Feb 23rd - 29th

[gino1234]

when Drew was concerned about Kathleen and went to her house to see if everything was alright why did he call a lock-smith(he has a lock pick kit) Why not call the fire dept or police?

[mollybrown]

BINGO ! ! ! !

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by gino1234
when Drew was concerned about Kathleen and went to her house to see if everything was alright why did he call a lock-smith(he has a lock pick kit) Why not call the fire dept or police? [/*]I guess I was under the impession he got a nieghbor/friend.

[ruger]

Originally posted by unclezeek
I guess I was under the impession he got a nieghbor/friend. [/*]


neighbor/friend is NOT fire dept./police

[unclezeek]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruger



neighbor/friend is NOT fire dept./police [/*][/QUOTEThank you for clearing that up. So he fingered through the yellow pages to get a lock smith over there?

[ruger]

Originally posted by unclezeek
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruger



neighbor/friend is NOT fire dept./police [/*][/QUOTEThank you for clearing that up. So he fingered through the yellow pages to get a lock smith over there? [/*]

That isn't what was being addressed. His fingers and the yellow pages have nothing to do w/ what the poster was pointing out, i.e., why didn't he just call the fire dept/police as ANY normal citizen would and CERTAINLY as a seasoned LE officer who is directly connected to the incident (possible) @ hand.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by ruger


That isn't what was being addressed. His fingers and the yellow pages have nothing to do w/ what the poster was pointing out, i.e., why didn't he just call the fire dept/police as ANY normal citizen would and CERTAINLY as a seasoned LE officer who is directly connected to the incident (possible) @ hand. [/*]Good question. Why did it take you 4 years to ask it?

[ruger]

Originally posted by gino1234
when Drew was concerned about Kathleen and went to her house to see if everything was alright why did he call a lock-smith(he has a lock pick kit) Why not call the fire dept or police? [/*]

:seeya: gino

LE and EMS procedure dictates one does not enter a residence on a "welfare check," - if no one comes to the door, a supervisor is contacted, in this case DP SHOULD have called his LT - then efforts are made to contact family members, neighbors, someone who may have a key - you just do not have a locksmith open the door and enter a residence, especially when it belongs to your ex-wife. This should have been addressed internally by BBPD and DP should have @ the very least been disiplined.

[ruger]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Good question. Why did it take you 4 years to ask it? [/*]

HUH? Whatcha drinking in that coffee this morning?

Why did it take ME 4 years to ask it!!!!????

I'm sorry, just not following ya:shrug:

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by ruger


HUH? Whatcha drinking in that coffee this morning?

Why did it take ME 4 years to ask it!!!!????

I'm sorry, just not following ya:shrug: [/*]Almost 4 years to date since Kathleen was found dead...
NOW people are questioning it.
Where have you been since March 1st 2004? Why does this seem so cut and dry to you now?

[ruger]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Almost 4 years to date since Kathleen was found dead...
NOW people are questioning it.
Where have you been since March 1st 2004? Why does this seem so cut and dry to you now? [/*]

Lawd have mercy! You are just a little pizz ant - ain't ya? :biggrin:

More than likely four years ago, most of us (posters) knew nothing of KS/DP. This is a msg bd - we are discussing a case, and there ain't enough space here to tell you where I've been since March 1st 2004 :)

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by ruger


Lawd have mercy! You are just a little pizz ant - ain't ya? :biggrin:

More than likely four years ago, most of us (posters) knew nothing of KS/DP. This is a msg bd - we are discussing a case, and there ain't enough space here to tell you where I've been since March 1st 2004 :) [/*]Well there ya go then...

I don't need to hear any more of the "oh, how can you belive...."
Or the "it's obviouse that..."

Sorry it took some tabloid show like Nancy Grace to get anyone to pay it attention, but before you tell me that Drew killed Kathleen, give me something that puts him in that house AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH!!!

Or you can just mimic what you hear and we can go back and forth like this all day.

[ruger]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Well there ya go then...

I don't need to hear any more of the "oh, how can you belive...."
Or the "it's obviouse that..."

Sorry it took some tabloid show like Nancy Grace to get anyone to pay it attention, but before you tell me that Drew killed Kathleen, give me something that puts him in that house AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH!!!

Or you can just mimic what you hear and we can go back and forth like this all day. [/*]

Not biting ...........you have a nice day now, ya hear?;)

[Cury-us Coyote]

Local attorney will debate high-profile case on TV today
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080223/NEWS/80223017

[pcaves]

Peterson Says He Didn't Kill Kathleen Savio
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/

The ending of this video was particularly shocking for me, as I've been concerned about the kids as many other posters have.

The commentator apparently had asked DP how Kathleen's children were doing. DP told him they were "Bored With It" and had even turned off the television that evening when the news about their mom was reported... :(

[KINSEY]

Peterson after autopsy report: 'I'm scared'

February 23, 2008
By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
BOLINGBROOK -- The bombshell revelation that his third wife's death was a homicide blew the bravado right out of Drew Peterson -- but not for long.

"I'm scared," Peterson said Friday from the doorway of his house. But soon after he offered to come outside for an interview if a female television news reporter agreed to don a bikini. Last year, TV reporter Amy Jacobson was released from her job with NBC 5 Chicago after she was filmed in a bikini while visiting the Plainfield home of Craig Stebic, whose wife Stacy disappeared.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/809161,4_1_JO23_PETERSON_S1.article

[wandering]

Originally posted by pcaves
Peterson Says He Didn't Kill Kathleen Savio
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/

The ending of this video was particularly shocking for me, as I've been concerned about the kids as many other posters have.

The commentator apparently had asked DP how Kathleen's children were doing. DP told him they were "Bored With It" and had even turned off the television that evening when the news about their mom was reported... :( [/*]:eek: Bored with news about their mom? The mom who made sure everything was taken care of, all the time? Who is he trying to kid? :eek:

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by unclezeek
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruger



neighbor/friend is NOT fire dept./police [/*][/QUOTEThank you for clearing that up. So he fingered through the yellow pages to get a lock smith over there? [/*]
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Just my opinion, but maybe he already knew this locksmith and didn't have to find a number, don't forget, he was trained by a locksmith to pick locks himself. The two most likely knew eachother. Wonder why Drew didn't full out the old lock pick kit and open the door himself, just as he probably did when he entered the house to murder Kathleen..........IMO

[wandering]

Originally posted by lonetraveler

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Just my opinion, but maybe he already knew this locksmith and didn't have to find a number, don't forget, he was trained by a locksmith to pick locks himself. The two most likely knew eachother. Wonder why Drew didn't full out the old lock pick kit and open the door himself, just as he probably did when he entered the house to murder Kathleen..........IMO [/*]And THAT's why he called a locksmith, to lead everyone to believe he couldn't get in without one.

He should have called LE.

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Almost 4 years to date since Kathleen was found dead...
NOW people are questioning it.
Where have you been since March 1st 2004? Why does this seem so cut and dry to you now? [/*]:shrug:
==============================================Duh? Just maybe the rest of the world was not aware of the Peterson's saga until it appeared on national TV. There are murders everyday all over the country. There are literally thousands that don't get attention on TV. This message board gets involved usually when the posters actually know about the situation.......

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Well there ya go then...

I don't need to hear any more of the "oh, how can you belive...."
Or the "it's obviouse that..."

Sorry it took some tabloid show like Nancy Grace to get anyone to pay it attention, but before you tell me that Drew killed Kathleen, give me something that puts him in that house AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH!!!

Or you can just mimic what you hear and we can go back and forth like this all day. [/*]
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It sure would be a lot easier to "put Drew in the house at the time of the murder" if the numero Uno witness wasn't missing, now wouldn't it????????

[wandering]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Well there ya go then...

I don't need to hear any more of the "oh, how can you belive...."
Or the "it's obviouse that..."

Sorry it took some tabloid show like Nancy Grace to get anyone to pay it attention, but before you tell me that Drew killed Kathleen, give me something that puts him in that house AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH!!!

Or you can just mimic what you hear and we can go back and forth like this all day. [/*]Circumstantial evidence points to DP as the most likely suspect; ie; the most to gain. The autopsy proves she was murdered.

Does DP have a verifiable alibi for the time in question? If not, he is in deep doo-doo. We're not talking about sleeping kids. It has already been reported that he leaves them alone sometimes, so "the kids were with me." won't fly. Got anything else?

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by wandering
Circumstantial evidence points to DP as the most likely suspect; ie; the most to gain. The autopsy proves she was murdered.

Does DP have a verifiable alibi for the time in question? If not, he is in deep doo-doo. We're not talking about sleeping kids. It has already been reported that he leaves them alone sometimes, so "the kids were with me." won't fly. Got anything else? [/*]

Did you know Steve P was living with DP at the time of KS's death? The fact that he moved soo close to KS makes anything possible, he could sneak around easily on foot at night. I really wonder what his son Steve is thinking now.

[KINSEY]

If, as his lawyer says, that he was having problems getting ahold of Kathleen for a day & a half (not sure how long) then why didn't he call someone in HER family to ask if they had seen her or if she was at one of their houses?????

I have never seen this mentioned & keep hoping Greta or Nancy would bring it up! That is what I would do, surely before calling in a locksmith!!!!

I have tried to get ahold of someone in my family & not had success & I never thought to call a locksmith, I called around to family & found out what was up!!!

Really doesn't take a rocket scientist to think to do that!!!

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by wandering


Does DP have a verifiable alibi for the time in question? [/*]

That is the million dollar question. IIRC Mark Furman was looking to see if there was a search warrenty done for Stacy's phone records. I believe he never found one but was going to get one to see about those records. I haven't heard any more about it. The suggestion was that DP WAS out of the house one night and that Stacy tried to call him and couldn't get a hold of him. :shrug:

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by mollybrown


That is the million dollar question. IIRC Mark Furman was looking to see if there was a search warrenty done for Stacy's phone records. I believe he never found one but was going to get one to see about those records. I haven't heard any more about it. The suggestion was that DP WAS out of the house one night and that Stacy tried to call him and couldn't get a hold of him. :shrug: [/*]

I believe the report of Stacy trying to get a hold of him the night Kathleen died was from what she told the pastor. As well as her saying that she found him early in the morning in the laundry room, dressed in black, putting things in the washing machine and having a bag of things that might have come from Kathleen's (clothes, etc.).

My memory could be wrong, though.

[wandering]

Originally posted by mollybrown


That is the million dollar question. IIRC Mark Furman was looking to see if there was a search warrenty done for Stacy's phone records. I believe he never found one but was going to get one to see about those records. I haven't heard any more about it. The suggestion was that DP WAS out of the house one night and that Stacy tried to call him and couldn't get a hold of him. :shrug: [/*]So the phone records may be the key...Is it enough?

[wandering]

Originally posted by Anakerie


I believe the report of Stacy trying to get a hold of him the night Kathleen died was from what she told the pastor. As well as her saying that she found him early in the morning in the laundry room, dressed in black, putting things in the washing machine and having a bag of things that might have come from Kathleen's (clothes, etc.).

My memory could be wrong, though. [/*]Oh, that's good! The pastor has credibility. :cool:

[KINSEY]

Originally posted by Anakerie


I believe the report of Stacy trying to get a hold of him the night Kathleen died was from what she told the pastor. As well as her saying that she found him early in the morning in the laundry room, dressed in black, putting things in the washing machine and having a bag of things that might have come from Kathleen's (clothes, etc.).

My memory could be wrong, though. [/*]

Not sure of my memory now either, but thought it was said on Greta that Stacy also told family & friends at the time this happened, that she could not get ahold of him & the story of the black clothing & washing clothes.

[north-eh]

Originally posted by KINSEY


Not sure of my memory now either, but thought it was said on Greta that Stacy also told family & friends at the time this happened, that she could not get ahold of him & the story of the black clothing & washing clothes. [/*]

This might help. Here you go. Found this.

Shocking New Details In the Death Of Drew Peterson"s Third Wife
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317115,00.html

Hope this works

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by north-eh


This might help. Here you go. Found this.

