Michelle Marie Young 6/12/08

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


She was into some things that could have led to needing money. Habits are expensive and she was only waiting tables. I don't think who ever killed Michelle went to the house to kill her. I think and have always thought she was killed because she made someone so mad that they hit her with something ,then it was to late to turn back. I think a lot of the rage that we see in the autopsy report was because the person blamed Michelle for what they had done. This past winter a daughter and her boy friend killed her mother and father and waited at the house for her sister and her family to arrive and killed the sister ,her husband and their two children. There are evil women in this world not just men. This woman that did this was tired of her mother and father always taking her sisters part in any argument they had. Not much of an excuse to wipe a family out is it. [/*]

How do you know what Meredith was "into" in Nov 06 or whether or not she had a "habit"? I don't think you do know.

As for waiting tables, in a nice restaurant, that means making more money than most nurses, teachers and bank tellers, ime.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


~snipped~

I don't think who ever killed Michelle went to the house to kill her. I think and have always thought she was killed because she made someone so mad that they hit her with something ,then it was to late to turn back. I think a lot of the rage that we see in the autopsy report was because the person blamed Michelle for what they had done.

~snipped~

[/*]

You realize, don't you, that this could very easily apply to Jason?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by oakayfine


I remember it being written up on the WRAL site with the witness A & *. Many then speculated that the witnesses A & * HAD to be Michelle's mother and sister.
WRAL original links all come up with "page not found" so I am assuming those articles have been archived. I'm too cheap to pay for the articles so I guess it's a moot point. [/*]There was nothing said by Witness A or * in the SW about Jason paying for the Cali trip.

“I had previously interviewed two witnesses. I am identifying one here as Witness A who had described how ‘Michelle was very, very pissed off’ about a trip made by Jason Young to California in 2006….Witness A was interviewed on December 21, 2006.

I also previously interviewed Witness *. This person described how Michelle was stressing over money and things Jason would go out and do. This witness gave me as an example some details about a trip to California….Witness * is the younger of the two persons I spoke with on the interview date November 29, 2006.

http://tinyurl.com/5l8rvo

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


I remember it being written up on the WRAL site with the witness A & *. Many then speculated that the witnesses A & * HAD to be Michelle's mother and sister.
WRAL original links all come up with "page not found" so I am assuming those articles have been archived. I'm too cheap to pay for the articles so I guess it's a moot point. [/*]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1201054/

"A slain Wake County mother found dead in her home late last year was upset over a trip her husband had taken to California, according to a search warrant made public Monday."

"Another person -- identified as "Witness *" -- told investigators about the California trip, although the detective did not specify those details in the affidavit. The witness said Michelle Young was also "stressing about money and things Jason would go out and do."

[jerzeegirl]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Guns aren't easy for some people. Especially typically law-abiding types. To get one legally would leave a paper trail. To get one illegally would mean dealing with some people not so pleasant. That's one reason I don't think this was about drugs or robbery. Those types would have guns.

I think the murder weapon was something nearby, too. But what?

JMO [/*]


wow i never thought of this cardinal, a typical robber or rapist about to break into someones house with the chance that not only someone could be home but that someone could come home unexpectedly, would carry some kind of weapon with them. Geez thats a very good point. A knife, gun, etc.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by june1943


It was posted by Kim Young and I see no reason for her to lie. LE could very easily verify this as they were in the house for 13 days before Kim Young went there. Maybe LE took the jewelry and just never told the Youngs? They took Mrs. young's meds when she got to Raleigh. Boy were they ever lucky she didn't die from the lack of her meds . Talk about a law suit. They even took her wallet. Guess they thought she had beaten Michelle to death with it. The fact that LE took her meds and wallet just shows how badly they treated Jason and his family. 19 months and no arrest I think LE screwed up big time that night. Wonder if they wished they hadn't listened to the vile things that was said while the Youngs were on their way? They wanted to inconvenience the Youngs every way they could no money LE took it all. No car LE took it. No clothes LE took them. Wonderful LE there in Wake county very compassionate. Did you notice from the pictures of the lady bug show how they were acting. Wonder how long LE's noses were brown after that event.

Heres the link
http://youngtragedy.blogspot.com/2007/02/ford-explorer.html [/*]

How do you know for a fact that the person posting about the jewelry drawers was Kim Young? Personally, I can see a lot of reasons for her to not be honest "if" her brother was, in fact, the murderer. She would want to protect him and would say anything she could to keep in the the "clear" and defend him.

I'm not sure what you mean by this statement "Wonder if they wished they hadn't listened to the vile things that was said while the Youngs were on their way?". Who said what vile things and how do you know what was said or if it was vile or not? This is the first post I've read about session having taken place.

The way that the Youngs were treated is again very open for debate as I beleive this scenario was posted by this same poster. I wasn't there so I have no idea how they were treated. I do know that sometimes people will exaggerate to help bring across a point they wish to make.

Are you saying that LE should not have attended the lady bug event and if so, why not? They were showing a lot of compassion which you were complaining about in your post that they were lacking.

JMO

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by alter ego
There was nothing said by Witness A or * in the SW about Jason paying for the Cali trip.

“I had previously interviewed two witnesses. I am identifying one here as Witness A who had described how ‘Michelle was very, very pissed off’ about a trip made by Jason Young to California in 2006….Witness A was interviewed on December 21, 2006.

I also previously interviewed Witness *. This person described how Michelle was stressing over money and things Jason would go out and do. This witness gave me as an example some details about a trip to California….Witness * is the younger of the two persons I spoke with on the interview date November 29, 2006.

http://tinyurl.com/5l8rvo [/*]

That is not the WRAL story I was referring to. I may very well be wrong but that is where I thought I had read that.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by jerzeegirl



wow i never thought of this cardinal, a typical robber or rapist about to break into someones house with the chance that not only someone could be home but that someone could come home unexpectedly, would carry some kind of weapon with them. Geez thats a very good point. A knife, gun, etc. [/*]

Hi Jerzee :seeya:

I don't recall a case whether the perpetrator was a stranger and the motive was robbery or rape and there was neither a knife nor a gun, do you?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1201054/

"A slain Wake County mother found dead in her home late last year was upset over a trip her husband had taken to California, according to a search warrant made public Monday."

"Another person -- identified as "Witness *" -- told investigators about the California trip, although the detective did not specify those details in the affidavit. The witness said Michelle Young was also "stressing about money and things Jason would go out and do." [/*]

Thanks Cardinal.

That's where I thought I had read that Jason had paid for the trip so I do stand corrected. Therefore, it must have been posted on the boards and should be taken as rumor, not fact.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


Thanks Cardinal.

That's where I thought I had read that Jason had paid for the trip so I do stand corrected. Therefore, it must have been posted on the boards and should be taken as rumor, not fact. [/*]

You're welcome. I think there was an inference drawn from this (by many) that Jason paid for the trip, but I've never seen it documented.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


The my space was currant that we had excess to in the weeks following the murder. That was where we read about her habit. She still has the site she just made it private. Sometimes nurses, teachers and bank tellers don't made enough for a really bad habit. [/*]

Meredith said on her myspace page that she has a "habit"?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by june1943


The my space was currant that we had excess to in the weeks following the murder. That was where we read about her habit. She still has the site she just made it private. Sometimes nurses, teachers and bank tellers don't made enough for a really bad habit. [/*]

She never stated on that MY SPACE page that she had any type of "expensive" habit. There was a survey she answered which contained a question "have you ever been high" and she answered yes.

Being high can mean "high" from anything, even alcohol.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


Cardinal, it could be Jason ,it could be MF , it could be someone from NY Michelle had been there for 2 weeks . It could be a neighbor ,it could be a co worker. The list could go on and on. I don't know who killed Michelle if I did I would be the first to tell LE, [/*]

I don't know who killed Michelle either, June. That's the reason I try very hard to discuss facts instead of rumor.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


She never stated on that MY SPACE page that she had any type of "expensive" habit. There was a survey she answered which contained a question "have you ever been high" and she answered yes.

Being high can mean "high" from anything, even alcohol. [/*]

Are you saying that Meredith having answered "yes" to that question is the reason people think she has a "habit"?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


~snipped~

I think it was very unprofessional for them to attend the affair . I think it was all for show. it showed alright ,it showed how unprofessional they are. [/*]

You think it was unprofessional of LE to attend a memorial for Michelle?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Are you saying that Meredith having answered "yes" to that question is the reason people think she has a "habit"? [/*]

Yes, I am refuting June's insinuation that Meredith had or has a "habit". She never stated that on her my space page but many here twisted the answer on that survey to mean that she did, indeed, have a habit.

Those surveys are sent to everyone with a my space page. Some choose to answer the questions and others ignore them. Meredith made the unkowingly fatal mistake of answering the questions for them to be twisted the way they were here.

I don't know Meredith but I don't think she has or had a habit. If she did, then she functioned quite well with that habit as Jason & MIchelle had no problem allowing her to babysit Cassidy. She had no problem holding down her waitress job. She must have been somewhat reliable or she would not have had the job.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


Yes, I am refuting June's insinuation that Meredith had or has a "habit". She never stated that on her my space page but many here twisted the answer on that survey to mean that she did, indeed, have a habit.

Those surveys are sent to everyone with a my space page. Some choose to answer the questions and others ignore them. Meredith made the unkowingly fatal mistake of answering the questions for them to be twisted the way they were here.

I don't know Meredith but I don't think she has or had a habit. If she did, then she functioned quite well with that habit as Jason & MIchelle had no problem allowing her to babysit Cassidy. She had no problem holding down her waitress job. She must have been somewhat reliable or she would not have had the job. [/*]

So, Meredith responded to a survey that she had been "high", and that has been turned into a "habit" and stretched into a "need for money" and twisted into a motive for murder? I think I have it now.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by june1943


Jason and Michelle stopped using her as a baby sitter. they drew up wills leaving Cassie in the care of Jason's sister should they both be killed. They covered ever base to make sure that MF and LF didn't get their hands on Cassie. IMO [/*]

Have you seen the wills? Or is this just more rumor?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by june1943


I know about the vile things that were said because a friend of Jason's called him and advised him to get an attorney . It may be the first post you have read today about that fact but it has been talked about a lot of times.
I showed you the search warrant of the things they took from the Youngs do you still doubt about how they were treated? Tell me what part of Mrs. Youngs meds played into Michelles death? Tell me what part their wallets played into Michelles death. What part do you think the search warrant exaggerated. If there is any exaggerating LE did it. Tell me why after 19 months LE hasn't returned the luggage. RPD says it is evidence. Evidence of what , that they wear clothes?
I think it was very unprofessional for them to attend the affair . I think it was all for show. it showed alright ,it showed how unprofessional they are. [/*]

I have no idea why LE took what they took from the Youngs on that evening. Whatever they took, they had their reasons. All of them travelled down together and "could" have hidden things in other's belongings. I am not saying this is why they took these things so please do not attempt to twist this post. I really don't think that LE purposefully tried to inconvenience anyone. I think they followed protocol. The reason I believe this to be the case is because I really don't think they would open themselves up for a lawsuit. What they took that night was apparantly within reason and legal for them to do. IMO

I don't think the SW's exaggerated anything nor did I imply that in my post. I do think that the person posting how the Youngs were treated that night did exaggerate.

What RPD says is what RPD says. I did not say it so why are you asking me? I would surmise that after 19 months that it very well could be evidence of some sort.
Why don't the Youngs ask for their belongings back? If it were my things, I would have certainly asked for them back; especially if I felt there was no reason for them to keep what legally belongs to me.

I think that LE attending the lady bug memorial was a wonderful show of support and compassion for the Fisher's. It really showed the human side of LE which many of us often forget about the fact that they too, are human.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by june1943


Jason and Michelle stopped using her as a baby sitter. they drew up wills leaving Cassie in the care of Jason's sister should they both be killed. They covered ever base to make sure that MF and LF didn't get their hands on Cassie. IMO [/*]

Wait a second. Are you really saying that the reason Jason and Michelle drew up their wills was to insure that MF and LF would not get their hands on Cassidy?
I find this extremely hard to believe given the fact that Michelle was so close to her family from everything I have read about them. Please tell me why you think Michelle would have done something as horrible as this?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Hi Jerzee :seeya:

I don't recall a case whether the perpetrator was a stranger and the motive was robbery or rape and there was neither a knife nor a gun, do you? [/*]

Yes, many times.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Please post a link that proves Jason paid for his families trip or QUIT post it. This is nothing but a old rumor.Into the BS file.

~snipped~

[/*]

And the same should apply to the old rumors about jewelry drawers, wills, and several other things, IMO.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Please post a link that proves Jason paid for his families trip or QUIT post it. This is nothing but a old rumor.Into the BS file.
NO where is it spoken or written that Auntie was going to pay for Michelle`s trip to ITALY.
ALL BS,deal with the fact that Jason and Michelle were not having financial problems. I am sure LE has by now realized it was total BS that Michelle was mad because Jason paid for his families trip. If she was mad it was because she made the choice to use her time to spend another week in NY. [/*]

I have already admitted my wrong about Jason paying for his family to go to California and that it is only rumor at this point.
Nohwere is it spoken or written that Auntie was NOT going to pay for Michelle's trip to Italy. I merely suggested that this is a possiblity and that is all that should be inferred from that.

I will not "deal with the fact that Jason and Michelle were not having financial problems." because I have seen no "facts" to support the allegations one way or another. I have seen SW's alluding to this and until it is proven that they were not in financial trouble, I will choose to believe what I want.

I will not allow you to dictate to me what I should or should not believe nor would I expect you to allow me to do the same to you.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


And the same should apply to the old rumors about jewelry drawers, wills, and several other things, IMO. [/*]

Thank You. I forgot to address that portion in my reply.
It really isn't important though as all that is left to post here for the time being is rumors.
LE are not talking, Jason is not talking so what are we left with? She said he said or he sadi she said.

I guess we can just continue to post and debunk rumors.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


Thank You. I forgot to address that portion in my reply.
It really isn't important though as all that is left to post here for the time being is rumors.
LE are not talking, Jason is not talking so what are we left with? She said he said or he sadi she said.

I guess we can just continue to post and debunk rumors. [/*]

I really don't have a problem with rumors, as long as they're clearly identified as such AND as long as the same rules apply all around. I do have a problem with rumors being stated as fact, with or without links.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
That was a very good decision,I am sure Michelle knew her sister a lot better then anyone posting on this board. I have no doubt she loved her mother but she also knew that Meredith would always be close by or with her mom because she needs her support money. This way a legal way to prevent Meredith from being on the receiving end should something happen to her and Jason. VERY smart move [/*]

What decision? What wills?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
There may have been. LE would never give out that information. [/*]

There were no knife or gunshot wounds mentioned on the autopsy report.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


What decision? What wills? [/*]

And what "support money"?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


And what "support money"? [/*]

Thanks. I forgot that one.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
The will that were confiscated in the SW. [/*]

Have you seen the contents of the will?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
The will that were confiscated in the SW. [/*]

So you read this will that was confiscated and know what was in it?
ETA
Please ignore as Cardinal has already asked.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
You can love someone and not approve of their life style and Meredith on words she used drugs. Need that link again.
She would never want her daughter raised around her sister.MOO [/*]

I haven't seen a link to Meredith admitting drug use. I've seen the word "high", and while that inference may be drawn, those are not Meredith's words. They are yours.

JMO

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by janesdean


I notice that every so often, you make this claim against Meredith, I would like to see a link. If you can't produce a link, kindly stop posting such libelous fabrications. And why is it that you people don't have a good thing to say about the poster you named in your post, yet, you turn right around and use them as your information source. Either you think that poster is credible or you don't. Stop jumpiing back and forth on your opinions. thanks JMO [/*]

You are right. I was asked about something this same poster claimed a little while ago. I'm not sure why he was even brought in to the post except as a feeble attempt to ridicule him/her. JMO

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by janesdean


Another attempt (poor one) to rewrite history, but facts are facts. What happened to the "good" posters is they were baited by posters who still remain on this board and made the choice to respond. The baiters then ran, whining to the moderator and the "good" posters were banned. Unfair ? I think so. And the rest of the "good' posters left in disgust, due to the constant bashing of the victims sister This is JMO, of course. :biggrin: [/*]

You only get banned for nasty posts and not following the rules here of TOS. Get your facts straight. :no:

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
I think they were playing the Fishers like a violin. [/*]

If that's true, then it was quite professional of them to attend, was it not?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Does not mean they did NOT have one with them. [/*]

No, but I'd find it rather strange if they had either a knife or a gun and chose to beat someone to death rather than use them, wouldn't you?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
No so I will add IMO [/*]

Thank you. So then you don't know who Jason and Michelle named as Cassidy's guardian, or if that provision were even included in the will, do you?

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
You can love someone and not approve of their life style and Meredith on words she used drugs. Need that link again.
She would never want her daughter raised around her sister.MOO [/*]

Yes, I do need that link again. She never stated she had a "habit" on her MY SPACE page, It was a questionaire sent to all My Space Account holders and she answered "yes' to the question "have you ever been high".


Or are you saying you have a link to Michelle not wanting her daughter raised around her sister? I'd love to see that link.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE

These are Meregith`s words.

http://mixie118.livejournal.com/

2:27 am Woo-hoo! My first journal entry....Well I'm on the downward spiral of coming down from a high...so I'm a little sleepy! There's nothing I hate more than being sick....except for being sick for 2 weeks (and maybe cheap people) So I'm a little cranky, a little high and a little sleepy....all that, means i should go to bed and end my only day off from work this week.....Be back soon!
Meredith [/*]

I've seen that posted here many times. (Why, I'm not sure.)

Where is the word "drugs"?

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE

These are Meregith`s words.

http://mixie118.livejournal.com/

2:27 am Woo-hoo! My first journal entry....Well I'm on the downward spiral of coming down from a high...so I'm a little sleepy! There's nothing I hate more than being sick....except for being sick for 2 weeks (and maybe cheap people) So I'm a little cranky, a little high and a little sleepy....all that, means i should go to bed and end my only day off from work this week.....Be back soon!
Meredith [/*]

So what? I'm a little high today too. My youngest granddaughter is coming over to my house today for the first time. She was born on April 3rd but her due date isn't until the 25th of this month. She came home from the hospital Memorial Weekend. She has been completely off of oxygen since Wednesday morning at 9 a.m.
So yeah, you bet I'm a little high!!!!:beer:

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Barbara2


So what? I'm a little high today too. My youngest granddaughter is coming over to my house today for the first time. She was born on April 3rd but her due date isn't until the 25th of this month. She came home from the hospital Memorial Weekend. She has been completely off of oxygen since Wednesday morning at 9 a.m.
So yeah, you bet I'm a little high!!!!:beer: [/*]

That's awesome, Barbara! How wonderful for your family.

Sorry for the o/t, but that's special.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Use your common sense,I am sure you have someeeeeee. [/*]

Oh, I think I have some common sense. So, you're asking me to draw the inference that Meredith's use of the word "high" indicates drug use on her part?

Am I also allowed to use my common sense and draw the inference from Major Johnson's statement (linked above) that Jason and Michelle Money were having an affair?

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
By the way I was ask for it. [/*]

What does this mean? You aren't high right now, are you? That sentence made no sense, common or otherwise.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Congratulation on your granddaughter. Hope she is healthy and stays healthy.:rose:
Now your high is a natural high you don`t mention being on a downward spiral from being high.
I have a question,serious, If you read these same words in your daughter /son diary or internet posting what conclusion would you draw? [/*]

I honestly would not expect the worst. Of course, that comes from knowing my child. I would know if my child had a drug issue. Those who know Meredith have stated emphatically that she is not a drug user.

I can't talk about coming down from the high because that hasn't happened yet. Maybe I can talk about that tomorrow morning when I have to get out of bed before I want to.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
If you would like,IMO if it was proved an affair,the Major would have been glad to note it for the public, Even the Sheriff refused to use the word affair. [/*]

I haven't seen much proof of anything involved in this case. I haven't seen any proof of Meredith's drug use and I haven't seen any proof of an affair.

If it's acceptable, however, to infer drug use from ONE years-old internet posting, then I think it's acceptable to infer an affair from LE's MANY references to the relationship between Jason and Michelle Money.

JMO

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
If you would like,IMO if it was proved an affair,the Major would have been glad to note it for the public, Even the Sheriff refused to use the word affair. [/*]

I disagree. I don't believe the major or the sheriff feel it is their duty to inform the public of an affair involving the husband of a murder victim. I don't think they would find it necessary to share that information.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Read very carefully, Someone just stated they did not know why my link was posted and I replied because someone ask for a link that she had wrote about being high. If this does not help,sorry.
BBL. [/*]

Ahhh. Thank you. You meant, "By the way, I was asked for it." Your statement made it seem like their was some relevance in the manner in which you were asked a question. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
This was posted and discussed many times but all the info has been deleted from CTV as so much information was.hammer [/*]

There were a number of rumors and innuendo posted about this topic but facts were not discussed. That's a misrepresentation of the discussions.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Barbara2


There were a number of rumors and innuendo posted about this topic but facts were not discussed. That's a misrepresentation of the discussions. [/*]

IMHO, one of the problems in discussing this case is that so much rumor and innuendo has been accepted as fact.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


How do you know what Meredith was "into" in Nov 06 or whether or not she had a "habit"? I don't think you do know.

As for waiting tables, in a nice restaurant, that means making more money than most nurses, teachers and bank tellers, ime. [/*]

Posters don't know that Jason and Michelle Money had a romantic relationship but they've certainly formed an opinion about it. Posters don't know that Meredith had a drug habit but it's easy to form an opinion based on her own comments.

Meredith certainly didn't hide the fact she used drugs. If she was a licensed nurse and made such an admission, she'd lose her license so it's hardly fair to compare a person who holds a job of waiting tables to someone who holds a professional license.
I also don't know too many restaurants that pay the benefits the professions of nursing and teachers pay and restaurants certainly don't guarantee tips. jmo

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by janesdean
Hey Cardinal, Barbara2, OakeyFine nice seeing you guys here today, gotta go join my daughters and help the daddy in our house celebrate. [/*]

Happy Father's Day to him. :seeya:

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Posters don't know that Jason and Michelle Money had a romantic relationship but they've certainly formed an opinion about it. Posters don't know that Meredith had a drug habit but it's easy to form an opinion based on her own comments.

Meredith certainly didn't hide the fact she used drugs. If she was a licensed nurse and made such an admission, she'd lose her license so it's hardly fair to compare a person who holds a job of waiting tables to someone who holds a professional license.
I also don't know too many restaurants that pay the benefits the professions of nursing and teachers pay and restaurants certainly don't guarantee tips. jmo [/*]

And the point I was making to Hi-Cycle is that both the drug use and the affair are inferences drawn from stated information. If one can be discussed, it should be acceptable to discuss the other.

My point to June was about the relative income of the jobs, not the relative risks of an admission of drug use. As for benefits, they can't be expended for recreational purposes, so they wouldn't factor into my comparison.

JMO

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Posters don't know that Jason and Michelle Money had a romantic relationship but they've certainly formed an opinion about it. Posters don't know that Meredith had a drug habit but it's easy to form an opinion based on her own comments.

Meredith certainly didn't hide the fact she used drugs. If she was a licensed nurse and made such an admission, she'd lose her license so it's hardly fair to compare a person who holds a job of waiting tables to someone who holds a professional license.
I also don't know too many restaurants that pay the benefits the professions of nursing and teachers pay and restaurants certainly don't guarantee tips. jmo [/*]

I have a professional license and I admitted to being high today. Do you think they are going to yank my license? :lol:

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Barbara2


I have a professional license and I admitted to being high today. Do you think they are going to yank my license? :lol: [/*]

:biggrin:

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Does not mean they did NOT have one with them. [/*]

ITA, that's possible. Michelle maybe knocked it out of the killer's hand. It's certainly not a detail LE would disclose to the public.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Barbara2


I have a professional license and I admitted to being high today. Do you think they are going to yank my license? :lol: [/*]

I don't believe you have any professional license to yank.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


I don't believe you have any professional license to yank. [/*]

Why would she lie about it? Oh - do you think people make up credentials or expertise to give themselves false credibility on message boards?

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I haven't seen much proof of anything involved in this case. I haven't seen any proof of Meredith's drug use and I haven't seen any proof of an affair.

If it's acceptable, however, to infer drug use from ONE years-old internet posting, then I think it's acceptable to infer an affair from LE's MANY references to the relationship between Jason and Michelle Money.

JMO [/*]

there was more than one "years old" posting by Meredith about her drug use. Her current myspace profile also was linked. If you don't choose to believe it, that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that opinions were formed by posters based on Meredith's own words, not the vague word "relationship" contained in a search warrant written by someone other than Jason Young.

jmo

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


I don't believe you have any professional license to yank. [/*]

Just one more thing for you to be wrong about then.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Why would she lie about it? Oh - do you think people make up credentials or expertise to give themselves false credibility on message boards? [/*]

Wouldn't be the first time. Posters can claim to be whatever they want. Doesn't mean other posters believe it.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


there was more than one "years old" posting by Meredith about her drug use. Her current myspace profile also was linked. If you don't choose to believe it, that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that opinions were formed by posters based on Meredith's own words, not the vague word "relationship" contained in a search warrant written by someone other than Jason Young.

jmo [/*]

As I understand it from posts earlier today, the myspace profile didn't contain the word "drugs" either. In both cases, an inference has been drawn from her use of the word "high".

Drawing the inference of an affair from repeated references by LE to a relationship is no different, imo. I have seen no reports of Jason's relationships with any other women, nor have I seen documentation of SWs executed at any other female friend's home. My inference is that the relationship with Michelle Money was an affair.

JMO

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


As I understand it from posts earlier today, the myspace profile didn't contain the word "drugs" either. In both cases, an inference has been drawn from her use of the word "high".

Drawing the inference of an affair from repeated references by LE to a relationship is no different, imo. I have seen no reports of Jason's relationships with any other women, nor have I seen documentation of SWs executed at any other female friend's home. My inference is that the relationship with Michelle Money was an affair.

JMO [/*]

Feel free to infer it. Others have inferred it. Doesn't make it true. LE has never again mentioned it. Neither Jason nor Michelle Money have publicly admitted that it was a romantic affair.

I saw Meredith's profile myself. Her own words. I'm not depending on second-hand recollections of posters here as you seem to be doing.

[meltdown]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Feel free to infer it. Others have inferred it. Doesn't make it true. LE has never again mentioned it. Neither Jason nor Michelle Money have publicly admitted that it was a romantic affair.

I saw Meredith's profile myself. Her own words. I'm not depending on second-hand recollections of posters here as you seem to be doing. [/*]


Do ya really think they would come out and admit to an affair:shrug: When they were both married at the time.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Feel free to infer it. Others have inferred it. Doesn't make it true. LE has never again mentioned it. Neither Jason nor Michelle Money have publicly admitted that it was a romantic affair.

I saw Meredith's profile myself. Her own words. I'm not depending on second-hand recollections of posters here as you seem to be doing. [/*]

Thank you, I will.

And I believe I stated quite clearly what I was basing my inference upon. I mentioned nothing about other posters' recollections, nor do they factor into my opinion.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by meltdown



Do ya really think they would come out and admit to an affair:shrug: When they were both married at the time. [/*]

Being married shouldn't affect Michelle Money's ability to tell the truth. Apparently she freely admitted they had daily communication.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Thank you, I will.

And I believe I stated quite clearly what I was basing my inference upon. I mentioned nothing about other posters' recollections, nor do they factor into my opinion. [/*]

You mentioned other posters recollections to the myspace posting. I saw the myspace profile. I know what words it contained.

CARDINAL SAID: "As I understand it from posts earlier today, the myspace profile didn't contain the word "drugs" either."

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Being married shouldn't affect Michelle Money's ability to tell the truth. Apparently she freely admitted they had daily communication. [/*]

Another reason for my inference.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Another reason for my inference. [/*]

You infer a romantic affair from daily communication? Wow. That's quite a leap, considering they lived hundreds of miles apart. Cops certainly didn't infer a romantic relationship from that fact alone. MM's admission to daily contact is given as the reason why they wanted to obtain the search warrant for their communication devices. No mention that MM admitted to a romantic affair. Not a word from LE since then. LE returned the search warrant AND refused to characterize it as a romantic affair. Certainly no further portrayal of Michelle Money as a motive for murder or as a participant to the crime.

Nonetheless, feel free to infer away on gossip if it makes you feel better. I prefer to stick to information I know to be true, such as myspace profiles.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


You infer a romantic affair from daily communication? Wow. That's quite a leap, considering they lived hundreds of miles apart. Cops certainly didn't infer a romantic relationship from that fact alone. MM's admission to daily contact is given as the reason why they wanted to obtain the search warrant for their communication devices. No mention that MM admitted to a romantic affair. Not a word from LE since then. LE returned the search warrant AND refused to characterize it as a romantic affair. Certainly no further portrayal of Michelle Money as a motive for murder or as a participant to the crime.

Nonetheless, feel free to infer away on gossip if it makes you feel better. I prefer to stick to information I know to be true, such as myspace profiles. [/*]

You know myspace profiles to be true??? LOL Of course, no one EVER lies on those!

I never said I inferred an affair from daily communication. If you will read carefully, I stated that was another reason for my inference. Added to the existence of the SW for her home, the fact that there have been no reports of Jason's communications with other women and Major Johnson's statement to the media.

I've never thought, however, that Michelle Money was either a participant in the crime or a motive for the murder.

JMO

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


You know myspace profiles to be true??? LOL Of course, no one EVER lies on those!

I never said I inferred an affair from daily communication. If you will read carefully, I stated that was another reason for my inference. Added to the existence of the SW for her home, the fact that there have been no reports of Jason's communications with other women and Major Johnson's statement to the media.

I've never thought, however, that Michelle Money was either a participant in the crime or a motive for the murder.

JMO [/*]

Most poster's here are following and understanding your posts just fine. There are some who are here for the sole purpose of arguing as I am sure you are well aware.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


Most poster's here are following and understanding your posts just fine. There are some who are here for the sole purpose of arguing as I am sure you are well aware. [/*]

Thank you. I try to post clearly. I'm glad to know others understand what I'm saying.

:)

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Thank you. I try to post clearly. I'm glad to know others understand what I'm saying.

:) [/*]

I do as well but sometimes posts get twisted. Many of mine have. I know you are a "fence sitter" and I am not but I do try to be fair with what I do post and will admit to mistakes when I make them.
Your posts always do make me think and that is always good yet you do not attack (which is good too!).

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


You mentioned other posters recollections to the myspace posting. I saw the myspace profile. I know what words it contained.

CARDINAL SAID: "As I understand it from posts earlier today, the myspace profile didn't contain the word "drugs" either." [/*]

I also saw the myspace page. My recollection is quite different from yours. Why should Cardinal believe your recollection to be any better than someone elses?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


I do as well but sometimes posts get twisted. Many of mine have. I know you are a "fence sitter" and I am not but I do try to be fair with what I do post and will admit to mistakes when I make them.
Your posts always do make me think and that is always good yet you do not attack (which is good too!). [/*]

Thank you. Yes, I'm a fence sitter, and I will proudly wear the splinters in my posterior (as some have so graciously put it). And I agree that you try to be fair and will admit to mistakes. I do, and will, too.

I'm willing to consider all evidence and any reasonable speculation. But I don't care for the attacks either - on the principals in this case, LE, this board, its posters or its moderator.

JMO

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Thank you. Yes, I'm a fence sitter, and I will proudly wear the splinters in my posterior (as some have so graciously put it). And I agree that you try to be fair and will admit to mistakes. I do, and will, too.

I'm willing to consider all evidence and any reasonable speculation. But I don't care for the attacks either - on the principals in this case, LE, this board, its posters or its moderator.

JMO [/*]

Just be careful you don't get any infections from those splinters.:)

I think you will still be sitting on the fence until the day this goes to trial. Which is fine. There really is no new facts or information coming out on this at all.

I will be happy once an arrest is made and JLY is convicted. If I am wrong, I will make sure I make my apologies, admit my wrongs, lick my wounds and move on to another message board to discuss the pros and cons!

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine


Just be careful you don't get any infections from those splinters.:)

I think you will still be sitting on the fence until the day this goes to trial. Which is fine. There really is no new facts or information coming out on this at all.

I will be happy once an arrest is made and JLY is convicted. If I am wrong, I will make sure I make my apologies, admit my wrongs, lick my wounds and move on to another message board to discuss the pros and cons! [/*]

You're absolutely right - I probably will be on the fence until this goes to trial and I hear the evidence. Whoever the defendant is. I don't think sitting on the fence is an indication of indecisiveness - it's what I would want from people if someone I loved were suspected of murder. Besides, LE has kept the evidence tightly locked up (for which I commend them), so there are very few facts to push me off the fence either way.

All I truly care about is that Michelle and Rylan Young receive the justice they deserve.

JMO

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


You know myspace profiles to be true??? LOL Of course, no one EVER lies on those!

I never said I inferred an affair from daily communication. If you will read carefully, I stated that was another reason for my inference. Added to the existence of the SW for her home, the fact that there have been no reports of Jason's communications with other women and Major Johnson's statement to the media.

I've never thought, however, that Michelle Money was either a participant in the crime or a motive for the murder.

JMO [/*]

If you want to believe a search warrant for a woman who lived hundreds of miles away from Jason is proof they had a romantic relationship, that's up to you. Doesn't make it true.

It's really dumb for any adult to publicly admit on the Internet to illegal activity. They own their words. There are consequences to such actions as well there should be. Meredith is no kid. At the time of Michelle's murder, she was 26 years old.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15968110/detail.html

DURANGO, Colo. -- A fourth police officer with the Durango Police Department has lost his job because of a posting on his or her personal MySpace page, according to local reports.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


If you want to believe a search warrant for a woman who lived hundreds of miles away from Jason is proof they had a romantic relationship, that's up to you. Doesn't make it true.

It's really dumb for any adult to publicly admit on the Internet to illegal activity. They own their words. There are consequences to such actions as well there should be. Meredith is no kid. At the time of Michelle's murder, she was 26 years old.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15968110/detail.html

DURANGO, Colo. -- A fourth police officer with the Durango Police Department has lost his job because of a posting on his or her personal MySpace page, according to local reports. [/*]

I hate it for the Durango PD, but I don't see the relevance to this case.

IF Meredith admitted to "illegal activity" then yes, that was dumb. Dumb is not evidence of murder.

If you need to have me link proof that romantic relationships can develop and continue between people hundreds of miles away through the Internet, I can do that.

JMO

[oakayfine]

Cardinal -
I totally agree ... may the true perp be arrested and convicted.
I also want to mention that in no way did I mean to imply that you were being indecisive. We just see things in a different way is all that was meant.

I've read both the rumors and the facts. The facts do not point to anyone at this point.
The facts, mixed in with the rumors I've chosen to believe, point to the person I believe murdered Michelle.
The majority of SW's we've seen have all pointed to Jason. LE is fixated on him for some reason which I don't know why but they are. I don't believe they are on a witch hunt (warlock) so that pretty much sums up my belief in his guilt. Tiny nutshell of my "why's but thought I'd let you know a little of the why's.

I know no one on this board will change your mind and rightfully so. I admire your unbiased thought processes.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by oakayfine
I totally agree ... may the true perp be arrested and convicted.

I also want to mention that in no way did I mean to imply that you were being indecisive. We just see things in a different way is all that was meant.

