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[SwFlorida]

New day, new hope.

Caylee :rose:

[nachomama]

Originally posted by SwFlorida
New day, new hope.

Caylee :rose: [/*]

Good Morning !! Lets all say an extra prayer today for little Caylee and all of the people searching for her. They are heros.

[smhustoiii]

I am saying a prayer for Caylee this morning and will continue to pray that this nightmare of a story will come to an end with precious Caylee being found and all those responsible being held accountable and sent to jail!!!

[johnielee333]

:rose: :rose: :rose: we love you Caylee !

[kellabeck]

May today be the day her little body is found!!
:rose:

[warrkat]

Originally posted by MicheleL


Always ..

Morning .. :seeya: [/*]

Good Morning, all.

[Armchairdet]

Good morning.
:rose:

[GrannyB]

Good morning. I sure hope today is the day they find Caylee.

[Ckrdpast]

IS searchers home just posted an update here

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=339422

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by kellabeck
May today be the day her little body is found!!
:rose: [/*]


An alive Caylee, not a "little body".

[SwFlorida]

This was on the link thread and I wanted to bring it over..Thanks kakax..

kakax
Senior Member

Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 2202
Sept. 6th 10pm News My Fox Orlando

My Fox Orlando at 10

Anthony's installed a surveillance camera outside of their front door. Neighbor called police because she was afraid fire trucks couldn't get down the road.

Anchor says he is sick of watching grand standers behind the reporter and neighbors are sick of it as well.

8PM vigil tomorrow night still planned.

Searchers found nothing today. May have to call of search at end of the week because 1/3 of area is under water...but they will come back.

Equusearch searching for 9 days so far.

Casey's next scheduled outing is on monday to visit her case worker.


__________________

[Justice_Dawg]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



An alive Caylee, not a "little body". [/*];)

[Chillin]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



An alive Caylee, not a "little body". [/*]

Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body.

[FrankieBones1]

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]Hi, Chillin and all. I think most of us believe little Caylee is dead. All the evidence so far points in that sad direction.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]

Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug:

[Kathlb]

For little Caylee :rose:

I truly hope Tim and group find her before they have to leave due to water coverage. I also read last night that LE were going to remove a slab in the Anthony's back yard this week. There was a lot of confusion concerning if there was a slab or just pavers. Did they finally resolve that confusion or are we still up in the air on that?

I am anxious to hear the report from our wonderful searchers that went. :-)

[FrankieBones1]

Fox News Channel discussing huffing chloroform right now with an expert on it.

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by SwFlorida
This was on the link thread and I wanted to bring it over..Thanks kakax..

kakax
Senior Member

Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 2202
Sept. 6th 10pm News My Fox Orlando

My Fox Orlando at 10

Anthony's installed a surveillance camera outside of their front door. Neighbor called police because she was afraid fire trucks couldn't get down the road.

Anchor says he is sick of watching grand standers behind the reporter and neighbors are sick of it as well.

8PM vigil tomorrow night still planned.

Searchers found nothing today. May have to call of search at end of the week because 1/3 of area is under water...but they will come back.

Equusearch searching for 9 days so far.

Casey's next scheduled outing is on monday to visit her case worker.


__________________ [/*]



in our conversations with tim yesterday- he has NO PLANS on leaving the area anytime soon


if bad weather comes into the area, they may have to pull out but he told us he would return as many times as necessary

HE IS DETERMINED

[FrankieBones1]

Originally posted by Kathlb
For little Caylee :rose:

I truly hope Tim and group find her before they have to leave due to water coverage. I also read last night that LE were going to remove a slab in the Anthony's back yard this week. There was a lot of confusion concerning if there was a slab or just pavers. Did they finally resolve that confusion or are we still up in the air on that?

I am anxious to hear the report from our wonderful searchers that went. :-) [/*]I don't understand why they didn't unearth the pavers/concrete weeks ago.

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by Kathlb
For little Caylee :rose:

I truly hope Tim and group find her before they have to leave due to water coverage. I also read last night that LE were going to remove a slab in the Anthony's back yard this week. There was a lot of confusion concerning if there was a slab or just pavers. Did they finally resolve that confusion or are we still up in the air on that?

I am anxious to hear the report from our wonderful searchers that went. :-) [/*]
Not sure on your question but I think it wouldnt hurt to search there yard some more.I think parents of Casey are helping cover her beind.moo

[johnielee333]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



An alive Caylee, not a "little body". [/*]

that would be really great !
A :rose: for Caylee.
We're all Praying for you little Caylee.

[johnielee333]

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg
;) [/*]

hey good morning justice ! :seeya:

[FrankieBones1]

Originally posted by SwFlorida
New day, new hope.

Caylee :rose: [/*]Good Morning, SwFlorida. I'd like to thank you for the new thread and putting the day of the week first in the title. It was easy to find. :rose:

Secondly, I'd like to re-post Mitzi's update on the three members from this board that have been out searching.

Taken from an earlier thread....


mitzi
Member

Registered: Nov 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 209
Update from search party
Just spoke with Jbell again, and they are doing fine.

Jbella, Ckrdpst and Rebel were searching in the Cypruss Hammock community. They found a couple of things of interest, and they were being looked into. Just items that were found.

Onedarksun was in the Andover Santuary area. There was something of interest found by the ATV riders, and dogs were being brought into check it out.

They have all met Tim, and said what a wonderful person he is. They told him who they were and how they came to be here thru this board, and they said it brought tears to his eyes.

JB will be checking in again later, and I will give you an update then.

Hope I have all of this correct. Was taking notes and talking - so I just hope I got the names of the area correct.

A couple of folks had pm'd me earlier with messages to pass on, and I did.

Thanks,
Mitzi

[johnielee333]

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]

i hope they find her either way but would rather they find her alive.

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by FrankieBones1
Good Morning, SwFlorida. I'd like to thank you for the new thread and putting the day of the week first in the title. It was easy to find. :rose:

Secondly, I'd like to re-post Mitzi's update on the three members from this board that have been out searching.

Taken from an earlier thread....


mitzi
Member

Registered: Nov 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 209
Update from search party
Just spoke with Jbell again, and they are doing fine.

Jbella, Ckrdpst and Rebel were searching in the Cypruss Hammock community. They found a couple of things of interest, and they were being looked into. Just items that were found.

Onedarksun was in the Andover Santuary area. There was something of interest found by the ATV riders, and dogs were being brought into check it out.

They have all met Tim, and said what a wonderful person he is. They told him who they were and how they came to be here thru this board, and they said it brought tears to his eyes.

JB will be checking in again later, and I will give you an update then.

Hope I have all of this correct. Was taking notes and talking - so I just hope I got the names of the area correct.

A couple of folks had pm'd me earlier with messages to pass on, and I did.

Thanks,
Mitzi [/*]
Thanks for update Frankiebones.I pray they find this lil lady soon.mo

[gino1234]

What will Cindy do when all the media die down?

[ellegna]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

I don't think there is ANY ONE on this board who would rather find a body than a live Caylee. We ALL wish Caylee comes home safe and sound however the longer Casey refuses to cooperate and evidence keeps indicating there was a dead body in the trunk, you can't blame the public's conclusion Caylee is no longer with us.

:rose: For Caylee

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by johnielee333


i hope they find her either way but would rather they find her alive. [/*]

Same here, but I'll be VERY surprised if she's alive, considering the evidence we've heard about so far.

:rose:

[spageddy]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

I doubt very much that anyone here would rather find a body than a live child. That's an assumption that quite frankly, offends me. The searchers , Le, and th's, have all indicated that Caylee is most likely, and most tragically, deceased. DOn't ya' think we would all rejoice if Caylee were to be found alive? Give me a BREAK!

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by johnielee333


that would be really great !
A :rose: for Caylee.
We're all Praying for you little Caylee. [/*]Thank you and you restore my faith in human nature to hope and pray for a living Caylee rather than a body. Anything is possible of course but thinking positive is so much better IMO than thinking negative.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by spageddy


I doubt very much that anyone here would rather find a body than a live child. That's an assumption that quite frankly, offends me. The searchers , Le, and th's, have all indicated that Caylee is most likely, and most tragically, deceased. DOn't ya' think we would all rejoice if Caylee were to be found alive? Give me a BREAK! [/*]



All I can say is AMEN.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

I haven't seen one post on this board by anyone saying they'd rather find Caylee's body, than find her alive. What board did you see that on?

[febreze]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

everyone here would like to find a live Caylee but, it doesn't look like that is what will happen. needless to say she needs to be brought home. no matter what. That's what people are saying, they certainly are not praying she's dead, i see no one implying such a thing.:no:

[CNTM]

I noticed that the boards will be down some tomorrow for upgrades. Is there an alternate site for discussion, should anything be breaking news? :shrug:

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by FrankieBones1
Good Morning, SwFlorida. I'd like to thank you for the new thread and putting the day of the week first in the title. It was easy to find. :rose:

Secondly, I'd like to re-post Mitzi's update on the three members from this board that have been out searching.

Taken from an earlier thread....


mitzi
Member

Registered: Nov 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 209
Update from search party
Just spoke with Jbell again, and they are doing fine.

Jbella, Ckrdpst and Rebel were searching in the Cypruss Hammock community. They found a couple of things of interest, and they were being looked into. Just items that were found.

Onedarksun was in the Andover Santuary area. There was something of interest found by the ATV riders, and dogs were being brought into check it out.

They have all met Tim, and said what a wonderful person he is. They told him who they were and how they came to be here thru this board, and they said it brought tears to his eyes.

JB will be checking in again later, and I will give you an update then.

Hope I have all of this correct. Was taking notes and talking - so I just hope I got the names of the area correct.

A couple of folks had pm'd me earlier with messages to pass on, and I did.

Thanks,
Mitzi [/*]


frankie i posted a searcher update in the other thread--

wish i could post more but my mind and fingers are currently in the SLOW MODE


ETA Link

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=339422

[kelleyb227]

I am so utterly frustrated today. I keep hoping that someone finds Caylee. I wanted to break down and cry when Casey walked out of jail....AGAIN. I am hoping and praying that today brings a break in this case.

I know we all feel the same way, I just had to type it this morning. Gimme a few more cups of coffee and I'll be just plain angry LOL.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by spageddy


I doubt very much that anyone here would rather find a body than a live child. That's an assumption that quite frankly, offends me. The searchers , Le, and th's, have all indicated that Caylee is most likely, and most tragically, deceased. DOn't ya' think we would all rejoice if Caylee were to be found alive? Give me a BREAK! [/*]

I answered the post, it was not an assumption and if you are offened, oh well, it was not your post. Indications are not proof and don't forget LE also said they are considering the case a MISSING person case. NOT all missing persons turn up dead. Elizabeth Smnart did not turn up dead and a lot of people were praying for her body to be found as well. Here it is the post I was answering. ...............--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA
Thank you and you restore my faith in human nature to hope and pray for a living Caylee rather than a body. Anything is possible of course but thinking positive is so much better IMO than thinking negative. [/*]
It is not thinking negitive Grandma it is logic and some common sense along with the facts as we know them.moo

[CNTM]

Originally posted by kelleyb227
I am so utterly frustrated today. I keep hoping that someone finds Caylee. I wanted to break down and cry when Casey walked out of jail....AGAIN. I am hoping and praying that today brings a break in this case.

I know we all feel the same way, I just had to type it this morning. Gimme a few more cups of coffee and I'll be just plain angry LOL. [/*]

I did cry Kelley! I was so angry! :flamemad:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by febreze


everyone here would like to find a live Caylee but, it doesn't look like that is what will happen. needless to say she needs to be brought home. no matter what. That's what people are saying, they certainly are not praying she's dead, i see no one implying such a thing.:no: [/*]

Chillin quote:


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body.

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast




in our conversations with tim yesterday- he has NO PLANS on leaving the area anytime soon


if bad weather comes into the area, they may have to pull out but he told us he would return as many times as necessary

HE IS DETERMINED [/*]

Thank you, that's wonderful news to hear! We all would like to see Caylee alive and well, but we also have to see what has happened and what people have done. If she is gone, we need to know that and find her. She needs to come home. MOO

Caylee :rose:

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]

agreed chillin. good morning everyone:seeya:

:rose: Caylee

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

It is not thinking negitive Grandma it is logic and some common sense along with the facts as we know them.moo [/*]

Common sense tells me to wait for proof not leaks and what some people think based on the leaks. We have courts to prove or disprove those leaks and until they are proven I will think positive.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Common sense tells me to wait for proof not leaks and what some people think based on the leaks. We have courts to prove or disprove those leaks and until they are proven I will think positive. [/*]



If Caylee were to be found alive do you think she should be allowed to go back to the Anthony home?

