April 22 to 27

[nuttintodo]

I'll start the thread....

Anyone have any ideas on the Denver connection to the case?

[caejde]

Just that I wonder if it's Tyler's cell phone...

[Lyn_T]

Originally posted by caejde
Just that I wonder if it's Tyler's cell phone... [/*]

2nd that

[hinman]

I am considering it. :D

[crymeariver2006]

Fourth it!

[caejde]

This could be a first...we're all agreeing on something.:D

[nuttintodo]

I'll 5th it or am I pleading the 5th? :eek:



:D

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
I'll 5th it or am I pleading the 5th? :eek:



:D [/*]

Or sharing it?

:beer:

[Mitzy2]

I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO

[caejde]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO [/*]

True, it could be Amber's...or Amber could have answered it if Tyler couldn't.

Really wonder how much of part they all 3 played in this.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by caejde


True, it could be Amber's...or Amber could have answered it if Tyler couldn't.

Really wonder how much of part they all 3 played in this. [/*] I wonder as well. I have read theroies that all of them may have ganged up on poor Maria, before her dissappearance.

[nuttintodo]

Yes Kim, it's sad but true.


Anyway, LK has a teaser that the reporter from WNCT is working on something regarding the IP addresses that were being watched by LLE.

[Kim]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Yes Kim, it's sad but true.


Anyway, LK has a teaser that the reporter from WNCT is working on something regarding the IP addresses that were being watched by LLE. [/*]
That should ruffle some feathers! :lol:

[gaelicpeas]

Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA!

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*] gaelic, there is a subpoena for CL's Bank account, My Space and other IP addresses, just off the top of my head.

[caejde]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*]

An email account in Christina's name.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
Okay, there were 7 subpoenas/search warrants unsealed yesterday, right? Could somebody list what each was for? I have seen references to a phone number in Denver, a yahoo account about animal_batista_diego, and a phone call at Subway. What are the other 4 about? TIA! [/*]

GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas.

[caejde]

They are:

1. phone records from the Subway
2. phone records from the Verizon cell phone # out of Denver
3. 2 for Roadrunner for IP's
4. the bank
5. the 2 email addresses through Yahoo

[caejde]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas. [/*]

Beat me to it!

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by caejde


Beat me to it! [/*]

Sorry 'bout that! :D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
I'll 6th that , however since a female answered the phone yesterday when reporter Mike McHugh (OTC) called, it might be Amber's. Seems, Xtina, Tyler & Amber were complicit. The Verizon Subpoena was dated 2-15-08. LE got a hold of that cell phone # early on. JMO [/*]
I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO :)

[Babes]

Originally posted by sunstar

I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO :) [/*]

Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! ) :(

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Babes


Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! ) :( [/*]
It wouldn't be the first time a family bands together against the "outsider".

[strick10]

I think the parents know the truth.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by strick10
I think the parents know the truth. [/*]

:confused:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by strick10
I think the parents know the truth. [/*]
Morning/afternoon strick and all!

I don't know how much the Shifflets knew in the beginning when they went on Nat'l TV, but I'm thinking they sure know a lot now.

I feel sorry for them, and for all the parents involved in this mess.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by sunstar

I'll also agree it could be the brother-in-law or Mrs. CL's sister ~ and to the "ganging up" theory as well. The motive was there to remove Maria from CL/Mrs. CL's lives. MOO :) [/*]:seeya: It certainly doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. That group sure was playing a lot of sneaky games when it came to communicating with CL. JMO

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10
I think the parents know the truth. [/*]
You might be right, but sometimes parents are the last ones to know what their children do. :shrug:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
:seeya: It certainly doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. That group sure was playing a lot of sneaky games when it came to communicating with CL. JMO [/*]
Yes, a very circuitous way of communicating, through Amber's myspace and her computer, and now the husband's work and someone's cell phone. I guess they all underestimated LE! :eek:

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by Babes


Geesh a cooperating witness and her cooperating family ( not all! ) :( [/*] Judging from all the subpoena's requested in Feb. 08, it doesn't appear that LE had a lot of "trust & faith" in their "Cooperating Witness". :shrug:

[strick10]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Morning/afternoon strick and all!

I don't know how much the Shifflets knew in the beginning when they went on Nat'l TV, but I'm thinking they sure know a lot now.

I feel sorry for them, and for all the parents involved in this mess. [/*]

I do too Ivey.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
Judging from all the subpoena's requested in Feb. 08, it doesn't appear that LE had a lot of "trust & faith" in their "Cooperating Witness". :shrug: [/*]
I was just thinking the same thing. :D

[marcusdog]

Or thought they were but a young woman has lost her life and the life of her child. When they were communicating with a murderer did the have no conscience where these two deaths were concerned. Perhaps all four will be visiting the local state prison.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by sunstar

I was just thinking the same thing. :D [/*] Great Minds and all that:biggrin: While I realize that there was/is an on-going investigation, these "warrants" are very targeted/date & time specific for only 4 individuals. JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Klukie


Are they suppose to? I think it has been posted many times by posters complaining about LE taking Christina's word for everything.

Now you see that is not true. They have much more evidence you know nothing about. This is just the small tip of the iceberg.

Christina was not involved in the murder or cover up and was only communicating with Cesar not aiding and abetting. That is not against the law. She will not be charged.

They have never just taken her word for anything.

Now you are saying they didn't trust her.

What next?

JMO [/*]

Yep on everything!

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Klukie


Are they suppose to? I think it has been posted many times by posters complaining about LE taking Christina's word for everything.

Now you see that is not true. They have much more evidence you know nothing about. This is just the small tip of the iceberg.

Christina was not involved in the murder or cover up and was only communicating with Cesar not aiding and abetting. That is not against the law. She will not be charged.

They have never just taken her word for anything.

Now you are saying they didn't trust her.

What next?

JMO [/*]

Rick Sutherland had said himself the LE had asked that if anyone had contact with Cesar to notify them, Christina, her sister and brother in law choose not to.

It may not be against the law in NC, but I certainly don't consider them to be cooperating with the LE, do you?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by IvySterling


Rick Sutherland had said himself the LE had asked that if anyone had contact with Cesar to notify them, Christina, her sister and brother in law choose not to.

It may not be against the law in NC, but I certainly don't consider them to be cooperating with the LE, do you? [/*]

If this bothers you (what they are called by LE), why don't you email RS himself and complain?

I'm not saying this to be insulting or facetious....but geez....

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


If this bothers you (what they are called by LE), why don't you email RS himself and complain?

I'm not saying this to be insulting or facetious....but geez.... [/*]
I don't write emails to local officials about my personal feelings about that law, or any others in a State where I don't reside.

I'm stating HERE on a forum my take, just as you are!

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


GPeas,

They were for:

1) Roadrunner IP trace on 2/10 from 8 to 9pm

2) Embarq (formerly Sprint here) for calls to Subway on 3/31 between 7 and 7:45pm

3) Roadrunner IP trace for 1/21 (different IP number than #1)

4) Yahoo IP logs for CAL's email account from 1/15 to 2/22

5) Yahoo IP logs for CSL's email account from 2/11 to 2/22

6) MFCU bank records for all account held by CAL from 1/14 to 2/15

7) Verizon records for the Denver cell phone number

That's basically a summary GPeas. [/*]

thanks, Nuttin and everybody else! Had to leave for a bit, so just now seeing this (and what others posted!)

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I don't write emails to local officials about my personal feelings about that law, or any others in a State where I don't reside.

I'm stating HERE on a forum my take, just as you are! [/*]

Okay, no offense meant and I apologize.

No problem.

[gaelicpeas]

so are these all the search warrants issued, or will there be more unsealed in coming days?

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Okay, no offense meant and I apologize.

No problem. [/*]
You don't need to apologize and no offense was taken :)

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
so are these all the search warrants issued, or will there be more unsealed in coming days? [/*]
IIRC gp more are due to be opened perhaps within a few days, not sure as to when.

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by IvySterling

IIRC gp more are due to be opened perhaps within a few days, not sure as to when. [/*]

thanks, Ivy! I was hoping there would be more to their investigation than just these....

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling

IIRC gp more are due to be opened perhaps within a few days, not sure as to when. [/*]

Didn't Lindell say last night that he expects some news to come out in the next couple of days about Mexico?

imoo

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Didn't Lindell say last night that he expects some news to come out in the next couple of days about Mexico?

imoo [/*]
He said he expects the search warrants to be unsealed in the next two days as per his post.
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=113

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling

He said he expects the search warrants to be unsealed in the next two days as per his post.
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=113 [/*]

Thanks and he said that he thought news about Mexico would be coming soon also so both of those things will give us new information to discuss.

imo

[crymeariver2006]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=123

Lindell explaining the Robbery With a Dangerous Weapon charge.

And no, Cesar didn't force Maria to withdraw money from the ATM.

(No more SW's yet. Darnit)

[IvySterling]

GB needs to do some cleaning :D

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=123

Lindell explaining the Robbery With a Dangerous Weapon charge.

And no, Cesar didn't force Maria to withdraw money from the ATM.

(No more SW's yet. Darnit) [/*]

Evening everyone! Thanks for the update, cryme!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling
GB needs to do some cleaning :D [/*]

Oops......sorry.

BRB:o

[IvySterling]

Sure is quiet in here, very, very quiet!

[nuttintodo]

Yes it is Ivy.

I think there are some off playing elsewhere. :D

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Yes it is Ivy.

I think there are some off playing elsewhere. :D [/*]

I check in. Not playing elsewhere. Well, I do somewhat, but not about this case.

There just seems to be nothing going on right now. The SW's aren't very interesting.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Yes it is Ivy.

I think there are some off playing elsewhere. :D [/*] I think they are, just left the playground and my eyes are full of tears from laughter:lol:

[baywench]

I think we need to rehash something to death. I could start a couple but I will refrain. SW's aren't interesting and LK just makes me want to slap him for his "I know something you don't know" attitude. So as you can see, I am left on the playground and no one wants to play with me 'cos I'm a brat.:cool:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Yes it is Ivy.

