Seriously????

[California]

Originally posted by Beebee


I don't think they liked each other all that much. JMO [/*]I don't think Scott had many friends who liked him.

imho

[California]

Originally posted by Beebee


Do you know who his friends are?

I think his wife Laci loved him very much. Warts and all. [/*]Okay, Laci, Amber and a college coach maybe. Is that it?

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by GrandmaGA
"KING: So, therefore, Ron, there is no thought in your mind obviously people always suspect the most immediate family member or something like this and the husband has not been released from that suspicion and no one, this program has not indicated that he is, but there was no question in your mind that he's not involved, right, Ron?

GRANTSKI: Well, that's correct. I, you know, it might seem unusual he went fishing by himself, but I go fishing by myself a lot. Heaven forbid something happen here because I do it all the time.

KING: So that's not strange to you that he would go fishing?

GRANTSKI: No. Not to me.

KING: And the baby's not due until February 10, right it wasn't that he was going to miss the birth of a child?

GRANTSKI: Just a few hours, I mean, just gone for a few hours. It's -- you have to remember that was a workday for most people. I went to work in the morning, then I was off in the afternoon and he happened to have the day off and so did Sharon. So everybody already prepared for our dinners. We were having dinner at our house that night. So, It was kind of like a lax time before the evening of all of us getting together. "

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0301/13/lkl.00.html

Strange Ron didn't say he too had gone fishing that day, huh? [/*]

GMAB. IT was none of Lrry King's business and since Ron had already told a detective he was fishing 16 miles from his home and his wife was not pregnant and he didn't have a boat, why is this even an issue. The police knew Ron had been fishing. His description of that day shows that he DID admit he'd been fishing.

HIow are those straws holding out for you?

Ron testified that he'd been fishing. So prove that he "hid" that information. Distaso didn't pull it out of thin air. It was in the police reports.

[California]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


GRANTSKI: Yeah, I said What time did you go fishing?

GERAGOS: And he said?

GRANTSKI: 9:30. And I said That's when you come home. Kidding. That's not when you go fishing.

mho [/*]Thanks, 9:30 that's what I remembered.

[California]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


GERAGOS: And Terry Scott reported back to you that the FBI, he briefed you on a trip that the FBI had done into San Luis Obispo; is that correct?

GROGAN: Yes, I think he made that trip.

GERAGOS: Okay. And he had talked to many people in the area, correct?

GROGAN: Yes.

GERAGOS: And he said that many people in the area where very supportive of Scott Peterson, correct?

GROGAN: The people that he contacted, yes.

GERAGOS: He said one individual had commented that Scott was not treated well by Laci, but that all of the people were very supportive of Scott; is that correct?

GROGAN: That’s correct.

mho [/*]Was the one individual Scott's mistress?

:shrug:

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


It certainly is Larry King's business! Ron was a guest on the show, and it's Larry's business to ask him questions!

The prosecution's investigator found out Ron had been fishing shortly before the trial. The fact that the prosecution did not know he had been fishing until shortly before the trial, shows Ron HID his fishing trip! At the time of the January Larry King show, nobody knew Ron had gone fishing! NOBODY!

The issue is Ron hid his fishing trip, not whether Sharon wasn't pregnant, not whether he did have a boat: The ISSUE is Ron HID his fishing trip until he was caught with his fishing rod down.

My husband went fishing on Easter Sunday morning when I was 8 months pregnant! Pregnant women are not wilting violets, and are left home alone to tend to children, clean house, do laundry, shop while their husband is working...or go fishing, or golfing, or just out of the home for whatever reason. That is the way life is.

mho [/*]Link to that information being foudn out shortly before the trial.

Was it your first child? Did your husband go 90 miles away in a boat that you didn't know about? Laci had spent most of teh day before with her feet elevated. I doubt she was doing too much physically on the 24th - given that she had almost fainted when walking teh dog - read her doctor's comments. She was told NOT to walk until the afternoon. More than once she got faint or sick while walking. There are multiple people who testified to her condition - INCLUDING everyone that saw her on the 23rd. Where is your proof about WHEN Ron told the investigator that he was fishing?

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


Maybe you should check the transcripts as you might find your answer there.

mho [/*]You sure didn't provide any names.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


GERAGOS: And Terry Scott reported back to you that the FBI, he briefed you on a trip that the FBI had done into San Luis Obispo; is that correct?

GROGAN: Yes, I think he made that trip.

GERAGOS: Okay. And he had talked to many people in the area, correct?

GROGAN: Yes.

GERAGOS: And he said that many people in the area where very supportive of Scott Peterson, correct?

GROGAN: The people that he contacted, yes.

GERAGOS: He said one individual had commented that Scott was not treated well by Laci, but that all of the people were very supportive of Scott; is that correct?

GROGAN: That’s correct.

mho [/*]Another nameless person. If this person were critical, don't you think the defense would have provided it?

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by Beebee


I think you highly under-estimate the support that Scott and his family have.....

http://scottpetersonappeal.org/cblog/index.php [/*]Cult or friends? Looks like his father to me.





MOO

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


Yes, it was my first child, my son! My husband went a 100 miles away.

How is not knowing about a boat, proof he killed Laci? It doesn't matter whether she knew about it or not if he planned to kill her. But there is no proof she didn't know about the boat. In other words Laci would have guessed he had planned to kill and dump her body in the water if she had known he purchased a boat, and that is why he kept it from her? Is that what you are saying? TIA

Check Kevin Bertallatto, Jon Evers, and Al Brocchini't testimony, and connect the dots. Or search the history of my posts, and you will find excerpts of their testimony there.

Laci wore Stiletto heels in her seventh month of pregnancy so why is she wearling stiletto heels if she is fainting, and has swollen feet? In the uncropped photo of Laci sitting in a chair in the red pant suit, she is wearing stiletto heels, and Sharon mentions in her book about the shoes. Laci looked in tip top shape to me. The swollen feet story came out to discredit that she had walked on an incline in the park.

mho [/*]If Ron knew about the boat, why didn't he say, Scott left at 9:30 a.m. in his boat to go fishing?

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by Beebee


Well that would be impossible since Amber didn't know about Laci until late December. People can try and judge why Scott went out of the marriage for sex/attention..... but I have to ask why do all the other millions of people do it? I've heard pregnancy is a prime time for men. They feel neglected or whatever. Let's be real about this affair business. It means nothing. Especially when you look at the whole Amber deal. Scott lied to Amber because she was a short term deal, IMO. [/*]IIRC Laci caught Scott with his mistress in SLO before they moved to Modesto.


MOO:hat:

[GrandmaGA]

Originally posted by earth goddess
Link to that information being foudn out shortly before the trial.

Was it your first child? Did your husband go 90 miles away in a boat that you didn't know about? Laci had spent most of teh day before with her feet elevated. I doubt she was doing too much physically on the 24th - given that she had almost fainted when walking teh dog - read her doctor's comments. She was told NOT to walk until the afternoon. More than once she got faint or sick while walking. There are multiple people who testified to her condition - INCLUDING everyone that saw her on the 23rd. Where is your proof about WHEN Ron told the investigator that he was fishing? [/*]

GRACE: Now, was it her normal M.O. to take the dog for a walk in the mornings?

S. ROCHA: Yes. Yes. She always took her dog for a walk. Not necessarily every single morning. Because she is far along in her pregnancy, but yes, that was her normal routine, to take the dog for a walk in the park.

GRACE: Let me go to you, Sharon Rocha. She went out for a walk that morning with her dog. Had there been any problems in her pregnancy? Was this their first child?

S. ROCHA: This was their first child, yes. They were expecting a baby boy. They had been trying for quite some time to get pregnant, and it finally happened. As far as any problems, no, nothing serious. Just pretty much a normal pregnancy.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0301/03/lkl.00.html

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Beebee



The guy who sold Scott the boat, Bruce Peterson, is married. Did you catch this part of his testimony? Maybe you should give your husband a break? Is your husband in his late twenties?:shrug:

[/*]

My husband died in a car crash. And what you posted has nothing to do with your husband fishing in a boat that you didn't know about or that I asked you if he went 90 miles away to fish when you were so pregnant.

If you read that testimoony carefully, Bruice Peterson NEVER mentions using his boat in salt water - which will corrode a motor that is not equipped for salt water.

DISTASO: And let's just kind of go through them, go through them, starting on the left-hand side. From, Mr. Peterson's home to the Mossdale launching or crossing launch ramp, where is that located?

BERTALOTTO: That's on Highway 120 where it merges into Highway 205 where it crosses the San Joaquin River, there's, excuse me, a launch access there.

DISTASO: Okay. And there's somewhere you can launch a boat?

BERTALOTTO: Yes.

DISTASO: And how far in miles just from your car driving out there was it?

BERTALOTTO: 26.4.

DISTASO: And if you go up, going up to the top of the map there, how far from Mr. Peterson's home to the Woodward Reservoir launch ramp?

BERTALOTTO: 23.7.

DISTASO: And let's go straight, straight east. Straight east from Mr. Peterson's home, if you were to drive down Highway 132, can you come to a place called the Fox Grove fishing access to the Tuolumne River?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, it's off Albers Road.

DISTASO: Does that have a boat launching ramp there?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, it does.

DISTASO: How far was that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: 9.8 miles.

DISTASO: Is there another location at Turlock Lake in that area of Stanislaus County?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, sir, there is.

DISTASO: How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: 23.7 miles. Same distance.

DISTASO: And again, looking straight above that, the Modesto Reservoir, that's another lake there in Stanislaus County?

BERTALOTTO: Yes.

DISTASO: Does that have a boat launching area there?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, it does.

DISTASO: How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: 19.2 miles.

DISTASO: Going down fairly far south, in Merced County, is there another lake, Yosemite Lake, a small lake?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, there's a small lake there.

DISTASO: Does that have a boat launch?

BERTALOTTO: Yes, it does.

DISTASO: How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: 58 miles.

DISTASO: And keep, keep going east there. It looks like Lake McSwain is another location?

BERTALOTTO: Yes.

DISTASO: How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: To the boat launch there is 49.7.

DISTASO: And going up to Lake McClure, that's another lake right across the county line; is that right?

BERTALOTTO: It's in Merced County.

DISTASO: Okay. How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home to the boat launch ramp at that facility?

BERTALOTTO: At Barrett's Cove, which is the nearest one on that lake, is 45.4.

DISTASO: And Don Pedro Reservoir, another lake in the area, how far was it to the closest boat launch ramp?

BERTALOTTO: Yeah, that was Blue Oak. That was the closest.

DISTASO: Says on there 37.2; is that correct?

BERTALOTTO: That's correct.

DISTASO: Okay. And Lake Tulloch, which is right across the Tuolumne County line from Stanislaus County to the north, if I can read that right it looks like it says 37.1 miles?

BERTALOTTO: Yes. That's to the south shore launch ramp. And it was 47.2 to the north shore launch ramp.

DISTASO: There's two launch ramps at that particular –

BERTALOTTO: Yes. They're accessed off different roads.

DISTASO: And the last one that's on the map there is Tuttletown Reservoir, New Melones. How far is that from Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: I believe it was 58.8 miles.

DISTASO: And is that every single possible place you could go fishing –

BERTALOTTO: No.

DISTASO: in Stanislaus County?

BERTALOTTO: No.

DISTASO: Or the surrounding counties?

BERTALOTTO: No.

DISTASO: Okay. Is this a sample of the boat launch ramps and facilities that are available near Mr. Peterson's home?

BERTALOTTO: It's pretty, pretty much just a random sampling of east, slightly north, slightly south, popular fishing areas for people in the Modesto area, Stanislaus County.

It would seem there are plenty of fishing locations MUCH closer to Modesto than the Bay. There's even the Delta, but NOOOOOO, Scott had to go to salt water in the Bay. Think about it. What makes the Bay more appealing fishing than any of the above? Maybe a deep water shipping channel?

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by Beebee


Exactly.

I am always perplexed why people don't get that :shrug:

Do people think Laci would go screaming for her life if she saw a boat :shrug:

Since Scott revealed his fishing and boat immediately to police how did the "secret boat" come into his "plan":shrug: [/*]

Scott had no choice but to reveal his fishing escapde, he knew someone saw him, he stated that himself. Not 24 hours earlier he told his sister-in-law he was going golfing in the morning. Then he stated it was "to cold" to golf, LOL!!! It's a bit chillier on the bay then it is on a golf course, but he's an idiot, so of course he'd say something so stupid.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Beebee


It's a family blog. What are you expecting??

Check the comments. My point is there is obvious support, for good reason. Too bad you can't see that. [/*]

compared to the numbers of people, from across the county, that should support for Laci's family...the support for Scott is a pittance

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Beebee


Exactly.

I am always perplexed why people don't get that :shrug:

Do people think Laci would go screaming for her life if she saw a boat :shrug:

Since Scott revealed his fishing and boat immediately to police how did the "secret boat" come into his "plan":shrug: [/*]

Scott took Laci fishing on their first date. She got very seasick. This is well known and addressed multiple times. Sharon even testified to Laci getting seasick.

Why did Scott take a freshwater bioat into salt water? The engine would be ruined. I think he planned to scuttle the boat after dumping the body. He wasn't counting on having to reveal its existence to the police. That is also why he never put the boat into his name. It would be so easy to scuttle the boat, claim it stolen before he could register it and get off "scott free"

But he had to prove to police where he was via the launch receipt. You can't fish from a launch without a boat.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


That's right. I provided transcripts to show Scott had supporters. I don't know what their names are since it is not mentioned in the transcripts--only that he had people who supported him.

mho [/*]

where were they? During the trial? During sentencing? I sure didn't see throngs of people standing in support of him

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Beebee


So are you saying Scott picked the very public marina in broad daylight from his untested dinky boat to dump the body?

But his plan foiled when he noticed he was seen?? [/*]

No one ever said he was the brightest bulb

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by KKKKKKatie


where were they? During the trial? During sentencing? I sure didn't see throngs of people standing in support of him [/*]

Yet they post on a blog that he cannot access. I know of his supporters too - they all share similar traits. They ignore evidence and facts and distort the testimony by leaving out anything that contrdicts their theory.

A good example is saying that the police did not know about Ron's fishing until right before the trial. You think they never asked Ron what he was doing that day until just before the trial? I don't think so. The first thing any law enforcement person does is check out all the alibis. Scott's couldn't be validated. Everyone else either took lie detector tests or had witnesses to back up their statements. If Scott were the only suspect, why were Brent and Amy asked to take polygraphs - because they would have benefited from the trust with Laci gone. They didn't hesitate.

People who are innocent WANT to take lie detector tests. Scott was not one of those. He may have told Brocchini that he would take one, but he never did. Even when Amber agtreed to go with him and hold his hand, he backed out.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by earth goddess


Yet they post on a blog that he cannot access. I know of his supporters too - they all share similar traits. They ignore evidence and facts and distort the testimony by leaving out anything that contrdicts their theory.

A good example is saying that the police did not know about Ron's fishing until right before the trial. You think they never asked Ron what he was doing that day until just before the trial? I don't think so. The first thing any law enforcement person does is check out all the alibis. Scott's couldn't be validated. Everyone else either took lie detector tests or had witnesses to back up their statements. If Scott were the only suspect, why were Brent and Amy asked to take polygraphs - because they would have benefited from the trust with Laci gone. They didn't hesitate.

People who are innocent WANT to take lie detector tests. Scott was not one of those. He may have told Brocchini that he would take one, but he never did. Even when Amber agtreed to go with him and hold his hand, he backed out. [/*]

I know EG...I remember this group well during the trial.
IMO Exaggeration is their friend ;)

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Beebee


So are you saying Scott picked the very public marina in broad daylight from his untested dinky boat to dump the body?

But his plan foiled when he noticed he was seen?? [/*]

Yet it was not very public that day - read the testimony of the employees of teh Marine.

I think his plan folded when he ran out of time that day - he had to get home to give the appearance of normality. It was no problem. He hid the boat in his warehouse, and knew he could do it another day - maybe Christmas day for all we know. But those doggone Modesto police got him to reveal he had a boat so that plan went out the window.

[KKKKKKatie]

Originally posted by Beebee


The media got involved, then the public got involved, and we all know how the media controls public opinion.

Do you think an average person on trial has masses of people around due to media? The media driven circus over-shadowed the entire trial and that included minimizing any support for Scott.

The media hurt Scott terribly, for the sake of ratings. Sorry you can't see it. MOO [/*]

No I don't see it. If Scott had been a friend of mine and I felt he was innocent...wild horses wouldn't have kept me away.

I remember asking my husband about it at the time...he said the same thing so I don't accept your premise one bit.

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by Beebee


It's a family blog. What are you expecting??

Check the comments. My point is there is obvious support, for good reason. Too bad you can't see that. [/*]My point is he didn't have any friends as earlier stated.



jmo

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


That's right. I provided transcripts to show Scott had supporters. I don't know what their names are since it is not mentioned in the transcripts--only that he had people who supported him.

mho [/*]Who cares if some supported him? Don't murderers have supporters?


jmho

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by Sturgeon_Moon
Who cares if some supported him? Don't murderers have supporters?


jmho [/*]

There are certainly people who need to have a cause, so they rally around the unpopular view.

Scott Peterson's family supported him. They were threatened with being disowned if they didn't.:lol:

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


Didn't character witness' testify on Scott's behalf in the penality phase of the trial? Wasn't it 40 witness'? I am not sure of the number. TIA

mho [/*]IIRC family and a coach.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by earth goddess


Yet it was not very public that day - read the testimony of the employees of teh Marine.

I think his plan folded when he ran out of time that day - he had to get home to give the appearance of normality. It was no problem. He hid the boat in his warehouse, and knew he could do it another day - maybe Christmas day for all we know. But those doggone Modesto police got him to reveal he had a boat so that plan went out the window. [/*]
DISTASO: Is, was, is this time of year at the marina a busy time of year? Or not busy time?

CHESS: Not so busy.


DISTASO: On the 24th of December, 2002, let me ask you this. Is that, was that a busy day at the marina?

GOOSBY: No.

DISTASO: Have you worked Christmas Eve in the past?

GOOSBY: Yes, I have.

DISTASO: And is that typically a busy time at the marina?

GOOSBY: It's pretty slow around that time.

DISTASO: And was December 24th, 2002, a pretty slow day there?

GOOSBY: Pretty slow. Just like during the, it's wintertime. It's real chilly and cold. Hardly any activity.


DISTASO: Now, once people pay their money and they get their ticket, then what do they do with it?

MARCHETTI: They put it up in the windshield so that we can, if we drive by, we can see it.

DISTASO: You can kind of check to see who's paid?

MARCHETTISee who has paid.


DISTASO: Now, were you working on December 24th, 2002?

MARCHETTI: Yes.

DISTASO: And can you tell, where did you spend your day?

MARCHETTI: Most of the time I spent in the office.

DISTASO: And did you ever go out and drive around and check out the marina?

MARCHETTI: Yes, I drove around the marina once that day.

DISTASO: What hours were you there at the marina?

MARCHETTI: I was there from about eight until five, eight until 4:30, something like that.

DISTASO: What was the amount of people or customer traffic coming into the office on that day?

MARCHETTI: We didn't have anybody that I recall come into the office.

DISTASO: Did, was that a slow day at the marina?

MARCHETTI: Yes.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Sturgeon_Moon
IIRC family and a coach. [/*]



and friends of his parents and people who knew him "when" -

Notice how one brother and his half sister and brother did NOT testify for him

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965




Scott is going to take a chance that not many people would be at the Marina when he dumps Laci's body? No way would Scott take a chance on not being seen when he dumps a body in broad daylight!

Killers want to hide their crimes not announce their kills in broad daylight. Besides, didn't someone see him at the Marina, and that is allegedly why he said he went fishing at Berkeley Marina?



mho [/*] You are ignoring the size of the Bay and how difficult it is to see what someone is doing in a boat when you are in another boat. It's about 10 miles across from Berkeley to San Francisco - and that's just the WIDTH of the Bay - It's at least 50 mioles long.

It's cold and gloomy. Not the kind of weather that most people would want to be on the water. Employees working at the Marina all commented on the weather and how few people were there.

It's safe to assume that not many people would be out in such gloomy weather.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


They didn't "get" him to "reveal" he had a boat! In order to "get him to reveal it, they would have known about it before he told them...and how would they know?

Scott told them he had a boat, and went fishing. This was on the night of 24 December! He wasn't trying to hide his fishing trip (like Ron was hiding his fishing trip!), or that he had a boat.

mho [/*]

You state that Ron hid his fishing trip - link to the proof of that, please? It was in the police reports. Geragos had it - so how is that hiding it?

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


I am not ignoring the size of the bay. Someone did see him!

He is not going to take a chance on dumping a body in broad daylight with witness'. He is going to take a chance on the weather being cold and gloomy because few people will be there. This is a tortured theory.

All he would need to snuff Laci is a gun and a shovel, and a drive with Laci to the woods, killed her and buried her.

mho [/*]

Guns and shovels leave forensic evidence. What woods are you referring to anyway? All forensics would wash off her in water and he might get lucky and she'd never be found.

You obviously have no familiarity with the area or the logistics of things. Guns leave blood and blood can be ffound easily. Guns make noise too. Shoevels can be traced.

Link to the testimony of the person who saw him, please.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


Produce the police reports (with the date) where it reported that Ron said he went fishing. If you can produce dated police reports that he told police he had gone fishing, i will retract that Ron hid his fishing trip!

It was the prosecutors own intestigator who found out Ron had been fishing. He found this out shortly before the start of the trial. Now if you have police reports...or know where they can be located, would you please produce the information? There are no police reports, to my knowledge!

I have produced the transcripts of officer Jon Evers who knew nothing of Ron's fishing trip until he heard it on a news report during the trial, and I have posted Brocchini's transcipt that he did not know Ron had gone fishing until he heard it at trial.

That is all you will get from me IS the transcripts I have already produced, which are of a detective and police officer who knew nothing about Ron's fishing trip until the trial!
MHO [/*]

You KNOW THAT THE police reports are sealed. Jon Evers did not interview Ron. Brocchini did not interview Roin. If Grogan had been questioned, he would have that information. He wasn't shocked. Distaso was shocked. Geragos wasn't shocked.

So they all knew. It was just the detectivews and officers who did NOT interview Ron that did not know.

I am asking for testimony of the person who allegedly SAW Scott at the Marina. You claim he was seen. Where is the testimony to prove it. All you have proven is that Ever and Brocchini did not know about Ron's fishing trip. No one asked Grogan who DID know as he should have, being the lead detective. I bet Jon Evers didn't know that Amy cut Scott's hair the night before until the trial either.

You don't understand that many detectives were involved. I do know who interviewed Ron but that is in confidence as he is still a detective and doesn't want to violate any confidences. Sharon knew Ron went fishing. It was no secret to anyone that Ron was an AVID FISHERMAN. It was clear to everyone that Scott was NOT.

It is no secret that Ron carries a fishing pole in his vehicle so he can stop and fish at anytime. Where did Scott carrry his fishing pole? Oh yeah, he left it in Ron's garages for two years.

If I may be so bold, your comment about that's all we'll get in transcripts from you tells me that you don't have anything top prove that Scott was seen at the Marina. More made up "facts" I presume

Oh, wait. I knwo. Scott SAID he was seen. Yeah well Scott said a lot of lies.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by earth goddess


You KNOW THAT THE police reports are sealed. Jon Evers did not [/*]
They all did NOT know.

GERAGOS: Okay. Now, you now know, you didn't know at the time, but you now know, after this trial started, that Ron Grantski went fishing that same day, correct?

GROGAN: Yes.

...

GERAGOS: Well, the circumstances are that he didn't tell anybody he was going fishing until the middle of this trial, and Scott told everybody, including the police, he was going fishing within an hour, within five minutes of the police showing up, right?

GROGAN: (No response)

GERAGOS: Well, I'll ask it a different way. The circumstances are different in that, when Ron Grantski came up, the police thought that he was serious when he said it was a little bit fishy that you were going fishing, right?

GROGAN: Yes.

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Luke Davis
Scott didn't leave at 9:30 Ron was just guessing. Scott was an avid golfer and when he wasn't home all day that would be a logical assumption.



MOO:hat: [/*] Au contraire. Scott told the police he left at 9:30 too.

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by earth goddess
Au contraire. Scott told the police he left at 9:30 too. [/*]He lied or was mistaken according to court testimony. He didn't leave until after 9:48 a.m.




imhoo

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by alter ego

They all did NOT know.

GERAGOS: Okay. Now, you now know, you didn't know at the time, but you now know, after this trial started, that Ron Grantski went fishing that same day, correct?

GROGAN: Yes.

...

GERAGOS: Well, the circumstances are that he didn't tell anybody he was going fishing until the middle of this trial, and Scott told everybody, including the police, he was going fishing within an hour, within five minutes of the police showing up, right?

GROGAN: (No response)

GERAGOS: Well, I'll ask it a different way. The circumstances are different in that, when Ron Grantski came up, the police thought that he was serious when he said it was a little bit fishy that you were going fishing, right?

GROGAN: Yes. [/*]

And your point? LOL LOL LOL

[earth goddess]

Originally posted by Sturgeon_Moon
He lied or was mistaken according to court testimony. He didn't leave until after 9:48 a.m.




imhoo [/*]

I believe Scott also told people he didn't use drugs, not even aspirin. Then what was he doing with Viagra and sleeping pills in his possession when he was arrested?

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by mcannie1965
I DO NOT believe Ron Grantski killed Laci! But there has to be an explanation how he knew the exact time Scott had left his house that morning of 24 December, and he went fishing at the exact same time as Scott! Could it be Ron Grantski had been tailing Scott and knew his activities?

As early as 25 December he asked Scott if he had a girlfriend. Could he have known about Amber Frey before 24 December? Al Brocchini said at the press conference after the verdict, that he knew about Amber from "day one!" We call it the "poke in the ribs" press conference. When he said he knew about Amber from "day one," he got a poke in the ribs.

mho [/*]

I woudn't quit your day job if I were you. Scott told Sharon he left the house at 9:30 in the morning who in turn told Ron, who in turn repeated the information given when he called 911. It is so uncomplicated. You might try reading tea leaves for your information, you'd be more accurate.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by earth goddess


You state that Ron hid his fishing trip - link to the proof of that, please? It was in the police reports. Geragos had it - so how is that hiding it? [/*]Geragos didn't know until after the trial started :rolleyes:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Nattlebee


I woudn't quit your day job if I were you. Scott told Sharon he left the house at 9:30 in the morning who in turn told Ron, who in turn repeated the information given when he called 911. It is so uncomplicated. You might try reading tea leaves for your information, you'd be more accurate. [/*]Is there testimony to that affect?

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by mcannie1965


Scott told Ron he went fishing at 9:30 later that night:

GRANTSKI: Yeah, I said What time did you go fishing?

GERAGOS: And he said?

GRANTSKI: 9:30. And I said That's when you come home. Kidding. That's not when you go fishing.

mho [/*]

When Ron made the 911 call he only knew Scott left the house at 9:30, not that he was fishing. 2 + 2 = 4.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Nattlebee


And your point? LOL LOL LOL [/*]:confused: Ron's fishing trip wasn't know to Grogan until the trial. He musta forgot to tell LE that he was fishing when he gave Scott a hard time about what time he went fishing.

[Nattlebee]

Originally posted by Beebee


So are you saying Scott picked the very public marina in broad daylight from his untested dinky boat to dump the body?

But his plan foiled when he noticed he was seen?? [/*]

No, I never said Scott picked the very public marina in broad daylight, you said that.

Laci was never heard from after 8:30 PM on the night of the 23rd. Scott had plenty of night time to move/dump the body. I believe he made 2 trips to the Marina. He had ample time, and how many people do you think are at the Marina on Christmas Eve? Was it not reported there were THREE?

[Sturgeon_Moon]

Originally posted by alter ego
Geragos didn't know until after the trial started :rolleyes: [/*]Did Geragos ask anyone?

[earth goddess]

GRANTSKI: Probably around 11:00, 11:30, 12:00. I wished everybody a Merry Christmas and said I would see them afterwards.

DISTASO: And then you left the job site. And on the way home did you do any fishing?

GRANTSKI: Yeah. I, I believe I called Sharon and, you know, that was a Tuesday. A lot of people had to kind of work part of the day or you had to get things ready, and I, I told her I was getting ready, and she said she was going to the show, I believe with Sandy, so I figured well, I've got a few hours, so I decided to drive and go fishing.