Tuesday Night Discussion - September 9th

[shelbar53]

That's no mystery. All kids learn how to count in Spanish from Dora the Explorer.

I can even count in spanish from watching dora with my granddaughter

[Shellberry]

well Cindy washed the pants and they were not in the trunk and they smelled. and she didnt say the trunk in her 911 call, she said the da#$ CAR smelled like a dead body was in it.

best regards,
Pru
yea, that is what I mean. that mother, somehow kept the smell from everyone, saying the child was in foster care-she knew not to open the trunk.
maybe she blocked it out somehow in her own head.
heck when they picked her up-her 11 or 14 year old daughter was also riding in the car with her.
the car was in impound and the aunt said they had no reason to look in the trunk... they didnt know the child was in the trunk until she broke down and admitted it.
when she was released from the charge she was picked up on, she didnt want to go get her car- and le still didnt think anything of it.

makes me think casey might have been in a battle with herself, looking to see if caylee really was in there? what did she do, how could she have done it? was it a dream?
opening it and shutting it, doing that would make the scent waft out.

I dont know.
very puzzling that a mother could hide her child in the trunk for nearly 2 months, no one ever smelled anything.
yet in caseys situation.... makes me wonder if gp's were involved.

IMO/JMO/etc

[st777jo]

Ok, did nate say both spent the nite there that particular nite? Cindy said she "heard them in the morning" and G said he said goodbye when the left the next morning. Hmmm how could that be if she wasnt even there...another lie?

Caylee never spent the night at the guys place.

[day2day]

And yours was an excellent post as well.

:rose: For you and your little one. You are very special and that little one is as well.

:rose: For CAYLEE


Thanks Spirit..
I am blessed! I cannot believe that these people could not only NOT search for her ..but are going to make MONEY off of this. I just can't believe it..:flamemad:

[bcrmom]

He's another roommate. Watch the rerun if you can. It was a good show with him giving really sweet details about Caylee's personality.


He was a really sweet guy, too. All that "Yes, Ma'am" stuff. LOL I loved how sweetly he talked about Caylee, and he tried to be careful not to talk about her in the past tense.

[kakax]

IIRC the statement was Caylee looked as if she was about to cry but laid down and went back to sleep.
THAT POOR SWEET BABY!! The terror Caylee must have felt being dragged to strange places with strange people so Mommy can party....trying to sleep in the midst of all that insanity.....just sick.

It is very sad. When my kids were that young, we had a hard time going anywhere, even visits to my parents. Strange places, strange beds always messed up their schedule. We could never get them to sleep.

[Marianne]

the idea that they are asking for donations for defense fund really really makes me so mad.:flamemad:

Also that someone would pay them over a millions dollars for their story is disgusting....hopefully if that happens the people that made the offer will loose their butts.:flamemad:


They only get the book deal IF they disclose where the body is otherwise (as by NG guest) there is no money in it.
So Casey will never do that as it will mean the death penalty for her and lotsa moola for her parents.

[Pruddennce]

Thats what I asked earlier. Nate said Casey spent the night there but Cindy said she tucked Casey and Caylee in that night. IIRC

Cindy has said SO MANY things, and the one statement I remember is:

she "knows' where Casey and caylee were sleeping that nite.

...she made that comment when George as struggling thru his June 16 recollection of Casey and Caylee leaving for the day.....a NORMAL day...

best regards,
Pru

[bchand]

I've thought for a very long time now that her parents were the only real babysitter. Other than a occasional friend. Nobody has came forward to fill the nanny role and we know Zanny is a figment of Casey's imagination.

We heard Nate say tonight that she'd sit on her lap top and say she was 'working' - same thing she probably told Geroge, as he sat, clueless, watching his food channel while Cindy really went to work.

Night time comes, oh, there is alot of happenin things in Orlando for an 'event planner' to do. Even concerts on a Tuesday night. She has to represent Universal at the Hard Rock for the Brett Michael after hours bash.

Mom, Dad, gotta go to work, tonight. They need me!!! :rolleyes:


Oh and don't forget George said Casey would pop into the clubs now and then just to be sure her friends were having a good time !!!

And I swear he said that with a straight face.

[Motomom]

I think they know exactly where she is. I think they cleaned up for Casey, one last time. Nothing like having your butt wiped at age 22.

snipped

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Dots, nobody can say it like you do
:)

[Shellberry]

That's no mystery. All kids learn how to count in Spanish from Dora the Explorer.

not true, not from 1- 25 or 45 in one or two episodes.
I cant count in spanish from her and neither can my best friends daughter who is 7, or her 3 year old.


unless caylee was forced to sit in front of the tv and watch her, I dont think that is how she learned it....



imo/jmo

[msgatorslayer]

:lol:I've always laughed at that term "nanny" as well since we all know Casey had no job, let alone one that could afford child care.

Even Cindy would have given Casey the "NG eye" at that term. Even if she did think Casey was working a few month back. The gal didn't even own a car.

[spiritwolf46]

Thanks Spirit..
I am blessed! I cannot believe that these people could not only NOT search for her ..but are going to make MONEY off of this. I just can't believe it..:flamemad:

I know it! I do believe that is was Regina who said it best......blood money! That is exactly what these people are getting!

I am so glad that we, the posters here, cannot phathom the type of behavior from any of these people. It would scare the he77 out of me if anyone could. :chicken:

[5boxersmom]

He's another roommate. Watch the rerun if you can. It was a good show with him giving really sweet details about Caylee's personality.


Thanks. I will catch the rerun.


Caylee:rose:

[Pruddennce]

I've thought for a very long time now that her parents were the only real babysitter. Other than a occasional friend. Nobody has came forward to fill the nanny role and we know Zanny is a figment of Casey's imagination.

We heard Nate say tonight that she'd sit on her lap top and say she was 'working' - same thing she probably told Geroge, as he sat, clueless, watching his food channel while Cindy really went to work.

Night time comes, oh, there is alot of happenin things in Orlando for an 'event planner' to do. Even concerts on a Tuesday night. She has to represent Universal at the Hard Rock for the Brett Michael after hours bash.

Mom, Dad, gotta go to work, tonight. They need me!!! :rolleyes:

right.....and the phony emails to herself to "PROVE" to her parents she really had a job....I think all of her 'outings' were becoming more suspicous thus the phony work communications to firm it up.

in addition to Ryan P....Cindy DID confirm a few weeks prior that she never held a job with RYan at Sports Authority.

what else did Cindy find out?

think she followed Casey?

best regards,
Pru

[bcrmom]

That's what I'm confused about.

Yeah, cuz all the roommates say she was telling them that she was with the nanny, at Disney or Universal, and she was lying through her teeth. Is there anywhere at all where the GPs say that Caylee was with them those nights? Didn't they say that she took Caylee with her at night before she disappeared on the 16th?

I still think it was the 15th. GA lied about the next morning. I think the fight happened that day and she took Caylee and ran like the thief she is.

[kakax]

Oh and don't forget George said Casey would pop into the clubs now and then just to be sure her friends were having a good time !!!

And I swear he said that with a straight face.



And she couldn't be pregnant because she would have had to have sex first. It is amazing how she could snow these parents.

[bchand]

I have to beg for the first 10 minutes to watch and it seem after that, you've already heard all you need to hear. I wonder if her boyfriend Tony wants to continue their relationship? Has he called, sent flowers?


Surely you jest?

:)

[Takotna]

I asked this question the other night, does anyone think that GA and CA aren't helping in the search because they know where she is and they don't want to be there or appear to be stunned when they come upon the place??????

I thought about this after seeing it the other night. IMO G/C won't/can't help in any search where a 'body' could be involved because that would be abandoning Casey (in their minds). The wagons are circled and they are concentrating on what they have - Casey.

The related problem is they are prevented from acting on the fantasy Caylee is alive because Casey will not give anyone a vaild starting point. As a result, the only thing they can do (to keep up the pretense and support Casey) is sit a home, doing nothing.

If they searched or helped TES, the question: 'If you thought Caylee was alive, why were you searching in swamps?' would be impossible for them to answer.

It pains me to say, I don't think Caylee is even a consideration anymore. Casey is their focus. AllMO

[Shellberry]

Dots, nobody can say it like you do
:)

LOL-(but not really!) DITTO!!!!

[ccat]

:lol:I've always laughed at that term "nanny" as well since we all know Casey had no job, let alone one that could afford child care.

It's another example of her values and her arrogance. She took from others to satisfy her wants. No one gets in her way, not even her child!
Maybe she wanted to get rid of her because she didn't know who the father was and didn't want to be reminded. (Though I really feel it was all to punish Cindy.)

[Joan Weiss]

barf dont think so jmoMe either. Just when you think it can't get any worse. hammer

[beetlebrow]

Im confused. Didnt GA say casey and caylee spend sunday nite {fathers day} at his house? Then I thought the roommate said casey spent the nite there. But I dont know if he said both or just casey, i have to review the transcripts tomorrow.


Yes he did and yes George did.....hmmm.....I think I know who was telling the truth;)

[kakax]

Question about the pings....does anyone feel this is "new" information to LE or just "new" information to the press? Wouldn't they have had these cell phone pings earlier than now?

[spiritwolf46]

It is very sad. When my kids were that young, we had a hard time going anywhere, even visits to my parents. Strange places, strange beds always messed up their schedule. We could never get them to sleep.


ITA! When my kids were young, I would not allow ANYONE to watch them, other than my mother or DH's mother. Maybe that was a little harsh, but I would not allow them with just anyone. They are 30, 29 and 23 now and are doing well. My grand daughter is 4 and beleive me when I say that I know WHO is watching her, have phone numbers and so on.

I just cannot grasp anything that the Anthony's have ever done with this little angel. Nothing. I could never imagine my grand daughter going to a "nanny" and never meeting her, never having her phone number, etc.

[concernedmom]

I might donate one cent. It will cost more than that to process the check and acknowledge the receipt.

I think people were doing that on the Drew Peterson defense site that didnt last but a day or so. At least they were saying they were on FSP website.

[shelbar53]

I wonder when the results of the bones that were found will be in. I wonder what kind of cloths were found. Why mention that particular find on national TV when im sure there were tons of other suspicious finds by other searchers.

[Shellberry]

You might have missed it when I said it earlier. Nate said on NG that Caylee learned to count in Spanish on Dora the Explorer.

oh, I did miss that, thank you for posting.

[bcrmom]

Cindy has said SO MANY things, and the one statement I remember is:

she "knows' where Casey and caylee were sleeping that nite.

...she made that comment when George as struggling thru his June 16 recollection of Casey and Caylee leaving for the day.....a NORMAL day...

best regards,
Pru

That part has to be a huge lie because we know Casey got busted that weekend for stealing the money from the ggps. They had a huge fight. No way did Casey and Caylee stay there, and Cindy wouldn't have tucked Casey in, unless she did it with a hatchet.

[spiritwolf46]

My question is how do they keep up with all these lies they tell do they keep a journal or what:shrug:

IMO, they could not have kept a journal or the lies would not have been so far stretched and quite a few of them caught. :shrug:

[marshmallow]

[QUOTE=jennyanydots;12089707]Caylee loved Dora the Explorer.. And says wattaup dude; to greet people :rose: Omg I am going to lose it.

She loves to pick out the letters on the keyboard, very smart. QUOTE]
<snipped>


I agree these are things the family should've told us

[concernedmom]

Question about the pings....does anyone feel this is "new" information to LE or just "new" information to the press? Wouldn't they have had these cell phone pings earlier than now?


LE might have told the media pings but Im thinking somethinhg else brought this on. Maybe someone saw her there?:shrug:

[bchand]

My question is how do they keep up with all these lies they tell do they keep a journal or what:shrug:

If they don't, WE do. I must organize my bookmarks.

I don't care where they hold this trial, the jury will be going Waaaaa?

[shelbar53]

My question is how do they keep up with all these lies they tell do they keep a journal or what:shrug:

they are not keeping up with all the lies, thats why there are so many conflicting stories.

[Joan Weiss]

not true, not from 1- 25 or 45 in one or two episodes.
I cant count in spanish from her and neither can my best friends daughter who is 7, or her 3 year old.


unless caylee was forced to sit in front of the tv and watch her, I dont think that is how she learned it....



imo/jmoOn the other hand, she and Casey stayed with Ricardo for a couple of months. imo

[Mairi II]

Just got back and have a question. I saw a little of NG. Is Nate Clint? Or a different roommate?

TIA

Caylee:rose:

I think several people think Nate and Clint are one in the same. I don't think so, though - Clint had a skinnier head.

[bchand]

That part has to be a huge lie because we know Casey got busted that weekend for stealing the money from the ggps. They had a huge fight. No way did Casey and Caylee stay there, and Cindy wouldn't have tucked Casey in, unless she did it with a hatchet.

Of COURSE she didn't tuck Casey in. Can you believe some of these stories that family has told?

[Joan Weiss]

LE might have told the media pings but Im thinking somethinhg else brought this on. Maybe someone saw her there?:shrug:They'll never tell. ;) Maybe at trial, imo.

[why-me]

My question is how do they keep up with all these lies they tell do they keep a journal or what:shrug:

I am just wondering if they ever thought this story, and I use that term loosely, would ever get so big with so many people getting involved, picking apart the timeline. They all think they are smarter than everyone else.

[st777jo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by trich
the idea that they are asking for donations for defense fund really really makes me so mad.

Also that someone would pay them over a millions dollars for their story is disgusting....hopefully if that happens the people that made the offer will loose their butts.

I wonder on their donation site if they would have the B**** to put in a comment section?

[bcrmom]

On the other hand, she and Casey stayed with Ricardo for a couple of months. imo

She could have been very precocious and really did learn things that fast. There are kids who just naturally pick up languages easily. If she was half as smart as she was beautiful, I'd say it's possible.

[Joan Weiss]

I think several people think Nate and Clint are one in the same. I don't think so, though - Clint had a skinnier head.Not Clint. imo

[st777jo]

They only pay per view I would watch is some of those protesters in the boxing ring with Casey:D

I'd get in there for free, no pay per view.

[desmom]

I think several people think Nate and Clint are one in the same. I don't think so, though - Clint had a skinnier head.

Clint's interview on Greta 8/13:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1vYOomwdxE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTnf1e9idE&feature=related

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oq9wcuuZs&feature=related

[OneUp]

not true, not from 1- 25 or 45 in one or two episodes.
I cant count in spanish from her and neither can my best friends daughter who is 7, or her 3 year old.


unless caylee was forced to sit in front of the tv and watch her, I dont think that is how she learned it....



imo/jmoI have a niece with Prader-Willi syndrome who has an electronic Dora toy that is like a computer keboard looking thing ( which drives me batty..) and I *think* it counts to 100. It is for kids to about age 6.
Maybe where she learned, maybe from a friend...cute to hear her I
bet.:(

[bluwaters]

We both know she will be lucky to get a low rent, wet behind the ears public defender. Her childs story barely made the news....Did any of the articles even offer him the dignity of a name?
Of course, he is not missing, and his tiny body will at least be laid to rest, that family will know where to go to honor their babies memory.
His name is James. Every article that I have read stated his name.
No one knew he was missing. They all thought that James was with other relatives out of state. His body was found one day after he was reported missing. Summer, the mother, told authorities when they questioned her that he was in the trunk of her car. It is believed that she killed him on May 29 and he was in the trunk ever since. He was only reported missing for one day, unlike Caylee who is still missing.

:rose: for James
:rose: and Caylee

Woman charged with murder in Great Falls

http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=8973935&nav=menu227_1

There is no mention of Summer's car having a terrible odor while it was held on the impound lot.
I wonder if any of the facts of the James' case, regarding the body in the car, will impact Caylee's case at all?
It is so unbelievable to me that a mother could do such a thing, yet now there appear to be two of them during the same time period.
:(

[Joan Weiss]

She could have been very precocious and really did learn things that fast. There are kids who just naturally pick up languages easily. If she was half as smart as she was beautiful, I'd say it's possible.Yes. Didn't Nate say she wasn't the normal 2 year old?

[Reenbean]

Even Cindy would have given Casey the "NG eye" at that term. Even if she did think Casey was working a few month back. The gal didn't even own a car.

That's what makes it so infuriating when Cindy spews her excuses!! "Zanny" was the "nanny" for the last two years?? Who was paying for child care? I'd like to think we all know how costly child care is, let alone a NANNY. That term implies full-time care, even live-in. Casey had NO job, Cindy KNEW this because she called Casey's childhood friend Ryan to inquire if she was working with him since Casey told her that, and he told her NO, she NEVER worked there. This is BEFORE Caylee was allegedly missing. She warned him in that same conversation to stay away from Casey because she's a pathological liar and sociopath IIRC. This family knew way before how demented Casey is. JMO of course.

[kakax]

NG tonight's episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O95OEYwGJxI

[Motomom]

That's exactly right; get out of bed, get dressed, live life? It just doesnt happen; and I cant stress enough certainly no tanning.
:chicken:
my heart is broken, already but of course this case and a few others; tend to break what is left for sure.
I dont know if I can get the picture of Casey strutting around, out of my head. I think I want to strangle her; she's lucky that Im not protesting in her state, and am just protesting using the written word.


Speaking of the strutt, when they replay over and over her rearrest, they do it in slow motion and she has that hip sway..it's so cocky or something..course it's slow motion so it really emphasizes it. I can't stand to look at the..... :flamemad:

[Elle]

Pruddence,


Thank you:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Of COURSE she didn't tuck Casey in. Can you believe some of these stories that family has told?I had to laugh when she said that. The girl is 22 years old! :eek:

WTH was going on in that house? :confused:

[day2day]

Oh! Easy Peasy, I'd take her one in the cage fighting. IT would be head slamming good fun, let me tell you :shrug:

Don't forget your..hammer

[~jomomma~]

My question is how do they keep up with all these lies they tell do they keep a journal or what:shrug:

they make up a new one to cover the old one....just like Casey does!

[Reenbean]

Oh! Easy Peasy, I'd take her one in the cage fighting. IT would be head slamming good fun, let me tell you :shrug:

:beer: Now there's something I'd pay to see! Go dots!!

[OneUp]

Question about the pings....does anyone feel this is "new" information to LE or just "new" information to the press? Wouldn't they have had these cell phone pings earlier than now?IDK...someone here did wonder if perhaps that "BlackJack" was found...if so, maybe it was on a seperate Sim and cell plan with it's own set of information?...I think we will just have to wonder why the new search area just now.
I feel it may have to do with the searching...mostly just because I want those who searched to feel directly responsible if Caylee is found in those woods.
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

I think several people think Nate and Clint are one in the same. I don't think so, though - Clint had a skinnier head.Clint wasn't blacked out, IIRC.

[bcrmom]

Yes. Didn't Nate say she wasn't the normal 2 year old?

Yep. I think she had to be very bright. Maybe too smart and was talking too much for Casey's comfort level.

I had smart kids but none of them could pick out letters on the keyboard at 2.

I am sure Cindy worked with her a lot, teaching her things that Casey was too dumb to learn as a child. I'm sorry. That was mean. Probably true, but mean. LOL

I have often thought that Cindy wanted a chance to raise Caylee the way she had wanted to turn out. Second chance at a daughter. I'm sure she doted on that baby endlessly. Why the heck she's doing what she's doing now is beyond reason. Or sanity. IMO at all that.

[msgatorslayer]

right.....and the phony emails to herself to "PROVE" to her parents she really had a job....I think all of her 'outings' were becoming more suspicous thus the phony work communications to firm it up.

in addition to Ryan P....Cindy DID confirm a few weeks prior that she never held a job with RYan at Sports Authority.

what else did Cindy find out?

think she followed Casey?

best regards,
Pru

ITA with everything, Pru. Except, no, I don't think Cindy had enough time to follow her. She had her own real job during the day. And IMO, Cindy was on to Casey but keeping it from George. She couldn't run out at night to spy on Casey without making him wonder what she was up to.

I also think Cindy would have found Casey much sooner if she had been following her.

[Shellberry]

I'm not part of a mob, although I do admit I watch the cam occasionally but I surely wouldn't pay even one red cent to watch it.:no:

I sure as heck wouldnt pay to watch it.
we dont have pay per view, we barely have basic cable, lol



imo/jmo

[why-me]

NG on again for those who have sat dish

[bcrmom]

I had to laugh when she said that. The girl is 22 years old! :eek:

WTH was going on in that house? :confused:

I think the flooding started before the hurrycanes started hitting FL. Must have been a LOT of rain cuz DeNial river is running smack dab through the middle of that house.

[kakax]

IDK...someone here did wonder if perhaps that "BlackJack" was found...if so, maybe it was on a seperate Sim and cell plan with it's own set of information?...I think we will just have to wonder why the new search area just now.
I feel it may have to do with the searching...mostly just because I want those who searched to feel directly responsible if Caylee is found in those woods.
JMO.



I just watched some of the NG show and you are right. LE is holding how they got this information close to the vest. I always have to watch these shows twice...I miss so much the first time rofl!


ETA: Kathy Bellich (SP?) said that it was apparently from cell phone pings.

[Shellberry]

ITA with everything, Pru. Except, no, I don't think Cindy had enough time to follow her. She had her own real job during the day. And IMO, Cindy was on to Casey but keeping it from George. She couldn't run out at night to spy on Casey without making him wonder what she was up to.

I also think Cindy would have found Casey much sooner if she had been following her.

I still think cindy/george kicked her out and that is where the 'I already gave you 30 days ' comes in.
it doesnt take a detective to figure out what someone is doing on a computer right in your own home, especially if it is 'their' computer & they dont empty history, delete cookies or offline files, etc.
(trust me, I know, lol)

Interesting, I didnt think about cindy maybe checking up on her online habits...


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Who, has the connection to this campus, does anyone know? What has lead them to search this area anyway. I hope they overheard something; I'm sure they are bugged, I hoped they all realized that way too late.

Cannot believe Lee had a shirt on that said Keep Staring. Yeah, thanks we will because freaks make us stare!!!Lee's a piece of work, too. I always thought so. jmo

[Pruddennce]

That part has to be a huge lie because we know Casey got busted that weekend for stealing the money from the ggps. They had a huge fight. No way did Casey and Caylee stay there, and Cindy wouldn't have tucked Casey in, unless she did it with a hatchet.

well, actually no bcrmom...Cindy found that out weeks before...she called Ryan P and told HIM that Casey stole from her grandmom, and she told him other things, and confirmed thru him she never did work at Sports Authority with him...and asked him to stop talking to Casey so he wouldnt get hurt.

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

Lee's a piece of work, too. I always thought so. jmo

Yea I have read a few things about him ..he is "something"..hammer
jmo

[StickyBeak]

I thought about this after seeing it the other night. IMO G/C won't/can't help in any search where a 'body' could be involved because that would be abandoning Casey (in their minds). The wagons are circled and they are concentrating on what they have - Casey.

The related problem is they are prevented from acting on the fantasy Caylee is alive because Casey will not give anyone a vaild starting point. As a result, the only thing they can do (to keep up the pretense and support Casey) is sit a home, doing nothing.

If they searched or helped TES, the question: 'If you thought Caylee was alive, why were you searching in swamps?' would be impossible for them to answer.

It pains me to say, I don't think Caylee is even a consideration anymore. Casey is their focus. AllMO

ITA with you, they are saving Face if anything, living out their lies. I would have bet my bottom dollar, brother Lee was standing up for Caylee, now, think he has joined Casey, the Money Maker in the family. How ironic.
Can't imagine how these people are affording the normal cost of living since they were supposed in dire straights before the made for TV movie deals came along. I can imagine normal people missing a child not being able to focus on anything but finding that child, not living their normal routine. You still have to maintain your household, How do they go on day after day as if the only problem in their little world is the protesters on the property.
Cindy is a fake, there is no grandmom who is involved with their grandchild who does not know the name, address and phone number of a caregiver in case of an emergency. :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Who, has the connection to this campus, does anyone know? What has lead them to search this area anyway. I hope they overheard something; I'm sure they are bugged, I hoped they all realized that way too late.

Cannot believe Lee had a shirt on that said Keep Staring. Yeah, thanks we will because freaks make us stare!!!It appears that Casey cruised three areas, looking for a place to dump little Caylee. I'm looking at the map on NG. imo

[concernedmom]

Lee's a piece of work, too. I always thought so. jmo

Joan do you remember a case a few months ago where this little boy (Im thinking Georgia) was molested and murdered by a SE and the mom and pops were involved too? Pops helped Jr molest while mom sat and ---? This family reminds me of them in a way.
jmo

[why-me]

OK this is mean but Lee drops Casey at JB's office and she gets out of his car and runs in the office. LOL there was no one out there to even get close. Maybe she will start talking when the crowds go away and she gets lonely.

[Pruddennce]

I still think cindy/george kicked her out and that is where the 'I already gave you 30 days ' comes in.
it doesnt take a detective to figure out what someone is doing on a computer right in your own home, especially if it is 'their' computer & they dont empty history, delete cookies or offline files, etc.
(trust me, I know, lol)

Interesting, I didnt think about cindy maybe checking up on her online habits...


imo/jmo

and there's that number 30 again....Amy mentioned it in her statement...stating Casey told her that Cindy 'had 30 days' to rescind the offer of the home deal...

interesting how Casey pulls that number into the 'story'....

and Cindy says the same thing in the 911 call....

best regards,
Pru

[bchand]

Speaking of the strutt, when they replay over and over her rearrest, they do it in slow motion and she has that hip sway..it's so cocky or something..course it's slow motion so it really emphasizes it. I can't stand to look at the..... :flamemad:


She probably has practiced that walk in front of her mirror at home.

btw Happy Belated Birthday - heard we missed yours yesterday !

[bluwaters]

Quote:
Originally Posted by trich
the idea that they are asking for donations for defense fund really really makes me so mad.

Also that someone would pay them over a millions dollars for their story is disgusting....hopefully if that happens the people that made the offer will loose their butts.

I wonder on their donation site if they would have the B**** to put in a comment section?

I doubt it. They learned about comments from all the MySpace accounts they either closed or took private.

[Joan Weiss]

ITA with you, they are saving Face if anything, living out their lies. I would have bet my bottom dollar, brother Lee was standing up for Caylee, now, think he has joined Casey, the Money Maker in the family. How ironic.
Can't imagine how these people are affording the normal cost of living since they were supposed in dire straights before the made for TV movie deals came along. I can imagine normal people missing a child not being able to focus on anything but finding that child, not living their normal routine. You still have to maintain your household, How do they go on day after day as if the only problem in their little world is the protesters on the property.
Cindy is a fake, there is no grandmom who is involved with their grandchild who does not know the name, address and phone number of a caregiver in case of an emergency. :shrug:I watched the videos of them all on 20/20. When Cindy was handling Caylee, I noticed at the parts where I would have kissed her sweet cheek, Cindy didn't. That made me feel weird. imo

[kakax]

Kathy, reporter, says that UCF is easily accesible off of a toll road. Hmm. Is their EZ pass down there? We don't have toll roads, so I have no clue how they work. Do they have video tapes?

[KimTheGreat]

Kathy, reporter, says that UCF is easily accesible off of a toll road. Hmm. Is their EZ pass down there? We don't have toll roads, so I have no clue how they work. Do they have video tapes?

They do have EZ pass thing lane. I remember it from my trip to the Orlando area.

[Pruddennce]

I watched the videos of them all on 20/20. When Cindy was handling Caylee, I noticed at the parts where I would have kissed her sweet cheek, Cindy didn't. That made me feel weird. imo

I know this is irrelevant, but Im saying it anyway....that annoying laugh on the video......gawd who was that????

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

It is all fun & games to them when they arent playing the victim it is antagonizing the public & media.I thought Lee enjoyed the media interviews waaay too much. imo

[msgatorslayer]

I still think cindy/george kicked her out and that is where the 'I already gave you 30 days ' comes in.
it doesnt take a detective to figure out what someone is doing on a computer right in your own home, especially if it is 'their' computer & they dont empty history, delete cookies or offline files, etc.
(trust me, I know, lol)

Interesting, I didnt think about cindy maybe checking up on her online habits...


imo/jmo

I thought of her checking Casey's online activity when the bogus Universal e-mail came to light. Wonder what other kinds of bogus 'work' links, projects, and BS she had.

:lol:Heck, the girl may have really been working her fake job!!!

[concernedmom]

Kathy, reporter, says that UCF is easily accesible off of a toll road. Hmm. Is their EZ pass down there? We don't have toll roads, so I have no clue how they work. Do they have video tapes?

As they pointed out tonight on NG, soil up under the car will also be a clue where she was.

[bchand]

that is the absolute crux of this case.

Casey is the star of her own movie.

George and Cindy are the supporting players. That's why they keep going out to pound in their stupid stakes. They are fighting for camera time.


And don't forget Lee. He's loving it too IMO.

[bluwaters]

That's what makes it so infuriating when Cindy spews her excuses!! "Zanny" was the "nanny" for the last two years?? Who was paying for child care? I'd like to think we all know how costly child care is, let alone a NANNY. That term implies full-time care, even live-in. Casey had NO job, Cindy KNEW this because she called Casey's childhood friend Ryan to inquire if she was working with him since Casey told her that, and he told her NO, she NEVER worked there. This is BEFORE Caylee was allegedly missing. She warned him in that same conversation to stay away from Casey because she's a pathological liar and sociopath IIRC. This family knew way before how demented Casey is. JMO of course.

For all of Cindy's protestations that she had no reason to have any of Zanny the nanny's contact info, she sure seemed to be in contact with Casey's friends a lot. She wanted to know Casey's every move, perhaps because of the upcoming custody showdown. Yet Cindy insists that she had no reason to meet or have contact info with the nanny.
That makes no sense to me.
:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Oh christ Joan I see that. I know we all looked earlier at the pings, but this map had an awful lot of them on there that I'd not seen before.

Yeah, LE will put this together. I think they may just find her. Does Lee have any connection to that campus?Jenny, I think that's why Caylee's body was in the car so long. Casey was afraid to unload her where she'd be seen. I think she drove to all those areas, trying to find an appropriate place. jmo

[StickyBeak]

If they don't, WE do. I must organize my bookmarks.

I don't care where they hold this trial, the jury will be going Waaaaa?

I am hoping for Lee County change of Venue, and hope I get called for Jury Duty. Not alot of headlines further south but people are talking. :lol:

[OneUp]

His name is James. Every article that I have read stated his name.
No one knew he was missing. They all thought that James was with other relatives out of state. His body was found one day after he was reported missing. Summer, the mother, told authorities when they questioned her that he was in the trunk of her car. It is believed that she killed him on May 29 and he was in the trunk ever since. He was only reported missing for one day, unlike Caylee who is still missing.

:rose: for James
:rose: and Caylee

Woman charged with murder in Great Falls

http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=8973935&nav=menu227_1

There is no mention of Summer's car having a terrible odor while it was held on the impound lot.
I wonder if any of the facts of the James' case, regarding the body in the car, will impact Caylee's case at all?
It is so unbelievable to me that a mother could do such a thing, yet now there appear to be two of them during the same time period.
TY, I didn't remember reading his name in the article...that makes me sadder yet ( my forgetfulness). He certainly deserves to be remembered. I cannot excuse my inability to recall that as I did read the entire article.
Still, there are differences just in the fact that he was found when his story came out, and Caylee has not been found yet. I'm choosing to chalk the notoriety of this case up to the mystery it still holds....though I strongly suspect that as is often the case, the media feels they know what "we" like and go after their stories accordingly. I know they can't cover them all....Glad I don't choose which stories are newsworthy.
:rose:For all the children whose names we will never hear that have been forsaken by their parents.

You may be leaning in the right direction, certainly those who felt there was no way Casey could heartlessly murder her childand drive around with the remains in her car have ahd that image shattered by the revelations in James' story. And to the naysayers on this board who didn't know how the car could be towed and no odor noted...i guess they have their answer.
JMO.Thanks again blu for setting me straight.

[spiritwolf46]

I thought Lee enjoyed the media interviews waaay too much. imo

So did I, Joan. And the way he laughed at inappropriate times made me shudder.

[joolz]

Lee's a piece of work, too. I always thought so. jmo


I was so wrong about Lee. At the very beginning of this when he visited Casey in jail I honestly thought that he was trying to get some information out of her that would help LE. hammer- me hitting me.

Is there anyone in this nuclear family that isn't crazy? No, wait, I know the answer. I just don't understand it. :(

[bcrmom]

well, actually no bcrmom...Cindy found that out weeks before...she called Ryan P and told HIM that Casey stole from her grandmom, and she told him other things, and confirmed thru him she never did work at Sports Authority with him...and asked him to stop talking to Casey so he wouldnt get hurt.

best regards,
Pru

Huh. Well, just shows to go ya not to believe everything ya hear, right? Cuz I heard and read that FD weekend was when she got caught and that's why the neighbor heard the fight that weekend. That's what the reporters are saying.

I dunno. I give up. I'll wait for the trial and/or movie to figger all this out. :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

For all of Cindy's protestations that she had no reason to have any of Zanny the nanny's contact info, she sure seemed to be in contact with Casey's friends a lot. She wanted to know Casey's every move, perhaps because of the upcoming custody showdown. Yet Cindy insists that she had no reason to meet or have contact info with the nanny.
That makes no sense to me.
:shrug:I agree. It looks to me that they had a strange relationship, as in "Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies." jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Joan do you remember a case a few months ago where this little boy (Im thinking Georgia) was molested and murdered by a SE and the mom and pops were involved too? Pops helped Jr molest while mom sat and ---? This family reminds me of them in a way.
jmo

:eek:I was thinking of that family a couple of weeks ago. And for the same reasons as you. More of a cover-up with this family though. As I don't think the parents harmed Caylee. I can't remember the names though.

[why-me]

Im telling you when she shoved that cake into casey's mouth, set her off balance while she was holding Caylee, I wanted to slap her; honest.

What I saw, was someone who has no boundaries in life. Casey yells out Mom! Is smiling but her body language, she back up and away, tried to avoid her. I doubt Caylee knew who her real mother was; or what a proper relationship with a mom was really like. The lines were blurred here Im afraid. It really bothered me. It didnt bother some but It really bothered me. I agree where she should have been snuggled she wasnt.

And yet Cindy says on the stand at the original bond hearing that "Casey is my best friend."

[concernedmom]

Huh. Well, just shows to go ya not to believe everything ya hear, right? Cuz I heard and read that FD weekend was when she got caught and that's why the neighbor heard the fight that weekend. That's what the reporters are saying.

I dunno. I give up. I'll wait for the trial and/or movie to figger all this out. :shrug:



:lol:
That was funny.

[Shellberry]

On the other hand, she and Casey stayed with Ricardo for a couple of months. imo


I have a niece with Prader-Willi syndrome who has an electronic Dora toy that is like a computer keboard looking thing ( which drives me batty..) and I *think* it counts to 100. It is for kids to about age 6.
Maybe where she learned, maybe from a friend...cute to hear her I
bet


I really dont know- I think sesame st is more ..'useful (?)' in teaching kids to count because they focus on one number or letter during each show.
dora isnt like that.
anyhoo--maybe caylee was forced to sit and watch tv wherever she was. could be they got her dora episodes on dvd or whatever because that is a show she liked
although, every 2 year old I know, or 2 year old who is now 'older' didnt have a fave show at that time.

I wonder if casey forced her to watch dora, for one of her hispanic b/f's she had? maybe to have them feel closer to her? or have caylee watch the show to prove something to them, maybe to someone who didnt want a child?
or something along those lines, I really wouldnt doubt it.
this whole case is too crazy

I really dont know, just thinking aloud here.
imo/jmo/etc

[day2day]

As they pointed out tonight on NG, soil up under the car will also be a clue where she was.

I hope so! LE has been awfully quiet this week. :(

[Joan Weiss]

I was so wrong about Lee. At the very beginning of this when he visited Casey in jail I honestly thought that he was trying to get some information out of her that would help LE. hammer- me hitting me.

Is there anyone in this nuclear family that isn't crazy? No, wait, I know the answer. I just don't understand it. :(That's it, they all came from the same mold. Why would Lee be any different? imo

[concernedmom]

:eek:I was thinking of that family a couple of weeks ago. And for the same reasons as you. More of a cover-up with this family though. As I don't think the parents harmed Caylee. I can't remember the names though.
Its the sick perverse way this whole family doesnt seem to want Caylee found to cover up for Casey.

[Joan Weiss]

As they pointed out tonight on NG, soil up under the car will also be a clue where she was.Gee, I brought that up weeks ago. What took them so long? ;)

[tiny paw-prints]

Anyone have a map of UCF Campus area they are searching? I cant do google earth I get motion sick.. TIA

I think they're searching for Caylee in areas around UCF where the Missing Jogger Nichole Ganguzza, 26, was found dead on June 11.

[cassidy]

That's it, they all came from the same mold. Why would Lee be any different? imo

I never thought he was. Didn't trust him from the get go.

[bchand]

And yet Cindy says on the stand at the original bond hearing that "Casey is my best friend."

and she said in a tv interview that Casey was a "joy" as a child and still is.

Her idea of joy and mine must be very different.

[need2no]

Clint wasn't blacked out, IIRC.

No, he wasn't, and these 2 are not one in the same. desmom posted the Greta interview at Utube upthread a few posts.

[OneUp]

Oh christ Joan I see that. I know we all looked earlier at the pings, but this map had an awful lot of them on there that I'd not seen before.

Yeah, LE will put this together. I think they may just find her. Does Lee have any connection to that campus?
I'm probably going to kick myself for saying this, but...
Maybe George worked security on a college campus?

[bcrmom]

Im telling you when she shoved that cake into casey's mouth, set her off balance while she was holding Caylee, I wanted to slap her; honest.

What I saw, was someone who has no boundaries in life. Casey yells out Mom! Is smiling but her body language, she back up and away, tried to avoid her. I doubt Caylee knew who her real mother was; or what a proper relationship with a mom was really like. The lines were blurred here Im afraid. It really bothered me. It didnt bother some but It really bothered me. I agree where she should have been snuggled she wasnt.

I read on this board some people saying that that scene bothered them before I watched it myself. I didn't see it like that. It looked like a light-hearted, teasing moment when she touched the ice cream to Casey's face. Heck, my bf and I have done stuff like that before. My son and I do stuff like that to each other all the time. Then we LOBO about it. I dunno. :shrug: JMO

[barskin&co.]

I was so wrong about Lee. At the very beginning of this when he visited Casey in jail I honestly thought that he was trying to get some information out of her that would help LE. hammer- me hitting me.

Is there anyone in this nuclear family that isn't crazy? No, wait, I know the answer. I just don't understand it. :(


For a long time, Lee has disturbed me more than G & C. He is too cool. Too casual. He laughs with reporters. He seems creepy.

[FoxySly]

I think they know she is dead. Its all about saving face and Casey at this point.


~Snip

IA but what face?
Dang it seems that the 3 of them have so very many faces & I ain't found one that's appealing IMO.

Sly

[day2day]

OK I just got my tv from my dbf...(I hid the remote UNDER me) **SHHH*** turned on Nancy and this guy is blacked out? Why oh why can't we see his face?!

[Joan Weiss]

No, he wasn't, and these 2 are not one in the same. desmom posted the Greta interview at Utube upthread a few posts.Thank you, I see that now.

[kakax]

TY, I didn't remember reading his name in the article...that makes me sadder yet ( my forgetfulness). He certainly deserves to be remembered. I cannot excuse my inability to recall that as I did read the entire article.
Still, there are differences just in the fact that he was found when his story came out, and Caylee has not been found yet. I'm choosing to chalk the notoriety of this case up to the mystery it still holds....though I strongly suspect that as is often the case, the media feels they know what "we" like and go after their stories accordingly. I know they can't cover them all....Glad I don't choose which stories are newsworthy.
:rose:For all the children whose names we will never hear that have been forsaken by their parents.

You may be leaning in the right direction, certainly those who felt there was no way Casey could heartlessly murder her childand drive around with the remains in her car have ahd that image shattered by the revelations in James' story. And to the naysayers on this board who didn't know how the car could be towed and no odor noted...i guess they have their answer.
JMO.Thanks again blu for setting me straight.



(rose) You did good. Ty for reminding of us of all the children out there that are missing, hurting now, or have been murdered. :( They can't help themselves...it is tragic.

All of us as parents can remember our children as babies and toddlers, watching our children sleep, running our hands over their soft tufts of hair, holding their little fingers, feeling them grasp your own finger. There is nothing more precious in this world than that. How such ugliness can befall such a tender, sweet baby is so far beyond my comprehension.

:(

[bluwaters]

Kathy, reporter, says that UCF is easily accesible off of a toll road. Hmm. Is their EZ pass down there? We don't have toll roads, so I have no clue how they work. Do they have video tapes?
Yep. It is called Sun Pass in FL. There was talk early on about checking Casey's Sun Pass hits, then nothing. I don't know Orlando well and DH got a Sun Pass for the few times a year that business takes him there. We can never get around without going through lots and lots of tolls.
However, another poster from nearby Orlando posted that she avoids the tolls by using Google Maps when she is in Orland. Somehow, I don't see Casey bothering to go around the tolls.
I hope that LE has her Sun Pass hits and that they are just not releasing it.

[concernedmom]

I'm probably going to kick myself for saying this, but...
Maybe George worked security on a college campus?

Humn. Do we know where GA works or has worked in the past few months??

[day2day]

For a long time, Lee has disturbed me more than G & C. He is too cool. Too casual. He laughs with reporters. He seems creepy.

ITA ...And he calls Lenny-daily..!!

[desmom]

Google Earth of UCF

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee4/desmom-2007/UCF.jpg

[OneUp]

For all of Cindy's protestations that she had no reason to have any of Zanny the nanny's contact info, she sure seemed to be in contact with Casey's friends a lot. She wanted to know Casey's every move, perhaps because of the upcoming custody showdown. Yet Cindy insists that she had no reason to meet or have contact info with the nanny.
That makes no sense to me.
:shrug:ITA, she tracked down Ryan P. to ask about Casey's Faux job with him and to tell him she was a sociopath. But she never wanted to meet or do a background check on this nanny?
I call bull.
JMO.

[kakax]

For a long time, Lee has disturbed me more than G & C. He is too cool. Too casual. He laughs with reporters. He seems creepy.

I still haven't watched 20/20. I need to do that. I assume the show has the videos on their website. Going to see if I can find them.

[~jomomma~]

I think they're searching for Caylee in areas around UCF where the Missing Jogger Nichole Ganguzza, 26, was found dead on June 11.

i thought that was in Blanchard Park? :confused:

[kakax]

Google Earth of UCF

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee4/desmom-2007/UCF.jpg

Thanks des!!

[need2no]

Well Im sorry she's the biggest LIAR I've ever had the misforturne to see. On camera, that is. O M G!!

TY Nate for going on NG and telling us; who Caylee really was. Geez.

That book offer is some offer from overseas, it's bizarre, I doubt that will pan out at all.


I wonder how Casey, (as well as Cindy and George) feel about so many of Casey's 'good friends' spilling it all out......
Hopefully Casey is sweating it fearful they may all come forward shortly, since the others are finally talking.

Love it, love it, love it!!!

[bcrmom]

and she said in a tv interview that Casey was a "joy" as a child and still is.

Her idea of joy and mine must be very different.

What? You mean your idea of JOY isn't having a root canal every week for the rest of your life? Without the benefit of Novocaine? What's wrong with you?:shrug:


:tongue:

[Reenbean]

I hope so! LE has been awfully quiet this week. :(

I noticed that too. I'm thinking LE may be getting their ducks in a row to charge her with murder, at the very least. With as much evidence that's been leaked so far, I'm betting there's just as much that won't be known until formal charges.

[concernedmom]

i thought that was in Blanchard Park? :confused:
I think thats what Casey said when LE were questioning her.:confused:

[kakax]

hammerGoogle Earth of UCF

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee4/desmom-2007/UCF.jpg

Looks like a golf course directly beside the campus. I wonder if they are looking to the left of that.

[day2day]

I noticed that too. I'm thinking LE may be getting their ducks in a row to charge her with murder, at the very least. With as much evidence that's been leaked so far, I'm betting there's just as much that won't be known until formal charges.

I pray you are right!

[bluwaters]

TY, I didn't remember reading his name in the article...that makes me sadder yet ( my forgetfulness). He certainly deserves to be remembered. I cannot excuse my inability to recall that as I did read the entire article.
Still, there are differences just in the fact that he was found when his story came out, and Caylee has not been found yet. I'm choosing to chalk the notoriety of this case up to the mystery it still holds....though I strongly suspect that as is often the case, the media feels they know what "we" like and go after their stories accordingly. I know they can't cover them all....Glad I don't choose which stories are newsworthy.
:rose:For all the children whose names we will never hear that have been forsaken by their parents.

You may be leaning in the right direction, certainly those who felt there was no way Casey could heartlessly murder her childand drive around with the remains in her car have ahd that image shattered by the revelations in James' story. And to the naysayers on this board who didn't know how the car could be towed and no odor noted...i guess they have their answer.
JMO.Thanks again blu for setting me straight.

Awww. I wasn't trying to set you, of all people, straight. It's just that I remembered his name. Probably because it is my Dad's first name, my Mom's maiden name, and was my middle name before I was married.
James sticks in my brain. My teachers never knew at the beginning of a school year if I was a girl or boy!
God bless all of the little ones who are mistreated.
It is not their fault and they can't possibly understand.
:(

[Shellberry]

and there's that number 30 again....Amy mentioned it in her statement...stating Casey told her that Cindy 'had 30 days' to rescind the offer of the home deal...

interesting how Casey pulls that number into the 'story'....

and Cindy says the same thing in the 911 call....

best regards,
Pru
yep, the only thing I still believe about this whole case is the '30 days'--as I said on my very first post here
30 days plays a part in this, and I really dont think it because cindy/george knew caylee was missing for that long.
I think they kicked her out. and reading the news article the other day about cindy seeing a counselor and that person telling her to kick casey out and try to get custody of caylee, just makes me believe that might be something about this case that is 100% true.
I think they tried to make her leave the nest and take responsibility for her life.
somehow casey is making them feel guilty by saying caylee went missing on day one of the '30 days'.

I truly believe that.
if the whole entire truth about this case ever comes out and Im wrong - I will really eat my words.


imo/jmo

[need2no]

It's hard for me to decipher his behavior becuase he acts just like casey, same mold and all that thanks to Cindy.

About time someone else says it. I've had an issue from the very first interview he did. The smiling though and laughter, inappropriate as it is; is exactly what Casey does. Exactly. It's like the cindyspeak.


Them apples didn't fall far from that tree.

[Reenbean]

Well.. what about the great grandparents? Would they also be monsters, since all the other monsters came from them?


No, sadly the great-grandparents are victims of their thieving grand-daughter Casey. They are true victims in this along with sweet Caylee.

[msgatorslayer]

This TH on NG just said, "Instead of looking - she's cooking" :lol:

We really need the popcorn icon for this case.

[Duckaroo]

I figured I would do my best to avoid the news and the boards a day or so and then hopefully, I'd log in to find they'd found her. Instead I log in and see a link posted to a story that says Casey has been offered big money for her story and something about a defense fund and website being set up..for Casey gahhhh!!!!

:cuss::cuss:

[bcrmom]

It wasnt the part when she did it to Casey that it bothered me, its when she did it to Caylee that it did.

You know what I noticed about that clip? The Cindy washed off Caylee's face but didn't even offer Casey a towel. IIRC, Casey had to get her own cloth to clean her face.

I think maybe Cindy didn't kiss Caylee while the camera was running so she wouldn't obscure Caylee's face. She maybe wanted to smooch her but didn't want the back of her head to block Caylee's sweet face.

[~jomomma~]

I think thats what Casey said when LE were questioning her.:confused:

no, i mean the jogger...was found slain in Blanchard Park

she was a UCF graduate

[barskin&co.]

It's hard for me to decipher his behavior becuase he acts just like casey, same mold and all that thanks to Cindy.

About time someone else says it. I've had an issue from the very first interview he did. The smiling though and laughter, inappropriate as it is; is exactly what Casey does. Exactly. It's like the cindyspeak.

That's just what I saw; his inappropriate affect seems just like Casey. George and Cindy, with all their pathological denial and misplaced anger, at least have raw emotions. Lee, on the other hand, seems all too care-free.

[bcrmom]

This TH on NG just said, "Instead of looking - she's cooking" :lol:

We really need the popcorn icon for this case.
That was Susan Moss. She's a trip, ain't she?:lol:

[barskin&co.]

I figured I would do my best to avoid the news and the boards a day or so and then hopefully, I'd log in to find they'd found her. Instead I log in and see a link posted to a story that says Casey has been offered big money for her story and something about a defense fund and website being set up..for Casey gahhhh!!!!

:cuss::cuss:
Yeah...welcome back!

[concernedmom]

This TH on NG just said, "Instead of looking - she's cooking" :lol:

We really need the popcorn icon for this case.


Susan Moss gets on my nerves but I do like her one liners.:lol:

[tiny paw-prints]

I'm probably going to kick myself for saying this, but...
Maybe George worked security on a college campus?

I was wondering the same thing... :eek:

[Destini]

In the beginning Lee took on the role of super hero who could represent both sides, LE and his family.
But before long the facade fell away to reveal the truth that he is the very same as the rest of them.
He has the same air of grandiose.

That's a very good word, grandiose. I've been trying to think of the proper description of this family. They have a superior attitude and seem to look down their nose at people, and it makes them unlikeable. You just want to slap every last one of them IMO.

Never seen anything like this in my life.

[concernedmom]

I was wondering the same thing... :eek:

I wish LE would order up GA cell phone records too.

[Duckaroo]

Yeah...welcome back!

Thank you :)

[Shellberry]

I think the flooding started before the hurrycanes started hitting FL. Must have been a LOT of rain cuz DeNial river is running smack dab through the middle of that house.

no the bad flooding started after the tropical storm


imo/jmo

[day2day]

This TH on NG just said, "Instead of looking - she's cooking" :lol:

We really need the popcorn icon for this case.

She was HOT HOT HOT!!hammerhammer

[bcrmom]

Would you really consider that in the moment? I dont think I would. :shrug:


I'm :confused: which part of my post are you referring to as "in the moment"? I'm sorry, I'm not following your question. It's late and maybe my mind is already heading to bed. :(

[spiritwolf46]

I wish LE would order up GA cell phone records too.


Whatcha wanna bet that they have both of the GP's records along with Lee's?

That would be excellent!

[joolz]

That's a very good word, grandiose. I've been trying to think of the proper description of this family. They have a superior attitude and seem to look down their nose at people, and it makes them unlikeable. You just want to slap every last one of them IMO.

Never seen anything like this in my life.

Grandiosity often goes hand in hand with narcissism and sociopathy, and this family seems to be thick will all of that. Casey's whole pretend life was grandiose too - an event planner who was going back to school when she was really an unemployed thief and liar. JMO

[Shellberry]

Kathy, reporter, says that UCF is easily accesible off of a toll road. Hmm. Is their EZ pass down there? We don't have toll roads, so I have no clue how they work. Do they have video tapes?

for 'off a toll road' you dont need ezpass.
did the anthonys have ezpass?
whenever I mapquest down here, I click the button to avoid the toll roads.



imo/jmo

[bluwaters]

It is easier to go around the toll roads believe it or not. And those tolls are expensive too.
I will definitely try it the next time we are down there. The tolls are outrageous. It takes forever without a SunPass too. Although, before we got SunPass, that long line at the toll booth was always a good thing as we would all be checking the floor mats and hitting the kids up for change to get through!

[Velouria]

Lee's a piece of work, too. I always thought so. jmo

Initially, I held out hope for him, but he seems to be a chip off the old block after all.

[spiritwolf46]

Same here!

I can only hope that she is going to be formally charged any day now.


If that were to happen, that would make my whole entire year! I cannot wait for her to be formally charged. I understand why LE is taking their time on this, but MAN do I want her in jail and then PRISON!

[Reenbean]

Quote from NG show tonight:

"She killed an innocent little girl, an angel baby, just so she can go out and be a party girl. I just wanna slap her."

Let me high five you lady!!!!!

[Motomom]

She probably has practiced that walk in front of her mirror at home.

btw Happy Belated Birthday - heard we missed yours yesterday !


Awww.. thank you very much..

Yes, a practiced walk. I thought maybe it was just me, thought I was looking too much into it lol

[Taylor&Hunter]

Hey guys! I am just catching up with the night time board. I watched NG which I was SO SHOCKED was actually new information...woo hooo!!!

My burning question to all of you - WHY UCF and WHY NOW? Don't tell me that her phone pings didn't show that area before. Why didn't they search that long ago? I find this highly interesting and then add the statement about the dirt samples being taken to match up under her car. I can't help but wonder if the pings PLUS the dirt or something else puts them at that location today.

I'm SOOO disgusted at the 1.5 million dollar ppv deal!!! The very p!$$ed of mother in me wants someone to record it and distribute it for free for as long as they can to everyone so they don't make crap off of it. It would serve anyone right who wants to give this woman a dime to profit off of her lies. It's disgusting at best.

