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[Syd'sMiMi]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


I do not know because I have never had a missing granchild. IMO no one can say how they would act or what they would do in a given situation until we are actually in that situation. We may think we would act differently but I'm sure the family knows more than we do and they may know she really is alive and are so frustrtated because they can't find her. [/*]

They why in the he double L don't they tell LE so they can go find her and bring her home?

I am a very long time lurker on this board and have just recently started posting because this case has me in such an angry state of being right now. The family knows an awful lot and they need to start telling the truth about this situation. If not, when they find Caylees body I hope they all rot in jail.

I can tell you if it were my previous little GD and my DD, all I can say is he77 and high water could not and would not keep me from finding my GD and getting every possible resource available to help me accomplish that. And I would steam roll my DD if she were ever to act like CA. This girl needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with someone.

[jammies]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
None of them had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. imo [/*]



Don't give Cindy any ideas!! ;)

[day2day]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Note: this is one of my "devil's advocate" posts. :D

I believe Cindy and George both knew that what they smelled was decomposition. From what I have read, that smell is like no other on earth, and I truly believe that even if you smell it for the first time, you just KNOW what it is.

I think it was Dragon that pointed out that not ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies. I also don't believe that all nurses have smelled decomposing bodies. So you can't just say that because he was a detective, and because she was a nurse, they would be familiar with the smell of decomposition. Not necessarily so. However, they KNEW....regardless, they KNEW. [/*]

Savannah...
You are right I shouldn't have said it like that. Maybe he didn't know "that smell". That being said..I would assume (i know its dangerous ..lol) that it does NOT smell like pizza?!

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Why does it matter now? The focus is Caylle, not money IMO. I really don't think Caylee run away to avoid a marriage and because we do not know the details of who or why Casey really turned Caylee over to money should not be important. When she is found then the money can enter the picture and if reimbursment is called for let Casey and/or her family worry about it. [/*]

Money HAS to enter the picture. The LE doesn't have millions upon millions of dollars at their disposal. IMO, Casey's lies have cost the LE many thousands of dollars following her wild goose chases that would have been MUCH better spent elsewhere instead of being wasted!

Caylee isn't the only missing child in Orlando, in case you're unaware. I believe these other kids deserve to have the LE spend some of their limited resources, both money and manpower, on them, don't you?

http://www.cityoforlando.net/POLICE/missing/juveniles.htm

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Frankly, I'm not even positive he was a homicide detective. But yes, I do believe they are called to death scenes, of course. How long does it take a body to start to smell of decomposition? I guess that's the key question.

Like I said, I have NO argument that he (or Cindy) didn't know the smell. But "knowing" from deep in their gut, not NECESSARILY having previous experience. [/*]You don't have to be a homicide detective to be called to a death scene. imo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by day2day


Savannah...
You are right I shouldn't have said it like that. Maybe he didn't know "that smell". That being said..I would assume (i know its dangerous ..lol) that it does NOT smell like pizza?! [/*]

I'm sure it doesn't! :)

[joolz]

Originally posted by Chillin


Im in Fla and a local man here is in prison for killing his wife..no body was ever found and her parents still drive around town with it written on their windows asking for help locating her. [/*]

I think Ellegna is talking about the Hans Reiser case up in the Bay area.

[nana6]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I beleive George knew, since he was ex homicide detective FGS.

But I don't think Cindy had been exposed to such a smell, Nurse or not.

Still, I think both knew what it was when they smelled it.

jmo [/*] Gosh, I had not heard that G was an ex homicide officer. I just th ought he was in LE

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Did you read my post though? I wish I had Dragon's old post about it. Do you think ALL homicide detectives have smelled decomposing bodies, necessarily?

I agree: BOTH knew exactly what it was. I'm only "arguing" how they knew. (It's really moot....sorry I brought it up. I hope to God I never smell it.) [/*]
Just do a search and pull it up.

[~jomomma~]

did any of you see on Fox that there was a gun found in the Anthony home?

they didn't say anymore about it tho.

:confused:

[Justins Mom]

This is my opinion only... At this point, they all know. Period, end of subject.
The problem is that they love the media attention, negative or none.
Once Caylee is found, its over.


If Cindy and her clan did not know, they would be leading searches, they would be using the TV wisely and gathering the backing of the biggest and brightest media outlets to get the word out in a constructive way.

Believe me, if there was real truth from the very beginning and this was a case where we all believed a real story, we'd all find a way.

For those down in the Orlando area who are searching, meeting each other and posting here - I love ya all!!!!!!

For Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch, GB you too!!!!!
For Cindy to treat his efforts as she did.....:flamemad: barf


Come clean Casey...
Come clean Cindy

Caylee deserves more than this.

If you really loved Caylee...... Do the RIGHT THING


jmo... JUSTINS MOM'S OPINION:patriot:

[Chillin]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~
did any of you see on Fox that there was a gun found in the Anthony home?

they didn't say anymore about it tho.

:confused: [/*]It was in Georges trunk.

[WhiteShark]

Originally posted by Barefooted
Cindy and George and Lee have been in the media spotlight every day since this happened, none of them has had even the opportunity to fly to Ga, PR or Mexico, so to suggest that they might have flown somewhere to check out a lead is preposterous. JMO [/*]'
No offense, but they have had EVERY chance to fly anywhere, probably free of charge on some media station's dime, to look for Caylee. They haven't gone anywhere, because they know it would be a waste of time.......IMOOC

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by Chillin
It was in Georges trunk. [/*]

ahhhh, ok, i didn't hear anything on it. it just had those words on the tv.

thanks, Chillin

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
None of them had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. imo [/*]

Exactly!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by trich
I don't for a minute believe the Anthony's are traveling from state to state looking for Caylee.
If so the media would have picked up on that ...not to mention Cindy would certainly have let them know.
But remember George said the kidnappers were under surveilence ......guess they are still are since no one saw fit to go rescue the child.
Now how untterly ridiculous is that.


There are lots of what if's out there but logic most often prevails.
We would all love for a miracle to happen but as much as I would love to believe one will happen they just don't happen that often.

I don't think it is nice to protest in front of the house but people are so frustrated by their lies and falsehoods they react badly.
If Cindy and Gerorge kept their mouths shut and not been caught telling lies for the world to see just like Scott Petterson's parents did the public would not be so outraged.


I can't help but keep thinking .......What goes around comes around. [/*]

Since apparently now the anthony's are flush, having the Benjamins to secure the $500,000 for their psychopath's bail, perhaps they can spare a few bucks and hire a private investigator to search for the beloved granddaughter that they are convinced is alive and well.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by day2day


Savannah...
You are right I shouldn't have said it like that. Maybe he didn't know "that smell". That being said..I would assume (i know its dangerous ..lol) that it does NOT smell like pizza?! [/*]I have smelled dead critters in the woods. It's a horrible smell, and cannot be mistaken for anything else. I have investigated that smell, just to make sure it wasn't a human being. Nope, wouldn't be mistaken for pizza. Garbage smells entirely different. imo

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~
did any of you see on Fox that there was a gun found in the Anthony home?

they didn't say anymore about it tho.

:confused: [/*]

I just got done reading about the gun & surveillance cameras the A's had installed yesterday on channel 13 news, but I don't know how to provide links. I was trying to link it, but couldn't figure it out. Sorry. It was on channel 13 web page if anyone can help. Thanks!!:seeya:

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Savannah, wasn't George LE for 10 years? LE finds dead bodies, they are called to deceased scenes. Old people do die in their apts sometimes. In ten years, I think he must have had occasion to be called to a death scene. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

Cindy said it herself, "It smells like a dead body in the d@mn car."

jmo [/*]

OT a little, but when I was a teenager, the man next door, he was elderly, had committed suicide in the garage next to my bedroom. I smelled something so strong and WRONG, that I eventually told my mother who phoned the police. Sure enough, it was his body.

When my GM died, some years later, I smelled a similar, yet toned down, version of that smell in the house for months, even though we were with her when she went, and her body wasn't in the house long.

When we went to the funeral home to make the arrangements, I told the undertaker that I could smell that smell in his office and he said it was weird, because some smell it and are so sensitive to it, while other's don't have the ability to smell it at all, or associate it on recall again and again.

Just rambling, but maybe George doesn't have the ability to distinguish the smell of death with any other foul odor? :shrug:

Who knows. JMO.

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by MyrDawn


Money HAS to enter the picture. The LE doesn't have millions upon millions of dollars at their disposal. IMO, Casey's lies have cost the LE many thousands of dollars following her wild goose chases that would have been MUCH better spent elsewhere instead of being wasted!

Caylee isn't the only missing child in Orlando, in case you're unaware. I believe these other kids deserve to have the LE spend some of their limited resources, both money and manpower, on them, don't you?

http://www.cityoforlando.net/POLICE/missing/juveniles.htm [/*]

Tell it to LE, not me. I do not tell them how to spend their money or who to spend it on. :rolleyes:

I actually think Caylee would be better off and found sooner if all this hoopla was stopped today. If indeed somone has her all this publicy may make her too hot to handle if she is still in this country. If they are so sure Casey killed her, charge her and put her on trial and spend all those dollars you are so worried about finding others.

[beckyj]

I thought GA was a deputy sheriff in Ohio. But regardless, I don't think either of them would have been exposed to a decomposing body. I mean what are the chances? Bodies don't decompose immediately.

I unfortunately have been exposed to burned bodies in my business. I had to go into the medical examiner's office. I don't know if a burned body smells the same as a decomposing body, but BELIEVE ME you will never forget either I'm sure.

I think the fact that Cindy referred to the smell as a decomposing body only proves that she suspicioned something had happened to Caylee. JMO

[martha]

Good morning everyone. I guess we have no news today. I hope today will be the day they find caylee and I sure hope she is alive but if not she needs to be found. This whole thing needs to be over. It is taking a whole life of iton and we all have come to love this baby. Good day to you all and I will be here of and on to read and hope you all will keep me posted as to what is going on. jmho:rose:

[desmom]

Originally posted by Barefooted


I beleive George knew, since he was ex homicide detective FGS.

But I don't think Cindy had been exposed to such a smell, Nurse or not.

Still, I think both knew what it was when they smelled it.

jmo [/*]

George worked homicide in OH?

TIA

[Joan-Pa.]

Here is the link to the 'Discovery Investigation site.. the writer is in Orlando, and has been involved in the searches, he even has video on the searches yesterday, talking with Tim and some of the searchers....
Very good site,

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by WhiteShark
'
No offense, but they have had EVERY chance to fly anywhere, probably free of charge on some media station's dime, to look for Caylee. They haven't gone anywhere, because they know it would be a waste of time.......IMOOC [/*]

I don't believe I've heard a description of "Sam' older Sister to Zanny.

Whats stopping them from claiming the 225k reward and returning Caylee? It's apparent from watching the news, Casey is on their side. And helping them to hide Caylee.:rolleyes: She's not telling.

Since Caylee is major national story and most have heard of her, where do the Anthony's think the crazy kidnappers are keeping Caylee? Locked in a box in a basement somewhere in TX?

What makes them think the kidnappers haven't disposed of Caylee by now?

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Hiya Joanie!! I am probably naive but I still pay attention when Lenny spouts out some new info, like he did last night with Geraldo. He said this week LE would return and dig up the "slab." It will be interesting to see if this pans out.

Yesterday, I did hear a report that it turns out LE did take "evidence" of decomposition from the yard. I had never heard that before and I only heard it once yesterday. So, perhaps the report was wrong or I misheard, but I did find it interesting that now Lenny thinks LE will return to dig in the anthony yard. As with everything about this case: Time will tell.
[/*]

Good Morning Scampi!

I saw Geraldo last evening as well and I truly believe that Lenny has some merit.

The man does not have a dog in this race anymore.

I believe him.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I have smelled dead critters in the woods. It's a horrible smell, and cannot be mistaken for anything else. I have investigated that smell, just to make sure it wasn't a human being. Nope, wouldn't be mistaken for pizza. Garbage smells entirely different. imo [/*]

Thanks Joan. I live wayyy in the country and so far I have never smelled anything dead. Thank God. I hope I never have to.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~


ahhhh, ok, i didn't hear anything on it. it just had those words on the tv.

thanks, Chillin [/*]

YW. My theory is he hid it there to get it out of the hosue so Casey could be bonded out.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Justins Mom
This is my opinion only... At this point, they all know. Period, end of subject.
The problem is that they love the media attention, negative or none.
Once Caylee is found, its over.


If Cindy and her clan did not know, they would be leading searches, they would be using the TV wisely and gathering the backing of the biggest and brightest media outlets to get the word out in a constructive way.

Believe me, if there was real truth from the very beginning and this was a case where we all believed a real story, we'd all find a way.

For those down in the Orlando area who are searching, meeting each other and posting here - I love ya all!!!!!!

For Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch, GB you too!!!!!
For Cindy to treat his efforts as she did.....:flamemad: barf


Come clean Casey...
Come clean Cindy

Caylee deserves more than this.

If you really loved Caylee...... Do the RIGHT THING


jmo... JUSTINS MOM'S OPINION:patriot: [/*]Absolutely. Equusearch has so far $30,000 invested in searching for Caylee, $5,000 of that from LE. LE has begged Tim to continue with that search. It's ridiculous on the face of that, LE knowing what they know, to assume Caylee is out there somewhere alive.

Caylee needs to be brought home.

jmo

[kakax]

Originally posted by chrissybot


I just got done reading about the gun & surveillance cameras the A's had installed yesterday on channel 13 news, but I don't know how to provide links. I was trying to link it, but couldn't figure it out. Sorry. It was on channel 13 web page if anyone can help. Thanks!!:seeya: [/*]


http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=&cat=&title=

first video


Thanks Chrissy!!

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Joan-Pa.
Here is the link to the 'Discovery Investigation site.. the writer is in Orlando, and has been involved in the searches, he even has video on the searches yesterday, talking with Tim and some of the searchers....
Very good site,

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/ [/*]

Thanks for this! :beer:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

Just do a search and pull it up. [/*]

You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by day2day


Thanks Joan. I live wayyy in the country and so far I have never smelled anything dead. Thank God. I hope I never have to. [/*]Dead deer, raccoons, coyotes, etc. in the woods. The smell travels at least a city block, outside. Hunters. :flamemad:

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


Tell it to LE, not me. I do not tell them how to spend their money or who to spend it on. :rolleyes:

I actually think Caylee would be better off and found sooner if all this hoopla was stopped today. If indeed somone has her all this publicy may make her too hot to handle if she is still in this country. If they are so sure Casey killed her, charge her and put her on trial and spend all those dollars you are so worried about finding others. [/*]

I don't need to tell it to the LE. They know that money is an issue already. I agree the Anthony's should quit causing this "hoopla" with their ever changing stories about Caylee's whereabouts, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I believe they will charge Casey with murder, but they are smart enough not to jump the gun before they've gathered all the evidence they can.

JMO

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by kakax



http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=&cat=&title=

first video


Thanks Chrissy!! [/*]

TY kakax!!:seeya:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


In my opinion only finding Caylee is important NOW. This is not the only missing child case in the country and a lot of man hours and money is being spent on those cases as well.............................. minus all the publicity of course. [/*]

If Cindy believes she is alive, and she can put the money down for Casey, then WHY ON EARTH IS SHE NOT LOOKING FOR CAYLEE ALIVE?

There can only be one answer to that question and it's to protect Casey because she knows different IMOO. :cuss:

This has gone way too far and she needs to put her money where her mouth is or SHUT UP, go to the back of the bus and wait for Caylee to come home. That is my personal opinion as she is a detriment to the search for Caylee and that's obvious.

It's all about Casey again, JUST LIKE SHE ALLUDED TO IN HER MYSPACE....jealousy and Casey must once again be TOP DOG even if it's in death. barf AGAIN, JMO

[Justins Mom]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks



:D

I almost forgot. She also said (in that clip with Kitty Gonzalez) that the media was keeping her from looking for Caylee. [/*]


Hi Petey.

The media can be the greatest thing in helping to find Caylee.

The media, when worked with constructively and honestly.... can keep the story alive. The media can put you in contact with the best, the Tims of Equusearch, the John Walshes, the parents of other well known case missing kids, the parents of children found... People and posters on other websites. I wonder if the Anthony family has ANY IDEA OF THE INSESSION MESSAGE BOARD FAMILY HERE??

All for their advise and input... For organizing and leading searches.

Caylee's family has something else going on and we all know what it is. It is not a search for Caylee

Sooner or later, people will tire of this. If something does not happen, this too will fade.

:(

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


It was found in the trunk of the SUV in the spare tire well. It was removed because it violated the terms of Caseys bail. No weapons. It was not voluntarily reported to the LE of its existance, it was an anonymos tipster according to reports. The family convinced the LE that Casey was not aware of its existance.

Interesting tho the spot it was hidden. Most people, hide them under the seat or in the glove compartment. :seeya: [/*]

thanks Hedda!!!

:seeya:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~
did any of you see on Fox that there was a gun found in the Anthony home?

they didn't say anymore about it tho.

:confused: [/*]

This was discussed in-depth on last night's thread, jomomma.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad: [/*]Who was banned?

[WinnieLeigh7]

i've heard that all of the anthony's have been asked to take a lie detector test...and refused...

can anyone confirm this


if this can be confirmed, that's extremely damning in my opinion

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Chillin
Who was banned? [/*]

Dragon. :mad:

I'm off to church. See you all later. Happy Grandparents again, to all who are so blessed!

:seeya:

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Dead deer, raccoons, coyotes, etc. in the woods. Hunters. :flamemad: [/*]

I've smelled road kill on more occasions than I can count. Horrid smell. Once you smell it, you'll always know that smell. Something is dead!!

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
i've heard that all of the anthony's have been asked to take a lie detector test...and refused...

can anyone confirm this


if this can be confirmed, that's extremely damning in my opinion [/*]

I believe it was just Casey, whose lawyer declined. Can someone confirm. The Anthony's are not people of interest in this case, so they wouldn't be asked, imo.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by day2day


http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021

IMO if George was a homicide detective. He knew EXACTLY what the smell was in her car. Hmmm...how could he deny it?! jmo [/*]

That is very interesting, day2day.

Thanks.

imoo

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Dragon. :mad:

I'm off to church. See you all later. Happy Grandparents again, to all who are so blessed!

:seeya: [/*]
Dragon banned..:cuss: I enjoy reading Dragon posts.

[nana6]

Web cam 1 looks like maybe last nights and web cam 2 is the same as it has been for days a parking lot. At least that is wheat mine is showing Do any of you have anything different? AND, I would like to say that this is a very pleasant board today. I would be sooo upset if it was closed because of a couple of posters.

[bluwaters]

Security Cameras Installed At Anthony Home

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by kakax



http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=&cat=&title=

first video


Thanks Chrissy!! [/*]

whoops can't get that video to play. kakax, can you check the news articles on there site?? The one I read was posted this morning. TY!!

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by KatieKates


I believe it was just Casey, whose lawyer declined. Can someone confirm. The Anthony's are not people of interest in this case, so they wouldn't be asked, imo. [/*]

I'd like to see them hooked up to one and asked questions about how they knew where Caylee was and that she and the crazy kidnappers were being watched.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Dragon. :mad:

I'm off to church. See you all later. Happy Grandparents again, to all who are so blessed!

:seeya: [/*]

Dragon was banned? OMG! :cuss:

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Security Cameras Installed At Anthony Home

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html [/*]

Got it!! TY TY TY!! you guys are the best:seeya:

[nana6]

WHAT?? When was Dragon banned? I guess I missed alot!!

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by KatieKates


OT a little, but when I was a teenager, the man next door, he was elderly, had committed suicide in the garage next to my bedroom. I smelled something so strong and WRONG, that I eventually told my mother who phoned the police. Sure enough, it was his body.

When my GM died, some years later, I smelled a similar, yet toned down, version of that smell in the house for months, even though we were with her when she went, and her body wasn't in the house long.

When we went to the funeral home to make the arrangements, I told the undertaker that I could smell that smell in his office and he said it was weird, because some smell it and are so sensitive to it, while other's don't have the ability to smell it at all, or associate it on recall again and again.

Just rambling, but maybe George doesn't have the ability to distinguish the smell of death with any other foul odor? :shrug:

Who knows. JMO. [/*]There's no mistaking it, imo. The first time I smelled a dead critter, I knew/assumed that's what it had to be. Can't possibly be mistaken for garbage. I'm not LE. jmo

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


This was discussed in-depth on last night's thread, jomomma. [/*]

sorry, i was away from TV and computer last night.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by bluwaters
Security Cameras Installed At Anthony Home

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html [/*]

Mt first thought - I wish they had a nanny cam set up on Casey prior to all this happening.

But then we would either not be here like we are, or, they'd just destroy the tape and act like they don't know anything.
:punch:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad: [/*]


:rose:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Dragon. :mad:

I'm off to church. See you all later. Happy Grandparents again, to all who are so blessed!

:seeya: [/*]

what

why

[kakax]

Originally posted by chrissybot


whoops can't get that video to play. kakax, can you check the news articles on there site?? The one I read was posted this morning. TY!! [/*]


Check blu's link she just posted...see if that will work.

[kakax]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-6.html?cid=129520906#comments


This guy is going to go around and take pictures of anything that bloggers would like him to and post them later. I asked him to take detailed pictures of dumpsters at Amscott and those around TonE's apartment.

If you can think of anything....go over there and post!!!

[bluwaters]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad: [/*]

Oh no!!! :cuss:

hammer

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I've smelled road kill on more occasions than I can count. Horrid smell. Once you smell it, you'll always know that smell. Something is dead!! [/*]Exactly, msgator.

Once had to get hubby to move a dead critter, it was too close to the house. Horrible, it filled the yard.

I have no problem imagining something dead in a car trunk would destroy the car in a matter of hours in FLA. imo

OMG, poor Caylee. :rose:

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad: [/*]

Dragon was banned?

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by shellzbi


Good Morning Scampi!

I saw Geraldo last evening as well and I truly believe that Lenny has some merit.

The man does not have a dog in this race anymore.

I believe him. [/*]

I know what you mean Shell. What would be the point of lying? Time will tell if he's right about that yard.

I agree with commonguymd, LE should have used those cadaver dogs on the interior of that house and all of the vehicles in late July.

I think casey anthony rested Caylee's remains somewhere in that yard, covered up with something while she looked for a more permanent place to put the body. I really doubt she was buried deep in the ground, casey isn't that industrious, imo.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I know what you mean Shell. What would be the point of lying? Time will tell if he's right about that yard.

I agree with commonguymd, LE should have used those cadaver dogs on the interior of that house and all of the vehicles in late July.

I think casey anthony rested Caylee's remains somewhere in that yard, covered up with something while she looked for a more permanent place to put the body. I really doubt she was buried deep in the ground, casey isn't that industrious, imo. [/*]I agree on the dogs, Reggie. At the time, I was very disappointed that they didn't. imo

[WinnieLeigh7]

just curious...

all of you that think she was temp. buried in the yard, what do you think happened to her

do you think she accidentially drowned


asking just because i hear theories of her being left in the car, or placed in the trunk while casey partied.

then there is the pool theory


just wondering for those that think she was in the yard, what's your theory of what happened

because unless she died at the home, somewhere, somehow...

i don't think casey would have taken her back there

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Postergeist


I will PM you some info

:seeya: [/*]

me too please......of all days to go down....:rolleyes:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Does anyone know when the slab was poured or why it was poured in the back yard? [/*]We have never gotten confirmation that an actual cement slab was poured Hedda, that was a rumor. However, we do know that the yard has several paver areas. Both george and LE moved Caylee's little playhouse to search for something and the dogs may have hit in that area, iirc.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Does anyone know when the slab was poured or why it was poured in the back yard? [/*]

They are decorative pavers. Not a concrete slab.

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Frankly, I'm not even positive he was a homicide detective. But yes, I do believe they are called to death scenes, of course. How long does it take a body to start to smell of decomposition? I guess that's the key question.

Like I said, I have NO argument that he (or Cindy) didn't know the smell. But "knowing" from deep in their gut, not NECESSARILY having previous experience. [/*]

It is my understanding in most LE departments that the training involves going to a morgue.

My husband is ex-LE and my son is in LE, both had to go to a morgue and view an autopsy - both said it was the worst smell and both said it made them feel sick, and a few of the men and women fainted from it.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
just curious...

all of you that think she was temp. buried in the yard, what do you think happened to her

do you think she accidentially drowned


asking just because i hear theories of her being left in the car, or placed in the trunk while casey partied.

then there is the pool theory


just wondering for those that think she was in the yard, what's your theory of what happened

because unless she died at the home, somewhere, somehow...

i don't think casey would have taken her back there [/*]I thought the pool was a possibility until the chloroform evidence was leaked.

Don''t forget, the pool ladder placement was told by Cindy. I'm not so sure now that ladder was up in the AM, and that Cindy is telling the truth. She is making excuses for everything. imo

[Velouria]

Originally posted by kakax
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-6.html?cid=129520906#comments


This guy is going to go around and take pictures of anything that bloggers would like him to and post them later. I asked him to take detailed pictures of dumpsters at Amscott and those around TonE's apartment.

If you can think of anything....go over there and post!!! [/*]


Thanks for the reminder, kakax. You made some really good suggestions. I didn't realize he'd updated this morning. He's also got some interesting YouTube videos under "crimewriter74" in case anyone is interested.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Does anyone know when the slab was poured or why it was poured in the back yard? [/*]
July 4th

[Leve]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA


LE dug up back yard according to them and there are pictures of it and found nothing so I can't assume anything is burried in back yard. If they found something and haven't leaked it IMO they should charge her with murder and put her on trial and quit the word games, causing the media circus, the "demonstraters", misery for friends, neighbors and family and poisioning the jury pool. [/*]

Actually I think Cindy is the one that can be blamed for "causing the media circus, the demonstraters" and poisioning the jury pool". She needs to shut up already. As far as causing misery for friends, neighbors and family - I believe Casey took care of that.

The LE has been pretty quiet. IMO

[Chillin]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Dragon was banned? [/*]Wasnt it him that called another poster a moron if so thats probably why.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Leve


Actually I think Cindy is the one that can be blamed for "causing the media circus, the demonstraters" and poisioning the jury pool". She needs to shut up already. As far as causing misery for friends, neighbors and family - I believe Casey took care of that.

The LE has been pretty quiet. IMO [/*]

ITA - Cindy should have stuck with simply making pleas to find Caylee. Showing her pics. And when media had questions about her Daughter - no comment.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Pebbles


It is my understanding in most LE departments that the training involves going to a morgue.

My husband is ex-LE and my son is in LE, both had to go to a morgue and view an autopsy - both said it was the worst smell and both said it made them feel sick, and a few of the men and women fainted from it. [/*]I believe that's correct. My ex was a deputy, he was offered a job witnessing autopsies, he declined. He'd already had to visit the morgue several times, to make reports on various scenes he'd been called to. He wasn't a homicide detective. imo

[Leve]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


ITA - Cindy should have stuck with simply making pleas to find Caylee. Showing her pics. And when media had questions about her Daughter - no comment. [/*]

True. It seems that most of the hatred of this family can be placed squarely on Cindy's shoulders but she just can't stop getting her mug on TV. Did you see when she went and stood in front of the Webcam? It would be sad if it wasn't so perverse.

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
just curious...

all of you that think she was temp. buried in the yard, what do you think happened to her

do you think she accidentially drowned


asking just because i hear theories of her being left in the car, or placed in the trunk while casey partied.

then there is the pool theory


just wondering for those that think she was in the yard, what's your theory of what happened

because unless she died at the home, somewhere, somehow...

i don't think casey would have taken her back there [/*]

I kept thinking Caylee never made it out of the house the night of June 15th alive. I was thinking Casey smothered her then took off. Now, with Cindy washing a knife found in the car, the chloroform....I don't know. I'm totally confused on how she died. I am suspicious with Cindy washing a knife & pants & I do believe Casey did indeed intentionally kill her daughter, just don't know how.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Thanks - has the family commented on it? Somehow I missed this part. [/*]
At the time, they refused to confirm or deny it.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Chillin
Wasnt it him that called another poster a moron if so thats probably why. [/*]Can we please stay on topic?

TIA

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by chrissybot


I kept thinking Caylee never made it out of the house the night of June 15th alive. I was thinking Casey smothered her then took off. Now, with Cindy washing a knife found in the car, the chloroform....I don't know. I'm totally confused on how she died. I am suspicious with Cindy washing a knife & pants & I do believe Casey did indeed intentionally kill her daughter, just don't know how. [/*]I frequently carry a table knife for traveling and excursions. It's economical to buy cheese, etc. for snacks. I don't think the knife has anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. imo

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Carol25

At the time, they refused to confirm or deny it. [/*]

Which makes me wonder, why?

It was supposedly laid prior to the last time they claim to have seen Caylee. Someone called the tip in, IIRC. Probably a neighbor who seen George hauling the pavers back.

IMO - Why not admit it? It gives a reasonable explaination as to why the backyard had been dug up.

[WinnieLeigh7]

i'm going to be honest about the 'smell' theories, as well as try to offer some insight on decomp. and remains....sorry in advance for being too graphic....

as mentioned before, i participated in a search for the sister of a dear friend of mine through tes.

she was found in a very very shallow makeshift grave, slightly over 3 mths after the date she went missing.

her lower body was still in the grave and she was initially identified by a tattoo she had on her leg, indentification later confirmed through dental records.

her upper remains had been dug up by animals and there was no flesh left...bones had been scattered within the area.

once the le had left from gathering the remains and any evidence from the scene...

we went to the site, it was the following day...

this wasn't my idea btw, but i couldn't let my friend do it alone and i knew i couldn't stop her

anyway...

we were able to find the area by following the smell...

it's a very strong smell


however, with that said, and that being the only time that i have ever experienced something like that, i could not 100 percent confirm to you that if i were to 'smell' that again that i could say without doubt that it was the smell of human decomposition.

in fact, i drove past an area the other day and remember thinking omg that smells like 'someone died'...

and it did...BUT, that was just my statement...
it could have been an animal, i dunno...

it could have been anything...all i could tell you for sure is that something was rotting...literally.

[day2day]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


That is very interesting, day2day.

Thanks.

imoo [/*]

YVW Gentle...

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by IdolHands
I know Cindy blurts things out constantly without editing herself, but I keep thinking of her telling reporters about the pizza.

A pizza was in the car for TWELVE DAYS... you know how hot it's been

Twelve days counting back from the day they picked the car up would be July 3rd.

If they (and I'm sure they knew by then) were informed of the actual date it was abandoned... that would be 18 days.

If counting back from the 15th from the day it was towed.. that would be 15 days.

Where did 12 days come from? For some reason I keep thinking that date is significant. July 3rd. [/*]

i questioned that too, posted alot of 'dates' that just don't add up in a few post on friday...

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I know what you mean Shell. What would be the point of lying? Time will tell if he's right about that yard.

I agree with commonguymd, LE should have used those cadaver dogs on the interior of that house and all of the vehicles in late July.

I think casey anthony rested Caylee's remains somewhere in that yard, covered up with something while she looked for a more permanent place to put the body. I really doubt she was buried deep in the ground, casey isn't that industrious, imo. [/*]

I believe the yard is key. I also think the dumpster is key.

This case is just Cold.

Hoping TM brings her home.

All the Anthony's should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have behaved throughout this circus.

They have never looked for Caylee IMO.

They are spending more energy on Casey who should be in jail.

What's wrong with these people?

[VC2]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Hiya Joanie!! I am probably naive but I still pay attention when Lenny spouts out some new info, like he did last night with Geraldo. He said this week LE would return and dig up the "slab." It will be interesting to see if this pans out.

Yesterday, I did hear a report that it turns out LE did take "evidence" of decomposition from the yard. I had never heard that before and I only heard it once yesterday. So, perhaps the report was wrong or I misheard, but I did find it interesting that now Lenny thinks LE will return to dig in the anthony yard. As with everything about this case: Time will tell.
[/*]

I find this bizarre. I cannot imagine any way short of hell freezing over that the anthony's will let tim into their yard now that there is such bad blood between them.

They cooperated fully with LE when they wanted to investigate it, LE dug areas, searched, brought in dogs and mentioned the slab...they said that it was checked and nothing iirc after it became public that there was a slab.

but why in the world would they let tim and searchers in when they believe caylee is alive? :shrug: I sort of like lenny but this one is bs. only searching of the yard again will by LE and imo there is no way they missed it the first time. They were there for more than a day and its not a huge yard

imo

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I frequently carry a table knife for traveling and excursions. It's economical to buy cheese, etc. for snacks. I don't think the knife has anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. imo [/*]

true true. I am leaning more towards the chloroform O.D. now since that was leaked. But, tomorrow that may change. God only knows what may be revealed tomorrow or the next day, or the next.......

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
We have never gotten confirmation that an actual cement slab was poured Hedda, that was a rumor. However, we do know that the yard has several paver areas. Both george and LE moved Caylee's little playhouse to search for something and the dogs may have hit in that area, iirc. [/*]I believe they did hit on the playhouse. Cindy brought that up when she called NG, IIRC.

Cindy also mentioned (in her Greta interview) that George worked on a foundation but I can't remember where it was. I think the garage? She was commenting on how George's sweat would be there, IIRC. imo

[Carol25]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Which makes me wonder, why?

It was supposedly laid prior to the last time they claim to have seen Caylee. Someone called the tip in, IIRC. Probably a neighbor who seen George hauling the pavers back.

IMO - Why not admit it? It gives a reasonable explaination as to why the backyard had been dug up. [/*]
It just seems everything Cindy says makes everyone so suspicious of her!
I

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by chrissybot


true true. I am leaning more towards the chloroform O.D. now since that was leaked. But, tomorrow that may change. God only knows what may be revealed tomorrow or the next day, or the next....... [/*]Oh yes, even hourly.

[bookie]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


Thanks - has the family commented on it? Somehow I missed this part. [/*]


When the concrete slab rumor first started Carlos Padilla said in a pc that there was no slab ever poured. He went on to say that there were pavers in the yard and the police looked under the pavers.

[desmom]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


ITA - Cindy should have stuck with simply making pleas to find Caylee. Showing her pics. And when media had questions about her Daughter - no comment. [/*]

Exactly! ITA! and Bingo!

jmo

[ellegna]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I've smelled road kill on more occasions than I can count. Horrid smell. Once you smell it, you'll always know that smell. Something is dead!! [/*]

Don't I know it.

I've smelled decomp twice.
Once was on my uncle's farm. One of his heifers was missing so we went out looking for her. We were about 100 yds from the carcass when the smell hit us.

Second time was when the ventilation system broke down in the coroner's building. The first half of the building was the forensic labs/morgue. The other half was government offices. I worked on the 6th floor.
The morgue had it's own ventilation system but when it broke down, fumes seeped into the other system and spread throughout the rest of the building. The building was evacuated and closed for 2 days to air out.
Trust me. Once you smell it, you never forget.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


That was weird. It was like "I'm gonna come out and lecture you, but you better not touch me cuz I'm right in front of this here webcam."

I think she had a bit of liquid courage for that episode.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14j83fp&s=4

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21lsc92&s=4 [/*]OMG! The shaking finger! :eek:

You rock! :beer:

[Spring]

Originally posted by Chillin
Wasnt it him that called another poster a moron if so thats probably why. [/*]


Yep....that is why.


I hope today is the day that little Caylee is found.:rose:

[day2day]

David Lohr is searching for US today. If you have a certain location you want searched. PLEASE leave him a comment!

I am still on the scene in Orlando, Florida, helping look for Casey Anthony's missing daughter, three-year-old Caylee Anthony.

I have been receiving hundreds of emails from readers who are unable to get involved in the search, but who would like me to look at specific areas (Jay Blanchard Park) and to photograph specific places (location of the dumpster).

Given the fact that so many people are out looking again today, I have decided to devote the entire day to YOU.

I am going to start with Jay Blanchard Park, but from there I will go to wherever you send me. If you have a specific area where you want me to go, leave a comment at the bottom of this blog entery, along with the physical address for that location. Obviously, I cannot explore large wooded areas by myself, so please keep your suggestions to areas which are feasible for me to look at or photograph.

I need the physical address for whichever location you send me to so that I can spend my time traveling there, rather than going through the time consuming task of looking it up myself.

Please note that comments here are moderated, so don't become concerned if yours does not go up the instant you post it. Whenever I leave a specific location, I will check back here to see where you want me to go next.

Texas EquuSearch has my cell phone number and they have promised to keep me informed of any breaks in the case.

Now is your chance to get involved!


http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/caylee-anthon-6.html

[onedarksun]

sorry -I am jumping pages ahead because I am fed up with a certain poster who seems so convinced that everyone should be searching for a "live "Caylee - and a bunch us know which poster I am referring to - maybe that poster should come on down to the command center in Orlando and help with the search - I bet it would be a sobering experience - and maybe then she would be a lot less nasty to people on the board - I think that the good ol' ignore button will be coming into play with that poster -

In my opinion - this particular poster has more or less slapped the faces of those who have gone and searched - at least that is how I feel -

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


That was weird. It was like "I'm gonna come out and lecture you, but you better not touch me cuz I'm right in front of this here webcam."

I think she had a bit of liquid courage for that episode.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14j83fp&s=4

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21lsc92&s=4 [/*]

I guess she found the camera.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by VC2


I find this bizarre. I cannot imagine any way short of hell freezing over that the anthony's will let tim into their yard now that there is such bad blood between them.

They cooperated fully with LE when they wanted to investigate it, LE dug areas, searched, brought in dogs and mentioned the slab...they said that it was checked and nothing iirc after it became public that there was a slab.

but why in the world would they let tim and searchers in when they believe caylee is alive? :shrug: I sort of like lenny but this one is bs. only searching of the yard again will by LE and imo there is no way they missed it the first time. They were there for more than a day and its not a huge yard

imo [/*]Not Tim, LE. They don't need her permission.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by chrissybot


I kept thinking Caylee never made it out of the house the night of June 15th alive. I was thinking Casey smothered her then took off. Now, with Cindy washing a knife found in the car, the chloroform....I don't know. I'm totally confused on how she died. I am suspicious with Cindy washing a knife & pants & I do believe Casey did indeed intentionally kill her daughter, just don't know how. [/*]


I don't think she made it out that night either. I not sure Casey was even still there. Cindy had Caylee in the pool. Cindy is the only verifiable one to be last seen with Caylee on the video. What happened I don't know. I could even seeing it being an accident. I can see George and Casey going along with whatever Cindy told them to do. Cindy does wear the pants in that family. It's all Casey has ever known. Do what Cindy says. George is a different thing. He should have done the right thing. He hasn't been programed from birth by Cindy. Am I giving Casey an excuse for her part in this. No way. The current charges against her should be just as they are. I don't care how she was raised she should have protected Caylee. In fact Caylee should have been her reason for standing up to Cindy and getting out of that house. Am I sure this is what happened? Heck no
Cindy makes me think this. Cindy is not acting like grandparent would act like in the situation. Refusing to believe she is dead, sure, but you would still be out there looking and begging people to help you look, not calling names and saying you don't need them.

I wonder if this isn't why LE hasn't charged anyone with murder yet.
They know it is but need to prove who did it.

Don't hurt me too bad. With more info I am more than willing to blame Casey or George. With what little we have I gotta stick with Cindy for now. We are all guessing.

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You know I wouldn't find it. He was banned. :mad: [/*]

he was?? why?

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by desmom


George worked homicide in OH?

TIA [/*]

Cindy said :rolleyes:

[kOOkie1]

Happy Grandparents Day Wishes~
I love my Grandchildren sooo much I have to sometimes remember they are not mine!! I am blessed with 4. Twins Nevaeh & Noah just turned 5. Jordan 4, Kelsey 3. Its a Love like no other thats for sure. :)

.....Caylee has touched all of our hearts..we want to protect her even though we have never met her. She deserved a life. She deserves to be found. This is a precious baby that I know I'll never forget.~

[VC2]

Originally posted by bookie



When the concrete slab rumor first started Carlos Padilla said in a pc that there was no slab ever poured. He went on to say that there were pavers in the yard and the police looked under the pavers. [/*]

EXACTLY!

which is why i don't understand all the curiousity about it now, LE dealt with it

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by KatieKates


I guess she found the camera. [/*]When was that? Why was she shaking the trees, then? :confused:

[ellegna]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


That was weird. It was like "I'm gonna come out and lecture you, but you better not touch me cuz I'm right in front of this here webcam."

I think she had a bit of liquid courage for that episode.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14j83fp&s=4

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21lsc92&s=4 [/*]

Were those her neighbors?

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
When was that? Why was she shaking the trees, then? :confused: [/*]

Don't know, but I find it kind of funny that she planted herself right in front of the thing. :D

ETA: Not funny, har, har...

[Spring]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


he was?? why? [/*]


He called another poster a moron. There was no excuse for that.

[day2day]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


That was weird. It was like "I'm gonna come out and lecture you, but you better not touch me cuz I'm right in front of this here webcam."

I think she had a bit of liquid courage for that episode.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14j83fp&s=4

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21lsc92&s=4 [/*]

Obviously she took time out from answering the 1000's of calls she receives to come out and visit her "fans"...
Thanks Petey you really RAWK!

jmo

[day2day]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
When was that? Why was she shaking the trees, then? :confused: [/*]

bananas? I have no clue?!

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
just curious...

all of you that think she was temp. buried in the yard, what do you think happened to her

do you think she accidentially drowned


asking just because i hear theories of her being left in the car, or placed in the trunk while casey partied.

then there is the pool theory


just wondering for those that think she was in the yard, what's your theory of what happened

because unless she died at the home, somewhere, somehow...

i don't think casey would have taken her back there [/*]

I think Casey chloroformed Caylee, put her in the pool to drown and for some reason changed her mind about reporting it as an accident. Maybe she thought that a tox screen would show it?

[jammies]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


it's working

[febreze]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


So quick to lecture others about their "beliefs" and yet you have no qualms about posting yours. I'm sick of your lectures and your insinuations that anyone on this board actually wishes to find a dead Caylee Anthony because that isn't true.

Forensics have proven something in this case, LE just haven't released the information officially yet. However, imo they have leaked it to the press as a strategic maneuver to put pressure on this defendant.

People who pray for a body believe the leaked evidence points to that and want this little babygirl brought home for a decent burial and that's a good thing, not something to be chastised for as you enjoy doing.

IMO [/*]

great post

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


ITA - Cindy should have stuck with simply making pleas to find Caylee. Showing her pics. And when media had questions about her Daughter - no comment. [/*]

Cindy made pleas to the media to find Caylee very early on. The problem was that when the media asked questions about Casey, she became (IMO) a drama queen. Who can forget her performances on Nancy Grace, Greta's show and all the other appearances she made. She behaved so bizarrely.. Remember the near fainting spell on one show? Remember the yelling on another?

I honestly don't think she had a "no comment" in her. She was enjoying doing the "cameos" even though the reason for her being on TV was (and is!) so horrible.

[kakax]

Don't know if you all saw this....


The Texas-based group EquuSearch is continuing to look for Caylee's body. More than 800 volunteers showed up to search Saturday.

Even with the increased turnout, they are still facing obstacles. The heat is taking its toll on volunteers. With temperatures reaching into the 90’s, EquuSearch had to call 911 when one woman suffered heat stroke.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

[day2day]

Originally posted by jammies
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


it's working [/*]

omygod..LOOK at all that tape...They probly spend more on tape than i do on groceries a week..:no: JMO

[Velouria]

Originally posted by onedarksun
sorry -I am jumping pages ahead because I am fed up with a certain poster who seems so convinced that everyone should be searching for a "live "Caylee - and a bunch us know which poster I am referring to - maybe that poster should come on down to the command center in Orlando and help with the search - I bet it would be a sobering experience - and maybe then she would be a lot less nasty to people on the board - I think that the good ol' ignore button will be coming into play with that poster -

In my opinion - this particular poster has more or less slapped the faces of those who have gone and searched - at least that is how I feel - [/*]

:beer:

And thanks for "walking the talk", onedarksun.

[bookie]

Originally posted by VC2


EXACTLY!

which is why i don't understand all the curiousity about it now, LE dealt with it [/*]

It's an "unfounded tip" (LE's words) rearing it's head again.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by IdolHands


BRINGING THIS OVER FROM FRIDAY NIGHT****

WinnieLeigh7
Member

Registered: Jun 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 609
REPOST FOR THOUGHTS
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN CIRCLED REPEATEDLY...BUT I HAVE JUST A FEW SIMPLE 'DATE' QUESTIONS...

FIRST, WHY IS THIS FAMILY ALWAYS SPEAKING IN 'DAY' TERMS

SUCH AS MY DAUGHTER/GRANDDAUGHTER HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR 31 DAYS
VS. A MONTH OR OVER A MONTH AS 'NORMAL' PEOPLE WOULD DO

OR, THE PIZZA HAS BEEN IN THE CAR FOR 12 DAYS, IN THE HEAT...
VS. 2 WEEKS OR WHATEVER

MOST PEOPLE SPEAK IN 'GENERAL' TERMS YET THE ANTHONY ATTEMPT TO BE SPECIFIC WITH EXACT DAYS....


SO OKAY, LETS GO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A EX LE AND A NURSE, MAYBE IT'S THEIR 'CAREERS' THAT MAKE THEM SPECIFIC

31 DAYS BACK FROM THE TIME THE FIRST 911 CALL WAS MADE, WAS JUNE 14TH

12 DAYS BEFORE THE CAR WAS PICKED UP WAS JULY 3RD, WHICH WE KNOW THE CAR WAS AT AMSCOT FROM JUNE 27-30TH BEFORE THEY TOWED IT

JUNE 9TH WAS THE DATE THE ENTIRE FAMILY STATED ORIGINALLY THEY LAST SAW CAYLEE...I SO VERY MUCH FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE ENTIRE FAMILY MISSED THIS DATE BTW

UNTIL CINDY WAS CONFRONTED ABOUT THE FATHER'S DAY VISIT, AND AS A 'SPECIFIC' DAY PERSON, SHOULD HAVE RECALLED SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DATE AS A HOLIDAY---FATHER'S DAY, CORRECT

AND JUST WHERE IS THE 12 DAYS COMING INTO PLAY, IS SHE SUGGESTING THAT WHOEVER PLACED THIS 'OTHER' DEAD BODY IN THE TRUNK CHOWED DOWN ON PIZZA AND PLACED IT IN THERE TOO...



---------------------------------------------------------------


ANOTHER POSSIBLE THEORY...

WHAT IF WHATEVER HAPPENED HAPPENED THAT WEEKEND AT THE HOUSE...

AND IT WASN'T 'FIGHTING' THAT THE NEIGHBORS HEARD, BUT JUST 'SCREAMING'...PANIC...

AND THEN THE PLAN STARTED

BY ALL THAT WAS THERE

AM I MAKING SENSE

****************************

Winnie .. You are thinking exactly what I'm thinking. [/*]


lol
i wish i knew how ya'll did these searches on post...i've tried...i'm just an idiot i guess...

i just rely on you gifted people and reask hahaha


okay, well there's another post that i posted with a theory of maybe why there hasn't been a murder charge yet...
i think it was saturday morning...

and it was basically discussing what le has is evidence of a death...

what they may not have is the 'who'

who exactly....can they 100 percent put it on casey...
or
with the families contradicting statements, are they 'wondering'

who

[jammies]

Originally posted by day2day


omygod..LOOK at all that tape...They probly spend more on tape than i do on groceries a week..:no: JMO [/*]


Now they have the tape in the street! lol

[day2day]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


Aww YW

She's something else [/*]

Oh yes she is.

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by ellegna


Were those her neighbors? [/*]

No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya:

[bluwaters]

Originally posted by onedarksun
sorry -I am jumping pages ahead because I am fed up with a certain poster who seems so convinced that everyone should be searching for a "live "Caylee - and a bunch us know which poster I am referring to - maybe that poster should come on down to the command center in Orlando and help with the search - I bet it would be a sobering experience - and maybe then she would be a lot less nasty to people on the board - I think that the good ol' ignore button will be coming into play with that poster -

In my opinion - this particular poster has more or less slapped the faces of those who have gone and searched - at least that is how I feel - [/*]

Thank you and your DH for helping in the search!
You are heros! :patriot:

[day2day]

Originally posted by jammies



Now they have the tape in the street! lol [/*]

Can you believe it?! Just when you think you have seen or heard it all..they do something else!!

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by jammies



Now they have the tape in the street! lol [/*]


That tape in the street will probally have to come down..

[Katprint]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce
So what you are saying is that if everyone goes away, no discussion or search is made, ignore the information that is accurate, she will appear out of the blue and all would be forgiven and the world will return to normal? Do pigs fly in your world? Do you actually believe there is a woman of hispanic origin that sat for this child for over a year without anyone (grandparents, family members, friends) knowing she existed and she woke up one day and said I think I will kidnap this child and hold her ransom for all the money this middle income family has? I will use the underground railroad once used by the slaves in the south and escape to my homeland and send cryptic messages only the family can understand and once the funds are secured put the child on a greyhound bus and send her home? Do I understand your thinking correctly? :shrug:
You left out the part about how the kidnapper is willing to ransom the child to the family (although she has never made any ransom demands) but is not willing to return the child and collect the $225,000 reward.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by bluwaters


Thank you and your DH for helping in the search!
You are heros! :patriot: [/*]Yes. Repeat...

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by kakax
Don't know if you all saw this....


The Texas-based group EquuSearch is continuing to look for Caylee's body. More than 800 volunteers showed up to search Saturday.

Even with the increased turnout, they are still facing obstacles. The heat is taking its toll on volunteers. With temperatures reaching into the 90’s, EquuSearch had to call 911 when one woman suffered heat stroke.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html [/*]

I am not sure when the article was done but the nuber is probably closer to 1000 - 1500
I was in the 700's and the other searchers from her were over 1000

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by jammies
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


it's working [/*]

looks like they have opened up the side walk with all that yellow tape. I still say if someone sticks one of those signs in the yard again, the Anthony's have the right to throw it in the garbage, as for the doll, I would let my dog have a chew on it.

I don't understand why GA doesn't put up some nice sprinklers in his front yard, or put chemicals on the lawn. Better yet, why not get one of those Pods or a tent, that's what I would do. I am sure there are a few big dogs at the shelter that would love that front yard.

I am still mad we didn't get any new docs or leaks this weekend.

[day2day]

Originally posted by kitty1182



That tape in the street will probally have to come down.. [/*]

Just in case the Anthony's are reading (which i think they are)

With your new found wealth and all the time you have on your hands..between searches and all. You could just build a privacy fence. You would probly save a TON of money..:shrug:

jmo

[desmom]

Originally posted by chrissybot


No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya: [/*]

It was the night she called into Nancy Grace's show and said she didn't want people to search. I remember because I turned on NG's show as Cindy was going in the house. When NG said Cindy was on the phone, I thought that is why Cindy went in the house..she wanted to catch NG. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


OMG look at all the added Go Away tape

Just break out the sharpened spikes, put them in the ground and call it done! [/*]They focus on denial, so they don't have to face the ultimate conclusion. imo

[Chillin]

Originally posted by day2day


Obviously she took time out from answering the 1000's of calls she receives to come out and visit her "fans"...
Thanks Petey you really RAWK!

jmo [/*]Least she doesnt have the hammer

[Chillin]

Originally posted by day2day


Just in case the Anthony's are reading (which i think they are)

With your new found wealth and all the time you have on your hands..between searches and all. You could just build a privacy fence. You would probly save a TON of money..:shrug:

jmo [/*]Then they couldnt be seen..thats not their goal.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by chrissybot


No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya: [/*]

I was watching when she walked over to the cam.. like she was stalking us this time lol. She was laughing, didn't appear anyone else was home.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Chillin
Least she doesnt have the hammer [/*]

:o that is true! :read:

[jammies]

Originally posted by day2day


Just in case the Anthony's are reading (which i think they are)

With your new found wealth and all the time you have on your hands..between searches and all. You could just build a privacy fence. You would probly save a TON of money..:shrug:

jmo [/*]


Well, Casey has logged on to her myspace already today. I checked over an hour ago. Computers just buzzin' away at the Anthony house. google google google

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by kitty1182



That tape in the street will probally have to come down.. [/*]

is that tape going ACROSS the street?? Can't tell from this side angle.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
When was that? Why was she shaking the trees, then? :confused: [/*]

I think she was shaking the trees a day or so before she stood in front of the cam.. Amazing how she managed to keep herself front and center of the cam.. and the neighbors (or whoever she was talking to) managed to say to one side or the other of the camera.

[Kathlb]

Originally posted by kitty1182



That tape in the street will probally have to come down.. [/*]

:D They are probably worried about protesters tonight when they hold that vigil they do each week.

[keybored]

Howdy!

I've been away since last week so I haven't had any info until today about what's going on. I'm desperately trying to catch up, but one thing is confusing me:

What happened between Tim Miller and Cindy?

I thought she was ok with him coming to help with the search.
If someone would be so kind as to fill me in... a link or so would be fine.

TIA


:rose: for Caylee......

[beckyj]

Originally posted by shellzbi


Good Morning Scampi!

I saw Geraldo last evening as well and I truly believe that Lenny has some merit.

The man does not have a dog in this race anymore.

I believe him. [/*]

I agree that he's a little off and "different", JMO, but he has some merit to what he says from time to time. Ever heard the expression, "Crazy like a fox"? That's what I think of him.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by day2day


Just in case the Anthony's are reading (which i think they are)

With your new found wealth and all the time you have on your hands..between searches and all. You could just build a privacy fence. You would probly save a TON of money..:shrug:

jmo [/*]

So true..I hope they know the street doesn't belong to them..LOL

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7



lol
i wish i knew how ya'll did these searches on post...i've tried...i'm just an idiot i guess...

i just rely on you gifted people and reask hahaha


okay, well there's another post that i posted with a theory of maybe why there hasn't been a murder charge yet...
i think it was saturday morning...

and it was basically discussing what le has is evidence of a death...

what they may not have is the 'who'

who exactly....can they 100 percent put it on casey...
or
with the families contradicting statements, are they 'wondering'

who [/*]

They need to arrest Casey, Cindy, and George for the murder of Caylee and put the ball back in their court.

[day2day]

Originally posted by jammies



Well, Casey has logged on to her myspace already today. I checked over an hour ago. Computers just buzzin' away at the Anthony house. google google google [/*]

You are kidding me RIGHT? Well I suppose maybe she needed to see if the kidnappers left a link for the next script?!

[Spring]

What is that giant tire next to the garage?

[Chillin]

Originally posted by jammies



Well, Casey has logged on to her myspace already today. I checked over an hour ago. Computers just buzzin' away at the Anthony house. google google google [/*]

Hope shes not emailing that little girl anymore. Hope the parents put a stop to that.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce


LOL I just had a visual of their webcam pointing at the news webcam. Dueling webcams.

The floorplan of that house would have the two front windows being the spare bedrooms. I wonder if Casey is sitting in there looking through the slates of the blinds. Is she enjoying the attention or could it be sinking in to her that her lies have had a snowball effect and she should be brave and come clean?

Just thinking outloud I guess. [/*]

Nah, she's probably thinking about what color she should paint her toes next. I dont' think coming clean is on her agenda at all.

[ellegna]

Originally posted by day2day


omygod..LOOK at all that tape...They probly spend more on tape than i do on groceries a week..:no: JMO [/*]

Just opened the web cam. I see there's yellow ribbon tied all around the lawn again.

How sad TES volunteers are getting sick searching for their granddaughter and all they care about is securing their property.

Such wasted energy. :(

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by chrissybot


is that tape going ACROSS the street?? Can't tell from this side angle. [/*]

It looks like some of it is in the street to me.:shrug:

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by deep*fear


They need to arrest Casey, Cindy, and George for the murder of Caylee and put the ball back in their court. [/*]


That is the best idea I have heard yet. And it just might work.

[jammies]

Originally posted by day2day


You are kidding me RIGHT? Well I suppose maybe she needed to see if the kidnappers left a link for the next script?! [/*]



not kidding. Actually, I was suprised she was up! I picture her sleeping the day away.

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by jammies
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


it's working [/*]:eek: WTH is that in the driveway? A giant tire?

Just getting on here today. Sorry if this has already been discussed to death. :o


Edit to add: Whoa! It's gone now. I swear there was a giant tire in the driveway. Like taller than a human giant. :confused:

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by deep*fear


They need to arrest Casey, Cindy, and George for the murder of Caylee and put the ball back in their court. [/*]

That will be the number one way of getting a mistrial and ensuring no one will pay for the crimes committed against this little girl. Let's try to be reasonable.

;)

[day2day]

Originally posted by kitty1182


So true..I hope they know the street doesn't belong to them..LOL [/*]

I'm not sure what they think. I have always wanted to live in Florida. Right now I am happy I am not their neighbor. For many reasons ..:(

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by jammies
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


it's working [/*]

Wow.. Someone was real busy with the yellow tape since last night. I don't remember there being multiple pieces of it before...

The Anthony family must not care that the sidewalk is public property and have claimed it for their own.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by IdolHands



Psssst... If you want to find a previous post you made.. click on the search button at the bottom of your post... It will take you to a list of your posts .. with the date and time on the far right column. [/*]


oh wow, thanks...

that worked, now i'm no longer an idiot hahaha okay, well maybe i am...

here is the post

WinnieLeigh7
Member

Registered: Jun 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 610
i keep hearing these reporters allude to the reason no arrest has been made is because there is not enough evidence.

first of all, i don't believe that to be the case, i believe they are very well aware that caylee is dead and that they have more than enough evidence to prove that.

but what i'm starting to question is do that have enough to show at whose hands she died.

it's apparent casey is a big liar...
but it's also pretty apparent to me that the grandparents are less than honest themselves.

i brought up this theory last night...
not necessarily what i believe, well not really sure what to believe anymore...

but anyway

what if the 'fight' of the15th that neighbors reported, wasn't actually a 'fight' in the sense that we're thinking of...

what if that is when whatever happened, happened...

are we sure at whose hands, under whose care

but then the ''30 script'' took course and the cover up began...

is that what le is lacking...

not the evidence that she's dead, but the evidence of exactly who did it and who helped after the fact...

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by kakax
Don't know if you all saw this....


The Texas-based group EquuSearch is continuing to look for Caylee's body. More than 800 volunteers showed up to search Saturday.

Even with the increased turnout, they are still facing obstacles. The heat is taking its toll on volunteers. With temperatures reaching into the 90’s, EquuSearch had to call 911 when one woman suffered heat stroke.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html [/*]

:( All these people putting their own lives in danger. Dressed in pants to protect their legs as they walk through brush in the hot sun. While the Anthony's sit in their a/c fielding phone calls.

[martha]

Originally posted by Spring



He called another poster a moron. There was no excuse for that. [/*] ITA we or not here to call each other names. no reason for that. we or all here for caylee. If we can;t be nice to each other we need to stay of the board jmho:rose:

[Motomom]

Originally posted by jammies



Well, Casey has logged on to her myspace already today. I checked over an hour ago. Computers just buzzin' away at the Anthony house. google google google [/*]

Is her myspace still the same, you know looking for Caylee?

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Chevalier
:eek: WTH is that in the driveway? A giant tire?

Just getting on here today. Sorry if this has already been discussed to death. :o


Edit to add: Whoa! It's gone now. I swear there was a giant tire in the driveway. Like taller than a human giant. :confused: [/*]I feel so bad for the neighbors..that yard looks like a crime scene.

[SandyO]

Originally posted by chrissybot


No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya: [/*]

I watched that whole thing too, Chrissy. I thought then, as I've thought many times before, that Cindy is drinking. Of course, who could blame her?

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by day2day


Just in case the Anthony's are reading (which i think they are)

With your new found wealth and all the time you have on your hands..between searches and all. You could just build a privacy fence. You would probly save a TON of money..:shrug:

jmo [/*]

Many HOA will not allow you to put a fence in the front yard or have very specific rules regarding fences.

[day2day]

Originally posted by jammies




not kidding. Actually, I was suprised she was up! I picture her sleeping the day away. [/*]

And miss her fans? or more hints...! not casey-she is up bright and early :)

[jammies]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Wow.. Someone was real busy with the yellow tape since last night. I don't remember there being multiple pieces of it before...

The Anthony family must not care that the sidewalk is public property and have claimed it for their own. [/*]


such arrogance. Guess they have quite a bit of time on their hands in between meeting with lawyers and calling NG.

[Chillin]

Can I get a link to her MYSpace please?

[OneUp]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Since apparently now the anthony's are flush, having the Benjamins to secure the $500,000 for their psychopath's bail, perhaps they can spare a few bucks and hire a private investigator to search for the beloved granddaughter that they are convinced is alive and well. [/*]I have wondered myself why Caseys parents would put up the 50,000.00 for her bail rather than put their resources towards hiring a P.I. or going themselves to some of the locations which they "believe" Caylee has been at since her disappearance. Casey may not be happy in jail, but she is safe. The best and most sure why to prove Casey's innocence is to produce a live Caylee OR evidence that she has been alive since the day of her purported dissappearance. Not to mention that it may be the CHEAPEST defense and would have the added benefit of finding a live grandbaby...
...Something we certainly hope that they want as much as they claim to. IMO, there is little evidence that George and Cindy are motivated to invest time, money, or energy into searching for Caylee alive or otherwise.
I can't imagine celebrating my birthday or grandparents day while I wondered if my little one was eating or scared or being harmed...or asking where her "CiCi" was and thinking I had abandonded her...
JMHO.

[kakax]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


TY kakax

:( I hope that woman will be OK.

I'm just going to bite my fingers from typing what I wanna say about the A's . [/*]


Hard to do, I'm going to have to sit on my hands.

[jammies]

Originally posted by Chillin
I feel so bad for the neighbors..that yard looks like a crime scene. [/*]



Bet the home value on that street has gone down the tubes.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by chrissybot


No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya: [/*]

I will back you up.. I was lurking here that evening and had the cam up in another browser...

[panokatana]

Originally posted by jammies



Well, Casey has logged on to her myspace already today. I checked over an hour ago. Computers just buzzin' away at the Anthony house. google google google [/*]

I wonder if she is allowing people to post on it (her myspace)...because if she is...I'm sure they aren't posting nice things or inviting her to Fusian. I'm hope she does read what her "friends" are writing now. I bet TonE hasn't written much to her..."beeeecause he's" not her "boyfriend and hasn't talked" to her "since" she was "ohhh...arrested on a *in whim."

JMO

[Motomom]

when someone is on house arrest I thought they were allowed to go out to at least get their mail. I thought they were allowed so many feet away from the house? It is probably different with each person, but I'd like to see Casey out there at her daughters vigil.

[Velouria]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


:( All these people putting their own lives in danger. Dressed in pants to protect their legs as they walk through brush in the hot sun. While the Anthony's sit in their a/c fielding phone calls. [/*]

Well someone has to field all those reported Caylee sightings from Bora Bora and outer Mongolia!

[jammies]

Originally posted by Anakerie


I will back you up.. I was lurking here that evening and had the cam up in another browser... [/*]



Me too. I posted that I actually felt a bit sorry for her.....she did seem lonely.
But she left the neighbors just in time to run inside and call NG.

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


:( All these people putting their own lives in danger. Dressed in pants to protect their legs as they walk through brush in the hot sun. While the Anthony's sit in their a/c fielding phone calls. [/*]

msgator - there are a lot of people out there how are in agreement with a lot of the views we feel - more of us than on the side of the anthonys'

yes it was hot - and thank god for pants - but the briar/sticker bushes go right thru them - got the battle scars to prove it ....
but from the team I was on - no one complained about the heat or conditions or having to walk thru the muddy waters - we were there for Caylee - not anyone else -

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by chrissybot


No, that happened, maybe the beginning of this past week. Around dusk. She seemed to be lonely-IMO, nothing at all was going on at the house, & she just seemed to walk over to the news crew, she seemed to speak with them for about 10 minutes, laughing also, then just went back inside. JMO. Can someone else verify who was watching along with me this evening in question???:seeya: [/*]I was watching the cam live when she was out there in front of the web cam. I really don't recall how many days ago it was. Perhaps the beginning of last week 5 or so days, maybe. I didn't get the impression she intentionally placed herself in front of the web cam. I envision cameras lined up all along that side of the street anyway and I doubt she pegged it for a web cam. I'm sure she was in the line of fire of many cameras.

[desmom]

Originally posted by keybored
Howdy!

I've been away since last week so I haven't had any info until today about what's going on. I'm desperately trying to catch up, but one thing is confusing me:

What happened between Tim Miller and Cindy?

I thought she was ok with him coming to help with the search.
If someone would be so kind as to fill me in... a link or so would be fine.

TIA


:rose: for Caylee...... [/*]

On 9/2/08, Cindy called in to NG's show (approx. 1/2 down the page) http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

On 9/4, Cindy released a statement to the media. http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/17388359/detail.html

[jmgos1]

Originally posted by Chillin
I feel so bad for the neighbors..that yard looks like a crime scene. [/*]

Looks more like a circus to me.

[Unsolved]

OK, I have a theory, please read and poke holes in it if you see any. I'm just going on what I've read, I certainly don't have any inside information:
Casey killed beautiful Caylee and her body was decomposing in the trunk. She backed the car into the driveway and removed the body and placed it in the playhouse so it could not be seen. She borrowed the shovel and dug a hole under the sandbox to bury the baby. (dogs hit on playhouse and sandbox area)

When George retrived the car from the storage area, he smelled decompsition in the car. HE located the body under the sandbox.
(They searched the yard before LE arrived). He placed the little body back in Casey's car and disposed of it. (Casey only showed emotion while George was on the stand) George and Cindy cleaned the car and the clothes that were in the car.

I also have my personal theory as to where the chloroform came from...I think that George kept it on hand to stiffle Cindy and Casey so that he could watch his food show in peace and quiet!

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by jammies



Now they have the tape in the street! lol [/*]
I think the Anthony's like to stir the pot too. Is all that really necessary..I think not.. MOO

[jammies]

Originally posted by panokatana


I wonder if she is allowing people to post on it (her myspace)...because if she is...I'm sure they aren't posting nice things or inviting her to Fusian. I'm hope she does read what her "friends" are writing now. I bet TonE hasn't written much to her..."beeeecause he's" not her "boyfriend and hasn't talked" to her "since" she was "ohhh...arrested on a *in whim."

JMO [/*]


Poor TonE. He ate her food, slept with her...........egads! I would be in decontamination mode.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by day2day


You are kidding me RIGHT? Well I suppose maybe she needed to see if the kidnappers left a link for the next script?! [/*]

My thoughts too day. GMTA. I was picturing Cindy saying that Case was searching on her own, searching the world wide web for the kidnappers....;) jmo

[desmom]

Originally posted by Chevalier
:eek: WTH is that in the driveway? A giant tire?

Just getting on here today. Sorry if this has already been discussed to death. :o


Edit to add: Whoa! It's gone now. I swear there was a giant tire in the driveway. Like taller than a human giant. :confused: [/*]

IMO, it was spare tire mounted on the front of a passing sports vehicle.

[mojito]

Originally posted by IdolHands


BRINGING THIS OVER FROM FRIDAY NIGHT****

WinnieLeigh7
Member

Registered: Jun 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 609
REPOST FOR THOUGHTS
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN CIRCLED REPEATEDLY...BUT I HAVE JUST A FEW SIMPLE 'DATE' QUESTIONS...

FIRST, WHY IS THIS FAMILY ALWAYS SPEAKING IN 'DAY' TERMS

SUCH AS MY DAUGHTER/GRANDDAUGHTER HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR 31 DAYS
VS. A MONTH OR OVER A MONTH AS 'NORMAL' PEOPLE WOULD DO

OR, THE PIZZA HAS BEEN IN THE CAR FOR 12 DAYS, IN THE HEAT...
VS. 2 WEEKS OR WHATEVER

MOST PEOPLE SPEAK IN 'GENERAL' TERMS YET THE ANTHONY ATTEMPT TO BE SPECIFIC WITH EXACT DAYS....


SO OKAY, LETS GO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A EX LE AND A NURSE, MAYBE IT'S THEIR 'CAREERS' THAT MAKE THEM SPECIFIC

31 DAYS BACK FROM THE TIME THE FIRST 911 CALL WAS MADE, WAS JUNE 14TH

12 DAYS BEFORE THE CAR WAS PICKED UP WAS JULY 3RD, WHICH WE KNOW THE CAR WAS AT AMSCOT FROM JUNE 27-30TH BEFORE THEY TOWED IT

JUNE 9TH WAS THE DATE THE ENTIRE FAMILY STATED ORIGINALLY THEY LAST SAW CAYLEE...I SO VERY MUCH FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE ENTIRE FAMILY MISSED THIS DATE BTW

UNTIL CINDY WAS CONFRONTED ABOUT THE FATHER'S DAY VISIT, AND AS A 'SPECIFIC' DAY PERSON, SHOULD HAVE RECALLED SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DATE AS A HOLIDAY---FATHER'S DAY, CORRECT

AND JUST WHERE IS THE 12 DAYS COMING INTO PLAY, IS SHE SUGGESTING THAT WHOEVER PLACED THIS 'OTHER' DEAD BODY IN THE TRUNK CHOWED DOWN ON PIZZA AND PLACED IT IN THERE TOO...



---------------------------------------------------------------


ANOTHER POSSIBLE THEORY...

WHAT IF WHATEVER HAPPENED HAPPENED THAT WEEKEND AT THE HOUSE...

AND IT WASN'T 'FIGHTING' THAT THE NEIGHBORS HEARD, BUT JUST 'SCREAMING'...PANIC...

AND THEN THE PLAN STARTED

BY ALL THAT WAS THERE

AM I MAKING SENSE

****************************

Winnie .. You are thinking exactly what I'm thinking. [/*]


**don't forget, Cindy wrote on her myspace page on JULY 3rd about losing her angel.....

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by jammies




Bet the home value on that street has gone down the tubes. [/*]

You can't blame people... who knows how long protestors and cameras will be there? Who knows if Casey buried evidence in neighboring yards that will have to be dug up.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by jammies



Poor TonE. He ate her food, slept with her...........egads! I would be in decontamination mode. [/*]

Warning next time please. I too wonder if TonE gets skeered sometimes.

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


My thoughts too day. GMTA. I was picturing Cindy saying that Case was searching on her own, searching the world wide web for the kidnappers....;) jmo [/*]


more likely trying to find another name to add to the list of the person who has Caylee -

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by desmom


It was the night she called into Nancy Grace's show and said she didn't want people to search. I remember because I turned on NG's show as Cindy was going in the house. When NG said Cindy was on the phone, I thought that is why Cindy went in the house..she wanted to catch NG. jmo [/*]Bingo!

Yes, we watched her in the street, then she went in the house and before long she was on the phone with NG.

[Chillin]

Originally posted by deep*fear


You can't blame people... who knows how long protestors and cameras will be there? Who knows if Casey buried evidence in neighboring yards that will have to be dug up. [/*]I serious doubt that. I'd notice a fresh grave in my yard wouldnt you?

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by onedarksun


msgator - there are a lot of people out there how are in agreement with a lot of the views we feel - more of us than on the side of the anthonys'

yes it was hot - and thank god for pants - but the briar/sticker bushes go right thru them - got the battle scars to prove it ....
but from the team I was on - no one complained about the heat or conditions or having to walk thru the muddy waters - we were there for Caylee - not anyone else - [/*]

Oh, I know nobody was complaining. People went with Caylee in mind and nothing else. But we've read stories of a person in a wheel chair showing up. Some of our own posters from outta State driving through the night w/o sleep to get here. Medical attention needed for a searcher cause of the heat. All these strangers coming together for Caylee - while her own family tells us to go f ourselves, basically.

THAT is so wrong.:flamemad:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Anakerie


I think she was shaking the trees a day or so before she stood in front of the cam.. Amazing how she managed to keep herself front and center of the cam.. and the neighbors (or whoever she was talking to) managed to say to one side or the other of the camera. [/*]TY. Good observation, Ana.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by deep*fear


Many HOA will not allow you to put a fence in the front yard or have very specific rules regarding fences. [/*]

If they have a HOA, surely they would not allow the yellow tape either.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by mojito



**don't forget, Cindy wrote on her myspace page on JULY 3rd about losing her angel..... [/*]

Please expound on your theory mo...:(

ETA...

I agree the words are DAMNING in and of themselves and IF I WERE looking for evidence to support my theory those entries would be on my list. I can easily see how LE started building their case from those little blurbs and 31 days....JMOOC.:(

[jammies]

Originally posted by Chillin
I serious doubt that. I'd notice a fresh grave in my yard wouldnt you? [/*]


Especially on those postage stamp lots.

[day2day]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


My thoughts too day. GMTA. I was picturing Cindy saying that Case was searching on her own, searching the world wide web for the kidnappers....;) jmo [/*]


It is exactly what she would say. More tips on the "live" Caylee..
With all the tips you think ONE of em would hop a plane. We ALL know they can afford it.
jmo

[Chillin]

Caseys doing her own online investigation now that she isnt allowed to party..ooops I mean go to bars and investigate.:D

[GrannyB]

snipped

Originally posted by Unsolved
[car.

I also have my personal theory as to where the chloroform came from...I think that George kept it on hand to stiffle Cindy and Casey so that he could watch his food show in peace and quiet! [/*]



:lol:

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by desmom


It was the night she called into Nancy Grace's show and said she didn't want people to search. I remember because I turned on NG's show as Cindy was going in the house. When NG said Cindy was on the phone, I thought that is why Cindy went in the house..she wanted to catch NG. jmo [/*]

desmom your right. TY for refreshing my memory on the NG phonecall!!

[martha]

How do they get away with putting the yellow tape passed the side walk the side walk does not belong to them. It is crazy what all these pepole get away with. jmho:rose:

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by Chevalier
Bingo!

Yes, we watched her in the street, then she went in the house and before long she was on the phone with NG. [/*]

It was the night TM was on NG and everyone started emailing NG because they thought she was rude.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by Unsolved
--snip---

I also have my personal theory as to where the chloroform came from...I think that George kept it on hand to stiffle Cindy and Casey so that he could watch his food show in peace and quiet! [/*]


:lol:

and if you were a detective, i would conclude that your cases remain ''unsolved'' lol

i'm just kiddin'...seriously, just a joke ha-ha

but that's funny

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by keybored
Howdy!

I've been away since last week so I haven't had any info until today about what's going on. I'm desperately trying to catch up, but one thing is confusing me:

What happened between Tim Miller and Cindy?

I thought she was ok with him coming to help with the search.
If someone would be so kind as to fill me in... a link or so would be fine.

TIA


:rose: for Caylee...... [/*]

Welcome back! Cindy is miffed at Tim because he is searching the area near the airport the LE wants him to search, and not taking all his teams and going to Texas, Puerto Rico and Mexico, like Cindy wants. She insists he should only look for a live Caylee, and he's looking for her alive or dead.

JMO

[MissTiff]

Originally posted by onedarksun
sorry -I am jumping pages ahead because I am fed up with a certain poster who seems so convinced that everyone should be searching for a "live "Caylee - and a bunch us know which poster I am referring to - maybe that poster should come on down to the command center in Orlando and help with the search - I bet it would be a sobering experience - and maybe then she would be a lot less nasty to people on the board - I think that the good ol' ignore button will be coming into play with that poster -

In my opinion - this particular poster has more or less slapped the faces of those who have gone and searched - at least that is how I feel - [/*]

:rose: Thank you OneDarkSun & hubby :rose:

Wish I could have been with you all!

T

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by mojito



**don't forget, Cindy wrote on her myspace page on JULY 3rd about losing her angel..... [/*]

omgosh, you're right...totally didn't connect that date

[Spring]

Originally posted by Unsolved
OK, I have a theory, please read and poke holes in it if you see any. I'm just going on what I've read, I certainly don't have any inside information:
Casey killed beautiful Caylee and her body was decomposing in the trunk. She backed the car into the driveway and removed the body and placed it in the playhouse so it could not be seen. She borrowed the shovel and dug a hole under the sandbox to bury the baby. (dogs hit on playhouse and sandbox area)

When George retrived the car from the storage area, he smelled decompsition in the car. HE located the body under the sandbox.
(They searched the yard before LE arrived). He placed the little body back in Casey's car and disposed of it. (Casey only showed emotion while George was on the stand) George and Cindy cleaned the car and the clothes that were in the car.

I also have my personal theory as to where the chloroform came from...I think that George kept it on hand to stiffle Cindy and Casey so that he could watch his food show in peace and quiet! [/*]


Good theory. I can't help but wonder if George had Caylee in that big white tool box/cooler. Where is that anyway?

[shellzbi]

Originally posted by beckyj


I agree that he's a little off and "different", JMO, but he has some merit to what he says from time to time. Ever heard the expression, "Crazy like a fox"? That's what I think of him. [/*]

I sure have. I agree. LE didn't lose his number. I'm sure they are in contact.

You gotta remember his guy was in that house for as long as Casey was out of jail the first time. I think his name is Rob Dick?

[st777jo]

Originally posted by Chillin
Then they couldnt be seen..thats not their goal. [/*]

Ain't that the truth.

Also, shouldn't some on here be more concerned about any of the Anthony's telling where Caylee is? Then they wouldn't have to be so concerned about the tape or the protesters around the house. I don't have a problem with the protesters. I have a problem with the no respect or decency coming from the Anthony's on where is Caylee.
jmo, jo

[Katprint]

Originally posted by kitty1182
It looks like some of it is in the street to me.:shrug:
I think she outlined all four sides of the parking strip with it. Then, as the plastic heated up, it stretched and sagged the way that thin plastic tends to do and so now it is hanging down into the gutter.

I'm not sure if the Anthonys have the legal right to keep the public off of their parking strip. I don't know about their town but in my town the city actually owns the parking strips and the land up to the furthest edge of the sidewalk, and merely allows the adjacent property owner to have free use of it. Thus the passengers of people parking at the curb can get out of the car on the passenger side without "trespassing" on the adjacent owner's property. The city also has rules about what the homeowner can plant/build on that parking strip, to make sure that pedestrian visibility is good, that passenger loading/unloading is not impaired, etc.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by SandyO


I watched that whole thing too, Chrissy. I thought then, as I've thought many times before, that Cindy is drinking. Of course, who could blame her? [/*]

I'm gonna agree with you there. I heard her slurrring one night in an interview, didn't know if it was medication or booze. I can't blame her either though!! JMO JMO JMO

[WinnieLeigh7]

what was the date of casey's everyone lies, everyone dies post

[mojito]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


omgosh, you're right...totally didn't connect that date [/*]


I really don't have any theory, per se, but it did ring a bell with me when this was posted that July 3rd had been brought up as a date before...then I remembered about Cindy's post. Maybe just a coincidence; however....

On a side note - has Casey ever backed off of her 6/9 date?

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Oh, I know nobody was complaining. People went with Caylee in mind and nothing else. But we've read stories of a person in a wheel chair showing up. Some of our own posters from outta State driving through the night w/o sleep to get here. Medical attention needed for a searcher cause of the heat. All these strangers coming together for Caylee - while her own family tells us to go f ourselves, basically.

THAT is so wrong.:flamemad: [/*]

two of our girls were from out of state and they met up with another poster who drove probably 2- 2.5 hours to get to Orlando - and neither of the out of state girls had slept the night before - personally I know how exhautsed I was last night so I can only imagine how they were -
When we were waiting to go back out - a girl was signing in that was from Maine -

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by mojito



**don't forget, Cindy wrote on her myspace page on JULY 3rd about losing her angel..... [/*]

I bet they got the notice for the car way sooner than they admit. I bet they KNEW way sooner and went into protection mode from July 3 to July 15

[Chillin]

Originally posted by eours1949


What forensics have confirmed this?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom [/*]

The links section is filled with reports on the air test and the hair etc. Check it out..interesting reading.

[cassidy]

Originally posted by OneUp
I can't imagine celebrating my birthday or grandparents day while I wondered if my little one was eating or scared or being harmed...or asking where her "CiCi" was and thinking I had abandonded her...
JMHO. [/*]

I had my 2 year old granddaughter last nite. She woke up at 2 AM sobbing for her Daddy. it took about 10 mins to calm her down and get her back to sleep. I mean this kid was simply pathetic in her misery and she MISSED her Daddy. But it struck me..don't these people worry about things like that with Caylee? Even if they firmly believe that Caylee was kidnapped why are they doing NOTHING? She's 3 years old, old enough to realize that people are missing from her life. Why are they giving Casey a pass. Why aren't they making her talk? Why aren't they searching? I just find it incredible.

JMO

[bluwaters]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
what was the date of casey's everyone lies, everyone dies post [/*]

July 7

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by MissTiff


:rose: Thank you OneDarkSun & hubby :rose:

Wish I could have been with you all!

T [/*]

trust me - myself and the other girls very much had many of you in our thoughts yesterday -

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by desmom


IMO, it was spare tire mounted on the front of a passing sports vehicle. [/*]Did you actualy see it? I see now that Spring saw it. I don't think it was at the right angle to have been on a vehicle driving down the street. It was huge too.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by bluwaters


July 7 [/*]

so it was after grandma's

hhmmm

[mojito]

Casey left the "Everybody lies, everybody dies" post on July 7th
Source: zimbio.com

[Kathlb]

I think I read that the ankle monitor allows her to get 150 feet from it. She was out in Lee's car yesterday talking to him so surely she can go to the vigil for Caylee. She won't though IMHO.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


so it was after grandma's

hhmmm [/*]

I think they were playing mind games with one another over the internet. JMO

[chrissybot]

Originally posted by PeteyRawks


The stills I posted were from Wednesday, September 3rd. I didn't catch her any other time, though.

Maybe she'll come out later today so she can test her new home cam and watch her performance over and over. :D [/*]

:lol:

[WinnieLeigh7]

where was casey getting computer access

did she have this laptop with her or did it remain in the home

was she using friends computer while she was 'gone for a month', if so have they been examined

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Miami Mania


In defense of GA on the yard thing, the city does own that swill of property but the property owner is the one responsible for keeping it mowed. I don't blame him for not wanting them there. You can already see the damage to that area. Also can you imagine how the neighbor across the street must be feeling with a big news truck parked in front of their home 24/7? [/*]

But the public has right to use the sidewalk.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Oh, I know nobody was complaining. People went with Caylee in mind and nothing else. But we've read stories of a person in a wheel chair showing up. Some of our own posters from outta State driving through the night w/o sleep to get here. Medical attention needed for a searcher cause of the heat. All these strangers coming together for Caylee - while her own family tells us to go f ourselves, basically.

THAT is so wrong.:flamemad: [/*]
:rose: God bless each and every searcher! I'm with them in spirit. It is so humbling to see the love and dedication that people are showing for one of our children. In my work I often felt frustrated by how little neighbors, families, and communities seemed to care for our precious little ones...people who give of themselves like these searchers have are like a cool drink for my parched soul. They restore my faith in my fellow Humankind.:rose:

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


I think they were playing mind games with one another over the internet. JMO [/*]


Think about the things Casey said to Cindy on the 911 call and in the jail conversations. Something isn't right about Cindy.

[WinnieLeigh7]

and amy's car that casey was driving...

was it searched

[forensicsgal]

Originally posted by cassidy


I had my 2 year old granddaughter last nite. She woke up at 2 AM sobbing for her Daddy. it took about 10 mins to calm her down and get her back to sleep. I mean this kid was simply pathetic in her misery and she MISSED her Daddy. But it struck me..don't these people worry about things like that with Caylee? Even if they firmly believe that Caylee was kidnapped why are they doing NOTHING? She's 3 years old, old enough to realize that people are missing from her life. Why are they giving Casey a pass. Why aren't they making her talk? Why aren't they searching? I just find it incredible.

JMO [/*]

because the family already knows that Caylee is dead by the hands of Casey. They're trying to salvage Casey now!! IMO Which is pretty crappy to the Tim Miller team and everyone else out there searching.

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


so it was after grandma's

hhmmm [/*]

Like a response, imo.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Miami Mania


In defense of GA on the yard thing, the city does own that swill of property but the property owner is the one responsible for keeping it mowed. I don't blame him for not wanting them there. You can already see the damage to that area. Also can you imagine how the neighbor across the street must be feeling with a big news truck parked in front of their home 24/7? [/*]

If it wasn't for deed restrictions they'd probably toss up a tall privacy fence. I know I would.

Yeah, I've made fun of the web cam just like everyone else. But I think its wrong. That cam shouldn't be there.

[Unsolved]

and if you were a detective, i would conclude that your cases remain ''unsolved'' lol

i'm just kiddin'...seriously, just a joke ha-ha

but that's funny

No offense taken...I do feel sorry for anyone who has to live with Cindy and Casey and couldn't blame him if he did stiffle them with the chloroform.

[deep*fear]

Originally posted by Motomom


If they have a HOA, surely they would not allow the yellow tape either. [/*]

but it's not expensive or difficult to remove the tape as it is to remove a fence. Also, neighbors are less likely to complain and demand the HOA DO something about the tape than a permanent type structure.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by forensicsgal


because the family already knows that Caylee is dead by the hands of Casey. They're trying to salvage Casey now!! IMO Which is pretty crappy to the Tim Miller team and everyone else out there searching. [/*]

i agree..

[chrissybot]

I'm not very tech savy, & sorry if this has been asked but, IS there a way for LE or someone to monitor her computer use, browsing, searching & things like that, AS she is surfing or on the computer. Like, in REAL time? Do you know what I mean? I am assuming it can be done, but I'm not sure??

[martha]

I guess I can;t feel sorry for any of the anthony;s because there is one way to stop all this mess they or having to put up with.that is for casey to talk. CASEY can stop all this now.today. I am sure the people on that street would love for casey to talk. what is casey doing on her computer enjoying life.jmho:rose:

[Chevalier]

Originally posted by Miami Mania


In defense of GA on the yard thing, the city does own that swill of property but the property owner is the one responsible for keeping it mowed. I don't blame him for not wanting them there. You can already see the damage to that area. Also can you imagine how the neighbor across the street must be feeling with a big news truck parked in front of their home 24/7? [/*]

That's all well and good, but I've seen the Anthony's telling media to get off their side of the street and back over to the other side of the street where they belong. They are sooo inconsiderate. They don't want media in front of their house, but are willing to impose on their neighbors and direct the media in front of their yards.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by deep*fear


Like a response, imo. [/*]

yea it is

[Spring]

Originally posted by Chevalier
Did you actualy see it? I see now that Spring saw it. I don't think it was at the right angle to have been on a vehicle driving down the street. It was huge too. [/*]


I don't think it was a passing vehicle Chev. I looked at it several times and it appeared right up against the garage,

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by Unsolved
and if you were a detective, i would conclude that your cases remain ''unsolved'' lol

i'm just kiddin'...seriously, just a joke ha-ha

but that's funny

No offense taken...I do feel sorry for anyone who has to live with Cindy and Casey and couldn't blame him if he did stiffle them with the chloroform. [/*]

lol you have a point there

[concernedmom]

Does anyone know if alot of searchers have come out today and the area they are searching.?

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by martha
I guess I can;t feel sorry for any of the anthony;s because there is one way to stop all this mess they or having to put up with.that is for casey to talk. CASEY can stop all this now.today. I am sure the people on that street would love for casey to talk. what is casey doing on her computer enjoying life.jmho:rose: [/*]
So true..All Casey has to do is tell the truth about what really happen..
IMO she has no right to a computer while on house arrest..

[rainydays]

can someone please post the link to the live cam in fron tof the anthony's??TIA

[CinTN]

I had to share this ,, I seen this pic around,, it was a screen capture from yesterday... but whats on it is a first..

http://i34.tinypic.com/o609zs.jpg



:lol:

[keybored]

Originally posted by desmom


On 9/2/08, Cindy called in to NG's show (approx. 1/2 down the page) http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

On 9/4, Cindy released a statement to the media. http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/17388359/detail.html [/*]

Thank you very much.

[onedarksun]

Originally posted by concernedmom
Does anyone know if alot of searchers have come out today and the area they are searching.? [/*]


dogs and searchers are going back to the area behind the parents house - do not know what they are searching or why -

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by CinTN
I had to share this ,, I seen this pic around,, it was a screen capture from yesterday... but whats on it is a first..

http://i34.tinypic.com/o609zs.jpg



:lol: [/*]


:lol: i remember seeing that dude with his lil binky hat

[forensicnut]

Originally posted by rainydays
can someone please post the link to the live cam in fron tof the anthony's??TIA [/*]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

It looks like crime scene tape? Also, the no trespassing signs are gone.