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tiny paw-prints
09-10-2008, 05:58 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez filed a motion Wednesday afternoon attempting to stop investigators from testing any more evidence in the case of missing girl Caylee Anthony.


Just wanted to show what Channel 9 had on their main page...didn't realize the new motion was to STOP investigators from testing more evidence. What in the heck does that mean???? How can they stop investigators from doing anything?


I think Baez motion is based upon Lorraine's findings in the Anthony's trash Yesterday!! Specifically, the cap.

I read that someone had washed their son's cap in the washing machine and it tore, just as depicted in the "trash" photo. It's common among people who carry an extra one in their car to turn a cap upside down to hold/contain smaller items such as; pens, bottles, perfume, lipstick. I think Cindy purposefully withheld that cap from LE after she washed it. Why? The cap may contain traces of chloroform, and I think Casey (probably Cindy too) are aware of this.

LE ought to check that cap for traces of Chloroform, IMO.

day2day
09-10-2008, 05:58 PM
The move comes after results already back on some tests revealed proof that Caylee Anthony's dead body had been in the trunk of her mother's car. Baez argues that he wants input on which labs are selected to perform any further tests.



Yep. Maybe Zanny the Nanny has a brother Manny who runs a lab.

Oh brother. This is ridiculous.

MOO

Manny...lol!! You are right its ridiculous!

msgatorslayer
09-10-2008, 05:58 PM
If I'm understanding this article correctly, this womans remains were still well enough, after being buried in a plastic container for 9 years, in the ground, for an ME to determine upper body trauma.

But her body probably wouldn't have been found if the gf of the killer didn't lead LE to it.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/9/10/381145.html?title=9-year-old+missing+woman+case+ends+with+murder+charge

Unperson1984
09-10-2008, 05:58 PM
:rolleyes: Good luck with that Jose!
I can't even imagine how one would hope to keep evidence from being tested...???...maybe he doesn't want more DNA taken for testing?
IDK:shrug:
If someone does get it would they take a second to explain it to the crowd?
Please and TY.

More often than not the defense is allowed to conduct their own tests on forensic evidence. However when the sample is small it may be all used by the tests run by LE, so he probably wants to be assured that questionable labs aren't used.

But as you pointed out so well...Good luck with that Jose!

;)

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 05:59 PM
So if I'm understanding this, JB must think they have a lot more evidence to test. Maybe "his girl" has told him the real story about how she misplaced little Caylee.


"I took Caylee to the park where Zanny the Nanny loaded her up and handed me a script on how to act. Then I did my boyfriends laundry, made him dinner and got myself all gussied up for the Hot Body Contest. Meanwhile I dodged Mom's questions, lied to all my friends, stole some of their checks, borrowed a shovel and rid the yard of the pesky bamboo, ordered some chloroform to clean my boyfriends house, ran out of gas, called a friend and then for some stupid reason, everybody freaked cause I couldn't locate my kid, but I know she's safe, so that's why I'm not stressed."

Yeah, yeah, that's it.............

Fallen Angel
09-10-2008, 05:59 PM
What the Fudge...............why in the world would they want to stop investigators from testing any more evidence in the case??? That's CRAZY :flamemad:

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:00 PM
Forget this fluff about motions and re-arresting Casey, I wanna know about the real story of the day -

Is the Saint Bernard still there?

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:01 PM
Nate was Casey's roommate in June/July.


Thank you!
Question though--how many roommates did she have then?
TIA

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:03 PM
Thanks, Sweety.
Tonight's show should be interesting. Here's what's on CNN's site.

Attorney for missing tot's grandparents goes one on one with Nancy Grace. Hear him tell their side of the story and answer all your questions. Headline News, tonight 8 & 10 ET.


Let's be honest, what can this attorney say worth hearing? Although I'll be watching NG anyway. He can't disclose attorney/client priviledge information - and most the public has heard the drivel the Anthony's spout. They are in deep denial. The fact that Casey has come up with the kidnap/script nonsense, ought to make it clear to the gp's what really happened.
Now that we've heard about the computer searches regarding Chloroform it leads me to believe the the cf was Casey's babysitter and its horrendouse to even consider. Its likely that she wanted to do overnighters with Tony, and Caylee was in the way, but she was penalizing the gp's because they were making her get a job and accept responsibility. Believe she used it on Caylee and put her in her car's trunk overnight. One night she didn't wake up the next day. Casey may have left her there a day or two, then dumped during midnight hours at Tony's in one of their dumpsters. Waited a couple days and left the car at Amscot. Stuff from that dumpster will never be located. I hope Caylee turns up one way or another.

♫Rock*Star♫
09-10-2008, 06:03 PM
Is it just me, or did certain poster just disappear and stop posting when the action started at the anthony's home this afternoon?? Seems like one or two people were here posting good conversations, debate, whatever then.....pfft...they were gone just before other posters started posting about LE being at the house, etc.

Just an observation.

:seeya:
I'm still here. Just doing some house work and reading when I can.

desmom
09-10-2008, 06:03 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez filed a motion Wednesday afternoon attempting to stop investigators from testing any more evidence in the case of missing girl Caylee Anthony.

Just wanted to show what Channel 9 had on their main page...didn't realize the new motion was to STOP investigators from testing more evidence. What in the heck does that mean???? How can they stop investigators from doing anything?

Can someone explain to me why JB would want to stop investigators from testing evidence that may help find Caylee?

I don't know if I should use this one :cuss: or this one :punch:

Fallen Angel
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Ok NO disrespect..............NeJame looks like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Forget this fluff about motions and re-arresting Casey, I wanna know about the real story of the day -

Is the Saint Bernard still there?


:mad: He better be....anyone have a picture of that sweet animal yet?

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Forget this fluff about motions and re-arresting Casey, I wanna know about the real story of the day -

Is the Saint Bernard still there?

4:53 PM ET - A man got the woman's sign out of the garbage and brought it back to her.

4:48 PM ET - Lee just took the sign of the woman with the dog. He took it one door down from his home and put it in the garbage.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html

luvinlife
09-10-2008, 06:05 PM
I think Baez motion is based upon Lorraine's findings in the Anthony's trash Yesterday!! Specifically, the cap.

I read that someone had washed their son's cap in the washing machine and it tore, just as depicted in the "trash" photo. It's common among people who carry an extra one in their car to turn a cap upside down to hold/contain smaller items such as; pens, bottles, perfume, lipstick. I think Cindy purposefully withheld that cap from LE after she washed it. Why? The cap may contain traces of chloroform, and I think Casey (probably Cindy too) are aware of this.

LE ought to check that cap for traces of Chloroform, IMO.


I have washed many many caps many many times and I have never had the cap destroyed or even ripped a little bit, and I have an old washer it snags lots of clothes. JMHO

♫Rock*Star♫
09-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Ok NO disrespect..............NeJame looks like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.

I feel bad for Joe Pesci. :(

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Can someone explain to me why JB would want to stop investigators from testing evidence that may help find Caylee?

I don't know if I should use this one :cuss: or this one :punch:

It might help convict Casey..justa thought! :shrug:

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:06 PM
Can someone explain to me why JB would want to stop investigators from testing evidence that may help find Caylee?

I don't know if I should use this one :cuss: or this one :punch:

Or want to stop investigators from testing evidence that could CLEAR CASEY?

Oh wait, what am I saying? :punch:

WinnieLeigh7
09-10-2008, 06:06 PM
What's this Motion about??

Fallen Angel
09-10-2008, 06:06 PM
I feel bad for Joe Pesci. :(
Ditto
I really feel bad for him..........

Everyday this case shocks me.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:07 PM
:mad: He better be....anyone have a picture of that sweet animal yet?

A little background on our friend Bernice...

3:31 PM ET - A woman from about 60 miles north of Orlando came and sat down with her 5 year-old St. Bernard Bernice in front of the Anthony home. She brought with her a sign taller than me that says "I wouldn't let my dog go missing for 1 month without looking." She said she wants to keep Casey's feet to the fire. She doesn't have kids but she's had Bernice for 4 years and said if her dog was missing she would go to shelters and the Humane Society to find her and it's hard to imagine that Casey would let her daughter go missing for a month without looking. Although it is raining, she has on a tank top and only a baseball cap to shield her from the rain. She wants to be there when Casey gets home, however Cindy Anthony did come out not long after she set up with a warning of trespassing. The woman didn't seem concerned about Cindy's warning or the raining saying "I figured Caylee is in the rain, I can handle it for a few hours." Her husband will be back to pick her up when he gets off work.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html

Carol25
09-10-2008, 06:07 PM
If he is a public defender in taking her case usually they are allowed a certain amount (very small amount) to conduct their own testing. But it is so limited that they have to really prioritize what is most important.
Even if he's acting as a PD, I would believe (IMO) that would be out the window once they set up a "Defense Fund." So is he working for just what he gets out of this fund?

As for asking that the evidence to be preserved, I think that's a non issue anyway. Evidence is always preserved, I think.

He has a right to do his own forensics and many Def attorneys would do this. But would it open them up to disclosing their findings in discovery? It would be a shame if it just confirmed LE and their forensics test, now wouldn't it? And I bet it would. LE is taking their time and making sure NO mistakes will take place.

Spend that fund, Baez...less for you! :)

FrankieBones1
09-10-2008, 06:08 PM
It wasn't a bus full of Alzheimer patients. It was a bus load of senior citizens from an Old Age home, according to the news that is live right now. The folks wanted to go on that tour because, "That's where the action is".

Some lady had a sign drawn up that depicts Casey and Cindy with a shovel, high fiving each other over a grave.

A reporter says that Lee drove Casey to Baez's office today and picked her up later to take her home.

Same reporter talked to Cindy about the million dollar offer for Casey's story. Cindy says those offers have been going through Baez's office and not through her and George.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:08 PM
4:53 PM ET - A man got the woman's sign out of the garbage and brought it back to her.

4:48 PM ET - Lee just took the sign of the woman with the dog. He took it one door down from his home and put it in the garbage.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html

Man, Lee is acting like a pure-T A$$ isn't he?

(But it goes to show you that none of the Anthony's are opposed to putting stuff in other people's garbage cans (or dumpsters).

FrankieBones1
09-10-2008, 06:10 PM
What's this Motion about??The defense lawyer wants the evidence preserved.

Kathlb
09-10-2008, 06:10 PM
4:53 PM ET - A man got the woman's sign out of the garbage and brought it back to her.

4:48 PM ET - Lee just took the sign of the woman with the dog. He took it one door down from his home and put it in the garbage.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html


This is starting to sound like the 3 Stooges. Don't the Anthony's know where the front door is to enter their house and stay there and ignore the quiet protesters?? Good grief.

I will be watching NG tonight to see what sort of questions she throws at the new lawyer. I really don't know if she will hard ball him or treat him with kid gloves. I'm thinking since it's not the Anythonys she may play hard ball. We'll see.

KathR
09-10-2008, 06:12 PM
Thank you!
Question though--how many roommates did she have then?
TIA

Two. Click on that link. He is introduced as roommate.

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:12 PM
I bet g & c will really stay in the house now since they have lawyers. I know ga hates he shoved those people the other day. I wish they would get out and help look for caylee jmho:rose::rose:

They are too busy trying to raise money and enhance their lifestyle to which they wish to become accustomed. I find it reprehensible that NaJame is out acting as PR person for this family. We know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Cindy will one day go to her grave, believing the innocence of her wayward, imho, daughter. I believe Cindy will continue the rest of her life as an enabler. I just wish they would stay off tv and that NO ONE will contribute to them or their alleged defense fund. I guess Casey needs to do more shopping, the $45 g's from her family hasn't improved her lifestyle yet.

st777jo
09-10-2008, 06:13 PM
anyone have a link to webcam? Lost mine. TIA

♫Rock*Star♫
09-10-2008, 06:13 PM
JB must be nuttier than fruitcake at Christmas time if he thinks his motion won't be denied. For anyone planning on giving money to Casey's defense fund, please reconsider. Give it to the Human Fund. Money for people. :D

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:14 PM
This is starting to sound like the 3 Stooges. Don't the Anthony's know where the front door is to enter their house and stay there and ignore the quiet protesters?? Good grief.

I will be watching NG tonight to see what sort of questions she throws at the new lawyer. I really don't know if she will hard ball him or treat him with kid gloves. I'm thinking since it's not the Anythonys she may play hard ball. We'll see.


I gotta tell you, this so called "peaceful protest" looks like a complete invasion of privacy to me. People shouting at the Anthony's, holding signs, having little children holding signs, showing up with 150 pound dogs.

I mean really......this stretches the bounds of peaceful by a long shot IMO

Carol25
09-10-2008, 06:14 PM
It wasn't a bus full of Alzheimer patients. It was a bus load of senior citizens from an Old Age home, according to the news that is live right now. The folks wanted to go on that tour because, "That's where the action is".

Some lady had a sign drawn up that depicts Casey and Cindy with a shovel, high fiving each other over a grave.

A reporter says that Lee drove Casey to Baez's office today and picked her up later to take her home.

Same reporter talked to Cindy about the million dollar offer for Casey's story. Cindy says those offers have been going through Baez's office and not through her and George.
Thanks for the correction, Frankie! The other article reported they were other Alzheimer patients. Media!

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:14 PM
Man, Lee is acting like a pure-T A$$ isn't he?

(But it goes to show you that none of the Anthony's are opposed to putting stuff in other people's garbage cans (or dumpsters).

Sad isn't it. I guess the sign was hittin pretty close to home. Everyone in that family is violent. jmo

George and Lee..it is NOT alright to put your hands on WOMEN (or their signs)..:no:

jmo

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:14 PM
New Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

http://www.wesh.com/news/17438472/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A news motion was filed on Wednesday in the case for missing toddler Caylee Anthony.

The motion has to do with the defense requesting that the state's forensic evidence be preserved.

Meanwhile, a source with the Orange County Sheriff's Department said that they are expecting to file some new check fraud-related charges against mother Casey Anthony within the next few days.


Kakax

Does the forensic evidence that LE has had or sampled or whatever have anything to do with the current defense of Casey Anthony? Why is what's his name asking for evidence he doesn't know is going to be used against his client?

WinnieLeigh7
09-10-2008, 06:15 PM
The defense lawyer wants the evidence preserved.

But what does that mean??

Preserve doesn't equal stop, correct??


I would think this has to do with kinda the attitude to "Save it"...

Probably save it so that we can have our own test run


:shrug:

beemeup
09-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Aww..I am so happy you found him!! I can only imagine how sad your kids were !! My Dad bought me a cocker when i was just a little girl...i had him all my life..moved to the country and he ran away ...i searched for hours in the snow for him. He finally came draggin in bout dark (he was scared to death of the dark) lol!
He lived 17 years and knew all of my secrets!

Freeway :rose:
Barn.. :rose: And the many others of us out there who have searched endlessly for a loved one who was part of our family. Canine.. Thanks for sharing your story. Kinda hard to wrap your head around not looking for a child. Yep we had ole freeway for 16 yrs. total and ole Levi the cat for 18-we were truly blessed as were our children. Were there when we had to put them down and held them thru the process. As i did for my Mom and Dad when they died. Thats what folk do for family. I am glad your dog came home. It's always the not knowing that kills ya.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Kakax

Does the forensic evidence that LE has had or sampled or whatever have anything to do with the current defense of Casey Anthony? Why is what's his name asking for evidence he doesn't know is going to be used against his client?



Good question! You got me :shrug:

tiny paw-prints
09-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Can someone explain to me why JB would want to stop investigators from testing evidence that may help find Caylee?

I don't know if I should use this one :cuss: or this one :punch:

Do you think it's just a coincidence that his motion was filed less than 24hrs after Lorraine picked through the Anthony trash? Did Casey tell Baez something specific about that baseball cap? Was it in the car before Cindy washed it? The photo of the cap found in the trash was obviously torn.

The cap was not torn in the photo where Annie/Ann/Anna is wearing it while in the car with Casey and Caylee. Also, I think the bright green t-shirt that Casey is wearing might be one that she purchased at Target. IIRC, she purchased 3-4 brightly colored t-shirts. Maybe she was wearing that cap on the day she made the purchase at Target?

Fallen Angel
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
i'm watching this video with JeName and he's a very smart man but just like a suspected he's throwing Casey under the bus ......LOL

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
Sad isn't it. I guess the sign was hittin pretty close to home. Everyone in that family is violent. jmo

George and Lee..it is NOT alright to put your hands on WOMEN (or their signs)..:no:

jmo

I don't think it's alright for those people to be there with their lawn chairs, kids, signs and dogs.

This whole thing is a travesty

WillowInFlight
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
Sad isn't it. I guess the sign was hittin pretty close to home. Everyone in that family is violent. jmo

George and Lee..it is NOT alright to put your hands on WOMEN (or their signs)..:no:

jmo

What does the sign say? I can barely make it out.

trich
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
Forget this fluff about motions and re-arresting Casey, I wanna know about the real story of the day -

Is the Saint Bernard still there?



Me too!
what happened at the house this afternoon.

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:16 PM
This is starting to sound like the 3 Stooges. Don't the Anthony's know where the front door is to enter their house and stay there and ignore the quiet protesters?? Good grief.

I will be watching NG tonight to see what sort of questions she throws at the new lawyer. I really don't know if she will hard ball him or treat him with kid gloves. I'm thinking since it's not the Anythonys she may play hard ball. We'll see.

It really is that simple. But they won't. They can't. Oh Ms. Nancy better be rough on him or im gonna be mad!!

always jmo

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:17 PM
But what does that mean??

Preserve doesn't equal stop, correct??


I would think this has to do with kinda the attitude to "Save it"...

Probably save it so that we can have our own test run


:shrug:



One news agency had it as preserved...the other had it as stopped.

Casey's Attorney Files Motion To Block Testing Of More Evidence
http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Motion Filed To Preserve Evidence In Anthony Case
http://www.wesh.com/index.html

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:18 PM
A little background on our friend Bernice...

3:31 PM ET - A woman from about 60 miles north of Orlando came and sat down with her 5 year-old St. Bernard Bernice in front of the Anthony home. She brought with her a sign taller than me that says "I wouldn't let my dog go missing for 1 month without looking." She said she wants to keep Casey's feet to the fire. She doesn't have kids but she's had Bernice for 4 years and said if her dog was missing she would go to shelters and the Humane Society to find her and it's hard to imagine that Casey would let her daughter go missing for a month without looking. Although it is raining, she has on a tank top and only a baseball cap to shield her from the rain. She wants to be there when Casey gets home, however Cindy Anthony did come out not long after she set up with a warning of trespassing. The woman didn't seem concerned about Cindy's warning or the raining saying "I figured Caylee is in the rain, I can handle it for a few hours." Her husband will be back to pick her up when he gets off work.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html

I *heart* Bernice and her owner too!

WinnieLeigh7
09-10-2008, 06:19 PM
One news agency had it as preserved...the other had it as stopped.

Casey's Attorney Files Motion To Block Testing Of More Evidence
http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Motion Filed To Preserve Evidence In Anthony Case
http://www.wesh.com/index.html


Oh wow


Okay...THANKS :)


Shoot, gotta run.

Post Links for Updates :) (I never will get caught up on past discussions)

OneUp
09-10-2008, 06:19 PM
More often than not the defense is allowed to conduct their own tests on forensic evidence. However when the sample is small it may be all used by the tests run by LE, so he probably wants to be assured that questionable labs aren't used.

But as you pointed out so well...Good luck with that Jose!

;)So he is trying to halt testing on the specimens so there is some matter left for his team to have tested? Correct?
TY for replying!

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:19 PM
Well I guess there really isn't any real news going on today is there? I wish something would break soon. JMO:read:

Acorn
09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
Sad isn't it. I guess the sign was hittin pretty close to home. Everyone in that family is violent. jmo

George and Lee..it is NOT alright to put your hands on WOMEN (or their signs)..:no:

jmo

I wonder if that would be considered strong arm robbery to yank someone's sign from them like that.

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
What does the sign say? I can barely make it out.

Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
A little background on our friend Bernice...

3:31 PM ET - A woman from about 60 miles north of Orlando came and sat down with her 5 year-old St. Bernard Bernice in front of the Anthony home. She brought with her a sign taller than me that says "I wouldn't let my dog go missing for 1 month without looking." She said she wants to keep Casey's feet to the fire. She doesn't have kids but she's had Bernice for 4 years and said if her dog was missing she would go to shelters and the Humane Society to find her and it's hard to imagine that Casey would let her daughter go missing for a month without looking. Although it is raining, she has on a tank top and only a baseball cap to shield her from the rain. She wants to be there when Casey gets home, however Cindy Anthony did come out not long after she set up with a warning of trespassing. The woman didn't seem concerned about Cindy's warning or the raining saying "I figured Caylee is in the rain, I can handle it for a few hours." Her husband will be back to pick her up when he gets off work.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html



Wow. I love this lady! (and Bernice) :rose:

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
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Most grieving grandparents also don't have a lynch mob outside their home, yelling "baby killer" either.

imo
Hmm..well IF they didn't want to hear those things. They might could have left her arse in jail where she belongs. JMO
__________________________________________________ ___

That argument doesn't hold water based on the fact that when Casey was in jail, the protesters were still behaving foolishly.

Please provide a link to show where any protesters arrived prior to Casey being bonded out by Leonard Padilla & Co.

TIA

KathR
09-10-2008, 06:21 PM
I gotta tell you, this so called "peaceful protest" looks like a complete invasion of privacy to me. People shouting at the Anthony's, holding signs, having little children holding signs, showing up with 150 pound dogs.

I mean really......this stretches the bounds of peaceful by a long shot IMO

How big a sign are you allowed to post on a slim strip of sidewalk? Don't you need a permit to hold a protest in Fla? I'm pretty sure you do in NY. Walking by carrying a sign is one thing but marching back and forth or planting the sign seems to be obstructing the public as well as harassing the Anthonys.

I pity them. I might cling to every thread of hope if my loved one were missing and another was accused of a horrid crime. It's a lot easier for them to believe Casey's lies than for us. We aren't facing the same loss they are. And please don't tell me we are. If you think the public feels the same grief they are facing, you have never experienced grief.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:21 PM
I *heart* Bernice and her owner too!

My favorite quote..

The woman didn't seem concerned about Cindy's warning or the raining saying "I figured Caylee is in the rain, I can handle it for a few hours."

WillowInFlight
09-10-2008, 06:21 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm
Oh wow, thanks for the info.

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:22 PM
hearing weird things about neverlosehopefoundation.org...i sent them an email asking if i contributed, would it go towards casey's defense...they haven't replied....

What a clever way that would be to amass $ for CDF without the donor suspecting the true intention of the donation. People out to refrain from donating $ towards anything for the Anthonys, or Casey even. If she can't be honest about where Caylee is let her rot in jail. This has become about what the Anthonys 'want'. Well, CAYLEE WANTS TO COME HOME.

msgatorslayer
09-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

:eek:

hammer This case is such a freak show!!!

st777jo
09-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Anyone have a link to the webcam, please.

SoggyBayou
09-10-2008, 06:22 PM
What does the sign say? I can barely make it out.

Me too!
what happened at the house this afternoon.

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2008/0910/17440872.200k.asx

Here is the vid report from Local 6 Orlando.
Or
http://www.local6.com/video/index.html
and choose 'Woman with dog.....'

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm



:eek: I gotta check and see if Channel 6 does live on the internet like fox.

deep*fear
09-10-2008, 06:23 PM
I don't think it's alright for those people to be there with their lawn chairs, kids, signs and dogs.

This whole thing is a travesty

First amendment rights. They belong there more than Casey deserves to be at home.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:24 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html


Video of woman with Bernice.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:24 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

Cindy turned on the sprinklers?

Lee broke the sign in half?

I cannot stand these people. I hope everybody in Orange County brings their dogs out tonight.

(Who knows, maybe someone owns a cadaver dog that'll chase down another scent?)

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:24 PM
:eek:

hammer This case is such a freak show!!!

Shame the dog didn't bite his sorry arse. And doesn't he have a j-o-b?

sighs...jmo

trich
09-10-2008, 06:24 PM
I *heart* Bernice and her owner too!




Thanks for the info!
I lover Bernice and her owner too!

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:24 PM
I just listened to Nejame's interview. How dare he compare the Anthony's to VN MIA's...this mkes me very:flamemad:. There is NO WAY he can compare the 2. I resent this very much and I hope to hear from that VA on this. They should be outraged by this.:no: JMHO

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:25 PM
:eek:

hammer This case is such a freak show!!!


I so agree and feel so sorry for the neighbors of the Anthony's, the dogs sitting in sprinklers, the toddlers carrying "baby killer" signs, and for little Caylee. God rest her soul, in my humble opinion

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:25 PM
WOW that front part of the A's lawn is getting pretty well trampled,, looking yuckie

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I just went thru the thread,, I cannot believe that Lee did that,, well I take it back ,, yes I can ,, lol ,, 1 question,, did he take it from her in front of the LE? By reading the transcript it sounds like he did...
I am glad she got it back .. Was it a random guy that went and got it for her or was it the owner of the garage that he put it in ..

And its easy to see the nuts dont fall far from the trees in this fam damnly

:biggrin:

Laurieann
09-10-2008, 06:25 PM
Ok NO disrespect..............NeJame looks like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.


LOL, I told my sister today I thought he looked like a really old Cory Feldman!

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09-10-2008, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ?WudScoobyDo View Post
Most grieving grandparents also don't have a lynch mob outside their home, yelling "baby killer" either.

imo
Hmm..well IF they didn't want to hear those things. They might could have left her arse in jail where she belongs. JMO
__________________________________________________ ___

That argument doesn't hold water based on the fact that when Casey was in jail, the protesters were still behaving foolishly.

I see you posted this as fact. Do you have a link to back it up? I don't recall any protesters in front of the house while Casey was in jail. tia

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:26 PM
Picture of the St. Bernard
http://www.local6.com/index.html

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:26 PM
LOL! That was hallarious!! Real "seasoned" attorney, huh? NOT! HA!


But I be he is "coveted."

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
That sentence about being in the rain just about broke my heart. :(



Ditto ... :patriot:

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Oh wow, thanks for the info.

Would you please post the link for the 6pm news for me? TIA

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
That sentence about being in the rain just about broke my heart. :(

I know. Perfect strangers care more about Caylee than her own gun-totin', water sprayin', sign tearin' family does.

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
First amendment rights. They belong there more than Casey deserves to be at home.


I'm aware of their rights. But in my opinion it is not a peaceful demonstration when they are screaming "baby killer", perching dogs in sprinklers and keeping the neighbors from existing normally.

It's fundamentally wrong.

If Casey belongs in jail the Prosecution better file some charges.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
WOW that front part of the A's lawn is getting pretty well trampled,, looking yuckie

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I just went thru the thread,, I cannot believe that Lee did that,, well I take it back ,, yes I can ,, lol ,, 1 question,, did he take it from her in front of the LE? By reading the transcript it sounds like he did...
I am glad she got it back .. Was it a random guy that went and got it for her or was it the owner of the garage that he put it in ..

And its easy to see the nuts dont fall far from the trees in this fam damnly

:biggrin:



He took the dog bowl too and threw it in the trash :eek:

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:27 PM
webcam live

joolz
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Please provide a link to show where any protesters arrived prior to Casey being bonded out by Leonard Padilla & Co.

TIA

I don't remember any protesters being there before Casey returned home. :shrug:

WillowInFlight
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Anyone have a link to the webcam, please.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

deep*fear
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

Well Lee just made my list - he took the dog's water bowl? Hmmm, one sign of being a sociopath is animal cruelty.

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
IT can be your opinion, but the fact is, that's PRECISELY the demographic that is targeted by that show, and it's precisely the type of demographics that the marketers for that show tell advertisers are watching that show.

If you want to tell what a show is marketed for, watch the ads while the show's on, and you'll quickly discover who it's aimed at.

That show is aimed at middle aged women who lean liberal and slightly conservative, and who have feminist tendencies. Likewise, the Glenn Beck show was tilted towards conservative males from a generation younger.

It's not my fault that they're pandering. That's , like I said, something I've grown to dislike about CNN as of late with regards to their Headline news brand. I liked it better when it was straight news.

Do you have a link that verifies that information or was it just your opinion?

beemeup
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
I don't think it's alright for those people to be there with their lawn chairs, kids, signs and dogs.

This whole thing is a travesty

You may not like it but it is a right to protest in peace. It is a right of your country and mine. In MOO they created the travesty.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Shame the dog didn't bite his sorry arse. And doesn't he have a j-o-b?

sighs...jmo

Yeah, apparently his new job is Driving Miss Crazy.

deep*fear
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Please provide a link to show where any protesters arrived prior to Casey being bonded out by Leonard Padilla & Co.

TIA

Hope you're not holding your breath.

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
WOW that front part of the A's lawn is getting pretty well trampled,, looking yuckie

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I just went thru the thread,, I cannot believe that Lee did that,, well I take it back ,, yes I can ,, lol ,, 1 question,, did he take it from her in front of the LE? By reading the transcript it sounds like he did...
I am glad she got it back .. Was it a random guy that went and got it for her or was it the owner of the garage that he put it in ..

And its easy to see the nuts dont fall far from the trees in this fam damnly

:biggrin:

I thought that Lee was the only one in that house that didn't have a temper. I guess I was wrong about that.:shrug:

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Ok NO disrespect..............NeJame looks like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.

* in my best NY accent *
"Yurhoner ,, Da Tow Yoots"

LOVE THAT MOVIE !!!

ok sorry O/T here.. :no:

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:30 PM
He took the dog bowl too and threw it in the trash :eek:

I know he did. Cruely to animals -charge for lee. jmo

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Frankie:
Does you (or anyone, just jump on in) know WHO Nate is? He isn't Clint is he? He made me cry with a few sentences.

IMHO, it was Clint. His speech pattern seemed like that of Clint from GVS's interviews. Could be wrong, but that was my impression.

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Yeah, apparently his new job is Driving Miss Crazy.

:lol: THANKS just shot coffee out my nose,,LMAO :lol:

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:31 PM
You may not like it but it is a right to protest in peace. It is a right of your country and mine. In MOO they created the travesty.

Protest in peace does not equal 1. screaming "baby killer"
2. blocking traffic
3. fighting in the streets
4. perching dogs in sprinklers

I mean c'mon...

desmom
09-10-2008, 06:31 PM
I read ALOT. I have been reading tru-crime and murder mysteries for over 25 years. Ever since the "script to follow" scenario came out, it keeps nagging at me.

I know I have read a book that included a "script to follow". I have googled it every which way I can imagine. I have talked to friends who read the same type of book and they agree, the "script to follow" is familiar.

Did anyone else get that I know this story feeling?

WillowInFlight
09-10-2008, 06:31 PM
I thought that Lee was the only one in that house that didn't have a temper. I guess I was wrong about that.:shrug:

I can only imagine what it must be like behind that front door.

martha
09-10-2008, 06:32 PM
I see Lee is showing his true side. I hope they have him in court too. Does the men in this family not know how to treat ladys? My son is 49 years old and if he did that to a woman he would be in big trouble. If le told her she did not have to move then lee should have not bothered her. cindy showed how silly she is to turn on the sprinklers. what is wrong with this bunch?jmho:rose:

Kathlb
09-10-2008, 06:32 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm


Okay, Lee stepped over the line here. The police said it's fine and he actually not only took her sign but her dog's bowl and broke and threw them away? Destroying someone else's property on the dog bowl for sure. I think they are going waaaaay over the line now. It's so simple to stay inside and ignore. I guess it's working. They can't stop themselves from reacting and now both he and George have done something that could get them in trouble. Especially since the LE were called and said she is fine where she is sitting quietly. JMHO

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:32 PM
yeah, apparently his new job is driving miss crazy.



quote of the day!!

Rebel Rouzer
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Please provide a link to show where any protesters arrived prior to Casey being bonded out by Leonard Padilla & Co.

TIA

I don't ever remember that happening. Good thing you asked for a link. i don't think one exists but we could be wrong.

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
I thought that Lee was the only one in that house that didn't have a temper. I guess I was wrong about that.:shrug:

Everyone has their limits. Imagine what Lee and the grandparents have been through in their front yard the last few days.

Their only hope to find Caylee is by supporting Casey. That's their only hope. They don't deserve this.

Casey does. They don't

emanondeeni
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
ITA, I like knowing she is in jail too. Better than knowing she's going on her daily field trips to Casey Camp.

But I'm getting really tired of her not staying there. I bet a bond company is already working on her bond and she hasn't even been arrested, yet.hammer

After your third bond I believe you're eligible for the pre-paid bond plan.

Acorn
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
I know he did. Cruely to animals -charge for lee. jmo

Robbery is what I'm thinking. Did she say if she's going to make a report?

spiritwolf46
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I went to this a few times and it seems frozen.

Anyone have another link? TIA!!! :seeya:

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:34 PM
I just heard on headline news that the grandparents lawyer is going to be on ng tonight talking about how they are victims.


The thought of the gp's as VICTIMS makes me want to barf. Caylee is the victim, the gp's are the enablers, and their wayward daughter the likely perpetrator of the likely crime. We know for sure she's a neglectful parent.

Rebel Rouzer
09-10-2008, 06:34 PM
Yeah, apparently his new job is Driving Miss Crazy.

:lol: You are too good. great post

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:34 PM
He took the dog bowl too and threw it in the trash :eek:


If anybody was holding any glimmer of hope that Lee was gonna be a hero in all of this.....

That ought to knock you back into reality.

:mad:

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:35 PM
But what does that mean??

Preserve doesn't equal stop, correct??


I would think this has to do with kinda the attitude to "Save it"...

Probably save it so that we can have our own test run


:shrug:I'm not sure about FLA trial laws, but I recall in other trials that the evidence samples have to be divided so that the defense can do their own tests, if they wish. If that's true in FLA, why is Baez making an issue of it? imo

Laurieann
09-10-2008, 06:35 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

It that legal? It's her personal property isn't it? He can't just take it away from her and distroy it can he?

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:35 PM
I can only imagine what it must be like behind that front door.

Me too, I wouldn't want to be in that house for anything...and if I was I would have to :punch: but then I would be charged with assult.

OneUp
09-10-2008, 06:35 PM
I'm aware of their rights. But in my opinion it is not a peaceful demonstration when they are screaming "baby killer", perching dogs in sprinklers and keeping the neighbors from existing normally.

It's fundamentally wrong.

If Casey belongs in jail the Prosecution better file some charges.
What's not peaceful about a dog enjoying a sprinkler on a hot day in Florida?
We all know Cindy is a dog lover too.
I don't think anyone here said the lady with the dog was screaming anything...sounds pretty peaceful.
I wish the people who feel the need to protest would follow her lead. I can appreciate someone like Bernice's owner far more than the screamers.
JMO.

hamebone
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html


Video of woman with Bernice.

What a beautiful dog.

She is right no dog lover would go without doing all they could to find a missing pet.

Casey is a freak against nature.

kitty1182
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
Yeah, apparently his new job is Driving Miss Crazy.

LOL....He's probally waiting around for the big bucks to start pouring in too..

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
The thought of the gp's as VICTIMS makes me want to barf. Caylee is the victim, the gp's are the enablers, and their wayward daughter the likely perpetrator of the likely crime. We know for sure she's a neglectful parent.

And just how would you handle the only possible link to your Granddaughter?

If they alienate Casey, they alienate Caylee. They have learned that the hard way

Fallen Angel
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
LOL, I told my sister today I thought he looked like a really old Cory Feldman!

Ok i can agree with that also lol

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
Well, I guess Cindy took the poster's advice (can't remember who's advice it was) to turn on the sprinklers.

Carol25
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm
Okay, taking the dog's bowl is over the top!:flamemad: The sign is bad, too. Will be eagerly awaiting to hear more!

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
He took the dog bowl too and threw it in the trash :eek:I don't think he can do that, legally. Is he taking over for George? Turning out to be quite the heartless *******, taking water/food from a dog. imo

Katprint
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
But what does that mean??

Preserve doesn't equal stop, correct??

I would think this has to do with kinda the attitude to "Save it"...

Probably save it so that we can have our own test run

:shrug:
I think there's two parts. One part is that if the official test results are DIFFERENT than what has been "leaked" i.e. that there was NOT any decomposition vapor in the vehicle or that there was NOT any DNA in the stain or that there was NOT a death ring on the Caylee's hair, then of course the defense will want such exculpatory evidence to be preserved.

The other part is, sometimes two separate labs testing samples of the same thing come up with two different results. For example, the FBI fingerprint labs get in trouble from time to time for misidentifying fingerprints, which is more subjective than most people realize. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/chi-0411140299nov14,0,3336405.story Additionally, there can be problems with DNA matching techniques, most particularly because to address "band-shifting," in which the bands from supposedly identical DNA samples do not match exactly for technical reasons, the FBI's Laboratory Division accepted a 2-2.3 percent variation in band matches. This can lead to erroneous "matches." http://www.nacdl.org/MEDIA/pr000096.htm When the "witnesses" testifying against the defendant are scientists testifying about their test results, the Confrontation Clause of the U.S. Constitution - as well as modern notions of fairness and justice - requires preservation of the evidence so that the defense can doublecheck those test results with its own scientists.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Puhleeze. NeJame is on local 6 now (www.local6.com) saying the Anthonys are 'emotionaly spent', yada, yada, yada. Had to hit the mute button.

PS - thanks for clearing up my 'bad' work and using a smilie instead. Sorry about that.

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
What's not peaceful about a dog enjoying a sprinkler on a hot day in Florida?
We all know Cindy is a dog lover too.
I don't think anyone here said the lady with the dog was screaming anything...sounds pretty peaceful.
I wish the people who feel the need to protest would follow her lead. I can appreciate someone like Bernice's owner far more than the screamers.
JMO.

Because the dog isn't there by choice.

I'm fine with the lady, but don't force the dog to sit in the sprinkler.

deep*fear
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
webcam live
Nope the trees aren't moving, it should be a little windy there

GrannyB
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
Believe me, you'll get no argument from me about Casey's character, or shall we say, lack thereof.

I don't condone nor believe her lies, and never have.

----------------------------------------------------------
But wait....I thought you were a poster who believed that Caylee was kidnapped?? Do I have you mistaken for some other poster??? TIA for your response
__________________

First of all, I've never said that Caylee was kidnapped, and in fact I've said that the word "kidnapped" is being tossed around in a game of semantics.

If Caylee was willingly handed off to someone else out of spite for Cindy, for example, she wouldn't be kidnapped in the sense of the word that most think of in reference.

If Caylee were being held as a mutual exchange due to Casey either being involved in, or witnessing a murder, she wouldn't be kidnapped in the sense of the word that most think of in reference.

If Caylee was sold by Casey, she wouldn't be kidnapped, she wouldn't be kidnapped in the sense of the word that most think of in reference.

If Caylee was given back to her birth father, or the father's family, she wouldn't be kidnapped, she wouldn't be kidnapped in the sense of the word that most think of in reference.

There are also many other scenarios which could very well include a live Caylee, which I do believe at this point she is still alive.

Believing that she is alive doesn't have to also mean that I believe Casey's lies - the two are not jointed. No one lies "all the time", about every single thing, and that includes Casey, proven in the documents; some of what she said was true, doused with very heavy, obscure doses of lies.


If she is still alive whose body was in the trunk?:shrug:

emanondeeni
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
I don't ever remember that happening. Good thing you asked for a link. i don't think one exists but we could be wrong.

The only incident I remember was the band that came by and LP smacked his microphone stand as he was telling them to get on down the road with their music.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
I don't ever remember that happening. Good thing you asked for a link. i don't think one exists but we could be wrong.


We're not wrong. There is no link 'cause it didn't happen. There were no protesters in front of the house prior to Casey being bonded out the first time. When she was re-arrested, there were no protesters the week she was back in jail. Only when she was bonded back out by the Anthonys did the protesters show back up.

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
Okay, Lee stepped over the line here. The police said it's fine and he actually not only took her sign but her dog's bowl and broke and threw them away? Destroying someone else's property on the dog bowl for sure. I think they are going waaaaay over the line now. It's so simple to stay inside and ignore. I guess it's working. They can't stop themselves from reacting and now both he and George have done something that could get them in trouble. Especially since the LE were called and said she is fine where she is sitting quietly. JMHO

They should bolt and lock the door. They are really going to hurt someone and it will be on tape (like Casey cashin the bad checks) then they will be in jail!
jmo...

joolz
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
snipped
If you want to tell what a show is marketed for, watch the ads while the show's on, and you'll quickly discover who it's aimed at.

That show is aimed at middle aged women who lean liberal and slightly conservative, and who have feminist tendencies.

Hmmmmm, middle aged women who lean liberal AND slightly conservative AND have "feminist" (uh-oh!) tendencies? Nancy Grace must have a HUGE audience if she can please everyone that description covers! JMO:D

happy2bme
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
You may not like it but it is a right to protest in peace. It is a right of your country and mine. In MOO they created the travesty.


They sure did. I don't think people would be acting like this if it weren't for all the lies, pizza stories, someone put a body in the car at the tow yard, mother of the year, being called maggots, parasites,leeches or what ever else nonsense the Anthony's have spewed.

I wonder if Casey really gets or comprehends just how disliked she really is?

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:38 PM
Two. Click on that link. He is introduced as roommate.

Thanks again!

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pmWhoa! Pushing it, isn't he? Does he think he gets a free pass from LE?

Roux
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I read ALOT. I have been reading tru-crime and murder mysteries for over 25 years. Ever since the "script to follow" scenario came out, it keeps nagging at me.

I know I have read a book that included a "script to follow". I have googled it every which way I can imagine. I have talked to friends who read the same type of book and they agree, the "script to follow" is familiar.

Did anyone else get that I know this story feeling?

the case it put me in mind of was the fellow who delivered pizza, robbed bank, and was sadly & horribly blown up by the bomb attached to him.

OneUp
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
Yeah, apparently his new job is Driving Miss Crazy.:eek:
........ummm...*deleted*, 'nuff said.

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
If anybody was holding any glimmer of hope that Lee was gonna be a hero in all of this.....

That ought to knock you back into reality.

:mad:



Never had a glimmer here. Family trait.

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
If anybody was holding any glimmer of hope that Lee was gonna be a hero in all of this.....

That ought to knock you back into reality.

:mad:

Well let me say at first I really thought he might get her to talk like he said he could now I just think he is just as looney as the rest of'em are

'specially after this latest tantrum he threw.. :punch:

courtsinsession
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
OF CASEY JUST LIKE EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN A "FRIEND" A PARENT, a grandparent; Casey has stolen from those who trusted her and lied her way through life. Caylee however, is Casey's ultimate victime; an innocent victim of a sociopathic, mean, nasty, lying witch; I believe she did away with Caylee for two reasons: Caylee was interfering with her social life and she wanted to get back at her mother, Caylee's grandmother, who loved her and doted on her; When the parents were getting ready to evict Casey from their home, Casey decided to pay them back with the thing she knew would break their hearts; losing Caylee- permanently; I have to tell you though I think she is smug because she knows she believes they will never find Caylee; i don't think they will either; i think she burned her body with gasoline.There is nothing left to find.

barskin&co.
09-10-2008, 06:40 PM
Hmmmmm, middle aged women who lean liberal AND slightly conservative AND have "feminist" (uh-oh!) tendencies? Nancy Grace must have a HUGE audience if she can please everyone that description covers! JMO:D

Ah, yes. I see. In other words Nancy Grace appeals to women who have two X chromosomes. Good going, Nancy!

lonetraveler
09-10-2008, 06:40 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm


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She should have brought a pit bull.....................anyway, I don't approve of protesters in front of the house the way they have been but I can understand that some people are just fed up with Casey's parents and brother continuing to lie and pretend that their precious daughter had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance and most probably death. Some people are so frustrated that they travel to the Anthony's house and express their disgust and anger. I'm also angry, I would help search for Caylee if I could. I'm beginning to think that absolutely nothing will make Caylee or her parents and brother tell the real story. Lets hope that Caylee is found, dead or alive (although there is plenty of evidence that to me points to Caylee being deceased).

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:41 PM
Whoa! Pushing it, isn't he? Does he think he gets a free pass from LE?

Mmhmm..i think so. Maybe they think the more THEY are in the news, the less Caylee is. IT should be a crime for a child to vanish and the family not even search. jmo

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:41 PM
The only incident I remember was the band that came by and LP smacked his microphone stand as he was telling them to get on down the road with their music.

And that was AFTER she was bonded out by Padilla.

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:41 PM
And just how would you handle the only possible link to your Granddaughter?

If they alienate Casey, they alienate Caylee. They have learned that the hard way

At first, not sure. But I know I would not have waited 31 days. I'd have called the police on day 2 and advised them ....my daughter disappeared with my car without my permission and I fear for my grandaughters safety - because the daughter and NO JOB, NO CASH, NO VISIBLE MEANS OF SUPPORT and is incapable of raising a child herself. I would have advised them that her track record showed her to be a pathological liar, and I have evidence she's a thief. My second call would have been to DFS. But. That's just my opinion.

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Snipped:

It is their fundamental right to hold a vigil/protest/demonstration given us by the Constitution.
:patriot:


It's only fundamentally right if it's a PEACEFUL protest. That three ring circus just needs an elephant in a tu tu and it will be complete.

That is anything but peaceful

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Nope the trees aren't moving, it should be a little windy there

I spoke too soon. The cam was frozen all day so when I saw the lady and Bernice I got a bit excited!! :D

AMS
09-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm


Thanks d2d. Seems to me that Lee has changed a bit since she was last released. He seems more on the edge and more cocky (high five) at the same time. I thought George would be the first to really lose it. Might now be Lee.

I feel bad for him. I hope his girl friend and job and sticking with him.

MOO

5boxersmom
09-10-2008, 06:42 PM
I read ALOT. I have been reading tru-crime and murder mysteries for over 25 years. Ever since the "script to follow" scenario came out, it keeps nagging at me.

I know I have read a book that included a "script to follow". I have googled it every which way I can imagine. I have talked to friends who read the same type of book and they agree, the "script to follow" is familiar.

Did anyone else get that I know this story feeling?


I don't know if anyone answered yet. The pizza guy bank robber with the bomb around his neck?

jmo

barskin&co.
09-10-2008, 06:43 PM
So Nejame has come out swingin' in his defense of George and Cindy. And his argument is so original:

Nejame said people need to understand what the family is going through.

"Who is somebody else to tell another person how long they are supposed to grieve and how long they are supposed act? Who? Who are we to do that?" he said.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html

CinTN
09-10-2008, 06:43 PM
OK cam is froze up again,, we need to bombard fox with emails to have there guys on scene make sure the cam is working properly... :flamemad:

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:43 PM
Nope the trees aren't moving, it should be a little windy there

Just heard on their news that there is a tornado warning in the western part of the county :chicken:

Rebel Rouzer
09-10-2008, 06:44 PM
Everyone has their limits. Imagine what Lee and the grandparents have been through in their front yard the last few days.

Their only hope to find Caylee is by supporting Casey. That's their only hope. They don't deserve this.

Casey does. They don't


To a certain degree . I agree with you. IMO

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 06:44 PM
Everyone has their limits. Imagine what Lee and the grandparents have been through in their front yard the last few days.

Their only hope to find Caylee is by supporting Casey. That's their only hope. They don't deserve this.

Casey does. They don't

I understand that but wouldn't it be better to just go inside? The less they react people will get bored and go home. They are there to get a reaction and the Anthony's are playing right into there hands. JMO

nellbell
09-10-2008, 06:45 PM
What does the dog sign say? I enlarged page but it just got fuzzy.TIA

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:45 PM
At first, not sure. But I know I would not have waited 31 days. I'd have called the police on day 2 and advised them ....my daughter disappeared with my car without my permission and I fear for my grandaughters safety - because the daughter and NO JOB, NO CASH, NO VISIBLE MEANS OF SUPPORT and is incapable of raising a child herself. I would have advised them that her track record showed her to be a pathological liar, and I have evidence she's a thief. My second call would have been to DFS. But. That's just my opinion.


Casey is an adult. It was her right to leave with her child. It was not Cindy's right to involve police on day two Casey moving out. In hindsight, she probably wishes she had, but she had not been given sufficient reason to involve police at that time.

Once she did involve police, you saw the reaction she got from her daughter. Stone-wall.

They know the only way to find their granddaughter is to support their daughter. That is their only hope. What a sad place to be.

But for the grace of God, there go I.

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:45 PM
So Nejame has come out swingin' in his defense of George and Cindy. And his argument is so original:

Nejame said people need to understand what the family is going through.

"Who is somebody else to tell another person how long they are supposed to grieve and how long they are supposed act? Who? Who are we to do that?" he said.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html


Grieve??? How can they grieve when she's alive and well in Puerto Rico?? Funny, how they don't seem to want to go GET HER!

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:46 PM
Everyone has their limits. Imagine what Lee and the grandparents have been through in their front yard the last few days.

Their only hope to find Caylee is by supporting Casey. That's their only hope. They don't deserve this.

Casey does. They don'tThey don't get a free pass to break the law. You go take something away from somebody on a public property, destroy it and abuse their animal. See how far you get with that. imo

CNTM
09-10-2008, 06:46 PM
Hi all! :seeya: Been MIA a few days with a minor heat stroke, but all is well now and I'm back in the 'puter chair again.

I am hot now!:flamemad: I cannot believe what Lee did to the lady and her fur baby! MY OPINION of him is a pure :no: Don't wanna get banned using the words I have chosen, but you can fill in the blank any way you please and it won't be harsh enough, I M O!

Whew, that's off my chest!

Good to see all of 'ya again!

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Do you have a link to the un-peaceful protest?
Because all I see is a very quiet scene.


It might be at this moment, but this last two weeks has probably had a huge impact on the frazzled nerves of the Anthony family. A person can only be provoked for so long before they react.

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Something about she wouldnt let her dog stay missing 31 days without going to search for it.

From ws...

Ch 6 just reported that the police wouldn't make the lady with the dog move. So, CA turned on the sprinklers. Then, the lady with the dog was sitting in a chair and Lee came out and told her to move (even tho the police had said she didn't have to) and apparently she refused. Lee then broke the woman's sign in half and took it and the dog's bowl and threw it in someone's trash.
The reporter said he'll have the story (and hopefully video) at 6pm

He's starting to get on my last nerve.:flamemad:

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
It's only fundamentally right if it's a PEACEFUL protest. That three ring circus just needs an elephant in a tu tu and it will be complete.

That is anything but peacefulYou're right, Lee is not peaceful. imo

joolz
09-10-2008, 06:48 PM
We're not wrong. There is no link 'cause it didn't happen. There were no protesters in front of the house prior to Casey being bonded out the first time. When she was re-arrested, there were no protesters the week she was back in jail. Only when she was bonded back out by the Anthonys did the protesters show back up.


Wait, we MUST be wrong because the poster who claimed it is ALWAYS right. Right? I'm SURE she'll be back with a link any moment now. Tick-tock. :D

Personally, the protesters do make me very uncomfortable. I know it's their right to be there, but it does smack of mob mentality, and that's scary. Anyone could get hurt at any time. I'd prefer to see this unfold without demonstrations, but mostly I'd prefer LE to be able to charge Casey with murder ASAP. The dog is gorgeous.:)

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:48 PM
Hi all! :seeya: Been MIA a few days with a minor heat stroke, but all is well now and I'm back in the 'puter chair again.

I am hot now!:flamemad: I cannot believe what Lee did to the lady and her fur baby! MY OPINION of him is a pure :no: Don't wanna get banned using the words I have chosen, but you can fill in the blank any way you please and it won't be harsh enough, I M O!

Whew, that's off my chest!

Good to see all of 'ya again!


Oh wow...glad you are feeling better. (rose for you)

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:48 PM
true and I'm sure CA and Ga pay some form of taxes on the money they make from selling their granddaughter's story. That's income isn't it?


That's taxable income as well as Cindy having to pay a penalty for cashing in any portion of her retirement $ early to pay Casey's debts, and the find caylee fund, everything donated to them is taxable income. They are not a charity. They'll be able to deduct ligitimate expenses used for fliers, etc. But even the items donated such as the billboards, everything. Don't believe they can deduct their normal living expenses, though. And probably not even lost wages. They voluntarily left their jobs. I would even questions whether Cindy is still receiving full salary from her job. On a job you get family leave, meaning they will hold your job if applicable and agreeable by the employer, but they don't usually PAY you while you take it and the government doesn't force them to pay you - only to allow personal family leave that means the given criteria, imho.

Acorn
09-10-2008, 06:48 PM
I don't know if anyone answered yet. The pizza guy bank robber with the bomb around his neck?

jmo

Yes. That was a bizarre note. Nine pages.

Loves2Read
09-10-2008, 06:48 PM
And that was AFTER she was bonded out by Padilla.

ITA. The first I remember hearing of anyone protesting at all in any way was AFTER Padilla got her out the first time she was out on bond. There were none before IIRC. After she got out they started and have never stopped.

♫Rock*Star♫
09-10-2008, 06:49 PM
Snipped:

It is their fundamental right to hold a vigil/protest/demonstration given us by the Constitution.
:patriot:

Yes it is! :patriot:

True2Blues
09-10-2008, 06:49 PM
Okay, Lee stepped over the line here. The police said it's fine and he actually not only took her sign but her dog's bowl and broke and threw them away? Destroying someone else's property on the dog bowl for sure. I think they are going waaaaay over the line now. It's so simple to stay inside and ignore. I guess it's working. They can't stop themselves from reacting and now both he and George have done something that could get them in trouble. Especially since the LE were called and said she is fine where she is sitting quietly. JMHO

The things you miss when you don't check in here for a few hours! I agree, Lee went way over the line. This family is really taking advantage of local LE. LE has to walk on eggshells because they are the family of a 'missing child', so they are getting passes on a lot of things they do. Someone needs to put a foot down and tell the Anthonys that they have to follow the laws. It's obvious they think they don't have to, but a line needs to be drawn.

cantstandnuts
09-10-2008, 06:49 PM
Puhleeze. NeJame is on local 6 now (www.local6.com) saying the Anthonys are 'emotionaly spent', yada, yada, yada. Had to hit the mute button.

PS - thanks for clearing up my 'bad' work and using a smilie instead. Sorry about that.


I'd be emotionally spent if I were them. You don't think they should be?

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:49 PM
It might be at this moment, but this last two weeks has probably had a huge impact on the frazzled nerves of the Anthony family. A person can only be provoked for so long before they react.You saying people should keep their mouths shut and not assert their freedom of speech, to avoid violence?

barskin&co.
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Grieve??? How can they grieve when she's alive and well in Puerto Rico?? Funny, how they don't seem to want to go GET HER!


Uh...jammies, Nejame is a defense attorney. What are you doing expecting him to be logical?

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
They don't get a free pass to break the law. You go take something away from somebody on a public property, destroy it and abuse their animal. See how far you get with that. imo

Neither do the "peaceful protesters" screaming "baby killer".

Enough already. The next protester that breaks the law should allow the Anthony's have complete peace on their property.

The Anthony's are not my favorite people, and I believe they have made alot of mistakes and said alot of careless things, but I am not completely devoid of compassion for these people that have no idea where their grandchild is.

kakax
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Wait, we MUST be wrong because the poster who claimed it is ALWAYS right. Right? I'm SURE she'll be back with a link any moment now. Tick-tock. :D

Personally, the protesters do make me very uncomfortable. I know it's their right to be there, but it does smack of mob mentality, and that's scary. Anyone could get hurt at any time. I'd prefer to see this unfold without demonstrations, but mostly I'd prefer LE to be able to charge Casey with murder ASAP. The dog is gorgeous.:)


ITA with all that you have said. The protesters make me uncomfortable as well. I wouldn't be the one there protesting, but I might be one of the rubber neckers. (I'm pretty nosey)

st777jo
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks Willow.

CNTM
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Oh wow...glad you are feeling better. (rose for you)

Thank you kakax! :seeya:

♫Rock*Star♫
09-10-2008, 06:51 PM
So Nejame has come out swingin' in his defense of George and Cindy. And his argument is so original:

Nejame said people need to understand what the family is going through.

"Who is somebody else to tell another person how long they are supposed to grieve and how long they are supposed act? Who? Who are we to do that?" he said.
http://www.local6.com/news/17439075/detail.html

How long they are supposed to act?? 30 days according to the script. :shrug:

Laurieann
09-10-2008, 06:51 PM
It's only fundamentally right if it's a PEACEFUL protest. That three ring circus just needs an elephant in a tu tu and it will be complete.

That is anything but peaceful

The lady and the dog were sitting quietly.
Peaceful IMO
Lee had no right to take her stuff.
Cindy was within her rights to turn on the sprinkler.
MOO IMO

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:51 PM
Casey is an adult. It was her right to leave with her child. It was not Cindy's right to involve police on day two Casey moving out. In hindsight, she probably wishes she had, but she had not been given sufficient reason to involve police at that time.

Once she did involve police, you saw the reaction she got from her daughter. Stone-wall.

They know the only way to find their granddaughter is to support their daughter. That is their only hope. What a sad place to be.

But for the grace of God, there go I.


That's carp. Pure, unadulturated carp.hammer:cuss:

OneUp
09-10-2008, 06:52 PM
Because the dog isn't there by choice.

I'm fine with the lady, but don't force the dog to sit in the sprinkler.A. Tell it to Cindy, she turned it on
B. I imagine the dog doesn't mind...I can't see him ( I don't watch the cam), but my doggies always loved the sprinkler.
JMO.

joolz
09-10-2008, 06:52 PM
I don't know if anyone answered yet. The pizza guy bank robber with the bomb around his neck?

jmo

I read ALOT. I have been reading tru-crime and murder mysteries for over 25 years. Ever since the "script to follow" scenario came out, it keeps nagging at me.

I know I have read a book that included a "script to follow". I have googled it every which way I can imagine. I have talked to friends who read the same type of book and they agree, the "script to follow" is familiar.

Did anyone else get that I know this story feeling?

Are you thinking about the Menendez brothers? There was a scriopt involved there somewhere. And another case of two affluent highschool guys in North Cal or Seattle who murdered the Indian or Pakistani parents of one - a script was mentioned in that one too IIRC.

redcard
09-10-2008, 06:52 PM
Regarding protests, etc..

You don't have the right to protest another person or anything granted by the constitution.

The constitution does respect personal / private property laws, and if you are on my property with a sign and a dog, you will be arrested.

If not, that's fine.. but please , the constitution does not give you the right to protest other people or other things. All it says is that the right to peacefully protest the government for a redress of grievances shall not be infringed.

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:53 PM
That's carp. Pure, unadulturated carp.hammer:cuss:

Yep. Casey has them right where she's had them all along.....over a barrel. That might work for 10 seconds if my granddaughter was missing presumably DEAD.

cantstandnuts
09-10-2008, 06:53 PM
It might be at this moment, but this last two weeks has probably had a huge impact on the frazzled nerves of the Anthony family. A person can only be provoked for so long before they react.


I am so glad someone said that. ITA.

CNTM
09-10-2008, 06:53 PM
Oh wow! I hope you feel better now; heat stroke is MISERABLE for sure! :rose:
I totally agree. what is wrong with these people! protestor from the other day was right, go back to Ohio, no offense to Ohio but who raised these people?

Road trip for them to Ohio would probably thrill the neighbors to no end!

*On the road again...*

True2Blues
09-10-2008, 06:53 PM
Wait, we MUST be wrong because the poster who claimed it is ALWAYS right. Right? I'm SURE she'll be back with a link any moment now. Tick-tock. :D

Personally, the protesters do make me very uncomfortable. I know it's their right to be there, but it does smack of mob mentality, and that's scary. Anyone could get hurt at any time. I'd prefer to see this unfold without demonstrations, but mostly I'd prefer LE to be able to charge Casey with murder ASAP. The dog is gorgeous.:)

The protesters don't bother me much. They haven't done anything violent, haven't thrown rocks, haven't tried to physically attack the Anthonys. I think all of the dangerous people are INSIDE of that house. It's when they come out that the trouble starts.

:seeya:

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:53 PM
You saying people should keep their mouths shut and not assert their freedom of speech, to avoid violence?

I'm saying they need to stay within the parameters of a peaceful protest and needed to right from the start.

They haven't done that and they have provoked the Anthony's to fire back.

It's a freak show.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:54 PM
You've apparently forgotten that Casey was back in jail for a period of time between the Surety company revoking her first Bond, and then her current Bond.

I haven't forgotten anything. There were no protesters until she was bonded out by Padilla.

Now, please provide a link where there were protesters while she was incarcerated for the week and 2 days on the re-arrest - not counting the ones who hung around the Friday night after she was arrested the 2nd time.

Thank you.

day2day
09-10-2008, 06:54 PM
It's only fundamentally right if it's a PEACEFUL protest. That three ring circus just needs an elephant in a tu tu and it will be complete.

That is anything but peaceful

This lady and her pup were FINE. LE didn't ask her to move. SO what gives Lee the right to take her things -tear them up and throw them away. :shrug:

marinewife5
09-10-2008, 06:54 PM
You saying people should keep their mouths shut and not assert their freedom of speech, to avoid violence?

I am perhaps not as intelligent as some posters, but that sounds a lot like bullying to me. Seems to the be Anthony Family theme...
jmo

eta: along with a gross sense of entitlement

cutiepatootie61
09-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Hi all! :seeya: Been MIA a few days with a minor heat stroke, but all is well now and I'm back in the 'puter chair again.

I am hot now!:flamemad: I cannot believe what Lee did to the lady and her fur baby! MY OPINION of him is a pure :no: Don't wanna get banned using the words I have chosen, but you can fill in the blank any way you please and it won't be harsh enough, I M O!

Whew, that's off my chest!

Good to see all of 'ya again!

What happened? I just got on, Lee did something to someone? Can you explain please?

Laurieann
09-10-2008, 06:55 PM
It might be at this moment, but this last two weeks has probably had a huge impact on the frazzled nerves of the Anthony family. A person can only be provoked for so long before they react.


Seems to me that THIS time, Lee is the one doing the provoking

Unsolved
09-10-2008, 06:56 PM
The Anthonys would not have a circus around their house if they had left the ringmaster in jail. Now, they have people watching them walk a tightrope and jump through hoops at the command of the ringmaster. The Anthonys are probably just mad because they haven't been able to figure out a way to charge money for the circus! Would not surprise me if they marked off squares in their yard and charged people to sit there.

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Road trip for them to Ohio would probably thrill the neighbors to no end!

*On the road again...*


Um, thanks but no thanks! Let FLA keep them.

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 06:57 PM
You need to read the original post again by day2day, claiming that "if the Anthonys wanted it to stop, they should leave Casey in jail".

Well, Casey was in jail between Bonds, and the protesters still behaved foolishly in front of the Anthony home, so as I said, that theory doesn't hold water.


Please provide the link where there were protesters "behaving foolishly" or otherwise in front of the Anthony home while Casey was in jail between bonds.

2nd request.

TIA

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 06:57 PM
Casey is an adult. It was her right to leave with her child. It was not Cindy's right to involve police on day two Casey moving out. In hindsight, she probably wishes she had, but she had not been given sufficient reason to involve police at that time.

Once she did involve police, you saw the reaction she got from her daughter. Stone-wall.

They know the only way to find their granddaughter is to support their daughter. That is their only hope. What a sad place to be.

But for the grace of God, there go I.

You make good points. However, given the circumstances that Casey had lived with the gp's since the birth of her child and not supported the child (as Dr Phil has often advised people) they would be within their rights to call both police and DFS. Because the child was in danger. So pretty much we agree that we disagree, but that's ok, too. These are only our opinions and don't really count. I experienced by son and two children living with us for quite some time. The mother was out of the picture. One son was medically disabled. 24/7 we knew where he and the children were. If a day had come when I had no contact with the son (and we were on good terms) or either child disappeared - right or wrong on day two I would have called. There could have been any reason they would be in danger because we were always in contact. We didn't have a swinging door policy that he just came and went as he wished. The results here are truly sad, and imho, the Anthonys' could kiss Casey's feet at high noon in public and she will never tell them the truth. What I hear the shrinks discuss about Casey's personality disorder leads me to believe the situation is hopeless. It will be a fluke it someone finds the child, dead or alive.

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 06:57 PM
Neither do the "peaceful protesters" screaming "baby killer".

Enough already. The next protester that breaks the law should allow the Anthony's have complete peace on their property.

The Anthony's are not my favorite people, and I believe they have made alot of mistakes and said alot of careless things, but I am not completely devoid of compassion for these people that have no idea where their grandchild is.Those two women and their dog were not screaming anything. They were on public property. They are not breaking the law.

You're OK with them getting the brunt of all the other protesters who did that? Then you should be OK with Casey getting the brunt of all the other alleged child killers as yet not convicted. How's that working for you? imo

MyrDawn
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
I'm not sure about FLA trial laws, but I recall in other trials that the evidence samples have to be divided so that the defense can do their own tests, if they wish. If that's true in FLA, why is Baez making an issue of it? imo

I don't think they have to be divided. I've seen many cases where a defense attorney has filed a motion to be provided with samples so they can conduct their own tests. That's probably what Baez has done. I've heard in some cases, there isn't enough DNA left for the defense after the LE has run their tests. That may be why Baez if filing the motion before Casey is charged with Cayless murder...so some will be preserved for defense tests.

jMO

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
Yep. Casey has them right where she's had them all along.....over a barrel. That might work for 10 seconds if my granddaughter was missing presumably DEAD.

That sounds about right.:seeya:

frances1
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
Casey is an adult. It was her right to leave with her child. It was not Cindy's right to involve police on day two Casey moving out. In hindsight, she probably wishes she had, but she had not been given sufficient reason to involve police at that time.

Once she did involve police, you saw the reaction she got from her daughter. Stone-wall.

They know the only way to find their granddaughter is to support their daughter. That is their only hope. What a sad place to be.

But for the grace of God, there go I.


Well, now the police are involved, and they're going to stay involved. Casey's parents should realize by now after 22 years that Casey is a liar. She will not tell them or anyone else the truth about what happened to Caylee.

Armchairdet
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
I wonder if the 'new check fraud charges' is true. I am wondering if they are not planning another weekend arrest so she cannot get out until Monday.

I know even if it is in a news article we don't know if it is true, since it just says sources say...

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
It's about time someone, preferably her parents, take that ENORMOUS power Casey has away from her. Should've been done long ago, needless to say.

How are they going to alienate Casey? Do you think another living soul on this earth is going to harbor that sociopath? The Anthonys are all Casey's got.

Alienate her, my hat.


Well I tell you what.

If my daughter was acting like Casey and these were my two choices:

1. Alienate Casey and never know what happened to Caylee
2. Befriend and support Casey and hope that I can at least recover Caylee's body


I'd be all over door number 2.

But that's just me

martha
09-10-2008, 06:58 PM
All the anthony's have to do is go in their house and pull the blinds and curtins and pretend the people or not out in front of their house. no they put up a camera so they could see the people in front of their house. they want the whole world to help find caylee but then they don;t want anyone not to agree with them. Lee needs to be put in jail too. Jmho:rose:

5boxersmom
09-10-2008, 06:59 PM
I was just thinking. I wonder if Baez filing that today has to do with anything that might have been found in the recent searches? I know there is internet rumors of something being found. jmo

Caylee:rose:

kitty1182
09-10-2008, 06:59 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17438472/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news


Looks like Casey is going to be facing more charges in the next few days I wonder if she will be arrested again?

I sure hope so..:o

SavannahStar
09-10-2008, 06:59 PM
the case it put me in mind of was the fellow who delivered pizza, robbed bank, and was sadly & horribly blown up by the bomb attached to him.

Oh gosh that was the most terrible thing. Coincidentally enough I saw something on TV about that just the other night.

jammies
09-10-2008, 06:59 PM
That sounds about right.:seeya:

Hiya, forpsy!

day2day
09-10-2008, 07:00 PM
Well I tell you what.

If my daughter was acting like Casey and these were my two choices:

1. Alienate Casey and never know what happened to Caylee
2. Befriend and support Casey and hope that I can at least recover Caylee's body


I'd be all over door number 2.

But that's just me

And NOT search for your grandchild?! Hmmmm

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 07:01 PM
Those two women and their dog were not screaming anything. They were on public property. They are not breaking the law.

You're OK with them getting the brunt of all the other protesters who did that? Then you should be OK with Casey getting the brunt of all the other alleged child killers as yet not convicted. How's that working for you? imo

They represent the proverbial "straw that broke the back".

And I'm just fine with Casey being charged with murder. Haven't seen that yet.

The protest is not helping Caylee. It's helping Casey.

jammies
09-10-2008, 07:01 PM
I wonder if the 'new check fraud charges' is true. I am wondering if they are not planning another weekend arrest so she cannot get out until Monday.

I know even if it is in a news article we don't know if it is true, since it just says sources say...


I keep hoping the grandparents press charges.

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 07:01 PM
I don't think they have to be divided. I've seen many cases where a defense attorney has filed a motion to be provided with samples so they can conduct their own tests. That's probably what Baez has done. I've heard in some cases, there isn't enough DNA left for the defense after the LE has run their tests. That may be why Baez if filing the motion before Casey is charged with Cayless murder...so some will be preserved for defense tests.

jMODon't you think LE knows that? :confused:

WillowInFlight
09-10-2008, 07:02 PM
I wonder if the 'new check fraud charges' is true. I am wondering if they are not planning another weekend arrest so she cannot get out until Monday.

I know even if it is in a news article we don't know if it is true, since it just says sources say...

Has a trial date for her neglect charges been made yet?

CinTN
09-10-2008, 07:02 PM
I'd be emotionally spent if I were them. You don't think they should be?

They would not be this way if they would tell the truth and get their momster princess to tell the truth ... !!! JMO !!!

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 07:02 PM
And NOT search for your grandchild?! Hmmmm

If they search for a dead body they are not supporting Casey. It's a double edged sword.
They are playing along with Casey that Caylee is alive.

Casey is playing her parents like fiddles in my opinion

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Everyone has their limits. Imagine what Lee and the grandparents have been through in their front yard the last few days.

Their only hope to find Caylee is by supporting Casey. That's their only hope. They don't deserve this.

Casey does. They don't


How long have you been following this case? How closely have you paid attention? Does the fact that no one find's Lee's actions surprising not tell you something? Oh sure, we talk all day long about Lee or George's anger and we note their tone and tenor. Act surprised? Not so much.

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
They represent the proverbial "straw that broke the back".

And I'm just fine with Casey being charged with murder. Haven't seen that yet.

The protest is not helping Caylee. It's helping Casey.Then WHAT in your opinion, is Lee getting all riled up about?

concernedmom
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
I was just thinking. I wonder if Baez filing that today has to do with anything that might have been found in the recent searches? I know there is internet rumors of something being found. jmo

Caylee:rose:

Well we know US didnt provide Casey with a cell phone. I wonder if she lost something at the crime scene she was worried about?:shrug:

MyrDawn
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Don't you think LE knows that? :confused:

Knows what? That Baez filed the motion? :confused::confused:

emanondeeni
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
And that was AFTER she was bonded out by Padilla.

Oh... you are so right, my mistake. :punch:

cantstandnuts
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
This lady and her pup were FINE. LE didn't ask her to move. SO what gives Lee the right to take her things -tear them up and throw them away. :shrug:


Nobody said he had the right. I think what's been suggested is that he's pretty much at the end of his rope emotionally, much like his mother and father and totally unlike his sister who seems to be having no problem with any of this.

This whole thing, the protestors, the webcams on the house and car, the people going through the trash AND an apparently unaffected person of interest is just too sick for words and I don't see why people have such a hard time understanding why the family may be snapping and acting badly.

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 07:04 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17438472/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news


Looks like Casey is going to be facing more charges in the next few days I wonder if she will be arrested again?


I think this time they will let her turn herself in. JMO

Roux
09-10-2008, 07:05 PM
EXACTLY.......it all depends on the Anthonys reactions. It is a vicious cycle between the media/protesters/Anthonys.....remove one the others go away.

One would think that NeJame would tell them to stay indoors.

FoxySly
09-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Casey is a TAX payer ???


But, but, she paid sales tax at Target with the checks she stoled from Amy. Oh I guess Amy is the one who really paid, what a friend she had in casey!

Other then that she needs to have a job to pay taxes or property. Dang, I just paid my 1st quarter property & business taxes, it ain't fun but at least my $$$ ain't going for casey expenses.

I swear unless I couldn't afford it if I lived in Florida I'd move.

Sly

forpsystudent
09-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Hiya, forpsy!



Hi back Jammies!:seeya:

cantstandnuts
09-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Then WHAT in your opinion, is Lee getting all riled up about?


You've got to be kidding. Put yourself in his shoes for one second and you'll have the answer to that one.

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Then WHAT in your opinion, is Lee getting all riled up about?


If we can't figure out why the Anthony's and Lee are a little frazzled, explaining it won't change anyones opinion.

I don't respect how this family has handled their tragedy, but I sure don't think they deserve this

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Knows what? That Baez filed the motion? :confused::confused:No, that they have to share the forensic evidence with the defense. It's not LE's first time at the rodeo. I don't think they would not follow trial procedure, so I don't understand the concern by Baez, except to suggest to the public that LE might do something like that. That would be very stupid on LE's part, don't you think? imo

crymeariver2006
09-10-2008, 07:07 PM
Check the LINKS section, as there have been numerous posts there with all of the videos and news articles which have clearly shown the protesters there behaving foolishly when Casey was between Bonds.


Sorry, but I'm not looking for a link to something that didn't happen.

Just admit it. You were wrong.

Unless you can prove otherwise.

:seeya:

kakax
09-10-2008, 07:07 PM
I don't think they have to be divided. I've seen many cases where a defense attorney has filed a motion to be provided with samples so they can conduct their own tests. That's probably what Baez has done. I've heard in some cases, there isn't enough DNA left for the defense after the LE has run their tests. That may be why Baez if filing the motion before Casey is charged with Cayless murder...so some will be preserved for defense tests.

jMO



That is just what was said on the news.

True2Blues
09-10-2008, 07:07 PM
I'm saying they need to stay within the parameters of a peaceful protest and needed to right from the start.

They haven't done that and they have provoked the Anthony's to fire back.

It's a freak show.

Most of them have been very peaceful. That's why they are allowed to stay. They are within their rights and they are not breaking the laws.

That does not give any of the Anthonys the right to lay hands on them, threaten them or steal their things. Definitely not to take water from an animal on a summer day.

Despite what they have shown themselves to believe, the Anthonys are not above the law.

SoggyBayou
09-10-2008, 07:07 PM
I apologize, I should have never posted the news about the protester today.
Peace:patriot:

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
EXACTLY.......it all depends on the Anthonys reactions. It is a vicious cycle between the media/protesters/Anthonys.....remove one the others go away.


That's what I was always taught. If someone insults you it's because they want a reaction. The reaction is what gets you into trouble. JMO

bchand
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Fox local news just said the Anthonys have moved the big sign in again to block the protesters. The cam must be on a delay.

barskin&co.
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Are you thinking about the Menendez brothers? There was a scriopt involved there somewhere. And another case of two affluent highschool guys in North Cal or Seattle who murdered the Indian or Pakistani parents of one - a script was mentioned in that one too IIRC.

What you are thinking of is Erik Menendez. Before the murders of his parents, he and a high school friend, Craig Cignarelli, wrote a movie script called "Friends" in which a young man kills his rich parents. He got his mother, Kitty, to type it up for him.

msjoni
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Another doozy of a case.

Yeah, and it was the bank I used to work for.

concernedmom
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
All the anthony's have to do is go in their house and pull the blinds and curtins and pretend the people or not out in front of their house. no they put up a camera so they could see the people in front of their house. they want the whole world to help find caylee but then they don;t want anyone not to agree with them. Lee needs to be put in jail too. Jmho:rose:

Casey is staying there by Anthonys choice. She could stop the things happening in front of her house anytime by telling what she did with her daughter.

CinTN
09-10-2008, 07:08 PM
You're assuming that they're not searching, but in reality, you have no idea.

I thought Cindy flat out said they are not out searching ,,
I read on here (i think ) that GA was supposed to drive the big billboard up to Georgia when in fact he parked it out front of a Wendys in town,,
now dont ask me for a link cause it was a while back I read this,,

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
If we can't figure out why the Anthony's and Lee are a little frazzled, explaining it won't change anyones opinion.

I don't respect how this family has handled their tragedy, but I sure don't think they deserve thisUh...we're still talking about today and the two women with the dog, aren't we? Lee came out on public property and seized their sign and their dog dish. A "little frazzled?" Why not stay inside and ignore it. That's the best way to get rid of all the protesters. imo

KimTheGreat
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
I think the cam is stuck.

day2day
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
If they search for a dead body they are not supporting Casey. It's a double edged sword.
They are playing along with Casey that Caylee is alive.

Casey is playing her parents like fiddles in my opinion

I just don't believe that is all there is to it. Cindy has had no problem telling the public to get OFF their asses and go search for Caylee...
She undermined Tim's efforts. Cindy and George started slipping up right after the 911 call. Heck they both said they hadn't seen Caylee since June 9 -until they were confronted with pics from Casey's puter that proved otherwise.

jmo

beemeup
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
Protest in peace does not equal 1. screaming "baby killer"
2. blocking traffic
3. fighting in the streets
4. perching dogs in sprinklers

I mean c'mon...
I am not condoning the screamers YADAYADA but you do have the right to protest. The last protest i was involved in yes(just last yearand i am 51) it did get heated with verbals. Police came told us to stop yelling and we did. Not to say they were not back a few times. It was peaceful nobody got hurt. From what i understood the sprinklers were aimed at her and the dog. Film at 11. I think the whole point being their energy would be much better spent making some attempt to look for Caylee rather than stealing dogs water bowls and breaking signs. Good gawd Anthony's get off your azzz..'s and do something constructive!!!!!:cuss:

Acorn
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
IIRC except for the 1 time LE had to come out, it has been peaceful.
That is if you don't count the h ammer/shove/sign rip/ property throw/dog bowl break Anthony behaviour...

Ya'd think the Anthonys would have to be peaceful too. I hope that lady files charges against Lee.

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
I heard that Cindy turned on the sprinklers on the lady and her dog that is sitting out in front of their house with a sign


That's what was reported on the 5pm news. I wonder if there will be a link for it.

SavannahStar
09-10-2008, 07:09 PM
-------------------
She should have brought a pit bull.....................anyway, I don't approve of protesters in front of the house the way they have been but I can understand that some people are just fed up with Casey's parents and brother continuing to lie and pretend that their precious daughter had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance and most probably death. Some people are so frustrated that they travel to the Anthony's house and express their disgust and anger. I'm also angry, I would help search for Caylee if I could. I'm beginning to think that absolutely nothing will make Caylee or her parents and brother tell the real story. Lets hope that Caylee is found, dead or alive (although there is plenty of evidence that to me points to Caylee being deceased).


No pitbull jokes please. :mad:

Armchairdet
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Most of them have been very peaceful. That's why they are allowed to stay. They are within their rights and they are not breaking the laws.

That does not give any of the Anthonys the right to lay hands on them, threaten them or steal their things. Definitely not to take water from an animal on a summer day.

Despite what they have shown themselves to believe, the Anthonys are not above the law.

I don't know what happened with the dog. But judging from this post, if they took water from a dog they have issues above what I first thought imo. Maybe I am missing an important part of this story, but a dog is innocent of any wrong doing. Why would loving grandparents of a missing child that loved puppies take water from a dog? I would think they have bigger fish to fry.

OneUp
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Anyone has the right to involve the police if they fear for a child.I was a foster parent for 20 years.Thank God others were willing to step up and say 'somethings not right here.Can you look into it?"
Many parents have had to turn their own children in for child neglect or child abuse.
Cindy knew Casey didn't have a real place to live with Caylee.Cindy and George were the ones providing for Caylee.They could not legally stop Casey from leaving with Caylee without an emergency court order,but they certainly could have INVOLVED the police.I'm a former Child Advocate and Foster parent too.
I reserve this smilie for special circumstances...:beer:
Thank God for people who figure better safe than sorry when it comes to the well being of a child.
JMO.

nannigranni
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
"I took Caylee to the park where Zanny the Nanny loaded her up and handed me a script on how to act. Then I did my boyfriends laundry, made him dinner and got myself all gussied up for the Hot Body Contest. Meanwhile I dodged Mom's questions, lied to all my friends, stole some of their checks, borrowed a shovel and rid the yard of the pesky bamboo, ordered some chloroform to clean my boyfriends house, ran out of gas, called a friend and then for some stupid reason, everybody freaked cause I couldn't locate my kid, but I know she's safe, so that's why I'm not stressed."

Yeah, yeah, that's it.............


Oh, that's good

frances1
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
You need to read the original post again by day2day, claiming that "if the Anthonys wanted it to stop, they should leave Casey in jail".

Well, Casey was in jail between Bonds, and the protesters still behaved foolishly in front of the Anthony home, so as I said, that theory doesn't hold water.


You need to stop telling other posters what they need to do.

Katprint
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
<respectfully snipped>
All the anthony's have to do is go in their house and pull the blinds and curtins and pretend the people or not out in front of their house.
Invite some friends over, turn up some of their favorite music to drown out the shouting, make a pitcher of margaritas (and drink it all before Casey gets back from the law office LOL) and they could be having quite a good time, instead of stressing out over the looky-loos in the front yard.

Katprint
Who has developed excellent techniques for dealing with protesters
picketing her husband who is a local elected official
Always only my own opinions

Joan Weiss
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM
I thought Cindy flat out said they are not out searching ,,
I read on here (i think ) that GA was supposed to drive the big billboard up to Georgia when in fact he parked it out front of a Wendys in town,,
now dont ask me for a link cause it was a while back I read this,,Lol, we have "no idea?" Why is that? We know who IS searching, everyone but the Anthonys.

Wendys...lol...imo

Dogmatic
09-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Sorry, but I'm not looking for a link to something that didn't happen.

Just admit it. You were wrong.

Unless you can prove otherwise.

:seeya:


Oh, I don't have a link, but here is my best memory of protesters behaving badly as seen on television:

1. multiple people screaming "baby killer"
2. people holding baby killer signs
3. toddler holding a sign that said something like "would you kill me?"
4. young man clubbing another young man in the back of the head
5. neighbor trying to drive down the street and unable to
6. two middle aged women yelling "do the right thing" over and over again


all I can think of at the minute.

hardly peaceful to my standards

jbellaj
09-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Has a trial date for her neglect charges been made yet?


I know there is a hearing in Nov. but not sure if that's the trial or not. :shrug:

CNTM
09-10-2008, 07:11 PM
I apologize, I should have never posted the news about the protester today.
Peace:patriot:

Nah, you're good!:seeya: If you hadn't posted it, we would not have known until much later! Thank you! :patriot:

spiritwolf46
09-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Road trip for them to Ohio would probably thrill the neighbors to no end!

*On the road again...*

I don't want 'em! I DON'T WANT 'EM! They are just fine in Fla.! LOL

:rose: For Caylee

emanondeeni
09-10-2008, 07:12 PM
If they search for a dead body they are not supporting Casey. It's a double edged sword.
They are playing along with Casey that Caylee is alive.

Casey is playing her parents like fiddles in my opinion

Why do you think they are playing along with Casey that Caylee is alive? What do you think the point of that is?

Velouria
09-10-2008, 07:12 PM
Man, Lee is acting like a pure-T A$$ isn't he?

(But it goes to show you that none of the Anthony's are opposed to putting stuff in other people's garbage cans (or dumpsters).

"Pure-T"

Now there's an expression I've not heard in quite some time, cry. ;)

Hopefully, this case will have the same outcome. I'd love to hear Miss Frieda cross the Mother of the Year.

As far as Lee goes,well, all I can say is, guess even he has to take some time off from soliciting PayPal donations.

cantstandnuts
09-10-2008, 07:12 PM
They would not be this way if they would tell the truth and get their momster princess to tell the truth ... !!! JMO !!!


First of all, I don't think anyone can get Casey to tell the truth and I would bet anything they tried.

And you don't have any idea what IF ANYTHING they know about Caylee's disappearance. I don't think they know what happened to her and I believe they believe she is out there. Denial isn't indicative of evil and right now, all we know is they're guilty of denial.

And with all this going on, whether you're right or not, they're STILL going to be a the end of their ropes emotionally. You think they wouldn't feel anything if they'd acted differently? Please.

BTW, I realize you are entitled to your opinion. No need to make it super size to get me to get that.

IMO

kakax
09-10-2008, 07:12 PM
Fox local news just said the Anthonys have moved the big sign in again to block the protesters. The cam must be on a delay.

I heard that, but didn't quite get what they meant. They moved it where?