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nelkirk

04-12-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Mitzy2
The one part that stuck out for me in that letter was that the MC stated they did not have CL's DNA on file or in a Data base. I find that very odd :confused: [/*]

....in that letter was that the MC stated they did not have CL's DNA on file or in a Data base.

The MC DID NOT make this statement in their Comprehensive Report to Rep Turner..

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by sunstar

I remember Marc saying that, many times. I just wonder if it's possible Mrs. CL wasn't at home the night of the 14th or on the 15th and that's why LE is so sure she wasn't involved? [/*]

Could be. I know they've said they're troubled by the timeline. Something's not fitting somewhere. I don't think they've got a slam dunk case against Cesar by any stretch.

But it's pretty hard to make a puzzle when you only have half the pieces. Hopefully - hopefully - his statement will fill in some of the gaps and answer more questions than it creates.

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Wouldn't that verge on cannibalism????? :eek: [/*]

:lol:

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

.......and with Captain Sutherland and DA Hudson standing right there yesterday, Chris Welch told the media that Christina HAD NEVER BEEN A SUSPECT. :D [/*]

Bless his heart.

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Please, please, please perish that thought.

Please. [/*]

Gloriabarf

bkwits

04-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by baywench

No one ate any yet....just wishful thinking. I forgot Squawk wasn't here anymore 'cos she would be eating for insisting that they did not have a consensual relationship. imo [/*]

Consensual relationship? That could be open to many interpretations. :shrug:
I've not seen any evidence of that except that early on, before April, there was a flirtation and possibly dating. IMO

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Bless his heart. [/*]

If my defense atty said anything else, I would hammer him.

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Wouldn't that verge on cannibalism????? :eek: [/*]

LMAO!

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by sunstar

I remember Marc saying that, many times. I just wonder if it's possible Mrs. CL wasn't at home the night of the 14th or on the 15th and that's why LE is so sure she wasn't involved? [/*]

It was brought up on here a while back that she may have come home at 7 as reported and immediately went back out, for whatever reason and for however long. Maybe to pick up the daughter at her sister's house and stayed awhile? Who knows. Just speculation.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

Maybe JD watches LAW & ORDER, and real crime shows like I do. IMO [/*]

Oh my goodness.

You don't actually believe that L&O is, well, real, do you?

Or realistic? :confused:

Ionmhainn

04-12-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

HUH?

Why would you think I think that?

Of course I do.

I also believe firmly that our system is a good one because it is not based on punishment. [/*]

You don't consider loss of freedom to be punishment? I certainly do.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

If my defense atty said anything else, I would hammer him. [/*]

Or sue him for malpractice. Or get his law lic taken away for incompetence.

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Bless his heart. [/*]

It was almost as if he were "defending" her. Very noble. IMO

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Ionmhainn

You don't consider loss of freedom to be punishment? I certainly do. [/*]

Good afternoon, Ion.

Well, yes, it seems a punishment to the person whose freedom is lost.

But it's not based on punishment.

Our systom is based on protection of the community and deterrents.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by baywench

It was almost as if he were "defending" her. Very noble. IMO [/*]

You know, I thought the same thing!

As if he were defending her in some way.

I am guessing he must have a lot of integrity, too.

(I am still singing CK's "integrity is just a bone away" in my head)

nana2

04-12-2008, 05:22 PM

:read:

oy vey

bkwits

04-12-2008, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Oh my goodness.

You don't actually believe that L&O is, well, real, do you?

Or realistic? :confused: [/*]

Oh please, don't you take anything as being said lightly?

nelkirk

04-12-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

That's another misconception, IMO. IF you feel sorry for Maria and family you cannot, must not, feel sorry for Cesar. Or if you feel sorry for Cesar you don't feel sorry for Maria. I just see no winners here.....everyone lost....and I feel sorry for all of them. [/*]

Something we totally agree on....

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

*snipped*

Totally disagree on the too many perks in prison. While that may have been true in some prisons for some prisoners at some time, it's not the case now. [/*]

Well that's news to me. Can't say that I have first-hand experience but I do watch that one show on MSNBC about "Lockup"......something like that......I see some TVs and radios in their cells, and we've all heard about internet access, libraries and the like. I dunno. I just think punishment should be extremely harsh, maybe for a shorter period of time, but VERY harsh. Someone else just posted about loss of freedom being punishment, I agree with that....but I would want that loss of freedom to be coupled with very rigid rules and stark conditions.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

Oh please, don't you take anything as being said lightly? [/*]

NO!

I am utterly and totally serious and bereft of any lightness or humor.

BTW, I have been meaning to ask you this for a very long time.

What is exactly, that your "I believe Maria" means? You believe her about what?

TIA

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

You know, I thought the same thing!

As if he were defending her in some way.

I am guessing he must have a lot of integrity, too.

(I am still singing CK's "integrity is just a bone away" in my head) [/*]

If he could only get some sort compensation.....

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by nelkirk

Something we totally agree on.... [/*]

Hopefully something everyone agrees on. There are no winners in this JMO

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

LE said that they need to get DNA from Cesar and will even go to Mex to get it, if necessary. We don't know when the baby was due. Every news report and LE says Maria was 8 months preg when she went missing. That would make her due in Jan.

snipped. [/*]

You must read the marine's response to that windbag congressman Turner.

They give the May date of conception.

Ionmhainn

04-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Good afternoon, Ion.

Well, yes, it seems a punishment to the person whose freedom is lost.

But it's not based on punishment.

Our systom is based on protection of the community and deterrents. [/*]

Prison sentences = punishment to me. However, I would like to see more in the way of rehabilitation instead of just warehousing. We are way behind in that regard in this country, imo.

bkwits

04-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well that's news to me. Can't say that I have first-hand experience but I do watch that one show on MSNBC about "Lockup"......something like that......I see some TVs and radios in their cells, and we've all heard about internet access, libraries and the like. I dunno. I just think punishment should be extremely harsh, maybe for a shorter period of time, but VERY harsh. Someone else just posted about loss of freedom being punishment, I agree with that....but I would want that loss of freedom to be coupled with very rigid rules and stark conditions. [/*]

Some prisoners use the internet and law library to bring lawsuits against the prison for various indignities. IMO

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by baywench

If he could only get some sort compensation..... [/*]

He shoulda requested to be put on the laurean's myspace friends list. then he'd have 50000 smackeroos.

JMO

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by baywench

If he could only get some sort compensation..... [/*]

Sigh. If only.

Perhaps charity is its own reward.

hinman

04-12-2008, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by baywench

Hopefully something everyone agrees on. There are no winners in this JMO [/*]There never is when murder occurs and I wish more people would realize that but I doubt that will ever happen unfortunately.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Ionmhainn

Prison sentences = punishment to me. However, I would like to see more in the way of rehabilitation instead of just warehousing. We are way behind in that regard in this country, imo. [/*]

ITA

A full 90% of all prisoners come back into our communities.

If only based on selfishness we should all want and demand rehabilitation, job training, drug/alcohol treatment, mental health care and education for our prisoners.

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

He shoulda requested to be put on the laurean's myspace friends list. then he'd have 50000 smackeroos.

JMO [/*]

:beer:

sunstar

04-12-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

Could be. I know they've said they're troubled by the timeline. Something's not fitting somewhere. I don't think they've got a slam dunk case against Cesar by any stretch.

But it's pretty hard to make a puzzle when you only have half the pieces. Hopefully - hopefully - his statement will fill in some of the gaps and answer more questions than it creates. [/*]
Didn't they base the date she was killed on when she was last known alive and what he said in his note? There really isn't any proof when she was killed, that I know of. So how could anyone be so sure Mrs. CL wasn't involved unless she wasn't at home for a few days? I agree, I think there's a big piece of the puzzle missing! :)

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by sunstar

Didn't they base the date she was killed on when she was last known alive and what he said in his note? There really isn't any proof when she was killed, that I know of. So how could anyone be so sure Mrs. CL wasn't involved unless she wasn't at home for a few days? I agree, I think there's a big piece of the puzzle missing! :) [/*]

IIRC, the note said the 15th, not the 14th. jmo

nana2

04-12-2008, 05:36 PM

Criminal Law
Crimes are wrongdoings seen from the point of view of the society in which they occur: the convicted wrongdoer may be punished. Torts include the same wrongdoings seen from the point of view of their victim: the wrongdoer may be ordered to pay compensation. Sins include the same wrongdoings seen from the point of view of a faith; they call for repentance and atonement. Thus all three systems agree in condemning the most common acts of wickedness - murder, rape, robbery, violence, theft and the like. Once such acts occur, however, the secular responses seem in practice weak. Relatively few crimes are solved, few criminals convicted. Almost never are they made to compensate their victim.

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_systems

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I do feel sorry for cesar. But not to the extent he should be free. He started all of this with cheating. I keep trying to throw away my humanity, but the dang thing comes back like crabgrass. JMO [/*]

Good!

Shows you are a real person.

Not a one-dimensional caricature.

sunstar

04-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

It was brought up on here a while back that she may have come home at 7 as reported and immediately went back out, for whatever reason and for however long. Maybe to pick up the daughter at her sister's house and stayed awhile? Who knows. Just speculation. [/*]
I remember that. Or maybe she stayed at the sister's house that night and didn't come home until sometime the next day which would've given him plenty of time to start cleaning up. He didn't borrow the shovel or go to Lowe's until the next day, though, IIRC.

nana2

04-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
:tongue:

:seeya: [/*] Hi Scampers:seeya:

sunstar

04-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

IIRC, the note said the 15th, not the 14th. jmo [/*]
Yes, you're right, and that was another discrepancy. :shrug:

wandering

04-12-2008, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well first it was they "seized" it, now "she turned it over." She's damned if they seized it, damned if she turned it over. Some posters twist whatever is said to suit their agenda, IMO.

(Nothing personal against you, GB, you know that. But I have noticed, whatever it is concerning Christina, it's skewed to "fit." :D ) [/*]Thank you. Exactly my thoughts. ;)

Mitzy2

04-12-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by nelkirk

The MC DID NOT make this statement in their Comprehensive Report to Rep Turner..

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf [/*] TY, but my question regarding this issue was already cleared up for me. In Q & A's ,the MC stated they did not request a DNA sample from CL.

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

I actually believe they were tears of relief after being in hiding and on the run. it wasn't as easy as he thought. JMO [/*]

Yep.

Ionmhainn

04-12-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by hinman
There never is when murder occurs and I wish more people would realize that but I doubt that will ever happen unfortunately. [/*]

I always feel that way, hinman. I feel sorrow for the victim's family and pity for the perpetrator's family. The ripple effect goes far and wide. When I saw CL in his "captured" photograph I could almost feel the misery emanating from him. Does that mean I condone what he is alleged to have done? Of course not. I am repulsed by it. Do I "feel sorry" for him? No. Do I feel pity for him? Yes.
MO

JD81

04-12-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well that's news to me. Can't say that I have first-hand experience but I do watch that one show on MSNBC about "Lockup"......something like that......I see some TVs and radios in their cells, and we've all heard about internet access, libraries and the like. I dunno. I just think punishment should be extremely harsh, maybe for a shorter period of time, but VERY harsh. Someone else just posted about loss of freedom being punishment, I agree with that....but I would want that loss of freedom to be coupled with very rigid rules and stark conditions. [/*]

I think they should have to stand up the whole time in prison in a 2x4 cell.

Regina.Lampert

04-12-2008, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by nana2
Criminal Law
Crimes are wrongdoings seen from the point of view of the society in which they occur: the convicted wrongdoer may be punished. Torts include the same wrongdoings seen from the point of view of their victim: the wrongdoer may be ordered to pay compensation. Sins include the same wrongdoings seen from the point of view of a faith; they call for repentance and atonement. Thus all three systems agree in condemning the most common acts of wickedness - murder, rape, robbery, violence, theft and the like. Once such acts occur, however, the secular responses seem in practice weak. Relatively few crimes are solved, few criminals convicted. Almost never are they made to compensate their victim.

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_systems [/*]

Thanks for setting the record straight nana!!

:patriot:

nana2

04-12-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

Thanks for setting the record straight nana!!

:patriot: [/*] no problem:seeya:

Howiefan

04-12-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

Do you not believe in our (US) justice system? Just askin. [/*]
I was not the one asked but I personally do not believe in the DP nor does my country.
Does not mean I think the countries that do should not..
jmo although I was not asked

Regina.Lampert

04-12-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by JD81

I think they should have to stand up the whole time in prison in a 2x4 cell. [/*]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has the right idea on how to deal with criminals. Especially gratifying is the mandatory pink colored clothing for the little dears....lol.

:tongue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

JD81

04-12-2008, 05:51 PM

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Sigh. If only.

Perhaps charity is its own reward. [/*]

I think CL is really mad that Christina had something to do with his capture. Hence the "I loved her". Look for the fur to start flying. I think they will turn on each other and it's gonna be ugly.;)

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by JD81

I think they should have to stand up the whole time in prison in a 2x4 cell. [/*]

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in the Congo or Sudan, then.

It's a shame that the US constitution doesn't allow it.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 05:53 PM

Howiefan

04-12-2008, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Thx, GB.

ML was not forced to go to the ATM.

from the link:

Cesar Laurean did not force the woman he is accused of killing to remove money from her account Dec. 14, as far as investigators know, authorities said Friday. [/*]

and that was Jan 31.. foxnews came out yesterday/today with a link that she was forced. :shrug:

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by baywench

I think CL is really mad that Christina had something to do with his capture. Hence the "I loved her". Look for the fur to start flying. I think they will turn on each other and it's gonna be ugly.;) [/*]

You know, baywench, you aren't the first one on here to express that thought, about them turning on each other. And others have mentioned how angry she must have been to hear that Cesar loved Maria.

I have a far-fetched thought, and I don't think this has been put forth as yet.....what if she already KNEW Cesar had loved Maria? Maybe that was something they had discussed before he left? I know it sounds crazy, but hey "twists and turns." Maybe it came as no surprise to her. Her anger over his cheating, and the fact that she is "torn" and still have love for him has already been talked about.

Maybe the "I loved her" didn't shock her because she already knew it. Had not really accepted it, but knew it.

PURE speculation on my part.

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

I can just see SB now...LOL...Luv ya ED! [/*]

Really I just think Ed is awesome. I love the way he talks....he knows EXACTLY what he is saying. He looks like he wants to spit everytime he has to same something about Christina. It cracks me up.

wandering

04-12-2008, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

But that's what we can't figure out. Testify to what?

That she didn't see blood?

That she didn't see a pit?

That she didn't see Maria's car in her garage?

That a crime had occurred that she knew nothing about?

How is that supposed to be testifying against Cesar? [/*]Are you just being silly? She can testify to what she saw during that time, when he left, etc..

Charlotte

04-12-2008, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Good afternoon, Ion.

Well, yes, it seems a punishment to the person whose freedom is lost.

But it's not based on punishment.

Our systom is based on protection of the community and deterrents. [/*]

Well, in North Carolina at least (which is the jurisdiction that counts for CL), the system does seem to be based on punishment.

http://www.nccourts.org/Courts/CRS/Councils/spac/Punishment.asp

Punishment Grids
sentencing, policy, advisory, commission, punishment

Felony Punishment Chart
Minimum/Maximum Punishment Chart
Misdemeanor Punishment Chart
2003 Felony Offense Classification List

I would imagine that the situation is similar in other states, as well.

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Are you just being silly? She can testify to what she saw during that time, when he left, etc.. [/*]

Yep.

bkwits

04-12-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Howiefan

I was not the one asked but I personally do not believe in the DP nor does my country.
Does not mean I think the countries that do should not..
jmo although I was not asked [/*]

The US doesn't have the DP in every state. I think there are 36 or 37 states that have it. The state I live in has the DP, but there has been a moritorium on executions for several years when the former Gov. stated that since the DP had been reinstated (In the 70's) there were more death row inmates found innocent than executed. I think the count was 12 executed and 13 released because of evidence which proved their innocence.

For that reason, as well as other reasons, I find it very hard to support the death penalty. There are some valid reasons for it, I guess, but it should be rarely imposed with evidence beyond almost any doubt. IMO

daniel green

04-12-2008, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

snipped

I have a far-fetched thought, and I don't think this has been put forth as yet.....what if she already KNEW Cesar had loved Maria? Maybe that was something they had discussed before he left? I know it sounds crazy, but hey "twists and turns." Maybe it came as no surprise to her. Her anger over his cheating, and the fact that she is "torn" and still have love for him has already been talked about.
. [/*]

That doesn't sound crazy to me.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by baywench

Really I just think Ed is awesome. I love the way he talks....he knows EXACTLY what he is saying. He looks like he wants to spit everytime he has to same something about Christina. It cracks me up. [/*]

He's done a lot for this community. He doesn't pander to the good ole boys network! LOVE HIM!!!!!

bkwits

04-12-2008, 05:59 PM

Gotta go do some grocery shopping.

:seeya:

baywench

04-12-2008, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

You know, baywench, you aren't the first one on here to express that thought, about them turning on each other. And others have mentioned how angry she must have been to hear that Cesar loved Maria.

I have a far-fetched thought, and I don't think this has been put forth as yet.....what if she already KNEW Cesar had loved Maria? Maybe that was something they had discussed before he left? I know it sounds crazy, but hey "twists and turns." Maybe it came as no surprise to her. Her anger over his cheating, and the fact that she is "torn" and still have love for him has already been talked about.

Maybe the "I loved her" didn't shock her because she already knew it. Had not really accepted it, but knew it.

PURE speculation on my part. [/*]

Not that far out there SS IMO In my theory that Christina killed or was involved in the killing that was the basis. The ultimate betrayal....he loves her! It is bringing up emotion in me just thinking about how awful that would be and I am not involved. I really think that kind of betrayal (and the discovery that he doesn't love you) could cause someone to snap. I think it could cause me to snap. Not an intentional murder but a gutwrenching...blinding rage attack. IMO

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

Long live the rug!

:patriot: [/*]

:lol:

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 06:02 PM

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by bkwits
Gotta go do some grocery shopping.

:seeya: [/*]

grab me a dozen eggs!:seeya:

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Ionmhainn

I always feel that way, hinman. I feel sorrow for the victim's family and pity for the perpetrator's family. The ripple effect goes far and wide. When I saw CL in his "captured" photograph I could almost feel the misery emanating from him. Does that mean I condone what he is alleged to have done? Of course not. I am repulsed by it. Do I "feel sorry" for him? No. Do I feel pity for him? Yes.
MO [/*]

Well said, Ion. Thank you.

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by JD81

Christina knows plenty surrounding the case. She knows how Cesar was acting before and after the murder. She has seen things she didn't know what they meant at the time. There is no law against testifying against your spouse. Actually that is the spouses' decision. She will be on that stand. jmo [/*]I'm not positive, but I think they both have to agree. Cesar will not waive his marital privilege, imo.

He may, however, cop a plea, in which case it will not go to trial.

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by hinman
I don't need death in this case prison satisfies me.

I do believe in punishment, Do you not? I mean am I suppose to not want any one punished for the crime.

I am sorry but I do not feel sorry that Cl is being sent to a horrible place daniel and again I will be satisfied if he is. [/*]

LOL Right there with you hinman. He will get his day in court and if found guilty I could care less what happens to him as long as he is never free to enjoy life again. Odd to me that anyone would question you wanting him to be punished if found guilty. :shrug:

nana2

04-12-2008, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

LOL Right there with you hinman. He will get his day in court and if found guilty I could care less what happens to him as long as he is never free to enjoy life again. Odd to me that anyone would question you wanting him to be punished if found guilty. :shrug: [/*] me too...I think we should give him a big ole hug, smack his hand with a ruler and give the man a cup of hot cocoa and a college education barf

sunstar

04-12-2008, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by wandering
I'm not positive, but I think they both have to agree. Cesar will not waive his marital privilege, imo.

He may, however, cop a plea, in which case it will not go to trial. [/*]
I thought I heard the DA say he isn't going to negotiate any plea deals with CL.

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

Do you not believe in our (US) justice system? Just askin. [/*]

LOL :shrug:

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

Since she didn't offer up the fact that she was communicating with him (which isn't a crime) how do you figure she blew the case wide open. A reward is for someone who GIVES information to LE. She had no choice, they had a search warrant. [/*]Isn't she the one who initially went to LE that AM after Cesar left?

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

Thx, GB.

ML was not forced to go to the ATM.

from the link:

Cesar Laurean did not force the woman he is accused of killing to remove money from her account Dec. 14, as far as investigators know, authorities said Friday. [/*]

"As far as investigators know..." Exactly, nothing is a done deal.

nana2

04-12-2008, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Charlotte

We can't have any hand-smacking, Nana2 -- that would be (gasp!) punishment!!! :D [/*] oh yeah :eek:

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Ionmhainn

You don't consider loss of freedom to be punishment? I certainly do. [/*]

So do the prisoners. :D

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well that's news to me. Can't say that I have first-hand experience but I do watch that one show on MSNBC about "Lockup"......something like that......I see some TVs and radios in their cells, and we've all heard about internet access, libraries and the like. I dunno. I just think punishment should be extremely harsh, maybe for a shorter period of time, but VERY harsh. Someone else just posted about loss of freedom being punishment, I agree with that....but I would want that loss of freedom to be coupled with very rigid rules and stark conditions. [/*]

ITA :beer: Especially when the taxpayers are footing the damn bill!

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Are you just being silly? She can testify to what she saw during that time, when he left, etc.. [/*]

No, I'm just wondering how a person can testify for the prosecution to a crime that she supposedly knew nothing about.

I see we are back to the name calling.

:punch:

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Please move on. This thread is not about you. [/*]

huh?

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by VC2

a spouse cannot be FORCED to testify against their husband/wife as to conversations.

That does not mean they cannot testify. Many a spouse has

imo [/*]Here's the law on marital privilege testimony.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:PWgQhaRJo-8J:www.lrc.ky.gov/KRS/KRE-00/0504.PDF+testimony-marital+privilege&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_privilege

JD81

04-12-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

huh? [/*]

She said move on the thread is not about you.

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by nana2
me too...I think we should give him a big ole hug, smack his hand with a ruler and give the man a cup of hot cocoa and a college education barf [/*]

LMAO Sometimes I am just amazed at what I read here. barf is right Nana!

nelkirk

04-12-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by daniel green

ITA

A full 90% of all prisoners come back into our communities.

If only based on selfishness we should all want and demand rehabilitation, job training, drug/alcohol treatment, mental health care and education for our prisoners. [/*]

II would SELF-PRESERVATION into that sentence

For a community to survive there is a constant need to treat and educate people as a deterrent to crime as well as preventing revolving door crimes committed when a criminal is released on parole and back into the community.

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:35 PM

What does that have to do with the reward? Those notes didn't lead LE to finding him in Mexico. The reward is for information one gives to LE that leads to his capture. The note full of lies she turned over AFTER he had fled did no such thing.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Not in my state. I wasn't allowed to put mine in evidence. [/*]

do you live in NC?

JD81

04-12-2008, 06:41 PM

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

No, I'm just wondering how a person can testify for the prosecution to a crime that she supposedly knew nothing about.

I see we are back to the name calling.

:punch: [/*]

AAAWWW.... Does this mean I can't refer to you as the rug lady?:tongue:

You know I am joking by now I hope? LOL Just trying to lighten the mood.

BTW I was thinking, they said CL was seen at the internet cafe several hours a day and sending the wife an email doesn't take hours........ya think he was reading here? I bet he was and I bet he got some good ideas for his defense too with all the awesome theories we had going here.

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

I don't suppose calling posters a "bunch of subservient women who drool over a good looking guy" this morning qualifies as insulting does it?

:rolleyes: [/*]

I missed that one. I resemble that remark.....I am subservient to no man even if he is good looking. Not in this lifetime anyway! :D

Now if George Clooney comes into my next life I might rethink it.

hinman

04-12-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

AAAWWW.... Does this mean I can't refer to you as the rug lady?:tongue:

You know I am joking by now I hope? LOL Just trying to lighten the mood.

BTW I was thinking, they said CL was seen at the internet cafe several hours a day and sending the wife an email doesn't take hours........ya think he was reading here? I bet he was and I bet he got some good ideas for his defense too with all the awesome theories we had going here. [/*]wouldn't that be something if one of our finest provided the defense for CL.

( I don't mean that insulting but I really could see that happening)

We have had some great ideas on this board.

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:46 PM

Kel65

04-12-2008, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

I don't suppose calling posters a "bunch of subservient women who drool over a good looking guy" this morning qualifies as insulting does it?

:rolleyes: [/*]

I have to to it probably does. Especially when a by line state In my opinion only. JMO

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

I missed that one. I resemble that remark.....I am subservient to no man even if he is good looking. Not in this lifetime anyway! :D

Now if George Clooney comes into my next life I might rethink it. [/*]

Here's the link, about midway down the page:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=328778&perpage=40&pagenumber=19

crymeariver2006

04-12-2008, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Kel65

I have to to it probably does. Especially when a by line state In my opinion only. JMO [/*]

A double standard?

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:55 PM

Kel65

04-12-2008, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

A double standard? [/*]

ITA. JMO

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

do you live in NC? [/*]If I did, I wouldn't have posted that. ;)

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 06:58 PM

It appears as though the thread is wandering o/t.

JMO

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by wandering
If I did, I wouldn't have posted that. ;) [/*]

well then, could we please get back to this case? this board is not about you, your diaries, or your case. TIA;)

wandering

04-12-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Here's the law on marital privilege testimony.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:PWgQhaRJo-8J:www.lrc.ky.gov/KRS/KRE-00/0504.PDF+testimony-marital+privilege&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_privilege [/*]No comments? I found it for y'all. :shrug: Oh, sorry, the first one doesn't work.

Looks like Christina can testify if she wants to.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:00 PM

I wonder if Cesar will change attorneys? We know he can't plea, but he can confess and skip the whole trial process. Any thoughts?

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I wonder if Cesar will change attorneys? We know he can't plea, but he can confess and skip the whole trial process. Any thoughts? [/*]

HI, MW. I've missed a lot. Mind bringing me up to speed on why he can't plea bargain?

nana2

04-12-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by wandering
No comments? I found it for y'all. :shrug: Oh, sorry, the first one doesn't work.

Looks like Christina can testify if she wants to. [/*] good job wandering now stop confusing us with facts :cuss:

:biggrin:

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I wonder if Cesar will change attorneys? We know he can't plea, but he can confess and skip the whole trial process. Any thoughts? [/*]That's what I'm thinking. Why can't he plea if they make a deal? Sounds like he wants to, to avoid the MC trying him.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

HI, MW. I've missed a lot. Mind bringing me up to speed on why he can't plea bargain? [/*]

IIRC, Dewey said no deals.

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by nana2
good job wandering now stop confusing us with facts :cuss:

:biggrin: [/*]Thanks, nana. Nice to "see" you. :seeya:

nana2

04-12-2008, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Thanks, nana. Nice to "see" you. :seeya: [/*] nice to see you too :seeya:

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

well then, could we please get back to this case? this board is not about you, your diaries, or your case. TIA;) [/*]Is that the best you can do? :biggrin:

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

IIRC, Dewey said no deals. [/*]

But if the max he can get is LWOP, it seems he could agree to that, and allocute.

JMO

nuttintodo

04-12-2008, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal
It appears as though the thread is wandering o/t.

JMO [/*]

And trying to catch fish with the bait.

JMO

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

But if the max he can get is LWOP, it seems he could agree to that, and allocute.

JMO [/*]

true. unless he wants to take his chances in court. he may just want it over and decide to allocute and be done with it. jmo

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

But if the max he can get is LWOP, it seems he could agree to that, and allocute.

JMO [/*]Hopefully they have enough evidence to not have to offer any deals.

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by nuttintodo

And trying to catch fish with the bait.

