Tues April 15 Daily Discussion

[hinman]

Originally posted by alter ego

Evidently they have all the info they need to determine, and prove, who committed the homicide. [/*]I thinkhe stated that also in the link.

He sseems confident that the case will be won in trial.

[hinman]

Originally posted by alter ego
That's a sad commentary about our society imo. [/*]It truly is for all the wrongly convicted who never get the suspicion off of them. :rose:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by caejde


Leads me to think they are going to dismiss anything Cesar has to say....especially if he's saying they have everything. And I'm not trying to be argumentative either...but Cesar may have something they don't. Just sayin...... [/*]

Of course they will dismiss it..........he is the defendant. They have charged him with murder way before they got any of the evidence back.

This is what LE and the DA does. They do not believe the defendant .........to do so means they are not sure of their case.

[caejde]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Of course they will dismiss it..........he is the defendant. They have charged him with murder way before they got any of the evidence back.

This is what LE and the DA does. They do not believe the defendant .........to do so means they are not sure of their case. [/*]

I'm not giving Cesar a pass by any means. But I think he deserves to be heard. Never know...he might have something worthwhile to say.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Yes he specifically mentioned "the homicide" [/*]

Good evening, GB.

My point was that they have never said "she is innocent." Investigators do not ever do that, nor do DA's. That's why it was such a huge thing when the AG of NC said that the Duke LAX players were innocent.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by hinman
I thinkhe stated that also in the link.

He sseems confident that the case will be won in trial. [/*]

Most DA's and LE say that.

Just ask Mike Nifong...

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
I think he stated that also in the link.

He seems confident that the case will be won in trial. [/*]

LOL Now have you ever heard another LE official anywhere say their case won't be won at trial?:D

[hinman]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


LOL Now have you ever heard another LE official anywhere say their case won't be won at trial?:D [/*]LOL how true that is:D

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by daniel green


Good evening, GB.

My point was that they have never said "she is innocent." Investigators do not ever do that, nor do DA's. That's why it was such a huge thing when the AG of NC said that the Duke LAX players were innocent. [/*]

Hi Daniel!

Yes that is true.

:seeya:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Of course they will dismiss it..........he is the defendant. They have charged him with murder way before they got any of the evidence back.

This is what LE and the DA does. They do not believe the defendant .........to do so means they are not sure of their case. [/*]
Actually, I think they only don't believe the defendant if the evidence clearly contradicts the defendant's 'story'. I've heard of many a DA say they want to see the defendants reaction to this piece of evidence or hear their answer to a particular question. And I don't recall a DA declining to cross a defendant who took the stand.....

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by caejde


I'm not giving Cesar a pass by any means. But I think he deserves to be heard. Never know...he might have something worthwhile to say. [/*]

I think he most certainly does but maybe it is best he tells his attorneys only and the investigators who will work for his attorney.

imoo

[IvySterling]

Signing off for the night, readya all tomorrow :seeya:

[mini-me]

Originally posted by marinewife5


well, i would hope that they hear him out and verify anything he says. christina is at least guilty of lying by omission, but that doesn't mean that le hasn't believed anything she's said. and i'm sure they checked out what she had to say too and not just took her word. jmo [/*]RS said CSL not involved with murder said nothing about whether she was involved with cover up. He did say no cover up and no deal. Go read it again I took it that LE is not covering up for her.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by daniel green


Good evening, GB.

My point was that they have never said "she is innocent." Investigators do not ever do that, nor do DA's. That's why it was such a huge thing when the AG of NC said that the Duke LAX players were innocent. [/*]uh....the LAX players were charged. Christina is NOT.

Big dif.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by alter ego

Actually, I think they only don't believe the defendant if the evidence clearly contradicts the defendant's 'story'. I've heard of many a DA say they want to see the defendants reaction to this piece of evidence or hear their answer to a particular question. And I don't recall a DA declining to cross a defendant who took the stand..... [/*]

Oh they are only looking for things to help convict him. If he gives them information that is true that does not fit their theory they will dismiss it as lies imo.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by alter ego
uh....the LAX players were charged. Christina is NOT.

Big dif. [/*]

Now that is strange. So many people very early on thought the LAX players were innocent and with Christina it seems most in that town believe Christina is guilty.:)

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by mini-me
RS said CSL not involved with murder said nothing about whether she was involved with cover up. He did say no cover up and no deal. Go read it again I took it that LE is not covering up for her. [/*]

Exactly, mini-me. I caught that right off the bat.

imoo:seeya:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


LOL Now have you ever heard another LE official anywhere say their case won't be won at trial?:D [/*]


hahahahahaha

Nope, never.

They are always soooooo sure that the case will be proved and won at trial.

And defense attys say that their clients will be vindicated.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Oh they are only looking for things to help convict him. If he gives them information that is true that does not fit their theory they will dismiss it as lies imo.

imo [/*]And that's how we get wrongful convictions.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Signing off for the night, readya all tomorrow :seeya: [/*]

:seeya:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Now that is strange. So many people very early on thought the LAX players were innocent and with Christina it seems most in that town believe Christina is guilty.:)

imoo [/*]

Yep. There ya go.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Now that is strange. So many people very early on thought the LAX players were innocent and with Christina it seems most in that town believe Christina is guilty.:)

imoo [/*]Strange indeed.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by mini-me
RS said CSL not involved with murder said nothing about whether she was involved with cover up. He did say no cover up and no deal. Go read it again I took it that LE is not covering up for her. [/*]I took it that she was not involved in a coverup for the murder and that she was not given a deal for her testimony.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by alter ego
I took it that she was not involved in a cover up for the murder and that she was not given a deal for her testimony. [/*]

I don't. I agree with Mini-me. I think CS is saying they are not covering up for her and there is no deal.... which is good. There were many questions asking why all the PR moves for CSL all of a sudden after three months. I think that is what he was referring to that they weren't covering for her.

imoo

[mini-me]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I don't. I agree with Mini-me. I think CS is saying they are not covering up for her and there is no deal.... which is good. There were many questions asking why all the PR moves for CSL all of a sudden after three months. I think that is what he was referring to that they weren't covering for her.

imoo [/*]I am also wondering if all these comments about poor CSl and how she didn't know nothing or wasn't involved is done so when CAl hears he will be riled up and will start talking.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I don't. I agree with Mini-me. I think CS is saying they are not covering up for her and there is no deal.... which is good. There were many questions asking why all the PR moves for CSL all of a sudden after three months. I think that is what he was referring to that they weren't covering for her.

imoo [/*]Always good to have your perspective Ocean!

I see what you and mini are saying.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by mini-me
I am also wondering if all these comments about poor CSl and how she didn't know nothing or wasn't involved is done so when CAl hears he will be riled up and will start talking. [/*]If it's true, would it rile him up?

[mini-me]

Originally posted by alter ego
If it's true, would it rile him up? [/*]Sure it would if he knows she helped him. He's not going to take the rap for this alone.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by mini-me
Sure it would if he knows she helped him. He's not going to take the rap for this alone. [/*]What I mean is, if it's true that Christina had no involvement in the murder or the clean up afterwards and knew nothing about it - would the comments you referred to rile him up?

[nuttintodo]

Here's another thing too...just because OCSD hasn't made a deal with CSL, that doesn't rule out Dewey.

As everyone knows, LE presents their evidence to the DA and the DA is the one who decides the who, when, what and takes that to the GJ.

I really don't care whether CSL is charged with anything. She's the one that has to live with whatever she's done or not done. If she didn't do a thing, I certainly hope she gets some sort of counseling.

But I do have a problem with the use of the word integrity in describing CSL. How can she have integrity when she has been communicating with CAL since February (or whenever) but neglects to inform the LLE? The only way her communicating with CAL is found out by a happenstance, a tip. That's not integrity, IMHO.

If the Feds or whoever didn't get the tip about them communicating to each other, I really do not have the warm and fuzzy feeling she would have ever volunteered that information. For all we know she'd still be chatting with him and would probably have continued to make plans to meet up with him over Memorial Day weekend.

jmoo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by daniel green


Or talking about how the dog was acting in January.

What show on Animal Planet would this even be on? I can't think of one. [/*]

Cesar, the Dog Whisperer

:D

[Kim]

Originally posted by marinewife5


How can he be sure they have all of the info? I'm not trying to argue, I'm seriously wondering how they can be certain they know EVERYTHING. JMO [/*]
Exactly I am on that boat with ya sister!
The suspect hasnt been questioned and the case is made?! sounds like a mistrial already :shrug: MOO (which I value greatly LOL)

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Kim

Exactly I am on that boat with ya sister!
The suspect hasnt been questioned and the case is made?! sounds like a mistrial already :shrug: MOO (which I value greatly LOL) [/*]

I don't see how much clearer they can be.

Oh that's right......we're smarter.

Sorry if I sound snippy, not meaning to come off that way, or to any one poster. It's just that I woke up this morning and read back about 6 pages from overnight, and saw that huge response from RS on the blog, and it's very straightforward. But STILL......still........people are still not getting it.

I will honestly be so happy when the trial does occur, and hopefully then you'll (generic "you") will have the answers you need.

I am fully convinced that Christina had no part in any of this. As GB said, she may always be a "pariah" but that doesn't equate to guilty of murder or cover-up. I believe she is a victim of Cesar's, despite the fact she is still "torn" and loves him. I feel pity for her. Hopefully she will move on with her life and along with her daughter will find future happiness and security.

IMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Yes he specifically mentioned "the homicide" [/*]

:beer: And IMO even that is debatable, but OKAY!

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


:beer: And IMO even that is debatable, but OKAY!

jmo [/*]

It's probably not debatable at all if you had the evidence they do. IMO.

[Kim]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I don't see how much clearer they can be.

Oh that's right......we're smarter.

Sorry if I sound snippy, not meaning to come off that way, or to any one poster. It's just that I woke up this morning and read back about 6 pages from overnight, and saw that huge response from RS on the blog, and it's very straightforward. But STILL......still........people are still not getting it.

I will honestly be so happy when the trial does occur, and hopefully then you'll (generic "you") will have the answers you need.

I am fully convinced that Christina had no part in any of this. As GB said, she may always be a "pariah" but that doesn't equate to guilty of murder or cover-up. I believe she is a victim of Cesar's, despite the fact she is still "torn" and loves him. I feel pity for her. Hopefully she will move on with her life and along with her daughter will find future happiness and security.

IMO. [/*]
I think we are all "smart enough" to know one side doesn't make a story here.Waiting on the other side myself since the first side has so many "holes":no:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Here's another thing too...just because OCSD hasn't made a deal with CSL, that doesn't rule out Dewey.

As everyone knows, LE presents their evidence to the DA and the DA is the one who decides the who, when, what and takes that to the GJ.

I really don't care whether CSL is charged with anything. She's the one that has to live with whatever she's done or not done. If she didn't do a thing, I certainly hope she gets some sort of counseling.

But I do have a problem with the use of the word integrity in describing CSL. How can she have integrity when she has been communicating with CAL since February (or whenever) but neglects to inform the LLE? The only way her communicating with CAL is found out by a happenstance, a tip. That's not integrity, IMHO.

If the Feds or whoever didn't get the tip about them communicating to each other, I really do not have the warm and fuzzy feeling she would have ever volunteered that information. For all we know she'd still be chatting with him and would probably have continued to make plans to meet up with him over Memorial Day weekend.

jmoo [/*]

:patriot: Vegas baby, Vegas and off into the sunset IMO.

I will never think of this woman as anything other than conniving and UNCOOPERATIVE but for to save her own butt. She isn't in this for justice that's for sure and I can only believe it's because before all is said and done, she is going to be on the hot seat.

JMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


It's probably not debatable at all if you had the evidence they do. IMO. [/*]

IMO we have just witnessed Dewey Hudson doing the same thing Mike Nifong did when he tried to ralley the world around the poor girl from Dur'm. But this time the AMERICAN PUBLIC IS NOT BUYING what the DA IS TRYING TO SELL.

You see I know what kind of cooperation a person of integrity would be offering up and communicating with the fugitive would not be on the top of the list IMO.

But let's see, she knew just how far she could go without going to jail.

I wonder if the same could be said about her role in the tragedy we are discussing? :o

barf She disgusts me and the idea of another DA going down over the likes of a person who would cross him is not palatable for me.

Yuck.

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Kim

I think we are all "smart enough" to know one side doesn't make a story here.Waiting on the other side myself since the first side has so many "holes" [/*]

I'm pretty confident in RS and the rest of LE though. I'm sure they have more evidence and information than we do. That IS the bottom line, for me.


:)

[SavannahStar]

Candy, can you start a new thread? I gotta run and will BBL.

:seeya:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
Candy, can you start a new thread? I gotta run and will BBL.

:seeya: [/*]

Babes got it, have a nice day!

;) Support integrity first and foremost! :seeya: