Sun Aft, 9/7, #2 [STAY ON TOPIC OR LOSE POSTING PRIVILEGES]

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[Ckrdpast]

thanks bluey

for the candle sight and the new thread

boxer if your around check your pm

[Carol25]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose: [/*]
Thank you, Bluwaters!

[kakax]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose: [/*]

Thank you, my friend!!

[chrissybot]

Present. I would like to add my opinion as to the LE saying they have always stated they are searching for a "live" Caylee. If some of you remember, the night Casey was arrested live on NG, the LE came on later that night with a presser & the LE repeatedly stated, "we are looking for Caylee Marie Anthony." That was the 1st time LE has ever NOT said "live". We were discussing it that evening. If anyone can verify for me, please do. JMO JMO JMO

:rose: Caylee

[marshmallow]

I've been a bit busy lately and will try to read up when I can. Has Casey's atty. released any statements over the weekend?

[kakax]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/


He has gone to Jay Blanchard park and Hidden Oaks School. He must up with searchers at the school. He is reporting that divers are currently diving in several lakes.

Check his blog for further details.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Dunnie present. LE will never admit in public they are not looking for a "live" Caylee, even though the evidence is pointing to a deceased Caylee.

JMO. [/*]I agree. LE asked Tim to search in certain locations..none being the location one would hope to find a live child.

[AJandTam]

Thanks for the new thread. Much better. I'm all caught up. For now..

I agree Dunnie. I doubt the Le will say they think that Caylee is gone.

[trich]

my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:)

[desmom]

Originally posted by Barefooted
someone please PM me the house number on Anthonys home so I can try the 3 mile radius search thingie. thanks. [/*]

:seeya: Done.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin
I agree. LE asked Tim to search in certain locations..none being the location one would hope to find a live child. [/*]

Hi Chillin' LTNS

No, the Le rarely ever say they think that the missing is not alive, although, IIRC they did in the Laci P case. Mostly we just get tidbits of evidence that could lead the reader to conclude the missing is no longer alive.

[bluwaters]

Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Cyber Search Update
from David Lohr

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-7.html

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]

Congratulations on the new baby...

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Dunnie present. LE will never admit in public they are not looking for a "live" Caylee, even though the evidence is pointing to a deceased Caylee.

JMO. [/*]

Why is that?? Are they waiting for Casey to break? I mean I believe, & I believe LE believes(why else would they beg Tim to stay) that Caylee is deceased. I personally also believe they have a ton of evidence proving Caylee is deceased. But I do understand what your saying. I just wonder why they don't say it plainly outright.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Quite honestly, I feel very bad for Tim. He "lived" through this once and I understand what he is trying to do. May God Bless him.

:rose: [/*]

Agreed :beer:

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by chrissybot


Why is that?? Are they waiting for Casey to break? I mean I believe, & I believe LE believes(why else would they beg Tim to stay) that Caylee is deceased. I personally also believe they have a ton of evidence proving Caylee is deceased. But I do understand what your saying. I just wonder why they don't say it plainly outright. [/*]

Probably for the same reason they call suspects "Persons of interest" instead of suspects. They have to tip toe around being sued.

[barskin&co.]

Originally posted by Chillin
I agree. LE asked Tim to search in certain locations..none being the location one would hope to find a live child. [/*]
And, of course, Cindy is already rehearsing her new mantra in case Caylee's remains are found:

TIM MILLER: I`m not asking for cooperation from that family. I do not ask them for anything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cindy Anthony released a statement attacking the very searcher that she called and asked to come to Orlando to search for her granddaughter, Caylee. Cindy Anthony claims both the head of Equusearch, Tim Miller, and the bounty hunter, Larry Padilla, came to Florida under false pretenses.

TIM MILLER: I do not believe that Caylee is alive. I believe Caylee is within three miles of where we are sitting right now.

CINDY ANTHONY: You guys are going to put Caylee in a coffin because, eventually, something`s going to happen to her if we don`t find her.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/04/ng.01.html
Caylee's death will be the fault of LE, the media, everybody else in the world except Casey, etc....

[OneUp]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]
Congrats on the new family member!
Ty Bluwaters for the link!

Bringing my last post over....

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Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I think she most likely covered her with a blanket and may not have ever unwrapped her. The blanket also would intensify putrefaction.

imoo [/*]
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I do think it very likely that there is a blanket or MAYBE a rug missing in connection with Caylee, probably something from her own room. Just based upon past cases and recurring criminal behavior, that would be a typical way to transport a deceased person. Wrapping a body will limit forensic trasfer, somewhat "disguise" what is being transported, and shield the bearer from looking right at the outcome of their deed.
JMO.


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"Eyes that do not cry, do not see" -Swedish proverb-

[bluwaters]

Gawkers descend on Anthony home

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372477&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Gawkers from as far away as Indiana descended Sunday at the Anthony home, where Casey Anthony is out on bond under home confinement. One woman knocked on the Anthony door, but when no one answered, she left a bouquet of roses at the doorstep, according to FoOX 35 News reporter Cheryl Getuiza.
Casey Anthony, the 22-year-old mother of missing toddler Caylee Antony , is out on bond facing charges of child neglect, lying to police and check fraud. Her brother, Lee, was keeping her company Sunday after her parents, Cindy and George, left before 10 a.m. this morning.
Another weekly vigil is planned for around 8:30 p.m, tonight outside the Anthony house.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by AJandTam


Hi Chillin' LTNS

No, the Le rarely ever say they think that the missing is not alive, although, IIRC they did in the Laci P case. Mostly we just get tidbits of evidence that could lead the reader to conclude the missing is no longer alive. [/*]

Hi Girl ..been a long time..:seeya:

I agree with you post.

[greylover]

I've been wondering about this for a few days. If Casey was given a "30 day script" and Caylee had been missing for 31 days at the point that CA found out she was missing, then why does she need to continue to follow said script?

I mean, after all, the 30 days have already run........


jmo

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Dunnie
"Hope springs eternal"? Maybe, just maybe, Caylee is not deceased. And they are hoping for a tip that means something. I don't think they will get one though.

:(

This child is deceased at the hands of someone. [/*]

And if that someone wasnt Casey she'd be telling the police what happen and where her child was last seen..not giving lie after lie.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by greylover
I've been wondering about this for a few days. If Casey was given a "30 day script" and Caylee had been missing for 31 days at the point that CA found out she was missing, then why does she need to continue to follow said script?

I mean, after all, the 30 days have already run........


jmo [/*]IMO she didnt do her math before she lied.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Quite honestly, I feel very bad for Tim. He "lived" through this once and I understand what he is trying to do. May God Bless him.

:rose: [/*]My heart and prayers go out to Tim...he has lived through this once, and relives it every time he goes out for another family...another missing person.
Thank God that he was able to find his way out of the depths of sorrow and go on to give what he does.
:) Tim is doing what every person should, using his life,good and bad, to make the lives of others better in some way. There is no price one could put on the relief and support TES and Tim Miller have provided so many with! That dedication is priceless!
JMO.

[desmom]

Originally posted by greylover
I've been wondering about this for a few days. If Casey was given a "30 day script" and Caylee had been missing for 31 days at the point that CA found out she was missing, then why does she need to continue to follow said script?

I mean, after all, the 30 days have already run........


jmo [/*]

:beer:

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by greylover
I've been wondering about this for a few days. If Casey was given a "30 day script" and Caylee had been missing for 31 days at the point that CA found out she was missing, then why does she need to continue to follow said script?

I mean, after all, the 30 days have already run........


jmo [/*]

get outa my head! I thought that exact same thing earlier. This chic lives in one huge fairytail lala land! JMO

[greylover]

Originally posted by Chillin
IMO she didnt do her math before she lied. [/*]


Absolutely.......;)

jmo

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin


And if that someone wasnt Casey she'd be telling the police what happen and where her child was last seen..not giving lie after lie. [/*]

Agreed and making up stories.

[pollyw]

Does anyone else think that Casey burned little Caylee and scattered the ashes? Ever since I heard about the gasoline cans, that's what I have felt.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]

CONGRATULATIONS!! someone upthread said it was grandparent's day...what a wonderful gift!

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by pollyw
Does anyone else think that Casey burned little Caylee and scattered the ashes? Ever since I heard about the gasoline cans, that's what I have felt. [/*]No.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by greylover
I've been wondering about this for a few days. If Casey was given a "30 day script" and Caylee had been missing for 31 days at the point that CA found out she was missing, then why does she need to continue to follow said script?

I mean, after all, the 30 days have already run........


jmo [/*]I can see why this is bugging you...just like the rest of us, you have common sense and can plainly see that the pieces don't add up. These people (Casey, etc.) just think they can throw anything out there and it will be taken at face value...that people will accept it and move on. I don't think any of them ever expected that they needed an accurate story that would stand up to scrutiny. Casey has certainly never needed to do so in the past.
JMO.

[crimeq]

Someone on the morning thread suggested that Cindy, George and Casey had all been involved in Caylee's disappearance from Day One, and have been hanging together in their story ever since.

The postulation was made that the "fighting" heard by neighbors at the Anthony home may not have been fighting, but screaming--perhaps coming upon a dead Caylee, however that happened.

If so, I do not believe that Caylee's body would have been treated carelessly, as in being burned with gas. I don't think George or Cindy could bear to damage their granddaughter's little corpse.

Chloroform used to be used in embalming fluid (apparently still is somewhat, but is considered dangerous and archaic).

With Cindy's medical background, could she have embalmed Caylee's body using chloroform?

If so, they have put that little body someplace very special to them, so she would always be "near"--and I would prefer this option because it means Caylee WILL be found, eventually, IMO.

I had to dissect a fetal pig in biology in college, and it seems to me the fluid the pig was in also contained chloroform, to help preserve the body of the pig. Does anybody else remember the jarred fetal pigs? and if chloroform was part of the fluid?


:confused:

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by pollyw
Does anyone else think that Casey burned little Caylee and scattered the ashes? Ever since I heard about the gasoline cans, that's what I have felt. [/*]

She may have tried. Remember when that marine tried to burn Maria Lauterbach.. Not so easy, I don't think. You need to have really high temps.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]Congrates Trich :rose:

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by Dunnie
30 day script for what? Is there a link? Sorry for being "uninformed".

To those that will attack me for not being up-to-date. JMO. [/*]

Just another made up story by Casey to send everyone running around. IMO No attack, it's hard to catch up at times because this board moves so fast.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

I don't think so......there are some on here that think they were definitely involved! (Not me.)

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]


How? What proof do we have who caused the death of Caylee?
The whole family doesn't act normal.

[summer4meplz]

can someone tell me how to do a poll? tia

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by AJandTam


She may have tried. Remember when that marine tried to burn Maria Lauterbach.. Not so easy, I don't think. You need to have really high temps. [/*]

I was going to say that as well, Tam. (Hi! :seeya: ). Burning a body AIN'T easy.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

100% agree

[day2day]

ok..I have read her interview..and i am just so confused
She swears she left Caylee with Zanny -we know that is a nickname for Xanax. She was supposed to follow a thirty day script. And she dropped her off at an apartment.

I believe that she gave caylee xanax. i also believe that she dropped her little body off in a dumpster at an apartment complex. (I do not know how the chloroform got there..unless they tried to clean the car)..

Jmo...i

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Dunnie
I remember that one, and that poor unborn baby's outstretched hand towards the sky. We caught that murderer down in Mexico. You can run, but you cannot hide.

:rose: [/*]

Yep, we got him. He's still in the mexican jail though, isn't he?

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

I dont at all believe the GP's were invovled in Caylee's death or disposing of her body. I believe they truely loved that baby. Cindy especially!! Unfortunately after the fact, may be a different story. I do believe they have been trying to hinder the investigation in order to save Casey.

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


O/T, but ... curious why you think it's okay for others to find links for you, because you don't want to be bothered yourself?

You keep challenging things that are part of sworn statements and other official documents, videos, news articles, etc.

Not sure how you can keep challenging everything when you aren't willing to come up to speed on the case? It's sort of disruptive ... at least to me.

Okay, back to regular programming. :o [/*]

Oh for heaven's sake, some of us don't have all day to keep up with this board. What's your problem??? :shrug: You should mute her if it bothers you that much.

[greylover]

Originally posted by Dunnie
30 day script for what? Is there a link? Sorry for being "uninformed".

To those that will attack me for not being up-to-date. JMO. [/*]

Hi Dunnie! I'm sure there is a link somewhere? I can try to find it but basically the "new" story out there is that she handed Caylee over to Zanny and Zanny's sister "Samantha" at whatever park it is (J. Blanchard maybe?) and one of them ran off and put Caylee in their 2008 Silver Ford Focus while the other one tackled and held down Casey. Then they handed her a "script" of how she was to act for the next 30 days in case the police were involved, or they would harm Caylee.

So, because Casey is mother of the year, she followed that "script" and that is why she never told anyone the Zanny/Samantha/park/script story until now.........

Of course, one would wonder where she put the "script."

Rob Dick told that story last nite on Geraldo (and I've also heard it elsewhere).

jmo

[hamebone]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]


CONGRATULATIONS!

I had a new Grandson born 9/3/08

This is my 2nd one...you are in store for alot of love and good times!..you get to spoil them and send them home...thats the best part.

:D

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by greylover


Hi Dunnie! I'm sure there is a link somewhere? I can try to find it but basically the "new" story out there is that she handed Caylee over to Zanny and Zanny's sister "Samantha" at whatever park it is (J. Blanchard maybe?) and one of them ran off and put Caylee in their 2008 Silver Ford Focus while the other one tackled and held down Casey. Then they handed her a "script" of how she was to act for the next 30 days in case the police were involved, or they would harm Caylee.

So, because Casey is mother of the year, she followed that "script" and that is why she never told anyone the Zanny/Samantha/park/script story until now.........

Of course, one would wonder where she put the "script."

Rob Dick told that story last nite on Geraldo (and I've also heard it elsewhere).

jmo [/*]

Do we know what Caylee called Cindy and George?

[101Spots]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

I'm 97% sure they are not involved. However, with this family I'm leaving the door open to that possibility. Just a crack open. A teeny weeny crack, barely enough for a puff of smoke.........

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by greylover


Hi Dunnie! I'm sure there is a link somewhere? I can try to find it but basically the "new" story out there is that she handed Caylee over to Zanny and Zanny's sister "Samantha" at whatever park it is (J. Blanchard maybe?) and one of them ran off and put Caylee in their 2008 Silver Ford Focus while the other one tackled and held down Casey. Then they handed her a "script" of how she was to act for the next 30 days in case the police were involved, or they would harm Caylee.

So, because Casey is mother of the year, she followed that "script" and that is why she never told anyone the Zanny/Samantha/park/script story until now.........

Of course, one would wonder where she put the "script."

Rob Dick told that story last nite on Geraldo (and I've also heard it elsewhere).

jmo [/*]

I think the 'script' said to memorize this and on the 24th of June? break into your Dad's shed. Steal gas. And burn this 'script. :D

[nc1948]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

Dunnie, I do not think either GP was involed with the death of Caylee. BUT, I do believe that Cindy helped dispose(I hate that word) of the body. I think the day George lost it is the day he realized what had happened. No evidence to support my theory. Just listening to cindy first 911 call about reporting her missing car but no reporting her missing grandchild. This is just my feelings after listening to all Cindy lies and then lies to explain the lies, and then lies to change the lies. I could be wrong and hope I am. As a grandmother I do sincerely hope I am wrong.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


O/T, but ... curious why you think it's okay for others to find links for you, because you don't want to be bothered yourself?

You keep challenging things that are part of sworn statements and other official documents, videos, news articles, etc.

Not sure how you can keep challenging everything when you aren't willing to come up to speed on the case? It's sort of disruptive ... at least to me.

Okay, back to regular programming. :o [/*]

It gets like that sometimes. You have to ask questions to sort out what everyone is talking about then you can go find the link or our wonderful friend Lynn Gweeney helps us out. Sometimes a case just moves so fast and some of us are limited on time so we have to cheat alittle and just ask. No harm imho.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by hamebone



CONGRATULATIONS!

I had a new Grandson born 9/3/08

This is my 2nd one...you are in store for alot of love and good times!..you get to spoil them and send them home...thats the best part.

:D [/*]CONGRATES :rose:

[nana6]

Originally posted by crimeq
Someone on the morning thread suggested that Cindy, George and Casey had all been involved in Caylee's disappearance from Day One, and have been hanging together in their story ever since.

The postulation was made that the "fighting" heard by neighbors at the Anthony home may not have been fighting, but screaming--perhaps coming upon a dead Caylee, however that happened.

If so, I do not believe that Caylee's body would have been treated carelessly, as in being burned with gas. I don't think George or Cindy could bear to damage their granddaughter's little corpse.

Chloroform used to be used in embalming fluid (apparently still is somewhat, but is considered dangerous and archaic).

With Cindy's medical background, could she have embalmed Caylee's body using chloroform? I believe that if there was an acident when neighbors heard fighting or screaming, they (Anthonys) would have alled 911

If so, they have put that little body someplace very special to them, so she would always be "near"--and I would prefer this option because it means Caylee WILL be found, eventually, IMO.

I had to dissect a fetal pig in biology in college, and it seems to me the fluid the pig was in also contained chloroform, to help preserve the body of the pig. Does anybody else remember the jarred fetal pigs? and if chloroform was part of the fluid?


:confused: [/*]

[OneUp]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]I can agree that I don't FEEL that they harmed her...and that the evidence does not suggest to me that they had a hand in her demise ( I am convinced that she is deceased, unfortunately).
But I do have to allow that however unlikely, Cindy was the last person documented by anyone outside the family to have been with Caylee. I don't think she WAS the last with her, but AFAIK, no one can prove she was not. Therefore, the possibility remains that Caylee may have been harmed in an accident, etc. while in the care of someone other than Casey herself.
I think that is the thing that is holding back the charges...proving that casey alone had the opportunity to harm/dispose of Caylee For me and for a court of law I think there is just enough possiblity to muddy the waters. IMO, they need proof of a deceased Caylee being in Caseys "care"...they can (IMO) prove she died, and she was in that yard and trunk, but w/o a witness or contamination on Casey's clothing, shoes, etc...Something tying her directly to a dead child...they cannot prove that She and only she could have been responsible for those things.
I believe Casey murdered Caylee, I believe her family knows it, and I believe LE does too. The law cannot operate on belief though.
JMO.

[greylover]

Originally posted by OneUp
I can see why this is bugging you...just like the rest of us, you have common sense and can plainly see that the pieces don't add up. These people (Casey, etc.) just think they can throw anything out there and it will be taken at face value...that people will accept it and move on. I don't think any of them ever expected that they needed an accurate story that would stand up to scrutiny. Casey has certainly never needed to do so in the past.
JMO. [/*]

It just seems like the obvious question in my common sense mind....:D

jmo

[Carol25]

Seems I am the only one that doesn't know...what's a mule? (Other than an animal, wise guys!)

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Whose family does? Is your family normal? What is normal? Mine surely isn't, but I don't have a missing grand child either.

This is the kind of defense the defense will put on. This child is gone, Casey will never be charged, and Caylee deserved better than that.

Personally, I think the whole family should be persecuted and prosecuted for letting something happen to that child, but that's not the way our laws work.

JMO. [/*]

The actions we have seen are not normal for lack of a better word. I also think the whole bunch of them should be prosecuted for what has happened. The only thing that can happen for Caylee at this point is justice. She gets justice when the person that caused her death is convicted. Convict the wrong one and Caylee hasn't received justice.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by chrissybot


I dont at all believe the GP's were invovled in Caylee's death or disposing of her body. I believe they truely loved that baby. Cindy especially!! Unfortunately after the fact, may be a different story. I do believe they have been trying to hinder the investigation in order to save Casey. [/*]

ITA - You can hear Cindy in that 911 call. She was panicked and scared. She really thought that someone kidnapped her GD.

It's been coverup mode ever since they found out that Casey wasn't working and the nanny doesn't exist.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by crimeq
Someone on the morning thread suggested that Cindy, George and Casey had all been involved in Caylee's disappearance from Day One, and have been hanging together in their story ever since.

The postulation was made that the "fighting" heard by neighbors at the Anthony home may not have been fighting, but screaming--perhaps coming upon a dead Caylee, however that happened.

If so, I do not believe that Caylee's body would have been treated carelessly, as in being burned with gas. I don't think George or Cindy could bear to damage their granddaughter's little corpse.

Chloroform used to be used in embalming fluid (apparently still is somewhat, but is considered dangerous and archaic).

With Cindy's medical background, could she have embalmed Caylee's body using chloroform?

If so, they have put that little body someplace very special to them, so she would always be "near"--and I would prefer this option because it means Caylee WILL be found, eventually, IMO.

I had to dissect a fetal pig in biology in college, and it seems to me the fluid the pig was in also contained chloroform, to help preserve the body of the pig. Does anybody else remember the jarred fetal pigs? and if chloroform was part of the fluid?


:confused: [/*]

Are you getting formeldyhyde confused with chloroform?

[day2day]

Originally posted by Carol25
Seems I am the only one that doesn't know...what's a mule? (Other than an animal, wise guys!) [/*]

mule or courier is someone who smuggles something with him or her (as opposed to sending by mail, etc.) across a national border, including smuggling into and out of an international plane, especially a small amount, transported for a smuggling organization. The organizers employ mules to reduce the risk of getting caught themselves, while often profiting most. The mule typically gets paid an amount which is small compared with the profit, but large for somebody with little money, so that it seems to him or her an easy way to make money.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_mule

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

i'm changing my 100% to 95% just in case there was an accident....i'm mainly doubting that because cindy and george would have immediately called 911 imo..

is it commonly known as fact that george was at home on father's day?

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Barefooted


someone who moves drugs from one location to another. JMO [/*]
Thank you! Now it makes sense!

[msjoni]

Originally posted by Dunnie
This should be interesting. Can't wait to see the responses. [/*]

CiCi and GiGi, this was said early on by Cindy......

[OneUp]

Originally posted by greylover


It just seems like the obvious question in my common sense mind....:D

jmo [/*]You're right, it is a common sense question, and a good one. I don't think logic is something put to use much in the Anthony family.
JMO.

[nana6]

Originally posted by nana6
[/*] Let me try again to post. If neighbors heard screaming that night I think if the Anthonys came upon Caylee in an accident at the house they would have called 911 Why wouldn't they? No, I think Caysey was to blame for whatever happened to our precious Caylee- and I call her ours now, your and mine on this board,:rose:

[nc1948]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


ITA - You can hear Cindy in that 911 call. She was panicked and scared. She really thought that someone kidnapped her GD.

It's been coverup mode ever since they found out that Casey wasn't working and the nanny doesn't exist. [/*]

Question. When Cindy made the first 911 call she had found her daughter who had misplaced her Grandaughter. Why then did she call about the car and not Caylee? This really bugs me. I would have called about my Grandchild and worried about the car later. Cindy did not get upset until the 3rd 911 call. I think my info is correct. If not please tell me. IMHO

[Bluegal]

Originally posted by greylover


Hi Dunnie! I'm sure there is a link somewhere? I can try to find it but basically the "new" story out there is that she handed Caylee over to Zanny and Zanny's sister "Samantha" at whatever park it is (J. Blanchard maybe?) and one of them ran off and put Caylee in their 2008 Silver Ford Focus while the other one tackled and held down Casey. Then they handed her a "script" of how she was to act for the next 30 days in case the police were involved, or they would harm Caylee.

So, because Casey is mother of the year, she followed that "script" and that is why she never told anyone the Zanny/Samantha/park/script story until now.........

Of course, one would wonder where she put the "script."

Rob Dick told that story last nite on Geraldo (and I've also heard it elsewhere).

jmo [/*]


So, she handed Caylee off to Zanny & Sammy and in turn they handed her a 'script'.

Oh yeah, that makes sense doesn't it? She just willingly handed her child over. Good grief - the apartment story was more believable than THAT!

[hamebone]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


ITA - You can hear Cindy in that 911 call. She was panicked and scared. She really thought that someone kidnapped her GD.

It's been coverup mode ever since they found out that Casey wasn't working and the nanny doesn't exist. [/*]

I agree, I dont think Cindy had anything but love for Caylee.

I do wonder if she took over the mother role and caused Casey to feel more of a sister to her own child.

I think now Cindy has circled the wagons around Casey...out of guilt maybe..

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


i'm changing my 100% to 95% just in case there was an accident....i'm mainly doubting that because cindy and george would have immediately called 911 imo..

is it commonly known as fact that george was at home on father's day? [/*]


It's been asked before and I don't think we know.

[forensicsgal]

hmmm, all's quiet at the Anthony home, must be on a family picnic.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by day2day




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_mule [/*]
Thank you, Day2day! Figured it had something to do with drugs, like selling or something. Certainly didn't think you could find slang terms like that on wiki!

[greylover]

Put me down for "NO" the GP's weren't involved.

I believe they are guilty of being blind to the obvious (at least to me that is), but nothing more than that.

It is so hard to get a handle on the way that they think. They definitely are closing ranks and getting defensive.

I'm afraid we will never really know the dynamic of the family so it's hard to judge them in my opinion, having never known them personally.

jmo

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I think the 'script' said to memorize this and on the 24th of June? break into your Dad's shed. Steal gas. And burn this 'script. :D [/*]

lol that's very good....

now...about that poll...anyone?

[crimeq]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Are you getting formeldyhyde confused with chloroform? [/*]

Yes, I am re: the pickled fetal pigs, but not chloroform used in embalming fluid.

Thanks!

[chrissybot]

Look, I've said this before, I don't live in fantasyland, nor in lala land, & I certainly don't have a wild enough imagination to believe what the Anthonys want the pulic to believe. Kidnappings, scripts, another dead body in car, nanny zanny, blah blah blah. I choose to believe the most obvious & simple conclusion that Casey murdered her child. -JMO,IMO...

[martha]

Originally posted by Barefooted


someone who moves drugs from one location to another. JMO [/*]THANK YOU FOR ASKING I was wondering that too. I am a small town countyr girl and don;t know much.:rose:

[greylover]

Originally posted by Bluegal



So, she handed Caylee off to Zanny & Sammy and in turn they handed her a 'script'.

Oh yeah, that makes sense doesn't it? She just willingly handed her child over. Good grief - the apartment story was more believable than THAT! [/*]

Exactly my first point - if she was given the 30 day script to follow, but 31 days had passed, then why did she have to continue to tell the script story??

IMO I have believed from the start that she is telling the Zanny stories in case they find Caylee's body, she can still say that Zanny did it.......

jmo

[crimeq]

Originally posted by ratched


Formaldehyde. [/*]

Thanks ;) Regina cleared that up already. I knew someone would remember.

Formaldehyde for the fetal pig -- but it is chloroform that was (and sometimes still is, according to google) used to embalm.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by greylover
Put me down for "NO" the GP's weren't involved.

I believe they are guilty of being blind to the obvious (at least to me that is), but nothing more than that.

It is so hard to get a handle on the way that they think. They definitely are closing ranks and getting defensive.

I'm afraid we will never really know the dynamic of the family so it's hard to judge them in my opinion, having never known them personally.

jmo [/*]
I don't believe they were involved with the death because Casey would have sung like a bird to get the house.

But I do think they were involved in the coverup. How much will have to be determined.

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


And some of us don't have time to update posters who don't have time to update themselves.

Thanks for the 'mute' suggestion though. [/*]

You're very welcome.:seeya:

[Carol25]

Originally posted by MicheleL
:seeya:

Good afternoon .. [/*]
Hi!:seeya:

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by nc1948


Question. When Cindy made the first 911 call she had found her daughter who had misplaced her Grandaughter. Why then did she call about the car and not Caylee? This really bugs me. I would have called about my Grandchild and worried about the car later. Cindy did not get upset until the 3rd 911 call. I think my info is correct. If not please tell me. IMHO [/*]

IMO - She was trying to manipulate Casey into telling her where Caylee was. In her mind, Casey was just playing hardball with her and was being stuborn. The car wasn't even stolen. Casey had permission to use it. So, she corners Casey, says thats enough. She's calling to report the car and money stolen.

There convo was recorded while Cindy was being transfered to the proper LE through 911. She is telling her that if she, Casey, wants it this way, they'll do it. Remarks are made about getting a court paper. {Threatning custody on her}

Supposedly, just prior to the 3rd call, Casey finally said that Caylee was kidnapped by the nanny.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Great post! Let's wait to see all the evidence. If LE/Prosecution has it, they will charge Casey. If they don't, she gets to walk in about 20 years.

:seeya: [/*]

I've asked before and never get an answer (not you, just anyone on the board). Why is everyone so sure Casey did this. Is it her lack of morals, she the mother so it's her fault, no emotions or what. I really want to know cause I just don't see it as a for sure on it being her. Cindy is the only one that can be proven to be the last one with Caylee. I'm not saying Casey couldn't have done it, I just don't see why most are so sure it's her. I lean towards it being Cindy but I realize it could be either of them.

[101Spots]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I think the 'script' said to memorize this and on the 24th of June? break into your Dad's shed. Steal gas. And burn this 'script. :D [/*]

I get the feeling that casey has watched entirely too many movies. "Burn this script" indeed!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by crimeq


Yes, I am re: the pickled fetal pigs, but not chloroform used in embalming fluid.

Thanks! [/*]

......and not to be confused with pickled pigs feet, that would be vinegar and spices.........patooey!! :tongue:

[nc1948]

Originally posted by Dunnie
That I agree with. The grand parents should be charged with obstruction of justice. However, they had no idea what they were dealing with and I say SHAME ON THEM for not taking better care of Caylee. Casey sure wasn't capable. Now look at the results.

JMO. [/*]

Cindy saw nothing wrong with the way Casey took care of Caylee, she said she is Mother of the Year.

[Carol25]

Some people may have been away from the board for a variety of reasons. It just takes a minute to update rather than the person going through threads and threads of discussion. I think it would just be a courtesy.

[forpsystudent]

Curious Coyote:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?postid=12075245#post12075245

[nc1948]

Shot of someones rear end on web cam

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by Bluegal



So, she handed Caylee off to Zanny & Sammy and in turn they handed her a 'script'.

Oh yeah, that makes sense doesn't it? She just willingly handed her child over. Good grief - the apartment story was more believable than THAT! [/*]

LOL, it sure was...

[Bluegal]

The Father's Day fight...

Of course, this is just my opinion -
Cindy had Caylee that day visiting GP at the assisted living place (pictures to prove that).

Once she arrived back home, she wanted Casey to come pick up Caylee. My impression is that Cindy and George have raised Caylee far more than Casey. I feel they've probably been riding Casey pretty hard about taking more responsibility in Caylee's life.

Maybe Casey asked her mom to keep Caylee that night (Father's Day) and Cindy told her no - that she needed to come pick her up. Hence, the big fight - Casey wanting to be free of responsibility & Cindy pushing her to grow up and be the mom Caylee needed.

It is also my opinion that Cindy put so much pressure on Casey to be the type of mom that Caylee needed - that Casey would rather rot in prison than to admit that something happened to Caylee due to the lack of Casey's responsibility.


One more thing... I'm just going to throw this out there --- but I've heard that sometimes people lace marijuana with chloroform... haven't researched it so ----don't shoot me.... but we know that Casey's was a stoner.

[nana6]

Originally posted by Dunnie
That I agree with. The grand parents should be charged with obstruction of justice. However, they had no idea what they were dealing with and I say SHAME ON THEM for not taking better care of Caylee. Casey sure wasn't capable. Now look at the results.

JMO. [/*] Dunnie, ItA with you on this point. Shame on them. This little girl lived with them all of her short life and then all of a sudden to not see her for weeks just does not make any sense. I do not care what the he-- Casey gave them as an excuse. My 6 grandchildren live near us. We see them almost daily and believe you me, if I went for 1 week and did not see a sign of them I would be im my daughters faces and that goes for my hubby too. Not seeing Caylee for that llong was not normal for that family. Maybe for other families but not for theirs.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Carol25

I don't believe they were involved with the death because Casey would have sung like a bird to get the house.

But I do think they were involved in the coverup. How much will have to be determined. [/*]

I think the Anthony's were originally thinking that Casey was just playing games w/them, and they'd had enough of it. I think once they realized what was going on, they had a Oh Crud moment, and that's when the backpeddling began. Only it was too late, the ball had got rolling w/LE. Sadly, I think thier biggest problem now is that they don't want to face the reality of what was going on w/ Casey and thier own failures w/her. I think they've decided that it's better to have just lost the granddaughter than the granddaughter and the daughter. I also suspect there are some family skeletons waiting to come out of the closet.

All my own speculations.

[greylover]

Originally posted by 101Spots


I get the feeling that casey has watched entirely too many movies. "Burn this script" indeed! [/*]

Perhaps she watched too much Mission Impossible.....??

jmo

[Shellberry]

Originally posted by trich
my granddaughter was born 9/5/08 and is beautiful!!!



CONGRATULATIONS!


If I had known grandchildren were so much fun I would have had them first.....:) [/*]

haha

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rose: caylee


:rose: new baby

[crimeq]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


......and not to be confused with pickled pigs feet, that would be vinegar and spices.........patooey!! :tongue: [/*]

LOL, I'd never get anything confused with pickled pigs feet because I'd never go near pickled pigs feet! Thx.

[martha]

Originally posted by Carol25
Some people may have been away from the board for a variety of reasons. It just takes a minute to update rather than the person going through threads and threads of discussion. I think it would just be a courtesy. [/*] You or so right carol25 it is so very nice when someone will help another poster to keep up. I read all I can but I do get way behind.:rose:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by msjoni


CiCi and GiGi, this was said early on by Cindy...... [/*]

in one of the videos from the 20/20 show I heard Cindy say 'come to grammy'

[Chillin]

Originally posted by pollyw
Does anyone else think that Casey burned little Caylee and scattered the ashes? Ever since I heard about the gasoline cans, that's what I have felt. [/*]

NO..wouldnt get hot enuff for that.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by 0000dori


I think they are involved in the cover up. [/*]

i agree...they are not involved in the death, but are involved in the coverup....possibly even the disposal of the poor little baby,..

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


lol that's very good....

now...about that poll...anyone? [/*]

What poll, Summer?:seeya:

[Takotna]

Originally posted by OneUp

gently snipped

I do think it very likely that there is a blanket or MAYBE a rug missing in connection with Caylee, probably something from her own room. Just based upon past cases and recurring criminal behavior, that would be a typical way to transport a deceased person. Wrapping a body will limit forensic trasfer, somewhat "disguise" what is being transported, and shield the bearer from looking right at the outcome of their deed.
JMO.


__________________
"Eyes that do not cry, do not see" -Swedish proverb- [/*]

I agree -
It would be hard for LE to know exactly what was missing since they didn't know it was there in the first place. (No body in the family is going to tell them either!MO)

This is why I think there was more to Casey deleting all the pictures. IMO - she could have deleted several pix that had a particular rug or blanket in them - then, she could have deleted many more so it didn't look like the rug/blanket pix were deleted for a purpose?

Does this make any sense - I don't think I explained it very well...:shrug:

AllMO

[Ckrdpast]

can anyone confirm this--i've checked the website and didnt see anything

Pinetree
Senior Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 3108
Channel 13, Orlando is reporting that the search has been called off.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by AJandTam


I think the Anthony's were originally thinking that Casey was just playing games w/them, and they'd had enough of it. I think once they realized what was going on, they had a Oh Crud moment, and that's when the backpeddling began. Only it was too late, the ball had got rolling w/LE. Sadly, I think thier biggest problem now is that they don't want to face the reality of what was going on w/ Casey and thier own failures w/her. I think they've decided that it's better to have just lost the granddaughter than the granddaughter and the daughter. I also suspect there are some family skeletons waiting to come out of the closet.

All my own speculations. [/*]

Hey Tam! I suspect their closets are pretty full, which is why all the sheds are so interesting to me.:D we saw into one shed, but there are at least two others.

[beemeup]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Why doesn't the family go some place else for the weekend vigil? Are they out of their minds? I think the answer would be yes. [/*]

No kidding. And how many of us would have an outpouring from the beginning from family and friends. Even before the unsettling family remarks. I think the fact this family has no support speaks volumes. If i was under that same roof i would be a crazy person. If i had no involvement i am sure there would be a point i would snap at Casey Mach 90. At the very least you would think they could just snap that lid on her laptop down on her digits?? Pull out the toothbrush and have her scrubbing between all the household tiles 24/7 until she broke?????

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
can anyone confirm this--i've checked the website and didnt see anything

Pinetree
Senior Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 3108
Channel 13, Orlando is reporting that the search has been called off. [/*]

I believe that has to do with the wet areas. I'm not sure. I read something about that.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
can anyone confirm this--i've checked the website and didnt see anything

Pinetree
Senior Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 3108
Channel 13, Orlando is reporting that the search has been called off. [/*]

Is that an older post? From when Tim was talking about calling it off. Until LE stepped in and asked him to stay.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
can anyone confirm this--i've checked the website and didnt see anything

Pinetree
Senior Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 3108
Channel 13, Orlando is reporting that the search has been called off. [/*]

holy toledo! will try to find something.


and Ckrdpast, I'm wide awake:D

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Will it stand up in a court of law though? I think that's what a lot of us are debating. Your opinion might not wash with 12 jurors.

JMO. [/*]
IMO-not unless they can say with 100% certainty that casey did indeed kill her child & show 100% proof. Say for example, those pants washed that Casey had on. If they had any decomp evidence on them, I believe they may be used towards Casey being connected with Caylee's death.-JMO & speculating of course.. I do understand your valid points Dunnie.

[dreamtime]

Originally posted by GrannyB


I've asked before and never get an answer (not you, just anyone on the board). Why is everyone so sure Casey did this. Is it her lack of morals, she the mother so it's her fault, no emotions or what. I really want to know cause I just don't see it as a for sure on it being her. Cindy is the only one that can be proven to be the last one with Caylee. I'm not saying Casey couldn't have done it, I just don't see why most are so sure it's her. I lean towards it being Cindy but I realize it could be either of them. [/*]
================================

I think it is the culmination of information.
Casey last with Caylee. No one saw Caylee after that.
Casey did not 'look' for Caylee.
Casey partied. Casey emailed friends to come to Fusian to party.
Casey hung out with friends.
Casey wrote 'that ' poem.
Casey lied. Casey stole.
Casey did not return home til Cindy found her.
Car abandoned. Car had smell of death.
Cadaver dogs find smell in back yard and car trunk.
Formaldahyde smell in trunk.

Cindy's 911 call was very real to me. She was terrified of her grand daughter being missing and the ' smell of a dead body in the damn car.'

[Carol25]

Originally posted by GrannyB


I've asked before and never get an answer (not you, just anyone on the board). Why is everyone so sure Casey did this. Is it her lack of morals, she the mother so it's her fault, no emotions or what. I really want to know cause I just don't see it as a for sure on it being her. Cindy is the only one that can be proven to be the last one with Caylee. I'm not saying Casey couldn't have done it, I just don't see why most are so sure it's her. I lean towards it being Cindy but I realize it could be either of them. [/*]
Well, Granny, just looking at the fact that she waited 30 days to inform anyone that her daughter was missing and partied heavy during these times is pretty suspicious.

The cadaver dogs hitting on her car and her abandoning it would be rather suspicious as well.

Then perhaps the lying to police, laughing during interrogations just doesn't hit me as a grieving mother looking for her daughter.

Knowing that she has a defintie moral problem with defrauding checks, even of her grandmother and friends doesn't enlighten me as her being a very good person.

The forensics showing that a dead body was in her car and remembering she abandoned it without contacting her parents there was a problem with it, is suspicious.


Maybe it's just me.

[hamebone]

Originally posted by nc1948


Cindy saw nothing wrong with the way Casey took care of Caylee, she said she is Mother of the Year. [/*]

Cindy said that...Casey is protecting Caylee by not telling LE what she knows and when they find Caylee... mothers all over will give her the mother of the year award...She also said Casey will go to prison for the rest of her life if that is what it takes to protect Caylee....Crazy huh?


This girl wouldnt even get off her rear and get a job and provide for her child...shes done no more than birth Caylee...she has never been a mother...IMO

[Chillin]

I believe that has to do with the wet areas. Not the whole search.

[crimeq]

Originally posted by ratched


IIRC chloroform has no use in embalming. Not only does it not have preservation properties, that I know of, but the funeral home workers, and any people around the body, family, visitors, etc. would be at very high risk of exposure. IMOo [/*]

It had an extensive use in embalming in the past and is still used somewhat today, though unadvisedly so. This is one google reference:

http://www.champion-newera.com/CHAMP.PDFS/encyclo648.pdf

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by forpsystudent
Curious Coyote:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?postid=12075245#post12075245 [/*]

Thanks for catching my question - so far behind.

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Is that an older post? From when Tim was talking about calling it off. Until LE stepped in and asked him to stay. [/*]


was just posted on the searcher thread

[kitty1182]

Who is that standing in front of the cam? LOL

[Shellberry]

Originally posted by martha
You or so right carol25 it is so very nice when someone will help another poster to keep up. I read all I can but I do get way behind.:rose: [/*]
definately!


Im getting a duppa shot on my live cam too.
:rolleyes:

just getting in today.

everything the same I suppose?
I wonder if tomorrow will bring something.
I need to go see if any searchers posted!!



imo/jmo

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


What poll, Summer?:seeya: [/*]

oh, never mind lol.... in the grand scheme of things, it seems very petty....but i was going to post a poll on that horrible puke emoticon...it might just be me...but honestly, i scroll real fast when i see that little blue face before it heaves...it just grosses me out so bad....i think keeping the blue face would be great...but deleting the puke would be great too...

anyway, i tried to make a poll and it just wasn't going there for me, so it's petty, and i will just continue to scroll by real fast...i love all the other little pictures....the embarrassed face could be a whole lot redder in the cheeks...imo.. it didn't do me justice the day i said rick is cindy's sister...:D

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by Boxer


holy toledo! will try to find something.


and Ckrdpast, I'm wide awake:D [/*]

pm box check the pm

[Carol25]

Originally posted by chrissybot

IMO-not unless they can say with 100% certainty that casey did indeed kill her child & show 100% proof. Say for example, those pants washed that Casey had on. If they had any decomp evidence on them, I believe they may be used towards Casey being connected with Caylee's death.-JMO & speculating of course.. I do understand your valid points Dunnie. [/*]
You do have to remember that she has had two people cleaning up after during this whole thing. It may take a little longer due to the gp's.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Shellberry

definately!


Im getting a duppa shot on my live cam too.
:rolleyes:

just getting in today.

everything the same I suppose?
I wonder if tomorrow will bring something.
I need to go see if any searchers posted!!



imo/jmo [/*]

i'm wondering if tonight will be the clash between the protestors and the prayer vigil....i hope not....but you never know...tensions are at breaking level for most of the players ....imo

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
can anyone confirm this--i've checked the website and didnt see anything

Pinetree
Senior Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location:
Posts: 3108
Channel 13, Orlando is reporting that the search has been called off. [/*]

Dunno, I am looking for a scoop about a news conferance.

maybe rumor mill??

Maybe the huricane coming, they might take a few days off??

I pray for it to be news, tho.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Boxer


Hey Tam! I suspect their closets are pretty full, which is why all the sheds are so interesting to me.:D we saw into one shed, but there are at least two others. [/*]

Hi Boxer.

Hmmmmmmmm I don't know much about the sheds but I do think that something bizzare was going on w/that family for a long time. Dunno what, just my instincts talking.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by ratched


I don't know but if it were a guy we'd know what religion he is.:biggrin: [/*]

Looks like a girl in shorts with a tat on her thigh:confused:

[Carol25]

Originally posted by kitty1182
Who is that standing in front of the cam? LOL [/*]
It's not a guy.:cool:

[nana6]

Originally posted by Dunnie
My grand daughter doesn't live with us. But if we don't hear that they are snug in their beds each night, we "might" go over. I've been called controlling and a lot of other bad names by people here, but when a child's welfare is at stake, you do what you have to do. I would have called 911 in 12 hours if I don't know where my grand child is.

JMO. [/*] Right Dunnie, here too. We are so close with our girls and their families that we do pretty much know where they are everyday. And not because we are into their lives too much. They want it this way. We know our girls just like G and C know Casey. They did not trust her for a minute that is why they ran and dug up in their backyard. Now, you and I would not ever be worried that our children did anything to our grandchildren., C and G had another kind of life going on with Casey. They should never ever have let this go on for a month without seeing Caylee for themselves. As I said, it was not normal for them to be away from that baby like this. IMO

[Spring]

This nut posing for the camera is making me crazee!

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Dunnie
My grand daughter doesn't live with us. But if we don't hear that they are snug in their beds each night, we "might" go over. I've been called controlling and a lot of other bad names by people here, but when a child's welfare is at stake, you do what you have to do. I would have called 911 in 12 hours if I don't know where my grand child is.

JMO. [/*]

I have been discussing this case with my mother & I asked her what she would do if (God forbid) we were in such a situation. She told me she would turn on me in an instant if I did not produce her grandchild! I don't blame her at all!
Thats why I don't get the GP's telling so many lies & stories. They should want to know exactly where their grandbaby is.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by Spring
This nut posing for the camera is making me crazee! [/*]

Must not be a friend on the family, she has a ciggy in her hand..LOL

[MissouriGMom]

Originally posted by Spring
This nut posing for the camera is making me crazee! [/*]

Me too. Someone needs to tell her to move. Maybe Cindy will come out and push her away.

:eek:

Now we see a tummy view.

[purplepoints]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


IMO - She was trying to manipulate Casey into telling her where Caylee was. In her mind, Casey was just playing hardball with her and was being stuborn. The car wasn't even stolen. Casey had permission to use it. So, she corners Casey, says thats enough. She's calling to report the car and money stolen.

There convo was recorded while Cindy was being transfered to the proper LE through 911. She is telling her that if she, Casey, wants it this way, they'll do it. Remarks are made about getting a court paper. {Threatning custody on her}

Supposedly, just prior to the 3rd call, Casey finally said that Caylee was kidnapped by the nanny. [/*]

ITA I think she was threatening to involve the police to try to get Casey to tell the truth. I do not think that Cindy had any clue what happened to Caylee at this point.

But, threatening to get custody of Caylee shows that there had to have been some issues with Casey's parenting previous to this conversation. I don't think Cindy would threaten Casey with custody of Caylee just because Casey wasn't letting them see or talk to her. From personal experience IMO, I think Cindy was suspicious or flat out knew that Casey has a drug problem. I think that the drugs are why Casey was stealing from everyone.

[jmgos1]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Can we all agree Cindy and George were not involved in the death of Caylee? :shrug: [/*]

I just cann't agree, at least not yet. These people are sure trying to cta in my opinion.

[steffaroob4]

I think it is weather related:(

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast



was just posted on the searcher thread [/*]

Ah, okay.

:(

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Carol25

Well, Granny, just looking at the fact that she waited 30 days to inform anyone that her daughter was missing and partied heavy during these times is pretty suspicious.

The cadaver dogs hitting on her car and her abandoning it would be rather suspicious as well.

Then perhaps the lying to police, laughing during interrogations just doesn't hit me as a grieving mother looking for her daughter.

Knowing that she has a defintie moral problem with defrauding checks, even of her grandmother and friends doesn't enlighten me as her being a very good person.

The forensics showing that a dead body was in her car and remembering she abandoned it without contacting her parents there was a problem with it, is suspicious.


Maybe it's just me. [/*]

It must be just me too. And ofcourse, the gas cans and borrowed shovels ect...

[forpsystudent]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


Thanks for catching my question - so far behind. [/*]


YW.
Let me know if you need any more information--especially since the link I gave is to a post that IS a question. I would have answered your question directly and thoroughly instead of just posting the link but I didn't think my post would be noticed.

[agent99]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


And some of us don't have time to update posters who don't have time to update themselves.
[/*]

There's no wisdom greater than kindness. :)

Don't we all wish Cindy Anthony followed that motto? Sure would endear people to her side.

[nana6]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by summer4meplz


oh, never mind lol.... in the grand scheme of things, it seems very petty....but i was going to post a poll on that horrible puke emoticon...it might just be me...but honestly, i scroll real fast when i see that little blue face before it heaves...it just grosses me out so bad....i think keeping the blue face would be great...but deleting the puke would be great too...

anyway, i tried to make a poll and it just wasn't going there for me, so it's petty, and i will just continue to scroll by real fast...i love all the other little pictures....the embarrassed face could be a whole lot redder in the cheeks...imo.. it didn't do me justice the day i said rick is cindy's sister...:D [/*][/Q OMG i hate that puke thing too!!! I go by really fast when I see it coming. Let's get rid of it. What do ya'll think or should I just grow up a little and move on? o

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by dreamtime

================================

I think it is the culmination of information.
Casey last with Caylee. No one saw Caylee after that.
Casey did not 'look' for Caylee.
Casey partied. Casey emailed friends to come to Fusian to party.
Casey hung out with friends.
Casey wrote 'that ' poem.
Casey lied. Casey stole.
Casey did not return home til Cindy found her.
Car abandoned. Car had smell of death.
Cadaver dogs find smell in back yard and car trunk.
Formaldahyde smell in trunk.

Cindy's 911 call was very real to me. She was terrified of her grand daughter being missing and the ' smell of a dead body in the damn car.' [/*]


Cindy was last with Caylee that can be proven. No one that we know of has come forward and said they saw Casey and Caylee together after the 15th.

We don't have proof Casey knew Caylee was missing. For all we know she thought she was with the GP's

Casey wrote a poem. Cindy wrote on her myspace

Cindy lies

Cindy went and got Casey and Casey went with her. She didn't have to go. What does it prove.

Car belongs to Cindy and George. How do we know who had it last. Cindy also said she drives past that lot everyday. Cindy and George apparently cleaned out that car before LE got to the house.

Cindy and George live in the house with that backyard.

It wasn't Formaldahyde. It was chloroform

This is what a mean where's the proof of the guilty party?

[cuddlyrunner]

been gone for 12 hours would someone do me a quick update while I read through

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce
I wonder if the person standing in front of the webcam knows their heiney is there for thousands to see :shrug:

If it were mine they would need a panoramic lens. :D

Someone tell them to move LOL [/*]

If it were mine, you couldn't see the house:(

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Carol25

You do have to remember that she has had two people cleaning up after during this whole thing. It may take a little longer due to the gp's. [/*]

O trust me Carol, I do not forget those pants being washed & other cover-ups. IMO- impeding investigation

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by forensicsgal
hmmm, all's quiet at the Anthony home, must be on a family picnic. [/*]If I were that person wearing the denim shorts and t-shirt, I'd get my bellygut out of the frame. :o

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by cuddlyrunner
been gone for 12 hours would someone do me a quick update while I read through [/*]

Ya haven't missed anything, lol.

[steffaroob4]

http://www.cfnews13.com/

Search For Caylee Called Off

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

ORLANDO -- Texas EquuSearch has temporarily called off its ground search for missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search.

[martha]

someone must have told the girl to move ha. I don;t think anyone is at home there.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by nana6
[QUOTE]Originally posted by summer4meplz


oh, never mind lol.... in the grand scheme of things, it seems very petty....but i was going to post a poll on that horrible puke emoticon...it might just be me...but honestly, i scroll real fast when i see that little blue face before it heaves...it just grosses me out so bad....i think keeping the blue face would be great...but deleting the puke would be great too...

anyway, i tried to make a poll and it just wasn't going there for me, so it's petty, and i will just continue to scroll by real fast...i love all the other little pictures....the embarrassed face could be a whole lot redder in the cheeks...imo.. it didn't do me justice the day i said rick is cindy's sister...:D [/*][/Q OMG i hate that puke thing too!!! I go by really fast when I see it coming. Let's get rid of it. What do ya'll think or should I just grow up a little and move on? o [/*]

2 against the puke....thx nana...

[Tessie]

Originally posted by Boxer


holy toledo! will try to find something.


and Ckrdpast, I'm wide awake:D [/*]



http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Sunday afternoon, Texas EquuSearch announced it was suspending its search for Caylee Anthony. The organization cited environmental conditions and concerns as the reason for their decision.

[MissouriGMom]

Originally posted by Barefooted



anybody
please throw me the link to camera, I got rig of it last night because it wasn't working and was making me mad. thanks. [/*]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by forpsystudent



YW.
Let me know if you need any more information--especially since the link I gave is to a post that IS a question. I would have answered your question directly and thoroughly instead of just posting the link but I didn't think my post would be noticed. [/*]

IMO, appears technical specs are published to a targeted audience. Any evidence of peer review?

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
http://www.cfnews13.com/

Search For Caylee Called Off

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

ORLANDO -- Texas EquuSearch has temporarily called off its ground search for missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search. [/*]

TY steff. Thats a darn shame.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Tessie




http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Sunday afternoon, Texas EquuSearch announced it was suspending its search for Caylee Anthony. The organization cited environmental conditions and concerns as the reason for their decision. [/*]

What environmental concerns?? Anyone know?

[Chillin]

I'm about ready to cry..I'm ignored it seems.

I believe calling off the search has to do with the wet areas...waiting for them to dry out..and also the weather for the next few days..we have IKE the hurricane heading towards us. I'm sure TES doesnt want to be responsible for people driving miles to search and the weather getting bad.

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by martha
someone must have told the girl to move ha. I don;t think anyone is at home there. [/*]

martha...I saw your post on the other thread. FWIW, on my one and only click on the web cam link today, I saw one of the Anthony vehicles exit the garage. The one with the writing (George's? ) remained inside. :)

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by chrissybot


TY steff. Thats a darn shame. [/*]


Sure is..
Wonder who will be happy about this? I can think of 3 ..

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Show me a link that says Cindy was last with Caylee. Is that a typo on your part?

George watched Casey and Caylee leave the house together about 1:00 p;m. while he was watching his cooking show, unless they have changed their story.

(Sorry, snipped to address that point.) [/*]

technically speaking, cindy is the last person to have had Caylee....proof is the video tape...casey was not there...

everything after that is solely based on george and cindy's words...

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Tessie




http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Sunday afternoon, Texas EquuSearch announced it was suspending its search for Caylee Anthony. The organization cited environmental conditions and concerns as the reason for their decision. [/*]
I am SO disappointed! :(

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
http://www.cfnews13.com/

Search For Caylee Called Off

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

ORLANDO -- Texas EquuSearch has temporarily called off its ground search for missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search. [/*]


From the link:
On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search.


I don't get it, with such a great turn out to just shut it down. :confused:

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Chillin
I'm about ready to cry..I'm ignored it seems.

I believe calling off the search has to do with the wet areas...waiting for them to dry out..and also the weather for the next few days..we have IKE the hurricane heading towards us. I'm sure TES doesnt want to be responsible for people driving miles to search and the weather getting bad. [/*]

bump

[crimeq]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


2 against the puke....thx nana... [/*]

3 against, hate it ...

and sure do miss the rolling Santa :)

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Show me a link that says Cindy was last with Caylee. Is that a typo on your part?

George watched Casey and Caylee leave the house together about 1:00 p;m. while he was watching his cooking show, unless they have changed their story.

(Sorry, snipped to address that point.) [/*]


Bond hearing. Video on father's day verified by LE. George lies.
What he says is not proof.

I just tried to post to one of yours and it went to cyber heaven I guess. I have 11 grands and 4 great grands. 1 or 11 and my reaction to a missing one would be the same. Nothing like Cindy's reaction.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin


bump [/*]

you must be right. Thank you Chillin

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by kitty1182



Sure is..
Wonder who will be happy about this? I can think of 3 .. [/*]

Isn't that the truth Doc. :mad:

[Chillin]

Originally posted by AJandTam


you must be right. Thank you Chillin [/*]

TY..least one doesnt have me ignored.

Yes I am right.

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by Chillin
I'm about ready to cry..I'm ignored it seems.

I believe calling off the search has to do with the wet areas...waiting for them to dry out..and also the weather for the next few days..we have IKE the hurricane heading towards us. I'm sure TES doesnt want to be responsible for people driving miles to search and the weather getting bad. [/*]

I think you may be right. IIRC, Tim mentioned that they would have to stop once all the dry areas had been searched. No link, and not a direct quote, but words to that effect.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Isn't that the truth Doc. :mad: [/*]



:(

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn


I think you may be right. IIRC, Tim mentioned that they would have to stop once all the dry areas had been searched. No link, and not a direct quote, but words to that effect. [/*]

Yes he did. He says he wont put his searchers in harms way.

IKE is harms way.

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin


TY..least one doesnt have me ignored.

Yes I am right. [/*]

:D

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


On top of not telling anyone for thirty days, it was only AFTER being cornered and forced to say something. :( [/*]


Could be part of the "script"

[Chillin]

Originally posted by AJandTam


:D [/*]

Love ya Girl:rose:

[bama__angel]

I dont have you on ignore. Frankly, I agree with many of your thoughts and opinions. I just dont talk alot. And have been praying more lately.

[Takotna]

Originally posted by chrissybot


O trust me Carol, I do not forget those pants being washed & other cover-ups. IMO- impeding investigation [/*]


ITA - I've been focused on the chloroform business - if the pants didn't have chloroform residue, that would mean the chloroform was introduced into the trunk after the tow yard - IMO this would have answered many questions. Cindy fixed that, didnt she!

I wonder what else was taken from the car. :shrug:

AllMO:)

[Tessie]

Originally posted by Carol25

I am SO disappointed! :( [/*]


Tim goes on to say that Monday he is taking the search National?

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin


Love ya Girl:rose: [/*]

Love ya 2. :rose:

[Chillin]

Originally posted by bama__angel
I dont have you on ignore. Frankly, I agree with many of your thoughts and opinions. I just dont talk alot. And have been praying more lately. [/*]

TY for that. I pray alot to..and I also talk a whole bunch..some pray I shut up.:D

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by nana6
Dunnie, ItA with you on this point. Shame on them. This little girl lived with them all of her short life and then all of a sudden to not see her for weeks just does not make any sense. I do not care what the he-- Casey gave them as an excuse. My 6 grandchildren live near us. We see them almost daily and believe you me, if I went for 1 week and did not see a sign of them I would be im my daughters faces and that goes for my hubby too. Not seeing Caylee for that llong was not normal for that family. Maybe for other families but not for theirs. [/*]

Thank You.

Been thinking the same thing since this circus began.

Cindy was really hands on with little Caylee, heck they lived under the same roof. To not see the little girl for 31 days makes no sense to me.

I cannot believe Cindy would go that long without asking or looking for Caylee. The story goes she lost her daughter for 30 day's. Heck she found her pretty quick by reaching out to Casey's so called friends.

[hamebone]

Originally posted by Tessie




http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Sunday afternoon, Texas EquuSearch announced it was suspending its search for Caylee Anthony. The organization cited environmental conditions and concerns as the reason for their decision. [/*]

what are the environmental conditions they are talking about?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by AJandTam


What environmental concerns?? Anyone know? [/*]

Probably storms ........ TES was hoping for water levels to recede.
jmo

[Carol25]

Maybe just maybe they used environmental concerns as an excuse, but found something and tests found it to be Caylee??

They just want to keep it secret? Just wishful thinking? They can't get DNA back that quick, can they?

[jmgos1]

Originally posted by ratched


You missed my nursing school. We learned how to poison without leaving traces, shoot/stab people effectively, dismember bodies, and embalm.
:biggrin: [/*]:lol:

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by AJandTam


What environmental concerns?? Anyone know? [/*]

between the gators and the heat and the snakes and the bugs and the oncoming hurricane, to say nothing of the poor lady that had a heat stroke yesterday....i think everyone of them need a good rest.....

maybe they are done.....and they are maintaining their silence until the announcement is made....

that would be wonderful for everybody's sake....mo

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Chillin


TY for that. I pray alot to..and I also talk a whole bunch..some pray I shut up.:D [/*]
Not at all! :)

[Chillin]

Originally posted by hamebone


what are the environmental conditions they are talking about? [/*]

Standing water which allygators just love...and hurricane Ike is my guess.

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


between the gators and the heat and the snakes and the bugs and the oncoming hurricane, to say nothing of the poor lady that had a heat stroke yesterday....i think everyone of them need a good rest.....

maybe they are done.....and they are maintaining their silence until the announcement is made....

that would be wonderful for everybody's sake....mo [/*]


I wonder if they just up and called off the search today and sent everyone home ? If so that could indicate they found something.

[joint-heir]

Have been watching everyone's opinions for quite a while now. Just some of my thoughts. In reading the 400 pages, Casey kept saying, I've done some stupid things and my Mom will never forgive me.
On July 3, I believe Cindy's comments on web page were to try and get Casey to bring Caylee to see her or at least talk on the phone.(saying my Caylee is missing) meaning Casey had left home with her and keeping G'Ma away from her. That's why the comments, I've given you 30 days already. I believe she was threatening to try and get to see her grandchild. But also have to think, the car was already at their home and they knew it had been abandoned. Things are racing fast, she can't get it all together. Then after getting the LE involved, wants to believe Casey's lies. The alternative is too hard to accept. Then it all snowballs. And she rolls with the denial. So many things don't make sense. But with all the details Casey gives with her lies, sure takes me back to Scott Peterson and where he was "calling" from on New Years Eve.(meaning all the details he gave). I forget, is he on death row or just life imprisonment? Maybe they will someday get to contest with each other who can tell the wilder tales...
Appreciate all the news and info given on this site. I know if I miss it somewhere else, I'll catch it here..

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Chillin


bump [/*]

I remember hearing that Tim likes to search in conditions that are similar to those at the time the 'crime', I guess, I want to say, occured.

Things were much drier during the time Caylee went missing. Fay dumped alot of rain. They may not be able to get into areas that were once dry.

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by M.Gundy48
I'm looking at the Anthony house and I can't see any external signs of surveillance camera's. Was the webcam up while they were being installed? [/*]

Yes, we watched them install it yesterday on the webcam. I have surveillance cameras all over my property & they are very tiny, but the one we saw them installing was up by the windows to our right. They can be very small cameras. IMO.

[msjoni]

Originally posted by concernedmom



I wonder if they just up and called off the search today and sent everyone home ? If so that could indicate they found something. [/*]

I hope that's the case!:

[Chillin]

For those taht havent been near gators..those things will lay so still you dont see them till a part of you is in their mouth. I'd say searching those areas are dangerous..not to mention the poison snakes. I think they will wait till the wet areas dry to search.

Plus with many coming from out of state to search would put them in harms way if the hurricane does hit south Fla.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I remember hearing that Tim likes to search in conditions that are similar to those at the time the 'crime', I guess, I want to say, occured.

Things were much drier during the time Caylee went missing. Fay dumped alot of rain. They may not be able to get into areas that were once dry. [/*]

He actually mentioned the wet areas..I dont have a link.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by joint-heir
Have been watching everyone's opinions for quite a while now. Just some of my thoughts. In reading the 400 pages, Casey kept saying, I've done some stupid things and my Mom will never forgive me.
On July 3, I believe Cindy's comments on web page were to try and get Casey to bring Caylee to see her or at least talk on the phone.(saying my Caylee is missing) meaning Casey had left home with her and keeping G'Ma away from her. That's why the comments, I've given you 30 days already. I believe she was threatening to try and get to see her grandchild. But also have to think, the car was already at their home and they knew it had been abandoned. Things are racing fast, she can't get it all together. Then after getting the LE involved, wants to believe Casey's lies. The alternative is too hard to accept. Then it all snowballs. And she rolls with the denial. So many things don't make sense. But with all the details Casey gives with her lies, sure takes me back to Scott Peterson and where he was "calling" from on New Years Eve.(meaning all the details he gave). I forget, is he on death row or just life imprisonment? Maybe they will someday get to contest with each other who can tell the wilder tales...
Appreciate all the news and info given on this site. I know if I miss it somewhere else, I'll catch it here.. [/*]
Right in your post is the proof that Casey was the last to see Caylee alive.

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by chrissybot


TY steff. Thats a darn shame. [/*]


I wonder if they found something and the statement will stand until absolute identification is obtained? I can't see them calling off the entire search for that. And they can just move the searchers to other locations that aren't underwater that the LE have mapped out?? Just guessing since it seems to have happened so quickly today after they had already sent them out and to different locations too including someone reporting they were searching the wooded area behind the Anthony's. I have no idea, just wondering. For whatever reason they called it off, I send my heartfelt thanks to Tim and all of the wonderful volunteers who have joined in the effort to bring little Caylee home. :rose:

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by joint-heir
Have been watching everyone's opinions for quite a while now. Just some of my thoughts. In reading the 400 pages, Casey kept saying, I've done some stupid things and my Mom will never forgive me.
On July 3, I believe Cindy's comments on web page were to try and get Casey to bring Caylee to see her or at least talk on the phone.(saying my Caylee is missing) meaning Casey had left home with her and keeping G'Ma away from her. That's why the comments, I've given you 30 days already. I believe she was threatening to try and get to see her grandchild. But also have to think, the car was already at their home and they knew it had been abandoned. Things are racing fast, she can't get it all together. Then after getting the LE involved, wants to believe Casey's lies. The alternative is too hard to accept. Then it all snowballs. And she rolls with the denial. So many things don't make sense. But with all the details Casey gives with her lies, sure takes me back to Scott Peterson and where he was "calling" from on New Years Eve.(meaning all the details he gave). I forget, is he on death row or just life imprisonment? Maybe they will someday get to contest with each other who can tell the wilder tales...
Appreciate all the news and info given on this site. I know if I miss it somewhere else, I'll catch it here.. [/*]


I see one big difference in this and Scott Petterson. Scott was the last one with Lacy and we dont know that Casey was. I think that may be why I'm looking so hard at Cindy. Besides all the words coming out of her mouth.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Why did George have a gun in the back of his car?

I think Tim has finally "seen the light". Caylee will not be found anytime soon. Just think of the hurricaines, rain, wind, etc. He was trying to do the impossible. :rose: [/*]
But he had so many show up.....:(

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


Probably storms ........ TES was hoping for water levels to recede.
jmo [/*]

Has the weather already started there. Sorry to ask a stupid question, just been really busy lately.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Why did George have a gun in the back of his car?

I think Tim has finally "seen the light". Caylee will not be found anytime soon. Just think of the hurricaines, rain, wind, etc. He was trying to do the impossible. :rose: [/*]

My guess is the gun is Georges for protection. He was in law enforcement so having agun to me issnt weird at all. He most likely kept it in his bedroom but after bonding her out put it in his trunk so as not to violate her bond restrictions..which of course it did since she had access to the garage which is aaprt of the home.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by AJandTam


Has the weather already started there. Sorry to ask a stupid question, just been really busy lately. [/*]

Not far from Orlando and its a beautiful day here.

[Carol25]

I would really like to know Tim's demeanor right now. Is he really sad or reliieved or somewhat content?

[Takotna]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Show me a link that says Cindy was last with Caylee. Is that a typo on your part?

George watched Casey and Caylee leave the house together about 1:00 p;m. while he was watching his cooking show, unless they have changed their story. [/*]

Hi Dunnie -

Cindy originally said she last saw Caylee on June 9 - that changed when LE confronted her with the June 15th F'day video.
She testified to the 15th of June in the bond hearing. She took Caylee to the assisted living home and then to supper at GGMa's house a few blocks away.

I'm still waiting for something tangible on the last time CASEY and Caylee were together. I don't believe G's story with the cooking show, or the ZG story. So when were CASEY and CAYLEE last SEEN together?:confused:

AllMO

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


between the gators and the heat and the snakes and the bugs and the oncoming hurricane, to say nothing of the poor lady that had a heat stroke yesterday....i think everyone of them need a good rest.....

maybe they are done.....and they are maintaining their silence until the announcement is made....

that would be wonderful for everybody's sake....mo [/*]

Someone had a heat stoke. Poor Person, hope they are ok.

Yeah lots of troubles lurking in Florida but I just thought maybe i'd missed something else that might be meant. Thanks for answering.

[greylover]

Am I allowed to post a link? The guy who works for The Discovery Channel has a blog and he is helping w/the searches.

He has an update and it basically says that Equusearch was doing a lot of dives today.

Let me know if it is okay to post the link to his blog.

jmo

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Chillin


Not far from Orlando and its a beautiful day here. [/*]

TY. hmm....wonder why they called it off so early in the day then??

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae


:seeya:

It's Casey's car.
What do you mean they "can't place her in it"?

TonE picked her up at or near the car the last time it was driven before the tow...

Do they need a photo of her driving?
Seriously, placing her in the car is not a problem IMHO.

OT Kinda': Is the landfill within 3 miles of the Anthony home? [/*]
That statement really got to me, too!

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Carol25
I would really like to know Tim's demeanor right now. Is he really sad or reliieved or somewhat content? [/*]

I'm sure hes sad she hasnt been located and is probablly fustrated with the wet areas and this hurricane...he most likely would like to continue the search.

But I'm sure he knows he made the right decision for his searchers.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae


:seeya:

It's Casey's car.
What do you mean they "can't place her in it"?

TonE picked her up at or near the car the last time it was driven before the tow...

Do they need a photo of her driving?
Seriously, placing her in the car is not a problem IMHO.

OT Kinda': Is the landfill within 3 miles of the Anthony home? [/*]

It's not Casey's car. It's George and Cindy. Lee used to use it and now they let Casey use it. I wonder how Cindy was going to get LE to charge Casey with auto theft when they let her use the car. Guess it was a mistake in the "script" that needed to be corrected.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Barefooted


Is the lady who had the heat stroke ok? I hadn't heard about that. [/*]

i hope she is ok, too...but i haven't heard...

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by AJandTam


Has the weather already started there. Sorry to ask a stupid question, just been really busy lately. [/*]

Weather is great today. As of now, well, the last time I checked anyway, Florida doesn't have to worry much about Ike. He's forcasted to go into the Gulf and probably hit LO again.

[emdragon]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Perhaps you could take a few moments to completely read the 400 pages of released transcripts as many have done and find the information yourself if you are incl

Well if Cindy was proven to be the last known person with Caylee she would be the POI and NOT Cindy.

Add me to the hate the puke icon bunch

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Takotna



ITA - I've been focused on the chloroform business - if the pants didn't have chloroform residue, that would mean the chloroform was introduced into the trunk after the tow yard - IMO this would have answered many questions. Cindy fixed that, didnt she!

I wonder what else was taken from the car. :shrug:

AllMO:) [/*]

Interesting point. Remember tho, LE has the plastic bag of trash that Mr. Burk and george found in the trunk. I bet they tested that for chloroform residue and/or fumes. That could help determine when the chloroform was used.

[Chillin]

Maybe Tim called off the search because they have searched all the areas they know of..and plan to regroup and come up with more areas..just a guess.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Takotna


Hi Dunnie -

Cindy originally said she last saw Caylee on June 9 - that changed when LE confronted her with the June 15th F'day video.
She testified to the 15th of June in the bond hearing. She took Caylee to the assisted living home and then to supper at GGMa's house a few blocks away.

I'm still waiting for something tangible on the last time CASEY and Caylee were together. I don't believe G's story with the cooking show, or the ZG story. So when were CASEY and CAYLEE last together?:confused:

AllMO [/*]
In the phone call to 911, where she says to Casey, "I gave you thirty days..." says she wants her to cough her up, NOW! doesn't it?

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by greylover
Am I allowed to post a link? The guy who works for The Discovery Channel has a blog and he is helping w/the searches.

He has an update and it basically says that Equusearch was doing a lot of dives today.