JMO [/*]

:beer:

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by hinman
Hopefully they have enough evidence to not have to offer any deals. [/*]

ITA

gaelicpeas

04-12-2008, 07:25 PM

mw5 - I think he could change lawyers if he wants, although Parramore (sp?) is free, right? Do you know if he is any good?

donna

04-12-2008, 07:28 PM

Sheriff Brown had told CAL on national TV to come back and tell his side of the story. I believe he will keep his word and allow CAL to tell his side.

I was very surprised to see that CAL did not at all look as I had thought he would having seen him on tape. I do not have sympathy for him, but I do pity him. He has thrown his life away and has snuffed out the life of Maria and Gabriel. For that, I am pleased that he will never know another moment of freedom. Whichever poster stated that there are no winners in any of this is so right, IMO.

As far as Christina is concerned, I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. He let CAL get a headstart and that began a very expensive nationwide manhunt. Yes, she was a cooperating witness whenever it suited her. She also could have been writing her pathetic little dairies to leave behind for LE in the event she had the oportunity to run off and join him. Jeanne Pirro, an ex-DA was on Fox News a little while ago and does not have any sympathy for Christina either. Withholding information in my book is the same as lying.

I was very surprised at the tone of the presser yesterday as much time was spent defending Christina. That tells me that when and if Cesar does decide to talk, and maybe does implicate Christina in any way, it just may fall on deaf ears. The only ears open will be Sheriff Brown's, IMO, because he told Cesar to come back and tell his story.

I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights, so I cannot post much until Monday. I also am eating no crow YET other than the crow I ate already in that Cesar is not dead or in cryme's rug.

Now everyone can tear my post apart. It will not disturb me in the least!

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
mw5 - I think he could change lawyers if he wants, although Parramore (sp?) is free, right? Do you know if he is any good? [/*]

From talking to other atty's, he's good. Never had the pleasure of needing him, tho. JMO

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

From talking to other atty's, he's good. Never had the pleasure of needing him, tho. JMO [/*]Thank heavens for that. You would not want that good pleasure.

oops ment good pleasure..

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

true. unless he wants to take his chances in court. he may just want it over and decide to allocute and be done with it. jmo [/*]

"allocute"......new word for me. :read:

baywench

04-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by donna
Sheriff Brown had told CAL on national TV to come back and tell his side of the story. I believe he will keep his word and allow CAL to tell his side.

I was very surprised to see that CAL did not at all look as I had thought he would having seen him on tape. I do not have sympathy for him, but I do pity him. He has thrown his life away and has snuffed out the life of Maria and Gabriel. For that, I am pleased that he will never know another moment of freedom. Whichever poster stated that there are no winners in any of this is so right, IMO.

As far as Christina is concerned, I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. He let CAL get a headstart and that began a very expensive nationwide manhunt. Yes, she was a cooperating witness whenever it suited her. She also could have been writing her pathetic little dairies to leave behind for LE in the event she had the oportunity to run off and join him. Jeanne Pirro, an ex-DA was on Fox News a little while ago and soes not have any sympathy for Christina either. Withholding information in my book is the same as lying.

I was very surprised at the tone of the presser yesterday as much time was spent defending Christina. That tells me that when and if Cesar does decide to talk, and maybe does implicate Christina in any way, it just may fall on deaf ears. The only ears open will be Sheriff Brown's, IMO, because he told Cesar to come back and tell his story.

I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights, so I cannot post much until Monday. I also am eating no crow YET other than the crow I ate already in that Cesar is not dead or in cryme's rug.

Now everyone can tear my post apart. It will not disturb me in the least! [/*]

Great post Donna. I think you're safe. Seems MW5 is on the menu tonight!

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by donna
Sheriff Brown had told CAL on national TV to come back and tell his side of the story. I believe he will keep his word and allow CAL to tell his side.

I was very surprised to see that CAL did not at all look as I had thought he would having seen him on tape. I do not have sympathy for him, but I do pity him. He has thrown his life away and has snuffed out the life of Maria and Gabriel. For that, I am pleased that he will never know another moment of freedom. Whichever poster stated that there are no winners in any of this is so right, IMO.

As far as Christina is concerned, I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. He let CAL get a headstart and that began a very expensive nationwide manhunt. Yes, she was a cooperating witness whenever it suited her. She also could have been writing her pathetic little dairies to leave behind for LE in the event she had the oportunity to run off and join him. Jeanne Pirro, an ex-DA was on Fox News a little while ago and does not have any sympathy for Christina either. Withholding information in my book is the same as lying.

I was very surprised at the tone of the presser yesterday as much time was spent defending Christina. That tells me that when and if Cesar does decide to talk, and maybe does implicate Christina in any way, it just may fall on deaf ears. The only ears open will be Sheriff Brown's, IMO, because he told Cesar to come back and tell his story.

I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights, so I cannot post much until Monday. I also am eating no crow YET other than the crow I ate already in that Cesar is not dead or in cryme's rug.

Now everyone can tear my post apart. It will not disturb me in the least! [/*]

Donna, it is VERY good to see you!!! :seeya:

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:32 PM

Here's legal info on diaries as testimony.

"...fourth amendment reasonableness test..."

"Writers of diaries often fantasize or write in a personal shorthand that is easily misinterpreted."

http://books.google.com/books?id=qAkvFU58WGYC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=%22testimony+diaries%22&source=web&ots=f3iJsqXvZg&sig=-ZqnyzRUxBtbZG41nvuCoVE877Q&hl=en#PPA83,M1

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

"allocute"......new word for me. :read: [/*]I had to look it up:o

nana2

04-12-2008, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

"allocute"......new word for me. :read: [/*] it was for me to I had to google it:o

bkwits

04-12-2008, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I wonder if Cesar will change attorneys? We know he can't plea, but he can confess and skip the whole trial process. Any thoughts? [/*]

:seeya:

Hey MW, I got your eggs. Here they come...catch....oopps!

I think it is possible that Cesar will confess. Although, he may want to stay in Onslow Co. jail as long as possible. Has he even met the appointed attorney? I forgot his name.

donna

04-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by baywench

Great post Donna. I think you're safe. Seems MW5 is on the menu tonight! [/*]

Thanks, Bay.

MW5 is one smart lady and will survive, IMO. Seems like baiting is the theme of this day.

I may not be posting much because I do not like the direction this board has gone. We all want justice for Maria and Gabriel, so antigonizing each other is not going toward helping to achieve that!

:)

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by baywench

Great post Donna. I think you're safe. Seems MW5 is on the menu tonight! [/*] It has been one of those days were more then one poster has been attacked.

I got my shades on because Boy it is hot in here:cool:

nana2

04-12-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by wandering
Here's legal info on diaries as testimony.

"...fourth amendment reasonableness test..."

"Writers of diaries often fantasize or write in a personal shorthand that is easily misinterpreted."

http://books.google.com/books?id=qAkvFU58WGYC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=%22testimony+diaries%22&source=web&ots=f3iJsqXvZg&sig=-ZqnyzRUxBtbZG41nvuCoVE877Q&hl=en#PPA83,M1 [/*] wow, very interesting, so do you think it will be tossed as unreasonable search and seizure?

another "mis-step" ??

donna

04-12-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Cardinal

Donna, it is VERY good to see you!!! :seeya: [/*]

:seeya:

Good to see you also, Cardinal!

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by donna

Thanks, Bay.

MW5 is one smart lady and will survive, IMO. Seems like baiting is the theme of this day.

I may not be posting much because I do not like the direction this board has gone. We all want justice for Maria and Gabriel, so antigonizing each other is not going toward helping to achieve that!

:) [/*]Hi donna:seeya:
Glad to see you here today.

gaelicpeas

04-12-2008, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by donna
Sheriff Brown had told CAL on national TV to come back and tell his side of the story. I believe he will keep his word and allow CAL to tell his side.

I was very surprised to see that CAL did not at all look as I had thought he would having seen him on tape. I do not have sympathy for him, but I do pity him. He has thrown his life away and has snuffed out the life of Maria and Gabriel. For that, I am pleased that he will never know another moment of freedom. Whichever poster stated that there are no winners in any of this is so right, IMO.

As far as Christina is concerned, I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. He let CAL get a headstart and that began a very expensive nationwide manhunt. Yes, she was a cooperating witness whenever it suited her. She also could have been writing her pathetic little dairies to leave behind for LE in the event she had the oportunity to run off and join him. Jeanne Pirro, an ex-DA was on Fox News a little while ago and does not have any sympathy for Christina either. Withholding information in my book is the same as lying.

I was very surprised at the tone of the presser yesterday as much time was spent defending Christina. That tells me that when and if Cesar does decide to talk, and maybe does implicate Christina in any way, it just may fall on deaf ears. The only ears open will be Sheriff Brown's, IMO, because he told Cesar to come back and tell his story.

I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights, so I cannot post much until Monday. I also am eating no crow YET other than the crow I ate already in that Cesar is not dead or in cryme's rug.

Now everyone can tear my post apart. It will not disturb me in the least! [/*]

good post, Donna. Apparently it is "legal" to communicate with a fugitive, but it doesn't sit well with me, either.

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by nana2
wow, very interesting, so do you think it will be tossed as unreasonable search and seizure?

another "mis-step" ?? [/*]I don't know. :shrug: I believe the court will determine if it's reasonable to enter it into evidence.

donna

04-12-2008, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by hinman
It has been one of those days were more then one poster has been attacked.

I got my shades on because Boy it is hot in here:cool: [/*]

Hello, hinman!

I have a pink ring around my mouth from having to sip Pepto Bismol as I read!

:cool:

SavannahStar

04-12-2008, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by donna

*snipped*

Now everyone can tear my post apart. It will not disturb me in the least! [/*]

Now Donna, WHY would anyone tear your post apart? You do realize, don't you, that you are in the HUGE majority here with your feelings about Christina? :o

I have a feeling someday within the not too distant future we will have the matter settled once and for all (re Christina's involvement or lack thereof). In the meantime, everyone is free to express their opinion. I haven't seen anyone on either "side" of the Christina issue being much bashed for how they think.

Good to see you! :seeya:

donna

04-12-2008, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by gaelicpeas

good post, Donna. Apparently it is "legal" to communicate with a fugitive, but it doesn't sit well with me, either. [/*]

Hi, GP! Sorry about your hand!

Selective cooperating witness!

:) ... Take care of that hand and get an assistant for now to type your posts for you!

:)

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:43 PM

Does anyone got the link to the answers from the MC I wanted to look at it and darn me but I did not keep it.

Thought i would look to see if there was anything we could discuss.

donna

04-12-2008, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Now Donna, WHY would anyone tear your post apart? You do realize, don't you, that you are in the HUGE majority here with your feelings about Christina? :o

I have a feeling someday within the not too distant future we will have the matter settled once and for all (re Christina's involvement or lack thereof). In the meantime, everyone is free to express their opinion. I haven't seen anyone on either "side" of the Christina issue being much bashed for how they think.

Good to see you! :seeya: [/*]

Thank you, SS! Yes, I am very much looking forward to having that matter settled as well.

:seeya:

Charlotte

04-12-2008, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by hinman
Does anyone got the link to the answers from the MC I wanted to look at it and darn me but I did not keep it.

Thought i would look to see if there was anything we could discuss. [/*]

Here ya go, hinman!

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

wandering

04-12-2008, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by AnnieBean

Hey wandering, we could commit a crime together and go to jail and get our bachelor's degree.....LOL

*free meals 3 x a day, better than most people in 3rd world countries have
*free lodging/heat/hot water/running water (and flush toilet)
*free healthcare, and free prescriptions...
*24 hrs a day to sit, read, watch TV, chat with others...(ok, maybe not the best comapny, but look at who you are forced to work next to NOW!! lol)
*free library, rehab, religious freedom (though many forget who their 'higher power' is once they get out of prison...)
*TV, if you are a good little boy or girl and aren't in lock down or The Hole....radio, and some places even have internet
*Mail delivery

wheres the punishment?

Wake Up! Lights come on for you, and here comes breakfast...eat that...sit back, read some Ann Rule, take a nap, here comes lunch!!! Eat that, (no dishes or clean-up!!)lay back down, read some more, MAIL CALL!! Read my mail, go talk to some of my criminal friends, all of whom say they are innocent or framed or had a sucky lawyer...:rolleyes: go to the library, oh snap time for my favorite TV show, can' t miss that, onto a rehab meeting/support group/religious meeting...back to my room/cell, wash up a little before dinner...eat dinner, write a few letters, read a little, lights out time for bed!!

Gee, I am remorseful.

For some people, they;venever had it so good. No wonder the rate of recidivism is so high....jmo [/*]lol, every agoraphobic in the country wants in!

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Charlotte

Here ya go, hinman!

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf [/*]Thanks

baywench

04-12-2008, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by donna

Hello, hinman!

I have a pink ring around my mouth from having to sip Pepto Bismol as I read!

:cool: [/*]

It will pass. It always does. A little baiting....a little switching....a little bait and switch grows old and they go away. Everyone returns to discussion like big boys and girls. MW5 is as much as a war weary veteran as her husband and she looks really good in green IMO

gaelicpeas

04-12-2008, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by nana2
wow, very interesting, so do you think it will be tossed as unreasonable search and seizure?

another "mis-step" ?? [/*]

Not sure - and not sure if CSL turned them over voluntarily whether that would make a difference either.

Actually, I was surprised that the DA mentioned the suicide stuff on national tv, too. I hope he got permission from CSL to say that.

JMO

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:52 PM

Well reading back on the answers provided by the Marine Corp the second sexual encounter was in April sometime. The specific date is not known.

Hmmm

donna

04-12-2008, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by baywench

It will pass. It always does. A little baiting....a little switching....a little bait and switch grows old and they go away. Everyone returns to discussion like big boys and girls. MW5 is as much as a war weary veteran as her husband and she looks really good in green IMO [/*]

:beer: ..... for you AND MW5!

hinman

04-12-2008, 07:54 PM

Also across the base is 2 miles.

I was wondering how far across the base was.

gaelicpeas

04-12-2008, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by donna

Hi, GP! Sorry about your hand!

Selective cooperating witness!

:) ... Take care of that hand and get an assistant for now to type your posts for you!

:) [/*]

Thanks, Donna!

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by baywench

Great post Donna. I think you're safe. Seems MW5 is on the menu tonight! [/*]

I never knew i was so dang yummy :D

nana2

04-12-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by gaelicpeas

Not sure - and not sure if CSL turned them over voluntarily whether that would make a difference either.

Actually, I was surprised that the DA mentioned the suicide stuff on national tv, too. I hope he got permission from CSL to say that.

JMO [/*] me too, and with her atty standing right there...at the rate they are going (shoe,diarys) it looks like if she is implicated, her rights have been so trampled they will never get a conviction anyway...of course moo

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by bkwits

:seeya:

Hey MW, I got your eggs. Here they come...catch....oopps!

I think it is possible that Cesar will confess. Although, he may want to stay in Onslow Co. jail as long as possible. Has he even met the appointed attorney? I forgot his name. [/*]

ty for the eggs...how did you know i liked them scrambled???

wally paramore is his appointed atty. I have no idea when they will meet, but i'm hoping the atty he uses makes a statement soon. jmo

hinman

04-12-2008, 08:01 PM

I also found it interresting that Maria used her MPo to express her concern to command about attending formations and events with Laurean.

donna

04-12-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by gaelicpeas

Thanks, Donna! [/*]

:) .... YVW

Sherlocksmom

04-12-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

well then, could we please get back to this case? this board is not about you, your diaries, or your case. TIA;) [/*]

Touchee :biggrin:

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by donna

:beer: ..... for you AND MW5! [/*]

TY, i needed that! (these cami's are starting to chafe!)

hinman

04-12-2008, 08:03 PM

also found it interresting that she did not request a transfer to another base as some thought.

Cardinal

04-12-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by hinman
I also found it interresting that Maria used her MPo to express her concern to command about attending formations and events with Laurean. [/*]

And apparently was excused from attending them.

marinewife5

04-12-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by hinman
Also across the base is 2 miles.

I was wondering how far across the base was. [/*]

156000 acres
http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/mcb/aboutbase.asp

donna

04-12-2008, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by marinewife5

TY, i needed that! (these cami's are starting to chafe!) [/*]

YVW!

Guess now that CAL is in custody the Las Vegas trip is off, huh?
I was so caught by surprise!

Now he needs to just be gotten back here and face justice for what he has done. It's gonna get even more crazy!

hinman

04-12-2008, 08:07 PM

Though I do not know if Maria delayed the reporting or not because it is not clear the punch to the face occurred on the 24 and reported on the 29 5 days later by her UVA. When NCIS interviewed Maria there was no bruising or swelling though Maria said she had suffered from this. Now I do not know how long after the punch to the face the NCIS interviewed and took pics of her because that is not made clear but I am assuming it was after the 5 days from when the UVA reported.