Caylee Anthony A.M thread 09/06/08

[day2day]

Originally posted by Boxer


for me it was throwing out those toys sent by people who's hearts were breaking for them...who does that carp! [/*]

That has to be the RUDEST thing I have ever heard of. And IMO if they thought Caylee was alive..WHY would they throw out these precious gifts. IMO they knew she was never coming home ...

Wasn't it Cindy who said she would walk every square inch of the earth to look for Caylee? I am half-tempted to send her some tennis shoes so she can hit the ground running. JMO

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by n/t


Maybe just maybe, they know where she's is burried and have accepted that.

:shrug: [/*]

If so I hope LE is tailing them when they leave the house.


Caylee:rose:

[Boxer]

Originally posted by day2day


That has to be the RUDEST thing I have ever heard of. And IMO if they thought Caylee was alive..WHY would they throw out these precious gifts. IMO they knew she was never coming home ...

Wasn't it Cindy who said she would walk every square inch of the earth to look for Caylee? I am half-tempted to send her some tennis shoes so she can hit the ground running. JMO [/*]

yes, in every nook and cranny.

great idea by the way....I like how you think!:)

[KatieKates]

Originally posted by Boxer


holy toledo!

Leonard Padilla lost me as soon as I googled him:mad: [/*]

They need to push this guy to the side unless he comes up with something, anything, credible! Right now I see him as being no better than Casey. He's purposely being elusive and cryptic, as if to suggest he knows more than he's saying. He's wasting everyone's time.

You're the bounty hunter who promised to deliver, so where is Caylee?

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Boxer


rocket scientists will ignore something just because they think it is a small problem even when other rocket scientists try to tell them it's a big problem, the the rocket goes up killin 7 astronauts....:shrug:

I bet there are statements in her record from high school saying needs councelling.... [/*]IIRC, Casey was a cheerleader and was very popular. :confused:

[n/t]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


If so I hope LE is tailing them when they leave the house.


Caylee:rose: [/*]

There's been speculation that George hasn't been around alot lately.

I agree. I hope LE is tailing them.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by msgatorslayer


Yeah, I don't think the grands are responsible for harming Caylee. And Casey saying 'their gonna pin this on me' - well, what else can she say in her own defense? She knew that LE knew her story was bogus.

Cindy, IMO, is possesive of Caylee and thinks of her as her own. Thats why I'm amazed that she chooses to protect Casey and not find out the truth about what happened to Caylee. [/*]
"their gonna pin this on me"
It seems to me that I have heard other (guilty) perps. say much the same thing...there aren't any "guilty" people in jail, just ask them.
JMO.

[AMS]

Originally posted by n/t


Maybe just maybe, they know where she's is burried and have accepted that.

:shrug: [/*]

If so, they'll go back there some day. They better be watching over their shoulders....

[Boxer]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


If so I hope LE is tailing them when they leave the house.


Caylee:rose: [/*]

lol, maybe in taking something from George's car they added a lil something as well....:D maybe he got a LoJack

[Boxer]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
IIRC, Casey was a cheerleader and was very popular. :confused: [/*]

who didn't graduate and has sealed juvie record...

[kOOkie1]

Originally posted by AMS
WOnder if Nancy Grace is aware that Lennie told Greta a story completely opposite of the one he told Nancy. I hope they both decide that they don't need to waste their air-time with Lennie any more. IMO it's time for Lennie to leave the case. I don't think he is useful at this point.

He told Nancy that he had been on the phone with Lee 24/7 talking about bonding Casey out if she would tell him where Casey is. Lennie told Greta that he hasn't spoken with Lee since he left Orlando. [/*]

..yeaa didnt LP say Lee calls all the time.. I seem to find it hard to believe anything he says..I think he sorta says what he thinks everyone wants to hear at the time.(imo)

[ellegna]

Originally posted by n/t


Maybe just maybe, they know where she's is burried and have accepted that.

:shrug: [/*]

Oh I hope you're wrong :(

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


If so I hope LE is tailing them when they leave the house.


Caylee:rose: [/*]I'm pretty sure they are. Probably Lee, too. imo

[day2day]

Originally posted by Boxer


yes, in every nook and cranny.

great idea by the way....I like how you think!:) [/*]

Of course I am pretty sure she would never wear them. She has to stay by the phone..OH wait..Casey is home now ..SHE can take all the 1000s of calls..and Cindy could hit that trail running..
HMmmm...wonder what size she wears?! :D

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by n/t


There's been speculation that George hasn't been around alot lately.

I agree. I hope LE is tailing them. [/*]


I think LE may be or should be doing the following:

1. Check all phone pings following the 911 calls for George, Lee, and Cindy for the few days following.
2. Search and cadaver dog all the vehicles.
3. Follow them all when they leave the house but with GPS monitoring
4. Tap the phones and computers

[bchand]

Originally posted by Boxer


who didn't graduate and has sealed juvie record... [/*]

Details, details Boxer :)


From the search as of 7 am - dozens of cars already pulling in to command post:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by Boxer


lol, maybe in taking something from George's car they added a lil something as well....:D maybe he got a LoJack [/*]

I hope so.

[Watcher]

Is it possible LE was removing a tracking device from George's car this AM? Sorry if this has already been discussed ~~ I rarely post, but I found this info intriguing.

[SwFlorida]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
He said he was going to rotate the tires. I don't see how those wheel chocks would be of assistance for that. You can't rotate tires easily without a hoist. :confused: imo [/*]
Here is the link to GA talking about needing the chocks and finding the gas gans. Sounded way to detailed to me. Like it was rehearsed. Link also shows the backyard.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963763&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/caylee/index.html

[st777jo]

Originally posted by commonguymd



I think LE may be or should be doing the following:

1. Check all phone pings following the 911 calls for George, Lee, and Cindy for the few days following.
2. Search and cadaver dog all the vehicles.
3. Follow them all when they leave the house but with GPS monitoring
4. Tap the phones and computers [/*]

That would be great if Caylee being missing was the only crime going on.

[5boxersmom]

It's bad enough Casey was out partying, getting tattoos, playing house with Tone, stealing money,cc and checks while Caylee was missing. But then you have the GP's making money off of those videos and bailing her out.

Why didn't they take every bit of that money and hire PI's all over the country if they think LE is not doing a good job? Why didn't ALL of that money go to finding Caylee? Even if they hire PI's now it will still look bad to me because they got Casey out first.

Makes me sick to my stomach that they sold Caylee out and for Casey of all things. :cuss: jmo


Caylee:rose:

[AMS]

At the beginning of the NG show last night Nancy said that searchers were being told to looked for a rolled up rug, a duffle bag and bones. Was there any more info given during the show as to why they said this?

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by Watcher
Is it possible LE was removing a tracking device from George's car this AM? Sorry if this has already been discussed ~~ I rarely post, but I found this info intriguing. [/*]


OH I never thought of that. Good idea.

Don't be shy keep posting.

:D

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by AMS


ITA and they probably didn't know the depth of the lies and the types of stories/pictures (like the hot body contest) that would come out bringing this into the national spotlight. [/*]

Yep, we're not hearing what a good mother casey is anymore, thank God.

Ron Mott of msnbc is reporting that he contacted Mark Nejame and he is on the way to meet one of the anthonys this morning. Was unaware of the visit by LE to the anthony home last night.

[Keegan]

Originally posted by AMS
At the beginning of the NG show last night Nancy said that searchers were being told to looked for a rolled up rug, a duffle bag and bones. Was there any more info given during the show as to why they said this? [/*]

A link was shown yesterday that said this was normal during a search for a body.

[st777jo]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom
It's bad enough Casey was out partying, getting tattoos, playing house with Tone, stealing money,cc and checks while Caylee was missing. But then you have the GP's making money off of those videos and bailing her out.

Why didn't they take every bit of that money and hire PI's all over the country if they think LE is not doing a good job? Why didn't ALL of that money go to finding Caylee? Even if they hire PI's now it will still look bad to me because they got Casey out first.

Makes me sick to my stomach that they sold Caylee out and for Casey of all things. :cuss: jmo


Caylee:rose: [/*]

ITA

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by AMS
At the beginning of the NG show last night Nancy said that searchers were being told to looked for a rolled up rug, a duffle bag and bones. Was there any more info given during the show as to why they said this? [/*]

i know you're always told to look for carpet, clothes, etc. anything that looks out of place

and it's obvious why you look for bones

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by SwFlorida

Here is the link to GA talking about needing the chocks and finding the gas gans. Sounded way to detailed to me. Like it was rehearsed. Link also shows the backyard.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963763&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/caylee/index.html [/*]

I think he is like his daughter. When he lies he gives to much info. jmo


Caylee:rose:

[AMS]

Originally posted by joolz


AMS - just pm'd you the info. [/*]

Got it. Thanks very much.

[jammies]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


I think he is like his daughter. When he lies he gives to much info. jmo


Caylee:rose: [/*]



Exactly. Two peas in a pod.

[AMS]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


i know you're always told to look for carpet, clothes, etc. anything that looks out of place

and it's obvious why you look for bones [/*]


Got it. I didn't know if I missed something and a rug was missing from somewhere...something like that.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


I hope so. [/*]


Speaking of that, folks watching the camera last night are wondering why did Casey and Lee get in the car last night for 10-15 minutes right in the driveway. Casey got out and went back in the house and then Lee took off?

House bugged?


Need to question Lee again. He needs to be followed if not being already. Did she go to the car, and if she did were they planning on moving the remains?


Not sure if it was her or not for sure - just people saying it was (wearing the short shorts of course) and if it was I doubt it breaks the bond issue. She can be in the driveway I imagine.

[bchand]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Yep, we're not hearing what a good mother casey is anymore, thank God.

Ron Mott of msnbc is reporting that he contacted Mark Nejame and he is on the way to meet one of the anthonys this morning. Was unaware of the visit by LE to the anthony home last night. [/*]

TY Regina - I'm not surprised about the lack of communication between the Anthonys and their new lawyer. He'll wonder soon what he got himself into.

[ccat]

I was wondering if perhaps George removed the body from the backyard - but what about Casey's car backed in the garage?
Perhaps - she brought Caylee home after she died elsewhere and buried her. Then when GA found out he helped remove her?

[ccat]

Originally posted by commonguymd



Speaking of that, folks watching the camera last night are wondering why did Casey and Lee get in the car last night for 10-15 minutes right in the driveway. Casey got out and went back in the house and then Lee took off?

House bugged?


Need to question Lee again. He needs to be followed if not being already. Did she go to the car, and if she did were they planning on moving the remains?


Not sure if it was her or not for sure - just people saying it was (wearing the short shorts of course) and if it was I doubt it breaks the bond issue. She can be in the driveway I imagine. [/*]

Yes, it was once said the]at she confided in Lee. That makes sense that he would allow her to confide in his car.
I hope LE reads these boards. I hope they watch/listen to Lee.
I am sure the Anthony's suspect the house is bugged and even in their in-house conversations continue to blow smoke.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by AMS
WOnder if Nancy Grace is aware that Lennie told Greta a story completely opposite of the one he told Nancy. I hope they both decide that they don't need to waste their air-time with Lennie any more. IMO it's time for Lennie to leave the case. I don't think he is useful at this point.