I've read both the rumors and the facts. The facts do not point to anyone at this point.
The facts, mixed in with the rumors I've chosen to believe, point to the person I believe murdered Michelle.
The majority of SW's we've seen have all pointed to Jason. LE is fixated on him for some reason which I don't know why but they are. I don't believe they are on a witch hunt (warlock) so that pretty much sums up my belief in his guilt. Tiny nutshell of my "why's but thought I'd let you know a little of the why's.

I know no one on this board will change your mind and rightfully so. I admire your unbiased thought processes. [/*]

I wasn't referring to you with my "indecisive" comment. :)

And I agree, the majority of the SWs point to Jason. As do other factors. But every time I'm almost convinced...........I'm not.

JMO

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I hate it for the Durango PD, but I don't see the relevance to this case.

IF Meredith admitted to "illegal activity" then yes, that was dumb. Dumb is not evidence of murder.

If you need to have me link proof that romantic relationships can develop and continue between people hundreds of miles away through the Internet, I can do that.

JMO [/*]

Admitting to illegal drug use is evidence of bad character. Posters have formed an opinion about Meredith's character based on her own words. Considering there are no named suspects in this crime and she found the victim's body, yes her character is just as relevant as Jason's character.

fyi: Michelle Money and Jason Young and their spouses were all friends. They did not meet on the Internet.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by june1943


LE has those daily emails and they know what was in them. I think they were just chats between friends. If they had been any thing else I think LE would have leaked them. They have tried every way they can to find something on Jason and all they have found is he is a good worker and a good father. Much has been made about him getting 3 speeding tickets in one year. If that is the worst that people can come up with then he is an angel. By the way a few years back I got 2 speeding tickets in one day. I guess I am a bad old granny. LOL [/*]

LE has "leaked" nothing in this case. They have made a few statements to the press and that is all. A few statements to the press in the beginning of the investigation does not consitute a "leak".
LE is trying to solve a murder. If most of the SW's issued so far in this case have had something to do with JLY than that is what they are investigating. It is not difficult to understand. I will partially agree with your statement that they have found him to be a good worker and good father. Some may have said that. Others may have said the polar opposite. That he was not such a great worker nor such a great father. LE questions many people in the course of an investigation.
Personally, I don't care how many speeding tickets he got. I just got a parking ticket. This does not mean that I murdered soemone so I am not sure what this has to do with the murder or why you would bring it up.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Why would she lie about it? Oh - do you think people make up credentials or expertise to give themselves false credibility on message boards? [/*]Yeah, some people certainly do.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by alter ego
Yeah, some people certainly do. [/*]

You would need to consider the credibility of the poster. Yes, some people do make up things on the internet but I firmly believe the original poster has not lied about her profession.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


I believe it was Maj. Johnson and not YOU that said "it's pretty self explanatory"
Here's his statement:

Wake County Sheriff's Maj. Richard Johnson would not be more specific about the relationship between Money and Jason Young. "It's pretty self-explanatory," Johnson said Thursday. "The average person can read the search warrant and make up their own mind."

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/519119.html [/*]What, did you miss the period in my post ending the first sentence after the word 'said' ?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by oakayfine


You would need to consider the credibility of the poster. Yes, some people do make up things on the internet but I firmly believe the original poster has not lied about her profession. [/*]That's fine but I don't share your opinion.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by oakayfine


LE has "leaked" nothing in this case. -snip-. [/*]Then all the claims of having inside sources at LE are just hogwash.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


Admitting to illegal drug use is evidence of bad character. Posters have formed an opinion about Meredith's character based on her own words. Considering there are no named suspects in this crime and she found the victim's body, yes her character is just as relevant as Jason's character.

fyi: Michelle Money and Jason Young and their spouses were all friends. They did not meet on the Internet. [/*]

I did not say that Jason Young and Michelle Money met on the internet. I offered to link proof that romantic relationships develop and continue on the Internet, and that offer stands.

IMO, Jason Young and Michelle Money developed and continued a romantic relationship through internet-based correspondence and phone calls.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
Then all the claims of having inside sources at LE are just hogwash. [/*]

As are claims of having seen evidence, including SWs and photos, that have not been made public.

JMO

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I did not say that Jason Young and Michelle Money met on the internet. I offered to link proof that romantic relationships develop and continue on the Internet, and that offer stands.

IMO, Jason Young and Michelle Money developed and continued a romantic relationship through internet-based correspondence and phone calls. [/*]

What do relationships that develop and continue on the Internet have to do with this murder? There has been absolutely no evidence that Jason and MM-after being platonic friends for YEARS-developed a romance on the Internet. While you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, there seems to be a desperation on your part to want to believe the two were romantically involved.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by alter ego
Then all the claims of having inside sources at LE are just hogwash. [/*]

or blogwash. LOL

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
There is certainly a difference between drug induced high and a high on life. Surely you know that.Sorta reminds me of a joke. a cop stops a guy for running a stop sign,the guy says,I slowed down,whats the difference. The cops takes out his night stick and begin hitting the guy and said, tell me when to slow down . You don`t get arrested for a natural high but you sure will for a drug induced one. Maybe you can test it and let me know if I am right or wrong. [/*]

You're not making a lot of sense again. Where did Meredith mention anything about drugs? You're jumping to that conclusion with nothing to back it up. I gave you an example of being high without drugs. That is very likely the reference that Meredith was making also. Hadn't she just completed a degree?

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


What do relationships that develop and continue on the Internet have to do with this murder? There has been absolutely no evidence that Jason and MM-after being platonic friends for YEARS-developed a romance on the Internet. While you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, there seems to be a desperation on your part to want to believe the two were romantically involved. [/*]

I assure you, there is no desperation on my part. Whether or not Jason and Michelle Money had a romantic relationship will not change my life at all.

That said, I believe Jason and Michelle Money had an afffair, cyber-based and reality-based. And IF Jason killed his wife, I believe Jason's disengagement from his marriage is a factor in the murder.

But thank you for allowing that I may believe whatever I want. Just so you know, I would anyway.

