Michelle Young 8.21.08

[Kat4Eagles]

Busy nite, huh?

Continue here.

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Busy nite, huh?

Continue here.

Kat [/*]

It's not looking good for JLY!

But, the recent news certainly puts a "breath of fresh air" on what you've referred to as a cold case, eh?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by bookie




The s/w's are 6 months old. No breath of fresh air and obviously there is more then the police are saying since they can't come up with enough for an arrest. [/*]

If the s/w's were 3 months old and posted on Walmart's bulletin board--you'd still have reason to complain! JMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by bookie




The s/w's are 6 months old. No breath of fresh air and obviously there is more then the police are saying since they can't come up with enough for an arrest. [/*]

Morning Bookie..!!!

Did you read that Jason is going to be the new Bachelor..?
"Jilted on Bachelor, Jason will get a 2nd chance to find love."

Oops, not this Jason? sorry!!

Back to the case.........Search warrants from 6 months ago ?
I am sure Mr. Smith has reasonable explanations..

I would like to see a pic of the rock though, small rock, big rock, huge rock, boulder?
:)

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


(snipped)......

I would like to see a pic of the rock though, small rock, big rock, huge rock, boulder?
[/*]

Apparently, JLY is fascinated with "props"?

*staging an overnight hotel stay
*staging a robbery

I wonder if he thinks he could pull off a staged kidnapping of Cassidy too?

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


If the s/w's were 3 months old and posted on Walmart's bulletin board--you'd still have reason to complain! JMO [/*] :beer:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


Morning Bookie..!!!

Did you read that Jason is going to be the new Bachelor..?
"Jilted on Bachelor, Jason will get a 2nd chance to find love."

Oops, not this Jason? sorry!!

Back to the case.........Search warrants from 6 months ago ?
I am sure Mr. Smith has reasonable explanations..

I would like to see a pic of the rock though, small rock, big rock, huge rock, boulder?
:)

Kat [/*]When was the rock put there?
When was it removed?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by alter ego
When was the rock put there?
When was it removed? [/*]


It would help if we could track this rock down, maybe they have one on ebay or another list, somewhere we could compare it to.

Do you think L E is hinting this could be the murder weapon?

:shrug:

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
When was the rock put there?
When was it removed? [/*]

Maybe it was Jason's "pet rock" ?

:lol:

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by bookie



Oh I'm not complaining. I'm just pointing out that you are wrong and there is no breath of fresh air in 6 month old warrants that have resulted in NO arrests. [/*]


I agree but now we have a rock to explore.

:rolleyes:

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by bookie



Oh I'm not complaining. I'm just pointing out that you are wrong and there is no breath of fresh air in 6 month old warrants that have resulted in NO arrests. [/*]

::::swoosh::::

Over your head?

I was referring to JLY's recent exchange of correspondence and photos with "breath of fresh air" from his Craigslist Ad.

Apparently, as recently as June 2008.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints




I was referring to JLY's recent exchange of correspondence and photos with "breath of fresh air" from his Craigslist Ad.

Apparently, as recently as June 2008. [/*]


They are very good pics and shows he spends time with C and takes her everywhere, which I told everyone by the way.!!

You can just tell Jason is a devoted Dad!!
I knew it!!

Jason looks great and C is adorable.
I hope they enjoy many more vacations together.

Apparently, L E has no trouble letting Jason leave the state at all.
This is a good thing!!

:)

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by bookie




No, nothing went over my head. I just chose not to be tacky enough to quote something so trite especially since it was used incorrectly. [/*]

Perhaps the shock value was not all that .

:)
Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



They are very good pics and shows he spends time with C and takes her everywhere, which I told everyone by the way.!!

Jason looks great and C is adorable.
I hope they enjoy many more vacations together.

Apparently, L E has no trouble letting Jason leave the state at all.
This is a good thing!!

:)

Kat [/*]

Oh, thanks. I didn't know Puerto Rico was a state within the United States! Apparently, JLY's mother is his parole officer? I recall she also escorted him to NY while visiting with Mr. Fisher, quite some time ago. I also recall she escorted LE to JLY and his company's van during those Valentine search warrants.

After the murder, maybe Pat Young had a mutual agreement with LE not to unleash her son?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by kingcole
"In the photos, Jason Young repeatedly displays his daughter Cassidy as part of his attempts to find and attract internet dates."
--NCWanted
===========

Anybody know where this stuff came from?
Who said that about 'find and attract'?
Were the photos sent to an individual?
If anyone knows....?

==Kingcole [/*]

Does the GJ meet today, Aug 21?

Maybe you would know?

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by alter ego
When was the rock put there?
When was it removed? [/*]

questions, questions! The Judge probably asked the very same thing when he concluded there was nothing in the search warrants that needed to be sealed. LOL.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by bookie



It wasn't for me. :shrug: [/*]


Was it supposed to be, lol?

Were we supposed to go, OMG, look at Jason..!!

Bad Jason !!

It has the opposite effect, it shows he includes C in his life.

:)
Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


questions, questions! The Judge probably asked the very same thing when he concluded there was nothing in the search warrants that needed to be sealed. LOL. [/*]


I know it!!

We finally get new info on the case and it raises more q's than answers.

I am glad that L E finally confirmed that jewelry was missing , just like JTF told us months and months ago..

No one could ever answer my q's where Michelle's rings were, now we know why.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Does the GJ meet today, Aug 21?

Maybe you would know? [/*]

Next GJ.
Usually Tuesdays.

8.26

9.9

9.23

You are welcome!!
:)
Kat

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by kingcole
"In the photos, Jason Young repeatedly displays his daughter Cassidy as part of his attempts to find and attract internet dates."
--NCWanted
===========

Anybody know where this stuff came from?
Who said that about 'find and attract'?
Were the photos sent to an individual?
If anyone knows....?

==Kingcole [/*]

I dunno but hope LE is investigating. It's one thing to pull these stunts on an adult but to do this to the little girl is crossing the line, imvho.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by bookie



Did police bother to watch the video to see if someone else put the rock in the door? [/*]

Of course. I have a hunch that if Jason Young was captured leaving on a video, he was also captured returning.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Of course. I have a hunch that if Jason Young was captured leaving on a video, he was also captured returning. [/*]


To me, the videos captured what Jason was wearing and the time stamp, it confirmed Jason being at "certain places a certain times".

But, they certainly did not capture a killer.

Kat

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



To me, the videos captured what Jason was wearing and the time stamp, it confirmed Jason being at "certain places a certain times".

But, they certainly did not capture a killer.

Kat [/*]

No doubt about it. I think we'll soon be seeing more warrants returned and sealed.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by bookie



I agree. If the "certain places at certain times" left time enough for Jason to get home and back he'd have been arrested long ago. There is something going on that LE won't reveal that is stopping them from making an arrest and I think that something is that he's seen on video at a time that won't allow them to place him in the home during the crucial time. [/*]

There's obviously something going on. The Sheriff declined comment and that's a first.

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by bookie



I agree. If the "certain places at certain times" left time enough for Jason to get home and back he'd have been arrested long ago. There is something going on that LE won't reveal that is stopping them from making an arrest and I think that something is that he's seen on video at a time that won't allow them to place him in the home during the crucial time. [/*]

If that's the case then why haven't they switched gears and started looking for the real killer? Why for two years continue to pursue someone that has a solid alibli? The only way they'd do that is if they believe Jason hired a hitman and I don't believe that's the case.

I think it's only a matter of time before Jason is arrested for the murder of Michelle and LE will go with the CE they have if they can't get anything else on him.

And no Kat I don't know how many days, weeks or months that matter of time will be. LOL

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If that's the case then why haven't they switched gears and started looking for the real killer? Why for two years continue to pursue someone that has a solid alibli? The only way they'd do that is if they believe Jason hired a hitman and I don't believe that's the case.

I think it's only a matter of time before Jason is arrested for the murder of Michelle and LE will go with the CE they have if they can't get anything else on him.

And no Kat I don't know how many days, weeks or months that matter of time will be. LOL [/*]


So, have more search warrants been issued or is what they have enough now?

Part of the reason for my impatience is because posters have predicted and promised us dates of an arrest.

All of which have come and passed (except for the one at the end off the summer)

Would that be Labor day or the official last day of summer before fall begins?

Also, we were promised that swarms of reporters would be surrounding the Young home this week when the warrants were usealed.

That didn't happen either.

Oh, well.
:shrug:

Kat

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by bookie



Tunnel vision. Some people won't accept that a spouse isn't guilty.

Maybe the police won't accept that Jason was at the hotel? [/*]

Is it tunnel vision or perhaps just sheer laziness? These guys waited over a year to even look for shirt, shoes, jewelry. They couldn't even manage to return the search warrants in a timely fashion, which makes the DA look as inept as Nifong.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If that's the case then why haven't they switched gears and started looking for the real killer? Why for two years continue to pursue someone that has a solid alibli? The only way they'd do that is if they believe Jason hired a hitman and I don't believe that's the case.

I think it's only a matter of time before Jason is arrested for the murder of Michelle and LE will go with the CE they have if they can't get anything else on him.

And no Kat I don't know how many days, weeks or months that matter of time will be. LOL [/*]

There is a sealed warrant out there and it's highly doubtful it pertains to Jason Young. A Judge would not seal some warrants but not others that pertain to the same suspect. It's all or nothing.

[enigma™]

Still no link, Kat? :shrug:

Where's Gerald? Why isn't he on vacation with Mrs., et al? Has he jumped ship? :shrug:

Cassidy looks absolutely miserable in that "cave" picture. Now the picture with the helmet covering her features is probably the only one I'd put online if that were my child, but that's just me, and all the above is merely my most unhumble opinion.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Is it tunnel vision or perhaps just sheer laziness? These guys waited over a year to even look for shirt, shoes, jewelry. They couldn't even manage to return the search warrants in a timely fashion, which makes the DA look as inept as Nifong. [/*]



I don't know but maybe they thought everything they had would be enough and anything else would fall into place, and then when the lab results came back, it became not so clear.

Then they made a few mistakes along the way, called in some new investigators, went back to the home, issued more warrants.

Then the warrants get unsealed, the public gets to see what they were looking for, and now people , not just me, are all asking the same question.

Why no arrest?

Cause if you do not have it now, what is going to change to make you have it later?


:shrug:
Kat

[enigma™]

Originally posted by Celiarun


There is a sealed warrant out there and it's highly doubtful it pertains to Jason Young. A Judge would not seal some warrants but not others that pertain to the same suspect. It's all or nothing. [/*]

Link to all or nothing. :rolleyes:

[luna24]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



They are very good pics and shows he spends time with C and takes her everywhere, which I told everyone by the way.!!

You can just tell Jason is a devoted Dad!!
I knew it!!

snipped for space

Kat [/*]

I apologize if you answered this already from the last thread but do you know JY personally? Because you also posted this:

____________________________________
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


That is not at all true, C is in daycare while Jason works, other than that they are always together.
Always.

Kat [/*]

___________________________________

I'm wondering how else would you know they are always together if you don't know him?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by enigma™
Still no link, Kat? :shrug:

Where's Gerald? Why isn't he on vacation with Mrs., et al? Has he jumped ship? :shrug:

Cassidy looks absolutely miserable in that "cave" picture. Now the picture with the helmet covering her features is probably the only one I'd put online if that were my child, but that's just me, and all the above is merely my most unhumble opinion. [/*]

A lot of people put their kid's photos online. Some use them for their avatars at some sites. The child's photo was displayed at the Ladybug event and online. Who did that?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by enigma™
Still no link, Kat? :shrug:

Where's Gerald? Why isn't he on vacation with Mrs., et al? Has he jumped ship? :shrug:

Cassidy looks absolutely miserable in that "cave" picture. Now the picture with the helmet covering her features is probably the only one I'd put online if that were my child, but that's just me, and all the above is merely my most unhumble opinion. [/*]

............a link to the fact that Jason spends time with C?
Weren't the pics enough?

I would be upset if Jason traveled without C...

Maybe Gerald was taking the pics?

Could C look anymore like Jason?
She is so cute, she did look a little cranky in the pic, probably tired.
Isn't Jason in great shape?

:)

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by luna24


I apologize if you answered this already from the last thread but do you know JY personally? Because you also posted this:

____________________________________
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


That is not at all true, C is in daycare while Jason works, other than that they are always together.
Always.

Kat [/*]

___________________________________

I'm wondering how else would you know they are always together if you don't know him? [/*]


It has been posted repeatedly what a good Father Jason is, and the pics just prove it.

If we were to hear differently, CPS would jump on it, and apparently L E has no concern that she is with Jason.

Works for me.

Hope this helps.

Kat

ETA...
Plus, and this is a big plus, huge....
The Fishers have never filed a temp custody hearing!!!

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by enigma™


Link to all or nothing. :rolleyes: [/*]

It's an opinion forum. Believe it or do your own research.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


............a link to the fact that Jason spends time with C?
Weren't the pics enough?

I would be upset if Jason traveled without C...

Maybe Gerald was taking the pics?

Could C look anymore like Jason?
She is so cute, she did look a little cranky in the pic, probably tired.
Isn't Jason in great shape?

:)

Kat [/*] OMG -Poor child

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


It's an opinion forum. Believe it or do your own research. [/*]


Where is the link from the poster who promises an arrest by the end of the summer, or the one where we were promised that the media will be all over Brevard this week when news of the s/w's break?

That microphones would be in the Young faces and they would have to answer all questions finally.?

:shrug:

Kat

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles




I don't know but maybe they thought everything they had would be enough and anything else would fall into place, and then when the lab results came back, it became not so clear.

Then they made a few mistakes along the way, called in some new investigators, went back to the home, issued more warrants.

Then the warrants get unsealed, the public gets to see what they were looking for, and now people , not just me, are all asking the same question.

Why no arrest?

Cause if you do not have it now, what is going to change to make you have it later?


:shrug:
Kat [/*]

The most obvious reason as to explain why no arrest is because they didn't gather anything of evidentiary value in all those warrants. That's why the judge refused to seal the warrants, imvho,

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Schatzie
OMG -Poor child [/*]



Call CPS.

Call L E.

Call the Fishers.

If you think something is wrong, do something about it.
Not just post your opinion.

Kat

[enigma™]

Originally posted by annalyzer


A lot of people put their kid's photos online. Some use them for their avatars at some sites. The child's photo was displayed at the Ladybug event and online. Who did that? [/*]

Her father is using her to get dates, if you ask me. The ladybug lift-off photos have nothing on this despicable display. The lift-off was a memorial to her late mother - Michelle Young. Of course, since Cassidy wasn't permitted to be there in person, they had to use a picture of her.

as always - my most unhumble opinion.

[enigma™]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


............a link to the fact that Jason spends time with C?
Weren't the pics enough?

I would be upset if Jason traveled without C...

Maybe Gerald was taking the pics?

Could C look anymore like Jason?
She is so cute, she did look a little cranky in the pic, probably tired.
Isn't Jason in great shape?

:)

Kat [/*]

barf

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Celiarun


It's an opinion forum. Believe it or do your own research. [/*] I thought there were rules-say something -provide a link.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Where is the link from the poster who promises an arrest by the end of the summer, or the one where we were promised that the media will be all over Brevard this week when news of the s/w's break?

That microphones would be in the Young faces and they would have to answer all questions finally.?

:shrug:

Kat [/*]

ain't gonna happen. The tide has now turned in terms of public opinion. If LE had followed the evidence two years ago, this case may have had a chance to be solved. Instead, they waited over a year to search for shoes/shirt/jewelry.

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by enigma™


Her father is using her to get dates, if you ask me. The ladybug lift-off photos have nothing on this despicable display. The lift-off was a memorial to her late mother - Michelle Young. Of course, since Cassidy wasn't permitted to be there in person, they had to use a picture of her.

as always - my most unhumble opinion. [/*]

I don't know that to be a fact until I see a link to the actual ad at Craigslist. It's not hard to impersonate someone online. But anyhoo I was addressing what you said about putting children's photos online period, not in how they are used or not used once there.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles




Call CPS.

Call L E.

Call the Fishers.

If you think something is wrong, do something about it.
Not just post your opinion.

Kat [/*] My post went RIGHT over your head!

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Schatzie
I thought there were rules-say something -provide a link. [/*]

There is no rule that I'm aware of that requires a link to an opinion.

[enigma™]

Originally posted by Schatzie
I thought there were rules-say something -provide a link. [/*]

There are - that particular poster is notorious for requesting links. When provided, she refutes their relevance. When it (that poster) cannot provide a link (as per my request), it stoops to insults and tries to infer other posters lack intelligence.

But, back to the case - I feel justice for Michelle and Rylan is coming soon. These dating pictures won't have much, if any, relevance once the trial begins.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by enigma™


Her father is using her to get dates, if you ask me. The ladybug lift-off photos have nothing on this despicable display. The lift-off was a memorial to her late mother - Michelle Young. Of course, since Cassidy wasn't permitted to be there in person, they had to use a picture of her.

as always - my most unhumble opinion. [/*]


I am not going to argue this point with you all day, these were nice family photos of people on vacation.

Not pics of Jason in a hot tub surrounded by women. although I am sure they are coming. :rolleyes:

How does one hook ~up using a child, most people would run away if someone started talking about kids that soon.

Look, I know there is no arrest, and I know that whatever you can find (not you, personally) is going to hit the net..and I know if it makes Jason look bad, you all are going to make sure it gets out.

But, pics of Jason and C are precious to them and their family, and it shows that life, no matter how hard it is without Michelle, goes on.

I am sorry you do not see it that way.

Kat

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by enigma™


barf [/*] I double that-barf -barf

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Schatzie
My post went RIGHT over your head! [/*]

That's why I have been pushing for a ::::swoosh:::::: icon..

:)

Kat

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by enigma™


Her father is using her to get dates, if you ask me. The ladybug lift-off photos have nothing on this despicable display. The lift-off was a memorial to her late mother - Michelle Young. Of course, since Cassidy wasn't permitted to be there in person, they had to use a picture of her.

as always - my most unhumble opinion. [/*]

No, even if that posting is true, he isn't using his daughter to get dates. :read: He makes it clear upfront he has a daughter and that she is very important to him. Attempts to twist that into something sinister doesn't make it true but it sure makes it easy to win a defamation case. :rolleyes:

[enigma™]

Originally posted by Celiarun


There is no rule that I'm aware of that requires a link to an opinion. [/*]

And nowhere did you state it was your opinion, that is why I requested a link. :rolleyes:

edit to show original post for which I asked for a link:

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Originally posted by Celiarun


There is a sealed warrant out there and it's highly doubtful it pertains to Jason Young. A Judge would not seal some warrants but not others that pertain to the same suspect. It's all or nothing. [/*]

:rolleyes:

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Celiarun


There is no rule that I'm aware of that requires a link to an opinion. [/*] Well it doesn't work for everyone.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



I am not going to argue this point with you all day, these were nice family photos of people on vacation.

Not pics of Jason in a hot tub surrounded by women. although I am sure they are coming. :rolleyes:

How does one hook ~up using a child, most people would run away if someone started talking about kids that soon.

Look, I know there is no arrest, and I know that whatever you can find (not you, personally) is going to hit the net..and I know if it makes Jason look bad, you all are going to make sure it gets out.

But, pics of Jason and C are precious to them and their family, and it shows that life, no matter how hard it is without Michelle, goes on.

I am sorry you do not see it that way.

Kat [/*]

I saw only three photos, one included his mother and attempts to twist them to make Jason look bad are pretty lame. Fortunately, there are laws about painting someone in a false light and I'm sure Jason's attorney knows all about it.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by bookie



Did police bother to watch the video to see if someone else put the rock in the door? [/*]Does the video show JY exiting out that door or does he keep walking?

[Schatzie]

This sure sounds lile the Scott Peterson case- all the women crazy for him. I'm sure nothing has changed-be it SP JY or BC.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Schatzie
This sure sounds lile the Scott Peterson case- all the women crazy for him. I'm sure nothing has changed-be it SP JY or BC. [/*]

Not me, I thought SP was guilty as sin, don't know that much about the Cooper case, I don't post there, wouldn't surprize me if Brad killed her though..

This is my only hold~out, sorry!!

:)
Kat

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles




How does one hook ~up using a child, most people would run away if someone started talking about kids that soon.

Kat [/*]

In most cases a single father with a child is sweet and a lot of women would find that attractive. In Jason's case I don't think even a darling little girl would help him find a date. I'm not referring to his looks but the fact that his wife was murdered and LE are pursuing him for the murder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of that! :chicken:

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


I saw only three photos, one included his mother and attempts to twist them to make Jason look bad are pretty lame. Fortunately, there are laws about painting someone in a false light and I'm sure Jason's attorney knows all about it. [/*]

I bet he does now.
:)
Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by enigma™


(snipped)

But, back to the case - I feel justice for Michelle and Rylan is coming soon. These dating pictures won't have much, if any, relevance once the trial begins. [/*]

I think these recent photos of Jason with Cassidy might be relevant at time of trial.

IIRC, there were rumors floating that Jason responded to personal ads before and during his marriage to Michelle. It's possible that Jason used Mr. Garrison to reel in potential prospects from personal ads.

Remember? Cassidy nor Mr. Garrison were harmed during the staged robbery.

I also think the "lucky find" of the partial tooth fragment might become relevant at time of trial.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by annalyzer


In most cases a single father with a child is sweet and a lot of women would find that attractive. In Jason's case I don't think even a darling little girl would help him find a date. I'm not referring to his looks but the fact that his wife was murdered and LE are pursuing him for the murder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of that! :chicken: [/*]


Well, then we have nothing to worry about and can get back to discussing who killed Michelle.

Cool.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I think these recent photos of Jason with Cassidy might be relevant at time of trial.

IIRC, there were rumors floating that Jason responded to personal ads before and during his marriage to Michelle. It's possible that Jason used Mr. Garrison to reel in potential prospects from personal ads.

Remember? Cassidy nor Mr. Garrison were harmed during the staged robbery.

I also think the "lucky find" of the partial tooth fragment might become relevant at time of trial. [/*]

What trial?
:confused:

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


I saw only three photos, one included his mother and attempts to twist them to make Jason look bad are pretty lame. Fortunately, there are laws about painting someone in a false light and I'm sure Jason's attorney knows all about it. [/*]


LOL! I guess you haven't yet seen the enhanced photos of those images?

Yes, they are available online if you can do a simple search!

[fourier]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

It has been posted repeatedly what a good Father Jason is, and the pics just prove it.
[/*]


The photos are a snapshot in time.
They do not prove one way or the other if Jason is a good father or not.

If know he is always with C, please tell us how you know that. I think that is your opinion only and would appreciate you posting it as such.

Thanks!
:)

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by annalyzer


In most cases a single father with a child is sweet and a lot of women would find that attractive. In Jason's case I don't think even a darling little girl would help him find a date. I'm not referring to his looks but the fact that his wife was murdered and LE are pursuing him for the murder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of that! :chicken: [/*] Some women are so desparate they will marry anyone. SP still gets mail from those women. I have a book re: women who love these ppl. barf Crazy crazy!

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



LOL! I guess you haven't yet seen the enhanced photos of those images?

Yes, they are available online if you can do a simple search! [/*]




I saw them.........same photos only enlarged..

:rolleyes:

Kat

[luna24]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



It has been posted repeatedly what a good Father Jason is, and the pics just prove it.

If we were to hear differently, CPS would jump on it, and apparently L E has no concern that she is with Jason.

Works for me.

Hope this helps.

Kat

ETA...
Plus, and this is a big plus, huge....
The Fishers have never filed a temp custody hearing!!! [/*]

wow you seem to jump to conclusions easily:

1) Just because things are posted repeatedly, doesn't make them true. Also, whether someone is a good father, is an opinion, not a fact anyway.

2) You said specifically that "they are always together. Always" -- just because you see them in pictures a lot, doesn't make that true either.

3) Just because someone poses in a nice picture with their child, doesn't make them a good father. I've seen photos with people smiling with their loved ones, who they wind up killing shortly after.

4) Just because the Fisher's haven't made a move for custody of Cassidy, doesn't mean they think he's a good father or innocent of killing their daughter. They may simply be waiting for the investigation to be closed because they probably don't have much legal ground right now until if and when he's accused of a crime.

I'm not saying he's not a good father -- I have no idea but I don't think you do either....

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by enigma™


And nowhere did you state it was your opinion, that is why I requested a link. :rolleyes:

edit to show original post for which I asked for a link:

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Originally posted by Celiarun


There is a sealed warrant out there and it's highly doubtful it pertains to Jason Young. A Judge would not seal some warrants but not others that pertain to the same suspect. It's all or nothing. [/*]

[/*]

I'm not required to state on every post that it is my opinion nor am I required to provide a link to my opinion.
I suggest you take time to :read: the rules. :rolleyes: backatcha.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by fourier



The photos are a snapshot in time.
They do not prove one way or the other if Jason is a good father or not.

If know he is always with C, please tell us how you know that. I think that is your opinion only and would appreciate you posting it as such.

Thanks!
:) [/*]

So, you don't think that C's daycare, or CPS or L E would in some way monitor Jason's influence in C's life, and how he treats her?

You are saying, what I have been saying for months, that L E just handed her back over to Jason (who they think murdered her Mom) without any doubts of her safety or well being?

And, the Fishers, where are they with their concerns?

Thought so.

Kat

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



I saw them.........same photos only enlarged..

:rolleyes:

Kat [/*]

Are you all referring to the "online dating" photos?

[enigma™]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I think these recent photos of Jason with Cassidy might be relevant at time of trial.

IIRC, there were rumors floating that Jason responded to personal ads before and during his marriage to Michelle. It's possible that Jason used Mr. Garrison to reel in potential prospects from personal ads.

Remember? Cassidy nor Mr. Garrison were harmed during the staged robbery.

I also think the "lucky find" of the partial tooth fragment might become relevant at time of trial. [/*]

OK, I see what you mean. I was thinking maybe during the penalty phase, but I agree, they could come into play during the CIC.

As for the tooth fragment - I always thought there was something strange about that. Never could figure out why it wasn't left where it was found and LE called to handle it. Now we hear there is a missing "tooth fairy" box - something is rotten in the state of NC. (to paraphrase the Bard - OK, so I rewrote him!)

Be it ever so unhumble - this and all my posts are my opinion.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by annalyzer


In most cases a single father with a child is sweet and a lot of women would find that attractive. In Jason's case I don't think even a darling little girl would help him find a date. I'm not referring to his looks but the fact that his wife was murdered and LE are pursuing him for the murder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of that! :chicken: [/*]

I think the first photo at NCW doesn't even resemble Jason. It's possible he was using an anonymous name. I had heard he was dating a woman from Georgia from 6/07-12/07?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by luna24


wow you seem to jump to conclusions easily:

1) Just because things are posted repeatedly, doesn't make them true. Also, whether someone is a good father, is an opinion, not a fact anyway.

2) You said specifically that "they are always together. Always" -- just because you see them in pictures a lot, doesn't make that true either.

3) Just because someone poses in a nice picture with their child, doesn't make them a good father. I've seen photos with people smiling with their loved ones, who they wind up killing shortly after.

4) Just because the Fisher's haven't made a move for custody of Cassidy, doesn't mean they think he's a good father or innocent of killing their daughter. They may simply be waiting for the investigation to be closed because they probably don't have much legal ground right now until if and when he's accused of a crime.

I'm not saying he's not a good father -- I have no idea but I don't think you do either.... [/*]


Where is anything to refute Jason is not a good Dad?

Has CPS been called out to the home?

Have child endangerment charges been filed?

Has L E expressed any concern over turning the child back to him?

Have their been any complaints from Day Care?

Have the therapy notes turned up anything that shows Jason should not be near C?

Have the Fishers filed the necessary court papers to have a temp custody hearing?

Have any of these things happened?

Nope, therefore;
Jason=good father.


Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by annalyzer


Are you all referring to the "online dating" photos? [/*]


JDI's =online dating

JII=family vacations

:shrug:

Kat

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by janesdean


the picture of jason with cassidy in some cave in puerto rico is absolutely frightening of jason. [/*]

Talk about frightening. I just went and looked at the pic again. I wonder how far down it is from the railing Jason has the child propped on?

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image_gallery/3409423/?idx=1

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by janesdean


the picture of jason with cassidy in some cave in puerto rico is absolutely frightening of jason. [/*]

Scary?
Evil?
Eeerie?

Did you report it?

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by janesdean


the picture of jason with cassidy in some cave in puerto rico is absolutely frightening of jason. [/*]

I agree! At first glance it almost looks like he got too much sun whilst hiking thru the caves in Puerto Rico. But, since he comes from the hills of NC--he may have simply fell asleep under a heat lamp prior to his trip to PR! He looks like he got FRIED from something other than natural sunrays.

[enigma™]

You all know those addendums to "R" rated movies - something like, "children under 17 not admitted without a parent or guardian"? Is it possible Jason has one of those attached to his keeping custody of Cassidy?

Jason Young - not permitted to go on vacation with his daughter, Cassidy, without the supervision of a parent, Mrs. Pat Young/McEntyre (sp) or other adult.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by janesdean
snipped from k4e's post:
Where is anything to refute Jason is not a good Dad?
Has CPS been called out to the home?
Have child endangerment charges been filed?
Has L E expressed any concern over turning the child back to him?
Have the therapy notes turned upanything that shows Jason should not be near C?
*********
Not one person on this board knows the answer to any of your questions, including you. [/*]


If any of them were true, we would know.
Hope this helps.

Kat

[enigma™]

Originally posted by annalyzer


Talk about frightening. I just went and looked at the pic again. I wonder how far down it is from the railing Jason has the child propped on?

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image_gallery/3409423/?idx=1 [/*]

YIKES! No wonder Cassidy looks so scared. Reminds me of MJ & his "danglings".

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by enigma™
You all know those addendums to "R" rated movies - something like, "children under 17 not admitted without a parent or guardian"? Is it possible Jason has one of those attached to his keeping custody of Cassidy?

Jason Young - not permitted to go on vacation with his daughter, Cassidy, without the supervision of a parent, Mrs. Pat Young/McEntyre (sp) or other adult. [/*]

I think if he did we'd heard about it. He hasn't been charged with anything so I don't see how they could do that.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by annalyzer


Talk about frightening. I just went and looked at the pic again. I wonder how far down it is from the railing Jason has the child propped on?

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image_gallery/3409423/?idx=1 [/*] Reminds me of M. Jackson lifting & holding the baby over a railing. Still can't watch it as the babies legs get scaped on the railing.

[enigma™]

Originally posted by annalyzer


I think if he did we'd heard about it. He hasn't been charged with anything so I don't see how they could do that. [/*]

True, we probably would have heard something by now. But, aren't most proceedings involving children kept pretty quiet?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by enigma™


Her father is using her to get dates, if you ask me. The ladybug lift-off photos have nothing on this despicable display. The lift-off was a memorial to her late mother - Michelle Young. Of course, since Cassidy wasn't permitted to be there in person, they had to use a picture of her.

as always - my most unhumble opinion. [/*]
No, NCMW is trying to pass off 'something' as a craigslist post when it is not. Even going so far as to say that JY uploaded some text (which is bull, as the purported 'post' isn't even a craigslist post) and that 'headers' from the 'post' and 'photos' reveal dates that JY 'posted' them (again, more bull as craigslist postings have no header info).


There was NEWS report that Cassidy attended the ladybug party.

:read:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Schatzie
Reminds me of M. Jackson lifting & holding the baby over a railing. Still can't watch it as the babies legs get scaped on the railing. [/*]

Well I wouldn't go that far but she doesn't look very comfortable in that photo. I know when I was little heights scared me to death.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by enigma™
You all know those addendums to "R" rated movies - something like, "children under 17 not admitted without a parent or guardian"? Is it possible Jason has one of those attached to his keeping custody of Cassidy?

Jason Young - not permitted to go on vacation with his daughter, Cassidy, without the supervision of a parent, Mrs. Pat Young/McEntyre (sp) or other adult. [/*]:rolleyes:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by annalyzer


Well I wouldn't go that far but she doesn't look very comfortable in that photo. I know when I was little heights scared me to death. [/*]The man in that photo doesn't even look like JY. :shrug:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by enigma™


True, we probably would have heard something by now. But, aren't most proceedings involving children kept pretty quiet? [/*]like how quiet they kept the custody issue with the Cooper children?

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by enigma™


YIKES! No wonder Cassidy looks so scared. Reminds me of MJ & his "danglings". [/*] Sorry I did not know you had posted the same. You said it better.

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by enigma™


True, we probably would have heard something by now. But, aren't most proceedings involving children kept pretty quiet? [/*]

He hasn't been charged with anything and unless someone reported him for child neglect/abuse no one can order that there has to be someone else present on his vacations, etc. IMO

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


can you show some links or proof of what you are claiming here ? it sounds like bs to me LINK PLEASE [/*]
Go to craigslist and check out their postings. And read the other thread - all kinds of links there. :read:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by alter ego
The man in that photo doesn't even look like JY. :shrug: [/*]

I know, he looks oddly different but I'm sure it's him.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by enigma™


YIKES! No wonder Cassidy looks so scared. Reminds me of MJ & his "danglings". [/*]

:eek: Over that railing really does look steep! No wonder Cassidy looks scared. :mad:

I wonder if Jason was practicing for an "accident" to happen?

(Oops! While traveling in Puerto Rico, we were just enjoying the view from inside a cave and my daughter slipped over the railing. Dang! I think it was those stupid shoes she was wearing!!)...

[enigma™]

Originally posted by alter ego
like how quiet they kept the custody issue with the Cooper children? [/*]

Wasn't that negotiated behind closed doors? And then brought to the attention of the public by parties involved? What does this have anything to do with Jason having custody of Cassidy and a possible agreement that he be supervised? They are very private people, from all reports. :rolleyes:

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by annalyzer


I know, he looks oddly different but I'm sure it's him. [/*]Look @ his mouth then look @ his picture with Michelle-same mouth-yuck!

[alter ego]

Originally posted by annalyzer


I know, he looks oddly different but I'm sure it's him. [/*]
Hair is the wrong color and the nose doesn't seem right.

:shrug:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


:eek: Over that railing really does look steep! No wonder Cassidy looks scared. :mad:

I wonder if Jason was practicing for an "accident" to happen?

(Oops! While traveling in Puerto Rico, we were just enjoying the view from inside a cave and my daughter slipped over the railing. Dang! I think it was those stupid shoes she was wearing!!)... [/*]

I'm sorry folks but that photo makes my heart ache for that little girl and all she's been through. Poor little thing. :(

[alter ego]

Originally posted by enigma™


Wasn't that negotiated behind closed doors? And then brought to the attention of the public by parties involved? What does this have anything to do with Jason having custody of Cassidy and a possible agreement that he be supervised? They are very private people, from all reports. :rolleyes: [/*]One arrangement was negotiated behind closed doors. The battle prior to that negotiation are in court filings that are public record.

:rolleyes:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego

Hair is the wrong color and the nose doesn't seem right.

:shrug: [/*]

But the little girl does look like Cassidy, right?

Maybe Jason was using a photo of someone else with Cassidy and passing the photo as himself on personal ad websites?

:eek:

[tiny paw-prints]

Oh well. It's almost Labor Day weekend.

Maybe there'll be an arrest by that time?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


But the little girl does look like Cassidy, right?

Maybe Jason was using a photo of someone else with Cassidy and passing the photo as himself on personal ad websites?

:eek: [/*]

Or maybe it's his long lost evil twin, ya know, the real killer. :cool:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Where is anything to refute Jason is not a good Dad?

snip

Kat [/*]Just some really irresponsible 'journalism' and lots of rumor from the windmills of some very overactive imaginations.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean
Alter Ego:

Have you thought of contacting NC Most Wanted and telling them you think they are falsifying their report ? I really don't think a major TV Production Co. is going to make up things about Jason Young. Why on earth would they risk the lawsuit that would bring ? And, they hardly have to make things up about Jason, there is plenty of public known FACTS that are incriminating about him already. Maybe you should call your lawyer, what if they get you for Libelous, slanderous posting on a message board ? You don't even state IMO in your post !! Yikes !! [/*]
I've sent my concerns of the misleading and false info to the host news agency. Yes indeed.

As to the rest of your post - :lol:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


Can you provide LINKS to the above claims ThankYou [/*]How many times you gunna reply to that post of mine?

:read:

[enigma™]

Originally posted by alter ego
One arrangement was negotiated behind closed doors. The battle prior to that negotiation are in court filings that are public record.

:rolleyes: [/*]

And your point is? Is is not possible that the court and the Youngs came to some arrangement behind closed doors? Of course it is! Doesn't mean we know or ever will know about it. :rolleyes:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego

I've sent my concerns of the misleading and false info to the host news agency. Yes indeed.

As to the rest of your post - :lol: [/*]


Maybe there will be an arrest within the next few days, and that'll be your direct response from NCW!

Did you happen to view NCW's reenactment of the crime? And, Mrs. Young's adamant concerns directed to NCW about editing certain portions of the reenactment?

With the newly released photos by NCW, I highly doubt they want another 3-ring circus debut with Mrs. Young. JMO

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean
[QUOTE]Originally posted by alter ego No, NCMW is trying to pass off 'something' as a craigslist post when it is not. Even going so far as to say that JY uploaded some text (which is bull, as the purported 'post' isn't even a craigslist post) and that 'headers' from the 'post' and 'photos' reveal dates that JY 'posted' them (again, more bull as craigslist postings have no header info).
There was NEWS report that Cassidy attended the ladybug party.
've sent my concerns of the misleading and false info to the host news agency. Yes indeed.
As to the rest of your post -

Your original post seems like a little MORE than "your concerns", I'm interested in what kind of response you've received. And about that claim that Cassidy was present at the Ladybug Liftoff/Memorial for Michelle, where is that pesky link, I really would like to read that TIA:lol: [/*]
No, I said "There was NEWS report that Cassidy attended the ladybug party". And here it is:

She says she's hasn't seen the little girl since a lady bug liftoff event to honor Michelle months ago.

http://tinyurl.com/6m7cw7

Read away :lol:

Oh, and learn to quote properly. :rolleyes:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by enigma™


And your point is? Is is not possible that the court and the Youngs came to some arrangement behind closed doors? Of course it is! Doesn't mean we know or ever will know about it. :rolleyes: [/*]As if there is any reason for any such order. :rolleyes:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Maybe there will be an arrest within the next few days, and that'll be your direct response from NCW!

Did you happen to view NCW's reenactment of the crime? And, Mrs. Young's adamant concerns directed to NCW about editing certain portions of the reenactment?

With the newly released photos by NCW, I highly doubt they want another 3-ring circus debut with Mrs. Young. JMO [/*]
Why would there be an arrest within the next few day. GJ day has come and gone once again.

Not to mention, the warrants are 6 months old.

Nope, don't go to tabloids for reliable or accurate info. I see you hold them to a high journalistic standard tho. :lol:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego

Why would there be an arrest within the next few day. GJ day has come and gone once again.

Not to mention, the warrants are 6 months old.

Nope, don't go to tabloids for reliable or accurate info. I see you hold them to a high journalistic standard tho. :lol: [/*]

Doesn't appear that Jason has done much grieving since his wife's dead body was found. I wonder what kind of "story" he tells the unsuspecting young females as to "how" he became a young professional widower--how his previous wife died?

Perhaps, he tells them it was a "car accident" or "boating accident" ? :eek:

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by enigma™


And your point is? Is is not possible that the court and the Youngs came to some arrangement behind closed doors? Of course it is! Doesn't mean we know or ever will know about it. :rolleyes: [/*]


Why not?

Everytime Jason gets a speeding ticket it is posted.

:shrug:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Doesn't appear that Jason has done much grieving since his wife's dead body was found. I wonder what kind of "story" he tells the unsuspecting young females as to "how" he became a young professional widower--how his previous wife died?

Perhaps, he tells them it was a "car accident" or "boating accident" ? :eek: [/*]


It has been almost 2 years since he lost his Michelle.

How long would you like him to grieve?

Kat

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego

No, I said "There was NEWS report that Cassidy attended the ladybug party". And here it is:

She says she's hasn't seen the little girl since a lady bug liftoff event to honor Michelle months ago.

http://tinyurl.com/6m7cw7

Read away :lol:

Oh, and learn to quote properly. :rolleyes: [/*]

The comment about the Ladybug Liftoff wasn't a direct quote, AE. IIRC there were rumors that LF and MF saw Cassidy a day or so prior to the event. Journalistic license, I believe - not at all an implication by LF that Cassidy attended the event itself.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Also IIRC, there was a great deal of righteous indignation on the part of some posters because photos of Cassidy were visible in the coverage of the Ladybug Liftoff. I remember several posters who were outraged that the photos "put the child at risk." Interesting that those same posters have not expressed outrage at photos of Cassidy being allegedly posted online at craigslist.

JMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by alter ego

Why would there be an arrest within the next few day. GJ day has come and gone once again.

Not to mention, the warrants are 6 months old.

Nope, don't go to tabloids for reliable or accurate info. I see you hold them to a high journalistic standard tho. :lol: [/*]


Here's the best part.

This is a guy who is and has been under suspicion for his wife's murder for almost 2 years..

All he has tried to do, since then, is pick up the pieces of his life, go on working, and raise his daughter.

Everything he does is used against him in the court of public opinion.

Didn't an insider post that Jason and Michelle went to Puerto Rico for their honeymoon?

Maybe that is why he chose to go there for Michelle's memorial and took C?

I don't need to make excuses for him, he is a free man, and apparently, L E is not worried about him or making excuses for him either.

Kat

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



It has been almost 2 years since he lost his Michelle.

How long would you like him to grieve?

Kat [/*]

I had heard a rumor floating that he was dating a woman from Georgia from 06/07 to 12/07. Since I believe he was having more than a friendly relationship with Michelle Money during the time he was married to his wife, then I suspect it didn't take much time for him to encounter another friendly relationship after his wife was murdered, about 7 months later or less?

He must have bluffed his way into the heart of the gal from Georgia until she figured out the truth. Wadda guy, using his daughter as a prop while hanging onto his mother's apron strings.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Cardinal
Also IIRC, there was a great deal of righteous indignation on the part of some posters because photos of Cassidy were visible in the coverage of the Ladybug Liftoff. I remember several posters who were outraged that the photos "put the child at risk." Interesting that those same posters have not expressed outrage at photos of Cassidy being allegedly posted online at craigslist.

JMO [/*]

Because she is with her Father in the pics, and Jason has the right to make those decisions about her.

Sole custody and care giver=Jason Young.


Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I had heard a rumor floating that he was dating a woman from Georgia from 06/07 to 12/07. Since I believe he was having more than a friendly relationship with Michelle Money during the time he was married to his wife, then I suspect it didn't take much time for him to encounter another friendly relationship after his wife was murdered, about 7 months later or less?

He must have bluffed his way into the heart of the gal from Georgia until she figured out the truth. Wadda guy, using his daughter as a prop while hanging onto his mother's apron strings. [/*]


I am happy for him.

It is not going to be easy to ever replace Michelle.

More like impossible.

I wish him and C the best in whatever happiness they find.

Kat

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles


Because she is with her Father in the pics, and Jason has the right to make those decisions about her.

Sole custody and care giver=Jason Young.


Kat [/*]

He absolutely is, Kat. That isn't my point. My point is the lack of comparable outrage about her photos being posted on the internet.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



It has been almost 2 years since he lost his Michelle.

How long would you like him to grieve?

Kat [/*]

Certainly long enough to sit down and ask Wake County LE, "What happened? What can I do?"

Certainly long enough to show some compassion for Linda and Meredith.

Certainly long enough to lobby the N.C. legislature for the Fetal Homicide Act in Michelle and Rylan's honor.

Certainly long enough to attend Michelle's Memorial Service in NY.

Certainly long enough to attend Michelle's Birthday Mass.

Certainly long enough to attend the one year anniversary of her death, by taking Cassidy where all of Michelle's friends were, instead of partying in Puerto Rico.

Certainly long enough to put a headstone on her grave.

I'm sure there are others, but that's just off the top of my head.

MOO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Here's the best part.

This is a guy who is and has been under suspicion for his wife's murder for almost 2 years..

(snipped)....[/*]

Here's the worse part.

In almost 2 years, Jason remains silent.

Not cooperating. Not talking.

Consistent, eh?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


The comment about the Ladybug Liftoff wasn't a direct quote, AE. IIRC there were rumors that LF and MF saw Cassidy a day or so prior to the event. Journalistic license, I believe - not at all an implication by LF that Cassidy attended the event itself.

JMO [/*]I never claimed it was a 'direct quote'. I said there was a news report about it. I also never claimed it was accurate. I simply said there was a news report about it.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
I never claimed it was a 'direct quote'. I said there was a news report about it. I also never claimed it was accurate. I simply said there was a news report about it. [/*]

Ahhhh......

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Here's the worse part.

In almost 2 years, Jason remains silent.

Not cooperating. Not talking.

Consistent, eh? [/*]
Yeah, so? It's no more proof of guilt than talking/cooperating is proof of innocence.

If you have issues with our constitutional rights, you can either lobby to have them changed or move to a country that doesn't afford it's citizens the rights you find so worrysome.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Certainly ...

snipped for bandwidth

Swabby [/*]

But certainly not long enough for LE to have solved the crime.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal
Also IIRC, there was a great deal of righteous indignation on the part of some posters because photos of Cassidy were visible in the coverage of the Ladybug Liftoff. I remember several posters who were outraged that the photos "put the child at risk." Interesting that those same posters have not expressed outrage at photos of Cassidy being allegedly posted online at craigslist.

JMO [/*]Those pictures were not posted at craigslist.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego


But certainly not long enough for LE to have solved the crime. [/*]

I'm not so sure, AE. I don't think it's a coincidence that LE allowed the seal on those SWs to expire. They could easily have extended it.

Suppose.......it's intentional.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Those pictures were not posted at craigslist. [/*]

How do you know that?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I had heard a rumor floating that he was dating a woman from Georgia from 06/07 to 12/07. Since I believe he was having more than a friendly relationship with Michelle Money during the time he was married to his wife, then I suspect it didn't take much time for him to encounter another friendly relationship after his wife was murdered, about 7 months later or less?

He must have bluffed his way into the heart of the gal from Georgia until she figured out the truth. Wadda guy, using his daughter as a prop while hanging onto his mother's apron strings. [/*]Perhaps your time would be better served not wallowing in rumors.

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by alter ego


But certainly not long enough for LE to have solved the crime. [/*]


Excellent !! :beer:

If it makes people angry that Jason is trying to have some sort of life, then they should help get him arrested.

Let them go find the mysterious shirt or rock.

I think L E at this point could use all the help they can get, in fact, just recently, they asked for help.

Until then, Jason is free.

Kat

[enigma™]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Why not?

Everytime Jason gets a speeding ticket it is posted.

:shrug:

Kat [/*]

What part of "behind closed doors" (as in private/not public) isn't clicking with you? :shrug:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


How do you know that? [/*]Because what is purported to be a craigslist posting isn't one at all. Photos at craigslist that appear in posts are uploaded from your PC, there is no linking to a URL. There are no conversational posts at craigslist. If you wish to respond to a post, you click the link to email the poster and that response is not displayed anywhere at craigslist.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Perhaps your time would be better served not wallowing in rumors. [/*]

Yeah, and it looks as though you've posted a lot of credible information with links since Sept 2007, less than a year, eh?

:read:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I'm not so sure, AE. I don't think it's a coincidence that LE allowed the seal on those SWs to expire. They could easily have extended it.

Suppose.......it's intentional.

JMO [/*]LE didn't allow it. The judge ordered it.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Because what is purported to be a craigslist posting isn't one at all. Photos at craigslist that appear in posts are uploaded from your PC, there is no linking to a URL. There are no conversational posts at craigslist. If you wish to respond to a post, you click the link to email the poster and that response is not displayed anywhere at craigslist. [/*]

I've never used that site, so I'll take your word for it. But then my question is, where did those photos come from? They were obviously private, family photos. How did NCW get them?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Yeah, and it looks as though you've posted a lot of credible information with links since Sept 2007, less than a year, eh?

:read: [/*]99.9% more than you.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I've never used that site, so I'll take your word for it. But then my question is, where did those photos come from? They were obviously private, family photos. How did NCW get them? [/*]The 3 pics are all alone in a public album on photobucket.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
LE didn't allow it. The judge ordered it. [/*]

BUT I don't think it would have been at all difficult for LE to request an order extending the seal, and have it granted. They didn't. Why not?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
The 3 pics are all alone in a public album on photobucket. [/*]

So you think it's a setup? By whom? Who would have the photos to do that?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Because what is purported to be a craigslist posting isn't one at all. Photos at craigslist that appear in posts are uploaded from your PC, there is no linking to a URL. There are no conversational posts at craigslist. If you wish to respond to a post, you click the link to email the poster and that response is not displayed anywhere at craigslist. [/*]


Psst! It doesn't appear that JLY made his photobucket a private one. He shared those photos with another Person, who then forwarded them to NCW. Maybe.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


He absolutely is, Kat. That isn't my point. My point is the lack of comparable outrage about her photos being posted on the internet. [/*]I'm absolutely outraged that NCMW posted her image and then had the audacity to put their logo on them and try to claim copyright!

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Psst! It doesn't appear that JLY made his photobucket a private one. He shared those photos with another Person, who then forwarded them to NCW. Maybe. [/*]Psssst that's not what was reported by NCMW.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Excellent !! :beer:

If it makes people angry that Jason is trying to have some sort of life, then they should help get him arrested.

Let them go find the mysterious shirt or rock.

I think L E at this point could use all the help they can get, in fact, just recently, they asked for help.

Until then, Jason is free.

Kat [/*]


It also makes people angry that you would toast the BLUDGEONING death of a Mother and an unborn child, who just happened to have the bad luck of having a noncooperative, non-loving, non-caring husband and father to stand up for them.

What about the "last act of kindness"? I know Jason can't do much...but he could at least do SOMETHING?

Nebbermind, Jason started movin' on, on the trip back to Raleigh from Brevard, apparently with your blessings.

Jason will NEVER be free! Not as long as I have breath in my body. And, I'm not even in LE and watching his every move.

MOO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
The 3 pics are all alone in a public album on photobucket. [/*]

Excuse Me?

That would be your Opinion, if you do Not provide a link to the source: public album on photobucket.

Thank you. :D

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
I'm absolutely outraged that NCMW posted her image and then had the audacity to put their logo on them and try to claim copyright! [/*]

My question still is, who could have made those photos available?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


So you think it's a setup? By whom? Who would have the photos to do that? [/*]I have no idea where the photos came from or who uploaded them to photobucket.

But I have all kinds of doubts about what NCMW reported as a craigslist posting by JY.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Excuse Me?

That would be your Opinion, if you do Not provide a link to the source: public album on photobucket.

Thank you. :D [/*]No, it's a fact. The link was posted upthread or in the other thead. :read:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by 5swab5

snip

Jason will NEVER be free! Not as long as I have breath in my body. And, I'm not even in LE and watching his every move.

MOO

Swabby [/*]:rolleyes:

As if you have any power over JY's freedom.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
I have no idea where the photos came from or who uploaded them to photobucket.

But I have all kinds of doubts about what NCMW reported as a craigslist posting by JY. [/*]

No offense, but I hope you're wrong. Because otherwise, someone has perpetuated an ugly hoax.

And that's not acceptable.

JMO

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by alter ego
Those pictures were not posted at craigslist. [/*]

ITA. The craigslist stuff seems totally bogus. And the photos on the photobucket page don't identify anyone by their name, address, no identifying info whatsoever.

[SayNothing]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Here's the best part.

This is a guy who is and has been under suspicion for his wife's murder for almost 2 years..

All he has tried to do, since then, is pick up the pieces of his life, go on working, and raise his daughter.

Everything he does is used against him in the court of public opinion.

Didn't an insider post that Jason and Michelle went to Puerto Rico for their honeymoon?

Maybe that is why he chose to go there for Michelle's memorial and took C?

I don't need to make excuses for him, he is a free man, and apparently, L E is not worried about him or making excuses for him either.

Kat [/*]

What he has tried to do is go on living like he didn't beat his wife to death and hope everyone would just forget about it. IMO

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


No offense, but I hope you're wrong. Because otherwise, someone has perpetuated an ugly hoax.

And that's not acceptable.

JMO [/*]Well, I can guarantee you that what NCMW claims was a post made on craigslist, complete with photos, by JY is completely false.

As I stated, craigslist is not a message board, there isn't conversation. It's just ads or posts and the responses to those posts are done via email. What NCMW claims to be a craigslist posting starts out claiming 'your post was a breath of fresh air' or some such nonsense. That is clearly a response to an ad/post and it would have been in an email to the poster - not posted on craigslist as that idiot at NCMW claims.

If JY responded to a post at craigslist, it was thru a private email, NOT a public post. If JY shared photos in any response to a post at craigslist, it was thru private email, NOT a public post.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by SayNothing


What he has tried to do is going on living like he didn't beat his wife to death and hope everyone would just forget about it. IMO [/*]He did? When did you read his mind to determine this?

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Cardinal


BUT I don't think it would have been at all difficult for LE to request an order extending the seal, and have it granted. They didn't. Why not? [/*]

Read the documents. The Judge refused to allow that option.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Well, I can guarantee you that what NCMW claims was a post made on craigslist, complete with photos, by JY is completely false.

As I stated, craigslist is not a message board, there isn't conversation. It's just ads or posts and the responses to those posts are done via email. What NCMW claims to be a craigslist posting starts out claiming 'your post was a breath of fresh air' or some such nonsense. That is clearly a response to an ad/post and it would have been in an email to the poster - not posted on craigslist as that idiot at NCMW claims.

If JY responded to a post at craigslist, it was thru a private email, NOT a public post. If JY shared photos in any response to a post at craigslist, it was thru private email, NOT a public post. [/*]

So, is it possible or not that the text and photos were provided through email, and then made available to NCMW?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Celiarun


ITA. The craigslist stuff seems totally bogus. And the photos on the photobucket page don't identify anyone by their name, address, no identifying info whatsoever. [/*]Wonder how much NCMW paid for that 'post' and photos?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


ITA. The craigslist stuff seems totally bogus. And the photos on the photobucket page don't identify anyone by their name, address, no identifying info whatsoever. [/*]

Are you denying those photos are Jason?

Somebody provided those photos to NCW. That person might have provided the photos to NCW and told them they were in response to an ad at Craigslist. Then, NCW may have run with that info, rather than first Verifying the "Craigslist" info.

Regardless, you cannot deny these photos are of Jason, Cassidy and Mrs. Young. The photos depicted are Not a hoax. IMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Read the documents. The Judge refused to allow that option. [/*]

I've read the SWs. What documents are you talking about?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Are you denying those photos are Jason?

Somebody provided those photos to NCW. That person might have provided the photos to NCW and told them they were in response to an ad at Craigslist. Then, NCW may have run with that info, rather than first Verifying the "Craigslist" info.

Regardless, you cannot deny these photos are of Jason, Cassidy and Mrs. Young. The photos depicted are Not a hoax. IMO [/*]

I'm convinced the photos are of Jason and Cassidy. My question is, were they obtained as claimed?

[SayNothing]

Originally posted by alter ego
He did? When did you read his mind to determine this? [/*]
How long have you been posting on here? I'd say long enough to know what IMO means. Good grief. Talk about ... never mind IMO I don't think you'd understand.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Wonder how much NCMW paid for that 'post' and photos? [/*]

Maybe Det Spivey posed as the respondent to Jason's ad at Craigslist and NCW didn't pay a dime?

:lol:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


So, is it possible or not that the text and photos were provided through email, and then made available to NCMW? [/*]
They would have to be thru email, not by a craigslist posting as claimed by NCMW. I would love to see NCMW prove that JY wrote those words. Altho I'm sure they can't.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by alter ego
Well, I can guarantee you that what NCMW claims was a post made on craigslist, complete with photos, by JY is completely false.

As I stated, craigslist is not a message board, there isn't conversation. It's just ads or posts and the responses to those posts are done via email. What NCMW claims to be a craigslist posting starts out claiming 'your post was a breath of fresh air' or some such nonsense. That is clearly a response to an ad/post and it would have been in an email to the poster - not posted on craigslist as that idiot at NCMW claims.

If JY responded to a post at craigslist, it was thru a private email, NOT a public post. If JY shared photos in any response to a post at craigslist, it was thru private email, NOT a public post. [/*]

To borrow Ted Williams' favorite phrase, NC Wanted is stuck on stupid for pulling such a stunt and exploiting the child's photo in such a sensational manner. Being tied to that junk must be a real embarassment for John Walsh, who worked so diligently to get the Adam Walsh Act passed.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Maybe Det Spivey posed as the respondent to Jason's ad at Craigslist and NCW didn't pay a dime?

:lol: [/*]Det Spivey wouldn't be the respondent, he would have made the post on craigslist that was responded to. Ya recken he dressed in women's clothing to 'get in character' for that post?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


:shrug: [/*]Just twice then?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego

They would have to be thru email, not by a craigslist posting as claimed by NCMW. I would love to see NCMW prove that JY wrote those words. Altho I'm sure they can't. [/*]

It's impossible, IMO, to prove anyone wrote anything in an email without some serious technological proof.

JMO

[SayNothing]

Originally posted by alter ego
Det Spivey wouldn't be the respondent, he would have made the post on craigslist that was responded to. Ya recken he dressed in women's clothing to 'get in character' for that post? [/*] Could be why Jason was interested in her (him). Stranger things have happened. IMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Det Spivey wouldn't be the respondent, he would have made the post on craigslist that was responded to. Ya recken he dressed in women's clothing to 'get in character' for that post? [/*]

I think it's unfair to assign any responsibility to Det. Spivey. IF it's a hoax, he wouldn't be my first choice. Or my 5th.

JMO

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I've read the SWs. What documents are you talking about? [/*]

Judge's 08/08/08 Order

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2008/08/18/3394724/20080815114400272.pdf

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Celiarun


To borrow Ted Williams' favorite phrase, NC Wanted is stuck on stupid for pulling such a stunt and exploiting the child's photo in such a sensational manner. Being tied to that junk must be a real embarassment for John Walsh, who worked so diligently to get the Adam Walsh Act passed. [/*]A complete disgrace.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Judge's 08/08/08 Order

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2008/08/18/3394724/20080815114400272.pdf [/*]

Thank you. I hadn't seen that. I'll have to rethink my theory. :D

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


You need a break... [/*]:rolleyes:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean
snipped from ae's post:

[QUOTE][i]\
Originally posted by alter ego no, I said "There was NEWS report that Cassidy attended the ladybug party".
************'

OH !! I see !! YOU were spreading some rumor you heard and YOU have no LINK [/*]Nope, I posted a link to the news article.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I think it's unfair to assign any responsibility to Det. Spivey. IF it's a hoax, he wouldn't be my first choice. Or my 5th.

JMO [/*]Mine either, but Tiny seems to think so.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


It's impossible, IMO, to prove anyone wrote anything in an email without some serious technological proof.

JMO [/*]Well they made the claim that it came from JY and that they verified it was from JY.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by alter ego
Det Spivey wouldn't be the respondent, he would have made the post on craigslist that was responded to. Ya recken he dressed in women's clothing to 'get in character' for that post? [/*]

nah. Too lazy, imo.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Mine either, but Tiny seems to think so. [/*]

I'm calling it a night, AE. :)

I have to say though, the probable cause in the SWs made public this week have given me a lot to think about. The shirt, the rock, the keycard access records, and the timeline.............you know, I still have a problem with the missing time between the Clintwood meeting and the Brevard arrival.

JMO :seeya:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by SayNothing
Could be why Jason was interested in her (him). Stranger things have happened. IMO [/*]

Well, whoever he, she or it was, they were
a "breath of fresh air" ... :eek:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


Well, you say you contacted them and told them of your position that they reported lies, what did they tell you ? Have they responded to you yet ? [/*]

Hmmm.

Originally posted by janesdean
hi ae, have you received that response from NCMW yet ? Can't wait to hear what they have to say about your accusations of false reporting by their staff.

:read:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I'm calling it a night, AE. :)

I have to say though, the probable cause in the SWs made public this week have given me a lot to think about. The shirt, the rock, the keycard access records, and the timeline.............you know, I still have a problem with the missing time between the Clintwood meeting and the Brevard arrival.

JMO :seeya: [/*]

Lots to talk about, that's for sure.

Have great night! :seeya:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Well, whoever he, she or it was, they were
a "breath of fresh air" ... :eek: [/*]Wrong.

The ad they placed was a breath of fresh air.

:read:

[SayNothing]

Alter ego-

I have a question that I'd really like your opinion on. What do you think about the 2 shoe impressions? This is the only thing I can't seem to reason. First of all I believe the intention was to strangle Michelle to death so there wouldn't be any blood to plant the different size shoe impressions. What are the odds that he lucked up and "accidentally" left two different size shoe impressions? That doesn't make sense to me.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Mine either, but Tiny seems to think so. [/*]

No. You had insinuated that NCW may have paid a lot of money to the person who provided the photos. I merely suggested that it might be Det Spivey and therefore, neither Spivey or NCW would require an exchange of monies!

I think it was somebody who already had the photos in their possession, for whatever reason, perhaps holding onto them for awhile, and merely forwarded them to NCW after the SW news came to light. Maybe the recent surveillance video of Jason at Hampton was all the info that person needed to throw them off the fence?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Judge's 08/08/08 Order

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/news_briefs/2008/08/18/3394724/20080815114400272.pdf [/*]


LE asked for an additional 90 days, but was only given 10.

I guess the Honorable Judge Stephens told them!

Kat

[shack]

Originally posted by janesdean


Well, you say you contacted them and told them of your position that they reported lies, what did they tell you ? Have they responded to you yet ? [/*]
Well a David Creech from NCwanted emailed us. In a nut shell he says thanks for pointing out this possible decrepancy. He also states that it is being looked into. He identifies himself as the executive producer. If you people down there would apply a little pressure on these non truth reports you might get some action. I can assure you that it will be pursued from North of the Ohio.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Wrong.

The ad they placed was a breath of fresh air.

:read: [/*]

Who is "they"?

I thought it was Jason's ad.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by shack

Well a David Creech from NCwanted emailed us. In a nut shell he says thanks for pointing out this possible decrepancy. He also states that it is being looked into. He identifies himself as the executive producer. If you people down there would apply a little pressure on these non truth reports you might get some action. I can assure you that it will be pursued from North of the Ohio. [/*]

:D thanks!

[luna24]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Where is anything to refute Jason is not a good Dad?

Has CPS been called out to the home?

Have child endangerment charges been filed?

Has L E expressed any concern over turning the child back to him?

Have their been any complaints from Day Care?

Have the therapy notes turned up anything that shows Jason should not be near C?

Have the Fishers filed the necessary court papers to have a temp custody hearing?

Have any of these things happened?

Nope, therefore;
Jason=good father.


Kat [/*]
I guess it depends on your definition of a good father...to me, it's more than there not being a bad report by the day care or CPS being called to the home..there are a lot of bad fathers out there who never get CPS called on them, nor get anything reported by day care.

Again, what grounds do LE or the Fishers have for keeping CY away from him until he's officially charged with a crime? None right now -- but again, that doesn't = good father as much as you'd like to believe that...

I'm still waiting for your answer as to how you know that JY is always with Cassidy when she's not at day care..always.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by shack

Well a David Creech from NCwanted emailed us. In a nut shell he says thanks for pointing out this possible decrepancy. He also states that it is being looked into. He identifies himself as the executive producer. If you people down there would apply a little pressure on these non truth reports you might get some action. I can assure you that it will be pursued from North of the Ohio. [/*]

Could I have his email addy please? I would like to thank them for all their diligent work in Michelle and Rylan's murder.

Plus, that pic of the "grieving" widower in Puerto Rico on the Anniversary of Michelle & Rylan's annihilation was priceless.

TIA

Swabby

[shack]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Could I have his email addy please? I would like to thank them for all their diligent work in Michelle and Rylan's murder.

Plus, that pic of the "grieving" widower in Puerto Rico on the Anniversary of Michelle & Rylan's annihilation was priceless.

TIA

Swabby [/*]

I have pmed it to a chosen person , but I can't post on here as it shows all my info.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Could I have his email addy please? I would like to thank them for all their diligent work in Michelle and Rylan's murder.

Plus, that pic of the "grieving" widower in Puerto Rico on the Anniversary of Michelle & Rylan's annihilation was priceless.

TIA

Swabby [/*]

I'm sure NC Wanted would love to hear from their only fan. :lol:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by SayNothing
Alter ego-

I have a question that I'd really like your opinion on. What do you think about the 2 shoe impressions? This is the only thing I can't seem to reason. First of all I believe the intention was to strangle Michelle to death so there wouldn't be any blood to plant the different size shoe impressions. What are the odds that he lucked up and "accidentally" left two different size shoe impressions? That doesn't make sense to me. [/*]I agree, the intent was a soft kill.

Frankly, the different shoes and shoe sizes has me baffled.

Not only that there are shoe print impressions in blood, but they are both on a pillow. Makes me wonder why it was stepped on and not over. And was it a deliberate attempt to thwart the investigation or a clear indication of 2 perps?

And the newspaper delivery man saying all the lights, inside and out, were on between 4-5. What in the world was that all about?

[shack]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Could I have his email addy please? I would like to thank them for all their diligent work in Michelle and Rylan's murder.

Plus, that pic of the "grieving" widower in Puerto Rico on the Anniversary of Michelle & Rylan's annihilation was priceless.

TIA

Swabby [/*]

I guess I can give you their addy. Write them. Tell them to stop with the false reports. Stand up for your rights. When you stop standing for your rights , that is when your rights will start disappearing.

From "Creech, David" <dcreech@fox50.com
Date 2008/08/21 Thu PM 12:32:23 CDT

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Who is "they"?

I thought it was Jason's ad. [/*]You thought wrong.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


I'm sure NC Wanted would love to hear from their only fan. :lol: [/*]

Nah. Mrs. Young is a fan of NCW too!

:lol:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


still waiting, huh ? i bet you're real anxious to hear from NCMW eh AE ? [/*]I'm wondering why you keep responding twice to some of my posts with different writing styles and then not realizing that you have done so.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego


(snipped)..........

And the newspaper delivery man saying all the lights, inside and out, were on between 4-5. What in the world was that all about? [/*]

He killed her in the dark and then turned on the lights; so he could clean up, stage a robbery, shower, change clothes and shoes, and exit. IMO

[5swab5]

Originally posted by shack


I guess I can give you their addy. Write them. Tell them to stop with the false reports. Stand up for your rights. When you stop standing for your rights , that is when your rights will start disappearing.

From "Creech, David" <dcreech@fox50.com
Date 2008/08/21 Thu PM 12:32:23 CDT [/*]

Thanks Sweetie,

I will worry about my rights later. For right now tho, since Jason won't stand up for Michelle and Rylan I think it behooves us all to THANK the select few that are trying.

MOO

Swabby

[shack]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Psst! It doesn't appear that JLY made his photobucket a private one. He shared those photos with another Person, who then forwarded them to NCW. Maybe. [/*]

Psst! It appears you do more talking than reading. NCWanted SAID they picked them up off of a Internet Header.

[shack]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


I thought our rights came from the Constitution not TV Guide.
Isn’t freedom of the press one of the rights we should protect.
AND how have you determined that it is a false report?
You saying so does not make it so. [/*]

It wasn't my saying so , it was the words on a SW.

[SayNothing]

Originally posted by alter ego
I agree, the intent was a soft kill.

Frankly, the different shoes and shoe sizes has me baffled.

Not only that there are shoe print impressions in blood, but they are both on a pillow. Makes me wonder why it was stepped on and not over. And was it a deliberate attempt to thwart the investigation or a clear indication of 2 perps?

And the newspaper delivery man saying all the lights, inside and out, were on between 4-5. What in the world was that all about? [/*]
Thank you. Yeah all the lights being on seems rather odd too. The only thing I can come up with is I can see if you're running around frantic you may turn on all the lights in trying to get yourself together to get out of there? The whole shoe thing is very puzzling especially like you said that both prints were on the pillow. Were they ONLY on the pillow and not anywhere else in the room? I was reading somewhere else that JTF measured the prints with Jason's shoes when they went into the house after it was released. If that's true where did that print come from?

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


Maybe Jason sent them to the young lady himself.
Maybe the young lady was from the FBI……or Dateline.
Maybe she was wearing a red shirt ....with fibers. [/*]


Or maybe he was too trusting on the internet and thought he could share pics without it ending up hurting him and his daughter.

Maybe that's just the way Jason and others think, that the world is still full of good people..


:shrug:

JMO

KAt

[katy1974]

Originally posted by alter ego
Because what is purported to be a craigslist posting isn't one at all. Photos at craigslist that appear in posts are uploaded from your PC, there is no linking to a URL. There are no conversational posts at craigslist. If you wish to respond to a post, you click the link to email the poster and that response is not displayed anywhere at craigslist. [/*]

The woman who Jason communicated with and sent his profile to and his pics, contacted NCWanted, and she sent them to the news station( WRAL).

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



Or maybe he was too trusting on the internet and thought he could share pics without it ending up hurting him and his daughter.

Maybe that's just the way Jason and others think, that the world is still full of good people..


:shrug:

JMO

KAt [/*]

A "Good" father would not expose his daughter's pics to any nut on the internet! PERIOD, the end.

A "Good" father would also be concerned enough about the death of his daughter's mother and brother, that he would NOT HANG UP on LE!

MOO

Swabby

Not to mention......A "Good" father would get a divorce instead of a MagLite.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by katy1974


The woman who Jason communicated with and sent his profile to and his pics, contacted NCWanted, and she sent them to the news station( WRAL). [/*]

Sounds like she's the one trolling. I noticed NC Wanted didn't identify her or check out the fact that craigslist doesn't have message posting. Stupid is as stupid does. It's going to cost them a bundle, imvho.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Sounds like she's the one trolling. I noticed NC Wanted didn't identify her or check out the fact that craigslist doesn't have message posting. Stupid is as stupid does. It's going to cost them a bundle, imvho. [/*]

Katy's post doesn't say they communicated through the Craigslist message board, she merely says they communicated, not how they communicated.

NCW confirmed the info prior to posting it on NCW website.

I'm not surprised that Jason is spending his free time as a "good father" by chasing a "troll's tail" via the internet. Ugh.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what is the largest number of pages or threads devoted to a single topic on IS? [/*]

I'm not sure what the page count was but I think the record was the topic of "the science of raking leaves". I could be wrong.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


It will not cost them a thing. Jason would be required to file an action and give a statement. He ain’t talking. Where have you been? [/*]

You really are living in that same land of denial if you think defamation of character, misappropriation of a child's likeness and dissiminating it in a public forum, invading an individual's privacy and portraying them in a false light with malicious intent will have no consequences. This is textbook libel. There are no protections or privilege for NC Wanted or its owner. Stupidity costs big bucks. This is better than a wardrobe malfunction or an Imus expletive. :lol:

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


Maybe they were both trolling. But she didn’t just pick a random e-mail address. He would have had to been on the site as well.

Maybe he was looking to buy a used pair of Hushpuppies and a replacement dark shirt. [/*]

No, the email addresses aren't visible on craigslist. And there is no proof an email address belongs to Jason Young. I don't know how it's concluded Jason was trolling even if he did write the message. The text message I read was that he had a young daughter and if that fact was an issue with the woman, they weren't meant to be together. How is putting the best interests of his daughter first suddenly morphed into "trolling?" Do tell.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what is the largest number of pages or threads devoted to a single topic on IS? [/*]

I dunno but it sure has kept my printer busy today.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by wyatt


you can run, but you can't hide.... :lol: :lol: [/*]

:D

one ringy dingy......

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Barbara2


I'm not sure what the page count was but I think the record was the topic of "the science of raking leaves". I could be wrong. [/*]

LOL! I thought it was ...

"the science of how much a dog's bladder can hold" ?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by katy1974


The woman who Jason communicated with and sent his profile to and his pics, contacted NCWanted, and she sent them to the news station( WRAL). [/*]That's not what their 'story' says. They claim the 'message' from JY was a posting on craigslist, when there is no way it could be.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Celiarun


No, the email addresses aren't visible on craigslist. And there is no proof an email address belongs to Jason Young. I don't know how it's concluded Jason was trolling even if he did write the message. The text message I read was that he had a young daughter and if that fact was an issue with the woman, they weren't meant to be together. How is putting the best interests of his daughter first suddenly morphed into "trolling?" Do tell. [/*]And how does sending an email in response to an ad on craigslist constitute as 'posting on the internet'?

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Wyn


Might I suggest a jump drive? More "green", saves some of us a lot of paper. [/*]

Thanks but I need hard copies.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by alter ego
And how does sending an email in response to an ad on craigslist constitute as 'posting on the internet'? [/*]

You'll have to ask the un-educated minions who wrote it. I have no idea how they reached the conclusions they did. Clearly, there is no news director in charge, no ethics standards and very little knowledge of technology. Jason may have scored a trifecta with this one. :shrug:

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


So everybody lies but Jason. He is the last hope for truth and honor on our sad little planet? The cops and the media are all out to get him. What a sad little story. [/*]

I wouldn't go so far as to say all media are out to get Jason. There's only one so far. The others appear to be more professional with ethical standards.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


I think you are missing the BIG point here. He is not going to do anything. He will not put himself in a position where he must give a statement. He no talkie. [/*]

I'm not a betting person but if I were, I will bet the farm Jason's attorney is already drafting a cease and desist letter. He has an attorney to do the *talkie* for him.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


Just out of curiosity, when chasing ambulances (if they stop real fast) do you ever run into the back of them? [/*]

not yet.:D

[gbmy]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If that's the case then why haven't they switched gears and started looking for the real killer? Why for two years continue to pursue someone that has a solid alibli? The only way they'd do that is if they believe Jason hired a hitman and I don't believe that's the case.

I think it's only a matter of time before Jason is arrested for the murder of Michelle and LE will go with the CE they have if they can't get anything else on him.

And no Kat I don't know how many days, weeks or months that matter of time will be. LOL [/*]
They haven't switched gears because the spouse is usually the target to investigate and they probably think he's the perp. But, they also don't have enough evidence to arrest him which means they could be wrong......And, if they are, it means they've wasted 2 years and an enormous amount of time and money going after the wrong guy. If this turns out to be the case, let's just say it would not reflect positively on LE's judgement and utilization of resources that the taxpayers fund.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by katy1974


The woman who Jason communicated with and sent his profile to and his pics, contacted NCWanted, and she sent them to the news station( WRAL). [/*]also,,,,there isn't a 'profile' on craigslist.

[gbmy]

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles



So, have more search warrants been issued or is what they have enough now?

Part of the reason for my impatience is because posters have predicted and promised us dates of an arrest.

All of which have come and passed (except for the one at the end off the summer)

Would that be Labor day or the official last day of summer before fall begins?

Also, we were promised that swarms of reporters would be surrounding the Young home this week when the warrants were usealed.

That didn't happen either.

Oh, well.
:shrug:

Kat [/*]
Exactly Kat. We could be sharing thoughts on this board in the year 2020 and some will keep predicting how/when the case will be broken wide open. T

[alter ego]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


I think you are missing the BIG point here. He is not going to do anything. He will not put himself in a position where he must give a statement. He no talkie. [/*]He wouldn't have to 'give a statement'.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


So everybody lies but Jason. He is the last hope for truth and honor on our sad little planet? The cops and the media are all out to get him. What a sad little story. [/*]Huh? The story on NCMW is chock full of false statements. If you cared at all about the truth, you would be able to see that.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


I wouldn't go so far as to say all media are out to get Jason. There's only one so far. The others appear to be more professional with ethical standards. [/*]

Which media outlet is "out" to get Jason?

WRAL?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Thanks but I need hard copies. [/*]

Of what?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
Huh? The story on NCMW is chock full of false statements. If you cared at all about the truth, you would be able to see that. [/*]

I thought you all were more upset with Amanda Lamb?

BTW, what is NCMW?

AMW=America's Most Wanted
NCW=NCWanted

[alter ego]

Originally posted by 5swab5


A "Good" father would not expose his daughter's pics to any nut on the internet! PERIOD, the end.

snip [/*]

JY didn't do that, NCMW did.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by alter ego


But certainly not long enough for LE to have solved the crime. [/*]Two yrs. ago -here- a little girl was raped & murdered. They have arrested a male -2 counties away for the crime. The mother does not know this person nor does any other family member. He worked as a roofer several blocks away for a short time. Well it took two years but the evidence was there for the arrest. It takes time & you know what they say re: patience being a virtue.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by gbmy

They haven't switched gears because the spouse is usually the target to investigate and they probably think he's the perp. But, they also don't have enough evidence to arrest him which means they could be wrong......And, if they are, it means they've wasted 2 years and an enormous amount of time and money going after the wrong guy. If this turns out to be the case, let's just say it would not reflect positively on LE's judgement and utilization of resources that the taxpayers fund. [/*]

They haven't "switched gears" for more reasons than that.

1) Hanging up on police after learning of Michelle & Rylan's murders.

2) Leaving town early for a meeting the next day, but only driving part way, because he was tired....

3) BUT, suddenly reappearing an hour later in different clothing and heading toward an exit door.

4) Never using his key card to reenter his room, but...SURPRISE, on that VERY night, someone jammed the outside entrance with a rock.

5) And maybe most importantly of all, even tho Jason's mother says that Jason didn't change clothes or remove anything from his SUV before meandering his way back to Raleigh, that pesky dark pullover is unaccounted for.

After the new SWs were released, even IF there had been doubt in my mind, t'was all erased. Personally, I can't understand why he isn't already in the pen. I'd convict in a heartbeat. They had much less on Scott Peterson and he is on death row.

Jason Lynn Young will go down in the annals of criminals...IMO...as one of the most cruel and calculating yet. Mark my words.

MOO

Swabby



6) Let's don't forget either, that in such a brutal murder scene, the TWO things most important to Jason were left unscathed. Cassidy and Mr. Garrison.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego


JY didn't do that, NCMW did. [/*]

Do you have proof that JLY didn't troll the internet?

Jason had an "encounter" on Craigslist.

According to NCW, they've confirmed that he DIDIT.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what is the largest number of pages or threads devoted to a single topic on IS? [/*]I believe it was when all you guys from Scouts came here to bash Coldwater and her moderation of this forum.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by BSNBREVARDNC


So everybody lies but Jason. He is the last hope for truth and honor on our sad little planet? The cops and the media are all out to get him. What a sad little story. [/*]Along with Brad Cooper. Everyone lies but BC. barf

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Do you have proof that JLY didn't troll the internet?

Jason had an "encounter" on Craigslist.

According to NCW, they've confirmed that he DIDIT. [/*]
Typical flawed logic from you.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
I believe it was when all you guys from Scouts came here to bash Coldwater and her moderation of this forum. [/*]

I should report your above post to Coldwater for posting an UNtruth. Closer to the truth would be when we come here and and try to discuss the case when there is new news, and you guys go tattle to Coldwater and get the board closed.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Trinity


He is apparently looking Kat......maybe YOU could be the next Mrs. Young!! :D [/*] That might be her motive while she's posting.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Trinity


Its amazing to me that JY does one negative thing after another, and the JII's seem to treat him like the second coming of christ. There is no discussion from them because his "mess ups" are always blamed on someone else, the media, LE, or the Fisher's. [/*] What does JII mean? Everytime a man is accused of killing his wife the same thing happens-always by females for the most part.

[Schatzie]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trinity


JII-Jason Is Innocent

JDI-Jason Did It [/*][/QUOTE Thank you Trinity. Gee someone ran away suddenly. :D

[shack]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


No. You had insinuated that NCW may have paid a lot of money to the person who provided the photos. I merely suggested that it might be Det Spivey and therefore, neither Spivey or NCW would require an exchange of monies!

I think it was somebody who already had the photos in their possession, for whatever reason, perhaps holding onto them for awhile, and merely forwarded them to NCW after the SW news came to light. Maybe the recent surveillance video of Jason at Hampton was all the info that person needed to throw them off the fence? [/*]

You just keep posting over and over things that just aren't true. It says right in the article that NCWanted pulled them off of an Internet header. Yet you keep making up stories of where they come from. What you are admitting is that NCWanted lied. Why do't you try readin some and maybe your posts wouldn't sound so off the wall?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by shack

Well a David Creech from NCwanted emailed us. In a nut shell he says thanks for pointing out this possible decrepancy. He also states that it is being looked into. He identifies himself as the executive producer. If you people down there would apply a little pressure on these non truth reports you might get some action. I can assure you that it will be pursued from North of the Ohio. [/*]


So, when you emailed NCW did you ask them how they got their information? And if so, did they inform you that they got the info from the "Internet Header" ???

[shack]

Originally posted by Cardinal


No offense, but I hope you're wrong. Because otherwise, someone has perpetuated an ugly hoax.

And that's not acceptable.

JMO [/*]

This isn't the first one. There have been my space pages set up under people's names during this murder investigation. The packet of material we received on this case has a lot of fraud involved. Some proved , some waiting to be proved. The man that sent us this info had a my space set up. He has already established the identity of the person that did it.

[shack]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



So, when you emailed NCW did you ask them how they got their information? And if so, did they inform you that they got the info from the "Internet Header" ??? [/*]
That wasn't what I wrote them about. That is a civil matter. I wrote them about a legal matter. I could care less who this man dates.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by shack


You just keep posting over and over things that just aren't true. It says right in the article that NCWanted pulled them off of an Internet header. Yet you keep making up stories of where they come from. What you are admitting is that NCWanted lied. Why do't you try readin some and maybe your posts wouldn't sound so off the wall? [/*]

Personally,

I don't care how NCW obtained them. The fact remains that Jason was trolling for a new 'Golden Goose", using Cassidy as bait. Despicable in my book.

I am not surprised that his champions are screaming like banshees. But, IF he demands any satisfaction, he will have to finally open his mouth. That's a good thing.

MOO

Swabby

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If that's the case then why haven't they switched gears and started looking for the real killer? Why for two years continue to pursue someone that has a solid alibli? The only way they'd do that is if they believe Jason hired a hitman and I don't believe that's the case.

I think it's only a matter of time before Jason is arrested for the murder of Michelle and LE will go with the CE they have if they can't get anything else on him.

And no Kat I don't know how many days, weeks or months that matter of time will be. LOL [/*]

ITA. Amazing that some people still believe that LE knows they are wasting their time trying to make a case against Jason, yet are not concerned about a brutal murderer running around free.

I think they probably have more CE than what has been divulged publically and, I agree, that unless they find a smoking gun very soon, Jason will be arrested and they'll rely on what they've got. Do you remember how many people were convinced Scott would not be convicted - no murder weapon, no cause of death, etc. etc. etc.?

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by annalyzer


In most cases a single father with a child is sweet and a lot of women would find that attractive. In Jason's case I don't think even a darling little girl would help him find a date. I'm not referring to his looks but the fact that his wife was murdered and LE are pursuing him for the murder. Anyone with half a brain would steer clear of that! :chicken: [/*]

When my late brother was 24 - 25 he used to take my 2 y.o. daughter to the beach every weekend. Said she was the best chick magnet around. Unfortunately, the one he settled on grabbed the steering wheel of his car when they were having a fight one night which caused an accident, which ultimately killed him. That was over 20 years ago so that ploy worked then and, I'm sure, works now.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I think the first photo at NCW doesn't even resemble Jason. It's possible he was using an anonymous name. I had heard he was dating a woman from Georgia from 6/07-12/07? [/*]

Was that how long it took her to realise she was dating a suspected murderer?

[shack]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich


ITA. Amazing that some people still believe that LE knows they are wasting their time trying to make a case against Jason, yet are not concerned about a brutal murderer running around free.

I think they probably have more CE than what has been divulged publically and, I agree, that unless they find a smoking gun very soon, Jason will be arrested and they'll rely on what they've got. Do you remember how many people were convinced Scott would not be convicted - no murder weapon, no cause of death, etc. etc. etc.? [/*]

Is Scott the guys name that jerked the steering wheel? Must have had a video of him jerking the wheel.

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by shack


This isn't the first one. There have been my space pages set up under people's names during this murder investigation. The packet of material we received on this case has a lot of fraud involved. Some proved , some waiting to be proved. The man that sent us this info had a my space set up. He has already established the identity of the person that did it. [/*]

Myspace fraud - nothing new and has no bearing on the murder investigation imo.

[shack]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Personally,

I don't care how NCW obtained them. The fact remains that Jason was trolling for a new 'Golden Goose", using Cassidy as bait. Despicable in my book.

I am not surprised that his champions are screaming like banshees. But, IF he demands any satisfaction, he will have to finally open his mouth. That's a good thing.

MOO

Swabby [/*]

I think you are going to be in trouble for calling the victim a "Golden Goose". These women are gonna get you.