Shocking New Details In the Death Of Drew Peterson"s Third Wife
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317115,00.html

Hope this works [/*]

Thank you.. lol, I guess my memory isn't as bad as I thought it was.
:D

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by wandering
So the phone records may be the key...Is it enough? [/*]

Well I don't know. :shrug:

Seeing the person who owned that phone is now missing..........

[gino1234]

stacy's family had a feeling that something was not right about Kathleen's death.

does anyone know Stacy's maiden name?

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by north-eh


This might help. Here you go. Found this.

Shocking New Details In the Death Of Drew Peterson"s Third Wife
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317115,00.html

Hope this works [/*]

Glad I really did remember that Greta show LOL

Sometimes I wonder if I dream things.

[north-eh]

Originally posted by gino1234
stacy's family had a feeling that something was not right about Kathleen's death.

does anyone know Stacy's maiden name? [/*]


I maybe wrong, but I believe her maiden name was believed to be "Cales".
jmo

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by wandering
Circumstantial evidence points to DP as the most likely suspect; ie; the most to gain. The autopsy proves she was murdered.

Does DP have a verifiable alibi for the time in question? If not, he is in deep doo-doo. We're not talking about sleeping kids. It has already been reported that he leaves them alone sometimes, so "the kids were with me." won't fly. Got anything else? [/*]All Drew has to say is "I wasn't there" and the burden is on someone else to prove otherwise.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[wandering]

Originally posted by unclezeek
All Drew has to say is "I wasn't there" and the burden is on someone else to prove otherwise.

Correct me if I am wrong. [/*]They exhumed Savio's body, and it's with the GJ now. Do you really think they are just shooting in the dark?

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by wandering
They exhumed Savio's body, and it's with the GJ now. Do you really think they are just shooting in the dark? [/*]Put Drew at the scene at the time of Kathleens death.

[Nova]

Haven't been here for awhile, not that Stacy and Kathleen aren't always on my mind. Caught up in Jensen trial. With that said ... I understand what UZ is saying and it is truly a dilemna.
The only person who can "blow up DP's alibi" concerning Kathleen's death is Stacy ... and she's missing, how convenient.
I think justice will be served for Kathleen and Stacy, it just may take some time, BUT it will happen. The Savios have JQK on their side, the GJ moving forward and I do believe Stacy will be found.
DP's days are numbered and I think he knows it.

:rose: For Kathleen, Stacy and the children

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Put Drew at the scene at the time of Kathleens death. [/*]

Uncle, for all we know that is exactly what the GJ is trying to do. I wish we knew just half of what the GJ knows right now. I'm sure they have a ton more information than what we've seen.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Uncle, for all we know that is exactly what the GJ is trying to do. I wish we knew just half of what the GJ knows right now. I'm sure they have a ton more information than what we've seen. [/*]It may be awhile till we hear that, so why don't you tell me what you've got?

What puts Drew in that house at the time of Kathleens death???

Answer that and you'll see him in handcuffs!:) :)

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by unclezeek
It may be awhile till we hear that, so why don't you tell me what you've got?

What puts Drew in that house at the time of Kathleens death???

Answer that and you'll see him in handcuffs!:) :) [/*]

Uncle, I would if I could. I don't have any more information that you have. Probably less even, since you were there in Bolingbrook back in those days and I wasn't.

I wish I had a crystal ball or something that would give us the answers we are all craving.
:(

[steffaroob4]

Ok, let's see if I did this right.

[mollybrown]

Thanks stef :beer:

[steffaroob4]

I don't like to complain, but this is crazy hoping all around. I never saw a reason to seperate into 2 different forums. Traffic was so slow to begin with, I don't see this helping. Both KS and SP intersect so much it truly is one subject in my opinion.:confused:

[mollybrown]

I agree but just in case if Kathleens "issues" progress faster then Stacy's, given the law suit and MOD I guess we will see how it goes.

[steffaroob4]

QUOTE]Originally posted by lonetraveler


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I'm also intrigued by the abdominal bruises. Their size resembles what you would expect from a policeman's baton. Hummmmmmmm! Or a fist with the knuckles hitting the stomach area....... [/*][/QUOTE]

Do you remember the old flexible policeman batons? That is what I thought as soon as I read it.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by mollybrown
I agree but just in case if Kathleens "issues" progress faster then Stacy's, given the law suit and MOD I guess we will see how it goes. [/*]

I just hate the feeling that mid next week we will be staring at 2 dead forums. I hope we get some good action soon. Then we won't need to worry.

I truly believe that if he gets charged with murder, it will be two cases wrapped together.

[mollybrown]

I agree Stef

I sure can't hook up with ANOTHER case like that with Stacy missing and Kathleens MOD COD announced.

Maybe need to take a break ;)

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by mollybrown
I agree Stef

I sure can't hook up with ANOTHER case like that with Stacy missing and Kathleens MOD COD announced.

Maybe need to take a break ;) [/*]

I can only do one case at a time, I am a Spector watcher first, so once that starts back up, I am going to be a happy camper.

[mollybrown]

I watched the tail end of SP and he is just to freaky to have to see PS eveyday. PLUS I think that that case is such a no brainer that I couldn't get invested in that hung jury issue with that trial. I'm not sure where I'm going to go..... maybe take a walk LOL LIKE outdoors, fresh air, sun shine LOL

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I can only do one case at a time, I am a Spector watcher first, so once that starts back up, I am going to be a happy camper. [/*]

Have you seen the latest picture of him and his child bride? :chicken:

[BobbysGirl]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I just hate the feeling that mid next week we will be staring at 2 dead forums. I hope we get some good action soon. Then we won't need to worry.

I truly believe that if he gets charged with murder, it will be two cases wrapped together. [/*]

TY for starting new thread.

I hope we get action sooner than later. IMO I doubt these 2 cases will be brought together. Unless the good abiding citizens and the BBPD LE force have alot of circumstantial evidence to connect the 2 cases.

I know little about law. But, I do know one takes priority over another if the evidence is strong enough. The latter may come later. Would not be the first case IMO.

IF DP thinks he can hoodwink all of LE and come across as a devoted father, husband, and citzen then he damn well will walk. IMO Not so. He is in deep and deeper than deep.
He may think he is one honest cop in his days but I truly believe his days are numbered. He will get his.

And IMO, I am most sure he has many out there that 'owe' him favors. And his obvious behaviorhism and who all else (family included) are ready to fess up soon.

LET HIM Intimidate others and the news media and the LE will leave much to be desired. His cohorts, imo, will rat on him. The more he talks and yank the strings the more he will h... himself. He is not indestructible. Nor infallible. Just Another, selfish, self centered, ego-centric jerk>>ALL IN MY OPINION. What goes around comes around.

JMO

BG

[north-eh]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I can only do one case at a time, I am a Spector watcher first, so once that starts back up, I am going to be a happy camper. [/*]


Yes, I too watched the PS trial and thought that was the biggest miscarriage of justice I had ever seen. I know this is O/T but I just wanted to add that I shall be waiting for it to begin and hope PS stays with his "own" hair this time. Whatever that may be.

jmo

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Have you seen the latest picture of him and his child bride? :chicken: [/*]
NOOOO

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by north-eh



Yes, I too watched the PS trial and thought that was the biggest miscarriage of justice I had ever seen. I know this is O/T but I just wanted to add that I shall be waiting for it to begin and hope PS stays with his "own" hair this time. Whatever that may be.

jmo [/*]

Another OT post here.... But the reference to the hair was just too much for me.. lol

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/22/spector-kills-on-the-red-carpet/


I just hope and pray that when the time comes for GJ to hand down indictments for Drew and this all goes to court, the jury will be a smart one like the Jenson jurors...

[north-eh]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Have you seen the latest picture of him and his child bride? :chicken: [/*]

Yes, and to me she looks like Lana! Couldn't believe it.

jmo

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by north-eh


Yes, and to me she looks like Lana! Couldn't believe it.

jmo [/*]

You're not alone there. In fact, there is a growing crowd that saw the same thing from what I've seen on the net today.

[north-eh]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Another OT post here.... But the reference to the hair was just too much for me.. lol

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/22/spector-kills-on-the-red-carpet/


I just hope and pray that when the time comes for GJ to hand down indictments for Drew and this all goes to court, the jury will be a smart one like the Jenson jurors... [/*]

I posted this before, but again I say what good timing the Jensen verdict was in connection with the Savio case. Being able to use Julie's "letter from the grave" should give way for Kathleen's letter to LE being used when this comes to trial.

jmo

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Anakerie


Another OT post here.... But the reference to the hair was just too much for me.. lol

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/22/spector-kills-on-the-red-carpet/


I just hope and pray that when the time comes for GJ to hand down indictments for Drew and this all goes to court, the jury will be a smart one like the Jenson jurors... [/*]

Me too, thanks for the laugh!

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by mollybrown
I agree Stef

I sure can't hook up with ANOTHER case like that with Stacy missing and Kathleens MOD COD announced.

Maybe need to take a break ;) [/*]

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I've been saying that I need to take a break ever since I found this message board. I now realize that I have become an addict.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by lonetraveler


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I've been saying that I need to take a break ever since I found this message board. I now realize that I have become an addict. [/*]

I wasn't addicted to Spector as much as was addicted to Alan Jackson, lol. Then when that ended I swore I would stay away. But, then I saw DP and he drove me right back here, so maybe I can sue him. Guess I better get in line, tho. I miss the laughing santa:(

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I wasn't addicted to Spector as much as was addicted to Alan Jackson, lol. Then when that ended I swore I would stay away. But, then I saw DP and he drove me right back here, so maybe I can sue him. Guess I better get in line, tho. I miss the laughing santa:( [/*]

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Now, was that an addition to Alan Jackson or an obsession????
I know off topic, I couldn't resist....

[interested]

Originally posted by unclezeek
All Drew has to say is "I wasn't there" and the burden is on someone else to prove otherwise.

Correct me if I am wrong. [/*]

UZ, you're always very realistic about this entire situation.

I'll ask you to allow me some idealism. I believe, if they can convict a fertilizer salesman in the death of his wife and unborn child based solely on circumstantial evidence, they can convict a crooked cop in the murder of two of his wives based on a mountain of circumstantial evidence, his lack of morals and his personal history lacking any other viable suspects.

Kathleen's house was not robbed.
There was no forced entry.
Drew was the first on scene.
There was one person who benefited royally by Kathleen's' death.
One person demonstrated their willingness to hurt her prior to her death.
One person who was willing to utilize his position as a notary to get exactly what he wanted from Kathleen's estate despite the fact it was an abuse of his appointment.

When all else fails, follow the money.

There is nothing but Drew's say so that Stacy was seeing anyone at all.
Anyone who believes she had time to keep a lover has never raised two small children.
By all accounts she would not leave her children.
Even if she would leave the children temporarily because they were safe but she was not, she would have contacted someone by now.
There has been no attempt to access family financial accounts in all this time.
I believe the ministers story will come in, you can't kill the witness to eliminate their testimony.

I believe, because I must, they will eventually bring the person responsible for the death of Kathleen and the disappearance of Stacy to justice.

[Mamie]

Originally posted by unclezeek
All Drew has to say is "I wasn't there" and the burden is on someone else to prove otherwise.

Correct me if I am wrong. [/*]


Scott Peterson said the same thing and look where he is.

[Birdy]

Originally posted by gino1234
when Drew was concerned about Kathleen and went to her house to see if everything was alright why did he call a lock-smith(he has a lock pick kit) Why not call the fire dept or police? [/*]Thats obvious, but where were his kids? I may be mistaken but I haven't heard anyone mention them being there at that time. Sooooooo how could he be returning the kids home if they weren't there? Anyone know if the kids were there at that time?:shrug:

[Birdy]

What about the red or orange barrel or drum? Or was it blue. Don't hear about that anymore, why? imo that was an important clue. he could have easily have put Stacy;s body in it and cart it off. I wonder if LE checked out storage bins to see if he had rented one. He did say "they won't find stacy's body.......then....because she's not dead. He could hide her body in a storage bin for years and years, so it seems logical to me that he would think of doing just that and LE wouldn't think of looking into storage.....Did LE search for one??????moo:shrug:

[lili]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Put Drew at the scene at the time of Kathleens death. [/*]

Put him somewhere else. Or put someone else there, with free access to the house and a reason to kill, and a reason to make it look like an "accident".

People who break into people's homes and kill do not take the trouble to make it look like an accident. They just kill and run.

JMO

[BobbysGirl]

Originally posted by Birdy
What about the red or orange barrel or drum? Or was it blue. Don't hear about that anymore, why? imo that was an important clue. he could have easily have put Stacy;s body in it and cart it off. I wonder if LE checked out storage bins to see if he had rented one. He did say "they won't find stacy's body.......then....because she's not dead. He could hide her body in a storage bin for years and years, so it seems logical to me that he would think of doing just that and LE wouldn't think of looking into storage.....Did LE search for one??????moo:shrug: [/*]

Are you talking about renting a storage unit? If so, would not work unless he found some one to rent it for him. I used to work for a storage unit, and we had hard copies as well as files on puter.

Remember that case a few yrs back about the woman who struck a homeless man and left him her windshield for few days in her garage? I recognized the name. I looked through all the files and she had a storage unit.

If DP had one, he surely would not put it in his name.
IMO Easy access to find. We had all kinds of files of who is who and thieves. Break ins and all.

And if unit was not paid up to date. We went in with pad lock cutters and opened them.

Then the stuff in the unit was put up for auction.

BG

[AmyO]

Originally posted by interested


UZ, you're always very realistic about this entire situation.

I'll ask you to allow me some idealism. I believe, if they can convict a fertilizer salesman in the death of his wife and unborn child based solely on circumstantial evidence, they can convict a crooked cop in the murder of two of his wives based on a mountain of circumstantial evidence, his lack of morals and his personal history lacking any other viable suspects.

Kathleen's house was not robbed.
There was no forced entry.
Drew was the first on scene.
There was one person who benefited royally by Kathleen's' death.
One person demonstrated their willingness to hurt her prior to her death.
One person who was willing to utilize his position as a notary to get exactly what he wanted from Kathleen's estate despite the fact it was an abuse of his appointment.

When all else fails, follow the money.

There is nothing but Drew's say so that Stacy was seeing anyone at all.
Anyone who believes she had time to keep a lover has never raised two small children.
By all accounts she would not leave her children.
Even if she would leave the children temporarily because they were safe but she was not, she would have contacted someone by now.
There has been no attempt to access family financial accounts in all this time.
I believe the ministers story will come in, you can't kill the witness to eliminate their testimony.

I believe, because I must, they will eventually bring the person responsible for the death of Kathleen and the disappearance of Stacy to justice. [/*]
ITA! Great post.

[donna]

Originally posted by interested


UZ, you're always very realistic about this entire situation.
. [/*]

Interested, great post. I read this board quite often and have kept up with this case since the beginning.
You said it all for me - right on point!
I was really glad to see Kathleens death ruled a homocide!


:beer:

[lili]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by interested


UZ, you're always very realistic about this entire situation.
QUOTE]

The points you make are spot-on.

Stacy hasn't "disappeared"... she was murdered, IMO. Just Like Kathleen didn't commit "suicide", as it has now been proven.

And about testimony... no, one can't kill everyone who can point a finger at them, much as he could be tempted. His goose is cooked and his story is unravelling by the day, IMO.

JMO

[RayStar]

Drew you should fess up. Look at Mark Jensen. Surely LE will keep the heat on you. Tell us where Stacy is.

[KittyMom]

I think some smart, pretty, young, strong-stomached female reporter should take DP out for a night on the town...get him drunk and then start asking questions...all on hidden camera. :D

[no1what]

Originally posted by ruger


Not biting ...........you have a nice day now, ya hear?;) [/*]

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Actually it didn't take the citizens of Bolingbrook four years to notice. We noticed and we discussed.

However it did take 4 years for the LE to listen and investigate.

[no1what]

Originally posted by interested


UZ, you're always very realistic about this entire situation.
[/*]

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You forgot to mention that Drew doesn't have an alibi.
(lets hope that the cell phone lead pans out. i have a feeling since Joel * and Drew haven't shown any evidence to the contrary that it's a good lead)

[Devotion]

Originally posted by ruger

:seeya: gino

LE and EMS procedure dictates one does not enter a residence on a "welfare check," - if no one comes to the door, a supervisor is contacted, in this case DP SHOULD have called his LT -
then efforts are made to contact family members, neighbors, someone who may have a key -

you just do NOT have a locksmith open the door and enter a residence,
especially when it belongs to your EX-wife.

This should have been addressed internally by BBPD and DP should have @ the very least been disiplined. [/*]

Imo...Very good points...Why wasn't it questioned by BBPD at the time?
X-WIFE could have had a "friend" visiting and did not want to be disturbed..
How did DP know she wasn't entertaining/ out on a date, or gone for the weekend ?

[Devotion]

Originally posted by Birdy
Thats obvious, but where were his kids?

I may be mistaken but I haven't heard anyone mention them being there at that time.

Sooooooo HOW could he be returning the kids home if they weren't there?

Anyone know if the kids were there at that time?:shrug: [/*]

Jmo...Excellent questions...Where were the children?
IF the children were NOT with him, he wasn't returning them?
Why didn't he have them with him?
IF he was working,
WHY didn't the people who was babysitting the children, return them???

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Devotion


Jmo...Excellent questions...Where were the children?
IF the children were NOT with him, he wasn't returning them?
Why didn't he have them with him?
IF he was working,
WHY didn't the people who was babysitting the children, return them??? [/*]

I believe he was on duty, didn't Steve C say that he stopped him while in his patrol car?

Coldwater posted a poll to vote about the forums being split or combined.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=325256

[steffaroob4]

There is another hearing Wednesday on the return of DP's items taking during the search warrents. Do you think they will be allowed to hang onto his items longer with the new ruling of homicide in the KS death?

[newbiee]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I believe he was on duty, didn't Steve C say that he stopped him while in his patrol car?

Coldwater posted a poll to vote about the forums being split or combined.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=325256 [/*]

I think they should be combined. I sometimes have trouble now trying to find something, no need for splitting up this, since there hasn't been that much news lately.
Just my opinion though.

[newbiee]

Originally posted by newbiee


I think they should be combined. I sometimes have trouble now trying to find something, no need for splitting up this, since there hasn't been that much news lately.
Just my opinion though. [/*]

Wouldn't KS death being turned over to homicide make it easier to convict DP of SP's murder, even without a body?

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by newbiee


Wouldn't KS death being turned over to homicide make it easier to convict DP of SP's murder, even without a body? [/*]

I sure am hoping they are able to combine both cases and get enough evidence to convict. I just hope that the state police are doing a better job this time.

[newbiee]

did you see the article that DP said the two older kids are tired of seeing all this and are bored with it. That they cut off the t.v. now when something comes on?

What child is not going to watch t.v. when they see their mother's picture on it?

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by newbiee
did you see the article that DP said the two older kids are tired of seeing all this and are bored with it. That they cut off the t.v. now when something comes on?

What child is not going to watch t.v. when they see their mother's picture on it? [/*]

I just can't even believe he says stuff like that, doesn't he know how stupid that sounds. It fries my bottom:flamemad:

[grammacares]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I sure am hoping they are able to combine both cases and get enough evidence to convict. I just hope that the state police are doing a better job this time. [/*]

I believe they will have enough evidence to convict him on both cases separately, but, the main priority is to get a killer off the streets. I just want to see justice for Stacy and Kathleen, however it works out. I can only imagine how many people are living in fear of this man.
:rose: For Stacy, Kathleen and all of DP's victims.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Sugarnspice


Hey Steffaroob, I tried to vote on the poll Coldwater has put up but for some reason it wouldn't let me. I really would prefer that the two boards are combined since the cases are interrelated. JMO. Thanks. [/*]

Well, that's strange. I wonder why.
I sure hope that some news breaks soon, this forum has been so slow. I sure hope that LE has a truckfull of stuff on DP.

[ruger]

Originally posted by no1what


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Actually it didn't take the citizens of Bolingbrook four years to notice. We noticed and we discussed.

However it did take 4 years for the LE to listen and investigate. [/*]

And there you go .........UZ, you listenin'?

Thanks no1 ;)

[ruger]

Originally posted by Devotion


Imo...Very good points...Why wasn't it questioned by BBPD at the time?
X-WIFE could have had a "friend" visiting and did not want to be disturbed..
How did DP know she wasn't entertaining/ out on a date, or gone for the weekend ? [/*]

Something just doesn't add-up. I've been in LE for twenty years and I can assure you, if I had over-stepped those boundaries and ignored POLICY & PROCEDURE, I would have faced some SEVERE discipline action! IMO, he "knows stuff" that will be detrimental to some in the department. I can't think of any other answer .......... can anyone else?

[ruger]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


I believe he was on duty, didn't Steve C say that he stopped him while in his patrol car?<snip>[/*]

I don't know about BBPD, but "on duty" or off, if we are in our unit & something occurs, you handle it - you are then on duty, i.e., you see a residence being burglarized, business being robbed, subject assaulting a person ..........DP just "threw the book out," when he chose to handle a situation involving his former wife - with whom he had a history of "domestic unrest," (if you will), without following proper procedure. jmo

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by newbiee
did you see the article that DP said the two older kids are tired of seeing all this and are bored with it. That they cut off the t.v. now when something comes on?

What child is not going to watch t.v. when they see their mother's picture on it? [/*]

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IMO: My suspicions are that they want to turn the tv off because of what they have to endure when Drew hears about new items on tv and rants and raves about it. They probably race to the tv and turn it off before Drew can react,.

[lonetraveler]

Originally posted by ruger


Something just doesn't add-up. I've been in LE for twenty years and I can assure you, if I had over-stepped those boundaries and ignored POLICY & PROCEDURE, I would have faced some SEVERE discipline action! IMO, he "knows stuff" that will be detrimental to some in the department. I can't think of any other answer .......... can anyone else? [/*]
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ITA with you. It is the only way I can see that procedures were not followed and it seems everyone just turned their backs on the situation, me thinks that they (the LE) were covering their own *$$es and were afraid to speak up or Drew would have spilled the beans on a few of them. I think that the Bollingbrook Police Dept. needs to be investigated for the corruption that most likely exists. Too much going on, too obvious.

[steffaroob4]

I can't believe JB was BEGGING for Baden's autopsy results on Greta, OMG. Pitiful!!!

[ruger]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316707,00.html

IMO, Herbert Hardy has some serious 'splainin' to do.

I'm sure you all watched/read this back in Dec., as I did ........was just re-reading articles and came across it - and again, my mind was blown! Did he really just L I E relative to the search warrants for phone records!!!!



(Fuhrman)...but we went back and looked at the transcript from the coroner's jury, the one from May 1. And just so that the viewers know, is that the Illinois State Police, Herbert Hardy (ph), was testifying, and he says, in part, "The only thing we're waiting for now is some phone records, to find out if certain phone calls were made when they said they were made."

(Greta)...There's another part where even a coroner's juror member said to the witness, to the Illinois State Police witness, "Are they verifying the phone records, correct, that the calls were made?" The witness, "Yes, those take quite a while to get. So yes, we've got phone records coming from her phone, his phone, Steve's phone and the rest of it. So yes, we still have to verify that."

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by ruger
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316707,00.html

IMO, Herbert Hardy has some serious 'splainin' to do.

I'm sure you all watched/read this back in Dec., as I did ........was just re-reading articles and came across it - and again, my mind was blown! Did he really just L I E relative to the search warrants for phone records!!!!



(Fuhrman)...but we went back and looked at the transcript from the coroner's jury, the one from May 1. And just so that the viewers know, is that the Illinois State Police, Herbert Hardy (ph), was testifying, and he says, in part, "The only thing we're waiting for now is some phone records, to find out if certain phone calls were made when they said they were made."