JMO

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Sounds like you have been posting to much today.Jeeze it is not my fault you don`t understand a post by someone you have been defending for 20+ months.She was on a self drug induced high. [/*]

No. That's what you extrapolated from her statement. I gave you an example of a high that has nothing to do with drugs. There is no reason to believe that she was using illegal substances other than you wanting to believe it. No evidence of this supposed drug use.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I assure you, there is no desperation on my part. Whether or not Jason and Michelle Money had a romantic relationship will not change my life at all.

That said, I believe Jason and Michelle Money had an afffair, cyber-based and reality-based. And IF Jason killed his wife, I believe Jason's disengagement from his marriage is a factor in the murder.

But thank you for allowing that I may believe whatever I want. Just so you know, I would anyway.

JMO [/*]

You own your words, not me. I think it's sorta funny you claim to be objective and then you post pure fiction.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disengage

dis·en·gage (dsn-gj)
v. dis·en·gaged, dis·en·gag·ing, dis·en·gag·es
v.tr.
1. To release from something that holds fast, connects, or entangles. See Synonyms at extricate.
2. To release (oneself) from an engagement, pledge, or obligation.
v.intr.
To free or detach oneself; withdraw.

Jason and Michelle were still very much living together as a married couple and there has been no evidence either one was contemplating divorce or "disengagement" as you claim.

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Remember all those insiders? I see where one of them is now claiming to be part of the LE team. He is now using "we" when he refer`s to LE. Now that is a hoot!!!!!!
That is what can happen when someone becomes so obsessed in something,they eventually become so delusional they actually insert them self as part of the scenario. Sad but I seen it coming...MOO [/*]

It is sad but I've heard that to their credit, LE also saw it coming and issued warnings.

JMO

[MandyMutton]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
"C" was in the presence of her mother. Big difference then allowing Meredith even taking her off without another responsible adult around,don`t you think? [/*]

Sounds like a motive for murder.

The responsible mother has been removed as an obstacle.

JMO

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Cardinal


As are claims of having seen evidence, including SWs and photos, that have not been made public.

JMO [/*]I can't agree to that because Jason's family could have showed that to others that post online whereas LE would not 'leak' info about the case to anyone outside their very tight circle of investigators.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by janesdean


Meredith was posting that she had been sick for 2 weeks, feeling cranky, sleepy and coming down from a "high". I took that to mean she had been taking cold medicine or sinus medication, which makes you feel weird, kinda dopey. Nowhere does she speak of "street drugs" those are your words, really just gossip/rumor/bashing. jmo [/*]I didn't. She said she was a little high and that she was coming down from a high like she was stoned not dopey from cold meds.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by alter ego
Then all the claims of having inside sources at LE are just hogwash. [/*]

I;ve never made those claims so I can not answer that question.

[oakayfine]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Remember all those insiders? I see where one of them is now claiming to be part of the LE team. He is now using "we" when he refer`s to LE. Now that is a hoot!!!!!!
That is what can happen when someone becomes so obsessed in something,they eventually become so delusional they actually insert them self as part of the scenario. Sad but I seen it coming...MOO [/*]

Where do you find this stuff?
Who cares what that poster is claiming on another board. Let the fellow posters deal with it on that board or you go there and refute it.

It seems to me that several people have become obsessed with this murder and have inserted themselves into this case.

People can say anything on the internet; it's up to the reader to decide whether or not to believe any partiular post.

There are several posters on this board who have posted they have seen things or been places and heard thngs that I strongly believe they have not. Their claims are no different than what you are describing in your post. I will not name names as it is not necessary.

IMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by MandyMutton


You own your words, not me. I think it's sorta funny you claim to be objective and then you post pure fiction.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disengage

dis·en·gage (dsn-gj)
v. dis·en·gaged, dis·en·gag·ing, dis·en·gag·es
v.tr.
1. To release from something that holds fast, connects, or entangles. See Synonyms at extricate.
2. To release (oneself) from an engagement, pledge, or obligation.
v.intr.
To free or detach oneself; withdraw.

Jason and Michelle were still very much living together as a married couple and there has been no evidence either one was contemplating divorce or "disengagement" as you claim. [/*]

Yes, I do own my words, and I stand behind them. I stated that I have drawn an inference from several facts that Jason and Michelle Money had an affair. That inference is neither fact nor fiction; that is my opinion. Objectivity does not preclude opinion.

As for disengagement, there is nothing in the definition you cited that requires the condition to be a physical one. In fact, definition "2" describes non-physical disengagement, and is the useage of the word I intended. Thank you for posting it.

JMO

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by alter ego
I can't agree to that because Jason's family could have showed that to others that post online whereas LE would not 'leak' info about the case to anyone outside their very tight circle of investigators. [/*]

That's true. It's also true that Michelle's family and friends could have shared information with others that post online. For example, it has been posted that Michelle Money admitted to her sorority sisters that she had a physical affair with Jason. I have no way of knowing whether the person who posted that information is credible, other than what I surmise from the tone of their post.

The same is true for those who claim to have inside information obtained from Jason's family. I have no way of knowing whether those posters are credible, other than what I surmise from the tone of their posts.

In neither case can the information be considered fact at this point.

JMO

[JHP]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Yes, I do own my words, and I stand behind them. I stated that I have drawn an inference from several facts that Jason and Michelle Money had an affair. That inference is neither fact nor fiction; that is my opinion. Objectivity does not preclude opinion.

As for disengagement, there is nothing in the definition you cited that requires the condition to be a physical one. In fact, definition "2" describes non-physical disengagement, and is the useage of the word I intended. Thank you for posting it.

JMO [/*]

IIRC Mr. Money was interviewed about his wifes involvement with Jason. His comments were something to the fact that at this time we are staying together, we are trying to work things out. etc etc. I don't have a link it's just from memory but it was an actual interview.

Strange comments he made if this was a purely platonic relationship.

JMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Originally posted by june1943


I remember the interview actually here is what he said. Seems a lot different than what you remember.


NBC17 contacted the Money residence in Florida Thursday night and confirmed that the Money still lives there and is married. Money's husband told NBC17 that he and his wife were both friends with Jason Young and offered no further comment.

Here is the link


http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/search.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2006-12-07-0003.html [/*]



Morning, how about if we close this thread down and move over to a new one?

See you there!!

:)
Kat

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