Texas still plans to execute killer despite U.N. order

[aubrey04]

Texas will go ahead with the scheduled Aug. 5 execution of Houston rapist-killer Jose Medellin despite Wednesday's United Nations world court order for a stay, a spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry said.

The U.N.'s International Court of Justice's call for stays in the cases of Medellin and four other Mexican nationals awaiting execution in Texas came in response to a petition filed last month by the Mexican government.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/5890690.html

Here are the awful details of this sicko's crime. The first part is just a synopsis of what happened.. if you go down further - there are news articles from when this crime happened. It works best if you read from the bottom to the top (after reading the first part).

http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html

[aubrey04]

Here are details about the others involved in this gang initiation, which involved the torture, rape and murder of two innocent teens:


* Jose Ernesto Medellin was also sentenced to death. He has an execution date for August 5th, 2008.

* Derrick Sean O'Brien - the only black male involved - got the death penalty.. He was executed on July 11th, 2006.

* Peter Anthony Cantu was also sentenced to death. No execution date has been set for Cantu..

* Venancio Medellin (Jose Medellin's brother) was 14 years old at the time of the crime and received a 40-year prison term.

* Efrain Perez was also sentenced to death. Because he was 17 years old at the time of the crime, his sentence was later commuted to life imprisonment. He is still in prison. He is eligible for parole in 2029.

* Raul Omar Villareal was also sentenced to death. Because he was 17 years old at the time of the crime, his sentence was later commuted to life imprisonment. He is still in prison. He is eligible for parole in 2029.

[warhorse46]

Originally posted by aubrey04
Texas will go ahead with the scheduled Aug. 5 execution of Houston rapist-killer Jose Medellin despite Wednesday's United Nations world court order for a stay, a spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry said.

The U.N.'s International Court of Justice's call for stays in the cases of Medellin and four other Mexican nationals awaiting execution in Texas came in response to a petition filed last month by the Mexican government.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/5890690.html

Here are the awful details of this sicko's crime. The first part is just a synopsis of what happened.. if you go down further - there are news articles from when this crime happened. It works best if you read from the bottom to the top (after reading the first part).

http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html [/*]


The UN has always been against the death penalty & has petitioned many times before so that is nothing new. They are pretty much on the same level as the ACLU on this issue & will protest all death sentences.

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by warhorse46



The UN has always been against the death penalty & has petitioned many times before so that is nothing new. They are pretty much on the same level as the ACLU on this issue & will protest all death sentences. [/*]

Right. It's an interesting dynamic, though. George Bush had asked Texas to agree to the World Court's demands, but Rick Perry is not backing down --- it seems.

I am only for the death penalty in the most egregious cases and this crime was extremely egregious.. and the way this monster conducted himself during AND after the crime is beyond vile. I will not be happy when he's executed, but I certainly won't be sad. Jose Medellin is the scum of the earth. IMO.

[Roux]

I wasn't living in Texas when this heinous crime occurred and didn't know anything about it until reading here several months ago. At one time I was against the death penalty, especially after reading Sister Helen's book (the title escapes me at the moment), but have since changed my mind. There are some murders that are so terrible and horrific, I believe a death sentence is justified. IMO this is one of those cases.

[wandering]

Originally posted by Roux
I wasn't living in Texas when this heinous crime occurred and didn't know anything about it until reading here several months ago. At one time I was against the death penalty, especially after reading Sister Helen's book (the title escapes me at the moment), but have since changed my mind. There are some murders that are so terrible and horrific, I believe a death sentence is justified. IMO this is one of those cases. [/*]I agree. Especially heinous in light of the fact that one of the boys tried to deter him and the others.

[Hengirl]

They all need to die NOW!

[wandering]

Originally posted by Hengirl
They all need to die NOW! [/*]

Sure brings up the bile, doesn't it? I wouldn't want to find myself in a situation where the perps have no mercy. Scary.

