Friday evening - 4/11/08

[n/t]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


n/t, I believe his "I loved her" was in response to a question specifically about Maria. It's not like they sat down and had a two-hour discussion with him about life in general.....sorry to be facetious about that, but I don't think you can take that one quote out of context and say he SHOULD have said such and such about so and so. The circumstances to his quote were not such that he would mention anyone else. IMO. [/*]

OK and are we all supposed to believe him? Sounds like some are convinced he's saying the truth. Someone who's been on the run from Law Enforcement and charged with murder? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he asked why he killed Maria and his response was "I loved her"? Seriously.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Didn't someone speculate earlier that LE could have been impersonating Christina on the recent communications?

ETA: Which begs the question: if Christina were cooperating so fully, why was there a "raid" and the seizure of her computer? [/*]

I am still lookin for links that state "raid" and "Seizure", I did read confiscate computer and SW at her sisters home & property.

I still think she was cooperating with LE, using her sisters PC, leading him to believe he was safe, while she reeled him in. JMO

Who knows, maybe they were savy enough to ensure him he was safe, like a program to log into the computer, PC anywhere? Giving the impression he could also access her outgoing emails ensuring she was not leading him into a trap. :shrug:

[sunstar]

Hi again everyone :seeya: Nancy isn't hosting her show tonight (darn it ~ I was looking forward to seeing her reaction!). But CL is being talked about.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2
does anyone have the link for the board that RS posts on? he mentioned something about trying to return to it and answer more questions this evening (when he told ppl they would learn more bout christina during the pc and more answers)

btw as far as feeling some sympathy, i actually almost always do. (even a john couey, i end up thinking of them when they were sweet little babies and toddlers wanting to grow up and be firemen or baseball players and what in life twisted them so much). For the more "ordinary" murderers i actually have a lot of sympathy. Studies have shown that they have the lowest recidivism rate - most countries don't even use LWOP much let alone capital punishment. Generally they occur when a tragic set of circumstances all combine in the perfect storm, ones that won't ever combine again. In other words, good people who go terribly bad for a short time. Don't get me wrong i think there are people who need LWOP but to many others are taking up room in prisons when releasing them after 10 or 20 years would not be a danger to society. Most canadian murders get 15 to 25 years. The worst of the worst get life. Nothing brings back a victim, but it does not mean the perpetrator is evil or will kill again.

I rarely if ever take what they do afterwards to a body as something that shows some sort of evil, even though when discussing it i might call it that. Few of us can imagine the panic and shock that goes through someone's mind when they suddenly have a dead body on their hands. Most want to get it away and hidden as fast as possible and all signs of it which leads to some ummm creativity?

I have more sympathy for the victims, their families and the perps though. Probably why i completely understand christina still loving cesar. She knows him as a good husband and father who would never do what he did (in normal circumstances).

When it comes to murder, their acts are evil but they may not be.

jmo [/*]

VC, your posts on this forum are outstanding, IMO. Glad you are following the case and weighing in here with us!

:seeya:

[JD81]

Case on NG right now.

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by JD81


I just explained the murder charge will cover what he did with the body. No separate charge is needed. Of course they had proof for the other charge.

Where he put the body and what he did to conceal it will be covered in the murder charge. jmo

MOO [/*]

I agree......but if he had posed the body or dismembered the body, I believe they would have a charge there.

[daniel green]

The DA said "seized" in interviews last night.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by n/t


Or maybe he's making a statement that he had planned in case he was captured. Do you honestly believe he didn't have the time to think up what he would say? Why believe a cold blooded murderer, coward and fugitive who's been on the run for months?

I guess I must've been gone too long because I'm stunned by the reaction by some here.

The day Cesar Laurean is finally captured and Maria and baby Gabriel finally closer to getting justice has turned out to be a feel sorry for Cesar and Christine day. That's the impression I'm getting from reading the posts.

Who gives a darn what he looked like? What did posters expect him to look like? He was on the run and hiding from Law Enforcement for God's sakes! Did posters think he'd show up in a suit and tie?

This is absurd. [/*]

You continue to say this, but here you are again after telling someone else not to waste your time...

This look familiar?

Originally posted by n/t


OK so why ask me if you got it. Good grief. Don't waste my time. I'm busy catching up. :punch: [/*]

Didn't you choose to start projecting your feelings into this tragedy? :confused: You were wasting your time from my POV.

Your post to demean other posters....
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n/t
Senior Member

Registered: Jan 2007
Location: "Trust is earned by many deeds, and lost by only one."
Posts: 8700
If it wasn't so sad, I'd be laughing. I honestly can't believe that some are discussing how a murderer should look. It almost sounds like some are feeling sorry for him. Maybe Scott Peterson didn't look like one either but guess what, he murdered his wife and baby!


Carry on.....
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IF some are feeling sorry for him, that is their right IMO. It doesn't take away what he is accused of doing, but to suggest we have to follow some kind of protocol about our feelings is simply not okay IMO.


So respectfully, save your time because lecturing posters on how they can feel isn't going to do anything for you IMO.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


I am still lookin for links that state "raid" and "Seizure", I did read confiscate computer and SW at her sisters home & property.

I still think she was cooperating with LE, using her sisters PC, leading him to believe he was safe, while she reeled him in. JMO

Who knows, maybe they were savy enough to ensure him he was safe, like a program to log into the computer, PC anywhere? Giving the impression he could also access her outgoing emails ensuring she was not leading him into a trap. :shrug: [/*]

Yes! I asked that question earlier, about "seized" her computer. :shrug: And I did think about the word "raid".....IIRC, that came from the JDNews message board...haven't heard it officially!

[JD81]

Originally posted by JanDoe


I agree......but if he had posed the body or dismembered the body, I believe they would have a charge there. [/*]

Oh, OK I see what you mean. I didn't think of that.

[n/t]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I guess for the same reason we always discuss how the suspect looks.:shrug:

He had no idea what he would be asked. They asked him did he killed Maria Lauterbach and his answer was "I loved her" It is what it is.:shrug: and what has been in the media. So of course it is discussed like any other case.

I don't feel sorry for him but I don't think he is some stone cold killer either.

imoo [/*]


What are you basing your assumptions on? Curious. Because of his looks? Was it you who said earlier something about his eyes? His eyes don't show a stone cold murderer?

[Lynn Gweeny]

Cesar didn't want the military to 'railroad him' so he wanted to surrender to local authorities, according to Susan Candiotti on NG show. JMO

ETA ~ Sheriff Brown got an email on 3/31/08 from Cesar? Is that what he just said?

[nelkirk]

Originally posted by henry
:seeya: AB . . . i'm also trying to catch up . . . has there been anything released by NCIS yet? :patriot: [/*]

Well the paternity test for the baby has not been done yet, because NCIS wants a fresh sample from CL when he gets back to NC in order to make sure it will not cause the court to question it's integrity.

[martha]

Originally posted by n/t


Or maybe he's making a statement that he had planned in case he was captured. Do you honestly believe he didn't have the time to think up what he would say? Why believe a cold blooded murderer, coward and fugitive who's been on the run for months?

I guess I must've been gone too long because I'm stunned by the reaction by some here.

The day Cesar Laurean is finally captured and Maria and baby Gabriel finally closer to getting justice has turned out to be a feel sorry for Cesar and Christine day. That's the impression I'm getting from reading the posts.

Who gives a darn what he looked like? What did posters expect him to look like? He was on the run and hiding from Law Enforcement for God's sakes! Did posters think he'd show up in a suit and tie?

This is absurd. [/*]or we not allow to say he is cute? that has nothing to do with what an awful thing we think he has done. that don;t mean we or feeling sorry for him.:rose:

[sexxytazz]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Don't forget her diary too....surely she would have ponied that up whilst being the cooperative witness right???;)

JMO [/*]

Any ideas as to why this wasn't taken the first search? Or did she have a second one she started after he left? Guesses?

[daniel green]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


I am still lookin for links that state "raid" and "Seizure", I did read confiscate computer and SW at her sisters home & property.

snipped: [/*]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=32#comment-171

Thursday morning, during a break in the Futrell trial, I spoke to the DA. I showed him a hand written lead to a story the newspaper was prepared to run on Saturday or Sunday. The story covered the search and seizure of evidence two weeks ago at Christina Laurean’s new address. The story would have been based on comments the DA had previously made off the cuff and information from two confidential sources - one of them close to the federal investigation.

[sunstar]

Another email (unconfirmed) that CL sent to OCSD and he wanted to surrender to them and make sure military wasn't involved. Sheriff Brown being interviewed now about email he received 3/31 and confirms it addressed what Susan Candiotti just reported. :eek:

[VC2]

LAUREAN EMAILED THE SHERIFF!!!!! on the 31st of march

on nancy grace

[StickyBeak]

Entry: seize
Function: verb
Pronunciation: 'sez
Inflected Form(s): seized ; seiz·ing
Etymology: Middle English saisen, from Old French saisir to put in possession of, from Medieval Latin sacire, of Germanic origin; perhaps akin to Old High German sezzen to set -- more at SET
transitive senses
1 a usually seise/'sez/ : to vest ownership of a freehold estate in * often seise : to put in possession of something <the biographer will be seized of all pertinent papers>
2 a : to take possession of : CONFISCATE * : to take possession of by legal process
3 a : to possess or take by force : CAPTURE * : to take prisoner : ARREST
4 a : to take hold of : CLUTCH * : to possess oneself of : GRASP c : to understand fully and distinctly : APPREHEND
5 a : to attack or overwhelm physically : AFFLICT <suddenly seized with an acute illness -- H. G. Armstrong> * : to possess (as one's mind) completely or overwhelmingly <seized the popular imagination -- Basil Davenport>
6 : to bind or fasten together with a lashing of small stuff (as yarn, marline, or fine wire)
intransitive senses
1 : to take or lay hold suddenly or forcibly
2 a : to cohere to a relatively moving part through excessive pressure, temperature, or friction -- used especially of machine parts (as bearings, brakes, or pistons) * : to fail to operate due to the seizing of a part -- used of an engine
synonym see TAKE
- seiz·er noun

Pronunciation Key

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[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by VC2
LAUREAN EMAILED THE SHERIFF!!!!! on the 31st of march

on nancy grace [/*]

Thanks for confirming that. I thought that's what he said.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by n/t


OK and are we all supposed to believe him? Sounds like some are convinced he's saying the truth. Someone who's been on the run from Law Enforcement and charged with murder? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he asked why he killed Maria and his response was "I loved her"? Seriously. [/*]

I think it's quite possible he loved her. Why not? People have murdered loved ones, unfortunately, from the beginning of time. There is no hard and fast rule that if you murder someone that means you hate them. How is saying he loved her going to benefit him in any way? Truthfully, I see a confession from him in the future. And I said that from the get-go in this case. I think the murder happened when he "snapped" for whatever reason we don't know as yet. Heat of the moment. All IMO.

[JanDoe]

I posted earlier that this was no accident that Mexican LE, at a
roadside stop, picked him up......they knew for quite sometime
where he was.....

[sunstar]

Originally posted by daniel green
The DA said "seized" in interviews last night. [/*]
I heard that too. The same word has been used by all media when referring to LE taking the computer.

[Oregongal]

Thanks GB, JD and Jan...for all your answers.
NG (but not NG:) is on so can't thank you individually.
:seeya:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


I am/was a little surprised at myself for the fleeting feeling of sympathy for him... has anyone else felt that, even for a second?
snipped[/*]

Absolutely.

And not just for a second.

[martha]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I guess for the same reason we always discuss how the suspect looks.:shrug:

He had no idea what he would be asked. They asked him did he killed Maria Lauterbach and his answer was "I loved her" It is what it is.:shrug: and what has been in the media. So of course it is discussed like any other case.

I don't feel sorry for him but I don't think he is some stone cold killer either.

imoo [/*]GB you or so wise. We can;t let hate take over our minds. Mary l is trying to forgive so we need to keep an open mind on all this. we don;t know the truth about any of it. JMHO:rose:

[n/t]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


You continue to say this, but here you are again after telling someone else not to waste your time...

This look familiar?



Didn't you choose to start projecting your feelings into this tragedy? :confused: You were wasting your time from my POV.

Your post to demean other posters....
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n/t
Senior Member

Registered: Jan 2007
Location: "Trust is earned by many deeds, and lost by only one."
Posts: 8700
If it wasn't so sad, I'd be laughing. I honestly can't believe that some are discussing how a murderer should look. It almost sounds like some are feeling sorry for him. Maybe Scott Peterson didn't look like one either but guess what, he murdered his wife and baby!


Carry on.....
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IF some are feeling sorry for him, that is their right IMO. It doesn't take away what he is accused of doing, but to suggest we have to follow some kind of protocol about our feelings is simply not okay IMO.


So respectfully, save your time because lecturing posters on how they can feel isn't going to do anything for you IMO. [/*]

Oh my. This is hilarious. I'm being lectured by someone telling me not to lecture. Must be a full moon. :eek:

[sunstar]

First question by a caller tonight is why wasn't Mrs. CL charged with anything! Sheriff is saying "we have the facts and at the present time there is no evidence to bring charges for a criminal act".

[SavannahStar]

YES. Sheriff Brown......there is NO evidence to bring charges against Christina.

And MORE IMPORTANTLY: they know things WE do not know!

(As I always said! :D )

[wandering]

No evidence to bring charges against Christina.

[martha]

Originally posted by daniel green


Absolutely.

And not just for a second. [/*] you or great people and have a good heart:rose:

[nelkirk]

Originally posted by daniel green


I see that all the time.

I learned English as his age and had I not spoken it daily for the rest of my life, I would have lost it.

As it is, my Spanish is peppered with words I don't know in Spanish. You know, like "zip code," or "hard drive." [/*]

I can identify with that...spoke Spanish, now I can understand it as long as someone takes pity on me and speaks slowly...and heaven help me I can barely make a reply in Spanish...

And in many ways it isn't the language as much as the culture and idioms...

[JD81]

Sheriff Brown just said no evidence Christina has committed a crime. They know more then the public. :D

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Don't forget her diary too....surely she would have ponied that up whilst being the cooperative witness right???;)

JMO [/*]

I would not be surprised LE asked her to keep a Diary or calender of events. Especially with regard to any communication relating to CLs whereabouts imo

[MoonFlwr]

Originally posted by daniel green


Yep.

If a murderer puts his/her victim in a lovely grave, does that make the murder any more palatable?

Speaking of the Cutts case, I saw the victim's mother speak out at sentencing and forgieve him and say she hoped he would be out of prison some time so he could be a father to her grandson. That was a moment of absolute humanity and grace. [/*]

Absolutely!

I followed that case closely and Jessie's mother carried herself with that grace from the day Jessie was reported missing, until BC was sentenced.
I was thinking - couldn't the world do with some more people like that!

Weird though, some message board posters were criticising Patty (Jessie's mom) for forgiving Bobby in court! :shrug:

Anyway, back on topic...I am glad that Cesar is in custody and that the truth will (hopefully) come out, now.

(Sorry my response is pages later, it's time difference issues! :) )

[wandering]

Originally posted by n/t


Oh my. This is hilarious. I'm being lectured by someone telling me not to lecture. Must be a full moon. :eek: [/*]Ha, ha. Control issues.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by JanDoe


I agree with you and believe he was being helped in small degree.
I wonder who the older woman was that was visiting him? [/*]


I heard on CNN this afternoon--just prior to the news conference starting--that the villagers had thought it was his mother, but that it was more than likely his aunt.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I can identify with that...spoke Spanish, now I can understand it as long as someone takes pity on me and speaks slowly...and heaven help me I can barely make a reply in Spanish...

And in many ways it isn't the language as much as the culture and idioms... [/*]

NELKIRK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are such a sight for sore eyes!!!

Welcome home!

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by daniel green



I heard on CNN this afternoon--just prior to the news conference starting--that the villagers had thought it was his mother, but that it was more than likely his aunt. [/*]

I'm sure that woman is protected by Mexican LE from any
blame in helping him.

[martha]

Thanks candykisses you or so wise too. I love and and ta with your post.:rose:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by n/t


Oh my. This is hilarious. I'm being lectured by someone telling me not to lecture. Must be a full moon. :eek: [/*]

Awe, don't waste your time n/t, your Nicholas blog sits untouched for weeks. :( JMO.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by daniel green


NELKIRK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are such a sight for sore eyes!!!

Welcome home! [/*]

It is WONDERFUL to see Nelkirk again!

:rose:

[JanDoe]

It sounds like Cesar knew the MC had made no deal with Mexico
for his return and therefore he wanted to make sure he was
turned over to the Sheriff.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by MoonFlwr


Absolutely!

I followed that case closely and Jessie's mother carried herself with that grace from the day Jessie was reported missing, until BC was sentenced.
I was thinking - couldn't the world do with some more people like that!

Weird though, some message board posters were criticising Patty (Jessie's mom) for forgiving Bobby in court! :shrug:

Anyway, back on topic...I am glad that Cesar is in custody and that the truth will (hopefully) come out, now.

(Sorry my response is pages later, it's time difference issues! :) ) [/*]

Hello, Moon.

I did not follow the case but watched that sentencing and thought, wow, wonderful. Wonderful woman and what a great, great mother and grandmother.

It does not surprise me that posters would criticise her. :rolleyes: Because, you know, it was the POSTER's child and grandchild and all that.

[VC2]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


VC, your posts on this forum are outstanding, IMO. Glad you are following the case and weighing in here with us!

:seeya: [/*]

Thanks SS, as i said elsewhere i am keep low stress so am hiding out here and in presidential candidates forum lol. glad we think alike here.

Brown sounded furious at the caller who said no way christina was not complicit. Used LE speak that there was no evidence, but his manner said it all..voice tone etc. "its because the people saying that and the news reports don't have the facts, WE HAVE THE FACTS" lol.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by daniel green


NELKIRK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are such a sight for sore eyes!!!

Welcome home! [/*]
Ditto here !

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by martha
Thanks candykisses you or so wise too. I love and and ta with your post.:rose: [/*]

Very sad all the way around martha. :(

[sunstar]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I can identify with that...spoke Spanish, now I can understand it as long as someone takes pity on me and speaks slowly...and heaven help me I can barely make a reply in Spanish...

And in many ways it isn't the language as much as the culture and idioms... [/*]
Welcome back! :seeya: There would probably be different dialects within Mexico too, like there are accents here in the US of the English language. He probably didn't speak that much Spanish in recent years either.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by JanDoe


I'm sure that woman is protected by Mexican LE from any
blame in helping him. [/*]

Another conspirator.

[nelkirk]

Originally posted by strick10


Thanks for the link dg. Yup, seems like the alleged rape did not result in her preganancy, but, I think CAL is the father. Think they had one last consensual encounter which CAL may have told Maria they couldn't see each other anymore or he told her he would not leave his wife and she reported the alleged rape out of anger to get even not thinking that she could not take back her claim. [/*]

I am kind of undecided on that one...according to the Corps response to the Rep Turner....ML said that she didn't want to have sex with CL (in April) because he was married and had a child.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_5...ted_effort.html

[Jan Powell]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


You're convinced? Even though everything we heard today in the PC indicates otherwise?

I guess this is what I'm just not getting....and not only from you, sorry, I just picked this one post out to respond to.

I listened to that PC today and I got that they are pretty well convinced Christina had nothing at all to do with the murder. Or anything else relating to the murder.

Sure, nothing is ruled out, but I certainly think by now they have their ducks in a row. And no, I don't think anything Cesar says is going to be a bombshell about Christina.

:shrug: [/*]

I can't explain why I'm pretty well convinced other than; the alleged timing of the events that day, (IMO) she would have been enraged with Maria being there and she didn't move herself and her child out. The blood doesn't determine (to me) who did it but the blow that killed her seems over the top for a man to have to do.

I'm not sure anything Cesar says, when he's returned, will be believed whether it's a bombshell or not.

I'll also add I hope I'm wrong, there has been to much loss already.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


It is WONDERFUL to see Nelkirk again!

:rose: [/*]

It is.

Damn if I am not gonna bust out the roses for her.

Second time I have ever done the rose. Once earlier today for Baywench and now.

Nelkirk for you :rose:

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by daniel green


Another conspirator. [/*]

:confused:

[JD81]

Amazing everyone is ignoring the truth about Christina on NG.:D

I think it is very hard to eat crow. JMO

:chicken:

[Oregongal]

SB said the MC is handling the DNA of the baby because of the rape charges and they are handling the murder(as if it's a separate thing).
Wouldn't the baby's paternity go to motive?
Just asking.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I am kind of undecided on that one...according to the Corps response to the Rep Turner....ML said that she didn't want to have sex with CL (in April) because he was married and had a child.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_5...ted_effort.html [/*]


:eek:

That link didn't work. But, WOW.

[Nellie]

Originally posted by Oregongal


IMO, yes he does look a bit broken, but I watched his eyes in the video and they are dead looking. I didn't see the one where someone said they saw tears, but, all I could think was he was dumbfounded he'd been caught and nobody's home behind his eyes. [/*]

I actually saw fear in his eyes.....

I'm still not ready to believe he did this alone....

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by VC2


Thanks SS, as i said elsewhere i am keep low stress so am hiding out here and in presidential candidates forum lol. glad we think alike here.

Brown sounded furious at the caller who said no way christina was not complicit. Used LE speak that there was no evidence, but his manner said it all..voice tone etc. "its because the people saying that and the news reports don't have the facts, WE HAVE THE FACTS" lol. [/*]

Strangely I think they claimed something similar about a raid/search of the sister's house too.

But today revealed otherwise.

I wouldn't count her out and I think Cesar might shed light on what facts they have from Christina.

JMO.

I won't lol about it, but I think we will see this woman for what she really is as depicted by her narcissistic concern for cheating on her. :rolleyes: Didn't mind closing her eyes knowing a deceased woman was buried in her backyard so I don't think there is much depth to her from my POV.
:shrug:

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Well after I posted I read up and realized I wasn't the only one, thank God, thought there was something wrong with my "sensitivity chip" for a sec..

If XTina isn't a suspect he's in Mexico awaiting eventual extradition, whats to stop her from hopping a bus/ plane/ private car/ train w/ the kid and toddling on down to mexico for a visit? [/*]

The MC.;)

[n/t]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Awe, don't waste your time n/t, your Nicholas blog sits untouched for weeks. :( JMO. [/*]

Totally off topic but:

My Nicholas blog? I don't have a blog. :confused:

If you're talking about the Nicholas Francisco Forum here, last time I checked it was still active but what does this have to do with this Maria Lauterbach and the capture of the stone cold murderer who murderered her and her baby, buried and burned them? I'm confused.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Yes! I asked that question earlier, about "seized" her computer. :shrug: And I did think about the word "raid".....IIRC, that came from the JDNews message board...haven't heard it officially! [/*]

:beer: Still searching, even in LE statements, no Raid either, only heresay, friends of a friend.

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by Oregongal
SB said the MC is handling the DNA of the baby because of the rape charges and they are handling the murder(as if it's a separate thing).
Wouldn't the baby's paternity go to motive?
Just asking. [/*]

Does anyone think the MC may prosecute CL for the baby?

[daniel green]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Well after I posted I read up and realized I wasn't the only one, thank God, thought there was something wrong with my "sensitivity chip" for a sec..

snipped[/*]

No, it is just the opposite.

Proof that your sensitivity chip is working just fine!

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Jan Powell


I can't explain why I'm pretty well convinced other than; the alleged timing of the events that day, (IMO) she would have been enraged with Maria being there and she didn't move herself and her child out. The blood doesn't determine (to me) who did it but the blow that killed her seems over the top for a man to have to do.

I'm not sure anything Cesar says, when he's returned, will be believed whether it's a bombshell or not.

I'll also add I hope I'm wrong, there has been to much loss already. [/*]

Thank you for your response, Jan. I respect everyone's opinion. Some I don't understand, but hey I'm just glad he's been caught and this forum is active again, and we'll all be here to here everything that goes on towards a resolution.

:seeya:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


:beer: Still searching, even in LE statements, no Raid either, only heresay, friends of a friend. [/*]

Look upthread just a few posts.

I posted the link for you.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Swarovski
Forgive me for joining in so late, had troubles logging on, haven't been able to catch up yet, but the last few posts seem disturbing. Maybe I am reading it wrong, but are some of you of the mind that he *loved* Maria? Is that what someone does to a loved one, is bury and burn their corpse in their own backyard? What am I missing here? [/*]
He said "I loved her" when he was answering a question after his arrest.

[nelkirk]

Originally posted by Oregongal
SB said the MC is handling the DNA of the baby because of the rape charges and they are handling the murder(as if it's a separate thing).
Wouldn't the baby's paternity go to motive?
Just asking. [/*]

Depends on what they can prove is the motive:

alleged rape
preganacy
whatever

[JD81]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Strangely I think they claimed something similar about a raid/search of the sister's house too.

But today revealed otherwise.

I wouldn't count her out and I think Cesar might shed light on what facts they have from Christina.

JMO.

I won't lol about it, but I think we will see this woman for what she really is as depicted by her narcissistic concern for cheating on her. :rolleyes: Didn't mind closing her eyes knowing a deceased woman was buried in her backyard so I don't think there is much depth to her from my POV.
:shrug: [/*]

LE AND THE DA DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. Do you have some information they don't have?

[sunstar]

Sheriff saying "it is possible" Mrs. CL didn't know Maria was in the backyard and LE is going by what she's said that she didn't know.

[JD81]

Poor SB is over his head again. He is not savvy with the medial. Where is RS?

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by sunstar
Another email (unconfirmed) that CL sent to OCSD and he wanted to surrender to them and make sure military wasn't involved. Sheriff Brown being interviewed now about email he received 3/31 and confirms it addressed what Susan Candiotti just reported. :eek: [/*]

Thanks for this sunstar, I wasn't sure I had heard that right.

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by Oregongal
SB said the MC is handling the DNA of the baby because of the rape charges and they are handling the murder(as if it's a separate thing).
Wouldn't the baby's paternity go to motive?
Just asking. [/*]

I was asking my TV the same thing, when he made that comment :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by sunstar
Sheriff saying "it is possible" Mrs. CL didn't know Maria was in the backyard and LE is going by what she's said that she didn't know. [/*]

And that everything they know leads to that assumption (something like that, I didn't get it verbatim).

Sometimes what is thought to be "impossible" is in fact entirely possible. That's fact.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by JD81


LE AND THE DA DON'T AGREE WITH YOU. Do you have some information they don't have? [/*]

After you supply the link to the idea no charge is needed and a jury can find him guilty for desecrating a body we can talk.

I hope you were listening to SB, he certainly isn't claiming she is innocent and HE IS MORE THAN AWARE of how silly it sounds to most. I can't wait for that transcript to go up.

He is on "at this time" IMO.

She is OFF THE HOOK for this period of time. I perceive that to mean it could all change on a DIME IMO. :cool:

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


*snipped*

She is OFF THE HOOK for this period of time. I perceive that to mean it could all change on a DIME IMO. :cool:

jmo [/*]

Keep hoping, Candy. :D

Crow. Crow. Crow. (subliminal message)

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by sunstar
Another email (unconfirmed) that CL sent to OCSD and he wanted to surrender to them and make sure military wasn't involved. Sheriff Brown being interviewed now about email he received 3/31 and confirms it addressed what Susan Candiotti just reported. :eek: [/*]

Ty Sunstar, I read this last night and could not find link, I think it was Rick Suterland on Greta. No link available. So glad I am not gonzo.

Needed to find a link for daniel green TY

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by JD81
Poor SB is over his head again. He is not savvy with the medial. Where is RS? [/*]

He reports to SB, maybe you should deal with it. :tongue:

Isn't that your advice to others? :eek:

jmo

[baywench]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I can identify with that...spoke Spanish, now I can understand it as long as someone takes pity on me and speaks slowly...and heaven help me I can barely make a reply in Spanish...

And in many ways it isn't the language as much as the culture and idioms... [/*]

Nekirk....hooray!!!!!!!!!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by Nellie


I actually saw fear in his eyes.....

I'm still not ready to believe he did this alone.... [/*]

Hi there friend, I'm not ready to believe that either.
:seeya:

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I am kind of undecided on that one...according to the Corps response to the Rep Turner....ML said that she didn't want to have sex with CL (in April) because he was married and had a child.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_5...ted_effort.html [/*]

:seeya: nelkirk. I posted the actual letter from Lt. General R. S. Kramlich on the links only thread and I can't get your link to open, so I hope you don't mind me posting the pdf link.

Marine Corps Reponse to Congressman Turner's Questions (March 31, 2008) (10 page pdf file)

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by daniel green


Look upthread just a few posts.

I posted the link for you. [/*]

TY and down thread is uncomfirmed CL was turning himself in, swear I saw last night RS. But can't find link anymore. PHEW! Not All Cooko feathers here :D

[AJandTam]

Just curous, and I appologize if this question has been answered, but will Cesar be interviewed in Mexico now by the FBI??? Or do they have to wait til he is brought back to the US.

[nelkirk]

Originally posted by daniel green



:eek:

That link didn't work. But, WOW. [/*]

Try this one:

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

[baywench]

Originally posted by JD81
Poor SB is over his head again. He is not savvy with the medial. Where is RS? [/*]


He is never over his head IMO and being savvy with the media is not in his job description. I love him! jmo

[JanDoe]

could the MC prosecute CL for the baby after Onslow County
is done with him?

if so, he may still face the death penalty.

[MoonFlwr]

lol molly brown 'asking your tv'! :)

:seeya: daniel green.

[Kel65]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Sheriff: Law enforcement eliminated Laurean's resources (Some updates)

The efforts of law enforcement to eliminate fugitive Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean's resources led to his "impoverished state" of living in a tiny wooden cabin and having 10 pesos in his pocket when he was captured in Mexico on Thursday, authorities said.

(SNIP)

Investigators had obtained property that contains Laurean's DNA and were prepared to do a test, but would likely wait now that he is in custody, said Paul Ciccarelli, special agent in charge of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in North and South Carolina.

However, Ciccarelli said if the extradition process drags on - which could take from 30 days to two years, officials said - NCIS is prepared to serve a search warrant through Mexican authorities to get a DNA sample.

(SNIP)

"Lance Cpl. Christina Laurean was advised not to discuss circumstances of the case with anyone other than law enforcement officials," said Lt. Col. Curtis Hill, spokesman for II Marine Expeditionary Force, of which all three involved were assigned.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html [/*]

So she was advised by the military not prohibited. Hmmmm, not what Welch has led people to believe. Got to love lawyers and their weasel words. JMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Swarovski
Are some of you subcribing that it was the wife that was the culprit here, and he is protecting her. Just trying to get the consenses of this board. [/*]

The majority believe that, I think. Not me. I believe LE.

[baywench]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Keep hoping, Candy. :D

Crow. Crow. Crow. (subliminal message) [/*]

Yikes I couldn't help getting that submliminal. I will be eating a ton of crow if she is not charged 'cos I am just convinced you couldn't not know that there was a body buried in your yard. I also would have to apologize to my husband because I am obviously a big nosey nag. I'm really hoping I don't have to do either of these :D

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by baywench



He is never over his head IMO and being savvy with the media is not in his job description. I love him! jmo [/*]

Me too, baywench!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by n/t


Totally off topic but:

My Nicholas blog? I don't have a blog. :confused:

If you're talking about the Nicholas Francisco Forum here, last time I checked it was still active but what does this have to do with this Maria Lauterbach and the capture of the stone cold murderer who murderered her and her baby, buried and burned them? I'm confused. [/*]

Me too!:confused:
Altho, I'm beginning to see some correlations to both cases...LE has apparently known more than they released to the public.
It could be that way for NF case as well.
JMO

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Oh boy that was a victim statement to remember. I had tears rolling down my face. What a woman....."full of grace." Just thinking about her that day and the things she said gives me goosebumps. [/*]

That is the only way to describe it. Full of grace. I cannot think of another word.

What a woman, for real. And what a great mother and grandmother.

When Jessie's father spoke to Cutts and made said don't look at me, I would like to be in a room alone with you--I could understand it, but it really turned me off. Especially given the fact that he did not seem to have much of a relationship with his daughter (?)

And then the mother goes up and begins, " I DO want you to look at me."

And it was the one statement that got through to Cutts, I believe.

I get goosebumps remembering that, too.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Oregongal


Thanks for this sunstar, I wasn't sure I had heard that right. [/*]
You're welcome :) It sure seems now like he was getting tired of being on the run. I can see now too why he didn't want the military involved since it was another Marine he is accused of killing in addition to him going AWOL.

[AJandTam]

CT if it helps any. I cannot stand this Sheriff Brown either.

[VC2]

Flush with payments from well-funded campaigns, the ward leaders and Democratic Party bosses typically spread out the cash in the days before the election, handing $10, $20 and $50 bills to the foot soldiers and loyalists who make up the party's workforce.

SNIP

That sets up a culture clash, pitting a candidate who promises to transform American politics against the realities of a local political system important to his presidential hopes. Pennsylvania holds its primary April 22.

---------------------------------------snip


The field operation "hasn't been about tapping long-standing political machinery," the aide said.

Carol Ann Campbell, a ward leader and Democratic superdelegate who supports Obama, estimated that the amount of street money Obama would need to lay out for election day is $400,000 to $500,000.

"This is a machine city, and ward leaders have to pay their committee people," Campbell said. "Barack Obama's campaign doesn't pay workers, and I guarantee you if they don't put up some money for those street workers, those leaders will most likely take Clinton money. It won't stop him from winning Philadelphia, but he won't come out with the numbers that he needs" to win the state."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,6250467.story

p.s on matthews tonight, they mentioned that Rendell paid 700K plus the day before his election in street money. So IMO hillary will be paying it because her supporters are the machine in PA

[Nellie]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I sure don't know what happened to cause this crime but imo this guy is not cold and unfeeling.

I watched his eyes very closely even noticing how long his eyelashes are and I can honestly say there was much warmth coming from his eyes imo....his eyes were very clear and the brown was soft and illuminating.

imoo [/*]

GentleBreeze, I was struck by the softness of his eyes too. Like you, I think I wanted to see a cold, empty soul. But that's not what I saw. I was surprised looking into his eyes, right down to making note of his long lashes like you. He sure doesn't look like a cold blooded killer, does he? Strange to feel that way, knowing what happened to poor Maria and her baby. He seemed totally petrified to me. And I think he was totally ready to give up. I don't even think he'll fight extradition. I think he's ready to come "home".

I am just not totally convinced that he killed Maria yet.
I think he may have a total different story to tell than Christine.
I am struck by the "I loved her" comment. And it makes me wonder more and more if he was not the one who killed her.
Perhaps Christine found them together and went beserk.

I just don't know......

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
I still expect him to end up in Leavenworth Fed Pen, for life. Legally under the law, this guy is owned by the Us Government right now, not the state of NC. We'll see...............

:shrug:

Wonder how his wife feels about that comment, he loved Maria?? [/*]
Oh I'm wondering that too! The comment was just repeated on Nancy's show and the question he was answering was "did you kill Maria" so it sure can't be confused with him saying he loves his wife.

[bkwits]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
I am going to say this then I am going to run like a :chicken: because its not what alot of people want to hear.

My DD was over all day today and we watched a part of the news that had video of him, you have all seen it, the close up, the tattoos, and his big eyes blinking.

My daughter, who knows very very little about this case because she does not share my enthusiasm for news...said wow, hes a nice looking guy!

I am so busy disliking him, I stopped and looked. Why did I feel kind of sorry for him for a sec? Poster above is right- he sure doesn't look or act like a stone cold killer. His wife, however....emailing him, keeping a diary of their communications (for CYA or just because shes not too bright?) all the while knowing the whole country is on the lookout for him...am sure police have asked her many many times do you know where he is do you have any communications with him- and she must have said NO...which is a lie...which IMO is one of many from her lips.

I am/was a little surprised at myself for the fleeting feeling of sympathy for him... has anyone else felt that, even for a second?
I have NO SYMPATHY for the crime, and I know bad guys don;'t always look like bad guys, but he looks like a romeo who follows the orders of his spouse very well. JMO
c ya [/*]



My parents thought Scott Peterson was innocent even during the trial when everthing had come out. I pinned my mom down as to why she thought he was innocent with all the evidence against him. He was such a kind looking young fellow, and the crime was just so cruel. I was visiting them during the trial and they tried to tell me he was crying. I told them I didn't see any tears.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2


*snipped*

[/*]

Oooopsie, wrong forum VC. :D

[baywench]

Originally posted by VC2
Flush with payments from well-funded campaigns, the ward leaders and Democratic Party bosses typically spread out the cash in the days before the election, handing $10, $20 and $50 bills to the foot soldiers and loyalists who make up the party's workforce.

SNIP

That sets up a culture clash, pitting a candidate who promises to transform American politics against the realities of a local political system important to his presidential hopes. Pennsylvania holds its primary April 22.

---------------------------------------snip


The field operation "hasn't been about tapping long-standing political machinery," the aide said.

Carol Ann Campbell, a ward leader and Democratic superdelegate who supports Obama, estimated that the amount of street money Obama would need to lay out for election day is $400,000 to $500,000.

"This is a machine city, and ward leaders have to pay their committee people," Campbell said. "Barack Obama's campaign doesn't pay workers, and I guarantee you if they don't put up some money for those street workers, those leaders will most likely take Clinton money. It won't stop him from winning Philadelphia, but he won't come out with the numbers that he needs" to win the state."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,6250467.story

p.s on matthews tonight, they mentioned that Rendell paid 700K plus the day before his election in street money. So IMO hillary will be paying it because her supporters are the machine in PA [/*]

WTH? What does this have to do with anything??? Were we just hijacked by the politics thread???

[daniel green]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Try this one:

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf [/*]

OMG! This is the marine's reply to that windbag congressman!!!!

Thank you!!!!!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Depends on what they can prove is the motive:

alleged rape
preganacy
whatever [/*]

So true, that's what I thought too.
BTW, welcome back.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by baywench


WTH? What does this have to do with anything??? Were we just hijacked by the politics thread??? [/*]

I think VC made a mistake, nothing more. :(

[daniel green]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
I still expect him to end up in Leavenworth Fed Pen, for life. Legally under the law, this guy is owned by the Us Government right now, not the state of NC. We'll see...............

:shrug:

Wonder how his wife feels about that comment, he loved Maria?? [/*]

I hope you email the feds and tell them about this.

[baywench]

Originally posted by daniel green


OMG! This is the marine's reply to that windbag congressman!!!!

Thank you!!!!! [/*]

Crap....Hilton netwok is blocking it. Let me know what it says...PLEEEZZZE.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by n/t



What are you basing your assumptions on? Curious. Because of his looks? Was it you who said earlier something about his eyes? His eyes don't show a stone cold murderer? [/*]

Yes, I do not find his eyes to be cold and hard. Some of the other posters said they did...and some agreed with me but so what?.... we are all entitled to our own perceptions, aren't we or are we?

I have always stated, n/t, that I think this was a crime of passion not a premeditated, methodical one committed by an unfeeling stone cold killer. :shrug:

imoo

[VC2]

whoops i posted this in politics by mistake, got my two windows mixed up (also posted my politics post in here :o )

well now SB says its possible she knew nothing but was not as strong about it.

Which actually does not surprise me, i was going to say in my list from the PC earlier today that out of all 3, SB was the least strong about christina, RS and Hudson were the ones who stepped up to the plate for her. To be honest as much as i like sb, i trust rs and hudson more as far as the investigation goes because they are the ones who dealt with her.

imo

[baywench]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I think VC made a mistake, nothing more. :( [/*]


I was being silly...in a paranoid kind of way.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Try this one:

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf [/*]

Just as we'd thought.

ML knew CL was married and had a child.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by JD81
Poor SB is over his head again. He is not savvy with the medial. Where is RS? [/*]

He's home with his baby girl and wife. It's been a long night for him I'm sure.
:)

[Jan Powell]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Ty Sunstar, I read this last night and could not find link, I think it was Rick Suterland on Greta. No link available. So glad I am not gonzo.

Needed to find a link for daniel green TY [/*]

I heard this last night and wondered what the heck she meant, now I know:


KING: Couple other quick things, was there a manhunt for him?

CANDIOTTI: .....However, they have been working closely with Mexican authorities to try to track down where he would have been hiding.

However, we have learned very recently that he, Laurean, had been making some contacts to try to come back to the United States. Obviously, that did not occur. But authorities happened to cut off his resources so that he would not be able to get on much longer in Mexico. Keeping in mind, it's not known if he was working down there, if someone was hiding him, or if he was hiding on his own.

[n/t]

Originally posted by Swarovski


*THUD* [/*]

I'll join you.

[daniel green]

Thanks so much, Nelkirk!

So that is a big no to the alpahbetical thing, too.

Still reading.

[n/t]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Yes, I do not find his eyes to be cold and hard. Some of the other posters said they did...and some agreed with me but so what?.... we are all entitled to our own perceptions, aren't we or are we?

I have always stated, n/t, that I think this was a crime of passion not a premeditated, methodical one committed by an unfeeling stone cold killer. :shrug:

imoo [/*]

ok. Thanks for the reply.

[Kel65]

Originally posted by JD81
Poor SB is over his head again. He is not savvy with the medial. Where is RS? [/*]

Hopefully enjoying some deserved time with his family. For goodness sake his wife had a baby today.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by sweetcharlotte


Hi, Candy........keep the faith! :seeya: [/*]

Hi Charlotte :seeya: . I just can't believe it myself and I have tried to but I think I would find it easier to eat the crow if you are cooking. ;)

JMO and {{{{{Charlotte}}}}}

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
Yep they are starting to report this on cnn too; he turned himself in, there is an unconfirmed report that he emailed the sheriff....and said he didnt want the military to be involved in any way with his surrender. Yet, he was found stumbled onto actually on a boarder patrol that had to do with kidnappings not related to this case at all.......He didnt surrender as far as I can see :shrug: [/*]

TY Cat, need a better filing system. Dang I knew I had a lead...
lost it. Appreciate your input.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by baywench


Crap....Hilton netwok is blocking it. Let me know what it says...PLEEEZZZE. [/*]

10 pages of a .pdf file. Don't think I can handle it right now. Will save it though.

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Kel65


Hopefully enjoying some deserved time with his family. For goodness sake his wife had a baby today. [/*]



Wasn't the baby born yesterday?

[flipflop]

Originally posted by Swarovski


*THUD* [/*]

I am thudding with you.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by AJandTam
Just curous, and I appologize if this question has been answered, but will Cesar be interviewed in Mexico now by the FBI??? Or do they have to wait til he is brought back to the US. [/*]

I'm not sure Tam, I know they were there as part of the 'capture', as well as the Federal Marshall and NCIS. I've only heard he's being interviewed by the Mexican LE in Mexico City right now.
I would think they will wait to see if he waives extradition. If he doesn't, they may question/interview him there in Mexico City, if he does, they may just have to wait until he's back in US. But, of course that is just my thoughts and opinion.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2
whoops i posted this in politics by mistake, got my two windows mixed up (also posted my politics post in here :o )

well now SB says its possible she knew nothing but was not as strong about it.

Which actually does not surprise me, i was going to say in my list from the PC earlier today that out of all 3, SB was the least strong about christina, RS and Hudson were the ones who stepped up to the plate for her. To be honest as much as i like sb, i trust rs and hudson more as far as the investigation goes because they are the ones who dealt with her.

imo [/*]

Good point.

[baywench]

Originally posted by Swarovski


Do you really think if he had this passionate love for Maria, that to protect his wife he would subject himself to such deprivation for so many months? Truly, I am open to debate on this. [/*]

Perhaps his child?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by daniel green


Just as we'd thought.

ML knew CL was married and had a child. [/*]

Yes! I knew it, I knew it.

You're reading faster than me. Don't think I can handle going through that tonight.

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by n/t


I'll join you. [/*]


Me too! I saw it coming though after the "I loved her" comment. Looking for sympathy and he's getting it already judging by some posts here. His lawyers will be thrilled.

:read:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


10 pages of a .pdf file. Don't think I can handle it right now. Will save it though. [/*]

I am trying to copy some and post and cannot seem to be able to do it.

Not sure why. It always works.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Yes! I knew it, I knew it.

You're reading faster than me. Don't think I can handle going through that tonight. [/*]

So, ****** was right?

Oh, my. I guess I am not supposed to type that name. It bleeped it out. Sorry, I did not know. Began with a J

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Yes! I knew it, I knew it.

You're reading faster than me. Don't think I can handle going through that tonight. [/*]

I am not sure I can slog through it tonight after reading court orders all day.

Was just kind of spot reading.

But yep!

You knew it.

And there it is, confirmation by the marines that ML told THEM that she did not want to have sex with CL because he was married and had a child.

[baywench]

Originally posted by daniel green


I am not sure I can slog through it tonight after reading court orders all day.

Was just kind of spot reading.

But yep!

You knew it.

And there it is, confirmation by the marines that ML told THEM that she did not want to have sex with CL because he was married and had a child. [/*]

I knew it I just knew it!!!!

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
I still expect him to end up in Leavenworth Fed Pen, for life. Legally under the law, this guy is owned by the Us Government right now, not the state of NC. We'll see...............

:shrug:

Wonder how his wife feels about that comment, he loved Maria?? [/*]

NC may have agreed to LWOP, but Federal charges may pend. He is indeed owned by the US Gvmt. They may have the right to prosecute, he could be looking at leavenworth, disertion, rape, etc. after civil is done, imo

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by Swarovski


Do you really think if he had this passionate love for Maria, that to protect his wife he would subject himself to such deprivation for so many months? Truly, I am open to debate on this. [/*]

Nope, not for 1 minute actually. If his wife is a murderer why would he want her to be the one raising his daughter? I love my husband dearly but if he murdered someone there is no chance in hell I would go on the run giving the appearance I am a murderer so my murderering husband could raise our children.

That makes zero sense.:shrug:

[hinman]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


NC may have agreed to LWOP, but Federal charges may pend. He is indeed owned by the US Gvmt. They may have the right to prosecute, he could be looking at leavenworth, disertion, rape, etc. after civil is done, imo [/*]I can't wait to see what the Marine Corp does. I have wondered how they will charge him.

I think it will be quite interresting. I am not to worried about CL ever seeing the light of day again.

[baywench]

Originally posted by AJandTam


I hear ya Cat. I think if this case had been left up to him. We'd of never gotten far. Thank god for all of the other agencies involved. [/*]

Hey Tam....I think he's a good old fashioned Sheriff that does not not deal well with the media. I hope that camera presence never becomes a prerequsite for LE. IMO

[Nellie]

Well, crap guys, I didn't say I felt sorry for him! I just said I was surprised that I didn't think he looked cold and empty and that I'm still not so sure about the wife. But one thing I do believe is that he helped/did bury Maria, so evidently he was cold and inhumane and I'm surprised at my own reaction of seeing him on tv. I'm not totally convinced that he killed her yet....I gotta hear more. But yeah, you certainly don't bury someone "you love" like that....even if you ddin't kill them yourself! But, the observation about his eyes was not to say he is innocent or that I feel sorry for him. I am not ready to call him a cold blooded killer just yet based on a handwritten note and body in his backyard. Maria's body was also in Christina's backyard. For all I know, Christina may have written that note. I want to hear more and see more of the evidence to determine who killed her, so I'm not ready to convict him just yet. But, believe me, I don't have sympathy for murderers! Nor rapists! He just wasn't as "cold looking" as I expected him to be....that's all.

[hinman]

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom


Nope, not for 1 minute actually. If his wife is a murderer why would he want her to be the one raising his daughter? I love my husband dearly but if he murdered someone there is no chance in hell I would go on the run giving the appearance I am a murderer so my murderering husband could raise our children.

That makes zero sense.:shrug: [/*]I have to agree. I don't see him taking the blame for everything to let Christina stay and raise the baby.

Not saying it isn't possible but I think she would be behind bars. It is pretty hard to out smart the FBI and the LE and the military.

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by hinman
I can't wait to see what the Marine Corp does. I have wondered how they will charge him.

I think it will be quite interresting. I am not to worried about CL ever seeing the light of day again. [/*]


It appears CL doesn't want the Marines to get a hold of him. He apparently feels they would railroad him. :D

[daniel green]

Is anyone able to copy and paste some of that pdf file of the marine's response?

I cannot seem to be able to do it tonight.

[baywench]

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom



It appears CL doesn't want the Marines to get a hold of him. He apparently feels they would railroad him. :D [/*]

Or shoot him. :cool:

[sunstar]

O/T but if anyone's interested, Drew P. is on Larry King tonight. :D

[hinman]

Originally posted by Nellie
Well, crap guys, I didn't say I felt sorry for him! I just said I was surprised that I didn't think he looked cold and empty and that I'm still not so sure about the wife. But one thing I do believe is that he helped/did bury Maria, so evidently he was cold and inhumane and I'm surprised at my own reaction of seeing him on tv. I'm not totally convinced that he killed her yet....I gotta hear more. But yeah, you certainly don't bury someone "you love" like that....even if you ddin't kill them yourself! But, the observation about his eyes was not to say he is innocent or that I feel sorry for him. I am not ready to call him a cold blooded killer just yet based on a handwritten note and body in his backyard. Maria's body was also in Christina's backyard. For all I know, Christina may have written that note. I want to hear more and see more of the evidence to determine who killed her, so I'm not ready to convict him just yet. But, believe me, I don't have sympathy for murderers! Nor rapists! He just wasn't as "cold looking" as I expected him to be....that's all. [/*]I agree Nellie. I also don't think his looks are scary. Not saying a killer has a certain look but even before he was caught he had a look to him kinda a look of niceness.

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by baywench


Or shoot him. :cool: [/*]


:lol:

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by sunstar
O/T but if anyone's interested, Drew P. is on Larry King tonight. :D [/*]


Is he behind bars yet? LMAO Thats the interview I am waiting for.:biggrin:

[Janz]

Originally posted by baywench


Or shoot him. :cool: [/*]

I bet many of the Marines would love to use just thier bare hands on that one!!

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


I think it's quite possible he loved her. Why not? People have murdered loved ones, unfortunately, from the beginning of time. There is no hard and fast rule that if you murder someone that means you hate them. How is saying he loved her going to benefit him in any way? Truthfully, I see a confession from him in the future. And I said that from the get-go in this case. I think the murder happened when he "snapped" for whatever reason we don't know as yet. Heat of the moment. All IMO. [/*]

I don't understand why that is a difficult concept.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by Nellie


GentleBreeze, I was struck by the softness of his eyes too. Like you, I think I wanted to see a cold, empty soul. But that's not what I saw. I was surprised looking into his eyes, right down to making note of his long lashes like you. He sure doesn't look like a cold blooded killer, does he? Strange to feel that way, knowing what happened to poor Maria and her baby. He seemed totally petrified to me. And I think he was totally ready to give up. I don't even think he'll fight extradition. I think he's ready to come "home".

I am just not totally convinced that he killed Maria yet.
I think he may have a total different story to tell than Christine.
I am struck by the "I loved her" comment. And it makes me wonder more and more if he was not the one who killed her.
Perhaps Christine found them together and went beserk.

I just don't know...... [/*]

Ooh I felt the same, but, can you judge a book by its cover? Horrendous crime, Christina out of the mix according to LE, is there another accomplice? If he loved her...... just why put her in the ground of your own back yard, last place LE would look, and then run to mx. Just out of my realm of comprehension. Who knows what anyone of us would do in a situation, killing someone is not on my agenda. If I were in this situation, I would have to confess. All these months of pain for all involved, LE smoked him out maybe LWOP is better than running forever. Not so smart IMO

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Janz


I bet many of the Marines would love to use just thier bare hands on that one!! [/*]

I don't believe that.

I believe that our marines are law abiding.

[Sherlocksmom]

Originally posted by Janz


I bet many of the Marines would love to use just thier bare hands on that one!! [/*]


Judging by the comments I have read on various MC forums I think you're right. They don't think too highly of him thats for sure.:D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by hinman
I have to agree. I don't see him taking the blame for everything to let Christina stay and raise the baby.

Not saying it isn't possible but I think she would be behind bars. It is pretty hard to out smart the FBI and the LE and the military. [/*]
He cheated on her with Maria, is now saying he loved Maria, but is willing to take full blame for Maria's murder just to spare his wife? I don't think so! He may have fled to Mexico to "avoid the charges" like he told his buddies he'd do re: the rape charge, but it seems now he was ready to surrender.

[Janz]

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom



Judging by the comments I have read on various MC forums I think you're right. They don't think too highly of him thats for sure.:D [/*]

Yep, been reading those forums.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom



Is he behind bars yet? LMAO Thats the interview I am waiting for.:biggrin: [/*]
Not yet and thankfully or the board here might crash if both cases had an arrest the same day! :D

[hinman]

Originally posted by sunstar

He cheated on her with Maria, is now saying he loved Maria, but is willing to take full blame for Maria's murder just to spare his wife? I don't think so! He may have fled to Mexico to "avoid the charges" like he told his buddies he'd do re: the rape charge, but it seems now he was ready to surrender. [/*]Good way to put it sunstar. I agree I don't think so.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by Nellie
He just wasn't as "cold looking" as I expected him to be....that's all. [/*]

SNIPPED.

He is a good looking guy. I have always thought that. What makes me think he is a cold blooded killer is in his actions. He beat her in the head until she died. THEN he slits her throat to "suggest" she committed suicide. How gross is that? Really? Taking a knife and slitting the throat of someone you supposedly love, after they are dead. Not cradling her head screaming WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!!(maybe he did but I don't think so) During this time the heartbeat of your baby slowing to a stop.

I haven't even mentioned the repulsive part about digging a grave and burying her and burning her body. Lets leave that alone for a min.

What does he do then???? He tries to steal from her bank account. That just isn't love to me. That is cold as ice.

ETA I forgot to say my opinion

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by sunstar
O/T but if anyone's interested, Drew P. is on Larry King tonight. :D [/*]

Got it on now, doesn't look like it's going to be any more than more of the same from him and his 'lovely' lawyer.
barf

[Janz]

Originally posted by AnnieBean



ITA, she's in it to her eyeballs, possibly further....as I have said, I want to look at her eyes in the media glare, want to see HER reaction....enough of the printed word, pictures are worth a thousand of them....
:rolleyes: if you want to but you know if they said go to this link for a pic of XTina, (unblurred) the site would crash from all the clicks...jus sayin...

AB [/*]

I have never been able to understand, in this day and age, Why no pictures of Christina?? :shrug:

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by Jan Powell


I heard this last night and wondered what the heck she meant, now I know:


KING: Couple other quick things, was there a manhunt for him?

CANDIOTTI: .....However, they have been working closely with Mexican authorities to try to track down where he would have been hiding.

However, we have learned very recently that he, Laurean, had been making some contacts to try to come back to the United States. Obviously, that did not occur. But authorities happened to cut off his resources so that he would not be able to get on much longer in Mexico. Keeping in mind, it's not known if he was working down there, if someone was hiding him, or if he was hiding on his own. [/*]

TY Jan, knew I saw it He was turning himself in, just not to any welcoming home by MC. hammer jmp

[baywench]

Originally posted by AnnieBean



ITA, she's in it to her eyeballs, possibly further....as I have said, I want to look at her eyes in the media glare, want to see HER reaction....enough of the printed word, pictures are worth a thousand of them....
:rolleyes: if you want to but you know if they said go to this link for a pic of XTina, (unblurred) the site would crash from all the clicks...jus sayin...

AB [/*]

Me too AB. She has really been shielded by the limelight. Bring her out. JMO

[sunstar]

Originally posted by hinman
Good way to put it sunstar. I agree I don't think so. [/*]
With his comments "I loved her" and "proof" ~ I really am curious now what his defense might be when he goes to trial. He did after all leave a note that said Maria slit her own throat. :shrug:

[flipflop]

Originally posted by sunstar

With his comments "I loved her" and "proof" ~ I really am curious now what his defense might be when he goes to trial. He did after all leave a note that said Maria slit her own throat. :shrug: [/*]

But they have already said the cut on her throat was done after she was dead. So, that won't work.

[Nellie]

Originally posted by flipflop


SNIPPED.

He is a good looking guy. I have always thought that. What makes me think he is a cold blooded killer is in his actions. He beat her in the head until she died. THEN he slits her throat to "suggest" she committed suicide. How gross is that? Really? Taking a knife and slitting the throat of someone you supposedly love, after they are dead. Not cradling her head screaming WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!!(maybe he did but I don't think so) During this time the heartbeat of your baby slowing to a stop.

I haven't even mentioned the repulsive part about digging a grave and burying her and burning her body. Lets leave that alone for a min.

What does he do then???? He tries to steal from her bank account. That just isn't love to me. That is cold as ice.

ETA I forgot to say my opinion [/*]

Yep, if it went down the way you described it...he's a cold blooded killer, no matter how he looks! The only thing I'm pretty sure of now is that he buried her and ran off to Mexico...which is pretty cold blooded in itself. I'm just waiting to hear what he confesses to. I still can't see how Christine can be so innocent.

Please don't anyone think I'm feeling sorry for him.
If you know me from other boards, you know I'm not a "bleeding heart" toward the guilty.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by flipflop


But they have already said the cut on her throat was done after she was dead. So, that won't work. [/*]

There is wiggle room in that statement flip, if you look at the wording it is not a fact IMO. :o

[Nellie]

Originally posted by sunstar

With his comments "I loved her" and "proof" ~ I really am curious now what his defense might be when he goes to trial. He did after all leave a note that said Maria slit her own throat. :shrug: [/*]

Someone left a note. Was it ever verified to be his handwriting?

[daniel green]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I am kind of undecided on that one...according to the Corps response to the Rep Turner....ML said that she didn't want to have sex with CL (in April) because he was married and had a child.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_5...ted_effort.html [/*]

Baywench--this was the first link nelkirk posted for the marine's respose to congressman windbag.

I cannot get that pg, but it must be on jdnews?

I have not had luck copying and pasting the pdf letter for you.

[hinman]

Originally posted by flipflop


But they have already said the cut on her throat was done after she was dead. So, that won't work. [/*]I would like to know how that is not desecration of a body, since it was post mortem.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by hinman
I can't wait to see what the Marine Corp does. I have wondered how they will charge him.

I think it will be quite interresting. I am not to worried about CL ever seeing the light of day again. [/*]

My understanding is after Civil, NC gets through with him, the MC, or federal have the right to charge DP. Please don't quote, they are their own entity. He is a deserter, charged with rape, married and Mary Lauerbach and congress is a wolf at the door.
Should be interesting. Not to mention how he has killed one of their one Semper FI.

Maria and Gabriel RIP, justice will be served :rose:

[flipflop]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


There is wiggle room in that statement flip, if you look at the wording it is not a fact IMO. :o [/*]

Uh oh, what am I missing? I thought the autopsy said the cut on her throat was made after she was dead. Am I wrong? Sorry, if I am.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by flipflop


But they have already said the cut on her throat was done after she was dead. So, that won't work. [/*]
I know what the ME said, but when he goes to trial doesn't he pretty much have to stick with that since he's supposedly written it down on a note he left behind? He's stuck with that and can't say that Mrs. CL did it.

[baywench]

Originally posted by daniel green


Baywench--this was the first link nelkirk posted for the marine's respose to congressman windbag.

I cannot get that pg, but it must be on jdnews?

I have not had luck copying and pasting the pdf letter for you. [/*]

Thanks for trying....I really appreciate it. How in the world can my employer put all these firewalls and block my personal....but most valuable...business?

[Jan Powell]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


TY Jan, knew I saw it He was turning himself in, just not to any welcoming home by MC. hammer jmp [/*]

I posted it last night with a question mark after it because I wasn't sure I was hearing her right. I had to get the transcript to believe it because all of this was so out of the blue to me. (I'm one of the few that thought he would fight extradition for as long as he could.)

[hinman]

Originally posted by Jan Powell


I posted it last night with a question mark after it because I wasn't sure I was hearing her right. I had to get the transcript to believe it because all of this was so out of the blue to me. (I'm one of the few that thought he would fight extradition for as long as he could.) [/*]Hi Jan I really thought he would fight it to. Can't believe he is not going to.

Complete shock.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by sunstar

I know what the ME said, but when he goes to trial doesn't he pretty much have to stick with that since he's supposedly written it down on a note he left behind? He's stuck with that and can't say that Mrs. CL did it. [/*]

Ok, I see what you are saying. Well, he could say I ....well. Yeah, I see what you are saying now. He can say, "I lied". But how is that going to look. But he has to doesn't he? I mean if the autopsy says so.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Nellie


Someone left a note. Was it ever verified to be his handwriting? [/*]
I haven't heard anyone from LE say he didn't write it. :shrug:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by flipflop


Uh oh, what am I missing? I thought the autopsy said the cut on her throat was made after she was dead. Am I wrong? Sorry, if I am. [/*]

I'm going to look at the autopsy report again, but I do remember there being an iffy way to the wording. JMO BRB.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by flipflop


But they have already said the cut on her throat was done after she was dead. So, that won't work. [/*]

We really don't know that FF.

Even the ME is not sure. He stated it "MAY HAVE" been after death not that it was for certain done after death.

imoo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by sunstar
Sheriff saying "it is possible" Mrs. CL didn't know Maria was in the backyard and LE is going by what she's said that she didn't know. [/*]

"LE is going by what she's said that she didn't know"

Alrighty then, that settles it!

[flipflop]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


I'm going to look at the autopsy report again, but I do remember there being an iffy way to the wording. JMO BRB. [/*]

OH! Lmao. I thought you meant with my wording. I have been reading and rereading my post to figure out what I said wrong. :punch: to me

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by bkwits




Wasn't the baby born yesterday? [/*]
Yep!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by flipflop


Ok, I see what you are saying. Well, he could say I ....well. Yeah, I see what you are saying now. He can say, "I lied". But how is that going to look. But he has to doesn't he? I mean if the autopsy says so. [/*]
He can always have experts argue the ME's autopsy findings are wrong, like Spector did during his trial with his defense that Lana killed herself. I'm not saying it's so but just trying to think ahead what he'll do! :)

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by flipflop


OH! Lmao. I thought you meant with my wording. I have been reading and rereading my post to figure out what I said wrong. :punch: to me [/*]

Oh no, but here is the wording...

The incised wound to the neck appears to be real (not an
artefact of charring) but may have occurred after death.

http://www.jdnews.com/attachments/jxqt6p-lauterbachautopsy1.pdf

I have issues with leaving something like that open flip. JMO tho. :(

[sunstar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


"LE is going by what she's said that she didn't know"

Alrighty then, that settles it! [/*]
Just like I'm listening to Drew P. telling Larry King his wife ran off. End of case! :D

[JD81]

I didn't find anything in the marine responses to the Congressman Maria was facing a discharge. Did anyone else? There may be some more crow eating coming up.:D

jmo:chicken:

Off to read it again.

[Jan Powell]

Originally posted by hinman
Hi Jan I really thought he would fight it to. Can't believe he is not going to.

Complete shock. [/*]

I've only heard one reporter actually say the words (CNN) has it been said by anyone from LE or other media that you've heard?

But it was CNN reporting at 8:30 last night that he had been trying to work a deal to turn himself in, maybe CNN knows something on this too.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by baywench


Thanks for trying....I really appreciate it. How in the world can my employer put all these firewalls and block my personal....but most valuable...business? [/*]

HORRIBLE.

I will boycott Hilton from now on!

I will try tomorrow or maybe Nuttin or Nel or CK can get it copied before then.

My brain is so fried I have not even read the whole thing myself but from what I did read it was :eek:

Seems the universe (or at least my computer) is telling me to call it a week and just to try to get through some bad TV (Canterbury Law is being tivo'd as we speak).

Hope you have a good evening and that I'll see you around tomorrow.

Everyone else--good night!

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by flipflop


SNIPPED.

He is a good looking guy. I have always thought that. What makes me think he is a cold blooded killer is in his actions. He beat her in the head until she died. THEN he slits her throat to "suggest" she committed suicide. How gross is that? Really? Taking a knife and slitting the throat of someone you supposedly love, after they are dead. Not cradling her head screaming WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!!(maybe he did but I don't think so) During this time the heartbeat of your baby slowing to a stop.

I haven't even mentioned the repulsive part about digging a grave and burying her and burning her body. Lets leave that alone for a min.

What does he do then???? He tries to steal from her bank account. That just isn't love to me. That is cold as ice.

ETA I forgot to say my opinion [/*]

He's had 3 mos. to think about this. That comment...I loved her...to me says one thing. He is going to point the finger at someone else. And ran because he thought he would be the one accused/railroaded.
JMO

[hinman]

Originally posted by Jan Powell


I've only heard one reporter actually say the words (CNN) has it been said by anyone from LE or other media that you've heard?

But it was CNN reporting at 8:30 last night that he had been trying to work a deal to turn himself in, maybe CNN knows something on this too. [/*]I haven't been home all day so I have not heard it. I just read it on the board.

Sorry.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


We really don't know that FF.

Even the ME is not sure. He stated it "MAY HAVE" been after death not that it was for certain done after death.

imoo [/*]

Ok. I didn't know it was a "may have". I thought it was "is". I forget there can be differing ME opinions. I'm still a little new at all this. :D

[flipflop]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Oh no, but here is the wording...

The incised wound to the neck appears to be real (not an
artefact of charring) but may have occurred after death.

http://www.jdnews.com/attachments/jxqt6p-lauterbachautopsy1.pdf

I have issues with leaving something like that open flip. JMO tho. :( [/*]

Yeah, that word "may" I'm not liking.

[baywench]

Originally posted by daniel green


HORRIBLE.

I will boycott Hilton from now on!

I will try tomorrow or maybe Nuttin or Nel or CK can get it copied before then.

My brain is so fried I have not even read the whole thing myself but from what I did read it was :eek:

Seems the universe (or at least my computer) is telling me to call it a week and just to try to get through some bad TV (Canterbury Law is being tivo'd as we speak).

Hope you have a good evening and that I'll see you around tomorrow.

Everyone else--good night! [/*]

:seeya:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Nellie
Well, crap guys, I didn't say I felt sorry for him! I just said I was surprised that I didn't think he looked cold and empty and that I'm still not so sure about the wife. But one thing I do believe is that he helped/did bury Maria, so evidently he was cold and inhumane and I'm surprised at my own reaction of seeing him on tv. I'm not totally convinced that he killed her yet....I gotta hear more. But yeah, you certainly don't bury someone "you love" like that....even if you didn't kill them yourself! But, the observation about his eyes was not to say he is innocent or that I feel sorry for him. I am not ready to call him a cold blooded killer just yet based on a handwritten note and body in his backyard. Maria's body was also in Christina's backyard. For all I know, Christina may have written that note. I want to hear more and see more of the evidence to determine who killed her, so I'm not ready to convict him just yet. But, believe me, I don't have sympathy for murderers! Nor rapists! He just wasn't as "cold looking" as I expected him to be....that's all. [/*]

Hi Nellie! Great to see you over here.

Well I am being heckled too for my perception so I guess that is just the way it goes. lol But I am just not going to lie and say I thought him to be some cold, dark, brooding, cold blooded killer when I saw him on tv last night. I was shocked that his eyes seem to emit warmth and emotions but that is what I saw and everyone is entitled to their own perceptions ....so I stand by mine.

But I have never thought this murder happened in a methodical way by someone cold and unfeeling. I do believe that what triggered this had to do with too much feelings of pent up emotions and not done by some cold blooded killer. The aftermath was done in chaos and panic imo that is why it was so disorganized and nonsensical.

I certainly want to hear the evidence in this case that they say they have against him until that time Christina is still very much in play as far as I am concern.

Even DA Hudson cautioned the public about saying Laurean was a rapist when he had not even been charged with that and it certainly hadn't been tried and tested in a court of law and I don't think it would have ever been proven. He even used the Duke LaCrosse case as an example. There were just too many inconsistencies. I think Maria got herself boxed into a corner and knew she was having sex with a guy that out ranked her and that she knew was married with a child. I don't think she would have ever even reported it if it hadn't been for Mary pressuring her but that is JMO.

imoo:seeya:

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


Nah, think about it, she couldn't be out in her uniform recruiting, she would have to have to have her nameplate if on official recruiting thing, right? I think her last name would attract much attention....especially in her neck of the woods. I'm betting she was in some back room out of public view filing reports or something... [/*]

AB, I went happily yelling about my home last night and e mailing all that TG Laurean has been put into custody! No one seemed concerned, even this am, I mentioned to our workers, Laurean is in custody, they all looked at me Like "Whatever". Oh yeah that MC dude who killed his girlfriend. So who would really pay attention? Just asking. We in the know on message boards who care? I think if it does not effect you or your immediate domicile, town or commute to work, Who Cares? So they shift Christina out to a recruiting center, half of these kids according to John Kerry, if they don't have a life, go to college, they end up in Iraq.
They are no where aware of daily news or murder. imo
Ranting sorry for O/T

[flipflop]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


whoa, wait..are you talking about her neck slitting? Because ME did say that was post-mortem. no i am not linkin', too tired.
but beleive me I have learned a couple a things sitting here on my tush all winter...thats one of them and we have had many discussions about that here in the past...jmo and fyi

:seeya:
AB [/*]

Ok. Lets take the whole "slit throat" out of the equation. The rest of his actions are the reason I feel he is a cold blooded killer.

I just will not buy he loved her. I can't. If he loved her and it was a crime of passion....you wouldn't burn their body. You wouldn't try and steal from them. And you would try and save your unborn "love" child. Wouldn't you? If you "loved" someone?

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Oregongal


He's had 3 mos. to think about this. That comment...I loved her...to me says one thing. He is going to point the finger at someone else. And ran because he thought he would be the one accused/railroaded.
JMO [/*]

Well that wouldn't even take much smarts on his part imo. Whether he did this or not ...........he was going to be the one they blamed.

imoo

[baywench]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Hi Nellie! Great to see you over here.

Well I am being heckled too for my perception so I guess that is just the way it goes. lol But I am just not going to lie and say I thought him to be some cold, dark, brooding, cold blooded killer when I saw him on tv last night. I was shocked that his eyes seem to emit warmth and emotions but that is what I saw and everyone is entitled to their own perceptions ....so I stand by mine.

But I have never thought this murder happened in a methodical way by someone cold and unfeeling. I do believe that what triggered this had to do with too much feelings of pent up emotions and not done by some cold blooded killer. The aftermath was done in chaos and panic imo that is why it was so disorganized and nonsensical.

I certainly want to hear the evidence in this case that they say they have against him until that time Christina is still very much in play as far as I am concern.

Even DA Hudson cautioned the public about saying Laurean was a rapist when he had not even been charged with that and it certainly hadn't been tried and tested in a court of law and I don't think it would have ever been proven. He even used the Duke LaCrosse case as an example. There were just too many inconsistencies. I think Maria got herself boxed into a corner and knew she was having sex with a guy that out ranked her and that she knew was married with a child. I don't think she would have ever even reported it if it hadn't been for Mary pressuring her but that is JMO.

imoo:seeya: [/*]

So true GB...I think she was really mad at him when she spoke with her mother. Obviously she had some disfunctional relationships to say the least. I feel she was testing the waters with her mother about the whole relationship with CSL. I too did not think he looked like a cold blooded killer but the video from hardware store makes me take pause. I know you and I don't agree on Christina but a passion murder (and what is more passionate an emotion than love, jealousy or betrayal) could have gone either way IMO or involved both. Definitely not premeditated so passion and emotion by definition are not logical IMO

[Janz]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


AB, I went happily yelling about my home last night and e mailing all that TG Laurean has been put into custody! No one seemed concerned, even this am, I mentioned to our workers, Laurean is in custody, they all looked at me Like "Whatever". Oh yeah that MC dude who killed his girlfriend. So who would really pay attention? Just asking. We in the know on message boards who care? I think if it does not effect you or your immediate domicile, town or commute to work, Who Cares? So they shift Christina out to a recruiting center, half of these kids according to John Kerry, if they don't have a life, go to college, they end up in Iraq.
They are no where aware of daily news or murder. imo
Ranting sorry for O/T [/*]

Hello SB. I did the same with emails and telling friends and family. I only got quizzical looks. I join your rant!!

[Jan Powell]

Originally posted by JD81
I didn't find anything in the marine responses to the Congressman Maria was facing a discharge. Did anyone else? There may be some more crow eating coming up.:D

jmo:chicken:

Off to read it again. [/*]

Did you also read that Maria and CL both understood the MPO was effective both on and off base? And that she was excused from any event CL might be present?

She also told 5 different people that could assist/support her that she didn't feel threatened or in danger.

She was a mixed up young woman but with allegations this serious, the truth should be the truth whoever you tell it to.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by flipflop


Ok. Lets take the whole "slit throat" out of the equation. The rest of his actions are the reason I feel he is a cold blooded killer.

I just will not buy he loved her. I can't. If he loved her and it was a crime of passion....you wouldn't burn their body. You wouldn't try and steal from them. And you would try and save your unborn "love" child. Wouldn't you? If you "loved" someone? [/*]
I agree, flipflop. What happened after Maria was killed don't sound like what someone who loved that person would do. They are the actions of someone trying to cover up the crime and make it impossible for the ME to determine how she died, if there was anything left to be examined. Flight is also always thought of a consciousness of guilt.

[MoonFlwr]

Originally posted by Janz


Hello SB. I did the same with emails and telling friends and family. I only got quizzical looks. I join your rant!! [/*]

I can empathise with you guys! lol!

I decided to tone down my crime message board/trial watching stories at work, before they decided I needed certifying or something!

[Janz]

Originally posted by MoonFlwr


I can empathise with you guys! lol!

I decided to tone down my crime message board/trial watching stories at work, before they decided I needed certifying or something! [/*]

Sounds like a good idea. LOL

[hinman]

Originally posted by Jan Powell


Did you also read that Maria and CL both understood the MPO was effective both on and off base? And that she was excused from any event CL might be present?

She also told 5 different people that could assist/support her that she didn't feel threatened or in danger.

She was a mixed up young woman but with allegations this serious, the truth should be the truth whoever you tell it to. [/*]I have to agree Jan.

I really do cherish Maria and there could be a reason, that Maria felt was legitamate, for not telling the truth. I have to say though that the truth always shines brighter.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by Nellie
Well, crap guys, I didn't say I felt sorry for him! I just said I was surprised that I didn't think he looked cold and empty and that I'm still not so sure about the wife. But one thing I do believe is that he helped/did bury Maria, so evidently he was cold and inhumane and I'm surprised at my own reaction of seeing him on tv. I'm not totally convinced that he killed her yet....I gotta hear more. But yeah, you certainly don't bury someone "you love" like that....even if you ddin't kill them yourself! But, the observation about his eyes was not to say he is innocent or that I feel sorry for him. I am not ready to call him a cold blooded killer just yet based on a handwritten note and body in his backyard. Maria's body was also in Christina's backyard. For all I know, Christina may have written that note. I want to hear more and see more of the evidence to determine who killed her, so I'm not ready to convict him just yet. But, believe me, I don't have sympathy for murderers! Nor rapists! He just wasn't as "cold looking" as I expected him to be....that's all. [/*]

I feel many are surprised at the looks, the appearance, the demeanor of murderers, rapists, child molesters...they don't have a sign on their foreheads that labels them as such.
How many times have we seen the neighbors, families, aquaintanences of a serial killer, child prededtor, wife killer, family annilhiator, rapist, child abuser...etc....gosh, they seemed like such a wonderful man/woman, husband/wife. Neighbor, pillar of the community. They were so nice, quiet and friendly. They were so helpful and kind. And on and on and on.
Appearances, looks, demeanors that are presented to the world are not necessarily what is inside them and don't tell us all what they are truly capable of.
MOO<JMO<IMO

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by JD81
I didn't find anything in the marine responses to the Congressman Maria was facing a discharge. Did anyone else? There may be some more crow eating coming up.:D

jmo:chicken:

Off to read it again. [/*]

The Congressman was asking about a medical discharge wasn't he?

imoo

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


well you could be correct..nobody but me knows or cares in my little world here, either...it seems. My DD and I went out to lunch today and she "got to pick" where and chose a mexican restaurant, one of my favorites. I wanted to scream

how appropriate!! when she suggested mexican food, but I thought no, she will think I have gone over the edge...
I didn't find out till I got online this morning about 6:30, i was shocked....everyone else knew last nigt, of all nights I go to bed early. When I think of all the time I sat practically glued to TV for news of his capture, I was beginning to have a rug theory of my own & was wondering if we had seen the last of him, forever...
jmo and does anyone think the media would have picked up on it, or someone in the public would have tipped the media off if they 'thought' XTina was working as a recruiter? wouldn't THAT have made a good news item for a day or 2? [/*]

Yeah, a Marine recruiting office in Raleigh. Isn't that where Cesar left the truck, stayed in the motel, and hopped on the bus?

That's the definition of "coming full circle" if you ask me.

[crymeariver2006]

Okay, I'm not seeing the part in the MC response letter that says Maria didn't want to have sex in April with Cesar because he was married.

Could someone be so kind as to point out the line number or question number where that's covered?

TIA

[IvySterling]

~snipped
Originally posted by GentleBreeze
Well I am being heckled too for my perception so I guess that is just the way it goes. lol But I am just not going to lie and say I thought him to be some cold, dark, brooding, cold blooded killer when I saw him on tv last night. I was shocked that his eyes seem to emit warmth and emotions but that is what I saw and everyone is entitled to their own perceptions ....so I stand by mine.[/*]
Not heckled my ME, I felt the same way!

I've just been reading here all day, so many posters entered into the discussion that haven't been posting here everyday like some of us, SO I JUST KEPT QUIET and shook my head at times :D

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by Janz


Hello SB. I did the same with emails and telling friends and family. I only got quizzical looks. I join your rant!! [/*]

:beer:

[hinman]

I can't figure out how to copy the pdf file, but I do not think it says that Mrs. Laurean was a recruiter it says that she was recruited.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


The Congressman was asking about a medical discharge wasn't he?

imoo [/*]

Yes, and the Congressman was asking about a specific time frame. If you read all the way through to the end, Maria didn't do too well on her physical fitness testing and also had "adverse counseling" regarding tardiness.

[hinman]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006
Okay, I'm not seeing the part in the MC response letter that says Maria didn't want to have sex in April with Cesar because he was married.

Could someone be so kind as to point out the line number or question number where that's covered?

TIA [/*]It doesn't say April Cryme. Also I was rereading it and it says she claimed one consenual one rape.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

Not heckled my ME, I felt the same way!

I've just been reading here all day, so many posters entered into the discussion that haven't been posting here everyday like some of us, SO I JUST KEPT QUIET and shook my head at times :D [/*]

I have followed this from the beginning. I don't post a lot. But I do read as many others do. You probably weren't directing this at me but I do fall into your category.

I just wanted to remind you that although "we" don't always post, it doesn't mean we don't read and keep up.

:D

[hinman]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
So anyway...CAN Christina go visit Cesar in mexico? shes not under arrest, whats to stop her? [/*]I would have to say yes. I do not see why she could not.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well that wouldn't even take much smarts on his part imo. Whether he did this or not ...........he was going to be the one they blamed.

imoo [/*]

Of course GB, running in and of itself speaks guilt, but, not much about this whole case has been that smart. If you think back on each and everything. From the murder, the timing, the ATM, the painting, the bus ticket(s), the cell phone being ditched, the running....not necessarily in that order and I could go on, but I'm sure you all know better than I what I'm saying.
None of this has been smart (I hate the word stupid, so am not using it) from the very beginning.
JMO of course

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


well you could be correct..nobody but me knows or cares in my little world here, either...it seems. My DD and I went out to lunch today and she "got to pick" where and chose a mexican restaurant, one of my favorites. I wanted to scream

how appropriate!! when she suggested mexican food, but I thought no, she will think I have gone over the edge...
I didn't find out till I got online this morning about 6:30, i was shocked....everyone else knew last nigt, of all nights I go to bed early. When I think of all the time I sat practically glued to TV for news of his capture, I was beginning to have a rug theory of my own & was wondering if we had seen the last of him, forever...
jmo and does anyone think the media would have picked up on it, or someone in the public would have tipped the media off if they 'thought' XTina was working as a recruiter? wouldn't THAT have made a good news item for a day or 2? [/*]

Oh AB, I should have PM'd you, I was still working on stuffed cabbage and saw the breaking News, Went asap to the thread, thought of hinman, and Pm's quick wake up, all these months you peeps have kept the vigil. Better you slept and rested after all that spring cleaning. Hey, do you have a card? J/K Justice for Maria and Family, things are looking up, I wonder if we ever do get to hear testimony, could be a plea deal Eek jmo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Oregongal


I feel many are surprised at the looks, the appearance, the demeanor of murderers, rapists, child molesters...they don't have a sign on their foreheads that labels them as such.
How many times have we seen the neighbors, families, acquaintances of a serial killer, child predator, wife killer, family annilhiator, rapist, child abuser...etc....gosh, they seemed like such a wonderful man/woman, husband/wife. Neighbor, pillar of the community. They were so nice, quiet and friendly. They were so helpful and kind. And on and on and on.
Appearances, looks, demeanors that are presented to the world are not necessarily what is inside them and don't tell us all what they are truly capable of.
MOO<JMO<IMO [/*]

Well actually all of the sexual pedophiles I have seen look just like what I would image a sexual pedophile would look like except some of the female pedophiles.

I still feel that Laurean's facial features including his eyes showed a young man with feelings. I certainly did not pick up any vibes that he was devoid of feelings like I did when I saw Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson and many others.

Now that 17 year old kid that is on trial now for a thrill kill certainly has dead pool eyes imo. No light, no flicker, no illumination, no ...........nothing.

imoo

imoo

[hinman]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Yes, and the Congressman was asking about a specific time frame. If you read all the way through to the end, Maria didn't do too well on her physical fitness testing and also had "adverse counseling" regarding tardiness. [/*]I thought hte MC said she was facing a discharge but in this they are saying Lauterbach did not have any pending legal or administrative actions which would likely lead to a discharge.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by MoonFlwr


I can empathise with you guys! lol!

I decided to tone down my crime message board/trial watching stories at work, before they decided I needed certifying or something! [/*]

:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by hinman
I can't figure out how to copy the pdf file, but I do not think it says that Mrs. Laurean was a recruiter it says that she was recruited. [/*]

...she formally joined the active component on January 4, 2008. She was originally assigned to Recruiting Station, Raleigh, NC. When her package was approved she was transferred and assigned to Headquarters Group , II Marine Expeditionary Force as a personnel clerk.



http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

So yes, she was in Raleigh the week before Cesar "escaped".

Another one of those things that makes you go hmmmmmmmm.....

[donna]

I am VERY happy that CAL has been captured and will finally have to face the consequences for what he has done.

I do have to say that I am disappointed that Christina will not be held accountable for letting CAL get such a headstart. I still do not think she is being truthful.

(I had to sleep this afternoon because I have to be at work shortly)

[hinman]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Oh AB, I should have PM'd you, I was still working on stuffed cabbage and saw the breaking News, Went asap to the thread, thought of hinman, and Pm's quick wake up, all these months you peeps have kept the vigil. Better you slept and rested after all that spring cleaning. Hey, do you have a card? J/K Justice for Maria and Family, things are looking up, I wonder if we ever do get to hear testimony, could be a plea deal Eek jmo [/*]Thank you SB for that PM. I really appreciated it.

I hope we get to hear her testimony. I think if she takes a plea deal then she will have to testify. She is a big part of this case.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

Not heckled my ME, I felt the same way!

I've just been reading here all day, so many posters entered into the discussion that haven't been posting here everyday like some of us, SO I JUST KEPT QUIET and shook my head at times :D [/*]


:seeya: :)

[wandering]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well actually all of the sexual pedophiles I have seen look just like what I would image a sexual pedophile would look like except some of the female pedophiles.

I still feel that Laurean's facial features including his eyes showed a young man with feelings. I certainly did not pick up any vibes that he was devoid of feelings like I did when I saw Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson and many others.

Now that 17 year old kid that is on trial now for a thrill kill certainly has dead pool eyes imo. No light, no flicker, no illumination, no ...........nothing.

imoo

imoo [/*]All that means absolutely nothing. You can't tell a murderer by the look in his eyes. :rolleyes:

He's probably happy he was apprehended, he gets a place to sleep and three squares. He was out of money.

Not much fun being on the run, all by himself.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
IT's there. Re read it. I dont want to go back and give you line item but it is there I read it too. [/*]

Well I have read it and re-read it, but didn't see it. That's why I asked for a line or question number. If you don't want to or can't provide it, that's fine. I would just like to see it.

[Miss Behavin]

Talking about this tonight on Nancy Grace - although Nancy has a sub tonight. Interviewed the sheriff - doesn't sound like they are going to press charges against his wife for communicating with him.

[hinman]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006






http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

So yes, she was in Raleigh the week before Cesar "escaped".

Another one of those things that makes you go hmmmmmmmm..... [/*]yes that is good catch cryme.

[hinman]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
IT's there. Re read it. I dont want to go back and give you line item but it is there I read it too.
Q no 1. [/*]it is there but I do not think it says April on there.

[wandering]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

Not heckled my ME, I felt the same way!

I've just been reading here all day, so many posters entered into the discussion that haven't been posting here everyday like some of us, SO I JUST KEPT QUIET and shook my head at times :D [/*]Your sense of entitlement is only in your head.

Y'all been posting for months, making up stuff and chewing...

Nothing really to post about, the whole time. No new facts, nada.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by flipflop


I have followed this from the beginning. I don't post a lot. But I do read as many others do. You probably weren't directing this at me but I do fall into your category.

I just wanted to remind you that although "we" don't always post, it doesn't mean we don't read and keep up.

:D [/*]

Me too, but I commend those who kept this thread up and active. I had nothing to convey, felt like beating a dead horse. No offense to anyone. Checked in every am and pm praying for CL capture. Now we wait again, patience.

:)spelling

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by sunstar

Just like I'm listening to Drew P. telling Larry King his wife ran off. End of case! :D [/*]

Yeah, right...(she says sarcastically)!

[flipflop]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Well actually all of the sexual pedophiles I have seen look just like what I would image a sexual pedophile would look like except some of the female pedophiles.

I still feel that Laurean's facial features including his eyes showed a young man with feelings. I certainly did not pick up any vibes that he was devoid of feelings like I did when I saw Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson and many others.

Now that 17 year old kid that is on trial now for a thrill kill certainly has dead pool eyes imo. No light, no flicker, no illumination, no ...........nothing.

imoo

imoo [/*]

I wish I could see what you see. I really do. I do see a nice looking boy/man. He has always been good looking, even in his pics we saw before he was caught.

I think he does have feelings. He is worried about his future. He knows he messed up. Big time. For me, that is what I see. Someone worried about a future of cold, steel, bars.

I have looked at him for the past 3/4 months. And everytime, I have thought how good looking he is and why he would throw his life away like this. Why do such a thing. There were so many ways out, other than what he chose.

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/links/marinequestions.pdf

So yes, she was in Raleigh the week before Cesar "escaped".

Another one of those things that makes you go hmmmmmmmm..... [/*]
I remember Richard Alander saying he hadn't seen her early in December, only her car.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Well I have read it and re-read it, but didn't see it. That's why I asked for a line or question number. If you don't want to or can't provide it, that's fine. I would just like to see it. [/*]

Quoting myself 'cause I found it - finally.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Me too, but I commend those who kept this thread up and active. I had nothing to convey, felt like beating a dead horse. No offense to anyone. Checked in every am and pm praying for CL capture. Now we wait again, patience.

:)spelling [/*]

I agree. You are are right about those who kept the board alive, even when there was nothing to talk about. Thanks to all of you. :)

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
HE used his myspace to communicate with her????? At an internet Cafe???? [/*]
Yes, it's true! I just got through reading news articles, along with the USMC response to Rep. Turner, and listening to Greta! :D

[sunstar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


Quoting myself 'cause I found it - finally. [/*]
I just got through reading it myself and saving it to my computer.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
It's in Q no 1s response...
arrrrrrrg

Quid Pro Quo, now you give me the myspace page. [/*]

LOL, I finally found it a minute ago. Candy's the Myspace linker, I never saved any of them and I don't think any of us ever found Christina and CEsar's Myspace where they were communicating.

Heck, if I had found it, I would have sent it off to RS!

Maybe I coulda got a reward!

[CanCan]

Just got back from babysitting toddler grandson - so I'm waaaay behind all you guys. I'm watching NG right now. Here's a couple impressions:

1. CL looks like a scared kid to me - not a coldblooded killer. :chicken:

2. I think that he said "I loved her" regarding Maria as a way to give forewarning to Christina that he intends to spill his guts and tell the truth- that Christina was involved (I still believe she is the killer, despite what LE says in the PC - I think they're playing her along ala Susan Smith).

all jmo

(don't jump on me too hard - I've been out of the country and am waaaay behind on the entire case) hammer

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
HE used his myspace to communicate with her????? At an internet Cafe???? [/*]
My guess CT is that he was communicating with Christina via her sister's MySpace page and I said that a couple of times in posts.

Easy to use the PM feature on MySpace and bet that's what they were doing.

[VC2]

So hudson is absolutely convinced Christina had nothing to do with the murder or the covering up of the murder

Just said it on greta.

imo

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by IvySterling
~snipped

Not heckled my ME, I felt the same way!

I've just been reading here all day, so many posters entered into the discussion that haven't been posting here everyday like some of us, SO I JUST KEPT QUIET and shook my head at times :D [/*]

Oh jeez... I feel so welcome!

I haven't posted in this thread before but I have kept up with the case. Not too much to really post about on a daily basis before he was actually found and captured IMO.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


well you could be correct..nobody but me knows or cares in my little world here, either...it seems. My DD and I went out to lunch today and she "got to pick" where and chose a mexican restaurant, one of my favorites. I wanted to scream

how appropriate!! when she suggested mexican food, but I thought no, she will think I have gone over the edge...
I didn't find out till I got online this morning about 6:30, i was shocked....everyone else knew last nigt, of all nights I go to bed early. When I think of all the time I sat practically glued to TV for news of his capture, I was beginning to have a rug theory of my own & was wondering if we had seen the last of him, forever...
jmo and does anyone think the media would have picked up on it, or someone in the public would have tipped the media off if they 'thought' XTina was working as a recruiter? wouldn't THAT have made a good news item for a day or 2? [/*]

I'm with you Annie and am still LOLOLOLing bout the Mexican resturant. Last night, I am YAHOOING bout the capture and my DD was like, :rolleyes: oh, you're on that again.
Me thinks there are is a certain type of angels that are into this.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I remember Richard Alander saying he hadn't seen her early in December, only her car. [/*]

Yeah, now you wonder just who was describing a motel room they were staying in when they were supposedly "on the run".

And where the bus ticket came from.

And where to leave the truck.

All JMO though. But it's mighty coinky dinky that she was in the same city in NC where he "fled" to when he hopped a bus.

Just sayin'.......

[JD81]

Did anyone see DA Hudson on Greta? He is confident Christina did not know anything about the murder or what he did with the body. He said her diary revealed she was thinking about suicide in January but didn't because of her child. How sad.

jmo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


but...but...he had advocados!!



jmo

AB [/*]
One article also said he had canned tuna and soup on the shelves of his "cabin" in the avocado orchard. :o

[Miss Behavin]

Originally posted by VC2
So hudson is absolutely convinced Christina had nothing to do with the murder or the covering up of the murder

Just said it on greta.

imo [/*]

That's what I heard too - from an interview with the sheriff.

[flipflop]

Originally posted by CanCan
Just got back from babysitting toddler grandson - so I'm waaaay behind all you guys. I'm watching NG right now. Here's a couple impressions:

1. CL looks like a scared kid to me - not a coldblooded killer. :chicken:

2. I think that he said "I loved her" regarding Maria as a way to give forewarning to Christina that he intends to spill his guts and tell the truth- that Christina was involved (I still believe she is the killer, despite what LE says in the PC - I think they're playing her along ala Susan Smith).

all jmo

(don't jump on me too hard - I've been out of the country and am waaaay behind on the entire case) hammer [/*]

You could be right. He probably is a scared "kid". Hell he knows he is being charged with first degree murder. But if he did what has been allleged then he is a cold blooded killer.

As far as setting Christina up? I don't know. That will take a lot of proof from him. But maybe you are right they are playing her.
I do believe she played a part in this. I don't believe she killed Maria though.

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean
So anyway...CAN Christina go visit Cesar in mexico? shes not under arrest, whats to stop her? [/*]

She's in the MC. Who knows if she can?:shrug:

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by JD81
Did anyone see DA Hudson on Greta? He is confident Christina did not know anything about the murder or what he did with the body. He said her diary revealed she was thinking about suicide in January but didn't because of her child. How sad.

jmo [/*]

Yes, I just listened to Mr. Hudson and he gave a little more information about the use of MySpace to send messages. According to Mr. Hudson, Cesar sent a message to Amber's MySpace asking her to give Christina his email address that he was providing to her.

[VC2]

not only did he say he was convinced but that if anyone had the evidence he did and had read her diaries that they would have compassion for her.

Also mentioned that it was ambers myspace that CL posted on to give his new email address.

[hinman]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
OH i thought they wanted to know about the comment of not wanting to sleep w.him because he was married...etc. I'm also surprised to see that she really didnt think the child was his....maybe she said that because she was afraid of his wife's wrath?
After all, who punched her. A wife, who was pissed off, has another marine punch her out. Then keys her car....little taunts..
I'm really not confident that his wife wasnt involved. They Siezed her diaries, she was contemplating suicide in her diaries.....but still I dont have comp for his wife at this point.....because I need to know where she was when her home was painted.....the comments she made to the neighbors about that painting event are still with me. She knew. And i'm sure she was prolly behind the punching her in the face too......:shrug: [/*]I am a little surprised that they are so confident that she was not involved. There must be some good evidence against CL or her involvement is minimal and they feel it is not worth the case and would rather have her as a witness.

A lot still does not make sense so I see why so many can not believe that she was not involved in some way.

[JD81]

Originally posted by CAT TOY
I dont care; I'm not convinced at all; because of the painting, and the bonfires, in the yard, and those photos of the stuff in the garage, how it was all patch painted....really in the most stupid way; as if no one would know; just patch over that wall there, move those totes, and partially paint that wall there....Yeah.
That makes sense. I'm not going to question my husband as to why about THAT.....*yeah right*
I dont care what she wrote these guys are bozos if they think she wasnt invovled. [/*]

I think you should contact LE and the DA and set them straight.:D

[JD81]

Originally posted by AnnieBean


So was Cesar. Didn't seem to interrupt his travel plans....jus sayin.. [/*]

You're kidding right?

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by sherryhefner
I was just listening to Hudson speak on Greta....he seems to have a lot of faith in Christine. He said that while the FBI has not gone thru all the email, he himself read thru her letters and he had a lot of compassion for her. He said in the letters she threatened to kill herself, except for her responsibility to her daughter.

I guess I may have to eat my words....but I just don't see how she could not know anything! [/*]

I think he should wait until he finishes all the emails and talks with Cesar.

Strange that her "letters" are threatening suicide and that's exactly how Cesar's "letters" described what happened to Maria.

But, as I've said before, the day they come out and officially clear her of any and all involvement, is the day I'll change my opinion.