Monday, Sept 8th, PM thread

[kakax]

Continue here....

[rainydays]

thanks for the new thread kakax....:seeya:

[spiritwolf46]

Continue here....

Thanks much! :seeya:

[Snuggles]

:patriot:present and accounted for! now I will go back to lurking!

[SoggyBayou]

Thanx KaKax,
I need a refresher, who is Robert Dick on the NG show?

[firefly75]

Continue here....

thank you;)

[kakax]

Thanx KaKax,
I need a refresher, who is Robert Dick on the NG show?


He was the one who drove Casey to and from the atty's office. He was basically a body guard for the BH, IIRC.

[why-me]

Thank you very much

[SoggyBayou]

He was the one who drove Casey to and from the atty's office. He was basically a body guard for the BH, IIRC.

Thanx, kakax

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[why-me]

Also, can someone tell me who is the female is in the camo looking outfit with GA and CA? TIA

[Snuggles]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

Thanks blu, will do!

[kakax]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:


TY BLU!!:rose:

[kakax]

Also, can someone tell me who is the female is in the camo looking outfit with GA and CA? TIA



I had to run do quick pick up downstairs so I didn't see it, ss.

[2Hope4]

Loving the new board! I'm familar with this format, and really like it.

Nothing really new in the search for Caylee. What an awful situation. I hope and pray she doesn't become another Trenton Duckett. Please Lord lead the investigators to her body.

[charliesmom]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:
Thank you. :rose:

[kakax]

:seeya: Hi KK
Seems I always try to post on the tail end of a closed thread.

LOL


Dots--- what happened on NG that has your heart on the floor?
I was ready to reply..


And I always miss things when I move over to new one...gotta run back over there and see what I missed rofl!

[Boxer]

Serinity, in response to your last post on the other thread, I agree 100%.

I'm off to bed. Back on day shift. See y'all in a couple days


:seeya:

[oldbluesmith]

Continue here....Thanks, Kakax.

[Joan Weiss]

Nancy is devoting a lot of time to this case. Good for her. TY, Nancy. :patriot:

[Chillin]

:seeya: Evening!

:seeya: Evening!

[MichelleP]

"The sheriff's office filed the two battery charges with the State Attorney's Office. They will get to decide whether they prosecute George."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html#

Does anyone think that the State Attorney's office will press charges?

I really hope they do because if they don't it will be stupid and someone will probably really get hurt.

[Pruddennce]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?
__________________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru

[cassidy]

"The sheriff's office filed the two battery charges with the State Attorney's Office. They will get to decide whether they prosecute George."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html#

Does anyone think that the State Attorney's office will press charges?

I really hope they do because if they don't it will be stupid and someone will probably really get hurt.

I don't think they will..I think they are treading softly with the Anthony's.

[Oregongal]

Thanks for the new thread and thank you blu for the reminder.
Yet again I found myself posting to a dead thread. :eek:
I wanted to say welcome to charliesmom. :seeya:
And....say I'm not gonna shoot ya.
I can see your point. The big diff in how the Anthony's and your family...and mine would/are behaving is the lies and violence. As a grandma I can empathisize, but I cannot condone the lies and now this latest with GA shoving and raging against people.
Whether they are right or wrong, he has no business putting his hands on anyone, especially an older woman.

[kakax]

Thanks is there anything new going on?:seeya:


WFTV is now reporting they have confirmed there was an ongoing argument with Casey and Cindy had sought out a counselor to help. Counselor suggested that she kick Casey out. (don't know how they found this info)

George may be charged for battery of protesters.

Lee and Casey exchanged a high 5 after passing through the media on the way to her case workers.

Nothing earth shattering.

[anyonesguess]

Did Casey ever come home from JB office yet?

[spiritwolf46]

Serinity, in response to your last post on the other thread, I agree 100%.

I'm off to bed. Back on day shift. See y'all in a couple days


:seeya:

Night Boxer! Will miss ya! :seeya:

[day2day]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:


:rose: thank you blu!

[cassidy]

Is that the same elderly lady that told Cindy her grandaughter needed her right now?

Well- we are not going to see anyone in this family bend-- Cindy refuses to lose another one and will go to any length to keep Casey.
She stated they are at peace and nothing she or Casey can do now.
I also noticed Lee is sticking with all of them. Shame really. I still believe Casey is 100% confident Caylee will never be recovered. Not sure why but I see it with her attitude.

ITA. Casey is very confident that Caylee won't be found. She's just keeping her mouth shut and biding her time.

IMO

[joypath]

"The sheriff's office filed the two battery charges with the State Attorney's Office. They will get to decide whether they prosecute George."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html#

Does anyone think that the State Attorney's office will press charges?

I really hope they do because if they don't it will be stupid and someone will probably really get hurt.


The tape NG just played with GA "chatting up" the two young mem who were perched on the grass between the sidewalk and roadway, George admitted that he "touched" the young man who was educating him on property boundaries!..Perhaps another battery charge?

[kakax]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?


__________________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru

ITA, it is painful to watch her try to answer questions. I don't even think it something an atty can prep her to do...it just comes naturally to her to not answer yes/no. I agree, they will be hostile witnesses for the prosecution.

[kakax]

Thanks high 5 omg they are all involed in this mess:cuss:


I think it is on this video...if not let me know I think there is a picture on the last thread.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17422046/index.html

[bchand]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?
__________________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru

I agree. I don't see how the defense would want her on the stand. She was actually combative with the prosecutor at that bond hearing. I also believe she lied regarding knowing about Zanny the nanny previously. Cindy cannot be stifled, even on the witness stand.

[KimTheGreat]

George sure does need to get his temper in check but hes also being tested pretty badly.
Notice Casey didn't have a wheres caylee T shirt on today...
Didn't she have a missing kids one?? I thought I saw Caylee's picture on there with all the other missing kids.

[charliesmom]

Thanks for the new thread and thank you blu for the reminder.
Yet again I found myself posting to a dead thread. :eek:
I wanted to say welcome to charliesmom. :seeya:
And....say I'm not gonna shoot ya.
I can see your point. The big diff in how the Anthony's and your family...and mine would/are behaving is the lies and violence. As a grandma I can empathisize, but I cannot condone the lies and now this latest with GA shoving and raging against people.
Whether they are right or wrong, he has no business putting his hands on anyone, especially an older woman.

I agree he should of never put his hands on an older woman. Did he not learn that violence never solves anything. I will say this family needs to come clean with everything and not with arm and hammer. Hopefully one of them will soon.

[anyonesguess]

Padilla said he thinks Casey dumped Caylee in a dumpster on the 26th. Wonder if that means that when George opened the trunk on the 24th looking for the wheel chocks (gas cans) he saw Caylee in the trunk?

[joypath]

What is with his evasive answers? Decomp fluid is leaked from the nose/mouth within hours (thus the purge factor if the body is not handled correctly!), elevated temp and humidity ramp up the decomp time.


IMO/IME

[MyrDawn]

sorry about that; board glitch over here :0:seeya:NG calling GA a powder keg. I believe that; but I believe that is what Caylee's reality was really all about. I hope that LE charges soon; I dont think this can go on much longer. I am not sleeping well still; I dont know about many of you?

My sleep has been very disturbed lately, too. I just let myself get too involved in what happened to precious little Caylee. Too bad her own family couldn't have kept her safe so we didn't have to worry ourselves sick about her!

[Lynden1000]

Thanks for the new thread and thank you blu for the reminder.
Yet again I found myself posting to a dead thread. :eek:
I wanted to say welcome to charliesmom. :seeya:
And....say I'm not gonna shoot ya.
I can see your point. The big diff in how the Anthony's and your family...and mine would/are behaving is the lies and violence. As a grandma I can empathisize, but I cannot condone the lies and now this latest with GA shoving and raging against people.
Whether they are right or wrong, he has no business putting his hands on anyone, especially an older woman.


ITA. I can feel for this man, because I can tell he is really hurting, but at the same time his behavior is not helping. It's not fair that he should have to alter his day to day behavior in order to avoid protestors, but by now he is old enough to understand that life isn't fair. He needs to keep himself inside avoid confrontations with the public until things calm down in the community. There are a lot of sincere people out there protesting but also a lot of rowdy teens and people looking for trouble. They're going to goad him and he needs to figure out how to handle it without creating these kinds of spectacles.

[bchand]

Big, bad Geo going after the guy who looks as if he's made of glass threads.
:rolleyes:

lolol and he even said "look bud, I don't care how small you are."

Then, with all those big big protesters, he chooses the 65 yr old lady to push. Note he didn't go near that very large, loud lady with the sign.

[msjoni]

After watching his temper in action I totally 100% believe brother Rick about George's temper. I strongly believe he put his own Father through a window at the dealership. Casey gets that violence from him and Cindy's outlandish lying controlling features from her Mother. Bad genes all the way around.

Great Post! And all too true :shrug:

[MyrDawn]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?
__________________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru


Can you imagine how the cross examination will go if Casey is charged with murder and testifies in her own defense at her trial?

[cassidy]

[QUOTE=Pruddennce;12082487]


Can you imagine how the cross examination will go if Casey is charged with murder and testifies in her own defense at her trial?

Baez would be a total idiot to put Casey on the stand..IMO

[Snewpy]

My sleep has been very disturbed lately, too. I just let myself get too involved in what happened to precious little Caylee. Too bad her own family couldn't have kept her safe so we didn't have to worry ourselves sick about her!

I agree, Myr... but we need to remind ourselves that the ordeal for Caylee is most likely over. And with God's grace she is safe and at peace in Heaven. What I think frustrates us all and where the constant worry and aggravation come in is in our dire need for JUSTICE for that precious angel.

It would be maddening even if Casey and her family hadn't lied and obstructed justice at every turn, but to watch the cold callousness of their disregard for a child they professed to have loved is what, at least for me, holds me in that grip of unease and disgust.

Prayers for Caylee

[anyonesguess]

I never saw Casey come home. Maybe she is staying elsewhere?

[WHITECATS]

Has The National Enquirer etc. found and interviewed any high school friends, neighbors or distant relatives concerning the Anthony family? If so what was learned?

[Oregongal]

ITA. I can feel for this man, because I can tell he is really hurting, but at the same time his behavior is not helping. It's not fair that he should have to alter his day to day behavior in order to avoid protestors, but by now he is old enough to understand that life isn't fair. He needs to keep himself inside avoid confrontations with the public until things calm down in the community. There are a lot of sincere people out there protesting but also a lot of rowdy teens and people looking for trouble. They're going to goad him and he needs to figure out how to handle it without creating these kinds of spectacles.

Absolutely Lyn!!

[Pruddennce]

lolol and he even said "look bud, I don't care how small you are."

Then, with all those big big protesters, he chooses the 65 yr old lady to push. Note he didn't go near that very large, loud lady with the sign.

im not defending his push, she is out there in the melee, she should be prepared for a push.....and she isnt OLD.....heck she could be a serial murderer...like 76-year-old Betty Neumar.

IMO

:cool:

best regards,
Pru

[why-me]

Nancy is devoting a lot of time to this case. Good for her. TY, Nancy. :patriot:

Yes!! I really do like NG alot, she gets to the bottom of issues whether anybody else likes it or not.

[101Spots]

[QUOTE=MyrDawn;12082570]

Baez would be a total idiot to put Casey on the stand..IMO

He most certainly would. But (a) I think he's already established those credentials, and (b) I'd toss a few bucks in the pot to see it. :D

[anyonesguess]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/a-high-five-in.html

A high five in the Caylee Anthony story? The people closest to this little girl never seem to learn


WESH-Channel 2 reporter Bob Kealing relayed the baffling scene at the jail. Kealing said: "I talked to an investigator who told me it was difficult to see Casey seemingly so care-free sharing that high five in that video when ... there were 2,500 volunteers the last 10 days spending lots of time and money trying to find her missing daughter."

On WFTV-Channel 9, reporter Kathi Belich said of the scene, "They high-fived each other as if they were celebrating some sort of victory."

[MyrDawn]

I agree, Myr... but we need to remind ourselves that the ordeal for Caylee is most likely over. And with God's grace she is safe and at peace in Heaven. What I think frustrates us all and where the constant worry and aggravation come in is in our dire need for JUSTICE for that precious angel.

It would be maddening even if Casey and her family hadn't lied and obstructed justice at every turn, but to watch the cold callousness of their disregard for a child they professed to have loved is what, at least for me, holds me in that grip of unease and disgust.

Prayers for Caylee

Well said! I think Caylee is in a much happier place now.

I only wish Cindy had allowed Casey to give up Caylee for adoption when she was born, like she wanted to, according to the accounts I've heard.

[CinTN]

I have a question :seeya:


Does anyone know if VETS use chloroform ... :shrug:

[jammies]

[QUOTE=Pruddennce;12082487][Quote]
Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts? "


Pru,

Remind me what Cindy said when asked "Was Casey keeping Caylee from you" The way she answered that was SOOOO bizarre. Trying to remember here...........

[Oregongal]

In watching NG, she showed a clip of one of the earlier Anthony vigil's and Lee says how if she could be (Casey when in jail the first time) here or OUT SEARCHING she would be. It struck me that she never searched for her before and when she was released she didn't attend a vigil and tho she can't go searching because of her home confinement, her parents and brother could go.
Can we say covering Casey's azz?

[anyonesguess]

Easiest way to find out? Snip that telephone line :chicken:


Jenny, LOLOL That would bring LE for sure. :)

:lol:

[concernedmom]

Easiest way to find out? Snip that telephone line :chicken:


Ill stand guard for ya.:lol:

[cassidy]

Has The National Enquirer etc. found and interviewed any high school friends, neighbors or distant relatives concerning the Anthony family? If so what was learned?

I think they've stayed away from this one. They like to make up the stories not have them handed to them pre-made.

[MyrDawn]

[quote=MyrDawn;12082570]

Maybe she would be just crazy like a fox enough to pull a Susan Polk!!!Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!!! :read:

:lol:
I'd pay good money to see that!

[why-me]

im not defending his push, she is out there in the melee, she should be prepared for a push.....and she isnt OLD.....heck she could be a serial murderer...like 76-year-old Betty Neumar.

IMO

:cool:

best regards,
Pru

And sorry but I believe some of these people are out there strictly to be on TV or to say they "were there." I'm telling you, I am not a violent person by any means but there have been some of the protesters I wanted to go down there and smack. Do the protesters really believe the family is gonna spill their guts to them, confess all? They all need to go home. I said in the beginning that I thought it was tacky for them to show up and I stand behind that.

[OneUp]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?
__________________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru
My thoughts? I pity the prosecution that has to finagle a straight story out of any one of the Anthony's. IMO, hostile witness seems inadequate to describe their level of evasion and contempt.

[Oregongal]

The woman said she was there to search for Caylee, did she think that she would find Caylee there, maybe she thinks Caylee is hiding in the closet and would come running outside if there were alot of screaming people outside. NG asked her what she thought about TES calling off the search and the woman was dumbfounded.

JMO

I thought I heard her say she'd been out searching and then came to the Anthony house.
:shrug:

[jammies]

I never saw Casey come home. Maybe she is staying elsewhere?



THe webcam has been more off than on today, anyone. We probably missed it.

[frances1]

I've been away from the computer since the last thread closed, but I wanted to tell Savannah that yes, unfortunately, "these types of people" do exist, among others. Once you've met one, you'll never forget it. I can't recall right now the percentage of sociopaths among the general population, but it's higher than you might think.
I'm truly not trying to make a diagnosis, because I'm not a mental health professional, but I have lived for 63 years, and have learned to use my God-given abilities to observe and discern. Very important in life, that......discernment. I believe the Bible mentions it more than once. I wasn't so good at it in my early life, but I've learned to listen to that inner voice that God gives to each and every one of us, if we will only listen. Believe it or not, I am not a "Bible thumper" and all of this is strictly JMO, of course. In confusing situations, all kinds of garbage gets thrown out there, but you can still pick out the "rightness" and "wrongness". Just a little piece of advice from one woman to another; take it or leave it.

[cassidy]

They have been known to "solve" at least one murder case, that I am aware of.

Which one was that?

[barskin&co.]

Well said! I think Caylee is in a much happier place now.

I only wish Cindy had allowed Casey to give up Caylee for adoption when she was born, like she wanted to, according to the accounts I've heard.


Oh, I agree with you there. And it was absolutely wrong of Cindy to force her not to; it should not have been Cindy's choice.

[SwFlorida]

I firmly believe that he did just that ag. I truly do.
I think so too.

[concernedmom]

I thought I heard her say she'd been out searching and then come to the Anthony house.
:shrug:


I thought so to?:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Didn't Padilla say when Casey went home the first time, Cindy was pretending nothing was happening; George was giving Casey a wide circle, and Lee was being the brother? I was doing something at the time and didn't catch all of that. Anyone?

[farrahrani]

[QUOTE=MyrDawn;12082570]


NOPE not at all. She was awful at the bond hearing which is nothing compared to what is coming. OMG she will lie, spin, cry, get angry...the whole mix. It will take a week to get through with her.


It may very well be what Baez has her (casey) in his office for every day. Drilling her constantly on any question the prosecution could throw at her. Making sure she has every possible answer down pat. But somehow that would make too much sense. She's prolly surfing the net and chatting with her 'supporters' lol. IMO

[anyonesguess]

I think they've stayed away from this one. They like to make up the stories not have them handed to them pre-made.

Casey would have made an EXCELLANT National Enquirer reporter. She missed her calling imo.
:shrug:

[MyrDawn]

THe webcam has been more off than on today, anyone. We probably missed it.

That's what I think. It was frozen for me for a good hour just around the time Casey would have been getting home.

Well, I'm off for the night. Take care, everyone. :seeya:

[MichelleP]

I doubt that's a road that LE wants to travel.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

http://www.wftv.com/image/17417780/detail.html

Is that a hammer George has in his hand?

[CinTN]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???

[Pruddennce]

[QUOTE=Pruddennce;12082487][Quote]
Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts? "


Pru,

Remind me what Cindy said when asked "Was Casey keeping Caylee from you" The way she answered that was SOOOO bizarre. Trying to remember here...........

you got me frying my brain here as well....so many statements...I do reflect back on her web posting, claiming jealousy and above all that:

"leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby"

best regards,
Pru

[joypath]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???

Yes
and clinical laboratories do also

[Joan Weiss]

I think a silent protest would be very effective. They do them at the abortion clinic in my town. No scenes, they are silent and the effect is powerful, IMO.Yes, that would be great. Perhaps their fury is too great to contain, seeing how the Anthonys walk around the yard in their midst?

[jammies]

Didn't Padilla say when Casey went home the first time, Cindy was pretending nothing was happening; George was giving Casey a wide circle, and Lee was being the brother? I was doing something at the time and didn't catch all of that. Anyone?


You heard correctly.

[nana6]

I thought so to?:shrug:

Yes, she did say she was out searching and then went to the Anthony home

[Oregongal]

Didn't Padilla say when Casey went home the first time, Cindy was pretending nothing was happening; George was giving Casey a wide circle, and Lee was being the brother? I was doing something at the time and didn't catch all of that. Anyone?

I caught that too.
Business as usual.
:beer:

[ginky41]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???


Hi Cin. IIRC someone asked that question when the cholorform info first came out, I believe the answer was "not generally, no." HTH!

[nana6]

You heard correctly.

yes Joan. He said all of that. I believe that this family has tippytoed around Casey mosy of her life. IMO

[Joan Weiss]

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

http://www.wftv.com/image/17417780/detail.html

Is that a hammer George has in his hand?Yes, it certainly makes me hold my breath. :chicken:

It must have given Lee food for thought, as he took it away from George. I wonder if Lee and Casey have experienced his anger? imo

[Pruddennce]

And sorry but I believe some of these people are out there strictly to be on TV or to say they "were there." I'm telling you, I am not a violent person by any means but there have been some of the protesters I wanted to go down there and smack. Do the protesters really believe the family is gonna spill their guts to them, confess all? They all need to go home. I said in the beginning that I thought it was tacky for them to show up and I stand behind that.


and Im behind you....

and echo your sentiments

best regards,
Pru

[ginky41]

they don't make good husbands either. I had to 'escape' from my first marriage. I would love to know the estimated % of sociopaths in american society today, although it wouldn't be completely accurate, would be eye opening I am sure.

It's important to note that not all sociopaths are criminals, that's why most blend in so well.

[101Spots]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???

Mine does NOT use it. Out of date, out of style, better drugs on the market now.

[Joan Weiss]

I caught that too.
Business as usual.
:beer:

Hi Joan

He also said that Cindy seemed enamoured with Casey.

You have it right.

yes Joan. He said all of that. I believe that this family has tippytoed around Casey mosy of her life. IMOThank you. I had a feeling George was doing that, probably why he's not around there much. imo

[joypath]

Hi Cin. IIRC someone asked that question when the cholorform info first came out, I believe the answer was "not generally, no." HTH!


True, not frequently by "regular vets" but sometimes it is used on animals in research labs

[Oregongal]

It's important to note that not all sociopaths are criminals, that's why most blend in so well.

So true ginky...and also need to remember all criminals are not sociopaths.

[why-me]

Didn't Padilla say when Casey went home the first time, Cindy was pretending nothing was happening; George was giving Casey a wide circle, and Lee was being the brother? I was doing something at the time and didn't catch all of that. Anyone?

That was pretty much it other than saying that Lee was just being a "big" brother

[summer4meplz]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???


i'm not ignoring you, i just don't know...sorry...

[tiny paw-prints]

After watching his temper in action I totally 100% believe brother Rick about George's temper. I strongly believe he put his own Father through a window at the dealership. Casey gets that violence from him and Cindy's outlandish lying controlling features from her Mother. Bad genes all the way around.

Kinda gives a slight glimmer of truth to Casey's...

Everyone lies
Everyone dies

[ginky41]

In the beginning of this case I had the feeling it was a set up by the Anthonys.
Hubby kept bringing that theory up as well, then I heard about the decomposition in the trunk, the hair, the air tests, and then the chloroform..and I started to realize that Casey indeed killed her child.
Now I seem to have come full circle, back to the set up and a script, but this time, with the accidental death theory and the Grandparents covering up, and telling Casey stick to the script sweetheart and they wont be able to prove anything.
But who the heck knows.
Bottom line I believe she is dead, like 98% of people that are watching this case.

As much as I wish I could disagree, I just can't. IMO.

[MichelleP]

Yes, it certainly makes me hold my breath. :chicken:

It must have given Lee food for thought, as he took it away from George. I wonder if Lee and Casey have experienced his anger? imo

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/heres-mommy-cindy-anthony-lashing-out-829/

"Cindy was stomping around her front yard with a hammer ******** at anyone listening as she pounded no trespassing signs into the ground. Every once in a while she’d stop long enough to point someone out that she felt had wronged her as she waved her hammer around. I can’t help but think about what Padilla said about eventually there’s going to be an incident. I kinda have to agree with him."

[Joan Weiss]

You heard correctly.Thanks, jammies. Kind of gives you the creeps, doesn't it? :chicken:

I mean what happened to..."Hey, Casey, where's Caylee?"

imo

[CinTN]

Yes
and clinical laboratories do also


TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286


His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..

[kakax]

they don't make good husbands either. I had to 'escape' from my first marriage. I would love to know the estimated % of sociopaths in american society today, although it wouldn't be completely accurate, would be eye opening I am sure.


:rose: Glad you made it!!

[nana6]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???

Ah, no I do not know. Why? Someone will always answer you on this board as soon as they can

[OneUp]

I think they've stayed away from this one. They like to make up the stories not have them handed to them pre-made.IMO, the Ludicrousness of the "facts" in this case don't lend themselves to the embellishment the tabloids are so fond of. If it's already unbelieveable, where does one go from there?
JMO.

[bluwaters]

"The sheriff's office filed the two battery charges with the State Attorney's Office. They will get to decide whether they prosecute George."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17421473/detail.html#

Does anyone think that the State Attorney's office will press charges?

I really hope they do because if they don't it will be stupid and someone will probably really get hurt.

I don't know. I would have thought the gun in George's car would cause a problem for Casey, but Judge Strickland gave the Anthony's a pass on that. Judge Strickland was very clear when he set Casey's bond at $500,000. He wanted to follow the pros request that Casey be put on a "no bond' status, but the law required a bond for the charge. He did the next best thing in setting a bond as high as he could, in an attempt to make it impossible for Casey to post bond.

George is a loose cannon. I hope he gets a :punch: smack down of some sort. No one was injured. The protesters were shouting loudly - which I would consider disturbing the peace. Still, George was not acting in self defense and he had no right to start pushing people around. He could use some anger management therapy.

The Anthony's do need to understand where their property line ends and the easement begins. I realize that the homeowner maintains that strip of grass and it is trampled and ripped up now. The impression that the Anthony's are giving is not helpful to their image. They appear more interested in their lawn than in finding Caylee.

The protesters are unsavory, to say the least. That doesn't give George the right to assault them. Why the Anthony's were out there interacting with them tells me that they were looking for trouble too.
Yes, they should have a right to privacy, but they have made the choice to bond Casey out of jail and bring her into their home to live.
They need to lay low and let things settle. The protesters will become bored if they don't get a reaction and they will go away eventually.

It is especially unfortunate that this incident occurred while hundreds of volunteers were out searching with Tim Miller. I think that Sheriff Ken Beary was most reasonable in his plea for everyone to settle down. The protesters have made their point, the Anthony's have made theirs as well. The need for three police cruisers dedicated to one suburban street is a huge burden on the entire community. In fact, it could well be having a detrimental impact on the investigation itself with OCSD so short handed.

The Anthony's know that they are hated by many.
They do not care.
They are not looking for Caylee and show no signs that they will ever search for her.
It is Casey's right to be bonded out of jail on her current charges.
Essentially, the protesters are protesting against our Constitution, which is their right too.
The protesters are harassing the Anthony's and creating an unsafe environment for the entire neighborhood.

Judge Strickland had foresight when he set Casey's bond and said that his decision was not going to please anyone. I didn't really understand what he meant at the time, but he was spot on.

Patience is a virtue!
Casey will not get away with murder.
She is already facing lots of prison time on the current charges.
I don't think that she is having a wonderful time, although it's certainly better than jail.
Casey is either stuck in the house with Cindy or stuck in Baez's office.
November is really not all that far off and Casey will go away for a long time then.
Hopefully, Caylee will be found long before then.
Caylee will receive justice, but it is going to take some time.
I really can't believe that Casey will get away with the loss of Caylee.

It's just so hard to wait for the wheels of justice to turn!

[why-me]

http://www.hsia.org/white_papers/111tri%20wp.html

This is a very boring article and dated 1994 but it gives usus for chloroform in america today and its uses...just FYI. Scroll down and it gets a little more interesting for non scientific types (like me)

FWIW.
I might go to bed, long day and hubby looks tired tonight- if I do go, y'all have a great night posting on your new board, don't stay up too late and everyone behave.

:seeya: (AB)

Good night...sleep well.

[CinTN]

TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286


His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..

More here ..

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=170087930&albumId=0

From what I can tell they are from New Years 2008 ( i think)

[frances1]

I think they've stayed away from this one. They like to make up the stories not have them handed to them pre-made.



They probably thought no one would believe this one.

[evalles]

Good point, and not at all surprising that she was dumbfounded.

Got banned from WS, I guess I learned from the best over here. :D

Is that the one who claims GA "assaulted" her ? Most of these protesters are idiots.
Did they start out on the Anthony's property ?

[shelbar53]

Serenity
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: High in the mountains...
Posts: 1,944

Since today was a slow news day and the board was down, I watched the bond hearing clips all over again. Cindy has the hardest time answering a simple yes/no question. She will be absoutely awful at
a big trial. IMO I do believe she was mentally/physcially at the bond hearing, however she was in cover mode already. She also attempted several lies until put on the spot with accurate information. This whole family will be hostile on the stand.

Any thoughts?



____________
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." --Sir Winston Churchill--

Serenity,

One word comes to mind: Unresponsive

best regards,
Pru


can you direct me to the location of the bond hearings? i would like to view them.

[kakax]

I wish Nancy Grace had spent more time on the chloroform levels. She said that the smell was overpowering when they opened the trunk. About a week ago, Dr. Koby stated that Chloroform was used in DNA laboratories to somehow split DNA. Makes me wonder if it wasn't ordered to cover up what was in the trunk...a concerted effort to mess with any DNA that was in the trunk. Maybe that is why they haven't gotten specific DNA back and haven't arrested her.

[CinTN]

Ah, no I do not know. Why? Someone will always answer you on this board as soon as they can



TY ,, I posted 2 above yours ,,,,

[Pebbles]

Jenny, they were REALLY into pounding those stupid stakes in the ground. WHY do they keep that up? They just keep getting knocked down. I would just put No Trespassing on signs in the yard, about 8 or so, anybody comes up to the house, they are trespassing...i think they must like the interaction w/ protesters. Why not get freind Holly to go pound stakes? all very strange.
On another note, you and I have the same birthday.:seeya:


I totally agree with you Barefooted. That is exactly how I feel. When I see George and Cindy outside pounding the sticks into the ground I get the feeling they like setting off the protesters, then they can look like the poor victims. I also wondered why they didn't get someone else to pound in the stakes.

The Anthonys have a garage, if they want to leave without talking to the protesters or media, they can get into their cars, cover up the side windows with towels, and keep driving (take down the towels after they leave).

Also why is the vigil for Caylee being held in the front yard on Sunday. Shouldn't a vigil be quiet and peaceful. Why can't the Anthonys hold the vigil somewhere else. I am sure if they really tried and wanted to have a private vigil for Caylee, they could come up with another place. I get the feeling that the vigil has nothing to do with actually praying for Caylee, it is more of a media event for the Anthonys.

Little Caylee seems to be less and less important to the Anthonys. Fighting and disagreeing with anyone that wants to find Caylee seems to be all Cindy and George want to do.

:rose: Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

they don't make good husbands either. I had to 'escape' from my first marriage. I would love to know the estimated % of sociopaths in american society today, although it wouldn't be completely accurate, would be eye opening I am sure.I had to escape, too, and mine was a cop. But that's another story.

I read quite a lot about sociopaths, IIRC, there are many, not generally murderers; some progress to psychopaths, and therein lies the danger. Who sorts 'em out? :chicken:

imo jmo

[OneUp]

I've been away from the computer since the last thread closed, but I wanted to tell Savannah that yes, unfortunately, "these types of people" do exist, among others. Once you've met one, you'll never forget it. I can't recall right now the percentage of sociopaths among the general population, but it's higher than you might think.
I'm truly not trying to make a diagnosis, because I'm not a mental health professional, but I have lived for 63 years, and have learned to use my God-given abilities to observe and discern. Very important in life, that......discernment. I believe the Bible mentions it more than once. I wasn't so good at it in my early life, but I've learned to listen to that inner voice that God gives to each and every one of us, if we will only listen. Believe it or not, I am not a "Bible thumper" and all of this is strictly JMO, of course. In confusing situations, all kinds of garbage gets thrown out there, but you can still pick out the "rightness" and "wrongness". Just a little piece of advice from one woman to another; take it or leave it.The estimates run around four percent of the general population being sociopathic. That seems like a small #, until you realize that indicates that one in 25 people would be included. Sociopathic behavior does run a spectrum from severe cases to people who live out fairly normal lives and jobs. No socioeconomic group or ethnicity is free of sociopaths.
JMO...Google sociopaths and a plethora of information will come up.
BTW, to Pru or whoever suggested I read "the Sociopath next door" thanks. I've ordered it and look forward to a bit of a read...college is over a decade gone by for me so it will be nice to read some of the updated info. in such a user friendly format.
:)

[Oregongal]

I don't know. I would have thought the gun in George's car would cause a problem for Casey, but Judge Strickland gave the Anthony's a pass on that. Judge Strickland was very clear when he set Casey's bond at $500,000. He wanted to follow the pros request that Casey be put on a "no bond' status, but the law required a bond for the charge. He did the next best thing in setting a bond as high as he could, in an attempt to make it impossible for Casey to post bond.

George is a loose cannon. I hope he gets a :punch: smack down of some sort. No one was injured. The protesters were shouting loudly - which I would consider disturbing the peace. Still, George was not acting in self defense and he had no right to start pushing people around. He could use some anger management therapy.

The Anthony's do need to understand where their property line ends and the easement begins. I realize that the homeowner maintains that strip of grass and it is trampled and ripped up now. The impression that the Anthony's are giving is not helpful to their image. They appear more interested in their lawn than in finding Caylee.

The protesters are unsavory, to say the least. That doesn't give George the right to assault them. Why the Anthony's were out there interacting with them tells me that they were looking for trouble too.
Yes, they should have a right to privacy, but they have made the choice to bond Casey out of jail and bring her into their home to live.
They need to lay low and let things settle. The protesters will become bored if they don't get a reaction and they will go away eventually.

It is especially unfortunate that this incident occurred while hundreds of volunteers were out searching with Tim Miller. I think that Sheriff Ken Beary was most reasonable in his plea for everyone to settle down. The protesters have made their point, the Anthony's have made theirs as well. The need for three police cruisers dedicated to one suburban street is a huge burden on the entire community. In fact, it could well be having a detrimental impact on the investigation itself with OCSD so short handed.

The Anthony's know that they are hated by many.
They do not care.
They are not looking for Caylee and show no signs that they will ever search for her.
It is Casey's right to be bonded out of jail on her current charges.
Essentially, the protesters are protesting against our Constitution, which is their right too.
The protesters are harassing the Anthony's and creating an unsafe environment for the entire neighborhood.

Judge Strickland had foresight when he set Casey's bond and said that his decision was not going to please anyone. I didn't really understand what he meant at the time, but he was spot on.

Patience is a virtue!
Casey will not get away with murder.
She is already facing lots of prison time on the current charges.
I don't think that she is having a wonderful time, although it's certainly better than jail.
Casey is either stuck in the house with Cindy or stuck in Baez's office.
November is really not all that far off and Casey will go away for a long time then.
Hopefully, Caylee will be found long before then.
Caylee will receive justice, but it is going to take some time.
I really can't believe that Casey will get away with the loss of Caylee.

It's just so hard to wait for the wheels of justice to turn!

Excellent post blu!!!

ETA: Why the Anthony's feel they have come out for one thing, and then feel the need to interact in any way with these people is beyond me. Why can't they just stay inside? If Cindy feels the need to pound in stakes and wrap the yellow tape up, why doesn't she pick a time when there are no posters around? I thought she was doing pretty good in ignoring, then it changed in a minute and she was talking back to the protesters and approaching them. Why? Why doesn't she keep her mouth shut. It's like she just cannot stand to not be speaking and involved in some way. The only reason she finally went away is because Lee keep moving her away and back. Finally back behind the fence, but she kept talking until he managed to get her behind their fence. Shaking head here, don't understand.

[jammies]

Thanks, jammies. Kind of gives you the creeps, doesn't it? :chicken:

I mean what happened to..."Hey, Casey, where's Caylee?"

imo


They act afraid of her.

[nana6]

nana I don't think they do, its not been used for anything but solvent in industrial uses since it was banned for use on live things like humans and animals...hope this helps...

Hi Bare, It was CinTN who wanted to know this answer Thank you though

[msjoni]

Yes, that would be great. Perhaps their fury is too great to contain, seeing how the Anthonys walk around the yard in their midst?

IMO, the Anthonys almost ask for this trouble...they should just stay inside or in the back yard. I believe they like the confrontation.:rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/heres-mommy-cindy-anthony-lashing-out-829/

"Cindy was stomping around her front yard with a hammer ******** at anyone listening as she pounded no trespassing signs into the ground. Every once in a while she’d stop long enough to point someone out that she felt had wronged her as she waved her hammer around. I can’t help but think about what Padilla said about eventually there’s going to be an incident. I kinda have to agree with him."Yep. I was wondering why they come out when there are protesters there. They have all day to take care of those stupid stakes. I think they do it intentionally. imo

[barskin&co.]

I agree so much with bluwaters' post above. Casey will not get away with this. I do not believe for a moment that she will.

Once and a while we here on the boards get involved with a case from day one. Laci Peterson's disappearance was one. The murders of Rachel and Lillian Entwistle was another. When we start watching the wheels of justice this early, it seems to take forever. But, it won't.

[ginky41]

I agree so much with bluwaters' post above. Casey will not get away with this. I do not believe for a moment that she will.

Once and a while we here on the boards get involved with a case from day one. Laci Peterson's disappearance was one. The murders of Rachel and Lillian Entwistle was another. When we start watching the wheels of justice this early, it seems to take forever. But, it won't.

Good point barskin.

[CinTN]

I did not mean to yell ,, but 3 pages went by and I had No Answer ,, this is what I posted

Originally Posted by CinTN
TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46577286


His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..
More here ..

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...7930&albumId=0

From what I can tell they are from New Years 2008 ( i think)
__________________

[nana6]

good night all up too late last night with you. Prayers for our little Caylee. :rose:

[kakax]

Excellent post blu!!!


I agree!!!

[jammies]

[QUOTE=Pruddennce;12082487]


can you direct me to the location of the bond hearings? i would like to view them.



Here's the first one. I am listening to it now.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

[MichelleP]

Are these people on the Anthony's property or on the pavement? In most cases imo it seems like most people are on the pavement.

http://www.wesh.com/video/17337701/index.html <--- like that one video there, it does not look like to me in that video that those people were on the Anthony's property.

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by bluwaters
I don't know. I would have thought the gun in George's car would cause a problem for Casey, but Judge Strickland gave the Anthony's a pass on that. Judge Strickland was very clear when he set Casey's bond at $500,000. He wanted to follow the pros request that Casey be put on a "no bond' status, but the law required a bond for the charge. He did the next best thing in setting a bond as high as he could, in an attempt to make it impossible for Casey to post bond.

George is a loose cannon. I hope he gets a smack down of some sort. No one was injured. The protesters were shouting loudly - which I would consider disturbing the peace. Still, George was not acting in self defense and he had no right to start pushing people around. He could use some anger management therapy.

The Anthony's do need to understand where their property line ends and the easement begins. I realize that the homeowner maintains that strip of grass and it is trampled and ripped up now. The impression that the Anthony's are giving is not helpful to their image. They appear more interested in their lawn than in finding Caylee.

The protesters are unsavory, to say the least. That doesn't give George the right to assault them. Why the Anthony's were out there interacting with them tells me that they were looking for trouble too.
Yes, they should have a right to privacy, but they have made the choice to bond Casey out of jail and bring her into their home to live.
They need to lay low and let things settle. The protesters will become bored if they don't get a reaction and they will go away eventually.

It is especially unfortunate that this incident occurred while hundreds of volunteers were out searching with Tim Miller. I think that Sheriff Ken Beary was most reasonable in his plea for everyone to settle down. The protesters have made their point, the Anthony's have made theirs as well. The need for three police cruisers dedicated to one suburban street is a huge burden on the entire community. In fact, it could well be having a detrimental impact on the investigation itself with OCSD so short handed.

The Anthony's know that they are hated by many.
They do not care.
They are not looking for Caylee and show no signs that they will ever search for her.
It is Casey's right to be bonded out of jail on her current charges.
Essentially, the protesters are protesting against our Constitution, which is their right too.
The protesters are harassing the Anthony's and creating an unsafe environment for the entire neighborhood.

Judge Strickland had foresight when he set Casey's bond and said that his decision was not going to please anyone. I didn't really understand what he meant at the time, but he was spot on.

Patience is a virtue!
Casey will not get away with murder.
She is already facing lots of prison time on the current charges.
I don't think that she is having a wonderful time, although it's certainly better than jail.
Casey is either stuck in the house with Cindy or stuck in Baez's office.
November is really not all that far off and Casey will go away for a long time then.
Hopefully, Caylee will be found long before then.
Caylee will receive justice, but it is going to take some time.
I really can't believe that Casey will get away with the loss of Caylee.

It's just so hard to wait for the wheels of justice to turn!



Excellent post!!

[kakax]

I did not mean to yell ,, but 3 pages went by and I had No Answer ,, this is what I posted

Originally Posted by CinTN
TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46577286





His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..
More here ..

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...7930&albumId=0

From what I can tell they are from New Years 2008 ( i think)
__________________



I'm sorry, I saw your post but I have no clue about vets and chloroform. It would be great to get more information on it.

ETA: I couldn't get those links to work.

[OneUp]

does anyone know if vets use chloroform???I think they still do...

Euthanasia.

http://www.vetbase.co.uk/information/euthanasia.php

"In some cases the procedure may differ from the one above with perhaps the injection being made into a different part of the body; e.g. the abdomen from where the drugs are more slowly absorbed or perhaps the ear vein of a rabbit etc. Some vets will use anaesthetic gases at a lethal dose for very small animals in an anaesthetic chamber e.g. chloroform for small mammals such as mice where an injection may be difficult and /or distressing."

[Oregongal]

Just a note before I head off to bed. Does anyone remember GA stating that they knew who the kidnappers were and that they were being watched? DUH! If that were true why didn't he let LE know so they (or SWAT) could go in and rescue Caylee? And if "they" were watching them, where is Caylee now? Evidently GA knows Zenaida & Sam!! And if you believe that, I have some swamp land here in FL..........

There are several posters who have thought and said the same thing...me included.

[day2day]

I don't know. I would have thought the gun in George's car would cause a problem for Casey, but Judge Strickland gave the Anthony's a pass on that. Judge Strickland was very clear when he set Casey's bond at $500,000. He wanted to follow the pros request that Casey be put on a "no bond' status, but the law required a bond for the charge. He did the next best thing in setting a bond as high as he could, in an attempt to make it impossible for Casey to post bond.

George is a loose cannon. I hope he gets a :punch: smack down of some sort. No one was injured. The protesters were shouting loudly - which I would consider disturbing the peace. Still, George was not acting in self defense and he had no right to start pushing people around. He could use some anger management therapy.

The Anthony's do need to understand where their property line ends and the easement begins. I realize that the homeowner maintains that strip of grass and it is trampled and ripped up now. The impression that the Anthony's are giving is not helpful to their image. They appear more interested in their lawn than in finding Caylee.

The protesters are unsavory, to say the least. That doesn't give George the right to assault them. Why the Anthony's were out there interacting with them tells me that they were looking for trouble too.
Yes, they should have a right to privacy, but they have made the choice to bond Casey out of jail and bring her into their home to live.
They need to lay low and let things settle. The protesters will become bored if they don't get a reaction and they will go away eventually.

It is especially unfortunate that this incident occurred while hundreds of volunteers were out searching with Tim Miller. I think that Sheriff Ken Beary was most reasonable in his plea for everyone to settle down. The protesters have made their point, the Anthony's have made theirs as well. The need for three police cruisers dedicated to one suburban street is a huge burden on the entire community. In fact, it could well be having a detrimental impact on the investigation itself with OCSD so short handed.

The Anthony's know that they are hated by many.
They do not care.
They are not looking for Caylee and show no signs that they will ever search for her.
It is Casey's right to be bonded out of jail on her current charges.
Essentially, the protesters are protesting against our Constitution, which is their right too.
The protesters are harassing the Anthony's and creating an unsafe environment for the entire neighborhood.

Judge Strickland had foresight when he set Casey's bond and said that his decision was not going to please anyone. I didn't really understand what he meant at the time, but he was spot on.

Patience is a virtue!
Casey will not get away with murder.
She is already facing lots of prison time on the current charges.
I don't think that she is having a wonderful time, although it's certainly better than jail.
Casey is either stuck in the house with Cindy or stuck in Baez's office.
November is really not all that far off and Casey will go away for a long time then.
Hopefully, Caylee will be found long before then.
Caylee will receive justice, but it is going to take some time.
I really can't believe that Casey will get away with the loss of Caylee.

It's just so hard to wait for the wheels of justice to turn!

Great post blu!! I agree! Casey is going to prison one way or the other. IIRC it could be 19 years. She will not beat those charges. I also believe that LE will NEVER give up on Caylee. I think that if they don't have enough to charge her today..they will keep working on this case until they do.

jmo

[ginky41]

ITA. The family dynamics are certainly odd.

[barskin&co.]

I did not mean to yell ,, but 3 pages went by and I had No Answer ,, this is what I posted

Originally Posted by CinTN
TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46577286


His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..
More here ..

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...7930&albumId=0

From what I can tell they are from New Years 2008 ( i think)
__________________

Sorry, Cin. The links don't work, and I'm not sure what your question was, anyway. :shrug:

[msjoni]

they don't make good husbands either. I had to 'escape' from my first marriage. I would love to know the estimated % of sociopaths in american society today, although it wouldn't be completely accurate, would be eye opening I am sure.

I had to escape from my husband too, but the only way it worked was to make him think I wanted to stay..Reverse psychology....When I asked for a divorce he threatened to take the kids, yada, yada yada..I'm finally free..:)

[barskin&co.]

ITA. The family dynamics are certainly odd.

Odd. Odd??? Oh, aren't we being discreet tonight. :biggrin:

[ginky41]

Odd. Odd??? Oh, aren't we being discreet tonight. :biggrin:

I was actually just testing the "quick reply" feature... :) Ginky doesn't so much like this new dress we're wearing.

If you really wanna know how I feel about this family.....well, it's about the same as 90% of the folks on this board.

[shelbar53]

Excellent post blu!!!

ETA: Why the Anthony's feel they have come out for one thing, and then feel the need to interact in any way with these people is beyond me. Why can't they just stay inside? If Cindy feels the need to pound in stakes and wrap the yellow tape up, why doesn't she pick a time when there are no posters around? I thought she was doing pretty good in ignoring, then it changed in a minute and she was talking back to the protesters and approaching them. Why? Why doesn't she keep her mouth shut. It's like she just cannot stand to not be speaking and involved in some way. The only reason she finally went away is because Lee keep moving her away and back. Finally back behind the fence, but she kept talking until he managed to get her behind their fence. Shaking head here, don't understand.

I think its ironic that cindy is wrapping her home in crime scene tape..... freudian slip?

[day2day]

Odd. Odd??? Oh, aren't we being discreet tonight. :biggrin:

ginky doesn't wanna be the first one tossed outta the new "house"...hammer

[jammies]

I think its ironic that cindy is wrapping her home in crime scene tape..... freudian slip?



wow. never occured to me! :eek:

[why-me]

Hmmm just wondering. Think Casey knew about GA's gun in the car/trunk and she was the one who turned him in thinking that would get her sent back to jail and out of that house? I just can't believe that house is a pleasant place to be all day long.

[jammies]

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936

try this link, guys



"casey <3's me" Huh? Can someone interpret this?

[barskin&co.]

Hmmm just wondering. Think Casey knew about GA's gun in the car/trunk and she was the one who turned him in thinking that would get her sent back to jail and out of that house? I just can't believe that house is a pleasant place to be all day long.


Yeah...why do you think Casey has to have conferences with Jose Baez, all day, every day?

[Pruddennce]

Im getting alot of quoted responses for posts I didnt make lol....

something strange in this very colorful message board....

best regards,
Pru

[Oregongal]

The estimates run around four percent of the general population being sociopathic. That seems like a small #, until you realize that indicates that one in 25 people would be included. Sociopathic behavior does run a spectrum from severe cases to people who live out fairly normal lives and jobs. No socioeconomic group or ethnicity is free of sociopaths.
JMO...Google sociopaths and a plethora of information will come up.
BTW, to Pru or whoever suggested I read "the Sociopath next door" thanks. I've ordered it and look forward to a bit of a read...college is over a decade gone by for me so it will be nice to read some of the updated info. in such a user friendly format.
:)

Wow, so that means I had the unfortunante experience to have a spouse that fell into that 4%? Fortunantly mine was one of those who wasn't a murderer. But, as he grew older and I started recognizing these traits in him, he did come to the place where he was on the edge of violence. He's out of my life now, thank God.
Thanks for the reference of that book or article...When I first got away I was reading everything and anything, I may have even read this. I still have repurcussions and very limited contact and am still interested in learning everything about these people. Maybe someone should put G&C on a mailing list with Amazon for references to books about sociopaths, it may give them some education and insight and possibly break their denial about their daughter. Which could possibly lead to the truth. I wish someone tho would direct them to a counselor that could help them thru this.

[Pruddennce]

Yeah...why do you think Casey has to have conferences with Jose Baez, all day, every day?

separate the family. I dont think its her request being honored...I think it has been suggested.

best regards,
Pru

[GentleBreeze]

Additional thought before I hit the hay. (yeah, I'm originally from the midwest). Expect to see charges filed against Casey for exploiting the elderly too. I don't remember for sure what Cindy paid off out of her 401K but the charges could still stand even though the ALF was paid. Nite Nite. :seeya:

Yes, I agree that might be coming. A reporter on Fox today said her inside sources told her that LE does have other things she could be charged with. I would suspect it is more along the line concerning more fraud charges.

imoo

[cassidy]

Hmmm just wondering. Think Casey knew about GA's gun in the car/trunk and she was the one who turned him in thinking that would get her sent back to jail and out of that house? I just can't believe that house is a pleasant place to be all day long.

Nah. she escapes to Jose's dailyand gets an extension. Seems like they are bending over backwards to make her happy. I don't get it? Why not make her adhere strictly to the terms of her bond?

[Anakerie]

The Anthony home seems to be a disaster just waiting to happen.


Cindy with her need to be seen and heard but not see or hear anyone else.

George with his temper and going after people or yelling and waving his fists around.

Lee, I can't figure out. Mostly I see him trying to drag his parents back towards the house.

As for Casey, I have no words suitable to type into this forum to describe my feelings for her behavior. 'Nuff said.


I wish the protesters would give up and get off camera. And out of the way of the Anthony's. If they keep taunting the Anthony's, the explosion/disaster is going to happen. I look at those stakes that are pounded in the ground and wonder what is going to happen if someone trips and falls on one of them. I am surprised the HOA hasn't cautioned George about them.

I'll ask a question again that I asked earlier; Has anyone heard anything more about the areas that were roped off after the searches left them?

[evalles]

IMO, the Anthonys almost ask for this trouble...they should just stay inside or in the back yard. I believe they like the confrontation.:rolleyes:

They have to leave the house. I don't know why the protestors aren't arrested for harassment or stalking.

[SwFlorida]

Hmmm just wondering. Think Casey knew about GA's gun in the car/trunk and she was the one who turned him in thinking that would get her sent back to jail and out of that house? I just can't believe that house is a pleasant place to be all day long.

If Casey were there. She is a Baez office daily 10-4. :confused:

[Pruddennce]

Yes, I agree that might be coming. A reporter on Fox today said her inside sources told her that LE does have other things she could be charged with. I would suspect it is more along the line concerning more fraud charges.

imoo

I agree. it didnt end with a few swipes of mom's card, amy's bank account and grandmom's money.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[101Spots]

Yeah...why do you think Casey has to have conferences with Jose Baez, all day, every day?

"Conference" is being used as a euphemism.

[barskin&co.]

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936

try this link, guys

Well, she's had boyfriends. Frankly, I couldn't care less. What I care about is that child she had one day, and didn't have the next.
And didn't tell anyone about. And still doesn't tell anyone about. hammer

[ginky41]

Casey Hearts me

Ahhh..Good thinking. Hadn't been able to make sense of that either.

[cassidy]

That isn't even logical considering the fact that it's their place of residence and they have every right to go outside if they wish.

I commend them for not hiding from idiotic protesters whose only wish and purpose there is to get their own mug on teevee.


Heckling the hecklers is what they are doing. IMO

[Briar]

While I don't agree with people making life unbearable by protesting and the media circus that is downright appalling. I just keep thinking that there are people who are SEARCHING. People from this board travelled to search and I am sure there are countless others. People are willing to donate money to find Caylee. People are also spending their time protesting and like I said, normally I wouldn't agree with that. But in this case, unbelivable amounts of money is being spent to bail Casey out instead of bringing in more people to search, to help. The Anthony's haven't gone out to search. They are (appearing) to buy into the ridiculous lies that Casey spews. I think that the more pressure put on them, the sooner they will crack. I personally wouldn't normally sue over a push in the street, but if I thought it would add to the pressure I would. Whatever makes them cave and tell us where Caylee REALLY is, IMO all bets are off.

[Joan Weiss]

I did not mean to yell ,, but 3 pages went by and I had No Answer ,, this is what I posted

Originally Posted by CinTN
TY ,,, I was 'sluthing" today while the board was down and seen that a friend of hers was in Vet School..

This is some one she was friends with on Myspace and i am not sure if LE had looked into him
,,,

He was going to Vet School ..

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46577286


His Name is Matt ,, that happens to be an oldish B-F of heres ...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=3800936

This photo and ONLY comment ..
More here ..

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...7930&albumId=0

From what I can tell they are from New Years 2008 ( i think)
__________________You're not getting an answer because all the links say "page cannot be found." I did see them when you posted originally, though. :confused:

I thought the date was Jan., 2007. That's not very long ago. It also appears to me that this guy is a mover; lived in Europe and visited 20 countries? Not a normal experience for the usual college student.

Hmmm..studying to be a vet. imo

[bchand]

"casey <3's me" Huh? Can someone interpret this?

Casey "hearts" me? loves me


Anyone test the B on the new board yet?

[OneUp]

Additional thought before I hit the hay. (yeah, I'm originally from the midwest). Expect to see charges filed against Casey for exploiting the elderly too. I don't remember for sure what Cindy paid off out of her 401K but the charges could still stand even though the ALF was paid. Nite Nite. :seeya:Today as the board closed I tried to post something in regards to this case and elder abuse. Basically, in cases where the elderly or the handicapped are involved the State steps in and presses charges, they family or guardians have no say. Laws do vary from State to State. In Kansas, she would face additional penalties...I wondered if perhaps one reason DCF visited was regarding the Elder Abuse. Here, if Cindy had tried to protect Casey over her parents and attempted to "hush" things, she too would be considered abusive of their rights and might face a charge....esp. if she had power of attorney and was lergally responsible for their care.
They do a pretty thorough investigation here and then slap on all the charges for ecvery instance here. I thought those charges might take a bit longer because of the investigation factor.
JMO.

[msjoni]

The estimates run around four percent of the general population being sociopathic. That seems like a small #, until you realize that indicates that one in 25 people would be included. Sociopathic behavior does run a spectrum from severe cases to people who live out fairly normal lives and jobs. No socioeconomic group or ethnicity is free of sociopaths.
JMO...Google sociopaths and a plethora of information will come up.
BTW, to Pru or whoever suggested I read "the Sociopath next door" thanks. I've ordered it and look forward to a bit of a read...college is over a decade gone by for me so it will be nice to read some of the updated info. in such a user friendly format.
:)

Its an excellent book...

[jammies]

Casey Hearts me


Oh! I would have never figured that out. Thanks!

[evalles]

The Anthony home seems to be a disaster just waiting to happen.


Cindy with her need to be seen and heard but not see or hear anyone else.

George with his temper and going after people or yelling and waving his fists around.

Lee, I can't figure out. Mostly I see him trying to drag his parents back towards the house.

As for Casey, I have no words suitable to type into this forum to describe my feelings for her behavior. 'Nuff said.


I wish the protesters would give up and get off camera. And out of the way of the Anthony's. If they keep taunting the Anthony's, the explosion/disaster is going to happen. I look at those stakes that are pounded in the ground and wonder what is going to happen if someone trips and falls on one of them. I am surprised the HOA hasn't cautioned George about them.

I'll ask a question again that I asked earlier; Has anyone heard anything more about the areas that were roped off after the searches left them?

I haven't heard anything. Either it was nothing or it's being kept under wraps.
A rumor about a human head belonging to an adult being found then references to a missing girl and Trenton Duckett.

[SwFlorida]

Yeah but DAMN! Just like this board.. WHY can't they ignore these people? WHy feed them? What George and Lee did ...It's exactly what they HOPE the family will do.
Absolutely...They could had closed that garage door and went inside. They like to stir the pot. Why??? I have no clue.

[barskin&co.]

"Conference" is being used as a euphemism.


Oh, yes, I know. And by the way, I am not one of those people who would hint at any hanky-panky. Baez is a criminal defense attorney. I think he knows all too well who Casey really is. He is getting her out of that house every day, because he is afraid what might happen in that house if Casey stays there all day.

[ginky41]

I haven't heard anything. Either it was nothing or it's being kept under wraps.
A rumor about a human head belonging to an adult being found then references to a missing girl and Trenton Duckett.


What about Trenton???

[Joan Weiss]

Yeah but DAMN! Just like this board.. WHY can't they ignore these people? WHy feed them? What George and Lee did ...It's exactly what they HOPE the family will do.Exactly. They go out there when the crowd is there, imo. Like I said, they have all day to do that. My yard or not, I wouldn't do that. jmo

[day2day]

If Casey's having a hard time doing her time in county jail, she's gonna carp down both legs when she hits prison. As a rule, county jails aren't nearly as bad as state prisons for 2 reasons. One reason for the difference is jails that have a large population of petty criminals as opposed to major felony criminals and the other reason is most of the people in state prison are awaiting trials having not yet been found guilty of a crime. Prison is a whole 'nother animal.

I haven't worked in a female prison before so I can't speak to that aspect, but she will find that prison will be much, much tougher. No doubt she will, at least initially, be placed in an ADSEG (administration) unit which is a special kind of hell. Just walking into one will make the hairs on the back of your hair stand on end. You are assaulted by the smells and the sounds, OMG, the noise in those things are amazing. They're all metal and concrete and 24 hours a day, there is clanging, banging, crying, yelling and screaming bouncing off of the walls and floors. Lights are on at all hours. The sheet she uses will be a rough, coarse muslin number. She *may* be in a prison that provides one pillow, but doubtful. She will miss her special pillow, for sure.

She will be lucky in that her parents will no doubt, supply her with commissary money. Having commissary will be a great benefit to her. She will be able to buy food items not supplied to the population at large. She will be able to buy soap and toothpaste medication for headaches and colds. Most importantly, she will be able to buy protection with her commissary items.

She will experience a population of people infected with every disease imaginable. HIV, Hep. C, TB, and MRSA (the whole alphabet, lol.) is rampant. There are epidemics of fungi, boils, bugs, and all the nasties. She will be surrounded with severely mentally ill inmates that in comparison, will make her look like a piker.

I worked in TX, where the inmates aren't allowed TV's in their cells. There is only one in the cell-block which is outside their cells and they can usually see it from their house. The TV is always on junk like cartoons, soap operas and in men's prisons, sports. No cable TV. One will not come away enriched.

A prison experience isn't something you can tell anyone about. It has to be lived to be understood. No matter how well a person "adjusts" all day, every day, is a fear based life. Stress is ubiquitous. Anything can and will happen at any time. A pretty little white girl from the suburbs is going to have a really tough row to hoe. I bet she won't be throwing her little gang signs there.

She will try to manipulate staff and be successful very occasionally, but mostly she'll start to run her game and she'll hear, "Inmate, get somewhere." That means you better shut it down and get humble quickly or you'll "catch a case", meaning a disciplinary action. For the most part, correctional officers will never be charmed. She will have lost that power. That will kill her more than anything else, IMO.

Sorry to go on about this, but I think about this so much and I feel better knowing that at least a small part of justice will be done for the death of Caylee if Casey is indeed found guilty of causing her death.

I could tell prison horror stories all day long. They're fascinating places to visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there, as the old saying goes.

WOWOW...you have made my night!..Thank you for this post. I hope that when she gets to her new "home" they put her in gen pop.

[cassidy]

Yeah but DAMN! Just like this board.. WHY can't they ignore these people? WHy feed them? What George and Lee did ...It's exactly what they HOPE the family will do.

And George and Cindy never disappoint them do they? they'd go away if they weren't getting the attention they seek. IMO Kinda like feeding the stray cats in you neighborhood then complaing when they sleep on you porch isn't it?

[bluwaters]

I think its ironic that cindy is wrapping her home in crime scene tape..... freudian slip?
Carl Hiassen (sp) himself :chicken:couldn't have dreamed this one up, right down to the little details.

[Joan Weiss]

Oh, yes, I know. And by the way, I am not one of those people who would hint at any hanky-panky. Baez is a criminal defense attorney. I think he knows all too well who Casey really is. He is getting her out of that house every day, because he is afraid what might happen in that house if Casey stays there all day.Ah, good point, very intriguing. imo

[cassidy]

Casey is well within the terms of her Bond and has every Right to conference with her Attorney.

LE seems to understand this, not sure why others can't seem to do the same.

I do understand it. I don't understand the multiple extensions of time. We'll see if it happens this time around.

[Anakerie]

I haven't heard anything. Either it was nothing or it's being kept under wraps.<br /> A rumor about a human head belonging to an adult being found then references to a missing girl and Trenton Duckett.<br /> <br /> Wow.. I hadn't read about a human head! Yikes! I suppose we have to be patient until definite word comes out from OCSD.. There seem to be some pretty wild rumors floating about.

ETA: Wow! Bold works again!!!

[ginky41]

WOWOW...you have made my night!..Thank you for this post. I hope that when she gets to her new "home" they put her in gen pop.

Wishful thinking day, people like Casey get extra protection in prison. At least they do here in Idaho. (Speaking of Duncan of course.) Anyhow, I'm sure prison ain't no fun but she'll still be "pampered."

[CinTN]

I'm yelling again to let you know I hopefully fixed the links .. I ask about Vets and Chloroaform because when the board was down I did some "sluthing " and found this ...


Grant it its from New Years 2008 (I think) but it WAS her BF at the time and I am not sure if LE questioned this person


profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286

He was going to VET SCHOOL.. dont know if she could have gotten ahold of the Chloroform from him ..
a photo
viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936#a=42727&i=5130735

read comment ... ONLY COMMENT !!


Another page with more pics ..
viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=170087930&albumId=0

Seems to be a good friend of his ,, I have to go for now but I have more i will post in the am ,,,,,

[bluwaters]

They act afraid of her.

They should be. I couldn't sleep with that one under my roof. Especially since her friends thought that mom and dad were going to give her their house and she had a roommate all ready to move in.
:chicken:

[kakax]

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=46577286&albumID=42727&imageID=3800936

try this link, guys



Thanks, that worked. Man, she gets around..... :chicken:

[tiny paw-prints]

And : Trust No One!!

Amazing how Cindy knew of this Zany the Nanny for 3 years but never met her, talked to her, etc. Nope- not Cindy! She talked to everyone that Casey knew and snooped around to find out anything she could.
I could almost feel the state (lady speaking) at the bond hearing not even believing she was saying the name Zany. Everytime she said that name I swear I thought she was going to laugh.

22 years of age and perhaps learning from my peer group that my Own mother was throwing gossip, trashing or bashing me about town, demeaning me, calling me a "sociopath" and accusing me of "stealing", even if it was partially the truth? Yikes!

Maybe an entire two years of constant threats of taking my child away from me in combination of kicking me to the curb without my child?

I'd certainly be making quick plans to flee from the situation (maybe even in a desperate attempt) to move out of the house with my child in the middle of the night; perhaps never to be seen again. "Trust No One".

Casey and Lee both give the appearance of being in self-control mode. Why are George and Cindy totally out of control? What am I missing?

[101Spots]

Casey Hearts me

Oh, barf. Casey hearts anything with a pulse, from what I can see.

[msjoni]

They have to leave the house. I don't know why the protestors aren't arrested for harassment or stalking.

I believe they have the right to protest PEACEFULLY and with no kids involved.

[shelbar53]

Oh, barf. Casey hearts anything with a pulse, from what I can see.

Pulse? wrong p word

[Anakerie]

WOWOW...you have made my night!..Thank you for this post. I hope that when she gets to her new "home" they put her in gen pop.

If Casey does get sent to prison for her crimes, I am sure she'll be in general population. There is nothing particularly special about her or her crimes. Think about it, is Susan Smith in isolation? Or is she in general population? I'm sure there are plenty of other women who have been sent to prison for what Casey is currently charged with and Casey will fit in just fine with them.

[day2day]

Wishful thinking day, people like Casey get extra protection in prison. At least they do here in Idaho. (Speaking of Duncan of course.) Anyhow, I'm sure prison ain't no fun but she'll still be "pampered."

Yanno that really pisses me off...these monsters kill our children and then we have to pay to protect them. It just doesn't make sense.

Duncan -----monster ..*scares me**

[101Spots]

Oh, yes, I know. And by the way, I am not one of those people who would hint at any hanky-panky. Baez is a criminal defense attorney. I think he knows all too well who Casey really is. He is getting her out of that house every day, because he is afraid what might happen in that house if Casey stays there all day.

I can accept your reasoning. but I do believe that Casey's MO is to attract and devour, much like a black widow spider. Baez may have one motive, but I think Casey is stuck in flirt mode.

[cassidy]

It's rather difficult to ignore the idiocy of the goof-troop out there carrying life-sized dolls :rolleyes:, old ladies who are not even familiar with the fact that a TES search is ongoing for Caylee with intermittent glances at the Media camera who is taping her making a fool of herself, people plastering signs all over their own babies of "Baby Killer" , etc. etc., - all the while pretending to really care about Caylee.

George & Cindy owe those people nothing, but you're right in that a confrontation is exactly what the protesters are hoping for - sickly, for all the wrong reasons.

Positive reinforcement on the part of the Anthony's doesn't seem to be working very well does it? Why not take the high road and quit stooping to their level?

[Anakerie]

Wishful thinking day, people like Casey get extra protection in prison. At least they do here in Idaho. (Speaking of Duncan of course.) Anyhow, I'm sure prison ain't no fun but she'll still be "pampered."
Why would she be "pampered"? What is so special about her?

[OneUp]

I see their interaction with media and the protesters as a way to diffuse the frustration and anger they feel toward their daughter.

If I were them, I'd be a powder keg. But I'd be aiming my energy toward the source of my problems, not at anything and everything else.

This is the way this family has operated for years. IMO.There was some talk laast night about posters on IS displacing their anger at casey onto the grandparents...I'm sure most of us may be a bit guilty of that, though surely there is plenty of liability to go around...I actually have been feeling that displacement is exactly why George and Cindy go out into their front lawn themselves to ham mer. I think that frustration has to go somewhere, and they are absolutley refusing to give Casey one iota of grief or hold her in any way responsible as they feel so bad the "Big bad LE" is out to get her.:rolleyes:
Instead, they seek out confrontation with people who might well be on their side if they acted like they gave a rip for their sweet little grandbaby. I do think they loved Caylee...but I think they have decided that she is now post tense in their lives.
I know many here disagree with me, but denial just does not make sense to describe the allegiance with Casey by all three close family memebers...there is usually at least one person who has it together enough to wake up and smell the coffee. it's not as if she hasn't engaged in plenty of awful behaviors before...they know she is no saint. I could see believeing it was an accident...but I don't see all three actually believeing the ridiculous claims of a "script".
JMO.

[ginky41]

Yanno that really pisses me off...these monsters kill our children and then we have to pay to protect them. It just doesn't make sense.

Duncan -----monster ..*scares me**

Yep, my soon-to-be MIL and FIL both work at the prison. My MIL has escorted Duncan. Made me sick to know she's been face to face with him. But, what's more maddening is how much protection he gets while in prison. There is a hit on him in the gen pop according to my FIL.

[101Spots]

Pulse? wrong p word

Au contraire. Remember those photos from Fusion? A "p-word" was not involved.

[MichelleP]

It's rather difficult to ignore the idiocy of the goof-troop out there carrying life-sized dolls :rolleyes:, old ladies who are not even familiar with the fact that a TES search is ongoing for Caylee with intermittent glances at the Media camera who is taping her making a fool of herself, people plastering signs all over their own babies of "Baby Killer" , etc. etc., - all the while pretending to really care about Caylee.

George & Cindy owe those people nothing, but you're right in that a confrontation is exactly what the protesters are hoping for - sickly, for all the wrong reasons.

And have something like this happen http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0908/17419701.pdf or worse to one or more of the people standing on public property.

[zippy]

Both young mothers, both partied, both had my space friends and quick delete of pages, telephone pings and map, tattoos and the biiggest one was the use of the word"kidnap." And Melinda did live at one time with her Grandmother.

[ginky41]

Why would she be "pampered"? What is so special about her?

Pampered meaning probably not in gen pop. It's a high profile case and lots of times high profile prisoners become "attractive" to current inmates. In other words, lots of notoriety for being the one to get to the "fresh meat."

[kakax]

I can accept your reasoning. but I do believe that Casey's MO is to attract and devour, much like a black widow spider. Baez may have one motive, but I think Casey is stuck in flirt mode.

I'm more in the camp of Baez wanting to protect Casey from saying anything to her family. The longer they sit together, the more time the GPs have to harp on her. I still find it odd that its hours EVERY day. There is definitely some method to this madness...only Baez and Casey know what it is.

[OneUp]

"casey <3's me" Huh? Can someone interpret this?
The <3's is suppose to look like a heart...i.e. Casey loves me...

[joolz]

Carl Hiassen (sp) himself :chicken:couldn't have dreamed this one up, right down to the little details.

You are so right! Except that in one of his novels, some of this would have been hysterically funny in a very, very dark way.;)

[ginky41]

She will no doubt have protection while in custody, but she will trade her realtive 'freedom" as a general population inmate for it. She will NOT be "pampered". I can't tell you the number of psychotic breaks I've seen in inmates in the SEG units from the conditions. It is not, in any way, an "easy" existence, IMO.

You're right, pampered was not the right word. Certainly protected and therefore shielded from gen pop.

[ginky41]

I have never understood why they protect these people once they go to prison imo they should be on there own.

I couldn't agree more.

[evalles]

That isn't even logical considering the fact that it's their place of residence and they have every right to go outside if they wish.

I commend them for not hiding from idiotic protesters whose only wish and purpose there is to get their own mug on teevee.


Hey, when the protester filed a report against GA she provided all her identiying info to LE, maybe somebody should arrange a protest at her home protesting her protesting. Or protesting dumb people in general.
Whadaya think ?
Maybe there should also be protests outside the courts whenever there's a decision we don't like or protests outside the home of a cop that gave us a ticket we don't think we deserved.
Oh wait. We'd get arrested for harassment wouldn't we ?

[bchand]

Greta - up next - from Alaska - breaking news in the Caylee Anthony case. Who wants to bet she just found out about George pushing someone?

[SwFlorida]

Pampered meaning probably not in gen pop. It's a high profile case and lots of times high profile prisoners become "attractive" to current inmates. In other words, lots of notoriety for being the one to get to the "fresh meat."
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that even prisoners didn't take kindly to baby killers.

[Joan Weiss]

They have to leave the house. I don't know why the protestors aren't arrested for harassment or stalking.They aren't just leaving the house. They are marching right into the protesters with a Hammer and a stick. I noticed Cindy running over to George with that stake in her hand. :chicken: imo

[kakax]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html


If anyone is interested in watching live MyFox Orlando now and at 11. They may have already covered this case...I just clicked it on.

[ginky41]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that even prisoners didn't take kindly to baby killers.

Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. Especially when their case is high-profile, like this one.

[anyonesguess]

And have something like this happen http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0908/17419701.pdf or worse to one or more of the people standing on public property.

Didn't Martha Stewart do something similar with people outside of her property once?

[kakax]

Greta - up next - from Alaska - breaking news in the Caylee Anthony case. Who wants to bet she just found out about George pushing someone?


LOL...maybe it is the new developments about the argument. I'll put a tootsie roll down for my ante.

[tiny paw-prints]

It's rather difficult to ignore the idiocy of the goof-troop out there carrying life-sized dolls :rolleyes:, old ladies who are not even familiar with the fact that a TES search is ongoing for Caylee with intermittent glances at the Media camera who is taping her making a fool of herself, people plastering signs all over their own babies of "Baby Killer" , etc. etc., - all the while pretending to really care about Caylee.

George & Cindy owe those people nothing, but you're right in that a confrontation is exactly what the protesters are hoping for - sickly, for all the wrong reasons.

I agree, many of the protesters are setting a poor example of "human relations" and tolerance, patience, etc., and although it's some of the qualities that I believe George and Cindy lack as (1) individuals, then as (2) parents and then as (3) grandparents. Unfortunately; two wrongs don't make it right.

George and Cindy are FIRST individuals and responsible for their own individual human behavior; before parenting and grandparenting which are secondary.

[SoggyBayou]

Greta - up next - from Alaska - breaking news in the Caylee Anthony case. Who wants to bet she just found out about George pushing someone?

I'll bet you are right.

[OneUp]

Nah. she escapes to Jose's dailyand gets an extension. Seems like they are bending over backwards to make her happy. I don't get it? Why not make her adhere strictly to the terms of her bond?I think the corrections board may be allowing a bit more leniency so that Baez doesn't harass them about violating her rights and being punative towards her prior to sentencing...that may be way off base, but it's all I could come up with.
I agree she is being let step all over the boundaries. I'm a beeyotch and a strict rule enforcer, I'd enforce to the letter on Casey not specifically for what I THINK she has done to Caylee, but for what she HAS done all her life...getting away with special treatment and allowances for her behaviors. To me it's enabling just like If I bought cough syrup by the case for an alcoholic. Why allow someone to continue with destructive and unecessary behaviors?
JMO.

[cassidy]

I'll bet you are right.

And I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to find out.. Nite everyone!

[Amy S.]

Both cases are in FL. and neither children have been found.

[MichelleP]

Hey, when the protester filed a report against GA she provided all her identiying info to LE, maybe somebody should arrange a protest at her home protesting her protesting. Or protesting dumb people in general.
Whadaya think ?
Maybe there should also be protests outside the courts whenever there's a decision we don't like or protests outside the home of a cop that gave us a ticket we don't think we deserved.
Oh wait. We'd get arrested for harassment wouldn't we ?

I don't think you would, no.

[Joan Weiss]

She will almost certainly be in protective custody at first because this is such a high profile case and she will be in danger from the other inmates both by the nature of her alleged crimes and by the notoriety. Once the "new" is over, she probably will be moved to GP, but it won't happen for a while, IMO.i've watched specials on MSNBC about women in prison, they don't look as harsh as the one you described. Maybe the men's prisons are like that, but I don't think the filth you describe is quite as bad in women's prisons. I've also never heard/read of women's prisons being as noisy as the men's. imo

[jammies]

The <3's is suppose to look like a heart...i.e. Casey loves me...

I am so not up on this stuff. Glad ya'll are here to decipher!

[SwFlorida]

Is there protesters at the house tonight?
I dont see any.

[101Spots]

LOL...maybe it is the new developments about the argument. I'll put a tootsie roll down for my ante.

I'll see your tootsie roll and raise you a snack-sized Snickers.

[spiritwolf46]

LOL!!!! Bet that you are right on the money! ;)Greta - up next - from Alaska - breaking news in the Caylee Anthony case. Who wants to bet she just found out about George pushing someone?

[Freefall]

If Casey does get sent to prison for her crimes, I am sure she'll be in general population. There is nothing particularly special about her or her crimes. Think about it, is Susan Smith in isolation? Or is she in general population? I'm sure there are plenty of other women who have been sent to prison for what Casey is currently charged with and Casey will fit in just fine with them.

My understanding is that if you make a case that your life is (or maybe is) in danger you can apply for protective custody within the facility. Administrative segregation, from what I've read, is no different than isolation although I'm sure each facility has it's own procedures. If Casey is convicted of murdering Caylee I would assume that being a "baby killer" would be a good reason to get your own cell.

[joypath]

Is there protesters at the house tonight?

According to the 10 pm news: only 2 women who were silent protesters holding large white angel cut-outs IIRC labeled "angel killer".
She did interview a neighbor who was ticked off at the protests and the danger to her kids by the traffic & protesters. The neighbr did acknowledge that Miss Casey is eligible to be bonded out per the legal system.

[Laurieann]

Pulse? wrong p word

eh.. after a little time in the pen, it won't matter which "p" word you use.

[OneUp]

If Casey's having a hard time doing her time in county jail, she's gonna carp down both legs when she hits prison. As a rule, county jails aren't nearly as bad as state prisons for 2 reasons. One reason for the difference is jails that have a large population of petty criminals as opposed to major felony criminals and the other reason is most of the people in state prison are awaiting trials having not yet been found guilty of a crime. Prison is a whole 'nother animal.

I haven't worked in a female prison before so I can't speak to that aspect, but she will find that prison will be much, much tougher. No doubt she will, at least initially, be placed in an ADSEG (administration) unit which is a special kind of hell. Just walking into one will make the hairs on the back of your hair stand on end. You are assaulted by the smells and the sounds, OMG, the noise in those things are amazing. They're all metal and concrete and 24 hours a day, there is clanging, banging, crying, yelling and screaming bouncing off of the walls and floors. Lights are on at all hours. The sheet she uses will be a rough, coarse muslin number. She *may* be in a prison that provides one pillow, but doubtful. She will miss her special pillow, for sure.

She will be lucky in that her parents will no doubt, supply her with commissary money. Having commissary will be a great benefit to her. She will be able to buy food items not supplied to the population at large. She will be able to buy soap and toothpaste medication for headaches and colds. Most importantly, she will be able to buy protection with her commissary items.

She will experience a population of people infected with every disease imaginable. HIV, Hep. C, TB, and MRSA (the whole alphabet, lol.) is rampant. There are epidemics of fungi, boils, bugs, and all the nasties. She will be surrounded with severely mentally ill inmates that in comparison, will make her look like a piker.

I worked in TX, where the inmates aren't allowed TV's in their cells. There is only one in the cell-block which is outside their cells and they can usually see it from their house. The TV is always on junk like cartoons, soap operas and in men's prisons, sports. No cable TV. One will not come away enriched.

A prison experience isn't something you can tell anyone about. It has to be lived to be understood. No matter how well a person "adjusts" all day, every day, is a fear based life. Stress is ubiquitous. Anything can and will happen at any time. A pretty little white girl from the suburbs is going to have a really tough row to hoe. I bet she won't be throwing her little gang signs there.

She will try to manipulate staff and be successful very occasionally, but mostly she'll start to run her game and she'll hear, "Inmate, get somewhere." That means you better shut it down and get humble quickly or you'll "catch a case", meaning a disciplinary action. For the most part, correctional officers will never be charmed. She will have lost that power. That will kill her more than anything else, IMO.

Sorry to go on about this, but I think about this so much and I feel better knowing that at least a small part of justice will be done for the death of Caylee if Casey is indeed found guilty of causing her death.

I could tell prison horror stories all day long. They're fascinating places to visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there, as the old saying goes.>>>>>Shudder<<<<<
I toured the State Penetentiary once. That was more than enough for me....God bless you for working with that population, not many people can. My stepfather was a prison guard in White Plains, NY..he had many stories...the young man from the "Amityville" story was in his area for a while( his name escapes me right now?)...he said he was very creepy but by no means to worst prisoner to deal with.

[Joan Weiss]

Hey, when the protester filed a report against GA she provided all her identiying info to LE, maybe somebody should arrange a protest at her home protesting her protesting. Or protesting dumb people in general.
Whadaya think ?
Maybe there should also be protests outside the courts whenever there's a decision we don't like or protests outside the home of a cop that gave us a ticket we don't think we deserved.
Oh wait. We'd get arrested for harassment wouldn't we ?Nope. What country are you from? Public property belongs to the public. :patriot:

[kakax]

I'll see your tootsie roll and raise you a snack-sized Snickers.


Oh my favorite!! :D

[evalles]

I believe they have the right to protest PEACEFULLY and with no kids involved.

But where are the lines drawn ? What's next ? Should protests be allowed because by straight people in front of the homes of gay people or should protests be allowed in front of my home because my teenaged daughter is pregnant ? This is a private residence and it's affecting the entire neighborhood.

[anyonesguess]

If Casey does get sent to prison for her crimes, I am sure she'll be in general population. There is nothing particularly special about her or her crimes. Think about it, is Susan Smith in isolation? Or is she in general population? I'm sure there are plenty of other women who have been sent to prison for what Casey is currently charged with and Casey will fit in just fine with them.

The prison I worked at did have cable tv in the dayroom, pool tables in the dayroom, each offender had their own TV's in their cells if they bought them, and headsets for stereo. They had their weight room with a big screen TV, softball field regulation size, free medical, free dental, free counseling, free schooling for GED or college. If you chose not to work within the prison you were isolated to a certain pod, and did not receive the privileges of recreation etc. We had a segregation pod as well for those that wanted to be there for whatever reason and psych offenders were placed there as well.

I think it just varies from state to state as to what some prisons have and don't have. I do agree that you come in contact with any and all diseases. We even had mail offenders that were allowed by the doctor at the prison to continue taking their female hormones they took before they were incarcerated.

[kakax]

See you a Bit o' honey and raise you a BB Bat the Breaking News is neither Breaking nor News.


Wait, wait, wait....we all think it isn't breaking news...can I still have the Bit o' honey?

[bchand]

Greta doing the ole bait and keep em waiting trick. I guarantee you she'll say at about 10:55 - breaking news - George Anthony may be charged with battery !!!

[101Spots]

Oh my favorite!! :D

DH is a candyholic. We got it all. Funny tho - *he* eats it but it ends up on *my* thighs. Sigh......

[why-me]

If Casey's having a hard time doing her time in county jail, she's gonna carp down both legs when she hits prison. As a rule, county jails aren't nearly as bad as state prisons for 2 reasons. One reason for the difference is jails that have a large population of petty criminals as opposed to major felony criminals and the other reason is most of the people in state prison are awaiting trials having not yet been found guilty of a crime. Prison is a whole 'nother animal.

I haven't worked in a female prison before so I can't speak to that aspect, but she will find that prison will be much, much tougher. No doubt she will, at least initially, be placed in an ADSEG (administration) unit which is a special kind of hell. Just walking into one will make the hairs on the back of your hair stand on end. You are assaulted by the smells and the sounds, OMG, the noise in those things are amazing. They're all metal and concrete and 24 hours a day, there is clanging, banging, crying, yelling and screaming bouncing off of the walls and floors. Lights are on at all hours. The sheet she uses will be a rough, coarse muslin number. She *may* be in a prison that provides one pillow, but doubtful. She will miss her special pillow, for sure.

She will be lucky in that her parents will no doubt, supply her with commissary money. Having commissary will be a great benefit to her. She will be able to buy food items not supplied to the population at large. She will be able to buy soap and toothpaste medication for headaches and colds. Most importantly, she will be able to buy protection with her commissary items.

She will experience a population of people infected with every disease imaginable. HIV, Hep. C, TB, and MRSA (the whole alphabet, lol.) is rampant. There are epidemics of fungi, boils, bugs, and all the nasties. She will be surrounded with severely mentally ill inmates that in comparison, will make her look like a piker.

I worked in TX, where the inmates aren't allowed TV's in their cells. There is only one in the cell-block which is outside their cells and they can usually see it from their house. The TV is always on junk like cartoons, soap operas and in men's prisons, sports. No cable TV. One will not come away enriched.

A prison experience isn't something you can tell anyone about. It has to be lived to be understood. No matter how well a person "adjusts" all day, every day, is a fear based life. Stress is ubiquitous. Anything can and will happen at any time. A pretty little white girl from the suburbs is going to have a really tough row to hoe. I bet she won't be throwing her little gang signs there.

She will try to manipulate staff and be successful very occasionally, but mostly she'll start to run her game and she'll hear, "Inmate, get somewhere." That means you better shut it down and get humble quickly or you'll "catch a case", meaning a disciplinary action. For the most part, correctional officers will never be charmed. She will have lost that power. That will kill her more than anything else, IMO.

Sorry to go on about this, but I think about this so much and I feel better knowing that at least a small part of justice will be done for the death of Caylee if Casey is indeed found guilty of causing her death.

I could tell prison horror stories all day long. They're fascinating places to visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there, as the old saying goes.

I knew there was a good reason I have never been. I can't even begin to imagine knowing that a person would spend the rest of their life in a place like that. But then one day would surellly be too much. YUCK!!

[Joan Weiss]

Is there protesters at the house tonight?:shrug: I'm betting not, since there are no more searches going on. imo

[evalles]

Nope. What country are you from? Public property belongs to the public. :patriot:


Too bad I'm not close enough to park my a!! in front of the crazy old lady's driveway.

[OneUp]

I guess we are all from the dumb club:shrug:because i dont see it myself. Maybe a couple times a week whats she think spending all day with him is gonna cause her to remeber where she left her child.:cuss:Don't feel badly...I don't get it either. She also has a right to attend church, but I don't imagine we will see her being approved for 30 hours of church a week. I think it is meant to be a reasonable time for the need. I cannot imagine 30+ hours is the norm on ehr charges, especially as much of the Proof comes from casey's own admissions...even she said it was dumb to do as she did for Petes sake!
I think I'll bug some of my local buddies at the County Attorney's tomorrow just to see what they have to say about the hours Baez needs...maybe he is just a slow reader?

[kakax]

Greta doing the ole bait and keep em waiting trick. I guarantee you she'll say at about 10:55 - breaking news - George Anthony may be charged with battery !!!


A quick check of the local news sites and there isn't anything breaking for sure.

[ginky41]

Shocker. breaking news :biggrin: No new charges filed. Shocker. GA. Had. Gun. In .His. Car...breaking news as of I dunno 72 hours ago..:D

When will they learn that the breaking news is *here*?

:biggrin:

[Freefall]

But where are the lines drawn ? What's next ? Should protests be allowed because by straight people in front of the homes of gay people or should protests be allowed in front of my home because my teenaged daughter is pregnant ? This is a private residence and it's affecting the entire neighborhood.

The lines are always moving. Depends on where you are. Is it right that religious groups are allowed to picket funerals of soldiers? I personally don't think so, but legally it is. I guess it depends on the morals and ethics of the protestors and the reasons for the protests. If it's legal I'm sure someone will show up.

IMO

[101Spots]

Don't feel badly...I don't get it either. She also has a right to attend church, but I don't imagine we will see her being approved for 30 hours of church a week. I think it is meant to be a reasonable time for the need. I cannot imagine 30+ hours is the norm on ehr charges, especially as much of the Proof comes from casey's own admissions...even she said it was dumb to do as she did for Petes sake!
I think I'll bug some of my local buddies at the County Attorney's tomorrow just to see what they have to say about the hours Baez needs...maybe he is just a slow reader?

Isn't she subject to random checks by her case officer? I say send that person to Baez's office to check on what she's really doing.

[msjoni]

I agree with the bulk of your post.

However, in my case, my anger toward the gp's isn't displaced anger toward their daughter. I find the whole bunch of them vile and despicable. I've got plenty of anger to go around with this group. Lying bunch of lowlifes, the lot of them.

ITA with you, although when this first happened I felt sorry for them. NOW is a different matter, they're true colors came through.

[Joan Weiss]

They are not necessarily filthy in what you see, it's the germs. Any place where you have a large population of people living together, especially people who come from the outside world with diseases already on-board, you will have a large amount of communicable illnesses. The ones I saw in particular were skin infections and fungal infections. I mean NASTY!

An example of how some live: when I was called to an inmate's "house" to check on his well-being, he was at his toilet doing something. <gross alert> He had one of those toilet/sink combos and the toilet had green slime in it. He had bought a can of jack mackerel at commissary and had dumped the can in his toilet to separate the bones from the flesh before fishing it out and eating it. That's just one example of many, many. Filthy.barf As long as he's happy...
I know they wash their underwear in the toilet, and they cook on top of it. Ewww...

[kakax]

Well we have a winner....Bchand gets all the candy :(

[shelbar53]

finally after the commerical greta will have something on but i thinks its gonna be about the protesters.

[Joan Weiss]

Isn't she subject to random checks by her case officer? I say send that person to Baez's office to check on what she's really doing.I don't think they can invade the atty/client domain. imo

[anyonesguess]

That's about the same experience I had while working at a federal penitentiary. The inmates there were "coddled". But Texas state prisons, at least the one where I worked gave no extras. Aside from what I already wrote, they couldn't wear hair below the collar, and they had to be clean-shaven unless they had a clipper/shave pass which was only given to inmates with folliculitis barbae which is a chronic ingrown beard situation. State prison in TX and the feds were a whole different ball of year. Of course conditions vary GREATLY from state to state and somethimes intrastate, also.

The prison I worked in was a state prison maximum security prison. They could wear their hair as long or short as they wanted, and same with beard. Many kept themselves groomed and would press their clothes like a professional dry cleaner had done them, military style.

[bchand]

Well we have a winner....Bchand gets all the candy :(

:beer:


Yes we're gonna see the protesters SWARMING the Anthony home. (pssssst Greta - they're all gone)

[Kathlb]

Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~
It's rather difficult to ignore the idiocy of the goof-troop out there carrying life-sized dolls , old ladies who are not even familiar with the fact that a TES search is ongoing for Caylee with intermittent glances at the Media camera who is taping her making a fool of herself, people plastering signs all over their own babies of "Baby Killer" , etc. etc., - all the while pretending to really care about Caylee.

George & Cindy owe those people nothing, but you're right in that a confrontation is exactly what the protesters are hoping for - sickly, for all the wrong reasons.
=================

BUT its their right to do so.


The lady that George pushed did search with TES earlier that day. She stated so on NG tonight. After the search ended for the day they came out to the Anthony's. So you must have missed that info DG.

[kakax]

:beer:


Yes we're gonna see the protesters SWARMING the Anthony home. (pssssst Greta - they're all gone)

Sheesh she can't even get the old breaking news right!!

[Joan Weiss]

Party pooper. :no:

:biggrin:Oh, what's up with that? Have to post ten characters? No more short and sweet icons...

[msjoni]

The prison I worked at did have cable tv in the dayroom, pool tables in the dayroom, each offender had their own TV's in their cells if they bought them, and headsets for stereo. They had their weight room with a big screen TV, softball field regulation size, free medical, free dental, free counseling, free schooling for GED or college. If you chose not to work within the prison you were isolated to a certain pod, and did not receive the privileges of recreation etc. We had a segregation pod as well for those that wanted to be there for whatever reason and psych offenders were placed there as well.

I think it just varies from state to state as to what some prisons have and don't have. I do agree that you come in contact with any and all diseases. We even had mail offenders that were allowed by the doctor at the prison to continue taking their female hormones they took before they were incarcerated.

:eek: that doesn't sound so bad to me.

[shelbar53]

OMG greta says there are protesters at the home...did we know that?...thank goodness greta is keeping us in the know

[MichelleP]

I've wondered why these people don't have to get a permit.

Maybe they don't need one?

[Joan Weiss]

I've wondered why these people don't have to get a permit.They're not having a "rally."

[Joan Weiss]

OMG greta says there are protesters at the home...did we know that?...thank goodness greta is keeping us in the knowDoes this mean everyone's gonna quit picking on NG? ;)

[spiritwolf46]

Was it just Cindy who was allegedly advised/threatening to take custody of Caylee from Casey or was it Cindy and George?

TIA


I kind of wondered that as well. Anyone heard about this?

[OneUp]

But where are the lines drawn ? What's next ? Should protests be allowed because by straight people in front of the homes of gay people or should protests be allowed in front of my home because my teenaged daughter is pregnant ? This is a private residence and it's affecting the entire neighborhood. do agree on the private residence issue. I was under the impression that a protest required a permit, and I would think that a protest would generally be on more "public" venues like actual public offices or businesses.
I personally would hate having any of this in my neighborhood just for noise and traffic.It wouldn't worry me about my children as they do not play in the street or front yard and I don't have any child playing outside alone at all until they are pretty old by most peoples standards. I go out and play with them until they are nearly too big to play at all...:) What fun!!!

[kakax]

Does this mean everyone's gonna quit picking on NG? ;)


I'm thankful NG is still covering it so much. Soon it will be off to other stories though if nothing further breaks.

For Caylee :rose:

[msjoni]

But where are the lines drawn ? What's next ? Should protests be allowed because by straight people in front of the homes of gay people or should protests be allowed in front of my home because my teenaged daughter is pregnant ? This is a private residence and it's affecting the entire neighborhood.

The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, the freedom of assembly, and the freedom to petition. Would you prefer a police state?:confused: