Caylee Anthony A.M thread 09/06/08

[nutterbutter]

Good morning all.Please continue here as there are over 1000 post and this thread will be locked soon.Thanks and please follow me to morning thread.

[luvinlife]

Bringing over from other thread


I really don't know what this means but it doesn't sound good


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-...0,4836790.story

[luvinlife]

Thanks for the new thread

[luvinlife]

lol I answered you on the last thread, bringing over


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Originally posted by Dragon



Most likely the wheel chocks he removed from the trunk of Casey's car when the gas cans were returned.

If they were trying to get evidence of Caylee in his car, they would impound the car, not just remove something from the trunk.

I have a feeling they're going to test the wheel chocks to see if they have any type of residue on them. [/*]
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Did GA ever say that he actually took those out of Casey's trunk that we know of.

And why take them now in the middle of the night.
I can think of a couple of reasons, no web cam on right now, heard something on the bugs i assume are planted in the house.

but why such a secret for those wheel chocks.

[luvinlife]

Originally posted by Dragon


It would seem 3am is about the only time they could do anything without having 100 cameras buzzing and clicking.

It's also possible George or Cindy called them to get something very specific. [/*]


Yes you could be right.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by luvinlife
Bringing over from other thread


I really don't know what this means but it doesn't sound good


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-...0,4836790.story [/*]


Bringing my over from other thread.

Especially from the wheel well. Maybe a neighbor saw something?

[luvinlife]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Bringing my over from other thread.

Especially from the wheel well. Maybe a neighbor saw something? [/*]


Possibly

[cuddlyrunner]

don't yell, just woke up over here and am going to try to catch up. Would someone give me a quick rundown on the last 12 hours and the camera link again? x

[starling]

Originally posted by luvinlife
Bringing over from other thread


I really don't know what this means but it doesn't sound good


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-...0,4836790.story [/*]

from your link~
September 6, 2008 2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony's father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence


~Maybe it is his 'tire tool' George had gone looking for in Casey's trunk when he discovered the cans. Possibly the tire tool has trace evidence frm Casey's trunk

[luvinlife]

Originally posted by cuddlyrunner
don't yell, just woke up over here and am going to try to catch up. Would someone give me a quick rundown on the last 12 hours and the camera link again? x [/*]


No real news except for the above, LE getting something out of GA's wheel well.

20/20 special (in links thread) pretty good. nothing we didn't already know.

I can't really think of anything else sorry

[cuddlyrunner]

thank you-is George at home?

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by cuddlyrunner
thank you-is George at home? [/*]




I guess he is or at least his car was there at 3:00am

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Bratlings
Well it seems LE is starting to view them as accomplices after the fact I guess. Explains their own attorney! tsk tsk. :no: [/*]


I don't see how LE cannot look at all three of them. Maybe that's why they haven't filed murder charges yet. They want to be sure they charge the right person.

edit for lousy spelling

[GrannyB]

3am was a strange time for them to go get evidence out of George's car.

[VC2]

wheel chucks make sense to me, bc if they did think it was caylee evidence the car would be in the police's hands right now.

i don't think the hour means anything given the circus, can you imagine going to get anything when everyones up..protesters etc. Probably sent over 2 shift cops to pick em up at a quiet time

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by VC2
wheel chucks make sense to me, bc if they did think it was caylee evidence the car would be in the police's hands right now.

i don't think the hour means anything given the circus, can you imagine going to get anything when everyones up..protesters etc. Probably sent over 2 shift cops to pick em up at a quiet time [/*]


I hope it keeps everyone in that house from going back to sleep tonight.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Bratlings



Yes, but George has been out all day & night lately so they had to catch him unaware at night I think. Besides we learned on NG but I had heard before it is normal procedure to serve warrants in the middle of the night. People are home and usually more cooperative when woken up. [/*]


Cooperative and Anthony's ??? That would be a first:)

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by TREE TREE
I do wonder about them hiring a criminal attorney.........why just 1?? Maybe he is really just for one of them and they do not want to say which one. The Ramseys each hired attorneys which makes since. Why 1?? [/*]


I hadn't thought of that. They really should each have one.

[tybek]

I've been unable to follow the case this last week, and I've a question...

when is the last time Lee was seen or spoke with the media? Has he been around this past week? IIRC I haven't seen him in a while. Any chance he is distancing himself from this messed up family situation?

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Bratlings
But this also makes sense since Baez was there so late last night, I wonder if he is still there even. :shrug: [/*]


I wish they had the web cam on. I think the ariel is but it doesn't show except on the top half. His car was there last night but I don't know how late.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Bratlings



How do I find the aerial link? [/*]



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck20mobilecam.html

I don't know how to make it a link but there's the adress.

[GrannyB]

LOL I guess I do know how to link.

[morson]

Originally posted by Dragon


Most likely the wheel chocks he removed from the trunk of Casey's car when the gas cans were returned.

If they were trying to get evidence of Caylee in his car, they would impound the car, not just remove something from the trunk.

I have a feeling they're going to test the wheel chocks to see if they have any type of residue on them. [/*]

That makes sense. The timing is very interesting. I think that the evidence of chloroform confirms what most of us have suspected--George and Cindy are AAF (at least). One, or both of them, did clean the trunk of the car--they missed one or more hairs and, mistakenly, thought chloroform got rid of all of the decomp. That is why they waited so long after getting the car to call LE. Bet they were shocked when the dogs hit on the car!

[morson]

Originally posted by GrannyB
3am was a strange time for them to go get evidence out of George's car. [/*]

I think that they are sending a message to George and Cindy. Wouldn't it be interesting if they arrested one of them for AAF, preferably Cindy. I actually think that George might come clean if Cindy was sitting in jail. But then, who knows with these liars.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by morson


I think that they are sending a message to George and Cindy. Wouldn't it be interesting if they arrested one of them for AAF, preferably Cindy. I actually think that George might come clean if Cindy was sitting in jail. But then, who knows with these liars. [/*]


I agree about George. I think if any one will break and start talking it will be him.

[tybek]

Originally posted by GrannyB



I agree about George. I think if any one will break and start talking it will be him. [/*]

I think he would be the most likely to crack too, provided that he really knew anything. That said, I'm not sure he knows what Cindy knows. Then again, maybe I am underestimating George. After all, he was the one in LE...maybe if one of the parents knows more and is involved with aiding in a coverup, then he is the one primarily involved.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by tybek


I think he would be the most likely to crack too, provided that he really knew anything. That said, I'm not sure he knows what Cindy knows. Then again, maybe I am underestimating George. After all, he was the one in LE...maybe if one of the parents knows more and is involved with aiding in a coverup, then he is the one primarily involved. [/*]



Maybe George thinks he covering up for one when it's really the other and he just doesn't know it. This could make you crazy trying to figure it out. At this point until more info I'm betting Cindy is the one who is going to be in big big trouble. She's the boss.

[ilovemylife]

Good morning!

I'm really hoping that the report stating that the case is going to unfold rather quickley from here on out is true.

Maybe removing that evidence from Georges' trunk is a part of that. :)

[GrannyB]

Has anyone heard where George was on Father's Day? Any pictures of him on Father's Day?

[tybek]

Originally posted by GrannyB




Maybe George thinks he covering up for one when it's really the other and he just doesn't know it. This could make you crazy trying to figure it out. At this point until more info I'm betting Cindy is the one who is going to be in big big trouble. She's the boss. [/*]

My guess would be that George has watched the sparks fly between these 2 women for years and that he has done his best to duck and run from it all. That said, I would see him more as Cindy's lap dog that Casey's...I think Cindy wore the pants in the family. So if George is covering for anyone, I'd guess it is for Cindy or because Cindy told/is telling him to. JMO

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by Dragon


It would seem 3am is about the only time they could do anything without having 100 cameras buzzing and clicking.

It's also possible George or Cindy called them to get something very specific. [/*]
I can not see GP asking le to pick up anything that would help le in there quest for justice for Caylee.moo

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife
Good morning!

I'm really hoping that the report stating that the case is going to unfold rather quickley from here on out is true.

Maybe removing that evidence from Georges' trunk is a part of that. :) [/*]

Boy, I really hope so too...

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

I can not see GP asking le to pick up anything that would help le in there quest for justice for Caylee.moo [/*]



I wonder when the doorbell rang if the Anthony's thought they were coming for Casey again.

[tybek]

Originally posted by TREE TREE

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This is the best time to put pressure on the whole bunch of them with Casey out

I would think if I had my guess it would be Cindy who needs the lawyer. I think she not only has lied to LE but most seriously FBI. [/*]

I gathered from reading the board that Casey didn't seem as cocky and confident upon her second release. Maybe */c LP the great famous bounty hunter wasn't there saying he believed her and to protect her. Or maybe she is feeling more pressure and knows evidence is coming back in.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by GrannyB




I wonder when the doorbell rang if the Anthony's thought they were coming for Casey again. [/*]

I bet!!:lol:

Poor girl. NOT

She was probably trying to catch up on her beauty sleep if she read any of the stuff people said about her looking much older than 22.

[JHP]

Originally posted by TREE TREE
I do wonder about them hiring a criminal attorney.........why just 1?? Maybe he is really just for one of them and they do not want to say which one. The Ramseys each hired attorneys which makes since. Why 1?? [/*]

Maybe there are more criminal attorney's in his practice. What has bothered me most is this seems to be the Attorney the Guiltiest of people go to to get them off. Maybe they shouldn't have been spending their money on bail for Casey.

JMO

[tybek]

Originally posted by nutterbutter

I can not see GP asking le to pick up anything that would help le in there quest for justice for Caylee.moo [/*]

ITA. IIRC the only thing they have offered up, aside from Cindy's 911 calls, are peices of info to help explain away or clear Casey.

[Motomom]

Originally posted by tybek


I gathered from reading the board that Casey didn't seem as cocky and confident upon her second release. Maybe */c LP the great famous bounty hunter wasn't there saying he believed her and to protect her. Or maybe she is feeling more pressure and knows evidence is coming back in. [/*]

She knows who and where they are searching.. I bet they are close.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by Motomom


She knows who and where they are searching.. I bet they are close. [/*]


ITA! Her fantasy world is about to come crashing down to reality.
I hope.

[tybek]

Originally posted by Motomom


She knows who and where they are searching.. I bet they are close. [/*]

God bless Tim Miller, TES and all the volunteers. It is so sad that Caylee's family isn't out there searching too. I think that says it all as relates to what Casey's family really knows. Is even Lee or any of her extended family known to be involved in any searches?

[Motomom]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



ITA! Her fantasy world is about to come crashing down to reality.
I hope. [/*]


I couldn't read the article posted upthread on the orlando sentinel so I don't know what it said. It is suspicious to me that GA and LA see to have been MIA for the most part. Then up CA and GA goes and lawyers up. A defense attorney someone said? I thought originally that they lawyered up for all the lawsuits I think they plan on making. Maybe it is GA who knows more than we think. We keep blaming it on Cindy (WE in general terms please), might not be Cindy doing the cover up at all. I don't think I believe that GA or CA could be involved but :shrug: Seems awfully strange to go collecting potentional evidence at 3 am.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by tybek


God bless Tim Miller, TES and all the volunteers. It is so sad that Caylee's family isn't out there searching too. I think that says it all as relates to what Casey's family really knows. Is even Lee or any of her extended family known to be involved in any searches? [/*]


Someone somewhere said that it isn't proper or something for immediate family to be out searching. I'm not sure what reasons they gave, maybe being able to do something with evidence if found?

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



ITA! Her fantasy world is about to come crashing down to reality.
I hope. [/*]

I'm not sure her fantasy world will ever completely come crashing to reality. I see her as the female Scott Peterson, bragging about being called "Scotty too Hotty" by the women working in the prison and speaking of all the women writing him and marriage proposals...

[nutterbutter]

Originally posted by tybek


ITA. IIRC the only thing they have offered up, aside from Cindy's 911 calls, are peices of info to help explain away or clear Casey. [/*]
exactly.mo

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by tybek


I'm not sure her fantasy world will ever completely come crashing to reality. I see her as the female Scott Peterson, bragging about being called "Scotty too Hotty" by the women working in the prison and speaking of all the women writing him and marriage proposals... [/*]


True. I'll just be happy when she realizes SHE IS NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT. Maybe that's a better way to say it :D

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Motomom



I couldn't read the article posted upthread on the orlando sentinel so I don't know what it said. It is suspicious to me that GA and LA see to have been MIA for the most part. Then up CA and GA goes and lawyers up. A defense attorney someone said? I thought originally that they lawyered up for all the lawsuits I think they plan on making. Maybe it is GA who knows more than we think. We keep blaming it on Cindy (WE in general terms please), might not be Cindy doing the cover up at all. I don't think I believe that GA or CA could be involved but :shrug: Seems awfully strange to go collecting potentional evidence at 3 am. [/*]


I'm looking at Cindy cause she's the last one verified to have been with Caylee. We don't even know where George was on Father's Day. Cindy is the one screaming the loudest. The only truth I can think of out of her mouth is when she told LE if they went to the nursing home she would help them and she's kept her word on that.

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



Someone somewhere said that it isn't proper or something for immediate family to be out searching. I'm not sure what reasons they gave, maybe being able to do something with evidence if found? [/*]

I've seen searches where the mother and sometimes the father is not searching because of the horror of a find. But usually at least someone from the immediate family is, and I can recall several searches with Tim Miller where immediate family was imbedded with his team. If it were a matter for evidence tainting, I'd think Miller would not have let them be involved.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by tybek


I've seen searches where the mother and sometimes the father is not searching because of the horror of a find. But usually at least someone from the immediate family is, and I can recall several searches with Tim Miller where immediate family was imbedded with his team. If it were a matter for evidence tainting, I'd think Miller have let them be involved. [/*]


Really? I've only followed a few cases but never followed one as close as I have this one. So I wouldn't have any idea. TY for the info.

[Keegan]

Originally posted by GrannyB



I'm looking at Cindy cause she's the last one verified to have been with Caylee. We don't even know where George was on Father's Day. Cindy is the one screaming the loudest. The only truth I can think of out of her mouth is when she told LE if they went to the nursing home she would help them and she's kept her word on that. [/*]

They might not have a car to go today Granny...Did you hear LE was at their door overnight gathering a little more evidence..from Grandpapa's car??? Isn't that something? We never expected that...

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by Keegan


They might not have a car to go today Granny...Did you hear LE was at their door overnight gathering a little more evidence..from Grandpapa's car??? Isn't that something? We never expected that... [/*]


Yep I was on here when it broke in the news. Sure wish the webcam has been on.

[Keegan]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Yep I was on here when it broke in the news. Sure wish the webcam has been on. [/*]

Me too. I would love to be a fly on the wall.

[GrannyB]

Too late to edit. I meant Cindy said if LE went to the nursing home she wouldn't help anymore and she hasn't.

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



Really? I've only followed a few cases but never followed one as close as I have this one. So I wouldn't have any idea. TY for the info. [/*]

I haven't been able to follow the case very closely the last week but I've gleaned that perhaps Miller himself isn't very happy with the GPs. Someone even has a quote on their signoff from Tim Miller saying "I DON'T NEED GRANNY!" Since I haven't been able to follow this week, I don't know exactly what the quote is about or what prompted it...

[Motomom]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



Someone somewhere said that it isn't proper or something for immediate family to be out searching. I'm not sure what reasons they gave, maybe being able to do something with evidence if found? [/*]


IIRC they don't normally like the family actually searching, incase they come across the body. I could be wrong, doesn't mean they can't be at the command center though, showing support and handing out stuff to the volunteers.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by tybek


I haven't been able to follow the case very closely the last week but I've gleaned that perhaps Miller himself isn't very happy with the GPs. Someone even has a quote on their signoff from Tim Miller saying "I DON'T NEED GRANNY!" Since I haven't been able to follow this week, I don't know exactly what the quote is about or what prompted it... [/*]


I believe that was over the dispute Tim and Cindy had. She did NOT want him searching for a deceased Caylee, only an alive Caylee. He was about to pull out until LE convinced him to stay and continue to search. So he stated he doesn't need Cindys help to find Caylee. IIRC

[Keegan]

Originally posted by GrannyB
Too late to edit. I meant Cindy said if LE went to the nursing home she wouldn't help anymore and she hasn't. [/*]

I knew what you meant...;)

[VC2]

i still don't think this means to much.

Way to specific a place to go, if they wanted to search the whole car looking for something, they could have gotten it impounded and take care and time.

wheel chucks make sense bc there is a possibility of transfer. Were they always in Georges car or had he taken them from casey's at one point? If that was the case, bet they are testing them to see if they can match substances found in the testing.

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



I believe that was over the dispute Tim and Cindy had. She did NOT want him searching for a deceased Caylee, only an alive Caylee. He was about to pull out until LE convinced him to stay and continue to search. So he stated he doesn't need Cindys help to find Caylee. IIRC [/*]

Thanks, I missed that. Do you know who requested TES's involvement? Usually it is the family who asks for their help in searching but I doubt that was the case here...

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by tybek


Thanks, I missed that. Do you know who requested TES's involvement? Usually it is the family who asks for their help in searching but I doubt that was the case here... [/*]


Cindy. lol
IIRC That is why she was so pissed about how he was searching.

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by tybek


God bless Tim Miller, TES and all the volunteers. It is so sad that Caylee's family isn't out there searching too. I think that says it all as relates to what Casey's family really knows. Is even Lee or any of her extended family known to be involved in any searches? [/*]

People seem to think the GPs shouldn't be involved in the search for fear of what they may find, but I do believe, like others have said, that the Anthonys could assist by giving out water or contributing money to Tim Miller. If the GPs can post bond for Casey, then they must be able to find the funds to help in the search for their granddaughter. Of course the GPs will say that Tim Miller is in this just for attention, he isn't looking for Caylee!hammer

Speaking of money, it appears that many people hope to profit from what has happened to little Caylee and that also angers me. The Anthonys have a PR firm and now want to be paid for interviews, the newsmagazine shows try to get the first interview with Casey so they would be willing to pay for that, and these defense attorneys are taking on this case - for free???? I don't think so, I am sure JB is doing it for the exposure it brings to him, just think unknown attorney is all over the national news and becomes famous! Criminals will be beating down his door. And the new attorney (ha, ha, his name escapes me at the moment) surely is not representing the Anthonys out of the goodness of his heart, which is why the GPs are now requiring monies be paid for interviews.

Sometimes I feel as though the Anthonys don't want Caylee to be found dead or alive, because if that never happens they can stay in the national headlines and continue to profit from little Caylee.

If this is just what is happening while an investigation is going on, can you imagine what will happen when and if Casey actually goes to trial.

Caylee is no longer the main focus to anyone in this family. I believe once the Anthonys realized what Casey had done, they decided it was more important to protect their daughter instead of making her take responsibility for her actions

Other people have lost their children through illness, war or an accident. Look at some of the pictures that NG spotlights on her show of the men and women that lost their lives fighting for this country, those are the parents and families I will feel sorry for!



Thank you Tim Miller, LE and the searchers who are the ones that are trying to find little Caylee and make sure she receives the justice she deserves :rose:

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by VC2
i still don't think this means to much.

Way to specific a place to go, if they wanted to search the whole car looking for something, they could have gotten it impounded and take care and time.

wheel chucks make sense bc there is a possibility of transfer. Were they always in Georges car or had he taken them from casey's at one point? If that was the case, bet they are testing them to see if they can match substances found in the testing. [/*]


LE has known about the wheel chocks for some time now. Maybe it has to do with the chlorform?

[mojito]

Originally posted by MicheleL

I bet George and Cindy freaked out ..

I bet Casey slept through the whole thing .. [/*]


Just waking up to read...wow! I bet Casey probably started getting dressed thinking they were coming back to haul her up to the big house. :lol:

[Keegan]

Originally posted by mojito



Just waking up to read...wow! I bet Casey probably started getting dressed thinking they were coming back to haul her up to the big house. :lol: [/*]

I am not a nasty person but I like the idea of her being on edge.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by Pebbles


People seem to think the GPs shouldn't be involved in the search for fear of what they may find, but I do believe, like others have said, that the Anthonys could assist by giving out water or contributing money to Tim Miller. If the GPs can post bond for Casey, then they must be able to find the funds to help in the search for their granddaughter. Of course the GPs will say that Tim Miller is in this just for attention, he isn't looking for Caylee!hammer

Speaking of money, it appears that many people hope to profit from what has happened to little Caylee and that also angers me. The Anthonys have a PR firm and now want to be paid for interviews, the newsmagazine shows try to get the first interview with Casey so they would be willing to pay for that, and these defense attorneys are taking on this case - for free???? I don't think so, I am sure JB is doing it for the exposure it brings to him, just think unknown attorney is all over the national news and becomes famous! Criminals will be beating down his door. And the new attorney (ha, ha, his name escapes me at the moment) surely is not representing the Anthonys out of the goodness of his heart, which is why the GPs are now requiring monies be paid for interviews.

Sometimes I feel as though the Anthonys don't want Caylee to be found dead or alive, because if that never happens they can stay in the national headlines and continue to profit from little Caylee.

If this is just what is happening while an investigation is going on, can you imagine what will happen when and if Casey actually goes to trial.

Caylee is no longer the main focus to anyone in this family. I believe once the Anthonys realized what Casey had done, they decided it was more important to protect their daughter instead of making her take responsibility for her actions

Other people have lost their children through illness, war or an accident. Look at some of the pictures that NG spotlights on her show of the men and women that lost their lives fighting for this country, those are the parents and families I will feel sorry for!



Thank you Tim Miller, LE and the searchers who are the ones that are trying to find little Caylee and make sure she receives the justice she deserves :rose: [/*]


I read in an article this AM that the Anthonys have not accepted any money and that is only a rumor. It says they've been offered money many times and have turned it down without hesitation. I believe that's in the Orlando Sentinel article IIRC.

[mojito]

Originally posted by Keegan


I am not a nasty person but I like the idea of her being on edge. [/*]

Me too! She'd better get used to it. If they don't convict her for this, I have a feeling this will be the way her life will be...always livin' on the edge.

[Keegan]

Originally posted by mojito


Me too! She'd better get used to it. If they don't convict her for this, I have a feeling this will be the way her life will be...always livin' on the edge. [/*]

and so many will cry rivers for her...

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



Cindy. lol
IIRC That is why she was so pissed about how he was searching. [/*]

Wow. That's a surprise to me. TES does search for LIVE people and has found many. But they are very experienced and aren't going to waste their time/resources looking for a live person if they conclude a body is the most likely outcome.

Thanks for filling me in on the search/TES info. Hurricane season needs to calm down so I can keep up with things here...

[ellegna]

Originally posted by GrannyB
Too late to edit. I meant Cindy said if LE went to the nursing home she wouldn't help anymore and she hasn't. [/*]

True but I believe Cindy already made her mind up to be uncooperative the moment Casey was arrested. Whether LE went to the nursing home or not wouldn't have mattered.

[VC2]

Originally posted by GrannyB



LE has known about the wheel chocks for some time now. Maybe it has to do with the chlorform? [/*]

thats what i mean, something that they now know was in casey's trunk so they are checking the chocks to see if they have any of it on them. I just cant remembber if they were there at any time.

If they were then i think its just covering another base. No reason to test the chocks until there was something to test them to. I can actually envision a detective last night going back through the tests, and the paperwork and searches and saying "did we ever get trace from the chocks?" and going for a specific warrant - or just asking- right away if they hadn't

[ilovemylife]

Oh , once it has happened, it will be so nice to sit down with my coffee and know Casey is in "general population" in a cozy little prison where I really feel she belongs.

:tongue:

[tybek]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



I read in an article this AM that the Anthonys have not accepted any money and that is only a rumor. It says they've been offered money many times and have turned it down without hesitation. I believe that's in the Orlando Sentinel article IIRC. [/*]

I think there was some discusson on the board earlier today that they are speaking on technicalities...that they haven't taken money themselves for interviews, but that their attorney is assessing some types of fees (liscencing, or something???) for items they provide. In any event, they sure didn't turn down LPs money.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by VC2


thats what i mean, something that they now know was in casey's trunk so they are checking the chocks to see if they have any of it on them. I just cant remembber if they were there at any time.

If they were then i think its just covering another base. No reason to test the chocks until there was something to test them to. I can actually envision a detective last night going back through the tests, and the paperwork and searches and saying "did we ever get trace from the chocks?" and going for a specific warrant - or just asking- right away if they hadn't [/*]


Could be. I was thinking since the news broke about the chloroform one of the neighbors remember George telling him about using it on fire ants or something like that and he knew George kept it in the trunk or his car.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Could be. I was thinking since the news broke about the chloroform one of the neighbors remember George telling him about using it on fire ants or something like that and he knew George kept it in the trunk or his car. [/*]


Wow, I missed that obviously. I never knew that was said/ happened.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



Wow, I missed that obviously. I never knew that was said/ happened. [/*]


I was speculating, I didn't mean it actually happened. I sure don't want to start a rumor. :)

[JHP]

At the beggining of this i remember wheel chock discussion, Does anyone remember what it was? Could they have been used to hold Caylee in place? or something like that.

For Caylee:rose:

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by GrannyB



I was speculating, I didn't mean it actually happened. I sure don't want to start a rumor. :) [/*]


LOL Ty for clearing that up. I totally misread.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by JHP
At the beggining of this i remember wheel chock discussion, Does anyone remember what it was? Could they have been used to hold Caylee in place? or something like that.

For Caylee:rose: [/*]


George said Casey came by the house and he told her he was going to rotate the tires on Cindy's car and wanted the chocks out of her trunk in case she wasn't there when he was ready to do the rotating. He claimed Casey didn't want him to go into the trunk.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning friends. First thought, I love how
LE rolls. Great stategy waking them up at 3:00 am. I don't think they went there for chucks though, cuz I don't believe that entire story George told about the chucks and gas cans.

I would love to see the probable cause document for requesting the search warrant. After preliminary testing is completed, they may go back and impound the entire car.

Did cynthia and george call LE to pick up evidence at 3: a.m.? :lol: These two have done nothing but impede this investigation, imo.


Once again, I think LE is on top of this case and has much more evidence then we could ever imagine. They just want to make sure they get everyone involved, before, during and after.

IMO.

[JHP]

Originally posted by GrannyB



George said Casey came by the house and he told her he was going to rotate the tires on Cindy's car and wanted the chocks out of her trunk in case she wasn't there when he was ready to do the rotating. He claimed Casey didn't want him to go into the trunk. [/*]

Thank-you, In retrospect it is kind of suspicious.

JMO

[spageddy]

or maybe they used chloroform on that pesky bamboo when the shovel didn't work. Casey also could have used the shovel to beat the fire ants to death. Who knows?:shrug:
I'm sure the Anthony's are cooking up all kinds of stories now.
That's maybe why they're so desperate to have casey home. so they can huddle.
Has anyone seen Lee?
Oh yeah, just got up so excuse my rambling: Good Morning . :seeya:
I'm praying for the faithful posters who are joining the search. Be Safe and check back in soon!

[snowflakes]

On the Today show just now, instead of calling Casey a POI, they called her a prime suspect. That's new.

[Regina.Lampert]

Lots of storage space in the back of george's HHR. BTW, wonder if he still has "that cooler?"


http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr/photogallery/

Click on interior photos and you can see the rear storage areas.

[ilovemylife]

http://www.local6.com/news/17406629/detail.html

Fights Erupt, Crowds Chant 'Baby Killer' Outside Anthony Home

[Keegan]

I did find it odd that during the bond hearing when George went to take the stand Casey began sobbing...Yet when the police interviewed her, she stated she hated her father. Hiding something?

[n/t]

Morning all,

Please extend a prayer to Tim and the volunteer searchers today. Some of our fellow posters will also be there to help.

Thoughts and prayers going out to them. For those of us that can't be there with you, we are with you in spirit.

Bring Caylee home
:rose:

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning all,

Please extend a prayer to Tim and the volunteer searchers today. Some of our fellow posters will also be there to help.

Thoughts and prayers going out to them. For those of us that can't be there with you, we are with you in spirit.

Bring Caylee home
:rose: [/*]

:rose:

[spageddy]

Originally posted by ilovemylife
http://www.local6.com/news/17406629/detail.html

Fights Erupt, Crowds Chant 'Baby Killer' Outside Anthony Home [/*]
Those angry mobs scare me. When Casey was re-arrested and taken from her home , there was a shot of the crowd, and in the crowd was a young child- maybe 5 or older- sitting on her father (or someones) shoulder, pumping her fist in the air & shouting as Casey was being led away. Does anyone else find this disturbing? I'm not sure how any of that will help get the truth or find Caylee.
I would like to say to them: People! Go home and take care of your own kids, or search for Caylee, or pray, or get a job and donate to the search, or SOMETHING other than this! It is certainly their right to speak their mind, but man... that mob scene is just plainn frightening to me. and non-productive, IMO.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning all,

Please extend a prayer to Tim and the volunteer searchers today. Some of our fellow posters will also be there to help.

Thoughts and prayers going out to them. For those of us that can't be there with you, we are with you in spirit.

Bring Caylee home
:rose: [/*]

kinda silly but I want one of our posters to find her, but I don't want one of our posters to go through the hell of finding her.

Prayers for the searchers, may they stay safe and brave.
:rose:

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by morson


I think that they are sending a message to George and Cindy. Wouldn't it be interesting if they arrested one of them for AAF, preferably Cindy. I actually think that George might come clean if Cindy was sitting in jail. But then, who knows with these liars. [/*]

It would not surprise me at all if one of them is arrested for SOMETHING.

I never bought the story about GA looking for the wheel thingies.

I believe he wondered if those reported stolen gas cans were in the car, and when he opened the trunk, he smell something just awful, and a realization that Caylee wasn't there that day combined with the smell, his gut told him that something horrible happened imo.

Normal people don't pick up a car from an impound, see it smells worse than anything they ever smelled, and go home, and start searching their back yard. They knew, they knew, they knew imo.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


It would not surprise me at all if one of them is arrested for SOMETHING.

I never bought the story about GA looking for the wheel thingies.

I believe he wondered if those reported stolen gas cans were in the car, and when he opened the trunk, he smell something just awful, and a realization that Caylee wasn't there that day combined with the smell, his gut told him that something horrible happened imo.

Normal people don't pick up a car from an impound, see it smells worse than anything they ever smelled, and go home, and start searching their back yard. They knew, they knew, they knew imo. [/*]

I never bought it either. His face told a very different story than his words did. It was like a check-list story...did I cover all the details people will worry about? Did I convince them?



Chorus: and there were the gas cans....

[spageddy]

Originally posted by Boxer


kinda silly but I want one of our posters to find her, but I don't want one of our posters to go through the hell of finding her.

Prayers for the searchers, may they stay safe and brave.
:rose: [/*]

Not so silly, Boxer. I was thinking along those same lines. I think our fellow posters are sensitive to what this is all about.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


It would not surprise me at all if one of them is arrested for SOMETHING.

I never bought the story about GA looking for the wheel thingies.

I believe he wondered if those reported stolen gas cans were in the car, and when he opened the trunk, he smell something just awful, and a realization that Caylee wasn't there that day combined with the smell, his gut told him that something horrible happened imo.

Normal people don't pick up a car from an impound, see it smells worse than anything they ever smelled, and go home, and start searching their back yard. They knew, they knew, they knew imo. [/*]

G'morning all.

The search they did bothers me. If they did think something bad happened, why would they think that the answers would be in their own BACK YARD?:shrug: It's just, weird.

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by Boxer


I never bought it either. His face told a very different story than his words did. It was like a check-list story...did I cover all the details people will worry about? Did I convince them?



Chorus: and there were the gas cans.... [/*]

Exactly Boxer, it was too rehearsed, and I still remember when he was telling the story, Cindy grabbed his hand, and it was like, now be careful George, not don't say too much.

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


G'morning all.

The search they did bothers me. If they did think something bad happened, why would they think that the answers would be in their own BACK YARD?:shrug: It's just, weird. [/*]

msgatorslayer,

IMO they had been smelling something in the back yard for awhile. They could NOT figure out what it was, and when they then picked up the car, and smelled it again, they put 2 and 2 together. They realized it was the same smell, and put in the mix, that Caylee hasn't been seen by CA or GA for a month. I believe they KNEW.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


G'morning all.

The search they did bothers me. If they did think something bad happened, why would they think that the answers would be in their own BACK YARD?:shrug: It's just, weird. [/*]




Since we really don't know how about this theory. They knew something was in the backyard and when they got the car they couldn't figure out why the car smelled like what was in the back yard. They went and searched the back yard and it wasn't there anymore. Geez this is making me crazy I guess.

[Boxer]

I've had to work the last two nights so am horribly behind. Am I getting it right? LE came in the night to search George's vehicle? Did Casey get any new charges?

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by GrannyB





Since we really don't know how about this theory. They knew something was in the backyard and when they got the car they couldn't figure out why the car smelled like what was in the back yard. They went and searched the back yard and it wasn't there anymore. Geez this is making me crazy I guess. [/*]

Granny, I think you and I posted the same thing :)

[Pebbles]

Originally posted by spageddy

Those angry mobs scare me. When Casey was re-arrested and taken from her home , there was a shot of the crowd, and in the crowd was a young child- maybe 5 or older- sitting on her father (or someones) shoulder, pumping her fist in the air & shouting as Casey was being led away. Does anyone else find this disturbing? I'm not sure how any of that will help get the truth or find Caylee.
I would like to say to them: People! Go home and take care of your own kids, or search for Caylee, or pray, or get a job and donate to the search, or SOMETHING other than this! It is certainly their right to speak their mind, but man... that mob scene is just plainn frightening to me. and non-productive, IMO. [/*]



:beer: Totally agree

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


Granny, I think you and I posted the same thing :) [/*]


If they don't hurry up and find Caylee and arrest someone we're all going to be ready for the funny farm. That song "They're Coming To Take Me Away" keeps popping into my head.

[Katt2]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning friends. First thought, I love how
LE rolls. Great stategy waking them up at 3:00 am. I don't think they went there for chucks though, cuz I don't believe that entire story George told about the chucks and gas cans.

I would love to see the probable cause document for requesting the search warrant. After preliminary testing is completed, they may go back and impound the entire car.

Did cynthia and george call LE to pick up evidence at 3: a.m.? :lol: These two have done nothing but impede this investigation, imo.


Once again, I think LE is on top of this case and has much more evidence then we could ever imagine. They just want to make sure they get everyone involved, before, during and after.

IMO. [/*]

In a case like this, where there is only CE, isn't it the prosecutor that makes the call to arrest and charge a person of a murder? They have to think they have enough evidence to present to a GJ.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by starling


from your link~
September 6, 2008 2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony's father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence


~Maybe it is his 'tire tool' George had gone looking for in Casey's trunk when he discovered the cans. Possibly the tire tool has trace evidence frm Casey's trunk [/*]

:eek:

Parents hire attorney - George's car searched in the middle of the night. Wonder if they had wind that things were shifting their way.

Did Baez and wife spend the night? lmao. I bet Casey thought they were coming for her, again!!!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Boxer
I've had to work the last two nights so am horribly behind. Am I getting it right? LE came in the night to search George's vehicle? Did Casey get any new charges? [/*]

Yes, here is the article. Note this from the article also:


Meanwhile, a Department of Children and Families spokeswoman confirmed Friday that the state agency has an open child-abuse investigation involving Anthony.

Two DCF officials met with Anthony at the Orange County Jail on Thursday. "That meeting is a normal part of any investigation. DCF officials are obligated to meet face-to-face with a parent who is being investigated for alleged child abuse," agency spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story

I wonder if LE has statements from anthony's friends showing her to be something other then a loving mother?

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by GrannyB





Since we really don't know how about this theory. They knew something was in the backyard and when they got the car they couldn't figure out why the car smelled like what was in the back yard. They went and searched the back yard and it wasn't there anymore. Geez this is making me crazy I guess. [/*]

This is gross. But maybe George was out back watering, planting, whatever. And noticed alot of bug activity along with a smell. Couldn't figure it out and put it out of his mind. Until he picked the car up and smelled the same thing. Then went into overdrive, looking around the backyard for 'something'

[spageddy]

Originally posted by stuck again


Last night on NG a woman from TES said it was unusual for the family not to be out there,that most famies are beating the bushes with them. I heard the other info from a poster about families not being allowed to search so I found this very interesting.At the very least GA and CA should be at the command center helping. But they have another agenda and we will all find out what that is eventually. [/*]

I think that Cindy is operating her own Command Center right there on Hopespring Drive. I always thought -right from those first 911 calls- that Cindy hatched a plot, and was directing all the players' lines. I suspect that Casey's 1st visit to jail was NOT part of Cindy's plan. She, Cindy, had to make some revisions, and got a little mixed up. :confused:
She needs Casy home to re-write the scenes- but it's too far out of control now. I don't think Cindy likes "out of control" much. I think she's had her command center operating long before Caylee went missing.
I also think LE-whether intentionally or not- is showing her just how little control she has left by showing up at her door in the early am. MOO

[commonguymd]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


I have been saying for several weeks now every day.

Things changed immediately following the last 911 call and proceeded from there.

Cadaver dog ALL the vehicles!

I believe something was found in the backyard before the police showed up to search and after the 911 call.


I believe she borrowed the shovel to bury the child in the backyard.

1. The car stunk
2. She buried the child
3. got rid of the car hoping it would be stolen
4. They found the car and knew something was wrong.
5. Cindy found Casey
6. No Caylee
7. Cindy called 911
8. They tore through the backyard
9. They found something and disposed of it.
10. They cleaned the car.
11. Cops cadaver dogged but I don't think they did the other family members cars.
12. They went into protect mode.
13. They are protecting George as well as Casey IMO
14. The first phone call at the jail was critical when Casey said "you don't know my involvement"
15. Lee was the last to know when CAsey said she was "close"
16. Casey does NOT know where Caylee is.

[bchand]

Originally posted by Boxer
I've had to work the last two nights so am horribly behind. Am I getting it right? LE came in the night to search George's vehicle? Did Casey get any new charges? [/*]

Morning Boxer - they took something out of George's car.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


No new charges as of this time.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Katt2


In a case like this, where there is only CE, isn't it the prosecutor that makes the call to arrest and charge a person of a murder? They have to think they have enough evidence to present to a GJ. [/*]

Excellent point Kittkatt!!


:seeya:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Yes, here is the article. Note this from the article also:


Meanwhile, a Department of Children and Families spokeswoman confirmed Friday that the state agency has an open child-abuse investigation involving Anthony.

Two DCF officials met with Anthony at the Orange County Jail on Thursday. "That meeting is a normal part of any investigation. DCF officials are obligated to meet face-to-face with a parent who is being investigated for alleged child abuse," agency spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story

I wonder if LE has statements from anthony's friends showing her to be something other then a loving mother? [/*]

Thanks!

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


msgatorslayer,

IMO they had been smelling something in the back yard for awhile. They could NOT figure out what it was, and when they then picked up the car, and smelled it again, they put 2 and 2 together. They realized it was the same smell, and put in the mix, that Caylee hasn't been seen by CA or GA for a month. I believe they KNEW. [/*]

Yes, thank you. I just posted the same thing. This scenerio makes sense. Cause I can't imagine thikning, Mr.Gator has killed someone, and that he buried someone in our own backyard. I'd never think he would do that, right here, in our own yard.

[Armchairdet]

Good morning :seeya:

I missed all the excitement overnight. But after reading this mornings thread I have changed my idea on what happened again. If I am anywhere close to correct, they will be searching Cindy's car soon.

[day2day]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


:eek:

Parents hire attorney - George's car searched in the middle of the night. Wonder if they had wind that things were shifting their way.

Did Baez and wife spend the night? lmao. I bet Casey thought they were coming for her, again!!! [/*]

Mornin msgator!

I tell you ..this has got to be the craziest case i personally have ever followed.

Search warrants in the middle of the night? Attorney and his wife over at the Anthony's for a "viewing party"? I am still wondering if princess baked brownies for them? ..

My thoughts and prayers are with Tim Miller and all of the searchers..I hope there are 1,000 or more today. Special prayers for OUR searchers....and safety for all of them!

[kOOkie1]

Morning everyone!.. my thoughts are with all the searchers today!!!! :seeya:


I also love the fact LE came in @ 3 am!! lol

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning friends. First thought, I love how
LE rolls. Great stategy waking them up at 3:00 am. I don't think they went there for chucks though, cuz I don't believe that entire story George told about the chucks and gas cans.

I would love to see the probable cause document for requesting the search warrant. After preliminary testing is completed, they may go back and impound the entire car.

Did cynthia and george call LE to pick up evidence at 3: a.m.? :lol: These two have done nothing but impede this investigation, imo.


Once again, I think LE is on top of this case and has much more evidence then we could ever imagine. They just want to make sure they get everyone involved, before, during and after.

IMO. [/*]

IIRC, a condition of bail is unannounced searches/seizures. So no, I don't think the Anthonys voluntarily called the police and said "Oh yeah, by the way....". I don't think they've voluntarily called them and told them to pick up evidence at any time. IMO, police found out about the "mysteriously returned gas cans" the same time the rest of us found out - watching their interview with Greta.

All JMO

I don't think what they picked up was wheel chocks either. Bag didn't look like it held much. I was thinking along the lines of a gun (which they're also not supposed to have as a condition of bail). But what do I know?

:shrug:

Didn't watch 20/20 or Greta.

[n/t]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


msgatorslayer,

IMO they had been smelling something in the back yard for awhile. They could NOT figure out what it was, and when they then picked up the car, and smelled it again, they put 2 and 2 together. They realized it was the same smell, and put in the mix, that Caylee hasn't been seen by CA or GA for a month. I believe they KNEW. [/*]

I always felt they knew the truth.

[witchywoman]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning all,

Please extend a prayer to Tim and the volunteer searchers today. Some of our fellow posters will also be there to help.

Thoughts and prayers going out to them. For those of us that can't be there with you, we are with you in spirit.

Bring Caylee home
:rose: [/*]

Ditto that,mo

[Boxer]

Originally posted by bchand


Morning Boxer - they took something out of George's car.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


No new charges as of this time. [/*]

maybe they are looking at items to see if Caylee was ever back there...body fluids etc.

[anyonesguess]

I am wondering if that "Seizure" that Casey had in April where Jesse Grund took her to the hospital had anything to do with huffing chloroform.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Katt2


In a case like this, where there is only CE, isn't it the prosecutor that makes the call to arrest and charge a person of a murder? They have to think they have enough evidence to present to a GJ. [/*]

The murderer of Coral Rose Fullwood was arrested weeks ago. Charged with kidnap, rape, and murder.

Just days ago, a GJ indicted for murder 1.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


IIRC, a condition of bail is unannounced searches/seizures. So no, I don't think the Anthonys voluntarily called the police and said "Oh yeah, by the way....". I don't think they've voluntarily called them and told them to pick up evidence at any time. IMO, police found out about the "mysteriously returned gas cans" the same time the rest of us found out - watching their interview with Greta.

All JMO

I don't think what they picked up was wheel chocks either. Bag didn't look like it held much. I was thinking along the lines of a gun (which they're also not supposed to have as a condition of bail). But what do I know?

:shrug:

Didn't watch 20/20 or Greta. [/*]

makes much more sense than the gas can story:shrug:

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by spageddy


I think that Cindy is operating her own Command Center right there on Hopespring Drive. I always thought -right from those first 911 calls- that Cindy hatched a plot, and was directing all the players' lines. I suspect that Casey's 1st visit to jail was NOT part of Cindy's plan. She, Cindy, had to make some revisions, and got a little mixed up. :confused:
She needs Casy home to re-write the scenes- but it's too far out of control now. I don't think Cindy likes "out of control" much. I think she's had her command center operating long before Caylee went missing.
I also think LE-whether intentionally or not- is showing her just how little control she has left by showing up at her door in the early am. MOO [/*]

Ew, I don't know about this. This seems a stretch, considering Cindy seems to react much like Casey, as it comes to her. I can't see anyone in this family plotting anything, except Casey, when it comes to finding ways to knock her daughter out so she can go clubbing. FWIW. :shrug:

Last nights 20/20 brought me back to reality on Cindy, George and Lee.

I've seen people who are family members of someone who is mentally ill who are so mentally beaten down that they literally do nothing to help that person. Eventually it takes such a toll that they eventually end up not knowing which end is up. I understand the boards frustration a little more now, but I still don't think the Family of Casey Anthony had any involvement other than their deep denial and belief in their daughter who is about to ruin them.

JMO

[Boxer]

Originally posted by anyonesguess
I am wondering if that "Seizure" that Casey had in April where Jesse Grund took her to the hospital had anything to do with huffing chloroform. [/*]

I am wondering what the heck is wrong with people that I have to be posting about chloroform to begin with...

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by commonguymd
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


I have been saying for several weeks now every day.

Things changed immediately following the last 911 call and proceeded from there.

Cadaver dog ALL the vehicles!

I believe something was found in the backyard before the police showed up to search and after the 911 call.


I believe she borrowed the shovel to bury the child in the backyard.

1. The car stunk
2. She buried the child
3. got rid of the car hoping it would be stolen
4. They found the car and knew something was wrong.
5. Cindy found Casey
6. No Caylee
7. Cindy called 911
8. They tore through the backyard
9. They found something and disposed of it.
10. They cleaned the car.
11. Cops cadaver dogged but I don't think they did the other family members cars.
12. They went into protect mode.
13. They are protecting George as well as Casey IMO
14. The first phone call at the jail was critical when Casey said "you don't know my involvement"
15. Lee was the last to know when CAsey said she was "close"
16. Casey does NOT know where Caylee is. [/*]

I think many of their actions could be classified as consciousness of "casey's" guilt.

The two things that disturb me are the searching of the four sheds and yard before LE arrives and cynthia's washing of those grey slacks.

IMO, they know casey did something that resulted in Caylee's disappearance and have gone into cover-up mode.

[day2day]

Originally posted by stuck again


I bet JB had the wife come because of all the speculation about his relationship with Casey.Or maybe he was sending Casey a message to back off. [/*]

You could be right...! I was thinking they wanted to watch the 20/20 show..as a "family". **sighs** and jmo

[ccat]

Does anyone know if George and Cindy go to work while Casey is home?

Also, about the backyard and the possibility of a burial there - I remember when Greta interviewed Cindy at her home, Cindy pointed to a spot in the backyard and said George had dug up a plant there because it got too big? I thought it odd to mention that - unless the digging was for another purpose and she wanted to provide a cover.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by anyonesguess
I am wondering if that "Seizure" that Casey had in April where Jesse Grund took her to the hospital had anything to do with huffing chloroform. [/*]

Could be.

Or pretending to have a seizure as an attention getting scheme. Would like to see the ER records for that. Usually if someone has a seizure, extensive tests are ordered (IMO) so it wouldn't have been an in and out of the ER situation.

Those computer searches are going to be a doozy I do believe.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by anyonesguess
I am wondering if that "Seizure" that Casey had in April where Jesse Grund took her to the hospital had anything to do with huffing chloroform. [/*]

Also, although rare, seizure is a side effect of Xanax abuse, withdrawal, = Zanny.

MOO

[JHP]

Originally posted by commonguymd
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


I have been saying for several weeks now every day.

Things changed immediately following the last 911 call and proceeded from there.

Cadaver dog ALL the vehicles!

I believe something was found in the backyard before the police showed up to search and after the 911 call.


I believe she borrowed the shovel to bury the child in the backyard.

1. The car stunk
2. She buried the child
3. got rid of the car hoping it would be stolen
4. They found the car and knew something was wrong.
5. Cindy found Casey
6. No Caylee
7. Cindy called 911
8. They tore through the backyard
9. They found something and disposed of it.
10. They cleaned the car.
11. Cops cadaver dogged but I don't think they did the other family members cars.
12. They went into protect mode.
13. They are protecting George as well as Casey IMO
14. The first phone call at the jail was critical when Casey said "you don't know my involvement"
15. Lee was the last to know when CAsey said she was "close"
16. Casey does NOT know where Caylee is. [/*]

#16 Because she gave her to someone she trusted. LE needs to check all of the Anthonys pings. I believe when George stopped by Tim Millers the other day he was just checking the location the searchers were at.

JMO

[Katt2]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


The murderer of Coral Rose Fullwood was arrested weeks ago. Charged with kidnap, rape, and murder.

Just days ago, a GJ indicted for murder 1. [/*]

I am missing your point, I guess.

[ellegna]

Has any mentioned been made whether results came back for the soil samples taken from the Anthony backyard?
If not, could it be some of the evidence LE mentioned they do not want to release to the public at this time?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by ccat
Does anyone know if George and Cindy go to work while Casey is home?

Also, about the backyard and the possibility of a burial there - I remember when Greta interviewed Cindy at her home, Cindy pointed to a spot in the backyard and said George had dug up a plant there because it got too big? I thought it odd to mention that - unless the digging was for another purpose and she wanted to provide a cover. [/*]

That whole Greta interview was one big exercise in covering/excusing evidence or theories. Gas cans, plants dug up, George cutting himself on the pavers, the last day George claims he saw Caylee, swimming pool ladder, gate, shed lock (which wasn't locked when Cindy opened it for Greta), and on and on.

JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by stuck again


I always thought that was drug related. We don't hear anything about a seizure disorder.Can the police get medical records? I know they are all over this girls life.I'd love to know what they know. [/*]

My 17 y.o Niece had a seizure earlier this year. One of the first things Dr's did was a tox test. Because of her age, and not having a history, this is what they thought.

She had another a week later. It wasn't drugs. She has epilepsy.

[ccat]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I think many of their actions could be classified as consciousness of "casey's" guilt.

The two things that disturb me are the searching of the four sheds and yard before LE arrives and cynthia's washing of those grey slacks.

IMO, they know casey did something that resulted in Caylee's disappearance and have gone into cover-up mode. [/*]

But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911?

[n/t]

Originally posted by commonguymd
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story


I have been saying for several weeks now every day.

Things changed immediately following the last 911 call and proceeded from there.

Cadaver dog ALL the vehicles!

I believe something was found in the backyard before the police showed up to search and after the 911 call.


I believe she borrowed the shovel to bury the child in the backyard.

1. The car stunk
2. She buried the child
3. got rid of the car hoping it would be stolen
4. They found the car and knew something was wrong.
5. Cindy found Casey
6. No Caylee
7. Cindy called 911
8. They tore through the backyard
9. They found something and disposed of it.
10. They cleaned the car.
11. Cops cadaver dogged but I don't think they did the other family members cars.
12. They went into protect mode.
13. They are protecting George as well as Casey IMO
14. The first phone call at the jail was critical when Casey said "you don't know my involvement"
15. Lee was the last to know when CAsey said she was "close"
16. Casey does NOT know where Caylee is. [/*]


I agree with all your points except the last one. I think Casey and the Anthonys know where Caylee is and what happened to her.

You know it's very sad that they can't even grieve the loss of their own granddaughter because they're too busy covering up for their psycho daughter. I think that's what's keeping them from a total breakdown. They're living in some sort of fantasy world, imo. The us against them world. It's sad and frightening.

And no, God forbid, I would never ever want to be in their shoes.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Katt2


I am missing your point, I guess. [/*]

Only on my 2nd cup of coffee. I'm just saying it took a few weeks after an arrest for a GJ to indict.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

And why not run the car through the car wash and really clean the trunk?

ITA!

[JHP]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

Because they thought LE would just think it was a missing child and not question them.

Didn't Cindy and Casey set up a Caylee is missing My-space at some point during the 911 call day?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Only on my 2nd cup of coffee. I'm just saying it took a few weeks after an arrest for a GJ to indict. [/*]

I think in this case, you'll see Grand Jury first, then indictment, then arrest. (If she's not already back in jail then).

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by JHP


#16 Because she gave her to someone she trusted. LE needs to check all of the Anthonys pings. I believe when George stopped by Tim Millers the other day he was just checking the location the searchers were at.

JMO [/*]

Precisely how I see it. Some of what she says is the truth and if you think about it, she trusts her family more than anyone.

The stories are outrageous, but if you read between the lines.....

Check ALL the pings! Cadaver Dog all the cars!

[Keegan]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

Maybe Cindy didn't know until later. Remember it was George that called Lee to be with his mother. I do think Cindy did not know and was trying to make Casey talk.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Could be.

Or pretending to have a seizure as an attention getting scheme. Would like to see the ER records for that. Usually if someone has a seizure, extensive tests are ordered (IMO) so it wouldn't have been an in and out of the ER situation.

Those computer searches are going to be a doozy I do believe. [/*]

Excellent point, that ER triage chart will hold a wealth of information.

[n/t]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

They had no choice. Someone was going to question where Caylee was. It was already 31 days since anyone had seen Caylee.

Cindy's MySpace post keeps haunting me. I believe she posted it on July 3rd?? She may have already known.

IMO.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

I don't think they knew til after the 911 calls. I think they found something in the backyard and that is when the coverup begain.

[ladeebug565]

Originally posted by Dragon


Most likely the wheel chocks he removed from the trunk of Casey's car when the gas cans were returned.

If they were trying to get evidence of Caylee in his car, they would impound the car, not just remove something from the trunk.

I have a feeling they're going to test the wheel chocks to see if they have any type of residue on them. [/*]

Why would someone have wheel chocks? Is it because they live in a hilly area? My hubby uses them on airplanes and on our boat trailer, but I've not seen them used on a car. :shrug:

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by stuck again


Something just struck me.The Anthoney's gave out a lot of info at first, then went into cover up mode. MAYBE the attorney told them Casey could be up on capital murder charges.They might not mind her going to jail,but don't want to help LE put her on death row. [/*]

I agree with what you said, except cover up mode. I think, in their heads, they're in support mode.

But I agree with your point. Baez got involved somewhere along the line, and managed to get some attention away from his client. jmo.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]


I don't think Cindy knew at that point. She's not that great an actress. I think the realization was later when the NO INFO from Casey started.

[Katt2]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Only on my 2nd cup of coffee. I'm just saying it took a few weeks after an arrest for a GJ to indict. [/*]

My whole point was that it is up to the prosecutor to sign a warrant for an arrest to begin with before it goes near a GJ. Are we on the same page?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by KatieKates


And why not run the car through the car wash and really clean the trunk?

ITA! [/*]

In all the pictures they show of the car with the evidence guys, the car, IMO, looks pristine. Not like a car that's been towed and sitting in a tow yard for a couple of weeks.

I'm a firm believer of the car and trunk being cleaned before police were ever notified. I think everything was removed, things were washed, and things were discarded - and I ain't talking about a pizza box.

;)

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by n/t



I agree with all your points except the last one. I think Casey and the Anthonys know where Caylee is and what happened to her.

You know it's very sad that they can't even grieve the loss of their own granddaughter because they're too busy covering up for their psycho daughter. I think that's what's keeping them from a total breakdown. They're living in some sort of fantasy world, imo. The us against them world. It's sad and frightening.

And no, God forbid, I would never ever want to be in their shoes. [/*]


If George for instance found Caylee in the backyard and disposed of her - perhaps she does NOT know where she is but she admits she thinks she is "close". Cindy took care of cleaning a knife and pants that were of interest to LE.

They might just not tell Casey where he disposed of her, but she knows they found her and took care of things.

imo

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by JHP


Because they thought LE would just think it was a missing child and not question them.

Didn't Cindy and Casey set up a Caylee is missing My-space at some point during the 911 call day? [/*]


That seems odd because my first thought would be call 911, after that I don't know what I would do, media perhaps. But I don't think I would say, hey lets put this on a social networking site.

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by ladeebug565


Why would someone have wheel chocks? Is it because they live in a hilly area? My hubby uses them on airplanes and on our boat trailer, but I've not seen them used on a car. :shrug: [/*]

My Husband would use them as a precaution. Hilly or not, you don't want to be under a car and have someone nudge the car making it roll on ya.

[JHP]

Originally posted by commonguymd


Precisely how I see it. Some of what she says is the truth and if you think about it, she trusts her family more than anyone.

The stories are outrageous, but if you read between the lines.....

Check ALL the pings! Cadaver Dog all the cars! [/*]

Doesn't the saying go "when she lies she tells the truth?" I bet the same could be said for all of them.

JMO

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by ladeebug565


Why would someone have wheel chocks? Is it because they live in a hilly area? My hubby uses them on airplanes and on our boat trailer, but I've not seen them used on a car. :shrug: [/*]

Our driveway is sloped. If we changed a tire my husband would put something behind a tire. But we have not had chocks in years. IMO

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Katt2


My whole point was that it is up to the prosecutor to sign a warrant for an arrest to begin with before it goes near a GJ. Are we on the same page? [/*]

;) Now we are. ITA

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


In all the pictures they show of the car with the evidence guys, the car, IMO, looks pristine. Not like a car that's been towed and sitting in a tow yard for a couple of weeks.

I'm a firm believer of the car and trunk being cleaned before police were ever notified. I think everything was removed, things were washed, and things were discarded - and I ain't talking about a pizza box.

;) [/*]

Could very well be, but it still stunk of decomp, according to the officer who looked at it.

I don't remember, did George throw out the pizza with the maggots at the tow yard? If he started throwing stuff out when he went to get the car, they'd have most the garbage in evidence by now. I would think. :shrug:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


My Husband would use them as a precaution. Hilly or not, you don't want to be under a car and have someone nudge the car making it roll on ya. [/*]

mine too. cept we don't have manufactured ones. He has some blocks of wood cut from railroad ties that he uses...

[commonguymd]

George was so QUIET in the beginning.

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


My Husband would use them as a precaution. Hilly or not, you don't want to be under a car and have someone nudge the car making it roll on ya. [/*]

However I do wonder why it would be in Casey's trunk. Unless he just threw it in the trunk of the last car he used it on. :shrug:

[Eli]

Originally posted by commonguymd



If George for instance found Caylee in the backyard and disposed of her - perhaps she does NOT know where she is but she admits she thinks she is "close". Cindy took care of cleaning a knife and pants that were of interest to LE.

They might just not tell Casey where he disposed of her, but she knows they found her and took care of things.

imo [/*]

hi
about this knife, what do you suppose this was used for? ropes, opening something?..

[JHP]

Originally posted by Armchairdet



That seems odd because my first thought would be call 911, after that I don't know what I would do, media perhaps. But I don't think I would say, hey lets put this on a social networking site. [/*]

ITA! But isn't that what was first said, they spent the morning setting it up? I could be wrong because there is too much to keep up with.

[Mint_Julep]

Originally posted by stuck again


I bet JB had the wife come because of all the speculation about his relationship with Casey.Or maybe he was sending Casey a message to back off. [/*]

I felt like there was a specific reason for taking his wife but my thought was SHE might have been the one wanting to go. IMO, if she had heard the speculations, she might want to protect her own "terriroty".

[5boxersmom]

I am beginning to think GA helped Casey and they told Cindy after the third 911 call. Then they kicked into gear. jmo

Caylee:rose:

For the searchers:rose:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by commonguymd
George was so QUIET in the beginning. [/*]

disturbingly quiet until his break out with the gas can story...which followed the "we never reported anything on the 24th of anything" story

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by Boxer


mine too. cept we don't have manufactured ones. He has some blocks of wood cut from railroad ties that he uses... [/*]

Yup, mine too. He'd use a chunk of wood. He used to be quite a motor head and totally rebuild engines and such.

I've never understood why George rotates his own tired. They are supposed to be balanced as well and the cost isn't high.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Armchairdet


However I do wonder why it would be in Casey's trunk. Unless he just threw it in the trunk of the last car he used it on. :shrug: [/*]

I got the impression that Casey wasn't the only one using this car from time to time, so that point didn't phase me. What did was his insistence on looking in the trunk himself for the wheel blocks. He probably was really looking for the gas cans. MOO

[ilovemylife]

Can you all clear something up for me please. IIRC I heard this on NG sometime this week.

That the Anthonys can know what happened to Caylee and not get into trouble for not telling LE. However the only way they can get into trouble is by tampering with evidence or throwing the investigation off somehow.

Is that true, Casey can confess to them and they don't have to tell? If so, do those laws vary by state?

TIA

[mitzi]

I spoke with JbellaJ around 8 am this morning. She, along with Chrdpst and Rebel Rouzer, were a few minutes from the command center.

I think Jbella is going to check back in a little later during a break. I will let you folks know if I hear from her.

Let's hope today is the day little Caylee gets to come home. It's time.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by starling


from your link~
September 6, 2008 2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony's father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence


~Maybe it is his 'tire tool' George had gone looking for in Casey's trunk when he discovered the cans. Possibly the tire tool has trace evidence frm Casey's trunk [/*]I find it really strange that LE would just show up at that hour. I wonder if George or Cindy called them. Baez was there earlier in the evening.