[trich]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]


I think that most do believe that Caylee is dead because there was a dead body in the trunk (what other explaination could there be)...but saying that I know there is not one person on this board that would not be happy to be proven wrong.
It is better to think the worst and find out you are wrong then to think the best and find out you are wrong. IMO

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by trich



I think that most do believe that Caylee is dead because there was a dead body in the trunk (what other explaination could there be)...but saying that I know there is not one person on this board that would not be happy to be proven wrong.
--snip-- [/*]


ITA

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by GrannyB




If Caylee were to be found alive do you think she should be allowed to go back to the Anthony home? [/*]

In my mind and heart, absolutely not. No one in that house no matter the rhetoric has shown anything but constantly twisting stories, changing stories and proven lies mingled with the truth. That shows me that their motive is to get Casey off no matter that they have lost a granddaughter and daughter. The first aim should be to protect children at all costs. They are defenseless and helpless and look to their parents and grandparents to protect them. This hasn't happened in this case from all that I have seen, read and heard from their mouths. JMHO

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Common sense tells me to wait for proof not leaks and what some people think based on the leaks. We have courts to prove or disprove those leaks and until they are proven I will think positive. [/*]
At some point everyone has to face reality.Caylee has now been missing for months and the Anthony family are not even helping in anyway to find her.That is when some common sense and facts go a long ways.moo
What is Casey doing/done to aid in search of her daughter?I guess surfing the net and partying? Stealing and hi jacking friends and familys bank accounts?just wondering.mo:punch: to Casey and her lack of cooperation to bring her baby home.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by trich



I think that most do believe that Caylee is dead because there was a dead body in the trunk (what other explaination could there be)...but saying that I know there is not one person on this board that would not be happy to be proven wrong.
It is better to think the worst and find out you are wrong then to think the best and find out you are wrong. IMO [/*]


And if LE thought she was alive I doubt they would have given Tim 5,000 and begged him to stay.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by trich



I think that most do believe that Caylee is dead because there was a dead body in the trunk (what other explaination could there be)...but saying that I know there is not one person on this board that would not be happy to be proven wrong.
It is better to think the worst and find out you are wrong then to think the best and find out you are wrong. IMO [/*]

When was the trial that it was proven there was a dead body in the trunk?

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Kathlb


In my mind and heart, absolutely not. No one in that house no matter the rhetoric has shown anything but constantly twisting stories, changing stories and proven lies mingled with the truth. That shows me that their motive is to get Casey off no matter that they have lost a granddaughter and daughter. The first aim should be to protect children at all costs. They are defenseless and helpless and look to their parents and grandparents to protect them. This hasn't happened in this case from all that I have seen, read and heard from their mouths. JMHO [/*]


ITA. If they were to put her back there I think I would be outside the house protesting and I think the protestors shouldn't be there now.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB



And if LE thought she was alive I doubt they would have given Tim 5,000 and begged him to stay. [/*]

I'm sure "some" in LE thinks she is dead and thought so from the very beginning. LE is not always right either you know.

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by GrannyB



And if LE thought she was alive I doubt they would have given Tim 5,000 and begged him to stay. [/*]

True that. And I for one trust LE since they are the only ones who have told the truth in this whole case!-IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning friends. So, accoding to Kakax's post -

My Fox Orlando at 10

Anthony's installed a surveillance camera outside of their front door.

Well, this assures us that more then likely there will be more then one moon appearing at night around the anthony home.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I'm sure "some" in LE thinks she is dead and thought so from the very beginning. LE is not always right either you know. [/*]


It wasn't just LE that smelled decomp. Cindy and George did too.
Wanting her to be alive is what we all would love to happen. Reality says that not the case.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB




If Caylee were to be found alive do you think she should be allowed to go back to the Anthony home? [/*]

That would be up to child welfare IMO. They can investigatge and learn the facts but no one on these message boards can do so. It is obvious the grandparents are crazy about Caylee and did everything in their power to make her life happy.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Common sense tells me to wait for proof not leaks and what some people think based on the leaks. We have courts to prove or disprove those leaks and until they are proven I will think positive. [/*]

It is great that you are thinking positive Grandma. LE has said themselves they do not think she is alive, that is not a leak. It is your right to think positive.. all of us want her to be alive. It is our right to think she is not alive by what LE has told us.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


That would be up to child welfare IMO. They can investigatge and learn the facts but no one on these message boards can do so. It is obvious the grandparents are crazy about Caylee and did everything in their power to make her life happy. [/*]


Now I have to disagree. If they are so crazy about her why aren't they out looking for her? Reality again has to come into our thinking. And all the toys and play things don't mean she had a happy life.

[Sioux_girl]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


That would be up to child welfare IMO. They can investigatge and learn the facts but no one on these message boards can do so. It is obvious the grandparents are crazy about Caylee and did everything in their power to make her life happy. [/*]

They are so crazy about her that there leaving her to rot somewhere just to save there precious daughter and are trying there hardest to stop anyone finding her so she can have a proper burial.

Is that really what grandparents do that are crazy about there grandchildren ? :rolleyes:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by Motomom


It is great that you are thinking positive Grandma. LE has said themselves they do not think she is alive, that is not a leak. It is your right to think positive.. all of us want her to be alive. It is our right to think she is not alive by what LE has told us. [/*]

Sadly, I feel you are right Motomom. I think she is no longer alive.

For Caylee :rose:

[Motomom]

Originally posted by GrannyB




If Caylee were to be found alive do you think she should be allowed to go back to the Anthony home? [/*]

Maybe to Cindy and George (no matter my opinion on them) but IMO she should never be given back to her mother.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB



It wasn't just LE that smelled decomp. Cindy and George did too.
Wanting her to be alive is what we all would love to happen. Reality says that not the case. [/*]

Not proven what they smelled as far as I am concerned. I can wait for a trial and let whatever they say be proven. Reality IS a trial and proof.

I'm sure most people would rather find Caylee alive but it seems to me some also have an agenda with the hate they feel for Casey and/or Cindy and George and I do not understand that. These people are strangers to us and yet some can build up so much hate when we do not know all the facts or even if Caylee is dead or alive.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Now I have to disagree. If they are so crazy about her why aren't they out looking for her? Reality again has to come into our thinking. And all the toys and play things don't mean she had a happy life. [/*]


Granny I have to say that I do think she had a happy life while at her home with CA and GA. Kids like stability. When she was taken from that home by her mother..no not a happy life IMO. Common sense and logic really need to come into play in this case IMO. We can't use "facts" that the mother or family have given us.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Sioux_girl


They are so crazy about her that there leaving her to rot somewhere just to save there precious daughter and are trying there hardest to stop anyone finding her so she can have a proper burial.

Is that really what grandparents do that are crazy about there grandchildren ? :rolleyes: [/*]

How on earth do you know that??? Talk about assumptions, that is a GIANT leap.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Not proven what they smelled as far as I am concerned. I can wait for a trial and let whatever they say be proven. Reality IS a trial and proof.

I'm sure most people would rather find Caylee alive but it seems to me some also have an agenda with the hate they feel for Casey and/or Cindy and George and I do not understand that. These people are strangers to us and yet some can build up so much hate when we do not know all the facts or even if Caylee is dead or alive. [/*]


I will agree on the hate and I don't understand it. Especially the hate for Casey when we just don't know which one of the three did this. Right now I know I'm in the minority because I am leaning towards Cindy did something. But I don't hate any of them. It's a wasted emotion. I do want the guilty one to pay to the fullest extent of the law. And we think what we think about them because of their words and lack of action. What we've seen is reality.

[CNTM]

Yes, they are strangers to us, but actions speak louder than words. Their actions don't show a family who honestly cares about finding Caylee, alive or dead. I can't help but have bad thoughts about them. And I am not a person who wishes ill will on anyone, but these people have made me think and say things I normally would not do.

For Caylee :rose:

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


That would be up to child welfare IMO. They can investigatge and learn the facts but no one on these message boards can do so. It is obvious the grandparents are crazy about Caylee and did everything in their power to make her life happy. [/*]
Toys and items do not make a happy child.Secuity in life and protection from her mother would have went much further in mo.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


How on earth do you know that??? Talk about assumptions, that is a GIANT leap. [/*]

OK I have to ask. If your grandchild was missing would you act like the Anthony's?

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Now I have to disagree. If they are so crazy about her why aren't they out looking for her? Reality again has to come into our thinking. And all the toys and play things don't mean she had a happy life. [/*]How do we know what they are doing to find her? We do not live in their home, minds or hearts and have no way of knowing. Are they beating the bushes and swamps looking for her, no, but then they think she is alive and are maybe doing things to find her alvie. We just do not know.

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast




in our conversations with tim yesterday- he has NO PLANS on leaving the area anytime soon


if bad weather comes into the area, they may have to pull out but he told us he would return as many times as necessary

HE IS DETERMINED [/*]
Thank you CK.. The hurricane looks like it will be missing Florida so the weather may stay nice.

[k_can004]

Originally posted by CNTM
Yes, they are strangers to us, but actions speak louder than words. Their actions don't show a family who honestly cares about finding Caylee, alive or dead. I can't help but have bad thoughts about them. And I am not a person who wishes ill will on anyone, but these people have made me think and say things I normally would not do.

For Caylee :rose: [/*]


So very very true.... I FEEL THE VERY SAME WAY!!!

:rose: CAYLEE

[Motomom]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Not proven what they smelled as far as I am concerned. I can wait for a trial and let whatever they say be proven. Reality IS a trial and proof.

I'm sure most people would rather find Caylee alive but it seems to me some also have an agenda with the hate they feel for Casey and/or Cindy and George and I do not understand that. These people are strangers to us and yet some can build up so much hate when we do not know all the facts or even if Caylee is dead or alive. [/*]

It was proven via the air test that there was a dead body in the trunk of the car. If you need to wait till a trial, then so be it. I don't have to wait for a trial and I surely don't have to see the "proof" (whatever that may be) that there was a dead body in the trunk. We were told what the proof was. The facts are in front of us, I'm sure someone made a list. The reason people are feeling the way they are in regards to the anthonys is because of what the anthonys have done or not done and have said on national tv. Have you followed from the beginning? Of course nobody likes Casey, who could? She had her daughter missing for a month and in that time was out partying, feeling other people up, drinking, and lord knows what else. I'm glad you have faith that she is alive grandma, I do. But the evidence that we know of, at this point, does not lead to a live child.. i so wish it did. I bet many if not most of us have cried over this little girl.

[CNTM]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

Toys and items do not make a happy child.Secuity in life and protection from her mother would have went much further in mo. [/*]

So true nutterbutter!

For Caylee

:rose:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO

[Sioux_girl]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


How on earth do you know that??? Talk about assumptions, that is a GIANT leap. [/*]

Cindy Anthony has made it more than obvious shes not willing to try and find her grand daughter. Maybe you have missed it all :rolleyes:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB


OK I have to ask. If your grandchild was missing would you act like the Anthony's? [/*]

I do not know because I have never had a missing granchild. IMO no one can say how they would act or what they would do in a given situation until we are actually in that situation. We may think we would act differently but I'm sure the family knows more than we do and they may know she really is alive and are so frustrtated because they can't find her.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by the breeze


Your right that is NOT what good grandparents do, if they loved Caylee as much as they try and let on they would take up for her and put a stop to the bullcrap her mom is still trying to give them. I have always said to alot of people you can love your child but when you get a grandchild it's just a whole different kind of love, a never ending love that all you wanna do is protect them. So no imo this grandparent is only thinking of her daughter, who deserves nothing. [/*]

My nannie, my fathers mom, has always and still to this day says.. her children always come firsst (not that she has ever proven that). But children before grandchildren she has said.. sounds much like the anthonys IMO.

[CNTM]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO [/*]

*standing and applauding*

For Caylee :rose:

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO [/*]



We sure do need a high five smiley. Cause this post deserves one.

[n/t]

Originally posted by SwFlorida

Thank you CK.. The hurricane looks like it will be missing Florida so the weather may stay nice. [/*]

Great news for Tim and the searchers!

Morning all! :seeya:

Scampi, I don't get why they had to install a surveillance camera considering media is parked out there and no doubt LE is SURVEILLING their home!!

But whatever.....:rolleyes:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Sioux_girl


Cindy Anthony has made it more than obvious shes not willing to try and find her grand daughter. Maybe you have missed it all :rolleyes: [/*]

Dead.................... but she is trying to find an alvie Caylle IMO. She is not my granddaughter and I too would rather spend some of the time and money trying to find her alive rather than dead.

[VC2]

Originally posted by Motomom


Maybe to Cindy and George (no matter my opinion on them) but IMO she should never be given back to her mother. [/*]

if she was found alive, i definitely could see returning her to cindy and george, but never casey.

Also, if she was found alive, most of the arguments about the grandparents fall flat, it would prove they were right, she was alive/kidnapped whatever.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I do not know because I have never had a missing granchild. IMO no one can say how they would act or what they would do in a given situation until we are actually in that situation. We may think we would act differently but I'm sure the family knows more than we do and they may know she really is alive and are so frustrtated because they can't find her. [/*]


Now I can promise you you are wrong. I would never never act like the Anthony's. And once LE found out who did the deed that person better pray real hard LE finds them before I do. Relative or not. That's a promise.

[sofiesmom]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Not proven what they smelled as far as I am concerned. I can wait for a trial and let whatever they say be proven. Reality IS a trial and proof.
<snipped>
[/*] I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in someone's smell test either, but UT's Body Farm, a very sophisticated and respected entity tested air samples and found what they found. I find that to be compelling beyond reasonable doubt.

[k_can004]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO [/*]


Very well said!!

[ChloeRN]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


That would be up to child welfare IMO. They can investigatge and learn the facts but no one on these message boards can do so. It is obvious the grandparents are crazy about Caylee and did everything in their power to make her life happy. [/*]
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How do you know they were crazy about Caylee? It has'nt been proven in a court of law.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2


if she was found alive, i definitely could see returning her to cindy and george, but never casey.

Also, if she was found alive, most of the arguments about the grandparents fall flat, it would prove they were right, she was alive/kidnapped whatever. [/*]

Good point, VC.

[CNTM]

Originally posted by sofiesmom
I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in someone's smell test either, but UT's Body Farm, a very sophisticated and respected entity tested air samples and found what they found. I find that to be compelling beyond reasonable doubt. [/*]

Agreed, their forensic tests are the proof I needed.

For Caylee :rose:

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Not proven what they smelled as far as I am concerned. I can wait for a trial and let whatever they say be proven. Reality IS a trial and proof.

I'm sure most people would rather find Caylee alive but it seems to me some also have an agenda with the hate they feel for Casey and/or Cindy and George and I do not understand that. These people are strangers to us and yet some can build up so much hate when we do not know all the facts or even if Caylee is dead or alive. [/*]

Fact:
Casey didn't report her missing daughter for 31 days and that was only at the insistance of Cindy

Fact:
Casey lied then and has continued to lie leading LE on a wild goose chase to hunt down imaginary kidnappers

Fact:
Cindy said the car smelled like a dead body, George said the car smelled of decomp, upon retrieving the car, they searched their own backyard for foul play

Fact:
Cindy has lied and backtracked on many of the statements she has made publicly in her quest to deflect the negative portrayal of Casey

Fact:
Cindy, George, Lee, and Casey have joined in any searches for their granddaughter

Fact:
The LE has stated not leaked that the Body Farm tests prove their was a dead body in the trunk of the car that Casey was driving.

Fact:
Common sense and logic say that Caylee is no longer living and all indications point to Casey as the reason.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO [/*]


I posted the message I answering anwering and it seems that it is ok for that poster to have an opinion praying for them to find a dead body but I can't post I would rather find an alvie child? You and they can believe anything you wish for but then so can I. BTW, Hope you feel better soon, it's not fun to be sick.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.




IMO [/*]


GREAT post ..but let me just add my 2 cents...

Why isn't CA walking every square inch of this earth searching for Caylee...? Why aren't they doing ANYTHING to HELP? I can understand not wanting to believe your daughter is a murderer ..but my GOD....what about CAYLEE?!

jmo

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Dead.................... but she is trying to find an alvie Caylle IMO. She is not my granddaughter and I too would rather spend some of the time and money trying to find her alive rather than dead. [/*]
If you believed your missing granddaugter were alive would you search for her? Would you be out physically driving around, searching for her? The fact is this family has not looked past the telephone THEY say that tips are coming in from. Why haven't they looked for her, instead of rudely demanding the public get off their *** and find Caylee for them?

[Yankeemama]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


When was the trial that it was proven there was a dead body in the trunk? [/*]

The trial doesn't prove there's a dead body, the evidence does! And so far, the evidence has shown there was a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. That was a direct quote from LE .. not an assumption from anyone else.

We all would so love to be feasting on crow at tonight's dinner .. but the cards seem stacked against that.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Fact:
Casey didn't report her missing daughter for 31 days and that was only at the insistance of Cindy

Fact:
Casey lied then and has continued to lie leading LE on a wild goose chase to hunt down imaginary kidnappers

Fact:
Cindy said the car smelled like a dead body, George said the car smelled of decomp, upon retrieving the car, they searched their own backyard for foul play

Fact:
Cindy has lied and backtracked on many of the statements she has made publicly in her quest to deflect the negative portrayal of Casey

Fact:
Cindy, George, Lee, and Casey have joined in any searches for their granddaughter

Fact:
The LE has stated not leaked that the Body Farm tests prove their was a dead body in the trunk of the car that Casey was driving.

Fact:
Common sense and logic say that Caylee is no longer living and all indications point to Casey as the reason. [/*]

Well darn, why on earth are we wasting so much money on courts, judges and juries when all we need are message boards to determine the facts by listening to sound bites in the media. :rolleyes:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



I posted the message I answering anwering and it seems that it is ok for that poster to have an opinion praying for them to find a dead body but I can't post I would rather find an alvie child? You and they can believe anything you wish for but then so can I. BTW, Hope you feel better soon, it's not fun to be sick. [/*]

You can have your opinion and belief and are free to post it here, but to argue and chide everyone else about theirs is just not very nice. We all have our personal feelings and I'd bet Grannies egg money, that we all have a few differences in them.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by ChloeRN

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How do you know they were crazy about Caylee? It has'nt been proven in a court of law. [/*]

And that's the truth!!!!
:beer:

[Sioux_girl]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I don't think that home is a healthy or safe environment for ANY child, most especially Caylee, who Cindy and Casey have apparently deemed "disposeable". JMO.

I am so so so proud of the people from this MB who met up and searched yesterday, my heart just swells with pride. To think that people actually drove 8 and 12 hours to get there, well, thats just so so special it brings tears to my eyes. [/*]

And yet her family wont give these people anything that might help to find her :flamemad:

[SavannahStar]

Bringing this over from last night, hoping TPP will see it:

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


The Anthony's mailbox is affixed outside nearest to the front door, directly above their street address number. You can clearly see it in several of the photos:

136 photo gallery

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery [/*]

TPP, this morning I did have a chance to look at the pics. 57 in particular, that shows I think what you are saying is the mailbox. No, that's not. That is a "doorbell box" ..... don't know if that is the right terminology though, it's the box where the chimes mechanism for the doorbell is held. Look at the height of it, compared to the people in the pic. That is no mailbox. Where's the flag to show you have mail to be picked up?

I've lived in FL for almost 25 years and most all of the mailboxes I've seen are, as I said last night, at the street. And, as I indicated, since I didn't see theirs on the webcam, it is probably across the street from them. Mailboxes are not always on the same side of the street as the house. Postal workers here in FL don't get out of their trucks to take the mail up to the house, they ride along the street and put the mail in the box right as they are sitting in their truck.

[Velouria]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, "There you go again." :rolleyes:

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Well darn, why on earth are we wasting so much money on courts, judges and juries when all we need are message boards to determine the facts by listening to sound bites in the media. :rolleyes: [/*]

These facts don't just come from Cindy and Georges mouths, Read the documents that LE released... you'll find facts in them.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Yankeemama


The trial doesn't prove there's a dead body, the evidence does! And so far, the evidence has shown there was a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. That was a direct quote from LE .. not an assumption from anyone else.

We all would so love to be feasting on crow at tonight's dinner .. but the cards seem stacked against that. [/*]There is no evidence until it is admitted into trial under oath and cross examined.

You have never heard "direct quotes" from LE that were later proven to not be true? Do a search and you will learn LE CAN and DO lie to get the suspect to confess.

[n/t]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Dead.................... but she is trying to find an alvie Caylle IMO. She is not my granddaughter and I too would rather spend some of the time and money trying to find her alive rather than dead. [/*]

Maybe you can tell us how the Anthonys are doing that because I haven't seen anything mentioned about them looking for Caylee. As a matter of fact, Cindy told US to look for her. I won't even quote her because I thought it was the most vile thing to say at her granddaughter's vigil.

Have they followed up on any of the thousands leads they've gotten? If Caylee is in PR or Mexico or wherever they think she may be, why didn't one of them hop on a plane and go get her? Why didn't one of them go to Texas if that tip was so credible?

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I do not know because I have never had a missing granchild. IMO no one can say how they would act or what they would do in a given situation until we are actually in that situation. We may think we would act differently but I'm sure the family knows more than we do and they may know she really is alive and are so frustrtated because they can't find her. [/*]
Then why not cooperate with police and make an effort to bring her home???? cooperatrion or lack of has played a very big part in this case.mo
So you think le should just bow out and let the Anthony family search on there own?hmmmm.

[WinnieLeigh7]

okay, i was devil's advocate yesterday, today i'm just going to be the 'witch', with the other spelling....

while i love a good debate and am fascinated with others opinions, whether they agree with my own or not...
i find the 'nick picking' agruements that occur on this board sometimes just irritating beyond all get out.

you can respectfully disagree, you can debate without nickpicking fighting.

and i find that usually the ones--and i'm narrowing it to 'the ones' because while all of us disagree at some point, there seem to be a few that's always going to 'stir the pot'---anyway, the ones that are doing this will also be the first ones that jump into 'what are you doing to find caylee' mode...and i just want to scream.
they are also the ones that will say ''those childish protestors''
i mean how contradicting...

and i'm not stating this for anything at the moment, it's just been on my mind with past postings, bans, etc. i'm sure you all understand the things i'm referring to..

depsite your believes of what you believe has happened to caylee, how about think of it in one of two ways...

she's alive, and while young, one day will catch onto her story and research it...only to find these ''disagreements'' to say it nicely---too nicely
or she's not alive and she's watching from above and seeing it already...

either way, do you think this is what she wants.



i'll be the first to admit, casey anthony is beyond likeable in my book, and down right hated to tell the truth. i don't believe anything in the world will ever change those feelings unless she has one remarkable story that ends up being proved truthful, though it's more than the mind could imagine and results in a alive and safe caylee.
i'll also admit that while a part of me really feels sorry for the grandparents, i just can't get passed their many contradicting and just outragous statements and even more unimaginable behaviors, some of which even grief and/or denial can not excuse.

and while i'd like nothing more than to be proved wrong, i'll even swallow my pride and travel my butt to fl to offer a personal face to face apology to the anthony's should that be the case...
i don't believe caylee is coming 'home', not alive.

i'm not even confident that her body will come home, although i admire tim and tes and 100 percent stand behind their determination, i believe the entire group of searchers are earth bound angels...
caylee just an angel.

it's just not realistic in my opinion to state that 'leaks' aren't facts, although le has admitted to the results that confirm decomposition.
it's not realistic to think they are still considering caylee only missing, when they've stated they believe she is dead
it's not realistic to think that because only prelim' results have been spoken of that that's all they have, especially when they've admitted that they have other evidence.
yes, they are 'prelim' results, but do you really except them to change in the final results

it's been obvious to me that from day one the le has believed what a majority of us believe...from the 'trial' pond diving, to the 'interview' at universals that was released.

and beyond all that...
due to a mother who never reports her child missing and only admits to such after a month of partying.

it's just not realistic.

but that's my opinion, feel free to have your own, not that you need my permission...

but i just needed to get that out.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
okay, i was devil's advocate yesterday, today i'm just going to be the 'witch', with the other spelling....

while i love a good debate and am fascinated with others opinions, whether they agree with my own or not...
i find the 'nick picking' agruements that occur on this board sometimes just irritating beyond all get out.

you can respectfully disagree, you can debate without nickpicking fighting.

and i find that usually the ones--and i'm narrowing it to 'the ones' because while all of us disagree at some point, there seem to be a few that's always going to 'stir the pot'---anyway, the ones that are doing this will also be the first ones that jump into 'what are you doing to find caylee' mode...and i just want to scream.
they are also the ones that will say ''those childish protestors''
i mean how contradicting...

and i'm not stating this for anything at the moment, it's just been on my mind with past postings, bans, etc. i'm sure you all understand the things i'm referring to..

depsite your believes of what you believe has happened to caylee, how about think of it in one of two ways...

she's alive, and while young, one day will catch onto her story and research it...only to find these ''disagreements'' to say it nicely---too nicely
or she's not alive and she's watching from above and seeing it already...

either way, do you think this is what she wants.



i'll be the first to admit, casey anthony is beyond likeable in my book, and down right hated to tell the truth. i don't believe anything in the world will ever change those feelings unless she has one remarkable story that ends up being proved truthful, though it's more than the mind could imagine and results in a alive and safe caylee.
i'll also admit that while a part of me really feels sorry for the grandparents, i just can't get passed their many contradicting and just outragous statements and even more unimaginable behaviors, some of which even grief and/or denial can not excuse.

and while i'd like nothing more than to be proved wrong, i'll even swallow my pride and travel my butt to fl to offer a personal face to face apology to the anthony's should that be the case...
i don't believe caylee is coming 'home', not alive.

i'm not even confident that her body will come home, although i admire tim and tes and 100 percent stand behind their determination, i believe the entire group of searchers are earth bound angels...
caylee just an angel.

it's just not realistic in my opinion to state that 'leaks' aren't facts, although le has admitted to the results that confirm decomposition.
it's not realistic to think they are still considering caylee only missing, when they've stated they believe she is dead
it's not realistic to think that because only prelim' results have been spoken of that that's all they have, especially when they've admitted that they have other evidence.
yes, they are 'prelim' results, but do you really except them to change in the final results

it's been obvious to me that from day one the le has believed what a majority of us believe...from the 'trial' pond diving, to the 'interview' at universals that was released.

and beyond all that...
due to a mother who never reports her child missing and only admits to such after a month of partying.

it's just not realistic.

but that's my opinion, feel free to have your own, not that you need my permission...

but i just needed to get that out. [/*]

You're not a witch WinnieLeigh, you are just saying what lots of people feel too! :seeya:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

Then why not cooperate with police and make an effoert to bring her home???? cooperatrion or lack of has played a very big part in this case.mo
So you think le should just bow out and let the Anthony family search on there own?hmmmm [/*]

LE "said" the grandparents were co-operating. Huh, where did i say LE should bow out?:shrug:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose: [/*]

Thank you bluwaters! :rose:

[Snuggles]

Fortunately I do not know about having a missing child for any length of time, but I cry at the drop of a hat, and he is my life, so I am sure that I would be devestated. I cannot say for the Anthony's, but I can assure you that I would not be as cold or emotionless as Casey. I freak out when I cannot find him in a store, even just for a moment!!!!

[Velouria]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
okay, i was devil's advocate yesterday, today i'm just going to be the 'witch', with the other spelling....

while i love a good debate and am fascinated with others opinions, whether they agree with my own or not...
i find the 'nick picking' agruements that occur on this board sometimes just irritating beyond all get out.

you can respectfully disagree, you can debate without nickpicking fighting.

<rest of post respectfully snipped>
[/*]

Thank you Winnie...nicely put!

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


LE "said" the grandparents were co-operating. Huh, where did i say LE should bow out?:shrug: [/*]


How do we tell when LE is tellin the truth and when they're not?

[marshmallow]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I'm sure "some" in LE thinks she is dead and thought so from the very beginning. LE is not always right either you know. [/*]


"if" she is alive then it makes the lack of cooperation from her mother even more disgusting, in my own opinion.

[Yankeemama]

Originally posted by n/t

If Caylee is in PR or Mexico or wherever they think she may be, why didn't one of them hop on a plane and go get her? Why didn't one of them go to Texas if that tip was so credible? [/*]

Exactly. Instead of wasting the money to get a non-cooperative, lying and disrespectful Casey out of jail to sit at home on the internet and baking brownies .. totally USELESS in the search for Caylee .. why didn't they keep her in jail where she's safe and wouldn't attract a mob scene at their front door every day and use their resources to actually SEARCH for their granddaughter they claim they're so concerned about?

These people defy even the most basic form of humanity!

:flamemad:

[Velouria]

Originally posted by GrannyB



How do we tell when LE is tellin the truth and when they're not? [/*]

LOL

Guess they're only telling the truth when it's deemed favorable to the Anthonys. 'Nuff said!

[CNTM]

Originally posted by the breeze



I refuse to let you take this board down today.
We are all here for the same reason to find this child who so deserves to be found.
Dead or alive it's not in our hands it's in God's hands.
So please stop being ugly on a Sunday.
Feel free to post what you think but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
The only thing we all have in common is to bring this child home. [/*]

Well said, we need discussion, not argument. :seeya:

[ellegna]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Dead.................... but she is trying to find an alvie Caylle IMO. She is not my granddaughter and I too would rather spend some of the time and money trying to find her alive rather than dead. [/*]

She is? :confused:

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by GrannyB



How do we tell when LE is tellin the truth and when they're not? [/*]

When the LE's statements fit into "those posters" beliefs they are being honest, when their statements dispute their theories, then they're potentially lying to put pressure on the perps. moo

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB



How do we tell when LE is tellin the truth and when they're not? [/*]

We can't and that is why I put the "said" in quotes.

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by the breeze



I refuse to let you take this board down today.
We are all here for the same reason to find this child who so deserves to be found.
Dead or alive it's not in our hands it's in God's hands.
So please stop being ugly on a Sunday.
Feel free to post what you think but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
The only thing we all have in common is to bring this child home. [/*]
Well said...

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


When the LE's statements fit into "those posters" beliefs they are being honest, when their statements dispute their theories, then they're potentially lying to put pressure on the perps. moo [/*]

Wrong, notice I put "said" in quotes because we do not know when any of them are being truthful .:rolleyes:

[sofiesmom]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Well darn, why on earth are we wasting so much money on courts, judges and juries when all we need are message boards to determine the facts by listening to sound bites in the media. :rolleyes: [/*]cutie posted FACTS. Some things ARE facts, not just suppositions derived from sound bites.

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by ellegna


She is? :confused: [/*]

No ellegna, she's not. Cindy is not trying to find Caylee at all, she's not looked for an alive Caylee nevermind a deceased Caylee. All the family's efforts have been to support Casey and to portray her as "mother of the year". Casey has been the Anthony family priority from day 2 of this nightmare, Caylee has been lost in so many ways....:(

[CNTM]

O/T "Hurricane Ike's damage to islands 'is pretty huge'
Hurricane Ike's high wind and intense rain moved over the Turks and Caicos Islands today as the Category 4 storm followed a track that should take it to eastern Cuba by this evening. "The damage is pretty huge," a reporter in Grand Turk said. Residents of the Florida Keys were ordered to evacuate this morning; tourists were told to leave Saturday. full story"
www.cnn.com

Adding a prayer here for those of you in the path of this incredible storm! :rose:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by the breeze



Do you no where the gun was found? I was sick yesterday and didnt get on much i think i read somewhere in the tire:shrug: If so why would he have put it there and why did he even have a gun in his car knowing that Casey wasn't suppose to be near one......thanks [/*]

The gun was found in the wheel well in George's trunk. As ex LE, he still has his firearms and says he forgot it was in there.

[Snuggles]

GrandmaGA no one was trying to be offensive, and everyone is here because they care! I think there has been enough bickering, and we all wish she was alive, not everyone believes she is, and that is okay. I for one do not hold out much hope that she is alive, although I wish, and am praying differently. I have prayed for this child, and will continue to do so alive, dead, etc... Please let us get to discussing this case more. There are so many twists and turns that I am confused. Everyone hug your children/grandchildren/friends/family today... Tell them all that you love and appreciate them, and always keep Caylee in your prayers:rose:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by the breeze



I refuse to let you take this board down today.
We are all here for the same reason to find this child who so deserves to be found.
Dead or alive it's not in our hands it's in God's hands.
So please stop being ugly on a Sunday.
Feel free to post what you think but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
The only thing we all have in common is to bring this child home. [/*]

Sorry if you think other opinions or finding a alive Caylle is "ugly" and that is how all this started.

WHERE did I EVER expect anyone to agree with me? I don't. I understand the hate that has built up for this family and it is no skin off my nose.

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by CNTM


The gun was found in the wheel well in George's trunk. As ex LE, he still has his firearms and says he forgot it was in there. [/*]

What an odd place for a gun though. Not likely to be much help there is it? At least it was far from Caylee's little hands though...

[MissouriGMom]

Originally posted by Yankeemama


Exactly. Instead of wasting the money to get a non-cooperative, lying and disrespectful Casey out of jail to sit at home on the internet and baking brownies .. totally USELESS in the search for Caylee .. why didn't they keep her in jail where she's safe and wouldn't attract a mob scene at their front door every day and use their resources to actually SEARCH for their granddaughter they claim they're so concerned about?

These people defy even the most basic form of humanity!

:flamemad: [/*]

ITA I woke up very angry this morning. The entire Anthony family needs to start telling the truth, but they won't. That's what makes me soooo mad! Sorry, but this case is so frustrating.

For Caylee :rose:

[trich]

Yes we are a messge board ...everyone posts their opinions and suggestions and ideas....we are all entitled to but we don't need to be accused of wishing Caylee dead rather then alive.
As I said before we all would love to be wrong and that Caylee was alive......but in saying that ...if she was alive I would be in mortal fear of what might be being done to that poor child.
I would be hiring a private detective to be checking all those so called places Cindy said she was instead of commiting the money to get my daughter out of jail.
Because if by the slim chance she is alive ....Casey is still responsible for her being gone....any other way you look at it she is responsible.
There is no way I would let someone take my child and not go report it immediately to the police.
No matter what the kidnappers said.

[day2day]

Originally posted by the breeze



I agree i would walk the face of the earth to find this child.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiQK700P8nM
Caylee we love you:rose: [/*]

Thank you breeze. This breaks my heart...but we should NEVER forget this littleone...and you are right Caylee is loved by so many people who never even got the chance to hug her ...or hear her laugh :(...

:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by the breeze



I refuse to let you take this board down today.
We are all here for the same reason to find this child who so deserves to be found.
Dead or alive it's not in our hands it's in God's hands.
So please stop being ugly on a Sunday.
Feel free to post what you think but don't expect everyone to agree with you.
The only thing we all have in common is to bring this child home. [/*]

95% of posts on here so far are responding to her though. No one can take the board down without everyone's cooperation in that endeavor. :)

[CNTM]

Originally posted by Snuggles


What an odd place for a gun though. Not likely to be much help there is it? At least it was far from Caylee's little hands though... [/*]

My guess is her safety is the reason it was there too. Little hands pry in all kinds of hidden areas in the house.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Snuggles
GrandmaGA no one was trying to be offensive, and everyone is here because they care! I think there has been enough bickering, and we all wish she was alive, not everyone believes she is, and that is okay. I for one do not hold out much hope that she is alive, although I wish, and am praying differently. I have prayed for this child, and will continue to do so alive, dead, etc... Please let us get to discussing this case more. There are so many twists and turns that I am confused. Everyone hug your children/grandchildren/friends/family today... Tell them all that you love and appreciate them, and always keep Caylee in your prayers:rose: [/*]

Finding Caylee is the case IMO. The twists and turns of the case will never be figured out until leaks and rumors stop and evidence is presented in court IMO but discuss away, I am not stopping anyone.

to all grandparents out there..........Happy Grandparents Day!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by chrissybot


True that. And I for one trust LE since they are the only ones who have told the truth in this whole case!-IMO [/*]

Such a good post Chris!! LE is not lying about evidence or rushing to judgement in this case. Your point about all the lies coming from the anthonys is spot on. There is only one reason to lie about a missing child and that is because there is something to hide.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by CNTM
I noticed that the boards will be down some tomorrow for upgrades. Is there an alternate site for discussion, should anything be breaking news? :shrug:

I will PM you some info

:seeya:

[day2day]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose: [/*]

Thank you blue..my candle is lit!:rose:

[CNTM]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


95% of posts on here so far are responding to her though. No one can take the board down without everyone's cooperation in that endeavor. :) [/*]

Thank you for the reminder! We do tend to get riled up and post when we should "Iggie"! :seeya:

[day2day]

Originally posted by Postergeist


I will PM you some info

:seeya: [/*]

could you please pm me also? Thanks Postie!

