Caylee Anthony late night thread 09/04/08 [Archive] - Page 2

Oregongal

09-04-2008, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by jennyanydots

*respectfully snipped*

Like cindy said maybe someone else put a dead body in that trunk after it was parked at the tow yard!!! YEAH RIGHT
And she says it so sarcastically! So hatefully. So non chalant; as if she really believes this herself. And there in lies the problem.

Yes!!!
As if this could possibly happen, but, that she showed so little caring if it was another dead person.
I would be thinking OMG, there was a dead person there?!?
Crying out for someone to investigate that. Who could this person be? Is there another family missing someone?
To just toss this out there as if another dead PERSON (not body) could have been in there like ummm, just a bag of garbage that somehow ended up in that trunk to me shows a lack of caring I cannot possibly comprehend.

Reenbean

09-04-2008, 11:38 PM

Night kakax! And thanks again for all the links.:)

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by mitzi

Me too! I bet poor Ted has been chompin at the bit waiting for the show to come back on!!!lol [/*]

He is a hoot, isn't he?

Anakerie

09-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Well, time for me to go take some cold medicine (I hate having a summer cold!) and fix a cup of tea before I head off to bed. I'll be lurking a bit tomorrow after I finish my blog duties..

Have a great night, everyone... :seeya:

jammies

09-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by kakax

She is on with Bill Hammer every day from 9-11 and then again at 5-6. I love Megyn too! Bill is easy on the eyes as well.

They will start talking more about this case too. Megyn has a segment called Kelly's court and she gets into some of these hot legal issues. [/*]

I know...I watch her when I am home. I just wish she had her own deal so she could follow cases from beginning to end.

btw, Didn't Kimberly G have her own show on weekends? Fox is so messed up on weekend nights......

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by kakax
G'night everyone! See you all tomorrow, sweet dreams and prayers for Caylee!!

:rose: [/*]

Night :seeya: Praying they find Caylee tomorrow. :rose:

bluwaters

09-04-2008, 11:39 PM

Nancy Grace Sep.4 Casey Anthony out of Jail again_Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxhOAdJArtU

Nancy Grace Sep.4 Casey Anthony out of Jail again_Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9eLln0oPPI

Nancy Grace Sep.4 Casey Anthony out of Jail again_Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2yUHA6TijE

Nancy Grace Sep.4 Casey Anthony out of Jail again_Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD-ktUsRfp8

jammies

09-04-2008, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Well, time for me to go take some cold medicine (I hate having a summer cold!) and fix a cup of tea before I head off to bed. I'll be lurking a bit tomorrow after I finish my blog duties..

Have a great night, everyone... :seeya: [/*]

nite, ana. Feel better!

Amy S.

09-04-2008, 11:40 PM

Could the Anthony's get Casey declared incompetent and get her committed to a mental ward?

That would keep her locked up and out of their house - and it would keep her away from the press.

Possibly, she could get on some meds, so she would even out and become coherent.

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:41 PM

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:43 PM

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer

Night. I don't know what blog ya have but if it's about the case. I'd like a link if you don't mind. [/*]

Here it is: http://anakerie.blogspot.com/

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by bchand

Here it is: http://anakerie.blogspot.com/ [/*]

thanks bchand :seeya:

Did the nightshift/time posters all get banned or did they all just need a good nights sleep? lol

Unperson1984

09-04-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by OneUp
OH YES!!! I for one would love to see it too!
Family court judges, overall don't put up with much crap. The ones I know are very "Judge Judy" in their patience with liars and bad parents. That can be a good thing or a bad thing...in this case it would be a super thing!
Family court is VERY different than criminal court...people like me are invited in as "experts" to give their input. Scary isn't it!?!?!:D
Recently, the family courts have become much more proactive on behalf of the children....one too many abuse cases have ended in tragedy and the pendulem is swinging away from keeping families together no matter the risk.
JMO. [/*]

Not a Family Court, a Civil Court or any other type of Court can deny a person their 5th Amendment Rights.

crazydazy

09-04-2008, 11:48 PM

I tried for 40 minutes to get thru on Nancy Grace with no luck. I wanted to tell her how creeped out I was that every time Baez takes about casey his face lights up. And to ask if she thought he could be the anonymous person that put up the bail money. I mean you have to wonder what they are doing in his office all day with her in her short shorts and bringing sweet treats.
Maybe I'll have better luck Tomorrow... MOO

spiritwolf46

09-04-2008, 11:48 PM

Guys, just got back from a family emergency. Things are good. Is Casey out of jail again?

True2Blues

09-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Talk about people coming out of the woodwork in Casey's Defense of her Civil Rights?!?!? What you're suggesting there would certainly only further inflame that cause!

It's Baez' personal office, good luck to anyone who tries to tell him what to do with that space, for what duration, or with whom. [/*]

You have snipped that post and you are now claiming it says things it never said.

There is no point in discussing this further as you obviously are unable to do so without trying to change my original post.

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer

thanks bchand :seeya:

Did the nightshift/time posters all get banned or did they all just need a good nights sleep? lol [/*]

lol I think the latter. It's been hot and heavy tonight.

Oregongal

09-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Danette44

Hiya Oregongal - haven't see you since NF's case......I wonder if the media actually just camp out at the jail and let her go home and not follow any of them anymore - if she is anything like SP or DP, they will start talking to themself for once! It seems she isn't having a bodyguard around nympre, what's not to say she will slip out the door?? jmoo [/*]

Hi Danette :seeya:
Yep, after I got banned on that forum. Had to bring that up did you? Just kidding, I've missed you. Always loved your posts.
I'm sure the media will be on her every move. But, I wouldn't put it past her to try and slip out the door. Remember Luster? He slipped his monitor and was gone in a flash. I'm hoping LE will have someone hanging around that house to make sure that won't happen.
I can see some nut trying to do her in or her trying to slip out the door without some sort of security posted.
Hopefully someone other than little ol' me has thought of this.

ccat

09-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by ViennaGal
I have to say I am totally flabbergasted by these new turn of events on the bond. WTH would anyone want this girl (I will refrain from using what I'd like) out of jail. LP has put up 50K for anyone that can lead them to a body, not a live little girl as we all wish would happen, but anything about CAYLEE not about CASEY. She is not going to talk anymore now then she did before and she is so primed by her mother, the Queen of Pathological liars, that it isn't going to change. Wake up people. Cops need to search the parents computers to see what they've looked up to protect this girl if that hasn't been done. I'm just sick sick sick. Almost too sick to even read anymore about this bizarre case. I thought Jessica Lunsford's case made me sick, this one just takes all over any I've followed. [/*]

My sentiments exactly. I feel like they're handling Casey with kid gloves and letting her get away with murder.

mitzi

09-04-2008, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer

thanks bchand :seeya:

Did the nightshift/time posters all get banned or did they all just need a good nights sleep? lol [/*]

Probably getting rested up for tomorrow night!! New news, NG and GVS...lol

Safe Travels to you!!

Good night

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Guys, just got back from a family emergency. Things are good. Is Casey out of jail again? [/*]

Hi spiritwolf - glad everything is good re the emergency.

No she's not out yet. One station says maybe tonight, the other says in the morning. That's most likely since she's got to get fitted for her ankle jewelry again.

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by crazydazy
I tried for 40 minutes to get thru on Nancy Grace with no luck. I wanted to tell her how creeped out I was that every time Baez takes about casey his face lights up. And to ask if she thought he could be the anonymous person that put up the bail money. I mean you have to wonder what they are doing in his office all day with her in her short shorts and bringing sweet treats.
Maybe I'll have better luck Tomorrow... MOO [/*]

I believe someone did ask him in an interview today what he and Casey did all the time so long in his office every day. he muttered something bout goin over stuff and this and that but I do not know of any attorney spending that much time with ONE client. EVER :read:

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by mitzi

Probably getting rested up for tomorrow night!! New news, NG and GVS...lol

Safe Travels to you!!

Good night [/*]:seeya: night

spiritwolf46

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by bchand

Hi spiritwolf - glad everything is good re the emergency.

No she's not out yet. One station says maybe tonight, the other says in the morning. That's most likely since she's got to get fitted for her ankle jewelry again. [/*]

Thanks much Bc! Good Lord. WHY would anyone get her out? Was it the Padillas again?

Oregongal

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by jennyanydots
night posties thank you for all the links and the conversation. morbid as this is; LE needs to find out what happened to this child. For this family to try and pull this crap on the public has outraged so many; SS meet your match. KM meet your match; and watch and wait. This is how it's done over here. I hope you are paying attention. Something tells me that Casey is holding out; and maybe her mother insisted she follow HER script.

It fits for me; she controls her every move. since Casey was in jail, this woman has tried to control the media, LE, her atty, her daughters atty; her husband, her son, the public the lawn, the hammer the lights the web cam and everything that comes or happens along the storm that is cindy anthony. that speaks volumes to me. So does the haggling on the price at the tow yard. And the NERVE to try to actually influence this man; as to what he SMELLED and whatnot.

Let me tell you what Cindy Anthony. When you have an olfactory memory; it's implanted in your brain. As yours will be; for the rest of your life. (she's a nurse people, she knows this crap)

Dont be fooled. Dont buy into what will become a huge endeavor; a virtual fund for millions of dollars. Blood Money; all of it!! that jerks my chain, she was THREE YEARS OLD!!!

SEe you tomorrow am going to try to sleep.
Dots [/*]

Good night jennydots! Hope you sleep well.
Pm me sometime.
:seeya:

Rebel Rouzer

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Guys, just got back from a family emergency. Things are good. Is Casey out of jail again? [/*]

Will be by tomorrow according to reports. Glad all is ok

crazydazy

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

oops just noticed a typo... meant when baez TALKS about casey.

luvinlife

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

I know that there are very few fans of Cindy but I just listened to the new lawyer they hired and if he does what he says it sounds like he will act as sort of a spokesperson and legal advisor.

