Brianna Denison, 19, UNR, Reno, 1/20/08[BODY FOUND]

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by Adalena935


Then I'm wondering why LE didn't photograph the tag specifically and show it specifically to the public. worn or otherwise.

See what I'm saying?

Tag - tell the public
No Tag - tell the public
Worn Tag - Tell the public

They can tract duct tape, plastic bags and clothing in crimes. I know because I watch forensic files. lol [/*]

I could clearly see the tag in the pictures at rgj.com and the writing was all worn off.

[GentleBreeze]

Originally posted by Adalena935
I think he planted the panties to taunt LE. A catch me if you can taunt. As for when he put them there, who knows? :shrug: [/*]

I think there is a possibility when he went there they may have dropped out of his truck and he was unaware of it as he was dumping Brianna's body..

I very likely think the panties belong to another victim. One either where he raped her and she has not come forward yet or someone who is missing that they don't know about yet or maybe someone who has been missing for awhile and not yet been found.

Serial killers have been known to let some of their victims live while murdering others and they are also collectors of items belonging to the victims..


imoo

[wandering]

Originally posted by Adalena935


I had a stalker who broke into my house and stole my underwear for 12 years. It was a cop.

I agree with you it would be unlikely he'd leave his DNA. On the other hand cops know how to avoid the law because they operate within the law. They're a brotherhood and protect their own. The Illinois case with 1 dead wife & one missing is a prime example of LE doing nothing to their own no matter what. [/*]Geeze, shades of BTK, the "wanna-be cop."

ITA!

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by StillHoping


I could clearly see the tag in the pictures at rgj.com and the writing was all worn off. [/*]

Link to pic showing tag with no writing. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoompicture.pbs&Site=J7&Date=20080219&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=80219019&Ref=V1&rgj_caption=Underwear%20found%20near%20Brianna%20D enison%27s%20body%20that%20were%20not%20hers.&rgj_credit=Reno%20PD&cachetime=0)

[wandering]

Originally posted by Rick777
The thing with the thong is that they look way too good to have been there as long as her body was,(Weather included). That would mean he may have gone back and planted them. [/*]That's a very good point, Rick. :seeya:

[wandering]

Yay! Brianna finally has her own board. Who's gonna post links?

[wandering]

Originally posted by StillHoping


Link to pic showing tag with no writing. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoompicture.pbs&Site=J7&Date=20080219&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=80219019&Ref=V1&rgj_caption=Underwear%20found%20near%20Brianna%20D enison%27s%20body%20that%20were%20not%20hers.&rgj_credit=Reno%20PD&cachetime=0) [/*]But the ribbons aren't even frayed. That doesn't seem possible, if they were there all along, in the weather.

Possible the sun bleached the tag, but still, the ribbons...:confused:

Thanks for the link, SH. :seeya:

[StillHoping]

:seeya: Hi wandering.

Someone posted about a theory from Ann Rules "The Stranger Beside Me" about Ted Bundy. If the phases of the moon do have something to do with this guys urges, it's possible he may abduct another woman tonight, with the total lunar eclipse. :(

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Yay! Brianna finally has her own board. Who's gonna post links? [/*]

Great news!

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by Rick777
I just can't believe that nobody knows of a guy with a truck, and baby, or acting odd or suspicious. I would think ANYBODY with black pink panther UW would come forward, or check to make sure they still have them, or know someone who has them.

Those are great clues, but nothing is ringing anybody's bell! [/*]

Lots of people know of a guy with a truck and a baby. The trick is knowing which one has the killer's DNA.

Just because the abductor's truck had the baby shoe in it doesn't mean the baby was his. The baby (and the truck for that matter) could belong to anyone.

Was a case of a serial rapist profiled on Court Tv wherein the rapist borrowed trucks. That would widen the playing field.

BTK killer & The Green River killer both had trucks & babies. It took LE more than 20 yrs to catch both of those.

[BBkinkiad]

Originally posted by Adalena935


Thanks for that info. I was wondering. I tried to look up any older articles about the past rapes and couldn't find any. [/*]

Your welcome. I went looking for articles at RGJ.com, our local newspapers website, thinking I would post a link for you all. Unfortunately, I could not find anything that was not in their archives which have to be purchased. I know how much the posters of this board like thing backed up with evidence, rightly so, but all have to go on is my memory. I also looked for the emails but, we purged our deleted file on the 2nd of January. I wish I could give you all something more substantial...

Anyways I am off to the new board. :)

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by StillHoping


Link to pic showing tag with no writing. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoompicture.pbs&Site=J7&Date=20080219&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=80219019&Ref=V1&rgj_caption=Underwear%20found%20near%20Brianna%20D enison%27s%20body%20that%20were%20not%20hers.&rgj_credit=Reno%20PD&cachetime=0) [/*]

Thanks for that.

[Adalena935]

Originally posted by BBkinkiad


Your welcome. I went looking for articles at RGJ.com, our local newspapers website, thinking I would post a link for you all. Unfortunately, I could not find anything that was not in their archives which have to be purchased. I know how much the posters of this board like thing backed up with evidence, rightly so, but all have to go on is my memory. I also looked for the emails but, we purged our deleted file on the 2nd of January. I wish I could give you all something more substantial...

Anyways I am off to the board. :) [/*]

Oh hey I believe you read it on the front page. I was just glad to hear from someone in the area who knew. Appreciate that info.

[ruby]

Originally posted by StillHoping


Link to pic showing tag with no writing. (http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoompicture.pbs&Site=J7&Date=20080219&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=80219019&Ref=V1&rgj_caption=Underwear%20found%20near%20Brianna%20D enison%27s%20body%20that%20were%20not%20hers.&rgj_credit=Reno%20PD&cachetime=0) [/*]

Looks like an old pair of panties....could be a valentines themed thing tho which scares me....

[SameHere1]

Do you think they "blanked out" the tag in the photo of the panties? To not show the brand name?

I guess I'm wondering if they would cause negative advertising - for lack of better wording - by leaving the name brand on the photo?

[ruby]

Originally posted by SameHere1
Do you think they "blanked out" the tag in the photo of the panties? To not show the brand name?

I guess I'm wondering if they would cause negative advertising - for lack of better wording - by leaving the name brand on the photo? [/*]

My guess is that they are old and just worn off...someone will definitely notice if they are gone. But perhaps that person can't speak for herself at the moment...:confused:

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by wandering
Yay! Brianna finally has her own board. Who's gonna post links? [/*]

Hi - can you tell me where the new board is? I'm new here, and this is the only one I know of.

I'm hoping LE is planning to somehow gather DNA randomly, subtly, at the memorial service. My guess is this sicko will be there, or on the periphery, observing.

[ruby]

Originally posted by Rosieo


Hi - can you tell me where the new board is? I'm new here, and this is the only one I know of.

I'm hoping LE is planning to somehow gather DNA randomly, subtly, at the memorial service. My guess is this sicko will be there, or on the periphery, observing. [/*]

This is the 'new' board, it was moved to it's own section, so now we can post multiple threads on this topic.

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by ruby


This is the 'new' board, it was moved to it's own section, so now we can post multiple threads on this topic. [/*]

oh - DUH -I thought THIS board had moved --thanks!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Rosieo


oh - DUH -I thought THIS board had moved --thanks! [/*]

Hehe nope, it means that we can break down the boards now since there are so many posts.

we can set up a thread just for links

for evidence

for suspect info

ANYTHING to discuss really.....then it's easier to find things when looking back.

:hat:

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by ruby


Hehe nope, it means that we can break down the boards now since there are so many posts.

we can set up a thread just for links

for evidence

for suspect info

ANYTHING to discuss really.....then it's easier to find things when looking back.

:hat: [/*]

Thanks - I'm not accustomed to how these boards work (newbie) but I can see how that would make it much easier :)

[ruby]

Originally posted by Rosieo


Thanks - I'm not accustomed to how these boards work (newbie) but I can see how that would make it much easier :) [/*]

Usually in this case, every morning we'll start a new thread just for that day, sometimes if it's super active we'll do a morning thread and an afternoon thread! You'll catch on, and become addicted hehe. :patriot: (canadian flag please ahem)

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by ruby


Usually in this case, every morning we'll start a new thread just for that day, sometimes if it's super active we'll do a morning thread and an afternoon thread! You'll catch on, and become addicted hehe. :patriot: (canadian flag please ahem) [/*]

Thanks - I'll get the hang of it - I'm already addicted, reading and posting when I should be working :) It's very interesting to read everyone's theories, ideas, points of view.

:rose: RIP, sweet Brianna.

[ruby]

Quittin' time :D

Ill be on later after I run some errands, make dinner, workout...sigh. MAYBE I'll be on later lol.

See you all tomorrow and I hope we get some more news soon!!

RIP Bri :rose:

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by ruby
Quittin' time :D

Ill be on later after I run some errands, make dinner, workout...sigh. MAYBE I'll be on later lol.

See you all tomorrow and I hope we get some more news soon!!

RIP Bri :rose: [/*]

Have a good night, Ruby! I hope so too - this is frustrating!

:rose: RIP, sweet Brianna.

[wandering]

Originally posted by StillHoping
:seeya: Hi wandering.

Someone posted about a theory from Ann Rules "The Stranger Beside Me" about Ted Bundy. If the phases of the moon do have something to do with this guys urges, it's possible he may abduct another woman tonight, with the total lunar eclipse. :( [/*]Ewww...I know I always get a surge of energy at this time. Never really paid attention to it, but now in hindsight I do. Tried and true.

[StillHoping]

Originally posted by wandering
Ewww...I know I always get a surge of energy at this time. Never really paid attention to it, but now in hindsight I do. Tried and true. [/*]

I always seem to have very intense dreams around the full moon. Very vivid and detailed and they always feel very real. I've also noticed on full moons, the news coverage is nasty, filled with all sorts of violence, etc.

Kinda weird, I don't know what to think about it. I'm a fence-sitter on things like that. I can't rule it out, but it all seems so odd.

[omsk99]

I was away for a few days, and I am so sorry to come back to this horrible news :(


:rose:

[omsk99]

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5833270&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

http://patdollard.com/2008/02/reno-monster-taunts-cops-leaves-another-womans-thong-with-victim/

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4316208&page=1


rose:

[Jpanda]

Originally posted by omsk99
I was away for a few days, and I am so sorry to come back to this horrible news :(


:rose: [/*]

I was wondering where you were, omsk99. Good to have you back and I'm sorry you couldn't come back to better news. I'm praying daily that they find this POS before he becomes a serial killer (if he isn't already).

I feel so scared for everyone in Brianna's community, especially all the young girls. I can't believe no one has come forward yet!

JMO

[Anakerie]

I've started a links thread... Do you think we should start another regular thread? This one is huge.

[omsk99]

No, thank you! I will post those links there. Just feel so so,so bad for Brianna :(


Originally posted by Anakerie
I've started a links thread... Do you think we should start another regular
hread? This one is huge. [/*]

[baywench]

So glad to see this case has a board....I have been following it but the finding of the body has really put this case on my front burner. I need to go back and get caught up....so see ya later!

[wandering]

Originally posted by omsk99
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5833270&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

[/*]Thanks for the links. In this link, the thong looks well-worn. See the wear-fuzzies on it? Looks like it was laundered with light colored garments, not usually what a woman would do.

[ruby]

Originally posted by baywench
So glad to see this case has a board....I have been following it but the finding of the body has really put this case on my front burner. I need to go back and get caught up....so see ya later! [/*]

Look forward to your thoughts :)

[Jpanda]

Originally posted by Anakerie
I've started a links thread... Do you think we should start another regular thread? This one is huge. [/*]

I definitely think so. Im not a good thread starter but I'll follow you there!

[bred]

The fabric of the undies looks like gray flannel. It could have been tucked under Bri, stuffed under some of that long grass...away from the elements the whole time.

If the undies were just laying out in the open, going through snow, a thaw, snow again, maybe rain, sun, wind, etc...would the DNA of 2 people still be present? What does it take to get rid of DNA on/in clothing? If we knew more about the "durability" of DNA we might be able to make a closer to correct assumption. Anyone know?

[ruby]

Originally posted by bred
The fabric of the undies looks like gray flannel. It could have been tucked under Bri, stuffed under some of that long grass...away from the elements the whole time.

If the undies were just laying out in the open, going through snow, a thaw, snow again, maybe rain, sun, wind, etc...would the DNA of 2 people still be present? What does it take to get rid of DNA on/in clothing? If we knew more about the "durability" of DNA we might be able to make a closer to correct assumption. Anyone know? [/*]

Great question Bred!!! I don't have the answer, but good thinking.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by bred
The fabric of the undies looks like gray flannel. It could have been tucked under Bri, stuffed under some of that long grass...away from the elements the whole time.

