Michelle Young.(New)..8.18.08 SW Results

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Jules2



Speaking of fiction......I wonder what ever happened to that poster who insisted that the sealed search warrants were for Meredith. That same poster insisted that Meredith must have stolen the missing jewelry to support her so-called drug habit. I didn't see Meredith's house being searched, or anything related to her at all.

Couldn't provide a link for that fiction either yet the JII's hung on to it like it was the gospel truth. :shrug: [/*]

The sealed search warrants haven't been made public. It's very possible that Meredith Fisher was the focus.

[Jules2]

Originally posted by Celiarun


The sealed search warrants haven't been made public. It's very possible that Meredith Fisher was the focus. [/*]


You mean there are super secret, nobody knows anything about except for you, sealed warrants still out?


Link link link....please

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


Why does anyone lie?

How can you be sure he wouldn't lie? Just because you know it is wrong and wouldn't do it does not mean he wouldn't. [/*]

Lies are told for a reason. He didn't tell this to police. What would he have to gain by telling his mother a lie? Seems to me, logic dictates that if he's the killer and used the money for gas, he'd simply not tell his mother anything at all about it.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


OR it suggests someone planned Michelle's murder and knew they would need cash for gas and conveniently left it in the "new" wallet in his closet.

Why didn't Jason do a walk through of the house with LE and point out things that were missing? [/*]

Hi Alli4Steeler,

I dunno for sure, But I suspected...in the beginning, that it took EVERYTHING out of Jason to fool his step-dad, which apparently worked for a few minutes. Ergo, the l-o-n-g slow ride back to Raleigh.

He KNOWS.....he knew when he made UP that silly story about Jason "falling plumb to his knees". Funny we haven't heard a lot out of him in the last several months, think he headed for higher ground?

I know I would have.;)

MOO

Swabby

[PlainJane]

Originally posted by Celiarun


Why would Jason lie to his mother about missing money? What would he gain by doing that? His family gave him the money. His family packed up the house to move everything. If your family was packing up your house to sell, wouldn't you alert them to that $400 in the closet? Or would you just keep quiet? [/*]

For the simple fact that it lends credibility to the robbery theory/story.

And I seriously doubt I would even think to mention the box of rolled coins in my closet to my family if they were packing up my house following the murder of my spouse. Call me sentimental, but I'd be thinking about something else.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Jules2



You mean there are super secret, nobody knows anything about except for you, sealed warrants still out?


Link link link....please [/*]

There is a sealed warrant in this case. Link has been posted many times but here it is again.

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/3305132/

[PlainJane]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


long ago....on a thread that went poof....

It is, of course, a rumor....but IIRC, it was posted by someone who had been in the house after it was released by LE. [/*]

So that's a rumor you feel comfortable believing? You sure are selective... Funny how all the rumors you believe support your theory. ;)

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by PlainJane


For the simple fact that it lends credibility to the robbery theory/story.

And I seriously doubt I would even think to mention the box of rolled coins in my closet to my family if they were packing up my house following the murder of my spouse. Call me sentimental, but I'd be thinking about something else. [/*]

Howso? Mrs. Young didn't share the missing money information with police until May, 2007. That's quite a length of time if the goal was to plant a robbery scenario.

I would alert my family to all the valuables in my house if they were packing it up for me so that I wouldn't have to do it. $500 isn't chump change to me.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


Of course he didn't tell this to police...he hasn't told them anything as we all read in the sw---he hung up on them while he was en route to Fuquay Varina for goodness sake! He was so despondant over this tragedy that he had the good mind to redirect LE to his yet-to-be retained atty and then hang up?

Also--- I would like to point out that we were told by the teacher that Jason was told to get an atty by a close friend when he arrived in Fuquay Varina. I think this has been proven to be a lie.

So, as you say, lies are told for a reason. What is the reason for this lie?

If he was trying to stage a robbery, then why not "mention" missing cash to his mother? Makes the robbery scenario look much more credible if the "robbers" stole jewelry AND cash. [/*]

Jason did get an attorney. No lie there. Jason did assert his right to silence right away. No lie there. And where do you get the idea that missing cash that his mother told LE about seven months later is now evidence that it was a staged robbery? If anything, it proves just the opposite. For something to be considered "staged," police have to know about it from the get-go. Nowhere in those search warrants do LE even remotely suggest it is a lie. I think they took it quite seriously and were searching for missing items.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Bud Wiser


$500 cash from Mommy tucked away in the closet ?
He could not even afford to fix the heater or garage door.
What was $500 doing in the closet ? [/*]

:beer:

Thank You for stating the obvious.


Not important to Jason's supporters, that Michelle & Cassidy were in a VERY cool house, early November. Meanwhile, Jason had ALL the creature comforts that a hotel can offer.

He left early, only to be late the next day...on a routine run...NO caring man would even waste his portion of an overnight stay for such a frivolous distance!

Now I find out that his Mom maintains that (hah) the money to fix the problem was just sitting there in the closet....All the while.........just waiting on a bludgeoning/robbery.

RiiiiiiighT

JMO!

Swabby

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


Yep.

I believe this one because I believe the person who said it.

I also believe it because LE said no robbery. Would they have said that if they saw that Michelle's purse had been rifled through? [/*]

How could police even tell her purse was rifled through? There would be no way to know how much money Michelle had in her wallet to begin with.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler



Why do you think the robbery info was not shared with LE prior to May 2007?

Would that not have helped the investigation?

I would alert LE to the fact that there was cash and missing valuables ASAP in order to aid the investigation.

Why the long wait? [/*]

There was a change in investigators. Perhaps the info was shared with the first investigators and they were so focused on Jason and only Jason that they didn't believe it or chose not to pursue it. Whatever the reason, the detectives in May took note of it and treated it seriously.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by bookie



An overnight bag IS luggage. Again....no mention of him taking ANY luggage, including an overnight bag, out with him when he was seen on video. :rolleyes: [/*]


DOH!

He was only there for a few minutes, how much luggage did he need?

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Celiarun


His mom told police about the cash in the wallet because she and other family members were the source of the cash. She may also have been the source of the new wallet that contained the cash. She certainly had a good way to know what he did with it...he could have told her. [/*]

A fin against a donut hole, that the $500.00 idea came to the forefront AFTER the SWs, with anonymous "A" & "*" were released.

MOO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by PlainJane


That doesn't seem odd to me at all. I assume he got it as a gift and didn't like it (I have donated a couple to Goodwill in the past ten years that my husband received and didn't like). A wallet (like a handbag, IMO) can be a rather personal choice. [/*]

"personal choice" ?

Like the Coach purse as a gift and Jason collecting sorority sister's opinions about which style to purchase for Michelle, and the bogus fax ruse intended for Meredith to find her sister's dead body and toddler niece covered in blood? That kind of personal choice?

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


Well of course they took it seriously!

They executed a search for it, so that is obvious.

If there was cash there before the murder and Mrs. Young says it's gone and Jason needed cash for his secret gas-ups during his drive and there is no record of him recently withdrawing cash from any of his accounts then VOILA!....you have the cash he needed to buy fuel.

And we were lied to about when and where Jason retained an atty no matter how you try and spin it. [/*]

GMAB. If Jason used the cash to buy fuel after he murdered his wife, he wouldn't have alerted his own mother to the fact he had the cash at all. He knew his mother was talking to police.

[Celiarun]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Celiarun


There was a change in investigators. Perhaps the info was shared with the first investigators and they were so focused on Jason and only Jason that they didn't believe it or chose not to pursue it. Whatever the reason, the detectives in May took note of it and treated it seriously. [/*][/QUOTE

They were focused on Jason and only Jason, and Jason knew it, but yet he did not share info of a robbery with LE at all and FINALLY his mother shared it in May 2007....info that could have turned the investigation in another direction..away from her son and toward the killer of her DIL and unborn grandson, a grandson to carry on the Young name.

And I find it hard to believe that LE would ignore evidence that this was a robbery/homicide and not just a homicide and would fail to mention it to new investigators.

This is not info to take lightly. It could lead right to the killer.

LE investigated the mallet, for crying out loud. [/*]

How would Jason providing that information immediately turn the investigation into another direction? If cops believed Jason did it from the get-go, they'd believe he was lying about the robbery.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


He staged a robbery, forgot to make it look like a robbery and also left a bloody footprint of his own shoe on a pillow where cops would be sure to see it.....and coincidently, the only sister admitted to touching a pillow.

Sounds more like somebody was trying to set him up, imo. [/*]

Yes, during the 911 call Meredith Did admit to touching the pillow.

She did not, however, step on the pillow and leave a bloody shoe print.

I wonder how many times Jason called Meredith before she arrived at the house? Did he talk to her directly, or did he simply leave a message on her voicemail? Or both?

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Celiarun


GMAB. If Jason used the cash to buy fuel after he murdered his wife, he wouldn't have alerted his own mother to the fact he had the cash at all. He knew his mother was talking to police. [/*]

LOL!

Jason doesn't have to "alert" his mom to ANYTHING anymore. He has already symbolically killed her.

I am sure she is towing the line now.

MOO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego
How could he check in empty handed and then go to his room and come back out with other clothes on? [/*]

He checked into the hotel wearing a white long-sleeved shirt, returned to the front desk wearing a brown long-sleeved shirt.

Are you going to say that he engaged in convo with another patron in the hallway and they exchanged shirts?

:rolleyes:

*Don't forget about the rock at the side exit door.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Bud Wiser


Ok here is something I will post that WILL come true...just for you Kat.

JASON LYNN YOUNG WILL BE INDICTED FOR 1st DEGREE MURDER [/*] :beer: And soon to have company.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Celiarun


How could police even tell her purse was rifled through? There would be no way to know how much money Michelle had in her wallet to begin with. [/*]

If I was murdered, my bank statement will show that I got $50 cash out of the ATM on my way home from work so that I could purchase gas and coffee the following morning on my way into work.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


He checked into the hotel wearing a white long-sleeved shirt, returned to the front desk wearing a brown long-sleeved shirt.

Are you going to say that he engaged in convo with another patron in the hallway and they exchanged shirts?

:rolleyes:

*Don't forget about the rock at the side exit door. [/*]No, that's not what I'm saying.

Why don't you try again.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Alli4Steeler


Yep.

I believe this one because I believe the person who said it.

I also believe it because LE said no robbery. Would they have said that if they saw that Michelle's purse had been rifled through? [/*]When did LE say there was no robbery?

[5swab5]

Originally posted by alter ego
When did LE say there was no robbery? [/*]

Ummm, from the VERY beginning.

"NO forced entry and NO robbery".

Later gators, haystack time.

MOO

Swabby

[alter ego]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Ummm, from the VERY beginning.

"NO forced entry and NO robbery".

Later gators, haystack time.

MOO

Swabby [/*]
Then link it pls, cuz I can't find LE saying "no robbery" anywhere.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego

Then link it pls, cuz I can't find LE saying "no robbery" anywhere. [/*]

"no forced entry"

Are you thinking the robber knocked on the door and Michelle opened it to let the robber come into the house?

"no forced entry" means: No robbery.

Jason staged the crime scene to make it look like a robbery and that's one of several reasons why the investigation has taken so long. Jason Not cooperating is one of the major reasons.

**There are numerous articles that mention LE said "no forced entry" and the links are provided in the Link Thread.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by bookie
The bottom line is that if this "evidence" was really evidence and incriminated Jason he would have been in jail long ago. The fact that the cops omitted the fact that Jason returned to his hotel room screams reasonable doubt. IMO they know there wasn't enough time for him to go back and kill Michelle so they left out pertinent information when they asked for the s/w. [/*]

One only needs to read this thread to see why LE have to have each i dotted and t crossed. Too many women who would not use their God given brains were they to be selected to be on this jury. Short of a video of the murder and an allocution by JLY, the DA doesn't stand a chance if some of these posters are indicative off the abilities of the women in Raleigh to use deductive reasoning and logic, imho.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by Trinity


Yeah, I did.

Sorry, I just don't get why she needs to stir the pot like this when everyone is so emotional and we only want justice for Michelle. It gets me very upset.

Sorry. [/*]

Trinity hon, the sooner you accept that there are quite a few posters here who will gladly forgo justice for Michelle as long as ole Jayboy stays out of jail, the sooner you will not be so upset. It is not only sad, but SICK, IMO.

[Schatzie]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich


Trinity hon, the sooner you accept that there are quite a few posters here who will gladly forgo justice for Michelle as long as ole Jayboy stays out of jail, the sooner you will not be so upset. It is not only sad, but SICK, IMO. [/*]Truer words were never spoken-the same click is cheering for Brad Cooper. barf