

Based on nothing more than supposition.

But hey, don't let actual facts get in the way of those protesters, no way! - they don't seem to be the type to process logic very well.

Or the signs in the way of the Anthony's..im just sayin :)

[kakax]

They are hard core searching for Caylee's body...it is the final linch pin in their case. :rose: I just don't see what throwing her in the slammer over night will do...she hasn't talked or cracked. Not that I am impressed by her or anything but there is no NO Bail for petty theft and fraud. She will likely be bailed out in short order by Baez...or whomever...the next day. Ugghh....


I agree, more trouble than its worth. It's almost like they want to make her life miserable (I don't blame them). I want the next handcuffing to be on charges of murder. Let her turn herself in for the fraud charges and make it a huge ordeal when they get her for the big one.

[jbellaj]

not where I am from...you have to have a card or be on the "offical" list of vistors from each homeowner


I know you're right about that because I have visited plenty of people that live in gated communities. I wish I did. The Anthony's do not line in a gated community.

[True2Blues]

There is a thread for the Evening set up, since this one is over 1000 posts.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339781

[pebblepup]

They are lovin' the attention. IMO

......I agree!

[hamebone]

I do think that Lee should probably be VERY glad that her husband wasn't there just yet to pick her up and witnessed that destruction of his wife's property and throwing away their dog's water dish. :D

Its just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

[Chillin]

Based on nothing more than supposition.

But hey, don't let actual facts get in the way of those protesters, no way! - they don't seem to be the type to process logic very well.

The protesters have a RIGHT to be there. Seems you arent processing that very well.

[Chillin]

Its just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.

I agree. The Anthonys seem to have violent tempers.

[Armchairdet]

There was a story circulating that the greatgrandmother had monies taken, she called bank and bank had to put the money back, because no one but the nursing home was allowed to take money from that account. If that is true, the bank can very easily go after casey for that, if she is the one that took the money.

Now this is just a thought. But perhaps the nursing home as well can or even must press charges because they represent the elderly patient? So since they have the rights to the account, even if he did not want to press charges they would have to as his guardians? IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

I know you're right about that because I have visited plenty of people that live in gated communities. I wish I did. The Anthony's do not line in a gated community.

someone posted that they do :shrug:

[st777jo]

How do you know that's where the dog wants to be? And now without water he really doesn't belong there.

I'm not against the protesting whatsoever. What bothers me is when people use their babies and pets in that heat to prove a point. :shrug:


I think the pet sign was great.

[trich]

There was a story circulating that the greatgrandmother had monies taken, she called bank and bank had to put the money back, because no one but the nursing home was allowed to take money from that account. If that is true, the bank can very easily go after casey for that, if she is the one that took the money.

Cindy already is suppose to have paid that money back out of her 401k.
At least that is what we have been told.

[True2Blues]

I understand this position but on a practical level, it's just not working. There has been no forward movement that can be attributed to the protests that I'm aware of.


The protests aren't responsible for moving things forward. They are to protest something.

[impartial]

You had to throw in iiuc LOL...
My guess is that this is either a smokescreen or this is just them being outraged with Casey and doing what they can within the letter of the law that is available to them to inflict as much misery as they can. But apparently she just visits the jail library and reads all the time while she is in there. Oh well...


I think they are doing whatever they can to get her to fess up. They put out the leaks for Baez's sake before the immunity offer expired in hopes of Casey confessing. They are going to line up as many charges as they can in hopes of making a global deal in exchange for a confession.

It's not going to happen. She has dug in.

IMO

[Shellberry]

My Mom's place has gate....with 24 hour guard guy on duty but they still are only security people not real LE but I guess not all places are the same :shrug:

I don't know of any "gated" communities here in Cal that have their own offical police force but maybe they do in other states
I'll see what I can dig up.
I think I know the name of the one we drive through.

I wonder what the name of the anthonys is.
wonder if the 'rules' are online.



imo/jmo

[SavannahStar]

I understand this position but on a practical level, it's just not working. There has been no forward movement that can be attributed to the protests that I'm aware of.


And there ya have it.

And there won't be. Guarantee.

[jbellaj]

someone posted that they do :shrug:

I know they don't after being down there this weekend.

[Chillin]

When you can show me where I've said they don't have the Constitutional Right, get back to me, because you won't find it.

Then let it go and stop complaining about the protesters. They are allowed to be there same as Casey is allowed to be out on bail.

[KKKKKKatie]

I know they don't after being down there this weekend.

thanks bella! That takes care of who should know what the laws are at the Anthony's house then!

See you at the new thread :seeya:

[bcrmom]

Hi Windsmiles! I lurked for years before I got up the nerve to post! I'm still a newbie - the folks here are smart, insightful, compassionate and helpful. You'll be just fine!:)

Don't forget FUNNY! :D Some of these poster are hysterical. Just check out their sigs.

[Shellberry]

someone posted that they do :shrug:

lee said they do, and they have an hoa.
there are a LOT of gated communities down here-they are everywhere- I can count at least 20 just going up the 2 miles on 54 to get to walmart.

imo/jmo

[frances1]

:shrug: I missed it, too.

Crickets again.

[Chillin]

What does everyone think of the fact while Lee was whining about her being on his property how he chose to take the sign and dump in the neighbors trash can. The Anthonys think the world is theres it seems. If I had been the neighbor I'd of came out and said something.

[bchand]

Thanks for the links. I still plan to tread lightly.


Hi Windsmiles - welcome to the boards. Here's a pretty good link to the bond hearings

http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/caylee-anthony-courtroom-video-from-bond-hearing/

[Velouria]

LE probably calls it a waste of their time and resources.

imo, of course.

Like spending countless manhours tracking an imaginary nanny...

[spiritwolf46]

They are lovin' the attention. IMO

Yep!!! They sure do love the attention! Cindy could not just go inside the house without camera time today and then here come LEE! Good GAWD these people are something else!

:rose: ANTHONY'S!!! WHERE IS CAYLEE????

[steffaroob4]

Now this is just a thought. But perhaps the nursing home as well can or even must press charges because they represent the elderly patient? So since they have the rights to the account, even if he did not want to press charges they would have to as his guardians? IMO

I would think that the wife would be the guardian, but you may be correct, I sure hope one way or another they can get her on those charges, too.

[Chillin]

So the protest doesn't have a goal? :confused:

Yes, its for the people to voice their feelings.

[CinTN]

I have to say ,....

I do have moments,, At times (when she is not talking) I do feel sorry for Cindy,, she looks so tired, confused, and flat worn out, I look at her and think of my mom, ( no my mom is not tired worn out or confused or anything like her,, just close to the same age) and believe it or not at times i do feel sorry for her,,Yes she did not ask for any of this to happen,, I could see in the home vids and in photos that she does love that child, and I am sure she loves her own daughter, and has to be in a major denial, thinking , this is not happening,, this is not my life, my little girl could not have done this,, I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS....


THEN I SNAP OUT OF IT :punch: .. and think back to all that has happened and been said,,The lies,, the stories,, the inconsistencies .. and get mad and wonder HOW this could this have gotten this far,, how did they let it happen ..

Dont get me wrong I am not a CA/GA hater,, I just have a hard time just like everyone else making heads or tails of the whole situation. Trying to draw a conclusion from lies ,, but I just feel that there is more to the story than the A's are letting on,, and I am sure they have there reasons that we just cannot understand and never will.. I am trying my hardest to take everything with a grain of salt, as hard as it is ...I dont blame the A's for how they are,, as I see it "WE ARE A PRODUCT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT", we dont know how Cindy/George were brought up, we dont know if there were issues in their life growing up that made them the way they are, As I see it they are hanging on to whatever glimmer of hope they have and are hoping for the best outcome for their granddaughter/daughter....

Ok :read: chapter 1 done for now..lol
Just needed to get that off my chest,, if it made any sense?

[dvsone]

I want to know what that means too. I also want to know how do you get those lil smileys inside your post. Also, one more thing. Is there a link for the people who went to search? I was able to sneak a peak earlier and seen one of the searchers giving some details but I'd like to know if there's a thread showing who all searched and were their cost covered. I'm so proud of those people who took time to drive down there and make a difference.

the smileys should be beside the box you typed up your post in... to the right...

iirc... if i recall correctly....

and I dont know the third answer.

[GrandmaGA]

It's there job.:shrug: I guess its the same reason why people slow down to see a car wreck. This society with 24 hour national news has changed the way life is.

Then why don't they "do their job" at homes of other missing children? Does anyine really think Caylee is the only missing child in the country or even in Oralando?
:no:

[Chillin]

No thanks.

Its ok. I knew you couldnt. You cant bait if you let it go.

[kakax]

How do you know that's where the dog wants to be? And now without water he really doesn't belong there.

I'm not against the protesting whatsoever. What bothers me is when people use their babies and pets in that heat to prove a point. :shrug:

It is often said a dog's home is where his master is.

[Armchairdet]

How do you know that's where the dog wants to be? And now without water he really doesn't belong there.

I'm not against the protesting whatsoever. What bothers me is when people use their babies and pets in that heat to prove a point. :shrug:

To stay on topic, I went to the animal board and posted why the dog wanted to be there.

It is also a closing argument from a long ago court case.

Tissues needed.

[spiritwolf46]

What does everyone think of the fact while Lee was whining about her being on his property how he chose to take the sign and dump in the neighbors trash can. The Anthonys think the world is theres it seems. If I had been the neighbor I'd of came out and said something.

Oh so true! I would yell at him to GET OFF MY PROPERTY! Oh wait, THEY can go on others, just others cannot go on theirs.

Stupid me! hammer

[Acorn]

Ha! That is too funny. The dog is exactly where the dog wants to be. With his mommy. And a bowl of water. Oh wait... no water. Lee took care of that when he broke the law.

IMO.

Did you catch that line he was giving the lady about how the HOA prez could "enforce those things", trying to 'used car salesman' her off the lot? Man, those people are something else.

[GrandmaGA]

It's there job.:shrug: I guess its the same reason why people slow down to see a car wreck. This society with 24 hour national news has changed the way life is.

Then why don't they "do their job" at homes of other missing children? Does anyine really think Caylee is the only missing child in the country or even in Orlando?
:no:

[crymeariver2006]

So I wonder if now TREE TREE will be bugged for about 40 posts for a link? :D

Do YOU remember seeing protesters out there when Casey was in jail? When someone asks you for a link, don't you provide it? Or when you ask someone else, don't they usually provide it?

Or are we just counting requests for links tonight?

[True2Blues]

So the protest doesn't have a goal? :confused:


It's goal is to express to the Anthonys how they feel about their actions and inaction.

[st777jo]

What does everyone think of the fact while Lee was whining about her being on his property how he chose to take the sign and dump in the neighbors trash can. The Anthonys think the world is theres it seems. If I had been the neighbor I'd of came out and said something.

Its becoming "The Anthony's Law", do as I say, not as I do.

[nana6]

Poor TREE TREE...likely will be checking pm's all night. Missing the thread. Oh dear...

Hi, I have been gone last night and all day today. I could not wait to get back to you guys,. Where is Tree Tree? Did something happen? Any big news on Casey? Glad to be back here again =:rose: Prayers for our Caylee

[Carol25]

I found something interesting in the links thread. On page 2, post 52, the appears an order was once placed:

7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, ASSURED THE APPEARANCE OF THE DEFENDANT OR PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS.


It would be interesting to see if that order could be restored, considering the violence that has broken out during protests, George's charge of assault and possible charges on Lee.

[Chillin]

Then why don't they "do their job" at homes of other missing children? Does anyine really think Caylee is the only missing child in the country or even in Oralando?
:no:

Its their right to protest wherever they so choose..same could be said for you..why dont you spend all your time on other missing children and not this one..see how that works?

[kitty1182]

Like spending countless manhours tracking an imaginary nanny...

Remember, they are being watched..:D

[Sandy]

I don't agree with taking small children or dogs to prove our points!
They may get hurt & we are responsible for their safety & well-being.
Casey used her daughter Caylee & her foul lies & stealing to get back at her parents. She has no soul ,no feelings of love or of guilt. Caylee is dead & not coming back to earth. She is with the angels. I think Casey should be charged for murder & I do not think the parents who have enabled her,& are quite shallow & inhuman themselves , will stand up for Caylee & Justice. They will all make the best of it ,looking forward to the pleasures & luxuries the "Gravy Train" will bring.
Since I am human , sensitive & could not abide another hurting a child, aged parent or pet of mine, I feel strongly that Caylee,s abuse & death should be punished.That is just me . I think there should be some way of making sure that no more children are born to people who have no soul,like Casey.To err is human ,to forgive divine. The Anthonys feel that no one has erred. THEY ARE NOT IN NEED OF FORGIVENESS& CAYLEE WAS ONLY THERE FOR 3 YRS....THE GRAVY TRAIN WILL MAKE ALL WELL, ALL FORGOTTEN.:flamemad:

[steffaroob4]

Cindy already is suppose to have paid that money back out of her 401k.
At least that is what we have been told.

In the Rick stories, he stated, as i remember it, some of the money was returned because the bank account was setup a special way and so the bank covered some of it, Cindy covered the rest. There were 2 different accounts, one I guess was Greatgrandma's checking, the other the nursing home account. MOO

[crymeariver2006]

Did you catch that line he was giving the lady about how the HOA prez could "enforce those things", trying to 'used car salesman' her off the lot? Man, those people are something else.

And trying to explain that the police had no authority over their "private community". Like the big bad HOA was gonna come open up a can of whoop AZZ on her.

Then he tried to go all Billy Jack on the situation but instead walked away singing "I fought the sign and the sign won!"

[Sweetly]

I understand this position but on a practical level, it's just not working. There has been no forward movement that can be attributed to the protests that I'm aware of.


Ya and no "forward movement" by the Anthony's either; thus the protestors, who are within their rights to do so! So on a "practical level", what the Anthony's are NOT DOING and DOING is "just not working" either.

[bcrmom]

I have to say ,....

I do have moments,, At times (when she is not talking) I do feel sorry for Cindy,, she looks so tired, confused, and flat worn out, I look at her and think of my mom, ( no my mom is not tired worn out or confused or anything like her,, just close to the same age) and believe it or not at times i do feel sorry for her,,Yes she did not ask for any of this to happen,, I could see in the home vids and in photos that she does love that child, and I am sure she loves her own daughter, and has to be in a major denial, thinking , this is not happening,, this is not my life, my little girl could not have done this,, I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS....


THEN I SNAP OUT OF IT :punch: .. and think back to all that has happened and been said,,The lies,, the stories,, the inconsistencies .. and get mad and wonder HOW this could have happend,, how did they let it happen ..

Dont get me wrong I am not a CA/GA hater,, I just have a hard time just like everyone else making heads or tails of the whole situation. Trying to draw a conclusion from lies ,, but I just feel that there is more to the story than the A's are letting on,, and I am sure they have there reasons that we just cannot understand and never will.. I am trying my hardest to take everything with a grain of salt, as hard as it is ...I dont blame the A's for how they are,, as I see it "WE ARE A PRODUCT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT", we dont know how Cindy/George were brought up, we dont know if there were issues in their life growing up that made them the way they are, As I see it they are hanging on to whatever glimmer of hope they have and are hoping for the best outcome for their granddaughter/daughter....

Ok :read: chapter 1 done for now..lol
Just needed to get that off my chest,, if it made any sense?

Great Post CinTN.
I know how you feel.

Does it feel like there's something we're just missing? That when it finally comes out, we'll all go "A HA!" ? Something that will explain the actions of the whole family?

[Acorn]

What does everyone think of the fact while Lee was whining about her being on his property how he chose to take the sign and dump in the neighbors trash can. The Anthonys think the world is theres it seems. If I had been the neighbor I'd of came out and said something.

I'd guess that's trespassing and theft of services (using someone else's paid for trash can & service) where they live. I know it is where I live.

[bluwaters]

Bravo. It's just like the playground bully that torments a kid for months and then yells "he took the first swing" when the poor, tormented, soul retaliates.

