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Cardinal

05-18-2008, 09:55 AM

jammies

05-18-2008, 10:19 AM

How many times have the investigators been to Brevard? How long do they stay? Where have they been seen?

Maybe they are interviewing JY's friends, former classmates and teachers.

:shrug:

Hey Paula

05-18-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Barbara2
Investigators have said that this is still a very active case. They continue to work to bring the case to a resolution. Residents of Brevard have said that investigators have been seen in town recently. What could they be there to find? [/*]

Because JY went to Brevard on the day he sent Meredith to retrieve a document/discover her sister's bludgeoned body, I think a lot might be learned from neighbors re the time JY arrived, activity in the household prior to the phone call from the RPD, demeanor of the family/JY, vehicle activity that day, purchases made, immediate/subsequent consistent/inconsistent statements made to neighbors and friends, etc.

I also believe investigators are there to remind JY that although he might be out of sight in Raleigh, the scene where his pregnant wife was bludgeoned to death, having moved hundreds of miles away, that he is certainly not out of the minds of those investigating Michelle's murder. They are there in Brevard, should he decide to assist them in solving the murders of his wife, Michelle, and his unborn son, Rylan.

IMO

Barbara2

05-18-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by june1943

I am to the point where I think an arrest is the only way Jason will ever put this behind him and be able to raise his daughter and move on with his life. During a trial his attorneys will be able to defend all the rumors that have been circulated about him and Michelle. The DA will have to explain how Jason's footprint doesn't fit the foot print in the bedroom. Then we will hear the truth about the missing jewelry. Sheriff Donnie says he is missing a piece from where I see this case now he hasn't even started the puzzle. IMO [/*]

I suppose it could seem that way because we do not know all of the evidence collected by the investigators. We know they have the therapists notes but we don't know what's in those notes. We know they collected evidence at the crime scene but we don't know all of the evidence collected or the results from the lab work done. I will be interested to hear the evidence when it is presented at trial.

And if Jason wanted to defend rumors, he could take care of that right now. I'm sure the investigators would give him an opportunity if he chose to talk to them.

Barbara2

05-18-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Barbara , He doesn't need to defend rumors now he hasn't been arrested. The defence doesn't have to do a think till an arrest is made. [/*]

I must have misunderstood. I thought that you indicated that you were hoping for an arrest and trial so that Jason could defend against the rumors and move on with his life. I was pointing out that he doesn't need to wait for a trial to do that if he is truly innocent.

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

I believe LE is closer to an arrest.

We have learned, through an insider, that Linda and Meredith Fisher met with the Wake County DA, on Thursday, May 15. Did the DA give them news of the expected frame of time for an arrest in the near future?

Sheriff Harrison has said, just last week end, " There WILL be an arrest in this case." Detective Spivey and Detective Blackwell both made the same statement, last week end.

Back to November 2006, Jason Young "learns" his wife is murdered, after he dramatically falls in his parents front yard at the news, he jumps up and gets himself a big time lawyer! He then refuses to speak with investigators working on the case, he quits his job, packs his bags and he heads for Brevard NC. That is an odd reaction and an even stranger display of concern for finding the truth regarding the murder of his beloved wife and baby boy!

I believe Wake County investigators just want to remind Jason Young that it's not over. They haven't forgotten his strange display at the beginning, and his continued lack of words, statements, questions , concern and interest the past year and a half, through today.
That, they are still on this case, every single day.
They know the truth to this case. They are close to proving the truth, "just one more piece is needed", said Donnie Harrison last week end.

MHO. [/*]

I must have missed the news article with Donnie's quotes. Anyone have a link?

on the go

05-18-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

I must have missed the news article with Donnie's quotes. Anyone have a link? [/*]

http://news14.com/Video/video_pop.aspx?vids=65292&sid=16&rid=94

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by on the go

http://news14.com/Video/video_pop.aspx?vids=65292&sid=16&rid=94 [/*]

Thanks but that must be the wrong one. He doesn't say quote, "there will be an arrest in this case" or "just one more piece is needed" in that video.

on the go

05-18-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

Thanks but that must be the wrong one. He doesn't say quote, "there will be an arrest in this case" or "just one more piece is needed" in that video. [/*]

"I'm confident we are gonna make an arrest in this case"... (I don't have the link for the other quote)

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Go look for it yourself.
You can check NBC17 or WTVD.

In the mean time, the detectives said privately there **will** be an arrest.

No annalyzer, the media does not shadow the cops to capture every word. Believe the posts or not. Nobody really cares [/*]

I am not required to go look for it myself. If anyone quotes what an official said then a link is required.

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope
snip~

They are close to proving the truth, "just one more piece is needed", said Donnie Harrison last week end.

[/*]

If "just one more piece is needed" then why hasn't there been an arrest? Unless of course that one piece needed is a confession from Jason. :hat:

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Naw june, the sheriff has made great progress putting the puzzle together. I heard they had 7 of 10 pieces March 2007.
A year later they have 9.

Like he said, he hopes the public can be patient.
Having all 10 is a slam dunk...the Fisher's deserve nothing less.
The possibility of a hung jury is not an option in this case. [/*]

You certainly seem to know a lot about this case Otterman. Who do you think is the suspect in your opinion?

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

"Sooner or later, somebody's going to come back with a little piece that's going to fit into that puzzle like we need it," said Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison, who attended the celebration.

"Harrison said he expects to make an arrest at some point, but doesn't know when that might be, and hopes people can be patient."

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-05-10-0007.html [/*]

Again I do not see the direct quotes from Mr. Harrison, "There will be an arrest in this case" or "just one more piece is needed".

Is there a link to these quotes or not?

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

You certainly seem to know a lot about this case Otterman. Who do you think is the suspect in your opinion? [/*]

Welcome, Sara. Your first time posting on this board? :)

Hey Paula

05-18-2008, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

I believe LE is closer to an arrest.

We have learned, through an insider, that Linda and Meredith Fisher met with the Wake County DA, on Thursday, May 15. Did the DA give them news of the expected frame of time for an arrest in the near future?

Sheriff Harrison has said, just last week end, " There WILL be an arrest in this case." Detective Spivey and Detective Blackwell both made the same statement, last week end.

Back to November 2006, Jason Young "learns" his wife is murdered, after he dramatically falls in his parents front yard at the news, he jumps up and gets himself a big time lawyer! He then refuses to speak with investigators working on the case, he quits his job, packs his bags and he heads for Brevard NC. That is an odd reaction and an even stranger display of concern for finding the truth regarding the murder of his beloved wife and baby boy!

I believe Wake County investigators just want to remind Jason Young that it's not over. They haven't forgotten his strange display at the beginning, and his continued lack of words, statements, questions , concern and interest the past year and a half, through today.
That, they are still on this case, every single day.
They know the truth to this case. They are close to proving the truth, "just one more piece is needed", said Donnie Harrison last week end.

MHO. [/*]

ITA! Sheriff Harrision's air of confidence, as well as his attendance at the Celebration of Michelle's Life, were very encouraging signs. I agree that it seems as though this case is very close to being officially solved.

IMO

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

If you want a word for word **link**, guess not.

The link I posted says the same thing.
Guess you can't figure that out.
:rolleyes: [/*]

No, it doesn't. A direct quote is the words actually spoken. Guess you can't figure that out. :hat:

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Fireflies_3

Read between the lines like everyone else does and you will figure it out.........maybe:shrug: [/*]

Don't worry, I have figured it out. The "just one more piece is needed" comment is obviously nothing more than a rumor.

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

Don't worry, I have figured it out. The "just one more piece is needed" comment is obviously nothing more than a rumor. [/*]

Here's the actual quote, annalyzer:

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/search.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-05-10-0007.html

"Sooner or later, somebody's going to come back with a little piece that's going to fit into that puzzle like we need it," said Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison, who attended the celebration."

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

Welcome, Sara. Your first time posting on this board? :) [/*]

Yes Cardinal thanks. I have been reading all the posts and links for about a week.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 04:17 PM

Thank you for your answer Otterman!

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

Yes Cardinal thanks. I have been reading all the posts and links for about a week. [/*]

You'll eventually realize that nearly all of the posters on this board have been following this case for a long time, some since the very beginning. (Don't be misled by the nic of the day or the post count. :D ) And the opinions are strong.

But I like a fresh perspective, so I hope you'll stick around.

(Even when people are rude.)

JMO

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

You'll eventually realize that nearly all of the posters on this board have been following this case for a long time, some since the very beginning. (Don't be misled by the nic of the day or the post count. :D ) And the opinions are strong.

But I like a fresh perspective, so I hope you'll stick around.

(Even when people are rude.)

JMO [/*]

LOL Cardinal. I just ignore rudeness and emotion. Takes too much energy to respond for me. I hate unsolved mysteries and I hate it more when the victim is not found. At least Michelle's family has some closure. I sure hope they make an arrest soon.

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

You'll eventually realize that nearly all of the posters on this board have been following this case for a long time, some since the very beginning. (Don't be misled by the nic of the day or the post count. :D ) And the opinions are strong.

But I like a fresh perspective, so I hope you'll stick around.

(Even when people are rude.)

JMO [/*]

I agree cardinal, it is nice to hear a fresh persepective because i believe some of us have been following this case for so long that we cant see some things for just exactly what they are. I know ive been guilty of it and i am trying to look at this case from a different light.

Sara it would be great to hear your thoughts on this case up till this point that you have been reading.

sonya

05-18-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

Yes Cardinal thanks. I have been reading all the posts and links for about a week. [/*]

Hi SaraSidle and welcome.. Although you have just been reading a week, do you have an opinion as to who the murderer
is ? And, if so, can you say what the determining factor was in your decision ?
Thanks in advance

Justice for Michelle :rose:

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

As much as we try to see other perspectives, all roads seem to lead back to Brevard NC and Jason Young.

That is a fact. [/*]

No, that's your opinion. It may be an informed opinion, but it's not yet a fact.

JMO

sonya

05-18-2008, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

As much as we try to see other perspectives, all roads seem to lead back to Brevard NC and Jason Young.

That is a fact. [/*]

I think that Det. Spivey (in his respnse to Scouts e-mail) put the "Meredith is the perp" rumor to rest finally. His comment when asked about taking his family to the ladybug event was very insightful. He said he would never take his family anywhere that the people in attendance couldn't be trusted. And, since Linda and Meredith Fisher were the main people involved with that event, he obviously does not find Meredith a threat to anyone. jmo

Justice for Michelle :rose:

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by sonya
snip~

I think that Det. Spivey (in his respnse to Scouts e-mail) put the "Meredith is the perp" rumor to rest finally. His comment when asked about taking his family to the ladybug event was very insightful. He said he would never take his family anywhere that the people in attendance couldn't be trusted. [/*]

And yet Jason was expected to attend.

annalyzer

05-18-2008, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

Here's the actual quote, annalyzer:

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/search.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-05-10-0007.html

"Sooner or later, somebody's going to come back with a little piece that's going to fit into that puzzle like we need it," said Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison, who attended the celebration." [/*]

Sorry but that does not equal the direct quote stated above, quote~ " "just one more piece is needed", said Donnie Harrison last week end." ~end quote.