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by marshmallow



"if" she is alive then it makes the lack of cooperation from her mother even more disgusting, in my own opinion. [/*]

Absolutely! Let's say for one nano-second that we believe them and she is with someone else and they took her from Casey. No matter what they say, I have seen not one shred of evidence that they are following up on Cindy's "supposed" leads, going to Texas, Mexico or PR to follow up on that, etc. They sit in the house and once a week hold a vigil where she tells everyone else to get off their azzzz's and find her granddaughter.

And meanwhile, her mother partied, lied and to this day refuses to tell LE the facts of what happened. That all in itself is reprehensible. Conclusion? They all know and/or participated in her death. I say death because there is no earthly alternative as to who the dead body was in Casey's trunk than her missing daughter. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out. JMHO

[SandyO]

Originally posted by the breeze



Do you no where the gun was found? I was sick yesterday and didnt get on much i think i read somewhere in the tire:shrug: If so why would he have put it there and why did he even have a gun in his car knowing that Casey wasn't suppose to be near one......thanks [/*]

I think that George stored the gun in his wheel well thinking that was far enough away from Casey and not in his home. He was wrong about that, but folks give George too much credit for knowledge of the laws. Some think he was a "homocide detective" some twenty odd years ago, but I believe he was a Sheriff's Deputy, something like a Barney Fife.

[CNTM]

Originally posted by Postergeist


I will PM you some info

:seeya: [/*]

Thank you! :seeya:

[bluwaters]

Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story

Orange County investigators have suggested in recent weeks that missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie Anthony may be dead.
But can they prove it?

Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story



Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html [/*]

That is pretty sick, the tourist part, why would you want a picture of her? Goodness people are odd!

[CNTM]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story



Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html [/*]

Oh good Lord! That is not an image I want in my camera!

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by trich
Yes we are a messge board ...everyone posts their opinions and suggestions and ideas....we are all entitled to but we don't need to be accused of wishing Caylee dead rather then alive.
As I said before we all would love to be wrong and that Caylee was alive......but in saying that ...if she was alive I would be in mortal fear of what might be being done to that poor child.
I would be hiring a private detective to be checking all those so called places Cindy said she was instead of commiting the money to get my daughter out of jail.
Because if by the slim chance she is alive ....Casey is still responsible for her being gone....any other way you look at it she is responsible.
There is no way I would let someone take my child and not go report it immediately to the police.
No matter what the kidnappers said. [/*]

I accused no one of anything, I reposted a message that said because of that posters beliefs she was praying for them to find Cayless's little body. I did not stop her from posting that, I simply said I would rather pray for an alvie Caylee. Geez, so sorry if so many of you think it is wrong for praying for something postivie rather than negative but just as I don't agree with that poster, none of you have to agree with me? End of story.

[GrannyB]

GrandmaGA..........Happy Grandparents Day!:seeya:

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


LE "said" the grandparents were co-operating. Huh, where did i say LE should bow out?:shrug: [/*]
I asked you a question "do you think le should bow out and let Anthonys do there own search? If you read that you will see a ?????????????? behind it.I wont take your bait gradma.I do not noramlly even post only read but I felt I have as much right to an opinion as any others on the board.I however will leave as I dont like to stir the pot.Good day grandma.mo

[ccat]

Since it has been said that they are going to search in the backyard again, I wonder if the GPs were really burying Caylee instead of looking in the backyard as was said. I wonder this because if your grand daughter was missing, why would you assume she is buried in the backyard?

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by GrannyB
GrandmaGA..........Happy Grandparents Day!:seeya: [/*]

Thank you, I have 13 grandchildren and will be with most of them this afternoon/evening. So sad Cindy and George can't be with their granddaughter today.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by the breeze



I didn't relize it was Grandparents Day hey i am raiseing 3 let me get them up and remind them what day it is:D [/*]

:lol:

Happy Grandparents Day to all grannies and grampies!

:rose:

[Chillin]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I accused no one of anything, I reposted a message that said because of that posters beliefs she was praying for them to find Cayless's little body. I did not stop her from posting that, I simply said I would rather pray for an alvie Caylee. Geez, so sorry if so many of you think it is worng for praying for something postivie rather than negative but just as I don't agree with that poster, none of you have to agree with me? End of story. [/*]

Prayer is always welcome as far as I am concerned. Just in this case my prayer is going to finding her lil body. I believe in my heart that the forensics is right and lil Caylee is in heaven.

I believe in miracles and if an alive Caylee is found I will be right along side of everyone else rejoicing in the miracle. I just dont see that happening.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story



Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html [/*]

omgosh are you kidding me

okay, see this riles me up...

i mean if you're going to be a ''rubber necker'' and travel just to get 'glimpses' at least do something productive at the same time...

go search...go take the searchers already there some water or snacks...

something

and see, this is what even gets me about the protestors

and for the record, i'm not against protesting, i stand behind 'standing for what you believe 100 percent''

BUT before i see you standing outside the anthony's at night, facing the cameras with your signs...

at least be able to tell me that in the daylight you were out there searching.

[jammies]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Dead.................... but she is trying to find an alvie Caylle IMO. She is not my granddaughter and I too would rather spend some of the time and money trying to find her alive rather than dead. [/*]


I must have missed where the GP's flew to Mexico and PR to look for their granddaughter?????

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



I posted the message I answering anwering and it seems that it is ok for that poster to have an opinion praying for them to find a dead body but I can't post I would rather find an alvie child? You and they can believe anything you wish for but then so can I. BTW, Hope you feel better soon, it's not fun to be sick. [/*]

I'm happy to see you agree that we can believe anything we wish! I hope you really mean it, and we won't be accused of wanting to do away with the court system for trials, or wanting to find Caylee dead more than wanting to find her alive.

I sure hope Caylee is found SOON, whether she's alive or dead!

[ellegna]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


95% of posts on here so far are responding to her though. No one can take the board down without everyone's cooperation in that endeavor. :) [/*]

You are absolutely right and I am guilty
:punch:

[day2day]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


95% of posts on here so far are responding to her though. No one can take the board down without everyone's cooperation in that endeavor. :) [/*]

Very wise words Savannah....Thank you! :seeya:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

I asked you a question "do you think le should bow out and let Anthonys do there own search? If you read that you will see a ?????????????? behind it.I wont take your bait gradma.I do not noramlly even post only read but I felt I have as much right to an opinion as any others on the board.I however will leave as I dont like to stir the pot.Good day grandma.mo [/*]

No i don't think LE should bow out but I also do not think they should leak. :seeya:

[marshmallow]

I think the thing that frustrates me the most, other than the missing child, is the family's inclination to complain abouyt others not looking for her alive yet not being forthcoming with the information they claim to have, that would help us locate her. Vague references to supposed sites she could be, lack of description of the alleged kidnapper/nanny/nanny's sister and their vehicle, statements about knowing the real truth yet not sharing any of it, along with the coments that we should be looking yet, they aren't giving us any specfic info. to work with.

Those are all pieces needed to solve this puzzle. They family has hinted at and even made statements about those pieces of info yet they won't give any of it to anyone to go looking.

I guess to me that sends a mixed message. For example, a type of "we know who has her and where she is but we're going to make you look without telling you"

I too would love to wake up one morning and hear that she's been found happily playing with the sitters nieces and nephews but as each day goes by I become more convinced that won't happen.
My hope used to be like a bonfire, now it's down to a birthday candle. The actions and words of the people who should want this child returned are what's caused my change of heart, the evidence suggested by LE and the experts only strengthens that sadness.

Like all the others here, I don't hope she's dead. I only hope that IF she is, her body can be found and her life respectfully mourned. It will hurt the Grandparents to know she's passed buut it will hurt them so much more if they cannot have that closure.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by ccat
Since it has been said that they are going to search in the backyard again, I wonder if the GPs were really burying Caylee instead of looking in the backyard as was said. I wonder this because if your grand daughter was missing, why would you assume she is buried in the backyard? [/*]

Its my belief the body was never buried in the backyard but maybe clothing contaminated with the decomp was.

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by ccat
Since it has been said that they are going to search in the backyard again, I wonder if the GPs were really burying Caylee instead of looking in the backyard as was said. I wonder this because if your grand daughter was missing, why would you assume she is buried in the backyard? [/*]

Exactly... What motivated them to search their own backyard when Caylee hadn't been at the house in over 30 days? I wonder if there wasn't a foul odor in the backyard prior to all the happenings on July 15. Perhaps they just couldn't pinpoint what the smell was, but after retrieving the car, they recognized the odor from the backyard?

[CNTM]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


:lol:

Happy Grandparents Day to all grannies and grampies!

:rose: [/*]

Happy Grandparents Day y'all! I have 3!

[desmom]

Good Morning All!

IMO, George and Cindy have suspected for some time something bad has happened to Caylee because of their attempts to discredit LE and through the investigation off track.

Cindy ranted the car sat for 2 days in front of their house before LE took possession of the car. The 400+ pages of document show LE arrested Casey at 16:33 on 7/16. The car was taken into their custody at 17:30 p.m. on 7/16.

Cindy told the media she had informed LE when they arrived at their home on 7/15 she had removed a pair of pants from the car and washed them. She said the pants sat on Casey's bed for several days before she finally put them away. In the 8/05/08 search warrant, we learn LE was told about the pants in an interview with Cindy on 8/04/08.

George filed a police report about the shed break in and missing gas cans on 6/24. He told the media the cans had been returned and they had been taken by a neighbor. Then on Greta's show he admits Casey took the cans and he found them in her trunk the afternoon of 6/24.

Casey's family said she was afraid to tell where Caylee was because she feared for her safety and her family's safety. Yet,
in mid August, George told the media the kidnappers " are under surveillance" and they "know they are being watched. They know it." http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html

The family mentioned several times the letter Casey was writing while in jail that contained clues and even went as far as to say the letter had been given to her attorney. Her attorney denies such letter exists and he never asked for such a letter. I believe her attorney because I cannot imagine any attorney asking their client to write a letter with clues while in jail.


jmo

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by n/t


Great news for Tim and the searchers!

Morning all! :seeya:

Scampi, I don't get why they had to install a surveillance camera considering media is parked out there and no doubt LE is SURVEILLING their home!!

But whatever.....:rolleyes: [/*]

Morning n/t!! I think the anthonys have a bunker mentality now and the camera is there so they can view anyone who broaches their perimeter.

Thank God LE got that gun out of there, I just hope george doesn't have another one hidden away.

I can just see them in that home. george scoping out the surveillance camera and cindy and casey working on the screenplay for the production company and deciding who in Hollywood will portray them in the future Lifetime movie.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


95% of posts on here so far are responding to her though. No one can take the board down without everyone's cooperation in that endeavor. :) [/*]

Thanks for the reminder! :seeya:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by jammies



I must have missed where the GP's flew to Mexico and PR to look for their granddaughter????? [/*]

Maybe you did. I know I am not with them 24/7. How many times have people on the board asked..........where is Geroge, where is Lee? Just maybe thery were flying to other places looking or checking out leads.

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by bluwaters




Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom

http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html [/*]

Good grief..

This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night.

[bluwaters]

Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story?page=2

This article is a must read for all on the board!!!

It is very interesting. The article is about other murder cases in FL that have been successfully prosecuted without a body.
It is sadly likely that this could be the case in Caylee's disappearance.

[MissouriGMom]

Originally posted by CNTM


Happy Grandparents Day y'all! I have 3! [/*]

Same to you! I also have 3.

Dane, Sophie and Lyric, Grandma loves you!

[Chillin]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Maybe you did. I know I am not with them 24/7. How many times have people on the board asked..........where is Geroge, where is Lee? Just maybe thery were flying to other places looking or checking out leads. [/*]

Only leads that crew is checking into in my opinion is ways to keep casey out of jail and ways to pee off Tim so he will stop searching.

[CNTM]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story?page=2

This article is a must read for all on the board!!!

It is very interesting. The article is about other murder cases in FL that have been successfully prosecuted without a body.
It is sadly likely that this could be the case in Caylee's disappearance. [/*]

Excellent article! Thank you bluwaters! Bookmarked it for future reference.

[Velouria]

Originally posted by Snuggles


That is pretty sick, the tourist part, why would you want a picture of her? Goodness people are odd! [/*]

I agree Snuggles. And more people dragging their kids along to see the commotion. Bizarre.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning friends. So, accoding to Kakax's post -

My Fox Orlando at 10

Anthony's installed a surveillance camera outside of their front door.

Well, this assures us that more then likely there will be more then one moon appearing at night around the anthony home. [/*]Morning, Reggie. :seeya:

Heh...Lenny replaced by a surveillance camera...

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


I dont think anyone would rather find a "body" as opposed to a live child Cindy, but the facts have been established that there is evidence of a decomposing body in the trunk of the car. And no, there are not dead bodies laying around to be placed in the car then removed in a secured tow yard. Evidence of Chloroform in the trunk of the car and evidence of a search for this chemical in Caseys personal computer. Evidence of Caylees personal items that would normally be with the child in the trunk of the car. Evidence of the childs mother out partying while said child was missing. Evidence of repeated lying not just to investigaters but to friends and family, not just where the child is but to employment, funds, housing. Evidence of indifference of suffering caused to her family and neighbors by her actions. In my opinion, you are in denial as to the harm she has caused. Is it acceptable to you, that she has proven she neglected/endangered her child and stole from her family and friends and just smiles through it all? Perhaps that could be the reason unfortunately so many believe little Caylee is no longer among the living :shrug:

edit to add if I said Cindy I meant GrandmaGA. [/*]


You did not mean anything by calling me Cindy except to prove your lack of maturity. Grow up. :rolleyes:

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Such a good post Chris!! LE is not lying about evidence or rushing to judgement in this case. Your point about all the lies coming from the anthonys is spot on. There is only one reason to lie about a missing child and that is because there is something to hide. [/*]

agree 100%:beer:

[joolz]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Believe what you will but your "beliefs" don't make facts. Forensics have proven nothing as we have not seen those forensics nor has there been a trial to prove anything. So far the forensics are just leaks. You pray for a body, I will pray for an alive littte girl.

I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. :shrug: [/*]

No one would "rather" find a body. Some of us do not believe she is alive. That doesn't mean we hope she's dead. AS YOU WELL KNOW.

Stop twisting words. Your weak jabs at other posters and your efforts to stir up trouble are transparent. Try saying something constructive or positive once in awhile - if you know how. JMO of course.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Chillin


Its my belief the body was never buried in the backyard but maybe clothing contaminated with the decomp was. [/*]

Or Chloroform bottles? JMO

[2lakes]

Originally posted by SwFlorida


Good grief..

This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night. [/*]

When I saw the video of Casey being released from jail for the second time it reminded me of a celebrity with the paparatzzi. Honestly I think she is relishing in the attention....

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Postergeist


I will PM you some info

:seeya: [/*]


:( pout!

[Velouria]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Thank God LE got that gun out of there, I just hope george doesn't have another one hidden away.

[/*]

I'm glad you brought up the subject of the gun, Regina. Any speculation as to who tipped off LE?

Personally, I'm leaning toward Lee as the tipster. I think he may have been afraid his father would do something desperate. If anyone should be on suicide watch, it isn't Casey.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by joolz


No one would "rather" find a body. Some of us do not believe she is alive. That doesn't mean we hope she's dead. AS YOU WELL KNOW.

Stop twisting words. Your weak jabs at other posters and your efforts to stir up trouble are transparent. Try saying something constructive or positive once in awhile - if you know how. JMO of course. [/*]

Once again, I was replying to another posters message because I said I would rather them find an alvie Caylee.

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*]

[Kathlb]

While I don't know for sure that I am a believer, but I am keeping an open mind, and while I abhor the psychic that we all saw recently trying to gain fame, I have seen other psychics on shows that have actually solved cases by finding missing bodies.

Sheriff's Dept.s have born this up by stating that they were skeptical but allowed them in to search and went with them and they actually found the bodies and pointed out the killers. At this point I would surely not rule any help out if those psychics who are quietly working in the background and not looking for fame would work with LE also. All avenues from Tim on out would be welcomed if I were investigating.

Tim is an awesome man with a heart as big as Texas. His unfailing energy and dedication to help others is legendary and I am humbled by his devotion to parents and people everywhere who have lost a loved one.

For Tim and Caylee :rose: :rose:

[Kathlb]

Happy Grandparent's Day to all who are in that special category. I have two precious ones. :D :rose:

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA



An alive Caylee, not a "little body". [/*]


I think all of us would like to find Caylee alive. No one on here wants her to be dead, but it has been three months and there has not been any proof that Caylee is still with us. People can't just look for a live Caylee because if we do that and do not also search for her remains, three months have already gone by, and each day that goes by makes it even more difficult and doubtful that if Caylee is deceased, her body will be found.

Can you tell me why the babysitter wanted to kidnap Caylee. The parents do not have money. A child costs money to take care of. If Caylee is alive and someone has her, there have been numerous opportunity for someone to return her, no questions asked, and collect the reward - $225,000. The kidnapping spin does not add up.

Do you believe that Casey was given a script to follow for thirty days! "Here is your script Casey, go out and party, spend time with your boyfriend, carry on like nothing has happened". I believe 99% of the mothers out there would have turned around and ran to LE, no matter what threats they would have received.

Do you truthfully feel that "IF" Caylee was found alive people would be "unhappy"? We would love to find Caylee alive, but it hasn't happened yet. Do you feel that we should only look for a live Caylee. If her body is out there, don't we owe it to that little angel to still find her and bring her the peaceful burial she deserves, instead of never being found and leaving her remains to be forgotten .

This is just IMO, I am sad and heartbroken over what may have happened to this little angel.

Thank you to all of Caylle's angels, Tim Miller, the searchers, LE and all of the posters that want to bring Caylee home. She is in our thoughts, prayers and hearts. :rose:

[spageddy]

About those tourists: I think when I'm watching the web cam, I'm in the same boat as they are- just maybe a bit more discreet.
But I don't think I'd want to pose for photos. But I do wonder why that web-cam is sooo addicting.
And speaking of which: has anyone seen it today?

[CNTM]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

It's still on the final view from last night.

[jammies]

Originally posted by spageddy
About those tourists: I think when I'm watching the web cam, I'm in the same boat as they are- just maybe a bit more discreet.
But I don't think I'd want to pose for photos. But I do wonder why that web-cam is sooo addicting.
And speaking of which: has anyone seen it today? [/*]



It's still stuck.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Kathlb
Happy Grandparent's Day to all who are in that special category. I have two precious ones. :D :rose: [/*]

I am to young to be a granny..but look forward to the day i am. I lost my Granny..and miss her more than ever. If anyone needs to adopt a grandchild ..i'm available!!

My thoughts and prayers are with Tim and everyone who volunteers in the search today!

:rose:

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by spageddy
About those tourists: I think when I'm watching the web cam, I'm in the same boat as they are- just maybe a bit more discreet.
But I don't think I'd want to pose for photos. But I do wonder why that web-cam is sooo addicting.
And speaking of which: has anyone seen it today? [/*]


It seems to be stuck on last night. Bet that reporter is getting tired. ;-)

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Morning, Reggie. :seeya:

Heh...Lenny replaced by a surveillance camera... [/*]

Hiya Joanie!! I am probably naive but I still pay attention when Lenny spouts out some new info, like he did last night with Geraldo. He said this week LE would return and dig up the "slab." It will be interesting to see if this pans out.

Yesterday, I did hear a report that it turns out LE did take "evidence" of decomposition from the yard. I had never heard that before and I only heard it once yesterday. So, perhaps the report was wrong or I misheard, but I did find it interesting that now Lenny thinks LE will return to dig in the anthony yard. As with everything about this case: Time will tell.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by SwFlorida


Good grief..

This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night. [/*]

UGH! :mad:

[CNTM]

I have to leave for work, but all you Grandparents, have a wonderful day and hug all the babies twice!
Thanks for all the info. and discussion this morning! :seeya:

*walking out the door grumbling and threatening early retirement :cuss: *

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by MissouriGMom


Same to you! I also have 3.

Dane, Sophie and Lyric, Grandma loves you! [/*]

Your grandbabies have beautiful names! :seeya:

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by spageddy
About those tourists: I think when I'm watching the web cam, I'm in the same boat as they are- just maybe a bit more discreet.
But I don't think I'd want to pose for photos. But I do wonder why that web-cam is sooo addicting.
And speaking of which: has anyone seen it today? [/*]

It's WAY too addicting! I just wish it worked better. It's not showing the current action...it's still showing a shot from during the night sometime, when it was still dark outside.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I see the protesters were still pointing their signs at the web cam, and not the Anthony's house. :D

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert



:( pout! [/*]

I think you're already a member over there Scamp. :)

[CinTN]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning friends. So, accoding to Kakax's post -

My Fox Orlando at 10

Anthony's installed a surveillance camera outside of their front door.

Well, this assures us that more then likely there will be more then one moon appearing at night around the anthony home. [/*]

:lol:

:seeya: GOOD MORNING...

[deep*fear]

quote:Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I can't understand WHY anyone would rather find a body than a live child but to each his/her own. [/*]

I don't usually respond to you.

IF Cindy Anthony wanted Tim to look for an alive Caylee, she would have given him Caylee's pillow so that his SAR dogs could look for an alive Caylee.

Cindy did not give Tim anything of Caylees, therefore she does not want Caylee found.

Cindy does not want Caylee found, therefore she already knows what happened to her and is protecting Casey.

[JHP]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Once again, I was replying to another posters message because I said I would rather them find an alvie Caylee.

Originally posted by Chillin


Some of us dont believe she is alive. Forensics prove a dead body was in the trunk. So..I will agree and add my prayers that TES and the searchers find her little body. [/*] [/*]

I think just finding Caylee would be a step in the right direction. Where Caylee is, well it is what it is. No one on a message board can wish or hope for it to be different. At this point foul play in some sort has occured, be it a kidnapping, or unreported, covered up, death of a little girl.

JMO

[ChloeRN]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Maybe you did. I know I am not with them 24/7. How many times have people on the board asked..........where is Geroge, where is Lee? Just maybe thery were flying to other places looking or checking out leads. [/*]

Well, I don't know about you GrandmaGA, but I refuse to speculate about George and/or Lee's whereabouts without evidence proven in a court of law. End of story!

[ellegna]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story?page=2

This article is a must read for all on the board!!!

It is very interesting. The article is about other murder cases in FL that have been successfully prosecuted without a body.
It is sadly likely that this could be the case in Caylee's disappearance. [/*]

Last week on NG, one of the lawyers mentioned a case in Calif. Husband was arrested, tried and found guilty without his wife's body and very little evidence. IIRC after the verdict, the husband led LE to where her body was as part of a plea deal.
Anyone else recall?

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce



So much extra manpower by the police has been provided to protect the family and Casey in her comings and going to jail and to her attorneys office. Who reimburses the police department for this? In the case of the runaway bride, the amount was an enormous cost for the manpower used to solve her case and she had to reimburse them as part of her sentencing. Do you think the funds would come from an outside source like the bail or does the family have these resources? [/*]



hammer I agree totally with your post

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Hiya Joanie!! I am probably naive but I still pay attention when Lenny spouts out some new info, like he did last night with Geraldo. He said this week LE would return and dig up the "slab." It will be interesting to see if this pans out.

Yesterday, I did hear a report that it turns out LE did take "evidence" of decomposition from the yard. I had never heard that before and I only heard it once yesterday. So, perhaps the report was wrong or I misheard, but I did find it interesting that now Lenny thinks LE will return to dig in the anthony yard. As with everything about this case: Time will tell.
[/*]Oh, good grief! Didn't LE already check out the slab?

Lenny is beginning to grate on me. He comes up with as many theories as Cindy does.

I'm still waiting for the dumpster news that will "shock the world." imo

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce



So much extra manpower by the police has been provided to protect the family and Casey in her comings and going to jail and to her attorneys office. Who reimburses the police department for this? In the case of the runaway bride, the amount was an enormous cost for the manpower used to solve her case and she had to reimburse them as part of her sentencing. Do you think the funds would come from an outside source like the bail or does the family have these resources? [/*]

Why does it matter now? The focus is Caylle, not money IMO. I really don't think Caylee run away to avoid a marriage and because we do not know the details of who or why Casey really turned Caylee over to money should not be important. When she is found then the money can enter the picture and if reimbursment is called for let Casey and/or her family worry about it.

