Father now Charged - A First in Texas Cases when Moms Kill Kids

[BorderCollieMom]

There is a TON of info at the link. You can read the whole story there.



http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/052508dadarrests.3*41412.html?npc

Legal experts say the charge against Mr. Maxon is as unprecedented as it is bold. Investigators in these types of child homicides are now casting a wider net in assigning blame – not leaving responsibility for the death solely with the mothers – said George Dix, a University of Texas law professor in Austin.

Comments ? This is being compared to the Yates case, of course...but others here in Texas as well. What do yall think ?

[gemsbmw]

I just wish Yates had been charged. :cuss:

[Land Shark®]

To use the link above, you must copy/paste to your address bar and remove the ' * ' and insert the letter bee.

[mrsmcgoo]

Originally posted by gemsbmw
I just wish Yates had been charged. :cuss: [/*]

Yes !! Yes!! and YES!!

I couldn't agree more and have always thought the fathers of these children should have been in the least, charged with endangering the children by leaving them with their mother.

JMO

[Mimi428]

Originally posted by BorderCollieMom


Comments ? This is being compared to the Yates case, of course...but others here in Texas as well. What do yall think ? [/*]

Thanks for that link. Much appreciated.

I'm still reeling over this part of it - WTH could THAT be about?

Michael Maxon knew his wife was losing her fight for sanity.

Mental-health experts warned him that Valeria Maxon was despondent and psychotic and, if left alone, could endanger the life of their 1-year-old son, Alexander.

Mr. Maxon recorded tapes, homemade therapy for his wife when she became depressed. On them, a police affidavit said, Mr. Maxon repeatedly chanted: "Our son is riding on the short bus." "Life is so deliciously miserable." "I am a mother. It's all my fault."

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how the heck he or his attorney is going to 'splain that.

JMO

[Mimi428]

Originally posted by Soldiermom08
What in the world possesses people to do these things?
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Full blown psychotic illnesses with delusions and/or hallucinations.

[Brooke]

I cant get the link to work, I even replaced the * with a bee, anyway. I think it is great they are trying this man (just from what little I got in your posts). I also believe that Rusty should be charged as well. Every point regarding Rusty, that was stated above, is true and should be enough to get this man behind bars. Maybe, just maybe there is some hope of Rusty being charged in connection with his childrens murder.

As a parent our #1 responsibility is to protect our children at all costs, even if that means protecting them from the other parent.

[PatC]

Originally posted by Brooke
I cant get the link to work, I even replaced the * with a bee, anyway. I think it is great they are trying this man (just from what little I got in your posts). I also believe that Rusty should be charged as well. Every point regarding Rusty, that was stated above, is true and should be enough to get this man behind bars. Maybe, just maybe there is some hope of Rusty being charged in connection with his childrens murder.

As a parent our #1 responsibility is to protect our children at all costs, even if that means protecting them from the other parent. [/*]

I think I found the article linked above.

CLICK HERE (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-dadarrests_25met.ART.State.Edition2.4615846.html)


At least it's one story about Maxon.

[Mimi428]

Do a Google news search on his name - Michael Maxon.

:seeya:

[PatC]

Originally posted by Mimi428
Do a Google news search on his name - Michael Maxon.

:seeya: [/*]

Here's one interesting result:

Michael Maxon ------- (http://www.ccnh.edu/community/networking/student_spotlights/studentprofile-maxon0503.asp)

"Michael Maxon, M.S. graduate and Ph.D. candidate"

"He has worked professionally in the nutrition and natural health industry since 1987, and has shopped at health food stores for more than 30 years. When Michael and his wife Valeria, go to a drugstore, they make a joke that they only buy band-aids and tissue there."

There are other links too, of course.

[Amy]

Originally posted by PatC


I think I found the article linked above.

CLICK HERE (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-dadarrests_25met.ART.State.Edition2.4615846.html)


At least it's one story about Maxon. [/*]

Thanks for the link.

Those tapes he made for her--for pete's sake, they sounded like he was egging her on. They sure didn't make sense, not if he was trying to bring her out of a depression by listening to them.

And, he just left for "90 minutes" to go to the store. Well, I am a single mom, and at NO time was it ever, ever, an option for me to leave my kids in a dangerous situation. If I had to run to the store, I had to pack up TWO kids (not just one) and take them along. EVERY parent has to be ever vigilant. It's hard enough to be aware of hidden dangers, but there is no excuse for exposing them to known dangers.

[Silent Ears]

Originally posted by Soldiermom08
Gads!!!!

Is child killing on the rise, or are we just more conscious of it, or what? What in the world possesses people to do these things?
No value for human life whatsoever. Everything in this world is disposable now, and apparently some people think this extends to human beings also.

:flamemad: and :( [/*]
I don't think it is on the rise on child killings.
IMO I do believe it was always there,just more is being turned in and being charge,
IMO I do think that in the past the kids were just reported as missing. If you recall for a long time alot of kids were so called missing .And no one ever knew what happened to them.
There is alot od sick-o's out there IMOAnd don't care who or how they hurt.

[LisaM22]

it would be crazy to hold someone responsible for someone killing their children when they had no idea the person was planing or could kill their own children - would need to know more about this case before comparing to the yates case

[ellvarn]

Rusty was warned by doctors - no more babies - he didn't care - he was warned to get Andrea out of that motor home - he didn't care, (he finally did move them out) -he was warned about Andrea needing time away from the kids - he didn't care, I can go on and about the warnings of her mental and emotional needs and he didn't care. OH BUT WAIT - he has started over :flamemad:

[sardoodledom]

Originally posted by PatC


Here's one interesting result:

Michael Maxon ------- (http://www.ccnh.edu/community/networking/student_spotlights/studentprofile-maxon0503.asp)

"Michael Maxon, M.S. graduate and Ph.D. candidate"

"He has worked professionally in the nutrition and natural health industry since 1987, and has shopped at health food stores for more than 30 years. When Michael and his wife Valeria, go to a drugstore, they make a joke that they only buy band-aids and tissue there."

There are other links too, of course. [/*]

This guy sounds like a nutcase. He probably had to get a mail-order bride because no American woman would go near him.

[sardoodledom]

Originally posted by ellvarn
Rusty was warned by doctors - no more babies - he didn't care - he was warned to get Andrea out of that motor home - he didn't care, (he finally did move them out) -he was warned about Andrea needing time away from the kids - he didn't care, I can go on and about the warnings of her mental and emotional needs and he didn't care. OH BUT WAIT - he has started over :flamemad: [/*]

I honestly don't know how Rusty Yates ever found a woman to marry him - and I'm referring to Andrea.

Now, I could see it, because he's "famous."

[LisaM22]

Originally posted by ellvarn
Rusty was warned by doctors - no more babies - he didn't care - he was warned to get Andrea out of that motor home - he didn't care, (he finally did move them out) -he was warned about Andrea needing time away from the kids - he didn't care, I can go on and about the warnings of her mental and emotional needs and he didn't care. OH BUT WAIT - he has started over :flamemad: [/*]

yes, he did not think his wife was a child killer, he was wrong, she kept that secret to herself - he had no idea what evil thoughts ran through her head, hindsight is 20\20

[ellvarn]

I agree that hindsight is 20/20 but I never said that Rusty ever thought Andrea would kill the kids, but he did "know" she needed help in many areas.

[SaraSidle]

Originally posted by ellvarn
I agree that hindsight is 20/20 but I never said that Rusty ever thought Andrea would kill the kids, but he did "know" she needed help in many areas. [/*]

I totally agree with you ellvarn. And he was warned to stop getting her pregnant because of the post partum depression by medical personnel and he never listened. This is something that does happen due to the depression caused by birth in some woman. I worked with schizophrenics for 15 years and we had a few women who had killed their babies. The sad part is that no medication ever touched their psychotic break after the post partum depression. Must have been them unable to face it. I think in these situations the father must also be held responsible if there is even a hint of post partum depression. It is a real serious illness. I do think we will hear more and more about it in the media since the Yates case. JMHO

[ellvarn]

Sara - that was my point - he was warned more than once that the post partum depression would and does only gets worse with having baby after baby. She was never able to "heal" after giving birth and falling even deeper in post partum depression. And was never given a break as Rusty was warned about over and over. I'm mot sure how he should have been held responsible, but I am still angry that IMO he became "Infamous".:flamemad:

[SaraSidle]

Originally posted by ellvarn
Sara - that was my point - he was warned more than once that the post partum depression would and does only gets worse with having baby after baby. She was never able to "heal" after giving birth and falling even deeper in post partum depression. And was never given a break as Rusty was warned about over and over. I'm mot sure how he should have been held responsible, but I am still angry that IMO he became "Infamous".:flamemad: [/*]



I am so very angry at any father who does that and I have always felt he should have taken on reponsibility ellvarn. Accessary to murder would have been fine or even some kind of negligence with the max sentence. Anything but instead he went free to start another family and I feel he is very greedy. IMO

[LisaM22]

Originally posted by ellvarn
I agree that hindsight is 20/20 but I never said that Rusty ever thought Andrea would kill the kids, but he did "know" she needed help in many areas. [/*]

I agree, he did not know, no one did except Andrea - he had taken her to a doctor, she had been depression for years that would come and go, it was who she was, it became the norm to those around her, not even her family had her committed to protect the children, guessing they did not feel that was needed at the time, she never told anyone about her plans to kill her 5 children - had she just told someone, anyone, things would of turned out different I think - jmho

[LisaM22]

Originally posted by SaraSidle


I totally agree with you ellvarn. And he was warned to stop getting her pregnant because of the post partum depression by medical personnel and he never listened. <snip>[/*]

your right, had the children not of ever been born, Andrea could not of killed them - but then again, that could be said about any parent that kills their children imo

[Amy]

Originally posted by LisaM22
it would be crazy to hold someone responsible for someone killing their children when they had no idea the person was planing or could kill their own children - would need to know more about this case before comparing to the yates case [/*]

The article reported that the doctors said she could be a danger, and the husband and (his/her?) mother said they would see to it that she wasn't ever left alone with the baby.

[rowdy1225]

Originally posted by gemsbmw
I just wish Yates had been charged. :cuss: [/*]

Amen to that. Rusty should have been charged IMO and now he is making more babies :cuss:

[BorderCollieMom]

Yea, that tape recording is Freaky ! It will be very interesting to see what happens with this case.

Thanks to all for posting more links.


Originally posted by Mimi428


Thanks for that link. Much appreciated.

I'm still reeling over this part of it - WTH could THAT be about?

Michael Maxon knew his wife was losing her fight for sanity.

Mental-health experts warned him that Valeria Maxon was despondent and psychotic and, if left alone, could endanger the life of their 1-year-old son, Alexander.

Mr. Maxon recorded tapes, homemade therapy for his wife when she became depressed. On them, a police affidavit said, Mr. Maxon repeatedly chanted: "Our son is riding on the short bus." "Life is so deliciously miserable." "I am a mother. It's all my fault."

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how the heck he or his attorney is going to 'splain that.

JMO [/*]

[sardoodledom]

Originally posted by Silent Ears

I don't think it is on the rise on child killings.
IMO I do believe it was always there,just more is being turned in and being charge,
IMO I do think that in the past the kids were just reported as missing. If you recall for a long time alot of kids were so called missing .And no one ever knew what happened to them.
There is alot od sick-o's out there IMOAnd don't care who or how they hurt. [/*]

And a lot of child abuse was explained away as "he fell out of his high chair" or "she rolled off the changing table" or some such nonsense.

I knew Rusty Yates remarried. Are they expecting a child, or have had one? I hadn't heard anything about that.

[GentleBreeze]

This is good news. I couldn't care less what gender the other parent is if they know that the other parent is a danger to the children then the one knowing, who did nothing, should be charged and convicted.

I am also so sick and tired of just one parent getting the sentence in a lot of these child cases and the other parent gets a plea deal or no jail time or isn't convicted at all when they, themselves, knowingly participated in the heinous torture, neglect, gross abuse or murder of their own children.

We have got to start giving these poor children full justice. Many times in these cases the sentences can be so shameful from parole or just a few months for the one that rolled over on the other parent. Somehow that has got to stop and ALL who knew and allowed it to happen or ALL who participated in the cruelty should both be held equally accountable.

imoo