Caylee Anthony 09-10-08 A.M thread

[nutterbutter]

Good morning all.New day and new hope for the baby to be brought home to her family.:rose:

[aubrey04]

Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:

Laurieann

This really bothers me.
I thought a person could not profit from their crimes!
Really..to me...if the Anthony's are spending $$ they've made from this case..ie selling interviews, pictures etc....to the benifit of Casey, it should all have to be paid back.
This is truely disgusting.

I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

#1 - I thought the "Son of Sam" law had been struck down. That is why the Rocha's are suing Scott Peterson because if he wanted to - he could sell his story and profit from it. From my research for that case - I remember reading that the Son of Sam law was struck down because the Supreme Court ruled that it interfered with our "freedom of speech".

Someone correct me if I am wrong about that but that's what I recall.. Or maybe it was just struck down in California.

#2 - Casey hasn't been convicted of a crime.. She hasn't even been charged with murder YET, so I don't think the "Son of Sam" clause would pertain to her as of right NOW... if the clause still exists.

#3 - if I am incorrect about #1 and #2 --- the GPs, George and Cindy, would be exempt from the Son of Sam law anyway, since they were NOT responsible for the crime (allegedly). So they could essentially sell the story and use the money to pay for her attorney fees.

It's sickening that companies would be willing to pay them for their story but it's not surprising. It's blood money.. plain and simple.

JMO

[brodysho]

Having a hard time staying awake working the graveyard shift tonight.

Does anyone know if and when TES will start searching again?

[crymeariver2006]

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Psychic Investigating Caylee Disappearance Now Under Investigation

http://www.wftv.com/video/17432761/index.html
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Not sure if anyone saw this. It looks intersting.

Yes, it looks interesting but you have to remember that the Anthonys and Baez are in full assault mode right now. There *may* be a totally different story than what some poster is wanting you to believe.

Pound of salt and all that jazz.

;)

[MyrDawn]

Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

#1 - I thought the "Son of Sam" law had been struck down. That is why the Rocha's are suing Scott Peterson because if he wanted to - he could sell his story and profit from it. From my research for that case - I remember reading that the Son of Sam law was struck down because the Supreme Court ruled that it interfered with our "freedom of speech".

Someone correct me if I am wrong about that but that's what I recall.. Or maybe it was just struck down in California.

#2 - Casey hasn't been convicted of a crime.. She hasn't even been charged with murder YET, so I don't think the "Son of Sam" clause would pertain to her as of right NOW... if the clause still exists.

#3 - if I am incorrect about #1 and #2 --- the GPs, George and Cindy, would be exempt from the Son of Sam law anyway, since they were NOT responsible for the crime (allegedly). So they could essentially sell the story and use the money to pay for her attorney fees.

It's sickening that companies would be willing to pay them for their story but it's not surprising. It's blood money.. plain and simple.

JMO

#1, Son of Sam laws are state law, not federal laws. The original New York law was struck down also, but various states (including New York) do now have laws to prevent felons from capitalizing on their crimes written with an eye towards adhering to the First Amendment ruling laid out by the Supreme Court. I don't know if Florida has a current Son of Sam law or not, but as far as I know, it hasn't been struck down. The California Son of Sam law was struck down in 2002.

#2 and #3 are correct. Nobody has been charged, much less convicted, of anything to do with Caylee's murder, so there's nothing to stop anyone from profiting by selling their rights to a book, movie, etc.

JMO

[mojito]

[QUOTE=aubrey04;12091034]Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

(snipped)

I think this whole money thing is a sad reflection of what our country has become. People used to be ashamed to be connected to anything criminal. It was the reason people were cut out of families, not given jobs, and thrown out of social circles. Now many people profit from their wrongdoing and somehow the money eases their consciences.
I can't imagine following this case for many more months because what we know will happen, will happen -- another breaking case will push Caylee to the back burner. Fewer searchers will show, TES will eventually pack up and leave, and after the dust settles there will sit Casey and her family moving on with their lives. It's a shame, but eventually that's what I see happening. :(

[MyrDawn]

I believe the LE has enough evidence to charge, and most likely convict Casey of at least 2nd degree murder in the death of Caylee. We haven't heard all the results of all the forensics tests. I believe they're holding off charging her for now, hoping to find her body. But, I don't think they'll just let it drop if they don't find her.

JMO

[mojito]

I believe the LE has enough evidence to charge, and most likely convict Casey of at least 2nd degree murder in the death of Caylee. We haven't heard all the results of all the forensics tests. I believe they're holding off charging her for now, hoping to find her body. But, I don't think they'll just let it drop if they don't find her.

JMO

I hope you're right. What bothers me is that we've heard other leaks about this and that (chloroform, presence of decomp), but noone has leaked anything about much else which makes me wonder if there's nothing else to say.

Good thing is that there's no statute of limitations on murder and bones have certainly been recovered many years later and presented as evidence. Of course the elephant in the room is that Casey will maintain that Zenaida did it. CASEY IS THE ONLY ONE WITH MOTIVATION THOUGH. I'm glad they at least have info about the web search for chloroform and info about a counselor visit from Cindy. I think it does strengthen the theory that Casey left mad with Caylee.

I'll never understand cases like this...

[farrahrani]

[QUOTE=aubrey04;12091034]Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

(snipped)

I think this whole money thing is a sad reflection of what our country has become. People used to be ashamed to be connected to anything criminal. It was the reason people were cut out of families, not given jobs, and thrown out of social circles. Now many people profit from their wrongdoing and somehow the money eases their consciences.
I can't imagine following this case for many more months because what we know will happen, will happen -- another breaking case will push Caylee to the back burner. Fewer searchers will show, TES will eventually pack up and leave, and after the dust settles there will sit Casey and her family moving on with their lives. It's a shame, but eventually that's what I see happening. :(

TES may get called to another case. One with a fresher trail, with a higher chance of rescuing a live person. Nobody knows what will happen. I doubt however that local searchers will ever stop, unless LE decides that they have covered enough ground as to eliminate any chance of finding her remains, or they have enough evidence to make charges.

However I doubt this case will ever be on the backburner as long as public outrage over the circumstances continue, and people continue to speak out and demand justice.

[chrissybot]

Yes, it looks interesting but you have to remember that the Anthonys and Baez are in full assault mode right now. There *may* be a totally different story than what some poster is wanting you to believe.

Pound of salt and all that jazz.

;)

I believe the LE has enough evidence to charge, and most likely convict Casey of at least 2nd degree murder in the death of Caylee. We haven't heard all the results of all the forensics tests. I believe they're holding off charging her for now, hoping to find her body. But, I don't think they'll just let it drop if they don't find her.

JMO
G'morning:seeya:-cry, I think that was just a hotel mistake & I think your right
Myr, I tend to agree with you too. I trust the LE, I don't trust the A's. We need some news soon!!

[joypath]

[QUOTE=mojito;12091095]

TES may get called to another case. One with a fresher trail, with a higher chance of rescuing a live person. Nobody knows what will happen. I doubt however that local searchers will ever stop, unless LE decides that they have covered enough ground as to eliminate any chance of finding her remains, or they have enough evidence to make charges.

However I doubt this case will ever be on the backburner as long as public outrage over the circumstances continue, and people continue to speak out and demand justice.



I so hope that this does not become "backburnered" and believe the outrageous behavior of the Anthony clan just might prevent that from happening! These media mavens will keep their drama "out there", assuming that they'll garner sympathy & maybe $ while those who barely knew/"know" Caylee will keep her in their hearts & minds. IMO, the "Anthony Action figures" have had a major blowout, backfire and are driving on rims, leaving sparks as they go & ppl better move aside or get incinerated/investigated/implicated!!!!!!.

[n/t]

Morning all

I don't know what to say except that I'm very sad and frustrated. We're approaching the 3 month mark since anyone last saw Caylee and we're nowhere closer to finding out what happened to her.

All we hear about is the circus. The hi fiving, the brownies, the garbage pickers and now the possible book deal and promotional tour or whatever the grandparents attorney is up to.

I just don't know anymore. I honestly believe that if they had enough evidence against her, they'd charge her.

Caylee :rose:

[CinTN]

GOOD MORNING :seeya: OYE its early ,, i start my new job today,, its gonna kill me not being by the puter,, but I will be able to check things out after 2 pm,, I hope they find something to nail that ( insert name here) ..

That was a good interview with Nate lastnight,, boy what a script ( jmo),, he did a good job..

I remember NG stating last night that criminals cannot profit from their crimes in the state of FL. Now like ya'll have said I dont thing that includes the GP's..


Pretty interesting that they all of a sudden hopped over to UCF area ,, I think they got a tip.. MO

[crymeariver2006]

And the media blitz tour begins:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

NeJames is comparing George and Cindy to families of POW/MIA's. IMO, that's not even a legitimate comparison. These families actually knew where their loved ones were serving and it wasn't that they were held captive by some nanny. I would use the puker, but it's still early.

:mad:

[Kathlb]

I think it's a crying shame that they are and will make money off the death and possible murder of this child. Cold, cruel and calculating. I can only keep hanging onto the faith that they will reap what they sow, every one of them. And I do have some control... I won't buy any books, I won't watch any movies and I won't watch any interviews as well as I will write to any sponsors of any television shows. That's just what I will do, not suggesting it for anyone else.

As for the website that is going to be going up for donations for Casey's defense fund, I don't think that will work for a minute. Remember Dru Peterson and his website. It didn't last but a couple of days before they gave up and took it down due to no interest in donating and also such bad press and reaction from people. JMHO

[MyrDawn]

Morning all

I don't know what to say except that I'm very sad and frustrated. We're approaching the 3 month mark since anyone last saw Caylee and we're nowhere closer to finding out what happened to her.

All we hear about is the circus. The hi fiving, the brownies, the garbage pickers and now the possible book deal and promotional tour or whatever the grandparents attorney is up to.

I just don't know anymore. I honestly believe that if they had enough evidence against her, they'd charge her.

Caylee :rose:

I makes it much easier to get a convition when a body is found. Since Casey isn't going anywhere, I don't think the LE is going to rush to charge her with murder. There is the right to a speedy trial to consider, so the LE normally wants to gather as much evidence as possible before charging the suspect. There are cases where the defendant was charge and aquitted, then evidence that probably would have brought a convition was found afterwards. With the double jeopardy law, those people couldn't be charged and tried again, and are walking around free as a bird.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Morning all

I don't know what to say except that I'm very sad and frustrated. We're approaching the 3 month mark since anyone last saw Caylee and we're nowhere closer to finding out what happened to her.

All we hear about is the circus. The hi fiving, the brownies, the garbage pickers and now the possible book deal and promotional tour or whatever the grandparents attorney is up to.

I just don't know anymore. I honestly believe that if they had enough evidence against her, they'd charge her.

Caylee :rose:

Don't give up hope. Talking to DH last night and he's always maintained that they only hope to find the body to bolster their case. He thinks that when push comes to shove, she will be charged with Murder 1, with or without the body. Seems like a long time for us, but remember she will, in all likelihood, be serving serious time for her current charges. Time is on the side of LE to continue searching.

That, and watching the Anthonys totally implode.....

[CinTN]

It was great hearing a different side of things last night from Nate,,
It shed a little more light on things as far as how she acted,, well not really light but I guess it just confirmed what alot of us have been reading.Its different when you actually hear it rather than read it..


But what got me is them saying that it will be hard now that so much time has passed to determine a cause of death.. The CH wont show up so the family will probably be cleared on that and go along with the " cleaning" theory.. That makes me mad!!:flamemad:

[Kathlb]

I makes it much easier to get a convition when a body is found. Since Casey isn't going anywhere, I don't think the LE is going to rush to charge her with murder. There is the right to a speedy trial to consider, so the LE normally wants to gather as much evidence as possible before charging the suspect. There are cases where the defendant was charge and aquitted, then evidence that probably would have brought a convition was found afterwards. With the double jeopardy law, those people couldn't be charged and tried again, and are walking around free as a bird.

JMO


As much as I want to see her back NOW, I think they also know that she will be back in November from her current charges. She won't be out long and they also may soon file more charges putting her back in. She'll get out again due to her folks, but just when she gets comfortable and cocky, she'll have to spend a couple of nights back in. And after November, she'll be in for good. They can then file murder charges any time while she is serving time for her current crimes. MOO

[henry]

gmorning . . . hope you've also read this site . . . she's ticked about $ on the table . . .

So, here's my plan: I propose that we start a worldwide Internet campaign against any outlet that pays Casey Anthony anything, even a single dollar, for an interview. We do this by monitoring the news to find out who the offenders are and then sending out e-mails to all our friends, asking them to tell all their friends, and so on, so on, warning everyone of this disgusting behavior, urging them not to watch whatever television program Anthony appears on. If there's money involved, turn the TV off! Maybe keep it off that channel/program even after the interview airs, just for good measure. Let these lowlifes know we mean business.

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2008/09/okay-now-im-seriously-ticked.html

[joypath]

Morning all

I don't know what to say except that I'm very sad and frustrated. We're approaching the 3 month mark since anyone last saw Caylee and we're nowhere closer to finding out what happened to her.

All we hear about is the circus. The hi fiving, the brownies, the garbage pickers and now the possible book deal and promotional tour or whatever the grandparents attorney is up to.

I just don't know anymore. I honestly believe that if they had enough evidence against her, they'd charge her.

Caylee :rose:

Keep the faith! I have a great belief in LE & the DA..most are hard working, honest individuals who want to better life by having justice and order prevail thru chaos. The inner workings of charging a case are complex, the more info available the better and just the behaviors you itemized will be/are fodder for LE to investigate & the DA to try use in trial.
From dealing with cases here, I've seen the LE committ to rounding up all parties involved. I'm sure they want each & every possible item of evidence, especially Caylee to provide whatever closure emotionally and "noose tighten" the perp (s). The stronger the case with "concrete evidence" as Cindy would say, the better; less possibility of a waltzing guilty perp.

Charges will be coming!.....We've been so spoiled by the quick resolution of crimes on TV shows that appear soooooooooo realistic!

JMHO

[MyrDawn]

GOOD MORNING :seeya: OYE its early ,, i start my new job today,, its gonna kill me not being by the puter,, but I will be able to check things out after 2 pm,, I hope they find something to nail that ( insert name here) ..

That was a good interview with Nate lastnight,, boy what a script ( jmo),, he did a good job..

I remember NG stating last night that criminals cannot profit from their crimes in the state of FL. Now like ya'll have said I dont thing that includes the GP's..


Pretty interesting that they all of a sudden hopped over to UCF area ,, I think they got a tip.. MO

Awwww...your job has the nerve to interfere with posting? How awful!

Nancy is right about not being able to profit from your crime in FL, per their Son of Sam law. But, they have to be convicted of the crime for that to be effective, and Casey hasn't even been charged with murder yet, so she could legally profit from selling her rights as of right now.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

It was great hearing a different side of things last night from Nate,,
It shed a little more light on things as far as how she acted,, well not really light but I guess it just confirmed what alot of us have been reading.Its different when you actually hear it rather than read it..


But what got me is them saying that it will be hard now that so much time has passed to determine a cause of death.. The CH wont show up so the family will probably be cleared on that and go along with the " cleaning" theory.. That makes me mad!!:flamemad:

I know that when Nate said that Caylee's favorite expression was "What up dude!" that made me want to cry.

He told us more about Caylee as a person than the Anthonys EVER have.

I'm not worried about anyone not being able to determine COD. If a body of a 2 year old is found in a swamp, it's a good bet that it wasn't from natural causes.