[MissouriGMom]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Your grandbabies have beautiful names! :seeya: [/*]

TY Savannah! My heart just aches for little Caylee. I don't know what I'd do if one of my beautiful grandbabies were missing. But I do know that if one of my daughters lied and lied like Casey, I would not be defending her. I've tried to cut the grandparents some slack, but no more. This charade needs to end!

[day2day]

Chuck Eddy, Caylee's great-uncle, said the past two months have been surreal, to say the least.

"You normally watch TV and see things going on about someone else," said Eddy, of Bob and Chuck Eddy Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep in Youngstown. "It doesn't seem real that that's your family."

According to Eddy, Casey and her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, originally are from Niles and moved to Orlando in 1989. Eddy's wife, Kathy, is George's sister. Casey's brother, Lee, also lives in Florida.

Eddy said George Anthony was a Trumbull County sheriff's deputy and retired from the department before moving to Orlando in 1989.

"He was a great sheriff's deputy and, I believe, a homicide detective," Eddy said.



http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021

IMO if George was a homicide detective. He knew EXACTLY what the smell was in her car. Hmmm...how could he deny it?! jmo

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by ChloeRN


Well, I don't know about you GrandmaGA, but I refuse to speculate about George and/or Lee's whereabouts without evidence proven in a court of law. End of story! [/*]

I see you would rather speculate they havne't done anything to find Caylee. That's fine, different opinions are what makes the world go round.

[spageddy]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Maybe you did. I know I am not with them 24/7. How many times have people on the board asked..........where is Geroge, where is Lee? Just maybe thery were flying to other places looking or checking out leads. [/*]

Good Point. I hope you're right. I have wondered where they have been & I hope you are right.
Happy Grandparents Day.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Thank you, I have 13 grandchildren and will be with most of them this afternoon/evening. So sad Cindy and George can't be with their granddaughter today. [/*]

13? WOW! That's quite a blessing.

If Caylee were to be found alive at this point, it wouldn't surprise me, considering everything that's gone on so far in this case, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic, jumping up and down that she didn't turn out to be yet another unfortunate statistic.

If we can't get a live Caylee though, I do pray they find her body for closure to all this mess, and that the person :rolleyes: who snuffed out her life far too soon is brought to justice. If for no other reason, so that this BS never happens again. I know that's wishful thinking on my part, as these things seem to become more and more common, but if it can prevent ONE child from being powerless and voiceless in the future...

I also see your point though, and agree a live Caylee should be in our prayers as well as a speedy outcome for this family met with a little grace and compassion.

:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by ellegna


Last week on NG, one of the lawyers mentioned a case in Calif. Husband was arrested, tried and found guilty without his wife's body and very little evidence. IIRC after the verdict, the husband led LE to where her body was as part of a plea deal.
Anyone else recall? [/*]

Hans Reiser.

[zinnia]

Quick thought; on whose property are the protestors sitting? I keep hearing on how the neighbors are tired of the circus and the disruption of their neighborhood but it strectches my imagination that ALL of these people-news, protestors-are crammed across the street on the sidewalk????
OK, the street is public unless you block it, sidewalks are public but I just wonder which neighbors are contributing to the chaos by letting people camp/sit/protest across the street.
Any thoughts??

For Caylee :rose:

[Carol25]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Exactly... What motivated them to search their own backyard when Caylee hadn't been at the house in over 30 days? I wonder if there wasn't a foul odor in the backyard prior to all the happenings on July 15. Perhaps they just couldn't pinpoint what the smell was, but after retrieving the car, they recognized the odor from the backyard? [/*]
Or their own dogs kept digging in a certain area. They might have even found something (clothing or whatever).

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by CNTM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

It's still on the final view from last night. [/*]Morning, CNTM. :seeya:

Any idea what time the protesters went home last night?

[impartial]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Oh, good grief! Didn't LE already check out the slab?

Lenny is beginning to grate on me. He comes up with as many theories as Cindy does.

I'm still waiting for the dumpster news that will "shock the world." imo [/*]


Me too.

The only thing that would shock the world at this point is Caylee being found alive.

IMO

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by spageddy


Good Point. I hope you're right. I have wondered where they have been & I hope you are right.
Happy Grandparents Day. [/*]

Thank you, anything is possible in this case IMO.

[ellegna]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Hans Reiser. [/*]

Thank you :seeya:

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by KatieKates


13? WOW! That's quite a blessing.

If Caylee were to be found alive at this point, it wouldn't surprise me, considering everything that's gone on so far in this case, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic, jumping up and down that she didn't turn out to be yet another unfortunate statistic.

If we can't get a live Caylee though, I do pray they find her body for closure to all this mess, and that the person :rolleyes: who snuffed out her life far too soon is brought to justice. If for no other reason, so that this BS never happens again. I know that's wishful thinking on my part, as these things seem to become more and more common, but if it can prevent ONE child from being powerless and voiceless in the future...

I also see your point though, and agree a live Caylee should be in our prayers as well as a speedy outcome for this family met with a little grace and compassion.

[/*]


Wonderful post



:rose:

[impartial]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


UGH! :mad: [/*]



How I spent my summer vacation. :eek:

[trich]

I don't for a minute believe the Anthony's are traveling from state to state looking for Caylee.
If so the media would have picked up on that ...not to mention Cindy would certainly have let them know.
But remember George said the kidnappers were under surveilence ......guess they are still are since no one saw fit to go rescue the child.
Now how untterly ridiculous is that.


There are lots of what if's out there but logic most often prevails.
We would all love for a miracle to happen but as much as I would love to believe one will happen they just don't happen that often.

I don't think it is nice to protest in front of the house but people are so frustrated by their lies and falsehoods they react badly.
If Cindy and Gerorge kept their mouths shut and not been caught telling lies for the world to see just like Scott Petterson's parents did the public would not be so outraged.


I can't help but keep thinking .......What goes around comes around.

[CinTN]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
okay, i was devil's advocate yesterday, today i'm just going to be the 'witch', with the other spelling....

while i love a good debate and am fascinated with others opinions, whether they agree with my own or not...
i find the 'nick picking' agruements that occur on this board sometimes just irritating beyond all get out.

you can respectfully disagree, you can debate without nickpicking fighting.

and i find that usually the ones--and i'm narrowing it to 'the ones' because while all of us disagree at some point, there seem to be a few that's always going to 'stir the pot'---anyway, the ones that are doing this will also be the first ones that jump into 'what are you doing to find caylee' mode...and i just want to scream.
they are also the ones that will say ''those childish protestors''
i mean how contradicting...

and i'm not stating this for anything at the moment, it's just been on my mind with past postings, bans, etc. i'm sure you all understand the things i'm referring to..

depsite your believes of what you believe has happened to caylee, how about think of it in one of two ways...

she's alive, and while young, one day will catch onto her story and research it...only to find these ''disagreements'' to say it nicely---too nicely
or she's not alive and she's watching from above and seeing it already...

either way, do you think this is what she wants.



i'll be the first to admit, casey anthony is beyond likeable in my book, and down right hated to tell the truth. i don't believe anything in the world will ever change those feelings unless she has one remarkable story that ends up being proved truthful, though it's more than the mind could imagine and results in a alive and safe caylee.
i'll also admit that while a part of me really feels sorry for the grandparents, i just can't get passed their many contradicting and just outragous statements and even more unimaginable behaviors, some of which even grief and/or denial can not excuse.

and while i'd like nothing more than to be proved wrong, i'll even swallow my pride and travel my butt to fl to offer a personal face to face apology to the anthony's should that be the case...
i don't believe caylee is coming 'home', not alive.

i'm not even confident that her body will come home, although i admire tim and tes and 100 percent stand behind their determination, i believe the entire group of searchers are earth bound angels...
caylee just an angel.

it's just not realistic in my opinion to state that 'leaks' aren't facts, although le has admitted to the results that confirm decomposition.
it's not realistic to think they are still considering caylee only missing, when they've stated they believe she is dead
it's not realistic to think that because only prelim' results have been spoken of that that's all they have, especially when they've admitted that they have other evidence.
yes, they are 'prelim' results, but do you really except them to change in the final results

it's been obvious to me that from day one the le has believed what a majority of us believe...from the 'trial' pond diving, to the 'interview' at universals that was released.

and beyond all that...
due to a mother who never reports her child missing and only admits to such after a month of partying.

it's just not realistic.

but that's my opinion, feel free to have your own, not that you need my permission...

but i just needed to get that out. [/*]

:patriot: :beer: :patriot:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Thank you, anything is possible in this case IMO. [/*]That's for sure, and usually does, imo.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert



:( pout!

special delivery!

:seeya:

hoping for the searchers today!

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Once again, I was replying to another posters message because I said I would rather them find an alvie Caylee.



So what do you think could be buried or hidden in the backyard? In your assumption, while you say there were trips made to Tx and Mexico to check out leads, could someone have slipped into the yard unnoticed and put something there or taken something out? The time frame would seem to be off for out of town trips and on top of that, if there is no search locally by the family, why would they spend the money to go out of town? Especially if they were trying to raise money for bail.

Confusing to say the least. [/*]

LE dug up back yard according to them and there are pictures of it and found nothing so I can't assume anything is burried in back yard. If they found something and haven't leaked it IMO they should charge her with murder and put her on trial and quit the word games, causing the media circus, the "demonstraters", misery for friends, neighbors and family and poisioning the jury pool.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by ellegna


Last week on NG, one of the lawyers mentioned a case in Calif. Husband was arrested, tried and found guilty without his wife's body and very little evidence. IIRC after the verdict, the husband led LE to where her body was as part of a plea deal.
Anyone else recall? [/*]

Im in Fla and a local man here is in prison for killing his wife..no body was ever found and her parents still drive around town with it written on their windows asking for help locating her.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Postergeist


special delivery!

:seeya:

hoping for the searchers today! [/*]

I was so hopeful for them yesterday, I really thought they would find Caylee's remains. Tim has said he will search until he does find her tho, I love and respect him so much for that.

[jammies]

IF there had been any credible tips and the Anthony's had found some useful info you can be sure they would have shouted it from the rooftops.

As yet they have done nothing but bash LE, the media and Tim. If they know so much, as they have claimed in the past but "can't talk about", surely they would have found Caylee by now.

This isn't about Caylee anymore and it hasn't been since CA's third 911 call. While THOUSANDS of volunteers search for their granddaughter in adverse conditions WHAT ARE THEY DOING other than undermining those efforts?

How does hiring their own attorney and spending every evening with Casey's attorney lead them to Caylee? How does Cindy calling the news shows and LYING about FACTS such as phone records help find Caylee?

Nope. It has only been about Caylee for a nanosecond. Their entire charade disgusts me.




:flamemad:

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I pray to God that if she was found alive they would NEVER let her return to G, C & C!!!!

I think G & C searched that backyard early on because they knew what their psycho daughter was capable of, thats what I think. Why else search the yard, did they think maybe someone had forgotten to let Caylee back in the house 31 days ago and she was still back there? Did they think that people kidnap children then bury them in their own backyards? If this wasn't really happening I would think it was ridiculous beyond reason.
And if I was related to these people, I would certainly NEVER admit it to anyone. JMO [/*]

I don't know, I may seem like I have a collapsible soap box in my pocket and I take it out every now and then to champion for the Anthony's, (Casey excluded) but I can see all sides to this mess and am forgiving, if not dismissive, of their claims because they're acting on emotion. When we're emotional, we fail to think rationally and for that I can't blame them for the reason we're all here and that is Caylee's disappearance. Did they enable their daughter's lifestyle and personality, maybe :shrug: But, that, imo, has nothing to do with the big picture here. None of us, myself included, are perfect...and for that I feel I don't have the right to judge C&G, even if I need something or someone to blame/explain this absolutely horrific and unnecessary crime.

I just have to wait for LE, and pray they're doing their job without compromising anything that could potentially make this girl walk!

JMO

[MissouriGMom]

I don't think Cindy or George, or Lee for that matter, had anything to do with what happened to Caylee. I do think they had their suspicions on July 15. I don't really think that they let those suspicions rise to the surface or even talk about them. I'm not sure that they have as of yet. Each one of the Anthony's knows that Casey is to blame, but will protect her at all costs. That's the way I see it, and I don't understand it at all. What about Caylee?

If only one of the Anthony's would let themselves see the reality of the situation, that is that Caylee is dead and that Casey is responsible, then just maybe the truth would come out.

Sorry if I'm rambling.

jmho

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by day2day


http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021

IMO if George was a homicide detective. He knew EXACTLY what the smell was in her car. Hmmm...how could he deny it?! jmo [/*]

Note: this is one of my "devil's advocate" posts. :D

I believe Cindy and George both knew that what they smelled was decomposition. From what I have read, that smell is like no other on earth, and I truly believe that even if you smell it for the first time, you just KNOW what it is.

I think it was Dragon that pointed out that not ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies. I also don't believe that all nurses have smelled decomposing bodies. So you can't just say that because he was a detective, and because she was a nurse, they would be familiar with the smell of decomposition. Not necessarily so. However, they KNEW....regardless, they KNEW.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by KatieKates


I don't know, I may seem like I have a collapsible soap box in my pocket and I take it out every now and then to champion for the Anthony's, (Casey excluded) but I can see all sides to this mess and am forgiving, if not dismissive, of their claims because they're acting on emotion. When we're emotional, we fail to think rationally and for that I can't blame them for the reason we're all here and that is Caylee's disappearance. Did they enable their daughter's lifestyle and personality, maybe :shrug: But, that, imo, has nothing to do with the big picture here. None of us, myself included, are perfect...and for that I feel I don't have the right to judge C&G, even if I need something or someone to blame/explain this absolutely horrific and unnecessary crime.

I just have to wait for LE, and pray they're doing their job without compromising anything that could potentially make this girl walk!

JMO [/*]

:beer: I'm with you all the way. :rose:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Chillin


Im in Fla and a local man here is in prison for killing his wife..no body was ever found and her parents still drive around town with it written on their windows asking for help locating her. [/*]

Tommy Lynn Sells, a death row serial killer with a history of drug addiction murdered Julie Rea's son. Sells confessed to Joel's murder, describing how on the night in question he had entered a stranger's house, stabbed someone repeatedly while the person slept, and then grappled with a woman as he made his escape.

In 2002 however, armed with only circumstantial evidence, the prosecution put Rea Harper's character on trial. Witness after witness questioned her behavior and demeanor at the scene, and in the courtroom. Her former husband, Kirkpatrick, portrayed her as a volatile and unstable woman. The jury needed only five hours to find Rea Harper guilty of first-degree murder, and she was sentenced to 65 years in prison.


http://surftofind.com/redcarpet

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Just interested in your opinion. On messages boards such as this, all aspects of the case are discussed. The total impact of the crime is considered and analyzed.

Why does it matter now? IMO because of Casey's non cooperation, there are a lot of people in the police department, searchers, etc. that not only are putting in man hours (and taxpayers money) by the circles being spun by the entire family as well as the families of these police officers and searchers that are being neglected of their family time. Its not just the money, its the quality time being wasted by the selfish few. [/*]

In my opinion only finding Caylee is important NOW. This is not the only missing child case in the country and a lot of man hours and money is being spent on those cases as well.............................. minus all the publicity of course.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Note: this is one of my "devil's advocate" posts. :D

I believe Cindy and George both knew that what they smelled was decomposition. From what I have read, that smell is like no other on earth, and I truly believe that even if you smell it for the first time, you just KNOW what it is.

I think it was Dragon that pointed out that not ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies. I also don't believe that all nurses have smelled decomposing bodies. So you can't just say that because he was a detective, and because she was a nurse, they would be familiar with the smell of decomposition. Not necessarily so. However, they KNEW....regardless, they KNEW. [/*]yes yes i agree but lets not forget Cindy said she's smelled that smell before and she's a "nurse of decomposition" :rolleyes:

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by Barefooted


ITA. I hope this family's behavior does not set a nasty precident for the way people can behave and get away with wasting resources blatantly in the future. The wild goose chase- they should be made to financially reimburse for part of that if it can ever be proven that they were purposely misleading, IMO. If everyone acted like them, the cost of an investigation would be so high that it would either be prohibitive to undertake, or taxes would be in outer space to pay for it all. Somebodys gotta pay for it. I would like to see Cindy Anthony mowing lawns a few years from now to make up for the $$ she cost her county and state w/ her BS claims to LE.

jmo [/*]


ITA

[Sioux_girl]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


LE dug up back yard according to them and there are pictures of it and found nothing so I can't assume anything is burried in back yard. If they found something and haven't leaked it IMO they should charge her with murder and put her on trial and quit the word games, causing the media circus, the "demonstraters", misery for friends, neighbors and family and poisioning the jury pool. [/*]

Actually its Cindy and Casey IMO that are causing the media circus and misery for there neighbours and family - every time she goes to the media and insults people whether its calling people maggots, telling Tim not to search for her grandaughter and telling the media hes doing it to get a name for his business - if the Anthonys dont want all this then tell Cindy to stop causing it all and actually do something to find her grandaughter MOO

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Velouria


I'm glad you brought up the subject of the gun, Regina. Any speculation as to who tipped off LE?

Personally, I'm leaning toward Lee as the tipster. I think he may have been afraid his father would do something desperate. If anyone should be on suicide watch, it isn't Casey. [/*]

You may just be right Vel. I can surely see Lee being very concerned about george and his out of control temper. Guns and anger, not a good mix.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Barefooted


ITA. I hope this family's behavior does not set a nasty precident for the way people can behave and get away with wasting resources blatantly in the future. The wild goose chase- they should be made to financially reimburse for part of that if it can ever be proven that they were purposely misleading, IMO. If everyone acted like them, the cost of an investigation would be so high that it would either be prohibitive to undertake, or taxes would be in outer space to pay for it all. Somebodys gotta pay for it. I would like to see Cindy Anthony mowing lawns a few years from now to make up for the $$ she cost her county and state w/ her BS claims to LE.

jmo [/*]

How about Lenny's misleading, how about LE's misleading, how about Nancy Grace's misleading, how about the media misleading? Should they all have to reimburse the tax payers?

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I beleive George knew, since he was ex homicide detective FGS.

But I don't think Cindy had been exposed to such a smell, Nurse or not.

Still, I think both knew what it was when they smelled it.

jmo [/*]did you watch the bondy hearing? Cindy said she had been exposed to that smell several times.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Note: this is one of my "devil's advocate" posts. :D

I believe Cindy and George both knew that what they smelled was decomposition. From what I have read, that smell is like no other on earth, and I truly believe that even if you smell it for the first time, you just KNOW what it is.

I think it was Dragon that pointed out that not ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies. I also don't believe that all nurses have smelled decomposing bodies. So you can't just say that because he was a detective, and because she was a nurse, they would be familiar with the smell of decomposition. Not necessarily so. However, they KNEW....regardless, they KNEW. [/*]

ITA!

[Chillin]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


How about Lenny's misleading, how about LE's misleading, how about Nancy Grace's misleading, how about the media misleading? Should they all have to reimburse the tax payers? [/*]

What has Nancy said that was misleading? Le?

[ChloeRN]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I see you would rather speculate they havne't done anything to find Caylee. That's fine, different opinions are what makes the world go round. [/*]

Oh prey tell Gma, exactly where do you see ME speculating "they haven't done anything to find Caylee"?

You can strut around on these message boards and bloviate all you want, just keep your facts straight...you got that?

No more bickering with you. Bub-by

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by CNTM
I noticed that the boards will be down some tomorrow for upgrades. Is there an alternate site for discussion, should anything be breaking news? :shrug: [/*]

Good morning everyone.

There is a forum at trutv.com's website that people used while this site was down a few months ago. This site got hacked and it took them days/weeks to get this one up and running again. In the meantime, we used the TruTv message board.

I am not sure if Coldwater would mind us doing that or not. Perhaps someone should ask her. (I can't do it - I am going out of town in a few hrs and won't be back until late tomorrow night - so if she sends me a response to a PM - I would NOT be here to pass it along).

Here is the link to the other board on that site:

http://boards.trutv.com/

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Note: this is one of my "devil's advocate" posts. :D

I believe Cindy and George both knew that what they smelled was decomposition. From what I have read, that smell is like no other on earth, and I truly believe that even if you smell it for the first time, you just KNOW what it is.

I think it was Dragon that pointed out that not ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies. I also don't believe that all nurses have smelled decomposing bodies. So you can't just say that because he was a detective, and because she was a nurse, they would be familiar with the smell of decomposition. Not necessarily so. However, they KNEW....regardless, they KNEW. [/*]Savannah, wasn't George LE for 10 years? LE finds dead bodies, they are called to deceased scenes. Old people do die in their apts sometimes. In ten years, I think he must have had occasion to be called to a death scene. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

Cindy said it herself, "It smells like a dead body in the d@mn car."

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Chillin


Im in Fla and a local man here is in prison for killing his wife..no body was ever found and her parents still drive around town with it written on their windows asking for help locating her. [/*]

The Anthony's don't realize it now, IMO, cause they are in full blown coverup for their Daughter. But not knowing and finding a loved ones remains has to be the worst thing that can happen to someone.

It eats at you. You always wonder. Are always looking. Waiting for the phone to ring. Waiting for a call that may never come.

I always think of Roy Brown, staring into the bay from the bridges. Thinking his Daughters remains will some day surface.

It's horrible.:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I beleive George knew, since he was ex homicide detective FGS.

But I don't think Cindy had been exposed to such a smell, Nurse or not.

Still, I think both knew what it was when they smelled it.

jmo [/*]

Did you read my post though? I wish I had Dragon's old post about it. Do you think ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies, necessarily?

I agree: BOTH knew exactly what it was. I'm only "arguing" how they knew. (It's really moot....sorry I brought it up. I hope to God I never smell it.)

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by Sioux_girl


Actually its Cindy and Casey IMO that are causing the media circus and misery for there neighbours and family - every time she goes to the media and insults people whether its calling people maggots, telling Tim not to search for her grandaughter and telling the media hes doing it to get a name for his business - if the Anthonys dont want all this then tell Cindy to stop causing it all and actually do something to find her grandaughter MOO [/*]

You think I can tell anyone anything??? :lol: The A's can say and/or do what they wish without my instructions.

[jammies]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks
Does anyone know when she's going to start doing this? This was said in July...it's now September.


http://www.wesh.com/news/16924325/detail.html

"If I have to go out myself door-to-door and look for this child until the day I die, I will walk every inch of this earth and open every door and knock on every door and I will look in every nook and cranny until I find her," Cindy Anthony said." [/*]



She meant that OTHERS should get up off their *****.....certainly not THEM!!!!

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


How about Lenny's misleading, how about LE's misleading, how about Nancy Grace's misleading, how about the media misleading? Should they all have to reimburse the tax payers? [/*]


The media doesn't know where Caylee is. Someone in that family does.

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by aubrey04


Good morning everyone.

There is a forum at trutv.com's website that people used while this site was down a few months ago. This site got hacked and it took them days/weeks to get this one up and running again. In the meantime, we used the TruTv message board.

I am not sure if Coldwater would mind us doing that or not. Perhaps someone should ask her. (I can't do it - I am going out of town in a few hrs and won't be back until late tomorrow night - so if she sends me a response to a PM - I would NOT be here to pass it along).

Here is the link to the other board on that site:

http://boards.trutv.com/ [/*]




thank you!!!

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


How about Lenny's misleading, how about LE's misleading, how about Nancy Grace's misleading, how about the media misleading? Should they all have to reimburse the tax payers? [/*]None of them had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. imo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Savannah, wasn't George LE for 10 years? LE finds dead bodies, they are called to deceased scenes. Old people do die in their apts sometimes. In ten years, I think he must have had occasion to be called to a death scene. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

Cindy said it herself, "It smells like a dead body in the d@mn car."

jmo [/*]

Frankly, I'm not even positive he was a homicide detective. But yes, I do believe they are called to death scenes, of course. How long does it take a body to start to smell of decomposition? I guess that's the key question.

Like I said, I have NO argument that he (or Cindy) didn't know the smell. But "knowing" from deep in their gut, not NECESSARILY having previous experience.

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by ellegna


Last week on NG, one of the lawyers mentioned a case in Calif. Husband was arrested, tried and found guilty without his wife's body and very little evidence. IIRC after the verdict, the husband led LE to where her body was as part of a plea deal.
Anyone else recall? [/*]

The murdered woman was Nina Reiser,


This is not the only case in California where a person has been charge with murder without a body. The husband of Debbie Hawk has been arrested and is going to trial for her murder despite the fact that Debbie’s remains have never been found. Dave Hawk has been charged with murder for financial gain and a tentative trial date of Oct. 27 has been established.

For more about Debbie Hawk you can go to the following MySpace page;
http://www.myspace.com/sandralackey

Peter