Friday evening - 4/11/08

[Nellie]

Originally posted by wandering
All that means absolutely nothing. You can't tell a murderer by the look in his eyes. :rolleyes:

He's probably happy he was apprehended, he gets a place to sleep and three squares. He was out of money.

Not much fun being on the run, all by himself. [/*]

Didn't he tell someone in Mexico that he met that he was "being punished and made to live on this farm" by his parents? So, he wasn't having much fun.......it was like punishment. I believe he was ready to turn himself in. The Sheriff even says he recieved on email from Cesar the end of March. I think he was tired of living this way and may even figure life in prison will be better than sleeping on cardboard boxes. At least he'll have a bed and meals.

I agree that you can't really tell a murderer by their looks, but will admit that some pyschopaths have a cold, dead, empty look to them. I thought Peterson, Winkler and some others had that cold, empty scary stare.

[wandering]

Originally posted by flipflop


You could be right. He probably is a scared "kid". Hell he knows he is being charged with first degree murder. But if he did what has been allleged then he is a cold blooded killer.

As far as setting Christina up? I don't know. That will take a lot of proof from him. But maybe you are right they are playing her.
I do believe she played a part in this. I don't believe she killed Maria though. [/*]It was also reported that CL was asking for money, but no one was sending him any. If Christina was so involved, don't you think she would have sent him some $$$$$$$?

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


Yes, I just listened to Mr. Hudson and he gave a little more information about the use of MySpace to send messages. According to Mr. Hudson, Cesar sent a message to Amber's MySpace asking her to give Christina his email address that he was providing to her. [/*]
Bingo! thank you Lynn :D

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well actually all of the sexual pedophiles I have seen look just like what I would image a sexual pedophile would look like except some of the female pedophiles.

I still feel that Laurean's facial features including his eyes showed a young man with feelings. I certainly did not pick up any vibes that he was devoid of feelings like I did when I saw Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson and many others.

Now that 17 year old kid that is on trial now for a thrill kill certainly has dead pool eyes imo. No light, no flicker, no illumination, no ...........nothing.

imoo

imoo [/*]

GB I always do the same. Profiling , there is an emptiness, blank, no depth. Or a gut feeling. I hate when I do this, hate to say I knew it! Especially because of those who state, there was no remorse, or their reaction to the death of a loved one was not the proper reaction. According to Who? Who knows, some are in shock, imo. Some are on candid camera, better to hold it within, while dying inside. IMO CL looked contrite and ready to face his consequnces. I believed he would commit suicide rather than face his demons. I am hopeful he will answer all questions and provide some peace to Maria's family.

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


We don't have to contact them, someone in LE knows whats on the boards, they know how we think!!!! :D [/*]

I'm sure and they don't care. LOL

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
Me too; I was waiting like the rest of the world, I thnk I posted last week he wouldnt last long out there....and Viola!!! He didnt :D We all knew he'd be reaching out for $$ and support.....it was only a matter of time. Really a sad sad story. And the bon fires, those have articles have been verified, they are not "rumors" fgs. :shrug: [/*]

Yeah, for the life of me I don't understand how they CANNOT consider the wife a suspect. She lived in that house with him - seems like she would notice where the bonfire was and all the disturbance on the ground where ML body was recovered.... :confused:

[flipflop]

Originally posted by wandering
It was also reported that CL was asking for money, but no one was sending him any. If Christina was so involved, don't you think she would have sent him some $$$$$$$? [/*]

Well, it will be said that she didn't want to enter herself into "aiding" a fugitive. I think it speaks everything that no one was willing to help him.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by hinman
It doesn't say April Cryme. Also I was rereading it and it says she claimed one consenual one rape. [/*]

I'm STILL thinking as I did before, that perhaps they had a consensual 'encounter' until she found out he was married then it was no way anymore dude, you're married and he forced himself on her.
I don't know if ya'll member, my ex had an affair with a co-worker, military, she was new to the unit, didn't know he was married at first and all the 'good ol boys' around didn't say anything about him being married to her.
I can so totally see this happening with Maria. She didn't know he was married at first. Then when she found out, she backed out, but CL didn't like that and then.....
IMO

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think he should wait until he finishes all the emails and talks with Cesar.

Strange that her "letters" are threatening suicide and that's exactly how Cesar's "letters" described what happened to Maria.

But, as I've said before, the day they come out and officially clear her of any and all involvement, is the day I'll change my opinion. [/*]
I've washed my BGB to wear if our opinion of CSL is wrong :D

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by VC2
not only did he say he was convinced but that if anyone had the evidence he did and had read her diaries that they would have compassion for her.

Also mentioned that it was ambers myspace that CL posted on to give his new email address. [/*]

Well, tell him to print out the diaries in the JDNews and we'll all decide for ourselves.

:D

[JD81]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I've washed my BGB to wear if our opinion of CSL is wrong :D [/*]

Time to put them on. I'm cooking up a bunch of crow for everyone.:D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think he should wait until he finishes all the emails and talks with Cesar.

Strange that her "letters" are threatening suicide and that's exactly how Cesar's "letters" described what happened to Maria.

But, as I've said before, the day they come out and officially clear her of any and all involvement, is the day I'll change my opinion. [/*]
I caught that too ~ he says Maria committed suicide, well, slit her own throat (same thing) and Mrs. CL is thinking of suicide. I can understand why she'd want to though. ;)

[JD81]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Oh, but they do..... [/*]


:lol:

[VC2]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
I was just listening to Hudson speak on Greta....he seems to have a lot of faith in Christine. He said that while the FBI has not gone thru all the email, he himself read thru her letters and he had a lot of compassion for her. He said in the letters she threatened to kill herself, except for her responsibility to her daughter.

I guess I may have to eat my words....but I just don't see how she could not know anything! [/*]

Yes and he was convinced and confident that she knew nothing.

I had "some" doubt until i saw the crime scene photos. there was not loads of blood everywhere - might be under luminol but even the painted part of the garage where they said the majority of blood was, it was just a roller thinkness a foot or foot and a half high. the "visible" blood was specks which i would never have noticed in my garage (or basement that i never go down to if i can avoid it). Made me realize the medias description had been over the top. It was an easy cleanup, a hose for the floor, a quick stroke of a roller and some soap and water for other spots.

any blood in the house was minimal compared to the garage and all i can say is that would have had to be very minimal then.

"hi hon, felt a bit better so made a fire pit for the bbq we were talking bout happening, and lets get that painting done we talked about" Even furhman at the time said 2 hours for everything.

Hudson is sure she is not involved, good enough for me. (specially when i already was :D) seriously though not everyone notices things in a garage they don't use - and it looked like stored stuff to me, no truck would fit. In fact there are lots of us slobs in the world.

imo

[Nellie]

Originally posted by CanCan
Just got back from babysitting toddler grandson - so I'm waaaay behind all you guys. I'm watching NG right now. Here's a couple impressions:

1. CL looks like a scared kid to me - not a coldblooded killer. :chicken:

2. I think that he said "I loved her" regarding Maria as a way to give forewarning to Christina that he intends to spill his guts and tell the truth- that Christina was involved (I still believe she is the killer, despite what LE says in the PC - I think they're playing her along ala Susan Smith).

all jmo

(don't jump on me too hard - I've been out of the country and am waaaay behind on the entire case) hammer [/*]

I totally agree that he looks terrified.

I just listened to the DA basically clear Christina so I think...."uh, ok, then I guess she knew nothing". But then thinking back to the note, his escape, her delay of reporting the note, a body in the backyard of the home she's living in.....I just can't figure how he managed all of that with her right there. Sometimes I wonder if they are so adamant about her being "innocent" until they actually get Cesar back in the states!

Another thing. Did she have a computer at home? IF she did, then the only reason I can think of her using her sister's computer to communicate with Cesar was to hide it from authorities. That doesn't sound so "upstandingly innnocent" to me, sorry. It sounds deceptive. JMO I admit I'm having a hard time totally clearing her yet.

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
He's a BOZO imo. He couldnt catch a cold if he tried.
:shrug: [/*]

agreed! :lol:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by JD81


Time to put them on. I'm cooking up a bunch of crow for everyone.:D [/*]

The chickens say you aren't a good cook.

:D

[JD81]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


The chickens say you aren't a good cook.

:D [/*]

I've cooked LT's goose a few times. LOL

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by JD81


I've cooked LT's goose a few times. LOL [/*]

Who?

:confused:

[bkwits]

Originally posted by JD81
Did anyone see DA Hudson on Greta? He is confident Christina did not know anything about the murder or what he did with the body. He said her diary revealed she was thinking about suicide in January but didn't because of her child. How sad.

jmo [/*]

Yes, he was adamant about Ctina not being involved.

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Oh yes they do. If they don't they aren't too bright because posters here have GREAT sleuthing abilities. If I was in LE and had a case such as this one, I would be looking for ideas to put the sketchy FE into focus..jmo
RS knew of our board. Poster here communicated with him he communicated back and that poster linked it...you think he or someone in LE didn't have a lookie here now and then? [/*]

To busy laughing at the theories. :D

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I've washed my BGB to wear if our opinion of CSL is wrong :D [/*]

Just make sure you have some salt peter to throw on those :chicken: feathers while you are wearing those BIG GIRL BRITCHES. ;)

Evening Ivy!

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by wandering
All that means absolutely nothing. You can't tell a murderer by the look in his eyes. :rolleyes:

He's probably happy he was apprehended, he gets a place to sleep and three squares. He was out of money.

Not much fun being on the run, all by himself. [/*]

:rolleyes:

Well it may not to you but I have been sizing up people all my life and I will continue to do so whether you roll your eyes or not. I saw emotions and nothing showed that he was standing there as an arrogant, smug, cold blooded killer imo.