They aren't helping Caylee, they are baiting the Anthony's.
My son was bullied in middle school because he is facially different. The bullies would pick, tease, and provoke him until he took the first swing and landed the first punch. Then he got the carp beat out of him because he doesn't know how to fight. He was suspended from school for fighting six times in two years.
Guess what? It is against the law to throw the first punch even if you are provoked! My son spent 2 years in anger management counseling learning to walk away and not loose his cool. He was tormented for that as well for being a coward. He learned that it is unacceptable to take the law into one's own hands. The tormentors can and will do anything they can to get a violent reaction. They can be made responsible for those actions if they break the law. His tormentors were always suspended as well for being bullies. My child learned to keep his cool. He learned that taunts cannot be met with violence unless your life is in danger and the action is in self defense.

The Anthony's need to learn to control their tempers. How is it that they have the time or energy to take on protesters? Aren't they busy finding Caylee? Why waste their time on the common rabble?
Surely the Anthony's have more important things to do than argue with people who are only exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

Where is Caylee?

[~jomomma~]

Aww thankies..
HERES Lee freakin out caught on tape..
http://www.wftv.com/video/17441792/index.html

oh my!!!!! :lol:

an then he goes and puts it in the neighbors garbage????

isn't THAT illegal???? :eek:

[GrandmaGA]

It's goal is to express to the Anthonys how they feel about their actions and inaction.

ok so the A's know how some crazies think now. What good does it do the "protesters" now except to make bigger fools out of themselves and get their mugs on 'TV? They should be ashamed of themselves IMO. Do onto others

[kakax]

Nancy Grace,

Ask Kobey:

If there were high levels of CH drug in the trunk of Casey`s car, would it of been possible to have flies alive and flying out when George and tow guy opened it?



I'll call and ask that question if you want...although I haven't had any luck in the past getting through.

[KatieKates]

Oh so true! I would yell at him to GET OFF MY PROPERTY! Oh wait, THEY can go on others, just others cannot go on theirs.

Stupid me! hammer

The neighbors did say something, go home and get out of our neighborhood. The protesters didn't listen to them either. So I guess it's everyone's right to ignore people when they tell them to stop disrupting the peace on their street.

This family is not being met with peaceful protest. They're met with screaming people who make sure they push their buttons by standing/sitting 2 inches from the property line. I'd like to see how the people who defend and condone the protest would fair under such circumstances.

[Chillin]

ok so the A's know how some crazies think now. What good does it do the "protesters" now except to make bigger fools out of themselves and get their mugs on 'TV? They should be ashamed of themselves IMO. Do onto others
I hope george and Lee are charged myself.

[bcrmom]

Nancy Grace,

Ask Kobey:

If there were high levels of CH drug in the trunk of Casey`s car, would it of been possible to have flies alive and flying out when George and tow guy opened it?

Respectfully shrunk... :)

Something else I want her to ask the Boy Wonder:

Last night he said that CH wouldn't appear in the bones or tissue of the deceased body because it rapidly evaporates.

Ohhhhh, Really??

Then how come it's at all possible for the air to be "saturated" with it weeeeeks after the CH would have had to be in there to have anything to do with Caylee's death?

Seems to me SOMEone would have had to use a large amount of CH just before LE came around sniffin' and taking samples.

[marshmallow]

Based on nothing more than supposition.

But hey, don't let actual facts get in the way of those protesters, no way! - they don't seem to be the type to process logic very well.

the only facts we should be going with is these:

A little girl is still missing
Casey, her own mother, knows all the details needed to find her dead or alive buttttttttt......
she's not in the mood to talk and hasn't been since it happened.

Those should be our first and last thoughts. The rest is static

[~jomomma~]

webcam check!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Katprint]

not where I am from...you have to have a card or be on the "official" list of vistors from each homeowner
It depends on whether the roads are public or private. This is a recurring issue, for example a wealthy neighborhood in Los Angeles was not permitted to gate its roads after the LA riots. http://www1.co.weber.ut.us/rs/surveyor/S-LS-Data/Survey-laws/cases/Citizens%20Against%20Gated%20Enclaves%20v.%20Whitl ey%20Heights%20Civic%20Assn.htm
Nevertheless, another exclusive Los Angeles neighborhood recently did the same thing (and also got sued for it.) http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_Feb_23/ai_n26771867

In a nutshell, if the roads are public then they can't be withdrawn from public use. If the roads are private then gates can be installed and access can be monitored.

I believe that the road in front of the Anthony family residence is a public roadway, thus it is not controlled by the HOA restrictions in the property deeds for the homesites. The HOA cannot legally impose conditions on the use of the public roadways. By way of illustration, the HOA can prohibit a homeowner from displaying a sign larger than a certain size on the homeowner's property, but cannot prohibit a protester from displaying a large sign in the public right-of-way (including the parking strips which are city property/easements.)

It was especially ironic that the woman with the dog was sitting SILENTLY before Lee came out and tried to destroy her sign. I know that the HOA has hired an attorney to seek an injunction, but no way is she going to get an injunction that prohibits silent protests on public property!

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[bcrmom]

They're taking the billboard away now.

[Wildrose]

well theres the big sign

[st777jo]

ok so the A's know how some crazies think now. What good does it do the "protesters" now except to make bigger fools out of themselves and get their mugs on 'TV? They should be ashamed of themselves IMO. Do onto others


IMO, the fools are in the house.

[Chillin]

webcam check!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.htmlHope they arent leaving that sign on the road.

[CinTN]

Great Post CinTN.
I know how you feel.

Does it feel like there's something we're just missing? That when it finally comes out, we'll all go "A HA!" ? Something that will explain the actions of the whole family?


Thank you ,, its something that has been running around in my head for a while now,, I hope it made sense ,, I edited it a few times before I posted..

Yes I do ,, unfortunately and I dont think it will be good,, I think its something steaming back to CA's childhood...
*PLEASE PEOPLE DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID*

[st777jo]

They're taking the billboard away now.


Could I have the webcam link, please. TIA

[lonetraveler]

If you are asking what I think you are asking...I do think LE is doing their job.
Though I do wish they would expect the Anthony's to follow the law. They have ticketed a few protestors have they not?
I see protestors outside the homes of child abusers, sex offenders, and murderers frequently. Though if you read my post you will see that protesting is not my way, nor do I specifically condone it.
Regarding the other families of missing children, I think most of them would give just about anything to have their child featured on the national news for one night. I have never seen another family of a missing child act as this one has, cursing at the puiblic, refusing to cooperate on terms they don't set, assaulting people, and mocking LE at every turn ( except when they call the police to THEIR rescue).
*I do not want to see anyone murdered or even hurt. I personally do not even want to see Casey physically harmed, I'm not an advocate of the Death Penalty.
aAways, JMO.

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If she is charged with murder and found guilty I do hope she gets life at hard labor.

[Acorn]

And trying to explain that the police had no authority over their "private community". Like the big bad HOA was gonna come open up a can of whoop AZZ on her.

Then he tried to go all Billy Jack on the situation but instead walked away singing "I fought the sign and the sign won!"

It was amazing to watch that whole act. How did he learn to buffalo like that? ;) I wonder what they said and did to Caylee if she refused to do something.

Then, it's like scraping off that final layer of paint to see what's underneath with Lee, finding he's the same as the rest of them. imo

[GrandmaGA]

Its their right to protest wherever they so choose..same could be said for you..why dont you spend all your time on other missing children and not this one..see how that works?

DUH, i am not causing a problem for anyone by posting on this board. BTW my time is spent here because I am handicapped and CAN'T do much more than to study "human" nature and how civilization has not come far from the old west when they strung em up and worried about the facts of the case later. If a mistake was made, oh well.

[jammies]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


looks like Lee, Cindy, the girl with the dog and some others.

[~jomomma~]

Could I have the webcam link, please. TIA
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[jammies]

The cam wasn't live.............must have been earlier.

[Chillin]

good lord they left that huge sign in the road..I hope someone complains.

[GrandmaGA]

good lord they left that huge sign in the road..I hope someone complains.

Waiting to see more action huh? How sad

[kakax]

I'm through on Nancy grace...phone is ringing...ringing...ringing

Going to ask - if chloroform levels were so high, how could flies have been alive when the trunk was opened at impound lot.

[frances1]

Ah! I posted something a night or two ago about how something may be legally right but not morally right. I think you're touching on that idea.


What a revolutionary idea! Never heard of it. So glad you came up with it, though, Savannah.

[kakax]

I'm through on Nancy grace...phone is ringing...ringing...ringing

Going to ask - if chloroform levels were so high, how could flies have been alive when the trunk was opened at impound lot.



Omg it just hung up on me.:cuss:

[Chillin]

Waiting to see more action huh? How sad
You know it!

[~jomomma~]

Omg it just hung up on me.:cuss:

what!!???? :cuss:

[Chillin]

I'm waiting to see someone hook to that sign and pull it off lmao

[day2day]

good lord they left that huge sign in the road..I hope someone complains.

Media blitz...:shrug:

[kakax]

what!!???? :cuss:

It rang and rang then went to a busy signal.:shrug:

[jammies]

You know it!



I want to see another arrest TONIGHT.

[Joan Weiss]

I do see willful, malicious, repeated following and harassment of persons as concerns the Anthony family. This law does not only apply to someone under 16 years of age. I think the Anthony family could sense fear of bodily injury or death.

I do not side with the Anthony's, but I do think people are being willfully malicious. I think they should frequently water their grass. I'd be out looking for fire ants to put on the lawn and sidewalk. I bet that would keep them away.

Lest we forget the Anthony's are human beings, U.S. Citizens and have rights just like anyone else.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomYou would put fire ants? That's pretty sick, imo.

[Joan Weiss]

I want to see another arrest TONIGHT.Any minute, according to NG.

[spiritwolf46]

The neighbors did say something, go home and get out of our neighborhood. The protesters didn't listen to them either. So I guess it's everyone's right to ignore people when they tell them to stop disrupting the peace on their street.

This family is not being met with peaceful protest. They're met with screaming people who make sure they push their buttons by standing/sitting 2 inches from the property line. I'd like to see how the people who defend and condone the protest would fair under such circumstances.


Most people would not be under these circumstances. The Anthony's have single handedly created this circus and what they get serves them right. THEY have put their faces in front of every camera possible. THEY have lied, twisted their own lies, spun story after story. MOST people would have been off their azzes looking for their granddaughter!

So? The young lady sitting peacefully with her dog was NOT a peaceful protest? Hmmmm......seems to me that she did not ONE wrong thing! People are completely through with their BS and have had enough.

I can think of SEVERAL people who have had missing children or grand children who have never had people in front of their homes because THEY handled it with respect. They used the media for who they were missing, NOT for themselves. They have lived the life of he77 as well, but have handled things with kindness and were thoughtful to those who tried to help them find who they were missing. FAR cry from the Anthony's.

So, with all due respect, don't quote me and ask me how I would fair under these circumstances. I would NEVER be in that circumstance. EVER! I would have WAY too much respect for those who would have helped me in any way possible.

RESPECT is a word that not one of this family members has ever had.

JMO!!!!!

[Acorn]

good lord they left that huge sign in the road..I hope someone complains.


now that's gotta be against the rules! imo

I thought he was asked to move that once before.

[st777jo]

I do see willful, malicious, repeated following and harassment of persons as concerns the Anthony family. This law does not only apply to someone under 16 years of age. I think the Anthony family could sense fear of bodily injury or death.

I do not side with the Anthony's, but I do think people are being willfully malicious. I think they should frequently water their grass. I'd be out looking for fire ants to put on the lawn and sidewalk. I bet that would keep them away.

Lest we forget the Anthony's are human beings, U.S. Citizens and have rights just like anyone else.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I think the Anthony family could sense fear of bodily injury or death.


Probably more than Caylee did,

[day2day]

NEW THREAD
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339781

[jammies]

But ONLY if that dang webcam is LIVE and actually WORKING!

[KatieKates]

Most people would not be under these circumstances. The Anthony's have single handedly created this circus and what they get serves them right. THEY have put their faces in front of every camera possible. THEY have lied, twisted their own lies, spun story after story. MOST people would have been off their azzes looking for their granddaughter!

So? The young lady sitting peacefully with her dog was NOT a peaceful protest? Hmmmm......seems to me that she did not ONE wrong thing! People are completely through with their BS and have had enough.

I can think of SEVERAL people who have had missing children or grand children who have never had people in front of their homes because THEY handled it with respect. They used the media for who they were missing, NOT for themselves. They have lived the life of he77 as well, but have handled things with kindness and were thoughtful to those who tried to help them find who they were missing. FAR cry from the Anthony's.

So, with all due respect, don't quote me and ask me how I would fair under these circumstances. I would NEVER be in that circumstance. EVER! I would have WAY too much respect for those who would have helped me in any way possible.

RESPECT is a word that not one of this family members has ever had.

JMO!!!!!

I have the right to ask. And I respectfully disagree that the dog lady was being peaceful, she was being spiteful. JMO :shrug:

[spiritwolf46]

Waiting to see more action huh? How sad

That is SO not what Chillin meant and you know it!

This post was uncalled for.

:rose: May you be found soon sweet baby.

[Chillin]

I want to see another arrest TONIGHT.

Me to and the sign towed away. I will sleep so well if shes arrested tonight.

[~jomomma~]

I want to see another arrest TONIGHT.

i would LOVE that!

[bcrmom]

I'm through on Nancy grace...phone is ringing...ringing...ringing

Going to ask - if chloroform levels were so high, how could flies have been alive when the trunk was opened at impound lot.

Cool. Ask Kobi how fast it evaporates and how long HUGE amounts could be saturating the air in the trunk, too. :) Pls

[Joan Weiss]

Exactly. And I bet not one of them has a job.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomI bet Casey killed her child, and I bet Cindy and George know it. imo

[OneUp]

Cindy already is suppose to have paid that money back out of her 401k.
At least that is what we have been told.Whether or not the monies are returned, and whether or not the Great Grandparents or the person with their power of attorney presses charges, IMO the State represented by DCF will. It is not a "theft" charge, but and
"abuse" charge. They do here in Ks. I've testified on those cases before for the handicapped and for foster kids.
JMO, on how it will be done in Florida. Every state has their own laws and procedures.

[Chillin]

I have the right to ask. And I respectfully disagree that the dog lady was being peaceful, she was being spiteful. JMO :shrug:
BUT..she broke no laws...Lee however, did.

[frances1]

Jesse's Grund's father wrote an amazing blog, I wish I still had the link; asking for mercy and empathy; indicating that if one hasn't shown mercy, they will not receive mercy.

I'm frankly appalled at the media, the protestors, and the manner in which everyone is so quick to jump on every little detail that could be interpreted negatively ... ie, when trash lady first reported that cards had been thrown out, most were so disgusted that the Anthony's would throw out Hallmark Cards from well-wishers ... then, it was revealed that only postcards from protestors were thrown out.

This case is a media circus, the media is there only because of ratings. If they were there because they cared so much, they would be in my neighborhood showing the 38 year old woman who gave birth at her home, put the baby in the dumpster, only to have her 11 year old daughter retrieve it.

An average of 2400 children go missing in the US every day. Now if someone wants to get behind a cause, that certainly is one to take on. Why isn't the media focusing that? Because it won't bring in the ratings.

Casey may or may not have murdered Caylee. One thing for sure, Caylee is missing, and is probably dead. Cindy, George and Lee have lost a family member, and are facing losing another one. How is screaming in front of their home going to change anything? It isn't.

IMO


Impartial, I don't agree with you about the Anthonys. I believe that there is a time or season for everything, and I believe that this is the time to hold the Anthony household's feet to the fire until Casey tells what happened to Caylee. God loves us, but he does not give us free passes until we confess and ask for forgiveness. Then it will be time for empathy and compassion. The rest of your post is spot on. I wish we all put forth the words and actions that would make a difference in the tragedies that happen every day.

[why-me]

Hi guys I finally caught up with you all. NG is tearing this attorney guy up!!

[KatieKates]

BUT..she broke no laws...Lee however, did.

Then Lee will be dealt with by LE.

[why-me]

going to break "please hold the sermon" LOL

[Chillin]

Then Lee will be dealt with by LE.

I sure hope so..so far George hasnt been dealt with for bully handling that old lady.