Let me know if it is okay to post the link to his blog.

jmo [/*]

that's how i know about it so it must be ok ...i don't think anyone has been reprimanded about it...i've seen it several times...

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by Chillin


Not far from Orlando and its a beautiful day here. [/*]

Thanks Chillin.

[nana6]

Originally posted by Chillin


TY..least one doesnt have me ignored.

Yes I am right. [/*] Chillin, I am not ignoring you either!!!!

[forpsystudent]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


IMO, appears technical specs are published to a targeted audience. Any evidence of peer review? [/*]


Hard copy published in March by Journal of Forensic Science.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by emdragon
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Perhaps you could take a few moments to completely read the 400 pages of released transcripts as many have done and find the information yourself if you are incl

Well if Cindy was proven to be the last known person with Caylee she would be the POI and NOT Cindy.

Add me to the hate the puke icon bunch [/*]

As far as we know Cindy is the last person with Caylee per video at the bond hearingl How do we know Cindy isn't a POI. Le doesn't have to say if she is.

[greylover]

Bringing this down because no one answered:


Am I allowed to post a link? The guy who works for The Discovery Channel has a blog and he is helping w/the searches.

He has an update and it basically says that Equusearch was doing a lot of dives today.

Let me know if it is okay to post the link to his blog.

jmo

[Crispy]

Originally posted by Chillin
Maybe Tim called off the search because they have searched all the areas they know of..and plan to regroup and come up with more areas..just a guess. [/*]

He says he called off the search because of all the water.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Weather is great today. As of now, well, the last time I checked anyway, Florida doesn't have to worry much about Ike. He's forcasted to go into the Gulf and probably hit LO again. [/*]Last forecast yes. I sure hope it continues to go that route for our sake...but totally feel bad for La. They have had bad luck.

It can turn tho..I hope it fizzes out.

[greylover]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


that's how i know about it so it must be ok ...i don't think anyone has been reprimanded about it...i've seen it several times... [/*]

Thanks! This page is zipping along....

jmo

[kakax]

Originally posted by msjoni


I hope that's the case!: [/*]
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

ORLANDO -- Texas EquuSearch has temporarily called off its ground search for missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search.

Texas EquuSearch leader Tim Miller said the volunteers cleared off the areas they had of interest the best they could, but he said when Caylee disappeared, those areas were very dry and now those areas are holding a considerable amount of water.

Miller said because of those conditions, they cannot clear those areas 100 percent.

“I just have a huge concern that if Caylee is out there and her little body and something did happen to her, and she’s just possibly skeletal remains, if we’re going through there with four-wheelers and horses and just accidentally run over her because she’s under that water and we can’t see her, we’re going to push her more in the mud,” Miller said.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Crispy


He says he called off the search because of all the water. [/*]

I know I posted that already. I was responding the question why so early today..I figure they've searched all they can in those areas.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Chillin
Maybe Tim called off the search because they have searched all the areas they know of..and plan to regroup and come up with more areas..just a guess. [/*]
When Tim called off the search, did he say "for today?" It seems to me if it was for weather, he would have said that. Calling it off sounds permanent.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Dunnie
Easy..... my car has been stolen. :shrug: It's in their names, not Casey's. [/*]

It might be easy to say but I don't believe it would be legal. You give your car to someone to use it's not stolen.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by nana6
Chillin, I am not ignoring you either!!!! [/*]

nor i...:D

[Chillin]

Originally posted by kakax

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

ORLANDO -- Texas EquuSearch has temporarily called off its ground search for missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.

On Sunday, the group cited environmental conditions and concerns for stopping the search.

Texas EquuSearch leader Tim Miller said the volunteers cleared off the areas they had of interest the best they could, but he said when Caylee disappeared, those areas were very dry and now those areas are holding a considerable amount of water.

Miller said because of those conditions, they cannot clear those areas 100 percent.

“I just have a huge concern that if Caylee is out there and her little body and something did happen to her, and she’s just possibly skeletal remains, if we’re going through there with four-wheelers and horses and just accidentally run over her because she’s under that water and we can’t see her, we’re going to push her more in the mud,” Miller said. [/*]

Yep..what i thought..TY for the link.

[greylover]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-7.html


Short update on Equusearch. I've been following this - he has alot of access to EQ and TM.

jmo

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by Chillin


Not far from Orlando and its a beautiful day here. [/*]


I'm in South FL. Sunny and Hot.

As is most days.

Not surprised that TM called the search off.

I was hoping that today would be the day.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by eours1949


Am in Louisiana, just got out from under Gustav. Sure hope Ike heads west southwest. 50% of 1/2 of Louisiana is without power, current temp. 86 on my covered patio, very high humidity, makes it feel like 106. Fear many will not survive another hit. FEMA seems to be lost - our Gov. says he will believe them when he sees them.

Now, everyone stand facing south and blow real hard, maybe we can deflect Ike.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom [/*]


Better blow hard enough to keep it away from Texas.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Carol25

When Tim called off the search, did he say "for today?" It seems to me if it was for weather, he would have said that. Calling it off sounds permanent. [/*]

i am so praying that Tim's work in orlando is done.....

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by Chillin


Yep..what i thought..TY for the link. [/*]

So they have completed their search except for the wet areas?:confused:

[nana6]

Originally posted by Chillin


I'm sure hes sad she hasnt been located and is probablly fustrated with the wet areas and this hurricane...he most likely would like to continue the search.

But I'm sure he knows he made the right decision for his searchers. [/*] Well, maybe this is just tempoary Maybe they are not packing up

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Weather is great today. As of now, well, the last time I checked anyway, Florida doesn't have to worry much about Ike. He's forcasted to go into the Gulf and probably hit LO again. [/*]

Thanks MsG. I hope it doesn't hit anyone. The storms are bad this year huh?

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Chillin
Last forecast yes. I sure hope it continues to go that route for our sake...but totally feel bad for La. They have had bad luck.

It can turn tho..I hope it fizzes out. [/*]

I feel bad for them, yeah. But they can have 2008. We had 2004. Plus pesky Fay this year, lol.

And yes, we still have to keep an eye on it. Just in case it decides to change direction.

Even with Tim calling off searching for a time, at least HE was able to get massive amounts of people to help, along with LE cooperation, and they have elimated many areas that Caylee is not in. And I'm sure he'll start again when he feels the time is right.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


I'm actually a very kind person. I was asking a sincere question. I've dug through tons of information and links on this case and I'm just not sure why my time is less valuable than someone else's.

In any event, I've moved on. I'll leave it up to the rest of you kinder-than-me folks to keep the poster in question informed. [/*]''


sometimes, it makes all the difference in the world, the WAY someone asks, also...imo

[Carol25]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


I'm actually a very kind person. I was asking a sincere question. I've dug through tons of information and links on this case and I'm just not sure why my time is less valuable than someone else's.

In any event, I've moved on. I'll leave it up to the rest of you kinder-than-me folks to keep the poster in question informed. [/*]
I'm sure you are!:seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Swarovski
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html



Search suspended. [/*]"temporarily..."

:(

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by AJandTam


Has the weather already started there. Sorry to ask a stupid question, just been really busy lately. [/*]Judging from the web cam, the weather does not look bad. I don't see how conditions could be worse than yesterday. Hmmmm.....seems odd given that so many have turned up to search. Many traveling great distances.

[concernedmom]

Along with local efforts, EquuSearch said it's starting a national campaign Monday.

:confused:

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by eours1949


Am in Louisiana, just got out from under Gustav. Sure hope Ike heads west southwest. 50% of 1/2 of Louisiana is without power, current temp. 86 on my covered patio, very high humidity, makes it feel like 106. Fear many will not survive another hit. FEMA seems to be lost - our Gov. says he will believe them when he sees them.

Now, everyone stand facing south and blow real hard, maybe we can deflect Ike.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom [/*]

:( I say we all blow hard. Push him back into the Atlantic. Where he circles around himself and disappears.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

“I just have a huge concern that if Caylee is out there and her little body and something did happen to her, and she’s just possibly skeletal remains, if we’re going through there with four-wheelers and horses and just accidentally run over her because she’s under that water and we can’t see her, we’re going to push her more in the mud,” Miller said."


It's too muddy and watery in places. He's so kind and respectful of Caylee, unlike you know who. [/*]

:rose: Horrible to think about that.

[kakax]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Sunday afternoon, Texas EquuSearch announced it was suspending its search for Caylee Anthony. The organization cited environmental conditions and concerns as the reason for their decision.

Meanwhile, protestors continued to spend hours in front of the Anthony family home, demanding Casey Anthony tell investigators where her daughter Caylee is.

Sunday morning was quiet in front of the Anthony home. Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, left for church around 10am but without Casey. A steady stream of curious people continued to drive past the house taking pictures and even knocking on the Anthony's door.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html


For those of us interested in what George and Cindy have been up to today.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Chevalier
Judging from the web cam, the weather does not look bad. I don't see how conditions could be worse than yesterday. Hmmmm.....seems odd given that so many have turned up to search. Many traveling great distances. [/*]


Maybe they are getting into areas that are in worse shape than the ones they were in yesterday. I don't see Tim giving up this quick, just caring about those helping to search.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Serenity


Why? [/*]
The fact that they can't place Casey in the car? Well, she's been driving it for a couple of years, She had Tony pick her up from Amscot where she abandoned it. It's not a reach to connect Casey to that car.

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~


"Along with local efforts, EquuSearch said it's starting a national campaign Monday."

Very interesting. [/*]

And confusing. Maybe he is going to make a national appeal for searchers?:confused:

[jmgos1]

Originally posted by stuck again
Casey said she told Juliet Lewis from Universal that Caylee was missing.Of course that JL does not exist,but there is an actress ,Juliette Lewis.One of her biggest movies was Natural Born Killers.I'm going to see what else she was in.I bet LE already knows this. [/*]

Too Young To Die = I watch it all the time on Lifetime

What's Eating Gilbert Grape?

[AJandTam]

Originally posted by SayWHAT?


I'm actually a very kind person. I was asking a sincere question. I've dug through tons of information and links on this case and I'm just not sure why my time is less valuable than someone else's.

In any event, I've moved on. I'll leave it up to the rest of you kinder-than-me folks to keep the poster in question informed. [/*]

That's how it is on the boards though. In most cases i've had the free time to research too, but lately lifes been a bit more involved. Just try to relax and not fuss, whomever you help today, might help you later on if you get busy and can't keep up like you are now. We all try to help each other and over the years you will make many awesome friends.