2/27 - Court @ 8:15 mountain time

[dsmith]

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Warren Jeffs Moved to Arizona to Face Charges of Arranging Teen Marriages There
Tuesday, February 26, 2008

PHOENIX — Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs is now in the custody of Arizona authorities to face charges in the marriages of two teenage girls to older men.

Authorities said Tuesday that deputies from the Mohave County Sheriff's Office have taken custody of him from Utah officials.

He's scheduled to make an appearance in court on Wednesday, 2 1/2 years after prosecutors in the northwestern Arizona county filed charges against him and he went into hiding.

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by Tennessean


IMHO, Jeffs did nothing illegal, and the charges brought against are just a bunch of bull. [/*]

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Well IMO, what he did under the name of religion aquaints with pimping young girls into the sex slave trade. I would wager that if it were you as a young boy being sold to some old coot pedaphile you would think a bit differently.............

[dsmith]

Originally posted by Tennessean


IMHO, Jeffs did nothing illegal, and the charges brought against are just a bunch of bull. [/*]

jmoo by your imho he did nothing wrong Why is it the US says what he did was illegal I have no problem with anyone having any church and beliefs for themselves but to do what he did was wrong in the eyes of the law and wrong in the eyes of the people who are now finding out just what kind of church the FLDS is

[duncan]

Originally posted by dsmith
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Warren Jeffs Moved to Arizona to Face Charges of Arranging Teen Marriages There
Tuesday, February 26, 2008

PHOENIX — Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs is now in the custody of Arizona authorities to face charges in the marriages of two teenage girls to older men.

Authorities said Tuesday that deputies from the Mohave County Sheriff's Office have taken custody of him from Utah officials.

He's scheduled to make an appearance in court on Wednesday, 2 1/2 years after prosecutors in the northwestern Arizona county filed charges against him and he went into hiding. [/*]



Good, Jeffs is a bad man. omo

[dsmith]

Warren Jeffs
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Warren Jeffs Moved to Arizona to Face Charges of Arranging Teen Marriages There
Tuesday, February 26, 2008

PHOENIX — Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs is now in the custody of Arizona authorities to face charges in the marriages of two teenage girls to older men.

Authorities said Tuesday that deputies from the Mohave County Sheriff's Office have taken custody of him from Utah officials.

He's scheduled to make an appearance in court on Wednesday, 2 1/2 years after prosecutors in the northwestern Arizona county filed charges against him and he went into hiding.

Jeffs, 52, will make an initial appearance before Mohave County Superior Court Judge Steven F. Conn at 8:15 a.m. Wednesday.

[dsmith]

Polygamy-outreach bill is moving fast
Article Last Updated: 02/25/2008 01:45:19 AM MST


The Utah Attorney General's request for money to hire a coordinator for the state's outreach to polygamous communities is moving swiftly through the Legislature. SB239, sponsored by Sen. Curtis S. Bramble, R-Provo, would create a Safety Net Initiative task force within the Attorney General's Office and provide $306,900 in annual funding. It cleared a committee last week and is on the Senate's reading calendar. The money would pay for a coordinator and a case manager; help keep the Utah Link Line operating 24 hours; and provide training and travel money. Paul Murphy, spokesman for Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, has overseen the Safety Net since its creation four years ago. The consortium includes representatives of state agencies, nonprofit organizations, law enforcement and polygamous communities, and it addresses domestic violence, sexual abuse and maltreatment issues. - Brooke Adams

Next step: Senate floor

http://www.sltrib.com/


I think this is a step in the right direction

[dsmith]

http://www.sltrib.com/

Two Mohave County grand juries indicted Jeffs in 2005 and 2007 on charges related to underage marriages.
Jeffs is named in five different cases in Arizona on charges of sexual conduct with a minor and conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor. The offenses are class 6 felonies, punishable by four months to two years in prison or probation. He also is charged with incest as an accomplice, a class 4 felony.

Michael Piccarreta, a Tucson defense attorney who is representing Jeffs, has asked that Jeffs be allowed to appear in court wearing street clothes rather than a jail jumpsuit, as he did in Utah.
Piccarreta also plans to ask that the trial be moved out of Mohave County because of "massive amounts of unfavorable media coverage" of the Jeffs case.
Judge Conn already has ordered that no photography will be allowed inside the courtroom during Jeffs' proceedings. Arizona does allow audio recording during court hearings; Conn has not banned use of audio equipment.
Piccarreta will be assisted by Richard Wright, a high-profile Las Vegas, Nev., attorney who also helped represent Jeffs in Utah

[dsmith]

Well I am the only one here but I must say I can not wait until this trial starts I only picked out a few things to post out of the article So hopefully in the morn some will join me watching or at least hearing the trial

[ppkpdp05]

Originally posted by Tennessean


IMHO, Jeffs did nothing illegal, and the charges brought against are just a bunch of bull. [/*]

Not only is it illegal to set up teen marriages with older men but isn't poligamy illegal in the US?

[dsmith]

Originally posted by ppkpdp05


Not only is it illegal to set up teen marriages with older men but isn't poligamy illegal in the US? [/*]

teens can marry in many states with their parents permission but what Warren Jeff's did is mary teens to older men who already had legal wives by law and yes polygamy is illegal in the US it just seems out in some states they turn a blind eye to it jmoo

[Details]

What he did is force underage girls into marriages they didn't want through threat, supporting their rapes by these older men he's feeding them to. Yeah - nothing wrong with that!

[ppkpdp05]

WELL IN MY OPINION ONLY THIS GUY IS SICK AND ANYONE WHO THINKS HE DID NOTHING WRONG IS SICK ALSO, OR DISTURBED ANYWAY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ONLY!

[texski]

Originally posted by ppkpdp05
WELL IN MY OPINION ONLY THIS GUY IS SICK AND ANYONE WHO THINKS HE DID NOTHING WRONG IS SICK ALSO, OR DISTURBED ANYWAY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ONLY! [/*] and in my opinion also, thanks for your post.
i hope the thread keeps those of us informed who are unable to spend much time on internet and daytime tv.
i read that the group that moved to texas is building new houses like mad, have to have somewhere for 100 kids born to old goats. all in the name of religion, satan on earth.

[dsmith]

I really hope a lot of people pay attention pay attention to this trial This is going on in the US not just with the FLDS I think though not sure Young children made to do something that they never should have been made to do I think Warren Jeffs should get life in jail and never let out and so with the others who do the same thing I will try very hard to keep everyone updated

[texski]

just read a story about jeffs new trial on my internet home page. very glad to see that the mainstream media is picking up the story again. these men are like cockroaches, they run from the light. keeping a spotlight on them is very important.they have been doing these things for years and nobody cared.

[dsmith]

Warren Jeffs will be in court at 8:15 I am in NE FL and the time difference is 2 hrs I have a dr appt this morn and hoping I get back in time

[dsmith]

http://www.star-telegram.com/

Polygamist leader Warren Jeffs faces Arizona charges
By AMANDA LEE MYERSAssociated Press Writer
KINGMAN, Ariz. -- Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs was handed over to Arizona authorities Tuesday to face sex charges stemming from the arranged marriages of two teenage girls to older relatives.

He already has been convicted in Utah in connection with one of those cases, involving a 14-year-old girl.

Deputies from the Mohave County Sheriff's Office took custody of Jeffs from Utah officials, sheriff's spokeswoman Trish Carter said. He was booked into the county jail, where he will be kept separate from other inmates, said sheriff's department Capt. Greg Smith.

"Now it's our turn," Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said. "I hope the message is very simple: the law applies to everybody, whether they're the head of a large religious group, or somebody who's not. It's a crime to abuse children, and there are no exceptions."

[dsmith]

http://www.star-telegram.com/

Jeffs, 52, is charged as an accomplice with four counts of incest and four counts of sexual contact with a minor in an indictment.

Smith said Jeffs was booked on six counts of sexual conduct with a minor, four counts of incest and one count of conspiracy to conduct sexual conduct with a minor but couldn't explain the discrepancy. Prosecutor Matt Smith wasn't in his office on Tuesday afternoon and couldn't immediately be reached for comment.



this is one really sick person and to think that there are others out there just like him

[dsmith]

just reading what I can find and it seems that Warren is going to plead NG boy what a hoot that is The man is GUILTY Why is it when someone does something wrong can they just not admit it and save everyone from having to listen to every excuse in the book JMOO Take them out back and shoot them save money and time again JMOO

[ppkpdp05]

Originally posted by NatalieB


Oh, I agree. Don't read my post upthread to mean that I disagree with you in any way at all. This is worse than prostitution, IMO. At least a prostitute makes a conscience decision of their own accord to enter into it. Though I know some girls feel they have no other option. [/*]

I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU! SORRY IF I IMPLIED THAT. SOME PEOPLE THINK HE DID NOTHING WRONG BUT TO ME THIS IS ABOUT AS WRONG AS YOU CAN GET! THESE GIRLS ARE TEENS AND YOUNGER AND ARE BRAIN WASHED TO THINK THAT HE IS SOME KIND OF GOD IT'S SICK! IT REALLY REMINDS ME OF WACKO A LITTLE AND THE FOLLOWING THAT DAVID CARUSO(SP?) HAD. I JUST FEEL SO SORRY FOR THESE GIRLS. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WASN'T THERE A BIG STORY ON DATELINE OR ONE OF THOSE NEWS SHOES ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THIS AND I SAW THAT ONE WOMAN GOT OUT AND SHE CAN'T EVEN GO BACK TO THE NIEGHBORHOOD OF WHERE SHE USED TO LIVE AND CAN'T TALK TO HER SISTER OR ANYTHING. IT'S SAD REALLY THAT THESE KIND OF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE AND IT SCARES ME FOR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR OUR CHILDREN.

[FoxySly]

Originally posted by Tennessean
IMHO, Jeffs did nothing illegal, and the charges brought against are just a bunch of bull. [/*]

Maybe, just maybe, if you had ever been a Child signed over by your ugg parents to be married off to a ugg man older than your ugg father you would/could might possible comprehend the horrors of conceiving a Child out of the raping of this vile old man and the knowing that he was and would continue to do it to others. But than again maybe not.

IMO it is very sad that there are living, breathing beings that condone this kind of nightmare. IMO they are of a very sick mind.

Sly

[texski]

Originally posted by FoxySly


Maybe, just maybe, if you had ever been a Child signed over by your ugg parents to be married off to a ugg man older than your ugg father you would/could might possible comprehend the horrors of conceiving a Child out of the raping of this vile old man and the knowing that he was and would continue to do it to others. But than again maybe not.

IMO it is very sad that there are living, breathing beings that condone this kind of nightmare. IMO they are of a very sick mind.

Sly [/*]
one woman who got away from the abuse wrote a great book about the life she had to live there. she was married off as a teenager to a man with 4 wives, and he married some more later on. the name of the book was escape, by carolyn jessop, with laura palmer, broadway books, new york. copywrite 2007.
it gave me a real insiight into how the girls are raised and why they think they have to put up with this kind of life.
i have passed my copy around to a lot of friends and sent one to my daughter.

[Carol25]

Originally posted by texski
and in my opinion also, thanks for your post.
i hope the thread keeps those of us informed who are unable to spend much time on internet and daytime tv.
i read that the group that moved to texas is building new houses like mad, have to have somewhere for 100 kids born to old goats. all in the name of religion, satan on earth. [/*]
Are you going to start writing your lawmakers to do something about it? I wrote Orrin Hatch and never got an answer, naturally. He once said, If there's any proof they are doing anything wrong, I'll do something about it." Right!

[Carol25]

Originally posted by Texas-SE
Warren Jeffs maybe on trial in Arizona, but his followers continue to build a new FLDS town in the desert of west Texas just south of San Angleo, Texas, near a small town known as Eldorado, Texas.

Here's an interesting website that chronicles Jeffs followers activities in Texas:
http://texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/2008/02/eldorado-texas-yfz-is-expanding.html

http://web.sccn2.net/flds/02-19-08.htm

http://web.sccn2.net/flds/index.htm

It should be noted that most of Warren Jeffs followers live in Hildale, Utah/Colorado City, Arizona, but a large group has left for Texas.

Read more: http://www.myeldorado.net/YFZ%20Aerial%20Tour/yfztour1.html [/*]
Every Texan should write their Congressmen in the state and Washington telling them will vote them out of office if they don't pass a law to get them out! Wouldn't be something if everyone did just that!

That's what Obama is talking about. Everyone getting involved and being heard! You don't have to be a fan of Obama to believe in that. We should all start speaking up! :patriot:

[dsmith]

thanks for the update kinda figured he would plead NG but why did his attorney do it for him seems wj had plenty of voice before he was arrested

[wandering]

Originally posted by NatalieB


Aha, but therein lies the crux of the defense's CIC. The marriages are not legally performed, thus, they don't believe the FLD church has violated man's law.

Personally, I hope Jeffs never has the luxury of walking down any street a free man again.

I hope CTV (yeah I know the name has changed) airs the trial, or at least the feed so we can view it online. [/*]That makes him a **** who forced rape on an underage girl, and it makes the alleged "husband" a pedophile, all of which are against the law.