I don't believe it is allowed here to alter a direct quote from a LE official to read into it what one believes is meant by it. Direct quotes are also supposed to be supplied with a link to the quote.

Going out to enjoy this beautiful day. See you later!
:seeya:

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

And yet Jason was expected to attend. [/*]

I don't think Jason was expected to attend, annalyzer. In fact, I doubt his presence was even desired. I think everyone just wanted Cassidy there.

JMO

Hey Paula

05-18-2008, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

And yet Jason was expected to attend. [/*]

:eek: LOL! Did Jason read Scout's e-mail? :biggrin:

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

Sorry but that does not equal the direct quote stated above, quote~ " "just one more piece is needed", said Donnie Harrison last week end." ~end quote.

I don't believe it is allowed here to alter a direct quote from a LE official to read into it what one believes is meant by it. Direct quotes are also supposed to be supplied with a link to the quote.

Going out to enjoy this beautiful day. See you later!
:seeya: [/*]

Bye :seeya:

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Det Spivey (speaking of this forum + RU) :

"While other forums have, for some inexplicable reason, stooped to trashing a murder victim, her mother, and **her sister**, your forum seems to have remained above the fray. " [/*]

In the first place, you have no way of knowing or proving the forum(s) to which Investigator Spivey referred.

In the second place, the only persons being trashed here today (or for some time now) are other posters.

JMO

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 05:21 PM

If there are FACTS about any of the principals in the case, I support the free exchange of ideas and opinions about them. I am entitled to my opinions, as is everyone else on this board, whether or not anyone agrees with them. I try to afford others the same right. As long as anyone's opinions are appropriately expressed, I have no problem with them.

There have been many things posted on this board I didn't care for and disagreed with. I've said so, respectfully, I hope.

That's my humble opinion.

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 05:40 PM

I dont recall the detective using jasons name or even hinting that jason is being accused of anything in that email. As a matter of fact, his only response was about the victim and her family and speaking about his reasons for attending the ladybug liftoff. I thought his email was in good taste and if the DA has a problem with it i would be very surprised.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 05:40 PM

I find there are no real solid leads so far in this case. I would like to know a lot more information such as what are the opinions of their friends and neighbors about the relationship of Jason and Michelle. Also did anyone see a service person at the house that day? Plumber Electrician? Did the mailman or paperboy see any unusual vehicles in the driveway? If it was not Jason and someone close to them knew he was out of town what a perfect time to commit a crime. I do not find it strange that Jason was at a hotel and went to his mother's first. I do not find it strange he is staying with her now. I do not even find it strange if he was having an affair. The only thing I find strange at this point is the fact he has now worked with the police. But even that does not mean he is guilty. I am not saying he is innocent either. I have learned to always look at the spouse or intimate other first also. I just think we all need a lot more information to make any decisions and a lot of tension here is from the lack of info.

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle
I find there are no real solid leads so far in this case. I would like to know a lot more information such as what are the opinions of their friends and neighbors about the relationship of Jason and Michelle. Also did anyone see a service person at the house that day? Plumber Electrician? Did the mailman or paperboy see any unusual vehicles in the driveway? If it was not Jason and someone close to them knew he was out of town what a perfect time to commit a crime. I do not find it strange that Jason was at a hotel and went to his mother's first. I do not find it strange he is staying with her now. I do not even find it strange if he was having an affair. The only thing I find strange at this point is the fact he has now worked with the police. But even that does not mean he is guilty. I am not saying he is innocent either. I have learned to always look at the spouse or intimate other first also. I just think we all need a lot more information to make any decisions and a lot of tension here is from the lack of info. [/*]

Thank you, Sara, for posting this. And I agree, there is a lot of tension among those who have followed this so long, due to the lack of info and the lack of an arrest.

JMO

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

This board is not about you Cardinal. I was simply responding to your post that said "If there are FACTS about any of the principals in the case, I support the free exchange of ideas and opinions about them."

So now you are agreeing there are no facts that support the free exchange that MF is the murder suspect ? [/*]

No it's not about me.

And I think I'll take a break now, before I violate the TOS.

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

This board is not about you Cardinal. I was simply responding to your post that said "If there are FACTS about any of the principals in the case, I support the free exchange of ideas and opinions about them."

So now you are agreeing there are no facts that support the free exchange that MF is the murder suspect ? [/*]

Meredith found the body and made the 911 call. That is a fact, and that makes her a subject of discussion in this case.

JMO

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 06:30 PM

What is the TOD for Michelle and was there a weapon used and if so was it found at the scene?

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle
What is the TOD for Michelle and was there a weapon used and if so was it found at the scene? [/*]

I don't think an actual TOD has ever been given. A range of between midnight and 6 am is assumed by many.

I think the COD was blunt force trauma, and it has never been stated that the weapon was found.

JMO

sonya

05-18-2008, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by june1943

So are you saying that if Jason and Cassie had shown up he would have left? [/*]

June what I am saying is exactly what I posted and nothing more. If you get the idea that Jason Youngs' appearance at the
pre-Mothers Day event for Michelle would have caused the detectives to leave, go with it. I am not here to argue with you or anyone else, so please don't attempt a bait, I am not biting.

Justice for Michelle
:rose:

sonya

05-18-2008, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle
What is the TOD for Michelle and was there a weapon used and if so was it found at the scene? [/*]

There are very few facts known about this case, and what is known (search warrants) have only focused on the husband, Jason Young. In the 18+ months since this murder LE has kept their knowledge of evidence out of the media for the most part. JMO

Justice for Michelle :rose:

sonya

05-18-2008, 07:07 PM

SaraSidle-

Here are some links to articles regarding this case

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story_gallery/1065978/

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by sonya

There are very few facts known about this case, and what is known (search warrants) have only focused on the husband, Jason Young. In the 18+ months since this murder LE has kept their knowledge of evidence out of the media for the most part. JMO

Justice for Michelle :rose: [/*]

Very frustrating. I have no idea how we can expect to get anywhere. I hope they make an arrest soon. thanks Cardinal and sonya

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 07:16 PM

sonya

05-18-2008, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by agathachristie

Good point. Much to my chagrin in wanting to know all the details, I've always respected that LE has kept a tight lid on this case. It's all good, in the end , if there is any good in the midst of such a terrible tragedy. I am an impatient soul and this seems to be taking forever. Despite that, I have confidence that this will be solved and justice will be served.

MOO Aggie [/*]

I agree Aggie, it seems like we've been discussing it forever. That in itself is amazing considering the lack of facts available. Hopefully the answer is in the near future, and I will wait patiently as well for that day to arrive.

Justice for Michelle :rose:

sonya

05-18-2008, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

They can discuss that call all they want.
They can also not disrespect her by calling her the murderer when she is cleared by LE. [/*]

You are probably going to get flack for that last statement, but I agree, unofficially to me she has been cleared. With the Detectives response to Scouts' e-mail, that was made apparent, in my opinion.

Justice for Michelle :rose:

sonya

05-18-2008, 07:46 PM

Honestly, if it turns out to be someone other than Jason Young responsible for Michelles murder I would be absolutely relieved. There is no worse scenario than Michelles own husband and father of her murdered baby being responsible. Despite what the JII's say I believe that everyone here hopes it WONT be him and all we all want is the damn perp caught. If there were evidence pointing to anyone else, I have not seen it and I am not sure there is any. We will all see in the end, and when justice is served it will be a great day. JMO

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 07:57 PM

I find it odd that a mallet is found in the front yard after she is murdered from blunt trauma. I would also like to know who belongs to the hair found in Michelle's hand. I am also sure that LE is keeping that and a lot of stuff secret and I totally understand also.

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 08:00 PM

maybe we can all be in agreement here right now, even though all of the regulars arent here, but maybe the ones that are here could have a pact, no matter what your stance is on this case, no bashing of anyone involved. Meaning, if you think JY did it, fine but no name calling and silly remarks that bait the JII's. And vice versa about Michelles family.

ill be the first to raise my hand in and my glass in this truce.

:beer: :seeya:

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by jerzeegirl
maybe we can all be in agreement here right now, even though all of the regulars arent here, but maybe the ones that are here could have a pact, no matter what your stance is on this case, no bashing of anyone involved. Meaning, if you think JY did it, fine but no name calling and silly remarks that bait the JII's. And vice versa about Michelles family.

ill be the first to raise my hand in and my glass in this truce.

:beer: :seeya: [/*]

:beer: I'm all for that.

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by agathachristie

Yes, I saw that, but discounted it considering the source.
The tone of the discussion here has changed.
It's showing shades of posting in the early days, which is a good thing.
If it returns to those kinds of posts then the downward spiral begins and I will depart.

MOO Aggie [/*]

i totally agree aggie and also about what you said about not wanting it to be JY who did this. I do not want CY to lose another parent. Id much rather it be a stranger that did this. But no matter who, i want them to be caught. Even if it is jason, justice needs to be served.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 08:17 PM

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

Thats all that a lot of the posters that have been banned were doing. Standing their ground for Michelle. [/*]

I understand that. But like it or not, there are TOS here that you have to abide by. It isn't always easy. I took a break earlier because I'd been pushed to the limit. Sometimes walking away is necessary.

Those who do, live to fight another day. :biggrin:

JMO

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by alter ego
Is there a credible link to Meredith being cleared? [/*]

No, AE, there isn't. It's an inference drawn from Investigator Spivey's email.

Technically, everyone is still a suspect.

:)

alter ego

05-18-2008, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

Thats all that a lot of the posters that have been banned were doing. Standing their ground for Michelle. [/*]No, they were bashing this board and it's moderator.

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle
I find it odd that a mallet is found in the front yard after she is murdered from blunt trauma. I would also like to know who belongs to the hair found in Michelle's hand. I am also sure that LE is keeping that and a lot of stuff secret and I totally understand also. [/*]

IIRC, LE determined that the mallet was not connected to the murder. And we'd all like to know about the hair, but nothing has ever been said about it.

JMO

Cardinal

05-18-2008, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
And the husband has a alibi that LE can NOT break or he would have been arrested. Now what? [/*]

Now, I guess, we wait. Some more.

JMO

Barbara2

05-18-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
And the husband has a alibi that LE can NOT break or he would have been arrested. Now what? [/*]

Knowing that a person had an opportunity to commit the crime is not enough evidence to convict that person. IMO

forpsystudent

05-18-2008, 08:34 PM

Actually Cardinal I am heartened to know that the detectives in this case don't approve of and/or appreciate victim bashing, regardless of what forum has allowed it or disallowed it.

JMO

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 08:36 PM

I know what you said about the mallet but I am not buying it all the way. Waay too coincidental IMO

forpsystudent

05-18-2008, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

And at least twice that many who would disagree with anything posted that paints Jason in a positive light.

If you're going to call it, you should call it both ways.

JMO [/*]

I think Jason Young is as quilty (and conscious of it to boot IMO) as the day is long. I don't have to beg anyone's pardon for that opinion by calling anything both ways. If it's diplomacy you seek you're in the wrong place.

JMOOC

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Oh I'm sorry i wasn't baiting. You made it sound like Mere couldn't be guilty because other wise LE wouldn't be there. I just wondered what would have happened if Jason showed up with Cassie I understood he was invited. [/*]

Not because LE showed up and Meredith was there, but to give her a hug and see pictures of them smiling while talking is what tells me that she is not a suspect in LE's eyes. Yes i know, some people think that LE can put on an act in some cases, but i just dont see that here. If LE is so emotionally involved as stated, i dont think they would sit there chit chatting with smiles on their faces. Maybe a simple hand shake and "how ya'll doin?" would be it if they thought she had a hand in this murder. Yes this is all IMO but the ladybug liftoff spoke volumes to me and scouts letter.

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

If anyone has any info that could shed a "positive light" on Jason, I would really love to know about it.

MO [/*]

well id have to say the positive light that i see for jason right now is that he is IUPG. We arent held to that on a IS forum but in a court of law we are. I will not bash him nor call him names but if he did this to his wife, he needs to pay dearly for it. 18 months is long enough no matter who did this to her.

sonya

05-18-2008, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by agathachristie

I think I can speak for the people that think the husband did it.
Nary a one will take delight in his arrest.
It's all bad and all sad, especially for the little girl.
I foresee no celebration, nor the fact that justice is served as a great day.
It will be a day to ponder what the worst of human nature is capable of.
It will be a sad day.

MOO Aggie [/*]

For those who loved Michelle, like her mom and sis, the day the perp is caught I would think will be a great day. To go all these many months with no one to answer for the crime I assume would be unbearable. The anger that must build and build for one thing, intolerable. That is where I am coming from with my comment "it will be a great day". The day to ponder "what the worst of human nature is capable of" was Nov 3 2006 jmo

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

JY is not the victim.
He killed her [/*]Where's the proof?

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

Well, alot of posters got banned for standing their ground for Michelle and her family. ( ???? )

:confused: [/*]No, they were banned for bashing this forum and it's moderator.

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by june1943

I don't think any one ever got banned for standing their ground for anybody. People were banned for being rude and calling other posters bad names. I saw one night where they were even calling CW bad names. We are better off without them they brought nothing to the conversation that I could see. [/*]Absolutely.

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

If anyone has any info that could shed a "positive light" on Jason, I would really love to know about it.

MO [/*]No one has said anything negative about him. Except some anon posters on a message board :shrug:

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

Absolutely. The Scott Peterson case was based, almost solely, on Circumstantial Evidence. [/*]It was 100% CE, as are most cases.

sonya

05-18-2008, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Fireflies_3

True BUT Michelle needs to be shown some respect from Jason if hes innocent come forward speak out so LE can look in a different direction. [/*]

You have to wonder what JY is thinking, first not to talk to LE at the start of their investigation, then to (according to tv interview with Linda Fisher) keep his daughter from her grandmother all these many months. These actions have put him in a bad light with many and it is understandable. The request of Meredith to go to his home and retrieve a document from his printer really made me think something was terribly wrong with this picture, it looked like he sent her to discover the body and to rescue his daughter from the murder scene. And, finally all the search warrants focusing on him and him alone pretty much summed it up for me. Don't get me wrong, I would hope whoever did this would be caught and that it would not be JY, but as I say, it doesn't look good for him, jmo

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Well some of your post I agree with some I don't even know what it means. LOL If Jason killed Michelle he should be punished . Any one that kills anybody should be punished. I would only excuse murder if someones life was in danger and that sure wasn't the case here. I just don't see how Jason did it. I'm stuck on the to small to be Jason shoe print and where is the jewelry? LE may have answers to this things but I don't. [/*]

what part of my post do you not know what i mean?

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by june1943

The IUPG I have no idea what that means. Must be my age. LOL [/*]

oh sorry lol.....Innocent Until Proven Guilty
:)

alter ego

05-18-2008, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Hate to break it to you HS, CE can be very powerful.
In addition , you have no idea what forensics the cops have in this case. I think when you find out what the cops had on JY all this time w/o an arrest, even you will be :eek: [/*]And you have no idea what FE the cops have either.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by sonya

You have to wonder what JY is thinking, first not to talk to LE at the start of their investigation, then to (according to tv interview with Linda Fisher) keep his daughter from her grandmother all these many months. These actions have put him in a bad light with many and it is understandable. The request of Meredith to go to his home and retrieve a document from his printer really made me think something was terribly wrong with this picture, it looked like he sent her to discover the body and to rescue his daughter from the murder scene. And, finally all the search warrants focusing on him and him alone pretty much summed it up for me. Don't get me wrong, I would hope whoever did this would be caught and that it would not be JY, but as I say, it doesn't look good for him, jmo [/*]

Sonya when I first heard it sent Meredith over there I thought the same thing also. Very suspicious!!!! IMO

jerzeegirl

05-18-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by alter ego
And you have no idea what FE the cops have either. [/*]

i agree with that but.....
If there was FE evidence that is from an unknown person, i would think they wouldnt have search warrants for JY's home/s. An unknown fingerprint, hair, dna could clear him. The absence of an unknowns dna, hair, fingerprint is a very clean crime scene. Unlikely but not impossible. And if JY's dna, hair, fingerprints are there, it wouldnt be unusual. Therefore, forensic evidence of Jasons, would hardly lead to his arrest.

alter ego

05-18-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Did I say I did ?

Why do you always argue with other posters ? [/*]Then what did you mean by "when you find out what the cops had on JY all this time w/o an arrest, even you will be :eek: " if you weren't trying to intimate that you know what they have?

alter ego

05-18-2008, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by jerzeegirl

i agree with that but.....
If there was FE evidence that is from an unknown person, i would think they wouldnt have search warrants for JY's home/s. An unknown fingerprint, hair, dna could clear him. The absence of an unknowns dna, hair, fingerprint is a very clean crime scene. Unlikely but not impossible. And if JY's dna, hair, fingerprints are there, it wouldnt be unusual. Therefore, forensic evidence of Jasons, would hardly lead to his arrest. [/*]Unknowns would not necessarily clear him, the circumstances of how those unknowns came to be at the crime scene would have to be determined first.

sonya

05-18-2008, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

Sonya when I first heard it sent Meredith over there I thought the same thing also. Very suspicious!!!! IMO [/*]

There just hasn't been much said about Jason that has made him look much like a loving, dedicated husband. IMO And, the way she was killed (overkill, and hit above the shoulder, concentrating on her face and head) has been described by some as a "personal" killing. Also, going by the search warrants LE has not been investigating anyone outside of JY, evidently they didn't find any foreign DNA in that bedroom. No evidence is evidence is what has been said when crimes are committed in the home and no one elses DNA is found. I realize not all the evidence is back from Lab, and we are not privy to it either way, but the
lack of SW's for anyone but Jason speaks volumes IMO

alter ego

05-18-2008, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Thats ok like I said must be the age. We are getting a storm so I am shutting down for now . G nite all [/*]Be safe june!

alter ego

05-18-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Your point was FE.
Move on please. [/*]And that is what you were talking about, too.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by sonya

There just hasn't been much said about Jason that has made him look much like a loving, dedicated husband. IMO And, the way she was killed (overkill, and hit above the shoulder, concentrating on her face and head) has been described by some as a "personal" killing. Also, going by the search warrants LE has not been investigating anyone outside of JY, evidently they didn't find any foreign DNA in that bedroom. No evidence is evidence is what has been said when crimes are committed in the home and no one elses DNA is found. I realize not all the evidence is back from Lab, and we are not privy to it either way, but the
lack of SW's for anyone but Jason speaks volumes IMO [/*]

Yes I agree it was personal Sonya but what if it was a man who wanted Michelle other than Jason and she rejected him. That would be personal also. That also could point to the reasons for the warrants. And why did they not perform a sexual assault kit
at the autopsy. The ME refused!?!?!?! what is up with that?

IMO

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

Yes I agree it was personal Sonya but what if it was a man who wanted Michelle other than Jason and she rejected him. That would be personal also. That also could point to the reasons for the warrants. And why did they not perform a sexual assault kit
at the autopsy. The ME refused!?!?!?! what is up with that?

IMO [/*]

I am not saying JY did not do it but I am not ready to find him guilty either.

alter ego

05-18-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle

Yes I agree it was personal Sonya but what if it was a man who wanted Michelle other than Jason and she rejected him. That would be personal also. That also could point to the reasons for the warrants. And why did they not perform a sexual assault kit
at the autopsy. The ME refused!?!?!?! what is up with that?

IMO [/*]I don't think the ME refused, he just neglected to do it.

SaraSidle

05-18-2008, 11:35 PM

Considering she was murdered I think a sexual assault kit has to be done and there maybe be DNA. The new article I read said he refused. I cannot find the link because I have read too many links and I thought it was strange when I read it. IMO

Hey Paula

05-18-2008, 11:49 PM

oakayfine

05-18-2008, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by SaraSidle
Considering she was murdered I think a sexual assault kit has to be done and there maybe be DNA. The new article I read said he refused. I cannot find the link because I have read too many links and I thought it was strange when I read it. IMO [/*]

Then I guess this "refusal" for the sexual assault kit test can only be considered "rumor" as all other posters have stated with every other poster who could not provide a link.

There was no "refusal" byt ME to do an SA test. It was an oversight ... according to every article I have read. IMO.

Hey Paula

05-19-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by agathachristie

I know the post is CW's. I was thinking there is more than one CW, as I distinctly recall the old post about using the girl's proper name. [/*]

Hi Aggie!

Although I don't recall that post specifically, CW does require posters to use people's proper names, and doesn't permit them to be altered or abbreviated to convey a derogatory meaning. It's been my experience that CW consistently warns against this on forums across this MB.

oakayfine

05-19-2008, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Hey Paula

Hi Aggie!

Although I don't recall that post specifically, CW does require posters to use people's proper names, and doesn't permit them to be altered or abbreviated to convey a derogatory meaning. It's been my experience that CW consistently warns against this on forums across this MB. [/*]

For some reason ... this one does seem to be different. not sure why. IMO.

The derrogoratory comments on this particular thread seems a lot different than any of the otheres I have posted on and/or lurked on.

I post sparingly ... especially with this one.

SaraSidle

05-19-2008, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Hey Paula

Is this the link/article?

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/571083.html [/*]

You are very good Paula. That is exactly the link. LE requested it and he did not do it. And it could have led to more FE such as DNA. Thank you so much for finding that and so quickly!!!!!!

annalyzer

05-19-2008, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Otterman

A hand full of posters here have tried their best to vilify the victim's innocent sister in this case. Most other cases and board topics don't involve such a scenario. Totally uncalled for imo [/*]

Well I haven't seen anyone do that today so why do you keep bringing it up?

And it is your opinion that she is innocent. Others have a right to think differently and express their opinions. As of yet LE has not ruled anyone out as being a suspect. Even if they did people can still think what they wish.

SaraSidle

05-19-2008, 01:08 AM

Well that is good info to know

jerzeegirl

05-19-2008, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by FaithHope

Did you see the email from Detective Spivey that Scout shared with us?

His words regarding the bashing of Meredith and Linda Fisher, confirm that Meredith is an innocent sister to the murder victim, Michelle Young.

Meredith has been cleared. She is not a suspect. [/*]

i think youre right faith, thats pretty much what most people think after reading the email and what we saw in pictures at the ladybug liftoff. Common sense tells me this, LE doesnt have to hold a PC to figure it out. I understand NOBODY has been cleared but i think we have seen from day one who LE thinks did it, I havent been served any search warrants, am i cleared? I believe MF has been cleared, LE's actions and words lead me to believe that.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 01:18 AM

annalyzer

05-19-2008, 01:18 AM

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by jerzeegirl

i think youre right faith, thats pretty much what most people think after reading the email and what we saw in pictures at the ladybug liftoff. Common sense tells me this, LE doesnt have to hold a PC to figure it out. I understand NOBODY has been cleared but i think we have seen from day one who LE thinks did it, I havent been served any search warrants, am i cleared? I believe MF has been cleared, LE's actions and words lead me to believe that. [/*]

Why are you so worried about MF being a suspect? She's no different than Jason. If she's innocent, she's got nothing to worry about, right? But being a suspect shouldn't surprise her or anybody else.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

I think MM, Meredith and the GA friend are in the clear.
JMO [/*]

why do you think that?

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

Because they haven't lawyered up and refused to speak to LE. [/*]

How do you know that about the GA friend? I've never seen LE mention her name at all or whether she cooperated, lawyered up. Nothing so far.

Leanne Weich

05-19-2008, 01:34 AM

A perfect example of a CE case which resulted in a 1st degree murder conviction.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=327000

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
A perfect example of a CE case which resulted in a 1st degree murder conviction.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=327000 [/*]

Many examples available because most cases are CE cases.

Leanne Weich

05-19-2008, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Celiarun

Many examples available because most cases are CE cases. [/*]

I know but many people seem to have a problem with CE being enough for a conviction.

alter ego

05-19-2008, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Otterman

Since we KNOW MF is not a suspect , is GA friend your new target ? [/*]'we' don't KNOW any such thing. LE said that no one has been ruled out. Your opinions don't trump their official word.

alter ego

05-19-2008, 09:05 AM

alter ego

05-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Otterman

Noted action among 3 LE officers speaks louder than words ;) [/*]No it does not. Official word is just that and your opinions of anyone's 'noted action' doesn't trump anything.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by alter ego
No it does not. Official word is just that and your opinions of anyone's 'noted action' doesn't trump anything. [/*]

"Off the record" isn't official but I certainly think it carries more weight than "since I haven't read it in the newspaper it must not be true."

alter ego

05-19-2008, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Barbara2

"Off the record" isn't official but I certainly think it carries more weight than "since I haven't read it in the newspaper it must not be true." [/*]Not when the 'noted action' is only someone's opinion of what the action was or what it means. Words certainly have been misconstrued, no reason to think 'noted action' hasn't been either.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Otterman

As much as we try to see other perspectives, all roads seem to lead back to Brevard NC and Jason Young.

That is a fact. [/*]

Most people have never looked at anyone but Jason.
But, I like surprise endings.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by FaithHope

If anyone has any info that could shed a "positive light" on Jason, I would really love to know about it.

MO [/*]

I guess you will have to wait until trial.

:)

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:25 AM

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Otterman

Since we KNOW MF is not a suspect , is GA friend your new target ? [/*]

I don't know any such thing, so , again don't include me in the "we"...

Fact.

No one has been publicly cleared or arrested.
What goes on beind the scenes is another thing.
The investigation should be held to a proper and private standing.
L E should know if a poster is claiming to know more than they should.
It could hurt the investigation they have so tightly guarded to this point.

Kat

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Coldwater
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Fireflies_3

So i guess if they can call her MERE we can call Jason..... JAY-JAY [/*]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FaithHope
Member

or Booty Boy.
*******************************************

Of course you can after you prove he has been called that by friends and family - otherwise the remarks above are just childish. [/*]

I remember when this issue came up last year and I believe it was determined that only given names or initials were to be used. That avoids the issue of those who are not close friends or family using nicknames which can seem disrespectful.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Leanne Weich

I know but many people seem to have a problem with CE being enough for a conviction. [/*]

CE can be the most powerful means for conviction, but in this crime where there was so much evidence was supposedly left behind, there should have been a sure and quick arrest,

To need any part of this puzzle after all this time, means it just did not play out to be Jason.

As far as LE in Brevard, take a pic of them , there would be your credible unbroken undeniable link.

Otherwise,it is simply discounted in the rumor room.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Fireflies_3

Well where in the world is the proof her family and friends has called her" MERE"? [/*]

Mere used it as her own nicname..
It was posted here that C called her Auntie Mere by a friend.
Mere is short for Meredith, it is not a derogatory use of the name by any means.
But, I will differ to the Board and let you argue it out.

Kat

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Mere used it as her own nicname..
It was posted here that C called her Auntie Mere by a friend.
Mere is short for Meredith, it is not a derogatory use of the name by any means.
But, I will differ to the Board and let you argue it out.

Kat [/*]

Meredith has never posted here to my knowledge and has never given anyone permission to use a name that might be reserved for family and friends. I guess maybe it's the way that I was raised but I don't think it's appropriate. My family calls me "Barb" but I don't like it when anyone else shortens my name in that way. I always tell them that I prefer Barbara. To me it is rude to shorten a name unless the individual gives that permission.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Barbara2

Meredith has never posted here to my knowledge and has never given anyone permission to use a name that might be reserved for family and friends. I guess maybe it's the way that I was raised but I don't think it's appropriate. My family calls me "Barb" but I don't like it when anyone else shortens my name in that way. I always tell them that I prefer Barbara. To me it is rude to shorten a name unless the individual gives that permission. [/*]

My nic~name for Katrina Gia is Kat, everyone has called me Kat since I was 2- 3.

Just a nic~name, and has no importance to the Michelle Young case, therefore I am moving on..

:)

Kat

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Coldwater

And it was changed when it was determined she called herself that name. [/*]

I was under the impression that she used Meredita on her MySpace page. I have some family members that call me "grandma" and I have used that on web pages that are public but I wouldn't like it if posters here called me "grandma". I just think that it would be so much simpler to ask that all posters use given names or initials rather than get into the whole argument over whether different people being discussed like a nickname being used or don't like a nickname being use. IMO

sonya

05-19-2008, 12:01 PM

I think what happened was that a while back a certain poster who was posting about Meredith in a derogatory way and being very sarcastic about it began referring to Meredith as "mere". It angered many because this person kept it up, while making many, many disparaging remarks about her and quoting things the poster had read on Merediths' myspace page before it was set to "private". It seemed very disrespectful to most here and although it was made clear to that poster that "mere" was a term people who knew Meredith and were her friend used as a term of endearment, and that the poster was not a friend or relative of hers, and the poster continually posted mean and hurtful things about her while refering to her as "mere". I hope this makes sense, just trying to help here.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:01 PM

Hello
Does anyone know how Cassie got from Brevard to the Memorial last weekend? Did her grandma or aunt Meredith go pick her up or did a Young family member or JY bring her?

People state that the Fisher's had not seen Cassie in about 18 months? I wonder if JY wants to make sure Michelle's family stays close to her as the case gets thicker?

Any opinions or facts?

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

I have never seen any such thing. [/*]

I have but it may have been swooshed with a lot of others.

Maybe we could get back to the case?

Who are these people that are saying L E is in Brevard?

Does L E know that they have been seen?

I guess they are not undercover then, cause if they were, then no one could know where they are from.

So, they are actually visible WCSO there?

Does Donnie know this is being posted here?

Kat

Hey Paula

05-19-2008, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Mere used it as her own nicname..
It was posted here that C called her Auntie Mere by a friend.
Mere is short for Meredith, it is not a derogatory use of the name by any means.
But, I will differ to the Board and let you argue it out.

Kat [/*]

Kat,

I hope you can understand why some of the posters take offense to Meredith consistently being called "Mere". Because the word "mere" can have a derogatory meaning, it can be viewed as offensive when used by those who have suggested Meredith murdered her sister, and have poked fun at her and scrutinized every word in response to the 911 operator, after having been confronted with an unimaginable situation and horrific scene.

There is a huge difference when a nickname is used by someone who views that person affectionately vs it being used by those who view the person such as I've described above. If it causes strife on this board, may I suggest that we all use everyone's given name when discussing this case?

IMO

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by fanny_mae

I happen to know that Meredith does not appreciate the usage of Mere on this message board by people who insinuate she murdered her sister. Rather than come out an just say it, the folks here who know this, from Meredith, tried to be delicate and use the TOS and previous posts to keep the name "Mere" from being used.

As usual, the TOS are twisted to suit the JII's. [/*]

Well, unless you are on the road to getting the Board shut down, maybe we can go another route.

I really don't care what anyone calls her,now, if they used the name "Mare", to refer to a horse, that would be rude.

But to shorten someone's given name is not insulting.

Can we get over it, now?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by smack_down

Once we clear things up here.

I happen to know as well that Meredith doesn't want to be called Mere. It needs to stop. [/*]

Everyone close to Michelle is being looked at.
Everyone close to Michelle is a suspect.

That has not changed..not even with all the visible troops or Swat teams in Brevard,

Kat

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by smack_down

Once we clear things up here.

I happen to know as well that Meredith doesn't want to be called Mere. It needs to stop. [/*]

amen.... this subject is not on the topic and is totally overworked and overspoken.
I second that motion.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Everyone close to Michelle is being looked at.
Everyone close to Michelle is a suspect.

That has not changed..not even with all the visible troops or Swat teams in Brevard,

Kat [/*]

Not everyone. If it is not possible that a person was there and/or could have commited the crime, they are not being looked at. IMO

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

snipped
Who are these people that are saying L E is in Brevard?

Does L E know that they have been seen?

I guess they are not undercover then, cause if they were, then no one could know where they are from.

So, they are actually visible WCSO there?

Does Donnie know this is being posted here?

Kat [/*]

Hello Kat
So, if there are investigations on this case in Brevard.... and I know you don't want to believe that JY could have committed these crimes, as many don't.... why do you think the LE is in Brevard and who would they be investigating if JY is not the " unnamed as of yet" suspect?
Just wondering....

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC

Hello Kat
So, if there are investigations on this case in Brevard.... and I know you don't want to believe that JY could have committed these crimes, as many don't.... why do you think the LE is in Brevard and who would they be investigating if JY is not the " unnamed as of yet" suspect?
Just wondering.... [/*]

Because I don't believe for a moment that they are there.

:)

Kat

sonya

05-19-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Well, unless you are on the road to getting the Board shut down, maybe we can go another route.

I really don't care what anyone calls her,now, if they used the name "Mare", to refer to a horse, that would be rude.

But to shorten someone's given name is not insulting.

Can we get over it, now?

Kat [/*]

Kat in my post just a few above this I explained why it is angering so many posters. I did not name names, because I felt that would be wrong. But, I am pretty sure you know that you are one of the main posters that were using the name "mere" while you were continually and consistently posting derogatory and just plain mean things about Meredith. This started quite a while back, and I think the posts have been deleted but anyone who has been following this case and reads here has read them. There was quite a discussion between you and the other posters about using this name and although you were asked to stop you continued on. It seemed so wrong because you were not only not a friend or acquaintance of hers, but you were talking about her terribly and insinuating alot of awful things in a sarcastic/hurtful way. It would be so easy just to agree to stop using the name "mere" and stop with the sarcastic and demeaning comments about Meredith wouldn't it ? She has been thru hell since the day she found her sister murdered and she really hasn't been the focus of any search warrants so to call her a murderer doesn't seem right either. Hope this helps

fiver

05-19-2008, 12:23 PM

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Because I don't believe for a moment that they are there.

:)

Kat [/*]

I am asking you hypothetically.....
see below
So, IF there are investigations on this case in Brevard.... and I know you don't want to believe that JY could have committed these crimes, as many don't.... why do you think the LE is in Brevard and who would they be investigating if JY is not the " unnamed as of yet" suspect?

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Coldwater is the moderator on this form and makes the ultimate decisions when posters can NOT agree. To argue with her on this open board is showing her disrespect IMO.
Many of you have stated she shows sides and only the JDI are made to post by the rules. NO SO!!! I was just put on time out last week and no one heard me whining and I did not disrespect coldwater for doing her job.
Who else would do her job? No one in their right mind. She makes the decision whether we agree or disagree. Show her some respect.
Thank you CW for being fair and open minded if I fall victim to you you have always been fair...HC:rose: to get you through the day. [/*]

Morning, HI~C.!!
CW already gave the verdict on this one.
She said the name was acceptable.
Case closed.

I think she is getting a headache over something so trivial.

So, these troops moving in on Jason?

Where do they sit, outside his home?

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

I tell ya what Kat, save everyone the trouble and start using her correct name and the point will be moot

K ? [/*]You are not the moderator. The moderator has spoken. If you don't like her rules, then you can go post somewhere else instead of making a mockery of the rules set forth by the moderator of this board.

:seeya:

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Morning, HI~C.!!
CW already gave the verdict on this one.
She said the name was acceptable.
Case closed.

I think she is getting a headache over something so trivial.

So, these troops moving in on Jason?

Where do they sit, outside his home?

Kat [/*]

How difficult is it to type out "Meredith"? You've been told by many that it is offensive to use the shortened version of her name. If the purpose of this board is to communicate ideas, doesn't it make sense to you that it is best to not continue to do something that is so offensive to many and makes you appear contentious?

fiver

05-19-2008, 12:32 PM

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:35 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WonderingInSC

I am asking you hypothetically.....
see below
So, IF there are investigations on this case in Brevard.... and I know you don't want to believe that JY could have committed these crimes, as many don't.... why do you think the LE is in Brevard and who would they be investigating if JY is not the " unnamed as of yet" suspect? [/*][/QUOTE

Without confirmation, hard to say.
They could be there hypothetically to protect someone too..

But, they are not there.
I know some people want them to be , but this isn't how it works.

This isn't the SP case, where Jason has tried to change his appearance or flee to the Border.

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

How difficult is it to type out "Meredith"? You've been told by many that it is offensive to use the shortened version of her name. If the purpose of this board is to communicate ideas, doesn't it make sense to you that it is best to not continue to do something that is so offensive to many and makes you appear contentious? [/*]It's offensive to see Jason called a murderer when he hasn't even been charged with any crime, yet posters do that on a frequent basis. It's offensive to see Jason called an assortment of names besides "Jason", yet posters do that on a frequent basis.

:shrug:

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by fiver
It's offensive to see Jason called a murderer when he hasn't even been charged with any crime, yet posters do that on a frequent basis. It's offensive to see Jason called an assortment of names besides "Jason", yet posters do that on a frequent basis.

[/*]

So if the very simple rule of "only use given names or initials" were applied, that would take care of the name issue for anyone involved in the case. I can't speak to the referring to him as a "murderer" issue. Meredith has been referred to as quite a few negative things as well but that's not the issue we're discussing right now.

sonya

05-19-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by fiver
You are not the moderator. The moderator has spoken. If you don't like her rules, then you can go post somewhere else instead of making a mockery of the rules set forth by the moderator of this board.

:seeya: [/*]

Hi fiver :) No one here seems at all to be making a mockery of the moderator, Coldwater, not that I can see at least. Posters feel that Kat has made a mockery of Meredith by calling her a name that is used by her family and friends while making disparaging and venomous comments about her. I don't think Coldwater has been shown any of the posts we are talking about, the very mean and hurtful posts about Meredith
that were posted by Kat while she was referring to her as "mere" in a sarcastic manner. Those may have been deleted
I am not too sure about that. Thats all, no disrespect towards Coldwater that I can see, it's not even about the moderator, its about the posts that Kat has made about the victims sister in this case all the while sarcastically calling her
"mere" as if she is a friend of hers. It seems simple to me, since Meredith has not really been the focus of any search warrants, to call her a murderer and "mere" at the same time doesn't seem right and I am sure it is painful to Michelles mother to have her surviving daughter referred to in this manner.

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

How difficult is it to type out "Meredith"? You've been told by many that it is offensive to use the shortened version of her name. If the purpose of this board is to communicate ideas, doesn't it make sense to you that it is best to not continue to do something that is so offensive to many and makes you appear contentious? [/*]

I seem to remember a lot of posters referring to Jason as booty-boy, that must have been ok though, I seem to remember that it was said his "friends" called him that in college so it was ok. I could be mistaken though of course.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Everyone close to Michelle is being looked at.
Everyone close to Michelle is a suspect.

That has not changed..not even with all the visible troops or Swat teams in Brevard,

Kat [/*]

Everyone gets upset and feels loss when a member of the family passes on - no matter how they die.

Linda and Meredith are still grieving, mourning and having memorials for Michelle....
We all know people who have passed on - how many families do you know that hold memorials for the deceased one's birthday, love for Ladybugs, an Arbor memorial....the annual date of her death... they keep holding events to support one another, friends and family for their loss.
You say "everyone close to Michelle is a suspect"....
I can say from reading all the articles, hearing about the support the LE gives the family for the events they plan, these two women are not on the "maybe" suspects list. They love/loved Michelle way too much to even think about hurting, much less murdering her. JMO

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by fiver
It's offensive to see Jason called a murderer when he hasn't even been charged with any crime, yet posters do that on a frequent basis. It's offensive to see Jason called an assortment of names besides "Jason", yet posters do that on a frequent basis.

:shrug: [/*]

Standards should apply across the Board on both sides.
How it is okay to call Jason a murderer, unfaithful, a slacker, being judged for everything he says or does, to the clothes he wears, to the sunglasses he has on, to the maps in his car. is okay and acceptable but to call Meredith ,Mere is not?

If the Board will show the came courtesy on Jason, then I can speak for the JII's and say we will refrain from the same name calling or abbreviated names that offend you as well.

But, that is never going to happen, so let's back to the LE in Brevard?

TIA

Katrina

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by JD1974

I seem to remember a lot of posters referring to Jason as booty-boy, that must have been ok though, I seem to remember that it was said his "friends" called him that in college so it was ok. I could be mistaken though of course. [/*]

If you have read all of my posts, you would see that I'm asking for a simple rule to be applied across the board to avoid exactly that. I'm not asking for either "side" be be treated differently.

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by sonya

Hi fiver :) No one here seems at all to be making a mockery of the moderator, Coldwater, not that I can see at least. Posters feel that Kat has made a mockery of Meredith by calling her a name that is used by her family and friends while making disparaging and venomous comments about her. I don't think Coldwater has been shown any of the posts we are talking about, the very mean and hurtful posts about Meredith
that were posted by Kat while she was referring to her as "mere" in a sarcastic manner. Those may have been deleted
I am not too sure about that. Thats all, no disrespect towards Coldwater that I can see, it's not even about the moderator, its about the posts that Kat has made about the victims sister in this case all the while sarcastically calling her
"mere" as if she is a friend of hers. It seems simple to me, since Meredith has not really been the focus of any search warrants, to call her a murderer and "mere" at the same time doesn't seem right and I am sure it is painful to Michelles mother to have her surviving daughter referred to in this manner. [/*]

Kat isn't the only one that uses that nickname, why single her out? I have seen at least 3 or 4 posters refer to her as Mere. I don't think I have ever posted her name any way, well until now.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

So if the very simple rule of "only use given names or initials" were applied, that would take care of the name issue for anyone involved in the case. I can't speak to the referring to him as a "murderer" issue. Meredith has been referred to as quite a few negative things as well but that's not the issue we're discussing right now. [/*]

I would think using her initials would be much more offensive.

Katrina

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by JD1974

Kat isn't the only one that uses that nickname, why single her out? I have seen at least 3 or 4 posters refer to her as Mere. I don't think I have ever posted her name any way, well until now. [/*]

why can't anyone STOP talking about this issue that has nothing to do with the case. I keep asking questions, trying to get back on the topic and somehow some of you just won't let that go...
move on! pretty please!

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

If you have read all of my posts, you would see that I'm asking for a simple rule to be applied across the board to avoid exactly that. I'm not asking for either "side" be be treated differently. [/*]

Sorry Barbara I wasn't meaning you when I quoted your post, yours just seemed to be the most decent post so I used it. I honestly don't think using the name Mere is horrible, maybe it is just me. I don't see it as being in the same league as say booty-boy or some of the other things Jason has been called, some of those are truly derogatory.

sonya

05-19-2008, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Everyone close to Michelle is being looked at.
Everyone close to Michelle is a suspect.

That has not changed..not even with all the visible troops or Swat teams in Brevard,

Kat [/*]

Everyone gets upset and feels loss when a member of the family passes on - no matter how they die.

Linda and Meredith are still grieving, mourning and having memorials for Michelle....
We all know people who have passed on - how many families do you know that hold memorials for the deceased one's birthday, love for Ladybugs, an Arbor memorial....the annual date of her death... they keep holding events to support one another, friends and family for their loss.
You say "everyone close to Michelle is a suspect"....
I can say from reading all the articles, hearing about the support the LE gives the family for the events they plan, these two women are not on the "maybe" suspects list. They love/loved Michelle way too much to even think about hurting, much less murdering her. JMO [/*]

This is an excellent post Suzanne, you have made the point so well and so compassionately. Thank You !!

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by JD1974

Sorry Barbara I wasn't meaning you when I quoted your post, yours just seemed to be the most decent post so I used it. I honestly don't think using the name Mere is horrible, maybe it is just me. I don't see it as being in the same league as say booty-boy or some of the other things Jason has been called, some of those are truly derogatory. [/*]

We were told today that we can't use any nicknames for Jason. So far Meredith seems to be the only one who can be called by her nickname by strangers on a message board. At least that's what it seemed that we were being told.

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Jason Young is the focus of the investigation and the suspect in his wife's murder.

Meredith Fisher is the innocent sister of the victim

Bashing the innocent family with sarcasm is OT.

BTW, it is also inappropriate to refer to Pat Young as "Ma Pat" [/*]

I don't usually use any names except Jason or Michelle, so I am the wrong person to ask.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC

why can't anyone STOP talking about this issue that has nothing to do with the case. I keep asking questions, trying to get back on the topic and somehow some of you just won't let that go...
move on! pretty please! [/*]

I am trying!!
At this moment we have helicopters swooshing over in Brevard ready to land at any minute, swat teams hidden in bushes, and all anyone wants to talk about are names.

Makes no sense to me.

:biggrin:

Unsigned.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

I would think using her initials would be much more offensive.

Katrina [/*]

Most people don't go there with her initials. I don't find her initials the least bit offensive.

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

We were told today that we can't use any nicknames for Jason. So far Meredith seems to be the only one who can be called by her nickname by strangers on a message board. At least that's what it seemed that we were being told. [/*]

I see some call Jason Jay, to me that is fine because it is a shortened version of his name, same as some say Cass instead of Cassidy. Shortening a name is one thing, making up a whole new nasty name is different, at least in my opinion.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by sonya

This is an excellent post Suzanne, you have made the point so well and so compassionately. Thank You !! [/*]

thank you, thank you very much (with an Elvis accent.... grin)
It does show their love... some can let someone go with mourning, but they are still holding onto Michelle, justice for Michelle.... and hopefully enjoying CY's life and her future....

I also wonder and keep asking.... how did CY get to the Ladybug event? Was she dropped off by JY or his family or did Linda/Meredith drive the 5 hours from Raleigh to pick her up?

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Jason Young is the focus of the investigation and the suspect in his wife's murder.

Meredith Fisher is the innocent sister of the victim

Bashing the innocent family with sarcasm is OT.

BTW, it is also inappropriate to refer to Pat Young as "Ma Pat" [/*]

At this point, we know of no one's innocence or guilt.
Sorry!!
Have the helicopters landed yet?

Kat

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC

thank you, thank you very much (with an Elvis accent.... grin)
It does show their love... some can let someone go with mourning, but they are still holding onto Michelle, justice for Michelle.... and hopefully enjoying CY's life and her future....

I also wonder and keep asking.... how did CY get to the Ladybug event? Was she dropped off by JY or his family or did Linda/Meredith drive the 5 hours from Raleigh to pick her up? [/*]

Interesting question, wonder if it was someone neutral from each side of the family, maybe meeting halfway?

ETA I think it would be weird (that isn't even a strong enough word) if Jason and either Linda or Meredith met him halfway. Can't imagine if they think he killed Michelle they would want to see him even to pick up C.

sonya

05-19-2008, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by JD1974

Kat isn't the only one that uses that nickname, why single her out? I have seen at least 3 or 4 posters refer to her as Mere. I don't think I have ever posted her name any way, well until now. [/*]

In all the time I have read this board that is the one poster I remember using that name and bashing her at the same time.
It wasn't used as a "nickname" it was used with sarcasm and disdain for Meredith. Also that is who the posters had an argument with about it in the past.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 12:56 PM

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by sonya

In all the time I have read this board that is the one poster I remember using that name and bashing her at the same time.
It wasn't used as a "nickname" it was used with sarcasm and disdain for Meredith. Also that is who the posters had an argument with about it in the past. [/*]

We have moved on......

JD1974

05-19-2008, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

CY was not at the lady bug event. [/*]

Well...guess that answers that question.

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC

thank you, thank you very much (with an Elvis accent.... grin)
It does show their love... some can let someone go with mourning, but they are still holding onto Michelle, justice for Michelle.... and hopefully enjoying CY's life and her future....

I also wonder and keep asking.... how did CY get to the Ladybug event? Was she dropped off by JY or his family or did Linda/Meredith drive the 5 hours from Raleigh to pick her up? [/*]

I had no idea CY attended the event, are you sure she did ? I did see a recent picture of Meredith holding CY and smiling ear to ear, but I was under the impression it was taken on her birthday at the day care center. As far as I know CY did not go to it, also on the news clip of Linda and Meredith it doesn't show her and I think if she was there Linda and Meredith would have looked ALOT happier.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

CY was not at the lady bug event. [/*]

my bad... I just went on the ncwanted website and saw the pictures of her displayed. I thought the recent picture in the middle of the webpage below was taken the day of the Ladybug Liftoff.... how did they get this photo? Does anyone know/ It seem pretty recent.

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image/2877

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by WonderingInSC

my bad... I just went on the ncwanted website and saw the pictures of her displayed. I thought the recent picture in the middle of the webpage below was taken the day of the Ladybug Liftoff.... how did they get this photo? Does anyone know/ It seem pretty recent.

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/image/2877 [/*]

I believe they went to Brevard and visited with her there.

JD1974

05-19-2008, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Most people following the case knows that Jason and C were not expected to attend.

Yes, I am sure invites were sent out, so that no one can say that they were not invited, but with the accusations that have been made against him, I guess he was supposed to just wear his everyday ladybug suit and join in.

:rolleyes:

Kat [/*]

LOL Kat unless you are lucky and find the thread open or cached here then you are lost on some things. I was surprised when I seen it posted she had attended, never know what will happen with this case though. That's what I get for skipping over 3 forums worth of posts.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope

You're exactly right!
Linda and Meredith Fisher are not suspects!
This is the loving mother of Michelle and the younger sister that loved and adored Michelle.

Both of these women were interviewed and investigated at the beginning of LE's investigation. As were 100's of others.
They are not the suspects here.
It is time to leave them alone!

snipped
[/*]

Exactly.... I think they are due respect......much more than they are getting on here/ or other posts.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:15 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JD1974

LOL Kat unless you are lucky and find the thread open or cached here then you are lost on some things. I was surprised when I seen it posted she had attended, never know what will happen with this case though. That's what I get for skipping over 3 forums worth of posts. [/*][/QUOTE"

Next, we wlll hear that LE is in Brevard searching all lady bug costumes for clues, maybe the killer wore one.

Anyone hearing helicopters yet?

:rolleyes:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

I believe they went to Brevard and visited with her there. [/*]

Were they invited to go to Brevard?
I must have missed that.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JD1974

LOL Kat unless you are lucky and find the thread open or cached here then you are lost on some things. I was surprised when I seen it posted she had attended, never know what will happen with this case though. That's what I get for skipping over 3 forums worth of posts. [/*][/QUOTE"

Nest, we wlll hear that LE is in Brevard searching all lady bug costumes for clues, maybe the killer wore one.

Anyone hearing helicpoters yet?

Kat [/*]

Can we please go back to discussing the case and stop with the exaggerated sarcasm? Please??

fiver

05-19-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Nest, we wlll hear that LE is in Brevard searching all lady bug costumes for clues, maybe the killer wore one.

Anyone hearing helicpoters yet?

:rolleyes:

Kat [/*]I'm still uncertain where the information that Wake County homicide investigators are hanging out in Brevard came from. Or why they would even be there.

:shrug:

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Were they invited to go to Brevard?
I must have missed that. [/*]

Are you suggesting that all events involving the child go through you or are published in the newspaper? Where would you have seen it?

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by fiver
I'm still uncertain where the information that Wake County homicide investigators are hanging out in Brevard came from. Or why they would even be there.

:shrug: [/*]

I am sure someone needed to add some excitement to a case that has stalled.

Kat

ETA....I have to be fair, not stalled , just missing a piece/

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

Are you suggesting that all events involving the child go through you or are published in the newspaper? Where would you have seen it? [/*]

Did the ladybug event go through me?

Kat

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Did the ladybug event go through me?

Kat [/*]

Ahhh. So you DON'T know everything that involves the child. Let's move on.....

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Sonya, I hate to point this out but your register date shows you have just been here a month. I don't think the name was used in a sarcastic manner . I would like to talk about LE in Brevard and what in the world they could want there when the murder was 5 hours away. [/*]

I said "reading", maybe you missed that part. And, yes it was used in a sarcastic and very disdainful way by the poster I referred to. We could move on as some have requested, but, some keep posting incorrect information that needs to be corrected. IMO, that is. Brevard is 5 hours away, but since Jason has been living there since his wifes' murder, that could be why they are there and why they served search warrants on his mothers and sisters homes in February. If they are there at this time, that would lead me to believe they are very much investigating Jason and probably no one else. JMO

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:35 PM

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:36 PM

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Is Brevard in Wake County? [/*]

LOL, I believe it is in Transylvania County

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by sonya

I said "reading", maybe you missed that part. And, yes it was used in a sarcastic and very disdainful way by the poster I referred to. We could move on as some have requested, but, some keep posting incorrect information that needs to be corrected. IMO, that is. Brevard is 5 hours away, but since Jason has been living there since his wifes' murder, that could be why they are there and why they served search warrants on his mothers and sisters homes in February. If they are there at this time, that would lead me to believe they are very much investigating Jason and probably no one else. JMO [/*]

Keyword= If.

But, "if" they are there, please just post a link.
That will clear this "if" up.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by sonya

Gojo, on another board some time back. [/*]

I don't recall Gojo saying that.
Do you have that saved, Sonya?

Kat

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

I don't recall Gojo saying that.
Do you have that saved, Sonya?

Kat [/*]

No, I have never even thought of saving a post of Gojo's. But the board I am referring to doesn't delete the posters' posts, that I am aware of, it should still be there.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by smack_down

He posted it at Scout's. Scout deletes nothing so feel free to look for it over there. [/*]

Is he a member here?
We are at In Sessions .

Maybe one of the insiders has a link to L E being there?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:46 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by smack_down

:snipped>

So, you are linking this from a person who can no longer post here?
You can send it to CW for further review.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
I do believe you are wrong. Link please since you stated this as fact. Poor gojo ,if know one wants to own up to BS,blame gojo. MOO [/*]

I think it is very important if L E is in Brevard today, we could have something happen any second.

Let's have the Board so we can get the info as it comes out in Brevard.

It should be Breaking News,

Kat

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
I do believe you are wrong. Link please since you stated this as fact. Poor gojo ,if know one wants to own up to BS,blame gojo. MOO [/*]

Well, you are entitled to think whatever you want of course. I am not in the habit of "blaming" anyone nor am I in the habit of "not owning up to " anything I post.
You are very rude and possibly should read up on the TOS at this board before you insult and insinuate me or any other poster here. I would be interested in knowing how you came to the decision that "I am wrong" and "I am blaming GOJO because I don't want to own up to BS" ?
Since I did not name the board where I read Gojo's post, how do you "believe I am wrong" in the first place ? hammer

annalyzer

05-19-2008, 01:50 PM

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by smack_down

WHAT? You asked for a link, you have a link. now you are telling on me?

I am not bothering CW with a link from someone that can no longer post here.

You send it to her. I am busy watching the news for something to happen.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

LOL With his red tie. :hat: [/*]

and, his sunglasses..

Maybe he was there but flew off before the others arrived.

:lol:

Kat

sonya

05-19-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
[QUOTE]Originally posted by smack_down

:snipped>

So, you are linking this from a person who can no longer post here?
You can send it to CW for further review.

Kat [/*]

Kat I was answering someones question here asking where the info that LE were in Brevard came from. I was not quoting Gojo, I had read his post sometime back so I merely answered a question. Why are you turning this into a fiasco, you feel this needs to be sent to the moderator of this board for review ? I don't understand this at all. this seems like starting a problem where there is none to me. And from what I have read of CW, she doesn't want to be bothered with such trivial matters, does she ?
Correct me if I am wrong but in the TOS it states how you go about bringing someones statement from outside this Board, and clearly if I had quoted Gojo, I could have done it according to the rules here. But, since I did not quote, what is the problem ?

sonya

05-19-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE

So they have NO authority in any shape or form to be doing LE business. Ain`t that a hoot!!!!! [/*]

Then why did they serve search warrants on Jason in Brevard, Transylvania County North Carolina ?? On two homes and a car that I am aware of ? They drove 5 hours to do it, so are you saying they were out of their jurisdiction ?

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by sonya

Gojo, on another board some time back. [/*]Some time back as in February?

:shrug:

sonya

05-19-2008, 02:12 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Did you not say gojo was responsible for the rumor? How can you call me rude for asking a question and even said please. Sorry,I don`t buy into the rude today,that was a couple days ago when I had been at the beach all day and did not feel like arguing about being called rude. if you feel my post is rude,send it to CW and let her decide.Better yet,put me on ignore, that is why it is on here. [/*][/QUOTE

Yes, it is rude to accuse me of blaming Gojo and not owning up to my posting.
What is your problem ?

snipped from YOUR (HI-CYCLE) post*

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
I do believe you are wrong. Link please since you stated this as fact. Poor gojo ,if know one wants to own up to BS,blame gojo. MOO [/*]

sonya

05-19-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by fiver
Some time back as in February?

:shrug: [/*]

No, sometime back as in April or May '08

:biggrin:

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by fiver
Some time back as in February?

:shrug: [/*]

I don't care where else it was posted.
This is the In Sessions Board.

If someone has a link or article stating that L E is in Brevard closing in on Jason, please put it up.
Not something from someone's blog, that does not make it true.

Kat

sonya

05-19-2008, 02:21 PM

This board is being trashed yet again. Posters asking questions, posters answering those questions and then the ATTACK and the MOCKERY begins. I don't know why or how this board became so hostile, but it is too bad. A young woman is murdered viciously, people come here because they "FEEL" for her and it is nearly impossible to discuss anything about her murder for more than 10 minutes. Is there any way this crap can stop and we can all just discuss this murder ? We are all here because we were touched by Michelles senseless death and that should be more a "uniting" than a war shouldn't it ? Cmon you guys, lets just talk and exchange ideas and forget all the other bs that takes too much energy anyway ? What dya say ?

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by sonya

Then why did they serve search warrants on Jason in Brevard, Transylvania County North Carolina ?? On two homes and a car that I am aware of ? They drove 5 hours to do it, so are you saying they were out of their jurisdiction ? [/*]

On Feb 14 they were out of their jurisdiction to search warrants because the court ordered them to do so.

So far, not any links to support these claims LE is still there.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Not by me,I very much respect Kat post. Just wanted to clarify that I am NOT to be included in the "very many".:no: [/*]

Thank you.....

I missed some of the discussion about the deck stain and what possible connection or value it could have to the case after all the this time.

Did the killer try to cover anything up on the deck, by using it after the murder?
I guess it is all about shoes then.
It seems to keep coming up.
Shoes and footprints .

Shoes/ prints leading away from the murder, or in the middle of it?
Or, shoes/printed that tracked something in from the outside?

Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Thank you.......it is easy to get distracted here,my fault too.

I missed some of the discussion about the deck stain and what possible connection or value it could have to the case after all the this time.

Did the killer try to cover anything up on the deck, by using it after the murder?
I guess it is all about shoes then.
It seems to keep coming up.
Shoes and footprints .

Shoes/ prints leading away from the murder, or in the middle of it?
Or, shoes/printed that tracked something in from the outside?

Kat [/*]

I think the deck stain was taken for comparison purposes to the stain on the deck. It may not be the same stain.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

On Feb 14 they were out of their jurisdiction to search warrants because the court ordered them to do so.

So far, not any links to support these claims LE is still there. [/*]

That is what I want to know.
You can't just say L E is there.
Justify the statement.
For what reasons?
To build more of a case?
I don't see the connection.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

I think the deck stain was taken for comparison purposes to the stain on the deck. It may not be the same stain. [/*]

So, if the killer or someone used the old stain, why bother to buy more?

Could just say the old stain gallon was empty and thrown away.

Why replace it?

And, anything done that nite/am would still be sticky.

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Thank you.......it is easy to get distracted here,my fault too.

I missed some of the discussion about the deck stain and what possible connection or value it could have to the case after all the this time.

Did the killer try to cover anything up on the deck, by using it after the murder?
I guess it is all about shoes then.
It seems to keep coming up.
Shoes and footprints .

Shoes/ prints leading away from the murder, or in the middle of it?
Or, shoes/printed that tracked something in from the outside?

Kat [/*]If there was bloody foot prints on the deck then that would indicate the killer did not shower before leaving the crime scene.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

I think the deck stain was taken for comparison purposes to the stain on the deck. It may not be the same stain. [/*]

See, this is worth talking about.

If it was redwood stain, it could easily be mistaken for blood at first?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by fiver
If there was bloody foot prints on the deck then that would indicate the killer did not shower before leaving the crime scene. [/*]

Continue !!

What else?

Kat

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by sonya

No, sometime back as in April or May '08

:biggrin: [/*]

One of them was on April 21st at 6:09 p.m. I think there might be another one but I'm not positive.

annalyzer

05-19-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by agathachristie

But it's your buddy Gojo.
Are you saying it's not true?
I'm confused.:shrug: [/*]

Perhaps this person was just pulling your leg and then sitting back having a laugh at the comments and speculation regarding his claim. Or is everything that person says now considered the gospel truth? :shrug:

I haven't seen that claim posted here and I believe that person can post here. Another :shrug:

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

That is what I want to know.
You can't just say L E is there.
Justify the statement.
For what reasons?
To build more of a case?
I don't see the connection.

Kat [/*]

I don't either. Pretty silly rumor and that's why it has no legs.

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Continue !!

What else?

Kat [/*]If the killer did not clean himself before leaving the crime scene, then blood trace evidence would be in the vehicle he left in. I would imagine it would be a "slam dunk" case for the DA if Michelle's blood were found on the foot pedals of Jason's vehicle.

annalyzer

05-19-2008, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

See, this is worth talking about.

If it was redwood stain, it could easily be mistaken for blood at first?

Kat [/*]

Yes, it can. In the Dirk Greineder murder case a baby gate that was used to keep the dogs off the stairs was at first thought to have blood on it. After careful inspection it was determined to be deck stain. Dirk had also used the gate to keep the dogs off of the deck while he stained it.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

So, if the killer or someone used the old stain, why bother to buy more?

Could just say the old stain gallon was empty and thrown away.

Why replace it?

And, anything done that nite/am would still be sticky.

Kat [/*]

I think the old stain was on the deck long before the night of the murder and the bucket of stain was taken to help date the age of the existing stain on the deck.

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by zed

snipped

Finally, one of the search warrants specifically mentions the door between the garage and house that Meredith used, and although I haven't read it recently, I think that one door was not locked. This leads me to believe that this is the point of entry, rather than the deck doors. Additionally, it is very easy to enter the house without alerting anyone in the MB by going up the back stairwell, through the bonus room and into the MB.

snipped [/*]I was under the impression that the bonus room did not lead to any other area :shrug:

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by zed

Interesting thought. Since the police searched Jason's vehicle during the February 14 search, they could have been looking for additional trace evidence of deck stain in the car or near the pedals. [/*]That is a possibility, however, since the stain could have been left there at any time, I'm not sure what it's presence there would prove other than he drove the vehicle with deck stain on his shoes.

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by zed

There is a door leading to the house from the garage. Once inside that door, a person can go up the stairs to the bonus room, or through a door and into the kitchen. Once inside the bonus room, there is a door going into the small office that is at the back of the house. The small office has a second door that leads into the upstairs hallway. That door is directly across the hall from the master bedroom door. [/*]
Thank you zed :)

fiver

05-19-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Looks like from reading his post he was trying to correct information started by another poster. Wow what some hateful post allowed on the board you linked 2. [/*]No kidding! :eek:

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by annalyzer

Yes, it can. In the Dirk Greineder murder case a baby gate that was used to keep the dogs off the stairs was at first thought to have blood on it. After careful inspection it was determined to be deck stain. Dirk had also used the gate to keep the dogs off of the deck while he stained it. [/*]

Hi Annalyzer.

So then it would be very possible for what police had thought to be blood stains in Jason's car was merely deck stain, from an earlier time.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!!

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by zed

Trace evidence of deck stain from the time that the deck was stained, at the scene, and in the vehicle may mean something, particularly if a time frame could be established. [/*]I agree, but the time frame could be very difficult to establish and very easy to counter.

fiver

05-19-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

Hi Annalyzer.

So then it would be very possible for what police had thought to be blood stains in Jason's car was merely deck stain, from an earlier time.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!!

Kat [/*]:eek:

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

According to gojo, the killer left evidence in the master bath of cleanup----blood on he shower wall.

He likely changed his bloody clothing and shoes before leaving. [/*]

We don't know that.

The killer may have just washed his hands and leaned on the shower wall.

A panicked killer would run afterwards.
And, anyone who killed Michelle like that had to panick, if for nothing else than being caught.

Too much unknown.

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by FaithHope
http://frictionpowered.hqforums.com/vp6969.html?highlight=#6969

gojo's 7:53pm post [/*]That was from a month ago, the insinuation is that Wake county homicide detectives are currently in Brevard. :shrug:

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

According to gojo, the killer left evidence in the master bath of cleanup----blood on he shower wall.

He likely changed his bloody clothing and shoes before leaving. [/*]

If that's the case, the killer slipped into Jason's clean clothes/shoes. I doubt Michelle's would fit. It's very unlikely the killer brought a change of clothing and shoes.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by fiver
That is a possibility, however, since the stain could have been left there at any time, I'm not sure what it's presence there would prove other than he drove the vehicle with deck stain on his shoes. [/*]

It wouldn't prove anything. His deck, his shoes, his car. I think if they were re-examining cars they were still looking for Michelle's blood. Maybe they blew the lab testing the first time around or broke chain of evidence. Wouldn't be the first time.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by zed

I'd have to go back and read the warrant, but I think I read that one door was unlocked when Meredith arrived. That means it was left unlocked the night before. If Jason left through the connecting garage door, and left the door unlocked, anyone could have entered through that door. We know there was no forced entry so either someone had a key, or Jason left the door unlocked when he left. It would help if he could answer that question, as it could also help to eliminate him as a suspect if he forget to lock the door. [/*]

If it is a deadbolt lock on the door, it is far more likely Michelle left it unlocked.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

If it is a deadbolt lock on the door, it is far more likely Michelle left it unlocked. [/*]

Or the killer left through that door and left it unlocked.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
TY for the link.That is what I wanted to see. What can I say? I was WRONG,hope that helps. I do believe gojo fishes a lot. Just because he says so does not make it true. I still don`t think Wake County LE was in Brevard,they would not have any jurisdiction. Surely they are not that arrogant??But maybe they are.
hammer my head. [/*]

The posting was a month ago about something that was told to them about the previous week. Five weeks later, the chances that WCSO are still there are slim to none.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
The killer could have got in through the door and exited the door. WHY did Sheriff Donnie come forward so quickly stating this was not a random murderer?????I think this statement was made in his interview with the media. [/*]

That's a very good question. I would guess it has to do with other evidence that they have that we are not aware of.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

Or the killer left through that door and left it unlocked. [/*]

No sign of forced entry.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

No sign of forced entry. [/*]

Exactly.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
The killer could have got in through the door and exited the door. WHY did Sheriff Donnie come forward so quickly stating this was not a random murderer?????I think this statement was made in his interview with the media. [/*]

LE has made similar statements in other crimes and been wrong. I personally think it is an idiotic statement to make. People need to be concerned and vigilant about their own safety at all times. Some LE are willing to admit they were wrong. Others don't.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

Exactly. [/*]

Unfortunately it is a clue that doesn't help identify the killer.

Barbara2

05-19-2008, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

Unfortunately it is a clue that doesn't help identify the killer. [/*]

I guess it depends on what else they have to go with that clue. It may not be relevant by itself but may be in connection to something else.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

I guess it depends on what else they have to go with that clue. It may not be relevant by itself but may be in connection to something else. [/*]

Obviously

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by june1943

Wouldn't you think that if Jason had killed Michelle he would have thought to break a window or somethink to make it look like a breakin? [/*]

Of course. It's one of many reasons I don't believe Jason is the killer.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:41 PM

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

Of course. It's one of many reasons I don't believe Jason is the killer. [/*]

There was a profiler, I don't have the link, it should be on WRAL or in the Observer though, I think his name was Morgan, who let it slip in his statement something about the front door being left open.....

I don't know if he meant before or after the crime.
:shrug:

Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
No but it sure makes you look at it differently. It sure broadens the suspects IMO. [/*]

Absolutely does. Killers have entered through unlocked doors or even knocked on the door and been let in.

fiver

05-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Barbara2

Or the killer left through that door and left it unlocked. [/*]Then why all the interest in the deck :shrug:

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
Celiarun,are you sure the door was unlocked the night Michelle was murdered?? I mean this could change ever thing about the case. It could have been ANYONE.. I never knew this and I have been following this case since Nov. 06... [/*]

Yes, Hi ~C, it has been posted here before that Michelle and Jason sometimes left the adjoining door to the garage unlocked.

You also have to think that sometime that nite Michelle probably let Mr. G out too.

We don't know if she left the door open for this and for how long.

I think she had a really full day, with work, dinner, Jason leaving, her friend coming over, taking care of C and getting C ready for bed, and she was exhausted.

She may have even just laid down without the intent to fall asleep, and then________________________.

By the time she remembered she did not lock or check all the doors, it was too late.

I wish that alarm had been working.

:(

Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by zed

I don't think the type of lock can indicate who left it unlocked. [/*]

If it's a deadbolt easily locked from the inside but requiring a key on the outside, it most certainly can give an indication.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by zed

I didn't say that Michelle left a door unlocked. Jason may have left through the connecting garage door and left the door to the back stairwell unlocked. [/*]

Anybody exiting through the door most likely would leave it unlocked. If he exited through the front door, he wouldn't have locked it behind him.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by zed

What makes you say that? [/*]

Common sense really. I've managed a budget.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by fiver
Then why all the interest in the deck :shrug: [/*]

I am interested in the deck because 13 months or so after the crime, someone in L E was interested in it to.

Why, though?

It has to be related to a print..

Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by zed

Are you saying that you think the police statement that it was not a random crime is false? Could you please present something to support this opinion?

We have a police statement presented as fact, yet you claim it's incorrect with nothing to support your opinion.

What is the purpose of this? [/*]

You don't understand my posting yet you want me to present something to support what you don't understand?

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Convenient wasn't it [/*]

As opposed to anyone saying it was a woman, and the woman wore Michelle's clothes?
Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
How did we all miss this information????Did anyone else besides me miss it???My God,all the name calling of this husband,murderer,murderer,murderer and all along LE knew the door was unlocked and any one could have walked in and murdered her. Can we believe anything LE has said??? Do they want to mislead the public to take the subject of their MISSTATEMENT?? I am :flamemad: :flamemad: :flamemad: [/*]

Remember, when LE made the statement about it not being random, LE also believed the husband was the killer. And we really don't know at what point Meredith told them the door into the house from the garage was unlocked.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by Otterman

Try the rear french doors on for size. [/*]

Why? Wasn't the GA friend at the house when Jason left? She knows what exit he used.

WonderingInSC

05-19-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
How did we all miss this information????Did anyone else besides me miss it???My God,all the name calling of this husband,murderer,murderer,murderer and all along LE knew the door was unlocked and any one could have walked in and murdered her. Can we believe anything LE has said??? Do they want to mislead the public to take the subject of their MISSTATEMENT?? I am :flamemad: :flamemad: :flamemad: [/*]

You might be right, but the initial investigation must not have found unidentifiable fingerprints, DNA, etc.,which may be why it was stated not a random crime.
It sounds from what LE said.....they will arrest someone soon.

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by zed

Let's suppose the door is a deadbolt rather than a double key lock. Why do you think that means Michelle left if unlocked. You've made a leap that I can't follow. [/*]

You can't follow? Or is it more likely you refuse to follow because it points to someone other than Jason?

I said nothing about a double key lock. I'm assuming it is a deadbolt easily locked from the inside by turning a knob.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Celiarun

The posting was a month ago about something that was told to them about the previous week. Five weeks later, the chances that WCSO are still there are slim to none. [/*]

The newest s/w's that we know about are over 3 months old, I don't think L E is there to make sure he got them.

Although, I am starting to think there may be some scare tactics involved with these s/w's.

The case lays low for awhile, then s w's for the deck and stain in Dec, and then to Brevard in Feb.

How could you find anything intact after this length of time.
Anything incriminating would be destroyed.

Kat

fiver

05-19-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by zed

Are you saying that you think the police statement that it was not a random crime is false? Could you please present something to support this opinion?

We have a police statement presented as fact, yet you claim it's incorrect with nothing to support your opinion.

What is the purpose of this? [/*]In all honesty, LE said the BTK killings were "not random" when they, in fact, were.

Kat4Eagles

05-19-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by zed

Are you saying that you think the police statement that it was not a random crime is false? Could you please present something to support this opinion?

We have a police statement presented as fact, yet you claim it's incorrect with nothing to support your opinion.

What is the purpose of this? [/*]

Do you think they would come out now and correct that statement or any others they made.?

They may have believed it at the time, but things do change in the course of an investigation.

It is part of the puzzle.

Kat

Celiarun

05-19-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

The newest s/w's that we know about are over 3 months old, I don't think L E is there to make sure he got them.

Although, I am starting to think there may be some scare tactics involved with these s/w's.

The case lays low for awhile, then s w's for the deck and stain in Dec, and then to Brevard in Feb.

How could you find anything intact after this length of time.
Anything incriminating would be destroyed.

Kat [/*]

It may have been a long shot with the search warrants and
they may not have produced any evidence. Just because LE looks for something doesn't mean they'll always find it.

Leanne Weich

05-19-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

CE can be the most powerful means for conviction, but in this crime where there was so much evidence was supposedly left behind, there should have been a sure and quick arrest,

To need any part of this puzzle after all this time, means it just did not play out to be Jason.

As far as LE in Brevard, take a pic of them , there would be your credible unbroken undeniable link.

Otherwise,it is simply discounted in the rumor room.

Kat [/*]

Do you watch Cold Case Files? In many spousal homicides, with no FE, it often takes years to build a CE case.

As far as LE being in Brevard, I have never commented on that as I have no personal knowledge of whether this is in fact true or not so you are correct, it can, if you wish, be discounted as rumour.

By the same token, it is up to each individual to deduce what they believe LE meant by attending the memorial for Michelle and whether or not they believe the email Scout received. As far s I am concerned, I believe Meredith has been cleared of any involvement in Michelle's murder but, like everyone else, what I choose to infer may be different to what anyone else does.

awareness

05-19-2008, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Kat4Eagles

The newest s/w's that we know about are over 3 months old, I don't think L E is there to make sure he got them.

Although, I am starting to think there may be some scare tactics involved with these s/w's.

The case lays low for awhile, then s w's for the deck and stain in Dec, and then to Brevard in Feb.

How could you find anything intact after this length of time.
Anything incriminating would be destroyed.

Kat [/*]

Could have been financial or other records that aren't easily destroyable.

JMO/OMP