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by Roux
I wasn't living in Texas when this heinous crime occurred and didn't know anything about it until reading here several months ago. At one time I was against the death penalty, especially after reading Sister Helen's book (the title escapes me at the moment), but have since changed my mind. There are some murders that are so terrible and horrific, I believe a death sentence is justified. IMO this is one of those cases. [/*]

I believe the books name was, "Forgiving the Dead Man Walking" .. and the movie was titled, "Dead Man Walking". I am on the same page as you are. I was once against the death penalty, but after so many cases that are so brutal -- I no longer stand on that side of the fence. People like Joseph Duncan and the monsters who murdered Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom only further my belief that some people just do not deserve to breathe.

I was around Elizabeth Pena's age when this crime happened in Houston and it scared me to death. I will NEVER forget this crime and I will have no pity for Medellin when he is executed.

[Joan Weiss]

Originally posted by aubrey04
Texas will go ahead with the scheduled Aug. 5 execution of Houston rapist-killer Jose Medellin despite Wednesday's United Nations world court order for a stay, a spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry said.

The U.N.'s International Court of Justice's call for stays in the cases of Medellin and four other Mexican nationals awaiting execution in Texas came in response to a petition filed last month by the Mexican government.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/5890690.html

Here are the awful details of this sicko's crime. The first part is just a synopsis of what happened.. if you go down further - there are news articles from when this crime happened. It works best if you read from the bottom to the top (after reading the first part).

http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html [/*]Thank you for the links (I think barf )

So many monsters out there.

Yes, this "thing" deserves to die. imo

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
Thank you for the links (I think barf )

So many monsters out there.

Yes, this "thing" deserves to die. imo [/*]

No problemo.. Yup, I agree.. this monster deserves to be dispatched ASAP.

[iluvmua]

The book is called "Pure Murder" and is written by Corey Mitchell

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by iluvmua
The book is called "Pure Murder" and is written by Corey Mitchell [/*]

I had never heard of that book. I looked it up and there are a lot of websites selling it. Thanks for the heads up.

[aubrey04]

Another update on Jose Medellin's death sentence. He is still trying to avoid it claiming that he still has appeals pending.

Texas has not backed down.. and his execution is still set for August 5, 2008...at 6 pm.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/5920503.html

There is absolutely no doubt that Medellin committed this crime. He confessed to it -- there were others there who confessed to it. He is using the fact that he was a Mexican citizen as a crutch to avoid the sentence a jury handed down.

His nationality is the only thing that separates him from the other co-gang member/rapist/murderer who has already been executed over 2 years ago for the same crime.

He grew up in the United States, albeit illegally -- he still shared in all the benefits that living in America provides. And now he thinks he deserves preferential treatment based on where he was born (yet not raised). Why in the world should he not be punished the same as the others involved solely based on his nationality?

Sorry, if I am ranting.. but this crime really affected me and still does all these years later.

Here is GREAT editorial written wonderfully by someone who details the appeals process for Medellin & the Vienna Convention/World Court/UN/Mexican Governments appeal to Texas.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/5920246.html

[LeftJab]

Originally posted by aubrey04


I had never heard of that book. I looked it up and there are a lot of websites selling it. Thanks for the heads up. [/*]

I wonder if Bush will comment after this guy is executed? This guy's execution is a big vote against Bush and the world court - which I will be happy to disobey.

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by LeftJab


I wonder if Bush will comment after this guy is executed? This guy's execution is a big vote against Bush and the world court - which I will be happy to disobey. [/*]

Who knows with President Bush? I would hope he'd stay out of it but you just never know with him.

I was anxious tonight. Medellin was supposed to be executed right at 6pm but he was given a temporary stay while the Supreme Court reviewed it again... it took a little over 3 hrs for them to deliberate and decide against giving him a longer stay for his case to be reviewed.

His death warrant was signed to be carried out before midnight tonight. I am trying to find out more information but it's only coming in slowly.. but he WILL be executed tonight.

[aubrey04]

Medellin was pronounced dead at 9:57 p.m., nine minutes after the lethal dose was administered.

...I am still trying to find out what the split was (if there was one) within the Supreme Court.. and what Medellin's last words were.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/ap_on_re_us/texas_execution_5

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5924476.htmlhttp://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5924476.html

[xena]

Good. The world court is a joke and has no business interfering with the well deserved execution of this $%^,.I am extremely disapointed in President Bush for trying to stop it but am also glad he appointed judges to the court who support capital punishment.

[LeftJab]

Originally posted by xena
Good. The world court is a joke and has no business interfering with the well deserved execution of this $%^,.I am extremely disapointed in President Bush for trying to stop it but am also glad he appointed judges to the court who support capital punishment. [/*]

It doesn't matter about the judges as Bush tried to influence Texas and stop the execution prior to the ruling today. Bush sided with Mexico and the world court, so this was a slap in the face to him.

Keep on slapping.

[LeftJab]

The four dissenting justices yesterday -- John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter and Stephen Breyer -- all said they would have sought input from the Bush administration before letting Texas proceed with the execution. Breyer wrote that Medellin's execution ``will place this nation in violation of international law.''

Stevens Switch

Stevens was part of the 6-3 majority when the court ruled in March. He said yesterday he voted to delay the execution because ``it appears that Texas has not taken action to address the serious national security and foreign policy implications'' of the case.

Article showing judges sympathic to Bush and the world court (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahe1Ucm4SHp4&refer=home)

Giant slap in the face to Bush and globalism. The American People have spoken, not some third world court.

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by LeftJab
The four dissenting justices yesterday -- John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter and Stephen Breyer -- all said they would have sought input from the Bush administration before letting Texas proceed with the execution. Breyer wrote that Medellin's execution ``will place this nation in violation of international law.''

Stevens Switch

Stevens was part of the 6-3 majority when the court ruled in March. He said yesterday he voted to delay the execution because ``it appears that Texas has not taken action to address the serious national security and foreign policy implications'' of the case.

Article showing judges sympathic to Bush and the world court (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahe1Ucm4SHp4&refer=home)

Giant slap in the face to Bush and globalism. The American People have spoken, not some third world court. [/*]

Thank you for finding that. I actually read your post last night but I was too emotionally drained to post on here and thank you.. I apologize. It looks like it was a close call, I am so glad that the Supreme Court did not cave into the World Court & Bush.

It's not like Medellin was DENIED access to a Mexican consultant. He just never asked for one for FOUR years. He was too busy bragging and boasting about the rapes and murders to bother with that. It doesn't matter though - I have read a lot about this crime and most legal pundits agree that even if he did ask for assistance from Mexico ~ he still would have been given the death penalty.

I read that Medellin apologized to the Penas and Ertmans in his final statement. I am glad that he did, although I don't put much weight into his apology but it's better than him using that time to talk about himself or make a political statement.

So, two down.. one to go.. Peter Cantu, the ringerleader of this gang, doesn't have a date scheduled yet.. Texas has to give the condemned a 90 day notice - so I think he'll make it to at least 2009.. but his day is coming, too.

[Alibar]

Globalization goes hand in hand with the World Court. Just thinking about a world court deciding the fate of any American is chilling. The further we go toward the former, puts us closer to signing onto the World Court. We are in the hands of our leaders. At present, we can ignore the decisions coming from that court and do what our courts decide.

[crocdog]

Originally posted by Alibar
Globalization goes hand in hand with the World Court. Just thinking about a world court deciding the fate of any American is chilling. The further we go toward the former, puts us closer to signing onto the World Court. We are in the hands of our leaders. At present, we can ignore the decisions coming from that court and do what our courts decide. [/*]

RE: "We are in the hands of our leaders. At present, we can ignore the decisions coming from that court and do what our courts decide".

If we did what our leaders wanted, ie, GWB, we would have submitted to the official edict of the World Court.

More and more we are moving toward GLOBALIZATION.

JMHO