I think there are some off playing elsewhere. :D [/*]
Yeah, no kidding there are, PLAYING they are :rolleyes:

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by baywench
I think we need to rehash something to death. I could start a couple but I will refrain. SW's aren't interesting and LK just makes me want to slap him for his "I know something you don't know" attitude. So as you can see, I am left on the playground and no one wants to play with me 'cos I'm a brat.:cool: [/*] ITA, the "teaspoons" of information, I think is making people crazy;)

[IvySterling]

~snipped
Originally posted by baywench
LK just makes me want to slap him for his "I know something you don't know" attitude. [/*]
I know what you mean bay, BUT, it keeps the readers glued to their chairs reading, and lets face it, that's what the JDNews wants.

[strick10]

Originally posted by baywench
I think we need to rehash something to death. I could start a couple but I will refrain. SW's aren't interesting and LK just makes me want to slap him for his "I know something you don't know" attitude. So as you can see, I am left on the playground and no one wants to play with me 'cos I'm a brat.:cool: [/*]

I'll hold him for ya! Guess he needs the posts to reflect the boards success. What a better way to get alot of posts on your than to leave people hanging. You're a brat?

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

I know what you mean bay, BUT, it keeps the readers glued to their chairs reading, and lets face it, that's what the JDNews wants. [/*]

Exactly.

I do find it amusing that JDNews was outscooped by WITN yesterday. But that's just a local thing.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Sure is quiet in here, very, very quiet! [/*]
Hi again everyone :seeya: I came home from work, had dinner, and I'm now watching the PA primary results while chatting with everyone here!! Now I see I've got more from LK to :read:

[Calla]

I like LK:(


:D

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I check in. Not playing elsewhere. Well, I do somewhat, but not about this case.

There just seems to be nothing going on right now. The SW's aren't very interesting. [/*]

Good for you.

As to the 'playing', I was referring to the immature adult(s) who are literally making themselves look foolish on a blog.

I like a good joke just like everyone else does but what's going on there is obnoxious and it's beyond ever being funny.

Sorry you think the subpoenas aren't interesting. Hopefully something will pique your interests soon.

:seeya:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Calla
I like LK:(


:D [/*]
I do too. I found tonight's entry on the robbery aspect interesting. :)

[Calla]

I enjoy skimming over the "blogs"

And I can already see the made for t.v. movie

(Partially based on a true story)

Names have been changed

Chain of events have been rearranged and edited

Any name or event that may have similarities to any real person or event is totally coincidental

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Good for you.

As to the 'playing', I was referring to the immature adult(s) who are literally making themselves look foolish on a blog.

I like a good joke just like everyone else does but what's going on there is obnoxious and it's beyond ever being funny.

Sorry you think the subpoenas aren't interesting. Hopefully something will pique your interests soon.

:seeya: [/*]:( hanging head in shame. I did laugh at the craziness.:punch: ( for me)

[IvySterling]

~snipped
Originally posted by nuttintodo
As to the 'playing', I was referring to the immature adult(s) who are literally making themselves look foolish on a blog.

I like a good joke just like everyone else does but what's going on there is obnoxious and it's beyond ever being funny. [/*]
ITA nuttin. For LK to start a thread just for IS posters to Duke it out and sound like a Middle School locker-room doesn't reflect well for InSessions posters as a whole IMO

[Calla]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

ITA nuttin. For LK to start a thread just for IS posters to Duke it out and sound like a Middle School locker-room doesn't reflect well for InSessions posters as a whole IMO [/*]

I didn't say nothin

I promise:(

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Calla


I didn't say nothin

I promise:( [/*]

I'm gonna need a note to back that up.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by Calla


I didn't say nothin

I promise:( [/*]

Have you lawyered up yet? If not plead the 5th!

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by sunstar

I do too. I found tonight's entry on the robbery aspect interesting. :) [/*]
But we already knew it, in fact it was posted up in the links back on Jan. 26th.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

ITA nuttin. For LK to start a thread just for IS posters to Duke it out and sound like a Middle School locker-room doesn't reflect well for InSessions posters as a whole IMO [/*]

Unfortunately I think that is/was the sole intent and purpose (not by LK).

jmoo

[Calla]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I'm gonna need a note to back that up. [/*]


Umm lemme go see if LK will write me one:D

[Calla]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Have you lawyered up yet? If not plead the 5th! [/*]

I'm gonna talk to Dewey and send SB an email asap!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Calla


I didn't say nothin

I promise:( [/*]

Me neither but I did read it!:eek:

imo

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Unfortunately I think that is/was the sole intent and purpose (not by LK).

jmoo [/*]
Of course it was, by "Sock Puppets" who've posted here, BUT WHY devote a thread that directs to here I'll never know.

Starting a bashing thread just for IS will not keep the sparing only in that arena, it will continue onto the other threads.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Calla


I'm gonna talk to Dewey and send SB an email asap! [/*]

Good thinking. Sending SB some biscuits won't hurt either.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling

But we already knew it, in fact it was posted up in the links back on Jan. 26th. [/*]
I know, but it was still interesting. There probably won't be much else until more SW are released or CL is returned from Mexico. :shrug:

[Calla]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Me neither but I did read it!:eek:

imo [/*]

:tongue:
I was gettin into the "did you order the code red" stuff pretty deep.
:biggrin:

yes! I am ashamed

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Calla


:tongue:
I was gettin into the "did you order the code red" stuff pretty deep.
:biggrin:

yes! I am ashamed [/*]

How long did it take to sink in to you that it was from a movie???

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Good for you.

As to the 'playing', I was referring to the immature adult(s) who are literally making themselves look foolish on a blog.

I like a good joke just like everyone else does but what's going on there is obnoxious and it's beyond ever being funny.

Sorry you think the subpoenas aren't interesting. Hopefully something will pique your interests soon.

:seeya: [/*]

Oh okay, I have read over there but it just confuses me. I don't know who is who or who is trying to be who or what the big deal is. I don't pay much attention. It's all pretty crazy. I find myself saying yet again, I wish we had some REAL news to sink our teeth into. Maybe news out of Mexico.

[IvySterling]

O/T warning :D
Well, looks like H.R. Clinton won the PA Primary:(

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling
O/T warning :D
Well, looks like H.R. Clinton won the PA Primary:( [/*]

She will also be in Jacksonville this Thursday...Bill was just here a couple weeks back.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Oh okay, I have read over there but it just confuses me. I don't know who is who or who is trying to be who or what the big deal is. I don't pay much attention. It's all pretty crazy. I find myself saying yet again, I wish we had some REAL news to sink our teeth into. Maybe news out of Mexico. [/*]
Yes, looking forward to hearing news of who went to Mexico and if they'll release anything from the trip.

Also interested in the Search Warrants we haven't seen yet.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Yes, looking forward to hearing news of who went to Mexico and if they'll release anything from the trip.

Also interested in the Search Warrants we haven't seen yet. [/*]

I thought the mock Grand Jury was interesting that was done out of Texas on Laurean.

They indicted him on all of the counts although the murder indictment wasn't unanimous and two thought there was no probable cause to indict. They did indict on the rest of the charges except the robbery.

BUT they also did a mock extradition and ruled due to him possibly coming before a military tribunal they declined extradition.:eek: Now that was interesting. Wonder what LE is thinking about this article although Lindell put more information on his blog than in the JDN article he wrote. He cut it short and did not list the results I don't think....just posted it on the blog.

imoo

[Calla]

Originally posted by marinewife5


How long did it take to sink in to you that it was from a movie??? [/*]

half a second! That movie and Down Periscope are my DH's favs of all time.
He yells "you can't handle the truth" in unison with Jack .

A Va Beach attorney who, it is said, the Kevin Bacon character in the movie was based on, has spoken out in the media in the past (in a news clip) regarding a case where a Marine was murdered and set on fire.
Because I knew one of the players in that case up close and personal, I kind of have a crush on that Attorney:D
I watch the movie everytime it repeats LOL

i should clarify...it may have been a sailor who was murdered. i'll recheck my facts later...i just know why it happened and the who that caused it to happen:o

[Calla]

I gotta run out.

I know you are all over at LK's blog anyway:shrug:

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Calla
I gotta run out.

I know you are all over at LK's blog anyway:shrug: [/*]

am not. i've been right here the entire time.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Calla
I gotta run out.

I know you are all over at LK's blog anyway:shrug: [/*]
Not me, watching DWTS on my puter!

[Charlotte]

Originally posted by IvySterling
O/T warning :D
Well, looks like H.R. Clinton won the PA Primary:( [/*]

No O/T warning necessary. The majority of this thread has been off topic. IMO

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Charlotte


No O/T warning necessary. The majority of this thread has been off topic. IMO [/*]
Well, you could've jumped in at any time and contibuted something On Topic ya know!

[baywench]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

I know what you mean bay, BUT, it keeps the readers glued to their chairs reading, and lets face it, that's what the JDNews wants. [/*]

True dat!

[baywench]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Oh okay, I have read over there but it just confuses me. I don't know who is who or who is trying to be who or what the big deal is. I don't pay much attention. It's all pretty crazy. I find myself saying yet again, I wish we had some REAL news to sink our teeth into. Maybe news out of Mexico. [/*]

I really don't read over to be truthful 'cos the jist of it will be posted here and I just like here better:D

[baywench]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Of course it was, by "Sock Puppets" who've posted here, BUT WHY devote a thread that directs to here I'll never know.

Starting a bashing thread just for IS will not keep the sparing only in that arena, it will continue onto the other threads. [/*]

Oh my I didn't realize that was going on over there. I think we're better off on our own. We seem to figure it all out in the end anyway. With little bloodletting! JMO

[baywench]

Originally posted by strick10


I'll hold him for ya! Guess he needs the posts to reflect the boards success. What a better way to get alot of posts on your than to leave people hanging. You're a brat? [/*]

Well yes....brat sounds so much better than that other * word!:cool:

[Babes]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I thought the mock Grand Jury was interesting that was done out of Texas on Laurean.

They indicted him on all of the counts although the murder indictment wasn't unanimous and two thought there was no probable cause to indict. They did indict on the rest of the charges except the robbery.

BUT they also did a mock extradition and ruled due to him possibly coming before a military tribunal they declined extradition.:eek: Now that was interesting. Wonder what LE is thinking about this article although Lindell put more information on his blog than in the JDN article he wrote. He cut it short and did not list the results I don't think....just posted it on the blog.

imoo [/*]


Interesting. Ive'd read it as well. Could you imagine if it is really a known experienced very smart attorney representing Laurean on that court? :seeya:

[daniel green]

Hello, you all.

Pls, pls, pls give me the shorthand version of the cliif notes of what's happened.

We've had family here for Passover and staying and I have barely had time to look at my emails, let alone keep up.

Thank you!

[daniel green]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Not me, watching DWTS on my puter! [/*]

I tivod it and it stopped recording when it was the last two. :flamemad:

Who got sent home?

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by daniel green


I tivod it and it stopped recording when it was the last two. :flamemad:

Who got sent home? [/*]
I'm watching last nights show, I'm Pacific time so not on here yet tonight!

I quit Tivoing, I can watch the shows I miss right here and post also :D

[lili]

OK. If it wasn't Laurean, who would go into his backyard and burn Maria without his knowledge?

He reportedly had a BBQ party over her remains shortly thereafter. I suppose he was trying to mask it.

Who on earth had access to that degree to his backyard, to kill and transport a body, make a shallow grave and then set it on fire IN HIS OWN BACKYARD? And then get a BBQ party going right on top? :rolleyes:

JMO

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by lili
OK. If it wasn't Laurean, who would go into his backyard and burn Maria without his knowledge?

He reportedly had a BBQ party over her remains shortly thereafter. I suppose he was trying to mask it.

Who on earth had access to that degree to his backyard, to kill and transport a body, make a shallow grave and then set it on fire IN HIS OWN BACKYARD? And then get a BBQ party going right on top? :rolleyes:

JMO [/*]well since he said maria cut her own throat maybe she burnt herself too.


That boys going to prison for a long long long time.

[martha]

Good Morning everyone. I been gone a few days and am way behind. I will try to read and catch up some today. seems like there is nothing new on cl. wish they would tell some new on him. good to be back with you nice people. keep posting. :rose:

[Kim]

Originally posted by martha
Good Morning everyone. I been gone a few days and am way behind. I will try to read and catch up some today. seems like there is nothing new on cl. wish they would tell some new on him. good to be back with you nice people. keep posting. :rose: [/*]
well Im not considered "nice" but welcome back! I too wish we would hear something on this case.I am so anxious to hear news out of mexico!
A lot of people were asking about you the other day.They said you were sick IIRC I hope you are feeling better!:rose:

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by lili
OK. If it wasn't Laurean, who would go into his backyard and burn Maria without his knowledge?

He reportedly had a BBQ party over her remains shortly thereafter. I suppose he was trying to mask it.

Who on earth had access to that degree to his backyard, to kill and transport a body, make a shallow grave and then set it on fire IN HIS OWN BACKYARD? And then get a BBQ party going right on top? :rolleyes:

JMO [/*]

There are no factual reports that I've seen that he cooked food over her body. jmo

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by martha
Good Morning everyone. I been gone a few days and am way behind. I will try to read and catch up some today. seems like there is nothing new on cl. wish they would tell some new on him. good to be back with you nice people. keep posting. :rose: [/*]

Good Morning Martha...It is very nice to see you here :rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by marinewife5


There are no factual reports that I've seen that he cooked food over her body. jmo [/*]

Thank you!

We can blame THAT one on Nancy Grace! :cuss:

[lili]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
well since he said maria cut her own throat maybe she burnt herself too.


That boys going to prison for a long long long time. [/*]

Yeppers!

JMO

[lili]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Thank you!

We can blame THAT one on Nancy Grace! :cuss: [/*]

Supposing that story wasn't true, does it make her murder and burning in his backyard any better? There's no doubt about her charred remains being found in a shallow grave in his backyard. Right where his family was living. What a guy! :flamemad:

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by lili


Supposing that story wasn't true, does it make her murder and burning in his backyard any better? There's no doubt about her charred remains being found in a shallow grave in his backyard. Right where his family was living. What a guy! :flamemad:

JMO [/*]

Hey I'm not defending CL by ANY stretch.

But NG owes it to the public to get her facts straight.

[martha]

Oh yes you or Kim mw hi good to see you all here. yes I have been sick but am getting better with each day. I missed you all I have been on a trip and glad to be home. I used to watch ng but she does get her facts wrong a lot and by the time she is covering a story it is old news.ha I don;t think anyone would take up for cl if he did what they say he did. but we all have to wait and see what comes down the tube. hope we find out some news on him today.:rose:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by martha
Oh yes you or Kim mw hi good to see you all here. yes I have been sick but am getting better with each day. I missed you all I have been on a trip and glad to be home. I used to watch ng but she does get her facts wrong a lot and by the time she is covering a story it is old news.ha I don;t think anyone would take up for cl if he did what they say he did. but we all have to wait and see what comes down the tube. hope we find out some news on him today.:rose: [/*]

Good morning martha and anyone else reading or posting. Glad to hear you are getting better.

Now, if we can just find out who is enroute to Mexico and what's in the sealed search warrants. At least that will give us something to talk about.

;)

I don't think anyone has ever defended the disposal of Maria and her baby, not anyone. There is no defense from my POV.

That said, I still want to hear the whole story before I convict any one of anything court of public opinion or not. Sometimes things are not as they seem and only the unveiling of each and every detail will reveal what was really going on.

JMO.:patriot:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Good morning martha and anyone else reading or posting. Glad to hear you are getting better.

Now, if we can just find out who is enroute to Mexico and what's in the sealed search warrants. At least that will give us something to talk about.

;)

I don't think anyone has ever defended the disposal of Maria and her baby, not anyone. There is no defense from my POV.

That said, I still want to hear the whole story before I convict any one of anything court of public opinion or not. Sometimes things are not as they seem and only the unveiling of each and every detail will reveal what was really going on.

JMO.:patriot: [/*]

Good Morning Candy!

Yes, imo it does make a difference. This case is already heartbreaking enough without rumors and misinformation being dumped in as truth by the media just to make the case more gory to boost their ratings and Nancy Grace never retracts any of the misinformation she so recklessly puts out. Not in this case or any other case.

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by martha
Good Morning everyone. I been gone a few days and am way behind. I will try to read and catch up some today. seems like there is nothing new on cl. wish they would tell some new on him. good to be back with you nice people. keep posting. :rose: [/*]

Glad to see you are back with us, Martha!

You have been missed.

:seeya:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Good Morning Candy!

Yes, imo it does make a difference. This case is already heartbreaking enough without rumors and misinformation being dumped in as truth by the media just to make the case more gory to boost their ratings and Nancy Grace never retracts any of the misinformation she so recklessly puts out. Not in this case or any other case.

imoo [/*]

As we guess and second guess this case and what has gone on, I will continue to wait for a trial to show the evidence the State has to PROVE the defendant is guilty of MURDER.

It's too bad their "cooperating witness" will come off as looking bad, so I hope they have much more to prove who actually murdered Maria and Gabriel. I am praying for true justice in this case.

JMO:patriot:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Good Morning Candy!

Yes, imo it does make a difference. This case is already heartbreaking enough without rumors and misinformation being dumped in as truth by the media just to make the case more gory to boost their ratings and Nancy Grace never retracts any of the misinformation she so recklessly puts out. Not in this case or any other case.

imoo [/*]

Good morning Everyone! So good to see both Martha and Candy back. :seeya:

NG never corrects any of her misinformation. IMO, she barges on as if her misinformation never came from her lips to our ears.

jmoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Good morning Everyone! So good to see both Martha and Candy back. :seeya:

NG never corrects any of her misinformation. IMO, she barges on as if her misinformation never came from her lips to our ears.

jmoo [/*]

Morning Nuttin and not only that but she will run for days upon days on the same false misinformation...adding to it as the truth when it is so far from it. :(

I haven't watched her in about a month now. She just makes me so uncomfortable with the way she treats people sometimes. The bulldog style is just not my cup of tea.

imo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Good morning Everyone! So good to see both Martha and Candy back. :seeya:

NG never corrects any of her misinformation. IMO, she barges on as if her misinformation never came from her lips to our ears.

jmoo [/*]

Apparently it's easy to do on the web. I hear that while I am having problems with my computer, the word coming from the fowl is that I was banned or denied access. That could not be further from the truth. I simply didn't want to bother Coldwater and have tried to figure it out on my own. I wasn't denied access but the driven agenda of a misguided poster continues to spread hate on the web IMO.

I'm curious about who will be or is enroute to Mexico?????

Could it be the court appointed attorney? I would think his parents would be going down if possible without an entourage of reporters.

:read: JMO

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Apparently it's easy to do on the web. I hear that while I am having problems with my computer, the word coming from the fowl is that I was banned or denied access. That could not be further from the truth. I simply didn't want to bother Coldwater and have tried to figure it out on my own. I wasn't denied access but the driven agenda of a misguided poster continues to spread hate on the web IMO.

I'm curious about who will be or is enroute to Mexico?????

Could it be the court appointed attorney? I would think his parents would be going down if possible without an entourage of reporters.

:read: JMO [/*]

LOL Well let them talk their nonsense.

For Lindell to be a crime reporter he sure hangs back a lot with the information he says he knows. I don't see what the big deal is if he knows who went Monday to Mexico then why not print it?:shrug:

imoo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Apparently it's easy to do on the web. I hear that while I am having problems with my computer, the word coming from the fowl is that I was banned or denied access. That could not be further from the truth. I simply didn't want to bother Coldwater and have tried to figure it out on my own. I wasn't denied access but the driven agenda of a misguided poster continues to spread hate on the web IMO.

I'm curious about who will be or is enroute to Mexico?????

Could it be the court appointed attorney? I would think his parents would be going down if possible without an entourage of reporters.

:read: JMO [/*]

CK, let 'em think what they wanna think, LOL.

LK isn't coming off the name for some reason. I don't know if he can't say yet or not say at all. But why add that tidbit? Teaser perhaps?

I think the person either going to or has already left is Wally Paramore. I don't know what, if anything he can do since I was have the understanding the extradition has to be worked out between the Mexican authorities and our State Department and/or the Justice Department.

Whatever the case may be, I so hope the extradition process is fast rather than slow.

jmoo

[Kel65]

Candy - Spring cleaning please!

Did anyone find out what Philp from WNCT in on to?

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Kel65
Candy - Spring cleaning please!

Did anyone find out what Philp from WNCT in on to? [/*]

I have not heard Kel. I still have some kinks here but will try again.

I thought it involves IP addresses and hoped to see someone here figure it out. Nobody has any ideas on that? JMO.

[martha]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Morning Nuttin and not only that but she will run for days upon days on the same false misinformation...adding to it as the truth when it is so far from it. :(

I haven't watched her in about a month now. She just makes me so uncomfortable with the way she treats people sometimes. The bulldog style is just not my cup of tea.

imo [/*]I don;t like the way she treats her guest sometimes and she can be so rude to her lawyers she has on I don;t understand why any of them come on her show. she always thinks what she says is the way it is. good to see everyone :rose:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by martha
I don;t like the way she treats her guest sometimes and she can be so rude to her lawyers she has on I don;t understand why any of them come on her show. she always thinks what she says is the way it is. good to see everyone :rose: [/*]

She does have a tendency to go beyond rude with her guests. NG asks a question and if the answer isn't what she wants to hear, bam, she cuts them off.

As to the IP addresses, it appears that CSL (or someone else) used two different computers at two different places. That's obvious but only RR and OCSO knows the locations for those two different places.

With that being said, I wonder what the reporter from WNCT has come up with? I have been checking their website and have seen nothing so far.

jmoo

Good to see you martha. Hope you are feeling much better.

[Marcia3]

Good morning, posters!

So glad to see CK, Martha, and the long-lost/much-missed Calla are back!

I see nothing much in the way of news for now...:(

I'm probably going to wander over to the LK site and see what all the fuss is about...

Anyway, will be checking in again after I'm done :read: at "that other site."

Cheers!

[martha]

Oh my I hope it is not Geraldo another one I don;t like to watch. He took gbt word in the ans case. I don;t think he does good reporting eather. jmho:rose:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by martha
Oh my I hope it is not Geraldo another one I don;t like to watch. He took gbt word in the ans case. I don;t think he does good reporting eather. jmho:rose: [/*]

I'd like to see Mark Furhman secure an interview with Cesar and I guess he would go courtesy of Greta and her show if it happened. JMO tho martha. :)

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES




I'm curious about who will be or is enroute to Mexico?????

Could it be the court appointed attorney? I would think his parents would be going down if possible without an entourage of reporters.

:read: JMO [/*]

Good "noon" CK :seeya: You might be right about it being the attorney. I hope we hear more information on that soon.

[martha]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I'd like to see Mark Furhman secure an interview with Cesar and I guess he would go courtesy of Greta and her show if it happened. JMO tho martha. :) [/*] ITA with you CK I really think greta tryes to do her best when covering a story. I think she is fair with her guest. When she is wrong she don;t care to say that she is wrong. some of the shows or just to get a better rateing. MF would be a good one to do it. If I was cl mother and daddy I would have been on my way to mexico but I think le has told everyone in this case to not talk to anyone about the case and not let anyone know what is going on.jmho:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by martha
ITA with you CK I really think greta tryes to do her best when covering a story. I think she is fair with her guest. When she is wrong she don;t care to say that she is wrong. some of the shows or just to get a better rateing. MF would be a good one to do it. If I was cl mother and daddy I would have been on my way to mexico but I think le has told everyone in this case to not talk to anyone about the case and not let anyone know what is going on.jmho:rose: [/*]

I agree with you about Greta.

MF.....he's another story. Can't stand that man.

[IvySterling]

Good morning/afternoon again everyone!

Hopefuly today more information will be released, any info. at this point is something new to discuss.

[Marcia3]

I don't know who posted at the KL site using my nic and my sig line, but it wasn't me. Swear it!

What's going on over there anyway? Did somebody leave the door unlocked at the loony tunes house and there were some escapes?

Anyway, nothing new here again today. No news on search warrants or word from Mexico? Any idea of who went there and why?

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Marcia3
I don't know who posted at the KL site using my nic and my sig line, but it wasn't me. Swear it!

What's going on over there anyway? Did somebody leave the door unlocked at the loony tunes house and there were some escapes?

Anyway, nothing new here again today. No news on search warrants or word from Mexico? Any idea of who went there and why? [/*]
Don't worry about the names being used over at OTC, they're even using CW's name :rolleyes:

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Don't worry about the names being used over at OTC, they're even using CW's name :rolleyes: [/*]

I saw that! Weird.

Wish I had that kind of time on my hands, maybe I could get around to some of the things I need to do and haven't had time!

[baywench]

Originally posted by Marcia3


I saw that! Weird.

Wish I had that kind of time on my hands, maybe I could get around to some of the things I need to do and haven't had time! [/*]

As I've said, I just don't go over there...maybe it's time to boycott that site? JMO

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by baywench


As I've said, I just don't go over there...maybe it's time to boycott that site? JMO [/*]

I'm not that sold on LK anyway, and rarely go there. So I could boycott it...not hard to do when it's not a sacrifice!

:biggrin:

[hinman]

Checking in to see if there is any new news. Guess not:(

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by hinman
Checking in to see if there is any new news. Guess not:( [/*]

No, very quiet. Never thought I'd see the day when this thread was two days long...and only four pages! We used to do that in 15 minutes...once they get him back here, I'm hoping the information starts flowing again.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Marcia3


No, very quiet. Never thought I'd see the day when this thread was two days long...and only four pages! We used to do that in 15 minutes...once they get him back here, I'm hoping the information starts flowing again. [/*]I remember them days.

I can't wait for the trial. I do not go to the other site unless some one references it here. They can use my name all they want, not going to let it bother me.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by hinman
I remember them days.

I can't wait for the trial. I do not go to the other site unless some one references it here. They can use my name all they want, not going to let it bother me. [/*]
I'm not waiting for the trial, too far off. I'm waiting to hear what information Onslow LE knows, including the remainder of the Search Warrants.

[hinman]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I'm not waiting for the trial, too far off. I'm waiting to hear what information Onslow LE knows, including the remainder of the Search Warrants. [/*]That would be nice. I doubt if we will get all the info we need to know before the trial. I do hope so though,

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by hinman
I remember them days.

I can't wait for the trial. I do not go to the other site unless some one references it here. They can use my name all they want, not going to let it bother me. [/*]

I just didn't believe my eyes when I saw my nic and my sig line...thought maybe I had a twin somewhere that I didn't know about! :D

I'm afraid that we won't hear everything we want to know until the trial.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Marcia3


I just didn't believe my eyes when I saw my nic and my sig line...thought maybe I had a twin somewhere that I didn't know about! :D

I'm afraid that we won't hear everything we want to know until the trial. [/*] To be honoest I hope the site does not get shut down. Lindell keeps us talking over here.

It is a shame that a case has divided posters so much. I have enjoyed all the posters. They all brought ideas to the forum.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Marcia3


I just didn't believe my eyes when I saw my nic and my sig line...thought maybe I had a twin somewhere that I didn't know about! :D

I'm afraid that we won't hear everything we want to know until the trial. [/*]

Same here Marcia. Lindell is thinking there will be several hundred pages released this week tho.

I don't think he'll be confirming who was/is going to Mexico.

I wonder if Cesar's parents have made contact with him there yet or are making plans to see him?

jmo

[hinman]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Same here Marcia. Lindell is thinking there will be several hundred pages released this week tho.

I don't think he'll be confirming who was/is going to Mexico.

I wonder if Cesar's parents have made contact with him there yet or are making plans to see him?

jmo [/*]Several hundred :eek:
That will be nice.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by hinman
Several hundred :eek:
That will be nice. [/*]

Yep and he'll get them up and out as quickly as he can hinman. Then maybe we can get rolling again with some research. Tho many are researching behind closed doors too. ;) JMO

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Same here Marcia. Lindell is thinking there will be several hundred pages released this week tho.

I don't think he'll be confirming who was/is going to Mexico.

I wonder if Cesar's parents have made contact with him there yet or are making plans to see him?

jmo [/*]

Several hundred pages of what? I must've missed something.

I've wondered about CAL's parents as well. In their shoes, I would just want to see my son and talk to him ASAP, regardless of what he has been accused of doing.

[IvySterling]

~SNIP
Originally posted by Marcia3


Several hundred pages of what? I must've missed something.
[/*]
Lindell said when the search warrants are unsealed he will get them and he expects there to be between two and three hundred pages.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Marcia3


Several hundred pages of what? I must've missed something.

I've wondered about CAL's parents as well. In their shoes, I would just want to see my son and talk to him ASAP, regardless of what he has been accused of doing. [/*]

Paperwork from this case including some search warrants, other subphoenas and any other info that is for public release imo.

JMO.

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~SNIP

Lindell said when the search warrants are unsealed he will get them and he expects there to be between two and three hundred pages. [/*]

Thanks...now that would be something to sink our teeth into, huh?