:rose: Caylee

[Destini]

Grandiosity often goes hand in hand with narcissism and sociopathy, and this family seems to be thick will all of that. Casey's whole pretend life was grandiose too - an event planner who was going back to school when she was really an unemployed thief and liar. JMO

If it wasn't for Caylee & my hope she will be found, I would wash my hands of any interest in this case. I couldn't care less what happens to any of them except Caylee at this point. In real life I distance myself as much as possible from these type people. Life's too short.

[need2no]

Initially, I held out hope for him, but he seems to be a chip off the old block after all.


Interesting how Lee doesn't wear the Missing Caylee t-shirts, and has a magnetic sign on the side (s) of his car rather than the words written all over the windows.

[Velouria]

ITA ...And he calls Lenny-daily..!!

Well, that seals it then...you'd hafta be nuts. :D

[Shellberry]

I thought of her checking Casey's online activity when the bogus Universal e-mail came to light. Wonder what other kinds of bogus 'work' links, projects, and BS she had.

:lol:Heck, the girl may have really been working her fake job!!!

could be she set up all the fake 'crap' because she knew cindy was checking up on her.
'pretending to work' when cindy knew darn well she wasnt.

I just bet ya...I really do.


imo/jmo

[Motomom]

I thought of her checking Casey's online activity when the bogus Universal e-mail came to light. Wonder what other kinds of bogus 'work' links, projects, and BS she had.

:lol:Heck, the girl may have really been working her fake job!!!

Well, there are people who do more work getting out of work.. She's a crock! This story is so unbelievable.

[concernedmom]

Why in the world is there drive way lit up like a football field tonight.


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I checked about an hour ago and everything was dark.

[Rebel Rouzer]

No, sadly the great-grandparents are victims of their thieving grand-daughter Casey. They are true victims in this along with sweet Caylee.

Agree. That is so sad. Can't believe others won't or can't see that

[Motomom]

Im telling you when she shoved that cake into casey's mouth, set her off balance while she was holding Caylee, I wanted to slap her; honest.

What I saw, was someone who has no boundaries in life. Casey yells out Mom! Is smiling but her body language, she back up and away, tried to avoid her. I doubt Caylee knew who her real mother was; or what a proper relationship with a mom was really like. The lines were blurred here Im afraid. It really bothered me. It didnt bother some but It really bothered me. I agree where she should have been snuggled she wasnt.

you know dots.. I watched that video after you shared your feelings on it.. and I thought to myself.. I think dots is right. although not to the extreme that you see it, I saw it too.

[st777jo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joan Weiss
That's it, they all came from the same mold. Why would Lee be any different? imo

Like I said earlier, I Hate The Anthony's.

[Shellberry]

I think they're searching for Caylee in areas around UCF where the Missing Jogger Nichole Ganguzza, 26, was found dead on June 11.
ohhhhhhhhhhhh man.
I said that earlier in this case as well. and when the 400 docs came out, I thought it even more when casey tells the detective about going to JB park, and how they just walked the trail...then she adds, where the jogger was killed. and how her mom warned her about it/walking there
dang that sounded like a hint or something to me, why would she need to add that line to her statement, LE knows who was found on the trail, etc.
you know what I mean?


imo/jmo

[need2no]

I checked about an hour ago and everything was dark.

Me too except it looked light there was a light on at their neighbors house...perhaps a floodlight over the garage...but the Anthony's house was completely dark.

[Joan Weiss]

Just watching NG again, what was found in the car also included Dora the Explorer. Nate also said that Casey told him Caylee learned to count from Dora the explorer.

Looks like Dora was the "nanny." That poor little girl probably spent a lot of time in the car. :(

Her favorite baby doll was in the car, too.

[Joan Weiss]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh man.
I said that earlier in this case as well. and when the 400 docs came out, I thought it even more when casey tells the detective about going to JB park, and how they just walked the trail...then she adds, where the jogger was killed.
dang that sounded like a hint or something to me, why would she need to add that line to her statement, LE knows who was found on the trail, etc.
you know what I mean?


imo/jmoYea, "hint, hint."

[MajorJaybird]

Well there is hope they just said she would not get any money without find caylee and if she is convicted even of child neglect.
Makes me feel better ...I think...

trich you have a pm

Coming out of lurk mode for my second post ever..lol.. Have been reading here since this case broke. I got hooked with the Scott Peterson case. Isn't this case the most bizzare thing you have ever seen? Wishing and praying for little miss Casey to get her just rewards. Hey Casey, he77 is not full yet, they still have room for YOU!!! Wheeeeew, I feel better getting that off my chest
If I have made a mess of this post please forgive me... new to this posting. Normally I just read and try to stay out of trouble...those rocks hurt when they get thrown at ya'..Later folks

[concernedmom]

Im not sure that light is from the media.
Maybe casey snuck out?:shrug::eek:

[Taylor&Hunter]

oh, I did miss that, thank you for posting.

OMG the funny thing about this is that my husband and I were watching and we both went, "45?" I am not at all saying that Caylee wasn't theee smartest and sweetest little girl because I have no doubt she was HOWEVER...I think he said CASEY told them she can count to 45 in Spanish and that just SO sounds like a Casey lie. We're like why, if she could count to 20, 30 and 40 could she not count to an even number like 50 or at least 49? If you can say treinta y nueve (39) and then you can say cuarenta (quarenta?) y dos (42), why can't you say cuarenta y nueve (49). Wouldn't that make more sense that she could stop at an even number or the next tens group rather? I know this is theeee most trivial of all things mentioned so i'm not exactly gonna lose sleep over it but it's just another one of those lies that get under my skin about Caseys SENSELESS lies! hammer I am losing it...worried about Dora the Explorer and her lying about counting in Spanish! UGH...this case irks me beyond belief!!! BTW, the whole Dora thing (having a 5 & 8 year old myself) just melted my heart even more for Caylee. :rose:

[Joan Weiss]

So many people said that Lee & Casey all came from the same mold, I just assumed that mold would include the great grandparents. I didn't see anyone explain how they knew where the mold started or where it stopped.
:confused:Wasn't Cindy the baby in that family? The little princess?

[Rebel Rouzer]

So many people said that Lee & Casey all came from the same mold, I just assumed that mold would include the great grandparents. I didn't see anyone explain how they knew where the mold started or where it stopped.
:confused:

You are wasting your time if you think you are going to bait me and get me banned. This is my last post to you. :seeya:

[need2no]

Im not sure that light is from the media.
Maybe casey snuck out?:shrug::eek:


If she did she best hope LE finds her before the public does. :eek:

[Snuggles]

Hey guys! I am just catching up with the night time board. I watched NG which I was SO SHOCKED was actually new information...woo hooo!!!

My burning question to all of you - WHY UCF and WHY NOW? Don't tell me that her phone pings didn't show that area before. Why didn't they search that long ago? I find this highly interesting and then add the statement about the dirt samples being taken to match up under her car. I can't help but wonder if the pings PLUS the dirt or something else puts them at that location today.

I'm SOOO disgusted at the 1.5 million dollar ppv deal!!! The very p!$$ed of mother in me wants someone to record it and distribute it for free for as long as they can to everyone so they don't make crap off of it. It would serve anyone right who wants to give this woman a dime to profit off of her lies. It's disgusting at best.

:rose: Caylee
What is the 1.5 million dollar ppv thingie? Explain please, gosh that is a load of money, no way that is going to this family, please say it aint so!

[bluwaters]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh man.
I said that earlier in this case as well. and when the 400 docs came out, I thought it even more when casey tells the detective about going to JB park, and how they just walked the trail...then she adds, where the jogger was killed. and how her mom warned her about it/walking there
dang that sounded like a hint or something to me, why would she need to add that line to her statement, LE knows who was found on the trail, etc.
you know what I mean?


imo/jmo

Shellberry :seeya:
Are JB Park and UCF close to one another?

You were the one who told me about getting around Orlando and avoiding the tolls!
Mapquest - I have got to remember that.
Great tip!

[OneUp]

Just watching NG again, what was found in the car also included Dora the Explorer. Nate also said that Casey told him Caylee learned to count from Dora the explorer.

Looks like Dora was the "nanny." That poor little girl probably spent a lot of time in the car. :(

Her favorite baby doll was in the car, too.Yes, "MaMa" her dolly...that name resonates with me internally somehow. Maybe some feelings of longing for mama to hold me close from my own childhood, but I think it a very odd name for a childs babydoll.
I just have an instinctual feeling that the dolls name tells me something about Caylee.
JMO.

[need2no]

Wasn't Cindy the baby in that family? The little princess?

Yes, and when her crown got tarnished Cindy transferred her hopes and dreams over to the new princess, Caylee....and Casey resented the heck out of it.

[Joan Weiss]

OMG the funny thing about this is that my husband and I were watching and we both went, "45?" I am not at all saying that Caylee wasn't theee smartest and sweetest little girl because I have no doubt she was HOWEVER...I think he said CASEY told them she can count to 45 in Spanish and that just SO sounds like a Casey lie. We're like why, if she could count to 20, 30 and 40 could she not count to an even number like 50 or at least 49? If you can say treinta y nueve (39) and then you can say cuarenta (quarenta?) y dos (42), why can't you say cuarenta y nueve (49). Wouldn't that make more sense that she could stop at an even number or the next tens group rather? I know this is theeee most trivial of all things mentioned so i'm not exactly gonna lose sleep over it but it's just another one of those lies that get under my skin about Caseys SENSELESS lies! hammer I am losing it...worried about Dora the Explorer and her lying about counting in Spanish! UGH...this case irks me beyond belief!!! BTW, the whole Dora thing (having a 5 & 8 year old myself) just melted my heart even more for Caylee. :rose:NATE said that Caylee could count to 45 in Spanish. He asked Casey about that, and she said Caylee learned it from Dora the Explorer. Dora was found in Casey's car.

[Snuggles]

Im not sure that light is from the media.
Maybe casey snuck out?:shrug::eek:

whats going on???

[Velouria]

:)New here. Just wanted to say :seeya:

Wonder how those ppl sleep@ nite?



Heya witchy - Welcome aboard! :seeya:

[day2day]

Well, that seals it then...you'd hafta be nuts. :D

LOL..the whole bunch of em are nuts..imo!

[Joan Weiss]

Yes, "MaMa" her dolly...that name resonates with me internally somehow. Maybe some feelings of longing for mama to hold me close from my own childhood, but I think it a very odd name for a childs babydoll.
I just have an instinctual feeling that the dolls name tells me something about Caylee.
JMO.Yes, OneUp, I have been thinking that since I first heard the name of her doll. A substitute. imo :(

[Destini]

I'm having that problem too. I am disgusted everytime I check for updates. I just want to stop watching, but there is always something that fires me up!

I know what you mean. I check for updates several times a day, hoping against hope to get good news that Caylee's been found, but then I just kick myself because I have to read all the BS from this family.

In every other missing person case I've ever followed, there's at least one family member you can empathize with. Here there's no one but Caylee, LE & the searchers. Unbelievable.

[Joan Weiss]

Quote from NG show tonight:

"She killed an innocent little girl, an angel baby, just so she can go out and be a party girl. I just wanna slap her."

Let me high five you lady!!!!!That was a protester. :biggrin:

[madamedylan]

I know I will be roasted for this. But all of these resources have gone to trying to find the Caylee with no progress. The grandparents are acting ungrateful and Casey tells nothing but lies. I truly think LE should back off and say OK, that's it. Time to search for a child whose parents will appreciate it. They should just let the case go cold, as sad as that sounds. But I doubt she is alive and the grandparents can take that up with their lying daughter Casey.

[bluwaters]

trich you have a pm

Coming out of lurk mode for my second post ever..lol.. Have been reading here since this case broke. I got hooked with the Scott Peterson case. Isn't this case the most bizzare thing you have ever seen? Wishing and praying for little miss Casey to get her just rewards. Hey Casey, he77 is not full yet, they still have room for YOU!!! Wheeeeew, I feel better getting that off my chest
If I have made a mess of this post please forgive me... new to this posting. Normally I just read and try to stay out of trouble...those rocks hurt when they get thrown at ya'..Later folks
Welcome Major!:seeya:
Post looks good to me. I like your comment about plenty of room in He77!

[Joan Weiss]

Does it make a difference. Still comes from the same mold, no?George is not Cindy's father. ;)

[Shellberry]

Shellberry :seeya:
Are JB Park and UCF close to one another?

You were the one who told me about getting around Orlando and avoiding the tolls!
Mapquest - I have got to remember that.
Great tip!

I dont know how close they are, but I sure as heck am going to check--is ucf close to the little econ/econ park she mentioned?

little econ/econ park actually runs into JB park, which I thought was interesting, the jogger that died on the trail in JB park
damn, all of these parks she is saying means something!

Im off to check on the ucf

[Taylor&Hunter]

What is the 1.5 million dollar ppv thingie? Explain please, gosh that is a load of money, no way that is going to this family, please say it aint so!


I'm afraid it is so! I wish it wasn't. Per Nancy Grace tonight, there is a deal on the table for a PPV special interview (is what NG is guessing) for Casey to tell HER story. The deal is for 1.5 million dollars and the family is strongly considering it for her defense fund!!! barf

[Snuggles]

I know I will be roasted for this. But all of these resources have gone to trying to find the Caylee with no progress. The grandparents are acting ungrateful and Casey tells nothing but lies. I truly think LE should back off and say OK, that's it. Time to search for a child whose parents will appreciate it. They should just let the case go cold, as sad as that sounds. But I doubt she is alive and the grandparents can take that up with their lying daughter Casey.

part of me agrees, but another part of me screams out for the injustice of that, and the need to find this child, and find her now!!!:(

[Reenbean]

So many people said that Lee & Casey all came from the same mold, I just assumed that mold would include the great grandparents. I didn't see anyone explain how they knew where the mold started or where it stopped.
:confused:


Good Lord, the semantics are getting ridiculous, ya think??!!!

[day2day]

Why in the world is there drive way lit up like a football field tonight.


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Those are some bright lights. I bet the neighbors are loving this!

[need2no]

Yes, "MaMa" her dolly...that name resonates with me internally somehow. Maybe some feelings of longing for mama to hold me close from my own childhood, but I think it a very odd name for a childs babydoll.
I just have an instinctual feeling that the dolls name tells me something about Caylee.
JMO.


My favorite doll as a child was named MaMa because she said MaMa when you turned her over....maybe Caylee's did as well????

You brought good memories back for me...I'm so sorry this convo didn't do the same for you, and for what you missed out on as a child. :rose:

[panokatana]

I thought of her checking Casey's online activity when the bogus Universal e-mail came to light. Wonder what other kinds of bogus 'work' links, projects, and BS she had.

:lol:Heck, the girl may have really been working her fake job!!!

You know, I can picture her going up and down the halls of Universal, carrying her "leather bag and various papers." .. and people saying.."who is that? does she work here?" ..."yeah, I think so..event planning section I think."
(there was a film like this...maybe...Hudsucker Proxy or How to Succeed in Business... had a similar premise...(probably wrong on both tries of the title)

JMO

[Joan Weiss]

I know I will be roasted for this. But all of these resources have gone to trying to find the Caylee with no progress. The grandparents are acting ungrateful and Casey tells nothing but lies. I truly think LE should back off and say OK, that's it. Time to search for a child whose parents will appreciate it. They should just let the case go cold, as sad as that sounds. But I doubt she is alive and the grandparents can take that up with their lying daughter Casey.What?!!!:confused:

[Snuggles]

I'm afraid it is so! I wish it wasn't. Per Nancy Grace tonight, there is a deal on the table for a PPV special interview (is what NG is guessing) for Casey to tell HER story. The deal is for 1.5 million dollars and the family is strongly considering it for her defense fund!!! barf

who in the he** would pay 1.5 mil for Casey to talk, she has done enough lying to twist us all into knots for the next millennium, we do not need to pay her to spew more, good lord!barfhammer

[bcrmom]

NATE said that Caylee could count to 45 in Spanish. He asked Casey about that, and she said Caylee learned it from Dora the Explorer. Dora was found in Casey's car.

I've never seen Dora. Maybe 45 is as high as Dora goes until next season?:shrug:

[Reenbean]

That was a protester. :biggrin:


I'm protesting from Jersey!!!:D

[babblefishie]

Well.. what about the great grandparents? Would they also be monsters, since all the other monsters came from them?

Noone is a monster, but I firmly believe monstrous things have happened in that family over the generations IMO and it's led to monstrous behaviour in this generation. Cindy may have experienced violence or worse. I say MAY based on her BPD like behaviour which often occurs in people who were abused as children. It would explain a lot. The black and white thinking, the clinging to her daughter, the need to protect those in her circle blindly.

There is old pain in the that family IMO and all Cindy ever wanted was to be a nice normal wife with nice normal children, but there are things lurking under the surface IMHO in the family history. It doesn't mean the ggp did anything, but maybe they weren't able to protect Cindy and she is now going to protect Casey since she KNOWS Caylee is no longer coming home. IMO JMO :(

[Taylor&Hunter]

NATE said that Caylee could count to 45 in Spanish. He asked Casey about that, and she said Caylee learned it from Dora the Explorer. Dora was found in Casey's car.

I don't think that's how it was worded at all. JMO. I'll have to wait and get the NG transcripts. Not arguing...just saying that's not how *I* heard it. I thought at first the same thing you did and then I caught him say something about "Casey said..."

[Joan Weiss]

My favorite doll as a child was named MaMa because she said MaMa when you turned her over....maybe Caylee's did as well????

You brought good memories back for me...I'm so sorry this convo didn't do the same for you, and for what you missed out on as a child. :rose:Uuummm...I think it was a cloth doll, like a rag doll. Unclothed. imo

[Joan Weiss]

I don't think that's how it was worded at all. JMO. I'll have to wait and get the NG transcripts. Not arguing...just saying that's not how *I* heard it. I thought at first the same thing you did and then I caught him say something about "Casey said..."I just listened to it, before I posted.

[Marianne]

To them she was a possession, a punishment and a weapon. To him she was a living, vital human being.

I was watching the video of Cindy at the bond hearing today. She says Casey was her best friend then her husband. Totally pathetic.

Also I do find it inappropriate and disconserting to view a half naked woman being interviewed in court.....that is watching Cindy in a deepV sleeveless T. i know its Florida but air conditioned qand everyone else was in suits and long sleeves..the judge wearing his copious robe.

Hey, common everyone steal my credit card and wipe out my savings and retirement fund and then wipe out my parents security and lie to me for a year and a half about where my grandchild is....kill her.....and I'll still be your best friend and consider you mine. Love you sweetie, come home soon. You can live with me forever, love cooking for you and doing your laundry...you dont need any money or a car. Just be my baby OK?

Does the word masochism apply? Can't just be naivete?

[day2day]

I know. Cant figure out why there that bringht tonight unless they have installed them to cover the driveway.

Thats what I am thinking..I guess they are afraid of the protestors? Heck..I'm afraid of them! :chicken: jmo

[StickyBeak]

Those are some bright lights. I bet the neighbors are loving this!


Wooo Nellie, is that light coming from the anthony's property, across from the basketball net? It totally obviates the garage, some high pressure sodiums for sure. Perhaps the Neighbors may have wanted some added security lighting but thats enough watts to have a parade, IMO

[need2no]

I know. Cant figure out why there that bringht tonight unless they have installed them to cover the driveway.


You could be right and if that is the case it reminds me of Drew Peterson using his camcorder to film the media. Sounds like something Cindy would come up with...much like the alarm/alert thingy to drown out media questions, and the caution tape.

[madamedylan]

I know I will be roasted for this. But all of these resources have gone to trying to find the Caylee with no progress. The grandparents are acting ungrateful and Casey tells nothing but lies. I truly think LE should back off and say OK, that's it. Time to search for a child whose parents will appreciate it. They should just let the case go cold, as sad as that sounds. But I doubt she is alive and the grandparents can take that up with their lying daughter Casey.

If Casey had just told the truth from day 1, (not day 30!!!!!) Casey would have been found. LE should not have to indulge her games of "caylee is here, no she is here, no she is here now...." for all of the parents who cooperate with the police, it's totally unfair....and it is a case of "missing white child" syndrome. i doubt this kind of coverage would be given for a black child, sorry to say.

[msjoni]

Yes, OneUp, I have been thinking that since I first heard the name of her doll. A substitute. imo :(

That just broke my heart, calling her doll mama.
:(
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[Joan Weiss]

Interesting how Lee doesn't wear the Missing Caylee t-shirts, and has a magnetic sign on the side (s) of his car rather than the words written all over the windows.He can take the magnetic sign off...incognito.

[day2day]

No, Cindy's parents are her parents. So.. let me get this straight. Cindy and George are the original monsters, and both Cindy and George's parents somehow managed to turn out okay? How did that happen? Wouldn't either Cindy or George's parents have the same monster propensities, as they, meaning Cindy and George, according to you, have passed on to Casey and Lee?

I'm really curious how that happened.

Who really cares? This has NOTHING to do with the grandparents! Heck they are victims to! This has EVERYTHING to do with George, Cindy, Casey and Lee Anthony and what they allllllllllllll have done to little Caylee!! jmo

[concernedmom]

Wooo Nellie, is that light coming from the anthony's property, across from the basketball net? It totally obviates the garage, some high pressure sodiums for sure. Perhaps the Neighbors may have wanted some added security lighting but thats enough watts to have a parade, IMO

I havent seen any movement on the cam so maybe its stuck but I think the light is from the Anthonys. Wow. Its bright 2 houses down. Id be putting blankets over my window.

[Velouria]

Caylee deserves to be found she cant help what that family has done to her we should NEVER give up on finding her:rose:

I have no intention of "roasting" the original poster, but I agree. Just because her family are lying ingrates doesn't mean we should allow the case to go cold. I really have a difficult time understanding the logic behind that approach. It's not as if Caylee has a say-so in how her family behaves (or misbehaves).

[Joan Weiss]

Thanks for the info. I knew it had to go back beyond Cindy, I mean the monsterous things happening, and all. Has anyone looked into the background of these great grandparents yet?Go ahead. Contribute.

[joypath]

No, Cindy's parents are her parents. So.. let me get this straight. Cindy and George are the original monsters, and both Cindy and George's parents somehow managed to turn out okay? How did that happen? Wouldn't either Cindy or George's parents have the same monster propensities, as they, meaning Cindy and George, according to you, have passed on to Casey and Lee?

I'm really curious how that happened.


This is an absurb hypothesis, can we get back to discussing the innocent one



CAYLEE, who is missing!

[Taylor&Hunter]

I just listened to it, before I posted.

Okay well I need to listen to it to because that's not what I heard. Perhaps the way he said it could be interpreted in 2 different ways.

[shelbar53]

So many people said that Lee & Casey all came from the same mold, I just assumed that mold would include the great grandparents. I didn't see anyone explain how they knew where the mold started or where it stopped.
:confused:

all came from same mold but it was dysfunctional molds

[babblefishie]

Thanks for the info. I knew it had to go back beyond Cindy, I mean the monsterous things happening, and all. Has anyone looked into the background of these great grandparents yet?

It's not really info, just my opinion -- I have a family that would likely crumble in a similar way if a similar crime were committed. It gives me some insight, but I make my statements very humbly. :shrug:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Who really cares? This has NOTHING to do with the grandparents! Heck they are victims to! This has EVERYTHING to do with George, Cindy, Casey and Lee Anthony and what they allllllllllllll have done to little Caylee!! jmo


Agree. Just and FYI cuz i likes ya. Watch out with that one. You can't go fishing without the bait.

[babblefishie]

WHAT the heck is up with the lights? Wow..... the poor neighbours! Are people shining their headlights on the house or what?

[Taylor&Hunter]

who in the he** would pay 1.5 mil for Casey to talk, she has done enough lying to twist us all into knots for the next millennium, we do not need to pay her to spew more, good lord!barfhammer


I'm going to go out on a limb and say some money grubber who cares more about cashing in on this tragedy than the fact that a little girl is missing because of the monster he's about to pay? :shrug: It's sad and sickening at best.

[Motomom]

So many people said that Lee & Casey all came from the same mold, I just assumed that mold would include the great grandparents. I didn't see anyone explain how they knew where the mold started or where it stopped.
:confused:

Sometimes the mold is broken..lets hope that Casey and Lee broke it.

[day2day]

Agree. Just and FYI cuz i likes ya. Watch out with that one. You can't go fishing without the bait.

Thanks Reb..I owe you -one or two!! :D

[babblefishie]

I bet the phones are ringing off the hooks right now with neighbours complaining about the lights. It looks like it's coming from the left of the screen. Perhaps someone with high powered halogen lights.

[Reenbean]

If Casey had just told the truth from day 1, (not day 30!!!!!) Casey would have been found. LE should not have to indulge her games of "caylee is here, no she is here, no she is here now...." for all of the parents who cooperate with the police, it's totally unfair....and it is a case of "missing white child" syndrome. i doubt this kind of coverage would be given for a black child, sorry to say.


Sorry but I completely disagree. This case made national news because of all the media attention Cindy drew to the case by running her mouth. The lies her daughter told contradicted every single thing Cindy stated to the media, and still does to this very day. This is not a black and white issue, just absurd to even go there IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Okay well I need to listen to it to because that's not what I heard. Perhaps the way he said it could be interpreted in 2 different ways.Smiling and nodding here...

[need2no]

He can take the magnetic sign off...incognito.


So true, and maybe he doesn't wear the shirts for the same reason...doesn't want to attract too much attention.

[bcrmom]

I bet the phones are ringing off the hooks right now with neighbours complaining about the lights. It looks like it's coming from the left of the screen. Perhaps someone with high powered halogen lights.


I saw a camera crew light stand out there earlier today. From where the light seems to be coming from, I think that's the source. I've noticed that the cams go off about 10 local time every night so I'm pretty sure they're off now.

Sheesh with just one or two more of those lights, there could be a baseball game out there. :cool:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Casey broke the mold she is in when she IMO killed her innocent little dtr....if life is fair, Casey will never make babies again......


I hope they order her to have tubes tied. didn't one jusge do that before in another case?

[Joan Weiss]

I bet the phones are ringing off the hooks right now with neighbours complaining about the lights. It looks like it's coming from the left of the screen. Perhaps someone with high powered halogen lights.Look at the neighbor's windows, they're pretty bright, too. Maybe the air is moist or something, making it looked brighter than it really is. Reflecting light off the moisture? imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

See you all tomorrow. :seeya:

[shelbar53]

did caylee ever mention the nannys name, if she spend so much time with her would have mentioned it

[Reenbean]

Nite Rebel!!

[desmom]

See you all tomorrow. :seeya:


Night!

I am right behind!

:rose: Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

See you all tomorrow. :seeya:Sleep well, Rebel. :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Night!

I am right behind!

:rose: CayleeMe, too! :seeya:

[Motomom]

After listening to Nate, I think Casey thought she hit the jackpot with these guys. Full time college students, really going somewhere in life. It's a shame they weren't more picky with the women (woman) they brought into their lives. I bet they've learned alot from this.

[tiny paw-prints]

Maybe they are providing light for the trash lady, so she doesn't make a mess when she's digging through the trash cans?
:shrug:

Did you view the photos of the lady?

There were No trash cans. She was not digging.

[Velouria]

[QUOTE]=MicheleL;12090679]Click :seeya:

You and your alter seem to look for and want an argument
with someone, each and every time you're on here ..
[\QUOTE]


Ah, you noticed that, eh Michele?

Of course, you can't argue unless someone argues back...;)

[bcrmom]

Look at the neighbor's windows, they're pretty bright, too. Maybe the air is moist or something, making it looked brighter than it really is. Reflecting light off the moisture? imo

I keep wondering if it just looks that bright due to lens or camera speed. Maybe it's like an overexposure? Where the cam lens was open just a tad too long and caught that last frame just right to make it appear that bright but it really wasn't? I dunno but it looks abnormally bright to me.

[panokatana]

Just a thought about the million dollar PPV thing...

Everyone is always saying..."Casey won't talk unless it's beneficial to her..unless there's something in it for HER." Ok...maybe someone is calling the bluff...
A million and a half would be beneficial, especially to someone like Casey portrays to be...and if she still doesn't talk...there goes that theory.

JMO

[shelbar53]

It's not really info, just my opinion -- I have a family that would likely crumble in a similar way if a similar crime were committed. It gives me some insight, but I make my statements very humbly. :shrug:

the great parents are normal, they wanted to file charges aganist casey but enable cindy talked them out of it, they did right she did wrong

[Motomom]

did caylee ever mention the nannys name, if she spend so much time with her would have mentioned it

We wouldn't know that Shelbar, because all the Anthonys do is lie. I believe it was Cindy who said that Zaneida's name was in Caylees vocab for 3 yrs.. IOW's, she was born saying Zanny.

[shelbar53]

We wouldn't know that Shelbar, because all the Anthonys do is lie. I believe it was Cindy who said that Zaneida's name was in Caylees vocab for 3 yrs.. IOW's, she was born saying Zanny.

yea right, like im gonna beleive anything cindy says..i trust nate..he would know if cayless said the nannys name

[tiny paw-prints]

Wondered the same thing. Especially for the people adjacent to them. My goodness. It reminds me of Christmas Vacation..."Hey Clark...where are you going to put a tree of that size..." Clark, "Bend over and I'll show you."

Wow. Was glad we got that perspective of Nate tonite on NG on Caylee. Such a smart girl with so much ahead of her. Just can't imagine...why the gp's defend against this little one who has yet to do anything wrong against someone they enabled so often who has done very little for good.

I'm wondering if they've got the camera lights turned up tonight because of the particular area being searched. Maybe the A family might get a little jumpy throughout the night, or sleep walk?

[need2no]

After listening to Nate, I think Casey thought she hit the jackpot with these guys. Full time college students, really going somewhere in life. It's a shame they weren't more picky with the women (woman) they brought into their lives. I bet they've learned alot from this.


Probably kinda hard to turn away a clothes washing, apartment cleaning, pay for groceries dinner cooking party gal who crawls in the sack with ya at night....easy to tolerate for a few months.

[Motomom]

something else I have been thinking about, even though I'm pretty sure it is irrelevent because I think Casey killed Caylee and did it on her own. I know this was talked about before but I'm still reading the docs LOL.. kiomarie's boyfriend would not allow her to give the phone records to the police.. why? Also, there was a number called, I believe to Casey williams and the phone number ended up being disconnected. Kio had called LE about Casey calling for money, and called back later saying it was the wrong Casey. I dont' understand how she could have confused that. Like I said, probably irrelevent at this point, just something that bugged me in the docs.

[Motomom]

Probably kinda hard to turn away a clothes washing, apartment cleaning, pay for groceries dinner cooking party gal who crawls in the sack with ya at night....easy to tolerate for a few months.

Yep... well sometimes those that look too good to be true.. are too good to be true.

[need2no]

We wouldn't know that Shelbar, because all the Anthonys do is lie. I believe it was Cindy who said that Zaneida's name was in Caylees vocab for 3 yrs.. IOW's, she was born saying Zanny.

Well...Nate did say Caylee was a very smart child. :biggrin:

[panokatana]

Casey...in her sunglasses...has a sort of Norma Desmond quality...so ready for her closeup!

JMO

[bluwaters]

Nancy Grace, 9/9, part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeX_b8oQFQA

Nancy Grace, 9/9, part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOb35iowfmo

Nancy Grace, 9/9, part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpLyx7KsXVk

Nancy Grace, 9/9, part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSBco_i-ATs

[bookie]

Yes I saw the trash lady. Oops, not digging, but tenderly caressing the garbage.
:seeya:


She ripped into a closed bag of trash. Call it what it is.....digging through the trash. :tongue:

I don't get all of the outrage. The woman wasn't embarrassed about it. She did media interviews about digging through the trash and posed for pictures still digging.

[desmom]

Checking news links before I shut down the computer:

Psychic Investigating Caylee Disappearance Now Under Investigation
http://www.wftv.com/video/17432761/index.html

[tiny paw-prints]

I bet the phones are ringing off the hooks right now with neighbours complaining about the lights. It looks like it's coming from the left of the screen. Perhaps someone with high powered halogen lights.

You're right. The neighbor's garage on the left has been illuminated since dusk and the Anthony's garage became illuminated afterwards...