Monday - 03/10/08 - a.m.

[donna]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I kid my neighbor who's from the south about her using Pinesol on her floors, and she kids me about my white vinegar saying it smells like a 'D' :D [/*]

:lol:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


Thanks, Lynn! I wonder why there are missing paint areas on the upper right side of that pic... looks almost like there was a large picture or something there that got painted around. Odd, and probably means nothing... [/*]
Looks to me like a reflection bounce from the flash or light coming in from the windows.

[strick10]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I think you're right about the MC sight requirements, Barbra. IIRC, someone speculated that her deteriorating eyesight may have been the reason she was facing discharge. [/*]

I don't think her eye sight was the reason she was facing a possible discharge.

[wandering]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


Thanks, Lynn! I wonder why there are missing paint areas on the upper right side of that pic... looks almost like there was a large picture or something there that got painted around. Odd, and probably means nothing... [/*]There are other light streaks on that wall, too, on the right. I think it's meaningless.

[henry]

Originally posted by BarbraAllen
Apologies if this has been discussed previously, but is it certain that is a tile floor? Could it be vinyl? Some of the vinyl these days can really look like tile on casual glance, imo. [/*]

to me it looks like planks 'cause there's no crossway grout lines . . . if my glasses are clean from the wet swiffer . . . i was previously looking at it 'cause there's usually telltale signs of cleaner grout if there was a rug on top . . . jmo

[donna]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't think her eye sight was the reason she was facing a possible discharge. [/*]

Sadly, I don't think so either, strick10.

[hinman]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't think her eye sight was the reason she was facing a possible discharge. [/*]I would say more then likely it was a different reason.

[Cardinal]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't think her eye sight was the reason she was facing a possible discharge. [/*]

Probably not. I was just hoping it might have been something so....mundane, I suppose. :(

Have a good evening, everyone. :seeya:

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by Cardinal


I see what you're referring to - but is it a reflection from an opposite window? [/*]

Could be...

There also seems to be some missing paint under the light switch in the hall...

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by BarbraAllen
Apologies if this has been discussed previously, but is it certain that is a tile floor? Could it be vinyl? Some of the vinyl these days can really look like tile on casual glance, imo. [/*]
Certainly could be, dunno :shrug:

[donna]

Originally posted by Cardinal


Probably not. I was just hoping it might have been something so....mundane, I suppose. :(

Have a good evening, everyone. :seeya: [/*]

I know, Cardinal, I wish it were something lesser also.
Have a great evening!

:seeya:

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Looks to me like a reflection bounce from the flash or light coming in from the windows. [/*]

The fuzzy area on the left side of that area appears to be a reflection of a window opposite. But the long vertical stripe and the horizontal stripe under it don't seem like a reflection, IMO.

[donna]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


The fuzzy area on the left side of that area appears to be a reflection of a window opposite. But the long vertical stripe and the horizontal stripe under it don't seem like a reflection, IMO. [/*]

I even hate to bring this up, but I just noticed something on the ceiling in the upper right hand corner! A stain, or where the roof may have leaked? Or what?

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Okay, she was pregnant (irregardless of who, what or why) and IF she had decided to keep her baby and IF she couldn't count on her family to help her with taking care of her child and IF she could not have the requred family plan for the care of the child as per the MC directives...PERHAPS a discharge specific to that situation was in the works. [/*]

I thought she had up to the 42 days to come up with her plan. Is that incorrect Nel?:confused:

[strick10]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


The fuzzy area on the left side of that area appears to be a reflection of a window opposite. But the long vertical stripe and the horizontal stripe under it don't seem like a reflection, IMO. [/*]

I agree. The lighter areas on the walls seems to be the light coming in and probably a reflection off of something we can't see. They did a pretty good job of cutting (no pun intended).

[donna]

It is just my personal opinion, but I do not think Maria ever intended to give the baby up for adoption, so she may not have had a family plan.

:shrug:

[strick10]

Originally posted by donna


I even hate to bring this up, but I just noticed something on the ceiling in the upper right hand corner! A stain, or where the roof may have leaked? Or what? [/*]

A vent maybe?

[donna]

Originally posted by strick10


I agree. The lighter areas on the walls seems to be the light coming in and probably a reflection off of something we can't see. They did a pretty good job of cutting (no pun intended). [/*]

And look up in the right hand corner of the ceiling.......looks like a stain to me!

[strick10]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Okay, she was pregnant (irregardless of who, what or why) and IF she had decided to keep her baby and IF she couldn't count on her family to help her with taking care of her child and IF she could not have the requred family plan for the care of the child as per the MC directives...PERHAPS a discharge specific to that situation was in the works. [/*]

I don't think so. The MC would've given her enough time to come up with a family plan. The family plan wasn't quite in the picture at the time of her death. The baby would've had to have been born and Maria would've had to made it known that she was keeping her son.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by nelkirk


I was thinking along the lines of a hardship discharge... [/*]

Yes a hardship discharge happens very frequently.

jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


And look up in the right hand corner of the ceiling.......looks like a stain to me! [/*]

That may be a vent...their house appears to have been built on a concrete slab instead of a foundation so the venting would be overhead.

jmo

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by donna


And look up in the right hand corner of the ceiling.......looks like a stain to me! [/*]

Not sure what that is...

When you look at the pic of the living room at 100%, you don't see that...

But when you enlarge it... it really appears like an odd angle... as if the brown paint is higher in the middle than on the right side.. does the wall bank backwards there? I can't figure out the angle...

[strick10]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Yes a hardship discharge happens very frequently.

jmo [/*]

True, but IMO the baby had to have been born before they could've even approached that issue. I don't think Maria was going to give up her son and with that in mind she may not have discussed the possibility of adoption with the MC or NCIS. To early to even consider a harship discharge IMO.

[strick10]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


That may be a vent...their house appears to have been built on a concrete slab instead of a foundation so the venting would be overhead.

jmo [/*]

Right you are nuttin

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


Not sure what that is...

When you look at the pic of the living room at 100%, you don't see that...

But when you enlarge it... it really appears like an odd angle... as if the brown paint is higher in the middle than on the right side.. does the wall bank backwards there? I can't figure out the angle... [/*]

Plus... the floor underneath that area doesn't seem to bank backwards... sheesh, not even a pic is consistent in this case!

[strick10]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


Not sure what that is...

When you look at the pic of the living room at 100%, you don't see that...

But when you enlarge it... it really appears like an odd angle... as if the brown paint is higher in the middle than on the right side.. does the wall bank backwards there? I can't figure out the angle... [/*]

If you enlarge to about 263 you can see that it is a vent. Looks like they didn't use flat paint either.

[strick10]

Wonder why the couch closest to the bottom is backed up so far. Looks like they partially placed it in the area where maybe the dining area is.

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


That may be a vent...their house appears to have been built on a concrete slab instead of a foundation so the venting would be overhead.

jmo [/*]

Had to leave for a few minutes. Thanks for the reply.
Guess I was making something from nuttin!

[donna]

Originally posted by strick10


If you enlarge to about 263 you can see that it is a vent. Looks like they didn't use flat paint either. [/*]

Looks like a glossy latex paint. Oh, well, I had started looking at the pic of the living room this afternoon when trying to see if the sofa was leather or fabric!

[lonetraveler]

I have been under the weather and have not been on this thread in a few days, could someone let me know if there has been any report if Cesar was the father of the baby? Also, how far along in the pregnancy was Maria?

[strick10]

I've spent most of the day trying to find something on CAL or his parents on mexican sites and obviously there is nothing that we haven't heard. Anyhow, the below link is a page by a female that states she knows where CAL is and shows a picture of a mexican signing group where one of the commentors states that they do resemble each other. I'm thinking he's talking about the guy to the right. Just goes to show how serious the citizens of Mexico are in trying to assist in the capture of CAL.

http://werfanita.blogspot.com/2008/01/yo-s-donde-esta-cesar-laurean.html

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Nothing in this case has been consistent and you expect a miracle?:D [/*]

lol.. nope.. but the right side of that living room... where what looks like the ceiling/vent showing through doesn't appear to match up with the bottom of the pic...

(slaps self)

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't think so. The MC would've given her enough time to come up with a family plan. The family plan wasn't quite in the picture at the time of her death. The baby would've had to have been born and Maria would've had to made it known that she was keeping her son. [/*]

I thought the MC rep did say she had told them she was going to keep the baby and that is the reason she gave them for wanting permission to move off base so she could get prepared for being a single mom with a baby.:shrug:

She mentioned nothing about moving because she was being harassed and only told that to her family.

imo

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by strick10
I've spent most of the day trying to find something on CAL or his parents on mexican sites and obviously there is nothing that we haven't heard. Anyhow, the below link is a page by a female that states she knows where CAL is and shows a picture of a mexican signing group where one of the commentors states that they do resemble each other. I'm thinking he's talking about the guy to the right. Just goes to show how serious the citizens of Mexico are in trying to assist in the capture of CAL.

http://werfanita.blogspot.com/2008/01/yo-s-donde-esta-cesar-laurean.html [/*]

lol - good find! Of course, I can't read any Spanish... but to me, none of those guys have the right eyebrows for CL... his eyebrows peak toward the outside, not the middle... but JMO.

(what does the blog say, btw?)

[gaelicpeas]

Strick... I am just glad to see that there is at least one Hispanic site following this case...

[strick10]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I thought the MC rep did say she had told them she was going to keep the baby and that is the reason she gave them for wanting permission to move off base so she could get prepared for being a single mom with a baby.:shrug:

She mentioned nothing about moving because she was being harassed and only told that to her family.

imo [/*]

You're absolutely right GB. Maria moving off base to make a home for her child gives the MC the big indication she was keeping her son. Just trying to give an explanation in my post as to why I didn't think Maria may have been facing a humanitarian discharge.

[CANDYKISSES]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I thought the MC rep did say she had told them she was going to keep the baby and that is the reason she gave them for wanting permission to move off base so she could get prepared for being a single mom with a baby.:shrug:

She mentioned nothing about moving because she was being harassed and only told that to her family.

imo [/*]

So GB, you are thinking while she was telling the USMC she was moving to get ready for her expected child, she was telling Mary et al she was moving due to pressure from others, Is that correct? That makes sense if Mary was thinking all along they were preparing for ADOPTION and Maria was knowing she wanted to keep the baby.

I never really thought of it that way. JMO. :shrug:

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10
I've spent most of the day trying to find something on CAL or his parents on mexican sites and obviously there is nothing that we haven't heard. Anyhow, the below link is a page by a female that states she knows where CAL is and shows a picture of a mexican signing group where one of the commentors states that they do resemble each other. I'm thinking he's talking about the guy to the right. Just goes to show how serious the citizens of Mexico are in trying to assist in the capture of CAL.

http://werfanita.blogspot.com/2008/01/yo-s-donde-esta-cesar-laurean.html [/*]

They do favor but I don't think it is him. CALs eyebrows are more straight across and the other guy his eyebrows tilts down on the ends.

imo

[strick10]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


lol - good find! Of course, I can't read any Spanish... but to me, none of those guys have the right eyebrows for CL... his eyebrows peak toward the outside, not the middle... but JMO.

(what does the blog say, btw?) [/*]

Just basically that the girl knows where CAL is and posts the picture. One commentor says she's overdone it in assuming such, one says that he dislikes the group even more now and one says that the band member resembles one of the guys.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by CANDYKISSES


So GB, you are thinking while she was telling the USMC she was moving to get ready for her expected child, she was telling Mary et al she was moving due to pressure from others, Is that correct? That makes sense if Mary was thinking all along they were preparing for ADOPTION and Maria was knowing she wanted to keep the baby.

I never really thought of it that way. JMO. :shrug: [/*]

I really don't even know Candy all I know is I strongly feel Maria had two completely opposite stories going at the same time for some unknown reason.

Things she said only to her family and things she only said to the MC. Which much of it was in total contrast to each other.

It was as if she was trying to live split lives. One for those in Ohio and another for those in NC.:shrug:

imoo

[donna]

Originally posted by strick10
I've spent most of the day trying to find something on CAL or his parents on mexican sites and obviously there is nothing that we haven't heard. Anyhow, the below link is a page by a female that states she knows where CAL is and shows a picture of a mexican signing group where one of the commentors states that they do resemble each other. I'm thinking he's talking about the guy to the right. Just goes to show how serious the citizens of Mexico are in trying to assist in the capture of CAL.

http://werfanita.blogspot.com/2008/01/yo-s-donde-esta-cesar-laurean.html [/*]

Thank you for the link, strick10! I am glad to know CAL is being talked about.