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~SNIP

Lindell said when the search warrants are unsealed he will get them and he expects there to be between two and three hundred pages. [/*]

If anyone wants to print any of the documents that are about to be released, you would be wise to have an extra ink cartridge or two handy.

Mike McHugh posted earlier that TJ Cavanagh, one of the investigators in this case, was seen at the Superior Court Records Office today handing the clerk "a bulging manila envelope filled with documents pertaining to the investigation."

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=128#comment-1721 (his comment was made at 5:44pm)

[Babes]

Does the emricks ( husband and wife ) have lawyers too? - If you ask me why ( and will tell me that they dont need it ) then my answer is - I am just curious

[nuttintodo]

Haven't heard a peep about the Emrick's having a lawyer, Babes.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Babes
Does the emricks ( husband and wife ) have lawyers too? - If you ask me why ( and will tell me that they dont need it ) then my answer is - I am just curious [/*]

Babes, you might try to squeeze that one in the last series of questions. I think he's working them now. JMO.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


If anyone wants to print any of the documents that are about to be released, you would be wise to have an extra ink cartridge or two handy.

Mike McHugh posted earlier that TJ Cavanagh, one of the investigators in this case, was seen at the Superior Court Records Office today handing the clerk "a bulging manila envelope filled with documents pertaining to the investigation."

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=128#comment-1721 (his comment was made at 5:44pm) [/*]
Thanks nuttin :) I think I'll just bookmark them when they're put online, but I can hardly wait to read them!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by sunstar

Thanks nuttin :) I think I'll just bookmark them when they're put online, but I can hardly wait to read them! [/*]

Hi Sun...another no news day.

CS is supposed to answer some more questions though on Lindell's blog but it sure is taking him a long time. His new baby must need changing, feeding or rocked to sleep first.:)

imoo

[nuttintodo]

http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-04-23-0039.html

Rep. Mike Turner Will Call on DOD to Investigate Handling of Rape and Murder Case of Maria Lauterbach

Victim's Mother and Ohio Congressman to Call for Answers at Press Conference

But in a hurry to get the information out someone forgot to check the facts....

On May 11, 2007, Marine Lance Corporal Maria Lauterbach reported to her chain of command at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina that she had been raped by fellow Marine Corporal Cesar Laurean. Seven months later, on or about December 14, 2007, the burned remains of LCpl Maria Lauterbach and her unborn child, Gabriel Joseph, were found buried in a shallow grave in the backyard of the home of fellow Cpl Cesar Laurean.

I thought Maria was killed on 12/14 and was found on 1/11...


jmoo

[IvySterling]

Well, no need in staying logged in here, everyone from here is posting over at OTC!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Hi Sun...another no news day.

CS is supposed to answer some more questions though on Lindell's blog but it sure is taking him a long time. His new baby must need changing, feeding or rocked to sleep first.:)

imoo [/*]
I keep checking over there too to see if he's answered them, but I can sure understand if the baby is his priority now and wouldn't blame him at all!! :D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Well, no need in staying logged in here, everyone from here is posting over at OTC! [/*]
:eek: Not me!

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by sunstar

I keep checking over there too to see if he's answered them, but I can sure understand if the baby is his priority now and wouldn't blame him at all!! :D [/*]
It's going to take some time I'd imagine for him to go through all the muck in the Q&A section.

It would have been easier for him if the posters would have posted one question at a time instead of an entire paragraph of them.

[hinman]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Well, no need in staying logged in here, everyone from here is posting over at OTC! [/*]:lol:

[hinman]

Originally posted by IvySterling

It's going to take some time I'd imagine for him to go through all the muck in the Q&A section.

It would have been easier for him if the posters would have posted one question at a time instead of an entire paragraph of them. [/*]Are the questions pretty good?

I probably should venture over there and take a peek, I was trying to avoid it though.

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

:eek: Not me! [/*]

Me neither. Not much going on with the case right now so I'm just kinda dropping in here every now and then. You all have a good one.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Well, no need in staying logged in here, everyone from here is posting over at OTC! [/*]

Well 'you' did earlier Ivy! ;)

Heck it appears we all did at some point today...there's Marcia3, hinman...oh my someone had WAY too much time on their hands. Oh wait someone should have been sitting on their hands!

[hinman]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Well 'you' did earlier Ivy! ;)

Heck it appears we all did at some point today...there's Marcia3, hinman...oh my someone had WAY too much time on their hands. Oh wait someone should have been sitting on their hands! [/*]I snuck over there to check it out, to see the boxing thing everyone was talking about, I swear that I had just posted here and low and behold not even a minute later my name showed up there I was like :chicken:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
Are the questions pretty good?

I probably should venture over there and take a peek, I was trying to avoid it though. [/*]

Just don't step foot into the Boxing Ring!:eek: :chicken:

imoo

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by hinman
Are the questions pretty good?

I probably should venture over there and take a peek, I was trying to avoid it though. [/*]:seeya: Most questions are ones he's answered before or stated he could not answer ! But he did say he would respond to the Q&A with a post at 6:54 pm, but just checked & he hasn't yet. I don't post at the playground either, it's scary in there:chicken:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
I snuck over there to check it out, to see the boxing thing everyone was talking about, I swear that I had just posted here and low and behold not even a minute later my name showed up there I was like :chicken: [/*]

Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by IvySterling

It's going to take some time I'd imagine for him to go through all the muck in the Q&A section.

It would have been easier for him if the posters would have posted one question at a time instead of an entire paragraph of them. [/*]

True Ivy, I spoke to LK earlier today and he expressed concern about the same thing. It's pretty much done when these people are off the clock (these people being Rick Sutherland, Lindell Kay, and Mike McHugh) and the easier it is, the more everyone benefits.

Hopefully if the opportunity comes again for questions, we can all take that into consideration and follow his lead and request. I know posters here are not the only ones asking questions, but we all have to be more considerate.

JMO :)

[hinman]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo [/*]I seen that to funny. Someone has got way to much time on there hands over there and a lot of anger in there heart.

What a shame to spew such junk when in the end it is really about Justice for Maria, that is all everyone wants.

[strick10]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo [/*]

You're a brave one. I haven't stepped foot in that ring.

[hinman]

Originally posted by strick10


You're a brave one. I haven't stepped foot in that ring. [/*]Today was the first day I did I seen my name to. whoever it is is reading the board here because they did not post my name until I posted on here today.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-04-23-0039.html

Rep. Mike Turner Will Call on DOD to Investigate Handling of Rape and Murder Case of Maria Lauterbach

Victim's Mother and Ohio Congressman to Call for Answers at Press Conference

But in a hurry to get the information out someone forgot to check the facts....

On May 11, 2007, Marine Lance Corporal Maria Lauterbach reported to her chain of command at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina that she had been raped by fellow Marine Corporal Cesar Laurean. Seven months later, on or about December 14, 2007, the burned remains of LCpl Maria Lauterbach and her unborn child, Gabriel Joseph, were found buried in a shallow grave in the backyard of the home of fellow Cpl Cesar Laurean.

I thought Maria was killed on 12/14 and was found on 1/11...


jmoo [/*]

Here we go again with media misinformation.:(

This is not surprising ...Turner cant just let it go.

Now when my co-worker friend was murdered the GBI only talked to her family in general terms about the case. They did not release to them intimate details of the investigation which after 4 months resulted in her husband being arrested for the murder.

Sooooooo I wonder if the Lauterbachs or Turner knows the entire story and that Maria and Cesar may have had an intimate consensual affair. Somehow I don't think they would discuss that part of the investigation with them.

My friend's husband had cheated on her but her family was not aware of that until the case came to trial.

imoo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo [/*]

Hopefully things will turn around with the upcoming release of documents. I guess I'll be doing an overhaul on my PC with guiding hands. :D

JMO. No more unknown links and pop-ups. hammer

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10


You're a brave one. I haven't stepped foot in that ring. [/*]

On no I am not strick lol.......I am just a :chicken: spy and read it but I never post. Oh my gosh.......it is unbelievable.

imoo

[hinman]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Here we go again with media misinformation.:(

This is not surprising ...Turner cant just let it go.

Now when my co-worker friend was murdered the GBI only talked to her family in general terms about the case. They did not release to them intimate details of the investigation which after 4 months resulted in her husband being arrested for the murder.

Sooooooo I wonder if the Lauterbachs or Turner knows the entire story and that Maria and Cesar may have had an intimate consensual affair. Somehow I don't think they would discuss that part of the investigation with them.

My friend's husband had cheated on her but her family was not aware of that until the case came to trial.

imoo [/*]GB what is your opinion on them still not closing the rape investigation?

I am really curious why they have not finished that up or do you think they have and just have not announced it publicly? they keep saying it is an ongoing investigation but I do not see what they could be investigating this darn long.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo [/*]

I made two appearances there today and was laughing too.

The things people will do for attention.

I hope they keep their day jobs, that is if they even have one.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
I seen that to funny. Someone has got way to much time on there hands over there and a lot of anger in there heart.

What a shame to spew such junk when in the end it is really about Justice for Maria, that is all everyone wants. [/*]

It is a slugfest for sure but Lindell has it right in a way because it has brought the subjects being discussed in other sections more on topic now.

imoo

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by hinman
GB what is your opinion on them still not closing the rape investigation?

I am really curious why they have not finished that up or do you think they have and just have not announced it publicly? they keep saying it is an ongoing investigation but I do not see what they could be investigating this darn long. [/*]

I'm not gb, but i think they need just cause to collect his dna. and keeping that investigation open gives them that. if the case were closed, they would really have no reason to collect it. jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Hopefully things will turn around with the upcoming release of documents. I guess I'll be doing an overhaul on my PC with guiding hands. :D

JMO. No more unknown links and pop-ups. hammer [/*]

All's well now?

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Here we go again with media misinformation.:(

This is not surprising ...Turner cant just let it go.

Now when my co-worker friend was murdered the GBI only talked to her family in general terms about the case. They did not release to them intimate details of the investigation which after 4 months resulted in her husband being arrested for the murder.

Sooooooo I wonder if the Lauterbachs or Turner knows the entire story and that Maria and Cesar may have had an intimate consensual affair. Somehow I don't think they would discuss that part of the investigation with them.

My friend's husband had cheated on her but her family was not aware of that until the case came to trial.

imoo [/*]

So, they are going to be in DC eh? I am wondering what is being done to promote it as there was nothing on my local news earlier. I will stay up and try to catch the 11 o'clock news to see if there is anything. UNREAL, isn't it?

Nutty, I almost forgot about you. :biggrin:

JMO (you're off now)

[hinman]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I'm not gb, but i think they need just cause to collect his dna. and keeping that investigation open gives them that. if the case were closed, they would really have no reason to collect it. jmo [/*]That makes sense. Thanks MW Good to see you tonight.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
GB what is your opinion on them still not closing the rape investigation?

I am really curious why they have not finished that up or do you think they have and just have not announced it publicly? they keep saying it is an ongoing investigation but I do not see what they could be investigating this darn long. [/*]

I don't really know how they can go forward. I mean even if they do find out Gabriel is his it still does not prove the rape happened and doing the testing would be so mundane just to catch him lying about having sex with Maria and not even worth their time knowing that most likely he is going to get LWOP if found guilty.


So I just don't know to be honest.

imoo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


It is a slugfest for sure but Lindell has it right in a way because it has brought the subjects being discussed in other sections more on topic now.

imoo [/*]

Yes IA too Ocean.

LK might catch some flak but it was the best thing to do. If he didn't, one would have to wade through miles of chaff to get to anything of substance.

jmoo

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by hinman
That makes sense. Thanks MW Good to see you tonight. [/*]

You too...i've been swamped the past few days, but have been keeping up (not at otc...makes my brain hurt)

Drooling over the new warrants to be released.....

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I'm not gb, but i think they need just cause to collect his dna. and keeping that investigation open gives them that. if the case were closed, they would really have no reason to collect it. jmo [/*]

Ah........good thinking.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I made two appearances there today and was laughing too.

The things people will do for attention.

I hope they keep their day jobs, that is if they even have one. [/*]

My face was flushed with embarassment and no one was here but my poochie, Maggie Mae, to see it thank goodness!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I'm not gb, but i think they need just cause to collect his dna. and keeping that investigation open gives them that. if the case were closed, they would really have no reason to collect it. jmo [/*]

Excellent point.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Thank you!

We can blame THAT one on Nancy Grace! :cuss: [/*]

Yes, we can.

Along with a whole host of other maladies.

[baywench]

Originally posted by daniel green


Yes, we can.

Along with a whole host of other maladies. [/*]


O/T Passover....gefilte fish and horseradish....YUMMMMM! Is this the real you btw? I understand there's some sock puppetting going on!

[Babes]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Haven't heard a peep about the Emrick's having a lawyer, Babes. [/*]

Thanks Nuttintodo

:seeya:

[Babes]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Babes, you might try to squeeze that one in the last series of questions. I think he's working them now. JMO. [/*]


awww didnt see this post - Hmmm squeeze where? You mean at the Boxing ring errr i mean the jdnews site? :D

[Babes]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well someone was accusing someone else today of being me. lol I just laughed when I read it and watched the cat fighting and hissing.:D

imoo [/*]

Interesting. I love to see it :seeya:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Babes



awww didnt see this post - Hmmm squeeze where? You mean at the Boxing ring errr i mean the jdnews site? :D [/*]
No, in the Q&A section where RS posted this:
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=126#comment-1725

[Babes]

Originally posted by IvySterling

No, in the Q&A section where RS posted this:
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=126#comment-1725 [/*]

Thanks. I'll start reading :read:

[crymeariver2006]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=129#comment-1785

Phillip says the report about Congressman Turner wasn't supposed to be released....yet.

I wondered when I clicked on nuttin's link all I got was an update about Obama.

Maybe it's supposed to be released today?

Hope everyone is well, I've been working part time helping a friend get her store website up and running. Keep checking for updates and there just doesn't seem to be any. But remember, tomorrow IS Friday and that's always been the big day for all things legal so we'll see.

:seeya:

[Charlotte]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=129#comment-1785

Phillip says the report about Congressman Turner wasn't supposed to be released....yet.

I wondered when I clicked on nuttin's link all I got was an update about Obama.

Maybe it's supposed to be released today?

[/*]

Yes, the story was supposed to be held by the media until today, but someone at WNCT goofed and posted the story last evening. When they realized the error, it was pulled back down, but since the agreement to hold the story was only until today, it'll most likely go back up now. Lindell Kay got permission from Rep. Turner's office to go ahead with the story yesterday, since it was already out there by WNCT's mistake.

[lili]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Hey I'm not defending CL by ANY stretch.

But NG owes it to the public to get her facts straight. [/*]

Well, that's fair.

But when you find a burned body of a person some other person had and affair with or raped (not quitesure which, there) , and you find that person and her foetus burned and burried in someone's backyard, you have to ask why? Don't you???

The history is there. If there's any suggestion that someone else broke into the Laurean backyard, made a pit and burned Maria there, ..... they're nuts. IMO

JMO

[martha]

I don;t think anyone is taking up for cl if he did what they say he did but when I think about all that has been written then it makes me think he could not have done all this on his own??/ the time line and everything elce just does not add up. I really think he had help. ml body would have been heavy??? not sure he could have handled her by him self.just guessing. I still think we or all going to be shocked when we hear the whole story.jmho:rose:

[hinman]

So did Sutherland answer any questions yet?

Hi everyone just checking in for the day.

[caejde]

Originally posted by hinman
So did Sutherland answer any questions yet?

Hi everyone just checking in for the day. [/*]

No, not yet.

[IvySterling]

G-Morning/afternoon again everyone!

[Babes]

Ok let me share something to you from the babbling mouth of someone in our office :

She theorized that Maria and Cesar was at the house when Christina came home after 7pm with Amber and Tyler Emrick and they are drunk. She got mad upon knowing Maria was there and there was a big argument. Tyler punched Cesar and he lost it and fell asleep. Christina then killed Maria and when Cesar came back from his senses, Christina told Cesar that Maria committed suicide and slashed her throat and told Cesar that he needed to help bury the body as they would think he killed her as Maria brought rape charges to him. What do you think of this theory?

Hmmmm ill wait till Cesar speak up
:D

[hinman]

Originally posted by Babes
Ok let me share something to you from the babbling mouth of someone in our office :

She theorized that Maria and Cesar was at the house when Christina came home after 7pm with Amber and Tyler Emrick and they are drunk. She got mad upon knowing Maria was there and there was a big argument. Tyler punched Cesar and he lost it and fell asleep. Christina then killed Maria and when Cesar came back from his senses, Christina told Cesar that Maria committed suicide and slashed her throat and told Cesar that he needed to help bury the body as they would think he killed her as Maria brought rape charges to him. What do you think of this theory?

Hmmmm ill wait till Cesar speak up
:D [/*]There is a theory I have not heard yet.

[Babes]

Originally posted by hinman
There is a theory I have not heard yet. [/*]

What do you think about that theory?

[hinman]

Originally posted by Babes


What do you think about that theory? [/*]Hey anything is possible with this case. I don't think that CL was totally innocent in the murder though and framed.

but who the heck knows with this case, it is an interesting twist:shrug:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Babes


What do you think about that theory? [/*]
If CSL, Tyler & Amber were together, where was Brianna?

[GentleBreeze]

Does anyone think Sutherland has changed his mind and will not answer anymore questions. I have already thought by posting answers on a blog it may come back to haunt him in the trial.

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Babes
Ok let me share something to you from the babbling mouth of someone in our office :

She theorized that Maria and Cesar was at the house when Christina came home after 7pm with Amber and Tyler Emrick and they are drunk. She got mad upon knowing Maria was there and there was a big argument. Tyler punched Cesar and he lost it and fell asleep. Christina then killed Maria and when Cesar came back from his senses, Christina told Cesar that Maria committed suicide and slashed her throat and told Cesar that he needed to help bury the body as they would think he killed her as Maria brought rape charges to him. What do you think of this theory?

Hmmmm ill wait till Cesar speak up
:D [/*]

Well as SB says "its possible"....:)

I had already thought if he had gone somewhere after Maria left the first time with one of his friends to do something and came back in and this had already happened and CSL told him Maria came over there acting really strange and cut her throat right in front of her. He could have thought the blood pooling around her head was from the gaping neck wound.

So your friend's theory doesn't sound all that hard for me to believe.

Oh I have no doubt whether he did this or didn't he knew who LE was going to point their fingers at. He isn't that dumb.

imoo

[Babes]

Originally posted by IvySterling

If CSL, Tyler & Amber were together, where was Brianna? [/*]

My Co-worker said Amber possibly stayed with Brianna in the car while Tyler and Christina went inside :)

[Babes]

Originally posted by hinman
Hey anything is possible with this case. I don't think that CL was totally innocent in the murder though and framed.

but who the heck knows with this case, it is an interesting twist:shrug: [/*]

My co-worker said , Tyler looks like the guy in the ATM video and not Laurean and she also thinks that Tyler is possibly the one who punched Maria on the face.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Babes
What do you think of this theory?

*snipped*

[/*]

Far-fetched. I think Cesar did it and did it alone.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


*snipped*

Does anyone think Sutherland has changed his mind and will not answer anymore questions. I have already thought by posting answers on a blog it may come back to haunt him in the trial.

imoo [/*]

Perhaps. But then also, whatever he answers/states/opines everyone just makes mincemeat out of.

:shrug:

[Babes]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Far-fetched. I think Cesar did it and did it alone. [/*]

Oh am not expecting you to believe any theory that will involve Christina in the murder anyway :D - But it's cool - i respect your opinion. :seeya:

[Babes]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well as SB says "its possible"....:)

I had already thought if he had gone somewhere after Maria left the first time with one of his friends to do something and came back in and this had already happened and CSL told him Maria came over there acting really strange and cut her throat right in front of her. He could have thought the blood pooling around her head was from the gaping neck wound.

So your friend's theory doesn't sound all that hard for me to believe.

Oh I have no doubt whether he did this or didn't he knew who LE was going to point their fingers at. He isn't that dumb.

imoo [/*]

I am open on this case till i hear the other side or wait everything on the trial. I do believe that Cesar will go to JAIL but i dont want people that are supposed to be in jail to remain FREE as a bird :seeya:

[hinman]

Originally posted by Babes


My co-worker said , Tyler looks like the guy in the ATM video and not Laurean and she also thinks that Tyler is possibly the one who punched Maria on the face. [/*]So then why bury her in CL's back yard why not in his back yard where no one would think to look? They did have a month to think of this.

I mean it is possible and maybe CL will use that in his defense but I really think he is the guilty party. You would think the man would stay behind and fight this instead of running to Mexico if he was innocent.

Now he could be the one who punched Maria in the face, and he could of helped CL but I still think that more then likely it was Cl who killed Maria.

I would have to have more facts before saying Tyler was invovled. I wonder if he has an alibi?

[Babes]

Originally posted by hinman
So then why bury her in CL's back yard why not in his back yard where no one would think to look? They did have a month to think of this.

I mean it is possible and maybe CL will use that in his defense but I really think he is the guilty party. You would think the man would stay behind and fight this instead of running to Mexico if he was innocent.

Now he could be the one who punched Maria in the face, and he could of helped CL but I still think that more then likely it was Cl who killed Maria.

I would have to have more facts before saying Tyler was invovled. I wonder if he has an alibi? [/*]

Because this isnt a pre-meditated murder. And why would they choose any backyard to bury her when they could just hide her body in the woods? IMO she was buried in CL's backyard because there is no plan to kill her or else she will be killed somewhere else and her body will be dumped somewhere else. They have a month to dispose it but wasnt able to dispose it. Why?

w/ CL as a guilty party, yes but i dont know to what extent. but i would think that if 3 people will point out you killed the woman then you dont have a choice but to run and he has the highest motive to kill her as well. IMO.

But yes i agree, we need informations. This is just a theory that my friend has - we will wait and see and she's willing to eat crow with us if she's wrong lol

[hinman]

Originally posted by Babes


Because this isnt a pre-meditated murder. And why would they choose any backyard to bury her when they could just hide her body in the woods? IMO she was buried in CL's backyard because there is no plan to kill her or else she will be killed somewhere else and her body will be dumped somewhere else. They have a month to dispose it but wasnt able to dispose it. Why?

w/ CL as a guilty party, yes but i dont know to what extent. but i would think that if 3 people will point out you killed the woman then you dont have a choice but to run and he has the highest motive to kill her as well. IMO.

But yes i agree, we need informations. This is just a theory that my friend has - we will wait and see and she's willing to eat crow with us if she's wrong lol [/*]I hope there is evidence that he killed her though not just here say and circumstantial crap.

I don't think her theory is bad. It is possible I am just not ready to say that is what happened. I think I just got in my head that CL is the responsible party for this brutal murder. Now I can see Tyler helping with the moving of the cars, well at least I feel that he had to help with moving the cars so someone helped him in that area.

[Babes]

Originally posted by hinman
I hope there is evidence that he killed her though not just here say and circumstantial crap.

I don't think her theory is bad. It is possible I am just not ready to say that is what happened. I think I just got in my head that CL is the responsible party for this brutal murder. Now I can see Tyler helping with the moving of the cars, well at least I feel that he had to help with moving the cars so someone helped him in that area. [/*]

I understand. I just thought that i should just throw my friend's theory here as i didnt hear it on this board before ;)

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by hinman
So then why bury her in CL's back yard why not in his back yard where no one would think to look? They did have a month to think of this.

I mean it is possible and maybe CL will use that in his defense but I really think he is the guilty party. You would think the man would stay behind and fight this instead of running to Mexico if he was innocent.

Now he could be the one who punched Maria in the face, and he could of helped CL but I still think that more then likely it was Cl who killed Maria.

I would have to have more facts before saying Tyler was invovled. I wonder if he has an alibi? [/*]

That's just it for me. I'm not dragging Tyler into it even with a theory with nothing at all to back it up.

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Far-fetched. I think Cesar did it and did it alone. [/*]

ITA. CAL is guilty of killing Maria and Gabriel, period, IMO. CSL may have been involved in the coverup somehow, but I'm hoping that CAL will feel compelled to tell what happened when he returns so that Maria's family and loved ones can have a bit of closure.

JMO of course.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Babes


I am open on this case till i hear the other side or wait everything on the trial. I do believe that Cesar will go to JAIL but i don't want people that are supposed to be in jail to remain FREE as a bird :seeya: [/*]

Me too. I have not closed myself off to any possibilities. I believe if only one side of the story is told the truth will never be revealed.

Cesar Laurean has his own truth and I hope he comes back and tells his side. I can understand why he would flee......there was just too much history involving him and this victim......only he knows what all he is guilty of and he would know for certain they were going to think he did the entire thing.

I am not convinced he did it alone and I want full justice for Maria and Gabriel.........not partial justice.

imoo

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Coldwater
To all posters who are concerned with what is going on at that other board or the posters there, please discuss it OVER THERE.
We have enough of our own garbage here, we don't need there's.

Thank you for your cooperation. [/*]
Sorry CW

[martha]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Me too. I have not closed myself off to any possibilities. I believe if only one side of the story is told the truth will never be revealed.

Cesar Laurean has his own truth and I hope he comes back and tells his side. I can understand why he would flee......there was just too much history involving him and this victim......only he knows what all he is guilty of and he would know for certain they were going to think he did the entire thing.

I am not convinced he did it alone and I want full justice for Maria and Gabriel.........not partial justice.

imoo [/*]ITA with you GB I think we all have to keep a open mind to everything. jmho:rose:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by martha
ITA with you GB I think we all have to keep a open mind to everything. jmho:rose: [/*]

Hello Martha!

Yes, until we know the facts imo nothing can be discounted.

We sure need some news though. I hope they will be releasing the various search warrants soon. If affidavits are attached those are the most interesting and then we can get a glimpse into what LE was thinking at the time.

imoo:seeya:

[scillak]

I used to get to this board by going to CNN's Crime page and then clicking on "People are Talking", but that's gone now, unless I'm missing something ??

I left for a week of vacation on the Friday after Cesar was captured in Mexico. Hubby read it Thursday night and told me they caught a Marine in Mexico, wondering if it was the case I'd been watching. I missed all your conversations! It was making me nuts. But, I have to admit I had such a nice week that I was able to push it to the back of my mind. I've been popping in and reading since I got back. The case hasn't gotten any clearer, but I've stopped my Christina theory based on Det Sutherland's comments that LE thinks she played no role in the homicide.

Anyway, glad to be keeping up with things again.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by scillak
I used to get to this board by going to CNN's Crime page and then clicking on "People are Talking", but that's gone now, unless I'm missing something ??

I left for a week of vacation on the Friday after Cesar was captured in Mexico. Hubby read it Thursday night and told me they caught a Marine in Mexico, wondering if it was the case I'd been watching. I missed all your conversations! It was making me nuts. But, I have to admit I had such a nice week that I was able to push it to the back of my mind. I've been popping in and reading since I got back. The case hasn't gotten any clearer, but I've stopped my Christina theory based on Det Sutherland's comments that LE thinks she played no role in the homicide.

Anyway, glad to be keeping up with things again. [/*]

Welcome back scillak.

Not much news since then and it has been pretty quiet around here this week.

My theory on Christina still stands. Just because she may not be involved in the homicide itself doesn't mean she wasn't involved in some manner. I have noticed like the cooperating witness label they have attached to her they too are very specific when they say no involvement in THE homicide. They have not said that she had no involment in the cover up or clean up.

imoo

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by scillak
I used to get to this board by going to CNN's Crime page and then clicking on "People are Talking", but that's gone now, unless I'm missing something ??

I left for a week of vacation on the Friday after Cesar was captured in Mexico. Hubby read it Thursday night and told me they caught a Marine in Mexico, wondering if it was the case I'd been watching. I missed all your conversations! It was making me nuts. But, I have to admit I had such a nice week that I was able to push it to the back of my mind. I've been popping in and reading since I got back. The case hasn't gotten any clearer, but I've stopped my Christina theory based on Det Sutherland's comments that LE thinks she played no role in the homicide.

Anyway, glad to be keeping up with things again. [/*]

welcome back, scillak. They are supposed to be unsealing 200-300 documents soon - hopefully tomorrow.

[CANDYKISSES]

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/lauterbach_56203___article.html/marine_handling.html

An Ohio congressman who says he is not satisfied with the Marine Corps' answers about the handling of a Marine's allegations that she was raped by the man now accused of killing her, is asking the Department of Defense to step in.

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I think this is far too early to be looking for an assist from Congress given that we have yet to see a trial. I understand the need to look at the overall handling of this case. However, an investigation right now can only compromise what is a critical piece of a right to a fair trial.

How could anyone not be biased after a Congressional Hearing on this subject matter?

I'm not opposed to the idea itself, just the timing, not to mention Turner courting some nineteen other members beforehand with Mary Lauterbach....

:o JMO.

[Babes]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze



I am not convinced he did it alone and I want full justice for Maria and Gabriel.........not partial justice.

imoo [/*]


ITA
:seeya:

I have a feeling that there will be more suprises on this case.

:seeya:

[Pag Boi]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


They are supposed to be unsealing 200-300 documents soon - hopefully tomorrow. [/*]

200-300 Pages expected to be unsealed.

[Babes]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES
http://www.jdnews.com/articles/lauterbach_56203___article.html/marine_handling.html

An Ohio congressman who says he is not satisfied with the Marine Corps' answers about the handling of a Marine's allegations that she was raped by the man now accused of killing her, is asking the Department of Defense to step in.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think this is far too early to be looking for an assist from Congress given that we have yet to see a trial. I understand the need to look at the overall handling of this case. However, an investigation right now can only compromise what is a critical piece of a right to a fair trial.

How could anyone not be biased after a Congressional Hearing on this subject matter?

I'm not opposed to the idea itself, just the timing, not to mention Turner courting some nineteen other members beforehand with Mary Lauterbach....

:o JMO. [/*]

IMO there will be no rape case on the state trial and IMO they would like the Department of Defense to look at any Rape case charges brought in by women ( not only by Maria ) to the Military and see if they properly process it.

[martha]

Originally posted by Babes



ITA
:seeya:

I have a feeling that there will be more suprises on this case.

:seeya: [/*]ITA I just hope cl will tell the truth and not cover up for anyone. He sounded like he was really scared which if he did this by him self then he needs to be scared. I just wonder if his mother and daddy has been to see him. could his wife go see him if she wanted to? I think le has told them aall to keep quite on this case. jmho maybe we will hear something tomorrow. I sure hope so. I wonder if his little girl is asking for him. This is such an awful case all the way around. :rose:

[strick10]

Originally posted by Babes


IMO there will be no rape case on the state trial and IMO they would like the Department of Defense to look at any Rape case charges brought in by women ( not only by Maria ) to the Military and see if they properly process it. [/*]

I have to agree with CK. It's too premature to be dallying around congress etc. What bothers me is that the murder is not really the focal point, the alleged rape is their focal point. It should also be noted that DOD has an extremely large hand in setting the rules and regulations for the military services.

[Babes]

Originally posted by martha
ITA I just hope cl will tell the truth and not cover up for anyone. He sounded like he was really scared which if he did this by him self then he needs to be scared. I just wonder if his mother and daddy has been to see him. could his wife go see him if she wanted to? I think le has told them aall to keep quite on this case. jmho maybe we will hear something tomorrow. I sure hope so. I wonder if his little girl is asking for him. This is such an awful case all the way around. :rose: [/*]

Right. I want to hear from his father/mother/or sister Blanca.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by strick10


I have to agree with CK. It's too premature to be dallying around congress etc. What bothers me is that the murder is not really the focal point, the alleged rape is their focal point. It should also be noted that DOD has an extremely large hand in setting the rules and regulations for the military services. [/*]

I was trying to find a reasonable response to Babes, as I truly respect her opinion. But this is what bothers me too.

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FOCUSING ON A RAPE ALLEGATION right now, when the accused is within our reach and we will be seeing a road to justice?

Who wants to see it destroyed by blunders of this magnitude? These people have to think about what they are doing. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make changes, but there is a time and a place for a review of the rape allegations IMO. :patriot:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by scillak
I used to get to this board by going to CNN's Crime page and then clicking on "People are Talking", but that's gone now, unless I'm missing something ??

I left for a week of vacation on the Friday after Cesar was captured in Mexico. Hubby read it Thursday night and told me they caught a Marine in Mexico, wondering if it was the case I'd been watching. I missed all your conversations! It was making me nuts. But, I have to admit I had such a nice week that I was able to push it to the back of my mind. I've been popping in and reading since I got back. The case hasn't gotten any clearer, but I've stopped my Christina theory based on Det Sutherland's comments that LE thinks she played no role in the homicide.

Anyway, glad to be keeping up with things again. [/*]

Welcome back scillak! The board has been very quiet lately.

I never had a Christina theory to begin with so RS's (and others') comments about her didn't come as a great surprise; they only cemented my own feelings about her non-involvement. And I believe it is non-involvement in anything at all, other than communicating with him after he had fled. I have said before, and I reiterate that I feel they truly "like" her (meaning RS and all the others who have spoken out). Although I'm not sure that is the exact right word. A lot of compassion for her at any rate....and belief in her. I think they talked to her in-depth and at length and have other substantiation as well about some of her story.

Well......it's an interesting roller coaster ride and will continue to be, I'm sure.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I was trying to find a reasonable response to Babes, as I truly respect her opinion. But this is what bothers me too.

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FOCUSING ON A RAPE ALLEGATION right now, when the accused is within our reach and we will be seeing a road to justice?

Who wants to see it destroyed by blunders of this magnitude? These people have to think about what they are doing. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make changes, but there is a time and a place for a review of the rape allegations IMO. :patriot: [/*]

Yes! Who was it that said the rape is now history? Daniel I think.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I was trying to find a reasonable response to Babes, as I truly respect her opinion. But this is what bothers me too.

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FOCUSING ON A RAPE ALLEGATION right now, when the accused is within our reach and we will be seeing a road to justice?

Who wants to see it destroyed by blunders of this magnitude? These people have to think about what they are doing. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make changes, but there is a time and a place for a review of the rape allegations IMO. :patriot: [/*]
In all honesty I don't understand Mary at all. To me at this time her entire focus should be on her daughter's murder and finding out the truth.

[hinman]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I was trying to find a reasonable response to Babes, as I truly respect her opinion. But this is what bothers me too.

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FOCUSING ON A RAPE ALLEGATION right now, when the accused is within our reach and we will be seeing a road to justice?

Who wants to see it destroyed by blunders of this magnitude? These people have to think about what they are doing. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make changes, but there is a time and a place for a review of the rape allegations IMO. :patriot: [/*]I think the rape allegations really bother Mary especially when it was looking like they were false add that on top of the murder and for her I can imagine they are the same she might even feel the cause.

I think that is why the issue is being pressed. Not saying if it is the time for this or not. I am curious though why how blunders will destroy the road to justice?

I am not sure if the rape allegations will be brought in to the trial of the murder since he has never been charged.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze
Does anyone think Sutherland has changed his mind and will not answer anymore questions. I have already thought by posting answers on a blog it may come back to haunt him in the trial.

imoo [/*]
Good evening GB :seeya: I think he's put out as much information as he can, and should, and I'd be surprised if we do here much more from him. They're still investigating, and haven't gotten CL back from Mexico yet.

[Babes]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I was trying to find a reasonable response to Babes, as I truly respect her opinion. But this is what bothers me too.

WHY ON EARTH ARE WE FOCUSING ON A RAPE ALLEGATION right now, when the accused is within our reach and we will be seeing a road to justice?

Who wants to see it destroyed by blunders of this magnitude? These people have to think about what they are doing. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make changes, but there is a time and a place for a review of the rape allegations IMO. :patriot: [/*]

Hi Candy :seeya:

The only thing i can think of here is Mary Lauterbach wants full justice for Maria. She would like someone to pay for the Rape Charges while the state works on the murder case against Cesar Laurean because she knew that the state will not bring up the Rape charges against Cesar. ( will possibly use it as part of a motive ) . Yeah they might wait until the murder trial ends but that murder trial can take years specially if Laurean and his Mexican lawyer will fight the extraditions ( and by that time - Turner's time and power might be gone ) .

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Babes


I understand. I just thought that i should just throw my friend's theory here as i didnt hear it on this board before ;) [/*]
Thanks for posting it, Babes, and it is something to think about. I really do believe CL had help with burying/burning Maria, cleaning up, moving her car, and so forth and it's entirely possible someone else was there when she was killed. MOO :)

[Babes]

Originally posted by sunstar

Thanks for posting it, Babes, and it is something to think about. I really do believe CL had help with burying/burning Maria, cleaning up, moving her car, and so forth and it's entirely possible someone else was there when she was killed. MOO :) [/*]

Hi Sunstar

:seeya:

I dont believe in Partial Justice as well just like Ocean.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Babes


Hi Sunstar

:seeya:

I don't believe in Partial Justice as well just like Ocean. [/*]I doubt anybody really believes in partial justice.

I have seen people convicted just because they are not liked. I would hate that more then partial justice. Tor ruin some one's life because someone feels like they were involved yet has no proof would be devastating.

I think that is why I am cautious on who to blame for Maria's death. I would hate to think that if I was related to Christina or friends with Christina then I would be guilty by association.

Anyway just thought I would throw my opinion in on partial justice. To think that there would not have to be evidence to bring someone full justice is freightening.

[Babes]

Capt Sutherland said :

I, also, think that it is possible that Christina had no idea what had occurred in her home when she arrived home that night.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=96#comment-1976


"think"? "possible?" Then how could they rule she's innocent if they are not really sure about this information?

Hmm am confused - Let me go home now and ill login there :)

[StickyBeak]

Hi all, I still check the board every day for any new updates, it's a long haul. Speculation is human nature. I commend those who have kept this thread alive amidst all the controvery. It is mind wrenching, I pray for justice for Maria and her baby and family. Just does not seem to be happening in a timely manner, like right now!. I keep thinking if there is a plea deal, we may never know.
I am not law savy, but I would like to know the "rest of the story" as well. JMO

[hinman]

Originally posted by StickyBeak
Hi all, I still check the board every day for any new updates, it's a long haul. Speculation is human nature. I commend those who have kept this thread alive amidst all the controvery. It is mind wrenching, I pray for justice for Maria and her baby and family. Just does not seem to be happening in a timely manner, like right now!. I keep thinking if there is a plea deal, we may never know.
I am not law savy, but I would like to know the "rest of the story" as well. JMO [/*]Hi SB. I hope we get the rest of the story. I am not sure that LE even know the rest of the story and are hoping for CL to clue them in.

I am not so sure that he would be honest. I hope he would but who knows he could of blocked it out.

Glad you came in to say Hi.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Babes


Hi Sunstar

:seeya:

I dont believe in Partial Justice as well just like Ocean. [/*]
I agree and believe there's some reason they want to talk to CL. There have been other cases go to trial without the suspect being interviewed or interrogated by LE. :)