(Greta)...There's another part where even a coroner's juror member said to the witness, to the Illinois State Police witness, "Are they verifying the phone records, correct, that the calls were made?" The witness, "Yes, those take quite a while to get. So yes, we've got phone records coming from her phone, his phone, Steve's phone and the rest of it. So yes, we still have to verify that." [/*]

This is why I see JQK not just stopping with a wrongful death suit at DP, I see him going deeper. The whole first investigation stinks.

[ruger]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


This is why I see JQK not just stopping with a wrongful death suit at DP, I see him going deeper. The whole first investigation stinks. [/*]

I'm not that well versed in civil law - don't know what kind of civil action would be applicable, however, there definitely MUST be a criminal investigation relative to the coroner's hearing and the perjury that was apparently running rampant .........jmo, of course!

[tagalong]

It is very apparent that his investigation (Peterson case) is and has been contaminated from the conception. The phyiscal evidence is a big fat zero, due to the Bollingbrook PD and the police officer code of taking care of their own. This will be traced by starting at the local PD level going all the way up through the Will County IL court system. I worked with Peterson through another department
years ago and he was always known to use his authority as well as his badge to find romance and had a huge sexual appetite. The only possiblity of a conviction will be with evidence from his ex wifes death. Mark my words you will never recover a body in the new case. Save this prediction
and give me credit for my prediction. Stacey Peterson has been cremated and there will be no physical evidence. Peterson has the contacts and means to pull off a illegal cremation, check his
freinds list and you may, I say may find what I talking about.
(gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/05/update-on-stacy-peterson-)



I agree with the idea that Stacy may have been cremated. Tina was cremated, IIRC, and DP said Stacy is where she wants to be. Also does anyone remember the incident that DP was in Sharon's backyard with an urn yelling at Sharon about (?). Cassandra now has the urn with Tina’s ashes, IIRC. Wouldn’t it be something if Stacy’s ashes are in the same urn with Tina? Wonder if the blue “tote”, “barrel” was cremated also. Just throwing this out there for ideas and opinions.

[Birdy]

Originally posted by BobbysGirl


Are you talking about renting a storage unit? If so, would not work unless he found some one to rent it for him. I used to work for a storage unit, and we had hard copies as well as files on puter.

Remember that case a few yrs back about the woman who struck a homeless man and left him her windshield for few days in her garage? I recognized the name. I looked through all the files and she had a storage unit.

If DP had one, he surely would not put it in his name.
IMO Easy access to find. We had all kinds of files of who is who and thieves. Break ins and all.

And if unit was not paid up to date. We went in with pad lock cutters and opened them.

Then the stuff in the unit was put up for auction.

BG [/*]
1) Yes I mean renting a storage unit
2) ITA he would have it in someone elses name, but that party would not necessarily be aware of him doing that. I had in 1994 rented a unit in a friends name (with her knowledge) because she was enroute from N.J. to Fl. and had no trouble doing it. As long as they were paid, thats all the storage wanted. The money for the rental. I did have to give some detail of her existance and sign for it. I signed her name and it was accepted.
3) everything you say is true but also a storage unit could have been rented after the death of of his 3rd wife. Lets not forget that he was setting up house with Stacy at the time of her death and imo Stacy would have wanted to have her own furniture so he could have rented a storage bin back then to store furniture. It is not unlikely as it seems. I rented a storage unit back in 1997 to store some furniture from my large house that I sold and moved into a smaller house and stored what wouldn't fit. I still have that unit and although some of the original furniture are no longer there, other "stuff" is filling it up even today..........
:shrug: some day I'll empty it altogether, but not yet now....:eek:
Garage sale anyone?? :punch: <-----4 me not U.....

[Birdy]

Originally posted by Devotion


Jmo...Excellent questions...Where were the children?
IF the children were NOT with him, he wasn't returning them?
Why didn't he have them with him?
IF he was working,
WHY didn't the people who was babysitting the children, return them??? [/*] Absolutely!!! Where were they and why was his alibi accepted by LE? These are questions that I'd really like to be answered. Maybe now that this case is getting so hot, someone will break the BCOS or already did?? Hmmmmm?:shrug:

[tagalong]

Originally posted by Birdy
Absolutely!!! Where were they and why was his alibi accepted by LE? These are questions that I'd really like to be answered. Maybe now that this case is getting so hot, someone will break the BCOS or already did?? Hmmmmm?:shrug: [/*]

Sue Doman: She told me she felt she was not going to make it. He was going to kill her and it was going to look like an accident.

By March 1, 2004, Kathy and Drew were divorced, although the financial settlement was pending. About 9 p.m. that night, Steve Carcerano was returning home from work.

Steve Carcerano: And Drew happened to come down the street. And pulled up next to me in his squad car. And he thinks something might be wrong because he's gone trying to drop off the kids for the past day and a half. And that's not like Kathy not to be there when the kids were being dropped off.

Drew had a locksmith open the door to the house -- he says nobody had a key. He asked Steve and another neighbor, Mary, to go upstairs and look for Kathy while he waited below.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22316689/page/5/


Stacy and DP were living together at that time and it's my understanding that Stacy kept the kids when DP was not home and that Stacy was DP's alibi the night Kathleen died.

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by Sugarnspice


I can't believe he tried for a day and a half to drop the kids off without calling the cops just to make a report since she always called the cops on him. Also why didn't he just call one of her relatives. That story is so full of holes it's not funny. jmo [/*]

DP and his colender of stories.....

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by Sugarnspice


I can't believe he tried for a day and a half to drop the kids off without calling the cops just to make a report since she always called the cops on him. Also why didn't he just call one of her relatives. That story is so full of holes it's not funny. jmo [/*]How do you know he didn't try to call anyone else?
Niether one of the families is giving out info that might in the slightes bit show Drew as innocent, and don't you think after all this time there might be some?

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by tagalong


Sue Doman: She told me she felt she was not going to make it. He was going to kill her and it was going to look like an accident.

By March 1, 2004, Kathy and Drew were divorced, although the financial settlement was pending. About 9 p.m. that night, Steve Carcerano was returning home from work.

Steve Carcerano: And Drew happened to come down the street. And pulled up next to me in his squad car. And he thinks something might be wrong because he's gone trying to drop off the kids for the past day and a half. And that's not like Kathy not to be there when the kids were being dropped off.

Drew had a locksmith open the door to the house -- he says nobody had a key. He asked Steve and another neighbor, Mary, to go upstairs and look for Kathy while he waited below.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22316689/page/5/


Stacy and DP were living together at that time and it's my understanding that Stacy kept the kids when DP was not home and that Stacy was DP's alibi the night Kathleen died. [/*]Stacy and Drew had been married for 6 months so yes, it is a safe assumption that Stacy and Drew were living together.

[tagalong]

Where and who is the "MARY" in this murder (IMO)? And where is DP's other son (Eric?). I read somewhere that the other son questioned Kathleen's death being an accident. If Eric or Mary knows something, I sure hope they come forward with it - even after all these years.

[tagalong]

Originally posted by Sugarnspice


Who I would really love to hear more from is the second wife Vicky. She has been unusually quiet about the whole thing. jmo [/*]

Vicki Connolly was DP’s second wife…..
But in the first interview granted by one of his ex-wives since Stacy's disappearance, Connolly, 48, said Thursday that during their marriage an increasingly controlling Peterson told her he could kill her and make it look like an accident. While she couldn't believe he would ever do it, something prompted her to confide in Bolingbrook police officers who she considered friends. "So they would know he said these things to me," she said.
She said Peterson would hit her but not hard enough to go to the hospital, and not often enough for her to expect it. It made it worse, she said, that she never knew it was coming. "It was mind games; it was head games," she said.

Peterson, who did not return phone calls Thursday, has denied being abusive to Savio or Stacy Peterson.

Police have described Peterson, 53, as a suspect in 23-year-old Stacy's disappearance and are reinvestigating Savio's death. Will County State's Atty. James Glasgow said her death appeared to have been staged as an accident. Savio's body was exhumed Tuesday.

Peterson, who is not charged with any crimes, has denied involvement in both cases.

"He has the experience, the knowledge, the means, and the mind to do that," she said, her voice trailing off. "That's all I've thought about. ... I'm still working through it. I'll be honest."

This much Connolly knows: She was married to Peterson for 10 years, beginning in 1982. They raised each other's children from previous marriages. They operated a bar together. She stuck by him through his infidelities and during legal problems in the 1980s -- until she finally "caught him cheating on me with someone with my own eyeballs."

"The thing with Drew Peterson, and I'm sure if [Savio and Stacy Peterson] were here to comment they would say the same thing, when it was good, it was wonderful, it was great," Connolly said. "But when it was bad, it was really bad."

Vicki Connolly was DP’s second wife…..

oops, forgot to post this: http://www.chicagotribune.com/

[Cury-us Coyote]

Fundraiser to raise money for Peterson search
(includes video)
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5983460

[Birdy]

Originally posted by tagalong


Sue Doman: She told me she felt she was not going to make it. He was going to kill her and it was going to look like an accident.

By March 1, 2004, Kathy and Drew were divorced, although the financial settlement was pending. About 9 p.m. that night, Steve Carcerano was returning home from work.

Steve Carcerano: And Drew happened to come down the street. And pulled up next to me in his squad car. And he thinks something might be wrong because he's gone trying to drop off the kids for the past day and a half. And that's not like Kathy not to be there when the kids were being dropped off.

Drew had a locksmith open the door to the house -- he says nobody had a key. He asked Steve and another neighbor, Mary, to go upstairs and look for Kathy while he waited below.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22316689/page/5/


Stacy and DP were living together at that time and it's my understanding that Stacy kept the kids when DP was not home and that Stacy was DP's alibi the night Kathleen died. [/*]
Has it crossed your mind that perhaps DP knew that Kathleen was already dead for the prior days of alledgly trying to return the kids home?......
That if he was really concerned that he could have broken a window and got in to check?
That calling the locksmith gave him another witness to say that he couldn't get into the house?
Stacy? An alibi for what? That she was minding the kids? What did that prove?, nothing.........
That Mary and a neighbor were the ones told to go upstairs to discover the body while he conveniently waited downstairs for what?
1) A frantic scream?
2) An alibi that he wasn't near the body that night?
3) A perfect setup for a defence,
Who called 911 that time? Do you know?
Well for me, I'm not buying any of his lame excuses. I don't think they can prove beyond a doubt that he killed Kathleen but I think do think that he will eventually go down for Stacey!!!JMOHO :shrug:

[gaelicpeas]

Originally posted by Birdy

Has it crossed your mind that perhaps DP knew that Kathleen was already dead for the prior days of alledgly trying to return the kids home?......
That if he was really concerned that he could have broken a window and got in to check?
That calling the locksmith gave him another witness to say that he couldn't get into the house?
Stacy? An alibi for what? That she was minding the kids? What did that prove?, nothing.........
That Mary and a neighbor were the ones told to go upstairs to discover the body while he conveniently waited downstairs for what?
1) A frantic scream?
2) An alibi that he wasn't near the body that night?
3) A perfect setup for a defence,
Who called 911 that time? Do you know?
Well for me, I'm not buying any of his lame excuses. I don't think they can prove beyond a doubt that he killed Kathleen but I think do think that he will eventually go down for Stacey!!!JMOHO :shrug: [/*]

just weighing in here since the Lauterbach thread is closed for the night. :cuss: I personally think they have a better chance of convicting him in Kathleen's murder than in Stacy's murder.. unless they find Stacy's body. JMO

[Mamie]

Originally posted by gaelicpeas


just weighing in here since the Lauterbach thread is closed for the night. :cuss: I personally think they have a better chance of convicting him in Kathleen's murder than in Stacy's murder.. unless they find Stacy's body. JMO [/*]


I think he'll be down for the count if they get him for Kathleen. JMO, but when you put his history with the women in his life and how he stalked them, treated them, confined them, abused them and then with Kathleen he was hours away from finalizing the dollars of the divorce settlement in which he was going to have to share that which he did not want to share, then put that together with what Stacy's family has said she said and the pastor for what he has to say Stacy told him, I think it's all going to add up Drew. Who else could it be? Who else would have a motive to take out both of DP's wives?:shrug: JMO

[KINSEY]

WGN Channel 9 in Chicago reported that DP is going back to court today to try to get his "things" back! AGAIN!

[tagalong]

Originally posted by KINSEY
WGN Channel 9 in Chicago reported that DP is going back to court today to try to get his "things" back! AGAIN! [/*]

The Kids would like to have their "MOM" back too!

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by tagalong


The Kids would like to have their "MOM" back too! [/*]The kids would like to have their FAMILY back.

Has anyone given much thought as to what will happen to them?
My personal prayer is that Pam Bosco has the means to take them in.

[KINSEY]

Originally posted by tagalong


The Kids would like to have their "MOM" back too! [/*]

You know, being the narcissist that he is, that is of no importance to him. When he complains that the media is upsetting his kids, it's not about the kids, it's really about him, that the media is upsetting his lifestyle when they camp out in front of his house.

He could care less what the kids want, he's shown that over & over, but he wants his guns back. Is he planning a showdown with the cops when they come to arrest him????
:shrug:

[grammacares]

Originally posted by unclezeek
The kids would like to have their FAMILY back.

Has anyone given much thought as to what will happen to them?
My personal prayer is that Pam Bosco has the means to take them in. [/*]

I pray that DP is arrested and convicted so that someone else CAN raise those children. And I hope the people in charge select the person that can do the most good for them, as far as giving them a life as normal as it can be. Someone who will help them remember their mothers and not dwell on what their father has done. Someone who will love them unconditionaly.

:rose: For Stacy, Kathleen and all of DP's victims.

[steffaroob4]

http://www.whbf.com/Global/story.asp?S=7933106
Cops Must Return Drew Peterson's Belongings

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Uh, oh!

[steffaroob4]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson-hearing-webfeb28,0,2670105.story

Drew Peterson will get back within 30 days all of his property seized by investigators provided he agrees not to challenge the validity of photographs of them or documents related to them at any future trial, a judge ruled Wednesday morning...


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Well, that is interesting, I like that ruling. I wonder of police may make a move before the end of thirty days. Would that change the ruling?

[snap4]

Do they have to wait for the grand jury to complete their findings before they arrest him or can they take him in any time? I do not know the legal stuff behind a grand jury investigation, the purpose is just to see if there is enough evidence to try someone for a crime, right? So, is the accused allowed to be there for the whole hearing, or any part of it, along with their attourney? Or is it kept confidential until the accused is charged?
Thanks in advance
snap4

[steffaroob4]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/815271,022708peterson.article
But Will County prosecutors don’t want Peterson to get back the 11 guns taken from his home.

Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow has filed a letter asking Illinois State Police to revoke Peterson's firearm owners identification card, though a spokesman wouldn't say why Glasgow wants the card pulled.

Under the terms of the court order, revoking the FOID card would bar Peterson from getting the firearms back. Brodsky, though, questioned whether there is a basis to yank Peterson's FOID card.

[grammacares]

"Judge Richard Schoenstedt made the ruling during a Wednesday hearing. The only condition is that Peterson must agree not to challenge the validity of photographs of the property or documents related to them at any future trial."

Sounds like they may have gotten something from his belongings. But photos and documents dont scream solid evidence to me. I pray there is something that will get them closer to his end.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by grammacares
"Judge Richard Schoenstedt made the ruling during a Wednesday hearing. The only condition is that Peterson must agree not to challenge the validity of photographs of the property or documents related to them at any future trial."

Sounds like they may have gotten something from his belongings. But photos and documents dont scream solid evidence to me. I pray there is something that will get them closer to his end. [/*]

Well any more you don't see a lot of hard evidence, photgraphs are more popular, especialy if it is evidence that might have blood on it. I sure hope they found something.

I am worried about him getting those guns back.

[newbiee]

Originally posted by grammacares
"Judge Richard Schoenstedt made the ruling during a Wednesday hearing. The only condition is that Peterson must agree not to challenge the validity of photographs of the property or documents related to them at any future trial."

Sounds like they may have gotten something from his belongings. But photos and documents dont scream solid evidence to me. I pray there is something that will get them closer to his end. [/*]

It sounds like they are trying for a circumstantial case.
Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
this and tell me if it sounds like that to you.

[grammacares]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


Well any more you don't see a lot of hard evidence, photgraphs are more popular, especialy if it is evidence that might have blood on it. I sure hope they found something.

I am worried about him getting those guns back. [/*]

But if they had blood or body fluid evidence they wouldnt just take a photo of it. They would be keeping whatever article they found it on. Thats what leads me to believe there wasnt anything like that on his vehicles. jmo

[newbiee]

Originally posted by grammacares


But if they had blood or body fluid evidence they wouldnt just take a photo of it. They would be keeping whatever article they found it on. Thats what leads me to believe there wasnt anything like that on his vehicles. jmo [/*]

But could they have taken a before picture and after (luminol)picture, clean the vehicle and then give it back to DP. They have no body, have not charged him, so why not give him his vehicle.

Maybe they are wanting him to think that there wasn't anything on it, but actually there really was.

That could be why the judge said that photos later presented could not be contested.

Just a theory.
:read:

[grammacares]

Originally posted by newbiee


It sounds like they are trying for a circumstantial case.
Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
this and tell me if it sounds like that to you. [/*]

So far, we the people, only know of circumstantial evidence. And unless he confesses to what we believe he has done there isnt going to be a smoking gun. But, I have faith that there is enough evidence to put him away.

[no1what]

Originally posted by newbiee


But could they have taken a before picture and after (luminol)picture, clean the vehicle and then give it back to DP. They have no body, have not charged him, so why not give him his vehicle.

Maybe they are wanting him to think that there wasn't anything on it, but actually there really was.

That could be why the judge said that photos later presented could not be contested.

Just a theory.
:read: [/*]

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How is that going to hold up in court? He could just say that wasn't one of the photo's he agreed not to contest. The court should make him initial the back of each photo and finger print it. He can't contest that.

jmo

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by grammacares


But if they had blood or body fluid evidence they wouldnt just take a photo of it. They would be keeping whatever article they found it on. Thats what leads me to believe there wasnt anything like that on his vehicles. jmo [/*]

I sure hope they found some part of that container, I really hope.

[grammacares]

Originally posted by newbiee


But could they have taken a before picture and after (luminol)picture, clean the vehicle and then give it back to DP. They have no body, have not charged him, so why not give him his vehicle.

Maybe they are wanting him to think that there wasn't anything on it, but actually there really was.

That could be why the judge said that photos later presented could not be contested.

Just a theory.
:read: [/*]


So you are saying that if they found blood on the carpet in his vehichle , they would just photograph it, clean it up and give it back? I would think they would at the very least keep the carpet and hopefully keep the entire vechicle. A photo cant be tested for dna. I'm not trying to argue here, just trying to make a point. If they had good hard evidence he wouldnt be getting his belongings back, imo.

[newbiee]

Originally posted by grammacares



So you are saying that if they found blood on the carpet in his vehichle , they would just photograph it, clean it up and give it back? I would think they would at the very least keep the carpet and hopefully keep the entire vechicle. A photo cant be tested for dna. I'm not trying to argue here, just trying to make a point. If they had good hard evidence he wouldnt be getting his belongings back, imo. [/*]

I understand what you are saying. I'm just trying to find a reason that I can live with as to why they are giving him his stuff back along with having found something, anything in the vehicles that can show that SP was somehow in that vehicle. (of course I'm trying to say SP in the vehicle after she "disappeared, but I can't seem to word it correctly.)

[JeniferHart]

Originally posted by unclezeek
The kids would like to have their FAMILY back.

Has anyone given much thought as to what will happen to them?
My personal prayer is that Pam Bosco has the means to take them in. [/*]

I think of those kids, all the time ,and I couldn't agree with you more.

Afternoon Guys :seeya:
Haven't left you guys, just catching up on my life and thought I would stop by for a visit and see if there was anything new. Take care all!

[grammacares]

Originally posted by newbiee


I understand what you are saying. I'm just trying to find a reason that I can live with as to why they are giving him his stuff back along with having found something, anything in the vehicles that can show that SP was somehow in that vehicle. (of course I'm trying to say SP in the vehicle after she "disappeared, but I can't seem to word it correctly.) [/*]

I understand that. We all want to hear that they have found even just one thing that will end all of this. Unfortunately I dont think it was in the vehicles. Lets just hope there was more circumstantial evidence to add to what they already have. Sooner or later I hope it adds up to enought to put him away and Stacy and Kathleen and their families can have justice and closure.

[newbiee]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333090,00.html

Has anyone heard that DP was suppose to go on the Today show Thursday?

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson-hearing-webfeb28,0,2670105.story

Drew Peterson will get back within 30 days all of his property seized by investigators provided he agrees not to challenge the validity of photographs of them or documents related to them at any future trial, a judge ruled Wednesday morning...


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Well, that is interesting, I like that ruling. I wonder of police may make a move before the end of thirty days. Would that change the ruling? [/*]

I wonder the same thing, Steff. Perhaps the GJ is close to making a determination? If they hand down an indictment, then would LE have to return all those guns and the other things?

Come on, Grand Jury! Get busy and tell the world what you think of Drew!

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by newbiee
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333090,00.html

Has anyone heard that DP was suppose to go on the Today show Thursday? [/*]

Oh goodie. :rolleyes: I wonder if Brodsky will be there to help him in the interview.

[steffaroob4]

He also ordered Peterson to appear in court March 17 to go over the conditions for his property to be returned, which include an agreement to not dispose of the items and, in the event the case goes to trial, an agreement to not challenge the validity of photographs or other renditions of the property during the trial.
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/homepage/x1300270400
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be sure to check out the picture that goes with the article, lol.

[MystryPhobia]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
He also ordered Peterson to appear in court March 17 to go over the conditions for his property to be returned, which include an agreement to not dispose of the items and, in the event the case goes to trial, an agreement to not challenge the validity of photographs or other renditions of the property during the trial.
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/homepage/x1300270400
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be sure to check out the picture that goes with the article, lol. [/*]

LMBO thanks steffaroob.

You know what? That picture says it all.. IMO He has aged 10 years. Ewwww I DO NOT see what his new girl friend would see attractive about that man. He murders wives.. is an arrogant butt all the time.. and then you have to look at that face.. ughhh.. I couldn't do it.

[Justice_Dawg]

I am in shock! Cars, Guns, Computers?? He can have it all back??
That means they found NO EVIDENCE?? How can that be??
:confused:

[wandering]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
He also ordered Peterson to appear in court March 17 to go over the conditions for his property to be returned, which include an agreement to not dispose of the items and, in the event the case goes to trial, an agreement to not challenge the validity of photographs or other renditions of the property during the trial.
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/homepage/x1300270400
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be sure to check out the picture that goes with the article, lol. [/*]Eeeewww...he's hiding behind that beard. He looks like an old man. I think it's the beard...

[wandering]

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg
I am in shock! Cars, Guns, Computers?? He can have it all back??
That means they found NO EVIDENCE?? How can that be??
:confused: [/*]No, it means that cops get special rulings. Because they're cops, and have testified in court in front of those judges. It's a fraternity. :cuss:

[Justice_Dawg]

Originally posted by wandering
Eeeewww...he's hiding behind that beard. He looks like an old man. I think it's the beard... [/*]That is a good thing. I can't see his face. :tongue:

[Justice_Dawg]

Originally posted by wandering
No, it means that cops get special rulings. [/*]

Ohhhhhhh. :flamemad:

[Justice_Dawg]

Originally posted by newbiee
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333090,00.html

Has anyone heard that DP was suppose to go on the Today show Thursday? [/*]I heard it now. barf

[cherylt]

Originally posted by Justice_Dawg
I am in shock! Cars, Guns, Computers?? He can have it all back??
That means they found NO EVIDENCE?? How can that be??
:confused: [/*]


What if they collected all the evidence they could from all these items (after scanning multiple times)? And are awaiting finding the body to tie the evidence in? What really bothers me is that they gave his guns backs! IF SP turns up with a bullet in her, how do they get the gun back & test it to match with any exit or entry wounds she may have!? The agreement says he will not dispose of any of the items, but really, what's to stop him?

Uh oh, I guess I guess I just lost that gun; it was the darndest thing! :flamemad:

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by MystryPhobia


LMBO thanks steffaroob.

You know what? That picture says it all.. IMO He has aged 10 years. Ewwww I DO NOT see what his new girl friend would see attractive about that man. He murders wives.. is an arrogant butt all the time.. and then you have to look at that face.. ughhh.. I couldn't do it. [/*]

You know I couldn't even imagining serving him if I was a waitress, I think I would quit before having to be near him. He scares me. Could you imagine having to be in a room alone with him, like in a doctor's office? I sure hope they don't let him have those guns back.

[Justice_Dawg]

Originally posted by cherylt



What if they collected all the evidence they could from all these items (after scanning multiple times)? And are awaiting finding the body to tie the evidence in? What really bothers me is that they gave his guns backs! IF SP turns up with a bullet in her, how do they get the gun back & test it to match with any exit or entry wounds she may have!? The agreement says he will not dispose of any of the items, but really, what's to stop him?

Uh oh, I guess I guess I just lost that gun; it was the darndest thing! :flamemad: [/*]
If they had evidence, they would have been able to keep all items. Seems to me they found nothing they could present to that judge.

I am still in shock that he gave the items back. The pros. is right..Stebic will be filing next.

[Nova]

Good Evening All ... it's been a looong while and I was just checking in. I read the article Steffaroob posted upthread and it mentioned DP getting his items back within 30 days. However looks like Glasgow wants DP's gun permits revoked. GOOD. IIRC there were blue plastic shavings found in back of Denali I think ... maybe LE collected all they could and have it in evidence. I guess they have to return his items because he is not being charged right now. :shrug:
Don't know if I can stomach watching DP on Today Show. I got real sick of hearing DP spew nothing but BS, time and time again!!!
Sounds like GJ still plodding along ... hope they come up with something soon!!!!

[Devotion]

Originally posted by KINSEY

You know, being the narcissist that he is, that is of no importance to him.
When he complains that the media is upsetting his kids, it's not about the kids,
it's really about him,

that the media is upsetting his lifestyle when they camp out in front of his house.

He could care less what the kids want,

he's shown that over & over,

but he wants his guns back.

Is he planning a showdown with the cops when they come to arrest him????
:shrug: [/*]

Jmo.. Narcissist and more...

It's definitely dangerous to mention the word DIVORCE around this guy!

[steffaroob4]

Authorities say Illinois State Police have revoked Drew Peterson's state ID card that allows the former Bolingbrook police officer to own firearms.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5896463&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[KINSEY]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Authorities say Illinois State Police have revoked Drew Peterson's state ID card that allows the former Bolingbrook police officer to own firearms.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5896463&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 [/*]

I just found this article too, was going to post it. GOOD NEWS!

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by KINSEY


I just found this article too, was going to post it. GOOD NEWS! [/*]

I must admit, this is good news. Now, let's get some more, I like good news.:D

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by cherylt



What if they collected all the evidence they could from all these items (after scanning multiple times)? And are awaiting finding the body to tie the evidence in? What really bothers me is that they gave his guns backs! IF SP turns up with a bullet in her, how do they get the gun back & test it to match with any exit or entry wounds she may have!? The agreement says he will not dispose of any of the items, but really, what's to stop him?

Uh oh, I guess I guess I just lost that gun; it was the darndest thing! :flamemad: [/*]

I would imagine that they've test fired all of those guns and have bullets/shells on file to compare with anything that might be found IF Stacy has a bullet in her WHEN they find her.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Authorities say Illinois State Police have revoked Drew Peterson's state ID card that allows the former Bolingbrook police officer to own firearms.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5896463&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 [/*]

That is very good news.. Thank you for posting that!

[north-eh]

Originally posted by wandering
Eeeewww...he's hiding behind that beard. He looks like an old man. I think it's the beard... [/*]

Well well, and this is supposed to an improvment I guess. Not. What is this man thinking. jmo

[MystryPhobia]

I just saw on Greta that armed police officers showed up early this morning at Drew's and served both of his sons's with summons the GJ tomorrow morning at 9am.

I hadn't read anything about this on here???

How is he going to NY to be on the Today Show when his children are suppose to be there?

[Mamie]

Originally posted by MystryPhobia
I just saw on Greta that armed police officers showed up early this morning at Drew's and served both of his sons's with summons the GJ tomorrow morning at 9am.

I hadn't read anything about this on here???

How is he going to NY to be on the Today Show when his children are suppose to be there? [/*]


This is what I just asked on the DP appearing on the Today Show thread. LOL

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by MystryPhobia
I just saw on Greta that armed police officers showed up early this morning at Drew's and served both of his sons's with summons the GJ tomorrow morning at 9am.

I hadn't read anything about this on here???

How is he going to NY to be on the Today Show when his children are suppose to be there? [/*]
I heard about it earlier, but I didn't have it confirmed until now, WOW!

[gino1234]

and the plot thickens!!

jmo- drew will be charged before he ever gets his property back.


Stacy :rose: come home!!

Kathleen :rose: rest in peace!!

[Fallen Angel]

well does anyone know if the boys showed up in court?:shrug:


TIA

[TobyWong]

Good Day All!! I check all the time but am hoping and praying to hear on cnn that they've found the container that Stacy WAS in and have enough evidence to arrest drew. I had to write today after running for the remote to shut off the promo for the Today show. I will not particpate looking at him. He's one of those guys that I physically stand back from cause they are so smarmy, I don't even want someone like him to think I'm amused by thier ignorant faux charm. anyhooo
I also heard that the teen boys will be in front of the grand jury at 9 a.m and there was'nt going to be much drew's lawyer could do about it, in such a short time. My question is can they ask questions re: the day Stacy disappeared? I hope and pray those boys are not brainwashed like the jensen boys were. I hope they are dying to get in there today and just whisper a few truths about drew. They are proably to scared since they then have to go back to his home:flamemad: Just my two cents today. thanks for all keeping this thread going.
:rose: justice for all of drews victims

[JHP]

You know I was just thinking about those poor boys and all they have been through. I don't know if this has been discussed before but Stacy adopted those children when she was what only 7 years older then them?

What were the courts thinking when they allowed this?

[snap4]

I could not even begin to imagine what those poor kids are thinking and going thru. How in the hell can they expect those kids to say anything bad about the man they have to go back home to? OMG! they had better have something set in place that if they do want to say anything, that they can be removed from his "Care" (and I use that term loosly), because in my opinion he has never cared about them, but anyway, they must be just sick to their poor little tummies. I feel for them...what an auful postition to be in!!!! In my opinion they will be to scared or coached by "Daddy" to say anything and it will just be a nightmare for them unless they promise those kids they don't have to go back home.

so very sad!!!!

We need an smiley face that sheds a tear!!!

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by JHP
You know I was just thinking about those poor boys and all they have been through. I don't know if this has been discussed before but Stacy adopted those children when she was what only 7 years older then them?

What were the courts thinking when they allowed this? [/*]not to be nit picky but stacy was 24 when she vanished and the two boys are now 13 and 15....

[Anakerie]

2 questions:

Is Drew still going on the Today show?

Have his two sons shown up for the Grand Jury?

Anyone know?

ETA: Nevermind the first question, the Today show has an article up about his "interview".
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23385930/

[cog1]

I heard about the boys receiving summons for grand jury this morning.

Why weren't the boys in school at 9AM on Wednesday when served?

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by cog1
I heard about the boys receiving summons for grand jury this morning.

Why weren't the boys in school at 9AM on Wednesday when served? [/*]

That is a very good question. :shrug:

[JHP]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
not to be nit picky but stacy was 24 when she vanished and the two boys are now 13 and 15.... [/*] I was talking about her adopting the boys. How old was she when that happened.

For instance was she 19 then that made the oldest 12 IIRC. When they were adopted.
I just think it was young for a girl who was just barely an adult to have been allowed to adopt children so close to her age without the court having some question.



JMO

[grammacares]

She was their fathers wife, and no one contested it. No reason for the courts not to allow it. imo

[JHP]

Originally posted by grammacares
She was their fathers wife, and no one contested it. No reason for the courts not to allow it. imo [/*]
Well, I guess you are right. I was just thinking if you are looking at the big picture, that there are alot of questions maybe people should have been asking. But Drew was able to get away with quite a bit that maybe should have been questioned by certain authorities.
JMO

[Fallen Angel]

Originally posted by JHP
I was talking about her adopting the boys. How old was she when that happened.

For instance was she 19 then that made the oldest 12 IIRC. When they were adopted.
I just think it was young for a girl who was just barely an adult to have been allowed to adopt children so close to her age without the court having some question.



JMO [/*]stacy is 9 years older then drews oldest son. no matter how you do the math.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by grammacares
She was their fathers wife, and no one contested it. No reason for the courts not to allow it. imo [/*]Not to mention their brothers mother.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by Fallen Angel
stacy is 9 years older then drews oldest son. no matter how you do the math. [/*]Actually Stacy is younger than Drews OLDEST son.

Stacys sister Tina was 7 years older than her when she became Stacys gaurdian, is there a problem with that? I mean, what was anybody supposed to question here?

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by JHP

Well, I guess you are right. I was just thinking if you are looking at the big picture, that there are alot of questions maybe people should have been asking. But Drew was able to get away with quite a bit that maybe should have been questioned by certain authorities.
JMO [/*]Aside from the murder of Kathleen, everything Drew did was legal (everything related to Stacy and her adoption of Kathleens kids anyway).

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by cog1
I heard about the boys receiving summons for grand jury this morning.

Why weren't the boys in school at 9AM on Wednesday when served? [/*]Perhaps Drew is home-schooling them.......
Now wouldn't you like to be a fly on that wall:D

[tagalong]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Not to mention their brothers mother. [/*]

Actually half-brother AND HALF-SISTER, unless you know some brothers I haven't heard about. I'm sure you will gleefully let me know, if I'm wrong.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by tagalong


Actually half-brother AND HALF-SISTER, unless you know some brothers I haven't heard about. I'm sure you will gleefully let me know, if I'm wrong. [/*]Point is she was already a parent.

[steffaroob4]

Wow, did Ric Mims just say on Greta that DP still has fake ID's from his narcotics undercover days? I wonder why he would still have those.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Wow, did Ric Mims just say on Greta that DP still has fake ID's from his narcotics undercover days? I wonder why he would still have those. [/*]

I missed seeing Greta.. Guess I'll have to wait for the later edition of it...
:shrug:

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Wow, did Ric Mims just say on Greta that DP still has fake ID's from his narcotics undercover days? I wonder why he would still have those. [/*]

That's what I understood him to say. This was during the "Drewpy still has a gun" discussion. :shrug:

I just want to take this piece out back and :punch:

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Anakerie


I missed seeing Greta.. Guess I'll have to wait for the later edition of it...
:shrug: [/*]

Nothing earth shattering, the Mims comment is all I found interesting. When you watch later, listen to the female reporter Greta asks DP questions to. See if you think there is something odd there.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by steffaroob4
Wow, did Ric Mims just say on Greta that DP still has fake ID's from his narcotics undercover days? I wonder why he would still have those. [/*]When does a fake ID expire?

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by mollybrown


That's what I understood him to say. This was during the "Drewpy still has a gun" discussion. :shrug:

I just want to take this piece out back and :punch: [/*]Then do it.

Stop talking about it and do it.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by unclezeek
When does a fake ID expire? [/*]

Does an ID expire? I have never looked into the subject, are they fake driver liscenses or just fake ID's. I don't understand why he would still have stuff like that. Wouldn't the police monitor those things?

[newbiee]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


Does an ID expire? I have never looked into the subject, are they fake driver liscenses or just fake ID's. I don't understand why he would still have stuff like that. Wouldn't the police monitor those things? [/*]

Steff, if DP had anything fake, then the police would have no record of it. He could easily go to a place that can take a picture and print it out on anything and say it is an ID. I did it when I was growing up and it worked. (not proud of that of course) It's way too easy these days to get fake ID's and i'm sure DP had a few of them.

[newbiee]

Originally posted by unclezeek
When does a fake ID expire? [/*]

A fake ID never expires if it's made correct.

[tagalong]

Originally posted by newbiee


A fake ID never expires if it's made correct. [/*]

:lol:

[newbiee]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


Nothing earth shattering, the Mims comment is all I found interesting. When you watch later, listen to the female reporter Greta asks DP questions to. See if you think there is something odd there. [/*]

I haven't watched it, but can you fill me in?

[Cury-us Coyote]

With a beard and calmer manner, Drew Peterson tries to show his softer side
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/northwest/chi-drew-peterson_29feb29,1,4720115.story

[no1what]

Originally posted by steffaroob4


Nothing earth shattering, the Mims comment is all I found interesting. When you watch later, listen to the female reporter Greta asks DP questions to. See if you think there is something odd there. [/*]

----------------------------------------------------

Missed Greta. What is the odd thing with the female reporter?

[no1what]

Originally posted by newbiee


Steff, if DP had anything fake, then the police would have no record of it. He could easily go to a place that can take a picture and print it out on anything and say it is an ID. I did it when I was growing up and it worked. (not proud of that of course) It's way too easy these days to get fake ID's and i'm sure DP had a few of them. [/*]

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:lol:

imo Drew himself is a fake that needs to be put on record and seized by the police. Maybe the reason he can’t be a real husband is because he is still waiting for his fairy godmother to visit and turn him into a real man.

I still do not understand why the boys would need an attorney. Is Drew trying to throw suspicion? jmo

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by unclezeek
Then do it.

Stop talking about it and do it. [/*]

1) Of course I was talking figurutuvely :punch:

2) When we stop talking about this case, then this case turns out like so many others. Lost women and childen at the hands of their murderer. :(

I think I may need to take a little unclezeek break. Although at first your first hand information was interesting, it is now becoming combative. All we want is the truth for Kathleen and Stacy and ALL those children. Later Gator!

[no1what]

Originally posted by mollybrown


1) Of course I was talking figurutuvely :punch:

2) When we stop talking about this case, then this case turns out like so many others. Lost women and childen at the hands of their murderer. :(

I think I may need to take a little unclezeek break. Although at first your first hand information was interesting, it is now becoming combative. All we want is the truth for Kathleen and Stacy and ALL those children. Later Gator! [/*]

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Every body needs a little UZ break now and then. you don't need to leave you can chat with the rest of us.

[newbiee]

Check this web site out. Now everyone here can have a fake ID from every state.

http://www.theidshop.com/

:D

[tagalong]

Originally posted by no1what


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Every body needs a little UZ break now and then. you don't need to leave you can chat with the rest of us. [/*]

UZ, are you like this in real life or do you just play it on IN SESSION.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Lawyer Blocks Their Appearance
The Drew Peterson story swirls back into the spotlight today. He appeared on a nationally-televised news show while his attorney blocked his children from being brought before a grand jury. Anita Padilla brings us up to date.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5899862

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by no1what


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Every body needs a little UZ break now and then. you don't need to leave you can chat with the rest of us. [/*]

Oh I wouldn't leave :D Just useing the ignore button :rose:

[pcaves]

I hope LE is following the posts by UZ ... I get the feeling he is a direct link to DP, or maybe Thomas Morphey ... too creepy!

[Cury-us Coyote]

(includes R Mims, KS's niece & nephew, body language expert T Roberts)
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/the-search-for-stacy-peterson/

[grammacares]

Originally posted by pcaves
I hope LE is following the posts by UZ ... I get the feeling he is a direct link to DP, or maybe Thomas Morphey ... too creepy! [/*]

Unclezeke has a different way of looking at things. Doesnt make him wrong. He just wants to get to the truth like the rest of us. Seems to me he just wants facts and not a lot of speculation, which unfortunately is all we have at this point. He knew Stacy personally so his perspective is emotionally different than the rest of us who didnt know her. imo

[ruger]

Originally posted by grammacares


Unclezeke has a different way of looking at things. <ship> He knew Stacy personally so his perspective is emotionally different than the rest of us who didnt know her. imo [/*]

DP has a different way of looking @ things, also - imo.

How do we know he knew SP? And, if he did, in what capacity?

Not being antagonistic, I'm just sayin' ........

[newbiee]

Originally posted by pcaves
I hope LE is following the posts by UZ ... I get the feeling he is a direct link to DP, or maybe Thomas Morphey ... too creepy! [/*]

I have to agree with you also Grammacares. I don't think he is a direct link to DP and I don't think LE should be following his posts. He states his opinion on here just like we all do. Just because he puts out stmts. that contradict what we post doesn't make him a bad guy.

[grammacares]

Originally posted by ruger


DP has a different way of looking @ things, also - imo.

How do we know he knew SP? And, if he did, in what capacity?

Not being antagonistic, I'm just sayin' ........ [/*]

I dont "know" that he knew Stacy any more than we "know" what happened to her. But having followed his posts from the beginning and having been in a similar situation, I understand a lot of what he is saying. He has never said that DP was innocent of anythng, quite the opposite, he just questions some of the findings to make us all think more. . For instance, do you know without a doubt that DP was at KS's home when she died? We all think we know it, but there is no solid proof of that yet. We all think we know what happened, and we are all free to give our opinions on it. And if a subject is going to be discussed there should be nothing wrong with having a different angle on the matter. jmo

[tagalong]

Originally posted by ruger


DP has a different way of looking @ things, also - imo.

How do we know he knew SP? And, if he did, in what capacity?

Not being antagonistic, I'm just sayin' ........ [/*]

Unclezeek's brother was married to Stacy's sister Tina (who died of cancer). I think I have that right.

[mollybrown]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
(includes R Mims, KS's niece & nephew, body language expert T Roberts)
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/the-search-for-stacy-peterson/ [/*]

Good Clip. Thanks Cury :patriot:

[no1what]

Originally posted by grammacares


Unclezeke has a different way of looking at things. Doesnt make him wrong. He just wants to get to the truth like the rest of us. Seems to me he just wants facts and not a lot of speculation, which unfortunately is all we have at this point. He knew Stacy personally so his perspective is emotionally different than the rest of us who didnt know her. imo [/*]


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Then i would think you would not attack people who tend to be on your side. Save the attacks for the person who is causing you the pain.

[ruger]

Originally posted by tagalong


Unclezeek's brother was married to Stacy's sister Tina (who died of cancer). I think I have that right. [/*]

:seeya:

Thanks tagalong ...... however, I've seen zeek post that. I don't "know" for sure that "is" the case.

Not that it matters - heck on a msg bd., one can be whomever they want! I was just making some observations based on his strange (imo) conflicting posts.

Somedays he "grates" more than others, and THAT'S my opinion - point of view.

[ruger]

Originally posted by no1what



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Then i would think you would not attack people who tend to be on your side. Save the attacks for the person who is causing you the pain. [/*]

THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!;)

[no1what]

Originally posted by grammacares


I dont "know" that he knew Stacy any more than we "know" what happened to her. But having followed his posts from the beginning and having been in a similar situation, I understand a lot of what he is saying. He has never said that DP was innocent of anythng, quite the opposite, he just questions some of the findings to make us all think more. . For instance, do you know without a doubt that DP was at KS's home when she died? We all think we know it, but there is no solid proof of that yet. We all think we know what happened, and we are all free to give our opinions on it. And if a subject is going to be discussed there should be nothing wrong with having a different angle on the matter. jmo [/*]

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I don't get the feeling that he is questioning as much as he is attacking what people say and their thoughts. I don't see anyone here saying anything different about his thoughts than what his responses are.

[grammacares]

Originally posted by no1what



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Then i would think you would not attack people who tend to be on your side. Save the attacks for the person who is causing you the pain. [/*]

I'm not attacking, just stating an opinion. I didnt know there were sides to take. I just want justice served. I dont want those children to grow up not knowing what happened to their mothers.

:rose: For Stacy, Kathleen and all of DPs victims.

[Cury-us Coyote]

IIRC, in early November TP & KP provided taped statements to the grand jury. Why are they being called again? Is the GJ verifying TP and KP’s original testimonies have not changed since November? Did new information surface which prompted a new line of questioning? Why were they granted immunity?

A grant of immunity to a grand jury witness overcomes the witness's privilege against self-incrimination, and the witness is then required to testify. The prosecutor is prohibited from using that testimony or leads from it to bring charges against the witness.
http://www.abanet.org/media/faqjury.html

Was immunity granted as an assurance that a personal attorney was not needed? Can a lawyer accompany his clients inside the grand jury room in Illinois? If so, IMO DP and Brodsky will soon learn the line of questioning.

In the federal system, a witness cannot have his or her lawyer present in the grand jury room, although witnesses may interrupt their testimony and leave the grand jury room to consult with their lawyer. A few states do allow a lawyer to accompany the witness; some allow the lawyer to advise his or her client, others merely allow the lawyer to observe the proceeding.
http://www.abanet.org/media/faqjury.html

Your thoughts, including UZ’s, will be appreciated. TIA

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by mollybrown


Good Clip. Thanks Cury :patriot: [/*]

You are very welcome. It is a long video but worth the time invested, IMO.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by ruger


:seeya:

Thanks tagalong ...... however, I've seen zeek post that. I don't "know" for sure that "is" the case.

Not that it matters - heck on a msg bd., one can be whomever they want! I was just making some observations based on his strange (imo) conflicting posts.

Somedays he "grates" more than others, and THAT'S my opinion - point of view. [/*]My name is Sean Patrick Ryan.
I live in Peoria Arizona.
I will be at Midway airport tonigh at 7:10 pm, and my grandfathers funeral will be at Clardon Hills cemetary at 10 am Saturday morning.
That is in Darien Il.
I am not hiding behind a screename, I am not hiding anything. If you feel the need to find out if I am real, I will give you every opportunity to do so.
My grandfathers name is Leroy J Vacovsky, and if you would like to discuss how I feel about all this, I am willing to do so. After you pay your respects.

I have come just short of giving you my SS#, and yet I bet you still doubt who I am.

[grammacares]

It makes me ill to think that those children may know what their father has done and have to live with that knowledge. To think that there is noone in this world that they can trust or believe in is just heartwrenching. To be thrown into an adult world and have to deal with the Grand Jury and legal system at their young ages has got to be terrifying to them. :rose:

[tagalong]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
(includes R Mims, KS's niece & nephew, body language expert T Roberts)
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/the-search-for-stacy-peterson/ [/*]

Thanks Cury-us Coyote for this link. Most rewarding to watch. I think I'll watch it again!

[newbiee]

Uncle this is a place where anyone can give their opinion. I've played devil's advocate before, not saying you do, and some people did not like the fact that I did that. Just like people tell you to ignore other post, maybe they should just ignore yours. I for one enjoy what you say, no matter what it contridicts. It keeps me on my toes.;)

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by unclezeek
My name is Sean Patrick Ryan.
I live in Peoria Arizona.
I will be at Midway airport tonigh at 7:10 pm, and my grandfathers funeral will be at Clardon Hills cemetary at 10 am Saturday morning.
That is in Darien Il.
I am not hiding behind a screename, I am not hiding anything. If you feel the need to find out if I am real, I will give you every opportunity to do so.
My grandfathers name is Leroy J Vacovsky, and if you would like to discuss how I feel about all this, I am willing to do so. After you pay your respects.

I have come just short of giving you my SS#, and yet I bet you still doubt who I am. [/*]

My condolences, UZ. Have a safe trip.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by newbiee
Uncle this is a place where anyone can give their opinion. I've played devil's advocate before, not saying you do, and some people did not like the fact that I did that. Just like people tell you to ignore other post, maybe they should just ignore yours. I for one enjoy what you say, no matter what it contridicts. It keeps me on my toes.;) [/*]This is a place where you can only give the popular opinion, otherwise you are under attack.