If the undies were just laying out in the open, going through snow, a thaw, snow again, maybe rain, sun, wind, etc...would the DNA of 2 people still be present? What does it take to get rid of DNA on/in clothing? If we knew more about the "durability" of DNA we might be able to make a closer to correct assumption. Anyone know? [/*]

I don't know about DNA, but it says it's not Briannas's panties. This is horrible.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by omsk99


I don't know about DNA, but it says it's not Briannas's panties. This is horrible. [/*]

One of the articles I dropped into the new links thread said that the female DNA on the panties belongs to a 4th woman. The male DNA matches what they found before for this POS.

[wandering]

On NG now. Just reported that the DNA found on the panties has the perp's DNA on them, and the female DNA on them does not match any of his known victims.

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
On NG now. Just reported that the DNA found on the panties has the perp's DNA on them, and the female DNA on them does not match any of his known victims. [/*]

:cuss: this guy is dannnngerous

[wandering]

Originally posted by bred
The fabric of the undies looks like gray flannel. It could have been tucked under Bri, stuffed under some of that long grass...away from the elements the whole time.

If the undies were just laying out in the open, going through snow, a thaw, snow again, maybe rain, sun, wind, etc...would the DNA of 2 people still be present? What does it take to get rid of DNA on/in clothing? If we knew more about the "durability" of DNA we might be able to make a closer to correct assumption. Anyone know? [/*]It says "black cotton."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4316208&page=1

The other links all say "black."

[wandering]

Originally posted by Anakerie


One of the articles I dropped into the new links thread said that the female DNA on the panties belongs to a 4th woman. The male DNA matches what they found before for this POS. [/*]Maybe his ex-wife/GF?

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
It says "black cotton."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4316208&page=1

The other links all say "black." [/*]

Looks black to me, faded black. It's old underwear...been through the wash a lot.

Im assuming it's a young persons too, */c of the pink panther theme.

[wandering]

Discussion of "trophies" on NG. Named Bundy, BTK, and Ed Gein as keeping items as trophies.

[wandering]

Perp has tanned arms and forearms, no tan on stomach. Speculating that he may work outside.

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Perp has tanned arms and forearms, no tan on stomach. Speculating that he may work outside. [/*]

Thanks for all the new details :)

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby


Thanks for all the new details :) [/*]YW. Marc Klass is on now. Talked about Brianna's family, her mom, doing positive things in spite of her grief.

The family believes she was strangled right away.

He could be a plumber or repairman.

Susan Moss and Daniel Spitz up next.

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
YW. Marc Klass is on now. Talked about Brianna's family, her mom, doing positive things in spite of her grief.

The family believes she was strangled right away.

He could be a plumber or repairman.

Susan Moss and Daniel Spitz up next. [/*]


I feel she was too, early on at least....while abducting her. They say in previous attacks, he gave them the arm around the neck dealy...and one girl passed out. He may have killed her right away...meh who knows. If he killed her, he prob still raped her, so then he'd be a necropheliac....gag. barf

I dont know what to think...:shrug:

[wandering]

Police are worried that the panties belong to another victim. Possibly as yet undiscovered?

Moss thinks the panties are "staged." The baby's shoe (in his truck) is not staged, and is an important clue.

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby



I feel she was too, early on at least....while abducting her. They say in previous attacks, he gave them the arm around the neck dealy...and one girl passed out. He may have killed her right away...meh who knows. If he killed her, he prob still raped her, so then he'd be a necropheliac....gag. barf

I dont know what to think...:shrug: [/*]The clip on NG said he blocked their nose and mouth; one victim screamed and he ran away, the other passed out and awakened in his truck, and was sexually assaulted.

Those poor women must be traumatized, knowing they could have been killed like Brianna. :rose:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Police are worried that the panties belong to another victim. Possibly as yet undiscovered?

Moss thinks the panties are "staged." The baby's shoe (in his truck) is not staged, and is an important clue. [/*]
Good evening :seeya: I was watching Nancy's show too and heard that. I'll agree with Susan Moss about that part. I think whatever those papers were and the baby shoe were just things he has in the truck at any time. It was also offered on her show that he could've stolen the underwear. It really would be a big help if someone came forward claiming those panties.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Perp has tanned arms and forearms, no tan on stomach. Speculating that he may work outside. [/*]
Isn't this 'new' information about his skin color? I also heard Nancy saying Brianna was found 'posed'. When did LE release that?

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Isn't this 'new' information about his skin color? I also heard Nancy saying Brianna was found 'posed'. When did LE release that? [/*]:shrug:

CNN headline news blurb: Stores in Reno are selling out on pepper spray and tasers.

[baywench]

Originally posted by sunstar

Isn't this 'new' information about his skin color? I also heard Nancy saying Brianna was found 'posed'. When did LE release that? [/*]

Wouldn't pretty much everyone have tanned forearms in NV? :cool:

[baywench]

Originally posted by sunstar

Good evening :seeya: I was watching Nancy's show too and heard that. I'll agree with Susan Moss about that part. I think whatever those papers were and the baby shoe were just things he has in the truck at any time. It was also offered on her show that he could've stolen the underwear. It really would be a big help if someone came forward claiming those panties. [/*]

I'm at work so will see show on rerun but Susan Moss SCARES me LOL

[baywench]

Originally posted by ruby


Thanks for all the new details :) [/*]

Hey Ruby...good to see you here. Always like your posts.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by baywench


Wouldn't pretty much everyone have tanned forearms in NV? :cool: [/*]
From what I've heard, maybe in Las Vegas area but in Reno at this time of year it's been snowing. It's definitely much colder there than in southern part of the state.

[wandering]

Originally posted by baywench


I'm at work so will see show on rerun but Susan Moss SCARES me LOL [/*]i think she's hilarious. In a discussion about Britney Spears, asked about custody of Britney's kids, she said "Britney can't even get custody of herself!" :lol:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by baywench


I'm at work so will see show on rerun but Susan Moss SCARES me LOL [/*]
She is a bit dramatic at times! One of Renee Rockwell's suggestions even scared Nancy ~ that the perp was wearing the underwear. :eek:

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Good evening :seeya: I was watching Nancy's show too and heard that. I'll agree with Susan Moss about that part. I think whatever those papers were and the baby shoe were just things he has in the truck at any time. It was also offered on her show that he could've stolen the underwear. It really would be a big help if someone came forward claiming those panties. [/*]Unless she's another victim. I think the perp is enjoying taunting the police with that issue.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Unless she's another victim. I think the perp is enjoying taunting the police with that issue. [/*]
The thing we don't know is ~ how long has he had that underwear and how long has he been in Reno? Maybe he just arrived from out of state and stole the underwear from someone at a laundromat. Not that I'm saying that's what happened, but it's entirely possible the person who owned the underwear hasn't seen the local news. The same could also be true with whoever his wife/ex-wife/baby mother is. :shrug:

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

Isn't this 'new' information about his skin color? I also heard Nancy saying Brianna was found 'posed'. When did LE release that? [/*]

Yes the tan info is new news to me....and she said she was posed? OMG....that poor girl. No dignity in death. :rose: She was stunning and seemed like a genuine nice girl with a very bright future

[ruby]

Originally posted by baywench


Hey Ruby...good to see you here. Always like your posts. [/*]

Hi Bay....thanks so much that's very kind of you :beer:

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

The thing we don't know is ~ how long has he had that underwear and how long has he been in Reno? Maybe he just arrived from out of state and stole the underwear from someone at a laundromat. Not that I'm saying that's what happened, but it's entirely possible the person who owned the underwear hasn't seen the local news. The same could also be true with whoever his wife/ex-wife/baby mother is. :shrug: [/*]Ya mean before it got washed? :confused:

I think every woman in Reno, at least, is aware of it. They're selling out of pepper spray and tasers there.

BTK never went out of his area. :shrug: The other attacks were close by where Brianna was.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


Yes the tan info is new news to me....and she said she was posed? OMG....that poor girl. No dignity in death. :rose: She was stunning and seemed like a genuine nice girl with a very bright future [/*]
I'd heard too that Brianna would talk with her mom every day even when she was in California at college. This must be totally devastating for her mom. :(

[Heidi J.]

Originally posted by wandering
Unless she's another victim. I think the perp is enjoying taunting the police with that issue. [/*]

I fear this too.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Ya mean before it got washed? :confused:

I think every woman in Reno, at least, is aware of it. They're selling out of pepper spray and tasers there.

BTK never went out of his area. :shrug: [/*]
A person as sick as this guy is could've done just that! I'm just trying to think of why no one has come forward yet about the underwear (aside from the worst case scenario that he killed the person it belonged to) or why no one has given LE a clue as to who he is. BTK never went out of his area, but this guy could be like him in that no one suspects it's him. Or he could've recently moved to the area, like maybe in construction?

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

A person as sick as this guy is could've done just that! I'm just trying to think of why no one has come forward yet about the underwear (aside from the worst case scenario that he killed the person it belonged to) or why no one has given LE a clue as to who he is. BTK never went out of his area, but this guy could be like him in that no one suspects it's him. Or he could've recently moved to the area, like maybe in construction? [/*]Construction, now that's an important thought. The first attack was in October. A lead for LE to check out new construction in the area starting in October.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Construction, now that's an important thought. The first attack was in October. A lead for LE to check out new construction in the area starting in October. [/*]
Apparently this area where Brianna was found is a recently developed industrial park with some apartments and businesses. I still think he chose to dispose of her there from some knowledge of that particular spot as a sort of 'comfort zone' for him. I'm also thinking of the large (extended cab) truck and why he'd own it. That kind of job would fit.

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

I'd heard too that Brianna would talk with her mom every day even when she was in California at college. This must be totally devastating for her mom. :( [/*]

I know! she must be so heartbroken. Id like to give her a huge hug

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

Apparently this area where Brianna was found is a recently developed industrial park with some apartments and businesses. I still think he chose to dispose of her there from some knowledge of that particular spot as a sort of 'comfort zone' for him. I'm also thinking of the large (extended cab) truck and why he'd own it. That kind of job would fit. [/*]

I think of construction/service industry. Extended cab for other crew members....or family I guess. Could be his own business? Carpentry or something?

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


I think of construction/service industry. Extended cab for other crew members....or family I guess. Could be his own business? Carpentry or something? [/*]
I'm definitely thinking that too.

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby


I think of construction/service industry. Extended cab for other crew members....or family I guess. Could be his own business? Carpentry or something? [/*]I don't think he used that truck for his work. There was a baby shoe in it. Also a stack of typewritten papers. No reports of tools or anything of that nature.

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Apparently this area where Brianna was found is a recently developed industrial park with some apartments and businesses. I still think he chose to dispose of her there from some knowledge of that particular spot as a sort of 'comfort zone' for him. I'm also thinking of the large (extended cab) truck and why he'd own it. That kind of job would fit. [/*]A handyman in the area?

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
I don't think he used that truck for his work. There was a baby shoe in it. Also a stack of typewritten papers. No reports of tools or anything of that nature. [/*]

Well Nevada is Mountainous right? Trucks could be used for that terrain...im not really familiar with Nevada or what jobs could be on the rough terrains...

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
I don't think he used that truck for his work. There was a baby shoe in it. Also a stack of typewritten papers. No reports of tools or anything of that nature. [/*]
But didn't she only see the front seat part of it and not what could've been in the back? I'll agree the truck could've been for personal use also but I'm just thinking it was needed for work.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
A handyman in the area? [/*]
That's a good thought too. Some type of independent (like self-employed), manual labor.

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby


Well Nevada is Mountainous right? Trucks could be used for that terrain...im not really familiar with Nevada or what jobs could be on the rough terrains... [/*]I dunno. In Michigan, everyone has ATVs and pickup trucks. It has nothing to do with their work, it's just "cool" to drive one.

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

But didn't she only see the front seat part of it and not what could've been in the back? I'll agree the truck could've been for personal use also but I'm just thinking it was needed for work. [/*]

My BF is in service/construction industry and his extendicab truck has the tools in the back....the cab is actually pretty clean. and he does have typed work orders laying around. :shrug:

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


My BF is in service/construction industry and his extendicab truck has the tools in the back....the cab is actually pretty clean. and he does have typed work orders laying around. :shrug: [/*]
Exactly! :)

I just found this article, and apologize if it was posted here earlier but it's a very interesting commentary by a profiler ~

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/80220046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[wandering]

NG rerun on now, for those who missed it.

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

But didn't she only see the front seat part of it and not what could've been in the back? I'll agree the truck could've been for personal use also but I'm just thinking it was needed for work. [/*]I'm not denying that, but the whole thing sounds too clean for that type of job. :shrug: And why would there be a baby shoe in it, then?

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

Exactly! :)

I just found this article, and apologize if it was posted here earlier but it's a very interesting commentary by a profiler ~

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/80220046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews [/*]

that is very interesting....I cannot wait to see what this creep looks like.

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
NG rerun on now, for those who missed it. [/*]

Thanks, watchiing it now.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
I'm not denying that, but the whole thing sounds too clean for that type of job. :shrug: And why would there be a baby shoe in it, then? [/*]
About the baby shoe, there's a paragraph in the article I just linked that could explain it ~

"Typically, sexual killers are addicted to the fantasies they have about asserting power and control over specific victims. Some target certain types of women who remind them of those who rejected them, or were somehow mean to them. Or, they could resemble their ex-girlfriends or wives."

What if he just went through a divorce, and she kept their child? Maybe he kept the baby's shoes? That the victim only saw one shoe doesn't mean the other one wasn't elsewhere in the truck. Just speculating. :)

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Exactly! :)

I just found this article, and apologize if it was posted here earlier but it's a very interesting commentary by a profiler ~

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/80220046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews [/*]Thanks, that was very interesting. Aha, my theory that the perp may have an ex-wife that caused his anger is in there (loss of control).

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


that is very interesting....I cannot wait to see what this creep looks like. [/*]
Not only that but now I can't wait to see who he is, what his occupation is and what parts of the profile are accurate.

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Thanks, that was very interesting. Aha, my theory that the perp may have an ex-wife that caused his anger is in there (loss of control). [/*]

Yes that is a very big thing! He definitely has anger towards women, no respect.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Thanks, that was very interesting. Aha, my theory that the perp may have an ex-wife that caused his anger is in there (loss of control). [/*]
That's what caught my attention too. :)

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

Not only that but now I can't wait to see who he is, what his occupation is and what parts of the profile are accurate. [/*]

I know me too, like if he is in a relationship or something. It's so scary that these people lead normal lives and creep by night...*shudder* so scary.

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

Not only that but now I can't wait to see who he is, what his occupation is and what parts of the profile are accurate. [/*]Yes, wish we knew what LE knows. They do seem to be onto several things. They certainly are making this a priority.

Oh, they just showed a picture of beautiful Polly Klaas on NG. :rose:

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, wish we knew what LE knows. They do seem to be onto several things. They certainly are making this a priority.

Oh, they just showed a picture of beautiful Polly Klaas on NG. :rose: [/*]

Yah LE definitely knows more than we know (which is fine of course)....it's just so sad.

Aww (as per NG) her mom said "how dare he" in regards to throwing her away in a field. :( How horrible...I can't even imagine how families feel in these circumstances.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, wish we knew what LE knows. They do seem to be onto several things. They certainly are making this a priority.

Oh, they just showed a picture of beautiful Polly Klaas on NG. :rose: [/*]
I saw that beautiful photo of Polly when I watched Nancy earlier. :)

Greta just covered Brianna, but basically the same things we already know. She showed the sketch of the suspect along with information given by the Dec. victim.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


Yah LE definitely knows more than we know (which is fine of course)....it's just so sad.

Aww (as per NG) her mom said "how dare he" in regards to throwing her away in a field. :( How horrible...I can't even imagine how families feel in these circumstances. [/*]
The only good thing is that Brianna's body was found and she can be laid to rest, which is a lot more than Natalee's family can do. It's been said that not knowing anything is worse than knowing the worst happened. :(

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

The only good thing is that Brianna's body was found and she can be laid to rest, which is a lot more than Natalee's family can do. It's been said that not knowing anything is worse than knowing the worst happened. :( [/*]

I totally agree! I couldn't stand not knowing, and not having a body to bury. That would eat me alive.

[wandering]

Originally posted by sunstar

The only good thing is that Brianna's body was found and she can be laid to rest, which is a lot more than Natalee's family can do. It's been said that not knowing anything is worse than knowing the worst happened. :( [/*]So many beautiful young women, gone. :rose:

[ruby]

it is bothering me that they are saying on NG, that her body was posed. WHAT does that mean :shrug:
He actually TOOK the time to pose her? hammer

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby
it is bothering me that they are saying on NG, that her body was posed. WHAT does that mean :shrug:
He actually TOOK the time to pose her? hammer [/*]How long do you think that takes?

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
How long do you think that takes? [/*]

Well if I'm dumping a body, I'd be throwing it out the truck as I drive by....it's not like he was in a forest in the middle of the night. He took a risk of being seen IMO

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby
it is bothering me that they are saying on NG, that her body was posed. WHAT does that mean :shrug:
He actually TOOK the time to pose her? hammer [/*]
I caught that too, but haven't heard it from LE or in the local media, so maybe it's speculation. It wouldn't take a lot of time to pose a body though, if it is true.

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

I caught that too, but haven't heard it from LE or in the local media, so maybe it's speculation. It wouldn't take a lot of time to pose a body though, if it is true. [/*]

This guy makes me sick.

[sunstar]

Originally posted by ruby


This guy makes me sick. [/*]
He's a monster who needs to be caught very, very soon. I guess we won't hear anything more tonight, so I'll say goodnight! Hopefully some news tomorrow. :seeya:

[ruby]

Originally posted by sunstar

He's a monster who needs to be caught very, very soon. I guess we won't hear anything more tonight, so I'll say goodnight! Hopefully some news tomorrow. :seeya: [/*]


Me too, stay safe everyone :seeya:

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby


Well if I'm dumping a body, I'd be throwing it out the truck as I drive by....it's not like he was in a forest in the middle of the night. He took a risk of being seen IMO [/*]Serial killers do that frequently.

[wandering]

Originally posted by wandering
Serial killers do that frequently. [/*]Good night, everybody. :seeya:

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Serial killers do that frequently. [/*]

Yep I suppose you're right...the whole posing/staging bothers me */c he's so brazen....he thinks he wont be caught and he's playing that up.

have a wonderful evening. :):seeya:

[Kelly3820]

If he is into posing the body I wonder if that means he has killed before?

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by ruby


Well Nevada is Mountainous right? Trucks could be used for that terrain...im not really familiar with Nevada or what jobs could be on the rough terrains... [/*]

There are mountains in Nevada. There is also desert... A lot of desert. Reno is surrounded by mountains, big and small. The terrain in the city is fairly flat, but sloped from the mountains in the west and in the south. If you look back a few pages, there were links to some pictures of Reno that would give you a good idea of what the terrain is there.

As for jobs in Reno, they are as varied as anywhere else. You name it, they've got it. Plus the added bonus of jobs in the casinos and the showrooms. :shrug:


ETA: some of the photo links showing the city of Reno that were posted a couple days ago:

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesv/picv635.php

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesv/picv1462.php

http://www.cowboyshowcase.com/image...no/Reno.h22.jpg

[Anakerie]

Also, I wanted to ask something. Everyone seems to be concentrating on the "truck" thing. Didn't LE initially say an "extended cab truck or an SUV"? Has the SUV part been excluded now? I have a truck driver friend who drives through Reno 4 days a week and I want to give him a semi accurate description of the vehicle to be on the look out for.

[Kelly3820]

I feel the vehicle info is okay but can't get bogged down with it. Remember the DC sniper case when everyone was looking for a white van or truck and the snipers did not have a vehicle like that. This perp could have ditched what he is riding or borrowed it. I think the timeline is interesting. The areas are interesting. It could mean that he lives near there, works there, or grew up there. Somebody knows something that could lead to a big break in this case.

[Anakerie]

Originally posted by Kelly3820
I feel the vehicle info is okay but can't get bogged down with it. Remember the DC sniper case when everyone was looking for a white van or truck and the snipers did not have a vehicle like that. This perp could have ditched what he is riding or borrowed it. I think the timeline is interesting. The areas are interesting. It could mean that he lives near there, works there, or grew up there. Somebody knows something that could lead to a big break in this case. [/*]

While I feel it's unlikely that my friend would actually spot the truck/SUV when he's in Reno, I just figured it wouldn't hurt to give him the info. The view from the cab of a big rig is so much higher than most vehicles. He rarely watches the news, but listens so a bit on the radio. I'm sure he gets an earful when he delivers at the post office and then heads on out.

The timeline is kind of scary, actually. Today is the 20th. He's been attacking about once a month right? It's been a month since he took Bri.

:chicken:

[duncan]

I just can not read all of the posts, I keep thinking back to bundy, do we know what the other victims look like??? Is this killer attracted to a certain "look"???


If I remember , Ted Bundy liked to kill girls with long dark hair parted in the middle, it seemed as if he targeted "nice" girls, it is so cold when I say it, but has this demon chosen a body type that he prefers ???

[wandering]

Originally posted by Kelly3820
If he is into posing the body I wonder if that means he has killed before? [/*]Not necessarily. He's enacting his fantasies. He may have just crossed the line.

At first I thought he killed Brianna because she could ID him. But now, with the posing, it's clear there's much more to it.

I hope they catch him, I doubt that he'll stop now. :chicken:

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Not necessarily. He's enacting his fantasies. He may have just crossed the line.

At first I thought he killed Brianna because she could ID him. But now, with the posing, it's clear there's much more to it.

I hope they catch him, I doubt that he'll stop now. :chicken: [/*]

I completely agree with you. and good morning :) shall we start a new thread today?

[wandering]

Originally posted by ruby


I completely agree with you. and good morning :) shall we start a new thread today? [/*]Yes, would you please? Thank you so much for starting the "details" thread. It's very good. :seeya:

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, would you please? Thank you so much for starting the "details" thread. It's very good. :seeya: [/*]

I thought it would be helpful */c there are TONS of details about this perp, and as more emerge, it may be easier for us to refer back to that. :)

New thread started. Enjoy.

[Rosieo]

I was just reading the Nancy Grace transcript from last night-she said that the family believes she was killed right away and probably didn't know what had happened to her. She also said that Brianna's clothes were on........with the blood on the pillow, no scream, etc., I'm assuming he hit her in the head to render her unconscious when he took her - hearing that her clothes were on, I wonder if he hit her hard enough that she didn't regain consciousness and it infuriated him. I'm hoping that is the case, that from the moment he took her from the house, she never knew anything further. Her body being staged really bothers me. Her poor family, may God give them the strength to get through this.

[wandering]

Originally posted by Rosieo
I was just reading the Nancy Grace transcript from last night-she said that the family believes she was killed right away and probably didn't know what had happened to her. She also said that Brianna's clothes were on........with the blood on the pillow, no scream, etc., I'm assuming he hit her in the head to render her unconscious when he took her - hearing that her clothes were on, I wonder if he hit her hard enough that she didn't regain consciousness and it infuriated him. I'm hoping that is the case, that from the moment he took her from the house, she never knew anything further. Her body being staged really bothers me. Her poor family, may God give them the strength to get through this. [/*]I didn't hear any reports of a head injury. :confused: I think the blood on the pillow is from the perp, perhaps she bit him while he had his hand over her mouth. Does anyone know whose blood it was?

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by wandering
I didn't hear any reports of a head injury. :confused: I think the blood on the pillow is from the perp, perhaps she bit him while he had his hand over her mouth. Does anyone know whose blood it was? [/*]

I'm sorry, didn't mean to mislead - I didn't hear any reports of a head injury, either - I was assuming that's how he got her out of there. I *think*, if I recall correctly, that the blood was identified as hers, I'm pretty sure I did read that. I was just guessing/assuming that he knocked her out, to get her out of there so quietly. I don't know if they've released any additional injuries, or just the COD.

[RainyNiteNTx]

See I always thought it would be the perp's blood also, but if I am remembering correctly, it was said there was blood in the amount of about a silver dollar and it belonged to Brianna. I can't find the first links on this to confirm it.

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by RainyNiteNTx
See I always thought it would be the perp's blood also, but if I am remembering correctly, it was said there was blood in the amount of about a silver dollar and it belonged to Brianna. I can't find the first links on this to confirm it. [/*]

I was just reading the Scared Monkeys site (www.*************.net) and found this:

Genetic sampling (DNA) has been identified from the scene of Brianna’s disappearance and has been linked to the Kidnap/Sexual assault case as mentioned above. Additionally, the blood found on the pillow at the residence has been identified as belonging to Brianna. Her clothing at the time of her disappearance was described as a white tank top with pink angel wings with rhinestones on the back and word “Bindi” on the back. She was wearing pink sweats that had two distinctive brown stains on one leg.


It also said she texted her BF at 4:23 a.m. on Sun. morning. I saw it reported a lot that she went to bed around 4, but never saw before that she texted her BF at 4:23, now this has me wondering if she was even asleep when he took her, or if she was still awake. I don't know what time sunrise was there on that date, but I would think he took her while it was still dark out. Her poor BF, he must feel horrible :(

[wandering]

Thank you, Rosieo. :seeya:

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by wandering
Thank you, Rosieo. :seeya: [/*]

Welcome!

[butterfly28]

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080221/NEWS01/80221043&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews


Reno police today will be re-interviewing a University of Nevada, Reno student who reported she had been groped by an unidentified man in mid-October as she was walking near campus.

[butterfly28]

From the article above....

"McDonald said it’s untrue that her body was posed, and that many of the guests on these television shows have been speculating.

We have never released any information, nor are we about the condition of her body,” McDonald said. “We know it’s a sexually motivated crime and we’re not talking at this point about what that means. None of the investigators have ever made any comments about this.”

[wandering]

Originally posted by butterfly28
From the article above....

"McDonald said it’s untrue that her body was posed, and that many of the guests on these television shows have been speculating.

We have never released any information, nor are we about the condition of her body,” McDonald said. “We know it’s a sexually motivated crime and we’re not talking at this point about what that means. None of the investigators have ever made any comments about this.” [/*]Thank you, butterfly. Some caller should bring that up to NG. Now I recall why I usually don't watch her.

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by wandering
Thank you, butterfly. Some caller should bring that up to NG. Now I recall why I usually don't watch her. [/*]

I don't either - I just read the transcript if she has something interesting on - thanks, butterfly, that makes me feel a *little* better - not that there's anything good about this case, but that would be some consolation; it's bad enough as it stands.

[Rosieo]

Does anyone know why I put the :rose: in my signature, but all that's showing up is ":rose:" ?

[columbo]

WM
Divorced/Seperated
Father
Custody rights (Kids shoe)
Landscaper\Construction\Laborer\Real Estate Agent\"Part Time" Student
Company vehicle? Usually Extended cab/SUV types.
May of just lost his job or is about to.
Well groomed.
Narscassist personality
Beard sounds fake.
No hair. No evidence.
Many trigger events have happened to this individual, starting last year.
May have had access to a school via a part time student status.
May have a student ID.
May use a gym/track/tennis facilities
Keeps track of the current media coverage
Underwear left not belonging to the victim is unusual. The offering up of evidence is bragadocious Not thinking they are from another victim, but maybe a breaking and entry gone awry, with no victim home. Stole underwear. Masturbated into them and left them at the crime scene as a potential "You got lucky this time or you would of had another" message.
Organized
Will strike again
Depends on his current state. If things in his life are rapidly deteriorating he will strike again sooner than later. In this iinstance I believe he will be eventually caught. Sooner than later.
But If his life is somewhat stabilizing, he may become more conservative with the increased public awareness. This iinstance begs a longer time in between capture.

Good night

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by stopthemurde


I guess the sig line is not interpreted for icons, smiles... it is just treated a plain text
Have you seen anyone having anything but text in their sig line.. I have not here... at some boeards like Stacys's own board the let in big sigs which is annoying... takes half the page to get thru one sig [/*]

Ahhhhhhhhh maybe that's why - maybe it won't take graphics -thanks! I wish we'd have had some new info today -

[Jon]

Is there a timeline available anywhere for the night Brianna was abducted?

I have a few questions for anyone who knows the answers:

1) About what time did Brianna go to sleep on the couch?

2) I heard something on TV about Brianna sending a text message to her bf at around 4 am, is this true?

3) I read there was a break in at the apt of a previous victim, which was located only a short distance away. Was this the same night Brianna was abducted, or about 24 hours earlier?

TIA!

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by Jon
Is there a timeline available anywhere for the night Brianna was abducted?

I have a few questions for anyone who knwos the answers:

1) About what time did Brianna go to sleep on the couch?

Hi Jon - she texted her BF at 4:23 a.m. It's assumed she went to sleep shortly after.



2) I heard something on TV about Brianna sending a text message to her bf at around 4 am, is this true?


Yes - she texted him at 4:23 a.m.



3) I read there was a break in at the apt of a previous victim, which was located only a short distance away. Was this the same night Brianna was abducted, or about 24 hours earlier?

TIA! [/*]

About 24 hours earlier - he broke in or attempted to break into the previous victim's house on the 19th - she was gone, she'd already moved. He took Bri on the 20th. I'm surprised everyone seems to have quit posting since the memorial service :(

[Jon]

Originally posted by Rosieo


About 24 hours earlier - he broke in or attempted to break into the previous victim's house on the 19th - she was gone, she'd already moved. He took Bri on the 20th. I'm surprised everyone seems to have quit posting since the memorial service :( [/*]

Thanks. Re: break-in, it's confusing because he could have broken in just 5 hours earlier and that would have been on the 19th- and I read some posts where people seemed to think the break-in was the same night. But you're sure break in was early morning of the 19th?

Couple more questions:

1) About what time did Brianna get back to the house, before going to sleep?

2) Is it true that the home of the 2nd victim, the one that was broken into, was only a few hundred feet from the house where Brianna was sleeping?

I read some speculation that after not finding the 2nd victim at home, the frustrated perp either went looking around the area for another victim, or just happened to see Brianna as he was passing by on the way back to his car.

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by Jon


Thanks. Re: break-in, it's confusing because he could have broken in just 5 hours earlier and that would have been on the 19th- and I read some posts where people seemed to think the break-in was the same night. But you're sure break in was early morning of the 19th?

Hi - good questions - ones I can't be of much help with :( I'm not sure of the timing of the break-in - all I saw publicized was that it was on the 19th but true, it could have been just before midnight.

Couple more questions:

1) About what time did Brianna get back to the house, before going to sleep?

I'm not sure, I haven't seen this anywhere - I'd be interested to know this also - I know the friend said she got a ride home around 1:30 because Brianna and KT wanted to stay there for a couple more hours.


2) Is it true that the home of the 2nd victim, the one that was broken into, was only a few hundred feet from the house where Brianna was sleeping?

I'm not sure of the exact distance, but yes, it was very nearby.


I read some speculation that after not finding the 2nd victim at home, the frustrated perp either went looking around the area for another victim, or just happened to see Brianna as he was passing by on the way back to his car. [/*]

I've heard this, too, and it is entirely possible, IMO.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Jon


Thanks. Re: break-in, it's confusing because he could have broken in just 5 hours earlier and that would have been on the 19th- and I read some posts where people seemed to think the break-in was the same night. But you're sure break in was early morning of the 19th?

Couple more questions:

1) About what time did Brianna get back to the house, before going to sleep?

2) Is it true that the home of the 2nd victim, the one that was broken into, was only a few hundred feet from the house where Brianna was sleeping?

I read some speculation that after not finding the 2nd victim at home, the frustrated perp either went looking around the area for another victim, or just happened to see Brianna as he was passing by on the way back to his car. [/*]

I had always assumed it was the night before because they said the 19th but you are right... it could have been just hours before.... :shrug:

Here is a link to a map that shows both houses.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20080131&Kategori=SPECIAL06&Lopenr=80129042&Ref=AR

They are about 5-6 blocks apart. Very close.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Rosieo


I'm surprised everyone seems to have quit posting since the memorial service :( [/*]

We are still here though. :beer:

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by butterfly28


We are still here though. :beer: [/*]

Oh, good :) I thought the thread moved and I missed it or that everyone just stopped posting - I don't know these boards very well, so I can get lost very easily. LOL I sure wish we'd get some new news :(

[Jon]

Originally posted by butterfly28


I had always assumed it was the night before because they said the 19th but you are right... it could have been just hours before.... :shrug:

Here is a link to a map that shows both houses.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20080131&Kategori=SPECIAL06&Lopenr=80129042&Ref=AR

They are about 5-6 blocks apart. Very close. [/*]

Thanks, I don't see the location of the break-in marked on this map (the balloon near the house Brianna was abducted from, marks the location of the Nov attack) , but the map does answer my question re: the break-in time: About 5:00 am in the 19th, so 24 hours earlier.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Rosieo


Oh, good :) I thought the thread moved and I missed it or that everyone just stopped posting - I don't know these boards very well, so I can get lost very easily. LOL I sure wish we'd get some new news :( [/*]

I am the same way. When this thread moved to the top I did not know for a few days. :rolleyes: We're learning.

It does seem like there are less people posting but I guess that is expected with no new information. Hopefully people do not give up until there is justice for Bri!!

[butterfly28]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jon


Thanks, I don't see the location of the break-in marked on this map (the balloon near the house Brianna was abducted from, marks the location of the Nov attack) , but the map does answer my question re: the break-in time: About 5:00 am in the 19th, so 24 hours earlier. [/*][/QUOTE



I thought the location of the break-in was the balloon that says 5am on the 19th- not near the house where Bri was (the one that you mentioned above). Are you talking about a different break-in?

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by butterfly28


I am the same way. When this thread moved to the top I did not know for a few days. :rolleyes: We're learning.

It does seem like there are less people posting but I guess that is expected with no new information. Hopefully people do not give up until there is justice for Bri!! [/*]

I just put her name in the search in case I got lost somehow. I hope people don't give up also - it's so, so important now that the initial horror of it all is done with, finding her body and having the memorial service, to keep her in memory alive, to not stop feeling the outrage, and to find this animal. Things tend to sometimes fade into the background, with some people seeing it, I think, as "done and over" and I hope that doesn't happen in this case. He needs to be found before there's another victim.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Jon


Thanks, I don't see the location of the break-in marked on this map (the balloon near the house Brianna was abducted from, marks the location of the Nov attack) , but the map does answer my question re: the break-in time: About 5:00 am in the 19th, so 24 hours earlier. [/*]

Isn't the attempted break-in on the map with this note?

"About 2 a.m. Dec. 16, 2007, a 22-year-old UNR student was walking to her apartment in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street when a man grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious. She woke up inside his pickup and was forced to commit a sexual act on him before he drove her home.

At 5 a.m. Jan. 19, 2008, an unknown suspect unsuccessfully attempted to break into the residence of this victim. (Her general address has not been released.)"

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by butterfly28


Isn't the attempted break-in on the map with this note?

"About 2 a.m. Dec. 16, 2007, a 22-year-old UNR student was walking to her apartment in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street when a man grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious. She woke up inside his pickup and was forced to commit a sexual act on him before he drove her home.

At 5 a.m. Jan. 19, 2008, an unknown suspect unsuccessfully attempted to break into the residence of this victim. (Her general address has not been released.)" [/*]

It is - I just saw that - those locations are all so close together. Just a little walk across the cross-road and he was on McKay.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Rosieo


I just put her name in the search in case I got lost somehow. I hope people don't give up also - it's so, so important now that the initial horror of it all is done with, finding her body and having the memorial service, to keep her in memory alive, to not stop feeling the outrage, and to find this animal. Things tend to sometimes fade into the background, with some people seeing it, I think, as "done and over" and I hope that doesn't happen in this case. He needs to be found before there's another victim. [/*]

Absolutely. It is very unnerving to know he is still out there and this is around the time he usually strikes. I tell myself he is laying low with all of the attention given to finding him right now but at some point his urge to hurt someone again will most likely take over.

[Rosieo]

Originally posted by butterfly28


Absolutely. It is very unnerving to know he is still out there and this is around the time he usually strikes. I tell myself he is laying low with all of the attention given to finding him right now but at some point his urge to hurt someone again will most likely take over. [/*]

That's my fear also - I don't think he CAN stop. I don't think the weak little man who has to grab tiny petite women from behind and in their sleep has the power to stop, and I keep having a terrible feeling that he won't let February end without an attack :( He really needs to be caught and shown just how big of a man he *really* is.

[Jon]

Originally posted by butterfly28


Isn't the attempted break-in on the map with this note?

"About 2 a.m. Dec. 16, 2007, a 22-year-old UNR student was walking to her apartment in the 1400 block of North Virginia Street when a man grabbed her from behind and rendered her unconscious. She woke up inside his pickup and was forced to commit a sexual act on him before he drove her home.

At 5 a.m. Jan. 19, 2008, an unknown suspect unsuccessfully attempted to break into the residence of this victim. (Her general address has not been released.)" [/*]

Oh, I missed where it gave the location of her apt. Strange that police would have initially thought there was no connection (if those reports are true) when one of the earlier victims lived so close to the abduction site, the perp knew where the earlier victim lived, and she had her home broken into the previous night.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Jon


Oh, I missed where it gave the location of her apt. Strange that police would have initially thought there was no connection (if those reports are true) when one of the earlier victims lived so close to the abduction site, the perp knew where the earlier victim lived, and she had her home broken into the previous night. [/*]

True. Maybe the police felt they were connected but told the public they were not until they knew for certain that they were. Hard to say but you make a good point.

[Politigal]

does anyone have an email address for tips in this case...?

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Politigal
does anyone have an email address for tips in this case...? [/*]

I am not able to find an email address for tips but I will keep looking at bit more.

Reno Police Department
Detective Division
455 West Second Street
Reno, Nevada 89502
Phone: (775) 334-2115
Fax: (775) 334-2157

[Politigal]

Originally posted by butterfly28


I am not able to find an email address for tips but I will keep looking at bit more.

Reno Police Department
Detective Division
455 West Second Street
Reno, Nevada 89502
Phone: (775) 334-2115
Fax: (775) 334-2157 [/*]

Thx - I found it and started a thread for tips