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Anakerie

07-18-2008, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by steffaroob4
I am looking for updates on this.
Body Recovery Search Under Way In Ship Canal
SUMMIT, Ill. -- Illinois State Police are assisting on a body recovery call Friday in the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal.

The U.S. Coast Guard is conducting the search near Summit.

It's unclear what prompted the call.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/16921801/detail.html?dl=headlineclick

anyone hear anything? [/*]

Wow.. That is one very short news item.. We need one of the posters that are "local" to that area on here! Summit is only about 30 miles from Drew's house.

steffaroob4

07-18-2008, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Wow.. That is one very short news item.. We need one of the posters that are "local" to that area on here! Summit is only about 30 miles from Drew's house. [/*]

Yes it is and it is in the time-line. Drive north to dispose of evidence, drive south and turn on your cell phone to prove you were nowhere close to the area in the north.

Anakerie

07-18-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by steffaroob4

Yes it is and it is in the time-line. Drive north to dispose of evidence, drive south and turn on your cell phone to prove you were nowhere close to the area in the north. [/*]

Yep... Now we need to hear more info about the body they are recovering. Like how "old" of a body it is....

:chicken:

BobbysGirl

07-18-2008, 08:25 PM

I too would like to know.

A body recovery or a possible lead? I can't jump to conclusions.

Time will tell. Stacy needs to be found.

For Stacy :rose:

concernedmom

07-18-2008, 10:07 PM

WOW. I wish that we could hear more about this.

kizzzy

07-18-2008, 10:15 PM

With Chicago's high crime rate I won't hold my breath but I do sure hope it is Stacy.

steffaroob4

07-19-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by concernedmom
WOW. I wish that we could hear more about this. [/*]

Well, it was a man they found. I was hoping, this has to be hard for the family.
http://www.wbbm780.com/Weekend-Violence-UPDATE---Man-s-Body-Floating-in-C/2626672

concernedmom

07-19-2008, 07:55 PM

Thanks. Was hoping for some closure for Stacys family.

Nova

07-19-2008, 08:31 PM

I was so excited as I was reading thinkin maybe the body in the canal was going to be Stacy, but NO. I think excited was the wrong word, hopeful is more like it. Waiting for anything to take DP down.
I have so many questions ... what about the GJ and DP's sons testifying, what came of that???
AND ... TMorphey, I think he is the key and we've heard nada, nothing, so frustrating.
I can't imagine the ups and downs these families are going through, but I have faith DP will go down, just not sure when, but he will !!!!!

kizzzy

07-19-2008, 08:40 PM

I heard about a month ago on some TV show (sorry no link) that this GJ is done the first of August so they will have to come up with a true bill or no bill by then.
Let's hope something happens soon. :biggrin:

Nova

07-19-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by kizzzy
I heard about a month ago on some TV show (sorry no link) that this GJ is done the first of August so they will have to come up with a true bill or no bill by then.
Let's hope something happens soon. :biggrin: [/*]
THANKS for the reply ... hopefully we'll get some answers from this GJ. August 1st only a couple of weeks away!!! ;)

north-eh

07-22-2008, 10:55 AM

Hello everyone. :seeya:
I'm just stopping by to say how nice it is to be "home" again. I really missed IS, as I'm sure the rest of you did as well. I really hope as well that the GJ finishes soon and an indictment is on the way.
For Stacy and Kathleeen:rose:
N

north-eh

07-22-2008, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Pals: Drew gave us his 'secret' gun
Couple say police missed weapon during search
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1058047,CST-NWS-boling16.article

With this story hitting the news, I'd say that Ric Mims gained some credibility. [/*]

ITA, but then again I was inclined to believe a lot of what Ric said anyway. IMO if Brodsky or DP denied anything or in this case everything somene else said about them, I usually took that to mean it held some water, but that's just me.
N

steffaroob4

07-22-2008, 11:17 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1069491,boling072308.stng

Drew's pals wore wire
SEARCHING FOR STACY | Drew's chilling words caught on tape

July 23, 2008
BY JOE HOSEY Sun-Times News Group
Drew Peterson likes to talk an awful lot — especially for a guy whose third wife was murdered and fourth wife is missing.

And now two of his closest friends say they caught it all, cooperating with State Police by wearing a wire and recording seven months of intimate conversations with the former Bolingbrook cop.

Paula Stark and Len Wawczak (right) wore a wire during conversations with their former friend Drew Peterson, who trusted them so much he asked them to stash a .22 caliber folding revolver (inset) after his FOID card was revoked.
(Rich Hein/Sun-Times)

more...

not.another

07-22-2008, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by steffaroob4
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1069491,boling072308.stng

Drew's pals wore wire
SEARCHING FOR STACY | Drew's chilling words caught on tape

July 23, 2008
BY JOE HOSEY Sun-Times News Group
Drew Peterson likes to talk an awful lot — especially for a guy whose third wife was murdered and fourth wife is missing.

And now two of his closest friends say they caught it all, cooperating with State Police by wearing a wire and recording seven months of intimate conversations with the former Bolingbrook cop.

Paula Stark and Len Wawczak (right) wore a wire during conversations with their former friend Drew Peterson, who trusted them so much he asked them to stash a .22 caliber folding revolver (inset) after his FOID card was revoked.
(Rich Hein/Sun-Times)

more... [/*]
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That's some good hunting Steffaroob - guess LE must have what they need. We can only hope. This just proves to me that he really is a narcissist. Everyone else is the problem, never him. I can't believe he would try to take Len's wife away from him! That's lowest of the low. Of course, he will probably claim that he was joking. The jokester that he is. IMO.

kizzzy

07-23-2008, 12:14 AM

mdlm

07-23-2008, 08:28 AM

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1069559,072308drew.article

They wore wires for 7 months...
Why is this info being released now? I think things are going to start moving now and quickly! imo and jmo and yada...

Missed you all here

:seeya: :seeya:

mdlm

07-23-2008, 08:43 AM

http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=720&z=4

JB's spin...

Jpanda

07-23-2008, 09:03 AM

I am in shock! This is all over our local news. I just can't believe all those things he said!!

Gotta finish reading the article but WOW.:read:

Pooh

07-23-2008, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Jpanda
I am in shock! This is all over our local news. I just can't believe all those things he said!!

Gotta finish reading the article but WOW.:read: [/*]
I know!! What a big mouth he is!! He thought he was safe given all the time that has gone by and he thought his buddies were gonna keep their mouths shut. Holy cow...what a break in the case!!!

Jpanda

07-23-2008, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Pooh

I know!! What a big mouth he is!! He thought he was safe given all the time that has gone by and he thought his buddies were gonna keep their mouths shut. Holy cow...what a break in the case!!! [/*]

ITA! I was so hoping that LE was keeping tabs on him and had some sort of secret surveillance on him, and I'm so relieved to know that they have! Did you read the part where he tried to get his friend's wife to run away with him?? And how he wanted her to try on Stacy's bikinis?? I'm sorry but DP is a monster - what scum, IMO.

I'm wondering also why this is all coming out now....and I wonder if LE gave them permission to speak to the media.

jmo

Pooh

07-23-2008, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Jpanda

ITA! I was so hoping that LE was keeping tabs on him and had some sort of secret surveillance on him, and I'm so relieved to know that they have! Did you read the part where he tried to get his friend's wife to run away with him?? And how he wanted her to try on Stacy's bikinis?? I'm sorry but DP is a monster - what scum, IMO.

I'm wondering also why this is all coming out now....and I wonder if LE gave them permission to speak to the media.

jmo [/*]
Do you remember some of the statements made on Sandra Belinger's website that said a friend would turn on him (or something to that effect)? She was right on!

ETA: I just went back and re-read on that site and I am mistaken. Sandra mentioned his brother Paul and a tip. Must have been wishful thinking on my part. :D

wandering

07-23-2008, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Jpanda
I am in shock! This is all over our local news. I just can't believe all those things he said!!

Gotta finish reading the article but WOW.:read: [/*]Yeah, and DP is denying it. :eek:

If they have the tapes, who does he think he's kidding?

Pooh

07-23-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by wandering
Yeah, and DP is denying it. :eek:

If they have the tapes, who does he think he's kidding? [/*]
HA! I was thinking the same thing. He's toast. I can't wait until they arrest his azz.

Fallen Angel

07-23-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by wandering
Yeah, and DP is denying it. :eek:

If they have the tapes, who does he think he's kidding? [/*]The man gives me the creeps:cuss:

steffaroob4

07-23-2008, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by kizzzy

Holy Wow!! That sure made me smile :D [/*]

me, too!!!

witchywoman

07-23-2008, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by kizzzy

Holy Wow!! That sure made me smile :D [/*]

holy bats, wow, mo...thnx for the link

Jpanda

07-23-2008, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by wandering
Yeah, and DP is denying it. :eek:

If they have the tapes, who does he think he's kidding? [/*]

I know, I think I just read somewhere that he's not concerned about the tapes because he says it will help clear him.....
I think I believe the friends more than I believe him. :rolleyes:

I wonder what exactly is in the tapes....and also if LE has anyone else taping him. Hopefully LE is just wrapping everything up with a nice little bow. I know we all get impatient but I'd rather them wait until they have enough evidence against him so he will NEVER get out. In the meantime, I would appreciate it if all these loser women would stop fawning all over him in bars. I'm tempted to go to these bars one night just so I can pour my drink on him.

JMO

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by mdlm
http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1069559,072308drew.article

They wore wires for 7 months...
Why is this info being released now? I think things are going to start moving now and quickly! imo and jmo and yada...

Missed you all here

:seeya: :seeya: [/*]

Wow.. Thanks for the link! Do you think Drew and his buddy, Brodsky are sweating a little bit now?

Kudos to Len and Paula for doing the right thing....

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 10:51 AM

Oh man! This is my first post since the boards reopened. This is the best news to come back to. :)

I especially like the fact that the first story about these two friends implied they were upset about the search of their home. I believe they were quoted as saying they believed they were targeted because they are friends of Drew.

Well... we all know now the article was most likely a plant. There never was a search. These friends were helping law enforcement the minute they turned the folding .22 in to police. Drew is screwed. I am most confident that Drew Peterson will be indicted very soon.

It makes me smile. From ear to ear. :D

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Wow.. Thanks for the link! Do you think Drew and his buddy, Brodsky are sweating a little bit now?

Kudos to Len and Paula for doing the right thing....

Hey there Ana. :seeya:

Be sure to check out the link with Brodsky's statement. Instead of a straight up denial, Brodsky feels the need to belittle these ex-friends. As usual.

wandering

07-23-2008, 10:59 AM

wandering

07-23-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Jpanda

I know, I think I just read somewhere that he's not concerned about the tapes because he says it will help clear him.....
I think I believe the friends more than I believe him. :rolleyes:

I wonder what exactly is in the tapes....and also if LE has anyone else taping him. Hopefully LE is just wrapping everything up with a nice little bow. I know we all get impatient but I'd rather them wait until they have enough evidence against him so he will NEVER get out. In the meantime, I would appreciate it if all these loser women would stop fawning all over him in bars. I'm tempted to go to these bars one night just so I can pour my drink on him.

JMO [/*]If you do go, pour one for me. ;)

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by wandering
Good point, LS, and welcome back. :seeya:

:seeya: Thanks wandering. Good to be back.

So what do you think? Do you think the Grand Jury will be done by August 1st? I remember when they first convened, the original expected finish date was in April I believe.

But I don't remember reading any articles that give a new finish date.

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 11:30 AM

I should say it's obviously a great thing that the Grand Jury was not finished in April. :)

kizzzy

07-23-2008, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

:seeya: Thanks wandering. Good to be back.

So what do you think? Do you think the Grand Jury will be done by August 1st? I remember when they first convened, the original expected finish date was in April I believe.

But I don't remember reading any articles that give a new finish date. [/*]

It was Geraldo who said the GJ expires Aug 1st and he expects they will return an indictment, have to take that for what you think it's worth
I saw this article late last night and came back now to be sure I wasn't dreaming:hat:
I expect we will see Brodsky on TV soon spinning!:rolleyes:

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 11:41 AM

Here's a quote from Brodsky's statement that shows how ignorant he is.

“To answer the second question first, if Drew had made any incriminating statement to Wawczak and Stark when they were supposedly undercover agents, today’s news would include their arrest for obstruction of justice."

Here we have two people working with law enforcement & Brodsky actually says something as nonsensical as the above.

Brodsky obviously needs help understanding the working relationship between law enforcement & informants.

Brodsky's Statement ~ Thanks to mldm for posting it. (http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=720&z=4)

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Hey there Ana. :seeya:

Be sure to check out the link with Brodsky's statement. Instead of a straight up denial, Brodsky feels the need to belittle these ex-friends. As usual. [/*]

Yep, I saw Brodsky's "press release".. And was chuckling the whole time I read it. I'm almost tempted to go over and lurk on the pro-Drew board for a bit and see what spin his fans are giving this whole thing... lol.. Key word there is "almost".

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 11:45 AM

There's a pro-Drew board?

hammer hammer hammer

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 11:46 AM

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

He thinks they should be arrested for obstruction of justice???? Ok, that just plain confuses me.. lol, The were wearing the wires for LE, for crying out loud... What were THEY obstructing?

The keywords in your post are 'that just plain confuses me'.

I believe that's been Brodsky's plan all along. To confuse. I really can't wait for Brodsky to be fired as soon as Drew is indicted. It'll be funny to see a lawyer working pro bono get fired. Or asked to discontinue his Drew advocacy. However it will get spun.

I believe there is no way in hell Drew would use Brodsky as his trial attorney. No way.

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
There's a pro-Drew board?

hammer hammer hammer [/*]

Yup, there is a pro-Drew board. Brodsky even posts there from time to time.. Or at least he used to. I haven't gone over there much recently because I got tired of their cheering section for Brodsky and got tired of them bashing anyone and everyone against Drew. They've been having a field day bashing this Ashley person who used to PM with Drew and whats left of the FSP people who are posting somewhere else.. lol

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

The keywords in your post are 'that just plain confuses me'.

I believe that's been Brodsky's plan all along. To confuse. I really can't wait for Brodsky to be fired as soon as Drew is indicted. It'll be funny to see a lawyer working pro bono get fired. Or asked to discontinue his Drew advocacy. However it will get spun.

I believe there is no way in hell Drew would use Brodsky as his trial attorney. No way. [/*]

I can't see Drew using Brodsky as a trial attorney either. I think Brodsky think's he's doing a great job, but all I see is a lawyer/ambulance chaser who's in this for the publicity he's getting. Drew would be insane to keep Brodsky for trial... But then it would sure be entertaining to see Brodsky trying to spin things in a courtroom the way he's been trying to do in the media.

steffaroob4

07-23-2008, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

I can't see Drew using Brodsky as a trial attorney either. I think Brodsky think's he's doing a great job, but all I see is a lawyer/ambulance chaser who's in this for the publicity he's getting. Drew would be insane to keep Brodsky for trial... But then it would sure be entertaining to see Brodsky trying to spin things in a courtroom the way he's been trying to do in the media. [/*]

I don't see him using JB either, I have always believed JB is in this for the PR and not even charging DP. DP will open his wallet when he needs to get someone good. I also believe that this decision will be the reason DP goes to jail.

MichelleP

07-23-2008, 01:32 PM

"If there truly are tapes Wawczak and Stark secretly recorded for authorities as they claim, Drew hopes the tapes are released soon because he knows that they will prove he is innocent."

Maybe there is nothing incriminating in those tapes, but I still don't see how those tapes will prove him innocent.

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Here's a quote from Brodsky's statement that shows how ignorant he is.

“To answer the second question first, if Drew had made any incriminating statement to Wawczak and Stark when they were supposedly undercover agents, today’s news would include their arrest for obstruction of justice."

Here we have two people working with law enforcement & Brodsky actually says something as nonsensical as the above.

Brodsky obviously needs help understanding the working relationship between law enforcement & informants.

Brodsky's Statement ~ Thanks to mldm for posting it. (http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=720&z=4) [/*]:rolleyes: Maybe you should read the statement with a little more understanding before you start calling people ignorant. A obstruction of justice charge would stem from the release of the information, (if there really is any) by Wawczak and Stark while there is an ongoing investigation. If they indeed were working for the police and had secured incriminating tapes on their behalf those tapes become the property of law enforcement and are not for public consumption and should not be divulged by the procurers. By doing so they may have jeopardized or impeded any further investigations. So Brodsky is correct. That' probably why he is a lawyer and your not.:read:

no1what

07-23-2008, 01:48 PM

I do not believe there will be an arrest until after the hearing for the "hearsay testimony" has been concluded in Illinois.

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by MichelleP
"If there truly are tapes Wawczak and Stark secretly recorded for authorities as they claim, Drew hopes the tapes are released soon because he knows that they will prove he is innocent."

Maybe there is nothing incriminating in those tapes, but I still don't see how those tapes will prove him innocent. [/*]:shrug: He hasn't been found guilty of anything yet.

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 01:58 PM

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
:rolleyes: Maybe you should read the statement with a little more understanding

snipped

I understand the statement perfectly. I also understand Brodsky's ignorance. I just don't understand why Brodsky is so ignorant. Maybe you have a problem understanding the working relationship between law enforcement & informants? :shrug:

The first article that appeared about this couple is an obvious 'planted' article. I believe law enforcement has something to do with both articles. Hence no bullcrap obstruction charge. Brodsky has his work cut out for him. Again.

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
He has done pretty well so far.:beer:

Thanks for the laugh. :)

Brodsky has done anything but well for his client. Ask any defense lawyer. They're sure to agree.

IMO

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

He thinks they should be arrested for obstruction of justice???? Ok, that just plain confuses me.. lol, The were wearing the wires for LE, for crying out loud... What were THEY obstructing? [/*]That may be because you don't understand what all obstruction of justice entails. In my opinion it is easier for some people to call other people ignorant than it is for them to try and understand what they said.

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Thanks for the laugh. :)

Brodsky has done anything but well for his client. Ask any defense lawyer. They're sure to agree.

IMO [/*]What a totally ridiculous statement. Are you saying you have personally talked with defense lawyers that had nothing better to do but follow this case and that they agree with you.:lol:

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.

snipped

Are you saying you have personally talked with defense lawyers

snipped

No. I said what I said. Ask any defense lawyer and they'll tell you straight up what a terrible job Brodsky is doing. Most definitely.

IMO.

MichelleP

07-23-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
:shrug: He hasn't been found guilty of anything yet. [/*]

Of course not because he hasn't been tried yet.

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
That may be because you don't understand what all obstruction of justice entails. In my opinion it is easier for some people to call other people ignorant than it is for them to try and understand what they said. [/*]

Excuse me, but I do understand what an obstruction of justice charge is. And these people will NOT be brought up on those charges. That is just wishful thinking on Drew and Brodsky's part. And perhaps on your part as well.

no1what

07-23-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

I understand the statement perfectly. I also understand Brodsky's ignorance. I just don't understand why Brodsky is so ignorant. Maybe you have a problem understanding the working relationship between law enforcement & informants? :shrug:

The first article that appeared about this couple is an obvious 'planted' article. I believe law enforcement has something to do with both articles. Hence no bullcrap obstruction charge. Brodsky has his work cut out for him. Again. [/*]

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I think the problem with Phil S not understanding that JB's Bulls_it approach (the only one he has) will ultimately fail is because it is only as successful as JB is lead to believe.

In other words JB and Drew open mouths and insert foot on LE command.

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

No. I said what I said. Ask any defense lawyer and they'll tell you straight up what a terrible job Brodsky is doing. Most definitely.

IMO. [/*]:lol: There are 1000's of defense lawyers. Do you know of any that you would care to recomend. Or are you speaking for all of them. I note you end with "Most definitley". I was just wondering why you are so sure how other defense lawyers will respond. If you really do know any lawyers have them explain obstruction of justice to you.

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
:lol: There are 1000's of defense lawyers. Do you know of any that you would care to recomend. Or are you speaking for all of them. I note you end with "Most definitley". I was just wondering why you are so sure how other defense lawyers will respond. If you really do know any lawyers have them explain obstruction of justice to you. [/*]

You don't even have to ask defense lawyers. Go back and listen/watch some of the videos of the guest panels on Greta's or Nancy's shows and see what they have to say about Brodsky's "tactics". I don't think I ever saw one of those guest defense attorneys defend Brodsky's methods...

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by no1what

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I think the problem with Phil S not understanding that JB's Bulls_it approach (the only one he has) will ultimately fail is because it is only as successful as JB is lead to believe.

In other words JB and Drew open mouths and insert foot on LE command. [/*]:lol: Ludicrous. I do see a parallel in your last statement. Some posters(present company excluded) would do better not to post and thought a fool, than post and remove all doubt.

MichelleP

07-23-2008, 02:48 PM

" If they indeed were working for the police and had secured incriminating tapes on their behalf those tapes become the property of law enforcement and are not for public consumption and should not be divulged by the procurers."

Were they ever divulged? All I read is that Drew's friends secretly were wire tapped, but I don't remember reading anything that is on the tapes.

kizzzy

07-23-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
What a totally ridiculous statement. Are you saying you have personally talked with defense lawyers that had nothing better to do but follow this case and that they agree with you.:lol: [/*]

Hmmmmmmm why doesn't your post count change?

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by MichelleP
" If they indeed were working for the police and had secured incriminating tapes on their behalf those tapes become the property of law enforcement and are not for public consumption and should not be divulged by the procurers."

Were they ever divulged? All I read is that Drew's friends secretly were wire tapped, but I don't remember reading anything that is on the tapes. [/*]

In one of the articles out this morning, it was stated that the things that the couple were divulging were things that were said when they didn't have the wires on. So, whatever is on the tapes, only LE, the couple and Drew know. And, perhaps the GJ? Do you suppose that LE has been playing some of those tapes for the GJ all this time?

Phil S.

07-23-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

You don't even have to ask defense lawyers. Go back and listen/watch some of the videos of the guest panels on Greta's or Nancy's shows and see what they have to say about Brodsky's "tactics". I don't think I ever saw one of those guest defense attorneys defend Brodsky's methods... [/*]The quote is "Ask any lawyer". The poster is absolute in their belief that they will all reply in kind. I just wanted to know out of the 1000's of defense lawyers which ones they had asked. If they are suggesting that they are speaking for the group they should have a least spoken with someone. Your own statement has uncertainty when you post "I don't think I ever saw".

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
The quote is "Ask any lawyer". The poster is absolute in their belief that they will all reply in kind. I just wanted to know out of the 1000's of defense lawyers which ones they had asked. If they are suggesting that they are speaking for the group they should have a least spoken with someone. Your own statement has uncertainty when you post "I don't think I ever saw". [/*]

Good bye. :seeya:

Click!

Jpanda

07-23-2008, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by MichelleP
" If they indeed were working for the police and had secured incriminating tapes on their behalf those tapes become the property of law enforcement and are not for public consumption and should not be divulged by the procurers."

Were they ever divulged? All I read is that Drew's friends secretly were wire tapped, but I don't remember reading anything that is on the tapes. [/*]

Nope, they have not released anyting that was on those tapes. That's why there will be no obstruction of justice charge.

:)

Land Shark®

07-23-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Jpanda

Nope, they have not released anyting that was on those tapes. That's why there will be no obstruction of justice charge.

:)

Hence Brodsky's ignorance. ;)

KP1935

07-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Hence Brodsky's ignorance. ;) [/*]

He really enjoys showing it off, he couldn't help himself!

Following DP's comments about anything on tapes exonerating him, I think LE should just call the house and start laughing continuously!

Jpanda

07-23-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Hence Brodsky's ignorance. ;) [/*]

Absolutely correct, my friend. :)

not.another

07-23-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Jpanda

Nope, they have not released anyting that was on those tapes. That's why there will be no obstruction of justice charge.

:) [/*]

I haven't heard anything on the tapes either. I do recall Lenny stating that DP is going down. So, there must be something incriminating on them or why would he say that. IMO of course!

no1what

07-23-2008, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
:lol: Ludicrous. I do see a parallel in your last statement. Some posters(present company excluded) would do better not to post and thought a fool, than post and remove all doubt. [/*]

It isn't my post that have the majority of this forum shaking their heads going: Hmmmmmm!

no1what

07-23-2008, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Phil S.
The quote is "Ask any lawyer". The poster is absolute in their belief that they will all reply in kind

Originally posted by Anakerie

Good bye. :seeya:

Click! [/*]

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oh no! Did Phil S. get banned? I am pretty sure he'll be missed.:beer:

mdlm

07-23-2008, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Jpanda

Absolutely correct, my friend. :) [/*]

z
**********************

To the best of my knowledge, Amber Frye held a press conference before Scott Petersons trial. I do not believe being an informant keeps you from making a public statement...it would only be an issue if someone divulged something LE didn't want them to.

Time will tell.
imo and jmo and yada...

concernedmom

07-23-2008, 08:30 PM

does anyone think Steve c is working for the police?

Anakerie

07-23-2008, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by no1what
Originally posted by Phil S.
The quote is "Ask any lawyer". The poster is absolute in their belief that they will all reply in kind

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oh no! Did Phil S. get banned? I am pretty sure he'll be missed.:beer: [/*]

lol, I don't know if Phil S. got banned or anything.. My "click" comment was about me thinking it was time to ignore him/her... hehe... I know he/she was posting on the Phil Spector thread after I did the "click" post..
:shrug:

not.another

07-23-2008, 10:11 PM

I consider JB to be "ignorant" because he believes and backs up all of DP's lies. I understand as a lawyer that is his job. But, why doesn't he just stop making statements as other defense lawyers have recommended? Besides, I could think of alot worse words to use than "ignorant". However, I will refrain from using them.

;)

steffaroob4

07-24-2008, 08:31 AM

Friend: I Posed As Woman To Snag Drew Peterson
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.love.2.778811.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ¯ Len Wawczak did more than just talk with his former friend Drew Peterson using a wire. CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli talked with Wawczak overnight about Peterson professing his love online to what he thought was another woman.

gino1234

07-24-2008, 08:56 AM

Gretta reported the couple was in hidding.

What are they hidding from?

JMO Drew is one of the most hated people on the planet right up their w/ terrorist.

no1what

07-24-2008, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by gino1234
Gretta reported the couple was in hidding.

What are they hidding from?

JMO Drew is one of the most hated people on the planet right up their w/ terrorist. [/*]

Still all in all you would hate to wake up with him standing over you while you slept.

I have a feeling that might be how it happened with Kathleen. Drew can pick a mean lock.

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Friend: I Posed As Woman To Snag Drew Peterson
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.love.2.778811.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ¯ Len Wawczak did more than just talk with his former friend Drew Peterson using a wire. CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli talked with Wawczak overnight about Peterson professing his love online to what he thought was another woman. [/*]

ROFLMAO!:lol:

I've been reading "Ashey's" blog and message board off and on ever since "she" started them. The attacks from the pro-Drew people were funny and now they seem even more hilarious... I need to go over on the pro-Drew board and see what his fans have to say now! lol

snap4

07-24-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

ROFLMAO!:lol:

I've been reading "Ashey's" blog and message board off and on ever since "she" started them. The attacks from the pro-Drew people were funny and now they seem even more hilarious... I need to go over on the pro-Drew board and see what his fans have to say now! lol [/*]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!! I was taking a sip of coffee when I read who the real ashely was and just about spit it all over my keyboard!! How flippin hilarious...I will laugh all day about this.
Talk about a h*%y S*!%T moment. And we were all begging "her" to go to the police with "her" info! LMAO

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Friend: I Posed As Woman To Snag Drew Peterson
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.love.2.778811.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ¯ Len Wawczak did more than just talk with his former friend Drew Peterson using a wire. CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli talked with Wawczak overnight about Peterson professing his love online to what he thought was another woman.

Oh man. This is priceless. Too damn funny. Brodsky must be itching for a presser now. Can't wait to hear the newest spin.

This is getting better & better. :)

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by gino1234
Greta reported the couple was in hiding.

What are they hiding from?

JMO Drew is one of the most hated people on the planet right up their w/ terrorist.

They're hiding from Drew Peterson. Until he's indicted & arrested I'm sure. :)

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 10:38 AM

Is anyone watching the "Today" show? Here's one of the "press releases" from Drew's publicist's website:

http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=721&z=4

Summary: Drew Peterson and criminal defense attorney Joel Brodsky will make joint appearances on both NBC's 'Today' and CBS' 'The Early Show' on Thursday morning. They will discuss the alleged wiretap of Drew Peterson by now former friends Paula Stark and Len Wawczak.

Joel Brodsky issued a statement following a report published in the Chicago Sun-Times that the former friends of Peterson wore a wiretap and secretly recorded conversations with Peterson for authorities.

ETA: I am still sitting here giggling about this news.... lol.. The pro-Drew board is amazingly quiet about this news for some reason, there are only a couple of posts about it... lol

joolz

07-24-2008, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

They're hiding from Drew Peterson. Until he's indicted & arrested I'm sure. :) [/*]

I don't blame them.;)

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Is anyone watching the "Today" show? Here's one of the "press releases" from Drew's publicist's website:

http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=721&z=4

Summary: Drew Peterson and criminal defense attorney Joel Brodsky will make joint appearances on both NBC's 'Today' and CBS' 'The Early Show' on Thursday morning. They will discuss the alleged wiretap of Drew Peterson by now former friends Paula Stark and Len Wawczak.

Joel Brodsky issued a statement following a report published in the Chicago Sun-Times that the former friends of Peterson wore a wiretap and secretly recorded conversations with Peterson for authorities.

I'm watching Cash Cab. :)

I'll be sure to check out NBC's website later today to see the interview. I wonder if they were sandbagged with the news that Len is also online Ashley. :D

mdlm

07-24-2008, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

ROFLMAO!:lol:

I've been reading "Ashey's" blog and message board off and on ever since "she" started them. The attacks from the pro-Drew people were funny and now they seem even more hilarious... I need to go over on the pro-Drew board and see what his fans have to say now! lol [/*]

Never saw this coming...bet Drew didn't either...OMG! Oh how the tables have turned.

:rose: Justice for Kathleen and Stacy...I believe it's coming soon.

snap4

07-24-2008, 10:43 AM

anyone have a link to the pro drew site I have never seen it? Thanks in advance
snap

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

I'm watching Cash Cab. :)

I'll be sure to check out NBC's website later today to see the interview. I wonder if they were sandbagged with the news that Len is also online Ashley. :D [/*]

lol, I'll have to watch NBC's website too... I wonder if this morning's news about Len is going to derail whatever "spin" Drew and Brodsky were planning on spouting about the wires...

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by snap4
anyone have a link to the pro drew site I have never seen it? Thanks in advance
snap [/*]

I don't think we can put a link to another message board in here... I'd pm it to you, but your pm's aren't enabled..

ETA: The "pro-Drew" board is not one for easy lurking. You have to join it in order to read any posts.

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

lol, I'll have to watch NBC's website too... I wonder if this morning's news about Len is going to derail whatever "spin" Drew and Brodsky were planning on spouting about the wires...

Yeah. We'll have to wait for NBC & CBS to post the interview. CBS is showing People's Court in my area. The Today show ends in eleven minutes so I'm sure we missed the live interview.

mdlm

07-24-2008, 10:56 AM

The only thing that could possibly make this day better is Tom Morphey testifying before the Grand Jury...

It seems LE has decided to put a stop the the DP and JB sideshow big time.

imo and jmo and yada...

steffaroob4

07-24-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

ROFLMAO!:lol:

I've been reading "Ashey's" blog and message board off and on ever since "she" started them. The attacks from the pro-Drew people were funny and now they seem even more hilarious... I need to go over on the pro-Drew board and see what his fans have to say now! lol [/*]

yes, they sure are funny, since Ashley definately knew DP in more ways than one.

The one think that struck me about Ashley was the anger/hatred towards DP, that is why many people thought Ashley was a member of Stacy's inner circle. It sure is funny that she/he is an member of DP's.

snap4

07-24-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

I don't think we can put a link to another message board in here... I'd pm it to you, but your pm's aren't enabled..

ETA: The "pro-Drew" board is not one for easy lurking. You have to join it in order to read any posts. [/*]

Thanks if you could be so kind as to tell me how to turn on my PM I will do that. Much appreciated
snap

steffaroob4

07-24-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Oh man. This is priceless. Too damn funny. Brodsky must be itching for a presser now. Can't wait to hear the newest spin.

This is getting better & better. :) [/*]

It is pretty funny and they are still talking, one would think that JB would figure out to shut his big mouth and tell his client the same thing.

Do you see an issue of lack of proper attorney counsel that may give DP a chance of getting off? I would think that only applies once a suspect is charged.

steffaroob4

07-24-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by mdlm
The only thing that could possibly make this day better is Tom Morphey testifying before the Grand Jury...

It seems LE has decided to put a stop the the DP and JB sideshow big time.

imo and jmo and yada... [/*]

Oh, it is Thursday, what a good idea.

Any news on the gov. signing the hearsay rule, yet?

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by snap4

Thanks if you could be so kind as to tell me how to turn on my PM I will do that. Much appreciated
snap [/*]

Click on your "user cp" button up at the top, then click on the "options" tab. Go to the 2nd area and look for the one that says "Enable Private Messages" and click the "Yes" to the right.. Save and you'll be able to receive PM's.

snap4

07-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Click on your "user cp" button up at the top, then click on the "options" tab. Go to the 2nd area and look for the one that says "Enable Private Messages" and click the "Yes" to the right.. Save and you'll be able to receive PM's. [/*]

Thank you, it is on now
snap

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by steffaroob4

It is pretty funny and they are still talking, one would think that JB would figure out to shut his big mouth and tell his client the same thing.

Do you see an issue of lack of proper attorney counsel that may give DP a chance of getting off? I would think that only applies once a suspect is charged.

Right now & since he joined Drew, Brodsky is nothing but a mouthpiece. Sure he did a little legal work for Drew. But he's an attorney acting as a mouthpiece most of all. He won't be around when Drew goes to trial. He'll be on as many news shows as will have him though. I bet.

IMO.

steffaroob4

07-24-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Right now & since he joined Drew, Brodsky is nothing but a mouthpiece. Sure he did a little legal work for Drew. But he's an attorney acting as a mouthpiece most of all. He won't be around when Drew goes to trial. He'll be on as many news shows as will have him though. I bet.

IMO. [/*]

Thanks, I sure hope we some more action today, this is fun.

not.another

07-24-2008, 11:24 AM

Here is the link from the Today show interview. DP looks a bit rough imo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25829498/

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by snap4

Thank you, it is on now
snap [/*]

And you have a PM now... lol

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by not.another
Here is the link from the Today show interview. DP looks a bit rough imo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25829498/

Thanks. :)

Notice how they belittle the friends. Constantly.

When Drew is asked about the unrecorded comment 'I should have had Kathleen's body cremated', Drew says 'it's unrecorded you say? No. I never said anything like that'. Paraphrased.

What a POS.

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by not.another
Here is the link from the Today show interview. DP looks a bit rough imo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25829498/ [/*]

Thank you for the link! And yes, Drew looks rough... I'll bet he's not sleeping very much right now... lol

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 12:15 PM

Ok, I was finally able to watch the whole video of Drew and Brodsky's appearance on the Today show this morning... What struck me is that they talk and talk, but there is no substance to what they are saying. All they do is bash and run down anyone who is "against" Drew.

Those two need to stay OFF the air... lol

not.another

07-24-2008, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Ok, I was finally able to watch the whole video of Drew and Brodsky's appearance on the Today show this morning... What struck me is that they talk and talk, but there is no substance to what they are saying. All they do is bash and run down anyone who is "against" Drew.

Those two need to stay OFF the air... lol [/*]
----------------
Yes, did you notice how Drew butted in and added the ebay fiasco? He will say anything to make others look bad.

snap4

07-24-2008, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

And you have a PM now... lol [/*]

and now your box is full and I need to pm you LOL

snap

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by not.another

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Yes, did you notice how Drew butted in and added the ebay fiasco? He will say anything to make others look bad. [/*]

lol, Yep.. I noticed him mentioning the hat that never sold.... hehe

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by snap4

and now your box is full and I need to pm you LOL

snap [/*]

Oops! Sorry about that! Try now... hehe

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 01:47 PM

This link has video of an interview of Len "coming out" over on the right hand side... hehe

Friend: I Posed As Woman To Snag Drew Peterson
Len Wawczak Says He Was 'Ashley' In A Mock Online Romance With Drew Peterson
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.love.2.778811

not.another

07-24-2008, 03:38 PM

Here's another spin.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1072168,4_1_JO24_PETERSON_S1.article
PETERSON: DUO 'TAKING ADVANTAGE' OF 'ANGUISH'
MEDIA FOLLOWS A BOLINGBROOK COUPLE WHO SAY THEY WORE A WIRE TO HELP POLICE COLLECT EVIDENCE AGAINST DREW PETERSON.

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by not.another
Here's another spin.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1072168,4_1_JO24_PETERSON_S1.article
PETERSON: DUO 'TAKING ADVANTAGE' OF 'ANGUISH'
MEDIA FOLLOWS A BOLINGBROOK COUPLE WHO SAY THEY WORE A WIRE TO HELP POLICE COLLECT EVIDENCE AGAINST DREW PETERSON.

Ha! Thanks for this. :)

A quote from the link:

Stark and Wawczak are just looking to cash in on his misery and were sniffing around for money long before this, Peterson said .

"And on top of that, I caught Paula in my bedroom taking pictures," Peterson said. "So I have more friends taking advantage of my anguish."

What 'misery'?

What 'anguish'?

This idiot was smiling on every damn interview right after his wife 'left him for another man'.

If Stacy left this idiot for another man... why would this idiot talk about remains?

Rhetorical question. I know the answer. :cool:

Jpanda

07-24-2008, 04:28 PM

OHMY GOD!!! "Ashley" is really Len!!!! I'm dying over here - WOW! That man deserves a medal!!

I really had no idea....wow.

Anything that makes DP feel like an idiot is absolutely amazing in my book. :D

jmo

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 04:36 PM

Evidently, Jpanda & I are working with the same book. :D

Jpanda

07-24-2008, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Evidently, Jpanda & I are working with the same book. :D [/*]

Ha!! You got that right - I'm betting our book ends with a trial and conviction as well.

I seriously just called my mom and sis to let them know about Len being Ashley....we've been pouring over that site for weeks now....I want to shake that man's hand.

Now I'll just wait patiently for DP to be arrested. Just thinking about the fact that LE stopped the wire tapping because they have enough makes me SO hopeful.

jmo

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by not.another
Here's another spin.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1072168,4_1_JO24_PETERSON_S1.article
PETERSON: DUO 'TAKING ADVANTAGE' OF 'ANGUISH'
MEDIA FOLLOWS A BOLINGBROOK COUPLE WHO SAY THEY WORE A WIRE TO HELP POLICE COLLECT EVIDENCE AGAINST DREW PETERSON. [/*]

Another "spin" is right! lol.. I swear, Drew and Brodsky should be very dizzy by now with all the spinning they are having to do. They have to KNOW by now how stupid they look to the rest of the world. According to them, everyone else is crazy, everyone else is greedy, everyone else is lying... Uhm... Everyone??? Sheesh!

no1what

07-24-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Another "spin" is right! lol.. I swear, Drew and Brodsky should be very dizzy by now with all the spinning they are having to do. They have to KNOW by now how stupid they look to the rest of the world. According to them, everyone else is crazy, everyone else is greedy, everyone else is lying... Uhm... Everyone??? Sheesh! [/*]

---------------------------------------------

I guess that makes Brodsky one of THEM who wants to make money off of Drew since 1. he gets paid and 2. they hired that writer to write a book at $100 per copy.

So in reality the only 2 people I really see trying to make money off of Stacy's disappearance (not Drew's missery) is Drew and Brodsky.

concernedmom

07-24-2008, 10:40 PM

What are they saying?

Joan Weiss

07-24-2008, 10:46 PM

concernedmom

07-24-2008, 10:49 PM

thanks.

Land Shark®

07-24-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Joan Weiss
I don't get why this couple is talking about all this. They obviously may have to testify in court. This is not good, imo.

You're right. This isn't good.

It's GREAT.

Drew's own words on tape will help do him in. I'm giddy. :)

concernedmom

07-24-2008, 10:55 PM

Anakerie

07-24-2008, 11:07 PM

With all the news today about Len and Paula (and the Ashley blog!!), I wonder if any of the media were watching to see who, if anyone, went in to the GJ today... It's coming down to the end of the time for this GJ, surely something will happen soon... I HOPE!

I am still grinning about the news and about how Drew and Brodsky tried to spin things in their interviews today!

summer4meplz

07-25-2008, 12:22 AM

I'm hoping the grand jury spent their day handing down indictment after indictment after indictment...

mdlm

07-25-2008, 12:44 PM

I was reading a response by Drew on Danya Hookers...petersonstory.wordpress...I am not sure if it is a blog or news source so I won't post a link because I believe its against the rules here...anyway, here is a quote from Drew about Paula and Len:
"But, when people smell money, theres no parameters of who your victims are going to be."

Of all the stuff that comes out of his mouth this is really telling to me. Speaks volumes about the way he thinks. Does he really think all people are like him?

:shrug:

imo and jmo and yada...

Jpanda

07-25-2008, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by mdlm
I was reading a response by Drew on Danya Hookers...petersonstory.wordpress...I am not sure if it is a blog or news source so I won't post a link because I believe its against the rules here...anyway, here is a quote from Drew about Paula and Len:
"But, when people smell money, theres no parameters of who your victims are going to be."

Of all the stuff that comes out of his mouth this is really telling to me. Speaks volumes about the way he thinks. Does he really think all people are like him?

:shrug:

imo and jmo and yada... [/*]

Hi mdlm,

I don't think Drew really believes the BS he spews....I think he knows they got some good stuff on him and that they made him look like an idiot, so he's trying to "save face" (which is HILARIOUS) and make them out to be money grubbers.

any day now.....:biggrin:

Anakerie

07-25-2008, 05:59 PM

Police respond to Peterson, Wawczak fight
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/1075142,JO25_PETERSONFIGHT_WEB.article

Former Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson and his neighbor and former friend Len Wawczak were escorted to the Bolingbrook police station following a confrontation in the parking lot of a Bolingbrook strip mall Friday afternoon.

At least eight squad cars responded to a confrontation.

After reading the article, I am sitting here shaking my head at the stupidity displayed by BOTH of these guys... Sheesh! Things with Drew seem to be boiling over. No telling what the man is going to do next!

Anakerie

07-25-2008, 06:02 PM

Remember an interview with Drew a while back when he "challenged" everyone to find someone who had seen him mad?

Well....

Peterson Has Angry Words for Couple Who Says They Taped Him
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7059883&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

barneysam2

07-25-2008, 06:16 PM

Poor Drew, in an effort to get a new "do" was
confronted in a barbershop by his former friend
and "wired" neighbor. I just love the comment
the neighbor made that even tho he got a tcket
for battery or whatever, Drew wouldn't be around
for the hearing because he would "gone" by then,
meaning Mr. P would be charged with double M.

I feel so sorry for the children involved in this
unnecessary mess...but then Drew is a mess.
hammer

Anakerie

07-25-2008, 06:18 PM

Apparently Len got charged with "battery" because he pushed Drew's back and now Drew's back hurts. :rolleyes:

Wawczak confronts Drew Peterson
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1075261,boling072508.article

Anakerie

07-25-2008, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by barneysam2
Poor Drew, in an effort to get a new "do" was
confronted in a barbershop by his former friend
and "wired" neighbor. I just love the comment
the neighbor made that even tho he got a tcket
for battery or whatever, Drew wouldn't be around
for the hearing because he would "gone" by then,
meaning Mr. P would be charged with double M.

I feel so sorry for the children involved in this
unnecessary mess...but then Drew is a mess.
hammer [/*]

IMO, Drew set Len up for that fight. Going around "bragging" that he slept with Paula, giving dirty looks to Len's son and all the media just "happens to be there". Yeah, right... I'm sure it came off just as Drew planned. What a jerk.

I heard one interview of Paula on one of those links, (I don't remember which one.) where she says that he told her that when the cops come to arrest him, he's going to "commit suicide by cop". Drew is losing it.. Fast.

steffaroob4

07-25-2008, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

IMO, Drew set Len up for that fight. Going around "bragging" that he slept with Paula, giving dirty looks to Len's son and all the media just "happens to be there". Yeah, right... I'm sure it came off just as Drew planned. What a jerk.

I heard one interview of Paula on one of those links, (I don't remember which one.) where she says that he told her that when the cops come to arrest him, he's going to "commit suicide by cop". Drew is losing it.. Fast. [/*]

In all of this mess, every step he has put down people that he chose to be dating, married to, friends with, his relatives, his fellow co-workers, the list goes on and on.

Has DP ever had a nice thing to say about anyone he knows?

Granted this Len mess today is no shining moment for LE but it just makes one shake their head to the kinds of things this case has brought out.

Did the Illinois gov. sign that hearsay rule, yet? I am getting tired of waiting.

MyrDawn

07-25-2008, 07:15 PM

Greta has a video of the interview with Paula Stark and Len Wawczak on her website. Here's a link:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2606347&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

They make it pretty clear they've been given guidelines as to what they can and can't discuss.

Boy, this is getting curiouser and curiouser! Peterson may keep his cool in public, but I'll bet he's sweating bullets.

:lol:

not.another

07-25-2008, 07:30 PM

I find it highly coincidental that Len's son and Drew just "happened to be at the same barbershop. Remember the control issues he & Stacy had with him following her all over. He probably followed Len's son to this barbershop in hopes of something like this happening. Len did not use good judgement and should have just let it go. And who comes up smelling like a rose? Good ole Drew, again.

IMO Drew can only intimidate women and people younger than himself. He shows great control when he is confronted with someone his age.

I wish this wouldn't have happened. Is Bolingbrook that much of a small town that they would run into each other like this? It makes me think of when I mentioned he looked rough on his most recent interview and now here he is getting his haircut! CREEPY to say the least.

mdlm

07-25-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by grammybear
All of the goings on of Drew and his attorney shows me just how childish Drew is to have the final world. Imagine Drew giving Lens son dirty looks, how childish is that.
Drew has brought all of this on himself imo. After all the years of being able to push people around, imo he does not like it when it is done to him. [/*]
***********************
Hmm... what little Joel revelations by Drew via the tapes will come out? Hey Lenny Joel did this...Hey, Paula Joel is my _! Hey Lenny and Paula, can you believe Joel said?
The best part is yet to come because Joel won,t hear Drews opinion of him till a trial is well under way.

imo and jmo and yada...

hammer

Land Shark®

07-26-2008, 01:48 AM

I really wish Wawczak didn't take Drew's bait.

But if he didn't, we probably wouldn't get to hear Brodsky say something as asinine as this:

"I don't want to compare Drew to OJ, but"

I left the context out on purpose. Because even an idiot lawyer should know to NEVER, EVER compare their client to the other guiltiest man on the planet. No matter the context.

Evidently, Brodsky is more of an idiot than I originally thought.

Yet another example of Brodsky's bad lawyering.

IMO.

Confrontation Was First Meeting Since Wiretap Revelation (msnbc.msn.com/id/25852523/)

mdlm

07-26-2008, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
I really wish Wawczak didn't take Drew's bait.

But if he didn't, we probably wouldn't get to hear Brodsky say something as asinine as this:

"I don't want to compare Drew to OJ, but"

I left the context out on purpose. Because even an idiot lawyer should know to NEVER, EVER compare their client to the other guiltiest man on the planet. No matter the context.

Evidently, Brodsky is more of an idiot than I originally thought.

Yet another example of Brodsky's bad lawyering.

IMO.

Confrontation Was First Meeting Since Wiretap Revelation (msnbc.msn.com/id/25852523/) [/*]

I agree JB's a pill and a bitter one at that. But, I really believe that since no-one in Drews inner-circle of family/wives/co-workers/pmsers/street rat/money hungry/drug taking/ blah and blah has been immune from Drews moral observations...that Joel has a big surprise coming. 1000's of hours of tapes ( or so I've heard ) I'll put my money down that when and if Joel has to review them during discovery, he'll have his own bitter pill to swallow.

:beer:

imo and jmo

Fallen Angel

07-26-2008, 10:38 AM

i'd pay $100 to "push" drew :D

Anakerie

07-26-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
i'd pay $100 to "push" drew :D [/*]

:lol: Me too!

Anakerie

07-26-2008, 11:52 AM

Anakerie

07-26-2008, 12:00 PM

Drew Peterson: Our Cowardly Lion
by: Rebekah Price

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69554

Land Shark®

07-26-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Drew Peterson: Our Cowardly Lion
by: Rebekah Price

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69554

Interesting. Drew does indeed look like an aging sociopath cowardly lion. :)

One screw up in there though... Ms. Price states this: They reported Peterson mentioned he should have cremated Stacy.

We all know Drew was talking about Kathleen when he made the above statement.

spiritwolf46

07-26-2008, 04:14 PM

spiritwolf46

07-26-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
i'd pay $100 to "push" drew :D [/*]

OMG That is SOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!!! ME TOO!!!!!!!

:lol:

MichelleP

07-26-2008, 07:47 PM

I can't wait till Drew is arrested.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25807204/

So what if they were motivated by money? I really don't see what the big deal is there. As long as they are telling the truth and the recordings are real and haven't been tampered with I don't see what the issue is.

It seems that http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1417 Drew obviously has no problem taking money so why is it okay for him and not okay for someone else?

charm7

07-26-2008, 11:28 PM

spiritwolf46

07-26-2008, 11:54 PM

OH MY DEAR GAWD!!!!! I JUST saw who the real Ashley was! Oh this is just TOO good to be true!!!!!! I am sitting here, mouth WIDE open, jaw on floor!

AMAZING! I cannot stop chuckling and literally ROTFL!

I absolutely cannot WAIT for all of this to be public!

He WILL be taken in custody soon, I truly feel it! I could not be happier right now!

:seeya: (Wish there was a happy happy, joy joy dancing smiley on here!)

aubrey04

07-27-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46
OH MY DEAR GAWD!!!!! I JUST saw who the real Ashley was! Oh this is just TOO good to be true!!!!!! I am sitting here, mouth WIDE open, jaw on floor!

AMAZING! I cannot stop chuckling and literally ROTFL!

I absolutely cannot WAIT for all of this to be public!

He WILL be taken in custody soon, I truly feel it! I could not be happier right now!

:seeya: (Wish there was a happy happy, joy joy dancing smiley on here!) [/*]

Who is the "real" Ashley? Do tell.. if you can't tell here, please pm me. I am dying to know.. I didn't know it had been revealed yet....

WHO?.........please tell me. I am dying to know.

mdlm

07-27-2008, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Lyndawitha"Y

I would think that the simple fact that Drew is harrassing these people..speaks volumes...It seems they have the good on him..and he knows it..why else should he feel compelled to intimidate them????!!

Joel is spinning as usual..deny..deny..deny!!..not admisable..whatever..I really do want to see that smirk wiped of Joel;s face..big time!!

LMShammer [/*]

Lenny and Paula could have sold their story as JB says for
1,000,000,000...to the NE. They didn't...speaks volumes.

X'S and O'S for Len and Paula!

imo and jmo and yada....

Land Shark®

07-27-2008, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by aubrey04

Who is the "real" Ashley? Do tell.. if you can't tell here, please pm me. I am dying to know.. I didn't know it had been revealed yet....

WHO?.........please tell me. I am dying to know.

Len Wawczak was Ashley.

Read upthread for the links. :)

aubrey04

07-27-2008, 03:10 PM

I didn't see the link on here for the "shoving match" but here it is...

From the article:

Len Wawczak, a former friend of Peterson's, was charged with misdemeanor battery and released after posting $100 bond.
"I pushed him twice. ... I don't have a problem with that," Wawczak told WLS-TV. "It was the best one hundred dollars I ever spent in my life. ... I'd do it again."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/26/peterson.wire.ap/index.html?iref=werecommend

aubrey04

07-27-2008, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Len Wawczak was Ashley.

Read upthread for the links. :) [/*]

OMG -- okay, I am sorry.. I only scanned the first few pages & then read this page. I am sorry, I am dingbat. I knew about Len Wawczak's wiretap but I hadn't connected it to the Ashley page (since I obviously one of those annoying posters to not read the skimpy little 4 page thread thorougly)... I apologize for my laziness.

Wow. What a turn of events... and I thought Wawczark wearing a wire was shocking but to know he was behind the webpage.. I would check that webpage daily for awhile and I was always shocked.

Ohhhh please, let something come out of all of this and the grand jury -- I want to see Drew nailed to the wall.
ugh.

north-eh

07-27-2008, 04:48 PM

Yes, it looks good on DP doesn't it!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! Not! DP and Brodksy really need to get a grip.....their dumbness has definately been showing for far too long.
N

MichelleP

07-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Lyndawitha"Y

I would think that the simple fact that Drew is harrassing these people..speaks volumes...It seems they have the good on him..and he knows it..why else should he feel compelled to intimidate them????!!

Joel is spinning as usual..deny..deny..deny!!..not admisable..whatever..I really do want to see that smirk wiped of Joel;s face..big time!!

LMShammer [/*]

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.friends.2.777644.html

Well if his friends were really at the risk of losing their home, I feel bad for them. It isn't a crime to loose your home, I really feel bad for them if that article is true and they were at the risk of losing their home.

charm7

07-28-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Searching
I have a lawyer relative in the Chicago area. The feeling in the legal community is that Peterson won't be charged. If he is it would be next to impossible to pick a jury given all the press about the case. If charged, tried and convicted the case would be overturned on a appeal based on all the negative reporting. It's widely felt that the District Atty.'s Office and especially the Police Investigators have reached the end of their respective ropes with their faulty investigation. I'm inclined to agree. Just my opinion. [/*]

If they can pick a jury for Scott Peterson they can pick one for Drew IMO

delilah

07-28-2008, 05:46 PM

What would happen if EVERYONE on all of the forums, blogs and discussion boards contacted the Governor of Illinois' office ....all in one day!?? Do you think he would get the message and sign the Heresay Bill??

Tuesay, July 29.....Please....EVERYONE....make a call, send an email, or both. Just please do it!

Drew goes to court on Wednesday, wouldn't it be great if the bill was signed by then and an arrest was made?

Read below to see how you can make a difference!

----
217-782-0244 or 312-814-2121

http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Ask the governor of Illinois to sign the hearsay bill and make this a law!

Spend 10 minutes of your time making the call, writing the note, telling your friends, posting it on forums or blogs or myspace, or just sending it to your email list.

We've all spent so much of our time focused on Drew and Brodsky and Len and Paula and Hosey and Ric Mimms (woo hoo) ..

Stacy, Kathy, Kristopher, Thomas, Anthony, Lacy, they all deserve the effort.

mdlm

07-28-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by delilah
What would happen if EVERYONE on all of the forums, blogs and discussion boards contacted the Governor of Illinois' office ....all in one day!?? Do you think he would get the message and sign the Heresay Bill??

Tuesay, July 29.....Please....EVERYONE....make a call, send an email, or both. Just please do it!

Drew goes to court on Wednesday, wouldn't it be great if the bill was signed by then and an arrest was made?

Read below to see how you can make a difference!

----
217-782-0244 or 312-814-2121

http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Ask the governor of Illinois to sign the hearsay bill and make this a law!

Spend 10 minutes of your time making the call, writing the note, telling your friends, posting it on forums or blogs or myspace, or just sending it to your email list.

We've all spent so much of our time focused on Drew and Brodsky and Len and Paula and Hosey and Ric Mimms (woo hoo) ..

Stacy, Kathy, Kristopher, Thomas, Anthony, Lacy, they all deserve the effort. [/*]

I have...should I do it again?

mdlm

07-29-2008, 02:45 AM

If anyones contacting the Gov, they should probably contact this guy too!

mmadigan@hds.ilga.gov

Takes a lot to get these two to do or agree on anything. Worth a shot!

:patriot:

Jpanda

07-29-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Searching
I have a lawyer relative in the Chicago area. The feeling in the legal community is that Peterson won't be charged. If he is it would be next to impossible to pick a jury given all the press about the case. If charged, tried and convicted the case would be overturned on a appeal based on all the negative reporting. It's widely felt that the District Atty.'s Office and especially the Police Investigators have reached the end of their respective ropes with their faulty investigation. I'm inclined to agree. Just my opinion. [/*]

I have to respectfully disagree. I work at a law firm in Chicago and no one at my firm or anyone else I know in that community thinks it is a faulty investigation.

:)

JMO

kimmy56

07-29-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by Searching
:confused: Why would the governor be interested in what people outside of the state of Illinois think about a piece of Illinois legislation. [/*]

He may not; however, we don't live in a vacuum. What one state does affects another. It passed in CA, now it's our turn. This will keep going.

Land Shark®

07-29-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Jpanda

I have to respectfully disagree. I work at a law firm in Chicago and no one at my firm or anyone else I know in that community thinks it is a faulty investigation.

:)

JMO

Odd that not one of these mythical members of 'the legal community in Chicago' has commented publicly that they believe this is a 'faulty investigation'.

Quite the opposite actually.

I'll take Searching's post with a grain of popcorn salt.

That's the kind of salt where the grains are almost microscopic. :cool:

Land Shark®

07-29-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Searching

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Actually is quite possible

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Actually it's quite possible you're original post is fiction.

Very possible.

Highly probable.

IMO.

Land Shark®

07-29-2008, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Searching
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Sorry

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I forgive you. :)

It wasn't difficult at all to figure out your post is fiction.

Quite easy actually.

IMO.

no1what

07-29-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Searching
I have a lawyer relative in the Chicago area. The feeling in the legal community is that Peterson won't be charged. If he is it would be next to impossible to pick a jury given all the press about the case. If charged, tried and convicted the case would be overturned on a appeal based on all the negative reporting. It's widely felt that the District Atty.'s Office and especially the Police Investigators have reached the end of their respective ropes with their faulty investigation. I'm inclined to agree. Just my opinion. [/*]

-------------------------------------------

I'm sure it is Drew and JB's opinion too and that is why they try to maintain media attention.

They will find a jury, You are not as popular as you would like to be. oops I mean Drew.

delilah

07-29-2008, 04:34 PM

Please KEEP calling all day! This bill has to be signed! That's all it will take!

This is a true grassroots effort to stop the insanity surrounding this case.

----
217-782-0244 or 312-814-2121

http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

mdlm

07-29-2008, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Searching
:confused: Why would the governor be interested in what people outside of the state of Illinois think about a piece of Illinois legislation. [/*]

Because when you are a public official and have a little rumblings about maybe there is something not so up and up who has bigger dreams than local or state goverment, Nothing says I love the USA like helping put a murder in jail.

imo and jmo and yada...

:patriot:

mdlm

07-29-2008, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Searching
Different state, different laws, different circumstances, different defendant, cultrual differences of the population, different type of jury pool to draw from. But the point is even if convicted the feeling is he would win on appeal. Presently the prosecution and police have egg on their faces and it will be very hard for them to let go. [/*]

Hmmm,
I disagree,
If you are caught speeding on a camera at an IPASS lane, you get a ticket and it doesn't matter if the guy viewing it is a crackhead. If you are robbing a 7/11 and you are on tape, once again, doesn't matter if the clerk filed for Chapter 7, 11 or 13, you did it and the tape is evidence. If you are caught making comments on audio or video about a murder/ missing persons case...YOU effed up and it doesn't matter if the wire was on the Pope or an everyday average Joe.
1000's of hours...guess we all have to wait!

imo and jmo and Yada...

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 11:18 AM

Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Due in Court on Gun Charges in Case of Missing Fourth Wife (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394424,00.html)

not.another

07-30-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Due in Court on Gun Charges in Case of Missing Fourth Wife (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394424,00.html) [/*]

-----------------
Thanks for that. I have a bad feeling that the gun charge
will be thrown out. Everything just seems to be
pro-Drew right now. Will that ever change?

watchu

07-30-2008, 12:24 PM

Judge says gun case against Drew Peterson can proceed

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by watchu
Judge says gun case against Drew Peterson can proceed

Yep. Great news. Here's the updated article.

Judge Won't Dismiss Gun Charges Against Drew Peterson in Case of Missing Fourth Wife (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394424,00.html)

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Searching
You seem big on facts and links. Where is the fact or link

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I don't mind schooling you a little bit. :)

IMO is an acronym for In My Opinion.

If you need anymore help comprehending my posts feel free to ask.

It's always better to ask then it is to post in ignorance.

IMO. ;)

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Searching

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Where are the FACTS or LINKS that what was told to me is fiction.

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More schooling. I'm up for it. :)

It is my opinion that you are lying.

Hence the IMO in my original post. For information about IMO, please see my previous post. ;)

If you still have problems understanding, feel free to ask.

Or you can read the Terms Of Service here & all will be explained.

But... if you still have problems understanding after reading the TOS, ask again. But be sure to do so in a PM as this is getting way off topic. TIA.

I'm happy to help. ;)

IMO.

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Searching

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and call people names.

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I haven't called anyone any names. That would be against the Terms Of Service here.

Glad to see you read the Terms Of Service.

I'm confident you won't have any problems understanding other's posts from here on out. :)

kimmy56

07-30-2008, 03:24 PM

Well - it's good news that his gun conviction will proceed. I believe it was Aug. 28?

Maybe now DrewP will have other things to focus on rather than finding a young chick online. Although, come to think of it, that hasn't stopped him before!!!

watchu

07-30-2008, 03:57 PM

A Will County judge refused to throw out a gun charge against Drew Peterson on Wednesday.

Judge Richard Schoenstedt set a pretrial hearing for Aug. 28.

In May, Peterson was charged with felony use of an unlawful weapon—namely an assault rifle whose barrel was nearly 5 inches shorter than allowed by state law, according to authorities.

The charge carries a penalty of up to 5 years in prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson-gun-web-jul31,0,4593650.story

Anakerie

07-30-2008, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

Yep. Great news. Here's the updated article.

Judge Won't Dismiss Gun Charges Against Drew Peterson in Case of Missing Fourth Wife (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,394424,00.html) [/*]

That is excellent news. I've been out and about all day today and was curious what came of the hearing this morning. I would imagine that Mr. Brodsky is feeling rather frustrated this afternoon since his "prediction" of a dismissal of charges didn't happen.

not.another

07-30-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Searching
I have read the TOS and it's not even close to what you are saying. The FACT remains you can't answer the simple ?. Your only solution is to provide doudle speak gobble gook and call people names. I truly feel sorry for you. How sad. I'm sticking by what my relative said. If you don't like it that's too bad. [/*]

---------------
Is there a link for what your relative said?
Just asking.

mdlm

07-30-2008, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Searching
:shrug: What does all that nonsense have to with comparing different case and the selection of jurors. [/*]

I was addressing your: " prosecution has egg on their face"
comment.

...and will choose ignore you since you can't comprehend my posts.

...why waste time.

hammer

Anakerie

07-30-2008, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by mdlm

I was addressing your: " prosecution has egg on their face"
comment.

...and will choose ignore you since you can't comprehend my posts.

...why waste time.

hammer [/*]

Ignore is our best friend when we come across a poster who loves stirring things up. That particular poster is doing the same thing over on the Spector thread.. :rolleyes:

Nova

07-30-2008, 08:46 PM

... still waiting for the GJ to indict DP for Kathleen and Stacy's demise, that would truly be GREAT news!!!!
Thanks to all for posting updates ;)

mdlm

07-30-2008, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Ignore is our best friend when we come across a poster who loves stirring things up. That particular poster is doing the same thing over on the Spector thread.. :rolleyes: [/*]

The way I see it is 2567 respected and well thought out posts verses 71 ...not so much!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...doesn't mean I have to agree or be questioned by a poster who does clearly not comprehend my posts.

:beer:

imo and jmo and yada...

:seeya:

charm7

07-30-2008, 11:16 PM

Is not tomorrow the last day for the GJ?

Anakerie

07-30-2008, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by charm7
Is not tomorrow the last day for the GJ? [/*]

I believe that is what has been reported. Aug. 1st was a "deadline" for this GJ. I wonder if the time will be extended or if they have decided anything...

I do hope that a decision has been made and indictments will be handed down. Drew already has to face the gun charges according to the ruling today.

ETA: I only wish that Stacy had been found. All these months of her being missing. It's horrible to think about.

Land Shark®

07-30-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by charm7
Is not tomorrow the last day for the GJ?

You know... when this all started, the Grand Jury end date was in April of this year.

After April passed, it has been reported the Grand Jury end date will be in August.

I guess we'll find out soon.

no1what

07-31-2008, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by watchu
A Will County judge refused to throw out a gun charge against Drew Peterson on Wednesday.

Judge Richard Schoenstedt set a pretrial hearing for Aug. 28.

In May, Peterson was charged with felony use of an unlawful weapon—namely an assault rifle whose barrel was nearly 5 inches shorter than allowed by state law, according to authorities.

The charge carries a penalty of up to 5 years in prison.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson-gun-web-jul31,0,4593650.story [/*]

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Now what they need to do is to arrest him for interferring with an on going investigation due to the fact that he hid and sold that fold up gun after the police had served him with a search warrant to collect all guns. He should have turned it in to the police.

kimmy56

07-31-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by grammybear
It kind of looks like Drews days of getting away with everything is just about to an end. His days of bullying other people are about to come to an end. I feel so sorry for his kids. They are smack dab in the middle of all of this and Drew is the one who put him there. I sure wish we would find out some news on Stacy soon. There needs to be some sort of closure for her family and friends.

Hopefully with August 1st being here friday we will finally hear some news of an indictment coming down.

One more thought I had was that the fold up gun that Drew gave to his friends, could that have tried to be passed off to Len because it might have a connection with Stacy. Maybe that is why Drew did not want the boys to testify. Who knows?

jmoo [/*]

I was wondering that exact same thing.

Anakerie

07-31-2008, 04:10 PM

Transcript of Drew and Brodsky on Greta's show last night:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395461,00.html

charm7

07-31-2008, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Transcript of Drew and Brodsky on Greta's show last night:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395461,00.html [/*]

Last night on Greta were 2 lawyers for Drew. I found that very interesting:biggrin:

Land Shark®

07-31-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by charm7

Last night on Greta were 2 lawyers for Drew. I found that very interesting:biggrin:

I'm betting neither one of them will be his murder trial attorney.

Any takers? :)

Anakerie

07-31-2008, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by charm7

Last night on Greta were 2 lawyers for Drew. I found that very interesting:biggrin: [/*]

Whoops.. I forgot to mention the other lawyer Drew had with him, Andrew Abood.
:shrug:

Same old stories, different day. Everyone is lying except Drew. Everyone is crazy except Drew. And so on and so on, ad infinitum.

Snicker

07-31-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

I'm betting neither one of them will be his murder trial attorney.

Any takers? :) [/*]

No need to take that bet -- because we'd both win!
Maybe we should debate whether JB'll quit when DP's pension is revoked or DP will fire JB after he gets arrested since JB promised that would never happen! :biggrin:

How ya doin my friend? Haven't seen you since the Entwistle trial! Been working too much to pop in and say "HI!" :seeya:

Can't wait to see DP in new silver bracelets - everywhere he goes - to jail, to court, back to jail . . . can't wait to see his first perp walk, the ISP news conference that will follow, lots of charges against lots of people, no bail, and JB stuttering his butt off when the microphones are shoved in his face . . . coming soon to a television near you! Priceless!

Gotta run - hope to see you again soon!

Justice_Dawg

07-31-2008, 09:57 PM

The other attorney has been on the case for a long time. Nothing new.

February 11, 2008 - 10:46PM
OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT. AN EXCLUSIVE ONE.

JUST A FEW HOURS AGO ONE OF THE ATTORNEY

'S for DREW PETERSON FILED A MOTION...TO FIGHT BACK IN A CASE THATS MADE WORLDWIDE HEADLINES AND HAS EVEN STUMPED VETERAN DETECTIVES! OCTOBER 28TH...THE DATE DREW PETERSONS ATTORNEY SAYS HIS CLIENT LAST SAW STACY PETERSON ALIVE.

TONIGHT THEY'RE SAYING ENOUGHS ENOUGH..THEY WANT DREW PETERSONS SEIZED PERSONAL EFFECTS BACK..AND WANT THE CASE CLOSED!

"THE GOVERNMENT JUST CAN'T SEIZE PROPERTY AND NOT CHARGE HIM CRIMINALLY. THERE'S NO CIVIL ACTION OR QUOTE/ UNQUOTE INVESTIGATION", SAYS ANDREW ABOOD, PETERSON'S LAWYER.

http://www.wlaj.com/common/printer/view.php?db=wlaj&id=11061

charm7

08-01-2008, 07:22 AM

I would bet JB will quit Drew when he hears the tapes.
Drew probably slammed JB amd called him an idiot and more :shrug:

JMO

Anakerie

08-01-2008, 10:10 AM

Grand jury hears from ex-girlfriend of Drew Peterson's son
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson_01aug01,0,1583439.story

Justice_Dawg

08-01-2008, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Grand jury hears from ex-girlfriend of Drew Peterson's son
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson_01aug01,0,1583439.story [/*]
Why did the x-girlfriend hire a criminal defense attorney?

I am confused. :confused:

Justice_Dawg

08-01-2008, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by grammybear
I am not sure why she would have needed a criminal attorney unless she has somehow been involved with any of this, but otherwise I have no idea.

Has anybody heard anything about the grand jury being finished? I had thought that grand juries only meet for so long before they are disbanned and another jury is impaneled. So unless there is something to come down soon, I would think that the state would want to get indictments before they are disbanned.

jmoo [/*]It is taking way to long to suit me. :D

Land Shark®

08-01-2008, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg

Why did the x-girlfriend hire a criminal defense attorney?

I am confused. :confused:

:seeya:

Are you surprised?

I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone associated with Drew Peterson hired lawyers.

Especially the people appearing before the Grand Jury.

Land Shark®

08-01-2008, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Snicker

No need to take that bet -- because we'd both win!
Maybe we should debate whether JB'll quit when DP's pension is revoked or DP will fire JB after he gets arrested since JB promised that would never happen! :biggrin:

How ya doin my friend? Haven't seen you since the Entwistle trial! Been working too much to pop in and say "HI!" :stolen seeya:

Can't wait to see DP in new silver bracelets - everywhere he goes - to jail, to court, back to jail . . . can't wait to see his first perp walk, the ISP news conference that will follow, lots of charges against lots of people, no bail, and JB stuttering his butt off when the microphones are shoved in his face . . . coming soon to a television near you! Priceless!

Gotta run - hope to see you again soon!

Hey there pretty girl! Good to see you again. :)

I definitely believe Joel Brodsky won't be around for the murder trial.

I hate to type these next words but... Drew Peterson is too smart to keep that ignorant defense attorney for a murder trial.

I personally can't wait for the first comment out of Drew's mouth when he's taken on the perp walk. Along with the smirks he'll most likely be giving to the camera.

The reason I state the above.... I can't wait for it all to come crashing down around Drew. So seeing him smile in handcuffs is a fair trade off.

IMO.

I too hope to see you again soon Snicker! :seeya:

juliekan

08-02-2008, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by grammybear

It sounds like to me that Drew is afraid he might be arrested soon. It is awful funny to me that I have not read much about this other attorney and now he has filed a motion demanding all his guns and everything back. I also thought I read that Drew was driving Stacy's grand am when he had this lastest run in with Len. I also thought that the guns could not be given back to him because the police voidd his FOID card?

I gues the ISP is trying to sweat him out. Isn't today supposed to be the end of the grand jury hearings? Maybe that is parcel and post to why Drews attorney is making demands of the court.

I have a feeling that something is going to happen soon. I have not read hardly anything about Drew and his attorney since the information about the wire taps and the issue of the Ashley blog. It sure makes me wonder.
I also think that all this media fiasco since Stacy's disappearance was deliberately done to taint the jury pool.

jmoo [/*]

You have read all the signals right, I think. It's gotten quiet with DP and his attorney. There was a case in Texas years ago where 2 young girls were killed, and it seemed that it would become a cold case. But I had a friend in the PD that told me they had men working behind the scenes, keeping up with a person of interest. 1 1/2 years later, the guy confesses to them. Don't give up hope.

mdlm

08-02-2008, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by grammybear

I know me to. This jerk should have been arrested a long time ago. It cannot happen to soon.
I also have to wonder about the other son Eric who has had nothing to do with his father. I wonder if this has something to do with Kathleens murder. Who know man did awful things to his soms when they were growing up and this son cannot forgive him. I think I would stay as far away as possible if I was one of his children.

jmoo [/*]

The silence of Drews son Eric speaks volumes imo. To the best of my knowledge he has not been called before the GJ. No comments to the media, not a lot of questions asked on his falling out with Drew...he is so under the wire so to speak.

He's about the only person connected to Drew who is in this position and retained some sense of privacy...guess we have to wait and see.
I won't lie, I am curious!

imo and jmo and yada...

charm7

08-02-2008, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by mdlm

The silence of Drews son Eric speaks volumes imo. To the best of my knowledge he has not been called before the GJ. No comments to the media, not a lot of questions asked on his falling out with Drew...he is so under the wire so to speak.

He's about the only person connected to Drew who is in this position and retained some sense of privacy...guess we have to wait and see.
I won't lie, I am curious!

imo and jmo and yada... [/*]

I didn't know of the falling out. Eric is Kathleen's son right? Anyone know what happened?

tagalong

08-02-2008, 09:53 PM

Personally I feel without a doubt that DP killed his 3rd and 4th wife and robbed Kris and Tom of 2 mothers and little Anthony and Laci of a loving mother they will never know. YES! I'm ready to see him serve the time. I hurt for the children but DP cannot continue to murder and continue to get away with it. Lock him up and throw away the key is what I say. IMO

watchu

08-02-2008, 11:26 PM

Seeing a murderer get what he deserves is not 'entertainment', it's justice.....

mdlm

08-03-2008, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~

I think that again depends on how much "giddy-glee" there is involved, and the voyeuristic anticipation of watching "the perp walk", "the shackles", "the Press Conferences", etc. etc.

It's being cheered as an Entertainment spectacle, and I would think considering the fact that this is a murder case, perhaps 2 murders, people would be more reverent and less childlike. [/*]

It's not childlike, it's Karma...you get what you give. Drew may have and most likely has ( because hearsay is admissable in a public discussion forum) used his position of authority to agitate, stalk, control, abuse and in the end, murder the women in his life.

imo and jmo and yada....

:flamemad:

charm7

08-03-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~

I think that again depends on how much "giddy-glee" there is involved, and the voyeuristic anticipation of watching "the perp walk", "the shackles", "the Press Conferences", etc. etc.

It's being cheered as an Entertainment spectacle, and I would think considering the fact that this is a murder case, perhaps 2 murders, people would be more reverent and less childlike. [/*]

No one will cheer more then me when DP gets his comeuppence!
DP & JB are the ones who created a spectacle & talk about "reverent OMG DP could use some lessons.
My reverence is saved for Stacy & Kathleen!:biggrin:

charm7

08-03-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Searching
I believe it is referred to as internet/posting courage IMO. It seems popular to bash and criticize a defendant or his atty. when you don't have anything substantive concerning legal issues to offer. Emotions and view of a persons appearance seem to govern.JMO. Thank you for your sensible post.:patriot: [/*]

clearing throat
I hate to keep commenting on this but appearances don't govern , your right !
BUT making complete fools out of themselves on TV lends creedance to my opinion they make themselves spectacles.
I hope your higher moral ground of opinions don't just hold on this board.
Do you feel this way about Casey Anthony also or better yet the presidential candidates.
I would find it very difficult to hold myself to your standards when faced with the facts that Stacey is probably in some bluebarrel somewhere liquified by pool chemicals.

As to "substantive concerning legal issues" This is an opinion board not a legal board.

Nova

08-03-2008, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Searching
I believe it is referred to as internet/posting courage IMO. It seems popular to bash and criticize a defendant or his atty. when you don't have anything substantive concerning legal issues to offer. Emotions and view of a persons appearance seem to govern.JMO. Thank you for your sensible post.:patriot: [/*]
As Charm7 just posted before me ... this is not a board for "Legal Eagles" Only ... it's a message board for ALL to discuss and debate an array of topics.
I believe DPeterson is guilty of Kathleen's death and Stacy's disappearance. I believe this for a multitude of reasons, not just his inane, obscure, bizarre behavior.
Many of us posted and discussed all the reasons we felt that way for MONTHS.
I'm just waiting to see what the GJ is going to do.

Land Shark®

08-03-2008, 10:19 PM

Len & Paula & Sharon on Geraldo right now.

Claiming Drew went to Florida & left the children with relatives.

Len & Paula claim they haven't made any money regarding their wiretapping.

IMO.

Anakerie

08-03-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Len & Paula & Sharon on Geraldo right now.

Claiming Drew went to Florida & left the children with relatives.

Len & Paula claim they haven't made any money regarding their wiretapping.

IMO. [/*]

lol, I saw and heard that.. About Drew's vacation... He went with BRODSKY! NOT his kids... Oh my.. How cozy is that?

LMAO

(Running back to the living room before the commercials are over.. lol)

Land Shark®

08-03-2008, 10:26 PM

Len brings a letter to Santa Claus from one of Drew's children. Written when Kathleen was alive. Claims he got it from the Nancy Grace show.

He reads it: 'All I want for Christmas is for Daddy to stop hurting mommy.'

Paraphrased.

IMO.

Anakerie

08-03-2008, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Len brings a letter to Santa Claus from one of Drew's children. Written when Kathleen was alive. Claims he got it from the Nancy Grace show.

He reads it: 'All I want for Christmas is for Daddy to stop hurting mommy.'

Paraphrased.

IMO. [/*]

If that letter is authentic, that is so terribly sad for those boys. And so damning for Drew.

Nova

08-03-2008, 11:00 PM

So DP gets bond terms changed so he can take kids on vacation to FL, so he tells a judge ... BUT then DP leaves all four kids (2 with sister-in law and 2 at home with Mike R.) and he goes to Florida with Brodsky, what a pair, what a team :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Also it seems Steve's wife testified this week before the GJ. She lived with Steve at DP and Kathleen's house for a period of time.
Waiting and hoping patiently for the GJ to indict DP.
:rose: For Kathleen, Stacy and especially the kids (the ones DP left home, while he played bachelor in FL)

vagal

08-04-2008, 07:44 AM

I sure do hope to...I was ready to pick up the phone and do it myself....

charm7

08-04-2008, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by Nova
So DP gets bond terms changed so he can take kids on vacation to FL, so he tells a judge ... BUT then DP leaves all four kids (2 with sister-in law and 2 at home with Mike R.) and he goes to Florida with Brodsky, what a pair, what a team :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Also it seems Steve's wife testified this week before the GJ. She lived with Steve at DP and Kathleen's house for a period of time.
Waiting and hoping patiently for the GJ to indict DP.
:rose: For Kathleen, Stacy and especially the kids (the ones DP left home, while he played bachelor in FL) [/*]

I am pretty sure it was Steve's former g/f that was called, not his wife.
I may be wrong but I heard it on two different shows

mdlm

08-04-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by charm7

I am pretty sure it was Steve's former g/f that was called, not his wife.
I may be wrong but I heard it on two different shows [/*]

You are right. Her name is Jennifer Schoon and she is Steves ex- girlfriend. A few sites were discussing her choice of a criminal lawyer to accompany her to the GJ.

imo and jmo and yada...

Nova

08-04-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by charm7

I am pretty sure it was Steve's former g/f that was called, not his wife.
I may be wrong but I heard it on two different shows [/*]
You're right, I stand corrected.
The GJ sure has been meeting for a looooong time, but I guess that is the process. I'm just a tad bit impatient (not one of my better virtues).
:D

charm7

08-04-2008, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Searching
:shrug: Wonder why they named it "insessiontrials". Even more confusing IMO, "faced with the facts" "is probably". How does that work? :seeya: [/*]

I scrolled up this page and I see "In session message boards"
Enough already, this is bordering on childish and against the TOS.
Enjoy your day :biggrin:

Anakerie

08-04-2008, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Searching
:no: Wrong again. The site is "boards.insessiontrials". If you thought it "childish" why attack me originally. Your also wrong about TOS in my opinion. Enough said, you also have a nice day.;) [/*]

I have one request. Please, can we stop sniping at other posters and just post about the case?

So what do you think of Drew going on vacation in Florida with Brodsky and leaving the kids with sitters?

not.another

08-04-2008, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

I have one request. Please, can we stop sniping at other posters and just post about the case?

So what do you think of Drew going on vacation in Florida with Brodsky and leaving the kids with sitters? [/*]

---------------
It seems there could be an alterior motive with this vacation. Why would an attorney go on vacation with his client? It just doesn't make sense to me. Anybody else? They must be really good buds. I hope we don't have a sighting of them at Disney World. That would be very upsetting if his kids found out that he went without them. Why Florida? Is that where he really is?
IMO

charm7

08-04-2008, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie

I have one request. Please, can we stop sniping at other posters and just post about the case?

So what do you think of Drew going on vacation in Florida with Brodsky and leaving the kids with sitters? [/*]

I believe he broke the conditions the judge put down.

The judge ok'd the trip FOR THE KIDS.

I's lay money he will be in more trouble.

Snicker

08-05-2008, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by ~DaddysGirl~

Grammy, I'm not so sure about that.

Quoted from this thread -

"Can't wait to see DP in new silver bracelets - everywhere he goes - to jail, to court, back to jail . . . can't wait to see his first perp walk, the ISP news conference that will follow, lots of charges against lots of people, no bail, and JB stuttering his butt off when the microphones are shoved in his face . . . coming soon to a television near you! Priceless!"

I mean really, it just seems like a sick, demented form of voyeurism to take such "PRICELESS!" giddy-glee in something like this - something that children might be excited about, watching some other child suffer.

For me, I take absolutely no joy in that, and find it a most disturbing form of "entertainment". [/*]

Since my post, which you quoted above, seems to bother you so much, I'll respond.

Do I want to see DP in LE custody permanently? Absolutely!
Do I want to see him lead away in handcuffs? Absolutely!
Do I want an ISP news conference so we will finally know what evidence they have accumulated against DP and others? Absolutely!
Do I believe JB is a terrible, inept attorney? Absolutely!

Just so that you understand my post and do not misinterpret the EMOTIONS behind it, I'll clarify. I'm not a "voyeur" who will feel "giddy glee" when DP is finally arrested and tried for murder. I do not find DP entertaining in any way. I am simply a person who has followed this very disturbing case daily for more than nine months and will feel great RELIEF that a man I BELIEVE murdered two women and created a horrific legacy for his children to live with, will be made to stand trial and answer for his actions.

Even though you implied that I was making a mockery of the seriousness of this case - I, on the other hand, feel that Drew Peterson, Joel Brodsky, and Glenn Selig have made a complete mockery of the situation DP has put himself in.

I pray on a daily basis that KS and SP and their children receive justice; that Steve, Eric, Thomas, Kristopher, Anthony and Lacy will eventually be able to live healthy, productive lives despite all the tragedy and heartbreak they have been forced to live through; that SP's remains will be found so she can be laid to rest properly; that the family and friends of KS and SP will finally know what happened to their loved ones; and that once all the legal proceedings are completed, all DP's victims will be able to find some peace.

And finally, you defined "giddy glee" as "something that children might be excited about, watching some other child suffer." So you believe I am giddy about watching DP "suffer?" I find that ironic since I believe DP created the situation he finds himself in and has repeatedly displayed inappropriate "giddy glee" when being questioned about KS and SP. But that's just me, I tend to sympathize with the VICTIMS of crime, not the PERPETRATORS.

Anakerie

08-05-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Snicker

Since my post, which you quoted above, seems to bother you so much, I'll respond.

Do I want to see DP in LE custody permanently? Absolutely!
Do I want to see him lead away in handcuffs? Absolutely!
Do I want an ISP news conference so we will finally know what evidence they have accumulated against DP and others? Absolutely!
Do I believe JB is a terrible, inept attorney? Absolutely!

Just so that you understand my post and do not misinterpret the EMOTIONS behind it, I'll clarify. I'm not a "voyeur" who will feel "giddy glee" when DP is finally arrested and tried for murder. I do not find DP entertaining in any way. I am simply a person who has followed this very disturbing case daily for more than nine months and will feel great RELIEF that a man I BELIEVE murdered two women and created a horrific legacy for his children to live with, will be made to stand trial and answer for his actions.

Even though you implied that I was making a mockery of the seriousness of this case - I, on the other hand, feel that Drew Peterson, Joel Brodsky, and Glenn Selig have made a complete mockery of the situation DP has put himself in.

I pray on a daily basis that KS and SP and their children receive justice; that Steve, Eric, Thomas, Kristopher, Anthony and Lacy will eventually be able to live healthy, productive lives despite all the tragedy and heartbreak they have been forced to live through; that SP's remains will be found so she can be laid to rest properly; that the family and friends of KS and SP will finally know what happened to their loved ones; and that once all the legal proceedings are completed, all DP's victims will be able to find some peace.

And finally, you defined "giddy glee" as "something that children might be excited about, watching some other child suffer." So you believe I am giddy about watching DP "suffer?" I find that ironic since I believe DP created the situation he finds himself in and has repeatedly displayed inappropriate "giddy glee" when being questioned about KS and SP. But that's just me, I tend to sympathize with the VICTIMS of crime, not the PERPETRATORS. [/*]

Excellent post, Snicker.

Land Shark®

08-05-2008, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Anakerie

Excellent post, Snicker.

Most definitely. :)

Snicker

08-05-2008, 10:15 AM

Thanks Anakerie and Land Shark! ;) I always appreciate the comments and opinions you two post as well!

Gotta run for now. Keep the faith, Snick

not.another

08-05-2008, 03:08 PM

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/bolingbrook.storm.winds.2.788220.html

Tornado Leaves Houses In Tatters In Bolingbrook
Investigators Try To Determine Whether Tornado Touched Down

spiritwolf46

08-09-2008, 03:11 PM

charm7

08-09-2008, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by spiritwolf46

SUPERIOR POST Snicker!!!!!!! :beer: [/*]

Cheers!! :beer:

mdlm

08-10-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by charm7

Cheers!! :beer: [/*]

Great post Snicker...clapping here...clap, clap, clap...

:beer:

charm7

08-10-2008, 10:40 PM

Anyone have any info on the GJ? Are they not disbanded yet?

Jpanda

08-11-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by grammybear
I have not heard a word on the grand jury yet. I was also checking to see if anybody else has heard anything. Are they doing more searches for Stacy?

After reading all the above comments I have only one thought of the situation that Drew is in. He brought all this issue on due to the fact that he always had to be in control and know every step his wives have taken. He would not have problems with the LE if he was a decent guy that did not try to control all people around him to get what he wanted. In a way it reminds me of a spoiled two year old throwing a temper tantrum just to get their own way. As far as I have been able to discover he always had to have his own way and if he didn't then everybody would pay.

So yes I do believe Drew brought all of this on himself from his professional conduct to the way he treated family and relative.

jmoo [/*]

Good post.

Drew put himself in this situation when he murdered two people.

In my opinion, of course.

JMO

summer4meplz

08-12-2008, 03:23 PM

IMHO it's a good sign that there are no more witnesses it means they are deliberating and hopefully they are handing down multiple indictments...

Justice_Dawg

08-12-2008, 03:41 PM

Proposed law may give a new look to case of missing girl
Published: 8/11/2008 2:16 PM

State lawmakers on Friday sent to the governor's desk legislation that may affect the possible prosecution of murder suspects in cases such as that of Rachel, Stebic and Peterson in which authorities say they strongly suspect foul play but are limited by a lack of physical evidence without a body. [/*]

Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow pushed for the measure that would allow a judge at a pretrial hearing in a murder case to determine whether so-called hearsay evidence - testimony or documents that quote someone secondhand who is not in court - may be admitted at trial.

Prosecutors would have to prove in a pretrial hearing those statements are reliable and that the defendant's wrongdoing made the witness unavailable to testify. The legislation is less broad but similar to an earlier failed effort that grew after 16-year-old Erin Justice was killed in March 2004, less than a month after accusing her stepfather of raping her in Naperville. He now is on death row.

Glasgow is encouraging area police departments to review unsolved murder cases to see if the new proposal would apply.

Rachel Mellon's father, Jeff Skemp, said he long ago gave up hope that his hazel-eyed child is still alive. Still, he is buoyed by the legislation and hopes it may some day give him some measure of closure.

"To me," he said, "it would be a wonderful blessing if anything ever happened."

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=226896

summer4meplz

08-12-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg
Proposed law may give a new look to case of missing girl
Published: 8/11/2008 2:16 PM

State lawmakers on Friday sent to the governor's desk legislation that may affect the possible prosecution of murder suspects in cases such as that of Rachel, Stebic and Peterson in which authorities say they strongly suspect foul play but are limited by a lack of physical evidence without a body. [/*]

Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow pushed for the measure that would allow a judge at a pretrial hearing in a murder case to determine whether so-called hearsay evidence - testimony or documents that quote someone secondhand who is not in court - may be admitted at trial.

Prosecutors would have to prove in a pretrial hearing those statements are reliable and that the defendant's wrongdoing made the witness unavailable to testify. The legislation is less broad but similar to an earlier failed effort that grew after 16-year-old Erin Justice was killed in March 2004, less than a month after accusing her stepfather of raping her in Naperville. He now is on death row.

Glasgow is encouraging area police departments to review unsolved murder cases to see if the new proposal would apply.

Rachel Mellon's father, Jeff Skemp, said he long ago gave up hope that his hazel-eyed child is still alive. Still, he is buoyed by the legislation and hopes it may some day give him some measure of closure.

"To me," he said, "it would be a wonderful blessing if anything ever happened."

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=226896 [/*]

This might be another reason they are dragging their feet...they might be waiting for the passage of this bill.

Lincoln

08-13-2008, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by grammybear
So the grand jury is talking and trying to make a decison on whether there is enough to file charges or not? What a heavy load that must be since there is so much evidence and information to go through. I sure hope for the best for them. Stacy's family and friends are also in my prayers that they will finally see justice. I just cannot even imagine what they are going through. Not knowing where Stacy is and not being able to find her has got to be so hard. Also what about Kathleen? Her family has been waiting so long for the right information to be told about her death. How awful to suspect murder and nobody will listen. These two cases really break my heart.

jmoo [/*]

:rose:

Justice_Dawg

08-13-2008, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by summer4meplz

This might be another reason they are dragging their feet...they might be waiting for the passage of this bill. [/*]Makes me nervous.

Anakerie

08-18-2008, 12:14 PM

Pretty quiet here, isn't it? I wonder if Drew and Brodsky are back from their little vacation...

I found an interesting article this morning:
Questions abound over initial probe of Kathleen Savio's death
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-savio_18aug18,0,7919543.story

I also found a mention of the Grand Jury on the Search for Stacy Peterson blog dated 8/14, apparently the Grand Jury wasn't dismissed and they are still meeting and still questioning witnesses:
Grand Jury Update
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/grand-jury-update-3/

Land Shark®

08-18-2008, 12:25 PM

Thanks for the update Anakerie. :)

From the blog link:

Stacey's uncle Kyle Toutges said he testified for about an hour, during which investigators asked him where he thought his niece might be in light of her husband’s comments that she had left him for another man and is “where she wants to be.”

“The only other place she would want to be is in heaven with her sisters,” Toutges said. “If she was on this earth, she would want to be with her kids. That’s where she would be.”

Interesting.

north-eh

08-18-2008, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Anakerie
Pretty quiet here, isn't it? I wonder if Drew and Brodsky are back from their little vacation...

I found an interesting article this morning:
Questions abound over initial probe of Kathleen Savio's death
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-savio_18aug18,0,7919543.story

I also found a mention of the Grand Jury on the Search for Stacy Peterson blog dated 8/14, apparently the Grand Jury wasn't dismissed and they are still meeting and still questioning witnesses:
Grand Jury Update
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/grand-jury-update-3/ [/*]

Thank you Anakerie. :seeya:
I was hoping to hear of some news regarding this case, it indeed has been a while. Good to hear the GJ is still meeting and hopefully something will come down the pike soon.
BTW good to see you, hope you are enjoying your summer.
N

Anakerie

08-18-2008, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Land Shark®
Thanks for the update Anakerie. :)

From the blog link:

Stacey's uncle Kyle Toutges said he testified for about an hour, during which investigators asked him where he thought his niece might be in light of her husband’s comments that she had left him for another man and is “where she wants to be.”

“The only other place she would want to be is in heaven with her sisters,” Toutges said. “If she was on this earth, she would want to be with her kids. That’s where she would be.”

Interesting. [/*]

Very interesting, isn't it? It sort of goes along with what we've seen posted a number of times, both here and on the Stacy forums/blog... "She's where she wants to be."... I don't think that Drew's statement could have made it any clearer in light of what her Uncle told the GJ...

Anakerie

08-18-2008, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by north-eh

Thank you Anakerie. :seeya:
I was hoping to hear of some news regarding this case, it indeed has been a while. Good to hear the GJ is still meeting and hopefully something will come down the pike soon.
BTW good to see you, hope you are enjoying your summer.
N [/*]

I keep doing searches on Drew and most of the time come up empty. This morning was an exception though. Two items of interest for a change. I hope something happens soon too...

It's good to see you too, north... I've mostly been lurking here on insession lately. Occasional posts on the Caylee Anthony threads, but most of my efforts have gone to my blog and the other blog I was invited to post on about the fires here in Calif... Summer is hot.. I am ready for cooler weather.. lol

I hope you're enjoying your summer!