(Jiminy Christmas, am I the only seeing the glass half FULL this morning? J/K, I get bummed out too but I have faith that justice will be served, in its own time and nothing the Anthonys do can stop that.)

[CinTN]

gmorning . . . hope you've also read this site . . . she's ticked about $ on the table . . .

So, here's my plan: I propose that we start a worldwide Internet campaign against any outlet that pays Casey Anthony anything, even a single dollar, for an interview. We do this by monitoring the news to find out who the offenders are and then sending out e-mails to all our friends, asking them to tell all their friends, and so on, so on, warning everyone of this disgusting behavior, urging them not to watch whatever television program Anthony appears on. If there's money involved, turn the TV off! Maybe keep it off that channel/program even after the interview airs, just for good measure. Let these lowlifes know we mean business.

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2008/09/okay-now-im-seriously-ticked.html


IM IN !!! :beer:

Sounds like a plan

[febreze]

[QUOTE=Kathlb;12091120]I think it's a crying shame that they are and will make money off the death and possible murder of this child. Cold, cruel and calculating. I can only keep hanging onto the faith that they will reap what they sow, every one of them. And I do have some control... I won't buy any books, I won't watch any movies and I won't watch any interviews as well as I will write to any sponsors of any television shows. That's just what I will do, not suggesting it for anyone else.

JMHO
how would it be of any intrest? we've heard their lies and that is what a movie or book would be basted on, i certainly would have no intrest in reading it or watching the Zanny nanny movie, just another pack of lying on the Anthonys part. and they certainly are not going to tell the real truth.:shrug:

[henry]

IM IN !!! :beer:

Sounds like a plan


me too . . . just have to get a google account to log in to post on that site!

[CinTN]

Awwww...your job has the nerve to interfere with posting? How awful!

Nancy is right about not being able to profit from your crime in FL, per their Son of Sam law. But, they have to be convicted of the crime for that to be effective, and Casey hasn't even been charged with murder yet, so she could legally profit from selling her rights as of right now.

JMO

Im tellin ya ,, HOW DARE THEY interfere with my posting a crazy cam watching,, :eek:


I like how you said YET .. :D

[crymeariver2006]

We definitely need to let the sponsors of any such program know of our disgust. They need photos of their products in the trash.

I'm in too!

[n/t]

I makes it much easier to get a convition when a body is found. Since Casey isn't going anywhere, I don't think the LE is going to rush to charge her with murder. There is the right to a speedy trial to consider, so the LE normally wants to gather as much evidence as possible before charging the suspect. There are cases where the defendant was charge and aquitted, then evidence that probably would have brought a convition was found afterwards. With the double jeopardy law, those people couldn't be charged and tried again, and are walking around free as a bird.

JMO


I understand that but the longer they wait, the more the defense builds their case as well. Why do you think Baez hasn't invoked his right to a speedy trial? Look at what's happening. People taking garbage from the Anthonys as an example. Do you think if anything was found in that garbage bag and presented to LE as evidence, they can use it? No way. Also, I'm starting to question the real reason TES left. Don't get me wrong....I love Tim Miller and what he does for victims and their families but if they found anything, the defense could possibly use that as evidence against the search and claim it was planted by a volunteer searcher or it's contaminated or whatever.

The longer they wait, the risk just gets higher, imo.

I hope Tony, Amy and those who gave witness statements stay out of the media. It would be a disaster if they start to talk. All these folks like Nate and Clint coming out to get their 15 minutes is NOT helping. The defense can use these statements and prove inconsistencies. Clint said one thing, Nate says another. Get what I mean? We know they're watching and listening and trying to find any holes possible.

[SavannahStar]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed LynnGweeny hasn't been around? Have I missed her? :( She has a happy birthday thread over on Open Court.

[morson]

I think it's a crying shame that they are and will make money off the death and possible murder of this child. Cold, cruel and calculating. I can only keep hanging onto the faith that they will reap what they sow, every one of them. And I do have some control... I won't buy any books, I won't watch any movies and I won't watch any interviews as well as I will write to any sponsors of any television shows. That's just what I will do, not suggesting it for anyone else.

As for the website that is going to be going up for donations for Casey's defense fund, I don't think that will work for a minute. Remember Dru Peterson and his website. It didn't last but a couple of days before they gave up and took it down due to no interest in donating and also such bad press and reaction from people. JMHO

ITA

The Anthonys' behavior is totally despicable. Not only have they thrown Caylee under the bus in favor of Casey, but are using her murder as their "meal ticket". From day one they asked for donations, including gift cards, to search for Caylee. We all know how that search went. It boggles my mind that there are people out there who are so naive that they are still sending money to the Anthonys. What did P T Barnum say about fools? The word "grifter" in the dictionary will now have a picture of this family.

I really have never felt such animosity toward the family of a suspect. Usually, I feel some sympathy toward a suspect's family---right now, it would not bother me a bit, if all four of them got the DP! It is horrific, that NeJames (?) is going on a "publicity tour"--we have definitely reached a low point in jurisprudence.

I know that LE rarely charges members of the suspect's family, but I think they should make an exception in this case. C, G, and L have done everything possible to make this case as difficult as possible for LE and TES--and they don't even tell believable lies. I think they should be charged with AAF and perjury (if, they lied in their sworn statements--which, I believed they did). If they are not charged, can you imagine what the effects of that message will be? What will the next "family" do to protect some POS?

The fact that this family wants to make their fortune on the "blood money" of their granddaughter and niece tells me all I need to know about them. I would like to see NG and/or GVS do a show on this topic!

JMO

PS Can't find spell check

[cassidy]

And the media blitz tour begins:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

NeJames is comparing George and Cindy to families of POW/MIA's. IMO, that's not even a legitimate comparison. These families actually knew where their loved ones were serving and it wasn't that they were held captive by some nanny. I would use the puker, but it's still early.

:mad:

How sad a comparison is that. Cindy and George have a daughter who claims to know who has their granddaughter. She simply isn't telling anyone. HUGE DIFFERENCE and quite insulting to the families of POW/MIA's.

[CinTN]

FROM ARTICLE: ABOUT SEARCHERS

For those who want to help, they bless them, but there is another group of people who are searching for a living Caylee. . . . Just don't beat them up over it if they have hope that their granddaughter is still with us.

WHAT OTHER GROUP OF SEARCHERS? Why have we not heard of this before?

It could be a group of volunteers working with/thru LE ,, :shrug:

[JHP]

I understand that but the longer they wait, the more the defense builds their case as well. Why do you think Baez hasn't invoked his right to a speedy trial? Look at what's happening. People taking garbage from the Anthonys as an example. Do you think if anything was found in that garbage bag and presented to LE as evidence, they can use it? No way. Also, I'm starting to question the real reason TES left. Don't get me wrong....I love Tim Miller and what he does for victims and their families but if they found anything, the defense could possibly use that as evidence against the search and claim it was planted by a volunteer searcher or it's contaminated or whatever.

The longer they wait, the risk just gets higher, imo.

I hope Tony, Amy and those who gave witness statements stay out of the media. It would be a disaster if they start to talk. All these folks like Nate and Clint coming out to get their 15 minutes is NOT helping. The defense can use these statements and prove inconsistencies. Clint said one thing, Nate says another. Get what I mean? We know they're watching and listening and trying to find any holes possible.

IIRC Clint said Casey told them Caylee was with Grandma, Nate however had the Nanny story.

I wonder what kind of school they were attending? Anyone know?

[CinTN]

How sad a comparison is that. Cindy and George have a daughter who claims to know who has their granddaughter. She simply isn't telling anyone. HUGE DIFFERENCE and quite insulting to the families of POW/MIA's.


ITA 100% its sickening ...How dare they..

[crymeariver2006]

FROM ARTICLE: ABOUT SEARCHERS

For those who want to help, they bless them, but there is another group of people who are searching for a living Caylee. . . . Just don't beat them up over it if they have hope that their granddaughter is still with us.

WHAT OTHER GROUP OF SEARCHERS? Why have we not heard of this before?

1) Because they don't exist?

2) Because they are "working outside the normal scope of things"?

3) Because they are figments of Cindy's imagination?

We can rest assured that group doesn't include any of the Anthonys.

But my money's on #1.

[n/t]

Keep the faith! I have a great belief in LE & the DA..most are hard working, honest individuals who want to better life by having justice and order prevail thru chaos. The inner workings of charging a case are complex, the more info available the better and just the behaviors you itemized will be/are fodder for LE to investigate & the DA to try use in trial.
From dealing with cases here, I've seen the LE committ to rounding up all parties involved. I'm sure they want each & every possible item of evidence, especially Caylee to provide whatever closure emotionally and "noose tighten" the perp (s). The stronger the case with "concrete evidence" as Cindy would say, the better; less possibility of a waltzing guilty perp.

Charges will be coming!.....We've been so spoiled by the quick resolution of crimes on TV shows that appear soooooooooo realistic!

JMHO


I don't doubt LE is working around the clock. I don't doubt Tim Miller's dedication to find little Caylee's body. I don't doubt the posters on this board and other boards want justice for Caylee.

I won't mention the other cases where the perps are walking around when they should be in jail. The victim is still missing and the person responsible is carrying on like nothing happened.

Been there way too many times to know that justice is not always served. If LE is waiting for a confession or needs the body to charge her, it may never happen.

[Kathlb]

I wondered where Lynn is too. :shrug:

On a side note, I watched the cross examin. of Cindy last night again at the bond hearing and saw something that I missed the first time around that had me laughing outloud. At one point the woman asked her if Casey lived with her all the time and Cindy said yes, since she was born. (paraphrasing) And the woman said, "HOW OLD is she???" Cindy said 22. And the woman said something like "right".... Cindy got a horrible mean look on her face and cocked her head at the woman like "you want to make something out of it?" ROFL :D

JMHO always
For Little Caylee :rose:

[CinTN]

IIRC Clint said Casey told them Caylee was with Grandma, Nate however had the Nanny story.

I wonder what kind of school they were attending? Anyone know?

THE FLORIDA SCHOOL OF CASEYISUMS.. Come learn to lie with the best of them
:lol:

[~jomomma~]

good morning everyone!

i'm praying we hear something today!!

[n/t]

IIRC Clint said Casey told them Caylee was with Grandma, Nate however had the Nanny story.

I wonder what kind of school they were attending? Anyone know?

Exactly my point. And that's just one example. Someone brought up the time Tony went to pick up Casey at Amscot. Apparently, Clint said 7ish and Nate said between 11 and 1. This is from what I read on last night's thread.

I wish they would all shut up.

[MyrDawn]

I understand that but the longer they wait, the more the defense builds their case as well. Why do you think Baez hasn't invoked his right to a speedy trial? Look at what's happening. People taking garbage from the Anthonys as an example. Do you think if anything was found in that garbage bag and presented to LE as evidence, they can use it? No way. Also, I'm starting to question the real reason TES left. Don't get me wrong....I love Tim Miller and what he does for victims and their families but if they found anything, the defense could possibly use that as evidence against the search and claim it was planted by a volunteer searcher or it's contaminated or whatever.

The longer they wait, the risk just gets higher, imo.

I hope Tony, Amy and those who gave witness statements stay out of the media. It would be a disaster if they start to talk. All these folks like Nate and Clint coming out to get their 15 minutes is NOT helping. The defense can use these statements and prove inconsistencies. Clint said one thing, Nate says another. Get what I mean? We know they're watching and listening and trying to find any holes possible.

The right to a speedy trial doesn't take effect until the suspect is charged, and I believe arraigned. And, it's the defendant's right to a speedy trial, not the defense attorneys. Since Casey hasn't been charged with murder yet, so that speedy trial right is a moot point right now.

JMO

[trich]

Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

#1 - I thought the "Son of Sam" law had been struck down. That is why the Rocha's are suing Scott Peterson because if he wanted to - he could sell his story and profit from it. From my research for that case - I remember reading that the Son of Sam law was struck down because the Supreme Court ruled that it interfered with our "freedom of speech".

Someone correct me if I am wrong about that but that's what I recall.. Or maybe it was just struck down in California.

#2 - Casey hasn't been convicted of a crime.. She hasn't even been charged with murder YET, so I don't think the "Son of Sam" clause would pertain to her as of right NOW... if the clause still exists.

#3 - if I am incorrect about #1 and #2 --- the GPs, George and Cindy, would be exempt from the Son of Sam law anyway, since they were NOT responsible for the crime (allegedly). So they could essentially sell the story and use the money to pay for her attorney fees.

It's sickening that companies would be willing to pay them for their story but it's not surprising. It's blood money.. plain and simple.

JMO



I was wondering about the Son of Sam law too.
You know Nancy even said that anyone convicted of a crime even child neglect could not profit.
but I figured Cindy and George could always sell the story and the information we got last night may have really meant THEY were selling the story.
It is a sad state of affairs when someone will pay for that and worse yet that anyone would buy the book etc.
I guess we can always hope that if thius is done that the people paying will go broke.

I guess someone will always say it is their right but what about the morality of the whole thing.
Nobody in that family seems to want to do the RIGHT THING.
since Casey aparrantly has never been made accountable for anything she has done.

[JHP]

THE FLORIDA SCHOOL OF CASEYISUMS.. Come learn to lie with the best of them
:lol:

:lol: Now that is funny!

[crymeariver2006]

THE FLORIDA SCHOOL OF CASEYISUMS.. Come learn to lie with the best of them
:lol:

Nah, he didn't drop the F-bomb on Nancy Grace. :D

Seriously, didn't they attend the Full Sail school (something like that); arts, film.....

[Amy]

I think it's a crying shame that they are and will make money off the death and possible murder of this child. Cold, cruel and calculating. I can only keep hanging onto the faith that they will reap what they sow, every one of them. And I do have some control... I won't buy any books, I won't watch any movies and I won't watch any interviews as well as I will write to any sponsors of any television shows. That's just what I will do, not suggesting it for anyone else.

As for the website that is going to be going up for donations for Casey's defense fund, I don't think that will work for a minute. Remember Dru Peterson and his website. It didn't last but a couple of days before they gave up and took it down due to no interest in donating and also such bad press and reaction from people. JMHO

I'm wondering about the funds the Anthonys had set up for the search? Where did that money (if any was received) went? The public was assured (IIRC) that it would not be used for anything else, but, who was administering it, and where did it really go? (Cuz I'm thinking none was probably given to TES, else we would have heard about that?)

It sounds like they will be coming into plenty of money--why would people need to donate to a defense fund, when they could use the $millions they will receive from interviews, etc. Is it true that their "exlusive" w/20/20 got them $1M? That interview (never released videos, pics, etc) has already occured, so that should be money in the bank right now. The other deals haven't been finalized (that we know of for sure?) but one can suppose that @ least ONE of those deals will come to fruition. Heck, even MG only charged $1M--so it would seem that the Anthonys already have enough $$ for a defense team.

IMO

[CinTN]

I wondered where Lynn is too. :shrug:

On a side note, I watched the cross examin. of Cindy last night again at the bond hearing and saw something that I missed the first time around that had me laughing outloud. At one point the woman asked her if Casey lived with her all the time and Cindy said yes, since she was born. (paraphrasing) And the woman said, "HOW OLD is she???" Cindy said 22. And the woman said something like "right".... Cindy got a horrible mean look on her face and cocked her head at the woman like "you want to make something out of it?" ROFL :D

JMHO always
For Little Caylee :rose:

I just might go back and re watch them,, since time has gone by and we know more we just might be able to read more into their body language then when it was fresh ..

I did notice on interviews with Cindy like on GMA, she looks away from the camera alot.. Cant remember exactly what she was saying at the time but it was something to do with Caylee and when she answered she looked away from the camera on and off,, Like she was searching for the right lie.. I remember listening to people that read body language and thats a tell tail sign of a lie..

[CinTN]

Nah, he didn't drop the F-bomb on Nancy Grace. :D

Seriously, didn't they attend the Full Sail school (something like that); arts, film.....

Yeah something like that..

[trich]

Originally Posted by cassidy
How sad a comparison is that. Cindy and George have a daughter who claims to know who has their granddaughter. She simply isn't telling anyone. HUGE DIFFERENCE and quite insulting to the families of POW/MIA's.


ITA 100% its sickening ...How dare they..
__________________

Oh how I agree!
Not to mention that first .... Casey knew who had Caylee but now Cindy says she doesn't know where Caylee is.
They are consumate liars all of them all because they will not hold
Casey respsonsible or accountable.

[MichelleP]

I think it's a crying shame that they are and will make money off the death and possible murder of this child. Cold, cruel and calculating. I can only keep hanging onto the faith that they will reap what they sow, every one of them. And I do have some control... I won't buy any books, I won't watch any movies and I won't watch any interviews as well as I will write to any sponsors of any television shows. That's just what I will do, not suggesting it for anyone else.

As for the website that is going to be going up for donations for Casey's defense fund, I don't think that will work for a minute. Remember Dru Peterson and his website. It didn't last but a couple of days before they gave up and took it down due to no interest in donating and also such bad press and reaction from people. JMHO

I was interested in that too about the money that could be made. However it looks like that going to be as easy as it seems.

GRACE: Bremner, what do you make of the $1.5 million offer? You know, in Florida, a convicted felon cannot make money off the crime, including child neglect.

BREMNER: But the problem here -- she talked so much. The only way she gets a good book deal is if she tells where Caylee is.

GRACE: Oh believe me.

BREMNER: It`s like a Catch 22.

GRACE: By the time that comes around she`ll have a whole new story, Anne Bremner.

BREMNER: Well, yes, he`ll go all the way around. But, Nancy, the only way they`ll give her the money is if it`s going to sell. And it`s not going to sell if it`s the same thing we`re hearing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

That's a relief that she won't be making all that money.

[Amy]

I understand that but the longer they wait, the more the defense builds their case as well. Why do you think Baez hasn't invoked his right to a speedy trial? Look at what's happening. People taking garbage from the Anthonys as an example. Do you think if anything was found in that garbage bag and presented to LE as evidence, they can use it? No way. Also, I'm starting to question the real reason TES left. Don't get me wrong....I love Tim Miller and what he does for victims and their families but if they found anything, the defense could possibly use that as evidence against the search and claim it was planted by a volunteer searcher or it's contaminated or whatever.

The longer they wait, the risk just gets higher, imo.

I hope Tony, Amy and those who gave witness statements stay out of the media. It would be a disaster if they start to talk. All these folks like Nate and Clint coming out to get their 15 minutes is NOT helping. The defense can use these statements and prove inconsistencies. Clint said one thing, Nate says another. Get what I mean? We know they're watching and listening and trying to find any holes possible.

Baez hasn't invoked Casey's right to a speedy trial, because it seems the things she is charged with is coming up soon, and there are no murder charges filed yet to evoke a speedy trial on. IMO

[barskin&co.]

Exactly my point. And that's just one example. Someone brought up the time Tony went to pick up Casey at Amscot. Apparently, Clint said 7ish and Nate said between 11 and 1. This is from what I read on last night's thread.

I wish they would all shut up.


Oh, now details like that don't mean anything. This was an incident that happened weeks ago and didn't particularly mean anything at the time. It was in the morning; so what if they don't remember the exact time?

[trich]

Okay this goes back to yesterday's discussion about the CH drug and the fact that there were flies that flew out obviously alive when Tow guy & George opened the trunk. I just re-found the Cliff-Note to the Doc dump and yes it does say that about the flies. I thought so but had to re-check.

I have the link to the C-Notes but do not know if it is okay to post it. Read the rules.... Blah Blah Blah.......and something in my dyslexic self just keeps getting mixed up.

I can PM it though.........if anyone wants. Then if someone more rule sauvy than I chooses to, they could post it.

I want to add: I sure wish Nancy would ask Koby that question?.......How the heck could those flies have been alive?


I don't know how true this is but I read that the flies could have stayed alive by flying around in the upper part of the trunk while the chloroform was on the bottom.
Like I said not sure if that is a fact but it sounded good any how.

[CinTN]

Oh, now details like that don't mean anything. This was an incident that happened weeks ago and didn't particularly mean anything at the time. It was in the morning; so what if they don't remember the exact time?

So what does it say from everyone else about the time she called?

And what got me is that he said he has no idea what she was calling about.. everyone involved that has made a statement about that morning has said she called cause she ran out of gas,, he was coached no doubt about it..

[joypath]

And the media blitz tour begins:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

NeJames is comparing George and Cindy to families of POW/MIA's. IMO, that's not even a legitimate comparison. These families actually knew where their loved ones were serving and it wasn't that they were held captive by some nanny. I would use the puker, but it's still early.

:mad:

So true!

and deeper in the article is the statement that Never Loose Hope Foundation HIRED this DEFENSE ATTY for George and Cindy!

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/contact.html

They have a contact page, I plan to remind them daily what a disgrace it is to merge their high missioned (help FIND missing PERSONS)organization to the donkey tails of these two low missioned (protect Casey at all costs) multi-celled organisms! The last time I looked, George & Cindy were NOT missing (well, perhaps missing class, social grace, emotion control, common sense, comprehension skills....etc.)!


:cuss::flamemad:

[Regina.Lampert]

[QUOTE=farrahrani;12091103]



I so hope that this does not become "backburnered" and believe the outrageous behavior of the Anthony clan just might prevent that from happening! These media mavens will keep their drama "out there", assuming that they'll garner sympathy & maybe $ while those who barely knew/"know" Caylee will keep her in their hearts & minds. IMO, the "Anthony Action figures" have had a major blowout, backfire and are driving on rims, leaving sparks as they go & ppl better move aside or get incinerated/investigated/implicated!!!!!!.

Love it!

I too see all the anthonys as very destructive people but I have a different take on who ultimately is going to pay the price. I believe that cynthia and george are partly to blame for the type of human into which casey anthony has evolved, thru their enabling. Acting when it was too late by kicking her out of the home and not filing for Caylee before they took that action, has resulted in the nightmare they have now, imo.

cynthia and george are well aware of the monster they have living with them, they always have been, imo. At some point this fact will implode what's left of that family, because this situation will never get better, only worse. Life as they know it is over, forever.

I am firmly convinced that Justice will be served in this case, despite how much money this family makes off of Caylee's death.

[CinTN]

Well Im out for a while have to get ready for work ,, everyone have a great day .. :seeya:

FOR CAYLEE :rose:

[kOOkie1]

[QUOTE=joypath;12091113]

Love it!

I too see all the anthonys as very destructive people but I have a different take on who ultimately is going to pay the price. I believe that cynthia and george are partly to blame for the type of human into which casey anthony has evolved, thru their enabling. Acting when it was too late by kicking her out of the home and not filing for Caylee before they took that action, has resulted in the nightmare they have now, imo.

cynthia and george are well aware of the monster they have living with them, they always have been, imo. At some point this fact will implode what's left of that family, because this situation will never get better, only worse. Life as they know it is over, forever.

I am firmly convinced that Justice will be served in this case, despite how much money this family makes off of Caylee's death.

..So very tru!! When reality hits them its going to hit hard!!..

[FrankieBones1]

Good Morning, peeps! Here are the links to the live web cams.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[bcrmom]

So what does it say from everyone else about the time she called?

And what got me is that he said he has no idea what she was calling about.. everyone involved that has made a statement about that morning has said she called cause she ran out of gas,, he was coached no doubt about it..

I think it is important what time she called Tony cuz she had groceries, yet her car was there at 7-7:30AM according to the tow yard.

Anyhoo, what I got from what the guy last night said about the call is that he knew her car broke down, but since he didn't hear the details from her directly, and she didn't ask either of them to go fix it, he wasn't going to repeat what Tony said about what she told him. I thought he was bright and being very careful not to be misleading or give second-hand info. I could be wrong.

[barskin&co.]

IIRC Clint said Casey told them Caylee was with Grandma, Nate however had the Nanny story.

I wonder what kind of school they were attending? Anyone know?

Full Sail University. It is a school concentrating on media, film, theatre (etc.) education.

http://www.fullsail.edu/index.cfm?mnc=210&kw=full%20sail%20orlando&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=full%20sail%20orlando&utm_content=home&utm_campaign=Branded

[AMS]

Morning all

I don't know what to say except that I'm very sad and frustrated. We're approaching the 3 month mark since anyone last saw Caylee and we're nowhere closer to finding out what happened to her.

All we hear about is the circus. The hi fiving, the brownies, the garbage pickers and now the possible book deal and promotional tour or whatever the grandparents attorney is up to.

I just don't know anymore. I honestly believe that if they had enough evidence against her, they'd charge her.

Caylee :rose:


I agree n/t. I haven't been on the board much lately because I am sad and angry. Casey and her parents are despicable creatures who are doing everything but look for Caylee. IMO.

I think LE would bring additional charges against her if they had evidence. They would stop the circus if they could. IMO.

The book deal put me over the top. Tell her story? What story? She claims she knows nothing. She hasn't shared enough information to write a paragraph, let alone a book. IMO.

I"m sorry - just fed up.

For Caylee :rose:

[bookie]

Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

#1 - I thought the "Son of Sam" law had been struck down. That is why the Rocha's are suing Scott Peterson because if he wanted to - he could sell his story and profit from it. From my research for that case - I remember reading that the Son of Sam law was struck down because the Supreme Court ruled that it interfered with our "freedom of speech".

Someone correct me if I am wrong about that but that's what I recall.. Or maybe it was just struck down in California.

#2 - Casey hasn't been convicted of a crime.. She hasn't even been charged with murder YET, so I don't think the "Son of Sam" clause would pertain to her as of right NOW... if the clause still exists.

#3 - if I am incorrect about #1 and #2 --- the GPs, George and Cindy, would be exempt from the Son of Sam law anyway, since they were NOT responsible for the crime (allegedly). So they could essentially sell the story and use the money to pay for her attorney fees.

It's sickening that companies would be willing to pay them for their story but it's not surprising. It's blood money.. plain and simple.

JMO



I believe Florida still has a version of the Son of Sam law on the books but it's moot at this point. No one involved has been convicted of a crime so that law wouldn't pertain to them. If Casey is arrested, tried and convicted for murdering Caylee she wouldn't be able to profit from the crime. The police have repeatedly said the grandparents aren't suspects so they can sell their story if they choose to.

[Ladyhawk]

I think it is important what time she called Tony cuz she had groceries, yet her car was there at 7-7:30AM according to the tow yard.

Anyhoo, what I got from what the guy last night said about the call is that he knew her car broke down, but since he didn't hear the details from her directly, and she didn't ask either of them to go fix it, he wasn't going to repeat what Tony said about what she told him. I thought he was bright and being very careful not to be misleading or give second-hand info. I could be wrong.

When looking at the businesses in the neighborhood of Amscot, there's a CVS where she might have bought a few groceries and it looked like there was a fast food place to the right where she could have had some breakfast while she waited before she called. What is most interesting is something we haven't heard the result of yet and that is the financial transactions from the Amscot. IIR LE has requested this information and I know there has been talk here about whether Casey cashed a check at Amscot or not. Maybe there will be additional check charges. When I think about these things I realize there is so very much more that we don't know.

Did Nate have an interview in the 400+ documents?

[Regina.Lampert]

Testing, testing, testing......

[barskin&co.]

I agree n/t. I haven't been on the board much lately because I am sad and angry. Casey and her parents are despicable creatures who are doing everything but look for Caylee. IMO.

I think LE would bring additional charges against her if they had evidence. They would stop the circus if they could. IMO.

The book deal put me over the top. Tell her story? What story? She claims she knows nothing. She hasn't shared enough information to write a paragraph, let alone a book. IMO.

I"m sorry - just fed up.

For Caylee :rose:

Hey, look on the bright side: That $1 MIL offer must be exquisite torture for Casey. Can you imagine how much she, in her larcenous heart, would like to take that deal? And of course, she cannot. The last thing she can do is go public, on the record, with the old or the new set of ridiculous lies. Her defense has a rough enough time with the signed handwritten piece of fiction and the BS she told the police on July 16.

[bookie]

I was interested in that too about the money that could be made. However it looks like that going to be as easy as it seems.

GRACE: Bremner, what do you make of the $1.5 million offer? You know, in Florida, a convicted felon cannot make money off the crime, including child neglect.

BREMNER: But the problem here -- she talked so much. The only way she gets a good book deal is if she tells where Caylee is.

GRACE: Oh believe me.

BREMNER: It`s like a Catch 22.

GRACE: By the time that comes around she`ll have a whole new story, Anne Bremner.

BREMNER: Well, yes, he`ll go all the way around. But, Nancy, the only way they`ll give her the money is if it`s going to sell. And it`s not going to sell if it`s the same thing we`re hearing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

That's a relief that she won't be making all that money.


Someone will still offer to pay her for her story. It doesn't matter how many times she's told it. What you posted is just Anne Bremner's opinion.

[dmh]

Good Morning:
Just thinking out loud. If casey did sell Caylee, could casey be up on more and longer charges for putting her daughter on the black market? And also not just negelect? Maybe that is why ca and ga are insisting Caylee is alive. Maybe Casey told the parents that is just what she did and the parents are covering up so no more then neglect charges can be put againts casey. We all know casey was desperate for money
We all see casey is not showing any remorse and not active in the search for Caylee. And seems to have money all the time. It was just a matter of time before the stolen money was reported, and she would be out of money.
As for the cloroform,it could be she just wanted Caylee to go to sleep so she can party
Was Calee's clothes, diapers etc. in her back pack there or missing? If the clothes were missing could the grandp put new clothes in there?
As for the decop found in the trunk be just a scare tactic by the police?
Just thinking....but I so beleive Casey is murder Caylee:shrug:

[spiritwolf46]

I agree n/t. I haven't been on the board much lately because I am sad and angry. Casey and her parents are despicable creatures who are doing everything but look for Caylee. IMO.

I think LE would bring additional charges against her if they had evidence. They would stop the circus if they could. IMO.

The book deal put me over the top. Tell her story? What story? She claims she knows nothing. She hasn't shared enough information to write a paragraph, let alone a book. IMO.

I"m sorry - just fed up.

For Caylee :rose:

ITA. I have not spent as much time on here as I have on the past either just for these reasons.

I just cannot stomach these people much longer. They truly are dispicable and I loathe them.

This IS the place to find out what is going on, though. MANY great posters here and I will lurk or check in for updates and an every once in a while post, but is about all I can handle anymore.

Let's pray that today will be the day that Caylee will come home for her proper burial. :rose:

[dixielover]

So true!

and deeper in the article is the statement that Never Loose Hope Foundation HIRED this DEFENSE ATTY for George and Cindy!

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/contact.html

They have a contact page, I plan to remind them daily what a disgrace it is to merge their high missioned (help FIND missing PERSONS)organization to the donkey tails of these two low missioned (protect Casey at all costs) multi-celled organisms! The last time I looked, George & Cindy were NOT missing (well, perhaps missing class, social grace, emotion control, common sense, comprehension skills....etc.)!


:cuss::flamemad:

I was wondering about this foundation and why they would be paying for a high price attorney when the mother of the person missing knows the person who has her. Maybe we all should send this a polite message asking these questions. I wonder if the people donating to this organization knows that is how they are spending their money. imo

[barskin&co.]

When looking at the businesses in the neighborhood of Amscot, there's a CVS where she might have bought a few groceries and it looked like there was a fast food place to the right where she could have had some breakfast while she waited before she called. What is most interesting is something we haven't heard the result of yet and that is the financial transactions from the Amscot. IIR LE has requested this information and I know there has been talk here about whether Casey cashed a check at Amscot or not. Maybe there will be additional check charges. When I think about these things I realize there is so very much more that we don't know.

Did Nate have an interview in the 400+ documents?

I think in terms of Amy's checks, we have heard it all. They checks so far listed have totalled about $750 which Amy has claimed to have cleaned out her bank account.

[concernedmom]

Hey, look on the bright side: That $1 MIL offer must be exquisite torture for Casey. Can you imagine how much she, in her larcenous heart, would like to take that deal? And of course, she cannot. The last thing she can do is go public, on the record, with the old or the new set of ridiculous lies. Her defense has a rough enough time with the signed handwritten piece of fiction and the BS she told the police on July 16.

Baez has his work cut out defending Casey.
The strongest point he has will be she left Caylee with one of 500 ZF and LE wont look for her.

[barskin&co.]

Good Morning:
Just thinking out loud. If casey did sell Caylee, could casey be up on more and longer charges for putting her daughter on the black market? And also not just negelect? Maybe that is why ca and ga are insisting Caylee is alive. Maybe Casey told the parents that is just what she did and the parents are covering up so no more then neglect charges can be put againts casey. We all know casey was desperate for money
We all see casey is not showing any remorse and not active in the search for Caylee. And seems to have money all the time. It was just a matter of time before the stolen money was reported, and she would be out of money.
As for the cloroform,it could be she just wanted Caylee to go to sleep so she can party
Was Calee's clothes, diapers etc. in her back pack there or missing? If the clothes were missing could the grandp put new clothes in there?
As for the decop found in the trunk be just a scare tactic by the police?
Just thinking....but I so beleive Casey is murder Caylee:shrug:

I truly do not believe for a moment that the police are trying to deceive the public about decomposition in the trunk as a "scare tactic."
Nor, do I believe Casey was scared of her thefts being found out, so she needed to sell Caylee. Her major theft, the embezzlement of thousands of dollars from her grandmother's bank account, was already discovered and repaid from Cindy's 401K. Casey never feared consequences from her actions, as she never seemed to have to face them.

[deep*fear]

Can the police legally take a bag off the sidewalk and use any of it as evidence?
Yes they can.
Yesterday I posted a link regarding a man that was caught 31 years later b/c of dna on a discarded cigarette. (The curb is public domain, that's why the Anthonys couldn't have had 'trashlady' arrested)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2007/10/04/2007-10-04_dna_from_cigarette_butt_may_nail_76s_alp-2.html

[marinewife5]

Baez has his work cut out defending Casey.
The strongest point he has will be she left Caylee with one of 500 ZF and LE wont look for her.

heck, even taking her missing daughter out of the mix, she is building up the check cashing charges. and i believe when the foundation funding the atty for george and cindy starts to lose donation funds, they may rethink their actions. not all non-profits and children's charities are deserving of our hard-earned money...there are several others that would put donations to good use, not the anthony's use. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

I was wondering about this foundation and why they would be paying for a high price attorney when the mother of the person missing knows the person who has her. Maybe we all should send this a polite message asking these questions. I wonder if the people donating to this organization knows that is how they are spending their money. imo


I wrote them. :D

[Ladyhawk]

I think in terms of Amy's checks, we have heard it all. They checks so far listed have totalled about $750 which Amy has claimed to have cleaned out her bank account.

Weren't Amy's checks done after the car was left at Amscot? I was thinking more along the lines of a George and Cindy check.

[why-me]

Full Sail University. It is a school concentrating on media, film, theatre (etc.) education.

http://www.fullsail.edu/index.cfm?mnc=210&kw=full%20sail%20orlando&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=full%20sail%20orlando&utm_content=home&utm_campaign=Branded

Sons best friend went there several years ago

[dixielover]

why do they even need a defense attorney??

I just left my polite message-they probably are a great organization but asked why get involved with the Anthony's who have admitted that Casey knows who took her child. imo

[Regina.Lampert]

Someone will still offer to pay her for her story. It doesn't matter how many times she's told it. What you posted is just Anne Bremner's opinion.

I disagree. The only thing people want out of casey
anthony is the truth, it's the only thing worth paying for and that
will never be forthcoming, imo.

[Velouria]

How sad a comparison is that. Cindy and George have a daughter who claims to know who has their granddaughter. She simply isn't telling anyone. HUGE DIFFERENCE and quite insulting to the families of POW/MIA's.


Agreed Cassidy. Wow, I'm having trouble choking down my first cup of coffee after reading that article.

I wish someone had asked Mr. NeJame the hard questions. Like what percentage of victims do you know who bail out their perpetrators and give them a place to stay, or is it true that George and Cindy used "donations" to bail out Casey and were those donations in fact earmarked for Caylee's trust?

Methinks he would respond in the typical lawyerese. :rolleyes:

[cutiepatootie61]

When looking at the businesses in the neighborhood of Amscot, there's a CVS where she might have bought a few groceries and it looked like there was a fast food place to the right where she could have had some breakfast while she waited before she called. What is most interesting is something we haven't heard the result of yet and that is the financial transactions from the Amscot. IIR LE has requested this information and I know there has been talk here about whether Casey cashed a check at Amscot or not. Maybe there will be additional check charges. When I think about these things I realize there is so very much more that we don't know.

Did Nate have an interview in the 400+ documents?

See below that financial records for Casey via Amscot were submitted into evidence, safe to say she cashed at least one check.
Also, there was no interview or mention of Nate in the docs.

Pg. 206
A subpoena was served to Amscot Financial for records involving Casey Anthony. On the same day (July24) financial records were received and were submitted into evidence.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf)

[crymeariver2006]

Weren't Amy's checks done after the car was left at Amscot? I was thinking more along the lines of a George and Cindy check.

Or anybody else that may not have realized as of 7/15 that they had checks missing.

But later discovered it when they got their cancelled checks (or a copy of a suspicious check).

Amy is just the only one that we know about. For right now.

[barskin&co.]

Weren't Amy's checks done after the car was left at Amscot? I was thinking more along the lines of a George and Cindy check.

Yeah, you're right. I don't know that she stole checks from G & C. Just a lot of credit card charges or cash advances, but, it certainly wouldn't be surprising if there were checks, as well.
Casey is a very enterprising thief. Living as she does at the moment, without being able to steal, must be very frustrating for her.

[bookie]

I disagree. The only thing people want out of casey
anthony is the truth, it's the only thing worth paying for and that
will never be forthcoming, imo.


People looking to make a profit (and I'm referring to the media) don't necessarily care about the truth. They care about the bottom line and what sells. It's all about profit. Look at the Globe and National Enquirer. They've made billions off of lies.

[barskin&co.]

Or anybody else that may not have realized as of 7/15 that they had checks missing.

But later discovered it when they got their cancelled checks (or a copy of a suspicious check).

Amy is just the only one that we know about. For right now.

You are probably right. With Casey, she saw, she stole.

[barskin&co.]

See below that financial records for Casey via Amscot were submitted into evidence, safe to say she cashed at least one check.
Also, there was no interview or mention of Nate in the docs.

Pg. 206
A subpoena was served to Amscot Financial for records involving Casey Anthony. On the same day (July24) financial records were received and were submitted into evidence.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf)


Oh, I love that link, Cutie! It has the documents with a table of contents.

[Ladyhawk]

I wrote them. :D
You may want to also contact Citylinks 4Charities, Inc. which is the organization providing oversight and allocation of all funding for the activities for NLH. NLH doesn't have their 501C3 from the IRS yet.

I believe NLH is the organization that provided the reverse 911 notice that GA used when he did that telephone blitz recently.

[dmh]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer

[cutiepatootie61]

Oh, I love that link, Cutie! It has the documents with a table of contents.


I agree barskin, much easier to navigate through then the rest of the links to the docs.

[barskin&co.]

that is exactly right!! I would love to know whats going through her wicked mind about that money!!


One posssibility: "Maybe I can make the deal, cut off this ankle monitor and high-tail it to Brazil! Wheeeeee!"

[spiritwolf46]

Does anyone know when Casey will be going to court on the charges that are on her now?

TIA! :seeya:

[barskin&co.]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer

There is nothing to protest. She is allowed to spend as much time at her lawyer's as she wants. :(

[cutiepatootie61]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer

It's her Constitutional right to see her atty. I agree it is excessive, but the law affords her that. Nothing can or will be done about it. Hate it when the perp/suspect's rights are valued higher than the victim's but unfortunately, it is the law of the land.

[joolz]

I was wondering about this foundation and why they would be paying for a high price attorney when the mother of the person missing knows the person who has her. Maybe we all should send this a polite message asking these questions. I wonder if the people donating to this organization knows that is how they are spending their money. imo


That is a GREAT point! According to George, the kidnappers are being watched. According to Cindy, Casey isn't upset because she knows Caylee is safe. According to Casey, well, never mind.

It's a good question to ask the foundation: Why spend contributed money from people who really care about missing children when Caylee isn't really missing?
jmo as always

[IfIMay]

I was wondering about this foundation and why they would be paying for a high price attorney when the mother of the person missing knows the person who has her. Maybe we all should send this a polite message asking these questions. I wonder if the people donating to this organization knows that is how they are spending their money. imo

I just sent them a note and then the site said it's down for maintenance...lol. Maybe several of us sent one?

[Ladyhawk]

Oh, I love that link, Cutie! It has the documents with a table of contents.

Me too Cutie.....thank you very much!

[why-me]

There is nothing to protest. She is allowed to spend as much time at her lawyer's as she wants. :(

Isn't it in her court records that she is allowed out for church, yeah right, school, another yeah right and attorney visits minus the brownies, isn't that bribery?

[OneUp]

Good morning. I can't sleep...

I am bringing this post over from the earlier thread:



I have seen other people write posts like this and I wanted to address it. I think a few things would make it possible for Casey and the Anthony's to profit from the crime.

#1 - I thought the "Son of Sam" law had been struck down. That is why the Rocha's are suing Scott Peterson because if he wanted to - he could sell his story and profit from it. From my research for that case - I remember reading that the Son of Sam law was struck down because the Supreme Court ruled that it interfered with our "freedom of speech".

Someone correct me if I am wrong about that but that's what I recall.. Or maybe it was just struck down in California.

#2 - Casey hasn't been convicted of a crime.. She hasn't even been charged with murder YET, so I don't think the "Son of Sam" clause would pertain to her as of right NOW... if the clause still exists.

#3 - if I am incorrect about #1 and #2 --- the GPs, George and Cindy, would be exempt from the Son of Sam law anyway, since they were NOT responsible for the crime (allegedly). So they could essentially sell the story and use the money to pay for her attorney fees.

It's sickening that companies would be willing to pay them for their story but it's not surprising. It's blood money.. plain and simple.

JMOMorning all! ...Aubrey!:seeya:( my oldest is Audrey...gets called Aubrey constantly.)
I am just sick over the profiteering too. My thought was that it is the fact that no charges are in yet that allows the $ mongering, and that the G-parents have no charges pending. I believe that is why Casey is not yet profiting, Baez is "holding" those offers as he knows she wouldn't get to keep them if convicted...not to mention the public outcry which is bad enough now. If people find out she actually made a million, she had better be free to go into hiding. IMO her life would definitely be at risk. AFAIK, Son of Sam has been challenged a few times, but is currently standing. Maybe I can find out for sure on the net later, or maybe a law student here knows?
I honestly don't know how they could live with themselves just back when they were in the intial "Protect Casey Mode"...now that they are selling out Caylees life for profit I can't even muster any real sympathy for them. Hopefully, if they are more than just flush inn the end, the SD, TES, and other agencies that gave of so much effort and funding can sue to recoup some expenses. Like what happened in the Runaway Bride fiasco. I also bet plenty of folks will be calling the IRS to advise them to keep tabs on the Anthony finances.
The funny thing is, if I thought the $ would actually be earmarked mainly for TES, KidFinders, and the like I'd be cheering them on...at least a child would benefit and something positive would be made of this tragedy.
I guess Casey's dreams of fame and fortune have come true. And all at theincidental expense of murdering her child.:mad: Disgusting!
JMO.
:rose:God Bless you Caylee, you have a special place in my heart.

[AnnInOhio]

Okay this goes back to yesterday's discussion about the CH drug and the fact that there were flies that flew out obviously alive when Tow guy & George opened the trunk. I just re-found the Cliff-Note to the Doc dump and yes it does say that about the flies. I thought so but had to re-check.

I have the link to the C-Notes but do not know if it is okay to post it. Read the rules.... Blah Blah Blah.......and something in my dyslexic self just keeps getting mixed up.

I can PM it though.........if anyone wants. Then if someone more rule sauvy than I chooses to, they could post it.

I want to add: I sure wish Nancy would ask Koby that question?.......How the heck could those flies have been alive?

I'm not sure what you mean by the Cliff-Note (so PM me the link) but wasn't there an old pizza in the trunk when it was recovered? That would draw flies (pizza was probably planted by Casey - why else is a half eaten pizza left in a trunk?? - to cover the body smell. I think she intentionally ran the car out of gas so it would sit with the pizza in it for awhile to cover the body smell she couldn't get rid of.)

[bookie]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer


She has the right to help prepare her defense and she has quite a few charges against her right now.

[dmh]

There is nothing to protest. She is allowed to spend as much time at her lawyer's as she wants. :(

Then have the lawyer come to her house? It would be much easier then having to watch casey going back and forth every day. I am sure there could be a private place for the lawyer and casey to talk.:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer


Apparently, LEGALLY, she is not violating any terms of her bond agreement. Why protest? :confused:

[WinnieLeigh7]

UGH, no way can I get caught up, so I'll appreciate any 'cliff notes' on current matters, if there are any.

Fell asleep during NG last night, saw part of Nate's interview.

What's up with the investigation of I guess BodyHunters?!?!! Saw that on the link page, but can't get video at work.

Heard on NG while my eyes were growing heavy about a new "area of interest" to search, anymore news on that??

Or the clothing and bones (thought to be a bird) from yesterday??

[joolz]

You may want to also contact Citylinks 4Charities, Inc. which is the organization providing oversight and allocation of all funding for the activities for NLH. NLH doesn't have their 501C3 from the IRS yet.

I believe NLH is the organization that provided the reverse 911 notice that GA used when he did that telephone blitz recently.


Can you explain the reverse 911 thing to me? I read it on their website and really don't understand it. How does a telephone blitz work, and who does it go to? :confused:
TYIA

[WinnieLeigh7]

Oh, and Good Mornin' All :seeya:

Happy Hump Day

[crymeariver2006]

You may want to also contact Citylinks 4Charities, Inc. which is the organization providing oversight and allocation of all funding for the activities for NLH. NLH doesn't have their 501C3 from the IRS yet.

I believe NLH is the organization that provided the reverse 911 notice that GA used when he did that telephone blitz recently.

Yes, the reverse 911 is clearly mentioned in their mission statement.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/about.html

However, the hiring of high profile defense attorneys for a POI or members of their family is NOT.

And yet we have this statement from the Orlando Sentinel:

Orlando-based missing-children's organization Never Lose Hope Foundation hired NeJame to help the couple.

Clearly someone is lying. Is it NeJames?

[concernedmom]

She has the right to help prepare her defense and she has quite a few charges against her right now.