[unclezeek]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


My condolences, UZ. Have a safe trip. [/*]I hate flying, I hate funerals, and I hate the fact that I am leaving 80 degree weather to fly into a snowstorm.

If not for the fact that I get to spend time with my family, this trip would stink.
Thank you for your well wishes, and I'll talk to you all on Monday.

[grammacares]

Originally posted by unclezeek
My name is Sean Patrick Ryan.
I live in Peoria Arizona.
I will be at Midway airport tonigh at 7:10 pm, and my grandfathers funeral will be at Clardon Hills cemetary at 10 am Saturday morning.
That is in Darien Il.
I am not hiding behind a screename, I am not hiding anything. If you feel the need to find out if I am real, I will give you every opportunity to do so.
My grandfathers name is Leroy J Vacovsky, and if you would like to discuss how I feel about all this, I am willing to do so. After you pay your respects.

I have come just short of giving you my SS#, and yet I bet you still doubt who I am. [/*]

My deepest sympathy to you and your family Uncle. May God be with you all.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Lawyer Blocks Their Appearance
The Drew Peterson story swirls back into the spotlight today. He appeared on a nationally-televised news show while his attorney blocked his children from being brought before a grand jury. Anita Padilla brings us up to date.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5899862 [/*]

Did you catch the thing at the end about Ric Mims seeing Drew in a store? He said that Drew got in line behind him and just "looked at him" and didn't say a word.. Wow.. Think Drew was trying a bit of "intimidation" on Ric? Scary.

[north-eh]

Originally posted by unclezeek
This is a place where you can only give the popular opinion, otherwise you are under attack. [/*]

My condolences to you, UZ
I enjoy a good sparr once in a while.
No offence taken UZ, but I've told you that.
;)

jmho

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by unclezeek
My name is Sean Patrick Ryan.
I live in Peoria Arizona.
I will be at Midway airport tonigh at 7:10 pm, and my grandfathers funeral will be at Clardon Hills cemetary at 10 am Saturday morning.
That is in Darien Il.
I am not hiding behind a screename, I am not hiding anything. If you feel the need to find out if I am real, I will give you every opportunity to do so.
My grandfathers name is Leroy J Vacovsky, and if you would like to discuss how I feel about all this, I am willing to do so. After you pay your respects.

I have come just short of giving you my SS#, and yet I bet you still doubt who I am. [/*]

My sympathies to you, Uncle. Have a safe trip, and hurry back home to the warmth. I'll be thinking of you.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
(includes R Mims, KS's niece & nephew, body language expert T Roberts)
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/the-search-for-stacy-peterson/ [/*]

Thank you for the link, Cury... It was very interesting to listen to.

[AmyO]

Originally posted by unclezeek
My name is Sean Patrick Ryan.
I live in Peoria Arizona.
I will be at Midway airport tonigh at 7:10 pm, and my grandfathers funeral will be at Clardon Hills cemetary at 10 am Saturday morning.
That is in Darien Il.
I am not hiding behind a screename, I am not hiding anything. If you feel the need to find out if I am real, I will give you every opportunity to do so.
My grandfathers name is Leroy J Vacovsky, and if you would like to discuss how I feel about all this, I am willing to do so. After you pay your respects.

I have come just short of giving you my SS#, and yet I bet you still doubt who I am. [/*]
Hey Sean! I am sorry that your grandfather passed. Please accept my condolences.

You are the voice of reason in this case and sometimes it's hard to hear even though what you say is absolutely correct! Little things like proof in a case like this makes it hard for us because we "just KNOW" DP is guilty as sin. I'm sure cops feel the same way when they go to the DA and ask them if they'll prosecute a case. I'm sure they're turned down often in need of more evidence.

Keep us on track! :patriot:

[Cury-us Coyote]

With a beard and calmer manner, Drew Peterson tries to show his softer side
Friends, new publicist hope to help suspect in wife's disappearance remake his image

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson_29feb29,0,2894163.story

[north-eh]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
With a beard and calmer manner, Drew Peterson tries to show his softer side
Friends, new publicist hope to help suspect in wife's disappearance remake his image

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson_29feb29,0,2894163.story [/*]

Publicist? What next, a rock band?

jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

Peterson Aims to Shape Up His Image
(includes audio)
http://www.wbbm780.com/Peterson-Aims-to-Shape-Up-His-Image/1744308

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by north-eh


Publicist? What next, a rock band?

jmo [/*]

Maybe DP will run for office - an election for coroner is coming and DP is known far-and-wide by his first name only.
jmo

ETA Publicist on Fox with Shep now.:)

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
With a beard and calmer manner, Drew Peterson tries to show his softer side
Friends, new publicist hope to help suspect in wife's disappearance remake his image

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drew-peterson_29feb29,0,2894163.story [/*]

Interesting that they mention "Peterson's supporters" and only quote Steve Carcerano. It makes me wonder how many "supporters" he has besides his own family and Steve C. Oh yeah.. I forgot to mention the supporters he's paying for like Brodsky and the publicist.

[north-eh]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


Maybe DP will run for office - an election for coroner is coming and DP is known far-and-wide by his first name only.
jmo

ETA Publicist on Fox with Shep now. [/*]

Yes, I can hear it now. Vote for Drew
He once was a sc***
Yup, it sticks in my mind. Jk, of course.

jmo

[CanCan]

Shep really let DP's publicist have it....saying that Shep doesn't care about DP's "softer side" etc.....Shep wants to know about the blue barrel the night Stacy disappeared.......how come DP ain't talking about that!

Go Shep!

jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by CanCan
Shep really let DP's publicist have it....saying that Shep doesn't care about DP's "softer side" etc.....Shep wants to know about the blue barrel the night Stacy disappeared.......how come DP ain't talking about that!

Go Shep!

jmo [/*]

IMO, that was humorous. lol Shep seldom refers to DP by his name only 'the man that keeps losing his wives'.
jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

YOU CAN ONLY SEE THIS ON GRETAWIRE!!!!
by Greta Van Susteren
OTR Producers Cory Howard and Steph Watts JUST sent me this picture… It’s Sgt. Drew Peterson and Stacy’s bedroom…
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[north-eh]

Thank you for all the great links Cury-us.
They are very much appreciated.

To you. :beer:

[Nova]

Thanks Cury-us for all the links ... very interesting.
So after 4 + months of DP and JB antics and bravado ... DP hires a publicist to change his public image. Thought he was tight on money (i.e. his website beggin for $$$). Sorry DP, a leopard can't change its spots. You are who you are, and IMO that is an abuser and a murderer.
I think DP realizes the "walls are closing in" so to speak ... and now he wants the potential jury pool to see his softer side. Cut me a break, its too late.
It sounds like the GJ is not letting this go and continues to move forward. GOOD.
As always for Kathleen, Stacy and their families
:rose:

[Cury-us Coyote]

GRACE: Carmen St. George, I agree with Joey Jackson and also Susan Moss, but here`s the fly in the ointment. You go on national TV to go ahead and start conditioning a future jury, make them start empathizing with you. But then, when you sit there -- let`s just put it out there. He looked like a ***** in church. He`s sitting there, ready to answer questions, totally out of place, but when he gets a question, he looks around and he won`t say anything. He`s afraid (INAUDIBLE) saying, How can I answer that? I can`t respond to that. He didn`t answer the questions.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/28/ng.01.html

[Nova]

I have to admit I missed the Today Show ... didn't feel like watching DP doing and saying the same "old thing" and don't you know he changed it up (his demeanor apparently). I did see a picture of him as he straddled the sofa :o .
I missed the NG show ... thanks Cury-us for posting the excerpt. Sounds like NG thinks DP is playing to the potential jury pool too. Guess she thinks he's going down soon, also. We can only hope.

[concernedmom]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
YOU CAN ONLY SEE THIS ON GRETAWIRE!!!!
by Greta Van Susteren
OTR Producers Cory Howard and Steph Watts JUST sent me this picture… It’s Sgt. Drew Peterson and Stacy’s bedroom…
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/ [/*]


I dont get Greta. :( I would love to see inside their home.

[concernedmom]

k. I just saw the 2 pics on greta wire and was surprised. It doesnt have anything feminine.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by concernedmom
k. I just saw the 2 pics on greta wire and was surprised. It doesnt have anything feminine. [/*]

No nightstands and kitchen is slightly out-dated, IMO.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Originally posted by concernedmom



I dont get Greta. :( I would love to see inside their home. [/*]

SORRY CM, skip this post or run to neighbors or dept store.

ON THE RECORD (10pm EASTERN) PROGRAMMING NOTE…
This should be interesting….Inside Sgt. Drew Peterson’s home….and a day in the life of Sgt Drew Peterson!!! Hhm… Yes, two ON THE RECORD producers (Cory Howard and Steph Watts) spent the day with Drew Peterson today to find out what he does….what his home is like…etc….TUNE IN AT 10pm EASTERN TONIGHT and see this!!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[tagalong]

Originally posted by concernedmom



I dont get Greta. :( I would love to see inside their home. [/*]

ooops! mistake

[TobyWong]

Hi! Just jumped on after seeing the pictures. The rooms look sanitized. And it makes me not watch any program that he's on trying to look all homey. In Stacy's kitchen.
I'm always lurking.
:rose: for Kathleen and Stacy's boys

[concernedmom]

I wonder if he has left any of Stacys pics out and what he has done with her stuff?

I was thinking "Sleeping With The Enemy" when I saw those pics .

[Mamie]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote


No nightstands and kitchen is slightly out-dated, IMO. [/*]


I don't think I'd be comfortable in a bedroom with two big pieces of furniture on both sides of the bed. Nightstands do nicely because they are functional yet give "breathing room" to an already large bed. And you're right, the kitchen is outdated but then maybe Stacy wasn't much in the kitchen anyway so it may not have been important to her. For some women they develop a love for cooking when they get a little older. I was one of those and now I absolutely love cooking.

[Mamie]

I do have to say that the first part of the interview in his house where he was showing them around, he spoke highly of Stacy and all her decorating efforts she put into the house and how very little if anything he had changed stuff, both in the kids' bedrooms and the dining area and livingroom, wherever we see the valances. I liked the way spoke of Stacy. Maybe someone has told him he needs to tone down quite a bit and show a real human side. JMO

[Mamie]

Originally posted by Mamie
I do have to say that the first part of the interview in his house where he was showing them around, he spoke highly of Stacy and all her decorating efforts she put into the house and how very little if anything he had changed stuff, both in the kids' bedrooms and the dining area and livingroom, wherever we see the valances. I liked the way spoke of Stacy. Maybe someone has told him he needs to tone down quite a bit and show a real human side. JMO [/*]

Ahhh----the thot plickens! He has hired a publicist who has cleaned up his image by telling him to act softer and say nice things. That explains it. I thought so.

[steffaroob4]

Originally posted by Mamie


Ahhh----the thot plickens! He has hired a publicist who has cleaned up his image by telling him to act softer and say nice things. That explains it. I thought so. [/*]

I bet he had notes prepared. It looked way too staged to me.

[CanCan]

IIRC, DP and Stacy's 4-poster bed is DP and Kathleen's bed.....creep me out, much. Has DP no shame whatsoEVER?????

jmo

[tina9111]

Originally posted by CanCan
IIRC, DP and Stacy's 4-poster bed is DP and Kathleen's bed.....creep me out, much. Has DP no shame whatsoEVER?????

jmo [/*]I don't really like that bed, especially the posts, it gives me an eerie feeling

[Cury-us Coyote]

Former Savio Inquest Juror Says He Has Regrets

A member of the coroner's jury that investigated Drew Peterson's third wife's death in 2004 says he has major regrets. Jim Pretto says hindsight is 20-20 in the case of Kathleen Savio. Tera Williams has the story.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5915574

[north-eh]

Originally posted by tina9111
I don't really like that bed, especially the posts, it gives me an eerie feeling [/*]

Tina 9111, I had the same feeling when I saw the bed. Rather creepy, yes.

jmo