He told Nancy that he had been on the phone with Lee 24/7 talking about bonding Casey out if she would tell him where Casey is. Lennie told Greta that he hasn't spoken with Lee since he left Orlando. [/*]

This is exactly why I don't believe a word Padilla says. (Although I think his heart is in the right place...if that makes sense.) As far as the other quote, about him saying that Casey told Lee what happened, and Lee told Cindy.....HUGE guess on his part. He has no way of knowing. But yet if he says it on national TV, people who don't know any better start believing he has "inside info" and he's telling the truth. He's throwing it out there IN CASE it might be true, then he'll come off as a hero who predicted what happened if it comes to light that way. :rolleyes:

[WinnieLeigh7]

i keep hearing these reporters allude to the reason no arrest has been made is because there is not enough evidence.

first of all, i don't believe that to be the case, i believe they are very well aware that caylee is dead and that they have more than enough evidence to prove that.

but what i'm starting to question is do that have enough to show at whose hands she died.

it's apparent casey is a big liar...
but it's also pretty apparent to me that the grandparents are less than honest themselves.

i brought up this theory last night...
not necessarily what i believe, well not really sure what to believe anymore...

but anyway

what if the 'fight' of the15th that neighbors reported, wasn't actually a 'fight' in the sense that we're thinking of...

what if that is when whatever happened, happened...

are we sure at whose hands, under whose care

but then the ''30 script'' took course and the cover up began...

is that what le is lacking...

not the evidence that she's dead, but the evidence of exactly who did it and who helped after the fact...

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by day2day


Sorry I disagree. There is a reason why George and Cindy hired that upscale defense attorney! JMO [/*]

I agree, the laptop is actually Cindy's... She stated as much, although Casey had use of it. I'll bet not only was chloroform searched on that laptop, I'll bet it was purchased and paid for by a credit card in Cindy's name. Hence the hiring of a criminal defense attorney.

Also, the very fact that they are determined to keep the father of Caylee a secret is very suspect. Casey was a thief, always looking for free buck, no way, no how did she just opt to not go after the father of her baby for child support. If in fact he was indeed dead, Caylee would qualify to receive SS benefits. There is a very good reason that the father of Caylee has remained taboo, it is someone they don't want the public to know about, or Casey was such a tramp, even back in 2004, that she doesn't know who the father is. I can't decide which one I lean towards more.

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by commonguymd



Speaking of that, folks watching the camera last night are wondering why did Casey and Lee get in the car last night for 10-15 minutes right in the driveway. Casey got out and went back in the house and then Lee took off?

House bugged?


Need to question Lee again. He needs to be followed if not being already. Did she go to the car, and if she did were they planning on moving the remains?


Not sure if it was her or not for sure - just people saying it was (wearing the short shorts of course) and if it was I doubt it breaks the bond issue. She can be in the driveway I imagine. [/*]

Well if they didn't think about being bugged they probably do now after the TH's on NG the other night said their phone's are probably tapped.

I didn't know about them sitting in the car. Very interesting.jmo


Caylee:rose:

[jammies]

Originally posted by commonguymd



Speaking of that, folks watching the camera last night are wondering why did Casey and Lee get in the car last night for 10-15 minutes right in the driveway. Casey got out and went back in the house and then Lee took off?

House bugged?


Need to question Lee again. He needs to be followed if not being already. Did she go to the car, and if she did were they planning on moving the remains?


Not sure if it was her or not for sure - just people saying it was (wearing the short shorts of course) and if it was I doubt it breaks the bond issue. She can be in the driveway I imagine. [/*]


What time was that? I watched that camera until it went down and didn't see anything like that.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Barbara fl.



Yes, it makes a lot of sense....Ciny doesn't want to lose her daughter and she KNOWS she already lost her granddaughter...No one can be in that much denial..I would not want to be in any of their shoes by any means. BUT, I believe if I realized that my child deliberately harmed their own child I would not be able to stand by them...If I thought it was an accident, I would stand by them...In this case, I think it is obvious that it was no accident... [/*]

I wish there were some clergy that could take cynthia aside and explain to her that if she knows casey did somehting to Caylee, then she is already lost.

The only way to save herself is to come clean, help recover that little babygirl and take her punishment.

If casey anthony does that she truly has a chance to be saved.

IMO.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Boxer


who didn't graduate and has sealed juvie record... [/*]

A poster stated she has a sealed juvie record. No one else, to my knowledge. So, to me that's not a proven fact.

[AMS]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


This is exactly why I don't believe a word Padilla says. (Although I think his heart is in the right place...if that makes sense.) As far as the other quote, about him saying that Casey told Lee what happened, and Lee told Cindy.....HUGE guess on his part. He has no way of knowing. But yet if he says it on national TV, people who don't know any better start believing he has "inside info" and he's telling the truth. He's throwing it out there IN CASE it might be true, then he'll come off as a hero who predicted what happened if it comes to light that way. :rolleyes: [/*]


Your comment on his heart being int he right place does make sense tome. I agree but do think it is time for him to move on. There must be some other criminals that need to be hunted...

[VC2]

Originally posted by Armchairdet
Good morning :seeya:

I missed all the excitement overnight. But after reading this mornings thread I have changed my idea on what happened again. If I am anywhere close to correct, they will be searching Cindy's car soon. [/*]

actually i am thinking that it will be very easy to get a warrant in this case, for any item they want and it all may just be a question of playing head games with casey.

They know a 3 am visit will immediately make her think she will be rearrested so they do this and in a few days again trying to drive her over the edge.

[joolz]

Originally posted by ccat


Yes, it was once said the]at she confided in Lee. That makes sense that he would allow her to confide in his car.
I hope LE reads these boards. I hope they watch/listen to Lee.
I am sure the Anthony's suspect the house is bugged and even in their in-house conversations continue to blow smoke. [/*]

I have a question, since most of my criminal/legal knowledge comes from fiction and television. Is it legal to bug someone's house? And can that information be used against them?

[Keegan]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


This is exactly why I don't believe a word Padilla says. (Although I think his heart is in the right place...if that makes sense.) As far as the other quote, about him saying that Casey told Lee what happened, and Lee told Cindy.....HUGE guess on his part. He has no way of knowing. But yet if he says it on national TV, people who don't know any better start believing he has "inside info" and he's telling the truth. He's throwing it out there IN CASE it might be true, then he'll come off as a hero who predicted what happened if it comes to light that way. :rolleyes: [/*]

Could be LE is using him as a tool to rile things up between the family.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by commonguymd



I think LE may be or should be doing the following:

1. Check all phone pings following the 911 calls for George, Lee, and Cindy for the few days following.
2. Search and cadaver dog all the vehicles.
3. Follow them all when they leave the house but with GPS monitoring
4. Tap the phones and computers [/*]

and amy's

she drove amy's car

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by ccat
I was wondering if perhaps George removed the body from the backyard - but what about Casey's car backed in the garage?
Perhaps - she brought Caylee home after she died elsewhere and buried her. Then when GA found out he helped remove her? [/*]


That is why I was saying. Her car got too stinky so she backed the car in, borrowed a shovel from the neighbor, and buried her in the backyard. Then she got rid of the car hoping someone would steal it. When the car was found, Cindy found Casey and no Caylee. They already knew something was probably wrong. She called 911. Before the searchers hit the house, Cindy and George tore threw the backyard. Then they cleaned the car out. Washed pants, knife, etc.

Since the 911 calls were already placed, there was nothing they could do but coverup and backtrack.

imo

[ccat]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I wish there were some clergy that could take cynthia aside and explain to her that if she knows casey did somehting to Caylee, then she is already lost.

The only way to save herself is to come clean, help recover that little babygirl and take her punishment.

If casey anthony does that she truly has a chance to be saved.

IMO. [/*]

Yes, she is always wearing a cross. I'm not sure what she believes. I often see guilty people on courttv wearing crosses and adopting religious beliefs conveniently at the last moment.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7
i keep hearing these reporters allude to the reason no arrest has been made is because there is not enough evidence.

first of all, i don't believe that to be the case, i believe they are very well aware that caylee is dead and that they have more than enough evidence to prove that.

but what i'm starting to question is do that have enough to show at whose hands she died.

it's apparent casey is a big liar...
but it's also pretty apparent to me that the grandparents are less than honest themselves.

i brought up this theory last night...
not necessarily what i believe, well not really sure what to believe anymore...

but anyway

what if the 'fight' of the15th that neighbors reported, wasn't actually a 'fight' in the sense that we're thinking of...

what if that is when whatever happened, happened...

are we sure at whose hands, under whose care

but then the ''30 script'' took course and the cover up began...

is that what le is lacking...

not the evidence that she's dead, but the evidence of exactly who did it and who helped after the fact... [/*]

morning Winnie:seeya:

I can't discount the sheer terror and panic in Cindy's voice in the 3rd 911 call. That may be the only truth Cindy has told but to me it showed she knew nothing up till that time

I see I missed alot in the middle of the night LOL my Cam link isn't working...is yours???

[Fallen Angel]

Good Morning Everyone


Thank you :rose:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by AMS



Got it. I didn't know if I missed something and a rug was missing from somewhere...something like that. [/*]

i dunno that any type of 'device' would have been needed to tote caylee

she's so small...

but i think that's why that is 'normal' search material.

i have my tes instructions somewhere that i was going to try to find and put on here exactly what you're instructed to look for...

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Keegan


Could be LE is using him as a tool to rile things up between the family. [/*]

That is quite possible I think!

[joolz]

Originally posted by Keegan


Could be LE is using him as a tool to rile things up between the family. [/*]

I'll agree with the tool part.

[Armchairdet]

Does anybody else remember very very early on Cindy saying in front of cameras that the family is very close, and that she and George told Casey and Lee that if anything ever happened to them to stick together no matter what because all they would have is each other?

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
Good Morning Everyone


Thank you :rose: [/*]

I hope you are feeling better today {{{HUG}}}

Did you read that LE went to C & G's this morn at 3 am :eek:

took something from George's car

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Armchairdet
Does anybody else remember very very early on Cindy saying in front of cameras that the family is very close, and that she and George told Casey and Lee that if anything ever happened to them to stick together no matter what because all they would have is each other? [/*]

I believe it was George, at the bond hearing.

[desmom]

I see LE made an early morning visit to the Anthony's and removed something from George's car. Someone suggested it was the chocks.

IMO, http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery the sack does not appear to have enough weight to be the chocks. (There are two pics. The sack of evidence is Pic #2)

Did Cindy ever drive George's car? Did Casey ever ask to borrow her dad's car? jmo

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by starling


from your link~
September 6, 2008 2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony's father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence


~Maybe it is his 'tire tool' George had gone looking for in Casey's trunk when he discovered the cans. Possibly the tire tool has trace evidence frm Casey's trunk [/*]OMG :eek: i bet Ms Cindy is PISSSSSSSSSSED off today

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by jammies



What time was that? I watched that camera until it went down and didn't see anything like that. [/*]

4:15pm yesterday it looks like.

[day2day]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


I agree, the laptop is actually Cindy's... She stated as much, although Casey had use of it. I'll bet not only was chloroform searched on that laptop, I'll bet it was purchased and paid for by a credit card in Cindy's name. Hence the hiring of a criminal defense attorney.

Also, the very fact that they are determined to keep the father of Caylee a secret is very suspect. Casey was a thief, always looking for free buck, no way, no how did she just opt to not go after the father of her baby for child support. If in fact he was indeed dead, Caylee would qualify to receive SS benefits. There is a very good reason that the father of Caylee has remained taboo, it is someone they don't want the public to know about, or Casey was such a tramp, even back in 2004, that she doesn't know who the father is. I can't decide which one I lean towards more. [/*]

GREAT post. So if this is Cindy's laptop and her credit card..i wonder if Cindy is the one who needed the chloroform?! I am 90 percent convinced this woman is wayyyyyyyyyyy involved in this.

You are also spot on about Caylee's Daddy. IF for one second Princess Casey could get a dime from some boy for FREE she woulda hopped right on it! The Anthony's would have paid for the paternity testing...

Oh now my mind is realllllllllllllllllly going in circles..

:seeya:

[ccat]

Originally posted by commonguymd



That is why I was saying. Her car got too stinky so she backed the car in, borrowed a shovel from the neighbor, and buried her in the backyard. Then she got rid of the car hoping someone would steal it. When the car was found, Cindy found Casey and no Caylee. They already knew something was probably wrong. She called 911. Before the searchers hit the house, Cindy and George tore threw the backyard. Then they cleaned the car out. Washed pants, knife, etc.

Since the 911 calls were already placed, there was nothing they could do but coverup and backtrack.

imo [/*]

Sounds very possible.

[commonguymd]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


and amy's

she drove amy's car [/*]


Good point!

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by desmom
I see LE made an early morning visit to the Anthony's and removed something from George's car. Someone suggested it was the chocks.

IMO, http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery the sack does not appear to have enough weight to be the chocks. (There are two pics. The sack of evidence is Pic #2)

Did Cindy ever drive George's car? Did Casey ever ask to borrow her dad's car? jmo [/*]ty ty for the link. i'm just sitting here shocked :eek:

[joolz]

Originally posted by day2day


GREAT post. So if this is Cindy's laptop and her credit card..i wonder if Cindy is the one who needed the chloroform?! I am 90 percent convinced this woman is wayyyyyyyyyyy involved in this.

You are also spot on about Caylee's Daddy. IF for one second Princess Casey could get a dime from some boy for FREE she woulda hopped right on it! The Anthony's would have paid for the paternity testing...

Oh now my mind is realllllllllllllllllly going in circles..

:seeya: [/*]

If Cindy was stupid enough to order chloroform of the internet, there should be a solid paper (well, cyber) trail.

I don't believe Casey knows who the father is.

JMHO as always.

[ccat]

Originally posted by day2day


GREAT post. So if this is Cindy's laptop and her credit card..i wonder if Cindy is the one who needed the chloroform?! I am 90 percent convinced this woman is wayyyyyyyyyyy involved in this.

You are also spot on about Caylee's Daddy. IF for one second Princess Casey could get a dime from some boy for FREE she woulda hopped right on it! The Anthony's would have paid for the paternity testing...

Oh now my mind is realllllllllllllllllly going in circles..

:seeya: [/*]

I always wondered about the paternity:
I wondered about the significance of the name CayLEE.
OR
Judging from the pictures, she appears to "get around", so
Perhaps she doesn't know?

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by desmom
I see LE made an early morning visit to the Anthony's and removed something from George's car. Someone suggested it was the chocks.

IMO, http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery the sack does not appear to have enough weight to be the chocks. (There are two pics. The sack of evidence is Pic #2)

Did Cindy ever drive George's car? Did Casey ever ask to borrow her dad's car? jmo [/*]

I am not sure what chocks look like...guess I better go find out :read:

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


I believe it was George, at the bond hearing. [/*]


Thank you. I really am having trouble remembering everything correctly. If it was not for this board, who knows what I would think. LOL

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


morning Winnie:seeya:

I can't discount the sheer terror and panic in Cindy's voice in the 3rd 911 call. That may be the only truth Cindy has told but to me it showed she knew nothing up till that time

I see I missed alot in the middle of the night LOL my Cam link isn't working...is yours??? [/*]


mornin' katie :seeya:

haven't got to the point of pulling my cam up yet, still have numerous threads open trying to get caught up lol

as for the 911 call...
to me, i don't hear all that much panic and terror...
i actually hear 'script' lol okay, that's not funny...

but it's true, that's what i hear, the tone just isn't right to me, even the 'pauses', it's almost as if she's being told what to say in some way

plus a big factor to me is that she already had casey for hours prior to that...
and the car...

she just then went into terror mood :confused:

my terror/panic would have started at no contact for a month, increased with finding the car, built with find casey and no caylee...and then hit complete mania

[Fallen Angel]

I hate to say this but they must have seen this coming......why else hire a high powered lawyer?:shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by joolz


I have a question, since most of my criminal/legal knowledge comes from fiction and television. Is it legal to bug someone's house? And can that information be used against them? [/*]

yes (with a court order) and yes

[dreamtime]

Leonard P is the only one who said there was the ZFG abduction of Caylee as told to him by Casey.
But even though he has helped some in this case, I think he does not know when to quit. He has said he talked to Casey once, that Casey never talked to him and now she has this conversation with him.
I don't know that I think that script story is real. Real as in told by Casey who told Leonard P who then told a nationwide audience.

[jammies]

Originally posted by commonguymd


4:15pm yesterday it looks like. [/*]



Thanks!

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by joolz


If Cindy was stupid enough to order chloroform of the internet, there should be a solid paper (well, cyber) trail.

I don't believe Casey knows who the father is.

JMHO as always. [/*]

I don't think it was Cindy that searched and possibly ordered chloroform. I believe it was Casey. We don't know that it was actually ordered and delivered to any of them. I was surmising why after the leak of chloroform that Cindy and George retained a criminal defense atty. Perhaps it was ordered on the laptop, and we all know how Casey likes to shop on mommy's cc....

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by CinTN



I know some of you hate this theory but I myself think Lee is the father,, but,, what about this guy she was supposed to go meet in CA, a Marine I think? Some are saying he might be/is the father? [/*]


I don't understand why anyone would think Lee is the father. Some use Caylees name as the reasoning behind it, but if that were true...who would advertise incest by naming the child that way? Come on.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

Wonder why 3 a.m.? What couldn't wait til morning? Or are they messing with them?


What is that thing Cindy carries? An alarm of some kind I heard on tv. Does she use so she can't hear the reporters because she can't keep her mouth shut?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[day2day]

Originally posted by joolz


If Cindy was stupid enough to order chloroform of the internet, there should be a solid paper (well, cyber) trail.

I don't believe Casey knows who the father is.

JMHO as always. [/*]

I hope there is. Of course if the purchase was used with CA's credit card..she will say Casey stole it.
I still am not sure about Caylee's Daddy..i'm still workin on that ..
i do wonder why she didn't narrow it down..to collect some cash?!


always jmo

[ccat]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7



mornin' katie :seeya:

haven't got to the point of pulling my cam up yet, still have numerous threads open trying to get caught up lol

as for the 911 call...
to me, i don't hear all that much panic and terror...
i actually hear 'script' lol okay, that's not funny...

but it's true, that's what i hear, the tone just isn't right to me, even the 'pauses', it's almost as if she's being told what to say in some way

plus a big factor to me is that she already had casey for hours prior to that...
and the car...

she just then went into terror mood :confused:

my terror/panic would have started at no contact for a month, increased with finding the car, built with find casey and no caylee...and then hit complete mania [/*]

That may be true, an orchestrated 911 call.In the call, she did say may daughter has been missing. Maybe she was trying to set up the "kidnapping" theory.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7



mornin' katie :seeya:

haven't got to the point of pulling my cam up yet, still have numerous threads open trying to get caught up lol

as for the 911 call...
to me, i don't hear all that much panic and terror...
i actually hear 'script' lol okay, that's not funny...

but it's true, that's what i hear, the tone just isn't right to me, even the 'pauses', it's almost as if she's being told what to say in some way

plus a big factor to me is that she already had casey for hours prior to that...
and the car...

she just then went into terror mood :confused:

my terror/panic would have started at no contact for a month, increased with finding the car, built with find casey and no caylee...and then hit complete mania [/*]

the way "they" (I know :rolleyes: ) say it went down is Casey didn't fess up to Caylee being missing for a month until right before that 3rd 911 call. I don't know...sounded real on Cindy's part to me. Guess we will just have to wait and see!

[n/t]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I wish there were some clergy that could take cynthia aside and explain to her that if she knows casey did somehting to Caylee, then she is already lost.

The only way to save herself is to come clean, help recover that little babygirl and take her punishment.

If casey anthony does that she truly has a chance to be saved.

IMO. [/*]

Me too.

[VC2]

Originally posted by KatieKates


Some people out there are suggesting Lee is the father of Caylee, some are suggesting the GP's got rid of the body, some are accusing the */f, etc. Casey killed her daughter. You can put everyone's actions under a microscope and turn them sinister regardless of any validity and with all this build up I can tell you it's all going to come down to Casey and Casey alone. FWIW Take it with a grain... [/*]

ITA!! i can't believe how many think george or cindy or both know what happened and were cleaning dead caylee traces from the trunk.

i don't think they have a clue, except down deep know she is dead, and are doing anything they can to believe she is alive.

don't like them but don't see anything sinister in their behavior..in fact i would really wonder at them if they could believe caylee was dead at casey's hands for the first weeks and even now i understand that they will publicly fight for her being alive and even still have that hope If they did accept caylee was dead quickly then they really are sick bc its not normal to think your daughter could kill her granddaughter. Its the worst crime possible and i just don't see it. For us..sure, we aren't emotinally attached to casey and arent her parents

imo

[threesnugbugs]

As for not identifying a father, I believe that they just didn't want to have to share Caylee with another family and have to work through any visitation or custody issues. Keeping control over the Anthony family and any of its members was more of an issue.

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by day2day


I hope there is. Of course if the purchase was used with CA's credit card..she will say Casey stole it.
I still am not sure about Caylee's Daddy..i'm still workin on that ..
i do wonder why she didn't narrow it down..to collect some cash?!


always jmo [/*]

Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase?

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom
Wonder why 3 a.m.? What couldn't wait til morning? Or are they messing with them?


What is that thing Cindy carries? An alarm of some kind I heard on tv. Does she use so she can't hear the reporters because she can't keep her mouth shut?

jmo

Caylee:rose: [/*]they might have found out about new evidence and went and got it right then. my cousin works for the san antonio sheriffs dept and he said they work cases like this 24/7. They have several shifts working it.

[courtsinsession]

I do not nor ever did believe that the grand parents are involved in this at all...I believe that what ever the police were doing with George's car was probably just a routene thing that was left out. I actually feel more bad for George then for Cindy, he seems to be taking Caylees loss a lot worse then the rest of the family. He probably adored that little girl and, inside, is blaming Casey completely.

George always spoke freely to the cameras and didn't try to cover up Casey's actions. George just refuses to believe that Caylee is dead, (this is totally understandable), no one would want to believe the worst, you want to hold on to the last bit of hope..

As for Cindy, I believe that she will cover for her daughter because she knows she already lost Caylee and doesn't want to lose her daughter. NO parent wants to admit that their child would be capable of such a thing...

As for Casey, I hope that the State of Florida is going to do something about this without a body, because I do not believe a body will ever be found...Casey had a month to dispose of the body and I do believe that she was capable of planning the disposal real good, that is why she displays that smirk on her face, she is quite sure of herself.


I hope that justice prevails and Casey gets what she deserves like Susan Smith....THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT AS I STATED BEFORE..

Barb: you said everything I was thinking..

[commonguymd]

http://www.wftv.com/video/17408124/index.html

Video of the search this am.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]

I think he already reveled his shocker...that Lee is Caylee's Dad :rolleyes: I don't think so....but what do I know lol

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by desmom
I see LE made an early morning visit to the Anthony's and removed something from George's car. Someone suggested it was the chocks.

IMO, http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery the sack does not appear to have enough weight to be the chocks. (There are two pics. The sack of evidence is Pic #2)

Did Cindy ever drive George's car? Did Casey ever ask to borrow her dad's car? jmo [/*]

I wonder if they retrieved soil samples?

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by VC2


ITA!! i can't believe how many think george or cindy or both know what happened and were cleaning dead caylee traces from the trunk.

i don't think they have a clue, except down deep know she is dead, and are doing anything they can to believe she is alive.

don't like them but don't see anything sinister in their behavior..in fact i would really wonder at them if they could believe caylee was dead at casey's hands for the first weeks and even now i understand that they will publicly fight for her being alive and even still have that hope If they did accept caylee was dead quickly then they really are sick bc its not normal to think your daughter could kill her granddaughter. Its the worst crime possible and i just don't see it. For us..sure, we aren't emotinally attached to casey and arent her parents

imo [/*]why in the world did George and Cindy run out and check the back yard for "foulplay" before calling the police??

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
they might have found out about new evidence and went and got it right then. my cousin works for the san antonio sheriffs dept and he said they work cases like this 24/7. They have several shifts working it. [/*]

Maybe. Wonder what it could have been?


Caylee:rose:

[jammies]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]


Good thinking. The Anthony's hiring a lawyer right when all these things come down is no coincidence, IMO.

[n/t]

Wheel chocks

http://sierranevadaairstreams.org/owners-guide/living/images/05ap23-dscn3074-bryans-chocks.jpg



I had to look it up too, Katie. :o

:seeya:

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I wonder if they retreived soil samples? [/*]thats exactly what i think they did. :beer:

Good Morning Scampi :rose: Thank you for yesterday. i do feel 110% better today.

[CinTN]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



I don't understand why anyone would think Lee is the father. Some use Caylees name as the reasoning behind it, but if that were true...who would advertise incest by naming the child that way? Come on.

JMO [/*]

It has nothing to do with the name,, IMO they are just to "sweetie" and "honey" on each other for brother and sister..

I dunno its just a weird thought to go with a even weirder situation..


:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


I agree, the laptop is actually Cindy's... She stated as much, although Casey had use of it. I'll bet not only was chloroform searched on that laptop, I'll bet it was purchased and paid for by a credit card in Cindy's name. Hence the hiring of a criminal defense attorney.

Also, the very fact that they are determined to keep the father of Caylee a secret is very suspect. Casey was a thief, always looking for free buck, no way, no how did she just opt to not go after the father of her baby for child support. If in fact he was indeed dead, Caylee would qualify to receive SS benefits. There is a very good reason that the father of Caylee has remained taboo, it is someone they don't want the public to know about, or Casey was such a tramp, even back in 2004, that she doesn't know who the father is. I can't decide which one I lean towards more. [/*]

I don't read much at all into the fact that Casey didn't opt for child support. There are reasons not to in some circumstances. Not speaking for her, but I have some personal knowledge of that I won't go into. Suffice to say that sometimes a single mother opts not to go after the father for paternity testing and financial support for good reason. Just throwing that out there. I always thought in this case that whoever Caylee's father is, is irrelevant anyway.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


Maybe. Wonder what it could have been?


Caylee:rose: [/*]i think soil samples.

[st777jo]

Originally posted by threesnugbugs
As for not identifying a father, I believe that they just didn't want to have to share Caylee with another family and have to work through any visitation or custody issues. Keeping control over the Anthony family and any of its members was more of an issue. [/*]

Thats what I thought weeks ago.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by CinTN


It has nothing to do with the name,, IMO they are just to "sweetie" and "honey" on each other for brother and sister..

I dunno its just a weird thought to go with a even weirder situation..


:shrug: [/*]my brother is 10 years old then myself and sisters and he calls all of us honey and sweetie and ........gossip girls but lets not go there lol

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by n/t
Wheel chocks

http://sierranevadaairstreams.org/owners-guide/living/images/05ap23-dscn3074-bryans-chocks.jpg



I had to look it up too, Katie. :o

:seeya: [/*]

Thanks sweetie :seeya: Looked to me like they are to big for that bag? What do you think?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by threesnugbugs
As for not identifying a father, I believe that they just didn't want to have to share Caylee with another family and have to work through any visitation or custody issues. Keeping control over the Anthony family and any of its members was more of an issue. [/*]

You're getting close.............;)

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by joolz


If Cindy was stupid enough to order chloroform of the internet, there should be a solid paper (well, cyber) trail.

I don't believe Casey knows who the father is.

JMHO as always. [/*]

======================================

On NG last night someone on the show said they ordered it online and only a credit card was acceptable as payment for it.

I doubt if Casey had her OWN CC, so she most likely used Cindy's card imo.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by n/t
Wheel chocks

http://sierranevadaairstreams.org/owners-guide/living/images/05ap23-dscn3074-bryans-chocks.jpg



I had to look it up too, Katie. :o

:seeya: [/*]

Then that's definitely NOT what is in that bag.

My first guess is a gun.

My second guess is a stack of cash (ala Alex Kelly) to aid in some sort of escape for Casey.

[Armchairdet]

I have been thinking about Casey saying she did not call LE right away because she had seen where it turns out bad.

Now she was speaking of a kidnapping when she said that, or that is what her story was.

But I have seen where parents are charged in the accidental deaths of their children.

So jump foreward to the half truths or however Cindy explained Casey's lies.

If that is the case, that Casey tells half truths, perhaps she was afraid to talk to LE. But not because of a kidnapping turning out bad, but 'it' turning out bad meaning Casey feared being charged in the death of Caylee.

Eventually the lies got so deep she feels perhaps sticking with her story cannot end up any worse than telling the truth.

If she told her family what really happened and they believe in their hearts an accident happened, perhaps they figure they have already lost Caylee, and do not want to lose Casey as well. After all, if it were an accident, no matter how horrified they are, wouldn't most parents want to forgive their own child?

So maybe Cindy and George are guilty of not telling LE everything they know, maybe not. Lee is not around as much. I don't know why. Maybe he is taking time to deal with what he may know.

[kOOkie1]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I wonder if they retreived soil samples? [/*]

I was wondering that as well..or any dirt from the trunk?..

[day2day]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]

I think Lenny is pointing to a bigger shocker?!:shrug: I don't really know what Cindy is thinking. I can see her saying that Casey stole her identity but didn't harm Caylee-all in one sentence :(

jmo of course

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
my brother is 10 years old then myself and sisters and he calls all of us honey and sweetie and ........gossip girls but lets not go there lol [/*]

LP is the one that insinuated he was Caylee's father. :confused:

[panokatana]

Some things to ponder:
1) Casey really wanted out of her parents house... so, when she found she was pregnant, and if she knew who the father was...it could have been an option for her, had she pressed the fact to the father...MARRY ME. Tone did say she latched on pretty quickly...playing house, as some posters say.

2) The pic of Casey leaving the jail the second time...as a poster mentioned...sure DID look as if she were smiling.

3) FWIW: the short shorts...not important...but if I knew the world was watching, I'd be in sweat pants and a jacket...not parading in short shorts saying..."Look at me!"

4) Just a thought...it seems as if some guy(s) would recognize Casey...do the math...and come in for testing... just to put an end to the speculation. Whether they want to admit it or be in the limelight, or face the fact their child is gone..and they never knew... it's still the honorable thing to do, to bring closure to that part.

5) If indeed that was Casey getting into the car with Lee last night...I mean, if they suspect the house is bugged and needed to talk... there must be a less obvious way to communicate rather than in front of a camera...they did have a "code" so I've read. Bake a note in the brownies? ;) Use the Etch-a-sketch? :)

6) I can almost imagine the women..."ok..which of us is the most dispensable?" "Pop" "Ok..let's pin this on him!"

7) The cheerleader Casey -- was that in high school? (or was she a cheerleader as a young girl - elementary, etc.) Seems with a juvie record, they wouldn't allow her to be on the squad. And popular? I never hear anyone coming forth expressing shock and disbelief. A teacher "WHO would have thought? She was friendly, popular, we all loved her." or "Wow, she was in my Math class and she was just a great person." (so many of the things we hear about truly popular kids that have gone...wrong.) Not even the "She was mean and I hated her, and I'm GLAD she's in jail!"

Just some trivial things...that seem wrong in some way...and if the small things don't add up, why? and what can we expect from the major things?

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2


ITA!! i can't believe how many think george or cindy or both know what happened and were cleaning dead caylee traces from the trunk.

i don't think they have a clue, except down deep know she is dead, and are doing anything they can to believe she is alive.

don't like them but don't see anything sinister in their behavior..in fact i would really wonder at them if they could believe caylee was dead at casey's hands for the first weeks and even now i understand that they will publicly fight for her being alive and even still have that hope If they did accept caylee was dead quickly then they really are sick bc its not normal to think your daughter could kill her granddaughter. Its the worst crime possible and i just don't see it. For us..sure, we aren't emotinally attached to casey and arent her parents

imo [/*]

ITA!!!!!! :beer:

[hamebone]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
why in the world did George and Cindy run out and check the back yard for "foulplay" before calling the police?? [/*]

I would love to know the answer to that.

So many odd things that dont fit into their side of the story.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
my brother is 10 years old then myself and sisters and he calls all of us honey and sweetie and ........gossip girls but lets not go there lol [/*]


I believe Lee and Casey use the words honey and sweetie a lot. Not just with one another. Remember Caseys conversation with her friend when Casey was first arrested? She said something along the lines of honey you know i love you or sweetie...IIRC

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by panokatana
Some things to ponder:
1) Casey really wanted out of her parents house... so, when she found she was pregnant, and if she knew who the father was...it could have been an option for her, had she pressed the fact to the father...MARRY ME. Tone did say she latched on pretty quickly...playing house, as some posters say.

2) The pic of Casey leaving the jail the second time...as a poster mentioned...sure DID look as if she were smiling.

3) FWIW: the short shorts...not important...but if I knew the world was watching, I'd be in sweat pants and a jacket...not parading in short shorts saying..."Look at me!"

4) Just a thought...it seems as if some guy(s) would recognize Casey...do the math...and come in for testing... just to put an end to the speculation. Whether they want to admit it or be in the limelight, or face the fact their child is gone..and they never knew... it's still the honorable thing to do, to bring closure to that part.

5) If indeed that was Casey getting into the car with Lee last night...I mean, if they suspect the house is bugged and needed to talk... there must be a less obvious way to communicate rather than in front of a camera...they did have a "code" so I've read. Bake a note in the brownies? ;) Use the Etch-a-sketch? :)

6) I can almost imagine the women..."ok..which of us is the most dispensable?" "Pop" "Ok..let's pin this on him!"

7) The cheerleader Casey -- was that in high school? (or was she a cheerleader as a young girl - elementary, etc.) Seems with a juvie record, they wouldn't allow her to be on the squad. And popular? I never hear anyone coming forth expressing shock and disbelief. A teacher "WHO would have thought? She was friendly, popular, we all loved her." or "Wow, she was in my Math class and she was just a great person." (so many of the things we hear about truly popular kids that have gone...wrong.) Not even the "She was mean and I hated her, and I'm GLAD she's in jail!"

Just some trivial things...that seem wrong in some way...and if the small things don't add up, why? and what can we expect from the major things?

JMO [/*]

Re #7, where have we heard about a juvie record other than one poster on here?

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
my brother is 10 years old then myself and sisters and he calls all of us honey and sweetie and ........gossip girls but lets not go there lol [/*]

I also think it is a Southern thang :D

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by n/t
Wheel chocks

http://sierranevadaairstreams.org/owners-guide/living/images/05ap23-dscn3074-bryans-chocks.jpg



I had to look it up too, Katie. :o

:seeya: [/*]

IMO, we had something that blocked tires years ago that was about maybe...the size of a small two slice toaster but rubber and slanted (and no slots :biggrin: )

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by anyonesguess


LP is the one that insinuated he was Caylee's father. :confused: [/*]i only believe about 10% of what LP says......

[joolz]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


yes (with a court order) and yes [/*]

TY:)

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


I also think it is a Southern thang :D [/*]how did yall figure out i was from the south?? :lol:

[JHP]

Originally posted by CinTN


It has nothing to do with the name,, IMO they are just to "sweetie" and "honey" on each other for brother and sister..

I dunno its just a weird thought to go with a even weirder situation..


:shrug: [/*]

I suspect Cindy is the one that named Caylee. After the 2 most perfect children in the world.

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Then that's definitely NOT what is in that bag.

My first guess is a gun.

My second guess is a stack of cash (ala Alex Kelly) to aid in some sort of escape for Casey. [/*]

I agree that's not what's in the bag. No way. And your guesses are plausible ones.

[OneUp]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


This is exactly why I don't believe a word Padilla says. (Although I think his heart is in the right place...if that makes sense.) As far as the other quote, about him saying that Casey told Lee what happened, and Lee told Cindy.....HUGE guess on his part. He has no way of knowing. But yet if he says it on national TV, people who don't know any better start believing he has "inside info" and he's telling the truth. He's throwing it out there IN CASE it might be true, then he'll come off as a hero who predicted what happened if it comes to light that way. :rolleyes: [/*]I'd agree that he is prob. making an educated guess. That is the "chain" followed by the nanny kidnapper story during the series of 911 calls. Casey told Lee who then told Cindy...If I had to guess I'd bet that was a typical scenario in how information got from Casey to Cindy.
JMO.

[Destini]

Originally posted by commonguymd
http://www.wftv.com/video/17408124/index.html

Video of the search this am. [/*]

At the end of that video they are showing the fight that broke out last night between protesters and neighbors. The police said if this continues (fighting) they will have no choice but to arrest the protesters. Sounds like things may get worse.

If they feel like they have to protest, I just wish they would do it peacefully. This isn't Kent State.

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]


===========================

That would all be traceable by an ISP if she ordered online imo.

It has been stated that Cindy paid off all of the CC's with her 401K after Casey ran them up, so why if someone stole her identity would she pay off the cards? If she is backtracking trying to cover it up, it would seem she would then have to proscecute the person that was stealing from her......i.e. Casey.

Besides, what did the person who stole her identity do? Break in her home, do a search for chloroform on their , order it using Cindy's CC? Surely Cindy realizes how any backtracking at this point would be futile imo. :shrug:

[panokatana]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Re #7, where have we heard about a juvie record other than one poster on here? [/*]

I read it a long time ago, not recently and actually posted a similar question..how was she a cheerleader with a record? I can look back at my old posts to figure out where I read it, but it was mentioned quite a while back.

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Miami Mania


For the same reason they tried to clean up the trunk of Casey's car before LE got there! [/*]

If they cleaned the trunk like some are speculating, would there still be dirt in it?

[CinTN]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Then that's definitely NOT what is in that bag.

My first guess is a gun.

My second guess is a stack of cash (ala Alex Kelly) to aid in some sort of escape for Casey. [/*]

I dont think those are the ones they would use on the cars, they do make smaller wedge type ones,, those in the pic are for a big truck type ..

[joolz]

Originally posted by threesnugbugs
As for not identifying a father, I believe that they just didn't want to have to share Caylee with another family and have to work through any visitation or custody issues. Keeping control over the Anthony family and any of its members was more of an issue. [/*]

That's EXACTLY what I think.

[jammies]

Wonder if the news channels had a heads up on the search last night? Or do they camp out all night on the sidewalk?

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
thats exactly what i think they did. :beer:

Good Morning Scampi :rose: Thank you for yesterday. i do feel 110% better today. [/*]

I'm glad my friend. For your wonderful son - :patriot:

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by jammies



Good thinking. The Anthony's hiring a lawyer right when all these things come down is no coincidence, IMO. [/*]I agree. Something is going on.

Anyone know for sure if they had a search warrant?

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
how did yall figure out i was from the south?? :lol: [/*]

I can hear your twang in your posts :D

I wonder how panicked the Anthony's were when the doorbell rang at 3 am???

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom


Maybe. Wonder what it could have been?


Caylee:rose: [/*]


Maybe a bottle of chloroform?

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by Miami Mania


For the same reason they tried to clean up the trunk of Casey's car before LE got there! [/*]i THINK they know SOMETHING :(

[n/t]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


Thanks sweetie :seeya: Looked to me like they are to big for that bag? What do you think? [/*]

I guess it all depends on what kind of chocks he had. There are different sizes and types. Just like the gas cans. Remember we thought it wasn't gas cans but it was.

Soil could be another guess like Scampi said. :shrug:

[CinTN]

Originally posted by ilovemylife



I believe Lee and Casey use the words honey and sweetie a lot. Not just with one another. Remember Caseys conversation with her friend when Casey was first arrested? She said something along the lines of honey you know i love you or sweetie...IIRC [/*]

true,,

I just have a sneeky feeling thats all,, but oh well its irrelevant right now ..

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Destini


At the end of that video they are showing the fight that broke out last night between protesters and neighbors. The police said if this continues (fighting) they will have no choice but to arrest the protesters. Sounds like things may get worse.

If they feel like they have to protest, I just wish they would do it peacefully. This isn't Kent State. [/*]

I think they should be home in bed resting up to go help Tim search for Caylee :cuss:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


the way "they" (I know :rolleyes: ) say it went down is Casey didn't fess up to Caylee being missing for a month until right before that 3rd 911 call. I don't know...sounded real on Cindy's part to me. Guess we will just have to wait and see! [/*]

but think about it 'logically' although that may not apply to this family lol

naw, seriously...

okay, they say casey left with caylee 31 days ago, let's just pretend these days matched with dates given, even though they don't...

but let's pretend they do, and lets pretend there had been no contact for that month, no knowledge of what's going on or where either were...

as parents, they would have already been worried to death just by the 'not knowing', that's a natural reaction. sure, they could overlook casey's unknown whereabouts due to her 'adult' status and past behaviour, but she had with her their granddaughter...2 yrs. old, that they had raised...

this alone should have put them into panic mode before '31 days' and they should have took action before then.

but let's back up and say all these 'text' and things are true, that they had some contact with casey and forever reason believe caylee was always preoccupied during these times.

but then they find out about the car...
despite the smell of the car, which both should have been aware of due to their careers...despite that...

the fact that they found out the car had been abandoned since june 27th should have struck pure terror in them, the smell should have only enlightened that...

but...

she then goes out on a search for them...

she ends up finding casey, by the help of a friend...at her bf's house.

they have had hours now....hours...

where was caylee

this beyond fright should have been esculating beyond normal functioning abilities...
but it's apparent it did not, even in the first two 911 calls, there is no mention of caylee still missing

this just doesn't make sense to me

and the last 911 call again, the tone, behavior, language and 'timing' just doesn't add up


imo

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


If they cleaned the trunk like some are speculating, would there still be dirt in it? [/*]Good point. Initially, after the 911 call, I don't think it even dawned on them that LE would confiscate the car. imo

[st777jo]

Some posters on here brought up about Caylee being Lee and Casey's daughter long before LP did. Which I don't believe anyhow. jmo

[CinTN]

Originally posted by JHP


I suspect Cindy is the one that named Caylee. After the 2 most perfect children in the world.

JMO [/*]

:lol: barf

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
i only believe about 10% of what LP says...... [/*]

Same here.

[nachomama]

Originally posted by 5boxersmom
Wonder why 3 a.m.? What couldn't wait til morning? Or are they messing with them?


What is that thing Cindy carries? An alarm of some kind I heard on tv. Does she use so she can't hear the reporters because she can't keep her mouth shut?

jmo

Caylee:rose: [/*]

It is one of those things like the old lady wears and says.
"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up " BUT...
They changed it for Cindy.. to

"HELP, I'M TALKING..... AND I CAN"T SHUT UP !!!"

[joolz]

Originally posted by anyonesguess
Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]


===========================

That would all be traceable by an ISP if she ordered online imo.

It has been stated that Cindy paid off all of the CC's with her 401K after Casey ran them up, so why if someone stole her identity would she pay off the cards? If she is backtracking trying to cover it up, it would seem she would then have to proscecute the person that was stealing from her......i.e. Casey.

Besides, what did the person who stole her identity do? Break in her home, do a search for chloroform on their , order it using Cindy's CC? Surely Cindy realizes how any backtracking at this point would be futile imo. :shrug: [/*]

No, no - you are using normal logic. Not the special Anthony logic. See, Zenaida hyphen forced Casey to steal the card and give it to her, then charged upa storm - including the chloroform. Then she threatened to harm Caylee (or Casy or Cindy or Sam or George) if Cindy failed to pay the bill and agreed not to press charges. See?

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by n/t


I guess it all depends on what kind of chocks he had. There are different sizes and types. Just like the gas cans. Remember we thought it wasn't gas cans but it was.

Soil could be another guess like Scampi said. :shrug: [/*]

you are right...some are very small

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/NTESearch?storeId=6970&N=0&Ntk=All&Ntt=chocks&Nty=1&D=chocks&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchallpartial

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


I can hear your twang in your posts :D

I wonder how panicked the Anthony's were when the doorbell rang at 3 am??? [/*]ok ok i do have a twang, i can admit it and i'm very much a southern bell girl :P


i bet cindy almost pee'd her panties lol.

all jokes aside though, i think they know SOMETHING. not sure they know everything but it's obvious they are all hiding stuff.


and did LP say last night George is back at work?

[beckyj]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


I agree, the laptop is actually Cindy's... She stated as much, although Casey had use of it. I'll bet not only was chloroform searched on that laptop, I'll bet it was purchased and paid for by a credit card in Cindy's name. Hence the hiring of a criminal defense attorney.

Also, the very fact that they are determined to keep the father of Caylee a secret is very suspect. Casey was a thief, always looking for free buck, no way, no how did she just opt to not go after the father of her baby for child support. If in fact he was indeed dead, Caylee would qualify to receive SS benefits. There is a very good reason that the father of Caylee has remained taboo, it is someone they don't want the public to know about, or Casey was such a tramp, even back in 2004, that she doesn't know who the father is. I can't decide which one I lean towards more. [/*]

I thought the same thing. She would want the SS benefits. It's hard for me to believe though that someone hasn't come out of the woodwork. It seems like whoever she slept with back then would be seeing this and wondering at the very least. JMO

[Destini]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


I think they should be home in bed resting up to go help Tim search for Caylee :cuss: [/*]

Me too .... that's what I'd be doing if I was there. I did notice that the majority of the protesters are very young. Probably just something to do on a Friday night in Orlando, Florida .... wonder if their parents know.

[anyonesguess]

Originally posted by joolz


No, no - you are using normal logic. Not the special Anthony logic. See, Zenaida hyphen forced Casey to steal the card and give it to her, then charged upa storm - including the chloroform. Then she threatened to harm Caylee (or Casy or Cindy or Sam or George) if Cindy failed to pay the bill and agreed not to press charges. See? [/*]


:eek:

Actually I CAN see Cindy cooking up that story.

[AMS]

Originally posted by n/t
Wheel chocks

http://sierranevadaairstreams.org/owners-guide/living/images/05ap23-dscn3074-bryans-chocks.jpg



I had to look it up too, Katie. :o

:seeya: [/*]


Thanks. I didn't know what they looked like either. They look too big to be the evidence in the bag they were carrying in the photo linked up thread.

[hamebone]

I wonder why LE did not serve a search warrant for the anthony's home and sheds...if they believe that someone might have ordered chloroform?

Why leak it to the media...that gives the family a chance to look around for it and get rid of it...maybe that was what was in GA's wheel well a used bottle of chloroform.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by panokatana


I read it a long time ago, not recently and actually posted a similar question..how was she a cheerleader with a record? I can look back at my old posts to figure out where I read it, but it was mentioned quite a while back. [/*]

The ONLY place I read it was on here. A poster has someone in the family with some "inside info." That's always suspect to me. Sorry. -:shrug:

[5boxersmom]

Originally posted by GrannyB



Maybe a bottle of chloroform? [/*]


:eek:

[CinTN]

Originally posted by nachomama


It is one of those things like the old lady wears and says.
"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up " BUT...
They changed it for Cindy.. to

"HELP, I'M TALKING..... AND I CAN"T SHUT UP !!!" [/*]


ROFLMAO :lol:

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by GrannyB




I don't see how we can believe anything any of them say. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the story George told never happened at all. [/*]

which one? june 16th or june 24th story....i don't believe either of them...imo

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


but think about it 'logically' although that may not apply to this family lol

naw, seriously...

okay, they say casey left with caylee 31 days ago, let's just pretend these days matched with dates given, even though they don't...

but let's pretend they do, and lets pretend there had been no contact for that month, no knowledge of what's going on or where either were...

as parents, they would have already been worried to death just by the 'not knowing', that's a natural reaction. sure, they could overlook casey's unknown whereabouts due to her 'adult' status and past behaviour, but she had with her their granddaughter...2 yrs. old, that they had raised...

this alone should have put them into panic mode before '31 days' and they should have took action before then.

but let's back up and say all these 'text' and things are true, that they had some contact with casey and forever reason believe caylee was always preoccupied during these times.

but then they find out about the car...
despite the smell of the car, which both should have been aware of due to their careers...despite that...

the fact that they found out the car had been abandoned since june 27th should have struck pure terror in them, the smell should have only enlightened that...

but...

she then goes out on a search for them...

she ends up finding casey, by the help of a friend...at her bf's house.

they have had hours now....hours...

where was caylee

this beyond fright should have been esculating beyond normal functioning abilities...
but it's apparent it did not, even in the first two 911 calls, there is no mention of caylee still missing

this just doesn't make sense to me

and the last 911 call again, the tone, behavior, language and 'timing' just doesn't add up


imo [/*]

I can't argue with you Winnie...you make some great points. Maybe, as a grandma myself, I just don't want to believe that they could do that :(

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by nachomama


It is one of those things like the old lady wears and says.
"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up " BUT...
They changed it for Cindy.. to

"HELP, I'M TALKING..... AND I CAN"T SHUT UP !!!" [/*]ohhhhhh no you didn't lol, you just had to go THERE :lol:


why have a PR person if you can't shut up and can't stop going on tv. heck when she's on tv she takes him with her to just sit there and look ugly lol

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


which one? june 16th or june 24th story....i don't believe either of them...imo [/*]


LOL I was talking about the 24th but I don't believe the 16th either.

[Snuggles]

wow! Good morning all, sounds like it was a dramatic night!!! I wonder what they got? I agree that it may have been to shake up the family, but I bet there was something interesting there too!

[Armchairdet]

I don't know if this was brought up already.

But wouldn't chloroform be the type of package that would need to be signed for? I am just wondering. Doesn't seem like the type of thing you would want UPS to just leave on the porch.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by anyonesguess
Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Could the chloroform be the shocker that LP hinted at earlier in the week? Perhaps when they went to tell the family about the body farm results, they also revealed the chloroform findings. If so, at that time, LP was still in the picture, his team were still in the home. Also, was it after the release of the results that Cindy made the complaint officially that someone stole her identity? Maybe Cindy already knew that chloroform was purchased with her credit card (Casey's doing), but she filed stolen identity to cover up her name and Casey's regarding this purchase? [/*]


===========================

That would all be traceable by an ISP if she ordered online imo.

It has been stated that Cindy paid off all of the CC's with her 401K after Casey ran them up, so why if someone stole her identity would she pay off the cards? If she is backtracking trying to cover it up, it would seem she would then have to proscecute the person that was stealing from her......i.e. Casey.
imo <snip> [/*]The report came from Rick, Cindy's brother, on a message board. He said that Cindy "dipped into" her 401K to pay back the theft from the GGP's checking account; nothing was said about paying off the charge card. imo

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


I hope you are feeling better today {{{HUG}}}

Did you read that LE went to C & G's this morn at 3 am :eek:

took something from George's car [/*]



:eek:

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by Armchairdet
I don't know if this was brought up already.

But wouldn't chloroform be the type of package that would need to be signed for? I am just wondering. Doesn't seem like the type of thing you would want UPS to just leave on the porch.

IMO [/*]

Well Casey had plenty of time on her hands:shrug:

[panokatana]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


The ONLY place I read it was on here. A poster has someone in the family with some "inside info." That's always suspect to me. Sorry. -:shrug: [/*]

That's ok :) ...as I said...jmo...and there are six other trivial things to ponder. Who knows what to believe, whether we hear it from the family, the media or relatives?... The whole thing...is just so...illogical...odd...etc.

jmo

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
The report came from Rick, Cindy's brother, on a message board. He said that Cindy "dipped into" her 401K to pay back the theft from the GGP's checking account; nothing was said about paying off the charge card. imo [/*]

How else would Cindy have a stolen identity case if it wasn't stolen CC?

[nc1948]

Originally posted by day2day


I hope there is. Of course if the purchase was used with CA's credit card..she will say Casey stole it.
I still am not sure about Caylee's Daddy..i'm still workin on that ..
i do wonder why she didn't narrow it down..to collect some cash?!


always jmo [/*]

Cindy has reported her ID has been stolen. I think that was to cover any charges on her cc. Notice that anytime more info is released Cindy reacts. with another explanation of why.

[MommyTuTu]

As to why LE went in at 3 AM this morning....

On the 20/20 special last night a guy was talking about why LE let her lead them on a fantasy trip (my words not theirs) to Universal Studios when they already knew she didn't work there and the response from 20/20's "expert" (sorry don't know who it was) was that they did it to put stress on her because they thought the more stress she is under the more likely to tell the truth. I think that would ring true for why they showed up at 3 this morning.

OT but could you imagine the shock on momster's face when LE showed up at that hour!

JMOO

[GrannyB]

Originally posted by nc1948


Cindy has reported her ID has been stolen. I think that was to cover any charges on her cc. Notice that anytime more info is released Cindy reacts. with another explanation of why. [/*]


I can't wait to hear her tell us why LE was at her house at 3am.

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by Snuggles


Well Casey had plenty of time on her hands:shrug: [/*]


Correct, but it gives an actual delivery date and time. Ordering it is one thing, but a person could even say they never got it. That is unless it was signed for. So you know who received it, and when.

IMO

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by nc1948


Cindy has reported her ID has been stolen. I think that was to cover any charges on her cc. Notice that anytime more info is released Cindy reacts. with another explanation of why. [/*]

It is very interesting that she seems to have an excuse or reason for everything that is found, happens, etc..

[Nellie]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I don't read much at all into the fact that Casey didn't opt for child support. There are reasons not to in some circumstances. Not speaking for her, but I have some personal knowledge of that I won't go into. Suffice to say that sometimes a single mother opts not to go after the father for paternity testing and financial support for good reason. Just throwing that out there. I always thought in this case that whoever Caylee's father is, is irrelevant anyway. [/*]

I totally agree with you here and have personal experience too.
Sometimes it's not all about money when you're looking at the "big picture" of a no-life being in a child's life forevermore and just complicating their lives. When a person doesn't want to be a father sometimes it's better to cut off from him completely rather than have him complicating your life and the child's life for $$$. It's just not worth it. So, sometimes someone will choose NOT to name a father on the birth certificate or go after child support for good reasons.

And honestly, I agree....it's all irrelevant in the dissappearance of Caylee.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Snuggles


Well Casey had plenty of time on her hands:shrug: [/*]

yep...and the only one home during the day I believe

[SandyO]

When do you think Cindy and George first realized Casey didn't really have a job at all? It seemed to me that George was fully believing Casey went off to her job each day......but when did they learn the truth?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Nellie


I totally agree with you here and have personal experience too.
Sometimes it's not all about money when you're looking at the "big picture" of a no-life being in a child's life forevermore and just complicating their lives. When a person doesn't want to be a father sometimes it's better to cut off from him completely rather than have him complicating your life and the child's life for $$$. It's just not worth it. So, sometimes someone will choose NOT to name a father on the birth certificate or go after child support for good reasons.

And honestly, I agree....it's all irrelevant in the dissappearance of Caylee. [/*]

:rose: Oh boy. Yes, you KNOW.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by n/t


I guess it all depends on what kind of chocks he had. There are different sizes and types. Just like the gas cans. Remember we thought it wasn't gas cans but it was.

Soil could be another guess like Scampi said. :shrug: [/*]Or the missing blackjack. imo

[VC2]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
why in the world did George and Cindy run out and check the back yard for "foulplay" before calling the police?? [/*]

fear, "what if", anything to put that possibility out of their heads and prove it wrong.

I am not saying it did not cross their mind an accident happened and casey covered it up but that it did not stay there especially once they found nothing.

You know when you have this awful fear something has happened - can be a bump in the night - and you "know" you are being crazy but go to check anyway? It normally is not that you truly believe someone broke in, or whatever. You go to check because you don't and need to reassure yourself.

[Destini]

Originally posted by GrannyB



I can't wait to hear her tell us why LE was at her house at 3am. [/*]

She'll probably say they called LE to come get the chocks to get Zenaida's prints off them. You know, Zenaida was balancing the tires for Casey before she took Caylee. :rolleyes:

[n/t]

Originally posted by Armchairdet
I don't know if this was brought up already.

But wouldn't chloroform be the type of package that would need to be signed for? I am just wondering. Doesn't seem like the type of thing you would want UPS to just leave on the porch.

IMO [/*]
I wonder what address she gave. I don't think UPS or FedEx delivers to a PO Box? Can she have picked up the package at the UPS store or FedEx depot? :shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Nellie


I totally agree with you here and have personal experience too.
Sometimes it's not all about money when you're looking at the "big picture" of a no-life being in a child's life forevermore and just complicating their lives. When a person doesn't want to be a father sometimes it's better to cut off from him completely rather than have him complicating your life and the child's life for $$$. It's just not worth it. So, sometimes someone will choose NOT to name a father on the birth certificate or go after child support for good reasons.

And honestly, I agree....it's all irrelevant in the dissappearance of Caylee. [/*]

I agree!

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by GrannyB



I can't wait to hear her tell us why LE was at her house at 3am. [/*]She's not talking any more. She's lawyered up now. imo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by CinTN


I dont think those are the ones they would use on the cars, they do make smaller wedge type ones,, those in the pic are for a big truck type .. [/*]

I still don't think they were there at 3 a.m. looking for chocks.

Not after all this time.

IMO, this is something new.

[jammies]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by n/t

I wonder what address she gave. I don't think UPS or FedEx delivers to a PO Box? Can she have picked up the package at the UPS store or FedEx depot? :shrug: [/*]

yes...she could have

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


I can't argue with you Winnie...you make some great points. Maybe, as a grandma myself, I just don't want to believe that they could do that :( [/*]

oh i agree with you there, i don't want to believe any of these things exist...

i'm not a grandmother, i am a mom

and i hate to admit this, but i did alot of the same things casey did---although i was not a mom at the time...

but well
i have the boots
heck, i have the sunfire
i took off for a 'month' when i ended up living with my mom when i was that age because of the 'control' issues driving me nuts
i partied my weekends away, no drugs, but no stranger to a toilet hugging monday
didn't steal, but did clean out my entire savings
i knew a short skirt could get me a night of free drinks...
and btw, i was a cheerleader in hs too...that got into 'some trouble', my coach nor the school was ever aware of this, so it didn't effect it, for those questioning that.

etc. etc.

so as much as i hate to admit it, some things i can actually relate to casey on

but now as a mom...from the moment i became a mom the first time, my life changed...
and her actions just don't scream 'mother of the year' to me.

attempting to look at it from the grandparents view, with the help of looking at it through my own mother's eyes, as well as her experiences with me in the past...
their behavior just don't add up to me either.

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Or the missing blackjack. imo [/*]

You know, I hadn't thought of that, but what a great place to hide something, and somewhere that Casey or someone else in the family assumed would not be checked... hmm, an interesting thought....

[jammies]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Or the missing blackjack. imo [/*]



check the link I just gave for that pic. Detective looks like she is holding a phone and a teddy bear.

[concernedmom]

Where did you all hear that Casey went out and sit in Lees car? When did this happen? Were the protesters there?
Sorry. Just got up.:o

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by jammies
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely. [/*]

impossible for me to say what that is :shrug:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by AMS


The hiring of the attorney is what did it for me. They know what happened. [/*]

I cant dismiss that either and now if I am reading correctly the police showed up at the Anthony home and removed evidence from George's car.

Had they been forewarned that things are taking a different turn in the investigation ?:confused:

imoo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Destini


She'll probably say they called LE to come get the chocks to get Zenaida's prints off them. You know, Zenaida was balancing the tires for Casey before she took Caylee. :rolleyes: [/*]

Dang, why can't I find anybody like Zanny?

She takes your kid to the beach, to Disneyworld, to Universal, to the park, keeps them for days/weeks on end and still manages to perform your car maintenance!

Wonder if she does windows?


:shrug:

[ellegna]

Originally posted by threesnugbugs
As for not identifying a father, I believe that they just didn't want to have to share Caylee with another family and have to work through any visitation or custody issues. Keeping control over the Anthony family and any of its members was more of an issue. [/*]


I tend to disagree.
I believe they know exactly who the father is and number of reasons could explain why his identity is so guarded.
Casey may have had an affair with a married man.
Could be someone very close to the family and they wanted to avoid a scandal. Just to name a few.

[nachomama]

Originally posted by nachomama


It is one of those things like the old lady wears and says.
"Help, I've fallen and I can't get up " BUT...
They changed it for Cindy.. to

"HELP, I'M TALKING..... AND I CAN"T SHUT UP !!!" [/*]



Originally posted by CinTN



ROFLMAO :lol: [/*]

or maybe... it's like one of those electronic dog collars that ZAPS
the dog when he starts barking..

Cindy starts yapping .. and it ZAPS the s@#t out of her ...
:D

[Destini]

Originally posted by jammies




check the link I just gave for that pic. Detective looks like she is holding a phone and a teddy bear. [/*]

I thought it looked like a phone, too .... how big is a blackjack??

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by jammies




check the link I just gave for that pic. Detective looks like she is holding a phone and a teddy bear. [/*]

George was LE...if it was incriminating wouldn't he have gotten rid of it???

[aubrey04]

Do we know whether chloroform can break down DNA? I know that bleach can ruin DNA evidence, but what about chloroform?

I am really curious to find out when the chloroform was researched. I am sorry if this has been discussed, but is it possible that George (and Cindy) bought it specifically to degrade the DNA in the trunk? Or maybe George talked to Casey previously about Chloroform being able to destroy DNA evidence (if it does, in fact, degrade DNA?).

George was a homicide detective, right? Shouldn't he know little tidbits like these? I wish we know when it was researched on the laptop!

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
She's not talking any more. She's lawyered up now. imo [/*]

Somehow, I don't think that'll stop her for very long.

Unless he put the fear of God in her.

[nc1948]

Originally posted by Snuggles


It is very interesting that she seems to have an excuse or reason for everything that is found, happens, etc.. [/*]

Yet she has not come up with one for the chlorform seach. Interesting.

[n/t]

Originally posted by jammies
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely. [/*]

hmmm...I see it too. I wonder if it's one of Caylee's toys. How would LE know there was a teddy bear in the car?:confused:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by kitty1182




:eek: [/*]

I left a note for ya at home!!!


:tongue:

[jammies]

Originally posted by Destini


I thought it looked like a phone, too .... how big is a blackjack?? [/*]


http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/samsung_blackjack/index.php?p=*1&g=body&h=dsc05740

[Armchairdet]

I am not sure Casey is even the one that ordered the chloroform. IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by aubrey04

Do we know whether chloroform can break down DNA? I know that bleach can ruin DNA evidence, but what about chloroform?

I am really curious to find out when the chloroform was researched. I am sorry if this has been discussed, but is it possible that George (and Cindy) bought it specifically to degrade the DNA in the trunk? Or maybe George talked to Casey previously about Chloroform being able to destroy DNA evidence (if it does, in fact, degrade DNA?).

George was a homicide detective, right? Shouldn't he know little tidbits like these? I wish we know when it was researched on the laptop! [/*]

we talked about this last night and yes it can breakdown DNA.

George was a detective...but no homicide IMO

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by aubrey04

Do we know whether chloroform can break down DNA? I know that bleach can ruin DNA evidence, but what about chloroform?

I am really curious to find out when the chloroform was researched. I am sorry if this has been discussed, but is it possible that George (and Cindy) bought it specifically to degrade the DNA in the trunk? Or maybe George talked to Casey previously about Chloroform being able to destroy DNA evidence (if it does, in fact, degrade DNA?).

George was a homicide detective, right? Shouldn't he know little tidbits like these? I wish we know when it was researched on the laptop! [/*]

The only thing about the theory of George or Cindy using chloroform to clean.....

They would have had to research, order it, have it delivered, and used it all on the same day. I don't think that's what happened.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by jammies
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely. [/*]I agree. Maybe Caylee's teddy bear. There's also something else in the paper bag. imo

[steffaroob4]

Do you think GA had a gun in his car and LE overheard them talking about via a house bug?

I don't get the hour, unless it was something important.

[n/t]

Why isn't she wearing gloves?? hammer

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


The only thing about the theory of George or Cindy using chloroform to clean.....

They would have had to research, order it, have it delivered, and used it all on the same day. I don't think that's what happened. [/*]I agree with you, cryme.

[day2day]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
how did yall figure out i was from the south?? :lol: [/*]

Could it be the missing halo?! j/k :D

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by MicheleL


Looks like it's in Cindy's hand to me .. :shrug: [/*]

that is not cindy...it is LE :confused:

[panokatana]

Was the baby doll that Casey seems to have in several photos (the one she seems to be the most attached to) found in the Sunfire? I think, even though a child has a lot of dolls or stuffed animals, they tend to favor one...and usually want to take it everywhere.

JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by MicheleL


Looks like it's in Cindy's hand to me .. :shrug: [/*]That's not Cindy.

[n/t]

Originally posted by MicheleL


Looks like it's in Cindy's hand to me .. :shrug: [/*]

Where do you see Cindy? :confused:

[desmom]

IMO, the blow up on June 15 was over Casey ripping off gps nursing home account.

Cindy and Caylee visited the nursing home on June 15, Father's Day. I wondered why Casey didn't go. When the info was released about Casey ripping off the gps account, it explained why she did not visit. IMO, it was because IT was about to hit the fan and she knew it.

I don't think Casey raided the account all at one time. I think she did a little here and a little there. Eventually the account was thin enough the nursing home check did not clear and Cindy was told about it on her visit on June 15. Cindy probably went home and did a little investigating of the gps account and discovered the electronic transfers. Were they direct deposits into Casey's account? Were there on-line purchases from stores Casey was known to shop?

In one of the 911 calls, Cindy said "got affidavits from my banking account". I do not believe it was Cindy's personal account, but the gps account.

Also, Mark Fuhrman said on Greta's August 6 show http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399183,00.html "Well, it's interesting. You know, the grandparents are telling me that on the 16th, when Casey and Caylee are leaving that morning at 12:50".

12:50 in the morning? Fuhrman, must be confused because George said they left at 12:50 in the afternoon. He remembers because he was watching the food channel and he also remembered exactly what they were wearing. I always found George remembering the clothing odd.

I don't think Fuhrman was confused. I think G & C did slip and say she left at 12:50 in the morning and that is why George remembers exactly what they were wearing. Casey was taking Caylee and moving out.

G & C could not let the public know they moved out at 12:50 a.m. That would only throw more suspicion on Casey. It would also hint the close family relationship was not as American pie as they wanted the world to believe. Who packs up a 2 year old during the middle of the night and moves out?

I also believe she left at 12:50 in the morning because of the flurry of phone calls the afternoon of June 16. I have had trouble coming up with a scenario that could happen between the 12:50 p.m. and the 3:00 p.m. flurry of phone calls. I do believe the flurry of unanswered phone calls was when Casey discovered Caylee was in some type of medical distress and she was seeking help. I wish we knew where she was when she made those calls.

jmo

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by panokatana
Was the baby doll that Casey seems to have in several photos (the one she seems to be the most attached to) found in the Sunfire? I think, even though a child has a lot of dolls or stuffed animals, they tend to favor one...and usually want to take it everywhere.

JMO [/*]

IIRC it was at the Anthony's house

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I agree. Maybe Caylee's teddy bear. There's also something else in the paper bag. imo [/*]

It's probably the officers phone, if it were potential evidence, she'd have gloves on.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by panokatana
Was the baby doll that Casey seems to have in several photos (the one she seems to be the most attached to) found in the Sunfire? I think, even though a child has a lot of dolls or stuffed animals, they tend to favor one...and usually want to take it everywhere.

JMO [/*]Yes, it was reportedly in the car. I'm wondering if she went to sleep in the trunk with her teddy bear. imo

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


It's probably the officers phone, if it were potential evidence, she'd have gloves on. [/*]It's not a phone. imo

[Nellie]

Oh my! How would evidence get into another vehicle if they aren't involved?

[JHP]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


The only thing about the theory of George or Cindy using chloroform to clean.....

They would have had to research, order it, have it delivered, and used it all on the same day. I don't think that's what happened. [/*]

Maybe they had a month:shrug: It sure would be nice to know when the reasearch was done. JMO

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by aubrey04

Do we know whether chloroform can break down DNA? I know that bleach can ruin DNA evidence, but what about chloroform?

I am really curious to find out when the chloroform was researched. I am sorry if this has been discussed, but is it possible that George (and Cindy) bought it specifically to degrade the DNA in the trunk? Or maybe George talked to Casey previously about Chloroform being able to destroy DNA evidence (if it does, in fact, degrade DNA?).

George was a homicide detective, right? Shouldn't he know little tidbits like these? I wish we know when it was researched on the laptop! [/*]


yes it can...break down dna

george was a deputy sheriff

cindy a rn...

i tend to lean more with cindy having knowledge of this than george, but no doubt i have a skewed opinion of her just because of the jabber jaws that she has

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
It's not a phone. imo [/*]

What do you think it is Joan? I can't make out what she's holding.

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Yes, it was reportedly in the car. I'm wondering if she went to sleep in the trunk with her teddy bear. imo [/*]

Iwonder if the teddy bear had chloroform poured on it?

Remember all the plush toys George threw away?

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by n/t
Why isn't she wearing gloves?? hammer [/*]Yes, plenty of fodder there for a defense atty, but it was already contaminated from being in George's trunk. imo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by SandyO
When do you think Cindy and George first realized Casey didn't really have a job at all? It seemed to me that George was fully believing Casey went off to her job each day......but when did they learn the truth? [/*]

I think they knew all along she didn't have a job.

After the arrest, they all jumped on the "leaving for work with backpacks" and "Zanny's been consistently babysitting Caylee for the past year and a half" bandwagon. At that point, it all became cover for Casey.

Even in the first call home, Cindy tells Casey that this Zanny person doesn't exist.

JMO

[summer4meplz]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
The report came from Rick, Cindy's brother, on a message board. He said that Cindy "dipped into" her 401K to pay back the theft from the GGP's checking account; nothing was said about paying off the charge card. imo [/*]

hi joan, i was rereading the posts rick made at topix...i had saved it to my favorites, can't believe it's still there...but anyway....rick said the great grandma was able to get the bank to put back the money casey had stolen....i was trying to find exactly what rick said about the 401K but so far, i can't find it....iirc he said she had to take almost $40,000 out of it to cover casey's "indebtedness" my word, i don't remember the exact word he used. rick also said that casey had stolen checks...plural....1 from the nursing home account and he didn't say anything about the other account...i'll keep looking for the 401k quote....and of course, this is only believable if you believe rick is cindy's sister....

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by jammies




check the link I just gave for that pic. Detective looks like she is holding a phone and a teddy bear. [/*]

Wow, never underestimate the eagle eyes of some posters. It does appear to be a teddy bear.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by M.Gundy48


I'm pretty sure LE or JB would have called and given them a heads-up before they came.

I don't think LE wants to do anything, especially at this point, which would appear as if they were deliberately harassing the Anthony's unnecessarily.

LE knows how defense attorney's operate. JB would make a big deal of it at trial to try to gain sympathy from the jury. From what I've seen so far, LE is doing everything by the book. [/*]

except that JB claims no knowledge of Casy's re-arrest last week :shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Armchairdet


Iwonder if the teddy bear had chloroform poured on it?

Remember all the plush toys George threw away? [/*]

::THUD::

[Destini]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


It's probably the officers phone, if it were potential evidence, she'd have gloves on. [/*]

That's true. I really can't imagine George wouldn't have gotten rid of anything potentially evidence if he's trying to protect his daughter.

I asked my husband about wheel chucks. He's always tinkering with our cars. Showed him about how big the bag was, and he said it could very well have the chucks in it. Some people make their own (wooden) and they make metal ones that fold up. They're not very big.

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by jammies
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely. [/*]wow it sure does :eek:

[101Spots]

Originally posted by day2day


Could it be the missing halo?! j/k :D [/*]

Nope. It's Casey Mother-of-the-Year trophy. :D

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by n/t


hmmm...I see it too. I wonder if it's one of Caylee's toys. How would LE know there was a teddy bear in the car?:confused: [/*]

I do see a phone in her hand, but I notice she has no gloves on, so maybe that is her own phone. Wouldn't you think she would have gloves on if touching evidence?

[concernedmom]

Well, at least we know LE is working day & night to solve this case.:D

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


It's probably the officers phone, if it were potential evidence, she'd have gloves on. [/*]I apologize. It does look like a phone in her right hand. I just enlarged the pic. The stuffed animal (imo) is in her left hand.

[Nellie]

Originally posted by Armchairdet


Iwonder if the teddy bear had chloroform poured on it?

Remember all the plush toys George threw away? [/*]

But, if that's the case....why would he keep it around?

And what's this about him throwing plush toys away?
I think those should have been confiscated. Why would he throw them away??? :confused:

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by Armchairdet
I am not sure Casey is even the one that ordered the chloroform. IMO [/*]well noone has said it was ordered. they said it looked up how to USE it

[day2day]

Originally posted by jammies
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-caylee-anthonypics-photos,0,5614814.photogallery



Check out pic #2.

On another board they have noticed what looks like a teddy bear arm or leg in the detectives hand. Look closely. [/*]

Ohhh that isn''t good. :(
Thanks jammies..

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by n/t


hmmm...I see it too. I wonder if it's one of Caylee's toys. How would LE know there was a teddy bear in the car?:confused: [/*]The house is bugged?

[Snuggles]

Originally posted by Armchairdet


Iwonder if the teddy bear had chloroform poured on it?

Remember all the plush toys George threw away? [/*]

Ohhhh, now the thought of that truly breaks my heart!barf

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


The only thing about the theory of George or Cindy using chloroform to clean.....

They would have had to research, order it, have it delivered, and used it all on the same day. I don't think that's what happened. [/*]

Good point... Thanks cry & KKKKKKatie!

[n/t]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I do see a phone in her hand, but I notice she has no gloves on, so maybe that is her own phone. Wouldn't you think she would have gloves on if touching evidence? [/*]

Yes, I was shocked to see she wasn't wearing gloves and posted about it earlier. UGH!! hammer

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by summer4meplz


hi joan, i was rereading the posts rick made at topix...i had saved it to my favorites, can't believe it's still there...but anyway....rick said the great grandma was able to get the bank to put back the money casey had stolen....i was trying to find exactly what rick said about the 401K but so far, i can't find it....iirc he said she had to take almost $40,000 out of it to cover casey's "indebtedness" my word, i don't remember the exact word he used. rick also said that casey had stolen checks...plural....1 from the nursing home account and he didn't say anything about the other account...i'll keep looking for the 401k quote....and of course, this is only believable if you believe rick is cindy's sister.... [/*]

I don't believe Rick is Cindy's sister.

I do believe, however, he is her brother.

:D

(J/K ya!)

But yes, I believe he is her brother. Especially after the check stuff was included in the 400 pages. He was the only source for that until then.

[PolyGraph]

Originally posted by concernedmom
Well, at least we know LE is working day & night to solve this case.:D [/*]

haha I know right this is the first time ive heard of LE doing such a wonderful job! Usually we hear the opposite right? lol

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by Destini


That's true. I really can't imagine George wouldn't have gotten rid of anything potentially evidence if he's trying to protect his daughter.

I asked my husband about wheel chucks. He's always tinkering with our cars. Showed him about how big the bag was, and he said it could very well have the chucks in it. Some people make their own (wooden) and they make metal ones that fold up. They're not very big. [/*]Yes, I saw some in the store yesterday.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
well noone has said it was ordered. they said it looked up how to USE it [/*]

this to me is going to be the big factor...


how and when the search was googled...

was it 'chloroform and death', was it 'chloroform and cleaning', was any type of 'specific' cleaning searched, such as cleaning of blood v. cleaning of pool, was it chloroform and a 'great high'

etc. etc.


none of which has been released

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
It's not a phone. imo [/*]

I don't think so either. Could it be some type of gadget to do a presumptive test? I don't understand the lack of gloves tho.

[CinTN]

Heres another WHAT IF,,

What if the little talk between Lee and Casey lastnight had something to do with the 3 am visit,, Lee might have clued them in on something from the convo..

[n/t]

Originally posted by Nellie


But, if that's the case....why would he keep it around?

And what's this about him throwing plush toys away?
I think those should have been confiscated. Why would he throw them away??? :confused: [/*]

The Anthonys claimed they were gifts given to them for Caylee by people and the plush toys smelled like cigarette smoke. So they threw them away.

[mitzi]

Update from JbellaJ -

Just hung up with Jbella. They are about to be taken to thier search area - was guessing Blanchard park, but wasn't sure. She was interviewed by Local6. Said she has on a straw hat and sunglasses, so look for her. AND she mentioned Insession Message Boards in the interview!!!

OneDarksun and her husband have been out already this morning, and if I heard J right, they had been in a swampy area.

JbellaJ and Ckrdpst got to meet and talk with Tim Miller.

Will give you an update when she calls again later!

Mitzi

[concernedmom]

Ive always thought it was a possibility George found out and helped her bury the body.
Might explain why casey cant break down and tell anything if a family member helped her.

[Armchairdet]

Originally posted by WinnieLeigh7


this to me is going to be the big factor...


how and when the search was googled...

was it 'chloroform and death', was it 'chloroform and cleaning', was any type of 'specific' cleaning searched, such as cleaning of blood v. cleaning of pool, was it chloroform and a 'great high'

etc. etc.


none of which has been released [/*]

Yeah, I meant IF it were ordered I don't know that it was Casey. Someone could have ordered it for another reason. That does not mean someone could not have used it for something else after it was in the home.

Like you, I will wait and see.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by mitzi
Update from JbellaJ -

Just hung up with Jbella. They are about to be taken to thier search area - was guessing Blanchard park, but wasn't sure. She was interviewed by Local6. Said she has on a straw hat and sunglasses, so look for her. AND she mentioned Insession Message Boards in the interview!!!

OneDarksun and her husband have been out already this morning, and if I heard J right, they had been in a swampy area.

JbellaJ and Ckrdpst got to meet and talk with Tim Miller.

Will give you an update when she calls again later!

Mitzi [/*]

Thanks!!!!:beer:

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by n/t


Yes, I was shocked to see she wasn't wearing gloves and posted about it earlier. UGH!! hammer [/*]

It looks like there is already something in that bag, I wonder if she gave the bag for the office to hold, then she removed her gloves, then made notes in her blackberry as to time of evidence collection.