Thursday Sept 4th. - Morning Thread

[n/t]

Morning all,

Give me one good reason why the Bounty Hunter wants to bail her out again. Please. Cuz I'm just not getting it. I really don't. It didn't work the first time. Why in the world would he think it'll work now. She denied the limited immunity deal, her attorney doesn't want her talking to anyone!!

This is new to me. I don't know what to make of it. She had groceries? She went grocery shopping? Also, wouldn't Tony smell decomp on her if we assume the car smelled like a dead body was in it? Gosh this case will drive me insane.


LANCE: Well, I spoke to Anthony Lazzaro today, Nancy, and he told me a little bit about the Amscot where Casey abandoned that car. He was actually the person who picked Casey up after she abandoned the car.

He said that she had called him late that morning, said that her car had run out of gas, that this is nothing that was unusual, her car had run out of gas before. He went to go pick her up. She was already standing outside of the vehicle with groceries in her arms.

He said, is there anything I need to look at? And she said, oh no, don`t worry about it, my dad was going to take care of it. He brought her back to the apartment and he said that she stayed there for the rest of the afternoon.

Now he went on vacation a few days after this and he even spoke to her again and asked her, did your dad, you know, take care of the car? And she said, yes, my dad took care of the car, he took it to a dealership, they`re working on it, they`re going to find -- I`m going to get a new car, they`re going to trade it in.

And he -- the interesting thing that he said is that she gave specific information, specific information in terms of where the car was taken, even the names of people who worked on the car.

But as we know, that car was never taken to any type of dealership to get worked on because it was at that Amscot, and it was towed away.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/03/ng.01.html

Caylee:rose:

[Postergeist]

Mornin' n/t-

don't really have an opinion right now about what the BH is saying/doing but I got the impression from the 9/3 talk that isn't what he plans to do.

As far as the decomp- maybe not- keep in mind clothes were left in the car/backseat (or trunk) so she may have changed into fresher smelling clothes or the car just got stinkier all the days it sat in the lot and then the tow yard.

I wasn't able to be on yesterday afternoon or evening- did Cindy or any on the Anthony team make comments about the chloro. and the computer search history of that?

(sooo happy that OSCO stepped up with help and $$ for Tim and that he's staying!)

(cheers to TES and All Volunteers!)

:rose:

imo

[SavannahStar]

Good morning all, I wasn't on last night either after around 6 or so.....found out this morning there were TWO evening threads going....wonder how that happened. Confusing!

[n/t]

Morning Postie,

I hope you're right about the BH not bailing her out. Just the idea that he was thinking it made me want to pull my hair out.

I haven't heard any comments from the Anthonys regarding the chloro. They apparently went to see a high profile defense attorney yesterday from what I read on the boards.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning n/t and Postie. Last night I was so glad to hear Tim Miller narrow down the area in which he expects to find little Caylee to three miles. Still a large area to search, but hearing him say he will stay and search every square inch made my night. God bless him and all the volunteers.

I wonder what nugget LE will release today as the slow drip, drip, drip of incrimanating evidence is dropped on casey anthony.

I bet those compters are a wealth of information for LE.

Hi SS!!!

[n/t]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
Good morning all, I wasn't on last night either after around 6 or so.....found out this morning there were TWO evening threads going....wonder how that happened. Confusing! [/*]

I believe it was an error on her part. She thought the other thread was over 1000 posts but she was looking at the wrong thread or something like that.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning n/t and Postie. Last night I was so glad to hear Tim Miller narrow down the area in which he expects to find little Caylee to three miles. Still a large area to search, but hearing him say he will stay and search every square inch made my night. God bless him and all the volunteers.

I wonder what nugget LE will release today as the slow drip, drip, drip of incrimanating evidence is dropped on casey anthony.

I bet those compters are a wealth of information for LE.

Hi SS!!! [/*]

I pray they find her. :(

We know the defense will dispute the computer access. They'll try to pin this on someone else. They'll probably say someone else was looking up the chloro info. Zenaida? :rolleyes:

[tootie]

Is Padilla way out on a limb on this one?......http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

Sick thought. But I guess nothing would suprise me at this point.

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning n/t and Postie. Last night I was so glad to hear Tim Miller narrow down the area in which he expects to find little Caylee to three miles. Still a large area to search, but hearing him say he will stay and search every square inch made my night. God bless him and all the volunteers.

I wonder what nugget LE will release today as the slow drip, drip, drip of incrimanating evidence is dropped on casey anthony.

I bet those compters are a wealth of information for LE.

Hi SS!!! [/*]

Any chance the fired cop could have a part in this chloroform bit?
He was fired for not telling the truth, which I've wondered about.
I can't help but think there is more to that....

[cutiepatootie61]

Originally posted by tootie
Is Padilla way out on a limb on this one?......http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

Sick thought. But I guess nothing would suprise me at this point. [/*]

Oh dear, I can't believe he said that publicly.

[n/t]

Originally posted by tootie
Is Padilla way out on a limb on this one?......http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

Sick thought. But I guess nothing would suprise me at this point. [/*]

lol. He's been reading message boards. He throws any theory that's discussed on message boards out there and brings it to the media. It proves to me that he's just as clueless as we are when it comes to real evidence.

[tootie]

Yeah, Padilla fits in this family real well. They are all off their rockers.

[ilovemylife]

From my understanding Padilla said they may bail her out again IF and only IF she led them to Caylee and she was found whether it was dead or alive. If dead, they would most likely be filing murder charges and she would still not be able to be bailed out. Is that what anyone else got from it last nite?

I feel very strongly that they will be able to charge her with the murder. I really do. They have not disclosed all of the evidence they have. I believe they are just taking their time since she has all these charges already on her.

Tim also felt strongly that Caylees body is within a 3 mile radius. I really feel they will find all they need. Just hope my gut feeling is right. ---JMO

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Good morning n/t and Postie. Last night I was so glad to hear Tim Miller narrow down the area in which he expects to find little Caylee to three miles. Still a large area to search, but hearing him say he will stay and search every square inch made my night. God bless him and all the volunteers.

I wonder what nugget LE will release today as the slow drip, drip, drip of incrimanating evidence is dropped on casey anthony.

I bet those compters are a wealth of information for LE.

Hi SS!!!

Mornin' Scampi! And Mornin' SS and Cutie and Tootie and all that will follow.

:)

I won't have a lot of time to be on but I too was so happy and so relieved to hear Tim say he'll stay on, that LE had called him and I think that will help bring back people that will be willing to search.

****So if any of our guests reading that have an ATV, an airboat or a horse - they can sure use your help in the search.****

I think Tim is likely spot on with the radius- he's been doing this enough years as well as what LE thinks (and I've read as well that criminals tend to stay within their comfort zone).

I hope and pray that this week will finally be the week for Caylee to be recovered.

imo

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by n/t


lol. He's been reading message boards. He throws any theory that's discussed on message boards out there and brings it to the media. It proves to me that he's just as clueless as we are when it comes to real evidence.

However, on a CNNH interview (separate from the NG interview)- this is with oh shoot, forget his name, he's a nice looking guy that is a TH there-

they showed the segment again this morning - Padilla says that he speaks to Lee every day.

So- it could very well be that Lee is truly trying to work with many out there (and hopefully OSCO) to find his niece to at least have closure there.

imo

(I don't recall Lee ever getting ugly acting towards the reporters/media)

[Cookies]

http://www.local6.com/news/17383779/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news


""(Investigators) have to justify what they've done thus far," said Cindy Anthony, Casey Anthony's mother. "They've railroaded Casey from the very first day ... it's very evident."



A LOT of OTHER things are evident as well,DUH!!!:rolleyes:

[AMS]

Originally posted by tootie
Is Padilla way out on a limb on this one?......http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

Sick thought. But I guess nothing would suprise me at this point. [/*]


Oh Lord. Can't believe he made that statement.

I did send Padilla an email yestrday asking some questions about his dumpster comment on NG the night before. I didn't really expect an answer but I was still wound up about the Tuesday night NG show. Thought I'd give it a try. He has not responded.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Postergeist


However, on a CNNH interview (separate from the NG interview)- this is with oh shoot, forget his name, he's a nice looking guy that is a TH there-

they showed the segment again this morning - Padilla says that he speaks to Lee every day.

So- it could very well be that Lee is truly trying to work with many out there (and hopefully OSCO) to find his niece to at least have closure there.

imo

(I don't recall Lee ever getting ugly acting towards the reporters/media) [/*]

Did you read the article? He's alleging Lee is Caylee's daddy. That's what I meant regarding Leonard Padilla reading message boards. That's where the theory came from.

[ilovemylife]

Originally posted by Postergeist


However, on a CNNH interview (separate from the NG interview)- this is with oh shoot, forget his name, he's a nice looking guy that is a TH there-

they showed the segment again this morning - Padilla says that he speaks to Lee every day.

So- it could very well be that Lee is truly trying to work with many out there (and hopefully OSCO) to find his niece to at least have closure there.

imo

(I don't recall Lee ever getting ugly acting towards the reporters/media) [/*]



Padilla even said on NG last nite that he speaks to Lee daily, that Lee calls him daily wanting his sister bailed out of jail. IIRC

[jammies]

Morning all.


Missed all last night. I'm guessing nothing earthshattering happened?


Pray today that Tim finds Caylee and puts an end to this nightmare.

[n/t]

Originally posted by ViennaGal


N/T when I was looking over the new warrant docs yesterday one of the checks on the list for which the new charges are for was written at a Winn Dixie. That may explain the groceries. She also seemed to be a very loyal Target shopper. I do not have the link for that at home but it was posted on the links thread. I also recall in Tony's interview with police he said she seemed to enjoy cooking for him. I agree 150% on the BH and am hoping someone whacks him in the head before he makes another HUGE mistake. This girl will nevere talk. I believe it is here....

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0903/17382646.pdf [/*]

The thought of her grocery shopping right after she killed and dumped her daughter's body makes me want to throw up. This girl has no conscience!:flamemad:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by n/t


I pray they find her. :(

We know the defense will dispute the computer access. They'll try to pin this on someone else. They'll probably say someone else was looking up the chloro info. Zenaida? :rolleyes: [/*]

I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO.

[desmom]

Good Morning!

The first time Padilla bailed her out, he was expecting her to talk.

This time, he will not bail her out until after she talks.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7356123&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

The condition is that Casey has to tell investigators where Caylee's body is, and if she complies and cooperates with them, he will repost the bond, allowing Casey to remain free while she awaits trial.

jmo

[n/t]

Originally posted by Cookies
http://www.local6.com/news/17383779/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news


""(Investigators) have to justify what they've done thus far," said Cindy Anthony, Casey Anthony's mother. "They've railroaded Casey from the very first day ... it's very evident."



A LOT of OTHER things are evident as well,DUH!!!:rolleyes: [/*]

Someone should tell Cindy that the evidence is evident. When will she start accepting reality. I don't think consulting with defense attorneys will do her any good. She should be getting some serious psychological help. God knows she needs it. Who wouldn't after their grandbaby was murdered by the hands of her own mother.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by n/t


Did you read the article? He's alleging Lee is Caylee's daddy. That's what I meant regarding Leonard Padilla reading message boards. That's where the theory came from. [/*]

:eek: I read it but didn't quite understand what he was saying. Thanks for clarifying. I am JUST on the first cup of coffee this morning. ;)

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by ViennaGal


N/T when I was looking over the new warrant docs yesterday one of the checks on the list for which the new charges are for was written at a Winn Dixie. That may explain the groceries. She also seemed to be a very loyal Target shopper. I do not have the link for that at home but it was posted on the links thread. I also recall in Tony's interview with police he said she seemed to enjoy cooking for him. I agree 150% on the BH and am hoping someone whacks him in the head before he makes another HUGE mistake. This girl will nevere talk. I believe it is here....

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0903/17382646.pdf [/*]

Amy's check that was written to Winn Dixie occurred AFTER Casey abandoned the car. That check wasn't written until after 7/9 and Casey abandoned the car on 6/27.

Someone did mention yesterday that there was a Winn Dixie next to Amscot (I believe she did most of her check cashing/grocery shopping in that area ;) )

Also, the NG producer says that Tony picked her up late that morning, but the Amscot people say the car was left a 7 a.m. Also, worth mentioning, LP said yesterday that Casey at first called Jesse G to pick her up and he either couldn't or wouldn't. Wonder who else she called before finally calling Tony?

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO. [/*]

I completely agree with you. This hearing will be so up in arms, I am not sure that I can take watching it. BUT I WILL! ;)

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO. [/*]

And then you've got Kobilinsky throwing around that it's a byproduct of DNA extraction.

:rolleyes:

I want to throw things at him.

[Cookies]

http://www.local6.com/news/17383779/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

Miller also said he is furious with Cindy Anthony.

"I'm pissed off," Miller said. "I feel as though we have been used in this and we are not getting any cooperation. We have done everything Cindy Anthony has asked us to do."

Miller said Cindy Anthony wants him to believe Caylee is still alive.

"(Cindy) wants me to find her granddaughter alive," Miller said. "Guess what, I don't believe she is alive."


:patriot:

[Cookies]

http://www.local6.com/news/17383779/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

"I don't need grandma's help in this," Miller said. "I don't need (Cindy's) help."

:beer:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning all,

Give me one good reason why the Bounty Hunter wants to bail her out again. Please. Cuz I'm just not getting it. I really don't. It didn't work the first time. Why in the world would he think it'll work now. She denied the limited immunity deal, her attorney doesn't want her talking to anyone!!

This is new to me. I don't know what to make of it. She had groceries? She went grocery shopping? Also, wouldn't Tony smell decomp on her if we assume the car smelled like a dead body was in it? Gosh this case will drive me insane.




http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/03/ng.01.html

Caylee:rose: [/*]

There will be no bail with that condition because IF she would tell him where Caylee is if she knows she would be rearrested for murder. Just more lip service from Lenny IMO.

As far as Tony why is he lying? He said "Late that morning"??........ when the car was there at 7:30 AM? If the car was that stinky from decomp Casey, her clother fresh or not, they would still have to have been in the stinky car, her hair even the groceries would have had an odor.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by n/t


Did you read the article? He's alleging Lee is Caylee's daddy. That's what I meant regarding Leonard Padilla reading message boards. That's where the theory came from. [/*]

That and the "Zanny the Nanny" books.

[Mairi II]

The chloroform-in-the-trunk doesn't rattle me in and of itself. There could be other explanations for it, however improbable. When you couple that, though, with the computer searches - well that's a little too much. There's no reason for someone to have chloraform in its pure form that I can think of.

Cindy will say it's the result of a wet diaper and bleach or cleaning stuff. Or maybe something to do with her nursing activities.

[trich]

Yes Padilla said he would bail Casey out but only if she told where Caylee is and they did find her.
He said he would bond her out while she awaits trial.
I was under the impression she had to lead them to finding Caylee first before he would do this.

If that worked and she told them where Caylee is and they find her I am all for it.
But only if she is under surveilence while she is out.
That is what I heard....now it is another story if he would hold true and make her tell first before he posted bond.

[ellegna]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO. [/*]

I usually watch NG in it's entirety but I couldn't yesterday. Every time one of those lawyers piped up I left the room.
What's up with Koblinsky? (sp?) Is he auditioning for Casey's forensic expert if she's charged with murder and goes to trial?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Amy's check that was written to Winn Dixie occurred AFTER Casey abandoned the car. That check wasn't written until after 7/9 and Casey abandoned the car on 6/27.

Someone did mention yesterday that there was a Winn Dixie next to Amscot (I believe she did most of her check cashing/grocery shopping in that area ;) )

Also, the NG producer says that Tony picked her up late that morning, but the Amscot people say the car was left a 7 a.m. Also, worth mentioning, LP said yesterday that Casey at first called Jesse G to pick her up and he either couldn't or wouldn't. Wonder who else she called before finally calling Tony? [/*]

I also did notice those strange little discrepancies (your last paragraph). :confused:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by ilovemylife




Padilla even said on NG last nite that he speaks to Lee daily, that Lee calls him daily wanting his sister bailed out of jail. IIRC [/*]

Hopefully, Lee is also talking to Baez and casey, stressing to them that if casey tells them where she put Caylee's body, then the state may go easier on her, by not filing first degree murder charges. I think that window of opportunity still exists as long as that little girl's body isn't found.

Doubtful casey will make such a deal, not with Cynthia and George backing up her outrageous lies.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by ellegna


I usually watch NG in it's entirety but I couldn't yesterday. Every time one of those lawyers piped up I left the room.
What's up with Koblinsky? (sp?) Is he auditioning for Casey's forensic expert if she's charged with murder and goes to trial? [/*]

He admitted night before last that he had been contacted by Baez.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


And then you've got Kobilinsky throwing around that it's a byproduct of DNA extraction.

:rolleyes:

I want to throw things at him. [/*]

I have a crossbow, suction cup dart gun I use on the TV during football games. Wanna borrow it for Koblinsky?

He sure is changing his tune and I am so glad that NG called him on it last night! Made him stutter a little bit.

[Cookies]

Originally posted by Mairi II
The chloraform-in-the-trunk doesn't rattle me in and of itself. There could be other explanations for it, however improbable. When you couple that, though, with the computer searches - well that's a little too much. There's no reason for someone to have chloraform in its pure form that I can think of.

Cindy will say result it's the result of a wet diaper and bleach or cleaning stuff. Or maybe something to do with her nursing activities. [/*]

Don't they usually use it in movies to put people to sleep?:shrug:
Maybe she needed poor Caylee to be quiet while she was partying?Just a thought............................IMo:shrug:

[n/t]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO. [/*]

Not just the defense attorneys but Dr. K? Bleach and alchohol? So someone poured bleach and then dumped a bottle of wine on it to cause the chloroform just for the heck of it? Oh sure that makes a lot of sense.

If this case ever goes to trial, I may have to quit my job. lol.

[Mairi II]

Originally posted by ellegna


I usually watch NG in it's entirety but I couldn't yesterday. Every time one of those lawyers piped up I left the room.
What's up with Koblinsky? (sp?) Is he auditioning for Casey's forensic expert if she's charged with murder and goes to trial? [/*]

I got the same impression about Kobilinsky, ellegna.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Mairi II
The chloraform-in-the-trunk doesn't rattle me in and of itself. There could be other explanations for it, however improbable. When you couple that, though, with the computer searches - well that's a little too much. There's no reason for someone to have chloraform in its pure form that I can think of.

Cindy will say it's the result of a wet diaper and bleach or cleaning stuff. Or maybe something to do with her nursing activities. [/*]

I sure wouldn't buy any story having to do with "nursing activities." I've read enough comments on boards from nurses that they have NOTHING to do with chloroform whatsoever. Chloroform is a thing of the past.

The one thing that makes me pause though is someone (forget who) on NG last night is the real oddness/curiosity of IF Casey premeditated the death of Caylee, WHY in the world would she pick such a strange substance as chloroform. To me, that's a good little nagging point.

[Mairi II]

Originally posted by Cookies


Don't they usually use it in movies to put people to sleep?:shrug:
Maybe she needed poor Caylee to be quiet while she was partying?Just a thought............................IMo:shrug: [/*]

Whatever they use it for, it isn't good. :(

[spiritwolf46]

Does anyone know if the hearing today will be on TV or online?

TIA!

[cassidy]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I sure wouldn't buy any story having to do with "nursing activities." I've read enough comments on boards from nurses that they have NOTHING to do with chloroform whatsoever. Chloroform is a thing of the past.

The one thing that makes me pause though is someone (forget who) on NG last night is the real oddness/curiosity of IF Casey premeditated the death of Caylee, WHY in the world would she pick such a strange substance as chloroform. To me, that's a good little nagging point. [/*]

Just speculating. Because someone she knows makes meth? And it was easy to get there? And no one is going to report her for stealing it?
:shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I sure wouldn't buy any story having to do with "nursing activities." I've read enough comments on boards from nurses that they have NOTHING to do with chloroform whatsoever. Chloroform is a thing of the past.

The one thing that makes me pause though is someone (forget who) on NG last night is the real oddness/curiosity of IF Casey premeditated the death of Caylee, WHY in the world would she pick such a strange substance as chloroform. To me, that's a good little nagging point. [/*]

Because she's lazy. Chloroform doesn't involve actual physical labor, or when using on a toddler no real risk of a fight.

:shrug:

That would be my guess.

[day2day]

Originally posted by n/t


lol. He's been reading message boards. He throws any theory that's discussed on message boards out there and brings it to the media. It proves to me that he's just as clueless as we are when it comes to real evidence. [/*]

Mornin n/t..
I agree I think this case will drive us all crazy. I haven't ever met a family like the Anthony's!! As for Lenny...he has been eatin too many of Casey's brownies. jmo

[Cookies]

Originally posted by Mairi II


Whatever they use it for, it isn't good. :( [/*]

I know,I know,but that's the only situation where I heard of it being used.In movies when the bad guy wants to kidnap the girl and puts her to sleep with it.:o

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Because she's lazy. Chloroform doesn't involve actual physical labor, or when using on a toddler no real risk of a fight.

:shrug:

That would be my guess. [/*]

But she could have done the exact same thing with many other more common substances, it seems. :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by cassidy


Just speculating. Because someone she knows makes meth? And it was easy to get there? And no one is going to report her for stealing it?
:shrug: [/*]

Did we ever find out it is used in the manufacture of meth? (I was offline most of last night.) Frankly I don't see her as a meth user.

[n/t]

Originally posted by desmom
Good Morning!

The first time Padilla bailed her out, he was expecting her to talk.

This time, he will not bail her out until after she talks.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7356123&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1



jmo [/*]

Thanks for the link desmom. His condition makes absolutely no sense. If Casey tells him where Caylee's body is that would mean she's admitting she was involved with disposing of Caylee and she wouldn't need to be bailed out, she'd be facing murder charges.

He's delusional, imo.

[cassidy]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


But she could have done the exact same thing with many other more common substances, it seems. :shrug: [/*]

Maybe because she saw it used on TV. Place the cloth over the nose and mouth for a few seconds, the person is knocked out. Fast,easy way to put the kid to sleep? Then on to party time. :shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


But she could have done the exact same thing with many other more common substances, it seems. :shrug: [/*]

Well, that's our Casey! It's gotta be dramatic all the way!

:D

(Seriously, not too many common substances can/will produce "instant death" in small quantities IMO)

But then again, what "common substances" are you thinking about?

:eek:

*runs to medicine cabinet*

[ellegna]

Originally posted by Mairi II
The chloroform-in-the-trunk doesn't rattle me in and of itself. There could be other explanations for it, however improbable. When you couple that, though, with the computer searches - well that's a little too much. There's no reason for someone to have chloraform in its pure form that I can think of.

Cindy will say it's the result of a wet diaper and bleach or cleaning stuff. Or maybe something to do with her nursing activities. [/*]

ITA
Also
As a nurse...Cindy should know wet diapers produce ammonia not chloroform. I've used bleach to clean out the diaper bin and don't recall any unusual odor or passing out.

[cassidy]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Did we ever find out it is used in the manufacture of meth? (I was offline most of last night.) Frankly I don't see her as a meth user. [/*]

I don't either. But she could know some users.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to start.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Well, that's our Casey! It's gotta be dramatic all the way!

:D

(Seriously, not too many common substances can/will produce "instant death" in small quantities IMO)

But then again, what "common substances" are you thinking about?

:eek:

*runs to medicine cabinet* [/*]

LOL.

I don't know. All I know is I'm more confused than ever this morning.

[Velouria]

Originally posted by n/t


lol. He's been reading message boards. He throws any theory that's discussed on message boards out there and brings it to the media. It proves to me that he's just as clueless as we are when it comes to real evidence. [/*]

He's as clueless as we are? You are giving Lenny waaaaay too much credit there, n/t. :D

Just when I start to have a little sympathy for him (I believe he was privy to the chloroform info, hence the "news that will shock the world" comment on NG) he has to go and spoil it with another attack of his now infamous foot-in-mouth disease...

Good morning everyone, btw. :)

[day2day]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Does anyone know if the hearing today will be on TV or online?

TIA! [/*]

Great question Spirit... I hope it is. Does channel 9 usually carry it?

[kellabeck]

Originally posted by desmom
The first time Padilla bailed her out, he was expecting her to talk.
This time, he will not bail her out until after she talks.
SNIP [/*]

Then I guess he won't be bailing her out.

Good morning!

[day2day]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Did we ever find out it is used in the manufacture of meth? (I was offline most of last night.) Frankly I don't see her as a meth user. [/*]

Mornin Savannah

Some Common Meth Ingredients Alcohol -
Gasoline additives/Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters
Iodine crystals
http://www.mappsd.org/Meth%20Ingredients.htm

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


And then you've got Kobilinsky throwing around that it's a byproduct of DNA extraction.

:rolleyes:

I want to throw things at him. [/*]

He did, but now without the full, nostril flaring wrath of Her Graceness raining down on him:

GRACE: OK. Dr. Kobilinsky, can you give me one innocent explanation why chloroform would be in someone`s trunk? And they said chloroform. They did not say a pool cleaner. They did not say a solvent. They said the ingredient chloroform had been found in mom, Casey`s, car trunk. Why?

KOBILINSKY: That`s a very tough question. There are instances where chloroform can form as a result of a combination of bleach and ethanol or other alcohols. It could be a very small amount. We need to know how much was found. And also, we need to know if it was simply a contaminant that was picked up on this test, a contaminant, meaning...

GRACE: Whoa! Whoa! Let me see Kobilinsky! Are you telling me that you want to see if the FBI laboratory contaminated a sample from mom, Casey`s, car trunk with chloroform? Did I -- did I -- please hold onto your good reputation~!

KOBILINSKY: OK. Chloroform is a very commonly used agent in crime labs. And I don`t think that the FBI made a mistake, but to err is human. The FBI has made mistakes before. I`m not saying they did in this case.

GRACE: Why are you doing a back bend tonight? You did it last night, too.

KOBILINSKY: No. No, I didn`t do a back bend.

GRACE: You`re doing a back bend to try to give an innocent explanation for something that is lethal, that is deadly!

KOBILINSKY: It certainly -- I agree with you. It does not look -- there`s no innocent explanation that I can think of, other than a contaminant or that it may have formed, you know, as a result of bleach and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/03/ng.01.html

According to Kobilinsky, I can see the defense saying the forensic lab was sloppy with their dna testing and that's why the got a positive chloroform result.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by day2day


Great question Spirit... I hope it is. Does channel 9 usually carry it? [/*]

Morning day2day! :seeya:

I hope they will. This should be interesting. How in the world is she going to make a not guilty plea? The goods are on her. I am just curious as to how Baez will handle this one.

[jammies]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Because she's lazy. Chloroform doesn't involve actual physical labor, or when using on a toddler no real risk of a fight.

:shrug:

That would be my guess. [/*]


I see her using it to put Caylee out so she could party.
On the other hand, killing with chloroform sounds like something a female would do. Clean, quiet and the victim just stops breathing.

[n/t]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I sure wouldn't buy any story having to do with "nursing activities." I've read enough comments on boards from nurses that they have NOTHING to do with chloroform whatsoever. Chloroform is a thing of the past.

The one thing that makes me pause though is someone (forget who) on NG last night is the real oddness/curiosity of IF Casey premeditated the death of Caylee, WHY in the world would she pick such a strange substance as chloroform. To me, that's a good little nagging point. [/*]

I agree. It's nagging at me too. Why chloroform? The only thing I can think of is, it's quicker? :(

Would there be any trace of chloroform if her body is found?

Sigh, just typing it out makes me so angry and sad. Poor Caylee.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by jammies



I see her using it to put Caylee out so she could party.
On the other hand, killing with chloroform sounds like something a female would do. Clean, quiet and the victim just stops breathing. [/*]

Makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand straight up, doesn't it? :cuss:

[cassidy]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand straight up, doesn't it? :cuss: [/*]

This case has given me the creeps since I heard Cindy's 3rd 911 call.

[Velouria]

Originally posted by desmom
Good Morning!

The first time Padilla bailed her out, he was expecting her to talk.

This time, he will not bail her out until after she talks.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7356123&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1



jmo [/*]

I'm seriously beginning to doubt there's grey matter under that :hat: of his. If he thought Casey posed a security risk BEFORE she was rearrested, imagine the commotion that will ensue when an admitted baby-killer is free on bond? Or does he think that far ahead?

[Mairi II]

Originally posted by day2day


Mornin Savannah

Some Common Meth Ingredients Alcohol -
Gasoline additives/Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters
Iodine crystals
http://www.mappsd.org/Meth%20Ingredients.htm [/*]

Now that's really interesting. I figured she was hooking or "escorting" for money (besides ripping her folks and friends off) when she was gone during the day. Hmmmmmmmmm......

[jammies]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Makes the hairs on the back of the neck stand straight up, doesn't it? :cuss: [/*]



yes. She also may have given her too much ACCIDENTLY, thus the "flurry of calls".

I don't know that I believe that though.........she never showed any remorse and went right on partying as if all was well.

Heartless, soul-less witch.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Did we ever find out it is used in the manufacture of meth? (I was offline most of last night.) Frankly I don't see her as a meth user. [/*]

No, me either. Not with that beautiful complexion and gorgeous teeth. She could have been a seller tho. I bet there is a drug connection somewhere in all of this.

Perhaps that is the nugget of truth in the fear factor. She knows she better keep her trap shut on who gave her the chloroform, especially if it's a drug ring for meth.

[day2day]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Morning day2day! :seeya:

I hope they will. This should be interesting. How in the world is she going to make a not guilty plea? The goods are on her. I am just curious as to how Baez will handle this one. [/*]

I think the walls are closing in on Princess Casey. A charge here..a little charge there! I don't think Baez will be with her much longer. Time for a bigger attorney. JMO
:seeya:

[day2day]

Originally posted by Mairi II


Now that's really interesting. I figured she was hooking or "escorting" for money (besides ripping her folks and friends off) when she was gone during the day. Hmmmmmmmmm...... [/*]

That trunk was a busy place. A mobile meth lab? A place for her to store her littleone :(..

Who really knows with Casey. This girl is evil..imo

[Mairi II]

I think the cops are just waiting to charge her with murder because they feel Baez will invoke the "speedy trial" right. They're just building and building and building so they could be ready if he does.

[spageddy]

Good morning faithful posters :seeya:
And good morning to you too, Lenny :D
Just getting up. I fell asleep just after NG said "Goodnight friend".
Have there been any comments from the Anthony's about the chloro? That seems to be a mighty strange way to knock out your own 2 y.o. IMO. It's not like in the old movies when someone sneaks up on a victim with a rag soaked in the stuff. Jeeps! it's a 2 yo kid. Why use something like chloroform and go through all that trouble to get it? Anybody else she might have been thinking about knocking out?
Big stuff woll be happening today I think. Seems like pieces are falling into place.
Have a good day everyone. you too Lenny.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
<snip>
Also, the NG producer says that Tony picked her up late that morning, but the Amscot people say the car was left a 7 a.m. Also, worth mentioning, LP said yesterday that Casey at first called Jesse G to pick her up and he either couldn't or wouldn't. Wonder who else she called before finally calling Tony? [/*]

Hi ya cry- I was a little confused about the 2 calls discussion.

It almost sounded as tho after Tony L. went on vacation (this would've been *after* he picked up Casey from the Amscot) that Casey then called Jesse to have him take her to get her car??

And the impression was that he declined to help her then.


:shrug:

imo

[n/t]

Originally posted by Velouria


He's as clueless as we are? You are giving Lenny waaaaay too much credit there, n/t. :D

Just when I start to have a little sympathy for him (I believe he was privy to the chloroform info, hence the "news that will shock the world" comment on NG) he has to go and spoil it with another attack of his now infamous foot-in-mouth disease...

Good morning everyone, btw. :) [/*]

I meant no offense to the wonderful posters here. He's as clueless as we are when it comes to evidence LE has and we can be sure they have way more than Leonard or any of us are even aware of. I doubt LE is giving Leonard daily briefings of the evidence they have. lol

[~jomomma~]

Well, I wonder what's going to happen today!!!

i'm going to try to get some stuff done early this morning so i can be here for any news.

i haven't gotten much done the last 2 days :o

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by cassidy


This case has given me the creeps since I heard Cindy's 3rd 911 call. [/*]

Me, too, cassidy. I remember the first time that I saw Cindy on NG. SHE gave me the creeps way back then! There was just something that did not add up with her.

Did you see the one elderly lady giving Cindy he77 outside their home? She was telling Cindy what Cindy said during the 911 calls about their being a dead body smell. She basically (paraphrasing) told Cindy that SHE knew there was a body in that trunk. Cindy replied like a kid with her hand caught in a cookie jar...she told this woman "I did not". That was it! It was so weird!

[spageddy]

Originally posted by Mairi II
I think the cops are just waiting to charge her with murder because they feel Baez will invoke the "speedy trial" right. They're just building and building and building so they could be ready if he does. [/*]

Yup . I agree.
And I agree with your sig too :D !

[trich]

Originally posted by n/t


Thanks for the link desmom. His condition makes absolutely no sense. If Casey tells him where Caylee's body is that would mean she's admitting she was involved with disposing of Caylee and she wouldn't need to be bailed out, she'd be facing murder charges.

He's delusional, imo. [/*]


Yes she would be facing murder charges but most likely still get a chance at bail and he was offering her freedom sort of speak while waiting for her trial.
I don't thnk she will ever admit to what she has done.
I don't believe she would admit it even if she was given a get out of jail free card.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by jammies




yes. She also may have given her too much ACCIDENTLY, thus the "flurry of calls".

I don't know that I believe that though.........she never showed any remorse and went right on partying as if all was well.

Heartless, soul-less witch. [/*]

ITA!!!! This is the strangest case I have ever seen in my MANY years on this earth.

GOD please bring Caylee home today.

:rose: For CAYLEE, Tim Miller and his searchers

[n/t]

Originally posted by Mairi II
I think the cops are just waiting to charge her with murder because they feel Baez will invoke the "speedy trial" right. They're just building and building and building so they could be ready if he does. [/*]

Good point.

Off to work. Have a good day everyone!

[jammies]

Originally posted by n/t


Good point.

Off to work. Have a good day everyone! [/*]


You too, n/t. We will hold down the fort. Hurry back!

[day2day]

Originally posted by n/t


Good point.

Off to work. Have a good day everyone! [/*]

Have a great day n/t. :seeya:

[onedarksun]

question regrading the search - I do not remember if it was on todays thread or the chloroform thread - but does anyone have additional info regarding the search area being a 3 mile area - or where it is - or why they have determined a certain 3 miile area?

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by trich



Yes she would be facing murder charges but most likely still get a chance at bail and he was offering her freedom sort of speak while waiting for her trial.
I don't thnk she will ever admit to what she has done.
I don't believe she would admit it even if she was given a get out of jail free card. [/*]

There would be no bail for a murder charge. Ye gads the bail for child meglect was 500,000.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by day2day

<snip>


Some Common Meth Ingredients Alcohol -
Gasoline additives/Rubbing Alcohol

Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline


hmmm- okay- she stole the gas

(and it seems this was a habit- didn't the parents says she has stolen gas "before")

{granted, there was also the 'reason' that her gas gauge was defective- but could also be a convenient reason}

Kobi mentions "ethanol" but in line with alcoholic beverages

but I thought ethanol is also an additive IN gas-

so maybe Casey really is Ms. Science Wiz

imo

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by onedarksun
question regrading the search - I do not remember if it was on todays thread or the chloroform thread - but does anyone have additional info regarding the search area being a 3 mile area - or where it is - or why they have determined a certain 3 miile area? [/*]

Tim Miller mentioned the three mile grid search area and is working off information supplied to him by LE more then likely based on the cell phone information. As far as I know, it's out by the airport.

[kOOkie1]

..I just love the way it seems everytime Cindy opens her mouth with spin, LE comes back the next day or so with more information..Love that!! I even think peeps here said that after the NG show on Tues. we would hear something yesterday. LE knows exactly what they are doing and they will not be out-smarted by the Anthony's. (jmo)

[Cookies]

Originally posted by kOOkie1
..I just love the way it seems everytime Cindy opens her mouth with spin, LE comes back the next day or so with more information..Love that!! I even think peeps here said that after the NG show on Tues. we would hear something yesterday. LE knows exactly what they are doing and they will not be out-smarted by the Anthony's. (jmo) [/*]

ITA

[day2day]

Webcam outside of jail
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by kOOkie1
..I just love the way it seems everytime Cindy opens her mouth with spin, LE comes back the next day or so with more information..Love that!! I even think peeps here said that after the NG show on Tues. we would hear something yesterday. LE knows exactly what they are doing and they will not be out-smarted by the Anthony's. (jmo) [/*]

i agree kookie!!! :seeya:

[day2day]

Originally posted by Postergeist


hmmm- okay- she stole the gas

(and it seems this was a habit- didn't the parents says she has stolen gas "before")

{granted, there was also the 'reason' that her gas gauge was defective- but could also be a convenient reason}

Kobi mentions "ethanol" but in line with alcoholic beverages

but I thought ethanol is also an additive IN gas-

so maybe Casey really is Ms. Science Wiz

imo [/*]

LOL@Ms. Science Wiz. I was thinking she was running out of friends/grandparents to steal checks off of so she had to move on to bigger and better things :shrug: jmo

[~jomomma~]

what IS suppose to happen today??

i read C & G were going to visit Casey.

is there a hearing?

sorry for asking, but for what?

i'm feeling so lost :o

[trich]

People ha ve been given bail for murder charges although it is usually outrageous and most can not come up with the amount .
Remember in the is country we are suppose to be presumed innocent ......Yeah right!
I am not saying that the judge would allow it but it has been done before...even NG mentioned that last night.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by day2day
Webcam outside of jail
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html [/*]

LOL! You guys crack me up with the webcam! But now, I have to go to it! ;)

Thanks day2day!

[trich]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~
what IS suppose to happen today??

i read C & G were going to visit Casey.

is there a hearing?

sorry for asking, but for what?

i'm feeling so lost :o [/*]

It was stated that Cindy and George would not be visiting since Casey has to appear at the hearing for the new charges.

Whether that is true or not I have no clue ..it is just what I read.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by kOOkie1
..I just love the way it seems everytime Cindy opens her mouth with spin, LE comes back the next day or so with more information..Love that!! I even think peeps here said that after the NG show on Tues. we would hear something yesterday. LE knows exactly what they are doing and they will not be out-smarted by the Anthony's. (jmo) [/*]

ITA!

[Eli]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


I am under the impression that it was the home laptop that contained the chloroform searches, so that is going to narrow down the access question quite a bit.

I can see Cynthia's brain going into overdrive coming up with an innocent excuse for doing a search for chloroform right now.

Watching Nancy Grace and seeing all those defense attorneys offering up their ridiculous reasons for chloroform being in the trunk was just a taste of what this trial will look like. It's going to make spector and scott peterson look like exercises in common sense. IMO. [/*]

good morning..

i believe that Casey wanted to put Caylee to sleep in the car with the chloroform while she went out dancing which is why she checked it out on the lap top computer.... I dont think she intended to kill her. Caylee was probably killed accidentally by the chloroform and possibly the heat in the car while her mother went to party. There is also a possibility that Casey intentionally put Caylee in the trunk of the car after chloroforming her and wanted her to die there. (where Casey would not see her die)

bless Caylee...

:(

[joypath]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Oh dear, I can't believe he said that publicly. [/*]


"“The Feds released information that the hair was either the mother’s or the daughter’s; they didn’t distinguish,” Padilla said. “Why would they not know whether it was the daughter or the mother? They didn’t say it was Caylee’s'"

IMO....> LP might have been absent the day mDNA was discussed in BH school, 'cause that's the best reason why analytical evaluation of hair minus the root could not provide definite ownership.

"Padilla said that officials ruled it was Caylee’s hair just by a process of elimination because the hair had a death ring around it and they know Casey is alive. The fact that the DNA is identical has something to do with who the father is, Padilla said.
Would the DNA from a child resulting from a union from Lee and Casey have basically the same characteristics? Making the preliminary DNA check not definitive as to who the hair samples are from,” he said. "

IMO again he missed another day of BH school! IF the root were present, the nDNA would provide indicators of both parents.


http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

[Ms. Monk]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


I have a crossbow, suction cup dart gun I use on the TV during football games. Wanna borrow it for Koblinsky?

He sure is changing his tune and I am so glad that NG called him on it last night! Made him stutter a little bit. [/*]

Koblinsky = SELLOUT!:flamemad:

I thought so highly of him till the past two NG's, where he is obviously backpedaling and throwing out a bunch of BS since he's been in contact with Baez.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~
what IS suppose to happen today??

i read C & G were going to visit Casey.

is there a hearing?

sorry for asking, but for what?

i'm feeling so lost :o [/*]

The visit was put off after the new charges were announced IIRC. Not sure if it was rescheduled from it's original 9:00 a.m. time slot.

She will make a court appearance at 8:30 a.m., it'll be just like the one on Saturday.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by jammies


yes. She also may have given her too much ACCIDENTLY, thus the "flurry of calls".

I don't know that I believe that though.........she never showed any remorse and went right on partying as if all was well.

Heartless, soul-less witch.

yanno jammies- I am just soooo happy that she didn't "lose" her laptop

like she "lost" her cell phone

like she 'misplaced' her daughter with 'someone she trusted'

I hope any and everything on her hard drive that can be used in court gets entered in.

And about those flurry of calls- maybe once she couldn't reach her parents

it was just another "oh well" to her-

(something like - well they didn't answer, so it's their fault- I tried, and they all know about my mistrust of police)

imo

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by trich


It was stated that Cindy and George would not be visiting since Casey has to appear at the hearing for the new charges.

Whether that is true or not I have no clue ..it is just what I read. [/*]

ahhhh, ok, thanks!

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by Ms. Monk


Koblinsky = SELLOUT!:flamemad:

I thought so highly of him till the past two NG's, where he is obviously backpedaling and throwing out a bunch of BS since he's been in contact with Baez. [/*]

Yep! I wonder if he does testify for the defense, if they can use all the NG episodes before he chatted with Baez? That should shut him up!

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


He did, but now without the full, nostril flaring wrath of Her Graceness raining down on him:

GRACE: OK. Dr. Kobilinsky, can you give me one innocent explanation why chloroform would be in someone`s trunk? And they said chloroform. They did not say a pool cleaner. They did not say a solvent. They said the ingredient chloroform had been found in mom, Casey`s, car trunk. Why?

KOBILINSKY: That`s a very tough question. There are instances where chloroform can form as a result of a combination of bleach and ethanol or other alcohols. It could be a very small amount. We need to know how much was found. And also, we need to know if it was simply a contaminant that was picked up on this test, a contaminant, meaning...

GRACE: Whoa! Whoa! Let me see Kobilinsky! Are you telling me that you want to see if the FBI laboratory contaminated a sample from mom, Casey`s, car trunk with chloroform? Did I -- did I -- please hold onto your good reputation~!

KOBILINSKY: OK. Chloroform is a very commonly used agent in crime labs. And I don`t think that the FBI made a mistake, but to err is human. The FBI has made mistakes before. I`m not saying they did in this case.

GRACE: Why are you doing a back bend tonight? You did it last night, too.

KOBILINSKY: No. No, I didn`t do a back bend.

GRACE: You`re doing a back bend to try to give an innocent explanation for something that is lethal, that is deadly!

KOBILINSKY: It certainly -- I agree with you. It does not look -- there`s no innocent explanation that I can think of, other than a contaminant or that it may have formed, you know, as a result of bleach and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/03/ng.01.html

According to Kobilinsky, I can see the defense saying the forensic lab was sloppy with their dna testing and that's why the got a positive chloroform result. [/*]

"... nostril flaring wrath of Her Graceness raining down on him.."

:lol:

[day2day]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


LOL! You guys crack me up with the webcam! But now, I have to go to it! ;)

Thanks day2day! [/*]

:D LOL....I just had to post it. I bet Cindy is happy its not outside her house anymore..

[concernedmom]

LE has a reason for leaking these little tidbits one at a time.
We know she googled chloraform but we dont know if she purchased it.
Maybe we will or maybe we wont until trial.
My question is if she purchased it with Cindy's cc, wont Cindy be in trouble or possibly arrested for purchasing an illegal substance since she is responsible for her cc?

[Ckrdpast]

they just stated that they will be carrying casey in court at around 8:30




http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html

[Eli]

Originally posted by concernedmom
LE has a reason for leaking these little tidbits one at a time.
We know she googled chloraform but we dont know if she purchased it.
Maybe we will or maybe we wont until trial.
My question is if she purchased it with Cindy's cc, wont Cindy be in trouble or possibly arrested for purchasing an illegal substance since she is responsible for her cc? [/*]

good point.....

[ellegna]

Originally posted by day2day


LOL@Ms. Science Wiz. I was thinking she was running out of friends/grandparents to steal checks off of so she had to move on to bigger and better things :shrug: jmo [/*]

A thought just came to mind.
Has anyone asked or mentioned whether there was a life insurance policy issued for Caylee?

[Lynden1000]

Originally posted by tootie
Is Padilla way out on a limb on this one?......http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

Sick thought. But I guess nothing would suprise me at this point. [/*]

Wow, the Bounty Hunter read my post from a few weeks back! :D

I mentioned that I thought it was a bit hinky that "Caylee" sounds like a cross between Casey and Lee.

Now before anyone flames me, I wouldn't give it a second thought if we were talking about a conventional family here. I've known plenty of people who named a child after a family member. It just seems strange in the context of this particular family, especially given the strange doubletalk about the identity of the father.

[wingsgirl24]

Hmmm...maybe the FBI also looked up chloroform on Casey's computer! GRRRR Just when i thought it could not get ANY stranger...and it sure looks like Lenny's been reading this board...info that's been posted here coming out of his mouth weeks later. ODD

[Ms. Monk]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Yep! I wonder if he does testify for the defense, if they can use all the NG episodes before he chatted with Baez? That should shut him up! [/*]

Am I the only one who was yelling at the tv last night while he hemmed and hawed trying to somehow imply the the FBI screwed up with their testing, yet just last week he was singing quite a different tune? This is for Dr. K - hammer

For Caylee - a prayer that she will be brought to justice soon!:rose:

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
they just stated that they will be carrying casey in court at around 8:30




http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html [/*]

Thank you SO much! :seeya:

[Mairi II]

Originally posted by concernedmom
LE has a reason for leaking these little tidbits one at a time.
We know she googled chloraform but we dont know if she purchased it.
Maybe we will or maybe we wont until trial.
My question is if she purchased it with Cindy's cc, wont Cindy be in trouble or possibly arrested for purchasing an illegal substance since she is responsible for her cc? [/*]

Unless it was Cindy who did the ordering, I don't think they could get her for it.

That just made me think: Didn't Casey use her own grandma's check routing information (from a birthday check) to order something online? Another hmmmmmmm.........

[day2day]

Originally posted by ellegna


A thought just came to mind.
Has anyone asked or mentioned whether there was a life insurance policy issued for Caylee? [/*]

Great question ellegna. I have NO clue if there was a life insurance policy ...!! When I get to the office I will send out a few emails and see if i can get an answer!!

[day2day]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Thank you SO much! :seeya: [/*]

Im sorta stuck watchin this reporter at the jail ..:D

[CinTN]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie61


Oh dear, I can't believe he said that publicly. [/*]

I believe it,, it has been a thought in my head since I heard about the "not knowing who the father is" started..
They have a weird relationship.. I have a brother and I do not call him sweetie or honey,,

That little girl looks alot like him,,IMO

[bluwaters]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I sure wouldn't buy any story having to do with "nursing activities." I've read enough comments on boards from nurses that they have NOTHING to do with chloroform whatsoever. Chloroform is a thing of the past.

The one thing that makes me pause though is someone (forget who) on NG last night is the real oddness/curiosity of IF Casey premeditated the death of Caylee, WHY in the world would she pick such a strange substance as chloroform. To me, that's a good little nagging point. [/*]

I think it may be from watching television or movies. Casey seems to get a lot of her real life activities and ideas from the either screen.
Remember her excuse for not calling 911 when she lost Caylee? She had seen movies where involving the police made the situation worse. (paraphrased)

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by ellegna


A thought just came to mind.
Has anyone asked or mentioned whether there was a life insurance policy issued for Caylee? [/*]

I did a while back..If there was one, it was probally in the GP's name..

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by day2day


Im sorta stuck watchin this reporter at the jail ..:D [/*]

Are we expecting Casey to come out that door?:shrug:

[kakax]

Originally posted by cassidy


Maybe because she saw it used on TV. Place the cloth over the nose and mouth for a few seconds, the person is knocked out. Fast,easy way to put the kid to sleep? Then on to party time. :shrug: [/*]

Maybe she thought chloroform wouldn't be as easily detectable as something else she would use to overdose Caylee? Who knows, but there was some reason she searched it and then it was found in the trunk, where human decomposition was also found.:shrug:

[Postergeist]

Now remember folks- just the other day she called in the tip to Tim about the tips of Casey being seen in Texas. And that people need to be looking for a living, breathing walking around Caylee.

Will she at least be happy that is also being done?

http://www.local6.com/news/17383779/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

Equusearch will also send a search team to Texas, checking on claims made by the Anthony family that they have received several reports of Caylee sightings in the Dallas area.


(imo the 'several reports' are coming from Cindy herself, rather than anyone else contacting TES with 'tips')



Oh- and there was some confusion the other night on the board about which particular dumpster Padilla was referring to- for those that haven't read up on caught NG's show and other interviews with CNN

he was specifically referring to the Amscot Dumpster- which is not far from where Tony L. lives.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by day2day


Im sorta stuck watchin this reporter at the jail ..:D [/*]

Me, too. He was yawning up a storm a few minutes ago. Watching him has been pretty funny.

I sure do hope that Tim and his searchers will find something today. If anyone can, it will be Tim.

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by BlueHeron


If Caylee didn't take medicine easily, it's a lot easier to force inhalation of a substance rather than force something down her throat. My child can taste medicine mixed in his milk, and will balk. Additionally, you have to administer a very very large amount of OTC medicine to kill someone. Holding a soaked cloth over her little mouth is easier. As we all know, Casey like easy..l.:flamemad: [/*]

I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through...

[threesnugbugs]

Originally posted by Eli


good morning..

i believe that Casey wanted to put Caylee to sleep in the car with the chloroform while she went out dancing which is why she checked it out on the lap top computer.... I dont think she intended to kill her. Caylee was probably killed accidentally by the chloroform and possibly the heat in the car while her mother went to party. There is also a possibility that Casey intentionally put Caylee in the trunk of the car after chloroforming her and wanted her to die there. (where Casey would not see her die)

bless Caylee...

:( [/*]

The only thing that doesn't seem to mesh with this is the flurry of phone calls was in the afternoon of the last time she was "seen" by GA, not morning. I would think it would be late, late evening when Casey would discover Caylee if she used the chloroform for going to sleep so she could party.

[CinTN]

Originally posted by concernedmom


Are we expecting Casey to come out that door?:shrug: [/*]

She is supposed to have a meeting with her attorney this morning ,, the visitation with her parents for this morning was canceled

I guess thats why they are there...

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through... [/*]

chloraform= zanny the nanny.:shrug:

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by concernedmom


Are we expecting Casey to come out that door?:shrug: [/*]

No, but at times I will put the webcam on to see if there is any activity and will go to the proper station.

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by Mairi II


Unless it was Cindy who did the ordering, I don't think they could get her for it.

That just made me think: Didn't Casey use her own grandma's check routing information (from a birthday check) to order something online? Another hmmmmmmm......... [/*]

Why buy it when it's apparently made so easily at home??

[kakax]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through... [/*]


If this is true, then there should be a record of her using this drug (searches, purchases) for a long time prior to her disappearance. We will see!!

[day2day]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


Me, too. He was yawning up a storm a few minutes ago. Watching him has been pretty funny.

I sure do hope that Tim and his searchers will find something today. If anyone can, it will be Tim. [/*]

I am praying that hundreds show up to help in the search. IMO Tim looked MUCH better last night. Not as stressed. I can't imagine doing what he does and having the victims family against him searching. I agree-if anyone can find Caylee, Tim will do it.
I have been praying so hard for him.

edited to add...reporter is great looking and funny too!:D

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
they just stated that they will be carrying casey in court at around 8:30




http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html [/*]

Is the screen supposed to be black :shrug:

[gino1234]

GP also visit a lawyer Mark NeJame. To help get the focus back on Caylee.

[jammies]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


LOL! You guys crack me up with the webcam! But now, I have to go to it! ;)

Thanks day2day! [/*]


We love our webcams! lol Hugs to "FOX"!

[dixielover]

I just bet that we will hear from GA and CA that they cleaned the trunk with chloroform or used bleach and ethanol. I also think they are trying to stay ahead of the game by mentioning Caylee urine in the trunk the other nite on NG. I also fell Dr. K is going over to the dark side but where is the money going to come from to hire these experts. They don't come cheap! JMO

[Eli]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through... [/*]

Wow...i hope the prosecuter remembers that point because Casey could have been using chloroform all along and Caylee could have built up a tolerance for it and she had to use more and this time it was too much...

[MichelleP]

I was reading this article that was posted in the links section http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759 and all I have to say is wow.

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by jbellaj


Is the screen supposed to be black :shrug: [/*]


no bella---im seeing weather right now

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through...

yes- in the 400 didn't several friends comment about how Caylee seemed to sleep thru anything during those parties?

hmm

imo

May have been quite a habit to do this for all the years she was telling people about the nanny that NO ONE ever met.

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by gino1234
GP also visit a lawyer Mark NeJame. To help get the focus back on Caylee. [/*]

I have a question about this attorney. Not from the area so I don't know but has he ever tried high profile murder cases before and if so what is his success rate. :read:

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by day2day


I am praying that hundreds show up to help in the search. IMO Tim looked MUCH better last night. Not as stressed. I can't imagine doing what he does and having the victims family against him searching. I agree-if anyone can find Caylee, Tim will do it.
I have been praying so hard for him. [/*]

You are exactly right. NEVER have I seen a family AGAINST the one person searching for a loved one! This family is WAY too crazy. There are no other words for this family.

:rose: For Caylee, Tim and his searchers

[concernedmom]

Every time I think I am past being shocked in this case I find Caseys twisted mind has done something else I cant imagine.
If its true about running up her moms cc $45,000 Im scared to think of what the next bombshell will be.
She doesnt apparently have anything to show for spending that much money so where in the heck did it go? Maybe paying a hit man to off her parents?:shrug:

[dixielover]

Originally posted by MichelleP
I was reading this article that was posted in the links section http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759 and all I have to say is wow. [/*]

Yuck-please don't let this be true

[~jomomma~]

Originally posted by dixielover
I just bet that we will hear from GA and CA that they cleaned the trunk with chloroform or used bleach and ethanol. I also think they are trying to stay ahead of the game by mentioning Caylee urine in the trunk the other nite on NG. I also fell Dr. K is going over to the dark side but where is the money going to come from to hire these experts. They don't come cheap! JMO [/*]

but then that would raise the question of

'WHAT were you trying to clean' ??

'WHAT were you trying to cover up' ??

jmo!

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast



no bella---im seeing weather right now [/*]

not me it just black..:flamemad:

[Ckrdpast]

try this link bella


http://mfile.akamai.com/25193/live/reflector:32415.asx

[marshmallow]

quick question before I get back to reading: where has George gotten to? he seems to have quietly gone or maybe faded into the background?

[kOOkie1]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46


You are exactly right. NEVER have I seen a family AGAINST the one person searching for a loved one! This family is WAY too crazy. There are no other words for this family.

:rose: For Caylee, Tim and his searchers [/*]
ITA They make it very hard to feel any compasion for..very sad.(imo)

[ellegna]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


I don't think she intended to kill her. I think she was drugging Caylee so she's sleep through the partying but gave her either too much or forgot about her in the car after giving it to her. According to Casey's "friends" she brought Caylee to several adult parties that she slept right through... [/*]

If she did (allegedly) do research on chloroform, she would have known how dangerous it was.
Wouldn't a sleeping pill have been a safer alternative if she wanted Caylee to sleep while she was partying? :shrug:

[bchand]

I'm not sure if they will cover it live but the 2 mics are up again at this site:

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

click on connect

[nana6]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


And then you've got Kobilinsky throwing around that it's a byproduct of DNA extraction.

:rolleyes:

I want to throw things at him. [/*] Maybe he is oing to be a defense witness?

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by threesnugbugs


The only thing that doesn't seem to mesh with this is the flurry of phone calls was in the afternoon of the last time she was "seen" by GA, not morning. I would think it would be late, late evening when Casey would discover Caylee if she used the chloroform for going to sleep so she could party. [/*]

Maybe the flurry of calls have nothing to do with the case or...maybe she had to knock her out early for shopping BEFORE the partying and shopped longer then planned. So sick and so sad. I'm betting on her having used chloroform on Caylee more than once. SICK! If she's bailed out she will not be safe...not that that bothers me but she had so called death threats before...maybe Lenny figures that is what she deserves?

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
try this link bella


http://mfile.akamai.com/25193/live/reflector:32415.asx [/*]


PERFECT, your the BEST :seeya:

[JHP]

Originally posted by ~jomomma~


but then that would raise the question of

'WHAT were you trying to clean' ??

'WHAT were you trying to cover up' ??

jmo! [/*]

Pizza, of course.

JMO

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by jbellaj



PERFECT, your the BEST :seeya: [/*]

NO court appearance---? whats up with that?

[spiritwolf46]

Hearing this morning is NOT going to happen. According to myfox orlando

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by ellegna


If she did (allegedly) do research on chloroform, she would have known how dangerous it was.
Wouldn't a sleeping pill have been a safer alternative if she wanted Caylee to sleep while she was partying? :shrug: [/*]

If she saw the danger she wouldn't care IMO. If she cared she would not have used it to begin with. Maybe the flurry of calls were to find a babysitter for Caylee so she could go party and when that didn't pan out, she used her old standby. Sleeping pills would have been too easily traced back to her and Caylee probably wouldn't have taken them...and probably would have told Grandma that mom was making her take medicine.

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by Eli


Wow...i hope the prosecuter remembers that point because Casey could have been using chloroform all along and Caylee could have built up a tolerance for it and she had to use more and this time it was too much...

oh yes the tolerance- that came up hundreds of times during the ANS case

(which is why I won't be commenting on the link and the topic that Padilla mentioned- too many of us got sent to the naughty 'net chair with similar discussions in above mentioned case)

:(

If at least hair remains that should hopefully tell most of what type of drugs that may have been in the child's system.

I wonder if there is enough hairs from the trunk to do that testing?

I know depending on the drugs- some can go back a few months and other drugs they can show years of use.

imo

[nana6]

Originally posted by dixielover


Yuck-please don't let this be true [/*] Oh yuk is right but this is an odd family.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by nana6
Maybe he is oing to be a defense witness? [/*]

Then, IMO, he should decline to comment on the case or evidence pertaining to it.

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
Hearing this morning is NOT going to happen. According to myfox orlando [/*]

Maybe the murder charge is coming so there's no need for it???? Maybe the dog bones were not dog bones but really Caylee and they have everything they need. Please let them have found that baby girl!

[MichelleP]

Originally posted by dixielover


Yuck-please don't let this be true [/*]

I wonder what Lee has to say about that article.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by wingsgirl24


Maybe the murder charge is coming so there's no need for it???? Maybe the dog bones were not dog bones but really Caylee and they have everything they need. Please let them have found that baby girl! [/*]

BOTH of these things went through my mind as well. I was wondering if Caylee was found this am by Tim and searchers.

Who knows.

We sure want this little one to be found, don't we? Too bad the GP's and Casey doesn't. :cuss:

[concernedmom]

Maybe Casey knows Tim will find the body and confessed so she could say it was an accident.:D

[jammies]

Originally posted by Postergeist


yanno jammies- I am just soooo happy that she didn't "lose" her laptop

like she "lost" her cell phone

like she 'misplaced' her daughter with 'someone she trusted'

I hope any and everything on her hard drive that can be used in court gets entered in.

And about those flurry of calls- maybe once she couldn't reach her parents

it was just another "oh well" to her-

(something like - well they didn't answer, so it's their fault- I tried, and they all know about my mistrust of police)

imo [/*]


I DO question the flurry of calls. What was she going to tell them? "I overdosed Caylee with chloroform?" I just wonder if those calls had anything to do with the dissapearance/death of Caylee.

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by MrLucky917
Fox Orlando just said no hearing this morning for Casey-details to follow [/*]

Please keep us up-dated..:)

[bchand]

Originally posted by MrLucky917
Fox Orlando just said no hearing this morning for Casey-details to follow [/*]

Thanks !

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by concernedmom
Maybe Casey knows Tim will find the body and confessed so she could say it was an accident.:D [/*]

Probably some scheduling conflict with Baez.

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast


NO court appearance---? whats up with that? [/*]

I don't know but that pizzes me off.I really wanted to see her smug face.....Maybe she doesn't have to be present. :read:

[bchand]

She has made bond on all charges except the $500,000 and therefore doesn't have to appear.

Her parents are rescheduled for tomorrow.

Jose is going in now to see her.

when asked why she would pay the smaller amts when she can't get out anyway, the reporter said he doesn't know but maybe she's hoping "someone" will come up with the money for the $500,000.

Jose coming out now - The reporter will be back.

[CinTN]

Did I miss it lastnight on NG , but I dont remember anything talked about the dogs hitting on something.
Or stuff found at the park ....

Just wondering if I may had missed it...

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by jammies



I DO question the flurry of calls. What was she going to tell them? "I overdosed Caylee with chloroform?" I just wonder if those calls had anything to do with the dissapearance/death of Caylee. [/*]

Maybe she was just looking for a babysitter and when that didnt happen, she used the chloroform as usual. It wouldn't surprise me if she would call over and over if someone didn't answer her calls right away, for any reason, not just an emergency.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by bchand
I'm not sure if they will cover it live but the 2 mics are up again at this site:

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

click on connect [/*]
I thought the 5th Circuit Court was the court assigned to her case? :confused:

[kOOkie1]

..I am trying to figure out Why LP made a big deal out of the time the car was seen in the Amscot pkg lot. (7am) and the time TL said he picked Casey up?? Does seem interesting that Casey would be out "grocery shopping with Caylee that morning before 7 am.. would seem more logical that it was there the nite before..i think.
The dumpster in that area makes alot of sense since that white bag in the trunk was thrown out at that location the day George picked up the Veh...imo..its going to be interesting finding out what was contained in that! Did they ever receive into evidence that particular trash bag ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLCncfI_Iw
(NG segment)

[newbiee]

morning everyone. please keep us updated from news on the tv. I'm at work and depend on all of you for my info. Ya'll are awsume!

[MamaMari]

I swear, this case is getting more and more bizarre. It's not a circus, it's a freak show. Padilla saying Caylee being a product of Lee and Casey, chlorophorm, Zanny the Nanny from a book, WTH is next?
I just want this angel brought home. I am sick to death of these idiots and their twisted lives.

[crymeariver2006]

Why are these little pi$$ant bonds being met? Doesn't that seem like a waste of money considering it's NOT going to get her out of jail?

[wingsgirl24]

Possible life insurance is an interesting angle. Maybe that's how she was going to get her parents' home??

[bchand]

Originally posted by Pooh

I thought the 5th Circuit Court was the court assigned to her case? :confused: [/*]

This is where I watch the hearing last Saturday?? I just know what I have bookmarked :)

Doesn't matter now, she's not appearing.

[CinTN]

Originally posted by bchand
She has made bond on all charges except the $500,000 and therefore doesn't have to appear.

Her parents are rescheduled for tomorrow.

Jose is going in now to see her.

when asked why she would pay the smaller amts when she can't get out anyway, the reporter said he doesn't know but maybe she's hoping "someone" will come up with the money for the $500,000.

Jose coming out now - The reporter will be back. [/*]

I thought it was for the NEW charges.. :shrug:

[Pooh]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
Why are these little pi$$ant bonds being met? Doesn't that seem like a waste of money considering it's NOT going to get her out of jail? [/*]
I was thinking the same thing! I think Baez is pressuring Leonard to spring her again. Gosh I hope the DA is ready to charge her SOON!

[concernedmom]

I wonder why the cam is on the jail today? Expecting murder charges?:shrug:

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
Why are these little pi$$ant bonds being met? Doesn't that seem like a waste of money considering it's NOT going to get her out of jail? [/*]

Those are my questions, exactly! AND, who in the he77 keeps paying those? Who wants her out? If the GP's, how are they getting the money?

Inquiring minds want to know!

[newbiee]

Originally posted by concernedmom
I wonder why the cam is on the jail today? Expecting murder charges?:shrug: [/*]


Hi mom, could you give me that link. The link I have is for the mobilecam2, and that's on a clothing store.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by bchand


This is where I watch the hearing last Saturday?? I just know what I have bookmarked :)

Doesn't matter now, she's not appearing. [/*]
Cool! Must have just been the appeal to the original bond that I'm remembering. Thanks! I'll bookmark it too - for NEXT time! LOL

[bchand]

Originally posted by CinTN


I thought it was for the NEW charges.. :shrug: [/*]

It was but the reporter said since she has satisifed the bond for these new charges, she doesn't have to appear.

(I'm just typing what is being said on tv.)

[IfIMay]

Originally posted by Ms. Monk


Koblinsky = SELLOUT!:flamemad:

I thought so highly of him till the past two NG's, where he is obviously backpedaling and throwing out a bunch of BS since he's been in contact with Baez. [/*]

Seriously...he was my last forensic talking head hope. He always told it straight. The bending is not his style and that is obvious. Did you see his face when Nancy called him on it.

She needs to stop having him on air on this case. He's obviously biased to the defense now. He was twisting in the wind trying to come up with a reason to have chloroform.

Totally bummed with him.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by concernedmom
I wonder why the cam is on the jail today? Expecting murder charges?:shrug: [/*]

They were probably anticipating George and Cindy visiting today.

Now that's supposed to happen tomorrow.

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by newbiee



Hi mom, could you give me that link. The link I have is for the mobilecam2, and that's on a clothing store. [/*]



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[cher_fl]

NO COURT TODAY

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7356643&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony, will not have to appear before a judge on new charges Thursday morning.

A jail spokesperson confirms that Casey Anthony posted bail last night for the new charges. To be released, she would still have to come up with 10 percent of her $500,200 bond because it was rescinded by a bounty hunter last week.


Sheriff's investigators filed two counts of uttering a forged check, two counts of petit theft and two counts of fraudulent use of personal identification against the 22-year-old mother.

Her parents, Cindy and George, scheduled a video visitation with Casey Thursday morning, but the meeting was canceled due to the conflict with the court appearance and was postponed to Friday morning. [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]

[newbiee]

Originally posted by concernedmom




http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html [/*]

thank you :seeya:

[CinTN]

Originally posted by newbiee



Hi mom, could you give me that link. The link I have is for the mobilecam2, and that's on a clothing store. [/*]

Fox Cam at the jail ..
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[deep*fear]

:( I know a poster here found this info. Your idea made the paper.


http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7348410&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

"She was commonly referred to as "Zanny the Nanny," by Casey and her friends. Padilla says the reference "Zanny the Nanny" is from the book "Double Trouble Squared" which features a set of twins and their nanny. "

[Eli]

Originally posted by MamaMari
I swear, this case is getting more and more bizarre. It's not a circus, it's a freak show. Padilla saying Caylee being a product of Lee and Casey, chlorophorm, Zanny the Nanny from a book, WTH is next?
I just want this angel brought home. I am sick to death of these idiots and their twisted lives. [/*]

To quote a beloved Jurist..(JUDGE JUDY)..it it doesnt make sense then IT IS NOT TRUE...

[day2day]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Probably some scheduling conflict with Baez. [/*]

Baez has probly been fired. Time for a new attorney for the princess. JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Okay, my ears glazed over when Lenny was talking, so is it now his position that she has to talk first and bail later?

[PATTY]

I DONT KNOW IF THIS WAS POSTED YET BUT ZANNY THE NANNY CAME FROM A BOOK CALLED DOUBLE TROUBLE SQUARED.

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by PATTY
I DONT KNOW IF THIS WAS POSTED YET BUT ZANNY THE NANNY CAME FROM A BOOK CALLED DOUBLE TROUBLE SQUARED. [/*]

Hiya Patty,

Yep, been posted. Weird, huh?

[bchand]

Originally posted by day2day


Baez has probly been fired. Time for a new attorney for the princess. JMO [/*]

Baez has been in to see her today already so he's still on the case.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by IfIMay


Seriously...he was my last forensic talking head hope. He always told it straight. The bending is not his style and that is obvious. Did you see his face when Nancy called him on it.

She needs to stop having him on air on this case. He's obviously biased to the defense now. He was twisting in the wind trying to come up with a reason to have chloroform.

Totally bummed with him. [/*]
Me too. My husband said last night that chlorofom is a specific compound that cannot be "created" by just anyone using clorine and the other chemical they were talking about. So Kobi is blowing smoke up the arses of the NG audience. Shame on him. :no:

[Pooh]

Originally posted by CinTN


Fox Cam at the jail ..
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html [/*]
I have dual monitors on my laptop and I'm running out of real estate with all the webcams and news reports. LOL!!

[day2day]

Originally posted by bchand


Baez has been in to see her today already so he's still on the case. [/*]

There goes that theory...!! Thanks bchand!
Gotta run to the office..will be back as soon as i can:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Pooh

Me too. My husband said last night that chlorofom is a specific compound that cannot be "created" by just anyone using clorine and the other chemical they were talking about. So Kobi is blowing smoke up the arses of the NG audience. Shame on him. :no: [/*]

Now, now....you know the defense will be that in the same Food Network episode where George got the recipe for Decomp Pizza, it was followed with a recipe for chloroform.

:no:

[Ckrdpast]

Casey Anthony Posts Bond On New Charges, Avoids Court Appearance


http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html

[crymeariver2006]

I think Cindy posted the bond to spite us.

:D

[nc1948]

Originally posted by n/t
Morning Postie,

I hope you're right about the BH not bailing her out. Just the idea that he was thinking it made me want to pull my hair out.

I haven't heard any comments from the Anthonys regarding the chloro. They apparently went to see a high profile defense attorney yesterday from what I read on the boards. [/*]

I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

Unfortunately this case is convoluted that we will never get the answers to a lot of our questions. Casey will never talk, when Cindy talks it is way out in left field and totally wierd. George has lost it and Lee has disappeared.

JMHO. I along with everyone else have been totally confused by actions and words of this family. I just want them to let someone bring Caylee home.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Now, now....you know the defense will be that in the same Food Network episode where George got the recipe for Decomp Pizza, it was followed with a recipe for chloroform.

:no: [/*]
:lol: Oh yes, how could I be so dumb!

[huskiki]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
Okay, my ears glazed over when Lenny was talking, so is it now his position that she has to talk first and bail later? [/*]

That's what he said last night. She would have to talk, tell all she knows, and lead LE to the body. Then he would post bail. The only problem with that is, if they have a body new charges will follow, murder and all, and she probably won't have bail. LOL

[monicac]

It's been a while since I saw the movie "American Psycho", but I remember reading that Casey had listed the film somewhere, perhaps as her 'currently watching' on Facebook or Myspace... Anyhow, I think the killer in that film may have used chloroform on one of his victims. Anyone remember that? Also, someone posted that chloroform was the centerpiece of an episode of CSI, which apparently was Casey's favorite show (which in itself I find very interesting...). Oh well, completely bizarre. I wonder what else was found on her comp early on...

IMO/JMO/MOO

[Ckrdpast]

Baez is telling reporters that HE does not know who posted the lastest bond---

[bchand]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
Casey Anthony Posts Bond On New Charges, Avoids Court Appearance


http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html [/*]

Thanks -

New news - Reporter spoke to Baez -

He did not know that someone had put up the money for the latest charges..

He had a meeting with CA til about midnight. When he arrived here, it was a surprise that someone posted the bond.

He said it is a great question why someone would put up this bond. He has no idea.

He said he represents Casey not the Anthony family. The fact that the family is speaking to another attorney is good.

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by nc1948


I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

Unfortunately this case is convoluted that we will never get the answers to a lot of our questions. Casey will never talk, when Cindy talks it is way out in left field and totally wierd. George has lost it and Lee has disappeared.

JMHO. I along with everyone else have been totally confused by actions and words of this family. I just want them to let someone bring Caylee home. [/*]

Casey "talking" would mean nothing more than more garbage coming out of her mouth. Confessions DO NOT have to be truthful...not even to be used in court. Sometimes the lies in a confession are just as good as the truth for prosecution but believe me, it sucks for the family. :(

[msgatorslayer]

Morning all.

Wasn't it mentioned yesterday that Cindy was talking to the new lawyer dude about some forensic evidence?

I remember reading that but I'm not sure if it was in a link or a local heard it on the news.

Anyways, later in the evening - new evidence of chloroform released.

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by bchand


Thanks -

New news - Reporter spoke to Baez -

He did not know that someone had put up the money for the latest charges..

He had a meeting with CA til about midnight. When he arrived here, it was a surprise that someone posted the bond.

He said it is a great question why someone would put up this bond. He has no idea.

He said he represents Casey not the Anthony family. The fact that the family is speaking to another attorney is good. [/*]

Interesting. Does he think they may need an attorney soon?:shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
Baez is telling reporters that HE does not know who posted the lastest bond--- [/*]

That Baez....he says the funniest things!

Like we think that somewhere there is a Bail Fairy and she left the bail money under Casey's pillow last night.

Oh wait, does she even have a pillow?

[jbellaj]

Originally posted by bchand


Thanks -

New news - Reporter spoke to Baez -

He did not know that someone had put up the money for the latest charges..

He had a meeting with CA til about midnight. When he arrived here, it was a surprise that someone posted the bond.

He said it is a great question why someone would put up this bond. He has no idea.

He said he represents Casey not the Anthony family. The fact that the family is speaking to another attorney is good. [/*]

Which breing s to this. Why do the Anthony's need an attorney? I'm not buying the "threats" and handling the media.:read:

[Ckrdpast]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


That Baez....he says the funniest things!

Like we think that somewhere there is a Bail Fairy and she left the bail money under Casey's pillow last night.

Oh wait, does she even have a pillow? [/*]

:lol:

[Eli]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nc1948


I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

HI just catching up...when did Cindy report her ID stolen??
hmmm. You know everyone is feeling sorry for this woman Cindy but i am watching her trying to TOTALLY CONTROL everything...and i really wonder about her. i have not heard why Casey wasnt able to leave her daughter with her grandmother when she went out partying. If Cindy cared so much, why wasnt she babysitting. Being a grandmother, i took every opportunity i could get to babysit...loved the grandkids. Something is missing here.....
:read:

[MizzMossie]

Originally posted by jammies



We love our webcams! lol Hugs to "FOX"! [/*]
:lol: I feel like the nosey neighbor on Bewitched.. Just call me Gladys Kravitz.

:rose: MAY TODAY BE THE DAY THAT LITTLE CAYLEE COMES HOME!

[wingsgirl24]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


That Baez....he says the funniest things!

Like we think that somewhere there is a Bail Fairy and she left the bail money under Casey's pillow last night.

Oh wait, does she even have a pillow? [/*]

I hope she doesn't have a pillow or if she does, it's hard as a rock!

[spiritwolf46]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


That Baez....he says the funniest things!

Like we think that somewhere there is a Bail Fairy and she left the bail money under Casey's pillow last night.

Oh wait, does she even have a pillow? [/*]

:lol:

[ellegna]

Originally posted by nc1948


I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

Unfortunately this case is convoluted that we will never get the answers to a lot of our questions. Casey will never talk, when Cindy talks it is way out in left field and totally wierd. George has lost it and Lee has disappeared.

JMHO. I along with everyone else have been totally confused by actions and words of this family. I just want them to let someone bring Caylee home. [/*]

You could be right about the purchases.
If the credit card company investigates and it points to Casey, Cindy just hammered another nail in Casey's coffin of charges.

[Pooh]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
Baez is telling reporters that HE does not know who posted the lastest bond--- [/*]
OH Paalleeeeeeze! We weren't born LAST night.

[monicac]

Sorry for all of the rambling, but I'm sort of thinking out loud...

I wonder if Casey was planning the 'fake kidnapping' for a while, and was going to use chloroform in her story. As in, "The kidnapper chloroformed me and stole Caylee!". Then later for whatever reason decided to say the nanny left with Caylee. I get the feeling Casey was an elaborate planner, maybe even moreso than the Golden Boy himself Scott Peterson.

Also, do we know how/when/who actually purchased Casey's laptop? I know she was claiming it was her 'work computer', but obviously that was another lie.

TIA

MOO/IMO/JMO

[Snoopy50]

Originally posted by lslater
As with MOST families there is always a family member that can ave some influence on another family member....a member we would listen to ..take advise from..relie on.Is there not one person, a family member or a best friend or a pastor that could take Cindy by the shoulders and sit her down and talk to her. Just ask her to look and consider all evidence and put her daughter aside for just a few minutes. It is so hard when ones child is inolved in something so horrific but Cindy needs help..from someone she trust. Le has been so considerate of her and George but they keep on blasting the job they have to do. She has to get some outside help if there is no family member for her to turn to. JMO as always.... [/*]
Great post!
Morning friends!:seeya:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Pooh

Me too. My husband said last night that chlorofom is a specific compound that cannot be "created" by just anyone using clorine and the other chemical they were talking about. So Kobi is blowing smoke up the arses of the NG audience. Shame on him. :no: [/*]

IMO it's one of two things, either Kobi has crawled in bed with the devil or he's been put on notice for prejudicing a potential jury pool. JMO tho and nothing else. :flamemad:

[jewel6]

Originally posted by nc1948


I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

Unfortunately this case is convoluted that we will never get the answers to a lot of our questions. Casey will never talk, when Cindy talks it is way out in left field and totally wierd. George has lost it and Lee has disappeared.

JMHO. I along with everyone else have been totally confused by actions and words of this family. I just want them to let someone bring Caylee home. [/*]

ITA!

[nc1948]

Originally posted by cassidy


This case has given me the creeps since I heard Cindy's 3rd 911 call. [/*]

The first 911 call is the one that bothers me. Cindy called to report her car stolen. Her daughter had been missing, but she found her daughter. Her grandaughter was still miss, but she calls about the car. Strange proirities.

[Leeann1313]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
Baez is telling reporters that HE does not know who posted the lastest bond--- [/*]

Morning all....

Oh I agree with some others on here. Cindy probably posted the last bond and will not have it alerted just to make it look like Casey's got believers out there. Cindy probably borrowed the money from her ma and pa.

jmo

[Snoopy50]

Originally posted by nc1948


The first 911 call is the one that bothers me. Cindy called to report her car stolen. Her daughter had been missing, but she found her daughter. Her grandaughter was still miss, but she calls about the car. Strange proirities. [/*] MOO on this one is that Cindy was making that call to force Casey to tell her where the baby was after all this time. A power play possibly. I doubt she was more concerned about the car, but then again, who could really know for sure?:shrug:

[Snoopy50]

Originally posted by DianeA
why is the fox mabile cam in a clothing store? Do they no longer have one at the house? [/*] Maybe FOX wants to treat you to a shopping spree!:tongue:

[nana6]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Then, IMO, he should decline to comment on the case or evidence pertaining to it. [/*] absolutely because he sure has sounded as though he was sising to me the last couple of nights and that is not right

[CinTN]

Originally posted by DianeA
why is the fox mabile cam in a clothing store? Do they no longer have one at the house? [/*]http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[bchand]

Originally posted by monicac
It's been a while since I saw the movie "American Psycho", but I remember reading that Casey had listed the film somewhere, perhaps as her 'currently watching' on Facebook or Myspace... Anyhow, I think the killer in that film may have used chloroform on one of his victims. Anyone remember that? Also, someone posted that chloroform was the centerpiece of an episode of CSI, which apparently was Casey's favorite show (which in itself I find very interesting...). Oh well, completely bizarre. I wonder what else was found on her comp early on...

IMO/JMO/MOO [/*]

Yikes I haven't seen either the original American Psycho or American Psycho II: All American Girl but the synopsis and viewer comments on the 2nd one really, really remind me of Casey Anthony !!

(at www.imdb.com)

[nana6]

Originally posted by nana6
absolutely because he sure has sounded as though he was sising to me the last couple of nights and that is not right [/*] I mean siding with the defense

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Leeann1313


Morning all....

Oh I agree with some others on here. Cindy probably posted the last bond and will not have it alerted just to make it look like Casey's got believers out there. Cindy probably borrowed the money from her ma and pa.

jmo [/*]

Yes, she'll want everyone to believe that it was some sympathetic (emphasis on 'pathetic') anonymous person.

If Cindy "borrowed" the money from her parents, I wonder if they know about it? Cindy does have her mother's checkbook doesn't she?

[jammies]

Anyone notice the "details" that Casey told Tony about the car? When he was on vaca she tells him all about how and where it's being fixed and even calls the mechanics by name.

Reminds me of George and all the needless details he told about Casey's "visit" on the 24th re: the gas cans.

She learned this trait at home, IMO.

[nc1948]

Originally posted by concernedmom
LE has a reason for leaking these little tidbits one at a time.
We know she googled chloraform but we dont know if she purchased it.
Maybe we will or maybe we wont until trial.
My question is if she purchased it with Cindy's cc, wont Cindy be in trouble or possibly arrested for purchasing an illegal substance since she is responsible for her cc? [/*]

Cindy has reported her ID stolen. This is to cover for any suspicious purchases. IMHO

[oldbluesmith]

Originally posted by nc1948


The first 911 call is the one that bothers me. Cindy called to report her car stolen. Her daughter had been missing, but she found her daughter. Her grandaughter was still miss, but she calls about the car. Strange proirities. [/*]Great post, you are absolutely correct on the car, but IIRC she also was trying to report money stolen on the first call. Strange they never seem to have gotten around the Anthony money that was stolen. Hmmmmm.......we know what money she took, but will there ever be charges? JMHO

[Elle]

Originally posted by nc1948


The first 911 call is the one that bothers me. Cindy called to report her car stolen. Her daughter had been missing, but she found her daughter. Her grandaughter was still miss, but she calls about the car. Strange proirities. [/*]


IMO Cindy was attempting to put pressure on Casey to reveal the whereabouts of Caylee, I don't believe that she thought Caylee was actually missing but rather being kept from her.....

imo, moo, jmho, imhoo

[kitty1182]

Originally posted by Ckrdpast
Baez is telling reporters that HE does not know who posted the lastest bond--- [/*]

He probally posted it himself.LOL

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by nc1948


I think Cindy reported her ID stolen to have a reason to deny any questionable purchases. I think she waited too late to do this. I also think she went to defense attorney because she knows she has lied and also wonder if there is not more she may be responsible for. (such as helping dispose of Caylee after death). I think she is trying to cover her ___.

Unfortunately this case is convoluted that we will never get the answers to a lot of our questions. Casey will never talk, when Cindy talks it is way out in left field and totally wierd. George has lost it and Lee has disappeared.

JMHO. I along with everyone else have been totally confused by actions and words of this family. I just want them to let someone bring Caylee home. [/*]

ITA NC, and further I now believe that Wednesday when they got some telling news, the same day Cindy started with the hammer and signs and the house was basically quiet...THAT PHASE II began for the Anthony Clan IMO.

I think she found her excuse for the chloraform - Sam and Zanny musta used such on Casey and it somehow was transferred and also used lightly on Caylee to stop them from screaming as the kidnapping was happening....:rolleyes: you remember, the imaginary kidnapping with the imaginary nanny...and on and on.

Only thing Cindy didn't count on was the cache from Casey's laptop and the fact that LE is going to outsmart her conspiring ways every step of the way IMO.

I'll bet she is shaking in her boots with Tim staying now.

Anywhoo...I think the DEFENSE is working within Cindy...ya know the defense that doesn't even exist yet....for the alleged death of a child.

Then I believe she morphed into the COMEBACK KID one more time and decided to get a CIVIL ACTION IN PLAY.

Starting with her many insinuations that LE set Casey up, then that because of their information/PC's the public refused to search, then that any bad things which implicate family will be covered under a stolen identity....:rolleyes: EVERYONE wants to be an Anthony...please just about as much as everyone wants to change their name to Zanieda. NOT SO MUCH...

But I fully believe she will be bringing an action against Orange County very soon and blaming the media for the death of Caylee by the time all is said and done.

Let us not forget that she has stated this on FOX, CNN and many other appearances about how the media will be responsible if Caylee is not found alive....

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, oh the web she weaves. ALL JMO.

[jammies]

Originally posted by Elle



IMO Cindy was attempting to put pressure on Casey to reveal the whereabouts of Caylee, I don't believe that she thought Caylee was actually missing but rather being kept from her.....

imo, moo, jmho, imhoo [/*]


ITA

[bchand]

Originally posted by concernedmom


Interesting. Does he think they may need an attorney soon?:shrug: [/*]

He just mentioned "considering the threats the family has been receiving."

[Snoopy50]

Originally posted by jammies
Anyone notice the "details" that Casey told Tony about the car? When he was on vaca she tells him all about how and where it's being fixed and even calls the mechanics by name.

Reminds me of George and all the needless details he told about Casey's "visit" on the 24th re: the gas cans.

She learned this trait at home, IMO. [/*]:beer: :beer:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Morning fellow posters. :seeya:

I started thinking lastnight after reading many posts, concerning the reports of chloroform and the theories about Caylee wearing a diaper in the pool etc.

I took a look at all the photos of Caylee in her bathing suit. She doesn't look to be wearing a diaper when she wears her bathingsuit for swimming. I can't tell in some of the photos if she is wearing a diaper in her regular clothes or not. I'd be more enclined to think that it was urination after death coming in contact with wet clorinated clothing that created chloriform than the other theory. Not that I believe it was an accident in the pool to begin with. Just sayin.