[beckybird]

Does anyone know if Arizona allows cameras in the courtroom??

When does the trial formally start?

I assume some one will post live TV links if the trial will be covered!!


I know CNN.com is available for the ones TTV covers, but I prefer to use other links in protest--too many times Ttv breaks to commercial and you miss too much!! I don't want CNN.com getting ad $$'s based on my being there

I still haven't figured out WHAT happened Wednesday--Ttv went almost a whole hour without a commercial while covering Bobby Cutts sentencing!!!!!!

In contrast, when Darren Mack's ex-mother-in-law (Sourya?) was giving her victim-impact statement prior to his sentencing Ttv cut to commercial TWICE!!!!


TYIA

[texski]

Originally posted by Carol25

Are you going to start writing your lawmakers to do something about it? I wrote Orrin Hatch and never got an answer, naturally. He once said, If there's any proof they are doing anything wrong, I'll do something about it." Right! [/*] i live in georgia. my congressman and two senators are all republicans and consider themselves christian conservatives. they went after clinton with zest for his sex life, but i honestly believe they could not care less about young women in texas, utah and/or arizona. they think they should just leave if they dont like the communityor relax and enjoy it. . it is not a friendly state for females, not especiallly for females they would consider upitty, if that is a word. sorry, but they are not worth the price of a stamp.

[Kafkafan]

THANKYOU to all who have posted the links and posts on this case. I have followed it for a while, but have been travelling abroad and just caught up.
It is indeed a harrowing tale and I am appalled at the apparent collusion of some police officers with WJ.
I sincerely hope the outcome will provide a change in the law to prevent the abuse of young women and girls continuing.
How long will the trial last any predictions?
I feel it may well be prolonged...............and complicated.
:shrug:

[dsmith]

http://www.amw.com
Jeffs Declared Guilty, More Legal Battles Ahead
Authorities say that the legal road ahead for polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs is going to be a long one.

this is old news I can not find any new news Is anyone out there in Arizona If so could someone just go over to the jail and tell Warren to just go ahead and plead GUILTY and save the tax payer's money



o/t been in bed dr orders so may be I just been my time looking for stuff

[Kafkafan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dsmith
http://www.amw.com
Jeffs Declared Guilty, More Legal Battles Ahead
Authorities say that the legal road ahead for polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs is going to be a long one.

this is old news I can not find any new news Is anyone out there in Arizona If so could someone just go over to the jail and tell Warren to just go ahead and plead GUILTY and save the tax payer's money



o/t been in bed dr orders so may be I just been my time looking for stuff [/*][/QUOTE
]

Thanks for the news, old or not. I have no doubt this will be long and drawn out. The law in some cases is indeed an ***.
JMO;)

[Celebration]

Originally posted by beckybird
Does anyone know if Arizona allows cameras in the courtroom??

When does the trial formally start?

I assume some one will post live TV links if the trial will be covered!!


I know CNN.com is available for the ones TTV covers, but I prefer to use other links in protest--too many times Ttv breaks to commercial and you miss too much!! I don't want CNN.com getting ad $$'s based on my being there

I still haven't figured out WHAT happened Wednesday--Ttv went almost a whole hour without a commercial while covering Bobby Cutts sentencing!!!!!!

In contrast, when Darren Mack's ex-mother-in-law (Sourya?) was giving her victim-impact statement prior to his sentencing Ttv cut to commercial TWICE!!!!


TYIA [/*]

But you remember that she had an unusually long statement. Many pages.

I do agree, however, that the ads often come at frustrating times. This was true with CourtTV and is true now.

I believe that an agreement may be made as to the time at which the ads will run when it is first ordered by the advertiser.

[dsmith]

all righty then I am going to email what ever paper I can find and see if I can get some info I have not posted to much on this case but I have read all post and links Thanks to all who keep updating

[dsmith]

http://readingeagle.com/

Jeffs had a slight smile when he walked into the courtroom, and talked in hushed tones with his lawyers. He answered "yes" when Mohave County Superior Court Judge Steven Conn asked if he was Warren Jeffs, but otherwise sat quietly with no expression on his face.

His lawyer, Mike Peccaries, entered the plea on his behalf. After the hearing, Piccarreta said "it's difficult times" for Jeffs, but he declined to speak further.

Conn ordered Jeffs held without bail and set a hearing for March 19.


so in a few weeks a hearing will be held can not wait for that still looking for updates Kind of difficult for Jeffs BULL It is difficult for all of those he hurt with HIS SICK STUFF I kind of want to know what he is eating drinking mug pic and who is roomies is or neighbor

[beckybird]

Celebration--I realize that Ttv would have "contracts" for commercial time.

What happened Wednesday WAS unusual!!

They had been doing coverage of Mark Jensen's sentencing all day--with the normal number of commercials!

When the Cutts decision came down Banfield & Ford were talking to the prosecutors in the in the Jensen case. They cut off the interview with them to cover Cutts.

Maybe it sticks in my brain because they had interrupted TTv coverage of the Jensen case to spend a whole day replaying Cutts' testimony....

BUT, as I watched the Cutts sentencing I was waiting for them to interrupt for commercials--they never did!

IF they thought that was so important that they sacrificed ad revenue, WHY wasn't Sourya's testmony THAT important???

[texski]

thanks, just marked march 19 on my calender.
i also would like some prison info, but nothing seems tobe coming out. do you think they have him in solitary? before they claimed he spent most of his time on his knees, until they bled, praying.
i hope he is still praying.

[dsmith]

emailed a couple of newspapers out west hopefully I will get something back

[dsmith]

still waiting for a reply to my msg about what is going on with him maybe in the morn some one will answer back

[texski]

i believe we will not get any more coverage about jeffs until the trial date.
i sent my copy of the book escape out to another neighbor. whenever it is returned to me, i send it out again. at least i am informing a few women what is going on.
i know it would help her more if people would buy the book themselves, but i know they would not. but any knowledge of what has been going on is helpful.

[texski]

i think we should all thank the court tv and the administrators for keeping this message board open to us, even when there was no news for a while.

[dsmith]

Originally posted by texski
i think we should all thank the court tv and the administrators for keeping this message board open to us, even when there was no news for a while. [/*]

I agree with you THANK YOU I am still waiting for a reply to my inquire as to what Jeffs is doing and what is going on with him

[walton]

Originally posted by dsmith
still waiting for a reply to my msg about what is going on with him maybe in the morn some one will answer back [/*]

You might find this interesting: http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2008/03/08/news/opinion/opinion1.txt

Officials want to protect Warrens safety and health.




And they think because not many are talking that no one is watching. Silly people!

[texski]

wow, walton, thought you were gone forever, for your own mental health, i surmised. glad to see you here and with such a great newspaper article that none of us would have even seen.
ps, essiemadge will be back home in april and hoping to see lots of posts about the trial. all finished with cancer treatments and looking good, walked in breast cancer trek, not too far, but was there to fly the flag , we are here, we are survivors.
i wonder if jeffs lost weight is from depression?? i know that it is hard to eat when mentally depressed. hope he is, very depressed, sad and miserable, a little back from all the girls and women he mistreated.

[walton]

Originally posted by texski
wow, walton, thought you were gone forever, for your own mental health, i surmised. glad to see you here and with such a great newspaper article that none of us would have even seen.
ps, essiemadge will be back home in april and hoping to see lots of posts about the trial. all finished with cancer treatments and looking good, walked in breast cancer trek, not too far, but was there to fly the flag , we are here, we are survivors.
i wonder if jeffs lost weight is from depression?? i know that it is hard to eat when mentally depressed. hope he is, very depressed, sad and miserable, a little back from all the girls and women he mistreated. [/*]

I am still here. My mental health is fine. My attitude is fine. Still full of questions and looking for answers. I just got irritated when I was told I asked too many questions. And then frustrated that only one media outlet was allowed to take pictures. There was something wrong about sentencing day.

A little trip back to the good ol' days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpEnsdXwFM

Not sure if you've ever seen Rio Bravo or not, but check it out if you get a chance.

I think that LE is doing a real good job keeping an eye on Warren Jeffs safety. Seems odd though that they won't let someone in the courtroom to take pictures. Maybe the person they are protecting Warren Jeffs from is Warren Jeffs. He appears to have lost weight (probably from fasting), appears to be clean shaven and yet his hair is long. He can shave but can't get a hair cut. Odd isn't it?

They have all this protection to keep Warren Jeffs from the public and media and the lone Gary Engles watching a whole town, county by himself. Hmmmm I think they are messing with us. Things like this make people just speculate about things. Not good.

http://www.mohavecourts.com/ Click on high profile cases. Interesting stuff.

P.S. I am not good with words on a personal level, and I hope this comes out ok...I consider essiemadge a friend and I kept her in my thoughts and prayers. :rose: I believe she is a tough ol' goat and I think we have a lot in common. And I mean this in a nice way.

[beckybird]

VERY disappointed that Judge won't allow TVs in the Courtroom!!


IF they are allowing audio, dpes any one know if we will be able to listen on-line????

WHERE????????

HOPE we don't have to resort to links to newspapers!!!!!


TYIA!!!!

[walton]

Originally posted by beckybird
VERY disappointed that Judge won't allow TVs in the Courtroom!!


IF they are allowing audio, dpes any one know if we will be able to listen on-line????

WHERE????????

HOPE we don't have to resort to links to newspapers!!!!!


TYIA!!!! [/*]

Nothing wrong with newspaper links. Concerning audio links, it might not be very informative as Warren isn't talking and though Wally talks, he doesn't say much.

http://corrections.utah.gov/asp-bin/sexoffendersearch.asp?lname=jeffs&fname=&zip=&x=0&y=0

Check this out.....Seems like something is missing from this report from the Prison. Maybe things like aliases are for other criminals.

Maybe Warren didn't have any of his vehicles listed under his name.

Maybe Warren didn't own those homes that he was collecting rent.

Or maybe the zero income he claims was truly for the Church.

And maybe we will really find out what Warren is up to and what "other" charges he might be facing.

[texski]

oh yes, so nice to see jeffs listed as a registered sex offender.
maybe all those other jeffs are twigs from the same rotten tree??
hoping something willl happen on wed, but someone on here thought he would have the trial delayed .
at least he has to stay in jail while he tries to manipulate the system.

[walton]

Originally posted by Texas-SE
Interesting posts on case, guess eveyone is aware that two charges were dropped against Warren Jeffs because a witness backed out, makes one wonder what kind of pressure is being brought to bear on those who might testify?:eek:

Here's a newspaper article on court actions indicating that trial may not take place until the fall with numerous defense motions:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695262963,00.html

From article: "After a witness in the case indicated that she would not testify against Jeffs, Smith filed a motion to dismiss it."

AND "Conn warned both the prosecution and defense about conduct outside the courtroom, including any statements to the media. The more people talk about this case, the more likely there will be statements and articles used as cause for a change of venue, he added."

IMO Jeffs is guilty.barf [/*]

I think the statement Judge Conn made is out of line. "The more people talk about this case, the more likely there will be statements and articles used as cause for a change of venue."

Words like that sure sounds like " If you tell anyone about this..... something bad will happen."

This really doesn't sound like the Judge that allowed Jeffs jailhouse visit to be aired. This doesn't sound like the Judge that allowed a photographers and cameras into his courtroom. This sounds like a Judge that is getting pressure from someone above.


Enough has gone on behind closed doors.

Well I ain't gonna be quiet anymore. And I hope like hell others speak out! :flamemad:

The worst has already happened.

[texski]

this election has me aggravated enough already so maybe having the trial delayed until fall will be good for all of us to stop and smell the roses.
HAPPY SPRING to you all.
i am going to go outside and enjoy the beautiful world that some god , maybe, or not, has given to us.

[texski]

Originally posted by Carol25

Are you going to start writing your lawmakers to do something about it? I wrote Orrin Hatch and never got an answer, naturally. He once said, If there's any proof they are doing anything wrong, I'll do something about it." Right! [/*]

carol, this is a very old post that i remembered. i am from texas but do not live there now. but, i am very proud of my birth state, they are doing something about it right now. this is wonderful, and was brought about by the local people who lived around the compound being built there. kisses to them all.

[FoxySly]

Originally posted by beckybird
VERY disappointed that Judge won't allow TVs in the Courtroom!!


IF they are allowing audio, dpes any one know if we will be able to listen on-line????

WHERE????????

HOPE we don't have to resort to links to newspapers!!!!!


TYIA!!!! [/*]

I'm not sure if this is still the same court house but when I use to go to court with my husband & his friend (lots of speeding tickets) the court house was a trailer house that was the judge home also.

Sly

[Carol25]

Originally posted by texski


carol, this is a very old post that i remembered. i am from texas but do not live there now. but, i am very proud of my birth state, they are doing something about it right now. this is wonderful, and was brought about by the local people who lived around the compound being built there. kisses to them all. [/*]
Utah is my birth state, too. I hope they are doing something as well.