He did not look happy. He looked sad, resigned, tearful and afraid.

imoo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Oregongal


I'm STILL thinking as I did before, that perhaps they had a consensual 'encounter' until she found out he was married then it was no way anymore dude, you're married and he forced himself on her.

IMO [/*]
This sounds very possible, imo.

[hinman]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think he should wait until he finishes all the emails and talks with Cesar.

Strange that her "letters" are threatening suicide and that's exactly how Cesar's "letters" described what happened to Maria.

But, as I've said before, the day they come out and officially clear her of any and all involvement, is the day I'll change my opinion. [/*]cryme, I do not mean this post in a rude, mean, or condescending way I really just want to know the answer and I thought maybe you would no.

Anyway my question is they haven't cleared her? I thought they said they would not be charging her. Now I didn't hear that myself, I have been pretty busy but I could of swore I read that posted on hear.

[JD81]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Who?

:confused: [/*]

What? The guy with the chickens who kept us all informed on the other case. LOL

Remember he talked to chickens. LOL

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by flipflop


I have followed this from the beginning. I don't post a lot. But I do read as many others do. You probably weren't directing this at me but I do fall into your category.

I just wanted to remind you that although "we" don't always post, it doesn't mean we don't read and keep up.

:D [/*]


Thank you for adressing that ff. One does not need to post about a case everyday in order to have opinions. Reading about this case from the begining makes a person just as knowledgeable about it as someone who posts on a forum daily. :read:

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by wandering
All that means absolutely nothing. You can't tell a murderer by the look in his eyes. :rolleyes:

He's probably happy he was apprehended, he gets a place to sleep and three squares. He was out of money.

Not much fun being on the run, all by himself. [/*]

Thank you wandering...for the...."You can't tell...."

[bkwits]

Originally posted by JD81


To busy laughing at the theories. :D [/*]


Naughty, naughty. :biggrin:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by JD81


To busy laughing at the theories. :D [/*]

Really?

Or maybe they thought...."Does anybody here know anything about Myspace?"

[VC2]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Yeah, for the life of me I don't understand how they CANNOT consider the wife a suspect. She lived in that house with him - seems like she would notice where the bonfire was and all the disturbance on the ground where ML body was recovered.... :confused: [/*]

why would she notice a few changes in the garage..actually no real changes except the stroke of paint..that were easily explained away and why would she be suspicious of her husband making a fire pit for the december parties/bbqs they had planned! She was at the party. And remember LE has the full timeline we only have bits and pieces. they can corroborate the party time she left, if she went elsewhere etc.

It takes a bizarre mind to think it means your husband has buried someone under it.

imo

p.s living in a house with a murderer does not mean you think he is one or know he is one. Just means that it didn't likely happen in the bedroom. That garage was not used IMO. it didnt fit his truck with all the clutter and junk. Her house looked a mess too. So i would say a lousy housekeeper but that makes me guilty too

[hinman]

Originally posted by Nellie



Another thing. Did she have a computer at home? IF she did, then the only reason I can think of her using her sister's computer to communicate with Cesar was to hide it from authorities. That doesn't sound so "upstandingly innnocent" to me, sorry. It sounds deceptive. JMO I admit I'm having a hard time totally clearing her yet. [/*]I would say her computer got confiscated when they found Maria in the back yard.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by hinman
cryme, I do not mean this post in a rude, mean, or condescending way I really just want to know the answer and I thought maybe you would no.

Anyway my question is they haven't cleared her? I thought they said they would not be charging her. Now I didn't hear that myself, I have been pretty busy but I could of swore I read that posted on hear. [/*]

What they said in the PC was that the investigation(s) (plural) into the murder and the fugitive side were continuing and that any evidence related to that would be turned over to the DA for his determination of any additional charges of any additional persons.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by flipflop


Well, it will be said that she didn't want to enter herself into "aiding" a fugitive. I think it speaks everything that no one was willing to help him. [/*]

I thought they said his Uncle was helping him. Today they said that an older woman would come to see him and they thought it was his grandmother.

LOL Christina couldn't help him if she wanted to......she ain't that dumb. She has a lawyer and I am sure he had already told her not to send any money if he contacted her. She knew they had already intercepted his letters to her and they would be watching to see if any funds where sent by her or her family. Now Christina herself..........I doubt she has two extra nickles to rub together since she has lost Laurean's income.

imoo

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


We all size people up wether we admit it or not. I can't help my first impressions, and sometimes they are wrong. If I am wrong, I too will put on the bgb and admit it.

with this case I have a feeling alot of people will be right and alot will be wrong and some theories will be half and half...:shrug: [/*]

Pssst Annie, everyone was wrong already about Christina. Game over.:o :D

[Lynn Gweeny]

Laurean e-mail to sheriff asks for immunity from military prosecution

Cesar Laurean sent an e-mail to Sheriff Ed Brown almost two weeks before he was captured in Mexico, asking whether Brown could provide immunity from military prosecution if Laurean returned to Onslow County.

"I know they will convict me with no evidence, I can't risk Leavenworth or a chain gang," Laurean wrote in the e-mail sent March 30. The e-mail was traced by authorities to the region in Mexico where Laurean was arrested Thursday, Brown said.

(SNIP)

Brown replied to the e-mail, saying he felt compelled to be honest and could not guarantee immunity, but "turning yourself in would be a positive step, the wisest thing you could do."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by JD81


To busy laughing at the theories. :D [/*]
Any proof that RS and the other investigators laughed at the theories? :rolleyes:

[CanCan]

Originally posted by JD81


Time to put them on. I'm cooking up a bunch of crow for everyone.:D [/*]

I'm not uncapping my BBQ sauce until Dewey officially says that Christina is CLEARED.

jmo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


What they said in the PC was that the investigation(s) (plural) into the murder and the fugitive side were continuing and that any evidence related to that would be turned over to the DA for his determination of any additional charges of any additional persons. [/*]

Didn't Hudson even say he was not aware of what all was found on the computer. The FBI is the one that got the SW so they are forensically going through the computer looking for evidence.

Sometimes that can take 3-4 weeks.

imoo

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Gawd...spring cleaning still going on....i am toast, soooo tired.
Seven years of accumulated crap from my office today...the room actually ECHOES!!!
I often wondered when and where I woudl be when I heard the "news" he was captured, never thought it would be a nite I turn in early- og lord will I ever be able to go to bed before 11pm again in the midst of a case "on hold" like this one was??:eek:
TG for sleeping pill....

NO! No card!!!! I despise cleaning like this and if my DD wasn't
8 3/4 mos pregnant and "nesting" and in cleaning mode, she 'dropped' yesterday...I would have never done as much as I did today..2 rooms, 2 porches and a new potting bench outside...and raking too!!!-
I have a feeling the baby will be present and VISIBLE on may 3rd when we have the baby shower....:D [/*]

Congrats AB and what a good Mom/Grandma you are to be there for your DD!
Get whatever rest you can now, cause when baby decides to come you will prolly be all there. And then the high that comes after the birth will keep you up too. What a wonderful thing to be looking forward to tho!
Your DD and grandbaby comes before CL, you know everyone will keep you caught up on it, so go with the joy AB, go with the joy!
:rose:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
IMO, LE is looking here on our board and seeing all of our suspicions concerning XT.....they are praying we don't mess up their plan and thats why they're doing so much braggin' on her in public (something I've never seen LE do before, ever)....

What say you? [/*]
Not just here on this board either! Did you hear the 1st caller to Nancy's show tonight? It was a question about Mrs. CL being involved. And there have been many others too. :)

[JD81]

Originally posted by CanCan


I'm not uncapping my BBQ sauce until Dewey officially says that Christina is CLEARED.

jmo [/*]

DA said it on Greta tonight.

[bkwits]

Originally posted by VC2


why would she notice a few changes in the garage..actually no real changes except the stroke of paint..that were easily explained away and why would she be suspicious of her husband making a fire pit for the december parties/bbqs they had planned! She was at the party. And remember LE has the full timeline we only have bits and pieces. they can corroborate the party time she left, if she went elsewhere etc.

It takes a bizarre mind to think it means your husband has buried someone under it.

imo

p.s living in a house with a murderer does not mean you think he is one or know he is one. Just means that it didn't likely happen in the bedroom. That garage was not used IMO. it didnt fit his truck with all the clutter and junk. Her house looked a mess too. So i would say a lousy housekeeper but that makes me guilty too [/*]




It happens all the time. Ctina was blind to a lot because she wanted to believe him. IMO

[hinman]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


What they said in the PC was that the investigation(s) (plural) into the murder and the fugitive side were continuing and that any evidence related to that would be turned over to the DA for his determination of any additional charges of any additional persons. [/*]ahh thank you for the clear up.

[JD81]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Any proof that RS and the other investigators laughed at the theories? :rolleyes: [/*]

Just a wild guess.:D

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz



I agree! I just can`t make myself believe Christina did not suspect something. A lot of time passed at that home before Maria and Gabriel were found. If I am wrong, I wll eat, but not gladly, my crow. [/*]see but I don't think they can charge her for suspecting something can they?

[VC2]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
How on God's green earth could CL or his wife have hit Maria with a force strong enough to kill her without leaving blood everywhere? In addition, the time line doesn't leave much breathing room for clean-up.

What did he hit her with? .....and was there not blood spatter on the kitchen ceiling?

No....there wasn't enough time to get all of that cleaned up and her body removed before XT came home. Matter of fact, I think she came home and found Maria there. Of course, I've been wrong before (although I know thats hard to believe:D ). [/*]

Perhaps because it was not in the kitchen but LE says the murder occured IN THE GARAGE! did you see those pics????? and a hose doesn wonders in a garage.

maybe they don't see it because there was ample time to clean up. All he had to do was was dig a 3 foot hole and dump her in.

To be graphic when i lost my peanuts i went mental crying so called the cops to dig her grave (my cat) since the ground was hard near december..to hard for me. Its local, the station is down the road from me, and the could tell i was hysterical, saying i was holding her bloody body and didnt want to let go.

Then he started to dig and i said it had to be deep enough the animals didnt get her, and it was 3 feet down and 3 feet wide (bc in my hysteria i wanted room for her to be comfy) and done in 15 minutes. The other cop i put peanuts in her towel in his arms while i went to get toys and food to take to kitty heaven.

He had lots of time

imo

p.s. im sure LE has been able to follow all her movements from the party to perhaps a bar or a private party to celebrate later. We don't have that, they do.

[hinman]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


other boards, other TV shows, they have all been saying it as we have been posting it which proves that across the country GMTA.
jmo. [/*]but they all have the same info we do. Which is not much and LE has so much more.

[JD81]

Originally posted by hinman
see but I don't think they can charge her for suspecting something can they? [/*]

DA Hudson said on Greta tonight he is certain Christina did not know about the murder or cover up. Paraphrasing.

jmo

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by VC2


why would she notice a few changes in the garage..actually no real changes except the stroke of paint..that were easily explained away and why would she be suspicious of her husband making a fire pit for the december parties/bbqs they had planned! She was at the party. And remember LE has the full timeline we only have bits and pieces. they can corroborate the party time she left, if she went elsewhere etc.

It takes a bizarre mind to think it means your husband has buried someone under it.

imo

p.s living in a house with a murderer does not mean you think he is one or know he is one. Just means that it didn't likely happen in the bedroom. That garage was not used IMO. it didnt fit his truck with all the clutter and junk. Her house looked a mess too. So i would say a lousy housekeeper but that makes me guilty too [/*]

Well, maybe it's just me but I happen to notice everything. I pay attention to my surroundings, especially my house, and I always know if something is out of place or different - I would have immediately questioned the paint. Perhaps I would've shrugged it off - don't know! But, IMO too many other things don't make sense either and I feel there is enough to question her involvement especially since she was communicating with him while he was a fugitive. JMO....

[sunstar]

Originally posted by VC2

<respectfully snipped>

She was at the party. And remember LE has the full timeline we only have bits and pieces. they can corroborate the party time she left, if she went elsewhere etc.

[/*]
But the thing here is that the ME and LE can only guess as to when Maria was killed, based on when she was last known alive, and what that note said that CL left. So there isn't any "proof" that Mrs. CL wasn't there unless she wasn't at the house at all that night or that weekend. MOO :)

[flipflop]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I thought they said his Uncle was helping him. Today they said that an older woman would come to see him and they thought it was his grandmother.

LOL Christina couldn't help him if she wanted to......she ain't that dumb. She has a lawyer and I am sure he had already told her not to send any money if he contacted her. She knew they had already intercepted his letters to her and they would be watching to see if any funds where sent by her or her family. Now Christina herself..........I doubt she has two extra nickles to rub together since she has lost Laurean's income.

imoo [/*]

Where is that link to her lawyer telling Christina not to send anymore money. I am not being rude. I would like to see it.


Ok I reread. That was your opinion. Sorry

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Laurean e-mail to sheriff asks for immunity from military prosecution

Cesar Laurean sent an e-mail to Sheriff Ed Brown almost two weeks before he was captured in Mexico, asking whether Brown could provide immunity from military prosecution if Laurean returned to Onslow County.

"I know they will convict me with no evidence, I can't risk Leavenworth or a chain gang," Laurean wrote in the e-mail sent March 30. The e-mail was traced by authorities to the region in Mexico where Laurean was arrested Thursday, Brown said.

(SNIP)

Brown replied to the e-mail, saying he felt compelled to be honest and could not guarantee immunity, but "turning yourself in would be a positive step, the wisest thing you could do."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html [/*]



Thanks Lynn, that answers a lot of questions. :seeya:

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by JD81


DA Hudson said on Greta tonight he is certain Christina did not know about the murder or cover up. Paraphrasing.

jmo [/*]

Unofficial transcript of what D.A. Hudson said about Christina to Greta On the Record:

D. A. Hudson: Greta, I am very convinced that she was not aware of the murder of Maria Lauterbach and that she played no part in the disposal of her body. I’m absolutely positive, I think for all the relevant information that we have, we have a lot of information, letters back and forth between the two of them, her diaries that we seized a couple weeks ago. If you read these, her diaries, you would realize she was even contemplating suicide in January and put in her diaries all the reasons she didn’t commit suicide is because she had an 18 month-old daughter. If you read those letters, you’d have a lot of compassion for Laurean’s wife, Christina.

[VC2]

i give up.

posters here seem to have decided that after 3 months of validating each others theories, Hudson and chief investigating officer Rick Sutherland are nothing but country boobs because they are wrong to suggest christina is not involved.

I bow to the great posters who know all the evidence :rolleyes:
imo

p.s talk aobut a witch hunt

[Ionmhainn]

Forgive me for jumping in ...it was storming here and it's going to take me forever to catch up! I'm wondering about the mountain cabin...seriously doubting that CL just stumbled upon it.
Anything on that? TIA...back to reading...

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


Prolly not hinman, but how on earth could she have let him have the 4 hour, at least ,head start? They could be letting her paint herself into a corner, just as the investigator did in the Susan Smith case. [/*]very possible Janz. Trust me I amnot counting anything out.

But.. I am not holding out hope for her arrest, I think it would have already happened. I know some see that as being blind blah blah blah but they have said time and time again pretty much that she was cooperating and now they are even going as far as saying they will not be charging her from what I am hearing.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Oh, yes, we are a strange lot....lol

AB [/*]

:beer:

[flipflop]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


Unofficial transcript of what D.A. Hudson said about Christina to Greta On the Record:

D. A. Hudson: Greta, I am very convinced that she was not aware of the murder of Maria Lauterbach and that she played no part in the disposal of her body. I’m absolutely positive, I think for all the relevant information that we have, we have a lot of information, letters back and forth between the two of them, her diaries that we seized a couple weeks ago. If you read these, her diaries, you would realize she was even contemplating suicide in January and put in her diaries all the reasons she didn’t commit suicide is because she had an 18 month-old daughter. If you read those letters, you’d have a lot of compassion for Laurean’s wife, Christina. [/*]

As we thought. He IS A COLD BLOODED KILLER

[flipflop]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Not me!
I doubt it!
Sorry Hudson, I am not convinced. Hope you have a boatload of evidence. Many will be watching this trial with a very critical eye.
Save a serving of crow for Hudson, IMO.
If I am wrong, I will eat my share..... [/*]

I think Christina was aware after the fact. I think he killed her. I think he is now scrambling for his future. He sucks. He didnt love anyone but him

[CanCan]

Originally posted by JD81


DA said it on Greta tonight. [/*]

Did he say, "Christina has been cleared"?

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by flipflop


Where is that link to her lawyer telling Christina not to send anymore money. I am not being rude. I would like to see it.


Ok I reread. That was your opinion. Sorry [/*]

This is what Capt. Sutherland said at the PC today:

Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his wife and relatives for money and other resources to help him on the run, Sutherland said, but his wife refused to provide it, knowing it was illegal.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2719416/

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by VC2


Perhaps because it was not in the kitchen but LE says the murder occurred IN THE GARAGE! did you see those pics????? and a hose doesn wonders in a garage.

[/*]

I just don't find that feasible at all. A hose in a garage packed with many items of all kinds would be a disaster imo.

I do not believe there was time to commit this crime in the tight time line he had to do it.

We know Maria was at the bus station in Jacksonville buying the ticket around 5 pm. With Friday, payday and holiday traffic at the peak hour between 5-6 would have taken her around 45 minutes just to return to his home and we don't know if she stopped somewhere to pick up fast food or buy the baby an outfit. If so then she is getting back even later in the evening.

The argument has to ensue. Then the blow to the head. Then all of the blood that SB has said is there both in the garage (floor and walls) and inside a room inside the home must be cleaned. He then would have to discard the bloody cloths he used. He would have to hide her body.........hide her vehicle........run and shower the blood off of him.........discard those clothes.........redress and be sitting there without a care in the world when Christina comes bursting through the door wanting to know WTH he had been.

It is just not feasible imo. He had no idea if she would come in later or come home early.

When they searched the garage there had been major rains up there. Many times if the garage door is not pulled all the way down.......the rainwater will sweep under the door and puddle in the garage.

imoo

[JD81]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


Unofficial transcript of what D.A. Hudson said about Christina to Greta On the Record:

D. A. Hudson: Greta, I am very convinced that she was not aware of the murder of Maria Lauterbach and that she played no part in the disposal of her body. I’m absolutely positive, I think for all the relevant information that we have, we have a lot of information, letters back and forth between the two of them, her diaries that we seized a couple weeks ago. If you read these, her diaries, you would realize she was even contemplating suicide in January and put in her diaries all the reasons she didn’t commit suicide is because she had an 18 month-old daughter. If you read those letters, you’d have a lot of compassion for Laurean’s wife, Christina. [/*]

Thanks Lynn. That's it. It will have to be accepted. jmo

For Christina and her child.:rose: :rose:
For their Poodle.:rose:

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by daniel green


I am not suggesting you should feel sympathy for him.

But, if he murdered her in the heat of passion, and she was dead, isn't any method of hiding the body just as heinous as another?

Seriously, not being snarky, why would the burning of the body affect whether or not it's 2d degree murder if CL, in fact, murdered ML and is found guilty? [/*]

==============================================
IMO, the ability to take a young pregnant woman and put her into a pit, after suposedly beating her to death, and burning her and the unborn baby and having a bbq over her body, proves that someone with big, brown eyes with long eye lashes, the brown eyes, soleful and warm, could actually do this to a human being. I do hope that the jurors are not picked from the few on this board who are feeling like Cesar is just like their own sons.........

[hinman]

Originally posted by VC2
i give up.

posters here seem to have decided that after 3 months of validating each others theories, Hudson and chief investigating officer Rick Sutherland are nothing but country boobs because they are wrong to suggest christina is not involved.

I bow to the great posters who know all the evidence :rolleyes:
imo

p.s talk aobut a witch hunt [/*] well it seems they have done a great job so far so if there is no evidence then there is no evidence and I do not think Christina is going to be charged.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


Unofficial transcript of what D.A. Hudson said about Christina to Greta On the Record:

D. A. Hudson: Greta, I am very convinced that she was not aware of the murder of Maria Lauterbach and that she played no part in the disposal of her body. I’m absolutely positive, I think for all the relevant information that we have, we have a lot of information, letters back and forth between the two of them, her diaries that we seized a couple weeks ago. If you read these, her diaries, you would realize she was even contemplating suicide in January and put in her diaries all the reasons she didn’t commit suicide is because she had an 18 month-old daughter. If you read those letters, you’d have a lot of compassion for Laurean’s wife, Christina. [/*]
Thanks Lynn!

ME thinks Mr. Hudson never has read all the drama young people, and even not so young people put in Journals. :rolleyes:

[flipflop]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


This is what Capt. Sutherland said at the PC today:

Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his wife and relatives for money and other resources to help him on the run, Sutherland said, but his wife refused to provide it, knowing it was illegal.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2719416/ [/*]

Thank you Lynn. You are unbelievable. Thank you.

[JD81]

Originally posted by lonetraveler


==============================================
IMO, the ability to take a young pregnant woman and put her into a pit, after suposedly beating her to death, and burning her and the unborn baby and having a bbq over her body, proves that someone with big, brown eyes with long eye lashes, the brown eyes, soleful and warm, could actually do this to a human being. I do hope that the jurors are not picked from the few on this board who are feeling like Cesar is just like their own sons......... [/*]

:beer:

[hinman]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Could he do all of that, alone, in the short time framed allotted? [/*]Maybe they think someone else besides christina helped.:shrug:

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Laurean e-mail to sheriff asks for immunity from military prosecution

Cesar Laurean sent an e-mail to Sheriff Ed Brown almost two weeks before he was captured in Mexico, asking whether Brown could provide immunity from military prosecution if Laurean returned to Onslow County.

"I know they will convict me with no evidence, I can't risk Leavenworth or a chain gang," Laurean wrote in the e-mail sent March 30. The e-mail was traced by authorities to the region in Mexico where Laurean was arrested Thursday, Brown said.

(SNIP)

Brown replied to the e-mail, saying he felt compelled to be honest and could not guarantee immunity, but "turning yourself in would be a positive step, the wisest thing you could do."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html [/*]

TY Lynn, some unsetteling remarks on the comment pages, I forgot about the reward. Time will tell. IMO

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by wandering
It was also reported that CL was asking for money, but no one was sending him any. If Christina was so involved, don't you think she would have sent him some $$$$$$$? [/*]

I don't think she could even if she wanted to. She has been and is being watched carefully, not only by LE but by MC. IMO

[JD81]

Originally posted by sherryhefner



Do you really think the game is over, JD?.....surely not. [/*]

Yes I do. Christina will not be charged with anything. jmo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Janz


Exactly, she had a lawyer all along, advising her what she could/could not do legally. [/*]
So it isn't any act of heroism that she didn't send the money he wanted, even if she had any to spare.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Oregongal


I don't think she could even if she wanted to. She has been and is being watched carefully, not only by LE but by MC. IMO [/*]I think I read a quote by the MC that she was not being investigated for any crime that they are aware of.

Your post reminded me of that.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Then we have what Sheriff Brown said tonight on the Nancy Grace show:

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Did she not notice anything wrong with her back yard?

LALAMA: Well, Sheriff, let`s answer that question because I know we have a little bit of time left with you. Is it the presumption that the wife simply just didn`t know there was anything wrong in her home, in the back yard, in the environment?

BROWN: That is what we have been told by her. I know there`s been a lot of speculations. However, we have to deal with the facts that we know and can prove. And at this time, as strange as it may sound to the average citizen, it`s possible that she did not know this had taken place. I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but...

LALAMA: Right now, she`s off the hook. That`s what you`re saying. Thank you, sir.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/ng.01.html

[hinman]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


"chain gang?". Who says that anymore? [/*]He is scared of the military prison isn't he. Is it that bad?

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Ionmhainn
Forgive me for jumping in ...it was storming here and it's going to take me forever to catch up! I'm wondering about the mountain cabin...seriously doubting that CL just stumbled upon it.
Anything on that? TIA...back to reading... [/*]
IIRC (not looking at the article link right now) it was on a relative's property.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Then we have what Sheriff Brown said tonight on the Nancy Grace show:

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Did she not notice anything wrong with her back yard?

LALAMA: Well, Sheriff, let`s answer that question because I know we have a little bit of time left with you. Is it the presumption that the wife simply just didn`t know there was anything wrong in her home, in the back yard, in the environment?

BROWN: That is what we have been told by her. I know there`s been a lot of speculations. However, we have to deal with the facts that we know and can prove. And at this time, as strange as it may sound to the average citizen, it`s possible that she did not know this had taken place. I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but...

LALAMA: Right now, she`s off the hook. That`s what you`re saying. Thank you, sir.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/ng.01.html [/*]
From the above:
"That is what we have been told by her".

[Ionmhainn]

Originally posted by sunstar

IIRC (not looking at the article link right now) it was on a relative's property. [/*]

Thanks, sunstar! I'll try to find it.

[JD81]

Originally posted by hinman
He is scared of the military prison isn't he. Is it that bad? [/*]

He doesn't want to be railroaded by the military like Maria was. jmo

He actually said he didn't want to be railroaded. jmo

I guess he doesn't think much of the MC. jmo

[Lynn Gweeny]

LOL, listen to this short interview on WRAL.com with D. A. Dewey Hudson who says something a bit different than what he said on Greta tonight. JMO

He is asked if there COULD be charges against Christina and he says "I haven't ruled that out". :confused: I wish he'd make up his mind, lol.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2724205/

[hinman]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Then we have what Sheriff Brown said tonight on the Nancy Grace show:

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Did she not notice anything wrong with her back yard?

LALAMA: Well, Sheriff, let`s answer that question because I know we have a little bit of time left with you. Is it the presumption that the wife simply just didn`t know there was anything wrong in her home, in the back yard, in the environment?

BROWN: That is what we have been told by her. I know there`s been a lot of speculations. However, we have to deal with the facts that we know and can prove. And at this time, as strange as it may sound to the average citizen, it`s possible that she did not know this had taken place. I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but...

LALAMA: Right now, she`s off the hook. That`s what you`re saying. Thank you, sir.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/ng.01.html [/*]This part also


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The question is, why has his wife not been charged? And the reason I ask this is, there is no way -- there is no way she did not have some complicity in this, and they do not absolutely need to give her immunity to prosecute him. They found a body in his back yard, for Pete`s sakes!

LALAMA: This is a very good question. We`ve all been going back and forth on this all day. And let`s go first to Sheriff Brown because, Sheriff, I know we only have a short time with you. A lot of people feel there is no way that Laurean`s wife cannot be implicit in this, that she had to help him. What is your position? Everyone`s saying she`s off the hook. Is that fast (ph) and clear that she`s not responsible?

BROWN: My remarks are, the people that are making those accusations do not have the facts. We have the facts. And at the present time, there are no evidence to bring charges.

LALAMA: No evidence she was communicating with him by e-mail? If she knew where he was, is that not bad enough?

BROWN: I haven`t said she was communicating. I said now there is no evidence to bring charges against her for a criminal act.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by VC2
i give up.

posters here seem to have decided that after 3 months of validating each others theories, Hudson and chief investigating officer Rick Sutherland are nothing but country boobs because they are wrong to suggest christina is not involved.

I bow to the great posters who know all the evidence :rolleyes:
imo

p.s talk about a witch hunt [/*]

It isn't just here by any means.

JDNews had a poll in Jacksonville. It was the only poll I have ever seen where 100% of the people who voted thought she was involved.

Ask Nuttintodo, she lives in this county...........the vast majority of citizens believe she is involved.

MarineWife5 lives in Jacksonville also and said she has not found one person who believes Christina is innocent.

That will not go unnoticed by Lauren's criminal defense attorney either.......he too is from this county and knows what most are thinking.

imoo

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Not me!
I doubt it!
Sorry Hudson, I am not convinced. Hope you have a boatload of evidence. Many will be watching this trial with a very critical eye.
Save a serving of crow for Hudson, IMO.
If I am wrong, I will eat my share..... [/*]

==============================================
I have to say that I share your thoughts. I think that they offered her a deal. Part of that deal, that she would not be prosecuted if she would testify against her husband. I think that the LE are touting her innocence to make people believe her better during the trial. I will also eat crow if I'm wrong. I do not think that I will have to eat any crow. I bet Cesar will have a different story when he gets to talk. It would not surprise me if he was mainly the cleanup crew. Say I'm stubborn if you want to, I'm not usually wrong about this type of crime. If I'm wrong this time, it will be a first.

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Could he do all of that, alone, in the short time framed allotted? [/*]

==============================================
I do not feel that he did this alone.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
LOL, listen to this short interview on WRAL.com with D. A. Dewey Hudson who says something a bit different than what he said on Greta tonight. JMO

He is asked if there COULD be charges against Christina and he says "I haven't ruled that out". :confused: I wish he'd make up his mind, lol.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2724205/ [/*]

Boy he is so wishy washy.

imoo

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
ANY prison would be better than living on avocados and tuna fish, maybe. Three meals and a bed, not like they TIRTURE you in prison, in fact if its federal sometimes its downright homey!! I don't know about military prison.

Heres something weird I found when looking up levenworth prison
inhttp://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258335fo... [/*]

No chance he is going to any of those. He is being tried by the state. Just saying......

jmo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


he and others are going by what she said. she certainly wouldn't LlE????? [/*]


:lol:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by VC2
i give up.

posters here seem to have decided that after 3 months of validating each others theories, Hudson and chief investigating officer Rick Sutherland are nothing but country boobs because they are wrong to suggest christina is not involved.

I bow to the great posters who know all the evidence :rolleyes:
imo

p.s talk aobut a witch hunt [/*]

I did think Christina was involved to some degree but I have backed off from that train of thought and I'll gladly let DA Hudson control whether or not he has evidence to charge or not charge. If he doesn't ever charge her, I can certainly live with that as it's no skin off my nose.

I always respected everyone's opinions and still do but after today, I give up too. TODAY, there has been so much rudeness, sniping, etc. I am not saying it hasn't happened on here before, but today's has just been way over the top. My skin is pretty thick but this has been ridiculous today, IMO.

NO ONE can freely give their opinion anymore. And BTW, didn't you know that the citizens of Onslow County are country boobs too? Supposedly we are since we keep re-electing this "Bozo" sheriff who has a thing for "hangers", etc.

JMO

[bkwits]

Originally posted by lonetraveler


==============================================
IMO, the ability to take a young pregnant woman and put her into a pit, after suposedly beating her to death, and burning her and the unborn baby and having a bbq over her body, proves that someone with big, brown eyes with long eye lashes, the brown eyes, soleful and warm, could actually do this to a human being. I do hope that the jurors are not picked from the few on this board who are feeling like Cesar is just like their own sons......... [/*]


Well, I hope to tell you that my sons are not like Cesar. Nothing at all like him. They both have tempers, but they respect women and children and are very compassionate. Anyway he does NOT remind me of my sons, my nephews , or my grson (who is 17).

[hinman]

Originally posted by Janz


Has the guy in Lowes with him been identified? [/*]yup and cleared.

[hinman]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
Good night all, looooong day, huh? I luv and respect you all, TTYL.

:seeya:
AB [/*]:seeya:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by Janz


Has the guy in Lowes with him been identified? [/*]
All the LE revealed was they had spoken with him three times, he was a long time friend of Cesar, but gave no name.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Mother's mission clear in aftermath of Marine's death

Seven large boxes filled with Maria Lauterbach's personal belongings arrived back in Vandalia on Monday.

For the 20-year-old slain Marine lance corporal's family, touching all of her things — the prized softball glove, her soccer cleats, her favorite music CDs and the present she had bought her mother for Christmas — brought the reality of Maria's death home.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/11/ddn041208lauterbachinside.html

[JD81]

quote:Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
LOL, listen to this short interview on WRAL.com with D. A. Dewey Hudson who says something a bit different than what he said on Greta tonight. JMO

He is asked if there COULD be charges against Christina and he says "I haven't ruled that out". I wish he'd make up his mind, lol.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2724205/ [/*]

--------------------------------------------------
I understand what he means by that. He said at the Greta interview that he is completely sure Christina is not involved in the murder and cover up. The emails were not discussed.

The second interview he is talking about the emails the FBI is reviewing and he hasn't gotten the complete information on that yet. Just saying........

He is talking about two different things.

JMO

[baywench]

Originally posted by lonetraveler


==============================================
I have to say that I share your thoughts. I think that they offered her a deal. Part of that deal, that she would not be prosecuted if she would testify against her husband. I think that the LE are touting her innocence to make people believe her better during the trial. I will also eat crow if I'm wrong. I do not think that I will have to eat any crow. I bet Cesar will have a different story when he gets to talk. It would not surprise me if he was mainly the cleanup crew. Say I'm stubborn if you want to, I'm not usually wrong about this type of crime. If I'm wrong this time, it will be a first. [/*]

I like your thinking. great post.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
Count me in with CAT TOY and hinman.....how could they be so dismissive of Christine? She gave him a good headstart on LE....then she communicated with him without their knowledge. Yet they talk about her like she's being inducted into sainthood...

Somethings gotta be going on that we don't know.....
I think they must be playing some info clost to the vest, or playing her along so they can get more evidence. [/*]

Count me in too. I am and have been thinking for a long time that LE and MC knows way more than they are letting out.
They have to. If they let things out to the public it would show their cards to the perp...who ever that may be...or conspirators, who ever they may be. For heaven's sake, we are supposed to trust our LE officials and their training and experience. I'm in the camp that thinks that LE AND MC knows WAY more than they are releasing in their veiled PC's and statments. That's their job. How else are they supposed to do it?
Tipping off the criminals? Letting everyone know the evidence they may or may not have? NO.
I think there are sooooo many things we do not know and won't know until a trial comes. Which is fine with me if they get the bad guy(s)!!! And they have captured CL!!!
Justice for Maria and Gabriel is all that counts. How they get it...as long as it is done legally and it sticks, that's what I want.
Even tho, I want to know NOW what they have, who they think, how it was done....etc., I know that my personal feelings, opinions, wants and wishes do not count in the grand scheme of the whole case.
Let us all remember that a young woman, a promising Marine who was pregnant was brutally murdered. That she and her baby were buried in a horrific way and someone has to pay. However, whoever brings forth the truth of this is to commended and not crucified. It will all come out eventually. Somehow, someway. And I for one want the truth to come out in a way that will be justice, legal and binding for Maria and Gabriel. Even if it is not done in a way I would like.
Need I add...JMO>IMO<MOO?

:rose:

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by hinman
This part also


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The question is, why has his wife not been charged? And the reason I ask this is, there is no way -- there is no way she did not have some complicity in this, and they do not absolutely need to give her immunity to prosecute him. They found a body in his back yard, for Pete`s sakes!

LALAMA: This is a very good question. We`ve all been going back and forth on this all day. And let`s go first to Sheriff Brown because, Sheriff, I know we only have a short time with you. A lot of people feel there is no way that Laurean`s wife cannot be implicit in this, that she had to help him. What is your position? Everyone`s saying she`s off the hook. Is that fast (ph) and clear that she`s not responsible?

BROWN: My remarks are, the people that are making those accusations do not have the facts. We have the facts. And at the present time, there are no evidence to bring charges.

LALAMA: No evidence she was communicating with him by e-mail? If she knew where he was, is that not bad enough?

BROWN: I haven`t said she was communicating. I said now there is no evidence to bring charges against her for a criminal act. [/*]

At Press Conf. RS alluded to all facts have been presented to Hudson, it will be the DA's determination as to any charges to be rendered. At this time, no charges are pending.
Put firmly in the lap of Mr. Hudson and DA (prosecutors)., Could this be why CSL lawyer was at the press confrence? It was Brown, Sutherland and Lawyer who professed CSL innocence and amazing grace in this investigation. IIRC.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I did think Christina was involved to some degree but I have backed off from that train of thought and I'll gladly let DA Hudson control whether or not he has evidence to charge or not charge. If he doesn't ever charge her, I can certainly live with that as it's no skin off my nose.

I always respected everyone's opinions and still do but after today, I give up too. TODAY, there has been so much rudeness, sniping, etc. I am not saying it hasn't happened on here before, but today's has just been way over the top. My skin is pretty thick but this has been ridiculous today, IMO.

NO ONE can freely give their opinion anymore. And BTW, didn't you know that the citizens of Onslow County are country boobs too? Supposedly we are since we keep re-electing this "Bozo" sheriff who has a thing for "hangers", etc.

JMO [/*]

I think you should be very proud of Sheriff Brown. He is a genuine man with a heart of gold and has such a long career in law enforcement.

LE in my state have also used the divining rod so I know that is a cool tool that actually works in finding buried bodies.

I hope he is re-elected for many terms to come.

I do think that maybe SB does believe she was involved somehow but at this time they cant prove it even if their gut feelings tells them so.

Who knows another DA may look at the same evidence one day and decide that they do have enough to take it to trial. It won't be the first time that has happened.

imoo

[shelkobe]

I'm only on page 5 and will never get caught up to a current conversation, but wanted to give a big thank you to Lynn Gweeny for the link to the press conference.

I never realized how young Rick Sutherland looks. No wonder he scopes out the Internet for comments and to listen to local chatter.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
Good night all, looooong day, huh? I luv and respect you all, TTYL.

:seeya:
AB [/*]

Right back at Ya Ms. Bean, Sweet Dreams :seeya:

[hinman]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I think you should be very proud of Sheriff Brown. He is a genuine man with a heart of gold and has such a long career in law enforcement.

LE in my state have also used the divining rod so I know that is a cool tool that actually works in finding buried bodies.

I hope he is re-elected for many terms to come.

I do think that maybe SB does believe she was involved somehow but at this time they cant prove it even if their gut feelings tells them so.

Who knows another DA may look at the same evidence one day and decide that they do have enough to take it to trial. It won't be the first time that has happened.

imoo [/*]oh I agree GB. You know sheriff Brown has a heart of gold. He did get on my nerves a time or two and gave me a few good laughs.

I have always felt that SB believes she was involved and I have always said evidence is what is going to save her behind. I still stand by that.

We can all believe what we want but if there was evidence they would have charged her butt buy now.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Just want to repeat once more that Hudson said tonite, live on Greta, that the FBI is still processing evidence.....
IF charges are to be brought, the DA will be the one to do it... [/*]

Ty, computer forensics investigation, FBI and NCIS. Oh the waste of energy this day. All the relief of CL capture. Now the real work beings.

Nite All :seeya:

[hinman]

nite Janz.:seeya:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Just want to repeat once more that Hudson said tonite, live on Greta, that the FBI is still processing evidence.....
IF charges are to be brought, the DA will be the one to do it... [/*]

Hmmm interesting. Thanks, sherry.

[baywench]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I think you should be very proud of Sheriff Brown. He is a genuine man with a heart of gold and has such a long career in law enforcement.

LE in my state have also used the divining rod so I know that is a cool tool that actually works in finding buried bodies.

I hope he is re-elected for many terms to come.

I do think that maybe SB does believe she was involved somehow but at this time they cant prove it even if their gut feelings tells them so.

Who knows another DA may look at the same evidence one day and decide that they do have enough to take it to trial. It won't be the first time that has happened.

imoo [/*]

So true and I am a great admirer of southern ways. Really, I'm a Southener wannabe

[baywench]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
I'm still waiting for LE to interview CL.... [/*]

I too will not take a bite of that crow until I have to. I just can't be wrong I tell you, I can't. JMO

[hinman]

Originally posted by baywench


I too will not take a bite of that crow until I have to. I just can't be wrong I tell you, I can't. JMO [/*]:lol: I know how you feel darn it I hate when I am wrong.. It seems to be happening a lot though to me.

I am not saying you are wrong though:D

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae


:beer:

And proud to be counted as one, thank you ma'am! [/*]

:beer: Kathy*Rae

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by lonetraveler


==============================================
IMO, the ability to take a young pregnant woman and put her into a pit, after suposedly beating her to death, and burning her and the unborn baby and having a bbq over her body, proves that someone with big, brown eyes with long eye lashes, the brown eyes, soleful and warm, could actually do this to a human being. I do hope that the jurors are not picked from the few on this board who are feeling like Cesar is just like their own sons......... [/*]

Amen, lonetraveler, amen!!!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by sherryhefner




Could he do all of that, alone, in the short time framed allotted? [/*]

Not IMO!!!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by hinman
I think I read a quote by the MC that she was not being investigated for any crime that they are aware of.

Your post reminded me of that. [/*]

Investigated and being watched to me and IMO are two different things.

[Babes]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


This is what Capt. Sutherland said at the PC today:

Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his wife and relatives for money and other resources to help him on the run, Sutherland said, but his wife refused to provide it, knowing it was illegal.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2719416/ [/*]

IMO if she's a cooperating witness and he asked for money then she should tell LE and they will set up a trap to get him and pretend that they will send him some money

[VC2]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
I'm still waiting for LE to interview CL.... [/*]

and if he then tries to save his skin by saying "twasnt poor little me, i loved her...christina murdered her!" many people on this board will take his every word as gospel saying "I KNEW IT" :rolleyes:

imo

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Then we have what Sheriff Brown said tonight on the Nancy Grace show:

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Did she not notice anything wrong with her back yard?

LALAMA: Well, Sheriff, let`s answer that question because I know we have a little bit of time left with you. Is it the presumption that the wife simply just didn`t know there was anything wrong in her home, in the back yard, in the environment?

BROWN: That is what we have been told by her. I know there`s been a lot of speculations. However, we have to deal with the facts that we know and can prove. And at this time, as strange as it may sound to the average citizen, it`s possible that she did not know this had taken place. I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but...

LALAMA: Right now, she`s off the hook. That`s what you`re saying. Thank you, sir.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/ng.01.html [/*]

First, thank you Lynn for your super woman abilities in giving us soooo many links at the perfect moment. I'm amazed girl, I'm amazed.
Next, I have to take notice of Brown's...."And at this time..." and ...."it's possible"...."I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but..."
The key words in all of this, IMO, says they have NOT ruled out anything as far as CSL is concerned, and that is just their way of saying to the public, we can't say anything right now.
To me that says, no she's not off the hook completely. But who knows at this time what may come up.
JMO

[Babes]

Originally posted by Oregongal


First, thank you Lynn for your super woman abilities in giving us soooo many links at the perfect moment. I'm amazed girl, I'm amazed.
Next, I have to take notice of Brown's...."And at this time..." and ...."it's possible"...."I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but..."
The key words in all of this, IMO, says they have NOT ruled out anything as far as CSL is concerned, and that is just their way of saying to the public, we can't say anything right now.
To me that says, no she's not off the hook completely. But who knows at this time what may come up.
JMO [/*]

IMO she's not off the hook and LE is protecting her in exchange for the "right" that she has that Sheriff Brown broke when he let Greta inside the Laurean's house. Xtina is obviously not providing all the info to LE based on LE's words that they have Intel report that Cesar possibly went back to United States before - If Christina is cooperating with them fully then they should know that Cesar is still in mexico chatting with Christina in the Internet Cafe.

[Babes]

Originally posted by JD81


Pssst Annie, everyone was wrong already about Christina. Game over.:o :D [/*]

I cant believe how LE is protecting Christina already when they havent directly interview Cesar YET to provide details of everything that happened. What's up with that?:rolleyes: -

[Babes]

Originally posted by wandering
It was also reported that CL was asking for money, but no one was sending him any. If Christina was so involved, don't you think she would have sent him some $$$$$$$? [/*]


If she was so involved - one thing she would need to do is "play safe" and giving him money is not playing safe specially when her azz is being monitored everyday IMO

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by Babes


IMO she's not off the hook and LE is protecting her in exchange for the "right" that she has that Sheriff Brown broke when he let Greta inside the Laurean's house. Xtina is obviously not providing all the info to LE based on LE's words that they have Intel report that Cesar possibly went back to United States before - If Christina is cooperating with them fully then they should know that Cesar is still in mexico chatting with Christina in the Internet Cafe. [/*]

ITA that she is not off the hook. As for LE protecting her, IMO they may have been using her or have made a deal with her. But, a big BUT, if she has done something that they didn't have in that deal, such as...loving him so much and wanting to help him by communicating with him in a way that was not part of the deal, she's in deep s*i*. But, at this time, until CL is back in the US and under their custody, they will no way let this come to be known.
I am going to wait until CL is in US custody and in the Onslow Co. control and interrogation. Patience. It's a hard thing, but so many times is what brings the truth and justice to be known. Until he is on US soil and whatever 'facts', 'evidence' is let known to the public, in whatever way LE chooses, I will not let my mind believe from all that has been noted already, that CSL has had nothing to do with the murder of Maria and Gabriel, or the cover up and escape of CL. IMO, there hasn't been enough evidence to totally erase or clear wifey from any of it.
There may not at this time...per LE...evidence to connect her, but on the other hand, there isn't enough evidence to discount her either.
JMO>IMO>IMHO>MOO

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Swarovski


Exactly!! I sure would like to know what a *cold blooded killer* is supposed to look like. Will Christina have that look? [/*]

:seeya:

[MoonFlwr]

Snippets of the press conference from CNN
(I think most posters have seen it, but someone mentioned they hadn't, so am posting it anyway).

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/04/12/grace.cesar.laurean.cnn?iref=videosearch

[Pinetree]

Christina has been coddled and protected from the beginning.....would love to see what she looks like. Might help explain why the DA is so seemingly smitten. :shrug:

[martha]

I see there or some posters like me they can;t go to sleep tonight. it was 3;30 last night before i could go to sleep. same tonight. i am just so very glad they caught him. I had about given up on them catching cl. but they showed me ha this is such a good time for ml family. I pray ml and her baby get some justice now.:rose: I still think there is so much about the case we don;t know. SB is a very good man and he is really trying not to say something to mess this case up. I hope tomorrow they will bring him back to nc.:rose:

[MoonFlwr]

Have you gone to bed yet, martha?

It's only 7:30 pm here.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


Unofficial transcript of what D.A. Hudson said about Christina to Greta On the Record:

D. A. Hudson: Greta, I am very convinced that she was not aware of the murder of Maria Lauterbach and that she played no part in the disposal of her body. I’m absolutely positive, I think for all the relevant information that we have, we have a lot of information, letters back and forth between the two of them, her diaries that we seized a couple weeks ago. If you read these, her diaries, you would realize she was even contemplating suicide in January and put in her diaries all the reasons she didn’t commit suicide is because she had an 18 month-old daughter. If you read those letters, you’d have a lot of compassion for Laurean’s wife, Christina. [/*]

Ahhh, but that was in January. When in January? January the 11th, right after Cesar left? Or did her spirits pick back up as soon as she regained contact with him? Is she despondent only because Cesar left her? Does she ever mention the fact that there was a body of a woman who she believed her husband had an affair with, along with a baby that might possibly a product of that affair, buried in her backyard?

Sorry Dewey, but these diaries and letters need to be viewed by someone who is in expert in spousal relationships. You can bet Wally Parramore's gonna be asking the same questions.

JMO

[wandering]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Ahhh, but that was in January. When in January? January the 11th, right after Cesar left? Or did her spirits pick back up as soon as she regained contact with him? Is she despondent only because Cesar left her? Does she ever mention the fact that there was a body of a woman who she believed her husband had an affair with, along with a baby that might possibly a product of that affair, buried in her backyard?

Sorry Dewey, but these diaries and letters need to be viewed by someone who is in expert in spousal relationships. You can bet Wally Parramore's gonna be asking the same questions.

JMO [/*]Maybe it just is what it is. The diaries and letters have been read by LE. They have their own experts. :rolleyes:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by wandering
Maybe it just is what it is. The diaries and letters have been read by LE. They have their own experts. :rolleyes: [/*]

Ah yes, nothing says innocent like a grown woman pining away in a diary like she got stood up for the prom.

:rolleyes: right back at ya!

[wandering]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Ah yes, nothing says innocent like a grown woman pining away in a diary like she got stood up for the prom.

:rolleyes: right back at ya! [/*]I hope nothing like this ever happens to you. :rose:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Ahhh, but that was in January. When in January? January the 11th, right after Cesar left? Or did her spirits pick back up as soon as she regained contact with him? Is she despondent only because Cesar left her? Does she ever mention the fact that there was a body of a woman who she believed her husband had an affair with, along with a baby that might possibly a product of that affair, buried in her backyard?

Sorry Dewey, but these diaries and letters need to be viewed by someone who is in expert in spousal relationships. You can bet Wally Parramore's gonna be asking the same questions.

JMO [/*]

ITA CRYME, and last night heard Hudson say they aren't even half way thru the email exchanges on Greta. Oh boy....not for all the tea in China.

I truly admire DA Hudson and hope he hasn't put his neck out to have it chopped off. HE knows most of AMERICA is thinking this stinks to high heaven with Christina but he is trudging on. IF THIS is the trickle down from Duke, OMG....what a travesty that really was can never be understated....:(

I'm glad Ed Brown isn't interesting in finding himself in the middle of that. I loved when he called it like it is last night on Nancy.

:patriot: GO ED BROWN!

JMO.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Babes


I cant believe how LE is protecting Christina already when they havent directly interview Cesar YET to provide details of everything that happened. What's up with that?:rolleyes: - [/*]

WOO HOOO....BABES!

I was thinking about you this AM hoping you were safe and in a place you would hear about Cesar being captured. Well, sumpin tells me we will learn it was probably CESAR calling for them to pick him up from a throw-away wireless....;)

He was ready to come face the music is my only guess.

Now it's time for him to SING LIKE A CANARY TOO!

JMO:read:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by VC2


and if he then tries to save his skin by saying "twasnt poor little me, i loved her...christina murdered her!" many people on this board will take his every word as gospel saying "I KNEW IT" :rolleyes:

imo [/*]

No, but if he has any kind of evidence to back it up, you better bet they would be remiss not to look at her IMO.

She had more in the battle and finally people who claimed she would never have contact with a man who would bury a body in the backyard have to face that she deliberately gave him a good head start PLAN IMO and she has indeed HAD CONTACT and DID NOT TELL LE ABOUT IT.

SHAME ON HER. :no:

JMO

But but but, she's a woman and women don't lie.....oh yeah...

She has ZERO integrity from my POV. :cuss:

[wandering]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


LOL, it never fails wandering, during some cases there are always those that swoon over the woman/baby killers. Maybe some will shave their heads and appear in court behind the defense table. :tongue:

I heard last night that even if he doesn't fight extradition it will take around 60 days for the Justice Department to get all the
paperwork together.

Keeping a journal is a very good way to help work out problems and stress, many adults keep them.

:seeya: [/*]Yep, they do. They aren't meant for others to read.

I've noticed the willingness here to throw Christina under the bus. I chalk it up to subservient women, who drool at the sight of a good-looking man, no matter what he does or says.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by wandering
Yep, they do. They aren't meant for others to read.

I've noticed the willingness here to throw Christina under the bus. I chalk it up to subservient women, who drool at the sight of a good-looking man, no matter what he does or says. [/*]

Subservient women who drool at the sight of a good looking man, no matter what he does or says?

Sounds like Christina's diary to me.

Sorry, not throwing anybody under the bus. Far from it.

But you feel free to call names!

:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


LOL, it never fails wandering, during some cases there are always those that swoon over the woman/baby killers. Maybe some will shave their heads and appear in court behind the defense table. :tongue:

I heard last night that even if he doesn't fight extradition it will take around 60 days for the Justice Department to get all the
paperwork together.

Keeping a journal is a very good way to help work out problems and stress, many adults keep them.

:seeya: [/*]

I haven't seen anybody swooning over anybody. But if you can point to a particular post, I'll be glad to take a look at it.

TIA

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


So why are they telling us they had her diaries, had her emails, etc? THAT didn't help capture Cesar...he himself walked up to a mexican roadblock which was there for another purpose. Mexican Le might have been keeping their eyes peeled so to speak but they didn't sppear to be knocking on doors looking for him, they stumbled upon him... now I hear that NC LE and FBI "knew" where he was and were just closing in or whatever....:rolleyes: I am running the big old red BS flag up on this, if they knew where he was why didn't they go GET him and preserve the death penalty for this case?

IMO they had no clue, and XT has been emiling him back and forth and never told LE she had contact with the man that a whole lot of money and resources were being spent to find. She has no regard for the law, imo, and also lies, imo, so why should I give her the benefit of the doubt and think shes innocent in all this? Shes got alot of proving to do, to convince me.
Unfortunately, she has to prove nothing. She IUPG and the burden isn't on her, but if her timeline is as messed up IRL as it appears to be on the boards- all of them- her claims on innocence might me pretty weak and pathetic. jmo [/*]

Excellent post Annie. I hope they are watching her like a hawk and when he returns I hope they turn the heat up too. IMO if they can get to her close friends, they might get a leg up on the tie in. JMO tho. :shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


I have been saying she was way involved for a long long time and I just thought for the first time yesterday that Cesar was a decent looking guy- he looked mean and evil in his photos...
he looked the opposite of what I expected him to look like, which was cocky, smug, etc. Instead I saw scared, lonely, releived maybe?, and while I don't want to say HE'S innocent in all of this, I am definately not beleiving SHE is!! [/*]

You mean you're not shaving your head?

:eek:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by wandering
I hope nothing like this ever happens to you. :rose: [/*]

Nor to you. :rose:

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Mother's mission clear in aftermath of Marine's death

Seven large boxes filled with Maria Lauterbach's personal belongings arrived back in Vandalia on Monday.

For the 20-year-old slain Marine lance corporal's family, touching all of her things — the prized softball glove, her soccer cleats, her favorite music CDs and the present she had bought her mother for Christmas — brought the reality of Maria's death home.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/11/ddn041208lauterbachinside.html [/*]

Hey Lynn - the mother was on the Today show this morning talking about CL capture this week along with the boxes she received of Maria's things. She was with her two attorneys in Dayton I believe. She said she was out shopping for prom dresses when she heard the news (she received a text from a niece).

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by wandering
Yep, they do. They aren't meant for others to read.

I've noticed the willingness here to throw Christina under the bus. I chalk it up to subservient women, who drool at the sight of a good-looking man, no matter what he does or says. [/*]

Yep, they're all about hanging Christina and giving the charged murderer the benefit of the doubt cuz he has "kind" eyes.........lol. You know what they'd call women like this who knew Ted Bundy? Victims.

The fact that LE allowed Chris Welch, Christina's attorney to join them in the pc yesterday and the manner in which both Captain Sutherland and Dewey Hudson took up for Christina, tells me she is not going to be arrested. Instead, she will be a great witness for the Prosecution against this "kind" eyed woman/baby killer. IMO.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


noooooooooo [/*]

:D

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
quote:
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Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


LOL, it never fails wandering, during some cases there are always those that swoon over the woman/baby killers. Maybe some will shave their heads and appear in court behind the defense table.

I heard last night that even if he doesn't fight extradition it will take around 60 days for the Justice Department to get all the
paperwork together.

Keeping a journal is a very good way to help work out problems and stress, many adults keep them.

[/*]
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I hardly think anyone here is swooning. Many of us are just being honest about how we felt when we saw the big bad evil Cesar on video for the first time....HIS appearance hasn't changed anyones mind about what they think of XT one way or another, I do beleive....

What kind of a brainless twit, unless done for CYA purposes later on, would keep a freaking diary about her communications with her husband who is on the run, knowing LE can come and seize anything they find...hmmm...XT wants the world to beleive she was so so dumb, didn't notice a murder had taken place in her own home, didn't notice forensic evidence on celiling and walls of home, didn't notice a dead body going from her garage to a pit in her backyard, didn't question Cesar apparently, or she would like us to beleive, but every "couple of months" on what the status of the ML rape accusations were...shes not so dumb, I have a feeling she is the most clever of the two of them and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...jmo [/*]

I think they are. Many people keep journals, no crime in that. Cheer up, maybe Christina has kind eyes........ :tongue:

As I said above, from what I observed at the PC yesterday I don't think an arrest is in Christina's future.

[crymeariver2006]

Still searching for posts where people are swooning, shaving their heads, and wanting to marry Cesar.....

:read:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


LOL, it never fails wandering, during some cases there are always those that swoon over the woman/baby killers. Maybe some will shave their heads and appear in court behind the defense table. :tongue:

I heard last night that even if he doesn't fight extradition it will take around 60 days for the Justice Department to get all the
paperwork together.

Keeping a journal is a very good way to help work out problems and stress, many adults keep them.

:seeya: [/*]

I have never swooned over a woman/baby killer.

I guess some of us should have just lied or kept our opinions to ourself, right Reggie. To be able to fit in with the clique so that sarcastic remarks such as shaving our heads wont be lobbed at us?

I fully expected to see a man that was defiant, smug, arrogant with hardened cold unfeeling eyes. I am not going to lie and say I saw such a man when I did not. I saw the opposite and even the psyche doctor on NG did too.

I do find it quite sad that no one heckles those who do see him as having cold eyes yet if others do not have the same cloned opinions they seem to be taunted with mean spiritedness and are accused of swooning over women/baby killers.:(

imoo

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
Still searching for posts where people are swooning, shaving their heads, and wanting to marry Cesar.....

:read: [/*]

Well cryme, everybody wants to be a victim. So consider yourself a victim of a false accusation and get ready for the fitting of your new white sequined gown. You finally made it to the victims club.

Also get your bio ready for a rewrite. :tongue:

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!

Annie, your hem is being touched up, but you're going to love your new life....you're a librarian who never left your little country house, almost perfect IIRC.

jmo

sarcasm returned for the abuse given to people who dare to feel empathy or sympathy.

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by wandering
Yep, they do. They aren't meant for others to read.

I've noticed the willingness here to throw Christina under the bus. I chalk it up to subservient women, who drool at the sight of a good-looking man, no matter what he does or says. [/*]

Subservient women? Perhaps you need to clarify that statement! It's rude, condescending, and inappropriate!

CL, IMO, is a cold blooded killer!

I happen to believe the wife had to know something or be involved in some way as she did live in the same house with him fgs - how could she not know something went on there? Doesn't mean I am throwing her under the bus, just feel all avenues need to be explored in depth before LE can be certain she wasn't part of taking the life of Maria or helping to cover it up!

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Subservient women? Perhaps you need to clarify that statement! It's rude, condescending, and inappropriate!

CL, IMO, is a cold blooded killer!

I happen to believe the wife had to know something or be involved in some way as she did live in the same house with him fgs - how could she not know something went on there? Doesn't mean I am throwing her under the bus, just feel all avenues need to be explored in depth before LE can be certain she wasn't part of taking the life of Maria or helping to cover it up! [/*]

:beer:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by wandering
Yep, they do. They aren't meant for others to read.

I've noticed the willingness here to throw Christina under the bus. I chalk it up to subservient women, who drool at the sight of a good-looking man, no matter what he does or says. [/*]

It seems to me the only one drooling over the good looking man is Christina Laurean....she seems to still be pining away for her guy.

imoo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Subservient women? Perhaps you need to clarify that statement! It's rude, condescending, and inappropriate!

CL, IMO, is a cold blooded killer!

I happen to believe the wife had to know something or be involved in some way as she did live in the same house with him fgs - how could she not know something went on there? Doesn't mean I am throwing her under the bus, just feel all avenues need to be explored in depth before LE can be certain she wasn't part of taking the life of Maria or helping to cover it up! [/*]

Exactly!

:beer:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


It seems to me the only one drooling over the good looking man is Christina Laurean....she seems to still be pining away for her guy.

imoo [/*]

;)

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


It seems to me the only one drooling over the good looking man is Christina Laurean....she seems to still be pining away for her guy.

imoo [/*]

WOW, isn't that the truth? The very woman they claim to support. Yet here they are out in the WORLD WIDE WEB of messageboards tearing away at other women who simply feel compassion and have a desire to know what really happened to take a kid who worked his way through high school in the ROTC program to get into the USMC and proceeded to excell in his time with them. I believe he earned the rating of stellar by his job performance, but it all went out the window with a heated moment being out of control for someone or more than one.

No, I don't see anything wrong with wondering what happened to change it all?

JMO:shrug:

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


It seems to me the only one drooling over the good looking man is Christina Laurean....she seems to still be pining away for her guy.

imoo [/*]

Yes, she does! LE said last night how much she loves him - while he is saying "I loved her" referring to Maria... that doesn't make much sense either. He loved her, yet allegedly raped her - okay! And out of that love just stood by while she slit her own throat - whatever!

It should be interesting to hear (if we get a chance to) the writings of Christina!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I have never swooned over a woman/baby killer.

I guess some of us should have just lied or kept our opinions to ourself, right Reggie.

(snipped)


imoo [/*]

Now gentlebreeze, as I have said before you are entitled to your views and so am I.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Yes, she does! LE said last night how much she loves him - while he is saying "I loved her" referring to Maria... that doesn't make much sense either. He loved her, yet allegedly raped her - okay! And out of that love just stood by while she slit her own throat - whatever!

It should be interesting to hear (if we get a chance to) the writings of Christina! [/*]

Miss behavin, I tend to believe the friends and that Maria and Cesar had a relationship. Even Christina acknowledges that now as she attempts to get over her feelings about him cheating on her for Maria.

Yes, I too want to see the writings of Christina but remember the FBI isn't done with them yet. They have probably got half completed. :o

Let's see if the happy faces keep on keepin' on after they are all the way through these exchanges.

Oh dear, my man is ringing the bell, I better run.....:chicken:

jmo

[Miss Behavin]

Because Maria was an Ohio native, her mother, Mary, has been on our local news all morning. She says she is looking forward to finally finding out what really happened that day.

(bit ot... right after Mary talked to the reporter they showed bobby cutts and talked briefly about his appeal being filed in stark county common pleas court citing inconsistent verdicts and lack of sufficient evidence.....):rolleyes:

[wandering]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Yes, she does! LE said last night how much she loves him - while he is saying "I loved her" referring to Maria... that doesn't make much sense either. He loved her, yet allegedly raped her - okay! And out of that love just stood by while she slit her own throat - whatever!

It should be interesting to hear (if we get a chance to) the writings of Christina! [/*]Oh, yeah, you're just waiting to peek into her private thoughts. Guess what? Diaries are rarely produced in court. Heh, heh...

[wandering]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


No, but if he has any kind of evidence to back it up, you better bet they would be remiss not to look at her IMO.

She had more in the battle and finally people who claimed she would never have contact with a man who would bury a body in the backyard have to face that she deliberately gave him a good head start PLAN IMO and she has indeed HAD CONTACT and DID NOT TELL LE ABOUT IT.

SHAME ON HER. :no:

JMO

But but but, she's a woman and women don't lie.....oh yeah...

She has ZERO integrity from my POV. :cuss: [/*]How many ways does the sheriff have to say it? She isn't guilty of any crime. He said it, over and over. :rolleyes:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Oh good a librarian, I have the perfect glasses for that..Can I work from home? LOL [/*]

Why you always have AnnieBean, you just didn't know you did and that network of computers you have there is to die for. JMO.
:D

Missbehavin, I hope Mary gets all the answers she is looking for and if she ever comes to the conclusion Maria did have a relationship, I see her having the strength to go confront Cesar myself. She appears to be a woman of great faith no matter what I think of her personally, and I wish her the best along with her husband and the children left behind. I particularly worry about Anne because in my eyes SHE LOST SO MUCH. Maria was the ONE TRUE MELDED CONNECTION she had to her truth IMO.

I also wonder what Mary is thinking about Christina with all the questions in the letter. JMO

I can't stop thinking of the boxes of Maria's things and her gift for her mother. :rose:

RIP Maria and Gabriel. :rose:

[wandering]

Originally posted by Miss Behavin


Subservient women? Perhaps you need to clarify that statement! It's rude, condescending, and inappropriate!

CL, IMO, is a cold blooded killer!

I happen to believe the wife had to know something or be involved in some way as she did live in the same house with him fgs - how could she not know something went on there? Doesn't mean I am throwing her under the bus, just feel all avenues need to be explored in depth before LE can be certain she wasn't part of taking the life of Maria or helping to cover it up! [/*]I think they already took care of that.

She was working, and taking care of her child.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by wandering
How many ways does the sheriff have to say it? She isn't guilty of any crime. He said it, over and over. :rolleyes: [/*]

I didn't realize the investigation was fully completed. Did I miss that?

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by wandering
How many ways does the sheriff have to say it? She isn't guilty of any crime. He said it, over and over. :rolleyes: [/*]

:lol: Oh dear, this way for sure....
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LALAMA: Well, Sheriff, let`s answer that question because I know we have a little bit of time left with you. Is it the presumption that the wife simply just didn`t know there was anything wrong in her home, in the back yard, in the environment?

BROWN: That is what we have been told by her. I know there`s been a lot of speculations. However, we have to deal with the facts that we know and can prove. And at this time, as strange as it may sound to the average citizen, it`s possible that she did not know this had taken place. I said possible. Stranger things have happened, but...

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:beer: Ed Brown isn't drinking the same kool-aid IMO.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/ng.01.html

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by wandering
Oh, yeah, you're just waiting to peek into her private thoughts. Guess what? Diaries are rarely produced in court. Heh, heh... [/*]

IIRC Jennifer Levin's was in the Robert Chambers trial.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I didn't realize the investigation was fully completed. Did I miss that? [/*]

We must have been too busy shaving our heads....

:D

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I didn't realize the investigation was fully completed. Did I miss that? [/*]

Well now Cardinal, Sheriff Ed Brown doesn't think so, and Dewey Hudson admitted on Greta that only half the email exchanges had been analyzed....so I think we will see.

My guess is that Christina knew exactly how far she could go, just like I beieve she knew what the notes needed to say.

FGS, they had been to attorneys and were aware of what needed to happen from my POV.

One thing they didn't count on was this getting so big IMO. I really think they thought it might go over to the military and be tied up in a hurry.

It's always been my feeling they planned to meet up much later IF THERE WAS A DEAL. IOW, if Cesar decided to be the one running off and he was doing the dirty work, then I think he paid the price for his infidelity with that. JMO tho. :shrug:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by wandering
She loves her husband. Did you miss the part where she refused to send him money?

He's the father of her child. Duh...

Does one ever recover from this kind of horror? [/*]

Seems the milk of human kindness only flows to the woman/baby killer.

I think you are right, it will be many years if ever that Christina recovers from the betrayal of her husband and the disgrace he has brought upon her and their little daughter. I'm glad she has
the support of the prosecutor and the local LE.