I really think this will help with the Cindy factor, at least I hope it will. If it does I would have to think that JB was at least a factor in what the Anthony's have done in public. JMO

Here is the interview if you missed it.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7363422&version=1&locale=EN-US

spiritwolf46

09-04-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer

Will be by tomorrow according to reports. Glad all is ok [/*]

Thank you Rebel. ;)

ccat

09-04-2008, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by mitzi

Me too! I bet poor Ted has been chompin at the bit waiting for the show to come back on!!!lol [/*]

Me, too! I like Ted. He is so perceptive!

bchand

09-04-2008, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46

Thanks much Bc! Good Lord. WHY would anyone get her out? Was it the Padillas again? [/*]

Nope - two different bond co's went halfies on the $500,000 and their is a myster person/company who put up the $50,000.

spiritwolf46

09-04-2008, 11:59 PM

Anyone there? lol

Did the Padillas post the bond again, or going to post the bond again, and if so, why?

tia

OOOOPS! Sorry BC....just saw your response. Been a long day. Thank you so much! :seeya:

True2Blues

09-04-2008, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by MicheleL

Haven't you noticed, fewer posters respond to her for that very reason? :seeya: [/*]

I know. Usually I don't bother, but she snipped my post and then started ranting about things I didn't say.

I just wanted to make it clear I didn't say those things.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by overflow123
good evening everyone I truely believe they will find caylee where could casey have put this baby? This is the first time that I have been on a board like this, and I am learning I don't really know what happen at first I do see Nancy Grace and really do love her show. Could someone please let me know how this all got started please. I don't have any childrens and would have love to have caylee she is such a blessing, It's a shame that mothers that don't want their childrens things happen to them. And people like myself who want childrens can't have them. Sorry for the long post [/*]

Welcome overflow!
:seeya:
Oh my, to catch you up....I would suggest you go to the links thread and start from the beginning. From watching Nancy Grace (NG) you probably are pretty much up to date. Just keep hanging in with us and you will become familiar with the board.
Yes, it is a shame. It is heartbreaking and we all have fallen in love with Caylee. We want nothing more than for her to be found.
Those of us with children and those of us without. She is a special angel.
Welcome again and we look forward to seeing you post with us.

True2Blues

09-05-2008, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Anyone there? lol

Did the Padillas post the bond again, or going to post the bond again, and if so, why?

tia [/*]

No, it's supposed to be a donor who wishes to remain anonymous.

bchand

09-05-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Anyone there? lol

Did the Padillas post the bond again, or going to post the bond again, and if so, why?

tia [/*]

Look up lol

We also heard from someone watching the local news that there were conflicts of some type going on outside the Anthony home tonight. One group thinks she should stay in jail, the other thinks she should be out.

Rebel Rouzer

09-05-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Anyone there? lol

Did the Padillas post the bond again, or going to post the bond again, and if so, why?

tia [/*]
No it was anonomys this time. We don't know who did it. Just Padilla's theory and rumor. IMO

monicac

09-05-2008, 12:01 AM

Thinking out loud again...

Even if Cindy believed Casey's story that Caylee WAS alive when she "left her with the nanny", and she insists that Caylee could be in danger, why is she so convinced that Caylee is STILL alive? Even if Casey were telling the truth (yea right), it will have been over 6 weeks since Casey was arrested and presumably as long since the 'kidnappers' communicated with her.

Again, I realize I'm stating the obvious, and similar ideas are often expressed on this board, but I was just thinking out loud.

IMO/JMO/MOO

spiritwolf46

09-05-2008, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by bchand

Nope - two different bond co's went halfies on the $500,000 and their is a myster person/company who put up the $50,000. [/*]

Thanks again. Well, I sure do not get it, but whatever to those people. It will be on their backs that they are letting a murderer loose.

What goes around...........

bchand

09-05-2008, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by monicac
Thinking out loud again...

Even if Cindy believed Casey's story that Caylee WAS alive when she "left her with the nanny", and she insists that Caylee could be in danger, why is she so convinced that Caylee is STILL alive? Even if Casey were telling the truth (yea right), it will have been over 6 weeks since Casey was arrested and presumably as long since the 'kidnappers' communicated with her.

Again, I realize I'm stating the obvious, and similar ideas are often expressed on this board, but I was just thinking out loud.

IMO/JMO/MOO [/*]

Evidently she keeps giving them more info (lies) to keep them believing her?

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by desmom
Night All! [/*]

Good night des.
:seeya:

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Unperson1984

Not a Family Court, a Civil Court or any other type of Court can deny a person their 5th Amendment Rights. [/*]HIYA!
Baby is up, so I'm back.
I saw this and wanted to get a link out. I'm no lawyer, but I have seen parents found in contempt for failing to disclose the whereabouts of their children.
The FIRST link I found had the following information relevant to civil and family court proceedings. Make of it what you will ( maybe you can explain it to me???:confused: ). I just know what I have personally witnessed, not why or how it was done. ( If you can explain and have time, please PM me so I will understand. I thought everyone could plead the 5th too...but then I saw parents try and go to the pokey).
This is specific to orders of protection which I have seen applied to parents and children in many abuse and custody cases.

Orders of Protection
Family Offense Proceedings in Supreme and Family Court

http://www.jdbar.com/Articles/order-protection.html

"Supreme and Family Court are both civil courts. That means the victim is the one prosecuting the family offense will decide what evidence to present, will decide whether to settle or have a hearing. There is no right to a jury, and the burden of proof is that of a civil lawsuit, being the preponderance of evidence. There is no right to invoke the 5th amendment right against self incrimination, and should a respondent choose not to testify, the court will draw a negative conclusion as to why there was no testimony."

:read: I'm going to read more so I can figure this thing out.

spiritwolf46

09-05-2008, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by bchand

Look up lol

We also heard from someone watching the local news that there were conflicts of some type going on outside the Anthony home tonight. One group thinks she should stay in jail, the other thinks she should be out. [/*]

I did, sweetie and had to edit my post. Thank you and Rebel so much again. :)

Rebel Rouzer

09-05-2008, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by monicac
Thinking out loud again...

Even if Cindy believed Casey's story that Caylee WAS alive when she "left her with the nanny", and she insists that Caylee could be in danger, why is she so convinced that Caylee is STILL alive? Even if Casey were telling the truth (yea right), it will have been over 6 weeks since Casey was arrested and presumably as long since the 'kidnappers' communicated with her.

Again, I realize I'm stating the obvious, and similar ideas are often expressed on this board, but I was just thinking out loud.

IMO/JMO/MOO [/*]

NONE of her lies make any sense. You will drive yourself into a tizzy trying to comprehend her justifications for her stories. IMO

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Thanks, Rebel. See you tomorrow.

'nite everyone. :seeya: [/*]

Good night Joan, sleep well.
:seeya:

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer

Night JW. :seeya: If all goes well and as planned I'll be packing up to go for a ride tomorrow night to help search over the weekend. Praying everything falls into place. [/*]

:patriot: RR
My prayers will be with you all.
:rose:

Rebel Rouzer

09-05-2008, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce

The only time I can think of is when the attorney thought it would bolster his "celebrity" status. Who know? Maybe he has a book deal in the works? He is not as stupid as some would like to think. think about it - look at how many have profited from others misfortune on the riding on the coatails of others. IMO he has a deal in the works.

As always this is just my opinion.

Its a cluster all the way around I say.

IMO she is all about Casey at this point, she doesnt care about her parents, grandparents, her "friends" or her MISSING CHILD!! its all about what Casey thinks now.

It makes me want to puke in case anyone is interested :rolleyes:

Who among us would ignore what has been presented as facts? Dont argue just to argue.

That said, I hope tomorrow brings a safe search with the volunteers and Tim Miller and little Caylee is found - either way, found.......... That sweet little angel deserves more than any of us here. [/*]

Hedda you make some very good points and tht was a very good post

spiritwolf46

09-05-2008, 12:12 AM

I want to say goodnight to everyone and hope that you all have a wonderful evening.

:rose: To everyone, to those who are going to help search for Caylee, for Tim and his searchers and, of course, for CAYLEE!

Night night all. :seeya:

Rebel Rouzer

09-05-2008, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
I want to say goodnight to everyone and hope that you all have a wonderful evening.

:rose: To everyone, to those who are going to help search for Caylee, for Tim and his searchers and, of course, for CAYLEE!

Night night all. :seeya: [/*]

Night and I pray for all of them too and for her to be found

nc1948

09-05-2008, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Reenbean

Me too!! I haven't been this absorbed since Melskeevy, and I have to say this case just has me sick. I think Casey has Melanie beat in the cold, cruel, heartless, evil *itch category. Hard to do!!
Say hi to GG for me and all the gang from the old thread! [/*]

Susan Polk could take lessons from Cindy and she said there was no holocaust, and that she knew about 911 before it happened.

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:14 AM

Also, regarding the 5th ammendment, I did interviews and family therapy sessions which were turned over to the courts as "testimony". My notes held verbatim statements by parents and children alike regarding abuse and neglact. I never had to issue a Miranda, and they were entered as testimony.
Maybe the Miranda rights were implied given the fact that I was working for the courts? All adults did sign consent forms, but there was no reference to "self incrimination". I am sure no one ever thought I was there for any purpose other than to gather facts and make observations on behalf of the childs best interests.
Family court always seemed very different to me than Criminal court. I'm not sure the exact legal reasons for the different approaches used though.
Law is fascinating, but I don't have the patience to learn much about the complexities.
JMO.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by kakax
G'night everyone! See you all tomorrow, sweet dreams and prayers for Caylee!!

:rose: [/*]

Good night kakax, sleep well. And yes, prayers for Caylee!
:rose:

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:17 AM

bluwaters

09-05-2008, 12:18 AM

I am off to bed. Need to rest up before tomorrow. Yet another Friday looms and no Caylee.

I have had one thought to share with the board. After looking a bit into Mr NeJames' history and reputation, I think that he and Cindy may be well matched, if he can keep her quiet.
I also think that Mark NeJame may make Jose Baez look as cuddly and benign as the Easter Bunny. We may gain a new perspective on Baez once we get to know the big guns!

G'nite!
:seeya:
sleep tight

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:19 AM

nc1948

09-05-2008, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Serenity

Can and does DCF revoke custody parental rights during a missing child's case? Also- how would that work if the state has Caylee when her remains are located? The grandparents would not have rights to Caylee, and Casey would be behind bars.
What would happen to Caylee then? [/*]

Just my opinion, but I think this would suit Cindy fine. When and if the body is found Cindy will Never admit it is Caylee. So I don't think she would agree to take the remains--as George said-that body in the trunk was not my granddaughter.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 12:21 AM

Good Evening!

I have a question and I have been waiting for a time when it's slower here to ask.

Casey received a check from her Grandmother for her birthday. It was then said that Casey took money from her GM's account by uising the routing #.

How can that be done? When I withdraw cash at my bank the slip only requires the account #.

Anyone know how Casey did that with a routing #?

Rebel Rouzer

09-05-2008, 12:21 AM

Night all. I'm going to go ahead and get some rest and hope I hear from those about the trip tomorrow.

:seeya:

Unperson1984

09-05-2008, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
HIYA!
Baby is up, so I'm back.
I saw this and wanted to get a link out. I'm no lawyer, but I have seen parents found in contempt for failing to disclose the whereabouts of their children.
The FIRST link I found had the following information relevant to civil and family court proceedings. Make of it what you will ( maybe you can explain it to me???:confused: ). I just know what I have personally witnessed, not why or how it was done. ( If you can explain and have time, please PM me so I will understand. I thought everyone could plead the 5th too...but then I saw parents try and go to the pokey).
This is specific to orders of protection which I have seen applied to parents and children in many abuse and custody cases.

Orders of Protection
Family Offense Proceedings in Supreme and Family Court

http://www.jdbar.com/Articles/order-protection.html

"Supreme and Family Court are both civil courts. That means the victim is the one prosecuting the family offense will decide what evidence to present, will decide whether to settle or have a hearing. There is no right to a jury, and the burden of proof is that of a civil lawsuit, being the preponderance of evidence. There is no right to invoke the 5th amendment right against self incrimination, and should a respondent choose not to testify, the court will draw a negative conclusion as to why there was no testimony."

:read: I'm going to read more so I can figure this thing out. [/*]

In this case Casey has already been charged in criminal court with crimes and has been named a person of interest in Caylee's disappearance. It’s an unusual set of circumstances.

How old is the baby?

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Guys, just got back from a family emergency. Things are good. Is Casey out of jail again? [/*]

Not yet spirit...hope everything is fine.
:rose:

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:24 AM

why-me

09-05-2008, 12:27 AM

Good night to all that are going to bed...including me.

Good Luck and thank you rebel for going on the search.

nc1948

09-05-2008, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~

And, you somehow think that Casey would care if she lost custody?

Umm, she doesn't seem to have custody now, because either she sold, gave, or murdered Caylee, so nothing would change there. [/*]

Sorry I felt the need to correct you. She misplaced Caylee.

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Unperson1984

In this case Casey has already been charged in criminal court with crimes and has been named a person of interest in Caylee's disappearance. It’s an unusual set of circumstances.

How old is the baby? [/*]TY for the answer! I figured it had to do with the fact that those parents had no criminal charge against them. Also that maybe ther is a difference between civil and Criminal court.
The exact wording of the ammendment reads..."; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself," So I thought pewrhaps it was different as there were no criminal consequences.
It's too late and my brain is geting goofy! BTW, My baby is 18 months, should sleep all night, but NEVER sleeps over 4 hours in a row.
I blame any incoherent posts on sleep deprivation! LOL.
:D

Amy S.

09-05-2008, 12:32 AM

Maybe she simply ordered new checks. I ordered some recently from a flier and all I needed was the account number and the routing number. I changed my address, too.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
HIYA!
Baby is up, so I'm back.
I saw this and wanted to get a link out. I'm no lawyer, but I have seen parents found in contempt for failing to disclose the whereabouts of their children.
The FIRST link I found had the following information relevant to civil and family court proceedings. Make of it what you will ( maybe you can explain it to me???:confused: ). I just know what I have personally witnessed, not why or how it was done. ( If you can explain and have time, please PM me so I will understand. I thought everyone could plead the 5th too...but then I saw parents try and go to the pokey).
This is specific to orders of protection which I have seen applied to parents and children in many abuse and custody cases.

Orders of Protection
Family Offense Proceedings in Supreme and Family Court

http://www.jdbar.com/Articles/order-protection.html

"Supreme and Family Court are both civil courts. That means the victim is the one prosecuting the family offense will decide what evidence to present, will decide whether to settle or have a hearing. There is no right to a jury, and the burden of proof is that of a civil lawsuit, being the preponderance of evidence. There is no right to invoke the 5th amendment right against self incrimination, and should a respondent choose not to testify, the court will draw a negative conclusion as to why there was no testimony."

:read: I'm going to read more so I can figure this thing out. [/*]

Hug that baby tight OneUp for me. Thanks for this link will go and check it out. Or shall I say try and figure it out and weed thru the legalese? Geez, why can't they just put it in plain ordinary words for those of us with no legal background? I would like someone to explain it to me too.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by OneUp

I know it can be used online to make payments. Maybe she purchased a Western Union wire transfer?
IDK for certain...I'd like to know too. It would be nice to know how she did that to protect your own accounts!
:shrug: [/*]

Thank you for your reply. I can't figure that out either.

We were recently the victim of ID theft and had 3 CC's opened in our name with $43,000 in credit issued.
The perp made all charges in Orlando and Ft. Lauderdale for thousands. Some online but most at local stores, restaurants, airlines etc. I got the creeps when I noticed it started on June 6th and the locations.

You can protect your accounts like we did for cash withdrawals. We have a secret PW and double sigs. We both have to sign and we both have to be present with ID.

Still, I always wonder how Casey got CASH with a routing # and account #.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:37 AM

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Hug that baby tight OneUp for me. Thanks for this link will go and check it out. Or shall I say try and figure it out and weed thru the legalese? Geez, why can't they just put it in plain ordinary words for those of us with no legal background? I would like someone to explain it to me too. [/*]LOL, if it were written in plain English, what would we pay the lawyers for? They've got to get back their investment in a Law Degree somehow!
:seeya: Hi all you Lawyers! I'm glad you have to translate for me!
Ty to those with input on how Casey dipped into Greatgrandpas fund with the routing #...I am always wary of where I write physical checks. Can't be too careful nowadays!
JMO.

Carol25

09-05-2008, 12:38 AM

Do you know what other charges DCF could be bringing up?

If she violated a restriction of a bond from earlier, could she be brought back and be restricted from bond at all now? Or would that have been alraedy been placed before her being released this time? Could that be the reason For DCF?

They WILL NOT release her this time on bond due to the violation in corresponding with the 12 year old.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
I want to say goodnight to everyone and hope that you all have a wonderful evening.

:rose: To everyone, to those who are going to help search for Caylee, for Tim and his searchers and, of course, for CAYLEE!

Night night all. :seeya: [/*]

Good night spirit, sleep well.
And ditto...
For Caylee and Tim and his searchers
:rose:

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Thank you for your reply. I can't figure that out either.

We were recently the victim of ID theft and had 3 CC's opened in our name with $43,000 in credit issued.
The perp made all charges in Orlando and Ft. Lauderdale for thousands. Some online but most at local stores, restaurants, airlines etc. I got the creeps when I noticed it started on June 6th and the locations.

You can protect your accounts like we did for cash withdrawals. We have a secret PW and double sigs. We both have to sign and we both have to be present with ID.

Still, I always wonder how Casey got CASH with a routing # and account #. [/*]:eek:
LOL, I would have been wondering if I had funded casey's spree too!
I do think there may be much more in the way of theft charges coming down the track for her. I know some peope don't like to see charges "stacked" ( is that the right term?), but I feel if you did the crime, you should pay. I get really irritated by concurrent sentences too! If you get one year for three charges, your butt should be in three years! there is only one of you to serve! IMO.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 12:43 AM

Protestors Gather At Anthony Home
http://www.wftv.com/news/17397003/detail.html

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Carol25
Do you know what other charges DCF could be bringing up?

If she violated a restriction of a bond from earlier, could she be brought back and be restricted from bond at all now? Or would that have been alraedy been placed before her being released this time? Could that be the reason For DCF?

They WILL NOT release her this time on bond due to the violation in corresponding with the 12 year old. [/*]IDK a thing about how bond works. It makes sense that if it was found that she had violated her bond, it could be revoked by the courts or the terms altered maybe?
I'd ask this tomorrow...I am sure we have some future lawyers here who will be eager to answer.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
:eek:
LOL, I would have been wondering if I had funded casey's spree too!
I do think there may be much more in the way of theft charges coming down the track for her. I know some peope don't like to see charges "stacked" ( is that the right term?), but I feel if you did the crime, you should pay. I get really irritated by concurrent sentences too! If you get one year for three charges, your butt should be in three years! there is only one of you to serve! IMO. [/*]

Oh my! It's bad enough to be a victim but HER victim :chicken:

I did send a copy of the police report and affidavits to Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando LE.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
Also, regarding the 5th ammendment, I did interviews and family therapy sessions which were turned over to the courts as "testimony". My notes held verbatim statements by parents and children alike regarding abuse and neglact. I never had to issue a Miranda, and they were entered as testimony.
Maybe the Miranda rights were implied given the fact that I was working for the courts? All adults did sign consent forms, but there was no reference to "self incrimination". I am sure no one ever thought I was there for any purpose other than to gather facts and make observations on behalf of the childs best interests.
Family court always seemed very different to me than Criminal court. I'm not sure the exact legal reasons for the different approaches used though.
Law is fascinating, but I don't have the patience to learn much about the complexities.
JMO. [/*]

As you say OneUp, the law is facinating and so complex. There are many differences when it comes to criminal, civil and family law.
If I had it all to do over again I would have certainly considered law. As well as psychology.

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:46 AM

I'm trying to lay this girl down and get some rest myself again.
I'd ask those technical questions tomorrow when more posters are up. I know we have several very smart people present that will be able to give accurate and hopefully easy to understand answers to them.
BYE!
:seeya:

OneUp

09-05-2008, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

As you say OneUp, the law is facinating and so complex. There are many differences when it comes to criminal, civil and family law.
If I had it all to do over again I would have certainly considered law. As well as psychology. [/*]Sociology and Psychology are hard in their own way...unlike most sciences, there are no absolutes. I've even had two professors at the same time with totally conflicting views! I def. had to get the "right" paper with the right POV to the proper professor!
I like working with people though, human behavior is a fascinating field of study. I loved it!
If there were more courses available locally, I would take them all.
They have come in handy in this case...the problem is which to choose...hmmmm...so many options!
Good night FOR REAL now!
:D

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by bluwaters
I am off to bed. Need to rest up before tomorrow. Yet another Friday looms and no Caylee.

I have had one thought to share with the board. After looking a bit into Mr NeJames' history and reputation, I think that he and Cindy may be well matched, if he can keep her quiet.
I also think that Mark NeJame may make Jose Baez look as cuddly and benign as the Easter Bunny. We may gain a new perspective on Baez once we get to know the big guns!

G'nite!
:seeya:
sleep tight [/*]

Good night blu, sleep well. I wonder if Mr. MeJames can keep her quiet. It will be interesting to see how this new news fleshes out tomorrow when Casey is released on bond. This weekend looks to me like a 'bombshell' weekend. I agree that Baez is a little fish in a big pond compared to MeJames.
Hold your horses everyone, me thinks this is going to become even a bigger circus than we've seen already.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Rebel Rouzer
Night all. I'm going to go ahead and get some rest and hope I hear from those about the trip tomorrow.

:seeya: [/*]

Good night RR. Hoping the planned trip works out and prayers will be with you all.:rose:

Takotna

09-05-2008, 12:54 AM

The posts upthread about therapy sessions got me thinking. Here's a question for you with better legal minds than mine...

Can therapy be included as a requirement in the bond agreement?

Not that I think Casey would spill any beans - but it would be interesting to have a mental health professional get a first hand look at her.

She's very lucky I'm not the judge! The requirements I'd put on her would make her want to stay in jail! :)

Carol25

09-05-2008, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
IDK a thing about how bond works. It makes sense that if it was found that she had violated her bond, it could be revoked by the courts or the terms altered maybe?
I'd ask this tomorrow...I am sure we have some future lawyers here who will be eager to answer. [/*]
Thank you for your response! :seeya: Goodnight.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae
:seeya:

Playing catch-up as usual.

Went to the link with the petition, but didn't sign.

The reason why is because until Casey is charged for the murder of Caylee she has a right (under the laws we all live by) to post bond.

While this does not mean I feel Casey is innocent, she does have that right as a citizen of the USA....like it or not.

1,000,000 signatures will not change that.

I pray she will be charged with murder 1 soon and be re-arrested....without bond.... [/*]

I didn't sign for the same reasons whether I like it or not.

I too hope they charge her and soon

v8433

09-05-2008, 01:05 AM

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable
Good Evening!

I have a question and I have been waiting for a time when it's slower here to ask.

Casey received a check from her Grandmother for her birthday. It was then said that Casey took money from her GM's account by uising the routing #.

How can that be done? When I withdraw cash at my bank the slip only requires the account #.

Anyone know how Casey did that with a routing #? [/*]

Hi Reasonable.
I've been wondering the same thing. I do know tho that if you write a check to someone that check contains that routing # on it.
I pay alot of my bills online and they ask for a routing #. So if you have a check from someone....made out to you...you could possibly use that # online to possibly do as Casey did.
I'm thinking she stole that cash online somehow. She wouldn't need to show ID that way. All she would need is that account # and routing #. Pretty sick and pretty scary how someone we may write a check to could use that check to rip us off.
This is just my idea about this, someone else may have a better answer than I.

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I didn't sign for the same reasons whether I like it or not.

I too hope they charge her and soon [/*]

Maybe they'll drop the charges on her tomorrow before she gets out. Anything new tonight? way behind, bad night..just another excuse LOL.

I watched some of Ng and it seems this case gets worse and worse every day.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by v8433

On the bottom of your checks is the bank routing number and your account number. When you use a slip from the bank their routing number is on there already and all you need is your acct number..Hope this helps. [/*]

Thank you. May I get this straight please. If I use a slip and just put my account # on it the bank can see my routing # when they look up my account #?
I'm still confused about Casey doing that. Wasn't she required to show id?

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by HeddaLettuce
I have contacted the young lady that is so outspoken on myspace that contacted LP on her own to get his side of the story. Let me tell you, she is a bright, intellegent young woman. She has dedicated an entire forum about this and I think she should be applauded for her braveness. If anyone is interested, visit her site and see her thoughts about this case. If only the Anthony family was as dedicated to finding this sweet angel. My hats off to her for showing such a dedication for justice. its more in such a short time than anything "Cindy" has done to find this child.

I salute her :patriot: [/*]

I like her alot. And I also salute her :patriot: and look forward to more from her. For a 20 yr old she seems so much more mature than many of her age and I think...and honestly....cry that she cares so much and has the cajones to have this page dedicated to Caylee. Every time I visit her, I cry and send prayers for her. I so wish she had been Caylee's mom. We wouldn't be here if she was.

Fallen Angel

09-05-2008, 01:14 AM

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Maybe they'll drop the charges on her tomorrow before she gets out. Anything new tonight? way behind, bad night..just another excuse LOL.

I watched some of Ng and it seems this case gets worse and worse every day. [/*]

lol I was thinking the same thing. I would almost prefer for them to let her out for a few hours and then haul her back in on other charges. I know I am twisted and mean.

I know this is so bizarre, nothing really new. I watched an interview with the Anthony's new lawyer and if he can get Cindy to stop talking or give her a speach to follow I am hoping it will help.

I hope your night gets better or that you have a better day tomorrow.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Hi Reasonable.
I've been wondering the same thing. I do know tho that if you write a check to someone that check contains that routing # on it.
I pay alot of my bills online and they ask for a routing #. So if you have a check from someone....made out to you...you could possibly use that # online to possibly do as Casey did.
I'm thinking she stole that cash online somehow. She wouldn't need to show ID that way. All she would need is that account # and routing #. Pretty sick and pretty scary how someone we may write a check to could use that check to rip us off.
This is just my idea about this, someone else may have a better answer than I. [/*]

Thank you Oregongal!

I pay my bills online as well with account # and routing #, but I've never made a purchase that way.

Still, how can you get cash that way.

I have no concept of how a criminal mind works. lol

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Thank you. May I get this straight please. If I use a slip and just put my account # on it the bank can see my routing # when they look up my account #?
I'm still confused about Casey doing that. Wasn't she required to show id? [/*]

At your own bank? The bank knows the routing number, if you are talking about your own bank.

Unperson1984

09-05-2008, 01:17 AM

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:18 AM

I have a question, how did Casey write cheqs at these places, I live in Canada and there is almost no where I could write a cheque, and the few places you can require ID. Is it different in the US or just at select stores?

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Protestors Gather At Anthony Home
http://www.wftv.com/news/17397003/detail.html [/*]

Thank you Cury!

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

lol I was thinking the same thing. I would almost prefer for them to let her out for a few hours and then haul her back in on other charges. I know I am twisted and mean.

I know this is so bizarre, nothing really new. I watched an interview with the Anthony's new lawyer and if he can get Cindy to stop talking or give her a speach to follow I am hoping it will help.

I hope your night gets better or that you have a better day tomorrow. [/*]

Thank you. Me too.. every day is a new day.

I'd really like them to find our Caylee tomorrow. I wonder if they are using the technique that livinitup emailed them about. I as thinkng about htat today and though, it couldn't hurt to try it, what better case than this to test it out. I wonder why Tim miller was adamant about finding her within a 3 mile radius. I've missed alot today so I apologize if it's been discussed.

Unperson1984

09-05-2008, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
hopefully tomorrow they will find Caylee [/*]

I really hope Tim finds her.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:20 AM

Also here at almost every bank you can't write a check for cash, it has to be a name or company, and they require a debit card or ID to get money or info from your own account that is going to the teller.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Thank you. Me too.. every day is a new day.

I'd really like them to find our Caylee tomorrow. I wonder if they are using the technique that livinitup emailed them about. I as thinkng about htat today and though, it couldn't hurt to try it, what better case than this to test it out. I wonder why Tim miller was adamant about finding her within a 3 mile radius. I've missed alot today so I apologize if it's been discussed. [/*]

I don't know I was thinking about that too. I thought I heard Tim Miller say that they were searching into the night. So maybe or maybe just his experienced crew is checking some things over. Maybe I am mistaken.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Aame

here one can write a check anywhere. More often than not an ID is required, but if she's as good as they say she is, she may have fake id's as well. [/*]

Really!

Yes I have no trouble believing she had fake ID, I don't know why that is:D

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by OneUp
Sociology and Psychology are hard in their own way...unlike most sciences, there are no absolutes. I've even had two professors at the same time with totally conflicting views! I def. had to get the "right" paper with the right POV to the proper professor!
I like working with people though, human behavior is a fascinating field of study. I loved it!
If there were more courses available locally, I would take them all.
They have come in handy in this case...the problem is which to choose...hmmmm...so many options!
Good night FOR REAL now!
:D [/*]

:D Good night...for real.. OneUp.
Yep, the human behavior thing is my real gift. Like I said, if I had it all to do over.
I think you are young enough to persue what you want.
Go for it. Don't wait. Take a look at those options and go with your heart.
:rose:

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I don't know I was thinking about that too. I thought I heard Tim Miller say that they were searching into the night. So maybe or maybe just his experienced crew is checking some things over. Maybe I am mistaken. [/*]

Are posts disappearing? I went to respond to a post and it seems to be gone, as soon as I quoted it to respond hmm..

Was it discussed where anyone thinks she is? I think she is at J blanchard park. She mentioned often, giving herself a reason for being there. then her story changed to zaneida taking Caylee from there. I think she's there and I think it's in an obvious location.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

At your own bank? The bank knows the routing number, if you are talking about your own bank. [/*]

Thank you. I am trying to figure out how Casey got money from GM's account? I guess I will have to assume she used checks and made them out to herself. There is software that lets you print your own checks as well. Maybe she did that.

I hate it when I can't figure out stuff. lol

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:28 AM

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Thank you. I am trying to figure out how Casey got money from GM's account? I guess I will have to assume she used checks and made them out to herself. There is software that lets you print your own checks as well. Maybe she did that.

I hate it when I can't figure out stuff. lol [/*]

Well all I can think is she possibly used them online? Although I'm not sure who takes checks like that online. Maybe she used them at the check cashing place, but I'd think LE checked into that. I would think it would have had to been online somehow.. possibly through paypal?? hmmm now you got me thinking. But I think that each bank has it's own routing number. If you and I used the same bank, I believe the routing number is the same. anyone use commerce back? If so do your first 3 numbers start out ast 031? It could be related to the branch??? She could have paid bills online with it though.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae
:seeya:

Playing catch-up as usual.

Went to the link with the petition, but didn't sign.

The reason why is because until Casey is charged for the murder of Caylee she has a right (under the laws we all live by) to post bond.

While this does not mean I feel Casey is innocent, she does have that right as a citizen of the USA....like it or not.

1,000,000 signatures will not change that.

I pray she will be charged with murder 1 soon and be re-arrested....without bond.... [/*]

Hi Kathy, didn't even go there, figured it would be something like what you said. Sorry, I want her charged with murder.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Are posts disappearing? I went to respond to a post and it seems to be gone, as soon as I quoted it to respond hmm..

Was it discussed where anyone thinks she is? I think she is at J blanchard park. She mentioned often, giving herself a reason for being there. then her story changed to zaneida taking Caylee from there. I think she's there and I think it's in an obvious location. [/*]

I don't know about posts disappearing, I know CW didn't like some of the conversation earlier, maybe she is doing house cleaning.

No one has said where, just locations that are in relation to her cell phone pings and Tim said last night he thought she would be found within a three mile radius from where he was last night.

I thought that there were some people from TES that went to Blanchard Park yesterday and I thought LE checked out something but I am not 100% sure.

I think she mentioned that park at least 2 or 3 times. I believe it was because it holds clues to Caylee or Caylee herself or she said it because she thinks she was spotted there moo

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Aame

even our fast food places take debit cards [/*]

same here

you can use debit cards or credit cards (usually checking sig) almost anywhere, but almost no where checks are accepted.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Thank you Oregongal!

I pay my bills online as well with account # and routing #, but I've never made a purchase that way.

Still, how can you get cash that way.

I have no concept of how a criminal mind works. lol [/*]

YW and good thing you don't have a criminal mind. :D
I have made purchases online and they do ask for acct. # and routing#. I don't think if it's ever been said that she got cash this way. If she did...well, ya got me there. Don't know how that would work.
I think she probably made purchases online with that info.
JMO

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Well all I can think is she possibly used them online? Although I'm not sure who takes checks like that online. Maybe she used them at the check cashing place, but I'd think LE checked into that. I would think it would have had to been online somehow.. possibly through paypal?? hmmm now you got me thinking. But I think that each bank has it's own routing number. If you and I used the same bank, I believe the routing number is the same. anyone use commerce back? If so do your first 3 numbers start out ast 031? It could be related to the branch??? She could have paid bills online with it though. [/*]

See when I pay a bill online I use my debit card number, the checks here (again Canada) the first set of numbers on the check are the check number, then is the branch number (location) usually a 5 digit number, then is the bank number(specific to bank name) usually three digits and then is the account number.

My online banking doesn't require any of these numbers, just my individual debit card number.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Aame
Couldn't someone give this girl a shot of sodium pentathol?
Isn't that something that used to be used during interrogations? [/*]

LOL. Sorry, but this struck me funny. I don't think it's legal to just do that and I certainly don't think Casey...or Cindy, or Baez...would ever agree to that.
JMO

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Well all I can think is she possibly used them online? Although I'm not sure who takes checks like that online. Maybe she used them at the check cashing place, but I'd think LE checked into that. I would think it would have had to been online somehow.. possibly through paypal?? hmmm now you got me thinking. But I think that each bank has it's own routing number. If you and I used the same bank, I believe the routing number is the same. anyone use commerce back? If so do your first 3 numbers start out ast 031? It could be related to the branch??? She could have paid bills online with it though. [/*]

yes banks use the same routing #. We changed our account #'s and the routing # was the same.

Intesting in that the perps in our case paid cell phone bills online with the CC's they got. AT&T to boot.

Also there were charges to Spirit Air which is a charter service to the Bahamas and a few other places out of Florida.

gosh I'm going off the deep end, but it's hard to read what Casey has done through June and July and we have all these charges in Orlando for that same time frame.

Course some online purchases were made like to Neiman Marcus for over $5,000.
Casey prefers Target though huh? lol

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

LOL. Sorry, but this struck me funny. I don't think it's legal to just do that and I certainly don't think Casey...or Cindy, or Baez...would ever agree to that.
JMO [/*]

Yeah but maybe someone could accidently stick her with a needle of it, just before her free hour.:D

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

yes banks use the same routing #. We changed our account #'s and the routing # was the same.

Intesting in that the perps in our case paid cell phone bills online with the CC's they got. AT&T to boot.

Also there were charges to Spirit Air which is a charter service to the Bahamas and a few other places out of Florida.

gosh I'm going off the deep end, but it's hard to read what Casey has done through June and July and we have all these charges in Orlando for that same time frame.

Course some online purchases were made like to Neiman Marcus for over $5,000.
Casey prefers Target though huh? lol [/*]

Do you have any idea how your info was acquired, like stolen wallet, purse etc?

Motomom

09-05-2008, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I don't know about posts disappearing, I know CW didn't like some of the conversation earlier, maybe she is doing house cleaning.

No one has said where, just locations that are in relation to her cell phone pings and Tim said last night he thought she would be found within a three mile radius from where he was last night.

I thought that there were some people from TES that went to Blanchard Park yesterday and I thought LE checked out something but I am not 100% sure.

I think she mentioned that park at least 2 or 3 times. I believe it was because it holds clues to Caylee or Caylee herself or she said it because she thinks she was spotted there moo [/*]

It was a post about Tennesse, but I won't say anymore cause I don't want to get banned.

I think blanchard park is going to play a role in this. how big is it, does anyone know? I don't think she took the time to go deep into any area. I think she is well covered but easily accesible.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Aame

here one can write a check anywhere. More often than not an ID is required, but if she's as good as they say she is, she may have fake id's as well.

even our fast food places take debit cards [/*]

Yep. My DD uses my debit card, with my permission, sometimes even will sign my name and nobody questions or asks for ID.
My DD is 27, lives with me and I trust her completely. The only time she does this is when I can't go out and have her do things for me. But, bottom line what I'm trying to say...it's pretty loose around here. God help me if anyone else got ahold of my debit card.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Yep. My DD uses my debit card, with my permission, sometimes even will sign my name and nobody questions or asks for ID.
My DD is 27, lives with me and I trust her completely. The only time she does this is when I can't go out and have her do things for me. But, bottom line what I'm trying to say...it's pretty loose around here. God help me if anyone else got ahold of my debit card. [/*]

My kids use my debit card all the time and never get asked for ID, credit cards here different story, they almost always at least check the signature.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

Do you have any idea how your info was acquired, like stolen wallet, purse etc? [/*]

Hi Luvinlife!

No purses or wallets stolen. SS# was used. They have told us we will probably never know how that info was obtained. thousands of ways so we're told.

I imagine Casey could easily obtain GM's SS# as well. Doubt we'll ever know since her Mom Cindy will never tell.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

Maybe they'll drop the charges on her tomorrow before she gets out. Anything new tonight? way behind, bad night..just another excuse LOL.

I watched some of Ng and it seems this case gets worse and worse every day. [/*]

Sorry for your bad night Motomom. If you saw NG, not much new, except she's been bonded, but not yet out.
I hope she'll get out and then they will drop new charges. Ya never know this in/out thing just may get to her.
I won't hold my breath on that tho.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
hopefully tomorrow they will find Caylee [/*]

I pray for this each night FA. I want her to be found so bad.
Then again, each time I hear of breaking news, I get sick to my stomach that she has been found.
It's a horrible thing.
For Caylee
:rose:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Hi Luvinlife!

No purses or wallets stolen. SS# was used. They have told us we will probably never know how that info was obtained. thousands of ways so we're told.

I imagine Casey could easily obtain GM's SS# as well. Doubt we'll ever know since her Mom Cindy will never tell. [/*]

No kidding Cindy would never part with that info, but maybe GGM would.

I know that there are people out there that actually steal the info and apply for credit and then they sell those items for others. SO those that get the identity aren't the ones making the purchases. I don't doubt that Casey could be involved in that, buying the cc's etc. It is odd that is Florida and the time frame, eerie.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 01:58 AM

Oh yeah right she didn't have a job to pay for cc's in someone elses name.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

No kidding Cindy would never part with that info, but maybe GGM would.

I know that there are people out there that actually steal the info and apply for credit and then they sell those items for others. SO those that get the identity aren't the ones making the purchases. I don't doubt that Casey could be involved in that, buying the cc's etc. It is odd that is Florida and the time frame, eerie. [/*]

I think GGM would be afraid if you know what I mean.

My local LE is well aware of the Caylee case and sent our reports and all info to Orlando LE and Ft. Lauderdale. Ya never know.

I do so appreciate everyones replies. It's nice to not have to quote myself 3 times to get a reply.

Goodnight to all

Reas

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:02 AM

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

Yeah but maybe someone could accidently stick her with a needle of it, just before her free hour.:D [/*]

:lol: :lol:

Motomom

09-05-2008, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Sorry for your bad night Motomom. If you saw NG, not much new, except she's been bonded, but not yet out.
I hope she'll get out and then they will drop new charges. Ya never know this in/out thing just may get to her.
I won't hold my breath on that tho. [/*]

I watched some of NG, then got caught up in McCains speach and came down and unpaused her and listened but missed the end, go figure. Anyone here from cindy besides the email and new lawyer. Hubby said enough with this kid, find this kid, this has gone on long enough.. lock her up.. He doesn't follow as closely and our interests are different LOL.

Just speculation, pure speculation. I haven't seen too much of George. Could George realize what is really going on,k what has happened. Could he have agreed with LE to bug the house? then all of a sudden Casey is out..even maybe thinking she'll slip up an d say something. I would imagine that would be a very difficlut thing for him to do though. something else too..let me think LOL. .. Oh ng kept replaying the video of her rearrest. They do it in slow motion and I'm watching this girl a and how she walks.. not sure if in regular motion it is the same or not, but the slow motion really emphasizes her.. uhh not sure what you'd call it, herhip sway...

sorry for the typos and mispelling... I'm doing this with my eyes closed.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 02:08 AM

Caylee's Mom Leaving Jail; Crowd Angry Over 'Paris Hilton' Treatment

Local 6 News reported that the parents of Casey Anthony, George and Cindy, signed a promissory note agreement where they put up bond money to get their daughter out of jail.

http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

I think GGM would be afraid if you know what I mean.

My local LE is well aware of the Caylee case and sent our reports and all info to Orlando LE and Ft. Lauderdale. Ya never know.

I do so appreciate everyones replies. It's nice to not have to quote myself 3 times to get a reply.

Goodnight to all

Reas [/*]

Good night Reas, sleep well and look forward to hearing from you again. Don't worry about the non replying, it's not personal...this board just moves too fast. I understand what you are saying, have had to remind myself about that very thing.
:seeya:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

I watched some of NG, then got caught up in McCains speach and came down and unpaused her and listened but missed the end, go figure. Anyone here from cindy besides the email and new lawyer. Hubby said enough with this kid, find this kid, this has gone on long enough.. lock her up.. He doesn't follow as closely and our interests are different LOL.

Just speculation, pure speculation. I haven't seen too much of George. Could George realize what is really going on,k what has happened. Could he have agreed with LE to bug the house? then all of a sudden Casey is out..even maybe thinking she'll slip up an d say something. I would imagine that would be a very difficlut thing for him to do though. something else too..let me think LOL. .. Oh ng kept replaying the video of her rearrest. They do it in slow motion and I'm watching this girl a and how she walks.. not sure if in regular motion it is the same or not, but the slow motion really emphasizes her.. uhh not sure what you'd call it, herhip sway...

sorry for the typos and mispelling... I'm doing this with my eyes closed. [/*]

I am not sure if GA is closer to realizing what is going on but he couldn't be as in denial as CA I hope. I think he should know that there is a good chance that LE has tapped their phones and bugged their house. TH's on NG said last night for sure it's been done, I think the same. If GA didn't think it, I am sure JB said so, I bet they don't say a da// thing in the house.

I think GA knows that they have to stop talking and himself and Lee just keep themselves busy doing anything they can. I know Tony Padilla said on WS said that GA had returned to work, not sure when, for who, full time, part time or even if its true.

Casey's Paris Hilton walk out of the house yeah she bugs me, I have never seen anyone like her.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 02:09 AM

WESH reported "vaporized" chloroform. Does that mean the results are from air testing?

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

There's been cases of criminals kiting money from one stolen account to another. People don't often realize anything is wrong until they see an extremely large sum of money in their account from a statement or it finally collapses. [/*]

Hello Dragon!

I was about to sign off when I saw your post.

What is Kiting?

We were lucky as we got a call from one of the credit card companies that noticed odd charges and we don't even have a card with them. Odd meaning thousands charged within hours of activating the card and a check of our credit report showed we didn't ever make huge or alot of charges.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

There's been cases of criminals kiting money from one stolen account to another. People don't often realize anything is wrong until they see an extremely large sum of money in their account from a statement or it finally collapses. [/*]

It always amazes me how criminals seem to get ahead of the safety measures put in place, I guess they have the motivation to do it. I know here the bank put a stop on my debit card after my card had been used in one transaction because it wasn't my normal activity and I use my debit everywhere. It was a pain but its better to be safe than sorry.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
WESH reported "vaporized" chloroform. Does that mean the results are from air testing? [/*]

Must be:shrug:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Caylee's Mom Leaving Jail; Crowd Angry Over 'Paris Hilton' Treatment

Local 6 News reported that the parents of Casey Anthony, George and Cindy, signed a promissory note agreement where they put up bond money to get their daughter out of jail.

http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html [/*]

I feel bad for these neighbors, those protestors need to search for Caylee and quit it, it is pointless and stupid and someone is going to get hurt. moo

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by Motomom

I watched some of NG, then got caught up in McCains speach and came down and unpaused her and listened but missed the end, go figure. Anyone here from cindy besides the email and new lawyer. Hubby said enough with this kid, find this kid, this has gone on long enough.. lock her up.. He doesn't follow as closely and our interests are different LOL.

Just speculation, pure speculation. I haven't seen too much of George. Could George realize what is really going on,k what has happened. Could he have agreed with LE to bug the house? then all of a sudden Casey is out..even maybe thinking she'll slip up an d say something. I would imagine that would be a very difficlut thing for him to do though. something else too..let me think LOL. .. Oh ng kept replaying the video of her rearrest. They do it in slow motion and I'm watching this girl a and how she walks.. not sure if in regular motion it is the same or not, but the slow motion really emphasizes her.. uhh not sure what you'd call it, herhip sway...

sorry for the typos and mispelling... I'm doing this with my eyes closed. [/*]

Moto, George has been in my mind, suspiciously absent for a few days. On NG tonight all 3 of the unleashed lawyers said they think the house may have been bugged. It wouldn't take any of the Anthony's to agree to it. I'm thinking maybe LE has bugged the house or phone. If that went into hold after Casey was rearrested, surely it would go back into full motion when she is yet again....:cuss: released. I'm hoping, thinking, praying that LE has this little snots number big time. That they have her number big time and won't let a second go by that they could possibly use to hang her.
I have faith in LE, ol fashion gal that I am....they will get her...sooner or later, one way or another, this little mamma is going to hang.
I commend you for posting with your eyes closed...I can't tell you how many times I've backspaced to correct myself here.
Justice will come for Caylee. I just pray that it will be sooner rather than later.

Reasonable

09-05-2008, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

Kiting is a method of propping up one account with checks from another. They have to steadily increase the amount of the checks to cover the previous one.

It can get pretty elaborate. Professionals will use 3 banks or more.

There are cases where kiting has grown to millions of dollars. [/*]

Thank you. WOW I will have to read up on that. Wouldn't want to lose my millions :D

To Oregongal:

Thank you. I've been around for a long time. I don't post much. My Grandma taught me that you learn more by listening. I've learned alot.

Plus I never give my opinion on any case. I may make an exception one day. lol

Goodnight again and thanks to all.

Reas

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Caylee's Mom Leaving Jail; Crowd Angry Over 'Paris Hilton' Treatment

Local 6 News reported that the parents of Casey Anthony, George and Cindy, signed a promissory note agreement where they put up bond money to get their daughter out of jail.

http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html [/*]

OMG!
All I can do right now is run to the bathroom and barf
So is this saying it was the parents are the 'anonymous' money people?

Thank you Cury for this and being up so late to bring us this.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me in any form.

Chloroform that would be used against a person for nefarious reasons would originally be in a liquid form. But, it evaporates very quickly.

How it would still be "in the air" after sitting in an impound lot for 2 weeks is beyond me.

I also had a friend tell me today that some of the plastics and PVCs used in the interior of a car will give off a chloroform-type of composition when the plastics break down.

I personally think the test results (if true) are from chlorine. [/*]

Did you see the link earlier from the chem expert guy.?

eta http://www.wesh.com/news/17392699/detail.html

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Reasonable

Thank you. WOW I will have to read up on that. Wouldn't want to lose my millions :D

To Oregongal:

Thank you. I've been around for a long time. I don't post much. My Grandma taught me that you learn more by listening. I've learned alot.

Plus I never give my opinion on any case. I may make an exception one day. lol

Goodnight again and thanks to all.

Reas [/*]

I hear you Reas. And your Grandma was right.
Good night again.
;)

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me in any form.

Chloroform that would be used against a person for nefarious reasons would originally be in a liquid form. But, it evaporates very quickly.

How it would still be "in the air" after sitting in an impound lot for 2 weeks is beyond me.

I also had a friend tell me today that some of the plastics and PVCs used in the interior of a car will give off a chloroform-type of composition when the plastics break down.

I personally think the test results (if true) are from chlorine. [/*]

I had the same questions when this came out, I thought it would evaporate and what would be left.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:39 AM

I am waiting for the maggot information, the tow guys stmt confirmed the maggots.

Would these obviously new maggots, have any information to share?

I think they could (if the garbage bad itself had any physical evidence in it) have very valuable information.

LeslieK

09-05-2008, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

IPost snipped for bandwith:
Casey's Paris Hilton walk out of the house yeah she bugs me, I have never seen anyone like her. [/*]

She looks like she's trying to be sexy or something. Its bizarre, as if she has no idea what serious trouble she's in and thinks this is all a show for her....its as weird as her walking into court for the arraignment with that little smirk on her face when she saw the cameras and then controlled her smile. She thinks its all about her. She's a legend in her own mind.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

OMG!
All I can do right now is run to the bathroom and barf
So is this saying it was the parents are the 'anonymous' money people?

Thank you Cury for this and being up so late to bring us this. [/*]

If Local 6 is correct, they are Mr & Mrs Anonymous.

Unfortunately not much time to read here, has the earlier towing of Casey's vehicle been discussed? IIRC, in Amy's statement she paid because Casey did not have the cash. Seems the Anthony's would have received mail notification of that event also, unless Casey tracked down the towing company and retrieved the car before the notice was sent.
jmo

LeslieK

09-05-2008, 02:46 AM

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by LeslieK

She looks like she's trying to be sexy or something. Its bizarre, as if she has no idea what serious trouble she's in and thinks this is all a show for her....its as weird as her walking into court for the arraignment with that little smirk on her face when she saw the cameras and then controlled her smile. She thinks its all about her. She's a legend in her own mind. [/*]

No kidding, the smile and wave in court reminded me of something a child would do when they see their parents at a Christmas concert, or a teen excited to see their friends at the mall. It was weird she definately isn't normal in her head.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I had the same questions when this came out, I thought it would evaporate and what would be left. [/*]

IIRC they said there was a suspiciously high amount of cloraform detected. In my mind that says there was more than would have evaporated. Enough to hang around and be detected. And IMO means more than Casey trying to put Caylee to sleep. Enough to kill her.
As I said...IMO!!!
Please don't throw any tomatoes.

LeslieK

09-05-2008, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Aame
Couldn't someone give this girl a shot of sodium pentathol?
Isn't that something that used to be used during interrogations? [/*]

In most cases, its a violation of your Constitutional rights to do so.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:51 AM

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 02:52 AM

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

IIRC they said there was a suspiciously high amount of cloraform detected. In my mind that says there was more than would have evaporated. Enough to hang around and be detected. And IMO means more than Casey trying to put Caylee to sleep. Enough to kill her.
As I said...IMO!!!
Please don't throw any tomatoes. [/*]

Oh I agree, I don't think that if Casey had chloroform it was to put Caylee to sleep so she could party, there are I am sure easier and less risky(meaning where you need to know the right amount not to kill her and make sure she slept long enough) ways to get your kid to sleep. When I was young and had a youg child my son slept through everything, vacuum, really loud music.

anyways I think if she had it , it was to kill Caylee with and nothing else(okay maybe huffing)

LeslieK

09-05-2008, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I believe that the money was given to the Anthony's to physically post bond, but the money to do so was from an anonymous person.

I have no idea about the earlier towing, I don't recall seeing that in the stmt. Was it in the origianl docs stmt?? [/*]

IIRC, they have to pay the 10% and the bonding company puts up the rest. Maybe the note was for the 10%.

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife
I am waiting for the maggot information, the tow guys stmt confirmed the maggots.

Would these obviously new maggots, have any information to share?

I think they could (if the garbage bad itself had any physical evidence in it) have very valuable information. [/*]

Oh, God luvin, I hate maggots, but will try and hold my vomit back....after the amount of time that went by, from when Caylee was in the trunk and decomposing, the flies that were there and laid eggs to form maggots initially could have formed more flies to lay more eggs turning into maggots...etc. We don't know how long Caylee was in that trunk, there could be a couple of generations of flies/maggots happening while that trunk was closed, even after her lil body was gone.
Ok, that's as far as I can go. I hope this makes sense. Now give me something else to think about to get this picture out of my mind.
:eek:

LeslieK

09-05-2008, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

No kidding, the smile and wave in court reminded me of something a child would do when they see their parents at a Christmas concert, or a teen excited to see their friends at the mall. It was weird she definately isn't normal in her head. [/*]

She's definitely creepy. I wonder where all her friends are now. I bet there's a good reason that they're not supporting her.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

I believe that the money was given to the Anthony's to physically post bond, but the money to do so was from an anonymous person.

I have no idea about the earlier towing, I don't recall seeing that in the stmt. Was it in the origianl docs stmt?? [/*]

Amy H's statement part of the 400+ document drop. AH commented about getting stuck with that bill too.
jmo

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by LeslieK

IIRC, they have to pay the 10% and the bonding company puts up the rest. Maybe the note was for the 10%. [/*]

that is how i understood it

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Oh, God luvin, I hate maggots, but will try and hold my vomit back....after the amount of time that went by, from when Caylee was in the trunk and decomposing, the flies that were there and laid eggs to form maggots initially could have formed more flies to lay more eggs turning into maggots...etc. We don't know how long Caylee was in that trunk, there could be a couple of generations of flies/maggots happening while that trunk was closed, even after her lil body was gone.
Ok, that's as far as I can go. I hope this makes sense. Now give me something else to think about to get this picture out of my mind.
:eek: [/*]

lol

I know but I am wondering if there was still traces of decomposing liquid or sorry skin or whatever, would the second or third generation still contain evidence? I hope this makes sense

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote

Amy H's statement part of the 400+ document drop. AH commented about getting stuck with that bill too.
jmo [/*]

okay now i need to go look at it again, I don't remember her saying anything about towing. :read:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

And that would be the only thing that would make sense to me. The chloroform would have to have been introduced most likely after the car was picked up at the impound lot.

Which would give things a very curious twist. [/*]

No kidding, the Anthony's have found a bottle of it in the car and tossed at their house. Now I personally am still going with the idea that George and Cindy didn't have anything to do with Caylee being missing or purposely hiding or destroying evidence.
If I get info from LE stating differently I will believe it only then.

Anyways if Casey had some in her vehicle it could be from anywhere and no saying that the bottle had a label, still possible that she had it in the trunk.

It has to mean something if it was in the trunk and on the computer. It was Casey or her parents to me that is the only conclusion.moo

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote

If Local 6 is correct, they are Mr & Mrs Anonymous.

Unfortunately not much time to read here, has the earlier towing of Casey's vehicle been discussed? IIRC, in Amy's statement she paid because Casey did not have the cash. Seems the Anthony's would have received mail notification of that event also, unless Casey tracked down the towing company and retrieved the car before the notice was sent.
jmo [/*]

Oh my Cury, this is the first I've heard of this. Was it in the doc dump? If so I missed it. So there was an earlier time the car was towed? And that would mean G&C may have known about it. Since they are the registered owners. Oh my, my head is again spinning with ideas that the latest tow and pickup may have not been their first rodeo with Casey and the car. Whoa. With this and them possibly being Mr & Mrs Anonymous, puts a whole diff spin on the whole thing. Says to me they were and are in CYA mode. Makes me feel all that much worse for Caylee. :(

cuddlyrunner

09-05-2008, 03:10 AM

She's never getting out again??????

v8433

09-05-2008, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by MicheleL
Did the girl with the audio MySpace, delete her acct?

I can't seem to find it anymore .. :shrug: [/*]

She added me as a friend last night. Earlier today it was up, now it says acct. closed. Dont know if Myspace pulled her. I cant see her closing it herself. I loved her passion for Caylee. "A voice."

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:17 AM

Thanks for looking that up Dragon, I tried for hours last night and couldn't find or understand the information.

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Dragon

And that would be the only thing that would make sense to me. The chloroform would have to have been introduced most likely after the car was picked up at the impound lot.

Which would give things a very curious twist. [/*]

Agreed.

IMO, if Caylee was in that trunk is was for a short duration or extreme cleaning transpired.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote

Amy H's statement part of the 400+ document drop. AH commented about getting stuck with that bill too.
jmo [/*]

Okay I must be blind because I just looked again and didn't see it

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

lol

I know but I am wondering if there was still traces of decomposing liquid or sorry skin or whatever, would the second or third generation still contain evidence? I hope this makes sense [/*]

Lol me too, still choking, and yes you do make sense. I think there would be evidence. Logically those generations would continue to to pass on what they got from the first generation.
I'm not a scientist or biologist tho and could be totally wrong,
I'm just going with with what I've learned and what I think logically.

oxfordfox

09-05-2008, 03:25 AM

Is someone suggesting that maybe the Anthonys put the cloroform in the car? Do you think it's possible that Cindy, being a nurse, got a hold of a bottle of it and poured it in the trunk to mask the decomposition smell? Boy, it sure would throw off a dog's sense Of smell I would bet, in case the car was revisited by the dogs. Pretty smart move actually.

juliekan

09-05-2008, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Caylee's Mom Leaving Jail; Crowd Angry Over 'Paris Hilton' Treatment

Local 6 News reported that the parents of Casey Anthony, George and Cindy, signed a promissory note agreement where they put up bond money to get their daughter out of jail.

http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html [/*]

How much does Baez (anon.) make per year?

Baez lovin' himself some of those brownies :eek: ...he spent 7 hours with her today??

Oregongal

09-05-2008, 03:28 AM

I am now going to pray for Caylee and try and get the maggot puke out of my mind so I can rest my eyes for the night.
Good night all, sleep well and I hope tomorrow will be the day that Caylee will be found and justice will begin for her.
I hope that when Casey is released she will have enough time to go home, get herself a shower and begin to feel comfy and then LE will come knocking on the door and arrest her again.
Tick tock Casey, your time is coming.
Nite all.
:seeya:
For Caylee
:rose:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by juliekan

How much does Baez make per year?

Baez lovin' himself some of those brownies :eek: ...he spent 7 hours with her today?? [/*]

Sometimes I think he does it because he wants to make sure she doesn't talk.

It has been said she will never talk, I think she talks alot it's just all lies. moo

oxfordfox

09-05-2008, 03:29 AM

She probably poured it in the car when she went to tow place to threaten those guys. I know it sounds crazy but who knows but that was really the reason why she went there. Who has the car anyway?

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal
I am now going to pray for Caylee and try and get the maggot puke out of my mind so I can rest my eyes for the night.
Good night all, sleep well and I hope tomorrow will be the day that Caylee will be found and justice will begin for her.
I hope that when Casey is released she will have enough time to go home, get herself a shower and begin to feel comfy and then LE will come knocking on the door and arrest her again.
Tick tock Casey, your time is coming.
Nite all.
:seeya:
For Caylee
:rose: [/*]

lol

good nite and may your wishes come true.

:seeya:

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by oxfordfox
She probably poured it in the car when she went to tow place to threaten those guys. I know it sounds crazy but who knows but that was really the reason why she went there. Who has the car anyway? [/*]

LE has the car and has had it since July 16th or 17th

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Oregongal

Oh my Cury, this is the first I've heard of this. Was it in the doc dump? If so I missed it. So there was an earlier time the car was towed? And that would mean G&C may have known about it. Since they are the registered owners. Oh my, my head is again spinning with ideas that the latest tow and pickup may have not been their first rodeo with Casey and the car. Whoa. With this and them possibly being Mr & Mrs Anonymous, puts a whole diff spin on the whole thing. Says to me they were and are in CYA mode. Makes me feel all that much worse for Caylee. :( [/*]

IF the A's received multiple tow notifications, it might explain the lack of urgency to respond the second time and the attitude with the storage charges. But if Casey and Amy retrieved the car before mail notification, it might establish a gas gauge problem and Casey's pattern of slow corrective response. Possibly the car was illegally parked during the first instance.
jmo

Cury-us Coyote

09-05-2008, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

Okay I must be blind because I just looked again and didn't see it [/*]

Transcript of Taped Interview AH by Detective White 7/21/08
number page 255

'Cause she needed to get her car towed and I had cash and she didn't. Obviously not seeing any of that money either.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote

Transcript of Taped Interview AH by Detective White 7/21/08
number page 255

'Cause she needed to get her car towed and I had cash and she didn't. Obviously not seeing any of that money either. [/*]

Thanks I was still looking lol

I think its possible Casey was lying, but if she wasn't I get the impression this was from a while before this all happened.

Because Caylee was with them, she was saying it was the only time that she saw Caylee anywhere else besides her place.

luvinlife

09-05-2008, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by CaféAuLait
I can't believe that this &&^&^&% posted her bail again and she is being released tomorrow morning again! What is wrong with people? :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: [/*]

Different people this time and anonymous lender for the $50,000

KatieKates

09-05-2008, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by luvinlife

No kidding, the Anthony's have found a bottle of it in the car and tossed at their house. Now I personally am still going with the idea that George and Cindy didn't have anything to do with Caylee being missing or purposely hiding or destroying evidence.
If I get info from LE stating differently I will believe it only then.

Anyways if Casey had some in her vehicle it could be from anywhere and no saying that the bottle had a label, still possible that she had it in the trunk.

It has to mean something if it was in the trunk and on the computer. It was Casey or her parents to me that is the only conclusion.moo [/*]

I tend to agree. The introduction to the chloroform, which by the way has NO reason to be in the car aside from sinister motives, imo, changes everything for me. Where I'm quick to defend the Anthony's because I blame Casey and only Casey for the death of this child, I can't wrap my head around this point. Substantial amounts, imo, would suggest a bottle had been in the trunk and spilled out at some point. Where's the bottle?

I'd hate to think that the GP's got rid of evidence of any kind, and I'm forgiving of the pants issue, because I probably would have washed them not thinking in a million years my grandchild was actually dead in the car, but the chloroform just doesn't make sense to me, if the amounts NG was talking about ring true. I'll wait for LE to come back with their results from investigation, but it doesn't look good.

Now, if that's the case, I'll be the first to condemn the Anthony's. Especially if the container containing the chloroform shows up as being thrown out after the fact.

:rolleyes:

GrandmaGA

09-05-2008, 05:21 AM

Originally posted by C_E
Hey silver

I just noticed the big billboard on the Anthony front yard.

Thats a WEIRD place for George to park it and it blocks vision to the house.

Not sure if they can do that if Casey is being released and the house isnt fully visible from the road..

I see a reporter on the cam at the jail, must be a long shift for those guys. [/*]

There is no law that the house has to be "fully visable from the road" and why should there be? She is not out on bond to be in a fishbowl. Can you name any other bonded out person who has had a camera pointed at their home 24/7?

GrandmaGA

09-05-2008, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by CaféAuLait

OMG why??? Why would anyone believe that this piece of scum should even be walking outside a 4x10 cell? She has done nothing but lie!

I had this nightmare, I guess because I have been reading about this case so much. In my dream the searchers found little Caylee's body. In that dream the searchers were screaming for the vulture’s to leave her little body alone, as they approached one vulture turned its head slowly and deliberately to look at the searchers as if defying their pleas to leave, . Its yellow eyes lit up and it was bone chilling. I woke up in a cold sweat crying. I think that I need to stop reading about this case so much!!

I know there is no actual solid proof Casey killed her, however the circumstantial evidence is there and it tells me she is no alive anymore. I can only hope she did not suffer.

For Caylee: :rose: [/*]

Because she has not been charged with murder and there has been no trial we do not know about any circumstantial evidence, all we know are leaks and suspicions.

Keegan

09-05-2008, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by GrandmaGA

Because she has not been charged with murder and there has been no trial we do not know about any circumstantial evidence, all we know are leaks and suspicions. [/*]

HUGE suspicions.

GrandmaGA

09-05-2008, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Keegan

HUGE suspicions. [/*]

True but again, suspicions do not equal proof. :shrug:

WinnieLeigh7

09-05-2008, 08:06 AM

I'M NOT SURE OF MY STANCE ON THE 'PARANORMAL'...

I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE INTUNED WITH THEIR 'SENSES', EVEN SCIENCE WILL SAY THAT LESS THAN HALF OF OUR BRAIN FUNCTIONS ARE USED TO SURVIVE ON A DAILY BASIS, SO WHY HAVE ALL THIS 'EXTRA BRAIN'... LOL

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DO BELIEVE IN A 'SIXTH' SENSE, I BELIEVE CHILDREN ARE MORE AWARE OF IT THAN ADULTS, BECAUSE THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE JUST SHUT IT OUT...

BUT TO WHAT EXTENT THIS 'EXTRA SENSE' WORKS, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT.

REGARDLESS, I FIND IT INTERESTING.

AND WHILE I REALIZE NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE EVER SOLVED A MISSING PERSON CASE, AND I'M ALSO AWARE THAT MANY SPEAK IN GENERAL TERMS OR GO WITH THE MOST PROBABLE CAUSE BECAUSE STATISTICS ARE IN THEIR FAVOR, AND WHILE I ALSO BELIEVE THAT MANY ARE JUST EXPERT 'INFORMAL SHRINKS' THAT'S EXCELLENT AT READING BODY LANGUAGE AND SUCH...
IT ALL STILL FASCINATES ME.

ANYWAY, AS FOR CAYLEE'S STORY, I STARTED SEARCHING PREDICTIONS FOR HER. WHAT HAPPENED, WHERE IS SHE, ETC.

IF YOU GOOGLE 'CAYLEE ANTHONY PREDICTIONS', THE FIRST SITE TO POP UP IS A BLOG BY A 'MICHELLE' LADY, WHO I BELIEVE HOLDS HERSELF OUT TO BE A MEDIUM.

IF YOU READ THROUGH THE POST...AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE CAN BACK DATE THESE....
BUT IF YOU READ THROUGH THE POST, EVEN BEFORE THE RELEASE OF NEW INFORMATION ON CHLOROFORM AND SUCH, SHE STATES THAT CAYLEE IS TELLING HER SHE WAS SUFFOCATED.

MANY OTHER PEOPLE THERE THAT ALSO CLAIM TO HAVE 'THIS SENSE', SEEM TO BACK HER THEORY, SOME IN A LIL' DIFFERENT FASHION, BUT ALL SEEM TO AGREE ON THE SENSE OF 'I CAN'T BREATH'...
MANY ALSO SEEM TO AGREE ON HER WHEREABOUTS IN THE TERMS OF BEING WRAPPED IN A GARMENT AND SURROUNDED BY BLACK PLASTIC...

WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE TRASH BAG IN THE CAR WAS BLACK...

ANYWAY...WITHIN THIS POST SHE STATES THAT CAYLEE ISN'T ANGRY AT HER MOM, THAT SHE REALIZES THAT SHE IS 'SICK' AND NEEDS HELP...

UP TO THAT POINT, I JUST NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT 'WHAT DOES CAYLEE THINK, HOW DOES CAYLEE FEEL ABOUT WHATEVER HAS HAPPENED TO HER'

WITHOUT QUESTION, HER MOTHER IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HATED PEOPLE WALKING THE EARTH TODAY...
HER GRANDMOTHER FOLLOWING CLOSELY BEHIND.

I'LL ADMIT, NEITHER ARE ON OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING ON MY 'TOP 10' FAVORITES.

I DON'T KNOW THOUGH, JUST READING THAT, WAS SO HEARTBREAKING...

TO THINK OF WHAT CAYLEE WENT THROUGH, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HER, WHAT COULD SHE POSSIBLY BE THINKING AS TO WHAT HER MOTHER DID TO HER, WHAT CROSSED HER LIL' MIND, HOW SCARED AND CONFUSED SHE MUST HAVE BEEN, I MEAN THIS WAS HER MOTHER...
THE ONE THAT GAVE HER LIFE...
AND THERE SHE WAS TAKING IT.

IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE 'AFTERLIFE'....
AND YOU BELIEVE THAT CAYLEE IS NOW WITH THE ANGELS, IS SHE LOOKING DOWN ON US NOW, SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT DOES SHE THINK NOW, HOW DOES SHE FEEL.

IS CAYLEE PROTECTING HER MOM FROM ABOVE
DOES CAYLEE NOT WANT TO BE FOUND BECAUSE SHE'S TRYING TO GIVE HER MOTHER THE LOVE THAT HER MOTHER COULDN'T EVEN GIVE HER...

OH GOD, THIS POOR SWEET LIL' GIRL

IT'S JUST SO SAD, SO SO SAD