[strick10]

Originally posted by donna


Thank you for the link, strick10! I am glad to know CAL is being talked about. [/*]

Unfortunately that is the only talking out of the newpaper articles I've found. I was being sarcastic in my last sentence. I'm hoping that the good members of the LE in Mexico are looking though.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10


You're absolutely right GB. Maria moving off base to make a home for her child gives the MC the big indication she was keeping her son. Just trying to give an explanation in my post as to why I didn't think Maria may have been facing a humanitarian discharge. [/*]

Right, I understand what you are saying.

This poor girl DID want Gabriel imo and she wanted him very much. She was just so caught in what to do about it and who to please. I think in the end she gathered the courage to do what she wanted to do and what was in her heart and that was leave all the problems behind.

She could make contact later with her family and truly I think the love of the Corps was nothing in comparison to the baby she felt move inside of her.

Maria was adopted and I think she may have struggled with that at times in her life....trying so hard to fit in and be loved by her family and this makes me think Maria would never give Gabriel up knowing he could struggle with the same things.



imoo

[strick10]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Right, I understand what you are saying.

This poor girl DID want Gabriel imo and she wanted him very much. She was just so caught in what to do about it and who to please. I think in the end she gathered the courage to do what she wanted to do and what was in her heart and that was leave all the problems behind.

She could make contact later with her family and truly I think the love of the Corps was nothing in comparison to the baby she felt move inside of her.

Maria was adopted and I think she may have struggled with that at times in her life....trying so hard to fit in and be loved by her family and this makes me think Maria would never give Gabriel up knowing he could struggle with the same things.



imoo [/*]

[donna]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I really don't even know Candy all I know is I strongly feel Maria had two completely opposite stories going at the same time for some unknown reason.

Things she said only to her family and things she only said to the MC. Which much of it was in total contrast to each other.

It was as if she was trying to live split lives. One for those in Ohio and another for those in NC.:shrug:

imoo [/*]

I feel that way also, GB, and I am not saying it to be negative concerning Maria either.
I felt sorry for Maria when I read that her Mom and uncle were pressuring her to give the baby up. I just do not think that Maria had any intention of giving the baby up.
I know the mother and uncle felt they were doing what was best for Maria, but I still felt sorry for her nonetheless.

[strick10]

Originally posted by strick10
[/*]

ITA GB. I think Maria was finally going to do what Maria felt was right for her. Don't know what happened to my response above....site is acting kinda funny on me.

[donna]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Right, I understand what you are saying.

This poor girl DID want Gabriel imo and she wanted him very much. She was just so caught in what to do about it and who to please. I think in the end she gathered the courage to do what she wanted to do and what was in her heart and that was leave all the problems behind.

She could make contact later with her family and truly I think the love of the Corps was nothing in comparison to the baby she felt move inside of her.

Maria was adopted and I think she may have struggled with that at times in her life....trying so hard to fit in and be loved by her family and this makes me think Maria would never give Gabriel up knowing he could struggle with the same things.



imoo [/*]

ITA. Beautifully stated, GB.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by donna


I feel that way also, GB, and I am not saying it to be negative concerning Maria either.
I felt sorry for Maria when I read that her Mom and uncle were pressuring her to give the baby up. I just do not think that Maria had any intention of giving the baby up.
I know the mother and uncle felt they were doing what was best for Maria, but I still felt sorry for her nonetheless. [/*]

My heart breaks for Maria...she had so much pressure coming from so many directions. Being pulled every which way.

I know it is hard for us to think that a 20 year old could be that submissive to their parents wants but there are children out there that are still attached to the parental apron strings. I just think poor Maria thought her story had to be one where her mother would not look at her with disappointment. I see Maria as a very needy child trying to play a tough role when she really wasn't tough at all but very fragile.

I do feel that her family meant well but I wonder if they ever picked up any little indications that she really wanted her son.

imoo

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by dave sargent


Hey Ivy. Thanks for Pic. Looking at yard in it, I was wondering where the Tree was that the Dog was tied up to :confused: [/*]
I have no idea. The only tree I was able to see was this one, and it appears to be very close to the Alander's property.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2cejgcl.jpg

[strick10]

Nite all. Enjoy your evening posts. Gotta get used to this time change.:seeya:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by dave sargent


Hey Ivy. Thanks for Pic. Looking at yard in it, I was wondering where the Tree was that the Dog was tied up to :confused: [/*]

Annie could be right about the tree being imaginary, but I seem to recall when GVS was here that when she and RS walked around to the back of the Laurean home, they walked past a tree located on the side of the house (towards the Alander's). That may be the tree that the neighbors were referring to.

JMO as I can't find the link to GVS's video taken during her visit. (Help Lynn, please)

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by strick10
Nite all. Enjoy your evening posts. Gotta get used to this time change.:seeya: [/*]


:seeya:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by strick10
Nite all. Enjoy your evening posts. Gotta get used to this time change.:seeya: [/*]

Nite strick, have a good one! :seeya:

[donna]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


My heart breaks for Maria...she had so much pressure coming from so many directions. Being pulled every which way.

I know it is hard for us to think that a 20 year old could be that submissive to their parents wants but there are children out there that are still attached to the parental apron strings. I just think poor Maria thought her story had to be one where her mother would not look at her with disappointment. I see Maria as a very needy child trying to play a tough role when she really wasn't tough at all but very fragile.

I do feel that her family meant well but I wonder if they ever picked up any little indications that she really wanted her son.

imoo [/*]

I feel Maria was being pulled every which way as well. I think in the end, Maria felt too pressured. I had stated in the past that I wish she had had a very close female friend that she could confide in. Apparently she did not, and walked through her last days alone.

I feel Maria's family knew that she did not want to give Baby Gabriel up. Why else would they have kept talking to her about it?
I wonder how close she was to her sister, Anne?

I will always be heartsick about what happened to Maria and Gabriel.

[CanCan]

Originally posted by strick10


I don't think so. The MC would've given her enough time to come up with a family plan. The family plan wasn't quite in the picture at the time of her death. The baby would've had to have been born and Maria would've had to made it known that she was keeping her son. [/*]

Is the Family Plan where you have an official arrangement for the care for your child in the event that you are shipped overseas???? For example, Maria would have had an arrangement with Mary to care for Gabriel in this situation. TIA

[donna]

Originally posted by strick10
Nite all. Enjoy your evening posts. Gotta get used to this time change.:seeya: [/*]

:seeya: ... G'Night, strick10!

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by dave sargent


Maybe there is no dog :eek:

I thought one of the Neighbors was the source of Tree tying (back then front???) [/*]
Yes, the neigbors said it was a Poodle type dog.

Speaking of dogs. Wouldn't you think with slats missing from the fence that one of the Alander's dogs like their Lab
http://i30.tinypic.com/ogf0ia.jpg
would have picked up on a scent in the Laurean backyard rather than a Poodle type dog?

[CanCan]

Originally posted by donna


Had to leave for a few minutes. Thanks for the reply.
Guess I was making something from nuttin! [/*]

:lol:

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan


:lol: [/*]

:D .... hope she is not mad at me!!! I was joking!!

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Yes, the neigbors said it was a Poodle type dog.

Speaking of dogs. Wouldn't you think with slats missing from the fence that one of the Alander's dogs like their Lab
http://i30.tinypic.com/ogf0ia.jpg
would have picked up on a scent in the Laurean backyard rather than a Poodle type dog? [/*]

Any dog would pick up on that type of scent. Dogs are naturally drawn and I'm not going any further---do not want to be gross.

Even my Shih Tzu would have and she's a pampered little thing and mostly spoiled rotten.

jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


:D .... hope she is not mad at me!!! I was joking!! [/*]

Moi mad at you? NEVAH! :cool:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Annie could be right about the tree being imaginary, but I seem to recall when GVS was here that when she and RS walked around to the back of the Laurean home, they walked past a tree located on the side of the house (towards the Alander's). That may be the tree that the neighbors were referring to.

JMO as I can't find the link to GVS's video taken during her visit. (Help Lynn, please) [/*]
I posted a photo back a few links, the Board is acting up and you probably missed it.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2cejgcl.jpg

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Moi mad at you? NEVAH! :cool: [/*]

:D .... Love ya more than my luggage, nuttin!

[CanCan]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I really don't even know Candy all I know is I strongly feel Maria had two completely opposite stories going at the same time for some unknown reason.

Things she said only to her family and things she only said to the MC. Which much of it was in total contrast to each other.

It was as if she was trying to live split lives. One for those in Ohio and another for those in NC.:shrug:

imoo [/*]

ITA. I see Maria as being like a student in a classroom.

On one hand, trying to get the approval of the teacher.

On the other hand, trying to get the approval of his/her peers.

Drastically differing behaviors.

jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

I posted a photo back a few links, the Board is acting up and you probably missed it.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2cejgcl.jpg [/*]

Thanks Ivy, yes I missed it earlier!

So if we count the small one in the front area, that would actually make two trees present (I'm including the larger one over closer to the Alander's and you can see the shadow of it on the Laurean's house).

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Any dog would pick up on that type of scent. Dogs are naturally drawn and I'm not going any further---do not want to be gross.

Even my Shih Tzu would have and she's a pampered little thing and mostly spoiled rotten.

jmo [/*]
Exactly, and yet the neighbor only mentions the Laurean's dog being tied up in front. To me he was alluding to the dog being moved due to the grave, I may be wrong in why he mentioned it.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by IvySterling

Exactly, and yet the neighbor only mentions the Laurean's dog being tied up in front. To me he was alluding to the dog being moved due to the grave, I may be wrong in why he mentioned it. [/*]

There's no telling why he mentioned it.

I wonder if the Alander's tied their dogs up all the time?

[IvySterling]

Are the rest of you having problems with the Board???

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan


ITA. I see Maria as being like a student in a classroom.

On one hand, trying to get the approval of the teacher.

On the other hand, trying to get the approval of his/her peers.

Drastically differing behaviors.

jmo [/*]

[CanCan]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Yes, the Family Care Certificate...

Since the military and especially the Marine Corps can be sent into harms way on a moments notice there has to be a plan in place to take care of the childten in their absence and it has to be on file with the MC. [/*]

Thanks, nelkirk! :patriot:

[donna]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Are the rest of you having problems with the Board??? [/*]

Yes - big time problems - even with posting!

I have rebooted, defragged, etc. , yet it hasn't helped much. Did not even post my reply to CanCan - just her post! I was trying to tell her she had put it in excellent terms!!!

See this, CanCan?

:)

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by strick10


Just basically that the girl knows where CAL is and posts the picture. One commentor says she's overdone it in assuming such, one says that he dislikes the group even more now and one says that the band member resembles one of the guys. [/*]

thanks, Strick. Still an interesting find.. I would love to see more Mexican blogs like this. At least we know somebody down there is interested in this case.

[CanCan]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Are the rest of you having problems with the Board??? [/*]

Sure am, Ivy. :mad:

[caejde]

Originally posted by CanCan


Is the Family Plan where you have an official arrangement for the care for your child in the event that you are shipped overseas???? For example, Maria would have had an arrangement with Mary to care for Gabriel in this situation. TIA [/*]

The Family Care Plan encompasses a wide range from PT mornings, to normal workdays, to standing duty, to field operations, to deployments. It is very detailed as well. Once on file it is looked at every so often to see if any updates are needed. You do have a certain amount of time to get everything handed in. However, they do not just up and discharge you for not doing that. Chances are you will be disciplined and then given more time. And then probably a harsher punishment and then as a last resort a discharge. A hardship discharge is very hard to get. It's not the way it was years ago when a woman became pregnant and could just get out.

Also, there was mention of eyesight during pregnancy. I didn't wear contacts while I was pregnant. But I did have an eye exam. And the doc said that while you are pregnant your eyes can change due to hormonal changes and fluid retention. And she said if I wore contacts to just wear my glasses. Also, said to come back sometime well after postpartum to check my eyes again to see if any change was in fact a change or just due to pregnancy.

As for eye sight requirements. I think as long as it is corrected to 20/20. I was looking but didn't find the link. I know I have terrible vision, as does my husband, and my mother in law and we were all in the military. And my mother in law retired.

[CanCan]

Originally posted by donna


Yes - big time problems - even with posting!

I have rebooted, defragged, etc. , yet it hasn't helped much. Did not even post my reply to CanCan - just her post! I was trying to tell her she had put it in excellent terms!!!

See this, CanCan?

:) [/*]

:) :) Thanks, Donna!

[caejde]

Wish I could post more but I'm exhausted. We just got in about a half hour ago from Wilmington...had to get my 6 year old glasses. So, good night, and see everyone tomorrow!

[CanCan]

Originally posted by caejde


The Family Care Plan encompasses a wide range from PT mornings, to normal workdays, to standing duty, to field operations, to deployments. It is very detailed as well. Once on file it is looked at every so often to see if any updates are needed. You do have a certain amount of time to get everything handed in. However, they do not just up and discharge you for not doing that. Chances are you will be disciplined and then given more time. And then probably a harsher punishment and then as a last resort a discharge. A hardship discharge is very hard to get. It's not the way it was years ago when a woman became pregnant and could just get out.

Also, there was mention of eyesight during pregnancy. I didn't wear contacts while I was pregnant. But I did have an eye exam. And the doc said that while you are pregnant your eyes can change due to hormonal changes and fluid retention. And she said if I wore contacts to just wear my glasses. Also, said to come back sometime well after postpartum to check my eyes again to see if any change was in fact a change or just due to pregnancy.

As for eye sight requirements. I think as long as it is corrected to 20/20. I was looking but didn't find the link. I know I have terrible vision, as does my husband, and my mother in law and we were all in the military. And my mother in law retired. [/*]

And thanks to you, caejde! :patriot:

[IvySterling]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


There's no telling why he mentioned it.

I wonder if the Alander's tied their dogs up all the time? [/*]
I doubt that they did. Richard Alander said the little Mrs. lets the dogs out at the same time every morning.

She must let them out the front door and not the back or she wouldn't have seen all that she said she saw :)

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan


:) :) Thanks, Donna! [/*]

:) ... You are welcome, CanCan!

[donna]

Originally posted by caejde
Wish I could post more but I'm exhausted. We just got in about a half hour ago from Wilmington...had to get my 6 year old glasses. So, good night, and see everyone tomorrow! [/*]

:seeya: ... G'Night, caejde! Have a restful one!

[gaelicpeas]

I have two completely opposite theories going on in my mind...

One is the one some of you have been alluding to in recent posts.. that ML wanted to keep her baby, was telling the MC one story and her family another, etc, etc.

The other scenario is quite different. ML is very fearful of CL, she was in fact raped, the MC is threatening her with a discharge when she knows very well she didn't have sex after the mid-April incident, she is stressed about that..

And then that theory devolves into several other theories..

This is a tough case... IMO

[gaelicpeas]

JMO.. but given the facts we have.. I find it hard to believe that anybody can stand by any one given theory.

Now, if people are just taking sides in a betting contest sort of.. then that I can understand.

But given the facts we have, there are so many potential theories that are logically possible... I just can't throw all my money on any one of them, for what it's worth.

JMO

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by IvySterling
Are the rest of you having problems with the Board??? [/*]

Yes, the post are slow to load.

imoo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


Yes, the post are slow to load.

imoo [/*]

Yes it is s u p e r s l o w l o a d i n g and I'm on the fast cable.

Hope it's better tomorrow so I bid everyone adieu! See ya on the flipside.

:seeya:

Psst Ocean you have an incoming. ;)

And O/T, CHill PD has released two new photos of one of Eve Carson's killers this evening. He apparently tried to use her debit card at a convenience store either before or after the ATM attempt.

[CANDYKISSES]

Night guys! See ya tomorrow. :seeya:

[CANDYKISSES]

Hey Nuttin, it wasn't anything we didn't know already IMHO.

There was only one poster I know of that continued to say his answer about Maria and Cesar having contact didn't really mean contact.

He is definitely not barring Christina from possible involvement from what I read. That was much more clearcut from my POV.

Oh....:lol: the dog is new. jmo

[donna]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
JMO.. but given the facts we have.. I find it hard to believe that anybody can stand by any one given theory.

Now, if people are just taking sides in a betting contest sort of.. then that I can understand.

But given the facts we have, there are so many potential theories that are logically possible... I just can't throw all my money on any one of them, for what it's worth.

JMO [/*]

Well, actually, I would be willing to bet a few Sizzler coupons that there really WAS a rug in the living room!
Secondly, I would like to know if, even tho the ATM was broken in the Raleigh/Durham bus station, if the camera still working. Also would like to know whether or not the girl who says CAL bought the sunglasses is certain it was actually him.

In other words, is anyone absolutely certain they have seen CAL since 4:00 AM on 01/11/08? I know Wanda Alander said she saw him in his 'Marine outfit' between 8:00 AM and 8:30 AM. But CSL said he left at approximately 4:00 AM. So, which is right? There is so much we may never know.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Yes it is s u p e r s l o w l o a d i n g and I'm on the fast cable.

Hope it's better tomorrow so I bid everyone adieu! See ya on the flipside.

:seeya:

Psst Ocean you have an incoming. ;)

And O/T, CHill PD has released two new photos of one of Eve Carson's killers this evening. He apparently tried to use her debit card at a convenience store either before or after the ATM attempt. [/*]

Yeah me too.........it is frustrating but it seems better for now.

Okay dokie..........I'm ready.:D

imoo

[CanCan]

:seeya: Nite strick, caejde, candy & nuttin!

[donna]

Originally posted by WomanWithout
Stop calling me another poster's name.

Thanks [/*]

Okay, Chicky!

:seeya: ... Hope you have a good evening!

[CanCan]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Well it appears that Chicky's questions can be excluded from the list.

Hope all is well with you Chicky.

JMO [/*]

If I may ask, why would Chicky's questions be excluded from the list?

Am I missing something here?
TIA.

[hinman]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Last night I was reading some of the first media articles and one article has SB telling the media that CAL left the base at 4:00AM. Too many inconsistencies.

ETA In this article SB also said that she was murdered on the 15th. [/*]Did anyone ask Sutherland who was the last person to see CL besides Christina and at what time that was? If not I might have to add that to the question page.

[donna]

Originally posted by nelkirk


Last night I was reading some of the first media articles and one article has SB telling the media that CAL left the base at 4:00AM. Too many inconsistencies.

ETA In this article SB also said that she was murdered on the 15th. [/*]

Yes, too many inconsistencies for sure!

[donna]

Originally posted by GentleBreeze


I am confused. Were these questions asked by you WomanWithout? The reason I asked is you say you defend Christina all the time.........yet didn't you just show up on this board lately and have a very little overall post count?:confused:

I have only seen two posters defending Christina and neither one are you.:confused:

But it shows what a Prince CS is as #3 was like reading a novel lol.

I was under the impression that we were going to send in our questions to CS collectively. Guess not.

ETA: I thought he had already answered #1.

imoo [/*]

Yes, GB, and I am not one of her 'we'. It is clear what is happening.

There are some great questions and I am looking forward to the next batch from the BOARD being answered!


:)

[CanCan]

Hey....DONNA......can you help me with something here?????

IIRC, over on Websleuths, the posters were saying that CSL was selling her vacuum cleaner on that Camp J online Garage Sale.

Donna, hadn't you and I wondered if the photo of the L's livingroom was taken BEFORE the vacuum was put up for sale?

When I read the list of household items CSL had for sale on that GS site, I speculated that she was planning on getting the heck outta Dodge.

This reinforces the theory that CL's escape WAS planned.

jmo

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by WomanWithout


The contact between Maria and Cesar has now been narrowed down to the 14th.

Nothing about this case is funny to me. [/*]

How can you possible say that. You only ask him specifically about the 14TH!:confused:

imoo

[donna]

Originally posted by hinman
Did anyone ask Sutherland who was the last person to see CL besides Christina and at what time that was? If not I might have to add that to the question page. [/*]

hinman, that is a question I would be very interested in hearing the answer to!

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by Maka


What's up with extra i in the e-mail address? [/*]

Who knows. :shrug: and :confused: LOL

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan
Hey....DONNA......can you help me with something here?????

IIRC, over on Websleuths, the posters were saying that CSL was selling her vacuum cleaner on that Camp J online Garage Sale.

Donna, hadn't you and I wondered if the photo of the L's livingroom was taken BEFORE the vacuum was put up for sale?

When I read the list of household items CSL had for sale on that GS site, I speculated that she was planning on getting the heck outta Dodge.

This reinforces the theory that CL's escape WAS planned.

jmo [/*]

Sorry for the delay in answering you, CanCan! IIRC, over on the yard sale site, Christina had a vac for sale in early Jan.! It was only a couple of days then before all was taken off of her for sale items. The vac in the living room pic here appears rather new! Mine looks like I ran a derby with it!!
It was brought up at WebSlueths, I believe.

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Who knows. :shrug: and :confused: LOL [/*]

:shrug: ... It is not the same as the one you sent our questions to.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


:shrug: ... It is not the same as the one you sent our questions to. [/*]

This is the email address from which Sutherland answered my email: Rick_Sutherland@onslowcountync.gov . I sent the my original email to: rick_sutherland@co.onslow.nc.us .

I know the county changed it's original website from the co.onslow.nc.us to onslowcountync.gov but he obviously still receives email from the co.onslow.nc.us account or we wouldn't have gotten a response.

[donna]

CanCan, I remember our posts now! You may be right that Christina and Cesar really WAS planning on leaving! She had been selling household items on the yard sale site. Wonder what made it all go wrong and Maria be murdered?

Or, do you think that Maria's murder was planned by both Cesar and Christina? The murder reflected pure rage as well as overkill. This would seem to be a spur of the moment murder! That would not mean that the 2 Laureans had not planned on leaving anyway, tho.

[gaelicpeas]

hmm.. ok, I am confused. Did that poster just send an email to Captain Sutherland and got answers?

His answers don't fit what he usually writes, IMO. Just wonderin'....

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


This is the email address from which Sutherland answered my email: Rick_Sutherland@onslowcountync.gov . I sent the my original email to: rick_sutherland@co.onslow.nc.us .

I know the county changed it's original website from the co.onslow.nc.us to onslowcountync.gov but he obviously still receives email from the co.onslow.nc.us account or we wouldn't have gotten a response. [/*]

:shrug:

Still, there are not two i's in his email address!

You also have an incoming, nuttintodo!

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by donna


:shrug:

Still, there are not two i's in his email address!

You also have an incoming, nuttintodo! [/*]

I am completely missing the two i business.. maybe I need to have my specs adjusted... :D

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


Sorry for the delay in answering you, CanCan! IIRC, over on the yard sale site, Christina had a vac for sale in early Jan.! It was only a couple of days then before all was taken off of her for sale items. The vac in the living room pic here appears rather new! Mine looks like I ran a derby with it!!
It was brought up at WebSlueths, I believe. [/*]

I never saw the WebSlueths thread about the vacuum listing but I do distinctly remember it being discussed over at Lejeune Underground and some of the posters there confirmed that CSL did have the vac, along with some other items up for sale and then after this case broke, they were promptly removed from LYS (Lejeune Yard Sales). The LU crowd also posted that CSL's sister and brother in law also have/had accounts over on the LYS site.

And this is so O/T but LYS is being credited with a stolen Macaw being found last week. The fool who stole the Macaw posted that he had one for sale (just days after the bird was stolen now) and some of the faithful LYS'ers notified the bird's owner and the bird was returned to its rightful owner. And yes the fool was arrested and is in jail as I type.

JMO

[donna]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
hmm.. ok, I am confused. Did that poster just send an email to Captain Sutherland and got answers?

His answers don't fit what he usually writes, IMO. Just wonderin'.... [/*]

I don't think so either, gaelicpeas.

:(

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


:shrug:

Still, there are not two i's in his email address!

You also have an incoming, nuttintodo! [/*]

AH now I see the two i's! I swear I never saw them until just now. So hammer me, just do it gently, please.

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by donna


I don't think so either, gaelicpeas.

:( [/*]

ok, I will go back to playing spades, then.. thanks.. :)

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I never saw the WebSlueths thread about the vacuum listing but I do distinctly remember it being discussed over at Lejeune Underground and some of the posters there confirmed that CSL did have the vac, along with some other items up for sale and then after this case broke, they were promptly removed from LYS (Lejeune Yard Sales). The LU crowd also posted that CSL's sister and brother in law also have/had accounts over on the LYS site.

And this is so O/T but LYS is being credited with a stolen Macaw being found last week. The fool who stole the Macaw posted that he had one for sale (just days after the bird was stolen now) and some of the faithful LYS'ers notified the bird's owner and the bird was returned to its rightful owner. And yes the fool was arrested and is in jail as I type.

JMO [/*]

Thank you, nuttintodo. I tend to think the picture of CAL and ASL's living room was taken at the same time as the garage pics were. By LE.

[donna]

You all are gonna run me out of town if I keep on saying this, but from my POV, LE is leaving their options open as far as Christina goes. Nothing has been ruled out in this case!

[CanCan]

Originally posted by donna
CanCan, I remember our posts now! You may be right that Christina and Cesar really WAS planning on leaving! She had been selling household items on the yard sale site. Wonder what made it all go wrong and Maria be murdered?

Or, do you think that Maria's murder was planned by both Cesar and Christina? The murder reflected pure rage as well as overkill. This would seem to be a spur of the moment murder! That would not mean that the 2 Laureans had not planned on leaving anyway, tho. [/*]

I was thinking that CL & CSL were planning on running away because of the RAPE charge, thus were selling off all their household items.

But then the unplanned rage murder.......

jmo

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna
You all are gonna run me out of town if I keep on saying this, but from my POV, LE is leaving their options open as far as Christina goes. Nothing has been ruled out in this case! [/*]

And you better believe they are keeping their options open in regards to one CSL. I still say that DA Hudson will have the final say so on her.

Ahem, how am I to answer you if you don't break out that dustbuster every so often? LOL

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


And you better believe they are keeping their options open in regards to one CSL. I still say that DA Hudson will have the final say so on her.

Ahem, how am I to answer you if you don't break out that dustbuster every so often? LOL [/*]

Taking care of it now! Sorry!

[gaelicpeas]

I personally am leaning toward this whole thing being planned... definitely by CL, and possibly with the involvement of CSL, but not sure about that.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by donna


Thank you, nuttintodo. I tend to think the picture of CAL and ASL's living room was taken at the same time as the garage pics were. By LE. [/*]

IIRC Sutherland said as much while on GVS or some news outlet. He basically said this is how things looked when LE arrived on scene (I'm paraphrasing of course).

jmo

[CanCan]

Originally posted by donna


Sorry for the delay in answering you, CanCan! IIRC, over on the yard sale site, Christina had a vac for sale in early Jan.! It was only a couple of days then before all was taken off of her for sale items. The vac in the living room pic here appears rather new! Mine looks like I ran a derby with it!!
It was brought up at WebSlueths, I believe. [/*]

:lol: LOL @ ran a derby

[hinman]

Originally posted by donna
You all are gonna run me out of town if I keep on saying this, but from my POV, LE is leaving their options open as far as Christina goes. Nothing has been ruled out in this case! [/*]I think if anyone was ruled out they would of made it clear.

:)

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by donna
You all are gonna run me out of town if I keep on saying this, but from my POV, LE is leaving their options open as far as Christina goes. Nothing has been ruled out in this case! [/*]

I agree with this.

As posters have mentioned in the past, they have a much better chance of getting more information from her with her status as "cooperating witness" rather than "suspect" or "person of interest"? I don't believe for a moment that she is not watched 24/7; as some posters pointed out after Rick S. answered questions, he only spoke as to the sheriff's office not watching her 24/7.

I have to get in the habit of writing "jmo."

jmo

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan


:lol: LOL @ ran a derby [/*]

:D ... Well, I do get in a hurry sometimes!

I think you are right, CanCan, about CSL and CAL both planning to leave because of the rape.

[donna]

Originally posted by hinman
I think if anyone was ruled out they would of made it clear.

:) [/*]

Thanks, hinman!

Now I really will stop harping on it!!!!

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas
I personally am leaning toward this whole thing being planned... definitely by CL, and possibly with the involvement of CSL, but not sure about that. [/*]

I feel the planning only occurred after Maria's murder (I think her murder was a spur of the moment thing) and before CAL went skippety be bopping outta dodge.

But I'm sure CAL was literally sweating his butt off when the noose began to tighten around his neck.

It just gets me how easy it was for him to just literally walk off the face of the earth. Now if you or I tried to do something like that, we'd be caught in a NY minute.

jmo

[CanCan]

Originally posted by donna
You all are gonna run me out of town if I keep on saying this, but from my POV, LE is leaving their options open as far as Christina goes. Nothing has been ruled out in this case! [/*]

<huff*puff*huff*puff>

that's the sound of me running right along side you, Donna --- let's stop for Dairy Queen soon!

[BarbraAllen]

CandyKisses, I did find this about contact lens wearers and pregnancy:

Contact Lenses During Pregnancy
Vision may become slightly impaired or altered during pregnancy due to hormonal changes, dry eyes, and water retention. Moms-to-be may experience increased eye dryness, blurred or distorted vision, spots or even hemorrhages in the eye. If any of the symptoms occur, contact your eye care professional and obstetrician. Expectant mothers who require vision correction but are experiencing vision changes may want to consider disposable contacts, as these allow for new prescriptions and contacts quickly and at a lower cost than some other lenses. Some pregnant women should limit the number of hours per day that they wear contact lenses, due to possible eye changes, while some expectant mothers should not wear lenses at all. An eyecare professional can help you make these decisions. Most pregnant women find that their vision returns to normal soon after delivery.

There is lots more contact lenses information at the link:
http://www.contactlenscouncil.org/whatsnew.htm

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


IIRC Sutherland said as much while on GVS or some news outlet. He basically said this is how things looked when LE arrived on scene (I'm paraphrasing of course).

jmo [/*]

Thanks, nuttintodo.

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by CanCan


<huff*puff*huff*puff>

that's the sound of me running right along side you, Donna --- let's stop for Dairy Queen soon! [/*]

Please make sure you get me a Heath Bar Blizzard, TYVM! LOL

Now I am really going to bed. Nite all!

:seeya:

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I feel the planning only occurred after Maria's murder (I think her murder was a spur of the moment thing) and before CAL went skippety be bopping outta dodge.

But I'm sure CAL was literally sweating his butt off when the noose began to tighten around his neck.

It just gets me how easy it was for him to just literally walk off the face of the earth. Now if you or I tried to do something like that, we'd be caught in a NY minute.

jmo [/*]

Good idea, your signature and a few others I have seen. That nicely takes care of the opinion disclaimer without having to type it in every post. I think I'll try to do this as well, I hope you don't mind a copycat!

jmo

[hinman]

Originally posted by dave sargent


Dog (Lab I mean) is gorgeous. OMG. I had Aulander mixed up with Some other Dude [/*]you probably mixed him up with Menard or at least I think that is his name. I think they might live together. I did the same thing until someone pointed out to me they were different people.

[CanCan]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Please make sure you get me a Heath Bar Blizzard, TYVM! LOL

Now I am really going to bed. Nite all!

:seeya: [/*]

Yummy!! Will do!!

I'm right behind you, nuttin. Nite, Everybody - Take Care!
:seeya:

[hinman]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Please make sure you get me a Heath Bar Blizzard, TYVM! LOL

Now I am really going to bed. Nite all!

:seeya: [/*]:seeya: Time change is killing me, I can't sleep.

[hinman]

Originally posted by CanCan


Yummy!! Will do!!

I'm right behind you, nuttin. Nite, Everybody - Take Care!
:seeya: [/*]:seeya:

[nuttintodo]

Originally posted by BarbraAllen


Good idea, your signature and a few others I have seen. That nicely takes care of the opinion disclaimer without having to type it in every post. I think I'll try to do this as well, I hope you don't mind a copycat!

jmo [/*]

I don't mind at all. And I just have a habit of putting JMO at the end of each of my posts. After you've been here a while it just comes naturally.

If you don't know how to do the signature, simply look up near the top of your screen for usercp and go there, that's where you add your signature, location, etc.

Welcome to the boards!

[donna]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


Please make sure you get me a Heath Bar Blizzard, TYVM! LOL

Now I am really going to bed. Nite all!

:seeya: [/*]

:seeya: ... G'Night, nuttin!

[donna]

Originally posted by CanCan


<huff*puff*huff*puff>

that's the sound of me running right along side you, Donna --- let's stop for Dairy Queen soon! [/*]

:D ... You got it!

[donna]

Originally posted by Jas.S


Oh wait a minute. All this time and all this talk about a poodle and nobody has seen it???

Where did the poodle talk come from? :shrug:

TIA [/*]

:D ... the 'poodle' is as illusive as Christina! No pics of either! Wanda has seen them both, tho!

[donna]

Originally posted by Jas.S


Well, I'll be darned.

The illusive poodle type dog that nobody's seen.

BTW, doesn't websleuths or someone have pics of CSL with her face blurred? I was looking there the other day when someone here mentioned the board and I thought they had some? [/*]

Sorry for the delay in answering, Jas.S. I was reading some earlier posts.

Yes, there are, or were, blurred pics of CSL on Websleuths as well as on this board at one time. However, there are no pics of Christina without the blurring. I still would like to see a pic of her sans blurring!

[donna]

:seeya:

G'Night to anyone still left here!

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by Jas.S



That is not what RS said in his reply to Nuttin. There was no mention of the sheriff's office "not watching her 24/7." The question, and the answer, were about police protection.

It was:

28) Where Mrs. Laurean is staying now, is it true there is an unmarked car parked their 24/7?

There is no person in this County receiving 24/7 protection from the Sheriff's Office (other than the inmates in our Jail) [/*]

I said this: "he only spoke as to the sheriff's office not watching her 24/7."

And then there is Rick S' quote: "There is no person in this County receiving 24/7 protection from the Sheriff's Office (other than the inmates in our Jail)"

------------

Oh dear.
I did paraphrase what I said. It is true that instead of "her" he said "no person in this county." However, the question was in reference to Mrs. Christina Laurean and I did not use a direct quote from Rick S. So I certainly hope I did not violate board rules here.

In my opinion, it is noteworthy to be taken that he specified "sheriff's office." And does not mention that other branches of LE might or might not be watching Christina L. I also think a key phrase in his answer might be "24/7 protection."

I believe there's a difference in "24/7 protection" and "24/7 surveillance", wouldn't you agree?

But, sorry for any confusion I might have inadvertently created.

And, jmo!

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by BarbraAllen


I said this: "he only spoke as to the sheriff's office not watching her 24/7."

And then there is Rick S' quote: "There is no person in this County receiving 24/7 protection from the Sheriff's Office (other than the inmates in our Jail)"

------------

Oh dear.
I did paraphrase what I said. It is true that instead of "her" he said "no person in this county." However, the question was in reference to Mrs. Christina Laurean and I did not use a direct quote from Rick S. So I certainly hope I did not violate board rules here.

In my opinion, it is noteworthy to be taken that he specified "sheriff's office." And does not mention that other branches of LE might or might not be watching Christina L. I also think a key phrase in his answer might be "24/7 protection."

I believe there's a difference in "24/7 protection" and "24/7 surveillance", wouldn't you agree?

But, sorry for any confusion I might have inadvertently created.

And, jmo! [/*]

Yes, Captain Sutherland says no one in OC is receiving 24/7 protection other than prisoners. He made no mention of surveillance.

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by Jas.S


Well, I'll be darned.

The illusive poodle type dog that nobody's seen.

BTW, doesn't websleuths or someone have pics of CSL with her face blurred? I was looking there the other day when someone here mentioned the board and I thought they had some? [/*]

Yes, I saw the pictures there recently. I can't remember, though, if it is a separate picture thread. You might try looking on some of the early threads on the forum if there is not a picture thread.

and, jmo.

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by Jas.S

Of course there is.

But in your post upthread you said that RS said the sheriff's office were not watching her 24/7--in reference to keeping tabs on her.

Originally posted by BarbraAllen




Which is not what he said or about what the question or answer were.

The question and answer were about protection, not surveillance. [/*]

No. This was the question; I pulled it directly from your post, so I will assume it is accurate.

28) Where Mrs. Laurean is staying now, is it true there is an unmarked car parked their 24/7?


There is nothing said about protection. Or surveillance, for that matter. It appears to me that you drew an inference from the question and answer, just as I did.

I suppose it is a mistake to paraphrase anything here; I will make every effort not to do that in the future.

And, jmo.

[BarbraAllen]

Originally posted by nuttintodo


I don't mind at all. And I just have a habit of putting JMO at the end of each of my posts. After you've been here a while it just comes naturally.

If you don't know how to do the signature, simply look up near the top of your screen for usercp and go there, that's where you add your signature, location, etc.

Welcome to the boards! [/*]

Thank you for the welcome & for the signature instructions. I will give it a try, we will see if I am successful!

[gaelicpeas]

Just to clarify... this is Captain Sutherland's response to q28:

28) Where Mrs. Laurean is staying now, is it true there is an unmarked car parked their 24/7? There is no person in this County receiving 24/7 protection from the Sheriff's Office (other than the inmates in our Jail)

[crymeariver2006]

Wonder why Christina wouldn't request "protection"? I mean, she did turn in a murderer's notes to the police and she didn't even know where he had gone, whether he'd be back later that day, or if he had just driven over to a friend's house. Right?

:eek: