Caylee Anthony A.M thread 09/06/08

[Chevalier]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=339352

Saturday thread #2 here.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


The bond agreement with the two bond companies that put up the $500,000?

:shrug: [/*]I find it difficult to believe that a person out on bail would be allowed into a residence where there are guns, in the car or not. jmo

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~


crymeariver2006 stated it was a gun, but there's no basis for that as of now, no. [/*]

Pebbles was kind enough to post the article twice now that gives the basis for the gun information.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by bluwaters
This is a graphics heavy PDF brochure of all FL license tags.

Yellow tags are for government vehicles, listed on pp. 7-8.

I do not see DCF on the list, but it may come under one of the other agencies listed? I'm not sure.

Dept of Corrections has a yellow tag.

Sheriffs have yellow tags, with a star on the left, preceding the tag numbers.

FL Dept of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
http://www.flhsmv.gov/html/tagbrochure.pdf [/*]

So......

IF IF IF IF IF that was a gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF LE confiscated said gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF the judge was made aware of said gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF the yellow tag vehicle was indeed from the Dept of Corrections;

Can it be presumed that they were there to inform the Anthonys and Casey of the judge's decision on said gun?

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Do banks have armed security guards?

I would think the armed ones have to be deputized? [/*]


Banks as well as other place. The specifics on how they become armed security I do not know.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I dunno about a courtroom here in FL, but I have visited my attorney's office in shorts. Nothing at all wrong with it in FL. [/*]

We travel to Florida a lot and this is practically all we see. I have even seen older women, some that look in their late 70s or 80s wearing short shorts and old men too. Of course when I see THAT! I am like... :eek: :D but it is just the way it is in Florida. Very laid back attire.

And I know many younger guys that like the t-shirt, short shorts and baseball caps on the young women. They think it is sexy.

Now personally, I don't find Casey very attractive in the face but she has a nice lean body.

imoo

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Awwww....:rose: [/*]

Sniff, sniff. There, I'm better now. :beer:

[Motomom]

Originally posted by forensicnut


It was a "script" supposedly. [/*]

Apparently tears weren't on the script. Where is this script either, I imagine in the hands of LE :rolleyes: There is no defending this woman IMO. You don't have your kid stolen and then party and not tell anyone, then change your story again and again.. lie to LE.. I mean it's just ridiculous.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Dragon


I don't know, has someone found a copy of that? [/*]

I don't have a copy. I was just asking.

If a bond company is putting up the bond, wouldn't they also have some do's and don'ts for everybody to follow?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I find it difficult to believe that a person out on bail would be allowed into a residence where there are guns, in the car or not. jmo [/*]

I wouldn't think so either. But IF the judge has ruled, maybe it at least scared the cr#p out of Casey for one brief shining moment.

:D

[Pruddennce]

would George be that stupid to keep a gun in his wheel well?

Casey has access to the car (to open it at least)....I doubt anything that George or Cindy do in that house in an attempt to 'shut her out of knowing something or getting her hands on something', (as in keys) is a false sense of security on their part.

she stripped them financially....once burned, would they have all of the info secreted so she couldnt do more damage? sure....but she was able to do more damage, it appears....

nothing is a secret in that house for Casey A. IMO

a gun sounds so much more dangerous, but think about it: have they removed all of their knives from the home?

she can off herself plenty of ways and harm others as well with what's available in the home.

best regards,
Pru

[LeslieK]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


We travel to Florida a lot and this is practically all we see. I have even seen older women, some that look in their late 70s or 80s wearing short shorts and old men too. Of course when I see THAT! I am like... :eek: :D but it is just the way it is in Florida. Very laid back attire.

And I know many younger guys that like the t-shirt, short shorts and baseball caps on the young women. They think it is sexy.

Now personally, I don't find Casey very attractive in the face but she has a nice lean body.

imoo [/*]

I think she has a beautiful face when she's made up. Too bad nothing kind or loving goes on underneath it.

[kjt200]

Originally posted by Dragon


But they wouldn't remove the homeowner's legally possessed property.

The restriction is not placed on George Anthony. His right to own a weapon does not get infringed upon. It is Casey's right that is limited at this point.

Casey would be the one to have violated HER restriction. She would be going back to jail for violating that restriction. George's gun would not leave the premises unless he volunteered for the officers to take it.

They would have no legal right to remove his firearms, but every legal right to haul Casey right back to jail. [/*]

I don't think that is correct. Casey is on home arrest in a specific location. It's that location that must comply with the bond restrictions. It's like if someone was arrested for a child sex crime and bonded out to home arrest with the restriction that he or she not be around children. The "location" would not be approved for home arrest if children were present in the residence. Same for weapons. If you agree to "sponsor" the arrested person in your home with a no-weapon restriction, then you give up the right to keep weapons while the person is in your home.

Did that make any sense at all? I haven't had my coffee yet.

My own opinion of course...

[LeslieK]

Originally posted by Pruddennce
would George be that stupid to keep a gun in his wheel well?

Casey has access to the car (to open it at least)....I doubt anything that George or Cindy do in that house in an attempt to 'shut her out of knowing something or getting her hands on something', (as in keys) is a false sense of security on their part.

she stripped them financially....once burned, would they have all of the info secreted so she couldnt do more damage? sure....but she was able to do more damage, it appears....

nothing is a secret in that house for Casey A. IMO

a gun sounds so much more dangerous, but think about it: have they removed all of their knives from the home?

she can off herself plenty of ways and harm others as well with what's available in the home.

best regards,
Pru [/*]

GA is former le. Can he have some kind of exception because of that?

[panokatana]

It seems like making the story concerning Caylee's disappearance so complicated...was either a good thing or bad thing for Casey.

What would have happened if Casey had 7 days ago, 3 days ago...rather than 31. If she had said, sheesh mom...I am a party girl, I really didn't have a job...but we can talk about that later...my daughter is missing...since YESTERDAY! I was at the park, turned my head for a minute... or, I was drinking...didn't see what happened...someone took her, I dont know who they were. (All those "facts" could be found as untruths...but why not a simple "I dont know!)

Seems she wouldn't be any worse off now than had she told another story...probably less hated... But then again...she's home on bond.

Jmo

[Destini]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html


Also, early Saturday morning, a source close to the investigation said deputies removed a weapon from the trunk of a car belonging to Casey' father, George Anthony. Such a discovery on the Anthony property could have imperiled Casey Anthony's release from jail, but a spokesman for Orange County Corrections said that a judge ruled that Casey presumably had nothing to do with the weapon.

[LeslieK]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


We travel to Florida a lot and this is practically all we see. I have even seen older women, some that look in their late 70s or 80s wearing short shorts and old men too. Of course when I see THAT! I am like... :eek: :D but it is just the way it is in Florida. Very laid back attire.

And I know many younger guys that like the t-shirt, short shorts and baseball caps on the young women. They think it is sexy.

Now personally, I don't find Casey very attractive in the face but she has a nice lean body.

imoo [/*]

Its so hot in FLorida. I used to live on the Gulf Coast in Corpus CHristi and it was the same. THe heat can be brutal.

[LeslieK]

Originally posted by Chevalier
Ew. [/*]

If you take away the fact that she is a lying psychopathic child killer, she is pretty. You'd just have to forget all that in order to like Her. Or develop eyes in the back and sides of your head, because if she can murder her own child, she can murder anyone.

[bluwaters]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


So......

IF IF IF IF IF that was a gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF LE confiscated said gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF the judge was made aware of said gun; and

IF IF IF IF IF the yellow tag vehicle was indeed from the Dept of Corrections;

Can it be presumed that they were there to inform the Anthonys and Casey of the judge's decision on said gun? [/*]

:shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by LeslieK


GA is former le. Can he have some kind of exception because of that? [/*]

No, I don't think so.

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by kjt200


I don't think that is correct. Casey is on home arrest in a specific location. It's that location that must comply with the bond restrictions. It's like if someone was arrested for a child sex crime and bonded out to home arrest with the restriction that he or she not be around children. The "location" would not be approved for home arrest if children were present in the residence. Same for weapons. If you agree to "sponsor" the arrested person in your home with a no-weapon restriction, then you give up the right to keep weapons while the person is in your home.

Did that make any sense at all? I haven't had my coffee yet.

My own opinion of course... [/*]

But, George isn't under any legal restrictions. Only Casey. Unless he signed a legally binding agreement, and broke one of the terms of that agreement, the only one that would get in trouble is Casey. JMO

[Pruddennce]

Originally posted by LeslieK


GA is former le. Can he have some kind of exception because of that? [/*]

oh Im not addressing the reason WHY he would have a gun.

this case is about a missing child who could have experienced foul play and the mother is the POI in that regard. The mother is now classified as a defendant with regard to other counts.

she was released into their home...keeping a weapon in the environment when a child could be dead at the hands of the mother, is well scary STUFF IMO.

after all the criminal behaviour that Casey has exihibited, why would he take the chance....hence my remark questioning his intelligence.....

this family has been undermined by her....why would they think keeping a gun secreted away would really be a secret?

that is why I referenced household items....if she was going to hurt herself or someone else, it can be accomplished thru other items that have other intended purposes.

a gun is classified as a weapon.

who would want that on their conscience, not removing it and then something happens.....

best regards,
Pru

[LeslieK]

Originally posted by SandyO
When do you think Cindy and George first realized Casey didn't really have a job at all? It seemed to me that George was fully believing Casey went off to her job each day......but when did they learn the truth? [/*]

I wondered about that too. I wonder if they ever checked up on her. Obviously they knew she wasn't an honest person and was irresponsible. I have to winder if they really cared all that much about her. Even if they had no idea how rotten she is, they did know how immature and irresponsible she was and how much she lied to them. WHy did they trust her with the baby?

[panokatana]

Originally posted by LeslieK


Its so hot in FLorida. I used to live on the Gulf Coast in Corpus CHristi and it was the same. THe heat can be brutal. [/*]

Florida sounds pretty good! Imagine never having to dress to impress! Hang Ten and flip flops to a job interview..."Dude, it's hot...but I swear, come winter, I am totally Beau Brummell"

When I lived in Hawaii, dressing up was wearing socks with sandals!

JMO

[MyrDawn]

Originally posted by LeslieK


I wondered about that too. I wonder if they ever checked up on her. Obviously they knew she wasn't an honest person and was irresponsible. I have to winder if they really cared all that much about her. Even if they had no idea how rotten she is, they did know how immature and irresponsible she was and how much she lied to them. WHy did they trust her with the baby? [/*]

Because it was her baby and she had custody of her, not the grandparents, so they had no say in the matter. You can't just take someone's child away from them because you don't like how they act.

Rumor is that they told Casey that they were going to seek custody of Caylee, but I don't know if that's true or not.

JMO

[CinTN]

There was something going on there a few minz ago,, a red H3 was pulled up in front of the web cam for a few minutes 2 people were talking to someone outside the drivers side window then a camera guy walked up to the car,,, not sure what that was all about..

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Pruddennce]

Originally posted by LeslieK


I wondered about that too. I wonder if they ever checked up on her. Obviously they knew she wasn't an honest person and was irresponsible. I have to winder if they really cared all that much about her. Even if they had no idea how rotten she is, they did know how immature and irresponsible she was and how much she lied to them. WHy did they trust her with the baby? [/*]

Cindy was prompted to check up on her: she called Ryan P (its in his statement) 3-3.5 weeks before Caylee went missing....the gist of that conversatin was: Cindy sharing nefarious undertakings with him regarding Casey (stealing from Cindy's mother)...and then Ryan verified Casey never worked at Sports Authority awhile back with Ryan.

Casey had told her mother that.

Cindy was gathering information, told Ryan to stay away from her that Casey was a sociopath and she didnt want him to get hurt.

so that conversation indicates that things were spiralling a month before Caylee went missing.

I said it before: the erroneous 'last time we saw Caylee" dates were significant only as it concerned the falling out and most probably Casey left the home the week before the 15th. (as evidenced by friends' statement she moved out around June 9th).

Caylee went with Cindy to see Cindy's father. it appears Casey permitted that outing, but in reality, she wasnt home anymore.

the friends' statements directly contradict George's statement that all was well at home and she went to work 'as usual' on June 16th.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Pruddennce]

Originally posted by MyrDawn


Because it was her baby and she had custody of her, not the grandparents, so they had no say in the matter. You can't just take someone's child away from them because you don't like how they act.

Rumor is that they told Casey that they were going to seek custody of Caylee, but I don't know if that's true or not.

JMO [/*]

it wasnt a rumour: Cindy uttered that on the 911 call, she was on hold and was being recorded.....

it infers it was a threat probably said many times in the past.

you are correct, a lying, stealing mother isnt a foundation for winning custody...its a long process to prove incompetency and the child's welfare has been compromised.

best regards,
Pru

[SandyO]

Originally posted by LeslieK


I wondered about that too. I wonder if they ever checked up on her. Obviously they knew she wasn't an honest person and was irresponsible. I have to winder if they really cared all that much about her. Even if they had no idea how rotten she is, they did know how immature and irresponsible she was and how much she lied to them. WHy did they trust her with the baby? [/*]

My feeling on that is that Cindy thought, "Now Casey will see how it is to be responsible for this small child on her own, and she'll appreciate us more". Unfortunately, Casey couldn't handle it at all.

[Cheri_G]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Did you enlarge it? [/*]

Yes.

[anon-o-miss]

Originally posted by barskin&co.


Oh, I think it's deternmined. There is no Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez with a roommate, Raquel Farrell, who works as a hostess at TGIFriday's, nor is there a big sister, Samantha, or a silver 2008 Ford Focus.
I don't think there's any mystery to that. [/*]
My post was not clear I was stating that it can't be proven that Raquel exists and the fact that there are other people in this story ( Juliet lewis, ZFG, Sam and her children) that have proven non existent is becoming a common theme in this case. I didn't say it was a mystery.

[BJames]

Originally posted by panokatana
I wouldn't think Baez would even have the faintest interest in Casey in any other way but a client. But it is common for a client to fall for their attorney, and I wouldn't be surprised if Casey hasn't fallen a bit for Baez. She has been known to fall hard and quick (according to reports), and here is this man who is protecting her (something some suspect George of failing to do when it came to Cindy). Someone who has told people he believes her, who shelters her from the press with his umbrella, who comes to her home at night.. In her mind, he could very well LOVE her, her knight in shining armor... and that's why she smiles at him, cuddles, bakes, shows skin (as some have said). Perhaps she thinks THIS is her new life, the "celebrity" life, the old one doesn't matter. It could possibly be the only way she know how to show affection to a male.

JMO [/*]

I am still behind in reading but I had to say I think that you are right on the money here...
The first time I saw Casey in court I figured that she was going to start to look young and child like, lose weight...appear to be a 'victim' of everyone...her parents, the 'kidnappers', the media...LE..
It seems that she has has been looking for a 'protector' for a very long time..hence the many males in her life...looking for love in all of the wrong places.

Just my opinion of course..