Do the detectives on this case work throughout the night? Friday night? :confused:

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by JHP


ITA! But isn't that what was first said, they spent the morning setting it up? I could be wrong because there is too much to keep up with. [/*]

I think they did set it up then. But like you, I have trouble keeping up with so much.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom
I am beginning to think GA helped Casey and they told Cindy after the third 911 call. Then they kicked into gear. jmo

Caylee:rose:

For the searchers:rose: [/*]

I remember from somewhere (???) Cindy saying she called and called George but he didn't pick up his cell and then that he called her back and she said get home quick, Caylee is missing...

anyone have a link for that? or remember what his response was like? was it during the 911 call?

[n/t]

Originally posted by commonguymd
George was so QUIET in the beginning. [/*]

True.

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by KatieKates


I got the impression that Casey wasn't the only one using this car from time to time, so that point didn't phase me. What did was his insistence on looking in the trunk himself for the wheel blocks. He probably was really looking for the gas cans. MOO [/*]



I don't see how we can believe anything any of them say. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the story George told never happened at all.

[JHP]

Originally posted by Boxer


disturbingly quiet until his break out with the gas can story...which followed the "we never reported anything on the 24th of anything" story [/*]

Which then the Casey's been missing for 30 day's story goes out the window.

[Leeann1313]

Originally posted by Eli


hi
about this knife, what do you suppose this was used for? ropes, opening something?.. [/*]

Cutting the pizza as someone posted??? :shrug:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Yup, mine too. He'd use a chunk of wood. He used to be quite a motor head and totally rebuild engines and such.

I've never understood why George rotates his own tired. They are supposed to be balanced as well and the cost isn't high. [/*]

yup! we get ours done under the tire warranty for free...

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by mitzi
I spoke with JbellaJ around 8 am this morning. She, along with Chrdpst and Rebel Rouzer, were a few minutes from the command center.

I think Jbella is going to check back in a little later during a break. I will let you folks know if I hear from her.

Let's hope today is the day little Caylee gets to come home. It's time. [/*]Thank you. :seeya:

[ccat]

Originally posted by commonguymd



If George for instance found Caylee in the backyard and disposed of her - perhaps she does NOT know where she is but she admits she thinks she is "close". Cindy took care of cleaning a knife and pants that were of interest to LE.

They might just not tell Casey where he disposed of her, but she knows they found her and took care of things.

imo [/*]
Good point. I hadn't thought of that.
It makes sense because Cindy made such a point of mentioning how George had dug up a plant that was getting too big (during the Greta interview at the house). "Me thinks thou doest protest too much."

Also questions for you all out there :
Is Casey at hone alone all day?
George at work?
Cindy at work?

[tootie]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I find it really strange that LE would just show up at that hour. I wonder if George or Cindy called them. Baez was there earlier in the evening.

Do the detectives on this case work throughout the night? Friday night? :confused: [/*]

I don't find it strange. I like the idea of keeping them on their toes at all hours. I think they are working on this case 24/7. Kudos to LE for doing so!

[n/t]

Originally posted by mitzi
I spoke with JbellaJ around 8 am this morning. She, along with Chrdpst and Rebel Rouzer, were a few minutes from the command center.

I think Jbella is going to check back in a little later during a break. I will let you folks know if I hear from her.

Let's hope today is the day little Caylee gets to come home. It's time. [/*]

Thanks for keeping us posted. Tell her we're thinking of them. :)

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by ilovemylife
Can you all clear something up for me please. IIRC I heard this on NG sometime this week.

That the Anthonys can know what happened to Caylee and not get into trouble for not telling LE. However the only way they can get into trouble is by tampering with evidence or throwing the investigation off somehow.

Is that true, Casey can confess to them and they don't have to tell? If so, do those laws vary by state?

TIA [/*]

This is interesting, I know years back the wives of crime bosses were safe because they weren't required to testify against their husbands, which is why people like the Gotti extended family were never brought up on charges. They just lived in these mansions and played dumb as to how daddy was making his money, and LE wanted the big fish anyway, so they never bothered with family.

Someone with a Law Degree can answer better, but I do believe they have some type of right not to incriminate their family members unless evidence shows they deliberately and knowingly altered the investigation.

jmo

[n/t]

Originally posted by tootie


I don't find it strange. I like the idea of keeping them on their toes at all hours. I think they are working on this case 24/7. Kudos to LE for doing so! [/*]

Yup. A reminder to the Anthonys that the truth and justice for Caylee doesn't stop.:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Boxer


I remember from somewhere (???) Cindy saying she called and called George but he didn't pick up his cell and then that he called her back and she said get home quick, Caylee is missing...

anyone have a link for that? or remember what his response was like? was it during the 911 call? [/*]No, she was informing him in the background on her 911 call.

[day2day]

Originally posted by mitzi
I spoke with JbellaJ around 8 am this morning. She, along with Chrdpst and Rebel Rouzer, were a few minutes from the command center.

I think Jbella is going to check back in a little later during a break. I will let you folks know if I hear from her.

Let's hope today is the day little Caylee gets to come home. It's time. [/*]

Thanks for the update mitzi ..and please keep us posted. My thoughts and prayers are with all of them today! And i agree..it is time that Caylee gets to come home..

:rose:

[Eli]

Just suppose for a moment...if you or I had this happen to us and we knew our daughter was a nut case or sociopath as Cindy described and we wanted to find our granddaughter dead or alive, what would you or i do. I would want her as close as possible to me. After years and years, i would have had some skill in "getting things out of her"..getting her to "slip"..i really wonder. I just dont think Cindy would be like she is if she knew that her grand-daughter was dead. Irregardless of some of her behavior, she is a nurse and usually someone becomes a nurse because they care about people. Cindy s a smart cookie and she knows her daughter...i think she is trying to get Casey into her confidence and find out what really happened to Caylee.

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by mitzi
I spoke with JbellaJ around 8 am this morning. She, along with Chrdpst and Rebel Rouzer, were a few minutes from the command center.

I think Jbella is going to check back in a little later during a break. I will let you folks know if I hear from her.

Let's hope today is the day little Caylee gets to come home. It's time. [/*]

Thanks for the update.

:beer:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by ccat


But what puzzles me is - if they knew Caylee was dead - why call 911? [/*]

Because for that nano second, they put concern for Caylee ahead of concern for casey. I don't think they ever dreamed casey would be arrested so quickly. After casey was taken away by the cops, they returned to their cover up mode with neck snapping speed. IMO.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by Eli


hi
about this knife, what do you suppose this was used for? ropes, opening something?.. [/*]

Who knows. We may never know. We may be surprised if the body is found. Nevertheless, I found it fascinating that Cindy would wash anything from the car which they knew might be a crime scene. They must have had a reason and I think the reason for the cleaning brigade was because they found something in the backyard.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by commonguymd


Precisely how I see it. Some of what she says is the truth and if you think about it, she trusts her family more than anyone.

The stories are outrageous, but if you read between the lines.....

Check ALL the pings! Cadaver Dog all the cars! [/*]I agree. I have felt from the beginning that they should have checked all the cars.

I wonder if they couldn't get a warrant at that time, needing "just cause." imo

[ellegna]

Originally posted by ilovemylife
Can you all clear something up for me please. IIRC I heard this on NG sometime this week.

That the Anthonys can know what happened to Caylee and not get into trouble for not telling LE. However the only way they can get into trouble is by tampering with evidence or throwing the investigation off somehow.

Is that true, Casey can confess to them and they don't have to tell? If so, do those laws vary by state?

TIA [/*]

I believe NG referred it as the Good Samaritan clause.
The lawyer said the Anthonys did not have to divulge BUT if the Anthonys deliberately interfered with the investigation, they could be charged

[n/t]

Remember how non chalant Casey was on the 911 call? She even questioned why they wanted to talk to her.

Did she think her parents had everything under control and it took her by surprise when they wanted to talk to her? Is that why she was so pissed when the jail call was made? You don't know what my involvement is comment. She was shocked she would be arrested because she thought her parents had everything planned out.

Then the call with Lee where he tells her to not say anything and to write things down instead.

hmmmmmm.....I think we're starting to see the pieces fall into place.

[ccat]

Several posts back (can't find it) someone said George was looking to see where TES was looking. That's very reminiscent of Scott Peterson's actions.

I think if it were the GPs disposing of a child, they would find a respectful place, not a dumpster.

After all I've read here, I do believe the GPs did some extensive covering.

[AMS]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning all,

Please extend a prayer to Tim and the volunteer searchers today. Some of our fellow posters will also be there to help.

Thoughts and prayers going out to them. For those of us that can't be there with you, we are with you in spirit.

Bring Caylee home
:rose: [/*]


I wasn't around much yesterday. Does anyone know if a poster is still collecting donations for our posters who traveled to Orlando?

[Boxer]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
No, she was informing him in the background on her 911 call. [/*]

got it...listening for the 5th or 6th time. Seems like Cindy is the only hysterical person in the house.....:shrug:

IMO

[Keegan]

If it is true George was involved and the truth was beginning to fall into place for Cindy, you can hear the panic in her voice during that phone call. It sounds to me like she was nearly begging her daughter to talk. Both a beg and a bully. I bet it was all beginning to sink in. If this comes to play, I may take some pity on Cindy. Her entire life fell apart that night. My question is why Lee didn't put a stop to it all. Did he know?

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by ellegna


I believe NG referred it as the Good Samaritan clause.
The lawyer said the Anthonys did not have to divulge BUT if the Anthonys deliberately interfered with the investigation, they could be charged [/*]

That's somewhat disturbing. As I said , I've never followed any case THIS CLOSE. I'm learning a lot.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by Eli
Just suppose for a moment...if you or I had this happen to us and we knew our daughter was a nut case or sociopath as Cindy described and we wanted to find our granddaughter dead or alive, what would you or i do. I would want her as close as possible to me. After years and years, i would have had some skill in "getting things out of her"..getting her to "slip"..i really wonder. I just dont think Cindy would be like she is if she knew that her grand-daughter was dead. Irregardless of some of her behavior, she is a nurse and usually someone becomes a nurse because they care about people. Cindy s a smart cookie and she knows her daughter...i think she is trying to get Casey into her confidence and find out what really happened to Caylee.

jmo [/*]


With Casey telling friends she was getting the house, were Cindy and George next? Was that the Chloroform issue? Did she have plans?

[Boxer]

Originally posted by AMS



I wasn't around much yesterday. Does anyone know if a poster is still collecting donations for our posters who traveled to Orlando? [/*]

you can PM toadmomma. She was the one in charge of the collecting. They are probably at the search area by now, but yesterday she had her laptop along.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by ladeebug565


Why would someone have wheel chocks? Is it because they live in a hilly area? My hubby uses them on airplanes and on our boat trailer, but I've not seen them used on a car. :shrug: [/*]He said he was going to rotate the tires. I don't see how those wheel chocks would be of assistance for that. You can't rotate tires easily without a hoist. :confused: imo

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by ccat
Several posts back (can't find it) someone said George was looking to see where TES was looking. That's very reminiscent of Scott Peterson's actions.

I think if it were the GPs disposing of a child, they would find a respectful place, not a dumpster.

After all I've read here, I do believe the GPs did some extensive covering. [/*]

You might be disappointed by the actual outcome. I can guarantee you that it won't be as dramatic as some of the scenarios laid out on this board.

;)

[rainydays]

Originally posted by Keegan
If it is true George was involved and the truth was beginning to fall into place for Cindy, you can hear the panic in her voice during that phone call. It sounds to me like she was nearly begging her daughter to talk. Both a beg and a bully. I bet it was all beginning to sink in. If this comes to play, I may take some pity on Cindy. Her entire life fell apart that night. My question is why Lee didn't put a stop to it all. Did he know? [/*]

i doubt that lee knows anything. imo

i also have always beleived that GA was involved and now i think that even more. i am really feeling bad for cindy because i don't think she was involved at all but after the fact, when she knew the truth, she is just trying to keep some of her family intact.

if i am right and GA and casey are responsible, cindy will be losing both of them and she likely doesn't want that to happen.

i am praying for our fellow posters who have gone to orlando to search and i wish i could be one of them.

i hope sweet caylee comes home soon and is laid to rest.:rose:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by tybek


I think there was some discussing on the board earlier today that they are speaking on technicalities...that they haven't taken money themselves for interviews, but that their attorney is assessing some types of fees (licensing, or something???) for items they provide. In any event, they sure didn't turn down LPs money. [/*]

I think you are correct. They are back dooring this money and we have heard of these networks getting caught in lies before saying they don't pay for interviews. Technically "they" don't but a third party does imo keeping their names out of it.

Remember how Debra Opri did? All the money that Birkhead was making off of articles and photo spreads with DLS went to her office and was held by her law firm? I think the very same thing is happening here. We know that People magazine pays for photos because they got caught when they paid Amber Frey's friend $5K for one photo....the problem was they did not digital out her friend's picture on the wall that could be seen behind Amber and Scott Peterson........they finally wound up paying $15k instead because of that one mistake.

They can continue to say they don't pay til the cows come home but I will never believe it.

imoo

[Barbara fl.]

Originally posted by KatieKates


This is interesting, I know years back the wives of crime bosses were safe because they weren't required to testify against their husbands, which is why people like the Gotti extended family were never brought up on charges. They just lived in these mansions and played dumb as to how daddy was making his money, and LE wanted the big fish anyway, so they never bothered with family.

Someone with a Law Degree can answer better, but I do believe they have some type of right not to incriminate their family members unless evidence shows they deliberately and knowingly altered the investigation.

jmo [/*]


UNFORTUNITLY...In the State of Florida, no one is obligated to tell if they have knowledge of a crime. Just like in the Jessica Lundsford case, the family of Couey DID have knowledge of their brother and little Jessica and lied to the police when they came to the door..NOTHING was done to them...

Your correct,,, nothing can be done to them unless they obstruct justice or alter evidence.

[rainydays]

Originally posted by KatieKates


You might be disappointed by the actual outcome. I can guarantee you that it won't be as dramatic as some of the scenarios laid out on this board.

;) [/*]

how do you guarantee that??

[Destini]

If they threw the pizza from the car in the trash, there's no telling what else they threw away from that car. Don't you imagine if there were drugs or something bloody or anything that might look obviously incriminating to their daughter in that car that they got rid of it?? And probably not even in the same dumpster.

The only reason George retrieved the pizza is because the police were questioning the smell. There's no telling what was in that car we'll never hear about.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Boxer


got it...listening for the 5th or 6th time. Seems like Cindy is the only hysterical person in the house.....:shrug:

IMO [/*]Yes. What's up with that?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Ew, I don't know about this. This seems a stretch, considering Cindy seems to react much like Casey, as it comes to her. I can't see anyone in this family plotting anything, except Casey, when it comes to finding ways to knock her daughter out so she can go clubbing. FWIW. :shrug:

Last nights 20/20 brought me back to reality on Cindy, George and Lee.

I've seen people who are family members of someone who is mentally ill who are so mentally beaten down that they literally do nothing to help that person. Eventually it takes such a toll that they eventually end up not knowing which end is up. I understand the boards frustration a little more now, but I still don't think the Family of Casey Anthony had any involvement other than their deep denial and belief in their daughter who is about to ruin them.

JMO [/*]

Trying to get caught up with the morning thread....I agree with this post.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by KatieKates


You might be disappointed by the actual outcome. I can guarantee you that it won't be as dramatic as some of the scenarios laid out on this board.

;) [/*]

How can you guarantee? I am already surprised at every turn that shocks me. Chloroform in the car for instance.

[AMS]

Originally posted by n/t


Yup. A reminder to the Anthonys that the truth and justice for Caylee doesn't stop.:rose: [/*]

WOnder if LE called first. If not, Caylee must have freaked when the doorbell rang. Oh too bad....;)

[bchand]

Originally posted by AMS



I wasn't around much yesterday. Does anyone know if a poster is still collecting donations for our posters who traveled to Orlando? [/*]

Not sure but I have the info. If you want it, just pm me.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Yes. What's up with that? [/*]

my husband, sweet soul that he is who never ever cusses, would be blowing a gasket!

[Amy]

Originally posted by Eli
Just suppose for a moment...if you or I had this happen to us and we knew our daughter was a nut case or sociopath as Cindy described and we wanted to find our granddaughter dead or alive, what would you or i do. I would want her as close as possible to me. After years and years, i would have had some skill in "getting things out of her"..getting her to "slip"..i really wonder. I just dont think Cindy would be like she is if she knew that her grand-daughter was dead. Irregardless of some of her behavior, she is a nurse and usually someone becomes a nurse because they care about people. Cindy s a smart cookie and she knows her daughter...i think she is trying to get Casey into her confidence and find out what really happened to Caylee.

jmo [/*]

Somewhere in the first couple of days, Cindy was complaining about Casey being arrested so soon, as she (Cindy) only needed about an hour with Casey to get to the bottom of this. Altho, it had been pointed out that Cindy had already had about 5 hours w/Casey, and hadn't gotten anywhere.

Then, IIRC, when Casey was let out this first time, part of the deal was that the Anthonys were not to talk to Casey about what happened to Caylee.

I remember on the lawn the next day or so, when Cindy was asked about talking to Casey, she said she never asked whether Casey anything. But, by that time, the "deal" was in for them to not do so. IRRC

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by rainydays


how do you guarantee that?? [/*]

Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain...

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by n/t
Remember how non chalant Casey was on the 911 call? She even questioned why they wanted to talk to her.

Did she think her parents had everything under control and it took her by surprise when they wanted to talk to her? Is that why she was so pissed when the jail call was made? You don't know what my involvement is comment. She was shocked she would be arrested because she thought her parents had everything planned out.

Then the call with Lee where he tells her to not say anything and to write things down instead.

hmmmmmm.....I think we're starting to see the pieces fall into place. [/*]Don't forget Casey's other statement: "They're going to pin this on me!" Pin WHAT? imo

[AMS]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Because for that nano second, they put concern for Caylee ahead of concern for casey. I don't think they ever dreamed casey would be arrested so quickly. After casey was taken away by the cops, they returned to their cover up mode with neck snapping speed. IMO. [/*]

ITA and they probably didn't know the depth of the lies and the types of stories/pictures (like the hot body contest) that would come out bringing this into the national spotlight.

[CinTN]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Also, although rare, seizure is a side effect of Xanax abuse, withdrawal, = Zanny.

MOO [/*]

GOOD MORNING:seeya:

ahh yes ,, give the child a xanax,,put her out for a while

= Zanny the Nanny

sorry im a tad behind on the thread but Im catching up.. :chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]I sure agree with that. :cool:

[n/t]

Originally posted by Eli
Just suppose for a moment...if you or I had this happen to us and we knew our daughter was a nut case or sociopath as Cindy described and we wanted to find our granddaughter dead or alive, what would you or i do. I would want her as close as possible to me. After years and years, i would have had some skill in "getting things out of her"..getting her to "slip"..i really wonder. I just dont think Cindy would be like she is if she knew that her grand-daughter was dead. Irregardless of some of her behavior, she is a nurse and usually someone becomes a nurse because they care about people. Cindy s a smart cookie and she knows her daughter...i think she is trying to get Casey into her confidence and find out what really happened to Caylee.

jmo [/*]

Knowing both had professional careers. George being in law enforcement and Cindy being a nurse, I have a difficult time accepting that they are oblivious to what really happened.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that things just don't add up. There is no Zenaida, the decomp smell is not rotting pizza, Casey had NO job, etc etc etc.

[rainydays]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

i agree with you that many of the other scenarios do not make sense or are very far-fetched and that casey is responsible. i also think GA had a part in it too.

i simply was questioning your use of the word "guarantee". it supposes you know something the rest of us don't......

[mitzi]

Originally posted by AMS



I wasn't around much yesterday. Does anyone know if a poster is still collecting donations for our posters who traveled to Orlando? [/*]

AMS - send a pm to toadmomma. She is on the search now, but will probably be able to get back to you this evening. Or post on the thread about folks going to search.

:seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Boxer


my husband, sweet soul that he is who never ever cusses, would be blowing a gasket! [/*]Of course. I think George knew something had happened. He should have called LE from the tow lot. The smell, the circumstances, etc. imo

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by rainydays


i agree with you that many of the other scenarios do not make sense or are very far-fetched and that casey is responsible. i also think GA had a part in it too.

i simply was questioning your use of the word "guarantee". it supposes you know something the rest of us don't...... [/*]

Oh dear I wish. :) Sadly I'm basing this off of what I've seen in the course of a lifetime. A lot of hype and build and once it's over every is left looking around like, :shrug:

Know what I mean?

[Boxer]

Originally posted by n/t


Knowing both had professional careers. George being in law enforcement and Cindy being a nurse, I have a difficult time accepting that they are oblivious to what really happened.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that things just don't add up. There is no Zenaida, the decomp smell is not rotting pizza, Casey had NO job, etc etc etc. [/*]

rocket scientists will ignore something just because they think it is a small problem even when other rocket scientists try to tell them it's a big problem, the the rocket goes up killin 7 astronauts....:shrug:

I bet there are statements in her record from high school saying needs councelling....

[Keegan]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

It begins to explain the very bizarre behavior of the parents.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Don't forget Casey's other statement: "They're going to pin this on me!" Pin WHAT? imo [/*]

Exactly. Thanks for that reminder.

[kOOkie1]

Originally posted by Boxer


got it...listening for the 5th or 6th time. Seems like Cindy is the only hysterical person in the house.....:shrug:

IMO [/*]


..Soo what Im wondering is...was the first 911 call a sorta scare tactic thing by Cindy for Casey? reporting the stolen car..etc. ..cause at some point in-between she does seem to get hysterical. IMO.. since that time Cindy has talked and talked (sorta as Casey is described by friends as doing in a lie) to the point that she herself has made herself look suspicious. If any of that makes sense..ha

[rainydays]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Oh dear I wish. :) Sadly I'm basing this off of what I've seen in the course of a lifetime. A lot of hype and build and once it's over every is left looking around like, :shrug:

Know what I mean? [/*]

yes i do know exactly what you mean kate.

[Barbara fl.]

I do not nor ever did believe that the grand parents are involved in this at all...I believe that what ever the police were doing with George's car was probably just a routene thing that was left out. I actually feel more bad for George then for Cindy, he seems to be taking Caylees loss a lot worse then the rest of the family. He probably adored that little girl and, inside, is blaming Casey completely.

George always spoke freely to the cameras and didn't try to cover up Casey's actions. George just refuses to believe that Caylee is dead, (this is totally understandable), no one would want to believe the worst, you want to hold on to the last bit of hope..

As for Cindy, I believe that she will cover for her daughter because she knows she already lost Caylee and doesn't want to lose her daughter. NO parent wants to admit that their child would be capable of such a thing...

As for Casey, I hope that the State of Florida is going to do something about this without a body, because I do not believe a body will ever be found...Casey had a month to dispose of the body and I do believe that she was capable of planning the disposal real good, that is why she displays that smirk on her face, she is quite sure of herself.


I hope that justice prevails and Casey gets what she deserves like Susan Smith....THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT AS I STATED BEFORE...

[Boxer]

Originally posted by kOOkie1



..Soo what Im wondering is...was the first 911 call a sorta scare tactic thing by Cindy for Casey? reporting the stolen car..etc. ..cause at some point in-between she does seem to get hysterical. IMO.. since that time Cindy has talked and talked (sorta as Casey is described by friends as doing in a lie) to the point that she herself has made herself look suspicious. If any of that makes sense..ha [/*]

I think the first 2 calls were intended to pull Casey back in line...

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

But I still find everything Casey has done while her daughter was missing very shocking. It isn't normal, and not quite like any other missing child case I have ever seen.

I find the chloroform shocking, all the Fusion partying , lying about working,, stealing money from her own grandparents, etc. The list is just too long.

I am NOT looking for a shock effect, but everything Casey has done up to this point just keeps being brought out, and I find it shocking. Her facial expressions have a blank stare without any affect imo. I just cannot fathom acting like she does.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by stuck again


Last night on NG a woman from TES said it was unusual for the family not to be out there,that most famies are beating the bushes with them. I heard the other info from a poster about families not being allowed to search so I found this very interesting.At the very least GA and CA should be at the command center helping. But they have another agenda and we will all find out what that is eventually. [/*]I was out searching and tracking down information for my Little One. Of course, after the first hours there was no consideration that I was a Person of Interest. This is a very small town area too, so there may be sig. difference between how Our Local LE works and that in another area.
Besides, I think LE personell knew me too well to try to stop me from being out. I am not the easily disuaded type.
It was important to me that I do all I could to locate her and give her the place of peace I felt she deserved, and that I be on hand when she was found to aid in preserving the care and dignity I thought she was due, as it was the only thing I could still do for her. We already had statements from the perpetrator that we were no longer going to find a live child...so I was in a much different place in my grieff and acceptance than the Anthony's or other families might be.
I do understand why some families would not want to go, and why LE might not want them to go. ESpecially if the indidvidual was a POI, , in poor health, or didn't seem able to handle it.
All, JMO.
BTW, I do appreciate the kind words yesterday from so many kind people. I didn't respond to help keep the conversation on track. God has helped me come to terms with my grief and guilt in the years since that time. I have been praying to God daily that He intervene in the hearts and souls of this family.

[ellegna]

Originally posted by n/t


Knowing both had professional careers. George being in law enforcement and Cindy being a nurse, I have a difficult time accepting that they are oblivious to what really happened.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that things just don't add up. There is no Zenaida, the decomp smell is not rotting pizza, Casey had NO job, etc etc etc. [/*]

Ditto

[AMS]

Originally posted by mitzi


AMS - send a pm to toadmomma. She is on the search now, but will probably be able to get back to you this evening. Or post on the thread about folks going to search.

:seeya: [/*]

Thanks mitzi.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by Barbara fl.
I do not nor ever did believe that the grand parents are involved in this at all...I believe that what ever the police were doing with George's car was probably just a routene thing that was left out. I actually feel more bad for George then for Cindy, he seems to be taking Caylees loss a lot worse then the rest of the family. He probably adored that little girl and, inside, is blaming Casey completely.

George always spoke freely to the cameras and didn't try to cover up Casey's actions. George just refuses to believe that Caylee is dead, (this is totally understandable), no one would want to believe the worst, you want to hold on to the last bit of hope..

As for Cindy, I believe that she will cover for her daughter because she knows she already lost Caylee and doesn't want to lose her daughter. NO parent wants to admit that their child would be capable of such a thing...

As for Casey, I hope that the State of Florida is going to do something about this without a body, because I do not believe a body will ever be found...Casey had a month to dispose of the body and I do believe that she was capable of planning the disposal real good, that is why she displays that smirk on her face, she is quite sure of herself.


I hope that justice prevails and Casey gets what she deserves like Susan Smith....THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT AS I STATED BEFORE... [/*]



I totally believe what happened to Caylee was no accident, I don't sway from that belief for a second.

However, I keep swaying back and forth on whether or not the grandparents know what happened and if they are more involved in this.

[day2day]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

Sorry I disagree. There is a reason why George and Cindy hired that upscale defense attorney! JMO

[st777jo]

The pin this on me, by Casey, I thinks she means instead of pinning it zanny the nanny. I don't think G or C had anything to do with the disappearance of Caylee, but I absolutely believe they have been covering up for Casey. What I can't get passed is, why they are going along with all this knowing Caylee does not have a decent burial place. JMO

[aubrey04]

I wasn't here last night after NG, so I apologize if this has been hashed and rehashed to death, but what do you guys make of Padilla's statements that Lee and Cindy know that Caylee is dead, etc? Let me qualify this post and add that I am NOT a Padilla fan and I don't believe about 90% of what comes out of his mouth -- but I do think there is some truth to these statements.

Of course, I have been thinking that it was GEORGE and Cindy who knew the truth -- not Lee.

Here is it word-for-word on the NG/Sep 5th transcript:

GRACE: Leonard, you actually talked to them on numerous occasions. Do you think the grandparents really believe Casey Anthony?

PADILLA: No, no. They know the truth. Casey`s already divulged it to Lee. Lee has informed Cindy.As far as George, that I wouldn`t know. He`s the guy that`s really, you know, sometimes kept out of the loop and I feel real sorry for him.

GRACE: What do you mean she`s divulged the truth?

PADILLA: I believe that after the samples came out from the Tennessee and the FBI a week ago, more than a week ago, 10 days ago, that she probably told Lee, who told Cindy, because their whole attitude changed dramatically the very next morning. Thursday morning, it was kind of an offensive attack on she`s alive, she`s alive. Somebody put a body in the car and all that kind of stuff started coming out real strong.

GRACE: But if they really believe that it was another body in the car, not little Caylee, then that seems that they`re buying Casey Anthony`s story.

PADILLA: No, no, they`re not buying her story. They know what happened. They`re trying to make the best of it. They lost a granddaughter. They don`t want to lose a daughter.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/05/ng.01.html

[Barbara fl.]

Originally posted by kOOkie1



..Soo what Im wondering is...was the first 911 call a sorta scare tactic thing by Cindy for Casey? reporting the stolen car..etc. ..cause at some point in-between she does seem to get hysterical. IMO.. since that time Cindy has talked and talked (sorta as Casey is described by friends as doing in a lie) to the point that she herself has made herself look suspicious. If any of that makes sense..ha [/*]


Yes, it makes a lot of sense....Ciny doesn't want to lose her daughter and she KNOWS she already lost her granddaughter...No one can be in that much denial..I would not want to be in any of their shoes by any means. BUT, I believe if I realized that my child deliberately harmed their own child I would not be able to stand by them...If I thought it was an accident, I would stand by them...In this case, I think it is obvious that it was no accident...

[AMS]

Originally posted by day2day


Sorry I disagree. There is a reason why George and Cindy hired that upscale defense attorney! JMO [/*]

The hiring of the attorney is what did it for me. They know what happended.

[day2day]

Originally posted by AMS


The hiring of the attorney is what did it for me. They know what happended. [/*]

ITA...The jailhouse call from Casey really tells alot ..i think!

[OneUp]

Originally posted by stuck again


I bet JB had the wife come because of all the speculation about his relationship with Casey.Or maybe he was sending Casey a message to back off. [/*]ITA that one or the other is likely. Maybe Baez thought his presence would deter people from knocking on the door? ...or maybe they were being kind and giving George some company for his birthday?
I'd rather think it was something nice...yeah, even when it reagards the behavior of Baez.
JMO.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Barbara fl.
I do not nor ever did believe that the grand parents are involved in this at all...I believe that what ever the police were doing with George's car was probably just a routene thing that was left out. I actually feel more bad for George then for Cindy, he seems to be taking Caylees loss a lot worse then the rest of the family. He probably adored that little girl and, inside, is blaming Casey completely.

George always spoke freely to the cameras and didn't try to cover up Casey's actions. George just refuses to believe that Caylee is dead, (this is totally understandable), no one would want to believe the worst, you want to hold on to the last bit of hope..

As for Cindy, I believe that she will cover for her daughter because she knows she already lost Caylee and doesn't want to lose her daughter. NO parent wants to admit that their child would be capable of such a thing...

As for Casey, I hope that the State of Florida is going to do something about this without a body, because I do not believe a body will ever be found...Casey had a month to dispose of the body and I do believe that she was capable of planning the disposal real good, that is why she displays that smirk on her face, she is quite sure of herself.


I hope that justice prevails and Casey gets what she deserves like Susan Smith....THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT AS I STATED BEFORE... [/*]


There's no question that the grandparents adored Caylee and I'm sure this is a parent's worse nightmare. I can't even begin to understand what they must be going through.

With that said, it has become obvious that there is some disconnect at this time with reality. Some may say it's denial, grief and I appreciate their opinions. However, it's become a lot more than that, imo. Saving their daughter has become their mission and may very well get them in serious legal trouble themselves. I believe that's why they got a defense attorney.

There's a lot more going on. IMO

[Katt2]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

I agree with you 100%. But I still ponder with the thought of it being accidental. Makes no difference if it was, she is still guilty tho.

[Boxer]

Originally posted by day2day


ITA...The jailhouse call from Casey really tells alot ..i think! [/*]

for me it was throwing out those toys sent by people who's hearts were breaking for them...who does that carp!

[msgatorslayer]

Originally posted by st777jo
The pin this on me, by Casey, I thinks she means instead of pinning it zanny the nanny. I don't think G or C had anything to do with the disappearance of Caylee, but I absolutely believe they have been covering up for Casey. What I can't get passed is, why they are going along with all this knowing Caylee does not have a decent burial place. JMO [/*]

Yeah, I don't think the grands are responsible for harming Caylee. And Casey saying 'their gonna pin this on me' - well, what else can she say in her own defense? She knew that LE knew her story was bogus.

Cindy, IMO, is possesive of Caylee and thinks of her as her own. Thats why I'm amazed that she chooses to protect Casey and not find out the truth about what happened to Caylee.

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


But I still find everything Casey has done while her daughter was missing very shocking. It isn't normal, and not quite like any other missing child case I have ever seen.

I find the chloroform shocking, all the Fusion partying , lying about working,, stealing money from her own grandparents, etc. The list is just too long.

I am NOT looking for a shock effect, but everything Casey has done up to this point just keeps being brought out, and I find it shocking. Her facial expressions have a blank stare without any affect imo. I just cannot fathom acting like she does. [/*]

ITA! I've always been interested in the investigations into criminal cases, but this one just put it's meat hooks into me. I'm so bewildered by Casey's actions/reactions or lack thereof that I too want the questions answered now. We're dealing with a whole other animal with this case. A mother who is so detached that instead of helping find her daughter, she's playing games. It's fascinating, if not sickening.
barf

[AMS]

WOnder if Nancy Grace is aware that Lennie told Greta a story completely opposite of the one he told Nancy. I hope they both decide that they don't need to waste their air-time with Lennie any more. IMO it's time for Lennie to leave the case. I don't think he is useful at this point.

He told Nancy that he had been on the phone with Lee 24/7 talking about bonding Casey out if she would tell him where Casey is. Lennie told Greta that he hasn't spoken with Lee since he left Orlando.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Could be.

Or pretending to have a seizure as an attention getting scheme. Would like to see the ER records for that. Usually if someone has a seizure, extensive tests are ordered (IMO) so it wouldn't have been an in and out of the ER situation.

Those computer searches are going to be a doozy I do believe. [/*]I have heard of people "faking" seizures and the like to get into the ER so they might steal drugs and whatnot...I never saw any drugs handy when I was in the ER, but maybe I just don't know where to look?...I'd favor the drug reaction theory on Caseys seizure. It is fairly common I think in her age group with "partiers".
JMO.

[AlohaRainbow]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think in this case, you'll see Grand Jury first, then indictment, then arrest. (If she's not already back in jail then). [/*]
maybe the new subpoenas that were issued were for a grand jury and not the nov trial

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by OneUp
I was out searching and tracking down information for my Little One. Of course, after the first hours there was no consideration that I was a Person of Interest. This is a very small town area too, so there may be sig. difference between how Our Local LE works and that in another area.
Besides, I think LE personell knew me too well to try to stop me from being out. I am not the easily disuaded type.
It was important to me that I do all I could to locate her and give her the place of peace I felt she deserved, and that I be on hand when she was found to aid in preserving the care and dignity I thought she was due, as it was the only thing I could still do for her. We already had statements from the perpetrator that we were no longer going to find a live child...so I was in a much different place in my grieff and acceptance than the Anthony's or other families might be.
I do understand why some families would not want to go, and why LE might not want them to go. ESpecially if the indidvidual was a POI, , in poor health, or didn't seem able to handle it.
All, JMO.
BTW, I do appreciate the kind words yesterday from so many kind people. I didn't respond to help keep the conversation on track. God has helped me come to terms with my grief and guilt in the years since that time. I have been praying to God daily that He intervene in the hearts and souls of this family. [/*]

I am sorry for your loss:rose:

You were out searching even when you knew what the end result would be. See I don't get that with the Anthony's. Speaks of guilt to me. jmo


Caylee:rose:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by AMS
WOnder if Nancy Grace is aware that Lennie told Greta a story completely opposite of the one he told Nancy. I hope they both decide that they don't need to waste their air-time with Lennie any more. IMO it's time for Lennie to leave the case. I don't think he is useful at this point.

He told Nancy that he had been on the phone with Lee 24/7 talking about bonding Casey out if she would tell him where Casey is. Lennie told Greta that he hasn't spoken with Lee since he left Orlando. [/*]

holy toledo!

Leonard Padilla lost me as soon as I googled him:mad:

[n/t]

Originally posted by st777jo
The pin this on me, by Casey, I thinks she means instead of pinning it zanny the nanny. I don't think G or C had anything to do with the disappearance of Caylee, but I absolutely believe they have been covering up for Casey. What I can't get passed is, why they are going along with all this knowing Caylee does not have a decent burial place. JMO [/*]

Maybe just maybe, they know where she's is burried and have accepted that.

:shrug: