Friday 04-11-08 ***** (5 star day)

[AmyO]

Originally posted by court~critic1®
Please for those of us that can not get video please, (with sugar on it), lets us know what is said. TIA!

I saved my 1000 post just for you. ;) [/*]
Hey!! Congrats!!

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
NBC17 is LIVE at the microphones waiting and doing their routine checks.

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/home.html [/*]
Excellent. Got it up now. Thanks Lynn!

[caejde]

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg
Wasn't she at Lowe's with him buying paint? Or was he with another guy. I forget. :o [/*]

With a guy.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Sami


Thanks, Lynn.

I'm looking for Ms. White Capris. :D [/*]
I missed her last time. If she shows up, point her out, will ya? LOL!

[court~critic1®]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


:rose: Congratulations! [/*]


thanks

I thought I had quoted you, but the tabs on my screen are so small now that even with my reading glasses I can't see them. lol


Do you think it will take several years before they get to bring back this sub-human to the US? I sure do. moo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Umm, he didn't say he had been sleeping in fields and eating berries and avocados for three months. [/*]
And it makes me wonder just where he has been, until he ran out of money.

[Janz]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
NBC17 is LIVE at the microphones waiting and doing their routine checks.

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/home.html [/*]

Thanks Lynn, This one is working for me!

[Tacori]

Originally posted by Sami


Thanks, Lynn.

I'm looking for Ms. White Capris. :D [/*]

:biggrin:

[TobyWong]

I feel like elmo running reading catching up in time for pc..whew..
Thanks lynn for the links! So many varying theories....oh LIVE

[AmyO]

Originally posted by tbrito1
getting started now!! [/*]
Hope they spill the beans and give us some details!

[alter ego]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Umm, he didn't say he had been sleeping in fields and eating berries and avocados for three months. [/*]

A Marine suspected of killing a pregnant colleague told police he slept in fields and survived by eating fruit that he found during a three-month manhunt that ended with his arrest in western Mexico, authorities said.

http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880411006

[lilCanuck]

ohh it's our sherriff

[AmyO]

Oh come on Sheriff! Get on with it. We don't really care about the other dude....

[BarbraAllen]

Sheriff Brown:

Will stick close to script, has handout for reporters.

Praises Cpt. Southerland. Says RS has a new baby girl.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Wooo Hoooo Capt. Sutherland became the proud father of a baby girl on the day that Cesar Laurean was captured.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by alter ego


A Marine suspected of killing a pregnant colleague told police he slept in fields and survived by eating fruit that he found during a three-month manhunt that ended with his arrest in western Mexico, authorities said.

http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880411006 [/*]

Would you take that literally? :read:

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by AmyO
Oh come on Sheriff! Get on with it. We don't really care about the other dude.... [/*]

Oh God, why him? I want to hear from Hudson.

Oh good, here is Rick Sutherland.

[Leanne Weich]

Saw CL on the news last night because I can't view pictures on my computer but I must say I think the FBI must have had inside info. regarding his beard and mustache. Just not quite as wooly as in the identikit, imo.

[SavannahStar]

I love that sheriff.

[AmyO]

Per Sheriff: Cesar is not an animal. Um - really?? Sure acted like one if he was the one who killed Maria.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Would you take that literally? :read: [/*]That he was living hand to mouth for the 3 months he was on the lamb? Yes.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Sami


Sutherland looks even younger, if that's possible. :D [/*]

He does and is such a pleasure to listen to: clear and consise.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Sami


Sutherland looks even younger, if that's possible. :D [/*]

Don't get too excited Sami, he's a new daddy. :o Behave.

:rose: For Babygirl Sutherland

jmo

[SavannahStar]

RS said Christina is STILL and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a cooperating witness.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by tbrito1


enough with the thank you's!!! GIVE US JUICY DETAILS will ya??? [/*]
That's what i was thinking. We know all this stuff already.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by AmyO
Per Sheriff: Cesar is not an animal. Um - really?? Sure acted like one if he was the one who killed Maria. [/*]
Actually I'll agree with him ~ an animal wouldn't have put her in a pit and burned her. :)

[duncan]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
I love that sheriff. [/*]


I love sheriff Brown too.

[CANDYKISSES]

While he is saying that, I am of the belief he is NOT saying charges could not be forthcoming if they find her to be in violation of the law IMO.

I wonder if the lawyer advised her on what was okay and what was not okay. I think if it was here in MD, I'd be in jail for osbtructing justice, but JMO. :shrug:

I would have to call Pag to get my bail. ;)

[aubrey04]

Poll Question, Did you think they would find Cesar Laurean this quickly?

[Destini]

Extradition could take a few days or a few years??

[AmyO]

OMG! They didn't tell us anything we didn't already know! They're taking questions already!

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by tbrito1


that/this just doesn't sound right!!! how can they have confidence in her, or could it be that as part of the agreement it was a set up? [/*]

I think the time will come and we will see them sticking a fork in her and letting us know she's done IMO.

They are keeping her while she is useful, but the time will come and that will not be a consideration any longer IMO.

:patriot:

[JD81]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
RS said Christina is STILL and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a cooperating witness. [/*]

Still no charges up and including today.:o

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Destini
Extradition could take a few days or a few years?? [/*]Yes, a few days if it isn't fought - a few years if it is....

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
Oh yeah, he might as well say she is cooked. [/*]

As soon as they are done with her IMO. :patriot:

They must need to keep it to their advantage at this point from my POV.

JMO.:chicken:

[AmyO]

Originally posted by tbrito1


well this sucked!!!!!:cuss: [/*]
yep - I agree. all the hoopla for nothing. They don't want to say anything pending trial. I get it but come on! throw us a bone! LOL

[court~critic1®]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
RS said Christina is STILL and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a cooperating witness. [/*]


Do you think she gave the LE all or some of the communications she has had with CL? Is that why they needed to get a search warrent to take the puter? TIA

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Destini
Extradition could take a few days or a few years?? [/*]
I heard that earlier today too it depends on if he fights extradition or not.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
The sheriff is an idiot. JMO. FBI caught Cesar, not the sheriff. [/*]
LOL, Brown is getting defensive again. :tongue:

[SavannahStar]

She won't be charged. Dewey says she's very torn. He is saying it all very well.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
RS said Christina is STILL and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a cooperating witness. [/*]

But...kept saying still investigating...at this time...desision of DA.
Sounds to me a round about way of saying she's not off the hook yet.
jMO

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Sami
Christine still loves him.

She is torn. . . . . [/*]
Heard that. Nice we have a puke emoticon. barf

[AlohaRainbow]

Originally posted by tbrito1


that/this just doesn't sound right!!! how can they have confidence in her, or could it be that as part of the agreement it was a set up? [/*]
i just heard one snippet (don't even know who said it) but someone said that the investigations into the murder and the fugitive fleeing were both ongoing, and that if any information was uncovered that implicated others in either the murder or the fugitive flight, then charges would be brought.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by JD81


Still no charges up and including today.:o [/*]

That's right and just now I was impressed with Hudson's defense of Christina's still having love for her husband.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Sami
Christine still loves him.

She is torn. . . . . [/*]

By what he said and his demeanor speaking about Christina, I think he has sympathy for her and possibly even likes her. I don't think she will be charged with anything. I get that feeling.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by court~critic1®



Do you think she gave the LE all or some of the communications she has had with CL? Is that why they needed to get a search warrent to take the puter? TIA [/*]
It doesn't make sense that she was "cooperating". If she was communicating with him for LE why would she have to go use her sister's computer and then why would LE have to seize it? I don't think that's how LE works.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
He was so way over his head on this one. JMO.

Where are you guys watching this? [/*]
Fox News

[JanDoe]

I wonder if Christina told LE that he was contacting her......
and they asked her to continue to help them locate him....
What if she was cooperating with LE and has alot to do with
them learning his location?

What if Christina betrayed Cesar and they don't want him
to find that info out yet?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


That's right and just now I was impressed with Hudson's defense of Christina's still having love for her husband. [/*]

Me too.

[Janz]

Originally posted by Oregongal


But...kept saying still investigating...at this time...desision of DA.
Sounds to me a round about way of saying she's not off the hook yet.
jMO [/*]

Thank you very much, that`s how I read it! They are waiting until Cesar starts singing like a bird....

[akika666]

:cuss: good lord I hope it doesnt take "years" to extradite him.

[Marcia3]

Oh brother! CSL denied resources to CAL 'cuz she was told by her atty to deny him!

She is not stupid...IMO.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Sami
Christine still loves him.

She is torn. . . . . [/*]
Oh I can hardly wait to see Nancy tonight! She'll have the perfect response ~ "boo-hoo". :D

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
He was so way over his head on this one. JMO.

Where are you guys watching this? [/*]

I'm watching here Dunnie!

http://media.mgnetwork.com/nct/images/section_headers/live_video.jpg

[VC2]

christina denied him any resources when asked, and told him its against the law for her as per RS

also as per RS they recieved cooperation from family, specifically christina that led to arrest.

sounds like she was not involved

imo

[AmyO]

Here comes Christina's attorney!

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
She won't be charged. Dewey says she's very torn. He is saying it all very well. [/*]

But that is BASED ON what HE KNOWS NOW. We have no idea what may be out there he doesn't know YET IMO.

I don't see today as any different from yesterday in her status.

Yes, she has been advised in how close to that line she can go and she went right to the line but didn't give up the money IMO.

I have no faith in her being blind to all of this. She was smart enough to figure out HOW SHE COULD get around the LAW and still have contact with her man as she sees him IMO.

I wonder how her parents feel about this?

Her attorney now....:D

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by tbrito1


but they just said that she failed to tell LE that she was in contact with him.... [/*]

I missed that!

[AmyO]

Originally posted by sunstar

Oh I can hardly wait to see Nancy tonight! She'll have the perfect response ~ "boo-hoo". :D [/*]
Oh yeah - she'll be in rare form tonight!!

[wandering]

Originally posted by JanDoe
I wonder if Christina told LE that he was contacting her......
and they asked her to continue to help them locate him....
What if she was cooperating with LE and has alot to do with
them learning his location?

What if Christina betrayed Cesar and they don't want him
to find that info out yet? [/*]The sheriff said they would have preferred to apprehend him when he went to Las Vegas. It was another agency that apprehended him, in Mexico.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by AmyO
Here comes Christina's attorney! [/*]

At the time she is not a suspect.

HE isn't putting himself out there either.

JMO. :o

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tbrito1


I don't think that he'll fight extradition. I think he missed his mommy and daddy!! [/*]I don't think he wants to spend time in a Mexican prison and won't fight it.

[SavannahStar]

Christina's attorney on! GOOD move. He's good.

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by AlohaRainbow

i just heard one snippet (don't even know who said it) but someone said that the investigations into the murder and the fugitive fleeing were both ongoing, and that if any information was uncovered that implicated others in either the murder or the fugitive flight, then charges would be brought. [/*]

That's what I heard Aloha, leaving it open on CSL IMO.
The little that's been released, we've already seen that LE has way more going on behind the scenes than we know about.

[wandering]

Originally posted by AmyO

Oh yeah - she'll be in rare form tonight!! [/*]Yes, I can hardly wait to see her "eh, eh," while screwing her fists into her eyes, lol....

[sunstar]

Originally posted by tbrito1


:lol: she is gonna be on fire tonight for sure...... [/*]
I just hope it's her tonight and not a substitute host ~ I really want to see it!

[SavannahStar]

Her lawyer explains it all. He's good. I fully believe him.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Me too. [/*]

Chris Welsh is putting forth a very good explanation of Christina's predicament, imo. I am very glad he was included in this joint press conference. It tells me a lot about what LE suspects.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, I can hardly wait to see her "eh, eh," while screwing her fists into her eyes, lol.... [/*]:lol:

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by wandering
The sheriff said they would have preferred to apprehend him when he went to Las Vegas. It was another agency that apprehended him, in Mexico. [/*]

I mean "them" being all agencys involved in this case....geez...

[wandering]

Originally posted by alter ego
I don't think he wants to spend time in a Mexican prison and won't fight it. [/*]Yes, I've read that they're pretty horrible. I think he's also homesick for his family.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
LMAO...like I believe her lawyer...lol [/*]

He walks that line....SO NICE....

She has done everything the law requires of her.....

OH GOD....barf

The attorney needs to take a powder IMO. :patriot:

I'll bet she wants to stay out of the public eye, they might recognize her from other places....YKWIM???

JMO

[VC2]

Originally posted by JanDoe
I wonder if Christina told LE that he was contacting her......
and they asked her to continue to help them locate him....
What if she was cooperating with LE and has alot to do with
them learning his location?

What if Christina betrayed Cesar and they don't want him
to find that info out yet? [/*]

that is what it sounds like. Especially the later remark that she was helpful cooperating in a way that led to his arrest.

IMO

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Chris Welsh is putting forth a very good explanation of Christina's predicament, imo. I am very glad he was included in this joint press conference. It tells me a lot about what LE suspects. [/*]

ABSOLUTELY. He's terrific.

[aubrey04]

I am beyond estatic. Honestly, I did NOT think they would find him this quickly. I felt like he might just get lost in Mexico and never heard from again. Cesar Laurean doesn't have any stand-out features and I figured he would just blend into the crowd.

It's a lot easier to blend in - in Mexico, if you are Mexican.

Andrew Luster and the other white fugitives (like Darren Mack, Perry March, Colton Pitonyak and Laura Hall) who fled to Mexico should be easier to spot. JMO.

By the way, I posted a poll - if anyone is interested in voting on it and/or leaving a comment! Thanks.

RIP Maria,..may justice be served.

[n/t]

Originally posted by AmyO
Per Sheriff: Cesar is not an animal. Um - really?? Sure acted like one if he was the one who killed Maria. [/*]

:eek:

Did he really say that? Why the need to defend him?

[alter ego]

Originally posted by tbrito1


but they just said that she failed to tell LE that she was in contact with him.... [/*]but LE calls her a cooperating witness :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


He walks that line....SO NICE....

She has done everything the law requires of her.....

OH GOD....barf

The attorney needs to take a powder IMO. :patriot:

I'll bet she wants to stay out of the public eye, they might recognize her from other places....YKWIM???

JMO [/*]

For future planning, Candy, what will you want served with your crow?

:biggrin:

[AmyO]

Oh come on - her attorney is more or less saying she didn't know anything about Maria being dead in their backyard. Yeah - sure she didn't. And she didn't see any blood in the house beforehand either. I just don't believe that.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by alter ego
I don't think he wants to spend time in a Mexican prison and won't fight it. [/*]

Hi Alter! I agree, he won't fight it, he wants mommie just about now, coward that he is. IMO.

[wandering]

Originally posted by JanDoe


I mean "them" being all agencys involved in this case....geez... [/*]OK. Don't get your panties in a wad...

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by VC2


that is what it sounds like. Especially the later remark that she was helpful cooperating in a way that led to his arrest.

IMO [/*]

"They" may not be done using her in getting answers to more
of the questions......"they" don't want him to quite figure it out
yet...jmo

[JD81]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


ABSOLUTELY. He's terrific. [/*]

Well, that's it. No charges on Christina now and he sure doesn't expect any in the future.

Christina is innocent.

JMO:chicken: :chicken: :chicken:

[JD81]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


For future planning, Candy, what will you want served with your crow?

:biggrin: [/*]

:biggrin: :chicken:

[wandering]

Originally posted by n/t


:eek:

Did he really say that? Why the need to defend him? [/*]To keep the mob at bay?

He's not getting any special security protection, he said. He'll be housed with other prisoners. :chicken:

[AmyO]

You can't tell me that Maria was killed in HER house, burned and buried in HER yard, and all this at least 2 weeks prior to his leaving town AND SHE HAD NO IDEA. That is just too unreal to believe.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by alter ego
but LE calls her a cooperating witness :shrug: [/*]

Integrity my butt, if SHE DID NOT ALERT THE AUTHORITIES she is absolutely nothing other than pure-t-scummy.

I was just thinking about the Jessica Lunsford case too and EDIE on FOX is talking about it now....I guess it's all good when you know where a FUGITIVE IS and you should feel confident to carry on with them....:confused:

It's a wonderful world here, I tell ya. :rolleyes:

JMO

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
BS. How hard was it to know he was in Mexico. She in no way helped in his arrest. JMO. she withheld information, and should be charged as well. JMO.

How long did she have the letters before she called the wonderful "sheriff". [/*]

maybe the idea of "meeting in LV" came from Christina by way of
LE.......but he was caught before that could occur.....it's possible

[alter ego]

Originally posted by AmyO
Oh come on - her attorney is more or less saying she didn't know anything about Maria being dead in their backyard. Yeah - sure she didn't. And she didn't see any blood in the house beforehand either. I just don't believe that. [/*]I find that hard to swallow also.

How could anyone not smell human flesh burning? barf

[Janz]

Originally posted by AmyO
You can't tell me that Maria was killed in HER house, burned and buried in HER yard, and all this at least 2 weeks prior to his leaving town AND SHE HAD NO IDEA. That is just too unreal to believe. [/*]

I agree, no one is that blind or stoopid...

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
The sheriff said they would have preferred to apprehend him when he went to Las Vegas. It was another agency that apprehended him, in Mexico. [/*]
No kidding! The DP would've been an option for them if he'd come back to the US. :)

[TobyWong]

URG! So nothing pc! You know I could almost believe christina was'nt involved if it were'nt for the whole letting him get away and acting like she had just found out. I still think she knew the night Maria was murdered. JMO JMO
Even if CL loved her I feel so bad that it comes out now. My heart still hurts for all the emotion she had to have been feeling in the last months of her pregnancy and life.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
She's looking at 20-30 as an accessory. JMO. [/*]

Oh but she's not, she is a person of integrity who knows there are many agencies seeking to find her husband and she is on the innanet worried about his infidelity but forgets to tell LE IMO.

:o Oh dang, that's right, she seemed to know just how much she could work around the law and didn't break any while communicating with him.

WOW, that is all I can say....WOW.

Total integrity. barf JMO, excuse me.

[angelzeyez12]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/image_gallery/2293994/

These are some pictures, still none of christina

[Oregongal]

Originally posted by VC2


that is what it sounds like. Especially the later remark that she was helpful cooperating in a way that led to his arrest.

IMO [/*]

I'm wondering now if they did make a deal with her per her maybe being involved with murder and/or cover up and escape, if you help us get him, you got a deal.
Not going to even guess what the deal could be, but....???

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by n/t


:eek:

Did he really say that? Why the need to defend him? [/*]

Brown apparently has a very short memory. Let's roll the tape of him weeping at the sight of that little hand he said he would never forget. Now he yaps that the person directly responsible for that little hand being found like it was, isn't an animal? Brown has mood swings worse then a woman, imo. :cuss:

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Wooo Hoooo Capt. Sutherland became the proud father of a baby girl on the day that Cesar Laurean was captured. [/*]

Great day for Captain Cutie.:rose:

[halfbaked]

Hi all, :seeya: Haven't posted much but never stopped following this case.. I just got done watching the presser... How come Christina is not going to face charges? How can witholding information NOT be a crime? Isn't that obstruction of Justice or something?? Sheesh!!

Thank GOD CL has been captured!!

[JD81]

I am so glad I recorded that press conferenc. I got some on CNN and the rest on MNSBC. It was a good PC. Today is a happy day.



jmo:chicken:

[Lynn Gweeny]

Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean Captured in Mexico!

FOXnews correspondent Adam Housley spoke with his contacts in Mexico and got information about where Cesar was living and who visited him there, where he accessed a computer, and reaction from the local villagers.

http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/housley/

[sunstar]

Originally posted by AmyO
Oh come on - her attorney is more or less saying she didn't know anything about Maria being dead in their backyard. Yeah - sure she didn't. And she didn't see any blood in the house beforehand either. I just don't believe that. [/*]
Oh don't you always tie your little dog up in the FRONT yard? Isn't that where your child plays? Don't you always paint your house at Christmas? (just kidding) :D

[wandering]

I didn't think they'd put any energy into it, being that he was a marine.

What wonderful news!

[angelzeyez12]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Oh but she's not, she is a person of integrity who knows there are many agencies seeking to find her husband and she is on the innanet worried about his infidelity but forgets to tell LE IMO.

:o Oh dang, that's right, she seemed to know just how much she could work around the law and didn't break any while communicating with him.

WOW, that is all I can say....WOW.

Total integrity. barf JMO, excuse me. [/*]

WOW, with ya

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Thank you. A voice of reason. There's a lot that's going to come out regarding Christina. Police were playing her like a fiddle. JMO. [/*]
I think so too. Looks like she has a good attorney so we'll see what comes out and what she gets tagged with. Maria was on her property for a long time so there is no way she can claim ignorance. Unless she has an IQ under 50. imo

[VC2]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
BS. How hard was it to know he was in Mexico. She in no way helped in his arrest. JMO. she withheld information, and should be charged as well. JMO.

How long did she have the letters before she called the wonderful "sheriff". [/*]

Lets see... forget her attorney (even though he was good but imo the only thing he said that le did not was that the military has ordered all members to not discuss the case which would include her) but

Dewey Hudson DA: not involved, helped in his arrest, not a suspect. Deliberately denied CL any help. Diffiuclt situation for her.

Rick Sutherland, chief investigator: Not a suspect, evidence shows she was not involved in the murder or otherwise, cooperating

Sheriff: the same

Both Hudson and Rick Sutherland made points to come back to the mike and even more strongly defended her in essence.

of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo

[bkwits]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
RS said Christina is STILL and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a cooperating witness. [/*]


YEP

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by AmyO
You can't tell me that Maria was killed in HER house, burned and buried in HER yard, and all this at least 2 weeks prior to his leaving town AND SHE HAD NO IDEA. That is just too unreal to believe. [/*]

LE knows more than we do.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2


Lets see... forget her attorney (even though he was good but imo the only thing he said that le did not was that the military has ordered all members to not discuss the case which would include her) but

Dewey Hudson DA: not involved, helped in his arrest, not a suspect. Deliberately denied CL any help. Diffiuclt situation for her.

Rick Sutherland, chief investigator: Not a suspect, evidence shows she was not involved in the murder or otherwise, cooperating

Sheriff: the same

Both Hudson and Rick Sutherland made points to come back to the mike and even more strongly defended her in essence.

of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo [/*]

:beer: :beer: :beer:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Janz


I agree, no one is that blind or stoopid... [/*]

Me either JANZ and just like rape moved to cheated on her, we will eventually see her make another slip up and out herself for knowing about the affair if indeed she did. I suspect she was more than all knowing and that's why she felt comfortable confronting Maria, but that is JMO. :shrug:

Integrity.....1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : incorruptibility

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity

barf NOT SO MUCH IMO.

[wandering]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny
Here's the answer to the access to a computer by Cesar and more:

http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/housley/ [/*]Thank you, Lynn! :read:

[JD81]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


Brown apparently has a very short memory. Let's roll the tape of him weeping at the sight of that little hand he said he would never forget. Now he yaps that the person directly responsible for that little hand being found like it was, isn't an animal? Brown has mood swings worse then a woman, imo. :cuss: [/*]

SB is really a trip. Always had been over his head. LOL

jmo

Congrats to Captain Cutie for the birth of his daughter on the day Cesar was caught.

:rose:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by angelzeyez12
http://www.wral.com/news/local/image_gallery/2293994/

These are some pictures, still none of christina [/*]
I love it how they rolled up his shirt sleeves exposing the tattoos, which identified him. He may be sorry he ever got them now. :D

[aubrey04]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Wonderful! May justice be served.

Interesting how the one thing he says to the press is "proof." I guess he doesn't realize that the autopsy results are out.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_MARINE?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
[/*]

He did seem very disoriented and disheveled in that video. What I found interesting is they said that Cesar only had ten pesos. That's around one US dollar. Seems he was broke as a joke.

They, also, said that he had been eating fruit he picked farming land.

[Sweetyhide]

You know what, LE says she didn't break the law and there isn't any evidence that she broke the law. (for now)
For all the people that want her head on a platter, that's just not how our system works. There has to be proof she did something illegal. It would be great if all the anger towards her would be focused on CL, the person that is accused of this terrible crime.

I know there will be no convincing the people that think she is a monster. I wont try. But you can't go arresting people just because you FEEL she had to have known.

[VC2]

Originally posted by alter ego
I find that hard to swallow also.

How could anyone not smell human flesh burning? barf [/*]

because she was buried a foot under ground!!!!!!!! she burned as a slow burned under a firepit/barbq

and to whomever said "christina was at the bbq," so were a number of their friends. i guess they are all involved too :rolleyes: GMAB

That she called her CO or ex CO and then went to LE and yeah maybe took an hour or so - i would have, totally freaked out - when the husband she loves leaves, does not mean she helped him escape, and LE has the time line that we do not. They specifically said there is NO evidence she helped him flee.

IMO

[AlohaRainbow]

Originally posted by VC2

*snip*
of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo [/*]
the only thing is... they have yet to hear what cesar himself has to say. until they fully interrogate/interview him, how can the case have been fully investigated backwards and forwards?

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
I'll dance naked in my yard at midnight if the woman is innocent. [/*]

Will you post that on youtube? Cuz I have a feeling that is what you'll be doing. We've only heard the tip of the iceberg, IMO, her full innocence will be made known at some point.

:patriot:

[angelzeyez12]

So maybe I misunderstood but they said as of now they have no evidence on Christina, but nothing is set in stone. I got that if someone (hint CL) could possibly show evidence other than what they have to prove he had help or he didn't do this, of course the evidence would have to be great, that the DA office could bring more charges about even on other people. Also the hiding him, other people that help him along the way could be charged.

So all in all, more charges are possible with evidence.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Sweetyhide
You know what, LE says she didn't break the law and there isn't any evidence that she broke the law. (for now)
For all the people that want her head on a platter, that's just not how our system works. There has to be proof she did something illegal. It would be great if all the anger towards her would be focused on CL, the person that is accused of this terrible crime.

I know there will be no convincing the people that think she is a monster. I wont try. But you can't go arresting people just because you FEEL she had to have known. [/*]

Well said!

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by sunstar

Oh don't you always tie your little dog up in the FRONT yard? Isn't that where your child plays? Don't you always paint your house at Christmas? (just kidding) :D [/*]

Oh and don't forget swingset too. I would never question my DH....:o Then the woman accusing him of a crime goes missing and I only ask every few months anyway. :rolleyes: SURE.

I think they believe we all just fell off the turnip truck.

I'm of the belief she doesn't want to be in the public eye for fear of identification on something or the other....JMO tho and nothing more.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by sherryhefner


I feel this way too, AmyO....and I still, regardless of the "blah, blah, blah" of attorneys and LE at this point, have not ruled out that she was the one who was in a rage when she found Maria in her home with her hubby.

I don't like to accuse...but it just seems so obvious that this was a rage killing and at the least, she had to know something had happened. If not, I'd like to hear the detailed story of how this whole thing went down with Christina being completely in the dark. [/*]Especially considering the fact she waited 24 hours to alert LE about the fate of Maria. And then the pesky fact that her husband was indicted for murder after he told her Maria killed herself and yet she had contact with him and didn't bother to let LE know!

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by VC2


Lets see... forget her attorney (even though he was good but imo the only thing he said that le did not was that the military has ordered all members to not discuss the case which would include her) but

Dewey Hudson DA: not involved, helped in his arrest, not a suspect. Deliberately denied CL any help. Diffiuclt situation for her.

Rick Sutherland, chief investigator: Not a suspect, evidence shows she was not involved in the murder or otherwise, cooperating

Sheriff: the same

Both Hudson and Rick Sutherland made points to come back to the mike and even more strongly defended her in essence.

of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo [/*]

Excellent summation there VC2, tho I am of the opinion that Christina did give him a head start in his escape.

[JD81]

Originally posted by VC2


Lets see... forget her attorney (even though he was good but imo the only thing he said that le did not was that the military has ordered all members to not discuss the case which would include her) but

Dewey Hudson DA: not involved, helped in his arrest, not a suspect. Deliberately denied CL any help. Diffiuclt situation for her.

Rick Sutherland, chief investigator: Not a suspect, evidence shows she was not involved in the murder or otherwise, cooperating

Sheriff: the same

Both Hudson and Rick Sutherland made points to come back to the mike and even more strongly defended her in essence.

of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo [/*]

:beer: :chicken: :chicken:

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by angelzeyez12
So maybe I misunderstood but they said as of now they have no evidence on Christina, but nothing is set in stone. I got that if someone (hint CL) could possibly show evidence other than what they have to prove he had help or he didn't do this, of course the evidence would have to be great, that the DA office could bring more charges about even on other people. Also the hiding him, other people that help him along the way could be charged.

So all in all, more charges are possible with evidence. [/*]

That is exactly what I understood it to be as well angel. :patriot:

Don't worry, just like she had to be in touch with him, my money says somewhere there are plans or were plans about hooking back up later and then this thing blew up and they had to revamp their plans IMHO. :cool:

I can wait for it to happen and will. JMOOC.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Will you post that on youtube? Cuz I have a feeling that is what you'll be doing. We've only heard the tip of the iceberg, IMO, her full innocence will be made known at some point.

:patriot: [/*]I hope you are right - but for now, I have doubts that her hands are clean in this whole mess.

[donna]

Originally posted by Marcia3
Oh brother! CSL denied resources to CAL 'cuz she was told by her atty to deny him!

She is not stupid...IMO. [/*]

BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet!

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
I think the evidence will prove she knew. We shall see. Christina obviously knew CL was having an affair with Maria, and a baby was due.

that would pizz me off big time if my husband was having another baby with some other woman. MOTIVE. Wow, that could be a defense for CL. Christina did it!

Thinking outloud here. JMO. Throw soft pillows! Please. [/*]

But but but, it was all a misunderstanding. A woman accused him of rape and she knew nothing/he did nothing. Then they only talk about it every few months...:rolleyes: SURE.

BUT NOW, she is sending him messages calling it CHEATING....It's all good, no misunderstanding that IMO.

barf IF you buy recycled garbage.

JMO.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by sunstar

Oh don't you always tie your little dog up in the FRONT yard? Isn't that where your child plays? Don't you always paint your house at Christmas? (just kidding) :D [/*]
:lol: Oh - I had forgotten all those things! But you can see much worse it sounds now that you remind me of all that. Unless LE is REALLY dumb, she is going down. That prosecutor doesn't give me a warm and fuzyy either.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
I think the evidence will prove she knew. We shall see. Christina obviously knew CL was having an affair with Maria, and a baby was due.

that would pizz me off big time if my husband was having another baby with some other woman. MOTIVE. Wow, that could be a defense for CL. Christina did it!

Thinking outloud here. JMO. Throw soft pillows! Please. [/*]
Too bad he's already said Maria slashed her own neck or he could try this one at trial. :D I totally agree about the motive ~ they BOTH had plenty of reasons to want Maria gone.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by JD81


SB is really a trip. Always had been over his head. LOL

jmo

Congrats to Captain Cutie for the birth of his daughter on the day Cesar was caught.

:rose: [/*]

Hey JD, yep such a blessing for Captain Cutie, especially after having to deal with these terrible murders.

[angelzeyez12]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


That is exactly what I understood it to be as well angel. :patriot:

Don't worry, just like she had to be in touch with him, my money says somewhere there are plans or were plans about hooking back up later and then this thing blew up and they had to revamp their plans IMHO. :cool:

I can wait for it to happen and will. JMOOC. [/*]

The only one in my eyes that really defended her was her lawyer, but hey he is paid to do that.

[JD81]

Originally posted by donna


BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet! [/*]

I disagree. The PC proves it. How do you like your crow cooked. LOL

:chicken: :chicken: :chicken:

[VC2]

Originally posted by Sweetyhide
You know what, LE says she didn't break the law and there isn't any evidence that she broke the law. (for now)
For all the people that want her head on a platter, that's just not how our system works. There has to be proof she did something illegal. It would be great if all the anger towards her would be focused on CL, the person that is accused of this terrible crime.

I know there will be no convincing the people that think she is a monster. I wont try. But you can't go arresting people just because you FEEL she had to have known. [/*]

ITA sweetyhide.

It angers me that so many posters prefer to think the one person that LE has ruled out (with the same addition that all le makes everywhere - that if something changes, which applies to any investigation of anyone anywhere) after 3 freaking months of investigating is the villain and that the PERPETRATOR is some poor young boy who is just covering up for his wife.

barf CL is an evil creep, using the barbacoa method of cooking is evidence of that but he is not getting the brunt of the anger and some are even suggesting he is some sort of pawn, guilty of nothing but trying to help his wife.

I believe LE and i do not mean the sheriff but the DA, and the chief investigator. Especially knowing all the evidence when we have just snippets.

bah.. bs.

imo

[Janz]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


Me either JANZ and just like rape moved to cheated on her, we will eventually see her make another slip up and out herself for knowing about the affair if indeed she did. I suspect she was more than all knowing and that's why she felt comfortable confronting Maria, but that is JMO. :shrug:

Integrity.....1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : incorruptibility

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity

barf NOT SO MUCH IMO. [/*]

Exactly!! Just going on gut feeling and a little common sense here, I cannot believe she was not aware of a lot of "home improvements" going on, and at the very least the burning of the fence, not to mention the delay in turning over the notes. All the time Maria was missing before her remains were found: where was the "cooperating witness??
Also at my age, I have learned to not put too much emphasis on the wording of, or lack of, at press conferences.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by VC2


Lets see... forget her attorney (even though he was good but imo the only thing he said that le did not was that the military has ordered all members to not discuss the case which would include her) but

Dewey Hudson DA: not involved, helped in his arrest, not a suspect. Deliberately denied CL any help. Diffiuclt situation for her.

Rick Sutherland, chief investigator: Not a suspect, evidence shows she was not involved in the murder or otherwise, cooperating

Sheriff: the same

Both Hudson and Rick Sutherland made points to come back to the mike and even more strongly defended her in essence.

of course they say if anything changes, that is a no brainer but imo they have investigated this backwards and forwards and have the info which is why they are really making a point of saying she is not a part of it.

But people on this board know better than the DA or RS

imo [/*]

thank you for this - I doubt her uninvolvement but will conceed to LE...:patriot:

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by AmyO
You can't tell me that Maria was killed in HER house, burned and buried in HER yard, and all this at least 2 weeks prior to his leaving town AND SHE HAD NO IDEA. That is just too unreal to believe. [/*] That does seem implausable.We should keep in mind that all we know is Christina's version of events & her alledged lack of knowledge of events. We have yet to hear what Caesar will say about Christina's involvement or lack thereof. We still have the timeline problem of only a few hours for CL to go to ATM with Maria, then bus station, then back to his house, kill Maria, dispose of her body and clean up before Christina gets home. That's an awful lot of activity for such a short time span. JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
A young man would never have that kind of detailed mind. There is no way. I truly think she set him up and he was too young to understand. He was probably scared. He knew they would look to him considering the charges. I think Marie was caught in that house with him. I think wifey killed her. [/*]

That is one of my theories too and I want him held responsible no matter what his role as the aftermath is even more horrific for me.

I think Christina brings a new meaning to the word integrity. barf

JMO tho.

I also think he believed they had a plan if you remember ARE YOU WITH ME ON THIS....and believed if he copped to burying her and they bought suicide that Christina would be a free bird and he could take his chances on the run in MEXICO waiting for her or that some kind of extenuating circumstances would prevail. Remember they are young.

But the lawyer they consulted must have really put the fear into them. I still say it was a deal Sumana with reference to him paying the piper for CHEATING...you know that pesky thing still bothering her.

JMO and that's it. :(

[sunstar]

Originally posted by AmyO

:lol: Oh - I had forgotten all those things! But you can see much worse it sounds now that you remind me of all that. Unless LE is REALLY dumb, she is going down. That prosecutor doesn't give me a warm and fuzyy either. [/*]
Maybe they're just waiting until he gets back. Or maybe there's information Mrs. CL has that they'll use against him. I heard the DA last night and he was kind of sorry CL hadn't been caught in the US so they could go for the DP.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by angelzeyez12


The only one in my eyes that really defended her was her lawyer, but hey he is paid to do that. [/*]

I disagree, I think they all sounded quite sympathetic to her. Dewey Hudson also, very much so.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
She knew! And her jealousy against the other woman.... wow. Having her husband's baby, and who had allegedly "raped" Maria. Lots going on here.

JMO. [/*]I don't think paternity of Maria's child has been established....

[Janz]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
That does seem implausable.We should keep in mind that all we know is Christina's version of events & her alledged lack of knowledge of events. We have yet to hear what Caesar will say about Christina's involvement or lack thereof. We still have the timeline problem of only a few hours for CL to go to ATM with Maria, then bus station, then back to his house, kill Maria, dispose of her body and clean up before Christina gets home. That's an awful lot of activity for such a short time span. JMO [/*]

Hopefully, we are getting closer to some answers!

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
That does seem implausable.We should keep in mind that all we know is Christina's version of events & her alledged lack of knowledge of events. We have yet to hear what Caesar will say about Christina's involvement or lack thereof. We still have the timeline problem of only a few hours for CL to go to ATM with Maria, then bus station, then back to his house, kill Maria, dispose of her body and clean up before Christina gets home. That's an awful lot of activity for such a short time span. JMO [/*]

But you know what? I am sure that time span has been talked about for hours and hours and hours between LE and Christina. And apparently whatever went on in those discussions, they are satisfied. That really is the bottom line, you know. Not what we think (generic "we").

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


:beer: :beer: :beer: [/*]

RS stated CSL has done everything they have asked of her, cooperated fully. A lady of integrity who is feeling very torn.
I still believe she helped hook CL by the computer and they enter the computer and other items as evidence when confiscated.
SB also stated they will provide translators for spanish speaking members of Laurena family. I am thinking Aunt, Uncle who supposedly CL was staying at rachero.
Thats my Opinion.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
That does seem implausable.We should keep in mind that all we know is Christina's version of events & her alledged lack of knowledge of events. We have yet to hear what Caesar will say about Christina's involvement or lack thereof. We still have the timeline problem of only a few hours for CL to go to ATM with Maria, then bus station, then back to his house, kill Maria, dispose of her body and clean up before Christina gets home. That's an awful lot of activity for such a short time span. JMO [/*]
You said it Mitzy. I hope we don't have to wait too long to hear the entire story.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by sunstar

Maybe they're just waiting until he gets back. Or maybe there's information Mrs. CL has that they'll use against him. I heard the DA last night and he was kind of sorry CL hadn't been caught in the US so they could go for the DP. [/*]

I think that would have prompted a quick sell out between the two. TIME unfortunately doesn't stand out so much when they are looking at this tragedy, but DEATH might mean something from my POV.

I believe they would be throwing mud back and forth and just maybe LE could get a true story out of it IMO.

I am still not counting her out just yet.

JMO.:patriot:

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
I'll dance naked in my yard at midnight if the woman is innocent. [/*]

Will you have someone take a video and post it so we can see it?:lol:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES



I think Christina brings a new meaning to the word integrity. barf

JMO tho.

I also think he believed they had a plan if you remember ARE YOU WITH ME ON THIS....and believed if he copped to burying her and they bought suicide that Christina would be a free bird and he could take his chances on the run in MEXICO waiting for her or that some kind of extenuating circumstances would prevail. Remember they are young.



JMO and that's it. :( [/*]
I totally agree ~ what integrity? And what was with that comment "are you with me on this" unless it was a plan and not really what happened? This reminds me of those teenage cadets in Texas who murdered the "rival" girl a few years ago.

[Regina.Lampert]

Didn't Captain Sutherland confirm that LE knows the paternity of Gabriel but that information would remain secret until trial?

[Janz]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Didn't Captain Sutherland confirm that LE knows the paternity of Gabriel but that information would remain secret until trial? [/*]

Lordy, I must have missed that!! So they know??

[sunstar]

Originally posted by alter ego
I don't think paternity of Maria's child has been established.... [/*]
Wouldn't it be something if it turns out CL isn't the baby's father? I think since LE knows the DNA results, CL probably is or maybe they would've revealed it.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by donna


BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet! [/*]

I disagree respectfully Donna, after all I'm certain the attorney told the WOMAN OF INTEGRITYbarf exactly how far she could go.

She disgusts me and then some. Sorry. :o

But I'm sure you are right about money being hard to come by and if they thought they were shutting down his money resources, they were probably watching her then too.

JMO.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by sunstar

Wouldn't it be something if it turns out CL isn't the baby's father? I think since LE knows the DNA results, CL probably is or maybe they would've revealed it. [/*]

Maria apparently said Cesar wasn't the father. That was discussed yesterday.

[angelzeyez12]

Originally posted by sherryhefner


I feel this way too, AmyO....and I still, regardless of the "blah, blah, blah" of attorneys and LE at this point, have not ruled out that she was the one who was in a rage when she found Maria in her home with her hubby.

I don't like to accuse...but it just seems so obvious that this was a rage killing and at the least, she had to know something had happened. If not, I'd like to hear the detailed story of how this whole thing went down with Christina being completely in the dark. [/*]

To you personally, I know this is off topic, but are you from NC, maybe Lincolnton

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Press Conferences prove nothing. Let's get them both in a court of law with some evidence, then we'll talk. Sheesh! :seeya: [/*]
Agreed. This trial will be one you won't want to miss!

[Lynn Gweeny]

Read the Q&A from the PC

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2008-04-10-0027.html#q

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Didn't Captain Sutherland confirm that LE knows the paternity of Gabriel but that information would remain secret until trial? [/*]Well gee, if Cesear isn't the daddy, then the paternity of the unborn child has no probative value for the prosecution, so why would they present it?

Some secret :shrug:

[CanCan]

Yikes!!

Shep just reported that when authorities asked CL if he killed Maria L, Cl replied, "I loved her."

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Do you have a link? I'd be interested in seeing the DNA results. JMO.

I need a break before I have a meltdown.

Later people :seeya: [/*]

Oh gosh sorry Dun. Maybe Candy will remember and post the link. It was in the discussion yesterday. We all were :eek: .

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Do you have a link? I'd be interested in seeing the DNA results. JMO.

I need a break before I have a meltdown.

Later people :seeya: [/*]
Maria's mother said today that the paternity hadn't been determined. I questioned it earlier today and apparently it's not been released. I thought they have had plenty of time to do the testing given that they should have been able to get Cesar's DNA from his house somewhere. imo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
it was his son. There's very little doubt in my mind. I could be wrong though. Maybe it wasn't rape, but that child, Gabriel, was his son, IMO. [/*]

Well I'm not saying it is or isn't his son. I certainly thought it was his son. However, what I'm saying is that MARIA said it was not his child.

[baywench]

Originally posted by bkwits


Will you have someone take a video and post it so we can see it?:lol: [/*]

And I will videotape her as I dance naked with her!

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii
A young man would never have that kind of detailed mind. There is no way. I truly think she set him up and he was too young to understand. He was probably scared. He knew they would look to him considering the charges. I think Marie was caught in that house with him. I think wifey killed her. [/*]


IMO, this will be proven to be wrong. LE, FBI think you are mistaken and they have the evidence. Cesar alone killed that poor young woman and her baby. IMO

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by AmyO

Maria's mother said today that the paternity hadn't been determined. I questioned it earlier today and apparently it's not been released. I thought they have had plenty of time to do the testing given that they should have been able to get Cesar's DNA from his house somewhere. imo [/*] In "War Time" military personell have their DNA placed in a data base. The Marine Corp already has Caesar's DNA profile.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Do you have a link? I'd be interested in seeing the DNA results. JMO.

I need a break before I have a meltdown.

Later people :seeya: [/*]

Q. In view of the confirmation of pregnancy on June 27, why was no DNA sample taken from Cpl Laurean between the period of June 27 and November 5?

A. NCIS decided to postpone taking a sample of her child's DNA until its birth due to the invasiveness of the DNA testing procedure (amniocentesis). Later, on November 5, LCpl Lauterbach informed the military prosecutor she was certain the child was not Cpl Laurean's based upon a recent Obstetrics Gynecological examination and recalculated conception date. Accordingly, there was no investigatory or evidentiary reason to obtain Cpl. Laurean's DNA.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/gen/ap/OH_Missing_Marine_Glance.html

[bkwits]

Originally posted by baywench


And I will videotape her as I dance naked with her! [/*]


Great I'm waiting to see that. :biggrin:

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by VC2


ITA sweetyhide.

It angers me that so many posters prefer to think the one person that LE has ruled out (with the same addition that all le makes everywhere - that if something changes, which applies to any investigation of anyone anywhere) after 3 freaking months of investigating is the villain and that the PERPETRATOR is some poor young boy who is just covering up for his wife.

barf CL is an evil creep, using the barbacoa method of cooking is evidence of that but he is not getting the brunt of the anger and some are even suggesting he is some sort of pawn, guilty of nothing but trying to help his wife.

I believe LE and i do not mean the sheriff but the DA, and the chief investigator. Especially knowing all the evidence when we have just snippets.

bah.. bs.

imo [/*]

I still believe CAL to be guilty of murder, and I hold him in full responsibility for what happened to Maria and Gabriel's bodies after her murder.

But I just don't buy the story that CSL knew nothing until CAL left. I believe she knew and may have been there for the entire burial and desecration of their bodies. I think she purposely held back contacting anyone after CAL took off to give him a head start. She continued to communicate with CAL and may have been planning a redenvous with him when LE intervened with the SW.

Do I think CSL should be punished if all of my accusations are true? Absolutely.

Do I think CAL should sit behind prison walls for the rest of his natural life if he is found guilty? Absolutely.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by donna


BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet! [/*]

As I was listening to the pc (in the car), those were the first words out of my mouth.

I also notice that NOBODY said she was cleared and that the investigations (plural) into the murder and the fugitive side are continuing.

In any event, she corresponded with him virtually the whole time and thumbed her cooperating nose right in front of the FBI, OCSD, and everybody else. Even dragging Amber in by using her computer. If it were one of us that was continuing correspondence with a wanted fugitive, we'd be charged with obstruction of justice.

JMO and all.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Bottom line, he will be charged with either one, or two counts of murder. JMO. And he will drag Christina and his born child through the mud. JMO. [/*]No, NC does not have a fetal homicide law so there will be no charge for the death of the unborn child.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
The sheriff is an idiot. JMO. FBI caught Cesar, not the sheriff. [/*]

Actually that is not true. The local Mexican police caught Laurean when they found him walking along the street and gave them his name. That LE then contacted the FBI.

imoo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Bottom line, he will be charged with either one, or two counts of murder. JMO. And he will drag Christina and his born child through the mud. JMO. [/*]

No charge for killing a fetus in NC.

But yeh Christina and his daughter ARE being dragged through the mud. As we speak. Right here! Thanks to Cesar.

[Janz]

Originally posted by Marcia3


I still believe CAL to be guilty of murder, and I hold him in full responsibility for what happened to Maria and Gabriel's bodies after her murder.

But I just don't buy the story that CSL knew nothing until CAL left. I believe she knew and may have been there for the entire burial and desecration of their bodies. I think she purposely held back contacting anyone after CAL took off to give him a head start. She continued to communicate with CAL and may have been planning a redenvous with him when LE intervened with the SW.

Do I think CSL should be punished if all of my accusations are true? Absolutely.

Do I think CAL should sit behind prison walls for the rest of his natural life if he is found guilty? Absolutely.



JMO [/*]


:beer:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by AmyO

I think so too. Looks like she has a good attorney so we'll see what comes out and what she gets tagged with. Maria was on her property for a long time so there is no way she can claim ignorance. Unless she has an IQ under 50. imo [/*]

That and requiring the services of a seeing eye dog!

[AmyO]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
In "War Time" military personell have their DNA placed in a data base. The Marine Corp already has Caesar's DNA profile. [/*]
Well then there ya go. Someone knows. Why would they wait until trial?? I don't understand how that knowledge would really compromise the case. But then again, I'm not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. :)

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Sumanadevii


I will set my web cam up for you. [/*]


Great, I'll be waiting by my PC.:biggrin: I'll ask the neighbors in.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
The child may have been too "burned up" to get a DNA sample. JMO. Did you see the pictures of that little baby with his hand outstretched to heaven?

They might not be able to get a DNA sample because both he and Maria were cooked beyond recognition. Maria had teeth, Gabriel didn't. JMO. [/*]They recovered fetal bones and there was DNA analysis done per the press conference.

[JanDoe]

.
Did any LE agency state that Christina was in contact with Cesar
without their knowledge?

Isn't it possible that Christina is betraying Cesar at this point and
the LE agencies don't want Cesar to figure it out in order that
they can continue to use her in whatever capacity they may need
her?

I believe she knew things that she didn't tell LE in the beginning,
but we don't even know if she stayed home the night of Dec 14.
We don't know what she would believe coming from Cesar's mouth........there are many spouses that believe what they are
told.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
The child may have been too "burned up" to get a DNA sample. JMO. Did you see the pictures of that little baby with his hand outstretched to heaven?

They might not be able to get a DNA sample because both he and Maria were cooked beyond recognition. Maria had teeth, Gabriel didn't. JMO. [/*] That's certainly a possibility with respect to Gabriel, but I'am hopeful they were able to get some of his DNA from bone marrow, if anything was left. Oh God, what a visual:cuss:

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by sherryhefner



I agree with you here, Savannah......I just can't understand why all the sweet-talk towards her. I don't know if I've ever heard LE act this way before.

My question is...."Are they playing her?" [/*]

My question is "Are they playing to the jury pool?"

IMO, CSL will be their star witness when CAL goes to trial. They are trying to "pretty her up" and paint her as cooperative and heartbroken over her husband's betrayal of her and his violent acts and unthinkable attempts to destroy Maria and Gabriel's bodies. They are counting on her to put CAL into prison for LWOP. They need her and are working the room already in preparation for trial.

All JMO, of course.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by sherryhefner



I agree with you here, Savannah......I just can't understand why all the sweet-talk towards her. I don't know if I've ever heard LE act this way before.

My question is...."Are they playing her?" [/*]
Or do they have the intellegence to investigate this case properly? Something seems off with Christina but we'll have to wait to hear what she has to say.

[Kel65]

Originally posted by donna


BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet! [/*]

You can't send what you probably don't have. No brainer there. JMO

[AmyO]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


That and requiring the services of a seeing eye dog! [/*]
:lol:

[JD81]

I'd love to get the transcript of what Christina's lawyer said.

[Amy S.]

I like Maria's mother. That poor women has been through so much. For whatever reason, she took Maria in and raised her with 4 kids of her own. She has tried to be honest about Maria and has been criticized for it.

If Maria wasn't raped, then she did lie.

If Cesar isn't the father, that would be another lie.

Also, IF Cesar isn't the father - there is another family out there that has lost a son, grandson and they don't even know it.

If Cesar isn't the father, he (or Christina) killed Maria for no reason.

I have a daughter Maria's age. I feel so bad for Maria - no matter what happened with the pregnancy.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


snipped

I also notice that NOBODY said she was cleared and that the investigations (plural) into the murder and the fugitive side are continuing.


JMO and all. [/*]

YEP.

And the strange mentions of the investigation going to the DA and the past term, WAS a cooperating witness.

Also wide open about if another indictment.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Isn't that just so sick! Fetal bones. Geez Louise!

I don't care who the father was. CL murdered a pregnant woman. Gabriels father and DNA isn't important! JMO.

Let's think of the victims. :rose: [/*]

Nobody can decide that and it has nothing to do with thinking of the victims YOU CAN SEE. Just maybe if the child was not Cesar's there is another human being hurting over the loss of Maria and Gabriel.

I hardly think it's fair to just decide what is important and disregard other things. JMOOC. :shrug:

[strick10]

Originally posted by Mitzy2
In "War Time" military personell have their DNA placed in a data base. The Marine Corp already has Caesar's DNA profile. [/*]

It's not just during war time that DNA for military personnel is collected. In the 1990's it became a must for ALL military personnel to provide their DNA to be kept in a registry.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by donna


BS and poop! Christina probably did not send Cesar any money because she didn't have any to send him!

I still say she is not in the clear yet! [/*]

Did you notice when Sutherland stepped back up to speak he stressed that they (OCSD) have gathered the evidence and turned it over to the DA but it is up to the DA if charges are to be filed.

This reminds me of so many cases I have seen where LE spoke out how they tried to get the DA to bring certain charges on someone but the DA refused to take the case forward thinking they didn't have enough. Only for another DA later on to finally have a different POV and did press charges and went forward to trial.

IMO OCSD does believe CSL may have had some involvement but Hudson is not convinced there is enough evidence to go forward and I am beginning to believe for some reason he needs her testimony badly in this case. It makes me question just how much solid evidence they really have tying him to the crime and only him.

And saying she is a cooperating witness is a farce imo when secretly behind their back she is communicating with the fugitive. It seems when CSL gets her tail caught in a crack like when the SW was done she fesses up to her wrongdoing and goes back under the cooperating witness umbrella.

imoo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by daniel green


YEP.

And the strange mentions of the investigation going to the DA and the past term, WAS a cooperating witness.

Also wide open about if another indictment. [/*]

Many other times "is" was used instead of "was." Gotta disagree with ya here DG. :D

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by Marcia3
Oh brother! CSL denied resources to CAL 'cuz she was told by her atty to deny him!

She is not stupid...IMO. [/*]

I think it's her attorney that's not stupid.

;)

[strick10]

Originally posted by daniel green


YEP.

And the strange mentions of the investigation going to the DA and the past term, WAS a cooperating witness.

Also wide open about if another indictment. [/*]

I missed that DG, Was? What's that all about?

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by JD81
I'd love to get the transcript of what Christina's lawyer said. [/*]

That might be available from CNN soon. I keep checking. :cool:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Many other times "is" was used instead of "was." Gotta disagree with ya here DG. :D [/*]

You could be right.

I am sure you are.

But there was something going on today that was just hmmmmmmm.

[JD81]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


That might be available from CNN soon. I keep checking. :cool: [/*]

Thanks Lynn:rose:

[daniel green]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think it's her attorney that's not stupid.

;) [/*]

Man oh man if he didn't give a closing argument today.

"would tend to show" she was not involved. "Would conclude" she was not involved.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Did you notice when Sutherland stepped back up to speak he stressed that they (OCSD) have gathered the evidence and turned it over to the DA but it is up to the DA if charges are to be filed.

This reminds me of so many cases I have seen where LE spoke out how they tried to get the DA to bring certain charges on someone but the DA refused to take the case forward thinking they didn't have enough. Only for another DA later on to finally have a different POV and did press charges and went forward to trial.

IMO OCSD does believe CSL may have had some involvement but Hudson is not convinced there is enough evidence to go forward and I am beginning to believe for some reason he needs her testimony badly in this case. It makes me question just how much solid evidence they really have tying him to the crime and only him.

And saying she is a cooperating witness is a farce imo when secretly behind their back she is communicating with the fugitive. It seems when CSL gets her tail caught in a crack like when the SW was done she fesses up to her wrongdoing and goes back under the cooperating witness umbrella.

imoo [/*]
Yet another wise post as always, GB! Like I said in a post a while back, the DA doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. Wishy-washy if you ask me. I hope he doesn't loose this case. SOMEONE killed Maria and her baby. It's not like he hasn't had months to put a case together! Sheesh!

[daniel green]

Originally posted by strick10


I missed that DG, Was? What's that all about? [/*]

The DA and the CSutherland both used the past tense when referring to Mrs L being a cooperating witness.

[Mitzy2]

Originally posted by AmyO

Well then there ya go. Someone knows. Why would they wait until trial?? I don't understand how that knowledge would really compromise the case. But then again, I'm not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. :) [/*] :D . Yep, if there was enough DNA left collected from Gabriel, then ofcourse , LE already knows. It appears they just don't want to release anything until they get CL back on US soil. JMO

[AmyO]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think it's her attorney that's not stupid.

;) [/*]
Agreed. He seems a little more on the ball than your average defense attorney. If she's saved from all this, it'll be due to him. imo

[daniel green]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Did you notice when Sutherland stepped back up to speak he stressed that they (OCSD) have gathered the evidence and turned it over to the DA but it is up to the DA if charges are to be filed.

snipped[/*]

Uh huh.

Twice they said that.

[JanDoe]

where is the Link stating that Christina was in contact with Cesar behind the back of LE.....

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by sherryhefner



I agree with you here, Savannah......I just can't understand why all the sweet-talk towards her. I don't know if I've ever heard LE act this way before.

My question is...."Are they playing her?" [/*]

I dunno, the sheriff down in Union County South Carolina sweet talked Susan Smith all the way to a confession.

:shrug:

[Marcia3]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I think it's her attorney that's not stupid.

;) [/*]

Good point. But she's smart enough to listen to what he tells her apparently.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I dunno, the sheriff down in Union County South Carolina sweet talked Susan Smith all the way to a confession.

:shrug: [/*]
Oooo - I remember that! He was slick, wasn't he? Loved that guy.

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I dunno, the sheriff down in Union County South Carolina sweet talked Susan Smith all the way to a confession.

:shrug: [/*]

no, they asked her tough questions over and over until she broke.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


That might be available from CNN soon. I keep checking. :cool: [/*]

:o Quoting my own post because the entire PC is now available for viewing. The comments by Christina's lawyer begin at 19:10 in the video:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2723216/

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by daniel green


Man oh man if he didn't give a closing argument today.

"would tend to show" she was not involved. "Would conclude" she was not involved. [/*]

I know, I thought I was hearing his opening statement!

"We believe the evidence will show...."

He hasn't made a beLiever out of me yet.

[strick10]

Originally posted by daniel green


The DA and the CSutherland both used the past tense when referring to Mrs L being a cooperating witness. [/*]

Thanks DG! Must've been during the interview w/ them earlier which I missed.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by JanDoe


no, they asked her tough questions over and over until she broke. [/*]

The police knew from about half an hour into her story the first time she was lying.

She did not break. They kept telling her to pls go get her babies so that they could be buried.

[VC2]

Originally posted by sherryhefner



I agree with you here, Savannah......I just can't understand why all the sweet-talk towards her. I don't know if I've ever heard LE act this way before.

My question is...."Are they playing her?" [/*]

I have, when the public is trying to convict someone that they believe is not involved. I had the strong feeling that Hudson and Sutherland were very bothered by it and yet they are between a rock and a hard place since they cannot discuss the evidence. So all they can do is keep repeating that she is cooperating, she has been helpful, there is no evidence showing she was involved in any way but they also have to say (understandably) that if anything shows up after 3+ months of investigating that they HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF (their words) then it could change - that applied to anyone else as well.

IMO it was clear as day that they don't like the accusations against christina and they can't completely explain why they feel she is not involved in any way since they cannot release the evidence which is what it needs to stop the vicious rumors. All they can do is keep supporting her publically and making the point more than once that she is not part of it. (it is rare to see them come back to the mike to keep adding something they realized they could say to back up their belief unless they are sure imo)

imo

btw i am upset at the nbc link that lynn kindly found. In the q/a they added right after the cooperating family "specifically christina" and nbc left that out

[AmyO]

Originally posted by JanDoe


no, they asked her tough questions over and over until she broke. [/*]
yes, but it was his style. I think he got it to happen a lot sooner than it would have had it not been for him. imo

[sunstar]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I dunno, the sheriff down in Union County South Carolina sweet talked Susan Smith all the way to a confession.

:shrug: [/*]
He also knew her before she drowned her boys so it probably wasn't that easy for her to keep the truth from him. He also had proof that she was lying. ;)

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by JanDoe


no, they asked her tough questions over and over until she broke. [/*]

In private, yes. In the public some of us were questioning WTF, why isn't this chick arrested already.....But we were definitely led to believe he was on her side.

That's how I remember it anyway.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I know, I thought I was hearing his opening statement!

"We believe the evidence will show...."

He hasn't made a beLiever out of me yet. [/*]


He made me laugh out loud. It will tend to show.

Is this guy supposed to be an experienced defence lawyer?

[daniel green]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


In private, yes. In the public some of us were questioning WTF, why isn't this chick arrested already.....But we were definitely led to believe he was on her side.

That's how I remember it anyway. [/*]

Absolutely. That is how they spoke to the press and public.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by daniel green



He made me laugh out loud. It will tend to show.

Is this guy supposed to be an experienced defence lawyer? [/*]
He was being very carefull with his words imo. He came across very confident even though he may have been saying, "Oh $hit!" inside. HA!

[bkwits]

Originally posted by Marcia3


Good point. But she's smart enough to listen to what he tells her apparently. [/*]

Well, I am wondering...

If Ctina, days or weeks before CL left, knew about or suspected the murders (but didn't help in burying the bodies or covering up), could she legally be charged with a crime?

If CL had not been arrested and Ctina had met him in LV, could she be charged?

Can or will CL's Mexican uncle be charged with a crime, since he gave him a place to stay in Mexico?

[strick10]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


:o Quoting my own post because the entire PC is now available for viewing. The comments by Christina's lawyer begin at 19:10 in the video:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2723216/ [/*]

:rose:

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by JanDoe
where is the Link stating that Christina was in contact with Cesar behind the back of LE..... [/*]

Never saw that myself, I think it is opinion that she withheld evidence by emailing on computer and LE supposedly found letters at sisters residence when they confiscated computer and also diary.

:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by AmyO

Yet another wise post as always, GB! Like I said in a post a while back, the DA doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. Wishy-washy if you ask me. I hope he doesn't loose this case. SOMEONE killed Maria and her baby. It's not like he hasn't had months to put a case together! Sheesh! [/*]

I want to see the smoking gun against Cesar. 'Cause if all they've got is her being buried in THEIR backyard and a bunch of notes where he confesses to nothing but burying a suicide victim, I think it's going to be a tough road ahead.

[VC2]

Originally posted by SavannahStar


Many other times "is" was used instead of "was." Gotta disagree with ya here DG. :D [/*]

Lots of "is" was used.

and RS did not act as if they had the evidence to show she was involved but it was up to the DA to bring charges, he essentially said that all evidence was taken to the DA - obviously! - for decisions, and he also said that there was no evidence that she was involved. In fact RS was even more supportive of christina than Hudson, but both were

IMO

We need a full transcript from the presser video but i cant watch videos so i cant do it.

[JD81]

Originally posted by Lynn Gweeny


:o Quoting my own post because the entire PC is now available for viewing. The comments by Christina's lawyer begin at 19:10 in the video:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/2723216/ [/*]

Thanks so much Lynn.:rose:

[AmyO]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I want to see the smoking gun against Cesar. 'Cause if all they've got is her being buried in THEIR backyard and a bunch of notes where he confesses to nothing but burying a suicide victim, I think it's going to be a tough road ahead. [/*]
Yeah - me too. Who knows, maybe he'll cop a plea deal. This case just gets more intersting by the day!

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by daniel green


The police knew from about half an hour into her story the first time she was lying.

She did not break. They kept telling her to pls go get her babies so that they could be buried. [/*]

no, she did break and she told the truth about what she had done and where the boys could be found.

I hope Cesar breaks and tells the truth.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Did you notice when Sutherland stepped back up to speak he stressed that they (OCSD) have gathered the evidence and turned it over to the DA but it is up to the DA if charges are to be filed.

This reminds me of so many cases I have seen where LE spoke out how they tried to get the DA to bring certain charges on someone but the DA refused to take the case forward thinking they didn't have enough. Only for another DA later on to finally have a different POV and did press charges and went forward to trial.

IMO OCSD does believe CSL may have had some involvement but Hudson is not convinced there is enough evidence to go forward and I am beginning to believe for some reason he needs her testimony badly in this case. It makes me question just how much solid evidence they really have tying him to the crime and only him.

And saying she is a cooperating witness is a farce imo when secretly behind their back she is communicating with the fugitive. It seems when CSL gets her tail caught in a crack like when the SW was done she fesses up to her wrongdoing and goes back under the cooperating witness umbrella.

imoo [/*]
Very well said, as always, GB :) With both CL and Mrs. CL living in the house, the exact time of death unknown, the efforts to clean up the house, dispose of Maria's body in the fire pit, and so forth it would be hard to prove that they both weren't involved, imo. I wonder what his defense will be but he himself might have given us a clue already when he said "proof". Proof she was murdered? Yes, they have that. Proof he alone did it? Not from what we know so far. MOO

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by daniel green



He made me laugh out loud. It will tend to show.

Is this guy supposed to be an experienced defence lawyer? [/*]

It's times like these that make me miss Mark Geragos.

:D

[JanDoe]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Never saw that myself, I think it is opinion that she withheld evidence by emailing on computer and LE supposedly found letters at sisters residence when they confiscated computer and also diary.

:seeya: [/*]

I agree.....she was working with LEs imo

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by VC2


I have, when the public is trying to convict someone that they believe is not involved. I had the strong feeling that Hudson and Sutherland were very bothered by it and yet they are between a rock and a hard place since they cannot discuss the evidence. So all they can do is keep repeating that she is cooperating, she has been helpful, there is no evidence showing she was involved in any way but they also have to say (understandably) that if anything shows up after 3+ months of investigating that they HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF (their words) then it could change - that applied to anyone else as well.

IMO it was clear as day that they don't like the accusations against christina and they can't completely explain why they feel she is not involved in any way since they cannot release the evidence which is what it needs to stop the vicious rumors. All they can do is keep supporting her publically and making the point more than once that she is not part of it. (it is rare to see them come back to the mike to keep adding something they realized they could say to back up their belief unless they are sure imo)

imo

btw i am upset at the nbc link that lynn kindly found. In the q/a they added right after the cooperating family "specifically christina" and nbc left that out [/*]

Another good post, VC!

[daniel green]

Originally posted by n/t


:eek:

Did he really say that? Why the need to defend him? [/*]

What should our law enforcement say? That he IS an animal?

That we should stone him upon his return?

I am not sure why law enforcement reminding us that CL has not been convicted of anything yet and that he is not an animal or an exhibit is seen as a bad thing.

That is why we have the rule of law.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


It's times like these that make me miss Mark Geragos.

:D [/*]

Never mind Garagos.

But a good, experienced defense lawyer with PR experience like what's his name who represented Joran V D Sloot.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by Dunlurken
Two different sheriffs, two different cases. No comparison. JMO. [/*]
I agree, Dunnie. :)

[AmyO]

I will like to hear Christina's timeline on the day Maria was killed. Can she really account for all that time? If she came home any time after 7pm, blood was everywhere. What - did she NEVER come home that day, or the next day? The timeline is tight. I can't wait to hear her alibi.

[CANDYKISSES]

"(The Naval Criminal Investigative Service) decided to postpone taking a sample of her child's DNA until its birth due to the invasiveness of the DNA testing procedure," he wrote.

Kramlich wrote that Lauterbach later told a military prosecutor that "she was certain the child was not Cpl. Laurean's."

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/09/ddn041008turnerinside.html?cxntlid=inform_artr

[sunstar]

Originally posted by daniel green


Never mind Garagos.

But a good, experienced defense lawyer with PR experience like what's his name who represented Joran V D Sloot. [/*]
Joe Tacopina. I don't think CL could afford him!

[AmyO]

Originally posted by daniel green


Never mind Garagos.

But a good, experienced defense lawyer with PR experience like what's his name who represented Joran V D Sloot. [/*]
Joe Tacopina?

[bkwits]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Never saw that myself, I think it is opinion that she withheld evidence by emailing on computer and LE supposedly found letters at sisters residence when they confiscated computer and also diary.

:seeya: [/*]


What either SB or Captain Cutie stated that it is not a crime for Ctina to be communicating with Cesar. It only becomes a crime if she helped such as sending him money, etc. He said she didn't help him.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


That's right and just now I was impressed with Hudson's defense of Christina's still having love for her husband. [/*]

I was impressed with that.

His example of how people charged with crimes have family and friends supporting them and loving them in court rooms every day was a very good one.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by daniel green


What should our law enforcement say? That he IS an animal?

That we should stone him upon his return?

I am not sure why law enforcement reminding us that CL has not been convicted of anything yet and that he is not an animal or an exhibit is seen as a bad thing.

That is why we have the rule of law. [/*]

Maybe he has a feeling the MC may welcome him home or the general population might want to stone him. JMO

[daniel green]

Originally posted by AmyO

Joe Tacopina? [/*]


Yes. He is so good with the media.

Lord, I could not get his name out of my head to save my life.

Thank you!

[AmyO]

Well listen you all wonderful posters, I have to go for the evening. Keep the fires burning in pursuit of the truth in this case! You all have a nice evening!! :seeya:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by AmyO
I will like to hear Christina's timeline on the day Maria was killed. Can she really account for all that time? If she came home any time after 7pm, blood was everywhere. What - did she NEVER come home that day, or the next day? The timeline is tight. I can't wait to hear her alibi. [/*]
And the ME couldn't give an exact time of death, so it could be before 7pm, after 7pm, during the night, and so forth.

[daniel green]

Originally posted by StickyBeak


Maybe he has a feeling the MC may welcome him home or the general population might want to stone him. JMO [/*]

I did not think that it was anything about the marines. Not at all.

But that he will not be a high-profile inmate, and that he is innnocent till proven guilty.

That he is not an animal or some exhibit. I did think it had to do with the swarm of ppl who might go watch him be taken into custody in Onslow Cty.

[StickyBeak]

Originally posted by AmyO
Well listen you all wonderful posters, I have to go for the evening. Keep the fires burning in pursuit of the truth in this case! You all have a nice evening!! :seeya: [/*]

:seeya:

Hugging my bully dogs

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Joe Tacopina. I don't think CL could afford him! [/*]I doubt very much that JT wants to be associated with the likes of CL.

[SavannahStar]

Originally posted by daniel green


I was impressed with that.

His example of how people charged with crimes have family and friends supporting them and loving them in court rooms every day was a very good one. [/*]

Absolutely! Which reminds me that I had meant to respond to several posts way earlier by people who had mocked the fact that Christina still loves him. Well, you can love a person and hate their actions. Few people magically turn off their love of a person who has committed a crime, even a crime as heinous as murder. It's illogical to think that.

[bkwits]

Originally posted by crymeariver2006


I want to see the smoking gun against Cesar. 'Cause if all they've got is her being buried in THEIR backyard and a bunch of notes where he confesses to nothing but burying a suicide victim, I think it's going to be a tough road ahead. [/*]


NAH, I don't think so. I think they have plenty against CL that they haven't told us. LE has already told us that suicide has been ruled out. What jury, if it ever gets to a jury, is going to believe that CL didn't kill her (when he admits he buried and burned her, then ran away). IMO

[caejde]

So if I know where a fugitive is at and am in contact with him and have been for a couple months and he's asking me for help, I don't have to turn that in to authorities? And I can get away with it?

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
I doubt very much that JT wants to be associated with the likes of CL. [/*]
It would be interesting to hear what his strategy might be though.

[crymeariver2006]

Originally posted by daniel green


I did not think that it was anything about the marines. Not at all.

But that he will not be a high-profile inmate, and that he is innnocent till proven guilty.

That he is not an animal or some exhibit. I did think it had to do with the swarm of ppl who might go watch him be taken into custody in Onslow Cty. [/*]

Unless they never announce the day or time he'll be back in Onslow County, there will be a swarm of people. Bank on it. In fact, if I can get there in time.......

[daniel green]

Originally posted by SavannahStar
She won't be charged. Dewey says she's very torn. He is saying it all very well. [/*]

I am torn on this.

I don't know if she will be charged or not.

Duh, sorry, I know we don't know.

What I meant is I don't have a feeling about it.

Part of me agrees that if she is not arrested today, she won't be, and then I think, nah, she might be.

:confused:

[n/t]

Originally posted by daniel green


What should our law enforcement say? That he IS an animal?

That we should stone him upon his return?

I am not sure why law enforcement reminding us that CL has not been convicted of anything yet and that he is not an animal or an exhibit is seen as a bad thing.

That is why we have the rule of law. [/*]

There was no need to express an opinion of what they thought or not of him. Stick to legalties. Period.