Tues April 15 Daily Discussion

[strick10]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


She could have sent the money via another relative to give to him. I think when RS said they had cut off his resources, this may have been one of them.

I wonder if resources meant plural sources or plural times in sending him money? [/*]

If he was receiving monetary help he sure didn't spend his money wisely. Guess he thought the money would keep coming. JMO.

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by strick10


No you probably don't need alot of money to live in that area but it's obvious he was broke otherwise he wouldn't have been living off the food in the orchards. I've also heard that CAL was wanting to go the Las Vegas and was needing money to make the trip. Wonder if that cabin he was living in belonged to any of his relatives? [/*]

I've been wondering about that story...didn't we first hear that he had been sleeping in fields? Then we hear about the cabin...not exactly the Ritz, but shelter nonetheless. We can't seem to verify that cabin and land belonged to relatives, but, if so, they must have told him about it. I wonder if that qualifies as aiding and abetting?

ETA...just saw the post about the visitor.

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


No, I don't think so. [/*]

Savannah, IIRC Cesar contacted the sister and asked her to give Christina his myspace address. This wasn't planned. jmo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10


No you probably don't need alot of money to live in that area but it's obvious he was broke otherwise he wouldn't have been living off the food in the orchards. I've also heard that CAL was wanting to go the Las Vegas and was needing money to make the trip. Wonder if that cabin he was living in belonged to any of his relatives? [/*]

I think he was eating quite healthy. They said there was two shelves of canned tuna where he stayed and he was eating fruit and the avocados.

I noticed in the photos of the cabin that it looked in good shape and the wood looked somewhat new. It had electricity because I saw a wall outlet on one of the walls close to where he had his boombox.

I think he just did not like the solitary life style. He seems to be a people person imo.

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn


I've been wondering about that story...didn't we first hear that he had been sleeping in fields? Then we hear about the cabin...not exactly the Ritz, but shelter nonetheless. We can't seem to verify that cabin and land belonged to relatives, but, if so, they must have told him about it. I wonder if that qualifies as aiding and abetting?

ETA...just saw the post about the visitor. [/*]

He may have told them that at first not wanting to involve his Uncle.

imoo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't recall the grandmother part. Gonna have to go look as I missed that one. [/*]

It should be in one of the very first links about where he has been captured.

imoo

[strick10]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn


I've been wondering about that story...didn't we first hear that he had been sleeping in fields? Then we hear about the cabin...not exactly the Ritz, but shelter nonetheless. We can't seem to verify that cabin and land belonged to relatives, but, if so, they must have told him about it. I wonder if that qualifies as aiding and abetting?

ETA...just saw the post about the visitor. [/*]

IIRC CAL said he was sleeping in the fields but the locals say he was staying in that cabin. If it does qualify as aiding and abetting then I have to say it's what's defined in the US and as we know it to be, hence, the US can't touch those relative. I don't know the laws in Mexico regarding this.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Did the villagers say that an old woman came to visit him often and they thought it may have been his grandmother?

Yes the rancho was his Uncle's place.

imoo [/*] I thought it was stated as an "older woman", who was assumed to be his Mother by villagers, but it couldn't have been. My thoughts are probably his Aunt who owns all those liquor stores. JMO

[strick10]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Savannah, IIRC Cesar contacted the sister and asked her to give Christina his myspace address. This wasn't planned. jmo [/*]

Oh my. Not that I don't believe you but can you please provide me a link to save me the pain of finding it.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Savannah, IIRC Cesar contacted the sister and asked her to give Christina his myspace address. This wasn't planned. jmo [/*]

Do you have any idea when this was? When he contacted the sister?

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
I thought it was stated as an "older woman", who was assumed to be his Mother by villagers, but it couldn't have been. My thoughts are probably his Aunt who owns all those liquor stores. JMO [/*]

How far is the place he was found from the liquor stores that are owned by his family members?

imoo

[strick10]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I think he was eating quite healthy. They said there was two shelves of canned tuna where he stayed and he was eating fruit and the avocados.

I noticed in the photos of the cabin that it looked in good shape and the wood looked somewhat new. It had electricity because I saw a wall outlet on one of the walls close to where he had his boombox.

I think he just did not like the solitary life style. He seems to be a people person imo.

imoo [/*]

I agree GB. He looked thinner when he was arrested but not starved. Probably thinned out due to not eating so much junk. Never thought of him not liking the solitary life.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


How far is the place he was found from the liquor stores that are owned by his family members?

imoo [/*]

And was any liquor found in the cabin?

:D

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


He may have told them that at first not wanting to involve his Uncle.

imoo [/*]

Yes, that was my thinking when I first heard about the cabin...that he may have been trying to protect someone. He sure didn't look as though he had been sleeping in the fields for 3 months! He may have looked "unkempt" by military standards, but other than that, at least to me, he didn't look that much different than a lot of young guys I see around. I think there is probably more to his life on the lam than we've heard thus far.
imo

[daniel green]

Originally posted by strick10


snipped I don't know the laws in Mexico regarding this. [/*]

Well, as the alleged crime occured in the US, there is no aiding and abetting.

I heard it on CNN this past wkend, that an older women visited him and that the people in the village thought it was his grandmother but that it was the aunt.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


And was any liquor found in the cabin?

:D [/*]

LOL I doubt it! He probably felt he could use a stiff drink though.

I think he spent most of his time and money paying to use the computer and chatting on line with wifey poo:D

imoo

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Do you have any idea when this was? When he contacted the sister? [/*]

No, sorry. I wish Lynn were here. jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by strick10


Oh my. Not that I don't believe you but can you please provide me a link to save me the pain of finding it. [/*]

I heard Dewey or RS say this in an interview that CAL sent Amber an email (I don't know if it was through myspace or not) and asked Amber to pass on the new address to CSL.

No sure as to when this occurred but IIRC it was sometime back in February.

jmoo

(I'll try to find something to link to)

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I don't think she wanted him found either. As to why, I think it's pretty apparent. We were told how she was "torn" and that she still loved him. Him being found would mean prison, probably for life. As little as they had together in the past three months (communicating via Myspace) was more than what they would ever have if he were caught and tried and convicted.

IMO. [/*]

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

[strick10]

Originally posted by daniel green


Well, as the alleged crime occured in the US, there is no aiding and abetting.

I heard it on CNN this past wkend, that an older women visited him and that the people in the village thought it was his grandmother but that it was the aunt. [/*]

Muchas Gracias.....Thanks!!!!!

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by strick10


IIRC CAL said he was sleeping in the fields but the locals say he was staying in that cabin. If it does qualify as aiding and abetting then I have to say it's what's defined in the US and as we know it to be, hence, the US can't touch those relative. I don't know the laws in Mexico regarding this. [/*]

Actually, I was thinking of relatives in the U.S. who may have directed him to the cabin. Maybe not giving him money, but "arranging for accommodation?" JMO

[strick10]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn


Actually, I was thinking of relatives in the U.S. who may have directed him to the cabin. Maybe not giving him money, but "arranging for accommodation?" JMO [/*]

:shrug:

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by strick10


Muchas Gracias.....Thanks!!!!! [/*]

I don't think she wanted Cesar in Mexico at all. She knew he had no money and probably knew how he was living. He probably laid a sob story on her to get money. He wanted to go to LV and visit his mother. I don't think Christina wanted that either. If caught he would face the DP.

I think she was trying to talk him into turning himself in. Hence the email to Ed.

I think she wanted him back here so she could see him in person and talk to him.

jmo

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by strick10


:shrug: [/*]

Lol...I know! I just think he had more help than we've heard about. I'm sure LE will be in the know re communications back and forth. Whether or not they'll be able to bring any charges is another story.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


snipped

I think she wanted him back here so she could see him in person and talk to him.

jmo [/*]

I don't believe that for one second.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn


Lol...I know! I just think he had more help than we've heard about. I'm sure LE will be in the know re communications back and forth. Whether or not they'll be able to bring any charges is another story. [/*]

Aiding and abetting is a rare charge, really.

What would be served by charging his parents or other fam member?

Other than Mrs L, I cannot see any LE charging any relative for A&A.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


How far is the place he was found from the liquor stores that are owned by his family members?

imoo [/*] Don't really know, just assumptions since CL was on foot and a cozy cabin with electricity near the mountains uninhabited to me means family that can afford more than one property. ie: Aunt with Liquor Stores:shrug:

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by daniel green


Aiding and abetting is a rare charge, really.

What would be served by charging his parents or other fam member?

Other than Mrs L, I cannot see any LE charging any relative for A&A. [/*]

Don't count on Christina being charged either. It won't happen. What she has done is not against the law. We were told that in a PC. As far as the MC goes, they asked her not to talk with anyone but LE and the lawyers. She is cooperating with them. They will not bring any charges against her either for the same reasons as LE. I have plenty of crow in my freezer waiting.

Christina has been cleared and I think you should deal with that.

jmo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Don't count on Christina being charged either. It won't happen. What she has done is not against the law. We were told that in a PC. As far as the MC goes, they asked her not to talk with anyone but LE and the lawyers. She is cooperating with them. They will not bring any charges against her either for the same reasons as LE. I have plenty of crow in my freezer waiting.

Christina has been cleared and I think you should deal with that.

jmo [/*]

You're going to be full, very full. :o

jmo

Might not even be able to squawk....barf

I thought you were already full from the man she hates turning out to be the man she loves IMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I heard Dewey or RS say this in an interview that CAL sent Amber an email (I don't know if it was through myspace or not) and asked Amber to pass on the new address to CSL.

No sure as to when this occurred but IIRC it was sometime back in February.

jmoo

(I'll try to find something to link to) [/*]

I remember that too, but don't have a link nutty. Not sure but maybe Greta. JMO:shrug:

[Squawk Box]

I do believe it was the last PC when they were discussing Christina's innocence. jmo

[alter ego]

Originally posted by daniel green


Aiding and abetting is a rare charge, really.

What would be served by charging his parents or other fam member?

Other than Mrs L, I cannot see any LE charging any relative for A&A. [/*]

No it's not a 'rare charge'. 3 people were just charged in TN

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/apr/09/three-charged-aiding-escaped-east-tennessee-inmate/

What would be served? Huh? Why would any one get a free pass for helping a fugitive if they in fact did that? AOL was charged with A&A securites fraud, but you question what it would serve to charge family members for helping their relative flee from MURDER charges?

[damienstoy]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


This coupled with the statement by the Lt. General in his letter to Turner are enought to make you think.

“On November 5, 2007, Lance Cpl. Lauterbach informed the military prosecutor she was certain the child was not Cpl. Laurean’s based upon a recent Obstetrics Gynecological examination and recalculation of the conception date,” reads the letter from Lt. Gen. Richard S. Kramlich, director of Marine Corps Staff.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/04/marine_laureancaptured_041008w/

Just imagine what a blow that would be if she came over to tell him something like that?

JMO. [/*]

Not to throw another wrench into the discussion, but when I was pregnant I had problems, and my OB told me it would be safe to deliver at 28 weeks. So when that date arrived, they did a C-section. Except the pediatrician who took my DD to the intensive care nursery examined her, and declared that she was developed to 35 weeks, not 28. Mistakes do happen.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


You're going to be full, very full. :o

jmo

Might not even be able to squawk....barf

I thought you were already full from the man she hates turning out to be the man she loves IMO. [/*]

:lol: You're a riot, Candy.

I think we've ALL eaten SOME crow already. That's the crazy thing about this case, not one person has everything right....and no telling how it will all end up.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by damienstoy


Not to throw another wrench into the discussion, but when I was pregnant I had problems, and my OB told me it would be safe to deliver at 28 weeks. So when that date arrived, they did a C-section. Except the pediatrician who took my DD to the intensive care nursery examined her, and declared that she was developed to 35 weeks, not 28. Mistakes do happen. [/*] Yes they do, my OB kept telling me I had 3 more weeks to go and I kept telling him he was wrong cause I knew the exact date of conception. "Valentines Day":D . I was right !!!!

[Babes]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


You're going to be full, very full. :o

jmo

Might not even be able to squawk....barf

I thought you were already full from the man she hates turning out to be the man she loves IMO. [/*]

:lol:

[strick10]

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173355290809&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said he learned Tuesday that it could be three to four months before Cpl. Cesar Laurean returns. Hudson said that time frame assumes the 21-year-old Laurean agrees to be brought back to the United States without a legal fight.

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by strick10
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173355290809&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said he learned Tuesday that it could be three to four months before Cpl. Cesar Laurean returns. Hudson said that time frame assumes the 21-year-old Laurean agrees to be brought back to the United States without a legal fight. [/*]

No... tell me it's not true! What a bummer! I was really hoping and praying his extradition would be expedited so we could get on with it already. Jeez- at this rate it's gonna be y- e- a- r- s
before we get to trial :rolleyes:

[SavannahStar]

TY strick.

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by strick10
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173355290809&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said he learned Tuesday that it could be three to four months before Cpl. Cesar Laurean returns. Hudson said that time frame assumes the 21-year-old Laurean agrees to be brought back to the United States without a legal fight. [/*]

Oh no, this is bad news. At least he will be sitting in jail in Mexico the whole time. I have a feeling he won't like that. jmo

[strick10]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


No... tell me it's not true! What a bummer! I was really hoping and praying his extradition would be expedited so we could get on with it already. Jeez- at this rate it's gonna be y- e- a- r- s
before we get to trial :rolleyes: [/*]

Hopefully it won't take as long as a year! Wonder what papers DA still has to file in Mexico. He should've been more prepared I suppose.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Squawk Box
I do believe it was the last PC when they were discussing Christina's innocence. jmo [/*]

But then unfortunately....here it comes....watch out.....

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2724205/

(35 seconds into the video)

This was after the press conference IMO.

You might think he is talking out both sides, but it sounds nothing like INNOCENCE from my POV.

JMO.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I heard Dewey or RS say this in an interview that CAL sent Amber an email (I don't know if it was through myspace or not) and asked Amber to pass on the new address to CSL.

No sure as to when this occurred but IIRC it was sometime back in February.

jmoo

(I'll try to find something to link to) [/*]

ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA (Show airing 1/11/08)

Greta: Do you know, when she first starting communicating with him, do you know when that was and if she, she’s also in the military, did she tell anybody that she received communication from her husband?

D.A. Hudson: My understanding, Greta, how this all came about is in the early part of February, after he’d left for a couple weeks, Laurean actually went on to her sister’s MySpace and left a message on Amber’s MySpace leaving his new email address and asked Amber to contact his wife to tell her to contact him and she did so.

Here's a link to an article with similar information by D.A. Hudson:

On Friday, Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Laurean and his wife, Christina, sent Internet messages to each other through the MySpace social-networking service. Christina Laurean used her sister's computer, which was seized, Hudson said.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=1334836

[alter ego]

Originally posted by strick10

-snipped-

Wonder what papers DA still has to file in Mexico. [/*]

Sounded like all of them

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
I read that was CL's Uncle's property, but can't recall for the life of me where I saw it at this time.:shrug: [/*]

According to villagers he told them his uncle had put him up at the small farm and had him also doing odd jobs in and around the big city of Morelia.

Laurean frequented a small Internet cafe and also was frequently visited by an older women the villagers assumed was his mother.

http://housley.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/new-info-on-the-life-laurean-lived-in-mexico/

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA (Show airing 1/11/08)

Greta: Do you know, when she first starting communicating with him, do you know when that was and if she, she’s also in the military, did she tell anybody that she received communication from her husband?

D.A. Hudson: My understanding, Greta, how this all came about is in the early part of February, after he’d left for a couple weeks, Laurean actually went on to her sister’s MySpace and left a message on Amber’s MySpace leaving his new email address and asked Amber to contact his wife to tell her to contact him and she did so.

Here's a link to an article with similar information by D.A. Hudson:

On Friday, Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Laurean and his wife, Christina, sent Internet messages to each other through the MySpace social-networking service. Christina Laurean used her sister's computer, which was seized, Hudson said.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=1334836 [/*]

TY Lynn.

So........doesn't sound like any big planning ahead of time, for them to stay in touch. IMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by alter ego


Sounded like all of them [/*]

:eek:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


:eek: [/*]

yeah.

"Hudson said he still has to file papers with the Mexican government."
(from the link upthread)


Article 10. EXTRADITION PROCEDURES AND REQUIRED DOCUMENTS
1. The request for extradition shall be made through the diplomatic channel.
2. The request for extradition shall contain the description of the offense for
which extradition is requested and shall be accompanied by:
(a) A statement of the facts of the case;
(*) The text of the legal provisions describing the essential elements of the offense;
(c) The text of the legal provisions describing the punishment for the offense;
(d) The text of the legal provisions relating to the time-limit on the prosecution or
the execution of the punishment of the offense;
(e) The facts and personal information of the person sought which will permit his
identification and, where possible, information concerning his location.
3. In addition, when the request for extradition relates to a person who has not
yet been convicted, it shall be accompanied by:
(a) A certified copy of the warrant of arrest issued by a judge or other judicial officer
of the requesting Party;
(*) Evidence which, in accordance with the laws of the requested Party, would
justify the apprehension and commitment for trial of the person sought if the
offense had been committed there.
4. When the request for extradition relates to a convicted person, it shall be ac
companied by a certified copy of the judgment of conviction imposed by a court of
the requesting Party.
If the person was found guilty but not sentenced, the extradition request shall be
accompanied by a certification to that effect and a certified copy of the warrant of ar
rest.
If such person has already been sentenced, the request for extradition shall be
accompanied by a certification of the sentence imposed and a statement indicating
which part of the sentence has not been carried out.
5. All the documents that must be presented by the requesting Party in accord
ance with the provisions of this Treaty shall be accompanied by a translation in the
language of the requested Party.
6. The documents which, according to this article, shall accompany the re
quest for extradition, shall be received in evidence when:
(a) In the case of a request emanating from the United States, they are authenticated
by the official seal of the Department of State and legalized by the manner
prescribed by the Mexican law;
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/5/34/00009695.pdf

[CANDYKISSES]

I don't know why, but I thought Dewey Hudson had done much of the leg work in advance and it just needed a seal of approval when he was apprehended????

Maybe little things we heard early in the case made be believe that, but I guess we'll be waiting for a bit now.

JMO.:patriot:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by alter ego


yeah.

"Hudson said he still has to file papers with the Mexican government."
(from the link upthread)


Article 10. EXTRADITION PROCEDURES AND REQUIRED DOCUMENTS
1. The request for extradition shall be made through the diplomatic channel.
2. The request for extradition shall contain the description of the offense for
which extradition is requested and shall be accompanied by:
(a) A statement of the facts of the case;
(*) The text of the legal provisions describing the essential elements of the offense;
(c) The text of the legal provisions describing the punishment for the offense;
(d) The text of the legal provisions relating to the time-limit on the prosecution or
the execution of the punishment of the offense;
(e) The facts and personal information of the person sought which will permit his
identification and, where possible, information concerning his location.
3. In addition, when the request for extradition relates to a person who has not
yet been convicted, it shall be accompanied by:
(a) A certified copy of the warrant of arrest issued by a judge or other judicial officer
of the requesting Party;
(*) Evidence which, in accordance with the laws of the requested Party, would
justify the apprehension and commitment for trial of the person sought if the
offense had been committed there.
4. When the request for extradition relates to a convicted person, it shall be ac
companied by a certified copy of the judgment of conviction imposed by a court of
the requesting Party.
If the person was found guilty but not sentenced, the extradition request shall be
accompanied by a certification to that effect and a certified copy of the warrant of ar
rest.
If such person has already been sentenced, the request for extradition shall be
accompanied by a certification of the sentence imposed and a statement indicating
which part of the sentence has not been carried out.
5. All the documents that must be presented by the requesting Party in accord
ance with the provisions of this Treaty shall be accompanied by a translation in the
language of the requested Party.
6. The documents which, according to this article, shall accompany the re
quest for extradition, shall be received in evidence when:
(a) In the case of a request emanating from the United States, they are authenticated
by the official seal of the Department of State and legalized by the manner
prescribed by the Mexican law;
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/5/34/00009695.pdf [/*]

So according to 3bee, Dewey also has to present what evidence he has that ties Cesar to the crime?

IOW, the only evidence he had at the time of the grand jury was the fact that the bodies were in his backyard and that he had fled to Mexico?

This is assuming that Dewey has submitted none of this already and it doesn't sound like he has.

:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES
I don't know why, but I thought Dewey Hudson had done much of the leg work in advance and it just needed a seal of approval when he was apprehended????

Maybe little things we heard early in the case made be believe that, but I guess we'll be waiting for a bit now.

JMO.:patriot: [/*]

No, it's all a conspiracy, Candy. :D

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA (Show airing 1/11/08)

Greta: Do you know, when she first starting communicating with him, do you know when that was and if she, she’s also in the military, did she tell anybody that she received communication from her husband?

D.A. Hudson: My understanding, Greta, how this all came about is in the early part of February, after he’d left for a couple weeks, Laurean actually went on to her sister’s MySpace and left a message on Amber’s MySpace leaving his new email address and asked Amber to contact his wife to tell her to contact him and she did so.

Here's a link to an article with similar information by D.A. Hudson:

On Friday, Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Laurean and his wife, Christina, sent Internet messages to each other through the MySpace social-networking service. Christina Laurean used her sister's computer, which was seized, Hudson said.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=1334836 [/*]

Thanks Lynn. Nothing planned there.

imo

[strick10]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES
I don't know why, but I thought Dewey Hudson had done much of the leg work in advance and it just needed a seal of approval when he was apprehended????

Maybe little things we heard early in the case made be believe that, but I guess we'll be waiting for a bit now.

JMO.:patriot: [/*]

I'd rather have CAL in the states sooner than later. Leaving him there too long may cause problems. Want him back alive #1 and if the evidence sent to Mexico doesn't fully make sense to them then Mexico may not want to send him back even though the Mexican judge has already recommended sending him back.

Don't know anything about Mexican prisons but I've been told that if you have $'s you could be quite comfortable. Now that CALs been caught I'm sure his family will send him some $'s to help in his comfort and possible help in protecting him.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Don't count on Christina being charged either. It won't happen. What she has done is not against the law. We were told that in a PC. As far as the MC goes, they asked her not to talk with anyone but LE and the lawyers. She is cooperating with them. They will not bring any charges against her either for the same reasons as LE. I have plenty of crow in my freezer waiting.

Christina has been cleared and I think you should deal with that.

jmo [/*]

So if they asked, advised, or forbid her from talking with anyone except LE and lawyers, and she "talked" to the person who was wanted in connection with a brutal murder, would that not be considered disobeying an order?

[Mimi428]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


. . . Laurean actually went on to her sister’s MySpace and left a message on Amber’s MySpace leaving his new email address and asked Amber to contact his wife to tell her to contact him and she did so.
[/*]

I can understand why Christina, married to Cesar, got back with him.

But why did Amber NOT tell LE about that?

I would hate to be one of the parents of those two girls, because on the face of it it sure doesn't appear that either one of them have an ounce of good sense.

JMO

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


According to villagers he told them his uncle had put him up at the small farm and had him also doing odd jobs in and around the big city of Morelia.

Laurean frequented a small Internet cafe and also was frequently visited by an older women the villagers assumed was his mother.

http://housley.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/new-info-on-the-life-laurean-lived-in-mexico/ [/*] TY, Lynn, that's what I remembered reading:seeya:

[strick10]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Thanks Lynn. Nothing planned there.

imo [/*]

I agree with that.

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


So if they asked, advised, or forbid her from talking with anyone except LE and lawyers, and she "talked" to the person who was wanted in connection with a brutal murder, would that not be considered disobeying an order? [/*]

Absolutely not! She was instrumental in the capture. :cool:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by strick10


I'd rather have CAL in the states sooner than later. Leaving him there too long may cause problems. Want him back alive #1 and if the evidence sent to Mexico doesn't fully make sense to them then Mexico may not want to send him back even though the Mexican judge has already recommended sending him back.

Don't know anything about Mexican prisons but I've been told that if you have $'s you could be quite comfortable. Now that CALs been caught I'm sure his family will send him some $'s to help in his comfort and possible help in protecting him. [/*]

Dewey better have some solid proof and if he doesn't, then you may be right.

Sadly.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Absolutely not! She was instrumental in the capture. :cool: [/*]

Yeah, when they raid your sister's house and seize a computer after receiving a tip (not from Christina though) that they're communicating.....that sounds instrumental.

Not.

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Yeah, when they raid your sister's house and seize a computer after receiving a tip (not from Christina though) that they're communicating.....that sounds instrumental.

Not. [/*]

It's like the lottery. Some things just fall in your lap.;)

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173355290809&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said he learned Tuesday that it could be three to four months before Cpl. Cesar Laurean returns. Hudson said that time frame assumes the 21-year-old Laurean agrees to be brought back to the United States without a legal fight. [/*]
Good evening :seeya: and thanks for posting the news. This is very interesting and that time frame is without him fighting extradition. I didn't think it'd take that long!

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Yeah, when they raid your sister's house and seize a computer after receiving a tip (not from Christina though) that they're communicating.....that sounds instrumental.

Not. [/*]

I do not believe she would have ever voluntarily handed that info over. And Dewey can say what he wants. SB isn't offering her any scooby snacks yet on her "cooperation" he seems to still be suspcious, and he's taken on dewey before and won. jmo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I do not believe she would have ever voluntarily handed that info over. And Dewey can say what he wants. SB isn't offering her any scooby snacks yet on her "cooperation" he seems to still be suspcious, and he's taken on dewey before and won. jmo [/*]

Oh I don't think she would have either. In fact, had they not received the tip, she and Cesar would still be chatting it up a year from now.

IMO

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

Good evening :seeya: and thanks for posting the news. This is very interesting and that time frame is without him fighting extradition. I didn't think it'd take that long! [/*]

:seeya: I thought it was a done deal in getting him back. Just a day or two it was said that CAL should be in the states in a matter of days.

[Lynn Gweeny]

DA: Might take months for Marine to return from Mexico

In this Associated Press article Hudson says that even if Laurean doesn't fight extradition and is "begging to come back", he has learned that it will be 3 to 4 months and not the 60 days he originally had anticipated.

http://tinyurl.com/655tro <--- link from journalnow.com

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I do not believe she would have ever voluntarily handed that info over. And Dewey can say what he wants. SB isn't offering her any scooby snacks yet on her "cooperation" he seems to still be suspcious, and he's taken on dewey before and won. jmo [/*]

:confused: Taken on the DA before and won? Won what? Hudson is a lawyer, a DA, he is the one who tries the cases.

I don't think SB is suspicious of Christina. I haven't seen that.

JMO

[martha]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Oh no, this is bad news. At least he will be sitting in jail in Mexico the whole time. I have a feeling he won't like that. jmo [/*] I hate that I was hoping he would be back sooner so maybe we could hear some of the truth on this story guess not:rose:

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


:confused: Taken on the DA before and won? Won what? Hudson is a lawyer, a DA, he is the one who tries the cases.

I don't think SB is suspicious of Christina. I haven't seen that.

JMO [/*]

I think what I think. Maybe it's a local thang. JMO

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


:seeya: I thought it was a done deal in getting him back. Just a day or two it was said that CAL should be in the states in a matter of days. [/*]
That's what I heard too, at the press conference, IIRC. I wonder if a Mexican judge will think there's enough "proof"? :D

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by martha
I hate that I was hoping he would be back sooner so maybe we could hear some of the truth on this story guess not:rose: [/*]
we kept the faith for three months. at least the process is started. he could still be on the run...
for martha:rose:

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by sunstar

That's what I heard too, at the press conference, IIRC. I wonder if a Mexican judge will think there's enough "proof"? :D [/*]

I wonder what standard they use or is it solely up to the presiding judge?

[Lynn Gweeny]

DA: 'I Anticipate' Laurean Won't Fight Extradition (Includes video)

http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-04-15-0039.html

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
DA: 'I Anticipate' Laurean Won't Fight Extradition (Includes video)

http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-04-15-0039.html [/*]

Thanks again Lynn.

I never believed he would fight it.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by marinewife5

we kept the faith for three months. at least the process is started. he could still be on the run...
for martha:rose: [/*]

Well said! The process IS started. And he IS in custody.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I wonder what standard they use or is it solely up to the presiding judge? [/*]
I wish I knew that too. :) Could it be something like what we have here as a preliminary hearing?

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

I wish I knew that too. :) Could it be something like what we have here as a preliminary hearing? [/*]

I'd have to think it's like the bond hearings they have here. Is that the same as a preliminary hearing?

[strick10]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Well said! The process IS started. And he IS in custody. [/*]

Yes 'um! Let's hope he's kept somewhat safe while inthe mexican jail while we wait. Gotta get him back alive.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Thanks again Lynn.

I never believed he would fight it. [/*]

What Dewey anticipates and what Cesar may do could be two different things. JMO

[marinewife5]

FYI There appears to be an update on the whereabouts of the Laurean dog over on Off the Cuff.

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by martha
I hate that I was hoping he would be back sooner so maybe we could hear some of the truth on this story guess not:rose: [/*]

We will sweetie, we will. :rose:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


I'd have to think it's like the bond hearings they have here. Is that the same as a preliminary hearing? [/*]
Preliminary hearing is when the prosecution puts on witnesses (like LE, CSI, etc) with evidence to try to prove to the judge that there is enough evidence to hold the defendant for trial. Defense attorneys get to question the witnesses.

[strick10]

Originally posted by marinewife5
FYI There appears to be an update on the whereabouts of the Laurean dog over on Off the Cuff. [/*]

That's horrible. If you get a pet you don't get rid of him cause it's in the way or you can't take care of it. Hope someone is kind enought to take that doggie in. I'm glad that person posted something about it.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by strick10


That's horrible. If you get a pet you don't get rid of him cause it's in the way or you can't take care of it. Hope someone is kind enought to take that doggie in. I'm glad that person posted something about it.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60 [/*]

The really sad part is that here there is a serious pet overpopulation to begin with. why not take it to a no-kill shelter?

[martha]

Originally posted by marinewife5

we kept the faith for three months. at least the process is started. he could still be on the run...
for martha:rose: [/*] ITA you or so right now we will just have to wait and see what happens. I am so very glad he is caught even if he is in mexico. I was so scared they would not find him being down there where he had a lot of family. :rose:

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

Preliminary hearing is when the prosecution puts on witnesses (like LE, CSI, etc) with evidence to try to prove to the judge that there is enough evidence to hold the defendant for trial. Defense attorneys get to question the witnesses. [/*]

Well then it can't be that type of hearing? No one is in Mexico that can prove anything to a judge. It's all going to be paperwork for that no?

[martha]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


We will sweetie, we will. :rose: [/*] yes i am sure we will I will keep reading and knowing all you good posters will keep me up to date. my head is still going around and around so don;t check my spelling and typing lol:rose:

[strick10]

Originally posted by marinewife5


The really sad part is that here there is a serious pet overpopulation to begin with. why not take it to a no-kill shelter? [/*]

This makes me so sad. I'll keep my finers crossed that now that it's out for many to know someone will take her in.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


That's horrible. If you get a pet you don't get rid of him cause it's in the way or you can't take care of it. Hope someone is kind enought to take that doggie in. I'm glad that person posted something about it.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60 [/*]
That's heartbreaking :( Where is she living that she can't keep or take care of the dog and why wouldn't a family member take it? I will say though it the little dog finds a good home, it'll be better off!

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by marinewife5
FYI There appears to be an update on the whereabouts of the Laurean dog over on Off the Cuff. [/*]

Thanks MW. I wonder who that poster is? Who knows if she can be believed. Not to nice. Just saying........

:(

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


Well then it can't be that type of hearing? No one is in Mexico that can prove anything to a judge. It's all going to be paperwork for that no? [/*]
Where's DOG or someone else familiar with Mexican courts when we need them? :cool:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Yeah, when they raid your sister's house and seize a computer after receiving a tip (not from Christina though) that they're communicating.....that sounds instrumental.

Not. [/*]

So she probably has talked with him since about two weeks after he left. Hmmmmm yeah.....I am sure the DA is so appreciative. They were so excited they kept the computer as a souvenir.:lol:

imoo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by marinewife5


The really sad part is that here there is a serious pet overpopulation to begin with. why not take it to a no-kill shelter? [/*]

I know and the sad thing is there's a no-kill shelter less than a 1/2 mile from my house.

Now I'm so sad. Unless someone adopts that dog quickly, oh I don't even know what to say. :(

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Thanks MW. I wonder who that poster is? Who knows if she can be believed. Not to nice. Just saying........

:( [/*]

She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Thanks MW. I wonder who that poster is? Who knows if she can be believed. Not to nice. Just saying........

:( [/*]

You could always call the animal shelter yourself and ask about it.

Why would a poster lie about something like that?

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I know and the sad thing is there's a no-kill shelter less than a 1/2 mile from my house.

Now I'm so sad. Unless someone adopts that dog quickly, oh I don't even know what to say. :( [/*]


That's a kill shelter? Nuttin can you check if this is true. I'll take the poor thing. I'll need a phone number.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO [/*]
Bless you! :rose:

[Kim]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


You could always call the animal shelter yourself and ask about it.

Why would a poster lie about something like that? [/*]:lol: Sorry couldnt help myself I was thinking the same thing!

[henry]

Originally posted by Mimi428


I can understand why Christina, married to Cesar, got back with him.

But why did Amber NOT tell LE about that?

I would hate to be one of the parents of those two girls, because on the face of it it sure doesn't appear that either one of them have an ounce of good sense.

JMO [/*]

i was once told our job as parents are to raise our kids as acceptable human beings with a moral compass . . . once they leave the "nest" they're on their own. i always wondered why xtina's mom during the tv interview was so silent and now, after your post, i think she was embarrassed to be there . . . for the exact reason you stated . . . imo et all.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


So she probably has talked with him since about two weeks after he left. Hmmmmm yeah.....I am sure the DA is so appreciative. They were so excited they kept the computer as a souvenir.:lol:

imoo [/*]

Don't forget the diary!

:D

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO [/*]

Oh could you. I would like the phone number. I will take her. The last I heard the dog was fine and well cared for. This comes as a shock.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO [/*]

"She" as in Christina, Amber or someone else?

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by Squawk Box



That's a kill shelter? Nuttin can you check if this is true. I'll take the poor thing. I'll need a phone number. [/*]

Yes the County shelter is a kill shelter....there are just so many strays here.

If the dog isn't adopted quickly, it will be dead by the end of the week. :(

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


You could always call the animal shelter yourself and ask about it.

Why would a poster lie about something like that? [/*]

I'm not accusing the poster of anything. I had a very reliable source tell me the dog was fine and well cared for not long ago.

I'm shocked.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO [/*]

I wonder after all this time why they placed her in the animal shelter recently? How long do they keep them. Do they euthanize them there? That is so awful, she is a young dog isn't she?

Rosie, I hope you find a new home.:rose:

imoo

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Squawk Box


Oh could you. I would like the phone number. I will take her. The last I heard the dog was fine and well cared for. This comes as a shock. [/*]

I can't make you any promises. It has been a week already and I'm not sure of their policy. It's moving time in the area and that is when they are the fullest, as many either can't take their pets with them, or don't want to bother. I'll see what I find.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


"She" as in Christina, Amber or someone else? [/*]

She the poster.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


"She" as in Christina, Amber or someone else? [/*]
I think she meant the poster over there who said the dog is at the shelter. :)

[Kel65]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She seemed to want to find the dog a home. Onslow County Animal Shelter is always packed. I wish the dog was taken to a no-kill shelter. I may have to call over there tomorrow to see what's what. JMO [/*]

I work with Akita Rescue and have personally pulled a few dogs from the OCAS. Animals have a VERY short time span to be adopted at that shelter, epsecially if they are an owner give up. They put down animals whose time is up on Fridays at 6 am every week. I don't know why she didn't try the Carolina Animal Protection Society (CAPS) to see if they can help. Maybe she did and all of their foster homes are full.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I wonder after all this time why they placed her in the animal shelter recently? How long do they keep them. Do they euthanize them there? That is so awful, she is a young dog isn't she?

Rosie, I hope you find a new home.:rose:

imoo [/*]
And back to my original question, where is she living now that she would have to give up the dog? Or did it just become an inconvenience ~ like Maria was. :(

[strick10]

Originally posted by Squawk Box



That's a kill shelter? Nuttin can you check if this is true. I'll take the poor thing. I'll need a phone number. [/*]

Awww...you made me :)

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by sunstar

And back to my original question, where is she living now that she would have to give up the dog? Or did it just become an inconvenience ~ like Maria was. :( [/*]

Oh my are you thinking she has had to move from her sister and brother in law's home?:chicken:

imoo

[Squawk Box]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I can't make you any promises. It has been a week already and I'm not sure of their policy. It's moving time in the area and that is when they are the fullest, as many either can't take their pets with them, or don't want to bother. I'll see what I find. [/*]

Oh thank you.

[strick10]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I can't make you any promises. It has been a week already and I'm not sure of their policy. It's moving time in the area and that is when they are the fullest, as many either can't take their pets with them, or don't want to bother. I'll see what I find. [/*]


Grrrrr irresponsible fools!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Oh my are you thinking she has had to move from her sister and brother in law's home?:chicken:

imoo [/*]
It just seems odd timing, if she just took the little dog there. I feel sorry for their daughter since even small children develop attachment to pets. I have no idea where she's living now but could offer a few suggestions! ;)

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

And back to my original question, where is she living now that she would have to give up the dog? Or did it just become an inconvenience ~ like Maria was. :( [/*]

Wonder if they've made her move on base due to the communications issue or because of CALs capture. Just a thought.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


Wonder if they've made her move on base due to the communications issue or because of CALs capture. Just a thought. [/*]
You might be right, but don't they allow small indoor pets?

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by strick10


Wonder if they've made her move on base due to the communications issue or because of CALs capture. Just a thought. [/*]

she could have a dog on base. i was told by base housing i could take my rottie if we moved on base. jmo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by sunstar

It just seems odd timing, if she just took the little dog there. I feel sorry for their daughter since even small children develop attachment to pets. I have no idea where she's living now but could offer a few suggestions! ;) [/*]

Maybe she knows the USMC might cut her loose or charge her with that comforting a fugitive and is getting her house in order so to speak.

JMO :read:

For Rosie. :rose:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by marinewife5


she could have a dog on base. i was told by base housing i could take my rottie if we moved on base. jmo [/*]

That is so true. My oldest daughter has a friend who lives in Midway Park and she has two pits and has had them ever since she moved in base housing.

I wonder what will become of Rosie?

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

You might be right, but don't they allow small indoor pets? [/*]

Yeah they do. Maybe she didn't want to be bothered. Or maybe the MC told her it was best to move out of her sisters house under the circumstances and she ended up in an apartment that allows no pets. Just speculating. She's keept the puppy this long ........ why now.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Maybe she knows the USMC might cut her loose or charge her with that comforting a fugitive and is getting her house in order so to speak.

JMO :read:

For Rosie. :rose: [/*]
A very interesting thought, CK! ;) I pray Rosie finds a home, like with one of us!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


That is so true. My oldest daughter has a friend who lives in Midway Park and she has two pits and has had them ever since she moved in base housing.

I wonder what will become of Rosie? [/*]

:rose:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


Yeah they do. Maybe she didn't want to be bothered. Or maybe the MC told her it was best to move out of her sisters house under the circumstances and she ended up in an apartment that allows no pets. Just speculating. She's keept the puppy this long ........ why now. [/*]
I just now figured it out! The post on the link said the dog was named by CL ~ could it be an act of revenge? I wonder just what day she took the dog in, like before or after he was arrested and said he "loved her" (Maria)?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by marinewife5


She the poster. [/*]

Ooooh, I thought you meant "she" as in the owner of the dog attempting to find a home for it through the shelter.

[martha]

What kind of dog is it is the dog name rosie? boy there is something happened to me on this board that really gets to me.:rose:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by strick10


Yeah they do. Maybe she didn't want to be bothered. Or maybe the MC told her it was best to move out of her sisters house under the circumstances and she ended up in an apartment that allows no pets. Just speculating. She's keept the puppy this long ........ why now. [/*]

Strick, pm check, please....I have the information you requested.

[strick10]

Originally posted by sunstar

I just now figured it out! The post on the link said the dog was named by CL ~ could it be an act of revenge? I wonder just what day she took the dog in, like before or after he was arrested and said he "loved her" (Maria)? [/*]

Hmmmm. The dog has been there since sometime last week. He was arrested on Thursday? If she gave the dog up for the reason you stated then that is heartless to use an innocent dog that has no fault in all this.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10


Hmmmm. The dog has been there since sometime last week. He was arrested on Thursday? If she gave the dog up for the reason you stated then that is heartless to use an innocent dog that has no fault in all this. [/*]
It's also heartless that Maria's baby was never born. I'm just not putting anything past someone who could "be torn between love and anger for his unfaithfulness" but not mention the murder that he's accused of. So I'm really not shocked that the dog is at a shelter, KWIM?

[strick10]

I can't wait! I'm impatient and ready to get CAL back.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by sunstar

A very interesting thought, CK! ;) I pray Rosie finds a home, like with one of us! [/*]

My dogs had a traumatic event ( were attacked by a pit bull) and they used to be so social but now are anti-social and not good around children.

I wonder if it could be something like that? I guess dogs can be traumatized if they witness something they shouldn't too. JMO tho. I don't know what the dog may or may not have actually seen. :(

[alter ego]

Excellent article about the extradition process from Mexico by a Texas DA

http://www.tdcaa.com/node/1462

[hinman]

Originally posted by strick10
I can't wait! I'm impatient and ready to get CAL back. [/*]Me either.

Did I miss anything exciting.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by strick10
I can't wait! I'm impatient and ready to get CAL back. [/*]

Three months is two months and twenty-nine days too long strick.

JMO :(

[hinman]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


My dogs had a traumatic event ( were attacked by a pit bull) and they used to be so social but now are anti-social and not good around children.

I wonder if it could be something like that? I guess dogs can be traumatized if they witness something they shouldn't too. JMO tho. I don't know what the dog may or may not have actually seen. :( [/*] I wonder if she was having a hard time feeding and attending to the dog since CL has been gone.

[strick10]

Originally posted by alter ego
Excellent article about the extradition process from Mexico by a Texas DA

http://www.tdcaa.com/node/1462 [/*]

I don't know about them Texans alter :biggrin:

Thanks for the link.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


My dogs had a traumatic event ( were attacked by a pit bull) and they used to be so social but now are anti-social and not good around children.

I wonder if it could be something like that? I guess dogs can be traumatized if they witness something they shouldn't too. JMO tho. I don't know what the dog may or may not have actually seen. :( [/*]
I was thinking that might have happened too. Sometimes their behavior will change toward an owner if they've gone through trauma, or even through the absence of an owner. ;)

[Squawk Box]

I am sick over this. There is an angel among us though, I am sure. Good nite.:seeya:

Rosie:rose: :rose:

Bless her little heart.

[strick10]

Originally posted by hinman
Me either.

Did I miss anything exciting. [/*]

Other than CALs return is going to take longer than initially was said and the dog not really. Lots of good thoughts going around as always though.

[Janz]

Originally posted by alter ego
Excellent article about the extradition process from Mexico by a Texas DA

http://www.tdcaa.com/node/1462 [/*]

TY I have bookmarked for a longer look later, this does look like a very good explanation of extradition.

[strick10]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Three months is two months and twenty-nine days too long strick.

JMO :( [/*]

I agree but at least he was found, worth the wait.

[strick10]

Originally posted by Squawk Box
I am sick over this. There is an angel among us though, I am sure. Good nite.

Rosie:rose: :rose:

Bless her little heart. [/*]

:seeya:

[strick10]

Think I'll turn in folks. Y'all have a great evening! :seeya:

[Janz]

Originally posted by strick10
Think I'll turn in folks. Y'all have a great evening! :seeya: [/*]

Have a good night, strick. :seeya:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by strick10
Think I'll turn in folks. Y'all have a great evening! :seeya: [/*]

Night strick! :seeya:

[alter ego]

Hudson's office has to lay out its entire case against Laurean on paper before extradition can happen, regardless of if Laurean contests it or not.

“We had to do that initially in order to basically get Mexico to give a fugitive warrant back in January,” Hudson said. “So we already filed a lot of paperwork. There's still some more paperwork we're in the process of preparing.”

Once the paperwork's done, it has to work its way up through the US Department of Justice, then back down through the Mexican government.

Between that and actually scheduling an extradition hearing -- Hudson says it will be at least 60 days before we hear what Laurean wants to do.

If Laurean waives his hearing, returning him to Jacksonville should then only take a few weeks.

If Laurean fights extradition, a Mexican judicial official will review the case -- and rule on whether Laurean should be extradited.

But even if a judge decides to send Laurean home to Jacksonville, Laurean could appeal -- and Hudson says that process could take years.


http://www.cwenc.com/news/

[sunstar]

Originally posted by strick10
Think I'll turn in folks. Y'all have a great evening! :seeya: [/*]
Good night strick! :seeya: Prayers for Rosie!

[Janz]

Originally posted by alter ego
Hudson's office has to lay out its entire case against Laurean on paper before extradition can happen, regardless of if Laurean contests it or not.

“We had to do that initially in order to basically get Mexico to give a fugitive warrant back in January,” Hudson said. “So we already filed a lot of paperwork. There's still some more paperwork we're in the process of preparing.”

Once the paperwork's done, it has to work its way up through the US Department of Justice, then back down through the Mexican government.

Between that and actually scheduling an extradition hearing -- Hudson says it will be at least 60 days before we hear what Laurean wants to do.

If Laurean waives his hearing, returning him to Jacksonville should then only take a few weeks.

If Laurean fights extradition, a Mexican judicial official will review the case -- and rule on whether Laurean should be extradited.

But even if a judge decides to send Laurean home to Jacksonville, Laurean could appeal -- and Hudson says that process could take years.


http://www.cwenc.com/news/ [/*]

I hope after 60 days in a Mexican jail, he wont fight extradition!

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


I hope after 60 days in a Mexican jail, he wont fight extradition! [/*]We will know how comfy the mexican jail is by if he fights extradition.

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
We will know how comfy the mexican jail is by if he fights extradition. [/*]

Yep, I wonder if is family will be able to give him money while there and I would think they will be able to visit him as well. :shrug:

[IvySterling]

Lindell mentioned he's starting a theory thread, that should be interesting to read :)
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

[sunstar]

Originally posted by hinman
We will know how comfy the mexican jail is by if he fights extradition. [/*]
It seemed when he was arrested his worst fear was a conviction by the military sending him to Leavenworth or a chain gang. :shrug:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by hinman
We will know how comfy the mexican jail is by if he fights extradition. [/*]
If he DOESN'T fight extradition I'll have to eat my first taste of 'crow' since I said he WOULD in a post :(

[caejde]

The reliable information about the dog came from Capt. Sutherland during the first round of questions I believe. At the time, the dog might have been being taken care of....but that was then. Things change. Maybe Christina is somewhere she can't take care of the dog.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Lindell mentioned he's starting a theory thread, that should be interesting to read :)
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493 [/*]
Thanks for the update and it is always interesting to hear from Capt. Sutherland too. :)

[Janz]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Lindell mentioned he's starting a theory thread, that should be interesting to read :)
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493 [/*]

I was just reading some remarks by RS there. Hmmm.

Thank you IVySterling.

[caejde]

Looks like the home next door to the Laurean's is up for sale...this is where the Alanders lived.

http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?zp=28546&nzp=28574&ml=3&mnp=17&typ=9&sid=969*7a4a2*8a484da62f8a91a71f131f&pg=2&lid=1098159818&lsn=15&srcnt=649#Detail

[hinman]

There are a lot of people who believe with all of their hearts that Christina is guilty. I won’t begin to try to change your minds. Our Office has access to all of the info in the homicide case and we don’t believe that she had any part in the homicide. There is no cover up; there is no “deal” in exchange for her testimony. We have access to info on Cesar, Christina, and Maria for the time surrounding Maria’s death and our homicide guys drew a warrant and testified before a Grand Jury that they had probable cause that Cesar killed Maria, and that is why we were seeking to apprehend him. There is no way that we could let people look at the case file before trial, but if we were able to fully disclose our info to the public it would change people’s minds. But, our first duty is to proceed with the trial of Cesar and not to reveal all the info we have collected. If we received info tomorrow that implicated anyone in this case, we would discuss that info with the DA’s Office and recommend charges based on the info.

]Ricks sutherlands response

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

[Janz]

Originally posted by sunstar

Thanks for the update and it is always interesting to hear from Capt. Sutherland too. :) [/*]

From the way it sounds, NCIS has had contact with Maria`s biological parents, but do not know what the connection is to the El Paso bus ticket.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


From the way it sounds, NCIS has had contact with Maria`s biological parents, but do not know what the connection is to the El Paso bus ticket. [/*]So the shoe did have evidence.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by caejde
Looks like the home next door to the Laurean's is up for sale...this is where the Alanders lived.

http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?zp=28546&nzp=28574&ml=3&mnp=17&typ=9&sid=969*7a4a2*8a484da62f8a91a71f131f&pg=2&lid=1098159818&lsn=15&srcnt=649#Detail [/*]
Good grief, and it says "Buyer cannot occupy the property nor make any repairs prior to closing. Sold in current "as is" condition"

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
There are a lot of people who believe with all of their hearts that Christina is guilty. I won’t begin to try to change your minds. Our Office has access to all of the info in the homicide case and we don’t believe that she had any part in the homicide. There is no cover up; there is no “deal” in exchange for her testimony. We have access to info on Cesar, Christina, and Maria for the time surrounding Maria’s death and our homicide guys drew a warrant and testified before a Grand Jury that they had probable cause that Cesar killed Maria, and that is why we were seeking to apprehend him. There is no way that we could let people look at the case file before trial, but if we were able to fully disclose our info to the public it would change people’s minds. But, our first duty is to proceed with the trial of Cesar and not to reveal all the info we have collected. If we received info tomorrow that implicated anyone in this case, we would discuss that info with the DA’s Office and recommend charges based on the info.

]Ricks sutherlands response

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493 [/*]

I sure would like to know what is in there that would change people`s mind. (case file)

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


I sure would like to know what is in there that would change people`s mind. (case file) [/*]Me to. His whole response was very interesting. The shoe had evidence, only Maria and CL could answer why El Paso and Maria is gone, also they believe Maria went there on her own.

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
So the shoe did have evidence. [/*]

...and they know whose shoe it is.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


...and they know whose shoe it is. [/*]It is probably CL or Maria's since there is no evidence on Christina.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Janz


From the way it sounds, NCIS has had contact with Maria`s biological parents, but do not know what the connection is to the El Paso bus ticket. [/*]
And I thought it was mentioned previously that LE knew the significance of her getting a ticket to El Paso. :confused:

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
Me to. His whole response was very interesting. The shoe had evidence, only Maria and CL could answer why El Paso and Maria is gone, also they believe Maria went there on her own. [/*]

He did say he would try to answer questions several times a week. I must say I like RS.

[hinman]

Originally posted by sunstar

And I thought it was mentioned previously that LE knew the significance of her getting a ticket to El Paso. :confused: [/*]Here is Sutherlands response to that

The El Paso question. There are some answers in this case that could only come from Cesar or Maria. Maria, sadly, is no longer with us, and we don’t know if Cesar will choose to answer some of the other questions that we have.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Good grief, and it says "Buyer cannot occupy the property nor make any repairs prior to closing. Sold in current "as is" condition" [/*]

And when I was there, it wasn't in good condition.

jmoo

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


He did say he would try to answer questions several times a week. I must say I like RS. [/*]I do to.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Good grief, and it says "Buyer cannot occupy the property nor make any repairs prior to closing. Sold in current "as is" condition" [/*]
Sounds like something "Flip this House" people would buy! :eek: I did notice an inside laundry ~ wonder if the house next door has one? :D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by hinman
Here is Sutherlands response to that

The El Paso question. There are some answers in this case that could only come from Cesar or Maria. Maria, sadly, is no longer with us, and we don’t know if Cesar will choose to answer some of the other questions that we have.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493 [/*]
I know ~ but sometime earlier someone said differently. I just can't remember if it was SB or the media.

[Janz]

Originally posted by sunstar

And I thought it was mentioned previously that LE knew the significance of her getting a ticket to El Paso. :confused: [/*]

That is what I remember, I just don`t know what to think now. Sometime, it seems like long ago now, I had a theory she might have been going there to her biological mom, but no one could find any of her family there.... I am :shrug: , too.

[hinman]

Originally posted by sunstar

I know ~ but sometime earlier someone said differently. I just can't remember if it was SB or the media. [/*]I remember that and think it was sutherland in the questions we sent.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


And when I was there, it wasn't in good condition.

jmoo [/*]
It cracked me up that they posted a photo with the swing set out in front :D

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by sunstar

I know ~ but sometime earlier someone said differently. I just can't remember if it was SB or the media. [/*]

It was in the first group of questions to RS.

13) Has it ever been determined what Maria's connection to El Paso was? We know the answers to these questions, we can not release the info at this time.

[caejde]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


And when I was there, it wasn't in good condition.

jmoo [/*]

No, it didn't look good when I went by either. Not something I would want to pay 107 grand for and then more for repairs.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

It cracked me up that they posted a photo with the swing set out in front :D [/*]

Where was Wanda when the picture was taken???

[hinman]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


It was in the first group of questions to RS.

13) Has it ever been determined what Maria's connection to El Paso was? We know the answers to these questions, we can not release the info at this time. [/*]So I guess the answer would be no.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo
Where was Wanda when the picture was taken??? [/*]
Yeah, she and Malo would have been a 'sale clincher'!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by hinman
Here is Sutherlands response to that

The El Paso question. There are some answers in this case that could only come from Cesar or Maria. Maria, sadly, is no longer with us, and we don’t know if Cesar will choose to answer some of the other questions that we have.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493 [/*]

Hmm sounds like they know it there is a connection but it was known only to Maria and Cesar. It seems RS wants to ask him more about it. Maybe why he and Maria picked El Paso.

But the thing about LE they will say one thing and then come out and say another. I guess they forget what they have already said. Like Hudson's remark about Laurean "cheating" on CSL.

imoo

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
So I guess the answer would be no. [/*]

I think you are right, hinman.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


It was in the first group of questions to RS.

13) Has it ever been determined what Maria's connection to El Paso was? We know the answers to these questions, we can not release the info at this time. [/*]
Thank you! :)

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling

It cracked me up that they posted a photo with the swing set out in front :D [/*]
It seems to be in foreclosure so probably they just left the swingset there and the house "as is", translation, filthy. I can only imagine. :o

[IvySterling]

~snip
Originally posted by GentleBreeze
But the thing about LE they will say one thing and then come out and say another. [/*]
ITA !!!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by sunstar

And I thought it was mentioned previously that LE knew the significance of her getting a ticket to El Paso. :confused: [/*]

He did Star but it may be they don't know why Maria and Cesar picked El Paso.

Like I said LE is known for saying one thing at one time and then saying something different later on.

He did say they are sure it was Maria buying the ticket. So she knew all about it and what it meant and I think he thinks Laurean knows why she picked it too.

imoo

[Janz]

Originally posted by sunstar

It seems to be in foreclosure so probably they just left the swingset there and the house "as is", translation, filthy. [/*]

LMAO, that is prolly true!! :)

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by sunstar

It seems to be in foreclosure so probably they just left the swingset there and the house "as is", translation, filthy. I can only imagine. :o [/*]
IIRC, one of our local posters went by the house and the swing set was no longer there. So obviously the ad was placed while the Alander's were still living there.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


He did Star but it may be they don't know why Maria and Cesar picked El Paso.

Like I said LE is known for saying one thing at one time and then saying something different later on.

He did say they are sure it was Maria buying the ticket. So she knew all about it and what it meant and I think he thinks Laurean knows why she picked it too.

imoo [/*]
I still think there was someone he knew or it was only a stop over enroute to somewhere else and I won't discount that he may have told her he'd be meeting up with her later.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by IvySterling

IIRC, one of our local posters went by the house and the swing set was no longer there. So obviously the ad was placed while the Alander's were still living there. [/*]
The ad says the property is bank owned, which to me, means foreclosure. Maybe it was just removed after the photo was taken, which would've been an excellent idea anyway! :)

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Squawk Box
I do believe it was the last PC when they were discussing Christina's innocence. jmo [/*]

Let's be real clear here. Nobody has said that Mrs L is innocent. Not any LE.

[hinman]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


He did Star but it may be they don't know why Maria and Cesar picked El Paso.

Like I said LE is known for saying one thing at one time and then saying something different later on.

He did say they are sure it was Maria buying the ticket. So she knew all about it and what it meant and I think he thinks Laurean knows why she picked it too.

imoo [/*]As new info becomes available my theory is really starting to change.

It seems they are not sure why El Paso but CL and/or Maria does. Hopefully he will answer. I am pretty sure Cl knows why Maria bought that bus ticket. I still think it plays a major part in this case.

[caejde]

Originally posted by IvySterling

IIRC, one of our local posters went by the house and the swing set was no longer there. So obviously the ad was placed while the Alander's were still living there. [/*]

I just went by a couple weeks ago and there isn't anything in the yard. This is the first time it's been added to the realtor.com website too.

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
As new info becomes available my theory is really starting to change.

It seems they are not sure why El Paso but CL and/or Maria does. Hopefully he will answer. I am pretty sure Cl knows why Maria bought that bus ticket. I still think it plays a major part in this case. [/*]

Along with his statement that "he loved Maria".

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by sunstar

The ad says the property is bank owned, which to me, means foreclosure. Maybe it was just removed after the photo was taken, which would've been an excellent idea anyway! :) [/*]

I went by and MW went by...no swingset either time.

The house was foreclosed on sometime during January and February....I cannot recall the exact dates. Lyn_T was the one who passed that information on about the foreclosure.

The Alander's were renting, they didn't acutally own the house. And yes it looks terrible.

I think I uploaded one from the back of the house looking over towards the Laurean's.

ETA: caejde went by as well.

jmoo

[hinman]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

about the dog

So sad.

I am editing this because I just read CW warning from early saying do not quote a poster from over there even partially.

[Janz]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I went by and MW went by...no swingset either time.

The house was foreclosed on sometime during January and February....I cannot recall the exact dates. Lyn_T was the one who passed that information on about the foreclosure.

The Alander's were renting, they didn't acutally own the house. And yes it looks terrible.

I think I uploaded one from the back of the house looking over towards the Laurean's.

ETA: caejde went by as well.

jmoo [/*]

It must be creepy for the neighbors that live near the Laurean death house!!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I went by and MW went by...no swingset either time.

The house was foreclosed on sometime during January and February....I cannot recall the exact dates. Lyn_T was the one who passed that information on about the foreclosure.

The Alander's were renting, they didn't acutally own the house. And yes it looks terrible.

I think I uploaded one from the back of the house looking over towards the Laurean's.

ETA: caejde went by as well.

jmoo [/*]
Thanks nuttin :) I'd forgotten they were just renting it. Even more reason to think it must be a mess. I see apartments like that every day. Weird that they'd post a photo of it with the swingset if it hasn't been there for a while. It sure doesn't do anything to add to the property!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by hinman
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

A poster posted that the dog was letargic in January according to Dewey Hudson who was on animal planet.

So sad. [/*]
That seems to go toward my thoughts that she was CL's dog. :(

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by sunstar

Thanks nuttin :) I'd forgotten they were just renting it. Even more reason to think it must be a mess. I see apartments like that every day. Weird that they'd post a photo of it with the swingset if it hasn't been there for a while. It sure doesn't do anything to add to the property! [/*]

FWIW, Laundry is in the garage at 101 Meadow Trail.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Janz


It must be creepy for the neighbors that live near the Laurean death house!! [/*]
Or for whoever moves into the Laurean's house! :chicken:

[Janz]

Originally posted by sunstar

Or for whoever moves into the Laurean's house! :chicken: [/*]

:chicken: Me ,too.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Janz


:chicken: Me ,too. [/*]
I believe that has to be disclosed at sale, and believe it or not, some people don't mind. I sure wouldn't live there though.

[caejde]

Originally posted by sunstar

Or for whoever moves into the Laurean's house! :chicken: [/*]

i thought about that. But you know if the right person was to move in, I think that is what would make it ok. Like I know if I were to move in, i would completely repaint the house and give it a positive vibe. And where the grave was at I would put something there-flowers or small tree.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by sunstar

I believe that has to be disclosed at sale, and believe it or not, some people don't mind. I sure wouldn't live there though. [/*]

In NC, not legally. It would be more of an ethics issue. JMO

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Kel65


I work with Akita Rescue and have personally pulled a few dogs from the OCAS. Animals have a VERY short time span to be adopted at that shelter, epsecially if they are an owner give up. They put down animals whose time is up on Fridays at 6 am every week. I don't know why she didn't try the Carolina Animal Protection Society (CAPS) to see if they can help. Maybe she did and all of their foster homes are full. [/*]

Every no-kill shelter in NC is full right now. The only thing available right now is either trying to place it yourself through petfinder somehow or to turn over to Animal Control/shelter and hope they will be placed. At least placed in foster care.

[Janz]

Originally posted by sunstar

I believe that has to be disclosed at sale, and believe it or not, some people don't mind. I sure wouldn't live there though. [/*]

That is true!! I suppose it is empty and still held by LE as a crime scene???

[caejde]

Originally posted by Janz


That is true!! I suppose it is empty and still held by LE as a crime scene??? [/*]

It's been released as a crime scene...and has since sometime in January. But it is empty as Christina moved out. The last time I was there-couple weeks ago maybe-the lawn was really needing mowing and there were a couple items on the porch but that was it.

[Janz]

Originally posted by marinewife5


In NC, not legally. It would be more of an ethics issue. JMO [/*]

HMMM, I always thought it had to be disclosed. Maybe it varies from state to state. :shrug:

[Janz]

Originally posted by caejde


It's been released as a crime scene...and has since sometime in January. But it is empty as Christina moved out. The last time I was there-couple weeks ago maybe-the lawn was really needing mowing and there were a couple items on the porch but that was it. [/*]

Thanks caejde, it must be a sad and lonely looking place.......

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Janz


HMMM, I always thought it had to be disclosed. Maybe it varies from state to state. :shrug: [/*]

It does. I would disclose it, but that is just me. I would not want buyers to find out after the fact. jmo

[caejde]

Originally posted by Janz


Thanks caejde, it must be a sad and lonely looking place....... [/*]

It is. But the pictures do it more justice than in person in all honesty. But like I said the right person can turn it around and give it a positive energy/vibe.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by hinman
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

about the dog

So sad.

I am editing this because I just read CW warning from early saying do not quote a poster from over there even partially. [/*]
Now do we believe this poster who says the dogs name was 'Lily"
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-503
and the other poster said it's name was "Rose".......hmmm

[Janz]

Originally posted by marinewife5


It does. I would disclose it, but that is just me. I would not want buyers to find out after the fact. jmo [/*]

That`s because you are an honest person and I remember you are in real estate. You could not give me that house!

[hinman]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Now do we believe this poster who says the dogs name was 'Lily"
http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-503
and the other poster said it's name was "Rose".......hmmm [/*]hmm now this poster is getting the info from animal planet supposebly. I do not have no idea though..

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Janz


That`s because you are an honest person and I remember you are in real estate. You could not give me that house! [/*]

tyvm. we dont' get called "honest" that often LOL.

Hopefully someone will get in there to give that house some good memories to replace the bad ones.

[Janz]

Originally posted by caejde


It is. But the pictures do it more justice than in person in all honesty. But like I said the right person can turn it around and give it a positive energy/vibe. [/*]

Maybe that will happen, caejde.

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
hmm now this poster is getting the info from animal planet supposebly. I do not have no idea though.. [/*]

I just can`t see Hudson on Animal Planet! Probably someone with nothing better to do.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by caejde


i thought about that. But you know if the right person was to move in, I think that is what would make it ok. Like I know if I were to move in, i would completely repaint the house and give it a positive vibe. And where the grave was at I would put something there-flowers or small tree. [/*]
I agree about repainting, the interior especially.

From the photos I've seen of up-close shots the house exterior was not neglected like the pool was for instance.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


I just can`t see Hudson on Animal Planet! Probably someone with nothing better to do. [/*]Does sound odd. Probably is.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by daniel green


Let's be real clear here. Nobody has said that Mrs L is innocent. Not any LE. [/*]

Yes, let's be real clear here.

Capt. Sutherland said that they don't believe Christina had any part in the homicide.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

oopsy

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
Does sound odd. Probably is. [/*]

I just at this point hope RS continues to post there.

[hinman]

Originally posted by marinewife5


tyvm. we dont' get called "honest" that often LOL.

Hopefully someone will get in there to give that house some good memories to replace the bad ones. [/*]Is the Laureans house a Realtors night mare due to a murder occurring there?

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


I just at this point hope RS continues to post there. [/*]I hope so too. He seems to be giving away a little info. Even the tiniest is helpful.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by alter ego


Yes, let's be real clear here.

Capt. Sutherland said:

"There are a lot of people who believe with all of their hearts that Christina is guilty. I won’t begin to try to change your minds. Our Office has access to all of the info in the homicide case and we don’t believe that she had any part in the homicide."

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

oopsy [/*]

Do they have "all" of the info? And the homicide is separate from cover up. JMO

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Janz


I just can`t see Hudson on Animal Planet! Probably someone with nothing better to do. [/*]

Or talking about how the dog was acting in January.

What show on Animal Planet would this even be on? I can't think of one.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by hinman
Is the Laureans house a Realtors night mare due to a murder occurring there? [/*]
I'm not mw5, but in my area it isn't to 98% of perpective buyers.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by hinman
Is the Laureans house a Realtors night mare due to a murder occurring there? [/*]

I'm sure to some. I wouldn't touch it. Others wouldn't care. Everyone is different.

[hinman]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I'm not mw5, but in my area it isn't to 98% of perpective buyers. [/*]Thank you Ivy interesting.

[Janz]

Originally posted by hinman
I hope so too. He seems to be giving away a little info. Even the tiniest is helpful. [/*]

I`m turning in everyone. Have a good night!!

:seeya:

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


I`m turning in everyone. Have a good night!!

:seeya: [/*]Sweet Dreams:seeya:

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by Janz


I`m turning in everyone. Have a good night!!

:seeya: [/*] :seeya:

edited to remove wrong smilie.

[Hedda Lettis]

Originally posted by strick10


:lol:

Sorry......couldn't resist. Something tells me she didn't start her diary(ies) until after CAL left. If she plans to use her diaries as an excuse she's alot smarter than I've given her credit for. [/*]


The very first time I heard mention of Christina's diaries, I thought (1) did she keep a diary before this happened, and, (2) is she going to write a book?

If she wasn't already keeping a diary, producing one now is somewhat suspect, imo.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by marinewife5


Do they have "all" of the info? And the homicide is separate from cover up. JMO [/*]He said they did and he said there is no cover up and there is no deal.

[caejde]

Originally posted by Hedda Lettis



The very first time I heard mention of Christina's diaries, I thought (1) did she keep a diary before this happened, and, (2) is she going to write a book?

If she wasn't already keeping a diary, producing one now is somewhat suspect, imo. [/*]

I hope noone writes a tell all book or movie to profit off this.

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by alter ego
He said they did and he said there is no cover up and there is no deal. [/*]

How can he be sure they have all of the info? I'm not trying to argue, I'm seriously wondering how they can be certain they know EVERYTHING. JMO

[caejde]

Originally posted by marinewife5


How can he be sure they have all of the info? I'm not trying to argue, I'm seriously wondering how they can be certain they know EVERYTHING. JMO [/*]

Leads me to thnk they are going to dismiss anything Cesar has to say....especially if he's saying they have everything. And I'm not trying to be argumentative either...but Cesar may have something they don't. Just sayin......

[hinman]

Originally posted by marinewife5


How can he be sure they have all of the info? I'm not trying to argue, I'm seriously wondering how they can be certain they know EVERYTHING. JMO [/*]He did say if new evidence was found then charges could come, which of course would be any case. I doubt they find any new evidence though. I just don't see where it would come from.

I don't know that someone could believe CL to much.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by alter ego


Yes, let's be real clear here.

Capt. Sutherland said that they don't believe Christina had any part in the homicide.

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=60#comment-493

oopsy [/*]

Yes he specifically mentioned "the homicide"

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by caejde


Leads me to thnk they are going to dismiss anything Cesar has to say....especially if he's saying they have everything. And I'm not trying to be argumentative either...but Cesar may have something they don't. Just sayin...... [/*]

I could care less if Christina ever sees the inside of a jail. the whole world knows what kind of person she is from the fact she was communicating with him and never told le or fbi. I just want to see justice for Maria, and if everything is not done by the book, he just might beat the charge. Maria deserves better than that. JMO

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Janz


I`m turning in everyone. Have a good night!!

:seeya: [/*]
:seeya:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Yes he specifically mentioned "the homicide" [/*]
Among other things....

[marinewife5]

Originally posted by hinman
He did say if new evidence was found then charges could come, which of course would be any case. I doubt they find any new evidence though. I just don't see where it would come from.

I don't know that someone could believe CL to much. [/*]

well, i would hope that they hear him out and verify anything he says. christina is at least guilty of lying by omission, but that doesn't mean that le hasn't believed anything she's said. and i'm sure they checked out what she had to say too and not just took her word. jmo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Janz


HMMM, I always thought it had to be disclosed. Maybe it varies from state to state. :shrug: [/*]
I guess we learned something tonight. I too thought it was mandatory. :)

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by marinewife5


I could care less if Christina ever sees the inside of a jail. the whole world knows what kind of person she is from the fact she was communicating with him and never told le or fbi. I just want to see justice for Maria, and if everything is not done by the book, he just might beat the charge. Maria deserves better than that. JMO [/*]

Right. What will be will be but imo she will never overcome what the majority of people think about her. She will become a pariah imo.

imo

[marinewife5]

I am off to bed everyone. Have a great night!:seeya:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by marinewife5


How can he be sure they have all of the info? I'm not trying to argue, I'm seriously wondering how they can be certain they know EVERYTHING. JMO [/*]
Evidently they have all the info they need to determine, and prove, who committed the homicide.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by marinewife5
I am off to bed everyone. Have a great night!:seeya: [/*]
:seeya:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by marinewife5
I am off to bed everyone. Have a great night!:seeya: [/*]
Me too! Good night everyone :seeya:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Right. What will be will be but imo she will never overcome what the majority of people think about her. She will become a pariah imo.

imo [/*]That's a sad commentary about our society imo.