Discussion - March 6th.

[field of snow]

Originally posted by decor

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would you like someone to analyze you, diagnose you, and judge you solely from what they find on the internet about you? [/*]

I am barely putting up with you doing it, but I can cope.

:(

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by need2no


Funny, I had the same questions plus one more:

3. Are you related to CF or NF? [/*]

You know me :D and I'm not related to NF or CF...

I think what gets to some is when Christine is called things like money grubbing, harpie etc.. like she has been on here. I think some see that no matter what CF does it's wrong.. if she says something, it's not the right thing.. if she doesn't say anything.. why isn't she talking.

I can see speculating and trying to come up with answers, but the constant dogging a person does get old for some. It's easy to tell someone to just leave if you don't like it, but they have just as much right to be here as anyone else does.

Need2, knows about my daughter, I think.. I'm not going to get in to it here.. but you go through all kinds of emotions when someone is missing.. and yes, you do go through stages of anger also.. it's a rollercoaster ride that won't stop and let you off no matter how much you want to.

[soyesterday]

Originally posted by isitme
I have two questions for those that get riled up when things appear to be going against CF:

!. Do any of you KNOW her personally?

2. Could one of you be CF? [/*]

That is something i would like to know too.
I've definatley thought that for a while now.
This defensiveness (sp?)....is that a word?....
defending Christine so much and getting so upset about people talking about her is getting to be too much....
what is up w/ that???
If one of you is CF, just say so already.

[K Anne]

Originally posted by isitme
I have two questions for those that get riled up when things appear to be going against CF:

!. Do any of you KNOW her personally?

2. Could one of you be CF? [/*]

*I* could know her personally. *I* could be CF. How does that make any difference? I have been right alongside everyone else in exploring ideas and original thought. And I've pretty much managed to do it without bashing her.

"3. Did any of you come here to support CF?"

I came here to advance progress on the case. How about you?

"3. Are you related to CF or NF?"

What if I answer YES to all of those questions. Then what?

[field of snow]

Originally posted by K Anne


*I* could know her personally. *I* could be CF. How does that make any difference? I have been right alongside everyone else in exploring ideas and original thought. And I've pretty much managed to do it without bashing her.

"3. Did any of you come here to support CF?"

I came here to advance progress on the case. How about you?

"3. Are you related to CF or NF?"

What if I answer YES to all of those questions. Then what? [/*]

I thought you *could be* the reporter involved in the article that never got published today?

I think a lot of us have progressed our thoughts and ideas. It gets stalled everytime when someone whines about what they perceive to be Christina bashing.

And I really think your starred out swearing is pretty crude and i'm guessing the point maybe was to get this thread locked and shut down? Congratulations if that happens.

[soyesterday]

What if we were talking about Drew whatshisname....or Scott Peterson....
would you be defending them too?????

[mc528]

Originally posted by decor


but that is the point isitme. It is NOT bringing him home. [/*]


I agree, right now Nicholas is still not yet home. However, it is entirely possible that something discussed in one of the threads here, or another board, may very well help LE and/or the PI locate NF. There have been some very interesting theories and opinions shared. One of these threads could very well be the piece of the puzzle that brings NF home.....which is what I truly believe everyone here wants. IMO/JMO

[isitme]

Originally posted by decor


but that is the point isitme. It is NOT bringing him home. [/*]

You asked: "would you like someone to analyze you, diagnose you, and judge you solely from what they find on the internet about you?"

So expounding on my response I say: If I were in that position it would not matter to me what people thought of me, or our lives. I would truly hope that I would have as many open minded people looking into the matter as CF and NF have here. Asking questions, doing research, from EVERY angle!! Good or bad, if it helped in anyway I would welcome it.

Currently, no NF has not been brought home. Will anything that is said here help that to happen. Nobody knows that for sure. But it could. If you thought that it was totaly useless for us to be discussing this then why did you bother to join? After all it appears that you think what is going on here useless in bringing about a resolution to the matter of NF's disappearance.

[field of snow]

Originally posted by soyesterday
What if we were talking about Drew whatshisname....or Scott Peterson....
would you be defending them too????? [/*]

Hans Reiser, also. All sorts of comments about his odd behavior. I tend to think he might just be odd and not guilty based on various things i've read, but I am not going to go over to that thread and start telling off everyone for focusing on his weird geeky personality.

I did find some other regular posters here (not involved right now) make comments on the Drew Peterson forum that were judgmental opinions of family members. It's funny how it's okay in that case..

[decor]

Beth
I will be here for you just don't come up missing!!

how many of you were on the Etsy thread when it started? when people could only say nice things and weren't allowed to say anything that might portray the situation or the people in a bad light?

this thread has turned into exactly that but just the opposite.

on this side of the river very few want to say anything nice and only want to portray the people involved in a negative light.

there IS a middle ground.

I hated that thread on Etsy and I think it actually hurt CF more than helped because it did put her in a bad light. It also made her see that people would stand behind her so she could say things like how dare you say those things.

Now in the beginning of this whole thing I did make my judgments and what I thought were possibilities but they have changed several times. I wasn't for or against anyone. I was just trying to see what was going on.

But because there are so many against CF here, until it is proven that she has actually done something serious I am going to stand up for her here and be a voice for her. Not because I believe she is innocent of everything but because every one of us is entitled to have a voice.

[field of snow]

Originally posted by Beth
I'm sure many believe Nicholas does not want to be brought home. [/*]

Not anymore at least. I think the dude needs to get over whatever crisis he had and show his face and get this over with. I'm personally begging him so I can stop banging my head on my monitor when things go crazy on here. (like now)

[need2no]

Originally posted by HarlettOhara


You know me :D and I'm not related to NF or CF...

I think what gets to some is when Christine is called things like money grubbing, harpie etc.. like she has been on here. I think some see that no matter what CF does it's wrong.. if she says something, it's not the right thing.. if she doesn't say anything.. why isn't she talking.

I can see speculating and trying to come up with answers, but the constant dogging a person does get old for some. It's easy to tell someone to just leave if you don't like it, but they have just as much right to be here as anyone else does.

Need2, knows about my daughter, I think.. I'm not going to get in to it here.. but you go through all kinds of emotions when someone is missing.. and yes, you do go through stages of anger also.. it's a rollercoaster ride that won't stop and let you off no matter how much you want to. [/*]


:seeya: Harlett! Yes, I can vouch for you, and you are not CF or NF, lol. And I do know the heartbreaking story about your daughter, and that you have sincere empathy for others as a result of what you've been through, and lost, (not to mention you are just a kind lady.)

When I saw the first interview with Christine my hinky meter went off and I'll tell you I felt so guilty for feeling this way. Then I saw a thread for Nicholas and started reading and realized I wasn't the only one who felt this way so there must be something there worthy of discussion.

But I agree sometimes crude remarks and snarkyness gets out of hand and is unnecessary and hurtful. I also think a big problem is when posters pop in and put others down for their comments and try to stop freedom of speech or get the board shut down. I would prefer they debate and defend their position rather than create havoc on the board. It would be much more productive to try to prove their stance.

See ya on the other board. :seeya:

[Musterion]

Originally posted by Beth
I tend to agree with the masses here, and have also made some observations of my own about Christine. With that said, if I ever go missing someday, I would like to request in advance, decor and musterion's presence in any and all my threads. [/*]

God forbid that Beth. But, I would be there for you if I could! And I would hope to be there for you if your SO went missing, too.

[MystryPhobia]

Originally posted by decor
Beth
I will be here for you just don't come up missing!!

how many of you were on the Etsy thread when it started? when people could only say nice things and weren't allowed to say anything that might portray the situation or the people in a bad light?

this thread has turned into exactly that but just the opposite.

on this side of the river very few want to say anything nice and only want to portray the people involved in a negative light.

there IS a middle ground.

I hated that thread on Etsy and I think it actually hurt CF more than helped because it did put her in a bad light. It also made her see that people would stand behind her so she could say things like how dare you say those things.

Now in the beginning of this whole thing I did make my judgments and what I thought were possibilities but they have changed several times. I wasn't for or against anyone. I was just trying to see what was going on.

But because there are so many against CF here, until it is proven that she has actually done something serious I am going to stand up for her here and be a voice for her. Not because I believe she is innocent of everything but because every one of us is entitled to have a voice. [/*]

I totally agree about everything you said and thank you for saying it.

:patriot:

[decor]

Originally posted by MystryPhobia


I totally agree about everything you said and thank you for saying it.

:patriot: [/*]

and thanks for agree with me :)

[mc528]

Originally posted by decor
Beth
I will be here for you just don't come up missing!!

how many of you were on the Etsy thread when it started? when people could only say nice things and weren't allowed to say anything that might portray the situation or the people in a bad light?

this thread has turned into exactly that but just the opposite.

on this side of the river very few want to say anything nice and only want to portray the people involved in a negative light.

there IS a middle ground.

I hated that thread on Etsy and I think it actually hurt CF more than helped because it did put her in a bad light. It also made her see that people would stand behind her so she could say things like how dare you say those things.

Now in the beginning of this whole thing I did make my judgments and what I thought were possibilities but they have changed several times. I wasn't for or against anyone. I was just trying to see what was going on.

But because there are so many against CF here, until it is proven that she has actually done something serious I am going to stand up for her here and be a voice for her. Not because I believe she is innocent of everything but because every one of us is entitled to have a voice. [/*]


As I stated in my first thread here, I was also over in Etsy-world when CF first let everyone know of NF's disappearance. I followed every one of those threads, so I know exactly what you're saying about that. However, I'll respectfully disagree that the threads here are exactly, but opposite. Yes, there have been some things that should have been worded differently, and probably some things that should not have been said at all, but not everyone here has been CF bashing even when they may be expressing doubt or asking questions to try and piece this puzzle together.

And, I'll second Beth....if my hubby ever goes missing I hope you're in the threads about him too. :)

[decor]

Originally posted by mc528



As I stated in my first thread here, I was also over in Etsy-world when CF first let everyone know of NF's disappearance. I followed every one of those threads, so I know exactly what you're saying about that. However, I'll respectfully disagree that the threads here are exactly, but opposite. Yes, there have been some things that should have been worded differently, and probably some things that should not have been said at all, but not everyone here has been CF bashing even when they may be expressing doubt or asking questions to try and piece this puzzle together.

And, I'll second Beth....if my hubby ever goes missing I hope you're in the threads about him too. :) [/*]

I never said that everyone was doing it and if I implied it I apologize. But you know how the negative will shout over the positive or the threads that are actually trying to be productive.
I can be reading along fine thinking oh I never thought of that and all of a sudden it starts and throws the entire discussion off. and I think oh brother here we go.

[Silver_Dove]

Originally posted by decor


but that is the point isitme. It is NOT bringing him home. [/*]

Wow maybe we should all log out I suspect nothing we do will being him home. Well other then if he left because things were bad and he reads this and find that everyone doesn't think she is perfect. :D

[decor]

Originally posted by Silver_Dove


Wow maybe we should all log out I suspect nothing we do will being him home. Well other then if he left because things were bad and he reads this and find that everyone doesn't think she is perfect. :D [/*]

and do you really think he cares what a whole bunch of strangers think about whether we think she is perfect or not.

I hate to tell you this but thru this whole thing I have believed that he really does love Christine. Doesn't mean he didn't do something he shouldn't have done.

For all of the husbands that said he left because of her only means THEY would have left her because of her. No one knows what Nick likes and dislikes unless they know him. I don't know him but I do feel he loves her and could give a rat's --- what anyone here thinks.

[decor]

mc528

I would be there for you too but NONE of you better end up missing, hear me?

[Silver_Dove]

Originally posted by decor


and do you really think he cares what a whole bunch of strangers think about whether we think she is perfect or not.

I hate to tell you this but thru this whole thing I have believed that he really does love Christine. Doesn't mean he didn't do something he shouldn't have done.

For all of the husbands that said he left because of her only means THEY would have left her because of her. No one knows what Nick likes and dislikes unless they know him. I don't know him but I do feel he loves her and could give a rat's --- what anyone here thinks. [/*]

*blink* oh my, you are upset. Is it something that happened to you? Sorry I upset you.

[decor]

Originally posted by Silver_Dove


*blink* oh my, you are upset. Is it something that happened to you? Sorry I upset you. [/*]

whoops! sorry. I am not upset at all. I just don't think that people's opinions here are anywhere in his radar of being a priority. why should he care what anyone thinks here?

and the assumption that he feels the same way you do about Christine is pretty well.......

[need2no]

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http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=325955



:seeya: Night all..pleasant dreams.


:rose: for the Francisco family.

[Kamiron]

Originally posted by Amaryllis


Sure gives me a creepy feeling.........I don't like her snarky way of posting the FACTS on her site either....It's all about her.......ME,me,me.I,I,I........Where is the Please don't forget my husband......Poor Nicholas is probably laying dead somewhere........killed by someone he trusted......And yes I will go there....I think it was foul play......And people just get a little mad because it's hitting close to home........I can't believe someone would not go to a vigil for their missing loved one.......Unless they were near death themselves or in the hosiptal......or out of the country or state maybe......This case is like I said just to neat.to perfect....Something is hinky........

So Maybe a BIG maybe if he did run off did anyone think maybe he might have went by boat? Just a thought....I'll eat Crow if he did run off...I still think someone done him in.....MOO!
Nicholas IF you are out there please let someone know....... [/*]

I will eat crow too if he did runoff. Foul play is amiss and I feel so much for whatever happened to Nick. It took a while for Brianna to show up and yes, foul play is happening to men too.

[abstr]

No Compete Clause. I work in Marketing and when I worked for large companies it was standard practice that you had to sign a No Compete. The ones I signed restricted me from working for another company marketing in the same industry for a period of time.
I have a friend who works in another industry and hers was about the distance away of the new company by # of miles.

Originally posted by desmom


I would think the ad agency business could be pretty cut throat.

DH works (and I worked) for 2 different internationally known companies. Both companies required their employees to sign a contract stating we understood we could not go to work for a competitor or contract with their custsomers with in XX number of years if we left their employment. (I know there is a term for this contract, but I can't think of the name. LOL!)

I wonder if NF had to sign one with Publicis.

jmo [/*]