Friday 04-11-08 ***** (5 star day) [Archive]

Mimi428

04-10-2008, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by nuttintodo
WOOOHOOOO

HE'S BEEN CAUGHT!!!

First extradiation! Andt then...

On to the trial! :patriot: [/*]

And inbetween, he & his wife are going to keep their attorneys very busy. I truly believe he is going to point the finger at her as being just as, if not more, responsible for Maria's death.

JMO

caejde

04-10-2008, 10:55 PM

OMG!!! I just woke up and saw the news!!!! I told strick just like 2 days ago that I had a feeling his capture was close!

Sweetyhide

04-10-2008, 10:56 PM

OMG!! finally!

nuttintodo

04-10-2008, 11:08 PM

Did anyone else hear on CNN that CAL has been in contact with CSL via the computer and he was asking for money???

True2Blues

04-10-2008, 11:11 PM

The article on MSNBC says that if he fights extradition it could be a year or two before he can be brought back the face trial.

Pinetree

04-10-2008, 11:13 PM

HOORAY!!

Great news!!

Now, maybe we'll find out what his wife did or didn't know....

flipflop

04-10-2008, 11:13 PM

HOLY COW!!!! I just saw. This is so great
:beer: :beer:

Pinetree

04-10-2008, 11:17 PM

Wife and him have been communicating via the computer.....did she notify authorities?? OMG...she still loves him deeply!!! :eek:

Pinetree

04-10-2008, 11:19 PM

I want his accomplice wife in jail....NOW! :flamemad:

Sweetyhide

04-10-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by ATLANTIS
I can't believe they got him....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_MARINE?SITE=TNKNN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Evidently he didn't plan as well as I thought...I was sure he had contacts that would protect him and it would take the Mexican Army to get him...

Of course , you realize this means prosecutors have already told the Mexican government they won't seek the death penalty, so the most he can get is life in prison without any parole.Still it's very good news....:patriot: [/*]

From your link:

"We had intel that he had gone back to America to visit his family in Las Vegas and I was hoping they would arrest him in America," Hudson said. "But they didn't. This is a case that certainly is deserving to be tried as a capital case."

He was here? Wow!

Danette44

04-10-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by CAT TOY
Death Penalty OFF THE TABLE...................wow

I hope they file charges against her; this will all come out in the wash.......

but wait. Will he go to a Military Tribunal or will it be state? He is AWOL so this is an issue. I do not want to see a Miliatary Trial for this creep. NC says NO DEALS for CL, and for his wife, he will not answer regarding charges...etc.

CT [/*]

I don't think the military can charge him - it happen off post....I'm pretty sure thats how it works.

mollybrown

04-10-2008, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by CAT TOY
OFGS now Dog says they were part of this and mark furhman too?
snipped [/*]

To be honest I don't care if it was OJ that "was in on this" I'm just happy, very HAPPY that this POS is in custody. (I need a happy dance smiley) :beer:

TennVol

04-10-2008, 11:44 PM

I just saw this news. THANK GOD he was caught.

DesertWalker

04-11-2008, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES
:patriot: :patriot:

Let the road to justice start by Mexico releasing him without any unreasonable delay. [/*]Amen!:beer:

Kelly3820

04-11-2008, 12:35 AM

Kudos to all that helped in catching this snake and hopefully they are working just as hard to catch anyone who helped him:beer:

Justice_Dawg

04-11-2008, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
I want his accomplice wife in jail....NOW! :flamemad: [/*]Agreed. :beer:

Justice_Dawg

04-11-2008, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by mollybrown

To be honest I don't care if it was OJ that "was in on this" I'm just happy, very HAPPY that this POS is in custody. (I need a happy dance smiley) :beer: [/*]

I had a few beers! Here, have one! :beer:

damienstoy

04-11-2008, 12:50 AM

This is excellent news! I hope the Mexican government will send him home asap to face trial, and that anyone and everyone who helped him to hide will be prosecuted.

Fair trials (and long sentences) for all of them.:cool:

PrimeSuspect210

04-11-2008, 01:07 AM

Excellent news!

shelkobe

04-11-2008, 01:45 AM

Wonderful! May justice be served.

Interesting how the one thing he says to the press is "proof." I guess he doesn't realize that the autopsy results are out.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_MARINE?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean simply said "Proof," but wouldn't explain.

Laurean appeared slightly disoriented. Asked what he would do next, he replied, "do I have a choice? ... I don't know."

AlohaRainbow

04-11-2008, 01:48 AM

yay!!! i just got home from work, fired up the computer, clicked on foxnews... as soon as i saw the headline, i couldn't wait to beat feet (or fingers) to see all the celebrating here :D

awareness

04-11-2008, 01:58 AM

Im glad they caught him finally.

:flamemad:

JMO/IMO

Leanne Weich

04-11-2008, 02:22 AM

If it can be proven that Chrisina has been communicating with Cesar, does this automatically mean she'll be charged with conspiracy?

Fallen Angel

04-11-2008, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
If it can be proven that Chrisina has been communicating with Cesar, does this automatically mean she'll be charged with conspiracy? [/*]I pray it does

duncan

04-11-2008, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by ATLANTIS
I can't believe they got him....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_MARINE?SITE=TNKNN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Evidently he didn't plan as well as I thought...I was sure he had contacts that would protect him and it would take the Mexican Army to get him...

Of course , you realize this means prosecutors have already told the Mexican government they won't seek the death penalty, so the most he can get is life in prison without any parole.Still it's very good news....:patriot: [/*]

thank you for the link, I was at work and missed the news.

So Ceasar was broke and eating food he found in fields??? And he was able to contact his devoted wife???

There is so much more to this story, I hope some facts get out and in the news, and I still want to see some photos of Christine.

duncan

04-11-2008, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by CAT TOY
Gotta love it; The Net and Email has Captured him. How Ironic.
How Poetic.

He will spend his life in Leavenworth, Federal Prison... :shrug:

She needs to be charged as an ascc and maybe now she will be.

I will be elated then. Because I KNOW she knew exactly what happened. She may have even caused her death we do not know. Keeping her free allowed him to be caught. Now all bets will be off.

CT [/*]

I agree, but in the article I read DA Hudson stated the her communicating with Ceasar is not illegal:confused:

We may be forced to wait till Ceasar is back in Onslow County and telling his story to find out what she knew or did, but I agree with you, she helped paint over blood, she helped burn the body and she helped get rid of a Christmas tree weeks before Christmas, she had to know. omo

halfbaked

04-11-2008, 03:56 AM

Wnderful News!! I'll be waiting to see what happens next!! Wooohooo!!

Babes

04-11-2008, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
If it can be proven that Chrisina has been communicating with Cesar, does this automatically mean she'll be charged with conspiracy? [/*]

If she's a cooperating witness then why does she needs to use her sister's computer when she can access her own PC to send him email?

MoonFlwr

04-11-2008, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
If it can be proven that Chrisina has been communicating with Cesar, does this automatically mean she'll be charged with conspiracy? [/*]

The CNN article says that she wouldn't necessarily be in trouble for talking to her husband.
Only if she was an accomplice.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10/missing.marine/index.html

sarahhod

04-11-2008, 06:00 AM

So happy to wake up to this news today.

Justice is finally coming for Maria and her baby. :rose:

henry

04-11-2008, 06:04 AM

hah! i decided to make it a 5 ***** day and no, it wasn't a curse word!

day 91 was cesar's unlucky number . . .

congratulations to everyone that persevered. if they need "proof" just tell them to come here!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 06:25 AM

Welcome back henry!

I'm never gonna get caught up! And wouldn't you know, I have to go out of town today. :cuss:

:beer: To all our posters and those who wandered and came back with the news!

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 06:28 AM

So maybe the JDnews poster was technically correct about the "raid" at Amber's house?

(And some of us were too?)

I know this has probably been covered, but dang it, I'm still reading!

RiverWalk

04-11-2008, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by henry
hah! i decided to make it a 5 ***** day and no, it wasn't a curse word!

day 91 was cesar's unlucky number . . .

congratulations to everyone that persevered. if they need "proof" just tell them to come here!

:patriot: [/*]

Hi to you too. So glad CL was caught. :patriot:

n/t

04-11-2008, 06:36 AM

Wonderful news!

Finally justice for Maria and her little angel. :rose:

henry

04-11-2008, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by RiverWalk

Hi to you too. So glad CL was caught. :patriot: [/*]

:seeya: i was watching the tv last nite & couldn't unglue myself from it to log in here . . . i was constantly correcting the reporters & dh told me to stop talking 'cause he couldn't hear what they were saying!

edit - that "raid" was legit & now also go back to those coded messages that were discussed here . . . wonder if those were also legit?

edit edit . . . oops - imo

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 06:48 AM

What coded messages?

henry

04-11-2008, 06:51 AM

hopefully nelkirk will be joining us today . . . nelkirk found this in a cnn report . . .

Detectives believe Laurean killed Lauterbach, who was 20 and eight months pregnant, on Dec. 14 after forcing her to remove money from her bank account.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine

n/t

04-11-2008, 07:18 AM

Wonderful news! May Maria and her sweet little angel finally get the justice they deserve. :rose:

I was reading up on a CNN article. It says he told police he had been sleeping in avocado groves and eating the fruit from the trees and then it goes on to say that he had been communicating with his wife via computer. I wonder how he got access to a computer?

Do we know how he was captured? Did someone turn him in?

TIA!

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10/missing.marine/index.html

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 07:18 AM

I think the "he said he loved her" shocked us all more than anything. I don't think any of us EVER expected that.

Oh how interesting this will be.......

henry

04-11-2008, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by n/t
Wonderful news! May Maria and her sweet little angel finally get the justice they deserve. :rose:

I was reading up on a CNN article. It says he told police he had been sleeping in avocado groves and eating the fruit from the trees and then it goes on to say that he had been communicating with his wife via computer. I wonder how he got access to a computer?

Do we know how he was captured? Did someone turn him in?

TIA!

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10/missing.marine/index.html [/*]

for us speedreaders :) same cnn article . . .

Magdalena Guzman, a prosecutors' spokeswoman, said police carrying out an anti-kidnapping operation stopped Laurean as he wandered on a street because they thought he looked suspicious.

When they realized he didn't speak Spanish well, they became even more suspicious. After running his name through a computer — and recognizing his distinctive tattoos — they realized Laurean was wanted in the United States to face charges in Lauterbach's death.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_re_us/missing_marine

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by henry
hah! i decided to make it a 5 ***** day and no, it wasn't a curse word!

day 91 was cesar's unlucky number . . .

congratulations to everyone that persevered. if they need "proof" just tell them to come here!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: [/*]

YEA! The countdown is done!

n/t

04-11-2008, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by henry

for us speedreaders :) same cnn article . . .

] [/*]

See that's why I love posters here. They always have the answers when I'm speedreading and skip through some of the important stuff whilst I'm trying to get ready for work.:D

Thanks henry!

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 07:27 AM

n/t

04-11-2008, 07:29 AM

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

That was the first headline I saw when i got online this morning. I am stunned. jmo [/*]

I wasn't, but you already guessed that. I've opined it all along.

But I wasn't expecting him to go all Al Cowlings on them "You know my name, You know who I am!" :D

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by n/t

Yes, I was very surprised to have read that. [/*]

Puts a whole different spin on things for me anyway.

I never believed he raped her and I did believe they had some sort of ongoing relationship....but I never expected to hear he actually loved her.

I am still not at all convinced that Christina was involved in Maria's murder, but we may find Cesar's motive will be surprising as well.

Well at least the board will be more active for a while now. I hope he chooses not to fight extradition.

All I can say is "wow"......I turned on Greta last night (lucky I wasn't asleep before that), and heard he'd been captured. I couldn't believe it. FINALLY.

henry

04-11-2008, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

I wasn't, but you already guessed that. I've opined it all along.

But I wasn't expecting him to go all Al Cowlings on them "You know my name, You know who I am!" :D [/*]

:D . . . and did you catch a glimpse of the sleeveless tshirt he was wearing . . . priceless!

n/t

04-11-2008, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Puts a whole different spin on things for me anyway.

I never believed he raped her and I did believe they had some sort of ongoing relationship....but I never expected to hear he actually loved her.

I am still not at all convinced that Christina was involved in Maria's murder, but we may find Cesar's motive will be surprising as well.

Well at least the board will be more active for a while now. I hope he chooses not to fight extradition.

All I can say is "wow"......I turned on Greta last night (lucky I wasn't asleep before that), and heard he'd been captured. I couldn't believe it. FINALLY. [/*]

I agree that it does put a different spin on things. What other reason could there be for him to say he loved her? Does he think he could get a lesser charge? Not sure what the laws are in Mexico but something to research, I guess.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by n/t

I agree that it does put a different spin on things. What other reason could there be for him to say he loved her? Does he think he could get a lesser charge? Not sure what the laws are in Mexico but something to research, I guess. [/*]

Well being devil's advocate here.....maybe he was simply being truthful. Say that he did honestly love her...and remorseful over killing her in the heat of passion. I always thought something just made him snap that day. :shrug:

In actuality, despite the fact he's been caught, we know nothing more now than we ever did, except for that loving her statement. And that he was in communication with Christina, and that SHE loved HIM, still.

Crazy. :D

henry

04-11-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by n/t

I agree that it does put a different spin on things. What other reason could there be for him to say he loved her? Does he think he could get a lesser charge? Not sure what the laws are in Mexico but something to research, I guess. [/*]

or . . . could it be that's another lie to compliment the story he's telling? don't know yet . . . imo

edit . . . what's come out of the laureans' stories that's been the "truth" . . . not much, imo

NCGoldsGal

04-11-2008, 07:50 AM

TGIF has a new meaning this morning. Like MW5 that was the first and only headline I read this morning. I was surprised with the "I love her" There is more to this than we know.

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by henry

or . . . could it be that's another lie to compliment the story he's telling? don't know yet . . . imo

edit . . . what's come out of the laureans' stories that's been the "truth" . . . not much, imo [/*]

If he truly loved Maria, Christina may as well get her tush to the bus stop and prepare to be thrown under the next one. Even I feel bad for her knowing she continued to profess her love for him (even if it was just in her diary) and upon capture he professes his love for Maria. JMO

henry

04-11-2008, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by NCGoldsGal
TGIF has a new meaning this morning. Like MW5 that was the first and only headline I read this morning. I was surprised with the "I love her" There is more to this than we know. [/*]

crap . . . i forgot today is also TGIF . . . thanks for remembering!

yup to mw5 . . . but i still keep in the back of my mind and redirect my sadness/sorrow to maria, gabriel and her family . . . :rose:

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by henry

crap . . . i forgot today is also TGIF . . . thanks for remembering!

yup to mw5 . . . but i still keep in the back of my mind and redirect my sorrow to maria, gabriel and her family . . . :rose: [/*]

I know the relief we all felt...i cannot imagine how they all felt...it had to be beyond intense. jmo

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:00 AM

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

IF you are talking about MARIA, I beg to differ. Ocean, martha and I have thought that. I have some more reading to do. :read: [/*]

I always believed a relationship, but not that HE loved HER. Seems he's not worried about wifey's loyalty at this point. JMO

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:03 AM

I also remember a time Greta spoke about it looking more like a shrine and she wondered if there wasn't something to that.

JMO.:o

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES
I also remember a time Greta spoke about it looking more like a shrine and she wondered if there wasn't something to that.

JMO.:o [/*]
what looked more like a shrine?

n/t

04-11-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well being devil's advocate here.....maybe he was simply being truthful. Say that he did honestly love her...and remorseful over killing her in the heat of passion. I always thought something just made him snap that day. :shrug:

In actuality, despite the fact he's been caught, we know nothing more now than we ever did, except for that loving her statement. And that he was in communication with Christina, and that SHE loved HIM, still.

Crazy. :D [/*]

Killing someone you love in a heat of passion, burying her and then burning her body? Nuh huh. I think his reasons are to protect his sorry arse from what lies ahead. IMO!

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

I always believed a relationship, but not that HE loved HER. Seems he's not worried about wifey's loyalty at this point. JMO [/*]

I am still thinking wifey might have dealt the final blow myself. And those baby clothes speak to a scorned woman from the grave from my view point MW.

They both need to go down for this IMO.

My money still says Maria was more fearful of Christina, but time will tell.

JMO.:shrug:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

what looked more like a shrine? [/*]

Those building blocks, she had a psychologist on that night and they spoke briefly about it. :shrug:

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

I am still thinking wifey might have dealt the final blow myself. And those baby clothes speak to a scorned woman from the grave from my view point MW.

They both need to go down for this IMO.

My money still says Maria was more fearful of Christina, but time will tell.

JMO.:shrug: [/*]

I'm sure she's a "woman scorned" now. And it seems CL is tired, hungry, and drained. Not sure it would have occurred to him last night to lie about anything. JMO

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

IF you are talking about MARIA, I beg to differ. Ocean, martha and I have thought that. I have some more reading to do. :read: [/*]

Well IIRC you all thought they had a relationship......as I did....I don't remember you guys saying you thought he actually loved her. I could have missed it though.

Do you want a grand prize? :D

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

Those building blocks, she had a psychologist on that night and they spoke briefly about it. :shrug: [/*]

Very possibly a shrine. I am starting to really feel that we have dozens of holes in the story to be filled in. JMO

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

Those building blocks, she had a psychologist on that night and they spoke briefly about it. :shrug: [/*]

I make it a point to NEVER listen to those armchair psychologists on the TH shows. :tongue:

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by n/t

Killing someone you love in a heat of passion, burying her and then burning her body? Nuh huh. I think his reasons are to protect his sorry arse from what lies ahead. IMO! [/*]

Okay if someone kills someone in the heat of passion, what do you suggest they do with the body? After killing her, his self-preservation/survival mode kicked in. He did not want to get caught! Plain and simple.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

Very possibly a shrine. I am starting to really feel that we have dozens of holes in the story to be filled in. JMO [/*]

Yup, I do too. Now I am hearing at least a year to get him back on CBS a few minutes ago.

WTH?
jmo

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

Yup, I do too. Now I am hearing at least a year to get him back on CBS a few minutes ago.

WTH?
jmo [/*]

I think that was IF he fights extradition.

RiverWalk

04-11-2008, 08:14 AM

BECAUSE CL said "I loved her" you are now buying his BS?

CL only loved and cared about himself. HIS actions proved that, imo. CL ever once "man'd up". He's still being a chicken S***, imo.

henry

04-11-2008, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by tbrito1
Good morning everyone!:seeya: Well I bet that we all woke up with a big ole smile on our face this morning know that CL has been caught.

One question: If he was sleeping on avacado leaves and such how did he email his wife? do they have internet cafes in Mexico and don't you need money to use them? he had no money??:seeya: [/*]

iirc from greta's show last nite, greta pressed the fbi spokeswoman . . . they spotted him/trailed him for the past several days . . . maybe he realized they were on his tail and cesar left where he's been hiding out. but, he does look like he's lost weight . . . avacados, hmmmm.
imo

edit: riverwalk . . . you posted my thoughts exactly and put them in words . . . high five!

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Okay if someone kills someone in the heat of passion, what do you suggest they do with the body? After killing her, his self-preservation/survival mode kicked in. He did not want to get caught! Plain and simple. [/*]

exactly.

self-preservation and i'd say it will cost him.

jmo

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

exactly.

self-preservation and i'd say it will cost him.

jmo [/*]

How much self preservation is involved when you bury a body in your backyard and the Atlantic Ocean is only 30 minutes away?

:shrug:

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by n/t

Killing someone you love in a heat of passion, burying her and then burning her body? Nuh huh. I think his reasons are to protect his sorry arse from what lies ahead. IMO! [/*]

LOL, believing this liar just because he says "I loved her" how utterly absurd!

This is a wonderful day, now let's see if this POS fights extradition. If he does, it could take a year or more to get him
back here for trial. But, that is a hard year in a Mexican prison.
Gonna be interesting to see what he does.

I am very glad that eventually there will be a trial, but at trial, imo,
the real attack on this poor victim will begin. Once laurean has access to his legal team, a story will be weaved that will make the
attacks on Maria from this board seem like childsplay. IMO. :cuss:

Don't forget, press conference at 2:00 p.m. and let's hope Brown isn't the one giving it.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:19 AM

It's entirely possible he loved her. We really don't know the full story yet.

Somebody upthread (I think MW5?) said when he was captured he really looked too tired, beaten down to think of quick lies. I agree. I think we'll be hearing more and more about Maria's and Cesar's relationship.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

How much self preservation is involved when you bury a body in your backyard and the Atlantic Ocean is only 30 minutes away?

:shrug: [/*]

Something tells me he never came out of self-preservation and some of what was said that night on Greta was possibly true.

I also remember thinking how he looked much thinner at the ATM allegedly stealing her money:cuss: and hoping it was eating him alive.

But alas, he had room for the grove food when on the run.

JMO.

A commercial for Aeropostle too. :o

n/t

04-11-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by RiverWalk
BECAUSE CL said "I loved her" you are now buying his BS?

CL only loved and cared about himself. HIS actions proved that, imo. CL ever once "man'd up". He's still being a chicken S***, imo. [/*]

Exactly. If he really loved her and accidently killed her in the heat of passion, he would've called the appropriate authorities and turned himself in. But instead he goes out and buys all the stuff to bury her and then burn her. Didn't they have BBQ parties in their backyard knowing she was buried there?

Coward! He got caught and now he's trying to come up with anything to save his sorry arse. I'm not buying it.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar
It's entirely possible he loved her. We really don't know the full story yet.

Somebody upthread (I think MW5?) said when he was captured he really looked too tired, beaten down to think of quick lies. I agree. I think we'll be hearing more and more about Maria's and Cesar's relationship. [/*]

Yes, he had some very benign answers too and did not lie about his name. I believe he was ready but probably afraid.

While I know it doesn't compare to the fear that poor Maria experienced in that garage if she saw what was coming, he knows his life is truly over now IMO.

JMO tho.

I would love to see some of what he was writing back to Christina.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by n/t

Exactly. If he really loved her and accidently killed her in the heat of passion, he would've called the appropriate authorities and turned himself in. But instead he goes out and buys all the stuff to bury her and then burn her. Didn't they have BBQ parties in their backyard knowing she was buried there?

Coward! He got caught and now he's trying to come up with anything to save his sorry arse. I'm not buying it. [/*]

Re the heat of passion......I didn't say "accidentally". (I know you're not responding to my post here, but I wanted to clarify that.)

caejde

04-11-2008, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

That was the first headline I saw when i got online this morning. I am stunned. jmo [/*]

I missed that...loved who...Maria or Christina??

mrsmcgoo

04-11-2008, 08:27 AM

Great news this morning!!!

Even if he is kept in a Mexican jail for a few years, that is fine. From what has been said in the public, the Mexican jails are in no way a holiday! Good enough for me, as long as they detain him, and eventually send him along for some justice. You can bet he is not going to be popular ANYWHERE he is. Even hardened criminals have a soft spot for the killing of nearly full term babies and young woman.

Now LE it time to step up and get this twisted wife for her roll in this!

JMO

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by caejde

I missed that...loved who...Maria or Christina?? [/*]

Maria

caejde

04-11-2008, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by crymeariver2006

Maria [/*]

Geez...see what happens when you go to sleep for 4 hours...you miss it. Does anyone have the article.

Cardinal

04-11-2008, 08:36 AM

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Cardinal

I did. By his definition anyway. :)

Wish I could stay home and post, but it's not possible. Have a WONDERFUL day, everyone!!

:seeya: [/*]

I think "his definition" is right on the mark. Love means different things to different people. JMO

Lyn_T

04-11-2008, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by tbrito1
Good morning everyone!:seeya: Well I bet that we all woke up with a big ole smile on our face this morning know that CL has been caught.

One question: If he was sleeping on avacado leaves and such how did he email his wife? do they have internet cafes in Mexico and don't you need money to use them? he had no money??:seeya: [/*]

Morning all.....Happy Day

If he had the 5,000 when he left would it be possible he took a laptop or bought one? Then a mobile wireless card for internet? I have one and can surf etc while driving down the road as long as I have a cell phone signal.

Just a thought, but I felt all along he was getting messages thru comments section of JDNews....could be wrong.

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Lyn_T

Morning all.....Happy Day

If he had the 5,000 when he left would it be possible he took a laptop or bought one? Then a mobile wireless card for internet? I have one and can surf etc while driving down the road as long as I have a cell phone signal.

Just a thought, but I felt all along he was getting messages thru comments section of JDNews....could be wrong. [/*]

I don't know if it was a prediction, or a direct message, or a hacker's interception of the laurean's communication, but it seemed they were going to meet in the vegas area memorial day weekend. JMO

henry

04-11-2008, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Lyn_T

Morning all.....Happy Day

If he had the 5,000 when he left would it be possible he took a laptop or bought one? Then a mobile wireless card for internet? I have one and can surf etc while driving down the road as long as I have a cell phone signal.

Just a thought, but I felt all along he was getting messages thru comments section of JDNews....could be wrong. [/*]

yup . . . hopefully in the news conference we'll hear where he's been staying . . .

and all the comments about cesar's statement . . . i'm not getting warm fuzzies about the love . . . and combine that with what the investigators are saying, if true, about the 12/14 withdrawal = no love here yet . . . imo

n/t

04-11-2008, 08:46 AM

HEAT OF PASSION - A mental state provoked by fear, rage, anger or terror that, combined with adequate provocation, is an element of certain crimes like voluntary manslaughter. Provocation, in order to be adequate, must be such as might naturally cause a reasonable person in the passion of the moment to lose self-control and act on impulse and without reflection. The effect is to to act as an extenuating circumstance that can reduce the severity of the crime charged almost like a defense.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/h008.htm

caejde

04-11-2008, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by henry

yup . . . hopefully in the news conference we'll hear where he's been staying . . .

and all the comments about cesar's statement . . . i'm not getting warm fuzzies about the love . . . and combine that with what the investigators are saying, if true, about the 12/14 withdrawal = no love here yet . . . imo [/*]

I posted in a blog last night he was staying in a rancho...I posted ranchero but that's not what I meant. They didn't know who owned the house. It was from some Fox newsreporter.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by n/t
HEAT OF PASSION - A mental state provoked by fear, rage, anger or terror that, combined with adequate provocation, is an element of certain crimes like voluntary manslaughter. Provocation, in order to be adequate, must be such as might naturally cause a reasonable person in the passion of the moment to lose self-control and act on impulse and without reflection. The effect is to to act as an extenuating circumstance that can reduce the severity of the crime charged almost like a defense.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/h008.htm [/*]

Thank you. We still don't know what the catalyst was on December 14th IMO. Something that day caused someone to completely lose control on that specific day IMO.

I will wait to hear all that REALLY went on that day. JMO.:patriot:

daniel green

04-11-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well being devil's advocate here.....maybe he was simply being truthful. Say that he did honestly love her...and remorseful over killing her in the heat of passion. I always thought something just made him snap that day. :shrug:

In actuality, despite the fact he's been caught, we know nothing more now than we ever did, except for that loving her statement. And that he was in communication with Christina, and that SHE loved HIM, still.

Crazy. :D [/*]

Totally agree with all you said, SS.

I have no time to catch up this morning but just read this and want to say how I agree.

He might and probably did love her.

And yep so far we know nothing more except than how he was living in Mexico and where and that he and Mrs L had been communicating and she still loved him.

daniel green

04-11-2008, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

Yes, he had some very benign answers too and did not lie about his name. I believe he was ready but probably afraid.

snipped. [/*]

He had less than a dollar in his pocket and had been living in an avocado grove and existing by eating fruit he found.

I am sure he was afraid.

daniel green

04-11-2008, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Re the heat of passion......I didn't say "accidentally". (I know you're not responding to my post here, but I wanted to clarify that.) [/*]

I agree. I have always thought that she was killed in the heat of the moment.

But wow, to have him loved her never entered my head.

That makes it change for me, what I thought.

daniel green

04-11-2008, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar
It's entirely possible he loved her. We really don't know the full story yet.

Somebody upthread (I think MW5?) said when he was captured he really looked too tired, beaten down to think of quick lies. I agree. I think we'll be hearing more and more about Maria's and Cesar's relationship. [/*]

ITA

He gave them his name.

They were looking for a kidnapper and CL was walking down the street and looked suspicious and so Mexican police stopped him.

daniel green

04-11-2008, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by caejde

If that's what love is...I sure hate to what hate is! [/*]

People snap. People do terrible things. But that doesn't mean the person could not and did not love.

ETA: I have never been convinced that he was the killer, btw. What I do know is that he is not tried and convicted.

daniel green

04-11-2008, 09:05 AM

Have to go to work this morning but will be back later and I will ck Mexican newspapers and news sources to see if they are reporting anything about this and will translate.

TobyWong

04-11-2008, 09:12 AM

Yes! Finally! I had serious doubts he was even alive until I saw the news early this a.m but can only just now get on the computer.
Good job keeping the thread going every single day people!
I have goosebumps. going to :read: bbl

donna

04-11-2008, 09:13 AM

Good morning, everyone!
What a good day this is!

(glad to see you back, hinman and Sami!)

Maka

04-11-2008, 09:14 AM

http://www.vozdemichoacan.com.mx/secciones/seguridad/seg000623.html

angeleyes67

04-11-2008, 09:15 AM

it was on a matter of time that cesar was captured.when i saw this on nancy grace it was definately premeditated.and why when maria pressed charges nothing happened.maybe she would be alive had they taken her seriously.although hearing her mom or stepmom say maria was a habitual liar.like nancy grace that comment caught me as a odd thing to say when she clearly was missing and very pregnant.im married and if my husband did what cesar did lured maria there and killed her in the home and had several bar bqs to boot.i think i would notice especially if i had to paint over things which was stated his wife did.and that she would whip marias a**.i had heard that to extridite cesar from mexico we might have to take the death penalty off the table.this is most definately a dp case and his wife should be faceing charges to.however will she be given a deal.?we will see.maria and her baby will get justice i just hope that whatever defense attorney he gets doesnt smear marias memory.why to the people who lose there lives deserve more anquish for their families.however im sure they will go down that road.hearing that cesar was caputered this am was good news! no one deserves what this man (more monster) did to her.how do you wrap your mind around the fact a human being could not only kill a woman but his flesh and blood and burn them as though they were trash.he deserves no mercy and his wife she knew question is how could she have covered for him?i love my husband but i tell ya that would be the deal breaker for me.:rose:

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 09:15 AM

I am exhausted, but I can't get it out of my brain. I dreamt all night about it. I wonder if Christina's reaction to the heads up on the arrest will ever be released. As much as I think she's as guilty as ever in this whole mess, I would crawl under a rock if one night people are telling the world i loved my cheating, no-good husband, and the next morning the world hears he loved the other woman. Before this is over, maybe nuttin and i should go to the onslow county cooler and explain to him what love really is. I'm creeped out that there seems to have been no "mourning" of this woman he "loved". And even more creeped out that so far, it seems christina was dwelling on the cheating part, rather than the murder/charred remains in her backyard part. jmo

ktsc

04-11-2008, 09:17 AM

THEY GOT HIM!!!! YES!!!

:beer:

crymeariver2006

04-11-2008, 09:21 AM

I have to leave, but will have the XM to hopefully listen to the pc and any other updates.

Unfortunately it won't show pics, but if mw5 will have a reporter describe the woman in the capris, I will consider it a personal holla!

:D

Maka

04-11-2008, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by donna

Hi, Maka!

I cannot read Spanish. Any idea what the gist of this article is? [/*]

Hi Donna!

http://babelfish.altavista.com

It's pretty much the same as reports in English, but it narrows down the place where he was caught, San Juan de Villa.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar
I think the "he said he loved her" shocked us all more than anything. I don't think any of us EVER expected that.

Oh how interesting this will be....... [/*]

Absolutely but somehow I knew this case was not as it seems.

Did CSL know this was more than just a casual sexual encounter? Did she know it went much deeper than that?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
(CNN) -- U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, the main suspect in the killing of a 20-year-old pregnant Marine, has been captured in Mexico three months after fleeing North Carolina, the FBI announced Thursday.

"I loved her," Laurean told a Mexican reporter who asked whether he killed Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/10...rine/index.html [/*]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bizarre twists and turns is certainly the correct terminology in this case imo.

imo

caejde

04-11-2008, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by daniel green

People snap. People do terrible things. But that doesn't mean the person could not and did not love.

ETA: I have never been convinced that he was the killer, btw. What I do know is that he is not tried and convicted. [/*]

I know people do snap. I'm not convinced he's the killer. I've looked at both sides.

donna

04-11-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I am exhausted, but I can't get it out of my brain. I dreamt all night about it. I wonder if Christina's reaction to the heads up on the arrest will ever be released. As much as I think she's as guilty as ever in this whole mess, I would crawl under a rock if one night people are telling the world i loved my cheating, no-good husband, and the next morning the world hears he loved the other woman. Before this is over, maybe nuttin and i should go to the onslow county cooler and explain to him what love really is. I'm creeped out that there seems to have been no "mourning" of this woman he "loved". And even more creeped out that so far, it seems christina was dwelling on the cheating part, rather than the murder/charred remains in her backyard part. jmo [/*]

Good morning, MW5!

Well, if Christina doesn't realize that Cesar does not love her and has it in print that he loved Maria, I am sure her mother will explain it to her! I know I would!

This is international humiliation for her. She would now have to be wondering what all CAL will tell authorities if she was even the tiniest bit involved in any of it.

:rose: For Maria, Baby Gabriel, and the Lauterbach family. Justice will be served.

henry

04-11-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Maka
http://www.vozdemichoacan.com.mx/secciones/seguridad/seg000623.html [/*]

edit (and this is going to happen a lot today!!! :) ) ignore this please . . . translation please for those of us not able to interpret . . . anyone???

donna

04-11-2008, 09:25 AM

henry

04-11-2008, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Maka

Hi Donna!

http://babelfish.altavista.com

It's pretty much the same as reports in English, but it narrows down the place where he was caught, San Juan de Villa. [/*]

jd news is saying morelia . . . are these places near each other?

http://www.jdnews.com/news/captured_55965___article.html/cesar_laurean.html

caejde

04-11-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by henry

jd news is saying morelia . . . are these places near each other?

http://www.jdnews.com/news/captured_55965___article.html/cesar_laurean.html [/*]

I think the San Juan is the village and the Morelia is something else. Not sure though.

lilCanuck

04-11-2008, 09:30 AM

From the beginning, I've always felt Christina killed maria, and that it was her idea to bury her behind the house, as a constant reminder to Cesar - that she now held his fate in her hands, as he would likely be blamed. I still believe that. Much of the story is still untold, but him now saying "I loved her", speaks volumes.

MoonFlwr

04-11-2008, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by donna

Hi, Maka!

I cannot read Spanish. Any idea what the gist of this article is? [/*]

My partner understands Spanish and just read through the article and translated it for me. There is nothing new there, that hasn't been mentioned in other articles.

Says he was stopped at an anti-kidnapping road block and gave his real name. Because he was acting nervous, authorities entered his name into a database and realised his fugitive status.
The article mentions that Cesar was born in the state he fled to and mentions twice that he could face the death penalty.

StickyBeak

04-11-2008, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by henry

edit (and this is going to happen a lot today!!! :) ) ignore this please . . . translation please for those of us not able to interpret . . . anyone??? [/*]

They stop assassin

IT KILLED ITS COLLEAGUE WHO HAD 8 MONTHS OF PREGNANCY: PGJE; IT WAS MARINE

Sheila Joali Perez / the Voice of MichoacÃ¡n

Police elements assigned to the General Office of the judge advocate general of Justice of Estado (PGJE), captured in TacÃ¡mbaro, to an American citizen who was looked for by the FBI, after which he assassinated his colleague, soldier Maria Lauterback, who counted on 8 months of pregnancy. Marine could reach the capital punishment.

Copyright 2008 La Voz de Michoacán

newbiee

04-11-2008, 09:32 AM

morning everyone. Haven't been on this thread in a while. I almost passed out when I saw that he has been captured.

Strange also that he and his wife have been talking this whole time, and he states "I loved her."

Seems like wifey is more involved in this than she says.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by NCGoldsGal
TGIF has a new meaning this morning. Like MW5 that was the first and only headline I read this morning. I was surprised with the "I love her" There is more to this than we know. [/*]

I certainly agree.

I think he will come back and tell all about their relationship, giving dates and times they were together even if it is to his lawyer's investigators and I am now convinced they did have one. As I have said before we may never understand it but imo it was there. In his notes when he talks of Maria's demeanor it is obvious imo that he knew Maria well and how she normally acted.

imoo

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by lilCanuck
From the beginning, I've always felt Christina killed maria, and that it was her idea to bury her behind the house, as a constant reminder to Cesar - that she now held his fate in her hands, as he would likely be blamed. I still believe that. Much of the story is still untold, but him now saying "I loved her", speaks volumes. [/*]

I wouldn't jump to conclusions over the "I loved her." That doesn't eliminate him as the murderer.

donna

04-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by caejde

I know people do snap. I'm not convinced he's the killer. I've looked at both sides. [/*]

I am with you on this, caejde! I wonder if he will imply that he was not the only one involved. I am sure his lawyers are probably not too happy that he has said he loved Maria.

Here in this country, he would have one phone call, and he could call Christina if he wanted to - the call would not have to be to his lawyer. He would know that his lawyer knows where he is!

****I hope Christina has her mother and stepfather come get Abrianna and keep her out of all of the upheaval that is certainly happening right now.

Maka

04-11-2008, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by henry

jd news is saying morelia . . . are these places near each other?

http://www.jdnews.com/news/captured_55965___article.html/cesar_laurean.html [/*]

Tacambaro/San Juan de Villa is about 45 mins to an hour southwest of Morelia.

lilCanuck

04-11-2008, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

I wouldn't jump to conclusions over the "I loved her." That doesn't eliminate him as the murderer. [/*]

I agree that statement doesn't eliminate him. I still feel as I have always felt though, that Christina is the one that actually killed Maria. reason? makes no sense for him to have killed her - no motive. That and one other thing --- a very old truism "Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned"

AmyO

04-11-2008, 09:43 AM

Ya know I almost posted here yesterday asking again, why is it taking so long to arrest this POS and then lo and behold, they got his a$$!! I was SO happy!! I know there have been folks posting here from the beginning like me and who have taken a break (like me) who will be back and following this case to trial. I'm looking forward to posting with all you great people!!

One thing I thought was very telling. A reporter was interviewing Cesar from the Mexian jail last night and the reporter asked him, "What are you going to do now?" Instead of telling the reporter he was looking forward to going back to the US and profess his innocence, he said, "What CAN I do. I don't know." Nice Cesar - you idiot. Guess it'll be easy to prosecute you. Thank goodness.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by lilCanuck
From the beginning, I've always felt Christina killed maria, and that it was her idea to bury her behind the house, as a constant reminder to Cesar - that she now held his fate in her hands, as he would likely be blamed. I still believe that. Much of the story is still untold, but him now saying "I loved her", speaks volumes. [/*]

Ditto. Time will tell, but if Cesar never threatened Maria during all that time and she didn't fear him, went to his home, WHO IS LEFT TO FEAR?

THE ONE WHO CONFRONTED HER IMO. barf

She was sulking about his CHEATING....gimme that barf guy again.

JMO.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by lilCanuck

I agree that statement doesn't eliminate him. I still feel as I have always felt though, that Christina is the one that actually killed Maria. reason? makes no sense for him to have killed her - no motive. That and one other thing --- a very old truism "Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned" [/*]

Many on here (excluding me :D ) totally agree with you on that; you are in good company. We will see! I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I am just riveted to hear the truth one day.

AmyO

04-11-2008, 09:44 AM

Does anyone know what time the news conference is today?

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by AmyO
Does anyone know what time the news conference is today? [/*]

2:00 Eastern.

lilCanuck

04-11-2008, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Many on here (excluding me :D ) totally agree with you on that; you are in good company. We will see! I don't care if I'm right or wrong, I am just riveted to hear the truth one day. [/*]

I'll second that. No matter what it is.. bottom line is getting to the 'truth'. I guess we're all here on the boardsfor basically the same reason - hoping to see justice done.

AmyO

04-11-2008, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by lilCanuck

I agree that statement doesn't eliminate him. I still feel as I have always felt though, that Christina is the one that actually killed Maria. reason? makes no sense for him to have killed her - no motive. That and one other thing --- a very old truism "Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned" [/*]
What's that old saying..."Never underestimate the rath of a woman scorned." ... or something like that. Women the age of Christina have a hard time keeping their emotions in check when it comes to a cheating partner. I'm willing to bet she had something to do with Maria's death. I am SO looking forward to seeing this case unfold.

Charlotte

04-11-2008, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Maka

Tacambaro/San Juan de Villa is about 45 mins to an hour southwest of Morelia. [/*]

Right -- he was captured in Tacambaro/San Juan de Villa, and then was transported to and was being held at the Michoacan state Attorney General's Office in Morelia, the state capital.

Next move, IIRC what I heard on TV last night, is to Mexico City for the extradition proceedings.

lilCanuck

04-11-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I certainly agree.

I think he will come back and tell all about their relationship, giving dates and times they were together even if it is to his lawyer's investigators and I am now convinced they did have one. As I have said before we may never understand it but imo it was there. In his notes when he talks of Maria's demeanor it is obvious imo that he knew Maria well and how she normally acted.

imoo [/*]

In his notes? What'd I miss? and where can i read them?? please please! :eek:

Maka

04-11-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Charlotte

Right -- he was captured in Tacambaro/San Juan de Villa, and then was transported to and was being held at the Michoacan state Attorney General's Office in Morelia, the state capital.

Next move, IIRC what I heard on TV last night, is to Mexico City for the extradition proceedings. [/*]

Yes, like being arrested in some small town in a county then being brought to the sheriff's office that's in another town, then being transported to a federal facility.

henry

04-11-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by donna

Good morning, MW5!

Well, if Christina doesn't realize that Cesar does not love her and has it in print that he loved Maria, I am sure her mother will explain it to her! I know I would!

This is international humiliation for her. She would now have to be wondering what all CAL will tell authorities if she was even the tiniest bit involved in any of it.

:rose: For Maria, Baby Gabriel, and the Lauterbach family. Justice will be served. [/*]

going back & trying to catch up before errands, it really sunk in when you said "international humiliation" . . . imo that will make xtina talk as well . . . excellent choice of words!

janetlynn

04-11-2008, 10:00 AM

Thank God that he has been captured. Does anyone know if they were able to do DNA on the baby yet? To see if he was the father?

donna

04-11-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by henry

going back & trying to catch up before errands, it really sunk in when you said "international humiliation" . . . imo that will make xtina talk as well . . . excellent choice of words! [/*]

:) ... Good to see you henry!

*yes, that really has to upset her!

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by lilCanuck

In his notes? What'd I miss? and where can i read them?? please please! :eek: [/*]

LOL It was said that in his notes that when Maria came back to his home acting much differently he said that he had never seen Maria act like that before.

That's what I meant. That he knew her normal demeanor and to do that he really had to be around her.

imoo:seeya:

Jan Powell

04-11-2008, 10:08 AM

I'm one that has to say that "he loved her" didn't seem logical to me because of the alleged assault charges. I couldn't get passed that in my thinking.

But I've always thought CSL was heavily involved and maybe the actual murderer. I could eventually be found to be wrong on that too but somehow I doubt it.

I've always thought he would fight extradition, we'll see. I've thought, if he was successful, that he'll take his chances in the courts for trial there and claim he wasn't the murderer but he buried her, etc. In reality there is only 2 people alive that know what happened and he'll roll the dice for a lesser sentence there because he's a Mexican National.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by donna

:) ... Good to see you henry!

*yes, that really has to upset her! [/*]

Or is this why she is still so angry that he cheated on her?

Did she know prior to this happening that this relationship went deeper? Could she have been told that they had been seen together somewhere else after he told her he didn't see Maria anymore?

Just pondering........

imoo

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 10:14 AM

Lynn Gweeny

04-11-2008, 10:17 AM

VIDEO: Cesar Laurean arrested (1:19)
Cesar Laurean, suspected of killing fellow Marine Maria Lauterbach, was apprehended in Mexico.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/04/11/vo.cesar.laurean.arrest.tv%20azteca?iref=videosear ch

Sweetyhide

04-11-2008, 10:20 AM

They don't have anything on the wife yet...

Hudson said Thursday investigators had recently seized a computer belonging to Christina Laurean's sister, which she was using to communicate with her husband. He said he didn't know if that led directly to Laurean's arrest. He declined to discuss the contents of the communications, but authorities have previous said Christina Laurean was cooperating with detectives.

"Just communicating with her husband is not against the law," Hudson said. "To be an accessory after the fact you have to show someone provided assistance like information or money, and we don't have any evidence of that."

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6074380

I have all along given wife the benifit of the doubt.
But I tell ya, there are many points that are making me wonder.

One thing I find interesting to ponder is why he would say "Proof" when asked if he had anything to say.
What the heck is that?

strick10

04-11-2008, 10:20 AM

Oh happy day, oh happy day! My daughter just called me and told me CNN reported that CAL had been found. Now I see he was, thanks Lynn G for the link! "He loved her" ...... this is going to get interesting I'd say.

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 10:22 AM

Thanks Sweety for this link. Looks like talk about Christina's being arrested were very premature.......lol. :D

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 10:24 AM

I'm thinking proof that Christina flipped on him and was leaving him holding the bag for murder all by himself. But that's just a thought.

He's probably gotten tidbits, but the reality of your partner in crime IF THAT IS WHAT CHRISTINA IS, will be a whole nother piece of the pie IMO.

I am not convinced that Christina didn't strike the killer blow and they made a deal. I'm willing to believe she was really that ignorant when we see all the puzzle pieces.

JMO tho.

The only woman I can imagine telling her man she still loves him and closing her eyes after discussing a woman buried in their backyard is a woman WHO HAD HER OWN HAND IN THE DEED.

ALL JMO.:patriot:

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by daniel green

I agree. I have always thought that she was killed in the heat of the moment.

But wow, to have him loved her never entered my head.

That makes it change for me, what I thought. [/*]

I have always thought that too.

Now that he has proclaimed that he loved Maria it makes me think so even more IF he is the one who did it. Love can spark many emotions that aren't present if there absolutely is no attachment to the victim.

I think it is amazing that he knew CSL would hear or read what he had said about Maria yet he said it.

IMO

strick10

04-11-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

I wouldn't jump to conclusions over the "I loved her." That doesn't eliminate him as the murderer. [/*]

You're right SS it doesn't, but, I found it surprising that he would say something like that right off the bat.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

GB where was the "she is still so angry that he cheated on her?" Was that in one of the links last night? TIA. [/*]

Its probably on a CNN transcript now SS.

Hudson was discussing it last night.

imoo

JD81

04-11-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

. [/*]

Sulking about his cheating? I believe she thinks his cheating started this whole thing and she can't get over that. jmo

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I have always thought that too.

Now that he has proclaimed that he loved Maria it makes me think so even more IF he is the one who did it. Love can spark many emotions that aren't present if there absolutely is no attachment to the victim.

I think it is amazing that he knew CSL would hear or read what he had said about Maria yet he said it.

IMO [/*]

I think maybe he was mentally bankrupt and there was no wall of protection up over his shell. JMO tho.

I believe that's why he didn't lie about his name and he had to know the time had come to just surrender and get back to the USA.

JMO tho. :o

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by strick10

You're right SS it doesn't, but, I found it surprising that he would say something like that right off the bat. [/*]

I hear ya. I was shocked, and that's putting it mildly.

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Sweetyhide
They don't have anything on the wife yet...
[/*]
That just goes to show you that Christina got legal advice and knew she could communicate with him without being charged with any crime. imo Oooo - the unraveling of this case is going to be good.

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by JD81

Sulking about his cheating? I believe she thinks his cheating started this whole thing and she can't get over that. jmo [/*]

But but but it was his raping, wasn't it? So you are NOW of the opinion she knew he was cheating on her for Maria?

Just think, we can agree on something finally. :chicken:

Amazing IMO. Just amazing.

There is a dead body in your backyard and you can close your eyes knowing at a minimum that, but you are more worried about cheating.

JMO.

Marcia3

04-11-2008, 10:35 AM

I am astounded, amazed, joyful, and sad.

I missed the capture when it was first breaking news. Woke up around 3:30 this morning when a thunderstorm was rolling through...turned on the TV to see if the local stations were carrying any weather bulletins...flipping through the channels, landed on CNN's re-broadcast of LKL and there it was, big as life, the news of Laurean's capture! Almost fell out of bed!

Fingers are crossed that CAL won't fight his extradition (hoping that Mexican prisons are just as bad as we've heard).

Shocked to hear his words "I loved her." Sick to my stomach for CSL to be publicly and widely humiliated by those words.

Stunned, absolutely stunned, but very excited to be back with my favorite posters.

Nothing will keep me from today's presser!

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by strick10

You're right SS it doesn't, but, I found it surprising that he would say something like that right off the bat. [/*]
I agree with you. I wonder what Christina thought of his revealing his feelings for Maria? A wife would want her husband to proclaim his love for HER, not his lover. I don't think you'll be able to tear me away from this board for a LONG time! LOL! There could be a scenario here none of us ever considered. Oh boy - interesting as we go.

nuttintodo

04-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

GB where was the "she is still so angry that he cheated on her?" Was that in one of the links last night? TIA. [/*]

"It's clear she's still deeply in love with him, and she is vacillating between loving him and being angry at him for not being faithful to her," the official said. "It's not necessarily illegal for a wife to talk to her husband, but if she had tried to help him in any way, there would have been a problem."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/11/missing.marine/index.html

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Sweetyhide

Respectfully snipped.

I have all along given wife the benefit of the doubt.
But I tell ya, there are many points that are making me wonder.

One thing I find interesting to ponder is why he would say "Proof" when asked if he had anything to say.
What the heck is that? [/*]

That one word was the most intriguing of all Sweety.

IMO he is denying doing this to Maria.

What does he know? When did he know it? And will he tell it when he returns?:eek:

I keep thinking of the case that was discussed here before about this woman's boyfriend who testified against her in court saying she murdered her daughter. After 13 years in prison it was found she did not commit the murder.:eek:

imoo

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 10:39 AM

Marcia3

04-11-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

That one word was the most intriguing of all Sweety.

IMO he is denying doing this to Maria.

What does he know? When did he know it? And will he tell it when he returns?:eek:

I keep thinking of the case that was discussed here before about this woman's boyfriend who testified against her in court saying she murdered her daughter. After 13 years in prison it was found she did not commit the murder.:eek:

imoo [/*]

Hey, Ocean. How's that new great-granddaughter? And your DD...she still on the mend? Feels like I've been gone forever.

ITA with you...I think CAL is going to point his finger directly at CSL. Feathers are going to fly, I tell ya!

As for his proclamation of love, it may also be that he has realized a few things during his 91 days on the run, and maybe his feelings have been easier to sort out as of late, IMO.

But we are in for a wild ride on this one, I am sure of that.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by strick10

You're right SS it doesn't, but, I found it surprising that he would say something like that right off the bat. [/*]

As far as we know he didn't even mention Christina, did he?

imoo

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

Ditto.....I have many doubts about who dealt the blow that killed Maria. MANY DOUBTS.:( [/*]
Me too. I was ready to send him up the river but not so fast to do that now. I'm anxious to hear his story. Back to an open mind! haha

Janz

04-11-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Marcia3
I am astounded, amazed, joyful, and sad.

I missed the capture when it was first breaking news. Woke up around 3:30 this morning when a thunderstorm was rolling through...turned on the TV to see if the local stations were carrying any weather bulletins...flipping through the channels, landed on CNN's re-broadcast of LKL and there it was, big as life, the news of Laurean's capture! Almost fell out of bed!

Fingers are crossed that CAL won't fight his extradition (hoping that Mexican prisons are just as bad as we've heard).

Shocked to hear his words "I loved her." Sick to my stomach for CSL to be publicly and widely humiliated by those words.

Stunned, absolutely stunned, but very excited to be back with my favorite posters.

Nothing will keep me from today's presser! [/*]

Glad you made it Marcia.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by nuttintodo

"It's clear she's still deeply in love with him, and she is vacillating between loving him and being angry at him for not being faithful to her," the official said. "It's not necessarily illegal for a wife to talk to her husband, but if she had tried to help him in any way, there would have been a problem."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/11/missing.marine/index.html [/*]

Thank you so much, nuttin! I must have read that......I distinctly remember the "vacillating."

strick10

04-11-2008, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I have always thought that too.

Now that he has proclaimed that he loved Maria it makes me think so even more IF he is the one who did it. Love can spark many emotions that aren't present if there absolutely is no attachment to the victim.

I think it is amazing that he knew CSL would hear or read what he had said about Maria yet he said it.

IMO [/*]
:seeya: GB. Can't even begin to think what CSL will be feeling when she reads/finds out of his proclaimation of love for Maria.

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:42 AM

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 10:42 AM

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 10:44 AM

Marcia3

04-11-2008, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

It's wonderful news!! I'm not getting too excited about the "I loved her" remark. Too many possibilities associated with that: He's lying again or a mistake in translation are all possibilities, imo.

:seeya: [/*]

Reggie...good to see ya! And good point on the I loved her thing...just can't imagine that he would utter those words at that time...and expect anyone to believe him given the circumstances.

Here's the Dayton Daily News link on the story. Nothing new, but there are more pictures linked from this site.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/11/ddn041108laureanweb.html

marinewife5

04-11-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

The word "proof" doesn't indicate to me denying he did it to Maria. [/*]

I think it fortells of his turning on christina. i'm not saying he'll be truthful, i just think he knows he's not the only one who fits the crime. jmo

nuttintodo

04-11-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Thank you so much, nuttin! I must have read that......I distinctly remember the "vacillating." [/*]

The official is Dewey Hudson...I just checked the abcnews article and his name is quoted saying the same exact words.

I also heard him saying basically the same thing last night on both CNN and Greta.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Marcia3

Hey, Ocean. How's that new great-granddaughter? And your DD...she still on the mend? Feels like I've been gone forever.

ITA with you...I think CAL is going to point his finger directly at CSL. Feathers are going to fly, I tell ya!

As for his proclamation of love, it may also be that he has realized a few things during his 91 days on the run, and maybe his feelings have been easier to sort out as of late, IMO.

But we are in for a wild ride on this one, I am sure of that. [/*]

Well great to see you back Marcia, you have been missed.

That is a very big statement to make knowing that Christina will learn of it. He proclaims his love for Maria and doesn't even mention his wife as far as I know.

I have always felt ML and CL's relationship went much deeper.

He knows this will turn her against him even more but he seems not to care. Does he have an ace in his pocket along with the 10 pesos? lol Can he lay out this crime succintly......and he knows it will line up with the evidence found and knows that none of it proves he is the one who did this but someone else?

Something definitely is going on that we don't know and oh yes, it is going to be many bizarre twists and turns.

imoo

Pinetree

04-11-2008, 10:49 AM

Maybe he's still sticking to the "Maria committed suicide" excuse.....saying he loved her fits with that lie.

JD81

04-11-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES

But but but it was his raping, wasn't it? So you are NOW of the opinion she knew he was cheating on her for Maria?

Just think, we can agree on something finally. :chicken:

Amazing IMO. Just amazing.

There is a dead body in your backyard and you can close your eyes knowing at a minimum that, but you are more worried about cheating.

JMO. [/*]

Did I say he didn't rape her? No telling what he is saying to Christina now.
:chicken:

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5

I think it fortells of his turning on christina. i'm not saying he'll be truthful, i just think he knows he's not the only one who fits the crime. jmo [/*]

Gosh one little word. :cool:

"Proof."

Maybe he meant, "Geez, I give up....you have me.....you have the proof."

But......of course you could be right MW. I am a hold out. I still think he is guilty as charged and Christina will be shown to have not been involved.

Can't WAIT for the bumpy ride for all of us!

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
Maybe he's still sticking to the "Maria committed suicide" excuse.....saying he loved her fits with that lie. [/*]
Oooo - Pinetree - that's a possibility too! Didn't think of that one....

Pinetree

04-11-2008, 10:52 AM

Hudson said the FBI is still going over the computer that CL used to communicate with hubby.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by AmyO

Me too. I was ready to send him up the river but not so fast to do that now. I'm anxious to hear his story. Back to an open mind! haha [/*]

Me too.

I just think he really does have something to tell and it may clear a lot of things up.

imoo

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
Maybe he's still sticking to the "Maria committed suicide" excuse.....saying he loved her fits with that lie. [/*]

Good point, Pine. Also, it could be a planted remark, hoping that Christina will see it and turn on him. I am very skeptical about this "I love you" statement.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

Good point, Pine. Also, it could be a planted remark, hoping that Christina will see it and turn on him. I am very skeptical about this "I love you" statement. [/*]

I don't think he was plotting out his defense when he was caught last night.

They said he was subdued, gaunt, tired and hungry. I think he answered the questions truthfully.

I think he has had three months to realize running is not the answer especially if it was to protect someone else.

imoo

strick10

04-11-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
Hudson said the FBI is still going over the computer that CL used to communicate with hubby. [/*]
Wonder if LE already knew she was using this computer to make contact, perhaps they set it up or if they are surprised to find out that CSL had been in contact w/ him period.

donna

04-11-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

Or is this why she is still so angry that he cheated on her?

Did she know prior to this happening that this relationship went deeper? Could she have been told that they had been seen together somewhere else after he told her he didn't see Maria anymore?

Just pondering........

imoo [/*]

Sounds reasonable to me, GB! I am sure she knew what Maria's car looked like, and may have known they had been shooting pool together and so on.
Now, if she had read ******'s remarks, she would have been fuming about those also. Of course, that would have been after Maria was killed and after CAL went on the run. Fodder for her diary.
I wonder if Christina told Cesar how many people have thought she was so involved herself?
Now that Cesar has told the world he loved Maria, she just does not know what to think. She locked herself into her story of what she knew or did not know of Maria's murder when she took Cesar's notes to LE. She cannot change her story now without having to admit she lied.
Cesar and Christina did not just stumble across each other on the Internet. They had to have planned their means of communicating with each other before he left. That is something the 'cooperating witness failed to tell LE, isn't it?
GB, I was really thinking CAL was no longer alive - then boom - here he is!

AmyO

04-11-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I don't think he was plotting out his defense when he was caught last night.

They said he was subdued, gaunt, tired and hungry. I think he answered the questions truthfully.

I think he has had three months to realize running is not the answer especially if it was to protect someone else.

imoo [/*]
I think you are spot on here. No way this was a set up remark. imo

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Gosh one little word. :cool:

"Proof."

Maybe he meant, "Geez, I give up....you have me.....you have the proof."

But......of course you could be right MW. I am a hold out. I still think he is guilty as charged and Christina will be shown to have not been involved.

Can't WAIT for the bumpy ride for all of us! [/*]

I thought they asked him what he wanted and he said "proof.":shrug:

imoo

donna

04-11-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Thank you so much, nuttin! I must have read that......I distinctly remember the "vacillating." [/*]

Hi, SS! I remember it also!

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by AmyO

I think you are spot on here. No way this was a set up remark. imo [/*]

It does give us hope that he will talk. He could have stood there and said nothing.

imoo

n/t

04-11-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I don't think he was plotting out his defense when he was caught last night.

They said he was subdued, gaunt, tired and hungry. I think he answered the questions truthfully.

I think he has had three months to realize running is not the answer especially if it was to protect someone else.

imoo [/*]

He also may have planned what to say if he ever got caught.

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I don't think he was plotting out his defense when he was caught last night.

They said he was subdued, gaunt, tired and hungry. I think he answered the questions truthfully.

I think he has had three months to realize running is not the answer especially if it was to protect someone else.

imoo [/*]
You misunderstood my post. I meant that LE planted the "I love you" statement in order to get Christina to turn on him. laurean may not have said it at all.

flipflop

04-11-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I thought they asked him what he wanted and he said "proof.":shrug:

imoo [/*]

“You know my name. You know who I am,” Laurean said. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean answered, “Proof,” but wouldn’t explain.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24057875

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 11:03 AM

Missti

04-11-2008, 11:03 AM

I was all grumbly this morning getting ready for work...wanting to be home to play here and keep up with the thread.

Got to work...and an hour into the day they sent us home..SNOW DAY!! What is the chance of THAT happening in APRIL??

So...made my way home...got my coffee..and caught up on the reading...keep posting now...I am ready :D

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

I thought they asked him what he wanted and he said "proof.":shrug:

imoo [/*]
That makes more sense to me and another thing that leads me to believe he has a story to tell that MAY show he didn't kill Maria. The problem for me is being patient until all this comes out! LOL

Marcia3

04-11-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

It does give us hope that he will talk. He could have stood there and said nothing.

imoo [/*]

And most of the pictures I have seen of him, he looks defeated and small. There's one where he is smiling and looks relieved. All JMO of course.

donna

04-11-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by strick10
Oh happy day, oh happy day! My daughter just called me and told me CNN reported that CAL had been found. Now I see he was, thanks Lynn G for the link! "He loved her" ...... this is going to get interesting I'd say. [/*]

:D ... Hi, strick10! Great day indeed!

Pinetree

04-11-2008, 11:05 AM

In those pics of him in custody.....his t-shirt sleeves are rolled up so police can get photos of his tattoos.

I don't know how LE found out about the computer. Did the sister rat out CL?

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by flipflop

“You know my name. You know who I am,” Laurean said. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean answered, “Proof,” but wouldn’t explain.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24057875 [/*]

Thanks!

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by AmyO

That makes more sense to me and another thing that leads me to believe he has a story to tell that MAY show he didn't kill Maria. The problem for me is being patient until all this comes out! LOL [/*]

Well, as I am waiting with bated breath for laurean to start spinning his tale, I'm keeping in mind that this is the person who told MC investigators "I never had sex with Maria."

:cool:

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Missti
I was all grumbly this morning getting ready for work...wanting to be home to play here and keep up with the thread.

Got to work...and an hour into the day they sent us home..SNOW DAY!! What is the chance of THAT happening in APRIL??

So...made my way home...got my coffee..and caught up on the reading...keep posting now...I am ready :D [/*]
WOW! You must be leading a good life to receive a gift such as a SNOW DAY! Good for you! Get comfortable in front of your computer and post away!

flipflop

04-11-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Thanks! [/*]

Welcome. Just happened to be reading the article when I saw GB's post. :)

Missti

04-11-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by AmyO

WOW! You must be leading a good life to receive a gift such as a SNOW DAY! Good for you! Get comfortable in front of your computer and post away! [/*]

I am all comfy...but I gots' nuttin' to say :shrug:

Regina.Lampert

04-11-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
In those pics of him in custody.....his t-shirt sleeves are rolled up so police can get photos of his tattoos.

I don't know how LE found out about the computer. Did the sister rat out CL? [/*]
I want to know the probable cause used to get the computer search warrants. That will tell us much, especially in light of the statement by Hudson that just talking with her husband is not against any law.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

You misunderstood my post. I meant that LE planted the "I love you" statement in order to get Christina to turn on him. laurean may not have said it at all. [/*]

Oh..sorry.

But I dont think so. I think he said it.

JMO tho

Lynn Gweeny

04-11-2008, 11:09 AM

Missing Marine Captured (4:22)
Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, the alleged killer of a pregnant marine, was found in Mexico where authorities caught him after a three-month manhunt. Jeff Glor reports. (Includes interview with Capt. Sutherland with the Early Show on CBS)

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4008457n

JD81

04-11-2008, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by AmyO

That makes more sense to me and another thing that leads me to believe he has a story to tell that MAY show he didn't kill Maria. The problem for me is being patient until all this comes out! LOL [/*]

I'm thinking his defense could be anything.
His love for Maria made him kill her? His love for Maria made Christina kill her?

Whatever he has to say should be interesting. Of course, whatever he said to Christina in those emails could be very interesting also.

jmo

:chicken:

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

Well, as I am waiting with bated breath for laurean to start spinning his tale, I'm keeping in mind that this is the person who told MC investigators "I never had sex with Maria."

:cool: [/*]
True - but maybe he was afraid of his wife. Maybe he wasn't all that tough. Just thinkin'....

But then again, why the use of her ATM card?? Oh - I don't know! :)

strick10

04-11-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by donna

:D ... Hi, strick10! Great day indeed! [/*]

:seeya: Donna. Hope you're ready for the ride it's going to be an interesting one.

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
In those pics of him in custody.....his t-shirt sleeves are rolled up so police can get photos of his tattoos.

I don't know how LE found out about the computer. Did the sister rat out CL? [/*]

Hudson seemed very guarded by how they knew to get a SW to enter the premises to obtain the computer......her diaries and IIRC she had written him letters too that the FBI found. I guess she hadn't mail them yet.

imoo

Missti

04-11-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by strick10

:seeya: Donna. Hope you're ready for the ride it's going to be an interesting one. [/*]

I still think....his wife wanted him to kill her...to show her it was OVER and that she didn't mean anything to him.

She helped cover it up...and helped him flee. Gave him that head start he needed.

Not sure why I think that...but I had that feeling from the very beginning.

Wonder if we will ever know the REAL truth??

strick10

04-11-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

I want to know the probable cause used to get the computer search warrants. That will tell us much, especially in light of the statement by Hudson that just talking with her husband is not against any law. [/*]

I too would like to know what probable cause was used.

Sherlocksmom

04-11-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by SavannahStar

Well IIRC you all thought they had a relationship......as I did....I don't remember you guys saying you thought he actually loved her. I could have missed it though.

Do you want a grand prize? :D [/*]

LMAO :lol: I missed your humor SS!

Pinetree

04-11-2008, 11:13 AM

Been looking but can't find it....did Hudson say last night that they had intel showing Laurean was in Vegas to visit his parents and he, Hudson, was disappointed that he wasn't caught? If so, maybe that's something on the computer. Laurean telling his wife about it?

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:15 AM

I'm watching CNN and they just had his arrest on there again. He's just standing there with two LE officers and there are cameras going off all around him. One camera almost went up his nose! He's just standing there letting them film him as much as they want to; getting shots from every angle. Expressionless. Staring straight ahead. I wonder how long he actually stood there?

Lynn Gweeny

04-11-2008, 11:15 AM

Maria's mother, Mary Lauterbach, said Friday that a sheriff telephoned her with news of Laurean's capture, but did not have many details.

"I'm anxious for the truth to come out and for justice to be done. That's all I would ever ask for," Lauterbach told The Associated Press as she was backing out of her driveway at the Vandalia, Ohio, home where Maria grew up.

"This has been a terrible tragedy, not only for our family but for Cesar ... and Laurean's family. We pray for them at this time. They are very much in our thoughts," she said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAxQfkotgyOSgs3LXmXYW6hy6PgD8VVMNRG0

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Marcia3

And most of the pictures I have seen of him, he looks defeated and small. There's one where he is smiling and looks relieved. All JMO of course. [/*]

He probably is relieved. I have been thinking.......I don't think he tried to get further assistance from anyone but CSL after he left.

His family seems to be important to him. He told CSL that he wanted to go see his parents in LV. I don't think he would have contacted them because he knew they would be in trouble if they helped him.

He was probably relieved that he was going to have a bunk to sleep on and food to eat.

imoo

Sherlocksmom

04-11-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by RiverWalk
BECAUSE CL said "I loved her" you are now buying his BS?

CL only loved and cared about himself. HIS actions proved that, imo. CL ever once "man'd up". He's still being a chicken S***, imo. [/*]

I was wondering that myself. Thats a classic plea for sympathy i have seen too many times. Textbook example actually. :read:

JD81

04-11-2008, 11:17 AM

CS just said on CNN a couple of weeks ago they developed intel about an area where Cesar was. Since that is when they had Christina's computer information, I think that is what they were going with. I think Christina unwittingly helped to get him.

jmo

bkwits

04-11-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert

LOL, believing this liar just because he says "I loved her" how utterly absurd!

This is a wonderful day, now let's see if this POS fights extradition. If he does, it could take a year or more to get him
back here for trial. But, that is a hard year in a Mexican prison.
Gonna be interesting to see what he does.

I am very glad that eventually there will be a trial, but at trial, imo,
the real attack on this poor victim will begin. Once laurean has access to his legal team, a story will be weaved that will make the
attacks on Maria from this board seem like childsplay. IMO. :cuss:

Don't forget, press conference at 2:00 p.m. and let's hope Brown isn't the one giving it.

[/*]

Hey Reggie :seeya:

ITA with everything in your post.

but at least it's a HAPPY, HAPPY DAY

that he is captured.

Amy S.

04-11-2008, 11:20 AM

IF he said that he loved Maria, that is really strange. (But, CNN has been wrong before. And were they speaking English or Spanish? Maybe something was lost in translation.)

Someone suggested early on that perhaps Christina killed Maria in a jealous rage, or berated Cesar into the murder. I think there is a lot of twists and turns, yet to come.

Don't forget that Cesar is a Mexican citizen. Perhaps he thought that he had a better chance at fleeing than Christina would have.

I hope the Lauterbachs get some answers.

:patriot:

Lynn Gweeny

04-11-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Pinetree
Been looking but can't find it....did Hudson say last night that they had intel showing Laurean was in Vegas to visit his parents and he, Hudson, was disappointed that he wasn't caught? If so, maybe that's something on the computer. Laurean telling his wife about it? [/*]

Last paragraph of this article:

"We had intel that he had gone back to America to visit his family in Las Vegas and I was hoping they would arrest him in America," Hudson said. "But they didn't. This is a case that certainly is deserving to be tried as a capital case."

http://cbs3.com/topstories/FBI.Marine.murder.2.697202.html

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by AnnieBean

Henry, can you beleive this day has come????

I am BEYOND happy but have two things I am wondering about (you remember I was one who thought xtina had a big hand in this...) he said two things

"I loved her" (regarding Maria) and
"Proof"

what does that mean? I wonder? [/*]
Hi AnnieBean! Good to see you. I was giving up hope they would catch him. Maybe they'll find Stacy Peterson soon too. That will be another great day.

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

LMAO :lol: I missed your humor SS! [/*]

Thank you. :tongue: :hat:

donna

04-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by strick10

:seeya: Donna. Hope you're ready for the ride it's going to be an interesting one. [/*]

:) .... got a seat belt on this chair at my desk!

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Maria's mother, Mary Lauterbach, said Friday that a sheriff telephoned her with news of Laurean's capture, but did not have many details.

"I'm anxious for the truth to come out and for justice to be done. That's all I would ever ask for," Lauterbach told The Associated Press as she was backing out of her driveway at the Vandalia, Ohio, home where Maria grew up.

"This has been a terrible tragedy, not only for our family but for Cesar ... and Laurean's family. We pray for them at this time. They are very much in our thoughts," she said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAxQfkotgyOSgs3LXmXYW6hy6PgD8VVMNRG0 [/*]

Wow........her statement is puzzling. I can see her offering sympathies to the Laurean family who are innocent in all of this but......

to say..............

"This has been a terrible tragedy, not only for our family but for Cesar" ... :eek:

imoo

JD81

04-11-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by AmyO
I'm watching CNN and they just had his arrest on there again. He's just standing there with two LE officers and there are cameras going off all around him. One camera almost went up his nose! He's just standing there letting them film him as much as they want to; getting shots from every angle. Expressionless. Staring straight ahead. I wonder how long he actually stood there? [/*]

I saw that too. Right up his nose! He looked like he was in a daze. First sign of insanity defense?

I seem to remember many posters making fun of the beard picture released. It was sure close enough. Seems they did know Cesar had one. jmo

Pinetree

04-11-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny

Last paragraph of this article:

"We had intel that he had gone back to America to visit his family in Las Vegas and I was hoping they would arrest him in America," Hudson said. "But they didn't. This is a case that certainly is deserving to be tried as a capital case."

http://cbs3.com/topstories/FBI.Marine.murder.2.697202.html [/*]

You found it! Thanks! :)

GentleBreeze

04-11-2008, 11:23 AM

Missti

04-11-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by AnnieBean

He was caught by accident/ did they get SW and execute it on CL's sisters computer BEFORE or after he was nabbed?

Maybe she got mail too? What the heck- they were emailing back and forth! He didn't stay in that avocado grove ALL the time if he was emailing!!! [/*]

Oh yeah..he had the laptop plugged up his A$$ for power...while sitting in an Avocado grove :rolleyes:

He was staying with SOMEONE for these three months...but of course he isn't going to say that and have THEM be charged for hiding him...he will lie and protect his family and friends.

He looked pretty darn clean for someone who has lived in the fields for 90 days.

nuttintodo

04-11-2008, 11:24 AM

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Marcia3

And most of the pictures I have seen of him, he looks defeated and small. There's one where he is smiling and looks relieved. All JMO of course. [/*]

Same here Marcia. We have to remember he is/was 20 years old and doesn't have all the years of knowledge most criminals have. I still believe this was a heat of the moment killing no matter who inflicted the blow(s) killing Maria.

But I am really leaning toward Christina coming home and finding them there being the catalyst either way. JMOOC.

:(

It would by far be the most ill planned murder I have ever heard of if it turned out to be planned. Really, could you get any more ignorant with an ocean thirty minutes away? :shrug:

Land Shark®

04-11-2008, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Missti

I still think....his wife wanted him to kill her...to show her it was OVER and that she didn't mean anything to him.

She helped cover it up...and helped him flee. Gave him that head start he needed.

snipped

I agree.

No way Christina murdered Maria.

She would be in custody at this very moment.

Think about it... Laurean has been captured. If law enforcement was using Christina to find him... they don't need her for that anymore. Ergo, if she was involved with the murder itself... she would be in custody right now.

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:25 AM

I thought they already determined that Cesar was the father of Maria's baby. Apparently that hasn't happened yet? Guess they needed Cesar to provide a DNA sample but I thought they were able to get something from his home. Anyone know for sure?

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by nuttintodo

Annie remember the 'raid' rumor from a couple of weeks ago? That's when Amber's computer and CSL's diary were seized....

Dewey confirmed that last night.

jmo [/*]

AND I CAN TELL you there are three posters here I confirmed some of that with even tho nothing was showing up.

He had people he spoke with who SAW IT GOING DOWN....yes, they got the goods right then nutty IMO.

I am sure her parents want to SCREAM ABOUT NOW and I hope they are planning on really watching her with that baby girl. JMO again. :patriot:

bkwits

04-11-2008, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by marinewife5
I am exhausted, but I can't get it out of my brain. I dreamt all night about it. I wonder if Christina's reaction to the heads up on the arrest will ever be released. As much as I think she's as guilty as ever in this whole mess, I would crawl under a rock if one night people are telling the world i loved my cheating, no-good husband, and the next morning the world hears he loved the other woman. Before this is over, maybe nuttin and i should go to the onslow county cooler and explain to him what love really is. I'm creeped out that there seems to have been no "mourning" of this woman he "loved". And even more creeped out that so far, it seems christina was dwelling on the cheating part, rather than the murder/charred remains in her backyard part. jmo [/*]

I agree MW, CL and Ctina seem to be two creepy people. IF CL killed Maria and Gabriel, which I think he did, IMO it was an act of anger and revenge. I didn't see remorse in his actions. JMO

henry

04-11-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by AnnieBean

Henry, can you beleive this day has come????

I am BEYOND happy but have two things I am wondering about (you remember I was one who thought xtina had a big hand in this...) he said two things

"I loved her" (regarding Maria) and
"Proof"

what does that mean? I wonder? [/*]

yup . . . it's finally here . . . and kinda scary watching the videos, even though he's in handcuffs - thanks LG!!!!

i'm waiting for the news conference before forming an opinion here . . . hah! take that one to the bank :). off to do errands (i've been saying that for an hour!)!

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Missti

Oh yeah..he had the laptop plugged up his A$$ for power...while sitting in an Avocado grove :rolleyes:

He was staying with SOMEONE for these three months...but of course he isn't going to say that and have THEM be charged for hiding him...he will lie and protect his family and friends.

He looked pretty darn clean for someone who has lived in the fields for 90 days. [/*]
Yeah - he sure did look pretty well kept considering they wanted us to believe he'd been living in the avodado grove for months. Maybe he had a Honda generator for power to his laptop. HA!

snowshuze

04-11-2008, 11:28 AM

I'm wondering if some of those communications from Christina to Laurean via computer had to do with tactics.
For example....informing him he had volunteer attorneys, strategies about how to turn himself in, what to say concerning media, etc, etc.

Maybe him saying "he loved her" is a ploy they BOTH cooked up? Because I think Christina is in this up to her eyeballs.
MOO and stuff.

Missti

04-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Her Mom is on CNN right now!

SavannahStar

04-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by GentleBreeze

Wow........her statement is puzzling. I can see her offering sympathies to the Laurean family who are innocent in all of this but......

to say..............

"This has been a terrible tragedy, not only for our family but for Cesar" ... :eek:

imoo [/*]

I ditto that------->:eek:

CANDYKISSES

04-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by AmyO
I thought they already determined that Cesar was the father of Maria's baby. Apparently that hasn't happened yet? Guess they needed Cesar to provide a DNA sample but I thought they were able to get something from his home. Anyone know for sure? [/*]

That has not been confirmed tho many suspect such.

The USMC sent a letter to Congressman Turner, who couldn't give the answer out, but piece mealed it out yesterday. In that letter it states that Maria claimed the child was not that of CL on November 5th IIRC.

I have my doubts but will wait it out just like everyone else.

JMO.:shrug:

AmyO

04-11-2008, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Land Shark®

I agree.

No way Christina murdered Maria.

She would be in custody at this very moment.

Think about it... Laurean has been captured. If law enforcement was using Christina to find him... they don't need her for that anymore. Ergo, if she was involved with the murder itself... she would be in custody right now. [/*]
Well, I sure can see your point but who knows what will happen once Cesar gets back here and starts talking. Things could change very quickly in the next few weeks.