Even tho she is probably taking advantage and using this to stay out of the house and away from Cindy, its best to let her have it. Dont need a technicality such as she was deprived of her right to prepare a proper defense messing up this case.

[cutiepatootie61]

<p>From the documents:</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Pg. 32 regarding 1 short phone call from Zanny on 6/12, she says Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando or if she is ever going to bring her home.</p> <p> </p> <p>Obviously, they were still going with the June 9 date for Caylee's disappearance when these statements were taken, but what do you make of Casey stating that Caylee was no longer in Orlando per Zanni? Is this a clue that Caylee is not in Orlando? or a means to send the search for her outside of Orlando (where she most likely is)?</p>

[Ladyhawk]

Then have the lawyer come to her house? It would be much easier then having to watch casey going back and forth every day. I am sure there could be a private place for the lawyer and casey to talk.:shrug:

I think they are beginning to believe that the Anthony's home is bugged....speculation is they have been reading the boards since printouts from WS were discovered in their garbage so they might have got that crazy idea from a message board.

[why-me]

If for some unforeseen reason she gets that money, I can't imagine where she will be able to go to live and spend it. Look at the "protesters" are now, she will be treated much worse than any sex offender trying to find a place to live. Besides, ill gotten gains are just that, much like a huge curse, especially in this case. JMO

[barskin&co.]

Then have the lawyer come to her house? It would be much easier then having to watch casey going back and forth every day. I am sure there could be a private place for the lawyer and casey to talk.:shrug:
But, by the terms of her "house arrest" she is allowed to go to her lawyer's office. Again, I am telling you, as much as it disturbs us, she is allowed to do this, and that's that.

Listen, I (and you) hate the fact that she bonded out at all. But, remember:

A) She is stuck spending every night, all night, with Cindy and George. This is something that she must hate.
B) She can never see friends from her care-free days; all these people know she is a liar who partied while her child was gone.
C) She cannot go out clubbing and drink, etc.
D) She cannot steal anything.

In her mind, her life must be miserable.

[cutiepatootie61]

<p>From the documents:</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Pg. 32 regarding 1 short phone call from Zanny on 6/12, she says Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando or if she is ever going to bring her home.</p> <p> </p> <p>Obviously, they were still going with the June 9 date for Caylee's disappearance when these statements were taken, but what do you make of Casey stating that Caylee was no longer in Orlando per Zanni? Is this a clue that Caylee is not in Orlando? or a means to send the search for her outside of Orlando (where she most likely is)?</p>

Good Lawd, don't know what happened to my post, I tried to edit it and all kinds of things were inserted. Will do it over. From the docs:
Pg. 32 regarding 1 short phone call from Zanny on 6/12, she says Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando or if she is ever going to bring her home. Could she have been giving a clue that Caylee is not in Orlando, or trying to push the search anywhere but Orlando?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[crymeariver2006]

Can you explain the reverse 911 thing to me? I read it on their website and really don't understand it. How does a telephone blitz work, and who does it go to? :confused:
TYIA


It's a phone bank that automatically dials the numbers of people living in the immediate area of where the child was last seen, who they were with - sort of like a telephone Amber Alert. It is a pre-recorded message with phone numbers for tips, a description of the child, clothing, birthmarks, etc.

It was used, IIRC, in the Jessica Lunsford case.

It works best when it is implemented immediately upon notification to LE that a child is missing. I'm not sure what good it did in this case as there was a 31 day delay.

[Ladyhawk]

Can you explain the reverse 911 thing to me? I read it on their website and really don't understand it. How does a telephone blitz work, and who does it go to? :confused:
TYIA

This link explains it way better than I can....

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/about.html

[shelbar53]

Since the new high profile lawyer is planning a big media blitz today, do you think there will be a new "leak" to kind of counter anything?

[barskin&co.]

If for some unforeseen reason she gets that money, I can't imagine where she will be able to go to live and spend it. Look at the "protesters" are now, she will be treated much worse than any sex offender trying to find a place to live. Besides, ill gotten gains are just that, much like a huge curse, especially in this case. JMO

In her fantasies, she is probably taking that money and flying down to Rio.

[dixielover]

Yes, the reverse 911 is clearly mentioned in their mission statement.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/about.html

However, the hiring of high profile defense attorneys for a POI or members of their family is NOT.

And yet we have this statement from the Orlando Sentinel:

Orlando-based missing-children's organization Never Lose Hope Foundation hired NeJame to help the couple.

Clearly someone is lying. Is it NeJames?

Is this the same organization that provided GA with the billboard. I read or heard somewhere that GA told reporter that he was going to drive it into Georgia and the other surrounding states but instead drove it to a parking lot and parked it. Is that true? imo

[AnnInOhio]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I get that and that is a good idea........Yet do remember anything she says can and will be used against her.

That's my thought...let her sing to as many outlets as possible, telling more and more lies to be confronted with which will only hurt her in court. Let the networks and rag magazines pay to interrogate her rather than the good people of Florida, as long as it's on tape that can be subpoenaed. When she's out and comfortable and feeling invincible is when she's gonna slip. We don't have to buy the product(s), but by all means let her sing because if she does no amount of money is gonna be enough for her family to save her from herself, and sadly I think it's too late to save Caylee.

[dmh]

thanks for all the feed back....much appreciated:seeya:

[cutiepatootie61]

Since the new high profile lawyer is planning a big media blitz today, do you think there will be a new "leak" to kind of counter anything?


Good question Shelbar, to this point any "leaks" or information released have come on the tail end of an Anthony spin, so perhaps you may be onto something. Stay tuned.....

[why-me]

UGH, no way can I get caught up, so I'll appreciate any 'cliff notes' on current matters, if there are any.

Fell asleep during NG last night, saw part of Nate's interview.

What's up with the investigation of I guess BodyHunters?!?!! Saw that on the link page, but can't get video at work.

Heard on NG while my eyes were growing heavy about a new "area of interest" to search, anymore news on that??

Or the clothing and bones (thought to be a bird) from yesterday??

As far as the Body Hunters, Gail whatever her last name is, says that someone in California donated 3 nights stay at a motel but now says that Gail charged her for a weeks or more stay.

[concernedmom]

Since the new high profile lawyer is planning a big media blitz today, do you think there will be a new "leak" to kind of counter anything?

I hope Caylee is found and she is arrested for murder. Blow their campaign all to h$$l.

[Ladyhawk]

Good Lawd, don't know what happened to my post, I tried to edit it and all kinds of things were inserted. Will do it over. From the docs:
Pg. 32 regarding 1 short phone call from Zanny on 6/12, she says Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando or if she is ever going to bring her home. Could she have been giving a clue that Caylee is not in Orlando, or trying to push the search anywhere but Orlando?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf


I guess Casey's BF Christine didn't go for a walk with Casey and Caylee on 6/12, 6/13 or 6/14. Hmmmmm

[crymeariver2006]

Is this the same organization that provided GA with the billboard. I read or heard somewhere that GA told reporter that he was going to drive it into Georgia and the other surrounding states but instead drove it to a parking lot and parked it. Is that true? imo


The billboard, IIRC, was provided by KidFinders.

I don't know where he drove the billboard, but he never was gone long enough to drive it to Georgia, Texas or wherever it was he said he was going.

I believe that most of the time the billboard was reportedly seen at Publix (grocery store) where George was handing out fliers. That's JMO 'cause I don't have a link.

[MyrDawn]

I believe Florida still has a version of the Son of Sam law on the books but it's moot at this point. No one involved has been convicted of a crime so that law wouldn't pertain to them. If Casey is arrested, tried and convicted for murdering Caylee she wouldn't be able to profit from the crime. The police have repeatedly said the grandparents aren't suspects so they can sell their story if they choose to.

Don't tell the A's I said this, and if they're reading this...close your eyes A's...but they could all collaborate on a book titled "How To-Self Destruct A Family In 5 Easy Steps".

jmo

[cutiepatootie61]

I guess Casey's BF Christine didn't go for a walk with Casey and Caylee on 6/12, 6/13 or 6/14. Hmmmmm

This statement from Casey was working off of the June 9 date as the last time anyone had seen Caylee. We know shortly after these interviews were done, the date was changed to June 15 per LE investigating the photos that were received by the family.

[joolz]

It's a phone bank that automatically dials the numbers of people living in the immediate area of where the child was last seen, who they were with - sort of like a telephone Amber Alert. It is a pre-recorded message with phone numbers for tips, a description of the child, clothing, birthmarks, etc.

It was used, IIRC, in the Jessica Lunsford case.

It works best when it is implemented immediately upon notification to LE that a child is missing. I'm not sure what good it did in this case as there was a 31 day delay.

Thank you for the explanation. I'm sure it didn't do any good in this case, not just because of the lag time, but because it's all b.s. JMO

[AMS]

Attorney Mark NeJame on Caylee's grandparents: 'Don't forget George and Cindy Anthony are also victims'

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

Sorry if tis has already been posted.

[OneUp]

If for some unforeseen reason she gets that money, I can't imagine where she will be able to go to live and spend it. Look at the "protesters" are now, she will be treated much worse than any sex offender trying to find a place to live. Besides, ill gotten gains are just that, much like a huge curse, especially in this case. JMOI have no doubt that if significant funds get to either casey herself or her parents that she will leave the country. Illegally or legally...enough money will buy your way out to a country that won't extradite or at least one where you are liable to be anonymous. It's happened before, and I certainly think none of them would be above it.
I had also thought Casey a flight risk due to her lack of ties to family and community and her ability to scam...Either I'm wrong in that or the $ amount isn't high enough yet. I guess no funds have actually hit bank accounts yet where she can access them, when they do I'll be watching to see what happens.
JMO.

[kjt200]

So true!

and deeper in the article is the statement that Never Loose Hope Foundation HIRED this DEFENSE ATTY for George and Cindy!

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/contact.html

They have a contact page, I plan to remind them daily what a disgrace it is to merge their high missioned (help FIND missing PERSONS)organization to the donkey tails of these two low missioned (protect Casey at all costs) multi-celled organisms! The last time I looked, George & Cindy were NOT missing (well, perhaps missing class, social grace, emotion control, common sense, comprehension skills....etc.)!


:cuss::flamemad:


I just dropped them an email. I said that I hope this information was incorrect. I also told them that if it was correct then I would contact everyone I knew, their fiscal sponsor, the IRS and the Florida Attorney Generals office about their pending nonprofit status.

I run a nonprofit....Believe me, if I was deluged with thousands of emails from the public, I would change something and change it fast........

Also, once you send your message it says "continue" and it goes to a raffle page. I would be interested in finding out who was donating those high ticket raffle items. They should receive a little message as well.

My own opinion of course

[deep*fear]

I know wikipedia isn't always accurate, but here's the link re the Son of Sam law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Sam_law

Interesting, who would be the surviving victim(s) if Casey murdered Caylee. AND see the mention of family of the murderer.

I hope they find out who the father is and he sues for any profit made off of Caylee. I don't want anyone to profit, but that's certainly the lesser of 2 evils, IMO.

[PATTY]

I just left my polite message-they probably are a great organization but asked why get involved with the Anthony's who have admitted that Casey knows who took her child. imo


I am sure they have alot of experience with situations like this then we all do. Their org. name is never loose hope thats exactly what the A's are doing. Whether it is right or wrong. I am back to defending the A's we can all say we would do this or we would do that. But who knows what we would really do untill you are in those shoes and lets all hope to god that does not happen to any of us. Again I have pity on them it is actually really sad they will come to the realization one day the their g-child was killed by their daughter and live the rest of their life with that horror. Why should we feel the need to speed up the process they are working with police. I do feel they have done things that have been completely wrong such as the tim episode. The whole thing is a nightmare not the worlds nighmere not this board nighmare it is the A's nightmare

[crymeariver2006]

I guess Casey's BF Christine didn't go for a walk with Casey and Caylee on 6/12, 6/13 or 6/14. Hmmmmm

I'd believe Christine over Casey any day of the week.

[MyrDawn]

Is there anyone we can all email regarding casey spending all that time in Baez's office? I thought house arrest is house arrest. As for being afraid of the house being bugged I am sure with all the donations the Anthony' are getting they could hire someone who would be able to find any bugs in the house.
We all know Baez has other clients and can not just be talking to casey because he needs to make a living. this is just another loop hole in the judical system that the lawyer is using! And if she is not just talking to Baez, why isn't someone in the office reporting this with out leaving a name?
This is HOUSE ARREST NOT OFFICE ARREST! I would be protesting the judge!!!!hammer

It wouldn't do any good to email them. Casey hasn't been charged with murder yet, and the most serious crime she has been charged with is child neglect. Normally, when someone is bonded out for child neglect, they don't wear an ankle monitor, aren't confined to their home, and have very few restricitons. And, their bond is between a PR bond and $1500, on the average. Not half a million $ as is Caseys. And, Caseys restrictions are FAR more than normal for the crimes she's charged with already.

[crymeariver2006]

Thank you for the explanation. I'm sure it didn't do any good in this case, not just because of the lag time, but because it's all b.s. JMO


Well yeah, that too. ;)

[Joan Weiss]

Okay this goes back to yesterday's discussion about the CH drug and the fact that there were flies that flew out obviously alive when Tow guy & George opened the trunk. I just re-found the Cliff-Note to the Doc dump and yes it does say that about the flies. I thought so but had to re-check.

I have the link to the C-Notes but do not know if it is okay to post it. Read the rules.... Blah Blah Blah.......and something in my dyslexic self just keeps getting mixed up.

I can PM it though.........if anyone wants. Then if someone more rule sauvy than I chooses to, they could post it.

I want to add: I sure wish Nancy would ask Koby that question?.......How the heck could those flies have been alive?There were maggots in the garbage bag, maybe that's where the flies were coming from. Maybe they were still hatching.

Would chloroform penetrate plastic?

[morson]

Attorney Mark NeJame on Caylee's grandparents: 'Don't forget George and Cindy Anthony are also victims'

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

Sorry if tis has already been posted.

Contact NBC to complain about NeJame's appearance--he is supposed to be on a 10

TODAY@nbcuni.com

I just did and plan to contact any other place he appears (plus, following the advice of some great posters here, will contact NLH daily)

[WinnieLeigh7]

Thanks Why-Me

Nice Name btw, I find myself asking that question alot :D

[kOOkie1]

...Gonna ramble here for a min..It was very interesting listening to Nate last night on NG. Just another confirmation that during the time Caylee was "missing" her demeanor never changed at all...that is frightening to me. LOL @ "she's not out there Looking ..she's cooking". Aint that the Truth!!! Also, I guess I wasent aware the Laptop was found in the car..I am actually surprised she left in in there...It was sweet to hear about Caylee from Nate as well. Im confused..didnt Amy also say Casey took cash..$400 from her the night before she (Amy) went on her trip? . I am still trying to figure out in my head if the Chloroform was used by Casey or the Parents in their cleaning frenzy...(jmo)

[cutiepatootie61]

I am sure they have alot of experience with situations like this then we all do. Their org. name is never loose hope thats exactly what the A's are doing. Whether it is right or wrong. I am back to defending the A's we can all say we would do this or we would do that. But who knows what we would really do untill you are in those shoes and lets all hope to god that does not happen to any of us. Again I have pity on them it is actually really sad they will come to the realization one day the their g-child was killed by their daughter and live the rest of their life with that horror. Why should we feel the need to speed up the process they are working with police. I do feel they have done things that have been completely wrong such as the tim episode. The whole thing is a nightmare not the worlds nighmere not this board nighmare it is the A's nightmare

You are a kind person Patty, I wish I could find it in me to afford them the same pity. It is my opinion, they came to the realization their graddaughter was killed by their daughter the day they picked up the car from Amscot. If not, why search the backyard for foul play? Cindy's own words state, "there's something wrong, I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!!" It was on that day the realization came to them, ever since, they have been following the agenda to protect Casey and deflect the truth to anywhere else but where it points, their daughter. If they believed for a second that child were alive, they would physically be looking for her. They never have, not one time have they searched. They needn't they were looking at the truth when they faced their daughter with the continuing lies that she has told for almost 3 months. I just can't look past all that as some others are able to do. The only vicitm I find in this is Caylee. Cindy and George may feel like victims but their situation was self inflicted. Caylee did not decide to up and walk out on this family and disappear.

[morson]

I am sure they have alot of experience with situations like this then we all do. Their org. name is never loose hope thats exactly what the A's are doing. Whether it is right or wrong. I am back to defending the A's we can all say we would do this or we would do that. But who knows what we would really do untill you are in those shoes and lets all hope to god that does not happen to any of us. Again I have pity on them it is actually really sad they will come to the realization one day the their g-child was killed by their daughter and live the rest of their life with that horror. Why should we feel the need to speed up the process they are working with police. I do feel they have done things that have been completely wrong such as the tim episode. The whole thing is a nightmare not the worlds nighmere not this board nighmare it is the A's nightmare


I know that I would NOT be trying to make my fortune off of my DEAD granddaughter! (And I'll bet you wouldn't either!) The Anthonys are indefensible!

[febreze]

was a Nate living with TonE and Clint, why no police interview? I think Clint & Nate are one in the same, and Clint said Casey took Caylee home to grandma at night and Nate says the nanny, someone must be lying. to many player to many lies, you don't know who to believe,
and i sure don't believe the Anthony's stories.

[cutiepatootie61]

...Gonna ramble here for a min..It was very interesting listening to Nate last night on NG. Just another confirmation that during the time Caylee was "missing" her demeanor never changed at all...that is frightening to me. LOL @ "she's not out there Looking ..she's cooking". Aint that the Truth!!! Also, I guess I wasent aware the Laptop was found in the car..I am actually surprised she left in in there...It was sweet to hear about Caylee from Nate as well. Im confused..didnt Amy also say Casey took cash..$400 from her the night before she (Amy) went on her trip? . I am still trying to figure out in my head if the Chloroform was used by Casey or the Parents in their cleaning frenzy...(jmo)


Agreed about the laptop. A while back this was a topic of discussion. I understood from the docs the laptop was confiscated, but I misunderstood that it was found in the car.

[marshmallow]

I agree n/t. I haven't been on the board much lately because I am sad and angry. Casey and her parents are despicable creatures who are doing everything but look for Caylee. IMO.

I think LE would bring additional charges against her if they had evidence. They would stop the circus if they could. IMO.

The book deal put me over the top. Tell her story? What story? She claims she knows nothing. She hasn't shared enough information to write a paragraph, let alone a book. IMO.

I"m sorry - just fed up.

For Caylee :rose:



we all know Casey likes to tell stories. I too am a bit fed up, apparently she can't talk to help find her child but she'll talk for cash. that's so wrong.

[MyrDawn]

I know that I would NOT be trying to make my fortune off of my DEAD granddaughter! (And I'll bet you wouldn't either!) The Anthonys are indefensible!

If they have or do cut a deal to profit from this mess, I'm DONE with them, just plain DONE. :cuss:

[SavannahStar]

Contact NBC to complain about NeJame's appearance--he is supposed to be on a 10

TODAY@nbcuni.com

I just did and plan to contact any other place he appears (plus, following the advice of some great posters here, will contact NLH daily)


:confused:

I love it when posters tell other posters what to do. ;)

[SandyO]

I truly do not believe for a moment that the police are trying to deceive the public about decomposition in the trunk as a "scare tactic."
Nor, do I believe Casey was scared of her thefts being found out, so she needed to sell Caylee. Her major theft, the embezzlement of thousands of dollars from her grandmother's bank account, was already discovered and repaid from Cindy's 401K. Casey never feared consequences from her actions, as she never seemed to have to face them.

Barskin: I follow your posts closely because you have a knack for cutting to the chase and for blowing off the nonsense......but do I take this post to mean you believe Casey 'sold' Caylee? How would that explain the decomp. odor and other suggestions of a cadaver? Help!

[morson]

was a Nate living with TonE and Clint, why no police interview? I think Clint & Nate are one in the same, and Clint said Casey took Caylee home to grandma at night and Nate says the nanny, someone must be lying. to many player to many lies, you don't know who to believe,
and i sure don't believe the Anthony's stories.

LE only released documents/statements that involved the original charges. They did not (nor did they have to) release anything that they have that pertains to the death/murder of Caylee.

[cutiepatootie61]

Well, the bag isn't airtight to begin with if there are flies in it right? So wouldn't the chloroform get in it too?


The only source I have heard refer to the chloroform as saturating the air is Nancy Grace. No one else that I know of has described it that way, not sure where she gets her info from. I do watch NG but am not too confident in taking everything she says as gospel. She does have the tendency to exaggerate.

[farrahrani]

So true!

and deeper in the article is the statement that Never Loose Hope Foundation HIRED this DEFENSE ATTY for George and Cindy!

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/contact.html

They have a contact page, I plan to remind them daily what a disgrace it is to merge their high missioned (help FIND missing PERSONS)organization to the donkey tails of these two low missioned (protect Casey at all costs) multi-celled organisms! The last time I looked, George & Cindy were NOT missing (well, perhaps missing class, social grace, emotion control, common sense, comprehension skills....etc.)!


:cuss::flamemad:

I think that's absolutely disgusting! barf

That is comparable to fraud, in my book! To donate money to an organization that claims to be devoted to finding missing children, only to have that money diverted to the defense of the family of one of the 'persons of interest' in the disappearance, is something that needs to be made more public!

I have never heard of this group before this, but am glad I know about what's going on behind the scenes, otherwise I might have donated to them, or convinced some of my friends to donate to them. I'll be sending my message along also, and hope everyone here does!

[MyrDawn]

:confused:

I love it when posters tell other posters what to do. ;)

Me too. :D

[WinnieLeigh7]

Just a rambling (Horrible) thought that came at me last night...

What if the Chloroform was used to knock Caylee out, put her to sleep...as it's known to be used for.

And then Caylee was just abandoned somewhere, just like Casey did with her car...just abandoned.

So it's true that Casey doesn't "know where she's out"

I've heard, somewhere (without validation, but just thoughts and ""visions"", so take that for what it's worth)...speculation of her burying poor Caylee alive also.
But with that said, I'll leave it alone, because my mind just can't fathom that.

But what is she did just abandon her?? And poor lil' Caylee, so young...lost out there somewhere, scared and alone, starving..

Wait, that couldn't explain the dog hits and decomp' though, could it?

NM I'm just going crazy...

[morson]

:confused:

I love it when posters tell other posters what to do. ;)

Sorry, meant it as a suggestion, really--just was in too big of hurry!
I should have read it before I posted. I did not mean to offend anyone--guess I am just so offended by the whole Anthony circus.

Again, I am sorry that I offended anyone---will go back to lurking.

[cutiepatootie61]

LE only released documents/statements that involved the original charges. They did not (nor did they have to) release anything that they have that pertains to the death/murder of Caylee.


I have to believe this Nate was interviewed. Not sure why it wasn't released, also, there was no interview with Cindy's mother and I have to believe that she too was interviewed.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I agree with NG about this though...

The fact that the Anthony's are considering "book deals" or in ANY way are willing to take money for a DEFENSE FUND vs. Money to Help in the search for Caylee....

Just :cuss::flamemad::mad:

Speaks volumes doesn't it?

[AnnInOhio]

Looking at the 400 documents again (thanks for the link - a better quality than the ones I had previously looked at BTW) I'm struck that what they show as the 1st 911 call wasn't CA's first call - she had already called about the stolen car from her cell phone while driving and was waiting for a deputy when the made what the documents refer to as the "1st" 911 call.

My question is where is the transcription of that first call? Did CA call 911 for that, or did she call the police at a non-911 number? I think it would be interesting to hear what CA had to say, if anything, to cops about where Caylee supposedly was in THAT conversation. Anybody know of a link to CA's first call to cops that day?

[SavannahStar]

The only source I have heard refer to the chloroform as saturating the air is Nancy Grace. No one else that I know of has described it that way, not sure where she gets her info from. I do watch NG but am not too confident in taking everything she says as gospel. She does have the tendency to exaggerate.

You are absolutely correct about NG. I have seen that time after time, in many cases.

[WillowInFlight]

If they have or do cut a deal to profit from this mess, I'm DONE with them, just plain DONE. :cuss:

ITA, but I guess they would say a book would keep the focus on Caylee. Honestly what do they have to say. And what would the title be? Lies of an American family. :rolleyes:

[beemeup]

Good Day::) Anyone on here this a.m. have the bond hearing links? I would like to go back and re-visit. Thanks:rose:

[Velouria]

Sorry, meant it as a suggestion, really--just was in too big of hurry!
I should have read it before I posted. I did not mean to offend anyone--guess I am just so offended by the whole Anthony circus.

Again, I am sorry that I offended anyone---will go back to lurking.

Don't worry morson. I think most of us realized it wasn't meant as a command. :)

[AnnInOhio]

I have to believe this Nate was interviewed. Not sure why it wasn't released, also, there was no interview with Cindy's mother and I have to believe that she too was interviewed.


Bear in mind they only released documents relating to the current charges, not interviews relating to future pending charges.

[marshmallow]

:confused:

I love it when posters tell other posters what to do. ;)

it was a suggestion, you can choose whether to follow the suggestion or not to. please stop trying to cause fights. you can always ignore the posts you do not like.

how do you feel about the Anthony's earning money off all of this?

[bchand]

Agreed about the laptop. A while back this was a topic of discussion. I understood from the docs the laptop was confiscated, but I misunderstood that it was found in the car.

Again, I think the laptop was retrieved from "Cindy's car" not Casey's. She collected Casey's things from Tony's apt.
JMO

[shelbar53]

NBC is going to talk about the case...now..i mean after the current commericial. its about 9:34 est

[SavannahStar]

Sorry, meant it as a suggestion, really--just was in too big of hurry!
I should have read it before I posted. I did not mean to offend anyone--guess I am just so offended by the whole Anthony circus.

Again, I am sorry that I offended anyone---will go back to lurking.

You didn't offend, really. Please don't just lurk, please keep posting. I apologize if I offended you.

I don't plan to "protest" the attorney's appearances in the media. I like to see/listen to both sides of any case. I'm sure there are some others as well.

[PATTY]

You are a kind person Patty, I wish I could find it in me to afford them the same pity. It is my opinion, they came to the realization their graddaughter was killed by their daughter the day they picked up the car from Amscot. If not, why search the backyard for foul play? Cindy's own words state, "there's something wrong, I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!!" It was on that day the realization came to them, ever since, they have been following the agenda to protect Casey and deflect the truth to anywhere else but where it points, their daughter. If they believed for a second that child were alive, they would physically be looking for her. They never have, not one time have they searched. They needn't they were looking at the truth when they faced their daughter with the continuing lies that she has told for almost 3 months. I just can't look past all that as some others are able to do. The only vicitm I find in this is Caylee. Cindy and George may feel like victims but their situation was self inflicted. Caylee did not decide to up and walk out on this family and disappear.


I do agree with your post to a certain extent.I believe that they know there original reaction is right deep down inside but that is where the denial aspect comes in. I do put blame on them for things that they did wrong but my main blame goes on Casey she has done this to all of them. Caylee of course is my main concerned and I do beleive she is the main victim and Caysee is the one to blame. Everyone us is just in a roll that they did not choose to be in. In due time the Anthonys will see I have faith in that. How can you not. I do bbelieve that Caysee will pay hopefully the right way in jail and not out but if she is out she will always be known as the women who killed her child and what decent human being would want anything to do with her. She will grow old and lonely with just a memory of what a beautiful life she really could of have. That tatoo will really haunt her for the rest of her life.

[desmom]

was a Nate living with TonE and Clint, why no police interview? I think Clint & Nate are one in the same, and Clint said Casey took Caylee home to grandma at night and Nate says the nanny, someone must be lying. to many player to many lies, you don't know who to believe,
and i sure don't believe the Anthony's stories.


I posted a link on last night's thread of Clint's interview with Greta. IMO, they are NOT the same person. The voices are different.

We do not know that Clint and Nate were not interviewed. There are a lot of things I expected to see in the 400 + documents that were not there. IOW, LE did not release everything.

The only person lying is Casey. Casey told people Caylee was with her parents or the nanny. George and Cindy have stated repeatedly they have not seen Caylee during that month in question. Zanny the Nanny only exists in Double Trouble Squared.

jmo

[cutiepatootie61]

Looking at the 400 documents again (thanks for the link - a better quality than the ones I had previously looked at BTW) I'm struck that what they show as the 1st 911 call wasn't CA's first call - she had already called about the stolen car from her cell phone while driving and was waiting for a deputy when the made what the documents refer to as the "1st" 911 call.

My question is where is the transcription of that first call? Did CA call 911 for that, or did she call the police at a non-911 number? I think it would be interesting to hear what CA had to say, if anything, to cops about where Caylee supposedly was in THAT conversation. Anybody know of a link to CA's first call to cops that day?

Not sure if there is transcripts, but here is a link to the audio's of all the 911 calls.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17001019/detail.html

[deep*fear]

OT
Can someone help me with a question I have on the new format (regarding the search function)
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339651&page=3

[MyrDawn]

ITA, but I guess they would say a book would keep the focus on Caylee. Honestly what do they have to say. And what would the title be? Lies of an American family. :rolleyes:

I'm partial to the title I suggested earlier, ""How To-Self Destruct A Family In 5 Easy Steps". :D

[bchand]

Good Day::) Anyone on here this a.m. have the bond hearing links? I would like to go back and re-visit. Thanks:rose:

Morning beemeup and Everyone -

http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/caylee-anthony-courtroom-video-from-bond-hearing/

[AnnInOhio]

I like Nancy, but she is making me mad about the chloroform issue. I love Daniel Horowitz, and he in my eyes was right about the chloroform being used as a cleanser to cover something up in the trunk, but Nancy didn't even want to hear it, to me it appeared she wanted that chloroform to have been used to drug Caylee, its like her tunnel vision was in full swing.

From the flurry of phone calls around the time that Caylee went missing, I am convinced something happened at the house, hence the cadaver dogs hitting. I honestly do think that Casey knew the ladder was in the pool, and let Caylee be unattended and let fate take over. jmo


If chloroform was used as a cleanser, where's the bottle and who used it? It would be innocent if somebody used chloroform all the time as a cleanser (yeah, right) and could testify to that, so if that's why it's there why not bring out the bottle?

[desmom]

Well, the bag isn't airtight to begin with if there are flies in it right? So wouldn't the chloroform get in it too?

I would think so... Since there were live flies when the trunk was open, the chloroform was introduced after the car was picked up from the tow company.

jmo

[crymeariver2006]

Agreed about the laptop. A while back this was a topic of discussion. I understood from the docs the laptop was confiscated, but I misunderstood that it was found in the car.

I don't think it was found in the car. Casey was still using it for "work" while she was living at TonE's. :D She'd let go of her right arm before she'd leave her laptop in that car.

[cutiepatootie61]

I like Nancy, but she is making me mad about the chloroform issue. I love Daniel Horowitz, and he in my eyes was right about the chloroform being used as a cleanser to cover something up in the trunk, but Nancy didn't even want to hear it, to me it appeared she wanted that chloroform to have been used to drug Caylee, its like her tunnel vision was in full swing.

From the flurry of phone calls around the time that Caylee went missing, I am convinced something happened at the house, hence the cadaver dogs hitting. I honestly do think that Casey knew the ladder was in the pool, and let Caylee be unattended and let fate take over. jmo

I'm torn on the chloroform issue. I tend to think it was used in the cleaning of the vehicle by the parents, but then why was there soil still in the car? And if it was used to harm Caylee, I wonder if the searches on the internet will prove it was purchased by Casey using Cindy's credit card, hence the need for the Anthony parents to get a high profile defense atty. I'm undecided about this.

[n/t]

I like Nancy, but she is making me mad about the chloroform issue. I love Daniel Horowitz, and he in my eyes was right about the chloroform being used as a cleanser to cover something up in the trunk, but Nancy didn't even want to hear it, to me it appeared she wanted that chloroform to have been used to drug Caylee, its like her tunnel vision was in full swing.

From the flurry of phone calls around the time that Caylee went missing, I am convinced something happened at the house, hence the cadaver dogs hitting. I honestly do think that Casey knew the ladder was in the pool, and let Caylee be unattended and let fate take over. jmo


I noticed Nancy sticking up for the grandparents a few times. Not sure why considering they're the stars of this madness that's going on surrounding their pathological lying daughter and possible baby murderer.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I'm partial to the title I suggested earlier, ""How To-Self Destruct A Family In 5 Easy Steps". :D


Contents

Chapter I: Supplies Needed

1. Hammer
2. Gas Cans
3. Caution Tape

[PATTY]

I know that I would NOT be trying to make my fortune off of my DEAD granddaughter! (And I'll bet you wouldn't either!) The Anthonys are indefensible!


I think that would be horrific. But if they do get money i would hope they would donate it all to org. of missing children or on familys that needs help to cope with a dead child. We dont know what w=they would do. But there is always to ways to look at what they could do not just the one way.

[Fallen Angel]

I agree with NG about this though...

The fact that the Anthony's are considering "book deals" or in ANY way are willing to take money for a DEFENSE FUND vs. Money to Help in the search for Caylee....

Just :cuss::flamemad::mad:

Speaks volumes doesn't it?
amen i totally agree. I heard that last night and almost fell outta my chiar

[SavannahStar]

I noticed Nancy sticking up for the grandparents a few times. Not sure why considering they're the stars of this madness that's going on surrounding their pathological lying daughter and possible baby murderer.

I noticed that also. I do understand though, personally anyway, as I view them as NG does as well.

[OneUp]

was a Nate living with TonE and Clint, why no police interview? I think Clint & Nate are one in the same, and Clint said Casey took Caylee home to grandma at night and Nate says the nanny, someone must be lying. to many player to many lies, you don't know who to believe,
and i sure don't believe the Anthony's stories.First, just because a Police interview has yet to be released does not mean it doesn't exist. LE only released what they were required to release.
Second, Clint's statements that Caylee stayed with her grandparents referred to the nights before 6/15 ( he says he last saw her 6/13)...Casey began reporting to all that Caylee was with the nanny pretty consistently after that. Nate did mention the grandparents having Caylee some IIRC, but he may have JUST been referring to the time before he last physically saw Caylee. For everyone involved that is on or near the 15th of June. After that Casey told people Caylee was with her nanny when they asked AFAIK.
Mention is made of her faking calls to Gramma too, but I don't recall any specific dates in the documents (LE interviews) as to when Casey pretended to call her mother and when she was pretending that Caylee was at the nanny's.
All just JMO. until I get time to fact check...or until someone with facts and time at hand comes along to set us both straight.

[beemeup]

Morning beemeup and Everyone -

http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/caylee-anthony-courtroom-video-from-bond-hearing/

Thanks so much bchand:rose:

[happy2bme]

Good Morning.

I fell asleep last night watching NG. Did she ever ask the roommate about when Tone picked Casey up at Amscot? Did she ask if Tone smelled decomp? I think this would have been an important question.

[Fallen Angel]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

[nc1948]

I agree with NG about this though...

The fact that the Anthony's are considering "book deals" or in ANY way are willing to take money for a DEFENSE FUND vs. Money to Help in the search for Caylee....

Just :cuss::flamemad::mad:

Speaks volumes doesn't it?

If (and please note I said if) the Anthonys do get the money for photos and book deal. And IF(note again the if) Casey is convicted of Caylees death then the Grandparents would get all the money while Casey is in jail. Don't you just know this would burn Casey. We then would hear all about what horrible parents George and Cindy are. We would hear all about the skeltons in that family in detail. But as Casey is such a liar no one would believe her. I do not want anyone to profit from the death of this child, but Casey would have her Karma.

[WillowInFlight]

I'm partial to the title I suggested earlier, ""How To-Self Destruct A Family In 5 Easy Steps". :D
Oh I didn't see that, That title works for me.

[desmom]

Good Morning.

I fell asleep last night watching NG. Did she ever ask the roommate about when Tone picked Casey up at Amscot? Did she ask if Tone smelled decomp? I think this would have been an important question.

IIRC, Nate said Tony picked her up sometime between 11:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m., but he could not give an exact time. jmo

[summer4meplz]

I understand that but the longer they wait, the more the defense builds their case as well. Why do you think Baez hasn't invoked his right to a speedy trial? Look at what's happening. People taking garbage from the Anthonys as an example. Do you think if anything was found in that garbage bag and presented to LE as evidence, they can use it? No way. Also, I'm starting to question the real reason TES left. Don't get me wrong....I love Tim Miller and what he does for victims and their families but if they found anything, the defense could possibly use that as evidence against the search and claim it was planted by a volunteer searcher or it's contaminated or whatever.

The longer they wait, the risk just gets higher, imo.

I hope Tony, Amy and those who gave witness statements stay out of the media. It would be a disaster if they start to talk. All these folks like Nate and Clint coming out to get their 15 minutes is NOT helping. The defense can use these statements and prove inconsistencies. Clint said one thing, Nate says another. Get what I mean? We know they're watching and listening and trying to find any holes possible.

i don't think nate was too interested in 15 fame minutes or wouldn't he have showed his face? if we, who are strangers to these ppl, are highly frustrated, can you imagine how frustrated ppl are that actually knew and loved little Caylee?

[bballgrl]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?


NOT I!!! 100% disgusted at the thought... JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

Nope not on your life.

[SandyO]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

There must be [U]one[U] but it isn't me. I would wait and read all about it right here on this board within about ten minutes.

[nutterbutter]

~DaddysGirl~
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008
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Psychic Investigating Caylee Disappearance Now Under Investigation

http://www.wftv.com/video/17432761/index.html
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Not sure if anyone saw this. It looks intersting.
wow could things get any stranger than this case?

[huskiki]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?


I wouldn't pay for anything they put out there. :cuss:

[Fallen Angel]

They couldn't even PAY ME to watch it :flamemad:

I tell ya'll i would dontate to a Find Caylee alive fund but why are they saying this money's for a DEFENSE FUND? unbelievable. Makes me sick.

and why do the GP's need a DEFENSE lawyer?

[summer4meplz]

If (and please note I said if) the Anthonys do get the money for photos and book deal. And IF(note again the if) Casey is convicted of Caylees death then the Grandparents would get all the money while Casey is in jail. Don't you just know this would burn Casey. We then would hear all about what horrible parents George and Cindy are. We would hear all about the skeltons in that family in detail. But as Casey is such a liar no one would believe her. I do not want anyone to profit from the death of this child, but Casey would have her Karma.

but what IF cindy and george are also convicted of all the numerous charges that can go along with all the illegal things they have maybe done.....withholding evidence....obstruction....i don't even know what all...disposing of a body...? then i guess lee would be the rich one collecting blood money from his niece....

[MyrDawn]

OT
Can someone help me with a question I have on the new format (regarding the search function)
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339651&page=3

Check your PM's. :)

[SavannahStar]

There must be [U]one[U] but it isn't me. I would wait and read all about it right here on this board within about ten minutes.

:lol:

I don't PAY to view anything.

[bballgrl]

wow could things get any stranger than this case?

Was that rhetorical question???? ;)

[Kathlb]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?


A resounding NO from this corner of the world. :seeya:

[Snoopy50]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?
IMO we have all been watching for free all summer and the majority of us are just sick at heart at this circus, so I would have to say no to this. They should be paying US!:mad:

[bballgrl]

but what IF cindy and george are also convicted of all the numerous charges that can go along with all the illegal things they have maybe done.....withholding evidence....obstruction....i don't even know what all...disposing of a body...? then i guess lee would be the rich one collecting blood money from his niece....

Unless HE TOO is somehow involved. *sigh* What a tangled web!!!

[Velouria]

I also wonder if there was some kind of chemical reaction between the cleansers in the trunk, bleach, etc, and it metathesized in the heat or something.

Or, the samples were tainted in the lab. moo

And that would explain the computer searches for chloroform how, exactly?

[MyrDawn]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

Not me. I'd rather watch a rerun of "SpongeBob" I'd already seen 3 times.

[Joan Weiss]

Well, the bag isn't airtight to begin with if there are flies in it right? So wouldn't the chloroform get in it too?Which came first, the garbage bag or the chloroform? Mr Birch said he opened it and looked inside. (per the docus)

This is a gross story, but it might help explain the flies and the maggots. When I was a kid, my grandmother had a pot on the stove for saving bacon grease. One day in the summer, I lifted the lid to use it, and it was full of maggots. It had only been there about four days. The lid was tight. You tell me where the maggots came from...

[desmom]

MyFoxOrlando has added the webcam to their "Where's Caylee?" page...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7130516&version=54&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

[kOOkie1]

I don't think it was found in the car. Casey was still using it for "work" while she was living at TonE's. :D She'd let go of her right arm before she'd leave her laptop in that car.

GRACE: And back out to Mark Williams. Mark, I understand items in Cindy Anthony`s car were itemized. What was in her car?

WILLIAMS: Well, what was in her car was a backpack. It was a laptop computer, and it also included, of all things, a kitchen knife. And that kitchen knife was of interest to police, but that kitchen knife has since been washed.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

..like CA is going to give them all the items that were in that car!..Do we know if LE picked up her stuff from TonE's apt. before the family got ahold of them?.. this family infuriates me to no end!!

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, all.

I dont see any new links in the sticky. Has the media blitz not begun yet? :)

[Joan Weiss]

:lol:

I don't PAY to view anything.Me either. ;)

[Kathlb]

Proper way to use it to clean?

There was a leak on Nancy Grace one night and I have no idea how credible it is, that one of the searches on her computer for chloroform was on how to use it on a person. That's what I remember anyway...did anyone else hear that?

[Fallen Angel]

Does anyone know if the LE found anything yesterday at their search at the college? and are they back there today. TIA

[WillowInFlight]

MyFoxOrlando has added the webcam to their "Where's Caylee?" page...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7130516&version=54&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1
Thanks:seeya:

[WinnieLeigh7]

If (and please note I said if) the Anthonys do get the money for photos and book deal. And IF(note again the if) Casey is convicted of Caylees death then the Grandparents would get all the money while Casey is in jail. Don't you just know this would burn Casey. We then would hear all about what horrible parents George and Cindy are. We would hear all about the skeltons in that family in detail. But as Casey is such a liar no one would believe her. I do not want anyone to profit from the death of this child, but Casey would have her Karma.

Yea, but I think the Grandparents need a lil' dose of Karma too, for chosing the defense of their whacko daughter over finding their innocent grandchild.

No one probably knows Casey more than Cindy Anthony...no one. To know how she is, how she operates, how her "mind" works.

It's obvious Casey isn't going to give the answers, but I'd be willing to bet that Cindy could offer some great suggestions as to what happened and where Caylee may be.

But in order to do this, Cindy has to put the guard down on defending and enabling her daughters actions and care enough about her granddaughter to show some "tough love" towards Casey.

I don't expect her to stop loving her daughter, no matter how unthinkable whatever it is she's done---if the truth ever unfolds.

I do however expect her to show that same love for the innocent child, Caylee, above and beyond!

[MommyTuTu]

I have a question and please excuse me if I am wrong on my facts or if this has already been covered but this really stuck out to me on NG last night.

The dinner knife in the car...was it actually found by LE in the car? If so why would Cindy have washed it and then put it back in the car? That makes no sense to me. I have probably missed something along the way but that just stood out in my mind.

TIA and God bless you all!

[Joan Weiss]

GRACE: And back out to Mark Williams. Mark, I understand items in Cindy Anthony`s car were itemized. What was in her car?

WILLIAMS: Well, what was in her car was a backpack. It was a laptop computer, and it also included, of all things, a kitchen knife. And that kitchen knife was of interest to police, but that kitchen knife has since been washed.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

..like CA is going to give them all the items that were in that car!..Do we know if LE picked up her stuff from TonE's apt. before the family got ahold of them?.. this family infuriates me to no end!!I was thinking the same thing. I recall reading in one of the searches, Cindy gave the laptop to LE. Who knows what was really in the car when it was found? imo

[Kathlb]

Does anyone know if the LE found anything yesterday at their search at the college? and are they back there today. TIA

From what I understood in reading another forum, this is a private group who are being helped out by some off duty LE from another county since the location is in another county. I don't believe it is the Orlando LE. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :)

[warrkat]

Not me. I'd rather watch a rerun of "SpongeBob" I'd already seen 3 times.

:) I've never "paid-for-view," but have never seen SpongeBob, either. Oh dear, what to do, what to do?

Mornin' everybody!

[AnnInOhio]

Not sure if there is transcripts, but here is a link to the audio's of all the 911 calls.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17001019/detail.html

Help me out - I'm getting old and my hearing isn't what it used to be. What I hear Cindy saying is "Cause my next thing will be down the child thing and we’ll have a court order together if that’s the way you want to play we’ll do it and you’ll never..."
and does Casey say "That’s not the way I wanted to do it"?

Wanted??? Did Casey say "want" or "wanted"???

If it's "wanted", I think we have our motive.

[Velouria]

Proper way to use it to clean?

You've gotta be kidding.

Casey is so industrious, she's looking for costly exotic solvents to clean her trunk because regular ol' household cleaners just won't do?

I can't believe anyone besides Spector juror #10 who would buy that explanation.

[OneUp]

I would think so... Since there were live flies when the trunk was open, the chloroform was introduced after the car was picked up from the tow company.

jmoActually, Chloroform is heavier than air. It is quite possible that if the air in the trunk/car was fairly undisturbed ( as it would be sitting in a tow yard for 15 days) that there was plenty of fresh air for the flies to survive with. trunks are not totally airtight either. ( I ran this theory past my uncle ( Jimmy Lish) who is a Physiology/Biology professor for O.S.U., he said it is very possible and had lots of other technical tidbits for me that I should have written down. I'm no so ggod with scientific terminology! I tried to get him to post and do some Q & A about some of the chlororform issues, but he basically told me to get real! LOL).
AFAIK, no statement has been made factually giving the exact level of Chloroform found. Nancy is prone to hyperbole, and it seems every other person has their own version of how much was found. Significant amounts doesn't necessarily mean cups full...it may mean clinically sig. amounts...micrograms,etc. The exact amount is definitely a factor in the equasion.
JMO.

[Fallen Angel]

From what I understood in reading another forum, this is a private group who are being helped out by some off duty LE from another county since the location is in another county. I don't believe it is the Orlando LE. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :)

ohhhhhhh ok. thank you

[kitty1182]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

I would not.

[bballgrl]

You've gotta be kidding.

Casey is so industrious, she's looking for costly exotic solvents to clean her trunk because regular ol' household cleaners just won't do?

I can't believe anyone besides Spector juror #10 who would buy that explanation.

:lol: That is awesome! LOL

[evalles]

GRACE: And back out to Mark Williams. Mark, I understand items in Cindy Anthony`s car were itemized. What was in her car?

WILLIAMS: Well, what was in her car was a backpack. It was a laptop computer, and it also included, of all things, a kitchen knife. And that kitchen knife was of interest to police, but that kitchen knife has since been washed.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

..like CA is going to give them all the items that were in that car!..Do we know if LE picked up her stuff from TonE's apt. before the family got ahold of them?.. this family infuriates me to no end!!


She didn't have to tell them the knife was ever in the car.

[anyonesguess]

I think that would be horrific. But if they do get money i would hope they would donate it all to org. of missing children or on familys that needs help to cope with a dead child. We dont know what w=they would do. But there is always to ways to look at what they could do not just the one way.

I think poor Caylee has been sold down the river. Any monies made as a profit for the family in my opinion is purely blood money, and for ever penny made will produce bad karma for them. I hope so anyway imo. Every single penny. There is a higher power as well that they will all have to answer to someday to answer these questions, and I know Caylee will be there as well to listen to what they have to say. :(

[joolz]

:confused:

I love it when posters tell other posters what to do. ;)

HOw do you see that as telling other posters what to do? It gave contact information and what that poster did - it was hardly an order.:rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

Off to do research on maggots!:seeya:TY. Somebody's gotta do it, lol...

[warrkat]

I have a question and please excuse me if I am wrong on my facts or if this has already been covered but this really stuck out to me on NG last night.

The dinner knife in the car...was it actually found by LE in the car? If so why would Cindy have washed it and then put it back in the car? That makes no sense to me. I have probably missed something along the way but that just stood out in my mind.

TIA and God bless you all!

I've never understood why they bothered to make note of the dinner knife, and why it's always referred to as "a washed knife." If it were a butcher's knife, or a filet knife, that would be different, imo.
Hate to say this, because it probably reflects on my housekeeping skills, but I have several things in my car that are not normally found in a car. Don't think I have a dinner knife, but I do tend to grab a knife occasionally when I really should use a screwdriver. And yes, it would be a "washed" dinner knife. There must be a reason..... that's the kind of thing I always look forward to hearing during a trial, when the evidence starts coming together.

[summer4meplz]

I have a question and please excuse me if I am wrong on my facts or if this has already been covered but this really stuck out to me on NG last night.

The dinner knife in the car...was it actually found by LE in the car? If so why would Cindy have washed it and then put it back in the car? That makes no sense to me. I have probably missed something along the way but that just stood out in my mind.

TIA and God bless you all!

i think that is a great question! i'm just wondering if le was so sure, in the beginning, that the grandparents didn't have anything to do with Caylee's disappearance, that they may have overlooked so many things at their house.....and in their yard....and in their carS

[OneUp]

I think somewhere along the way in Caseys travels she ran across someone who told her if anyone ever wanted to get rid of evidence of a body, chloroform would cover it up, or taint materials, I dont know if thats true, but her mind works differently than most peoples, and there are some weird people out there, jmo.

I also wonder if there was some kind of chemical reaction between the cleansers in the trunk, bleach, etc, and it metathesized in the heat or something.

Or, the samples were tainted in the lab. mooIIRC, on the day or so after the Chloroform info. was leaked, someone on IS searched and found a CSI episode that used Chloroform as COD. CSI was Casey's fav. show according to one of her sites ( MySpace, I think).
She may have gotten the idea planted from that. It seems she relies haevily on tv for her basis for reality...reminds me of another perp. who quoted lines from shows/movies to make him seem more normal as he didn't naturally act like others....
JMO.

[anyonesguess]

Actually, Chloroform is heavier than air. It is quite possible that if the air in the trunk/car was fairly undisturbed ( as it would be sitting in a tow yard for 15 days) that there was plenty of fresh air for the flies to survive with. trunks are not totally airtight either. ( I ran this theory past my uncle ( Jimmy Lish) who is a Physiology/Biology professor for O.S.U., he said it is very possible and had lots of other technical tidbits for me that I should have written down. I'm no so ggod with scientific terminology! I tried to get him to post and do some Q & A about some of the chlororform issues, but he basically told me to get real! LOL).
AFAIK, no statement has been made factually giving the exact level of Chloroform found. Nancy is prone to hyperbole, and it seems every other person has their own version of how much was found. Significant amounts doesn't necessarily mean cups full...it may mean clinically sig. amounts...micrograms,etc. The exact amount is definitely a factor in the equasion.
JMO.

How does that explain that flies flew out of the trunk when opened by George and the impound owner? Are flies impervious to the smell of chloroform? :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Actually, Chloroform is heavier than air. It is quite possible that if the air in the trunk/car was fairly undisturbed ( as it would be sitting in a tow yard for 15 days) that there was plenty of fresh air for the flies to survive with. trunks are not totally airtight either. ( I ran this theory past my uncle ( Jimmy Lish) who is a Physiology/Biology professor for O.S.U., he said it is very possible and had lots of other technical tidbits for me that I should have written down. I'm no so ggod with scientific terminology! I tried to get him to post and do some Q & A about some of the chlororform issues, but he basically told me to get real! LOL).
AFAIK, no statement has been made factually giving the exact level of Chloroform found. Nancy is prone to hyperbole, and it seems every other person has their own version of how much was found. Significant amounts doesn't necessarily mean cups full...it may mean clinically sig. amounts...micrograms,etc. The exact amount is definitely a factor in the equasion.
JMO.TY. I would think flies don't need that much air, either. They're little bitty things...

[msjoni]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?

Not me. If you remember, they wanted to do this with OJ, people protested and it never happened.

[OneUp]

Is there ANYONE here that would PAY to watch the Anthony's story on PAY PER VIEW?I wouldn't, I barely even keep any news programs in business! I prefer to read my news.
JMO.

[dixielover]

She didn't have to tell them the knife was ever in the car.

I know this is terrible but I don't believe anything the Anthony's have to say about the trunk- I think they cleaned it out knowing something happened and GA and CA just gave the LE items so it looked like they was cooperating. I think the items proably don't have anything on them and then they can say "see she wasn't in their because no decomp on clothes and items". I hope I am wrong but I believe this was the start of a full blown cover-up and they followed their own script from then to now. imo

[Joan Weiss]

How does that explain that flies flew out of the trunk when opened by George and the impound owner? Are flies impervious to the smell of chloroform? :shrug:They're not human beings. I don't know how their bodies work. Maybe we should wait for more info. If a person is chloroformed and dies, do the flies not lay eggs on the chloroformed body? :confused: imo

[desmom]

IMO, George and Cindy brought a lot of the negative publicity on themselves. They have made so many strange statements to the press that make absolutely no sense.

i.e Casey will not talk because she is afraid Caylee will be harmed or worse and Casey fears for her family's safety, but George turns around a week or two later and says the kidnappers are being watched. If they had so much fear for Caylee and/or the family's safety, why would he tell the media the kidnappers are being watched?

George said the gas cans had been stolen by a neighbor, but then tells Greta Casey stole the gas cans and he had known since 6/24. Why blame it on a neighbor?

Cindy said she had never heard Zanny's name before, but then said Caylee talked about Zanny's puppies.

Cindy said she talked to Casey or texted her every day. Then we learn on Greta (paraphrasing) "the family only had phone records through July 8 because Casey's phone had been shut off for lack of payment per Lee".

Casey is writing a letter, she is being watched in jail, not actually watched as reading over her shoulder, but watched. This letter contains clues and info to Caylee's whereabouts. Her attorney, JB, says there is no such letter and I can't imagine an attorney advising their client to put down details in writing.

I am sure there is more. I understand they did not ask to be thrown into this media circus. I don't understand their need to lie. The lies only bring more questions and make them more suspect.

Gotta run some errands....check back later.

jmo

[WinnieLeigh7]

I've asked before, why didn't Cindy just report the call stolen if she wanted to find Casey and Caylee before missing for so long...

Reviewing the 2nd of the 911 calls
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1AE6D083DD2192020C26CF73ECC0B527 ?contentId=7059935&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

that's what she was doing...2 weeks after the fact.


WHY was Cindy calling on July 15th to report her car was stolen on...

JUNE 30th?!?!?!?!

JUNE 30th?!?!?!?!? (did she leave on the 9th? the 15th? the 16th....or June 30th)

[greylover]

Good morning! I wonder if Casey told people that Caylee was abducted from J. Blanchard Park because that's where Casey put her body - then when Caylee is found (hopefully) at that Park, Casey can say that Nanny Z and Samantha killed her and left her there.

I am coming to the opinion that Casey doesn't really feel anything about the loss of Caylee at all. Just a minor inconvenience out of the way. The dynamic of her mind isn't something I can wrap my arms around. I believe she can rationalize the loss of Caylee somehow and really doesn't seem to feel any pain at all. Perhaps her rationalizing that CA is devastated is her way of inflicting punishment on CA.

I hope Casey grasps that she will go to jail for a long long time. I believe LE have tons of info we are not privy to - and I think we will be shocked when we hear it. We've only heard about the online searches of chloroform - I'll bet if she actually ordered it, they have tracked the purchase and delivery. This girl has been lying to amateurs for years but now she is lying to professionals, and I am 100% positive that she will pay for what she has done. No way jurors will buy any of the story in any way, shape or form. When I see her on news clips coming and going I absolutely despise her - and I am usually someone who gives people the benefit of the doubt.

jmo and my rambling thoughts on this very frustrating case.

[cutiepatootie61]

I am rewatching George testify at the bond hearing. Casey is quite emotional when she sees him, she begins crying before he even speaks. How can she be moved to tears here looking at her dad, and yet we have not seen one bit of emotion from her regarding a missing Caylee? if you can stand to watch this once again, what does anyone think of this?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US

[summer4meplz]

They're not human beings. I don't know how their bodies work. Maybe we should wait for more info. If a person is chloroformed and dies, do the flies not lay eggs on the chloroformed body? :confused: imo

A lot has been speculated about the "huge" amounts of chloroform...first of all, i don't know how strong the smell is....dr. koby said it dissipates (sp) quickly...but i think for many the point was, how would the flies survive....therefore, thinking, the chloroform came after the flies...

i'm still trying to figure out about your grandma's pot...kinda like when you have flour sitting around in room temperature...and those little eggs hatch that were there all along...and you end up with little bugs...God i hate that!

[WillowInFlight]

I am rewatching George testify at the bond hearing. Casey is quite emotional when she sees him, she begins crying before he even speaks. How can she be moved to tears here looking at her dad, and yet we have not seen one bit of emotion from her regarding a missing Caylee? if you can stand to watch this once again, what does anyone think of this?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US
I wonder if she was worried that George might slip up, and reveal something.:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

I've asked before, why didn't Cindy just report the call stolen if she wanted to find Casey and Caylee before missing for so long...

Reviewing the 2nd of the 911 calls
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1AE6D083DD2192020C26CF73ECC0B527 ?contentId=7059935&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

that's what she was doing...2 weeks after the fact.


WHY was Cindy calling on July 15th to report her car was stolen on...

JUNE 30th?!?!?!?!

JUNE 30th?!?!?!?!? (did she leave on the 9th? the 15th? the 16th....or June 30th)Good catch. That's the date the car was towed. That is a mystery. Too bad Cindy is not doing more interviews, someone could ask her about it. imo

[SavannahStar]

*snipped*
AFAIK, no statement has been made factually giving the exact level of Chloroform found. Nancy is prone to hyperbole, and it seems every other person has their own version of how much was found. Significant amounts doesn't necessarily mean cups full...it may mean clinically sig. amounts...micrograms,etc. The exact amount is definitely a factor in the equasion.
JMO.


Bingo! I have been saying this right along.....

[Jpanda]

Good morning! I wonder if Casey told people that Caylee was abducted from J. Blanchard Park because that's where Casey put her body - then when Caylee is found (hopefully) at that Park, Casey can say that Nanny Z and Samantha killed her and left her there.

RESPECTFULLY SNIPPED
.

ITA about J Blanchard Park. I feel like it's been mentioned by her so many times. I really hope that entire park has been gone over with a fine toothed comb.

I keep remembering how Stephen Grant in his television interviews kept mentioning this one park, and he mentioned it so many times that LE planned a search there and eventually found what was left of Tara.

I just have a feeling that especially with Casey's latest story leading back to J Blanchard Park, there's gotta be at least some clues there.

JMO

[summer4meplz]

I am rewatching George testify at the bond hearing. Casey is quite emotional when she sees him, she begins crying before he even speaks. How can she be moved to tears here looking at her dad, and yet we have not seen one bit of emotion from her regarding a missing Caylee? if you can stand to watch this once again, what does anyone think of this?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US

maybe that's how she always controlled him....with her tears...

[anyonesguess]

Good morning! I wonder if Casey told people that Caylee was abducted from J. Blanchard Park because that's where Casey put her body - then when Caylee is found (hopefully) at that Park, Casey can say that Nanny Z and Samantha killed her and left her there.

I am coming to the opinion that Casey doesn't really feel anything about the loss of Caylee at all. Just a minor inconvenience out of the way. The dynamic of her mind isn't something I can wrap my arms around. I believe she can rationalize the loss of Caylee somehow and really doesn't seem to feel any pain at all. Perhaps her rationalizing that CA is devastated is her way of inflicting punishment on CA.

I hope Casey grasps that she will go to jail for a long long time. I believe LE have tons of info we are not privy to - and I think we will be shocked when we hear it. We've only heard about the online searches of chloroform - I'll bet if she actually ordered it, they have tracked the purchase and delivery. This girl has been lying to amateurs for years but now she is lying to professionals, and I am 100% positive that she will pay for what she has done. No way jurors will buy any of the story in any way, shape or form. When I see her on news clips coming and going I absolutely despise her - and I am usually someone who gives people the benefit of the doubt.

jmo and my rambling thoughts on this very frustrating case.

Yes, Caylee is a throw away child for Casey, that can be replaced in the future if she decides to have another. God forbid.

[summer4meplz]

ITA about J Blanchard Park. I feel like it's been mentioned by her so many times. I really hope that entire park has been gone over with a fine toothed comb.

I keep remembering how Stephen Grant in his television interviews kept mentioning this one park, and he mentioned it so many times that LE planned a search there and eventually found what was left of Tara.

I just have a feeling that especially with Casey's latest story leading back to J Blanchard Park, there's gotta be at least some clues there.

JMO

goodness that must be some scary park...is that where the jogger was killed too?

[happy2bme]

I know this is terrible but I don't believe anything the Anthony's have to say about the trunk- I think they cleaned it out knowing something happened and GA and CA just gave the LE items so it looked like they was cooperating. I think the items proably don't have anything on them and then they can say "see she wasn't in their because no decomp on clothes and items". I hope I am wrong but I believe this was the start of a full blown cover-up and they followed their own script from then to now. imo

Okay can someone tell me how many days before LE picked up Casey's car from the Anthony's?

What I find strange is that (can not remember where I read this or watched) the night 911 was called..when Lee arrived at the A's, Casey's car was parked at the curb. When LE arrived later it was parked in the garage. Why would they move it?

[cutiepatootie61]

I am rewatching George testify at the bond hearing. Casey is quite emotional when she sees him, she begins crying before he even speaks. How can she be moved to tears here looking at her dad, and yet we have not seen one bit of emotion from her regarding a missing Caylee? if you can stand to watch this once again, what does anyone think of this?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US

Quoting myself to say that in the bond hearing it comes out that Casey owns a passport, George had no knowledge of it.